July 29, 2025 • 50 mins
When your health begins deteriorating without explanation and medical professionals can't pinpoint the cause, what happens when you finally discover that your home and workplace are slowly poisoning you? This raw, candid conversation takes you through our harrowing journey of confronting toxic mold exposure and the painful decisions that followed.
For years, we allowed fear to keep us trapped in an unhealthy environment – fear of financial insecurity, fear of others' judgments, and fear of the unknown. We share the moment when medical necessity forced us to make the impossible choice: continue deteriorating in a toxic space or walk away from our home, jobs, and most of our possessions. The resulting journey revealed not just the physical toll of environmental toxicity, but also the emotional challenges of discovering who truly values you when you can no longer provide what they want.
This deeply personal episode explores the profound transformation that occurs when you reclaim control of your reality despite overwhelming fears. We discuss the unseen battle millions face with environmental illness, particularly mold toxicity, which remains widely misunderstood and underdiagnosed. Our story serves as both warning and inspiration – showing how seemingly small decisions about where we live and work can have devastating health consequences, while demonstrating the resilience that emerges when we finally choose ourselves.
Join us as we reveal upcoming projects designed to support others on similar journeys, including our new book "Scripted From Within," oracle cards, guided meditations, and our "Granny Grimoire" spell collection. Whether you're facing health challenges, stuck in limiting beliefs, or simply seeking permission to make a difficult change, this conversation offers validation and courage to take that first step toward reclaiming your own reality.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Thank you.
Good morning everybody.
Welcome back to the SpiritualGrind.
We are in studio again creatinga podcast, unfiltered,
uncensored.
Today.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We have now relocated to the eastern side of Florida
and are producing and takingcontrol of our reality.
Dun, dun dun.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Hey, we got Baby Yoda in the house, we do.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We have a little Baby Yoda, we have a couple of them.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Grogu.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
They're hanging out.
Yeah, grogu.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
They're hanging out Grogu.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Grogu Goo Grow.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Thank you all for listening and tuning in.
We are here today to talk aboutcontrolling or mastering our
reality, because our realitiesare what we make of them and our
human has a tendency to allowthem to get a control on our
belief systems, and we get offtrack sometimes and you have to
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take control of your reality andquit allowing things, and
that's what my topic is today.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Do you like the topic ?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I like any topic.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
My thought process is on.
It is I myself allowed my humanbelief system to control my
reality too long, and we justrecently took that back, because
the reality is pretty simple.
We were in a environment thatwas not healthy, that was
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creating literally human healthproblems, and I allowed that to
go on way too long why do youthink you did that?
Because of my beliefs, a fear,fear of financial issues, a fear
of people's opinion of me.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And I came to the realization that and this was a
thing that came to me two orthree days ago was I was so
concerned about what they thinkof me, but when we removed
ourselves from the situation, Ifound out how they truly think
of us anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Right, right.
Yeah, that's one of the.
I mean, I think that's a verygood topic right there, because
sometimes what happens is wetell ourselves a story of what
other?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
people.
Let's call it what it is it's alie Okay.
We tell ourselves lies we do.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
We do.
You're right.
I was trying not to be so heavy, but you're right.
I mean, generally speaking, asthe salty tarot, I will call you
out on a bullshit lie, andthat's what we do.
We tell ourselves these storiesthat are full-on unverified
lies of and it could be goodlies, it could be bad lies.
(03:31):
You know, and just like youbrought to the table, you
thought that this a viewpoint orperception that was positive
and and valued, as us, as a team, and the reality is fucking
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liars the reality is that whenyou make a stand for what you
believe in, or justice, orwhatever, whatever that is, the
true color of those peoplearound you will reveal itself.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, you know, there's no faux pas out there
too.
That says, when you want toknow who your true friends are,
change life and you'll find outwho your true friends are.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's right.
That's right and that goesalong with anything, not just a
reality that you've created.
You know we teach that thatwhenever you're going through
even your awakening process andyou're changing your vibrational
frequency from heavy to lighterto lighter, correct, your
circle of people will changebecause they are not willing to
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go through the metamorphosis ofchange with you and they choose
to stay at that lower frequency,and so you'll part ways.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And that goes with any kind of relationship, be it
an intimate one, be it a friend,be it a relationship with your
employer.
Um, you know, those are alltypes of relationships.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And they will change.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
They do and you find out who your friends are within
it.
You know, I spent my entirelast six years of my life
thinking I was developingprofessional status.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
A reputation, a reputation professionally Right.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And come to find out that that reputation that I
thought I was building was notwhat I was building that I
thought I was building was notwhat I was building, and you
know there is situations thathave come up within it that
exposed to me the value that Ithought we had wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And then we were just being used.
Call it what it is, that theywere using us, because they— For
their own agenda For their ownagenda and we created things
that they, they brought intoplay.
We taught people, we trainedpeople how to do what we do.
Yeah, and because it was very,very, very successful right and
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and valuable to them andvaluable to them and they made a
lot of money doing it.
But we, they did not value us.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Right yeah, I mean they valued what we created.
Essentially, we had to walkaway, medically, yes, and we
lost everything, or 95% ofeverything.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
We haven't lost anything yet, but and I don't, I
just say from the materialworld Right.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You know, and I just say from the material world.
Right, you know, and you know Iunderstand.
What you're trying to say is wehaven't lost anything, We've
gained our value system andwe've gained our health.
Gradually it's coming back andour mental and we're going
through healing processes of alot of trauma that we
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experienced physically, mentallyand emotionally within that
journey.
But on a human perspective, welost our home.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
We lost our job.
Yeah, we lost our personalbelongings A lot of them.
Um, you know, we lost a lot inand making that health decision
that our that was guided by ourdoctor saying that if we didn't
remove ourselves from the toxicenvironment that we were being
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exposed to, that we would notheal as quickly or even maybe at
all if we didn't removeourselves correct, and that was
a.
That was just that little pieceof that journey was very, very
challenging.
I mean, we waited four weeks toeven take that step because it
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it you know because they keptselling me they they were
selling me oh well, but it alsohad a lot of impact on you know,
we had to release attachment tothe personal belongings, the
thought of a home, the thoughtof a job which we're programmed
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to believe that okay, if you'vegot your job, then at least you
can make a living financiallyand everything is okay.
And so to have to get to aplace where you are allowing
yourself to release attachmentto all of that paradigm,
programming, matrix of howsociety programs us and trusting
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in your higher self, I mean,that is not for the weak at
heart, it's not.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It is absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And it's still.
You know, there's day by day.
It's just kind of right nowit's, it's, it's a day by day
thing.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
so it is we'll get into more detail.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
We, I feel like we are gonna, you know, I feel like
we'll make another podcastseries oh yeah, in a different
genre, um, because what we'retalking about is mold exposure
and how it impacted usphysically, and then the
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emotional journey that we wentin with it.
And we do want to get the wordout about how, uh, dangerous
mold can be, because I neverknew they honestly never knew
that it could have that effecton the physical body.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I feel like we'll do a podcast and maybe another
genre, totally Bring awarenessto it, bringing that awareness.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Because this journey didn't start with just mold.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I drank non-potable water for months before I was
told it was non-potable, andthat's where my health issue
started well, mine as well,because I was rinsing my fruit
in it I was making hot tea withit I know we were making a pot
of coffee when we got told aboutit right, exactly what three
months into the journey for twomonths, whatever it was, I don't
(10:25):
even remember right, but wewere told oh, my god, you're not
drinking, that are you?
yeah, we have been for a minuteand I've been rinsing my salad
in it you've been drinking it Iwas making bottles of water
because, remember, I startedfeeling bad and I went to the
gym yeah, I was making bottlesof water out of it.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right, well, and so were all the employees when they
were going to the building, andPretty craziness really.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And yeah, so we found out that that water was
attached to the lawn sprinklersystem.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Right In the trailer.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
In the construction trailer and it just the journey
starts from there.
Well, you know, we can't reallytalk about a whole lot of it,
but I will tell you this thattaking back control of this
reality for me was theovercoming the fears of all of
it was not an easy step, Becauseit's fears, it's complete fear,
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Because I mean we were makinggood money.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, we were making good money.
Yeah, we were.
And I mean, you know, it's nota hard job when all the pieces
and parts are in place and allthe processes are in place the
way that you and I do it whenyou're healthy and when the
environment is non-toxic.
It's not a challenging,difficult job for the most part,
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if you do it the way that youand I do we did it very
successfully before we went tothis right, we.
we had our system in place andhad it on total lockdown and
it's repeatable because we wentto this building the same thing
and were even more successful.
(12:04):
Yep, and but whenever you addin exposure.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And physically not feeling well.
On top of all of that, then itmakes a tough journey.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It was an emotional rollercoaster for me.
I mean there was at one point Ithought I had throat cancer.
There was Right.
I mean it was insane.
The doctors couldn't tell uswhat was wrong.
Yeah, um, we, I, we.
I mean thousands and thousandsand thousands of dollars in
supplements and iv joints andgoing to these things trying to
figure just to feel better yeah,and then doctors visits and
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modern medicine prescriptionsand going through the witch hunt
of trying to figure out whatwas making us not feel good and
the testing, of trying to figureout what it is.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
that's not right Something is not right.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Something wasn't right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And so we did, all of you know, we did all these
different testings on the airand the water, and this and that
and all of that came out of ourpocket.
Oh yeah, you know we weretrying we always try to do the
right thing and we always tried.
I didn't want to make blindaccusations that's right, that's
right and that's what I'vealways told people is, once we
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get to a place where we arevoicing it, we have done our due
diligence correct, and we don'topen our mouth until we know
that what's coming out of ourmouth has been validated and
basically proven correct,because we're not about that.
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What?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
what is?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
that we're not about crying wolf right.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Right, right, totally .
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So if we take the time to verbalize it, then that
means that we have done theresearch.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And collected the data that supports our
accusation.
Yeah, I did not want to evercreate problems without doing it
myself, but it was just amazingto me how many different
factors that we exposed withinthe that you know, and so it
just even just added to theconfusion yeah, well, I think
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too, if we go a little bit morespiritual with it and more in
the line of belief systems whichis what I work with what it was
able to do on a positive note,if we take and make a little bit
of a positive spin about it isit was able to allow us the
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platform to rise up and bring upbeliefs that we didn't really
know were there, um, and kind ofuncover that next layer yeah of
the different fears within ajob, for example, or within an
environment, that uh justdifferent fears throughout, and
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we, you know.
Part of the podcast is gettingpeople to understand that
working with your beliefs,patterns and programs can change
your reality, but the otherpart of it for me is sharing my
personal stories, because we'renot some immortal gurus.
Is it mortal or immortal?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
immortal, immortal yeah superheroes that we are
mortal just like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
That's right, yeah we're human, just like everybody
else, and we have our own stuffthat goes on in our reality as
well yeah and so sharing that, Ihope, helps people to realize
and understand that the thingsthat we are giving the nuggets,
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the little morsels ofinformation of you know, try
this or try that or look at thisbelief are usually because
we've experienced them ourselvesfirsthand, and the techniques
that we give as suggestions arethings that we've utilized, that
we're Able to help us along theway of our experience in it.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
We're not sitting here preaching some concept that
we think might work or that wethink is possibly what's going
on.
It's that we live and breathethe actual concepts that we are
putting out there for people.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Right, and we too come across things that we
haven't faced before.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And we, just you know , we're those people that will
continue to try until we findthe solution, or find, you know,
which is why we did the testing, why we checked in spiritually,
why we went through all thisstuff, which is why we did the
testing, why we checked inspiritually, why we went through
all this stuff.
And, like I told somebody theother day, sometimes to create
change you have to do somethingdramatic.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, that's right, you've got to be the you know
we're.
I would say we are notfollowers, we're definitely
leaders in that.
And we're the kind of peoplethat if somebody says you know,
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if you jump off of the ledge,this and this and this will
happen, we're the kind of peoplethat say, okay, you know what,
let's set up an experiment,let's go jump off the ledge and
let's see what happens, so thatwe can come back and tell the
story of what really happens notguess.
I would agree with thatstatement and sometimes we have
to be the individual that doesthat off the wall, catch you by
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surprise action, to speak loudenough for people to get their
attention to create the changeto right to be the change that
you want to see.
And, um, you know that's how weyou and I work we agree we work
constantly to be the change andsometimes with that does come
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some unpleasantries.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
You know people say you're uh, what do they say
about you?
You're arrogant, or?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
um, whatever.
And that's not being arrogant,it's being assertive and being
confident in knowing that weknow what we're doing and we've
got the life experiences to backit.
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Yes, and the knowledge.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Man, I have had a life and I've done a lot of
things in my life and I haveovercome adversity so many times
in my life.
Yeah've uh I have overcomeadversity so many times in my
life yeah, and what amazingresource.
Of life experience yeah, and andthat's what I think is one of
the things that helped empowerme for this change is not
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listening to the bullcrap thatpeople want to because because
they haven't lived a life youknow they want to make.
They want to pass crap thatpeople want to because because
they haven't lived a life youknow they want to make, they
want to pass judgment and theyand they want to try to portray
you as being dishonest, rightLike cause.
That's been one of the thingsin my life I've come across.
A lot People think I'm beingdishonest and I am 100% being
genuine and honest.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Right yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
And because they don't believe it, because they
haven't done it themselves.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And I have been through a lot.
We get that a lot, both of us Alot.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
We've done so many different things.
Because we live large, we'renot afraid to go and do
something different or, on aspin of a dime, change our
entire life to make a statementor just for change, and so
therefore, it's afforded us at avery young age to have lots of
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things on our resume, lots oflife experiences under our belt.
And people don't live that waytraditionally, and so when we go
to share our stories about allthe things that we've done
already in our life, they do,they look at us like oh, you're
making that shit up becausethere ain't no way somebody's
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done all that shit.
And you know, we're livingproof.
And I myself, I've just come toa place where I don't really
give a F.
I don't care if you believe meor not.
I have information in my head.
If you want it, if you don't,then happy trails, buddy.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, beat feet.
Beat feet and get out of myface and the crazy part about it
is those people that we have,over the years, influenced, and
they don't even realize thatwe've influenced them right,
yeah and changed them in waysthat they don't have have any
clue because they haven'trecognized it yet.
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Right, you know, um, especiallywith my previous career as a
chef, cook and owner, I haveinfluenced so many people in my
life just by telling them thatthat it changes their
perspective and changes theiractions.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And they become better at what they do, not
because of what I taught them,but because of the challenge
I've just laid in front of them.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Right.
It brings them to a place ofself-awareness.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And they begin to look at and evaluate what
they're doing within it.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And that is a very valuable place of learning is
whenever you can come to a placeof investigating your own self
yes and deciding what you wantto do to be the change that you
wish would happen.
That's where true I think,evolution comes from you know,
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and that's it.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It's always funny to watch too because, like like,
for example, in where we justleft, we did create a very, very
, very successful uh business ina way that nobody else has done
it before, that created a lotof profit, but yet nobody can
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stop.
Not once did anybody stop andsay, hmm, maybe that stuff is
true.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Because I mean obviously because it's.
I mean you don't do that kindof stuff with not knowing what
you're doing.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That doesn't happen.
You don't create success out ofyour backside Right.
You create success out of hardwork and experience and
successful ways of doing thethings.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I wouldn't say that you create success just out of
hard work.
No, no, no you create successout of not being afraid to go
out and do things and try RightGo out and do things.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
And try.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Right, that's what success actually to me is.
It's not out of going andbusting your nuts and sweating
and bleeding and all of thatnecessarily.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Well, that's a result of trying.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Some of that is in play, depending on what you
decide to do, but I think thekey part of that is not letting
fear keep you from tryingsomething.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Put yourself out there and just try it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
What's it going to hurt?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
What's it going to hurt?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Without failure, you don't know what success feels
like.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Right and God forbid, you should actually accomplish
it.
How good does that feel?
Because that really feels, ohyeah, when you try something
that works go try something andyou figure out how to make it
work, and then it's repeatableyeah, it feels really good.
It's a really good feeling Iagree to do that.
I agree with that statementcompletely that is success to me
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is not letting the fears andthe unknowns prevent you from
even trying it in the firstplace.
Telling yourself that monkeymind lie of oh, it's not gonna
work anyways, or I can't reallydo that, or whatever those dumb
ass stories are that you'retelling yourself that keep you
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sitting on the couch not doingit.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Put yourself out there and just freaking, try it,
man.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
See where it takes you, you know, and that's what
we you and I, both what we'vedone prior to meeting each other
and then being in our lifetogether.
We just throw it out there andsee what lands and what sticks.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Like checking a spaghetti noodle.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Then evaluating it to see if we want to continue to
do it what parts of it do we?
Process and change, or, if wedon't want to continue doing it,
putting it aside and doingsomething different.
I think that's another key partof it, too is allowing yourself
to say okay, I put that outthere, I tried it, but what I
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realized is, in trying it, itreally didn't bring me joy.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
So I'm going to chalk that up as okay.
Now I know that I don't reallylike that.
I just thought I did Right andbeing able to walk away from it
without punishing yourselfagreed, and then going on to try
the next thing.
Because a lot of times what Isee is is that people will go
ahead and get past the fear andtry something and then it's not
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all.
They had mentally, yeah,designed it to be, or it didn't
it.
It wasn't what they thought itwould be right and then they
feel like they either have tocontinue doing it because they
spent money on it, or they thinkthat people are going to view
them as lazy or failures, and sogiving themselves permission to
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set it aside and say, okay, Itried it, not really working for
me, and moving on to the nextthing giving yourself permission
to do that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, to try.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Is a very key component without the criticism,
without the self-judgment andwithout worrying about what the
they thinks about it.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Agreed, you know that's the.
You know what stops people fromtrying self-judgment and
without worrying about what theday thinks about it.
Agreed, you know that's the the.
You know what stops people fromtrying is is societal top
beliefs or fear.
I would agree with that you knowthat you get taught Like.
I remember when we were in highschool and I went through a
personal development class andthe very first thing that he
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taught us was being stagnant isthe worst thing that you can do.
If you're working a job andyou're not applying for jobs to
improve yourself, then you'rescrewing up.
If you're not challengingyourself on a daily basis to do
something different, then you'rescrewing up.
And that's the same thing inthe human world as it is in the
spiritual world.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, I mean yeah.
The only thing really that youcan depend on is change.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
That's correct, because everything changes.
Everything changes, includingyou and everybody around you,
the world, everything changes.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, and the reality is that if we didn't have
change, we would actually becomebored oh, yeah, totally but
then there's a lot of peoplethat say, oh, I don't do well
with change, I don't like change, I don't want change, I want
everything to stay exactly thesame.
But if things didn't changesomewhat, then everybody would
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walk around here being bored outof their mind.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Well, yeah, even the human race changes.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Otherwise, we would all have the same kind of
clothes, we would all have thesame shoes, the same hairstyle
and we would wear the sameuniform every single day.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I agree single day, like if we didn't want change.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
If we didn't like change on some level, it's some
some aspect of change.
There would be no reason tohave different types of clothes,
different types of cars Itotally agree different
personalities, so there's apiece of us that enjoys change.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh, yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It's just that whenever big change comes about,
that makes us uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's a tough place to be sometimes.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It's not always an easy jump to make.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
But I don't think I've ever created change and not
been happy with the changeeventually.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, I can say that there have been times where I've
created change and I Ipersonally tried, you know, a
few different things and itwasn't what it was cracked up to
be.
And I was like, yeah, that'swhy I brought that up.
Yeah, because I've done thatpersonally, I would.
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I went and tried something andI'm yeah, this is not what I
thought it was.
So let's change the channel,because I do not want to do that
anymore.
Kind of like the truck drivingyeah, I had this whole mental
vision that it was going to be.
Hey, let's go travel the world.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
And get paid for it, and get paid to do it yeah, you
do.
You get right.
You get paid to see the world,but you're doing it at 70 mile
an hour down the highway.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, not only that, but you're going in towns well,
yeah, but even when you go todrop a load, you're on the
outskirts in the industrial partof it.
You don't get to go see theculture or any of that like true
vacationing.
Traveling is.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Like when we went through St Louis and we were
like, oh, we can see the arch,nope, nope, we were like 20, 30
miles from it.
It was like this little bittything way off in the distance.
I was like, well, that wasanticlimactic.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah.
No, this is not quite what Ihad hoped it to be, so I'm ready
to change that.
I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
We saw some beautiful areas like the bowl they call
it up in.
I think it was Idaho or NorthDakota.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
North Dakota.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
When we went through up there, that beautiful area,
that's like this you'resurrounded in mountains and it's
in a plateau.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
It was like 120 miles .
Yeah, we saw some reallybeautiful scenery, yeah, and
live, I mean animals everywhere.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
It was insane.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
There was one night we were coming through the
mountains and I had to actuallystop and work my way through the
elk standing in the road,because there was a whole herd
just standing in the middle ofthe road.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, yeah, I think that was a whole herd just
standing in the middle of theroad.
Yeah, yeah, I think that was amoment where I realized, oh my
god, these bastards are big.
Yeah they're.
I didn't realize, I've neverbeen around an elk and so I
didn't really realize the umsize of them, size and magnitude
of how big they were until I'msitting in a semi and their head
, literally is looking in thewindow eye to eye with me over
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the hood.
I'm like holy bejesus man,you're a big bastard yeah, moose
, the same way.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
There's a couple moose up there in north dakota
on that road that they're justmonstrous.
Man, yeah, yeah, but it waspretty crazy, yeah, we did have.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
We had some moments where it was nice scenery, but I
decided real quick that, yeah,it's not.
This is not a career I want.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
This is not for me.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
And so, yeah, there's times where, hey, mad respect
to the truck drivers, though Madrespect to those guys that work
it every day.
Yeah, shout out to the truckdrivers, because I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Because it's a hard test is not an easy not an easy
task, absolutely.
I mean, yes, we both passed it,some passed it before the
others, but it was a journey ofman.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
You had a lot of stuff to remember, oh nothing.
Are you trying to imply thatyou passed yours before I passed
mine?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I wasn't implying nothing.
That's what happened.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
That's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
But you had a good excuse you had the flu.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Let me break it down for you, ladies, and gents, you
got lucky though.
I got through almost the entirething, yeah you had one thing
left With 102 temperature, fromhaving freaking pneumonia or
bronchitis or something.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I don't even know, but you were sick as hell.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I was sick as a freaking dog while I was trying
to do my damn test.
My fever was so high that Icouldn't even.
My vision was blurry and I gotdown to the last part of the
test and I'm like, and I had theblindside 90, which is the
hardest parking maneuver.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
And I couldn't even think straight.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I could not even think my way out of this Tetris
freaking puzzle, and so I did acouple of attempts and I'm like
I cannot even do this.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
No, you didn't, you only did it once.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I see, I don't even remember because my fever was so
high.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, and I was watching.
I was like, oh, she got thisbecause you had it nailed.
All you had to do was do thelittle pull forward.
Did you get one pull forward?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah nailed.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
All you had to do was do the little pull forward,
because you get one pull forward, yeah, you can.
All you had to do was pullforward and you were in there
and I was like, oh, she's gonnaget it, she's got it.
And then I heard the horn knock.
I was like what the hell justhappened I'm telling you, I was
so.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
My vision was so blurry my mind was not right
because the fever was so high Iwas like, because then you have
to go do a driving test on theroad, and I'm thinking about all
that.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I'm like there's no way I can do this.
I just got it, I got to tap, Igot to tap out man.
And it made me have to go redothe whole thing Even the
instructor was like oh my God, Idon't know what happened
Because she came in before youdid.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
She was like I don't know what just happened.
It was because I literallycould not think straight through
the fever.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
That was what I was like what'd she say?
She's like she just said I'mdone and and I was like, oh okay
, I can't, I just couldn't.
Yeah, not, the fever wasn'tletting me, but on the other
side of that too.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
We were also doing that in the middle of winter
yeah and it was like freezingcold outside down the yard
learning in missouri, yeah.
And it was like freezing coldoutside down the yard.
Learning in missouri yeah andit was crazy.
It was a it was a crazyscenario, but anyway.
So we did that for a year and wehated it for the most part, we
hated it yeah, I mean, don't getme wrong, do off-school courses
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and learning to drive the truckand backing and stuff.
That was fun.
I enjoyed that.
I became the yard dog.
I got to move all the after Ipassed all my yard stuff.
They let me have moved thetrucks for all the new students
all the every day.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
So right you do a teacher's pet I didn't become
teacher's pet.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Ridiculous.
He wanted me to show people howto do the blindside parallel
because I did it so good, right,and I did for a while.
I did for like the last.
What two weeks on the yard.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah.
But it was a good time Wellbecause you had already passed,
and so we were there a littlelonger because I tapped out and
I had to go back to the yard andpractice.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
What 10 days, I think it was, While I waited for my
next scheduled appointment toretest?
Yeah, and I just went and hungout on the yard because I had
already passed my test.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Right, exactly, and so you kind of became like the
teacher's aide.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, I was okay with that.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
It gave me something to do.
Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Until they made me leave the yard.
Yeah, but that was only what.
Two days.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
That was a fun journey.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
It was, it was fun.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
There were parts of it that were challenging, but
yeah, the decision on that notbeing my job was a no-brainer,
not a hard decision.
Yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Anyway.
So we're talking about today.
You know these are all examplesof how being able to control
and take over your reality isokay to do Right and make the
decision to overcome fear,overcome the emotional roller
coasters Because our last fouryears have been an emotional
roller coaster for us andspecifically for me and my
(36:35):
thought processes behind.
A lot of things in life changed, and I would say for the better
, yeah, and which I amappreciative of the journey,
because I understand now thatthis world is way different than
it was even just 15 years agowell, I mean by design and I
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agree it's's changed, and so theemotional rollercoaster of it
exposed to me a lot of theweaknesses that I had in my own
belief system.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I mean I wouldn't say weaknesses, I mean just what it
did is it peeled back more ofthe layers, of the aspects that
you were ready to listen to,look at and let go of.
I agree, so that you couldevolve into the next best
version of yourself.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
And that's really what the whole game is about,
honestly.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
That's what we came for.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
And for those of you out there that are listening to
us that wonder what happened weleft because we had a doctor's
order to leave.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
From mold toxicity From mold toxicity.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yep, I want to make sure that everybody understands
that.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
We didn't leave voluntarily.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Well, actually let me rephrase that to be technical
Yours was mold toxicity, Minewas chronic fungal infection
because of mold.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
And so, because of mold, inhaling mold exposure,
I'm a mouth breather at nightand I think that has something
to do with it maybe um, butanyway.
So, but we took back over ourreality and created.
We're creating change bycreating change yeah within us,
and that's where, that's whereour the purpose of our exit was.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Right, it was a medical necessity.
That's right In order tophysically get well and mentally
and emotionally get well, sothat we could continue to
journey on man.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
And we had to make some challenging choices.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Life-changing choices .
Speaker 2 (38:40):
And we did that, and so now we're in the process of
healing and rebuilding, andwhich is a process in itself,
creating just a healing part setpoint, getting ready for the
next level of experiences Iagree because it it did.
It was a good opportunity tolet a lot of garbage come up,
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for both of us, I think.
I agree.
For evolution and growth.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, and I appreciate you running this
railroad car with me.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, exactly, we'll do it together.
You and me kid, you and me kid.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And so here's to my hopefulness of all.
Of it is I hope that ouractions create change and I hope
for others, and I hope that thethat change is for the positive
right and and because I knowour life is going to be okay,
(39:36):
we're going to be all right.
Um, we're both ingenuitive,we're both very spiritually
guided and we we're going tocreate an environment that is
good for us.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, and I know that's the whole point of the
podcast, the books that we writeyeah, they.
You know all of the differentthings that we do is is always
to help people maneuver throughthe change, and the highest and
best way for everybody involvedthat's really our motto is we're
(40:08):
here as a resource to helpwherever we can, however we can,
and for the positive.
You know, even if it is mesaying okay, listen, it's time
for you to put your big girlpanties on and get the hell out
from underneath that baggage, oryou can continue to carry it.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Whichever way you want to go, but hey, listen.
We have some really amazingstuff coming your way, meaning
the audience.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yes, you kind of touched on it a while ago, the
Salty Tarot.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Got the Scripted From Within book that I wrote.
It will be up and available onAmazon and Kindle probably.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, amazon Kindle maybe Books Buy, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
And then we've got some merchandise coming your way
.
We created some really coolSaltyot oracle cards that are
really fun to work with.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
It's the shit your spirit gods will want to tell
you yeah, exactly it's going tobe great, that's going to be fun
.
The deck's going to be blesseduh totes yeah and uh tumblers
don't forget about the grannygrimroars and yes, I've.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I've been writing the cool little spell book of
Granny Grimoire.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
It's the book of everyday spells.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, definitely, granny's been writing her spells
for everybody to share and tapinto, and now that I've got a
lot of free time, I am going tostart doing my guided
meditations and get thoserecorded.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
And get those out there for people to take part in
and use for relaxation sleep.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
That part of me that can hypnotize probably do some
guided hypnosis.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I think we ought to create a Granny Grimoire.
Instagram and let people followyou on Instagram and you read a
spell every day.
That would be kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
A spell for the bad boss, a spell to get new friends
, a spell whatever it is.
Create a daily spell.
That might be kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, we could definitely do that I think we'll
do that granny grim granny grimwars yeah, yeah, that whole
thing came because I have thisreally, really, really cool, uh,
leather bound, blank paged bookthat the kids got me for my
birthday a couple years ago andhaven't really decided what I
(42:46):
want to put in it, but it'sreally really awesome.
On the outside it's got thedifferent gems and chakra stones
on it and then inside it's gotthat old looking parchment paper
and hand-tool leather.
Yeah, like it looks very witchy,yeah and so I was thinking what
(43:07):
can I put in this thing?
That would be really cool too.
And I was like, oh well, youknow what, Let me just do some
fun little poems and stuff andI'll print those off and paste
them in there.
And that's kind of how GrannyGrimm came to be.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, it's going to be fun.
I think we'll do the Instagrampage.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
That might be fun.
I write little spells every daywhenever I get up and depending
on what mood I'm in, becausesometimes I'm spicy sometimes
I'm salty Sometimes.
I'm just granny love that wantsto just feed you cookies and
milk, little glasses of sweettea, poor little queenie.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
I'm just granny love that wants to just feed you
cookies and milk and littleglasses of sweet tea Poor little
queenie.
Yeah, pay attention, I'mworking on a Shopify store now
called the Salty Tarot, and soall those products will be
online.
We'll let you know as soon asthey are available, go find me.
Oh yeah, I don't know We'llhave to.
(44:07):
Maybe we'll put it in thedescription.
Okay, I don't know, because Idon't know how we would plug
that on here when it's justaudio, so we'll have to put it.
We started the GoFundMe page tomitigate the mold treatment and
the health stuff because thetreatment's not cheap and we're
going to lose our insurancereally soon, so, and not to
(44:27):
mention, insurance doesn't cover99% of it anyway.
Um, and we're battling withworkers comp right now.
So the uh, the GoFundMe page isthere to kind of help support
that treatment and we'll, we'll,we'll, uh, put it in the
comments.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, or in the description, because the
treatment is very pricey and theinsurance doesn't cover it
anyways.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
I know it's like $11,000.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
I mean some of the lab testing just to figure out
what treatment you need is notcovered by the insurance.
Yeah, no the thing.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
I've seen online was like $1,800.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
It's not covered.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Because mold needs to be brought to the awareness.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
That's right.
People don't realize howbecause it's people don't
realize how because it can mimicso many other disease processes
with the symptoms.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
I mean they tried to put me on high blood pressure
medicine yeah, it's a weirdjourney, man yeah, the, the I
end up going to my regulardoctor, my heart doctor, my ent.
My ent told me I had a fungalinfection, which come to find
out now it's chronic because ofwhat I've been exposed to.
And now I mean they tried toput me on all these medications.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
And I mean luckily.
I was smart enough and had abrilliant wife that's very, very
educated and she was like youknow.
I don't think you've liked thatmedicine, and you're right.
I took that blood pressuremedicine once and it gave me a
massive headache.
It was insane and so I'm notgoing to do it, and what?
Happened.
Now I'm out of it and my bloodpressure is down.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah.
It's just the exposure to theenvironment For me, I guess, as
a female.
But then, just by the way, mybody's designed mine's in my
digestive tract.
Yeah, mine was mine's in mydigestive track Yep.
And I went on a journey ofbeing like gluten-free,
gluten-sensitive, trying toeliminate that and sugars, and
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basically it's the mold.
Yep, I'm the big cheese who'skind of moldy?
Speaker 1 (46:24):
You're moldy.
You've been in the drawer toolong, so but yeah, there you go.
Anyway.
So that's kind of a preliminarypodcast.
We'll get more in depth into itas we go along.
We just have to be carefulabout what we talk about.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
And for right now, Play it by ear, play it by ear,
but we'll let you everybody, you, everybody know, keep everybody
intact.
And we've been down and out fora little bit, so this is our
first podcast back up in our newplace.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yeah, I have literally been sleeping like 16
hours a day.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
I know right.
I don't ever sleep that muchhere in Daytona, which is an
amazingly healing area.
Area.
It just is the water'sphenomenal, which is an
amazingly healing area.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
It just is the water's phenomenal, the drinking
water is so good, the air is sogood.
I agree.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Just the whole energy , the environment.
It just has a really, really,really healing vibration for us.
So we've been enjoying that.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I agree.
All right, my love, do you feelcomplete today?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, I feel good.
I hope that this is intertwinedwith some positive energy and
give people the courage and thestrength to go and try something
new.
Yeah, outside of the realm offear.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Hey, and if you have anything in your life that you
are struggling to get through,post a comment on here or send
us an email.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Yeah, if you want to be a guest on the show and want
to talk about your journey.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yeah, especially if you have mold experience,
totally you know, get a hold ofus.
We can, we'll, we'll, we'llcall you in and put you on the
show with us and we'll talkthrough it yeah, we can set up a
remote thing, or yeah in person.
I can take phone calls on thismixer, with this fancy mixer we
bought absolutely but uh, anyway, uh don't forget to like,
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We do speaking engagements, we do yep Power of
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say?
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Seminars?
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Seminars.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Seminars.
I'm old brain, you're cheesy.
Anyway, like follow and andshare and check out the website
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We want to hear what you haveto say exactly.
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Speaker 2 (49:05):
Love you.
That was my brain.
Sorry for the delay.
We'll see you next time.
Thank you.
Good morning everybody.
Welcome back to the SpiritualGrind.
We are in studio again creatinga podcast, unfiltered,
uncensored.
Today.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
We have now relocated to the eastern side of Florida
and are producing and takingcontrol of our reality.
Dun, dun dun.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Hey, we got Baby Yoda in the house, we do.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We have a little Baby Yoda, we have a couple of them.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Grogu.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
They're hanging out.
Yeah, grogu.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
They're hanging out Grogu.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Grogu Goo Grow.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Thank you all for listening and tuning in.
We are here today to talk aboutcontrolling or mastering our
reality, because our realitiesare what we make of them and our
human has a tendency to allowthem to get a control on our
belief systems, and we get offtrack sometimes and you have to
(01:35):
take control of your reality andquit allowing things, and
that's what my topic is today.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Do you like the topic ?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I like any topic.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
My thought process is on.
It is I myself allowed my humanbelief system to control my
reality too long, and we justrecently took that back, because
the reality is pretty simple.
We were in a environment thatwas not healthy, that was
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creating literally human healthproblems, and I allowed that to
go on way too long why do youthink you did that?
Because of my beliefs, a fear,fear of financial issues, a fear
of people's opinion of me.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And I came to the realization that and this was a
thing that came to me two orthree days ago was I was so
concerned about what they thinkof me, but when we removed
ourselves from the situation, Ifound out how they truly think
of us anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Right, right.
Yeah, that's one of the.
I mean, I think that's a verygood topic right there, because
sometimes what happens is wetell ourselves a story of what
other?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
people.
Let's call it what it is it's alie Okay.
We tell ourselves lies we do.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
We do.
You're right.
I was trying not to be so heavy, but you're right.
I mean, generally speaking, asthe salty tarot, I will call you
out on a bullshit lie, andthat's what we do.
We tell ourselves these storiesthat are full-on unverified
lies of and it could be goodlies, it could be bad lies.
(03:31):
You know, and just like youbrought to the table, you
thought that this a viewpoint orperception that was positive
and and valued, as us, as a team, and the reality is fucking
(03:54):
liars the reality is that whenyou make a stand for what you
believe in, or justice, orwhatever, whatever that is, the
true color of those peoplearound you will reveal itself.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, you know, there's no faux pas out there
too.
That says, when you want toknow who your true friends are,
change life and you'll find outwho your true friends are.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's right.
That's right and that goesalong with anything, not just a
reality that you've created.
You know we teach that thatwhenever you're going through
even your awakening process andyou're changing your vibrational
frequency from heavy to lighterto lighter, correct, your
circle of people will changebecause they are not willing to
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go through the metamorphosis ofchange with you and they choose
to stay at that lower frequency,and so you'll part ways.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And that goes with any kind of relationship, be it
an intimate one, be it a friend,be it a relationship with your
employer.
Um, you know, those are alltypes of relationships.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
And they will change.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
They do and you find out who your friends are within
it.
You know, I spent my entirelast six years of my life
thinking I was developingprofessional status.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
A reputation, a reputation professionally Right.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And come to find out that that reputation that I
thought I was building was notwhat I was building that I
thought I was building was notwhat I was building, and you
know there is situations thathave come up within it that
exposed to me the value that Ithought we had wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And then we were just being used.
Call it what it is, that theywere using us, because they— For
their own agenda For their ownagenda and we created things
that they, they brought intoplay.
We taught people, we trainedpeople how to do what we do.
Yeah, and because it was very,very, very successful right and
(06:20):
and valuable to them andvaluable to them and they made a
lot of money doing it.
But we, they did not value us.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Right yeah, I mean they valued what we created.
Essentially, we had to walkaway, medically, yes, and we
lost everything, or 95% ofeverything.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
We haven't lost anything yet, but and I don't, I
just say from the materialworld Right.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You know, and I just say from the material world.
Right, you know, and you know Iunderstand.
What you're trying to say is wehaven't lost anything, We've
gained our value system andwe've gained our health.
Gradually it's coming back andour mental and we're going
through healing processes of alot of trauma that we
(07:06):
experienced physically, mentallyand emotionally within that
journey.
But on a human perspective, welost our home.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
We lost our job.
Yeah, we lost our personalbelongings A lot of them.
Um, you know, we lost a lot inand making that health decision
that our that was guided by ourdoctor saying that if we didn't
remove ourselves from the toxicenvironment that we were being
(07:39):
exposed to, that we would notheal as quickly or even maybe at
all if we didn't removeourselves correct, and that was
a.
That was just that little pieceof that journey was very, very
challenging.
I mean, we waited four weeks toeven take that step because it
(08:02):
it you know because they keptselling me they they were
selling me oh well, but it alsohad a lot of impact on you know,
we had to release attachment tothe personal belongings, the
thought of a home, the thoughtof a job which we're programmed
(08:25):
to believe that okay, if you'vegot your job, then at least you
can make a living financiallyand everything is okay.
And so to have to get to aplace where you are allowing
yourself to release attachmentto all of that paradigm,
programming, matrix of howsociety programs us and trusting
(08:50):
in your higher self, I mean,that is not for the weak at
heart, it's not.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
It is absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
And it's still.
You know, there's day by day.
It's just kind of right nowit's, it's, it's a day by day
thing.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
so it is we'll get into more detail.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
We, I feel like we are gonna, you know, I feel like
we'll make another podcastseries oh yeah, in a different
genre, um, because what we'retalking about is mold exposure
and how it impacted usphysically, and then the
(09:30):
emotional journey that we wentin with it.
And we do want to get the wordout about how, uh, dangerous
mold can be, because I neverknew they honestly never knew
that it could have that effecton the physical body.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
I feel like we'll do a podcast and maybe another
genre, totally Bring awarenessto it, bringing that awareness.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Because this journey didn't start with just mold.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I drank non-potable water for months before I was
told it was non-potable, andthat's where my health issue
started well, mine as well,because I was rinsing my fruit
in it I was making hot tea withit I know we were making a pot
of coffee when we got told aboutit right, exactly what three
months into the journey for twomonths, whatever it was, I don't
(10:25):
even remember right, but wewere told oh, my god, you're not
drinking, that are you?
yeah, we have been for a minuteand I've been rinsing my salad
in it you've been drinking it Iwas making bottles of water
because, remember, I startedfeeling bad and I went to the
gym yeah, I was making bottlesof water out of it.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Right, well, and so were all the employees when they
were going to the building, andPretty craziness really.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
And yeah, so we found out that that water was
attached to the lawn sprinklersystem.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Right In the trailer.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
In the construction trailer and it just the journey
starts from there.
Well, you know, we can't reallytalk about a whole lot of it,
but I will tell you this thattaking back control of this
reality for me was theovercoming the fears of all of
it was not an easy step, Becauseit's fears, it's complete fear,
(11:19):
Because I mean we were makinggood money.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yeah, we were making good money.
Yeah, we were.
And I mean, you know, it's nota hard job when all the pieces
and parts are in place and allthe processes are in place the
way that you and I do it whenyou're healthy and when the
environment is non-toxic.
It's not a challenging,difficult job for the most part,
(11:43):
if you do it the way that youand I do we did it very
successfully before we went tothis right, we.
we had our system in place andhad it on total lockdown and
it's repeatable because we wentto this building the same thing
and were even more successful.
(12:04):
Yep, and but whenever you addin exposure.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
And physically not feeling well.
On top of all of that, then itmakes a tough journey.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It was an emotional rollercoaster for me.
I mean there was at one point Ithought I had throat cancer.
There was Right.
I mean it was insane.
The doctors couldn't tell uswhat was wrong.
Yeah, um, we, I, we.
I mean thousands and thousandsand thousands of dollars in
supplements and iv joints andgoing to these things trying to
figure just to feel better yeah,and then doctors visits and
(12:40):
modern medicine prescriptionsand going through the witch hunt
of trying to figure out whatwas making us not feel good and
the testing, of trying to figureout what it is.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
that's not right Something is not right.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Something wasn't right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And so we did, all of you know, we did all these
different testings on the airand the water, and this and that
and all of that came out of ourpocket.
Oh yeah, you know we weretrying we always try to do the
right thing and we always tried.
I didn't want to make blindaccusations that's right, that's
right and that's what I'vealways told people is, once we
(13:16):
get to a place where we arevoicing it, we have done our due
diligence correct, and we don'topen our mouth until we know
that what's coming out of ourmouth has been validated and
basically proven correct,because we're not about that.
(13:38):
What?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
what is?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
that we're not about crying wolf right.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Right, right, totally .
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So if we take the time to verbalize it, then that
means that we have done theresearch.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
And collected the data that supports our
accusation.
Yeah, I did not want to evercreate problems without doing it
myself, but it was just amazingto me how many different
factors that we exposed withinthe that you know, and so it
just even just added to theconfusion yeah, well, I think
(14:13):
too, if we go a little bit morespiritual with it and more in
the line of belief systems whichis what I work with what it was
able to do on a positive note,if we take and make a little bit
of a positive spin about it isit was able to allow us the
(14:38):
platform to rise up and bring upbeliefs that we didn't really
know were there, um, and kind ofuncover that next layer yeah of
the different fears within ajob, for example, or within an
environment, that uh justdifferent fears throughout, and
(15:02):
we, you know.
Part of the podcast is gettingpeople to understand that
working with your beliefs,patterns and programs can change
your reality, but the otherpart of it for me is sharing my
personal stories, because we'renot some immortal gurus.
Is it mortal or immortal?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
immortal, immortal yeah superheroes that we are
mortal just like everybody else.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
That's right, yeah we're human, just like everybody
else, and we have our own stuffthat goes on in our reality as
well yeah and so sharing that, Ihope, helps people to realize
and understand that the thingsthat we are giving the nuggets,
(15:50):
the little morsels ofinformation of you know, try
this or try that or look at thisbelief are usually because
we've experienced them ourselvesfirsthand, and the techniques
that we give as suggestions arethings that we've utilized, that
we're Able to help us along theway of our experience in it.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
We're not sitting here preaching some concept that
we think might work or that wethink is possibly what's going
on.
It's that we live and breathethe actual concepts that we are
putting out there for people.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Right, and we too come across things that we
haven't faced before.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
And we, just you know , we're those people that will
continue to try until we findthe solution, or find, you know,
which is why we did the testing, why we checked in spiritually,
why we went through all thisstuff, which is why we did the
testing, why we checked inspiritually, why we went through
all this stuff.
And, like I told somebody theother day, sometimes to create
change you have to do somethingdramatic.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, that's right, you've got to be the you know
we're.
I would say we are notfollowers, we're definitely
leaders in that.
And we're the kind of peoplethat if somebody says you know,
(17:22):
if you jump off of the ledge,this and this and this will
happen, we're the kind of peoplethat say, okay, you know what,
let's set up an experiment,let's go jump off the ledge and
let's see what happens, so thatwe can come back and tell the
story of what really happens notguess.
I would agree with thatstatement and sometimes we have
to be the individual that doesthat off the wall, catch you by
(17:49):
surprise action, to speak loudenough for people to get their
attention to create the changeto right to be the change that
you want to see.
And, um, you know that's how weyou and I work we agree we work
constantly to be the change andsometimes with that does come
(18:13):
some unpleasantries.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
You know people say you're uh, what do they say
about you?
You're arrogant, or?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
um, whatever.
And that's not being arrogant,it's being assertive and being
confident in knowing that weknow what we're doing and we've
got the life experiences to backit.
(18:44):
Yes, and the knowledge.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Man, I have had a life and I've done a lot of
things in my life and I haveovercome adversity so many times
in my life.
Yeah've uh I have overcomeadversity so many times in my
life yeah, and what amazingresource.
Of life experience yeah, and andthat's what I think is one of
the things that helped empowerme for this change is not
(19:09):
listening to the bullcrap thatpeople want to because because
they haven't lived a life youknow they want to make.
They want to pass crap thatpeople want to because because
they haven't lived a life youknow they want to make, they
want to pass judgment and theyand they want to try to portray
you as being dishonest, rightLike cause.
That's been one of the thingsin my life I've come across.
A lot People think I'm beingdishonest and I am 100% being
genuine and honest.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Right yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
And because they don't believe it, because they
haven't done it themselves.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And I have been through a lot.
We get that a lot, both of us Alot.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
We've done so many different things.
Because we live large, we'renot afraid to go and do
something different or, on aspin of a dime, change our
entire life to make a statementor just for change, and so
therefore, it's afforded us at avery young age to have lots of
(20:00):
things on our resume, lots oflife experiences under our belt.
And people don't live that waytraditionally, and so when we go
to share our stories about allthe things that we've done
already in our life, they do,they look at us like oh, you're
making that shit up becausethere ain't no way somebody's
(20:22):
done all that shit.
And you know, we're livingproof.
And I myself, I've just come toa place where I don't really
give a F.
I don't care if you believe meor not.
I have information in my head.
If you want it, if you don't,then happy trails, buddy.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, beat feet.
Beat feet and get out of myface and the crazy part about it
is those people that we have,over the years, influenced, and
they don't even realize thatwe've influenced them right,
yeah and changed them in waysthat they don't have have any
clue because they haven'trecognized it yet.
(21:03):
Right, you know, um, especiallywith my previous career as a
chef, cook and owner, I haveinfluenced so many people in my
life just by telling them thatthat it changes their
perspective and changes theiractions.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
And they become better at what they do, not
because of what I taught them,but because of the challenge
I've just laid in front of them.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Right.
It brings them to a place ofself-awareness.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
And they begin to look at and evaluate what
they're doing within it.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And that is a very valuable place of learning is
whenever you can come to a placeof investigating your own self
yes and deciding what you wantto do to be the change that you
wish would happen.
That's where true I think,evolution comes from you know,
(22:09):
and that's it.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
It's always funny to watch too because, like like,
for example, in where we justleft, we did create a very, very
, very successful uh business ina way that nobody else has done
it before, that created a lotof profit, but yet nobody can
(22:31):
stop.
Not once did anybody stop andsay, hmm, maybe that stuff is
true.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Because I mean obviously because it's.
I mean you don't do that kindof stuff with not knowing what
you're doing.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That doesn't happen.
You don't create success out ofyour backside Right.
You create success out of hardwork and experience and
successful ways of doing thethings.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I wouldn't say that you create success just out of
hard work.
No, no, no you create successout of not being afraid to go
out and do things and try RightGo out and do things.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
And try.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Right, that's what success actually to me is.
It's not out of going andbusting your nuts and sweating
and bleeding and all of thatnecessarily.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Well, that's a result of trying.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Some of that is in play, depending on what you
decide to do, but I think thekey part of that is not letting
fear keep you from tryingsomething.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Put yourself out there and just try it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
What's it going to hurt?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
What's it going to hurt?
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Without failure, you don't know what success feels
like.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Right and God forbid, you should actually accomplish
it.
How good does that feel?
Because that really feels, ohyeah, when you try something
that works go try something andyou figure out how to make it
work, and then it's repeatableyeah, it feels really good.
It's a really good feeling Iagree to do that.
I agree with that statementcompletely that is success to me
(24:11):
is not letting the fears andthe unknowns prevent you from
even trying it in the firstplace.
Telling yourself that monkeymind lie of oh, it's not gonna
work anyways, or I can't reallydo that, or whatever those dumb
ass stories are that you'retelling yourself that keep you
(24:33):
sitting on the couch not doingit.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Put yourself out there and just freaking, try it,
man.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
See where it takes you, you know, and that's what
we you and I, both what we'vedone prior to meeting each other
and then being in our lifetogether.
We just throw it out there andsee what lands and what sticks.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Like checking a spaghetti noodle.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Then evaluating it to see if we want to continue to
do it what parts of it do we?
Process and change, or, if wedon't want to continue doing it,
putting it aside and doingsomething different.
I think that's another key partof it, too is allowing yourself
to say okay, I put that outthere, I tried it, but what I
(25:19):
realized is, in trying it, itreally didn't bring me joy.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
So I'm going to chalk that up as okay.
Now I know that I don't reallylike that.
I just thought I did Right andbeing able to walk away from it
without punishing yourselfagreed, and then going on to try
the next thing.
Because a lot of times what Isee is is that people will go
ahead and get past the fear andtry something and then it's not
(25:47):
all.
They had mentally, yeah,designed it to be, or it didn't
it.
It wasn't what they thought itwould be right and then they
feel like they either have tocontinue doing it because they
spent money on it, or they thinkthat people are going to view
them as lazy or failures, and sogiving themselves permission to
(26:12):
set it aside and say, okay, Itried it, not really working for
me, and moving on to the nextthing giving yourself permission
to do that.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, to try.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Is a very key component without the criticism,
without the self-judgment andwithout worrying about what the
they thinks about it.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Agreed, you know that's the.
You know what stops people fromtrying self-judgment and
without worrying about what theday thinks about it.
Agreed, you know that's the the.
You know what stops people fromtrying is is societal top
beliefs or fear.
I would agree with that you knowthat you get taught Like.
I remember when we were in highschool and I went through a
personal development class andthe very first thing that he
(26:54):
taught us was being stagnant isthe worst thing that you can do.
If you're working a job andyou're not applying for jobs to
improve yourself, then you'rescrewing up.
If you're not challengingyourself on a daily basis to do
something different, then you'rescrewing up.
And that's the same thing inthe human world as it is in the
spiritual world.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, I mean yeah.
The only thing really that youcan depend on is change.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
That's correct, because everything changes.
Everything changes, includingyou and everybody around you,
the world, everything changes.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Well, and the reality is that if we didn't have
change, we would actually becomebored oh, yeah, totally but
then there's a lot of peoplethat say, oh, I don't do well
with change, I don't like change, I don't want change, I want
everything to stay exactly thesame.
But if things didn't changesomewhat, then everybody would
(28:02):
walk around here being bored outof their mind.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Well, yeah, even the human race changes.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Otherwise, we would all have the same kind of
clothes, we would all have thesame shoes, the same hairstyle
and we would wear the sameuniform every single day.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
I agree single day, like if we didn't want change.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
If we didn't like change on some level, it's some
some aspect of change.
There would be no reason tohave different types of clothes,
different types of cars Itotally agree different
personalities, so there's apiece of us that enjoys change.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oh, yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It's just that whenever big change comes about,
that makes us uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's a tough place to be sometimes.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
It's not always an easy jump to make.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
But I don't think I've ever created change and not
been happy with the changeeventually.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, I can say that there have been times where I've
created change and I Ipersonally tried, you know, a
few different things and itwasn't what it was cracked up to
be.
And I was like, yeah, that'swhy I brought that up.
Yeah, because I've done thatpersonally, I would.
(29:19):
I went and tried something andI'm yeah, this is not what I
thought it was.
So let's change the channel,because I do not want to do that
anymore.
Kind of like the truck drivingyeah, I had this whole mental
vision that it was going to be.
Hey, let's go travel the world.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
And get paid for it, and get paid to do it yeah, you
do.
You get right.
You get paid to see the world,but you're doing it at 70 mile
an hour down the highway.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, not only that, but you're going in towns well,
yeah, but even when you go todrop a load, you're on the
outskirts in the industrial partof it.
You don't get to go see theculture or any of that like true
vacationing.
Traveling is.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Like when we went through St Louis and we were
like, oh, we can see the arch,nope, nope, we were like 20, 30
miles from it.
It was like this little bittything way off in the distance.
I was like, well, that wasanticlimactic.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah.
No, this is not quite what Ihad hoped it to be, so I'm ready
to change that.
I mean, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
We saw some beautiful areas like the bowl they call
it up in.
I think it was Idaho or NorthDakota.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
North Dakota.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
When we went through up there, that beautiful area,
that's like this you'resurrounded in mountains and it's
in a plateau.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
It was like 120 miles .
Yeah, we saw some reallybeautiful scenery, yeah, and
live, I mean animals everywhere.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
It was insane.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
There was one night we were coming through the
mountains and I had to actuallystop and work my way through the
elk standing in the road,because there was a whole herd
just standing in the middle ofthe road.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, yeah, I think that was a whole herd just
standing in the middle of theroad.
Yeah, yeah, I think that was amoment where I realized, oh my
god, these bastards are big.
Yeah they're.
I didn't realize, I've neverbeen around an elk and so I
didn't really realize the umsize of them, size and magnitude
of how big they were until I'msitting in a semi and their head
, literally is looking in thewindow eye to eye with me over
(31:24):
the hood.
I'm like holy bejesus man,you're a big bastard yeah, moose
, the same way.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
There's a couple moose up there in north dakota
on that road that they're justmonstrous.
Man, yeah, yeah, but it waspretty crazy, yeah, we did have.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
We had some moments where it was nice scenery, but I
decided real quick that, yeah,it's not.
This is not a career I want.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
This is not for me.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
And so, yeah, there's times where, hey, mad respect
to the truck drivers, though Madrespect to those guys that work
it every day.
Yeah, shout out to the truckdrivers, because I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Because it's a hard test is not an easy not an easy
task, absolutely.
I mean, yes, we both passed it,some passed it before the
others, but it was a journey ofman.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
You had a lot of stuff to remember, oh nothing.
Are you trying to imply thatyou passed yours before I passed
mine?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I wasn't implying nothing.
That's what happened.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
That's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
But you had a good excuse you had the flu.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Let me break it down for you, ladies, and gents, you
got lucky though.
I got through almost the entirething, yeah you had one thing
left With 102 temperature, fromhaving freaking pneumonia or
bronchitis or something.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
I don't even know, but you were sick as hell.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I was sick as a freaking dog while I was trying
to do my damn test.
My fever was so high that Icouldn't even.
My vision was blurry and I gotdown to the last part of the
test and I'm like, and I had theblindside 90, which is the
hardest parking maneuver.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
And I couldn't even think straight.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I could not even think my way out of this Tetris
freaking puzzle, and so I did acouple of attempts and I'm like
I cannot even do this.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
No, you didn't, you only did it once.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I see, I don't even remember because my fever was so
high.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, and I was watching.
I was like, oh, she got thisbecause you had it nailed.
All you had to do was do thelittle pull forward.
Did you get one pull forward?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah nailed.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
All you had to do was do the little pull forward,
because you get one pull forward, yeah, you can.
All you had to do was pullforward and you were in there
and I was like, oh, she's gonnaget it, she's got it.
And then I heard the horn knock.
I was like what the hell justhappened I'm telling you, I was
so.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
My vision was so blurry my mind was not right
because the fever was so high Iwas like, because then you have
to go do a driving test on theroad, and I'm thinking about all
that.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I'm like there's no way I can do this.
I just got it, I got to tap, Igot to tap out man.
And it made me have to go redothe whole thing Even the
instructor was like oh my God, Idon't know what happened
Because she came in before youdid.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
She was like I don't know what just happened.
It was because I literallycould not think straight through
the fever.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
That was what I was like what'd she say?
She's like she just said I'mdone and and I was like, oh okay
, I can't, I just couldn't.
Yeah, not, the fever wasn'tletting me, but on the other
side of that too.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
We were also doing that in the middle of winter
yeah and it was like freezingcold outside down the yard
learning in missouri, yeah.
And it was like freezing coldoutside down the yard.
Learning in missouri yeah andit was crazy.
It was a it was a crazyscenario, but anyway.
So we did that for a year and wehated it for the most part, we
hated it yeah, I mean, don't getme wrong, do off-school courses
(34:56):
and learning to drive the truckand backing and stuff.
That was fun.
I enjoyed that.
I became the yard dog.
I got to move all the after Ipassed all my yard stuff.
They let me have moved thetrucks for all the new students
all the every day.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
So right you do a teacher's pet I didn't become
teacher's pet.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Ridiculous.
He wanted me to show people howto do the blindside parallel
because I did it so good, right,and I did for a while.
I did for like the last.
What two weeks on the yard.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah.
But it was a good time Wellbecause you had already passed,
and so we were there a littlelonger because I tapped out and
I had to go back to the yard andpractice.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
What 10 days, I think it was, While I waited for my
next scheduled appointment toretest?
Yeah, and I just went and hungout on the yard because I had
already passed my test.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Right, exactly, and so you kind of became like the
teacher's aide.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, I was okay with that.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
It gave me something to do.
Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Until they made me leave the yard.
Yeah, but that was only what.
Two days.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
That was a fun journey.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
It was, it was fun.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
There were parts of it that were challenging, but
yeah, the decision on that notbeing my job was a no-brainer,
not a hard decision.
Yeah, no.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Anyway.
So we're talking about today.
You know these are all examplesof how being able to control
and take over your reality isokay to do Right and make the
decision to overcome fear,overcome the emotional roller
coasters Because our last fouryears have been an emotional
roller coaster for us andspecifically for me and my
(36:35):
thought processes behind.
A lot of things in life changed, and I would say for the better
, yeah, and which I amappreciative of the journey,
because I understand now thatthis world is way different than
it was even just 15 years agowell, I mean by design and I
(36:56):
agree it's's changed, and so theemotional rollercoaster of it
exposed to me a lot of theweaknesses that I had in my own
belief system.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I mean I wouldn't say weaknesses, I mean just what it
did is it peeled back more ofthe layers, of the aspects that
you were ready to listen to,look at and let go of.
I agree, so that you couldevolve into the next best
version of yourself.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
And that's really what the whole game is about,
honestly.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
That's what we came for.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
And for those of you out there that are listening to
us that wonder what happened weleft because we had a doctor's
order to leave.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
From mold toxicity From mold toxicity.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yep, I want to make sure that everybody understands
that.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
We didn't leave voluntarily.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Well, actually let me rephrase that to be technical
Yours was mold toxicity, Minewas chronic fungal infection
because of mold.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
And so, because of mold, inhaling mold exposure,
I'm a mouth breather at nightand I think that has something
to do with it maybe um, butanyway.
So, but we took back over ourreality and created.
We're creating change bycreating change yeah within us,
and that's where, that's whereour the purpose of our exit was.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Right, it was a medical necessity.
That's right In order tophysically get well and mentally
and emotionally get well, sothat we could continue to
journey on man.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
And we had to make some challenging choices.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Life-changing choices .
Speaker 2 (38:40):
And we did that, and so now we're in the process of
healing and rebuilding, andwhich is a process in itself,
creating just a healing part setpoint, getting ready for the
next level of experiences Iagree because it it did.
It was a good opportunity tolet a lot of garbage come up,
(39:00):
for both of us, I think.
I agree.
For evolution and growth.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, and I appreciate you running this
railroad car with me.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, exactly, we'll do it together.
You and me kid, you and me kid.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
And so here's to my hopefulness of all.
Of it is I hope that ouractions create change and I hope
for others, and I hope that thethat change is for the positive
right and and because I knowour life is going to be okay,
(39:36):
we're going to be all right.
Um, we're both ingenuitive,we're both very spiritually
guided and we we're going tocreate an environment that is
good for us.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, and I know that's the whole point of the
podcast, the books that we writeyeah, they.
You know all of the differentthings that we do is is always
to help people maneuver throughthe change, and the highest and
best way for everybody involvedthat's really our motto is we're
(40:08):
here as a resource to helpwherever we can, however we can,
and for the positive.
You know, even if it is mesaying okay, listen, it's time
for you to put your big girlpanties on and get the hell out
from underneath that baggage, oryou can continue to carry it.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Whichever way you want to go, but hey, listen.
We have some really amazingstuff coming your way, meaning
the audience.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yes, you kind of touched on it a while ago, the
Salty Tarot.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Got the Scripted From Within book that I wrote.
It will be up and available onAmazon and Kindle probably.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, amazon Kindle maybe Books Buy, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
And then we've got some merchandise coming your way
.
We created some really coolSaltyot oracle cards that are
really fun to work with.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
It's the shit your spirit gods will want to tell
you yeah, exactly it's going tobe great, that's going to be fun
.
The deck's going to be blesseduh totes yeah and uh tumblers
don't forget about the grannygrimroars and yes, I've.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I've been writing the cool little spell book of
Granny Grimoire.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
It's the book of everyday spells.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, definitely, granny's been writing her spells
for everybody to share and tapinto, and now that I've got a
lot of free time, I am going tostart doing my guided
meditations and get thoserecorded.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
And get those out there for people to take part in
and use for relaxation sleep.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
That part of me that can hypnotize probably do some
guided hypnosis.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I think we ought to create a Granny Grimoire.
Instagram and let people followyou on Instagram and you read a
spell every day.
That would be kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
A spell for the bad boss, a spell to get new friends
, a spell whatever it is.
Create a daily spell.
That might be kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, we could definitely do that I think we'll
do that granny grim granny grimwars yeah, yeah, that whole
thing came because I have thisreally, really, really cool, uh,
leather bound, blank paged bookthat the kids got me for my
birthday a couple years ago andhaven't really decided what I
(42:46):
want to put in it, but it'sreally really awesome.
On the outside it's got thedifferent gems and chakra stones
on it and then inside it's gotthat old looking parchment paper
and hand-tool leather.
Yeah, like it looks very witchy,yeah and so I was thinking what
(43:07):
can I put in this thing?
That would be really cool too.
And I was like, oh well, youknow what, Let me just do some
fun little poems and stuff andI'll print those off and paste
them in there.
And that's kind of how GrannyGrimm came to be.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, it's going to be fun.
I think we'll do the Instagrampage.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
That might be fun.
I write little spells every daywhenever I get up and depending
on what mood I'm in, becausesometimes I'm spicy sometimes
I'm salty Sometimes.
I'm just granny love that wantsto just feed you cookies and
milk, little glasses of sweettea, poor little queenie.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
I'm just granny love that wants to just feed you
cookies and milk and littleglasses of sweet tea Poor little
queenie.
Yeah, pay attention, I'mworking on a Shopify store now
called the Salty Tarot, and soall those products will be
online.
We'll let you know as soon asthey are available, go find me.
Oh yeah, I don't know We'llhave to.
(44:07):
Maybe we'll put it in thedescription.
Okay, I don't know, because Idon't know how we would plug
that on here when it's justaudio, so we'll have to put it.
We started the GoFundMe page tomitigate the mold treatment and
the health stuff because thetreatment's not cheap and we're
going to lose our insurancereally soon, so, and not to
(44:27):
mention, insurance doesn't cover99% of it anyway.
Um, and we're battling withworkers comp right now.
So the uh, the GoFundMe page isthere to kind of help support
that treatment and we'll, we'll,we'll, uh, put it in the
comments.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, or in the description, because the
treatment is very pricey and theinsurance doesn't cover it
anyways.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
I know it's like $11,000.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
I mean some of the lab testing just to figure out
what treatment you need is notcovered by the insurance.
Yeah, no the thing.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
I've seen online was like $1,800.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
It's not covered.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Because mold needs to be brought to the awareness.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
That's right.
People don't realize howbecause it's people don't
realize how because it can mimicso many other disease processes
with the symptoms.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
I mean they tried to put me on high blood pressure
medicine yeah, it's a weirdjourney, man yeah, the, the I
end up going to my regulardoctor, my heart doctor, my ent.
My ent told me I had a fungalinfection, which come to find
out now it's chronic because ofwhat I've been exposed to.
And now I mean they tried toput me on all these medications.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
And I mean luckily.
I was smart enough and had abrilliant wife that's very, very
educated and she was like youknow.
I don't think you've liked thatmedicine, and you're right.
I took that blood pressuremedicine once and it gave me a
massive headache.
It was insane and so I'm notgoing to do it, and what?
Happened.
Now I'm out of it and my bloodpressure is down.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yeah.
It's just the exposure to theenvironment For me, I guess, as
a female.
But then, just by the way, mybody's designed mine's in my
digestive tract.
Yeah, mine was mine's in mydigestive track Yep.
And I went on a journey ofbeing like gluten-free,
gluten-sensitive, trying toeliminate that and sugars, and
(46:16):
basically it's the mold.
Yep, I'm the big cheese who'skind of moldy?
Speaker 1 (46:24):
You're moldy.
You've been in the drawer toolong, so but yeah, there you go.
Anyway.
So that's kind of a preliminarypodcast.
We'll get more in depth into itas we go along.
We just have to be carefulabout what we talk about.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
And for right now, Play it by ear, play it by ear,
but we'll let you everybody, you, everybody know, keep everybody
intact.
And we've been down and out fora little bit, so this is our
first podcast back up in our newplace.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Yeah, I have literally been sleeping like 16
hours a day.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
I know right.
I don't ever sleep that muchhere in Daytona, which is an
amazingly healing area.
Area.
It just is the water'sphenomenal, which is an
amazingly healing area.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
It just is the water's phenomenal, the drinking
water is so good, the air is sogood.
I agree.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Just the whole energy , the environment.
It just has a really, really,really healing vibration for us.
So we've been enjoying that.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I agree.
All right, my love, do you feelcomplete today?
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, I feel good.
I hope that this is intertwinedwith some positive energy and
give people the courage and thestrength to go and try something
new.
Yeah, outside of the realm offear.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Hey, and if you have anything in your life that you
are struggling to get through,post a comment on here or send
us an email.
Speaker 2 (47:58):
Yeah, if you want to be a guest on the show and want
to talk about your journey.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yeah, especially if you have mold experience,
totally you know, get a hold ofus.
We can, we'll, we'll, we'llcall you in and put you on the
show with us and we'll talkthrough it yeah, we can set up a
remote thing, or yeah in person.
I can take phone calls on thismixer, with this fancy mixer we
bought absolutely but uh, anyway, uh don't forget to like,
follow and share.
(48:24):
And look, hey, check outwebsite wwwthemerchcentersorg.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
We do speaking engagements, we do yep Power of
thought school energy workseminars so yeah, what did you
say?
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Seminars?
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Seminars.
Speaker 1 (48:41):
Seminars.
I'm old brain, you're cheesy.
Anyway, like follow and andshare and check out the website
and whatever you do, please,please, comment on this.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
make comments we want to.
We want to hear what you haveto say exactly.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
We'd love to hear from you and don't forget to
ring that bell and we hope y'allhave another awesome day.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Love you.
That was my brain.
Sorry for the delay.
We'll see you next time.
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