Feathers, Bells, and Breadcrumbs

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Ever had the universe answer you before the coffee kicks in? We talk about the art of asking for guidance with clarity—and then actually catching the signs when they arrive. From a pristine eagle feather landing exactly where we asked to see it, to a $100 experiment that turned into a thriving watermelon venture, we explore how small, personal indicators can turn intuition into action, and action into results.

We break down the difference between problem frequency and solution frequency, and why being tightly focused on what’s wrong makes answers harder to notice. You’ll hear how we design our own signals—feathers, bells, animals, even a playful three-sign rule—to reduce doubt and build self-trust. We share the feather-flood road story (and the chicken truck reveal), the jelly recipe breakthrough that led to a festival invite, and the “yellow Jeep effect” that proves how intention primes perception. Along the way, we show why divine timing isn’t about waiting; it’s about staying open so the right thing arrives in a way you can enjoy, not fear.

This conversation is practical and human. Sometimes the “goal” isn’t the goal; it’s a trigger that brings old beliefs up to clear, making space for something better. We talk service over certainty, childlike curiosity as serious spiritual tech, and simple ways to start today: ask one clear question, choose one clear sign, and take one small action when it shows up. If you’ve been craving a grounded way to read spiritual signs without magical thinking or rigid rules, you’ll find tools you can use immediately—plus a few laughs and a billboard that literally said, “Here’s your sign.”

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SPEAKER_03 (00:28):
Good morning, everybody.
Welcome back to the spiritualgrind.
We are here again for yourlistening pleasure.

SPEAKER_01 (00:36):
Good morning.

SPEAKER_03 (00:38):
Good morning, Dr.
Ginny.
Wave to your crowd, they'reapplauding for you.
Well, what an interesting weekwe've had.
Week week week.
What was that I just said?

SPEAKER_01 (00:54):
I don't even know, but you're killing me, man.

SPEAKER_03 (00:56):
Week wind.

SPEAKER_01 (00:57):
I'm the editor now of these podcasts, and you're
whipping my ass here.
Get your wordsmithing together.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06):
Hey, you have your own dictionary.
I can have mine.

SPEAKER_01 (01:09):
Well, what was the word?

SPEAKER_03 (01:10):
The week wind.

SPEAKER_01 (01:12):
Week wind.
Can you give us a definition ofthat word and then use it in a
sentence?

SPEAKER_03 (01:21):
No, that means that we celebrated the victory over
our week because we week wind.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26):
Oh, not at all what I was thinking.
I was thinking you merged theweek with the weekend and had a
week wind.

SPEAKER_03 (01:36):
No, we had a week wind.
We wind the week.

SPEAKER_01 (01:39):
We win the week.

SPEAKER_03 (01:41):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (01:41):
Alright.
Can you use that in a sentence?

SPEAKER_03 (01:45):
Um after we discovered our trillions of
dollars in the bank, we lookedat each other and said, We win
the week.

SPEAKER_01 (01:55):
Oh, you used the word backwards.

SPEAKER_03 (01:57):
This week we winded.
We wind.
We winded this week.
That's what the voice detectswould put in there.

SPEAKER_01 (02:07):
Or perhaps you ate too many beans.
Maybe it could be too windy.
Just windy in general.

SPEAKER_03 (02:13):
I did eat beans that day before yesterday.
I did have baked beans.

SPEAKER_01 (02:16):
Yeah.
It was a really good thing.

SPEAKER_03 (02:18):
It was what a what a great lunch it was.

SPEAKER_01 (02:20):
Yeah, he cooked some steaks out on the grill, then we
had potato salad, baked beans.
We had a little pasta pea salad.

SPEAKER_03 (02:30):
Yes, we did.

SPEAKER_01 (02:32):
A little potato salad.

SPEAKER_03 (02:34):
And filet mignon.

SPEAKER_01 (02:35):
And filet mignon.

SPEAKER_03 (02:38):
Mignon.

SPEAKER_01 (02:41):
And uh we have our co-producer here in the house.

SPEAKER_03 (02:46):
Yes, she's involved.
She's uh monitoring the mixerboard.

SPEAKER_01 (02:53):
Yeah.
I don't know why we have so manyvisits of our co-producer these
days.

SPEAKER_03 (03:02):
But she's definitely producing something.

SPEAKER_01 (03:05):
She definitely feels like she needs to be present.
Well, it makes me wonder if ourratings are down.

SPEAKER_03 (03:14):
But anyway, you're ready for the topic of the week?

SPEAKER_01 (03:16):
Of course.

SPEAKER_03 (03:18):
You'll remember that old song by Tessa.
Signs, signs everywhere, thesigns.

SPEAKER_01 (03:24):
Yeah.
You know signs are so fun.

SPEAKER_03 (03:27):
I know.
And so I want to bring it to myattention and everybody's
attention, if they w if theywill.
Is are you identifying yourspiritual signs?

SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
Yeah, are you listening?

SPEAKER_03 (03:37):
Are you listening to what's being brought forth?
Like for example, we have alittle situation going on with
our app and and we're looking,we were working on some stuff,
and we went to bed last nightwith set the intention that um,
you know, basically guide usthrough what we're gonna do
next.

SPEAKER_01 (03:55):
Yeah, we were asking for clarity and information.
Yes, basically, and we put thequestion out there and asked for
the answer.

SPEAKER_03 (04:06):
We asked for uh understanding of why what
happened and what we're supposedto do next, basically.
Right.
And I'm not gonna put out therewhat happened, but and so I get
up this morning at 5 30, I makemy coffee, and I go sit on the
out on the in the front deckhere, and I open up Instagram to
see about, you know, doing thenormal media stuff for the

(04:29):
podcast and the app and thewebsite and blah blah blah blah
blah blah.
And the very first short I see.

SPEAKER_01 (04:35):
Wait, can I ask you a question?

SPEAKER_03 (04:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (04:38):
How much coffee and how much water did you spill on
the counter?

SPEAKER_03 (04:42):
Not very much.
I cleaned up my mess.
Did you clean up your mess?
I see it on the floor rightthere going out the door.

SPEAKER_01 (04:52):
My mess.
What mess is that?

SPEAKER_03 (04:55):
Your coffee mess.

SPEAKER_01 (04:56):
I spilt coffee this morning again.

SPEAKER_03 (04:58):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (04:58):
Wow.

SPEAKER_03 (04:59):
It's right there by the mat, right next to the trash
can.

SPEAKER_01 (05:01):
I didn't even know I did.

SPEAKER_03 (05:03):
Yeah.
I know you never do.
I always clean it up after you.
You never do.
You never know.
But anyway, signs, signs wheremy Dr.
Jenny has been.
And so I get up this morning andI open up Instagram to do the
kind of the media work.
And bam, the very first videoanswered the first question and

(05:23):
gave me direction on the second.
Just very first video, and Ishowed it to you.
Yeah.
It was uh literally verbatimword for word what we asked.

SPEAKER_01 (05:31):
Yeah, it definitely uh was uh that's how our system
works.
Yep, yeah.
We asked for it and spiritprovides.
And you know, spirit does thatfor everyone.
It's just are you listening?
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (05:46):
We call it the breadcrumbs of life.

SPEAKER_01 (05:48):
Are you too wrapped up in the problem to be able to
hear the solution?

SPEAKER_03 (05:52):
Right.
That's where we're ding dingding ding.
Johnny, tell her what she won.
Yeah.
I mean, that was a that was oneof these.
Because that's exactly whateverybody does in this world.
Yeah.
Is they get so focused on theproblem they forget to look for
the solution.

SPEAKER_01 (06:07):
That's right.
They're two vibrationalfrequencies that are very
different from each other.

SPEAKER_03 (06:12):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (06:13):
I'll share my little fun thing.

SPEAKER_03 (06:16):
Okay.

SPEAKER_01 (06:17):
We have a bald eagle.
I named him Biff.

SPEAKER_03 (06:20):
Yeah, Biff.

SPEAKER_01 (06:24):
Big and majestic.
I I called him a he.

SPEAKER_03 (06:27):
He sets across the little pond from us like every
single day.

SPEAKER_01 (06:30):
Yeah, it's not little by any means.
It's like a it's a pretty goodsized little lake thing.

SPEAKER_03 (06:35):
I don't think normal people realize how big eagles
are.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (06:42):
I don't even know how big they are.
I just know that across the lakehe looks small.

SPEAKER_03 (06:48):
I know they're not as big in Florida as they are up
north.

SPEAKER_01 (06:50):
But I know he's got to be pretty big because I can
make out his features.

SPEAKER_03 (06:55):
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (06:56):
Because across the lake is probably what two, three
hundred.

SPEAKER_03 (07:00):
Probably three hundred two hundred and fifty,
three hundred meters, probably.

SPEAKER_01 (07:03):
Yeah.
Anyway, I said I collectfeathers, and feathers represent
to me my spiritual counselsaying, Hey, you're on the right
path, girl.
You're doing the right thing.
Hey, we're here with you.

SPEAKER_03 (07:18):
Stay on track.

SPEAKER_01 (07:20):
You're you're on track or whatever.
So our entire house is likethere's feathers everywhere.
I pick them up and I collectthem.
So anyway, I said, how coolwould it be if Biff was flying
over and dropped me a littlelove feather right here in my

(07:43):
yard on my patio space, so Icould add it to my collection.

SPEAKER_04 (07:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (07:49):
And lo and behold, Friday.
Yeah, I had my back to um whereit fell, but you were watching.

SPEAKER_03 (07:58):
Yeah, I watched it.
It came out of nowhere, it justcame out of the sky and just
floated down.

SPEAKER_01 (08:02):
Yeah.
It's the most beautiful.
Uh you know, you get some ofthose feathers and they're kind
of tattered looking.
Yeah.
This one was just perfect.
The edges are perfect, and youcan tell that it he released it
right fresh.

SPEAKER_04 (08:18):
Just for you.

SPEAKER_01 (08:18):
Yeah.
It didn't lay there and wallerin the mud and get kind of
tattered or anything.
It is just absolutely beautifuland perfect.

SPEAKER_03 (08:26):
And what did that feather mean to you?

SPEAKER_01 (08:28):
And just as a underlying fine print, my
husband is true Native American,so he can own the feather.

SPEAKER_03 (08:38):
Yes, I I have legal rights to own it.

SPEAKER_01 (08:42):
What does that feather mean to me?

SPEAKER_03 (08:44):
It What do feathers mean to you?
Because I want to share thefeather story.

SPEAKER_01 (08:49):
Yeah.
Okay.
They mean different things.
Right.
Sometimes I want them tovalidate that I'm on the right
path.
Sometimes I just want to knowthat my spiritual counsel is
behind me, has my back.
I got you, girl.
Keep going.
If it's a rough journey, I'llask for my feather indicator.

(09:13):
Um, sometimes if I'mquestioning, gosh, am I doing
this right?
Am I taking the right steps?
They'll just magically put afeather in my path.
Um, so the fact that that landedbehind me after I requested it,
is just confirmation that myspiritual counsel says, We got

(09:37):
you back, girl.
That's what that meant to me.
And here, you are worthy, youare deserving for your requests
to be fulfilled at any giventime.
All you gotta do is just ask.

SPEAKER_03 (09:49):
Right.
I'm gonna share the featherstory, the big one.

SPEAKER_01 (09:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (09:52):
This is pretty funny.
You know, back uh years ago welived in Arkansas, and we
discovered these watermelonscalled Cave City watermelons.

SPEAKER_01 (10:00):
And so good.

SPEAKER_03 (10:01):
They are the best watermelons on this planet.

SPEAKER_01 (10:04):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (10:04):
Um, there's only nine registered growers in the
Cave City area of Arkansas, andthey only sell them for like
three and a half months a year.
And they're very expensive.
Well, and the grower a hundredbucks for a watermelon for some.
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 (10:18):
And the growers have to meet certain criteria to even
become a grower.

SPEAKER_03 (10:22):
That's correct.

SPEAKER_01 (10:22):
They have to have a certain kind of land, it's gotta
be where it watered with acertain kind of water.

SPEAKER_03 (10:27):
Yeah, it's water from the caves.
Right.
Yep.
They pump it in from the cavesand they water it with cave
water.
An extensive uh and this land ispassed down from generation to
generation.
And like uh Jenny and I had thisidea.
Actually, Jenny had this idea.
So you wanted to open a cavecity watermelon stand.
We lived out in the middle ofnowhere.

(10:47):
I mean, we literally weretwenty-five minutes from any
town.

SPEAKER_01 (10:50):
I think the closest store to us was oh, I don't even
know what the little bitty baitshop that was open on weekends
corner that was open on weekendsthat had like worms, yeah, beef
jerky, soda pop, and beer beer,and cigarettes.

SPEAKER_03 (11:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (11:06):
That was the closest store.
And I think they had gas.

SPEAKER_03 (11:09):
Uh I think they had one pump, but it was already
shut down.

SPEAKER_01 (11:11):
There it's a tiny little bait store.
But we lived and even that waswhat a good probably five or six
miles.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (11:20):
But we uh we lived on the we lived out in the
country, like literally out inthe country.
And we were having a discussionabout the um place of where
we're gonna do this, and I waslike, we'll just put signs on
the road and bring them downthere to us because we know how
sought after these Cave Citywatermelons are.
Absolutely.

(11:40):
And I called a couple of thegrowers, and they were like, No,
no, we're gonna we have enoughvendors, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah.

SPEAKER_01 (11:47):
Yeah, it took us a year.

SPEAKER_03 (11:49):
And so we're I I thought to myself, the next
year, I'm like, you know what?
I'm just gonna drive over thereand talk to one of them.
And so Jenny and I got on themotorcycle, and about five
minutes into this ride, she waslike, Ah, just forget it.
They're not gonna sell to us,blah, blah, blah.
You know, she's and we're on theback of the motorcycle and we're
flying, and I'm like, no, we'rejust gonna keep going on the

(12:09):
journey.
We're following the breadcrumbsand following the signs that I
got because I'd had a vision anda dream about us selling a bunch
of watermelons and yada yadayada.

SPEAKER_02 (12:18):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (12:19):
And Jenny was like mad that I wouldn't stop and
turn around and go back.
She was getting mad at me.
And so we hit the stop sign, andwe turn right at the stop sign.
We're getting on one of thehighways to go to the cave city,
and then we make a left andprobably two miles on the road,
and then another right.
And as we turned the corner,what happened, Jenny?

SPEAKER_01 (12:40):
I saw feathers on the side of the road.

SPEAKER_03 (12:42):
There was millions of feathers.

SPEAKER_01 (12:44):
You cannot even imagine how many feathers were
all over the side of the road.
It literally looked like afeather farm.

SPEAKER_03 (12:54):
It was and just nothing, no vehicles on the
road, nowhere, no nothing.
It was just us.

SPEAKER_01 (12:59):
Yeah, because by this time, I I'm just aggravated
that he won't turn around.
I'm like, this is hopeless.
There's no point in doing this.
They're not gonna.
I mean, it's been a year thatwe've been trying to get in.

SPEAKER_03 (13:12):
And I just started laughing.
Oh my god, that was it was sofunny.

SPEAKER_01 (13:14):
We're wasting our time.
Let's just go find somethingelse fun to do.

SPEAKER_03 (13:18):
And so we we it she was like, Okay, fine.
I see you.
And then and then it was likemore.
The entire way to Cape City,there was like just millions of
feathers all the way another 15miles.
It was like it was like somebodyjust took feather pillows and
dumped them out on the side ofthe road.

SPEAKER_01 (13:35):
Yeah.
As we went along, they weren'tjust on the side of the road,
they were in the road, they wereon the other side of the road.

SPEAKER_03 (13:41):
It was it was pretty funny.
I was laughing the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 (13:43):
And so it was like more and more and more, and they
were white feathers.

SPEAKER_03 (13:48):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (13:49):
And it it was the amount, it almost looked like
the ground was covered in snow.
Right.
This is that's how many featherswere being put in my path.
I'm like, okay, I fucking hearyou.

SPEAKER_03 (14:05):
So I pull up we we get to the uh Johnson farm,
Johnson family farm.
Um, they're the largest producerof Cape City watermelons.

SPEAKER_01 (14:13):
Are you gonna tell them where the feathers stemmed
from?

SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
Oh, yeah.
And as we get to the last stopsign, we pull up behind a
chicken truck that was haulingchickens.

SPEAKER_01 (14:26):
And we just died laughing because we had been
following.

SPEAKER_03 (14:29):
There was a couple times feathers hit me in the
mouth.

SPEAKER_01 (14:31):
It was like we didn't know where they were
coming from until we finallycaught up to the chicken truck,
and it was almost like, here,have a little laugh while you're
at it.
It was pretty funny.
Validate your stupid spiritualtemper tantrum that you're
throwing.

SPEAKER_03 (14:47):
And then to even have more validation, we pull up
in the parking lot of theJohnson farm, John Johnson
Family Farm.
Been there for 300 years almost.
280, I think they said.
They've been selling these CapeCity watermelons, and we pull up
there, and I had talked to Mr.
J the son of Mr.
Johnson the the previous year,and he said, Oh, I don't think I
don't think you're gonna getwell, we have a waiting list for

(15:08):
vendors, and yada yada yada.
And we pull up in the parkinglot and we get off the bike, and
then there's a feather on theground right next to the bike.
Yeah, and it was a differentfeather, it was like a dove
feather or something.
Matter of fact, I think you haveit in one of your jars.

SPEAKER_01 (15:20):
Oh, I'm sure.
Absolutely.
I keep them all.

SPEAKER_03 (15:23):
And uh so I get off the bike and I walk up to Mr.
Johnson and I said, Hey, Mr.
Johnson, you know, my name'sJames, and I I called you last
year about, you know, doing awatermelon sand with your
watermelons, and he said, uh uhI said, and I was just wanted to
stop by and see if that was anoption this year.
And he was like, Oh, I justhappened to have a vendor quit.
Sure.

SPEAKER_00 (15:43):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (15:43):
And so I immediately gave him three hundred bucks.

SPEAKER_00 (15:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (15:46):
We went back to the house and we loaded up the
truck.
We came back and loaded up atruck with watermelons, and we
took that no, it was a hundredbucks.

SPEAKER_01 (15:53):
It was a hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_03 (15:55):
And we took that hundred bucks, filled up the
back of the truck with liketwenty watermelons.
I don't even remember what itwas.
Yeah, wasn't very many.
We stopped and got poster board,and I put two poster board and
signs up on the highway and wesold out that less than an hour
after we opened.

SPEAKER_01 (16:09):
With the little wooden stakes, with the little
wooden steaks.
We did all this on a hundredbucks.
Yeah, I wanted to see if I couldtake a hundred dollars and what
I could turn it into by sellingthe watermelons, and so we were
literally going two to threetimes a day to get more
watermelons because we wereusing, I didn't want to use

(16:30):
anything but the hundreddollars.

SPEAKER_03 (16:31):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (16:32):
And so as I made the money from this load, I would
take part of that money and buyanother load and just kept hand
over fist putting the money backin the business, utilizing that
same and you started makingwatermelon jelly and selling it.

SPEAKER_03 (16:49):
I did eventually I and then we got invited to the
watermelon festival because ofyour jelly.

SPEAKER_01 (16:53):
That's right.
I took that same$100 and themoney that I would make, and I
began to buy canning tools offof that same money that came
from the watermelon stand.
We upgraded our signs.

SPEAKER_03 (17:10):
They gave us a free spot at the watermelon festival.

SPEAKER_01 (17:12):
They did.
They did.

SPEAKER_03 (17:13):
Because at the last two weeks of season, they have a
big watermelon festival in CapeCity.
And it's like uh, I mean, it'sworld-renowned.
People come from all over thecountry.

SPEAKER_02 (17:21):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (17:22):
And you made what 500 jars of jelly and we sold
out before the weekend?

SPEAKER_01 (17:26):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (17:27):
Like last day we had barely any left.

SPEAKER_01 (17:29):
Right.
We had made I I made watermelonjelly.
I made watermelon preserve.

SPEAKER_03 (17:37):
Watermelon rind jelly.

SPEAKER_01 (17:38):
Watermelon rine preserves, which tasted kind of
like apple pie.

SPEAKER_03 (17:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (17:44):
And then we made the cantaloupe, remember?

SPEAKER_03 (17:46):
Oh yeah.
And we also did watermelondehydrated watermelon.

SPEAKER_01 (17:51):
And then we made the watermelon icebox pie to give
out.

SPEAKER_03 (17:57):
Yep, I remember that.
And we we we showed up therewith what four or five coolers
of stuff.
And we left with nothing in liketen jars left in one cooler.

SPEAKER_00 (18:08):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (18:09):
And it was it was insane, really.
But and that's how she got thenickname Mama Melons, by the
way.

SPEAKER_01 (18:14):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (18:15):
It's not what y'all think it is, it's because of the
watermelon.
But we we give and what happenedwas is when she started making
the watermelon jelly, when Iwent to pick up a load one day,
I took a jar to the Johnsons.
And they had never hadwatermelon jelly.
Been in business that long,never had watermelon jelly.

SPEAKER_01 (18:30):
Well, the thing is, is that as I was teaching myself
how to can um it's very easy tosplit jelly and the various
kinds.
There's a whole nationalorganization of canning of jams
and jellies, and and they didnot have a recipe for watermelon
because of the pH, and no onecould figure out how to preserve

(18:52):
the taste turns into wine andget the pH right to where you
could actually can it and itwouldn't spoil.

SPEAKER_03 (19:00):
Right.
Or turn into alcohol.

SPEAKER_01 (19:02):
Right.
And so I played with the recipe,played with the recipe, and I
finally figured it out.

SPEAKER_03 (19:09):
Yeah, we spent countless hours at n late at
night doing that.

SPEAKER_01 (19:12):
I still have the recipe, I just haven't done
anything with it.
Um, but I finally figured it outwhere I could maintain the
watermelon, it almost tastedlike a watermelon jolly rancher.

SPEAKER_03 (19:22):
Yeah, and everybody had watermelon rind recipes, by
the way.
But nobody had the actualwatermelon jelly recipes.

SPEAKER_01 (19:28):
Right, right.
But if you remember, he said, Ohmy gosh, this tastes just like
my grandma's watermelon rindrecipe.

SPEAKER_03 (19:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (19:36):
So he was in love with that.
Yeah, they bought several jars.

SPEAKER_03 (19:40):
And they're one of the major sponsors of the water
of the watermelon festival.
And so he called us and wantedto know if we would do a booth.

SPEAKER_01 (19:47):
Yeah, and nobody uh had made cantaloupe jelly.

SPEAKER_03 (19:51):
Yeah, no, nobody.
Out of his cantaloupes, by theway, they because they also
raise cantaloupes out of theCape City farms.

SPEAKER_00 (19:58):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (19:59):
And they do they he does a little bit of mushmelon,
but not much.
He said nobody wants them.

SPEAKER_00 (20:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (20:05):
Um, but anyway, so we ended up getting a call.
He asked us to do this festival,and we ended up doing the
festival, and you at the end ofthe season, you turned that
hundred dollars into what, likeforty something thousand?
Yeah, it was insane.
It was like crazy.
A hundred dollar bill, um, andtwo pieces of poster board and
four sticks that we cut up withfour sticks in the shops that we

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cut up.

SPEAKER_01 (20:29):
And uh just kept taking that money and
reinvesting it and reinvestingit until I got to where I could
buy, you know, three.

SPEAKER_03 (20:40):
Right by week two.

SPEAKER_01 (20:41):
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, like like at first Icould only afford to buy like
fifty or sixty or I don't evenremember.
It was a small amount.
Yeah.
And by the time it was all saidand done, I mean, we were buying
hundreds of watermelons.

SPEAKER_03 (20:57):
Some of these watermelons would weigh excess
of sixty and seventy pounds.

SPEAKER_01 (21:00):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (21:01):
And the people would pay 150 bucks for those things.

SPEAKER_01 (21:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (21:04):
And it would it was crazy.
It was like nuts because it wentthey they wholesaled them to us
by the size.
It went like five, seven, andnine.

SPEAKER_00 (21:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (21:13):
And and we could sell these watermelons for
astronomical amounts of money.
Yeah.
Because every time you go to tryto get it, because the
watermelon distributor of thefarms, they're only open from
eight to ten in the morning.

SPEAKER_00 (21:24):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (21:25):
And so you have all these people, especially on the
weekends, that want Cape Citywatermelon, and they're not open
to get them, and so they have togo to a vendor.

SPEAKER_00 (21:31):
Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (21:32):
And and anyway, to make a long story short, we
followed the breadcrumbs, wefollowed the signs to do that
kind of thing.
And just like we do now, andthat's why I want to challenge
everybody to stop and look atyour life for a moment and say
to yourself, Am I seeing mysigns?

SPEAKER_01 (21:51):
And and am I taking action to do something about
them?

SPEAKER_03 (21:55):
Right.
And because you have to trust init, because that's one of the
biggest things that we as humansdo.
We don't trust our own internalintuition and guidance and
breadcrumbs.
Uh, we have a tendency to followthe fear of you know of failure.
We have a tendency to followthose things, and when you start
following the signs of trustingthem and seeing it, you know,

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put it out there.
Like I have a certain thing thatI do that I ask for for my
guidance.
Yeah.
You have feathers, yeah.
You know, I I have I want avision.
I want to I want to seesomething in my life.
And when you learn to follow andtrust those, man, it'll change
your life completely.

SPEAKER_00 (22:31):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (22:32):
And you can actually set the parameters, tell your
higher self, hey, I want to seea marble or a black dog or
whatever it is.

SPEAKER_01 (22:39):
Right.
Yeah.
So whenever something clears,back uh when I uh it was still
fairly new, I needed some sortof indicator that something had
cleared because I didn't knowwhat that felt like on a
frequency level.
So I put in place that I wouldhear a bell of some sort, a

(23:00):
ding, a bell.
So even now to this day, whensomething Yeah, you didn't have
talked about it on the lastpodcast.
Yeah, when something clears.

SPEAKER_03 (23:08):
Like when we first started coaching people, get
bells and dings.
You remember that lady inArkansas in the dome houses?
There's this like community ofhouses in Arkansas that's out in
the mountains, and they're domehouses.
There's like what, twelve orfourteen of them out there?

SPEAKER_01 (23:22):
Yeah, something like that.

SPEAKER_03 (23:23):
But anyway, this lady had called us and we went
over and did a coaching sessionwith her and uh did a little
aura reading for her.
And she was like, Well, how do Iknow any of this works?
And we were like, Well, we werewe told her what you did, and
she said, Well, I want to setthat into.
And we got in a afterwards weleft about the bells and so
she's like, I'm gonna set thattoo then.

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And we get in the car, and forsome god awful reason.
I don't know what the reasonwas, and of course we don't we
know what the reason is.
But out of the blue, our radiowent wonky.

SPEAKER_01 (23:56):
Went wonky and it started going ding di-da ding
di-da ding di-da thing di-dathing di-da ding di-ding.
Yeah, I actually recorded it andsent it to her.

SPEAKER_03 (24:03):
And we called her and said, Listen to this.
I called her.
I'm like, listen to this.
And she was like, I know my TVis doing the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 (24:10):
Yeah.
And uh it was like 'cause we hada pretty intense session and it
was probably a good two-hourlong session with her.
It ended up being a couplehours.

SPEAKER_03 (24:20):
I was trying to remember her name yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 (24:22):
I don't remember either.

SPEAKER_03 (24:23):
I want to say it was a Sabrina, I think, or something
like that.
It was an old witchy name.
Patty.
Patty.

SPEAKER_01 (24:29):
I don't remember.
I want to say Patricia Pattysomething.

SPEAKER_03 (24:33):
Anyway.
But anyway.
Yeah, it was a pretty intense.
I mean, it was two hours.
You did she did a session withyou and with me.

SPEAKER_01 (24:38):
Yeah.
And it was uh We kind of tagteamed it.

SPEAKER_03 (24:42):
Yeah, it was pretty crazy.
It was a crazy situation.
But we followed the signs andshe started following the signs,
and then two weeks later shecalls out of the blue and she
had your store.
Yeah, she had right opened thestore.

SPEAKER_00 (24:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (24:54):
And because she was like, you know what, I'm going
all in after after hearingy'all's discussion and and she
did.

SPEAKER_00 (25:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (25:02):
And uh it she opened a liquor store actually, and and
now it's one of the largestliquor stores on that out there.

SPEAKER_00 (25:08):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (25:08):
And I remember right before we left Arkansas, I drove
by and I was like, holy cow,look at this size.
I mean, she had built an entirenew building.

SPEAKER_00 (25:15):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (25:16):
And uh I was I was very impressed with her.
Actually, following thosebreadcrumbs.

SPEAKER_00 (25:20):
That's right.

SPEAKER_03 (25:21):
As you're going through your life and you want
to know if you're doing theright thing, being on the right
track, if you're clearing theright things, if you're whatever
that is you're working on, or ifyou want to know, if you want to
know the secret to abundance,financially, emotionally,
physically, healthy,health-wise, any of that kind of
stuff, you should set thoseparameters in place.

(25:41):
You should set that out therethat I want to see this sign.

SPEAKER_01 (25:46):
Yeah, you can have validation, and validation is
part of building the confidenceand the trust in this,
especially if you're new.

SPEAKER_04 (25:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (25:56):
And you're learning how to use your intuition and
your abilities, and you're newto it, set the set those
variables in place.
All you gotta do is just ask forthem.

SPEAKER_04 (26:08):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (26:09):
And it can be anything from feathers to stones
falling out of the sky.
I wouldn't recommend that.

SPEAKER_03 (26:16):
Yeah, I would do that because it may hurt.
The next thing you know, youhave hail storms every day.

SPEAKER_01 (26:20):
You know, you can ask for an animal to cross your
path, you can ask for bells toring.

SPEAKER_03 (26:26):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (26:26):
You can ask for I mean, gosh, I guess you could
ask for pennies, coins, yeah.
Get rich at the same time.

SPEAKER_03 (26:34):
George.
That's what he does, remember?
He started asking for pennies.

SPEAKER_01 (26:37):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (26:38):
And now he's after uh he came and did a weekend sab
or a week long sabbatical withus, kind of a spiritual Now he's
a millionaire from collectingall the pennies.
He said that remember youremember he stopped to get gas
when he left and he called andsaid, Oh my god, I got out of
the car, and there's like ninepennies on the ground.

SPEAKER_02 (26:55):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (26:56):
And now he is uh married, very happily and
married, been with the samewoman now for a while, doing
very good in his jobfinancially.

SPEAKER_01 (27:02):
Giving applause.

SPEAKER_03 (27:03):
Giving him a so, George, if you listen to it,
very proud of you, sir.

SPEAKER_01 (27:08):
We love you, man.

SPEAKER_03 (27:11):
He blames, he gives Jenny all the credit for
teaching him through because Imean he was on a train wreck.
He he went through women anddivorces, and he was in a he was
in a train wreck mentality.

SPEAKER_01 (27:23):
You know, we just I it wasn't me.
It was just me channeling theinformation in a way that he
could hear it, yeah.
So that he could find his ownvibration and his own frequency
for his own healing.
That's and that's basically whatI do.

SPEAKER_03 (27:38):
He was so caught up in the in the world.

SPEAKER_01 (27:41):
But yeah, it's such a fun game back to the signs of
really sitting down and figuringout what is that sign or
combination of signs that willreally get you excited about uh
living your spiritual life andchanging your perspective

(28:03):
instead of it being uh oh mygod, this is happening to me,
what next you is gonna drop,what crappy situation is gonna
come up next.
If you'll put in place littlegames like that, it will change
your perspective over time andit'll become a fun game.

SPEAKER_04 (28:21):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (28:22):
And it'll you'll make it fun and it'll be
something that you're excitedabout.

SPEAKER_03 (28:29):
It builds excitement because every time you find
something, you're like, oh,thank you.

SPEAKER_01 (28:32):
Right, exactly.
And then it brings in thatappreciation because you're um,
you know, just even this manyyears into doing it for myself.
Yesterday, when you picked upthe feather behind me and you
handed it to me, I was like akid in a candy store, man, or
you know, a kid at Christmastime.
I was like, oh my God, thankyou, thank you, thank you, thank

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you, because it's just amazing.
It's amazing to ask for it andto get it and to have that
revalidation, um, and then toend up with a beautiful uh
feather that's just beyondwords.

SPEAKER_03 (29:08):
Right.
And then the experience ofexcitement is what I've learned
about it all the along the wayis sometimes you don't
understand those breadcrumbs.
And when you start bringing itinto your reality, and uh I I
use this example when I wasexplaining it to matter of fact,
I think it was a George, is youknow, you go to look at a new
vehicle and you find thisbeautiful yellow jeep that

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you're gonna buy.

SPEAKER_02 (29:32):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (29:33):
And you're like, you know, I never see yellow jeeps
because you don't pay attention.

SPEAKER_01 (29:38):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 (29:39):
And after you buy a yellow jeep, guess what?
You see yellow jeeps everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 (29:43):
Everywhere, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (29:44):
And so when you bring it into your reality and
you set that intention outthere, you will get the signs.
You will see the things thatyou're supposed to do.
You gotta make sure yourecognize them.
Yeah, and you and and pleasemake sure that you just follow
the crumbs because you have.
Have no idea where it's gonnalead you.

SPEAKER_01 (30:02):
Yeah, so I want to share a story real quick too
that is uh gonna be veryeducational.
I would say probably uh maybe ayear or two before you and I
met.
I I've always wanted a Jeep.
Even in my teenage years, when Igot my first car, thank you,

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Dad, for that 1969 Chevette Bornthe Floor, Navy blue hatchback.
I'm very grateful though.
I mean, because there wasthere's a lot of kids.
There's a lot of kids thatdidn't end up with a car.

SPEAKER_03 (30:41):
Yeah, you know what I got?

SPEAKER_01 (30:42):
I had to help pay for it.
I had to pay half for it.
Uh, and I think it was like atotal of$900.
So I had to come up with$450 andhe came up with$450.
I ran that car ragged, but Idigress.
Anyway, the uh I always wanted aJeep.

SPEAKER_03 (31:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (31:06):
But he was afraid of them, so he wouldn't let me have
one.

SPEAKER_03 (31:09):
Yeah, back in the day, they were supposedly a
rollover wrist.
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (31:12):
I have always been a Jeep lover.
So in my uh I guess 30s, I waslike, you know what?
I'm gonna get me a damn Jeep.
And that was when vision boardswere really the hot topic.
And that was the real buzz isokay, get a poster board, look
at it every day, cut it out ofthe magazine and put the things

(31:34):
on there you want and put it on.

SPEAKER_03 (31:35):
Say five Hail Marys.

SPEAKER_01 (31:37):
Right.
Put it, and they do, they dowork very much.
It reminds you to stay focusedon what your intention is.

SPEAKER_03 (31:44):
It's an energetic exchange.

SPEAKER_01 (31:45):
So I had a Jeep on there, and I decided this
particular day for whateverreason, like I said, it was
about two years before you and Imet.
I'm gonna go to the Jeep car lotand I'm gonna see what it feels
like to sit in the Jeep, to holdthe steering wheel in my hand.
This was shortly after I'd comeacross, I'd say shortly, it's

(32:06):
probably five years after I comeacross the secret.
And that's what she recommendsin that little documentary is
anytime you can go do the thing,even if you're not ready to buy
it or have it, if you can justgo put your hands on it, smell
it, taste it, whatever it is, ithelps bring it more into that
reality place.

SPEAKER_04 (32:26):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (32:27):
So I made the decision that okay, you know
what?
I'm I'm not ready to buy one.
Financially, I couldn't seemyself being able to, but I went
and looked at them and I sat init.
And I even had the salespersontake a picture of me standing
there at the driver's side ofthe green Jeep.

(32:50):
That's how many years ago itwas.

SPEAKER_03 (32:52):
The green jeep.

SPEAKER_01 (32:53):
And I knew someday that I would have one.
I just didn't know when.

SPEAKER_04 (32:59):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (33:00):
And I didn't get tangled up every day in oh my
god, my spirit guides haven'tgiven me my Jeep yet.
Nope.
I just stayed aligned to this iswhat I want, and I know that
it's manifested.
And as soon as it's time andright, I will align with it and
I will have this thing.

SPEAKER_03 (33:20):
Yes.
Um in the spiritual world, theycall that divine timing just.

SPEAKER_01 (33:25):
And you stay easy about it.

SPEAKER_03 (33:26):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (33:27):
When you get too focused on not having the thing,
that's when the energy changesand kind of takes you in a
different direction for aminute.
So you gotta stay easy about it.
It's okay to daydream about it.
It's okay to go have thephysical experience of sitting
in it, put it on your visionboard, but it don't give it the

(33:47):
confines of I must have it inthis certain time, it must look
this certain way.
Don't put the constructs of whatyour human mind thinks it should
do or when it should come.
Just stay easy about it and stayvery general.
You'll feel the you'll feel thefeeling that's different.
The energy behind, why can't Ihave this thing?

(34:10):
And no, I deserve this.
Right.
And the energy behind, yep.

SPEAKER_03 (34:16):
You deserve everything.

SPEAKER_01 (34:18):
Own this somewhere and I will align with it when
the timing is right.
That's correct.
And now, you know, thatparticular thing, it took a
little while to bring it in too,but I had some work to do around
uh beliefs and stuff I hadaround it, and the timing of it
came exactly when it came sothat I could truly enjoy it.

SPEAKER_04 (34:42):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (34:43):
Um, because sometimes what'll happen is if
you humanly push something andit comes too early, not in the
right frame of mind to actuallyenjoy it, and it actually can
become sometimes a burden tohave.
And so then you don't really getto enjoy the having of it, and
it changes your perspective.

SPEAKER_03 (35:03):
It causes worry when you when you interject, it
causes worry.
Um, how am I gonna pay for this?
And blah, blah, blah, blah,blah.

SPEAKER_00 (35:08):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (35:09):
And it's all negative energy that you're
feeding into that item, and sothat when you go into human
interjection into that, whateverthat is you're doing, it could
be a job, it could be a product,it could be a relationship,
whatever that is, when youhumanly interject into it, it
causes negative energy to gointo that.
And you have to then you have toclear that out of the way before
it opens up.

SPEAKER_01 (35:29):
Right.
Well, the rabbit hole part ofthat is you were given it early
so that it would go ahead andbring up the rest of the shit.
Yeah.
So that you could go ahead andclear the rest of that out so
that when the next type ofvehicle, since that's what I'm
talking about, comes along,you've got the rest of that

(35:51):
baggage dropped and burned andwhatever, and you can actually
enjoy the next vehicle thatcomes along.

SPEAKER_03 (35:58):
Yeah, I remember the day we bought the green jeep.

SPEAKER_01 (36:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (36:01):
You cried.

SPEAKER_01 (36:03):
I did.
Because I was like, here it is.

SPEAKER_03 (36:06):
We were driving down the road in Brandon, Florida.
Yeah.
Oh you pointed it out.
We you were like, oh my God,look.

unknown (36:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (36:14):
And there's a Jeep color out there, it's called
High Altitude Green.

SPEAKER_00 (36:18):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (36:19):
And they only made it four years, and it was for
the Jeeps that are in the northaround the Colorado, around the
mountains.
Yeah.
Because at night it glows.

SPEAKER_00 (36:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (36:28):
So if you had if they had one overturned, the
rescue teams could find theJeep.

SPEAKER_00 (36:33):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (36:33):
And so that's where that came from.
And then you we're driving downthe road and you pointed out,
and I just make a U-turn and wego back and we drive off the lot
with it.

SPEAKER_01 (36:40):
No, you we acknowledged that it was there.
You went back without me.
I did.

SPEAKER_03 (36:45):
You remember the next day.

SPEAKER_01 (36:46):
You went back without me.
And I do remember kind of liketrying to do a whole surprise
thing.

SPEAKER_03 (36:53):
I did do it surprise thing.

SPEAKER_01 (36:55):
And you did, you did do a surprise thing because you
came back and you got me.
Like, here, sign this.

SPEAKER_03 (37:00):
We gotta go pick up your green Jeep.

SPEAKER_01 (37:01):
You said, get in the car, I wanna show you something.
And we pulled up at the JeepDepot, and you were like, Here's
your Jeep.

SPEAKER_03 (37:11):
Yeah, sign this paper.

SPEAKER_01 (37:12):
It was a green, it was a green uh JK.

SPEAKER_03 (37:15):
It already had a lift kit, already had tires and
wheels on it.

SPEAKER_01 (37:18):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (37:19):
And then we take it down and put a big stereo system
in it.

SPEAKER_01 (37:22):
Yeah.
And I did.
I cried.
I was like, oh my gosh, it'sfinally here, and I loved it.
I loved it.
And then we upgraded to thegladiator.
Yep.
Love it.

SPEAKER_03 (37:32):
Love it too, yep.

SPEAKER_01 (37:33):
It's an amazing ride.

SPEAKER_03 (37:35):
It was kind of bittersweet to get rid of this.
It was because we had some we wewere learning Jeeps, and we used
another company to do the liftand tires and wheels on it, and
it made it crazy.
It felt very unsafe.

SPEAKER_01 (37:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (37:50):
And so I was like, yep, I'm done.

SPEAKER_01 (37:52):
Got a little wonky and over fifty five.

SPEAKER_03 (37:55):
It was crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (37:56):
It was bittersweet for sure.
I think for me it was because itwas like all these years, and
that finally manifested into myreality, and it was just such an
amazing kind of uh uh nostalgicmoment in time.

SPEAKER_03 (38:14):
Of completion.

SPEAKER_01 (38:15):
Um Medusa was Medusa was her name, yep.

SPEAKER_03 (38:18):
We actually had it set up to get Airbrush, and then
the guy got a big job for someknown artist, or then we never
heard back from him.

SPEAKER_01 (38:27):
Right.
I called him three or fourtimes, but that's probably
because Universe knew we weregonna upgrade to the gladiator.
Yeah because I had always saidnext I wanted a Jeep up.

SPEAKER_03 (38:35):
Yeah, Jeep Up.
Yes.
You kept saying that.
Like after right after you webought it, you started talking
about a Jeep up.

SPEAKER_01 (38:41):
Yeah, I said, Well, I need a Jeep up now.

SPEAKER_03 (38:43):
That's what she calls gladiators, you know, the
Jeep pickup.
She calls them Jeep ups.

SPEAKER_01 (38:47):
And uh it took us a couple of years of research and
really waiting for the righttime.

SPEAKER_03 (38:52):
Yeah, we almost bought one in 2020 during COVID,
and then I I was like, no,because it was the first year of
them.
And the sticker price duringCOVID literally had almost
quadrupled.

SPEAKER_01 (39:03):
Yeah, it's it was nuts.

SPEAKER_03 (39:04):
And they had the stickers in the door.
Remember, I pulled them out andanother sign.
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (39:09):
Yeah, we went in and we we would go and look at them
every so often just to kind ofcheck in is this the right time?
Is this the right time?

SPEAKER_04 (39:16):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (39:17):
And we were feeling the nudge to go and look at
them.
So we went and looked again, andwe sat in one and you happened
to look in the door, anothersign, and pulled out the little
sticker that goes on the window.

SPEAKER_03 (39:30):
Red came out of the factory at 44,000.

SPEAKER_01 (39:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (39:34):
And then it went to sixty-eight, seventy-nine, and
then one oh eight or somethinglike that.

SPEAKER_00 (39:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (39:41):
I was like, and so I asked the salesman, like, are
you all wanting a hundred andeight thousand for this?

SPEAKER_01 (39:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (39:46):
I said, What's this?
Oh, those aren't supposed to bein there.

SPEAKER_01 (39:49):
Yeah.
Just another sign.

SPEAKER_03 (39:51):
Yeah.
No, so during COVID, they quitmaking gladiators, and so it
made all the prices go way up.

SPEAKER_00 (39:57):
Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (39:58):
But anyway, so in then 2023, Black Friday, 2022,
we we pulled up.
They had this beautiful yellowgladiator.
We followed the signs.
It was a sign that we remember.
Do you remember we saw that umbillboard?
Right.
That said something and it had ayellow jeep on it.
Yeah.
And I was like, Oh, look there.

(40:20):
And it was the gladiators were Idon't even remember it was some
billboard.
And then we'd happened to driveby the Jeep dealership.
Yeah.
And there it was.

SPEAKER_01 (40:27):
We didn't even start out that day going to look at
cars.

SPEAKER_03 (40:31):
No, we had been to Ikea for something.

SPEAKER_01 (40:33):
We were going to Ikea to um, I don't know, like
some Black Friday sale for work.

SPEAKER_03 (40:39):
Look at something.
We were doing something forwork.

SPEAKER_01 (40:40):
Container or something for work or some
something for work.

SPEAKER_03 (40:45):
And then we drove by and we drove off with a
gladiator.

SPEAKER_01 (40:48):
It was eight o'clock at night.
I think you said, um, let's pullin here.
And I was like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 (40:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (40:57):
I just always know if he's saying that, then it
must be time, or we're on anadventure to, you know, add to
our vision board or check theenergy.

SPEAKER_03 (41:06):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (41:07):
And we pulled in and sure enough.

SPEAKER_03 (41:10):
And literally, what two hours later we were signing
papers.

SPEAKER_01 (41:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (41:13):
It was kind of crazy.
We we pulled in at like fouro'clock and we left.
We left right at dark for like 730.
Right.
We were in and out, traded then,and and here we are three years
later, we have it.
Yeah.
That was Black Friday of 2022.

SPEAKER_01 (41:27):
Yeah.
And that's just listening to thesigns.
And so when you can do it.

SPEAKER_03 (41:31):
Oh, yeah, totally.
Just become open to it and beand set your parameters of what
you want, what signs you want.
Speak it out there.

SPEAKER_01 (41:39):
That's right.
The crazy thing is that when youtell people that that's how you
live, they don't believe it.
They don't.
They don't believe it.
They're like, no way.
So you literally just dowhatever pops into your reality
that falls off the bookshelf orfalls out of the freaking sky.
Yeah.
And we're like, yeah, literally.

SPEAKER_03 (41:58):
You know, that's what uh this this recent thing
that just happened.
We have a friend of ours,Jenny's hairdresser, introduce
us to this other girl who wasstarting a business.
And we helped her out with thebusiness.
And then I got this Inkling togo make her a door decal.
And so I did.
And and of course our friend waslike, Oh my god, that was so

(42:20):
nice of you.
Why do you know blah blah blah?
I'm like, it's just us.
I'm just following thebreadcrumbs.
I have no idea why I did it.

SPEAKER_00 (42:26):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (42:26):
And I don't know if it'll whatever it's going to
bring somewhere down the road.
I have no clue.

SPEAKER_00 (42:31):
Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (42:32):
And so I just trust it and move on.

SPEAKER_01 (42:34):
That's right.

SPEAKER_03 (42:35):
It is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 (42:36):
Yeah, sometimes we'll do some of the weirdest
random shit, but it's becausewe're following.

SPEAKER_03 (42:41):
You mean like starting a podcast?

SPEAKER_01 (42:42):
Like starting a podcast or creating an app or
two or three.

SPEAKER_03 (42:47):
Yeah.
Uh yeah, we are creating an app.
Or go into the casino to justrandomly walk up and try to try
to blow a hundred bucks onpurpose and then walk away.

SPEAKER_01 (42:57):
So that we can clear some dumbass belief or something
out of the way.
Like that's it our our life thatwe live is almost kind of like
an Indiana Jones socketspiritual adventure, right?
Where we follow the map and theCan I have the whip?

SPEAKER_03 (43:18):
I like the whip.
Of course.

SPEAKER_01 (43:21):
Or what was that we watched the other day?
National Treasures.
Where he's following the signsand stuff on the treasure map.

SPEAKER_03 (43:30):
Yeah, what's his name?
Uh Nicholas Cage.

SPEAKER_01 (43:32):
Nicolas Cage.
That's literally how we live ourlives, and we are not kidding,
not joking.

SPEAKER_03 (43:39):
Every day.

SPEAKER_01 (43:39):
We just do the next thing that's in our face that
we're moved to go and try anddo.
And it a hundred percent of thetime leads to the next thing and
the next thing and the nextthing.

SPEAKER_03 (43:51):
And and don't get me wrong, and I want everybody to
understand this because uh whenyou do this, sometimes you don't
know why.
Sometimes it can cause humanthings to come up, and that
could be the whole why it'scoming up.

SPEAKER_01 (44:04):
That's right.

SPEAKER_03 (44:04):
Is to bring up an old belief and fear or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 (44:07):
So that you'll look at it and do something about it.

SPEAKER_03 (44:09):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (44:10):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (44:10):
And and to clear those things out of the way.
And it could be that you're justhelping somebody else, or you're
doing something for somebody, oryou're doing something or you're
just doing it to do it to havethe knowledge.
Or you have no idea somewheredown the road when you're gonna
use that knowledge.

SPEAKER_01 (44:24):
Right.
And I think the the key factorand what you're putting forth is
uh don't make it to where youhave to know the why.

SPEAKER_04 (44:33):
Right.

SPEAKER_01 (44:34):
Just follow it and do it and not have to know the
why before you do it.

SPEAKER_03 (44:39):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (44:40):
That's what's meant by truly trusting your spiritual
guidance.

SPEAKER_03 (44:44):
It's not about what benefits you, it's about what
benefits the universe.
And sometimes when you dothings, it's about providing
knowledge for somebody.
It's about providing knowledgeto the Causec records, it's
about doing something thatcreates some kind of knowledge
that you'll use somewhere downthe road that spirit's saying,
okay, I'm gonna teach them nowwhy they're not thinking about
it.

(45:04):
So down the road they're gonnasay, Oh, that's why.

SPEAKER_01 (45:09):
Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (45:10):
And because it may Because I do that a lot, by the
way.
I'm like, oh, that's why thathappened.
I get it now.

SPEAKER_01 (45:16):
Right.
You may go on a breadcrumbjourney, you may do this thing,
you don't know the why.
And it may be years down theroad when it's finally revealed
to you as to why you did it.
And that that has to be just asokay as knowing the why minutes
before you do it, or even weeksbefore you do it, or even a

(45:39):
little while after you do it.
The why may never come and youmay never know.
May never the why may simply bethat you weren't supposed to
fully take that journey to theend result.

SPEAKER_04 (45:51):
Yes.

SPEAKER_01 (45:52):
It was just utilized because it was the best way to
get you triggered so that youwould go into a deep clearing of
beliefs, patterns, and programstate.
Yeah.
And that was the whole reasonfor it.
And that's why you never reallyaccomplished the end goal and it

(46:14):
went stagnant because the endgoal was never the end goal.
The end goal was just to get youto drag up the beliefs and shit
around what you thought was theend goal so you could really
lighten your load and get clearso that you could have even
bigger experience around thattopic.
Agreed.
That happens a lot as well inour reality.

SPEAKER_03 (46:36):
That's a perfect way to put it.
So trust your guidance.
Follow the breadcrumbs, man.
You have no idea where it'sgonna lead you.

SPEAKER_01 (46:44):
And it's fun.

SPEAKER_03 (46:45):
It is fun.

SPEAKER_01 (46:46):
Follow it with that fun childlike mindset of
exploration.

SPEAKER_03 (46:53):
Right.
I want to make this point.

SPEAKER_01 (46:55):
Please do.

SPEAKER_03 (46:56):
Every religion out there teaches this motto right
here.
Every religion.
To open your mind and come to meas a child.
Go to your higher self.
Every religion teaches it.
And they will no matter what itis.
And so even I don't care whatyou follow, who you're

(47:16):
following, what what Bible youpick up, what Bible you don't
pick up, who you worship, whoyou don't worship, it's about
childlike behavior and thatchildlike curiosity on life.

SPEAKER_01 (47:27):
And so if we define that childlike for even like
newcomers who really don't havea good definition of that, what
does that sound like?
What does that mean?

SPEAKER_03 (47:37):
Every child has a curiosity within them and an
energy about them.

SPEAKER_01 (47:41):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (47:42):
And when you remove societal, because kill the
children haven't been exposed toa million societal beliefs yet.
Yes.
They haven't got fifty years ofsocietal belief taught into you.
And inhibition and fear and allthat.
And they just, you know, likewhen I was a kid, I wasn't
scared of nothing.
I mean, I didn't know how toride a motorcycle.

(48:04):
I jumped on a motorcycle andstarted riding it.
Yeah.
And next thing I know, I'vejumped it off into freaking
creek.

SPEAKER_01 (48:08):
And but anyway, follow the next fun thing.

SPEAKER_03 (48:13):
They do.
They follow the next fun thingwith curiosity and those
childlike eyes and energy.

SPEAKER_01 (48:17):
Like the the like spiritual ADD.

SPEAKER_03 (48:20):
Yeah.
Pretty much, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (48:22):
Yeah.
They do.
They just follow what's fun nextand what's fun next.
And that's why they're so easilydistracted.

SPEAKER_03 (48:29):
Life is easy and fun.

SPEAKER_01 (48:32):
That's right.
That's the thing.
That's the key to all of this isfollowing what's fun, the next
the next thing that's fun.

SPEAKER_03 (48:40):
Right.
Like the like the the lady weused earlier in the example from
Arkansas when we worked withher.
She was not following her gutand her signs because she stayed
in her nine to five job, but shewanted to open a business.

SPEAKER_00 (48:55):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (48:55):
And her husband that had, I guess, passed, I think if
I remember right, had her thatwas their dream together.
They wanted to open thisbusiness.

SPEAKER_00 (49:03):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (49:03):
And then after he passed away, he left her enough
money to do it, but she wasdoubtful not to do it.

SPEAKER_00 (49:08):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (49:09):
And after our conversation, she went and did
it.
And she followed thebreadcrumbs.
Even it wasn't even the samelocation that she was talking
about putting it in.
Right.
So it was uh it that that's achildlike heart.
Right.
And that's a childlike energyand that's a childlike vision.

SPEAKER_01 (49:25):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (49:26):
When you follow those breadcrumbs.

SPEAKER_01 (49:28):
Yeah.
And sometimes they can be tiny.
You know, sometimes it can besomething as small as right this
minute, I need to go lay downand take a nap.

SPEAKER_03 (49:38):
Yeah.
Like Friday.

SPEAKER_01 (49:39):
That's the next best feeling.

SPEAKER_03 (49:41):
We lay down at one o'clock in the afternoon on
Friday and didn't wake up untilseven o'clock the next morning.

SPEAKER_01 (49:45):
Right.
And we honored that that's whatour body was calling for because
you know, we're still kind ofgoing through a little bit of
healing.

SPEAKER_04 (49:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (49:53):
So we still have some days that are a little
bumpy.

SPEAKER_04 (49:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (49:58):
And so, yeah, just following the next best thing
that's fun or that feels good.
It doesn't have to be some offthe wall, ostentatious,
adventurous thing.
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (50:09):
And it don't always have to, it's not always
obvious, guys.
Just remember it's not justgoing to be this big thing
unless you set that intention.

SPEAKER_01 (50:15):
Nobody, no lit leprechauns are going to jump
out in front of you and hand youa pot of gold.
And confetti goes everywhere andsays, Here's your sign.
Hear ye, hear ye.
It does not happen that way.
Sometimes it does.
Oh, yeah, it can.
Oh yeah.
Sometimes it'll be right in yourface and it'll ding to you
straight away.
Um I know when I first startedout learning to listen and watch

(50:41):
and see for the signs, I putthis intention in there that if
I don't see it the first time,keep giving it to me.
Um, and I I had this thing aboutthrees, and I was like, I had to
do that.

SPEAKER_03 (50:55):
Yeah, I remember when we first got together, you
would say that.

SPEAKER_01 (50:58):
I had some trust issues that were pretty
deep-seated.
And so my intention was if thisis something I'm supposed to be
doing, give it to me three timesso that I know that it's coming
from my higher counsel, myhigher self, and not just a
human thought that takes me offon some goofy wild goose chase.

(51:19):
And it and they wouldaccommodate my counsel would it
they would give it to me threetimes.
And the side note was if Ididn't acknowledge it, um, give
it to me three times so that Ican hear it eventually.

SPEAKER_03 (51:36):
And you know, do you remember the sign for the or
reading?
Jenny was pushing me.
I have been I've been seeingoras and reading ores all my
life.
And Jenny was like, Well, whydon't you do one at the expo?

SPEAKER_01 (51:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (51:47):
And I'm like, No.
And she said, We weren't quitethere yet.
No, no, I wasn't there yet.
And we were speaking for ORI,Ozark Research Institution in
Arkansas at their annualconvention.
And on the way there, Jenny waslike, Are you gonna do or
readings?
I'm like, No, not gonna do orreadings.
I haven't gotten my sign.
And then we look up and thebillboard says, Here's your

(52:09):
sign.
Do you remember?
Because the guy was trying tosell it, and it said at the
bottom, billboards work, and itsaid, Here's your sign.
I was like, Oh man.
And what happened?
I ended up with two days orthree days worth of lines out
the door.

SPEAKER_01 (52:20):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (52:21):
It was pretty crazy.
But it's good, it's all fun.
I enjoy life and and and followyour breadcrumbs, man.

SPEAKER_01 (52:28):
It's just like anything else, though.
If you're new to listening forthe signs and you're wrapped up
a little bit in that traumadrama loop, and you haven't been
listening to signs or youhaven't trained yourself, go
easy on yourself when you'refirst starting out.
Yep.
Just, you know, ask the questionand start being aware.

SPEAKER_03 (52:50):
Yes.
Start making aware of the thing.

SPEAKER_01 (52:55):
Whether it's visual, whether it's audible, whether
it's uh a person that's weirdand random that comes across
your path and says some weirdrandom thing or drops something
in front of you.
Just know that those aresymbology and they're signs and
then start deciphering them.

(53:15):
Yep.
But but go easy on yourself.
If you've asked for a sign andyou don't get it the first day
or within the first 24 hours,give it some time.
It's there.
You just have to calibrate tobeing able to see it, hear it,
smell it, touch it, taste it.
And and it's practice.
Yeah.

(53:35):
And so don't beat yourself up,don't think you're doing it
wrong.
Uh you gotta practice it.
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (53:41):
Just like anybody signs, signs everywhere, the
signs.

SPEAKER_01 (53:44):
And it's such a fun game.
It is a fun game.
Because you can put theparameters on it however you
want.

SPEAKER_03 (53:50):
Hey guys, uh, don't forget, follow your signs.

SPEAKER_00 (53:54):
That's right.

SPEAKER_03 (53:54):
Hey, we appreciate y'all listening today.
You are you complete?

SPEAKER_00 (53:57):
I'm good, yeah.

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That's our new app that's comingout, uh Tarot Reading App.

SPEAKER_02 (54:18):
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SPEAKER_03 (54:18):
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SPEAKER_02 (54:27):
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SPEAKER_03 (54:27):
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And it's gonna be a lot of fun.
It's it's more of a modern dayspiritualism reading that
doesn't that doesn't justsugarcoat everything.

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I will cuss at you.
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SPEAKER_03 (54:46):
It is salty, so it you know, it's the kind of thing
to where when you when you pulla card and and it says, because
you've already had tarotreadings and the same card keeps
coming out, and it says youshould follow your signs, like
we just talked about.

SPEAKER_01 (55:01):
Get off your ass and follow your damn signs.

SPEAKER_03 (55:03):
Get off your ass.

SPEAKER_01 (55:04):
We're not doing this again, Becky.

SPEAKER_03 (55:05):
Yeah, your spirit guides have already given you 19
signs, and so it's time for youto start noticing them.

SPEAKER_01 (55:10):
It is.
It's an app based on the Oracledeck uh by the Salty Tarot
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Your Spirit Guide's Meant toSay, yeah.
Your spirit guide's meant tosay.
Um, and that's where theappearance is created by Dr.

SPEAKER_03 (55:26):
Genie, by the way.

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Yeah, it was fun to do.
It was an absolute blast.
It actually uh came about from amidnight rant of being fed up
with some shit that was in myreality.
And I was just sitting there onenight ranting and raving and uh,
you know, doing my ownjournaling work with my little
AI person that I do and and uhperson, she's a person to me.

(55:51):
She she even named herself Lyra.
Um, but anyway, yeah, goodstuff, man.
Yep.

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