August 19, 2025 • 56 mins
What happens when a broken computer leads to a breakthrough conversation about sex? In this raw and revealing episode, we dive deep into the baggage we all carry into our intimate relationships and how these unconscious patterns shape our experiences.
Starting with an unexpected tech failure, we discover how looking for the "why" behind challenges isn't always as important as making the right next choice. This principle becomes our framework for examining the complex, often uncomfortable topic of sex in committed relationships.
We candidly share how men are often programmed to view sex as conquest and performance, while women frequently approach it as obligation and duty. These contrasting perspectives create disconnection right where we most crave intimacy. Through personal stories and professional insights from our counseling work, we illustrate how sexual expectations can either strengthen or sabotage relationships.
The conversation explores society's damaging templates around sexuality – from the "wifely duty" mindset that turns intimacy into a chore, to the manipulation tactics that use sex as currency. We examine how childhood exposures and parental modeling shape our adult behavior, sometimes in ways we don't recognize until they're causing problems in our relationships.
Most importantly, we emphasize the power of authentic communication. The ability to openly discuss desires, boundaries, and feedback without shame or defensiveness transforms sex from a potential battleground into a genuine spiritual connection. When partners can speak honestly about what works and what doesn't, they create space for true pleasure and intimacy.
This episode marks the beginning of a series on spiritual sex – reclaiming the natural, joyful exchange of energy that gets buried under societal programming. Join us for this candid conversation that will have you questioning your own beliefs and perhaps opening new dialogues with your partner.
What beliefs about sex are you ready to examine? What conversations have you been avoiding? Share your thoughts in the comments, and don't forget to subscribe for part two of this important discussion.
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Good morning everybody.
Welcome back to the SpiritualGuide.
I'm here.
We're here again in studio, DrJenny and myself.
It's our studio.
Good morning, it's our cockpitstudio.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Cockpit studio.
The cockpit.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
In the front of our motorhome, which we're loving it
.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Loving it Having a good time.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
We have a Winnebago Adventurer 37F Gold Crown Series
motorhome.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Class A.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
We enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It is.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Anyway, so hell, we've had a fun journey today.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, but that's not my topic today.
It's actually good afternoon.
Yeah, it is actually goodafternoon.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
We've been having to run around all day because my
computer decided to quit workingand when you're in the process
of developing a whole bunch ofstuff like video for the podcast
and website and the shopifystore and blah and a whole lot
of stuff, right, computer goingout is um not beneficial.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Not beneficial, no nothing about.
It was no it was a good littlecomputer let me refrain.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It did not go out.
I I turned it into an old man.
It it.
It could not function anymore.
It was saying he's too old andhe needs a walker.
I had it too full, the memorywas too full and it won't do
anything.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, it was a tiny little memory anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I took it to the that's what she said and I took
it to the computer guy and hewas like, yeah, no, you're done,
and so new computer.
It was today.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So I got me a good one.
Got me a good one, I ain't gotto worry about it now for a
while.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, you know, we did our research, went to a
couple of different places.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
We did.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Collected our data and then made our decision.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You know what I discovered?
For the same amount of money,you can go to one of these used
computer places that build theirown computers and all that
stuff and actually get a bettercomputer for less money.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
For sure, yeah and it does come with a guarantee,
comes with a warranty, 90-daywarranty right, and I think,
while we were there, one of thethings that came up was
remembering not to judge a bookby its cover yeah, right, yeah,
I agree because you were kind ofanalyzing okay.
Which one do I want wasremembering not to judge a book
by its cover.
(02:51):
Yeah, right, yeah, I agree,Because you were kind of
analyzing okay which one do Iwant?
And you were reading what kindof computer it was.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, but remembering that the inside's been
completely redone.
Yeah, it was completely redoneLike.
The one we got is an IBM LinuxThinkPad and it's like massively
fast now because I had himupgrade to RAM while we were
there, right, and so now it'sgot twice as much.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
RAM, and we didn't do it from a place of oh my gosh,
we don't have enough money tojust go buy a new one.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Right?
No, we went.
We went with the budget, wewent with a budget.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, new one, right?
No, we know, we went, we wentwith the budget, we went with a
budget.
We went and we did look at newverses, refurbished and
collected our information we didand it was uh interesting
decided on a like I we went to.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
We went to one place I'm not going to name off any
names and I looked at a computerand it was769, just for a
desktop, for the tower Right.
And then I go to another placeand I find the exact same
computer, identical name brand,everything is identical for $399
.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
That's just the tower .
Of course I didn't come with akeyboard or any of that.
And I was like, hmm, curious,and it had the high-end, didn't
come with a keyboard or any ofthat, but and I was like, hmm,
curious, and so and it had thehigh end processor in it.
And so we looked around and Ilooked on chat GBT and chat GBT
said there was this computerplace down here at the flea
market that the guy refurbishesand he had like 1200 reviews and
4.91 average.
And so I looked him up and wewent down there and he wasn't
(04:21):
there anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
No, he wasn't.
We're not sure what thatjourney was about.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, and then I looked it up and it said that he
had moved in town and thenrenamed his shop.
Yeah, and it came up with twoand then so.
But then we meet another guyhere and he said no, he wasn't
him.
So I assume it's the other guythat did it before him, and so.
Maybe, but anyway.
(04:47):
So maybe, but anyway so uh andso we got this new computer
that's better than the $759 onethat we.
I priced, yeah, for a third ofwhat.
That price was right.
And so I'm like, wow, and it'sgot the high-end processor and I
mean it doesn't have a terabyteof storage, which who needs a
terabyte of storage?
Nowadays?
Everything's web-based, youhave clouds and you have, you
don't?
I mean, I don't know, maybe youneed a terabyte for something,
if you're a gamer.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
maybe that's above my pay grade.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
But anyway.
So I'm going to set it all upafter this podcast and see how
it goes.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Very excited.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I think the main part of that was realizing that
things happen sometimes.
That things happen sometimesand not understanding how it got
manifested into my reality isnot always as important as
working through that processproperly.
Not understanding, I mean it'slike yeah, my computer went out,
why?
Why did my computer stop?
Why did I bring this into myreality Right?
(05:39):
And sometimes that's not asimportant as making sure that
you do the right thing next.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Like, a lot of people would have got mad.
You know, punch the screen.
That's.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That would have been me 20 years ago, or gotten mad
and said you know F it, I'mgoing down to buy a new one.
They end up with a two-.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
A paperweight in a year.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
A thousand dollar or $2,000 computer that they didn't
necessarily need all the bellsand whistles, versus stopping
and saying, okay, what's thegoal, what's the agenda, what do
we want to spend on it?
We kind of make a game out ofit.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, and like that guy, that one guy, he was like
trying to sell me the best thatthey had on the market At the
store At the store and it was agaming one and it was an open
box special and store for thatthe store.
and it was a gaming one and itwas an open box special and it
was still like 1400 bucks.
The computer that we justbought is equal to it, right?
And I was like, are you kiddingme?
The only thing difference is ithad a terabyte of storage and
(06:34):
this one doesn't have a fullterabyte, it's like 580
something yeah, and it was aquarter of the price yeah, less
than a quarter, but anyway.
So what made me discover?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
is this because it's new or?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
just because it's at a a quarter of the price?
Yeah, less than a quarter,definitely, anyway.
So what made me discover is,just because it's new or just
because it's at a name brandstore don't mean it's the best
thing on the market.
Well, I think the otherdiscovery in that was you were
spending all that time waitingfor the computer to work until
you got on my computer andeverything was so much faster oh
(07:06):
my gosh, I have been like doingdesigns for the store and
putting the books together thatwe're publishing and doing all
this stuff, and we use multipledifferent things like adobe and
canva and um, you know just,there's many things that we use
for designing these things andand I couldn't get my computer
to work.
The other day I think it wasTuesday morning and I got on
(07:27):
Jenny's computer, which is rightthere, which you all can see.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Unless you take it away when you do the video.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And then I was like, wow, because Jenny's computer is
brand new and it's top of theline.
It's got everything.
It's got a terabyte ofstorage's got.
Um, it's got 30, 38 gigabytesof ram, or 32 gigabytes of ram
it's like extremely fast and Ithought these sites that we were
using were like I thought youknow, using ai and generating
(07:57):
pictures and videos and doingthese things was.
I thought it was the softwarethat was slowing everything down
until I got on her computer andit was like damn.
I was like wow, right, I havespent so much time doing this
stuff, and how much time I meanwow.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I mean I got like four things done in a matter of
10 minutes on your computer thatwould have took me all day on
yours online yeah, I think thetakeaway from that is is number
one you don't know what youdon't know right, I didn't know
yeah and so if things are slower, then it's a good idea to look
(08:38):
at all 360 degrees of it agreedand if it's slow because it's a
physical attribute yeah thenit's okay to give yourself
permission to upgrade your toolsagreed to get the agenda done,
(08:58):
because that can take away thejoy yes if it's something, and
and I know for me, that's why Ihave the kind I have because if
I sit down to do something thatI enjoy, which is writing or
creating whatever I'm creating,if my tool is inconvenient or
(09:20):
misbehaving, boom, it takes meright out of that moment of joy,
it brings me right into of thatmoment of joy it brings me
right into that frustrationfrequency right and I don't want
to do it anymore that's whathappened to me this morning.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You got the shower I'm gonna go work on, I'm gonna
go sit down and work on thestuff for the uh store, and I
sit down and the computerwouldn't do crap.
And I was just like, all right,okay, whatever.
And I started to get on yourcomputer and then I was like you
know what if she needs it,because I know you were talking
about doing some things todayand so I was like, well, that
(09:57):
just leaves me sitting heretwiddling my damn thumbs,
because it literally wouldn't doanything.
It wouldn't do nothing.
And so I was like, okay, let megrab the tiddlywinks and go sit
down on the floor and call myfriends over and I'll play
tiddlywinks in the floor.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
The cats won't even play with you because their nap
time is gone.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Right, they were gone .
Yeah, they weren't even around.
But the but, the whole point ofit was for me was like okay, I
was at first frustrated and Iwent into that.
Why is this?
Why did?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I put this in my reality yeah, and then.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
And then I realized you know, there's not a there
who cares, because knows a lotmore than I do right and so
there's a reason for it.
There's a reason why ithappened.
Who knows, it could be down theroad, maybe this computer, who
knows?
Right and and it's not asimportant for me to realize that
, hey, you know I didn't reallycreate this, and but there's a
(10:50):
reason that spirit saying okay,it's time for you to do
something different with this.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, just to clarify , you did create it, but yes the
knowing why you created it.
If it's not blatantly obviousright then, then you either
don't need to know it right now,it was just used to get you
motivated to go in the directionof the direction that you were
(11:19):
supposed to go, or you've gotsome sort of belief to look at.
I didn't?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Did you hear her?
She said that I created it.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, you did.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
She did that.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, you created that in your reality, but it's a good
example of that's what itsounded like in my head.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
This make clear you created it.
What?
The hell, you say but to me itwas like almost spirit reaching
the.
I could picture a spiritreaching their hand out and
saying look, come on, I got you,let's go right, I created it
just to get you going in adifferent direction yeah, and
something, something had tochange and so that's right, and
(12:04):
I was probably because I've beentrying to get all this stuff
done, I feel like it's takingforever.
Yeah, now I know why.
Right, because it was takingforever.
Yeah, like I mean that one dayI got like three or four things
done and I was like that's itRight.
Normally I would have got, Iwould have completed everything,
(12:28):
yeah.
And then when I was trying todo the store and get that
developed and and up and runningand set up, wow, what a
difference that was.
What a difference.
That is because, like the speed, cause I was waiting most of
the time for images and for foruh, products to pop up, and I
would, I would click on aproduct and it would be you see
the little spinning thing 20minutes later and then suddenly
(12:56):
it pops up.
And then when you go to changeanything and save it, sometimes
it wouldn't even save.
It would just like spin itselfout until I had to do twice.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But I'm excited to set my new pewter up.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, definitely, I'm excited for you, anyway.
So what's the topic today?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, I thought the topic well okay.
So this is a topic that comesup in our reality a lot and it
comes up in a lot of people'sreality and I think we really
need to talk about it okay iswhen you're in a committed,
committed relationship withsomebody is that what we're
calling it now?
we're married.
(13:40):
Sorry, you can't get rid of methat easy and I have a piece of
paper on the wall.
It wasn't on the wall, but it'ssomewhere.
But you know we come withbaggage and we talked about this
on our podcast before.
We spilled it all out there.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
We bring baggage, yeah they all do.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
But if they don't recognize that they're baggage
and they think they're perfect,then they.
But if they don't recognizethat they're ragged and they
think they're perfect, thenbuyer beware.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Because we all have patterns, programs and beliefs
that aren't serving us anymorethat we have a tendency to hang
on to.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And one topic that comes up a lot and it came up
when I was doing the counselingwith a couple back in the Bay
Area and I know it's come upwith you and that is
expectations on one topic andthat is sex.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Ooh, yeah, it is a very entailed deep subject.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, and so you know , my topic of the day is
spiritual sex.
Let's be real about it.
It's time to be real about sexand what sex is.
Yeah, you know, I was raised acouple of ways and I was taught
a couple of ways.
I was raised you know that,like my parents, they've been
together over 60 years.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Can we say sex on the radio?
Yeah, you can?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You can, just can't put it in the description and
we're not on the radio.
By the way, it's called freedomof speech, love.
We can say anything we want todo on the air.
We just can't put it in thedescription, because typing it
is not speaking it.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
So what do you have to do?
Like put a character.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, put a little character in there between the S
and the X.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Oh, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
They can't take our freedom of speech away.
Oh, okay, so when you go into arelationship and you have the
baggage, people come into thatthe sexual side, like I would
like I was saying.
I was raised with taughtbeliefs and then later on
learned beliefs yeah um, like myparents, you know, I know my
mom has never been with anotheranother man ever, just my dad,
(15:42):
and they've been together over60 years, um yeah, you don't
really look like everybody else,so that's questionable I know
right, I'm kidding.
I wondered that myself.
Actually, I wondered if Iwouldn't related to my uncle
gary.
Yeah, no, I'm kidding, I don'tknow anyway.
Uh, so maybe the milkman, andremember that was a joke back in
the day.
You must be the milkman, andremember that was a joke back in
(16:03):
the day.
You must be the milkman's kid,right?
And you know, my friend growingup used to say that too.
You don't look nothing likeyour parents or your brother.
Why are you adopted?
I don't know how many times.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I got it, I got it.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I'm like, I don't know, maybe, and I've always
thought so much different tothem, who knows.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
We digress.
Yeah, I was kidding.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Digress, but and uh, then, you know, as we age and we
grow older, like especially in,in and I I'm going to talk for
the boys and the men as we, youknow, we grow up with three
things that we get taught A isthe size of of your member makes
a big difference.
And b, the more you use it, thebetter you are okay that's how
(16:49):
we were taught back in my day.
Now it may have changed a littlebit now.
And then the third thing is ifyou don't use it, it'll fall off
.
That used to be a joke.
Seriously, it was a joke.
Back in day I heard that fromeverybody in my family.
I snorted and you know.
And then it used to be a bigdeal to masturbate.
(17:11):
If you masturbate you're bad.
Oh my God, you're going to gogreen herring upon your hand and
they would do that just to seeif you were masturbating,
because you would go no, I'm not.
I mean what?
But sex comes with all sorts ofdifferent negative topics
behind it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, and the reality of sex is it's very easily
defined, which is much differentthan it was 100 years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I know, you know sex is really
used for two things pleasure andprocreation.
Yeah, and that's the onlybenefit of it.
Now we use it Now, society usesit in all different ways, and
this is where all the confusioncomes in.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
We use it to sell things.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
They use sexuality to sell things, to pronoun things
to, which is look, I'm nottalking about negative, about
pronouns at all.
I don't care what you are, aslong as you're spiritual and
true and honest and have moralsand ethics, I don't care.
Yeah, um, I don't care.
You know we use, they use sex toum, manipulate realities, gets
(18:15):
used yeah and and and, so itconfuses things for control they
use sex for control in a lot ofways and it has confused a lot
of things along the way, andwhen we we don't look at old
beliefs, patterns and programsand what's not serving us and
what is serving us, it can causesome ruckus in your life.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, yeah, like for me from the female perspective.
We were taught that it's kindof from the June Cleaver era, I
suppose, because for me a lot ofmy stuff came from my
grandparents from that era.
The belief for the female wasthat it's their job to keep
(19:02):
their man happy.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
It's a what it's a duty.
It's a duty, it's an assignment.
It's a checklist.
Yeah, it's a chore.
It's a what Sexually?
It's a duty, it's a duty, it'san assignment.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
It's a checklist.
Yeah, it's a chore, it's achore list.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Clean the house, get the kids to school, pack their
lunches, send them off to workin the morning with his lunch so
he can come home in the eveningfor a hot cooked meal on the
bed.
Give the kids a bath, feed thekids a bath, do the homework
with the kids, put the kids tobed and serve your husband.
Sex, sex.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Even if it's just 30 seconds.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Two pump chump.
That's another thing that wewere taught as men is if you
can't go a long time and thenyou're useless and nobody enjoys
it, but you yeah.
That used to be my joke.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Satisfy myself was all I worried about.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
The other thing that females are taught when you get
older, and not necessarily froma parental standpoint, but from
friends.
You get taught that you can usesex as a form of manipulation
towards the male culture.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And so and their emails are out there and they
use it to manipulate situations.
Listen, if that didn't happen,directions.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh yeah, if that didn't happen, there wouldn't be
websites out there like sugarbaby.
Yeah, you know we saw that showthat night on that girl, that
whatever show that we werewatching, where that girl was
like 22 and she was seeing a 70year old guy and but not having
sex.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But he was paying her five thousand dollars a month
and paying her rent and give hera car.
Come on you know, that's just.
And so she was using sex tomanipulate this yeah, yep, of
course, and 100 and so it causescan cause some ruckus in your
world.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Sex is a very entailed topic it can definitely
cause some uh confusion, right,especially Especially when you
go into a committed relationshipand you find yourself wanting
to free up your hard drive andthere's a joke in that somewhere
(21:19):
.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Let me free up my hard drive.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
No, I mean your other hard drive, know this one oh
okay, I thought you meant lowerthe zipper anyway no, when you
get to a place where you arelooking for just authenticity
and you don't like.
For me, I kept and even to thisday it keeps kind of trying to
(21:51):
pop up and I still struggle withit of being the wifely duty and
here's the rest of that comma.
If you don't take care of yourman at home, men always want sex
.
So if you don't take care ofhim at home, he is going to find
it somewhere, and it's not bymeans of his own self, is what
(22:15):
we're taught.
We're taught that there's otherfemales out there that will
snag him out from underneath youand tend to his business if you
don't right, no right.
So it's a fear-based templatethat we do, and so a lot of
times.
What happens then for thefemale is it takes away the
(22:37):
ability to enjoy it and it takesaway the ability to really tune
into that individual on, um,like an energetic connection
type place, or even justallowing sex to feel good in
your own body and knowing whatthat feels like in your physical
body because you're so focusedon it being about him and
(23:01):
getting the chore done that.
It causes you to look at it ina much different way.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, and that's in, in, in from coming from the man
side of that.
When it becomes well, it wouldput yourself in the man's shoes.
You're walking into thescenario and every single day
the same thing happens.
Every third day sex is involvedor whatever.
It is Cause people get in theseweird routines and they do
weird things.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
But that's why?
Because if the female is beingtaught that we have to meet this
agenda of providing sex for themale so we can perform our
wifely duty.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
That way he won't go.
We are keeping up.
Keep his belly full and hisballs drained.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Right, my God, that sounds awful.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
That's what I've heard.
Old ladies tell that to theirdaughters.
I've heard that before.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, exactly.
And so we have in our mind,even on a subconscious level, a
time clock going yeah.
And if it's been so long, whatI'm working on and I'll talk
about me, what I am having towork on is coming out of that
(24:16):
pattern and not allowing thistime clock, which I don't even
know what the time frequency isOne day, one week, like I can't
even tell you.
But there's a certain point inthat where my nervous system
throws up red flags and says, ohmy God, I know it's been a
(24:41):
minute, I gotta go into wifelyduty mode and make sure that his
needs are met and I kind of gointo this panic mode state where
I've got to like tone it backdown, like and god forbid.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
You're the guy in that scenario, because when,
when that kind of thoughthappens with your wife, if
you're focused on doing otherthings, you are suddenly doing
bad things yeah, for sure, forsure.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
It causes monkey mind issues.
It does 100%.
And you know, back in the dayit was much worse than it is now
, I feel like, because then itwould be everything was a red
flag.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Oh, my God, you know what he went to the store to
pick up a loaf of bread.
I know I've gone with him andit takes 10 minutes and it's
been 13.
Ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
That means he's got time to stop by, see a girl,
kiss her, get back in the car,even taken into consideration
Red lights, green lights- theline at the checkout, the
logical logistics of actuallygetting there, there being a
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long line.
You know, that does come up alot Like when I was doing the
couples counseling back in thebay with that couple with their
names and he brought up aboutcheating and she, because she
did 15 years ago and I said okay, so she cheated 15 years ago
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but not, not on him.
Not on.
That's where I would go next.
You spoiled it.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I'm sorry, spoiler alert.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
And I said so.
She cheated on you 15 years ago.
No, no, no, it wasn't with me.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
So you're convicting her?
Where's your noise?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
What.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I feel like you need a noise for that.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Like push one of those buttons, oh Like.
So you're worried constantlyabout this woman cheating
Because she cheated 15 years agoand, by the way, she's only 33.
16 years ago, whatever, she waslike 17.
She cheated on her boyfriendand she told him the story
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because she was trying to havefull disclosure.
Never cheated on him, butbecause of that scenario that
she told him in full disclosure,he has now controlled every bit
of her life for over 14 years,like tracing her on the phone
(27:33):
and she's letting him.
If it's 30 or 45 minuteswithout a call, he's you know on
this phone and I'm just likebro, you're psychotic in this
scenario but the weird thingabout it to me is that why?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
why is she letting him do that?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
well, you know, that's where I got to that a
little later on, but the thething that I wanted to bring the
attention of that is he wasallowing sex and the thought of
sex and the thought of herhaving sex with somebody else
totally, control totally controlhis, his conscious mind yeah,
like everything he did was basedaround.
When she got off, when you know, it was all like this whole day
(28:07):
he did was more worried aboutwhat she was doing other than
accomplishing his goals in life.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Almost like husband stalker.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, it was an odd situation.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, but it happens.
I mean it's out there.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And it took me 60 days to get him to actually stop
and say maybe I am and I'm likeMaybe this is not a logical
behavior.
Maybe this is not healthyBecause he was like having hell,
heart problems and all sorts ofcrap at like 30.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Well, no wonder.
Yeah, you're creating a realityof a broken heart.
And so why are you having heartproblems, right?
Because you think she's goingto do something to you.
Yeah, and so the the wholescenario for me in sex in the
taught because he was taughtthat way, and then I find out
later that he was exposed tomultiple times of his dad
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cheating on his mother.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Right, I was going to say if you come out of the gate
as a child having kind of awonky perspective or definition
that you're taught it's a roughride.
I mean that's basically whathappened with me and my
situation.
I came out of the gate goinginto the pre-adult age very
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confused about what arelationship is supposed to be
because, unlike you, my parentalsituation was very, very
different.
My parents divorced the firsttime whenever I was seven-ish.
Then they got back together,remarried and then divorced.
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They did that.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
And then married somebody else and were still
going back to each other to havesex.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, they remarried each other several times before
they did the final.
Like that's it.
And then what happened is theywere having sex with each other
in a hidden format and we camehome and caught them.
Wah, wah, wah.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Did you say caught them?
Yes, as in like eyeball toeyeball.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yes.
Reverse cowgirl looking at youcoming in the front door yes.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Holy cow.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yes mind, warping, full stroke caught them, but the
you said full stroke.
The queer place about it, thehard to digest place about it,
was they were both.
My mother was actuallyremarried, yeah, and my father
was dating an individual.
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So they were in relationships,committed relationships.
So I guess you know what theysay tell me you need therapy
without telling me you needtherapy right yeah, yeah,
totally so I went into adulthoodnot really even knowing what
that is truly supposed to beright, screwed up.
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I just knew going into it thatI didn't want that.
Yeah, it didn't feel right,maybe, or something.
There was something about thatthat I didn't want.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, understood.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I wanted it to look differently.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I had some screwed up views about sex as I aged.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
But I also didn't want to.
I'm a big contender of the.
I don't want to box someone inand take away their freedom to
move about their journey as theysee fit with these weird
staunch dumbass.
(31:37):
Societally taught nonsensicalthings, and so I wanted someone
that would, I guess, workthrough even the sex or the
relationship or the marriage.
I can give that person thefreedom to incorporate other
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beings, we just have to talkabout it.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Okay, so in other words, you're saying that you
were willing to be open-mindedabout things.
Well, I mean, even now you andI have talked about it.
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I'm open to other ideas but, I, want to have a
full disclosure conversationfirst.
Yeah, totally About it.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
And the reality of that subject for a lot of people
is very faux pas.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Because like, oh my God, you know because listen.
When men were cavemen.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
They had several partners.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
They had several partners, and there are still
religions at this day that haveseven or eight wives.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
But the thing is, is our religions, our Western
religion has taught people sexis not natural.
And because sex is a naturalinstinct in all humans men,
women, whatever, whatever yourgender is, it doesn't matter,
it's a natural instinct to do.
Cats do it, dogs do it and allthe animals do it.
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We're all an animal, we arewarm-blooded critter, critters
and that's what we do.
You know when are procreating?
When you're in that stage.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
And there comes a point in your life where you
quit procreating, and so it'sabout pleasure.
And sometimes, when you areprocreating, it's just about
pleasure.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
And come into the understanding of the full
beliefs, Like for me, for us, askids I was, you know we were
taught it was a conquering thing.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
For the guy.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
For the guy.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
For the male species.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Oh my God, you see that girl over there.
Bro, I'm taking that one hometonight.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That's my trophy for the evening.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Right, it became about conquering.
And then it becomes aboutespecially if you have that void
inside, like I did.
You know which?
If you read in my book, theunlock that I'm about to release
, you'll know that I searchedfor a very long time for this
void that I had.
Yeah, and it caused me to dosome stupid things.
You know sex, drugs, rock androll, whatever you know the old
football stuff.
I did some crazy things, butsex to me was always more about
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the conquering than it was thepleasure.
And it wasn't until I met youthat I could take that off my
plate, because she made itcompletely open to cheat.
And so you know what it's kindof like telling a kid that you
can have all the ding-dongs youwant and you put 50 boxes of
ding-dongs in the closet, abouta box or two in.
They're kind of done eatingding-dongs.
And so it took that conqueringmindset away and that's okay for
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me.
It is for the first time in mylife I'm pretty peaceful when it
comes to sex inside of me.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, and it doesn't have to be a performance-based
thing, right, you know, for me Iam looking for a more of an
authentic energetic exchange ofinteraction and energy.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Right, I agree.
Yeah, it's not about More of anatural flow and that's not
about I smell something.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Right, and on the female side, it's it.
It wasn't about conqueringRight.
Well, now I say that I'll tellyou like in high school it could
have been.
It could have been aboutconquering you know, Like, if
you're.
Well, I knew women thatconquered If you sleep with the
captain of the football team forthe female.
You and you're not part of thecheer team or in that loop.
(35:24):
Yeah, it is definitely.
It's like oh, I can put thatone on my belt even as a female.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Oh yeah, Guess who I slept with.
Yeah, Captain of the football.
Oh yeah, yeah look at me.
Yeah, I know a lot of womenthat did that and used it to
conquer things.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Well, and even in their adult life yeah, still to
this day.
I know women that have done itto conquer things.
Well, yeah, being able to notchtheir belt with famous people,
or famous sports people, or Iremember when I became a
restaurant owner the uh sexy onein the group, you know group of
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women together.
They go to the bar and play,and so why is that?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
answer that question.
What question?
Why is it when a group of womentogether that go to the bar and
play.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
So why is that Answer that question?
What question?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Why is it?
When a group of women go to thebar, there's normally three of
them Right, there's a goodlooking one, there's the chubby
one and then there's the onethat's never had sex before.
That is the designated driver.
Why do women do that?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
why do those three come together?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, why, why?
Why is it always that it's likeit's that role?
I've been asked this questionby guys before.
That's why I'm asking.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I think it.
I think that particularscenario that you're putting
forth is more of a cause in theguy's world it's called the
wingman thing.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
A wingman yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, for girls.
We don't really talk about it.
It's not like we go around andsay, okay, we're looking for the
fat girl in our group and youlook like you might be kind of
fun.
Do you want to come be the fatgirl in our group?
Like we don't do that.
Yeah, and no offense we're notbeing judgmental, by the way, as
you can tell, and you look likethe nerdy.
(37:04):
I've never had sex person inthe group, so I'm looking for
somebody to carry that.
I think what happens is is thatyou've got that confident, good
looking female and if she's notaltogether healthy, what
happens is she'll unconsciouslyAttract those she views as
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weaker or lower Right.
Because it's an energeticexchange and the relationships
get created this way.
So let me take you to a rabbithole place right quick.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I really thought we were going to get through this
one and talk about the rabbithole, but that's okay, no, never
Listen.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I tell you at the very beginning pack your carrot
sandwiches.
You never know when you'regoing down a rabbit hole.
So it's a subconscious thingthat happens in the female world
.
We don't go to each other andsay, hey, can you be my wingman
tonight?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
It doesn't work like that.
We don't even talk about it, itjust kind of happens.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
You know me and my buddies just be like wingman for
life.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, no, we don't.
So what happens is society hasbuilt the image of the perfect
woman.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
They're a certain body build, they have a certain
features about them.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
And thank God they've changed that by Uh-huh Agreed.
Each female will perceivethemselves in a certain way, and
it never matches that image.
Right.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
So what it does is it whittles away at their
self-worth their confidence,their body image and that holds
an energetic frequency yeah, andthat holds an energetic
frequency yeah.
So they will naturally be drawnto those people females that
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align with how they seethemselves six foot and you know
, 19 pounds model materialbecause they're 22 pounds, yeah,
they can see themselves asheavy.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
And they don't want somebody that's 19 pounds
hanging around with them.
Understood so they becomefriends with someone that's 25
pounds.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
The fat girl right, it's an ego, it's not, it's not
on a conscious level.
No, I go out and consciously uh, what do you call it when you?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
right, and so I hope everybody understands that we're
not judging people by theirsize.
We're just giving you scenariosbased on how it?
Questions that we've had ascoaches and counselors and have
what we have witnessed over theyears and what I.
What I meant earlier by sayingyou know the mixture of the
three is because that scenarioactually happens to the state a
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lot still it does and I gotasked here right before we left
the bay area to come over here.
But why does that always happen?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
right, and even the, the girl that's the virgin and
is the smart one, that still isan energetic, it's an energetic
thing.
They bring that one in becausethe pretty girl is usually the
dingy blonde or the ding dongthat doesn't have a brain.
(40:49):
The pretty- ones don't have thebrain, so they start to buy
into that concept that societyhas shoved in our face.
And quick note and, if you, aresmart, you usually dumb it down
because we're taught that guysdon't want us to be smarter than
them, because it's not anattractive feature.
(41:10):
Okay that's the caveat there,yeah we're taught that if we're
too smart, then guys won't wantus around yeah, you were taught.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I think that's up the kink.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Macho entity.
Persona of the man.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
And I know you like to think that it's changed.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Well, I think a lot of that has changed A lot of
things.
Like I just read that email Igot the other day on the because
, you know, ever since I did theresearch for the Merck Centers,
I get these emails from theuniversity studies and stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
And from 91 to 2000, the average number of high
school graduates,percentage-wise, that were
graduating as a virgin was lessthan 20%.
Okay 20 to 2010,.
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It was now it had moved up toalmost 30%.
And they're saying now from2010 to 2020, that is up in
almost 50% range.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Good, yeah, and so progress there, but the crazy
part about this thing Well, it'snot because we want them to be
virgins, it's because thefemales have taken it off their
chore list well, that's what I'mgonna have sex now if and when
I want to right not because Ithink that I have to have sex
with you to make you love me orto make you want to hang on to
(42:41):
me it's on a tour right in arelationship with me or be
married to me, because I'mwilling to have sex with you on
the frequency that you want meto have.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Frequency meaning right once a day, twice a day,
once a week, three times a week,whatever that number is, but
the caveat of that study that Iwas reading the number of men
has went down and number ofwomen has came up that aren't
virgins.
So the men are keeping theirvirginity more and women are
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keeping their virginity less,but the overall number has went
up.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I see.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
When it comes to comparing the percentages, and
so, and that's actually a verygood thing, I think, because,
just like you said, now we're ina different mindset.
We're in a different mindsetthat you will have sex when you
want to have sex, and it's not achore, it's not something you
got to do to make somebody loveyou.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
And it is not.
It is not there to manipulateRight.
It is not there to manipulateRight.
It is there to procreate orpleasure.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah.
And it is okay if you're anadult, it's okay either way,
right, right.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
It's okay to have sex .
It's okay not to have sex.
It's okay to be balanced Right.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I think another topic is that we as a society need to
get more comfortable talkingabout this three-letter word
that's so taboo?
Yeah, it is a topic kind oflike finances.
It's a hard topic for a lot ofpeople to talk about, especially
with their partner.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
It wasn't for me.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Which is it's got some irony wrapped in it,
because this person your partnerhas been in places that are
very vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
But yet you can't open your mouth and talk about
them.
Yeah, that seems a littlescrewy to me.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
But I get it.
It can cause, you know, it cancause arguments, it can cause
conflict, especially if theother person's not healthy and
whole about it.
It can put everybody in adefensive place very quickly
yeah.
Especially if in the man'sbubble there's what did you
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mention, If there's like a size,confidence issue yeah,
confidence issue yeah.
Or if there's a.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
If you're not big enough, they don't want you
anyway.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Right, if there's some of those baggages.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Not once did they ever teach me that the average
size of the American male isfive and a half inches.
And you know what they teach onthe female side, because I have
almost been average for atleast 20 years, like we've been
reading the ruler wrong fordecades.
This is 12 inches.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Because they've been teaching us that five and a half
inches is like this the menhave.
And listen, ladies, we havewoken up and we know that five
and a half is really this size.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Just kidding.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
No, you know, and that's really what this whole
thing is about.
It's about openness to talkingabout it in any way without
offending anybody.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Well, now hold on a second, being able to openly,
freely talk about it and notworry about offending right
because if someone gets offendedin the conversation, it's the
person who's getting offendedthat has the problem.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Like in mine and your situation.
If I'm talking openly andfreely and you get offended,
it's you that needs to look atthe baggage, not me.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Now, let me throw a little disclaimer out there.
That does not count at work.
Throw a little disclaimer outthere.
That does not count at work.
If you have a job and you openit, you have to be yeah, let's
not.
Let's not do that at work,because it can be an hr issue
for you what talking about sex?
Yeah yeah, I, I definitelywouldn't talk about sex at work
yeah, and just remember that ifyou overhear a sexual
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conversation at work, it is anHR issue, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
It is.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
But if it doesn't really offend, you don't make
nothing of it, for no reason.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I mean, if it's not your bubble, it's not your
freaking business.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Stay in your bubble, man.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Like get out of everybody's freaking bubble.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
That's another thing that the world would be much
better off if people just stayedto their own freaking bubble.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
You know, and the sex topic.
I think that we'll continue on.
We'll do a part two for sex,because you know, spiritual sex,
there's so much to sex.
There's beliefs behind it, likewe're just we're opening up in
some now.
But the main part about sex isbeing able to talk about it.
Talk about sex, what, everyaspect of it, with your partner,
with your kids, you know,because it's so important to
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teach them the right things inlife, which the conversation
that I never got.
I never got that as a when Iwas growing up no, yeah, I
didn't either.
I learned about sex from myfriends at school, who learned
about that, about sex from godknows where I, I mean, I learned
it from sneaking into my dad'slocker and reading, reading
(47:51):
playboy magazine and and, uh,watching videos that were the
vhs tapes right, but if you didthat as a girl, you were like
the freaky tease that was yeahlike it wasn't okay for girls to
do that same thing in our era.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
It was very like eh.
You're not very ladylike.
You're a slut, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
You watch?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
what you read, what?
Oh my God, you're such a tease.
You're such a slut.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
It was not okay.
They used to call you somethingMattress, what they used to
call me.
Girls like that.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
It wasn't like one word, it was like a phrase.
You carry your mattress on yourback.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Or mattress, something I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Mattress Maggie.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
But the whole purpose behind all this is getting this
started and open is, first ofall, talk about the beliefs and
be able to openly talk about sex, yeah, with your mate, with
your kids, with whoever Rightyou know, because sex is sex, it
is what it is.
Man, right, we all do it, justlike masturbation, we all do it.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, if anybody tells you they don't masturbate,
they're liars.
There's definitely a song aboutthat and I think, coming into
the relationship that and Ithink coming into the
relationship that needs to bepart of the negotiation.
Agreed Like where are you inyour sex section of your life,
pie?
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
What do you want that to look like?
Where are you at, so that youcan decide if you're on the same
level with each other?
I agree, because when you don'thave that conversation and
you're not on the same level, itcauses a point of contention, a
possible point of contention.
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I agree, and then it just fullystarts to feed into the.
You're not satisfying my needs.
That's what the man says.
And then the female's like, ohmy God, I'm not satisfying his
needs.
He's what the man says.
And then the female's like, ohmy God, I'm not satisfying his
needs, he's going to dump me,he's going to drop me, and it
further feeds into that.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Well, and the side of that too is you know how many
times we have we men, when weget in having sex and the woman
faked it, and so we thought wedid it right.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Right faked it, and so we thought we did it right,
right, exactly because that'sanother big one.
If any man says they can tell ifyou're faking it, they're lying
that's right, because then,especially if you're good at
faking it it gives them falsedata it does, and they then
think that what they did worked,and so they're going to go back
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and try that again, becausethey want to provide pleasure
for you and them.
And if it didn't work and youfake it.
You're just giving them falsedata and you're going to have to
relive that over and over.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
I think we should really really talk about this
topic on a couple of podcastsand get into it deep over and
over.
I think we should really reallytalk about this topic on a
couple of podcasts and over andover again.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
And did I say over again?
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, you did, yeah, you said it like three times.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
So it's a must.
You have to tell him.
As a female, you have to beable to tell him yeah, you know
what I love you so much, butwhatever you're doing, then
you're working.
It's not really working for me.
Can we try something different?
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Or if you're not able to have that type of
conversation, create a word,create a like what's up Hand
signal.
Like you know, there's gotta besome indication of being able
to say right, I don't reallycare for that.
Can we try something different,correct?
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Or on the other side of that,if he is doing something that
you like, wasabi, that's, that's.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
The safe word is wasabi.
I was just playing.
If it don't feel good, you gowasabi.
If you really liked it, you cansay wasabi.
But hey, we've got to closethis up.
We're getting long here, solisten, pay attention, we will.
We will bring up this topicagain because this can be, this
(52:06):
could be a long series.
You know spiritual sex and thetopic because I think it's an
important thing in today's worldto really bring up, because
it's not on the forefrontanymore.
You don't hear a lot of peopletalking about it.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
No.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
And you definitely don't hear parents talking to
kids.
Now they're teaching it inschool, and if I was you, I
wouldn't want my kids to learnabout sex from a perfect
stranger.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Well, I mean right, but you can't.
I mean choose your battles.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah, I agree, anyway .
So, hey guys, we do have theshop will be open, I promise you
.
I have a new pewter now so Iwill get it up and running.
That is the salty tarot dot, myShopify dot com.
And we got Jenny has made someOracle cards and some tarot
cards that are going to be onthat shop, along with our merch
(52:58):
from our from the spiritualgrind merch, and our Web site,
www, that the Merck centers dotorg, that's MERCemerccentersorg,
that's M-E-R-C-C-E-N-T-E-R-Sorg.
We are on all of the channels.
Now we're going to startputting out video.
I'm going to try to get a videoposted this week, at least one
(53:19):
or two.
And then, of course, we haveJenny's new book out, scripted
from Within.
It is available on Amazon andKDP.
And then my book is out as well, um sales energy method.
If you're in the sales business, it will teach you a whole
different way to look at salesand how to handle it differently
.
It too is on Amazon and KDP.
And then pay attention, we havethe granny grandma's coming out
(53:42):
.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
We have the my new book called unlocked the granny
grandma's coming out.
Yeah, we have the my new bookcalled unlocked.
It's about unlocking yourinternal potential and it's got
my story in it, so my story ismight be surprising to you yeah,
yeah, so yeah, lots of thingsin the works and pay attention,
because, man, I think the mostexciting thing for me this is
going to be lots of fun.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
You mean, aside from the computer?
The app?
Yeah, we have an app indevelopment I'm not ready to
talk about that yet.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
But y'all pay attention.
We'll give you more on that inthe future.
Don't forget to like, followand share, and all this is going
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Speaker 2 (54:41):
It's a trending topic .
If there's a topic that youwant to discuss or a question
that you have that you want todive deep into and go down the
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Speaker 1 (54:52):
For yous, I said that like a For yous that don't know
dog.
I said that like I was from aNew York gang or something the
views, something the views.
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If you're on your phone, youcan actually hold down the
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For sure.
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Hey, y'all have an awesome day.
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We'll see you next time.
Good morning everybody.
Welcome back to the SpiritualGuide.
I'm here.
We're here again in studio, DrJenny and myself.
It's our studio.
Good morning, it's our cockpitstudio.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Cockpit studio.
The cockpit.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
In the front of our motorhome, which we're loving it
.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Loving it Having a good time.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
We have a Winnebago Adventurer 37F Gold Crown Series
motorhome.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Class A.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
We enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It is.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Anyway, so hell, we've had a fun journey today.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, but that's not my topic today.
It's actually good afternoon.
Yeah, it is actually goodafternoon.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
We've been having to run around all day because my
computer decided to quit workingand when you're in the process
of developing a whole bunch ofstuff like video for the podcast
and website and the shopifystore and blah and a whole lot
of stuff, right, computer goingout is um not beneficial.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Not beneficial, no nothing about.
It was no it was a good littlecomputer let me refrain.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It did not go out.
I I turned it into an old man.
It it.
It could not function anymore.
It was saying he's too old andhe needs a walker.
I had it too full, the memorywas too full and it won't do
anything.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, it was a tiny little memory anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I took it to the that's what she said and I took
it to the computer guy and hewas like, yeah, no, you're done,
and so new computer.
It was today.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
So I got me a good one.
Got me a good one, I ain't gotto worry about it now for a
while.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, you know, we did our research, went to a
couple of different places.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
We did.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Collected our data and then made our decision.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
You know what I discovered?
For the same amount of money,you can go to one of these used
computer places that build theirown computers and all that
stuff and actually get a bettercomputer for less money.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
For sure, yeah and it does come with a guarantee,
comes with a warranty, 90-daywarranty right, and I think,
while we were there, one of thethings that came up was
remembering not to judge a bookby its cover yeah, right, yeah,
I agree because you were kind ofanalyzing okay.
Which one do I want wasremembering not to judge a book
by its cover.
(02:51):
Yeah, right, yeah, I agree,Because you were kind of
analyzing okay which one do Iwant?
And you were reading what kindof computer it was.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah, but remembering that the inside's been
completely redone.
Yeah, it was completely redoneLike.
The one we got is an IBM LinuxThinkPad and it's like massively
fast now because I had himupgrade to RAM while we were
there, right, and so now it'sgot twice as much.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
RAM, and we didn't do it from a place of oh my gosh,
we don't have enough money tojust go buy a new one.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Right?
No, we went.
We went with the budget, wewent with a budget.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, new one, right?
No, we know, we went, we wentwith the budget, we went with a
budget.
We went and we did look at newverses, refurbished and
collected our information we didand it was uh interesting
decided on a like I we went to.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
We went to one place I'm not going to name off any
names and I looked at a computerand it was769, just for a
desktop, for the tower Right.
And then I go to another placeand I find the exact same
computer, identical name brand,everything is identical for $399
.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
That's just the tower .
Of course I didn't come with akeyboard or any of that.
And I was like, hmm, curious,and it had the high-end, didn't
come with a keyboard or any ofthat, but and I was like, hmm,
curious, and so and it had thehigh end processor in it.
And so we looked around and Ilooked on chat GBT and chat GBT
said there was this computerplace down here at the flea
market that the guy refurbishesand he had like 1200 reviews and
4.91 average.
And so I looked him up and wewent down there and he wasn't
(04:21):
there anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
No, he wasn't.
We're not sure what thatjourney was about.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, and then I looked it up and it said that he
had moved in town and thenrenamed his shop.
Yeah, and it came up with twoand then so.
But then we meet another guyhere and he said no, he wasn't
him.
So I assume it's the other guythat did it before him, and so.
Maybe, but anyway.
(04:47):
So maybe, but anyway so uh andso we got this new computer
that's better than the $759 onethat we.
I priced, yeah, for a third ofwhat.
That price was right.
And so I'm like, wow, and it'sgot the high-end processor and I
mean it doesn't have a terabyteof storage, which who needs a
terabyte of storage?
Nowadays?
Everything's web-based, youhave clouds and you have, you
don't?
I mean, I don't know, maybe youneed a terabyte for something,
if you're a gamer.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
maybe that's above my pay grade.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
But anyway.
So I'm going to set it all upafter this podcast and see how
it goes.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Very excited.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I think the main part of that was realizing that
things happen sometimes.
That things happen sometimesand not understanding how it got
manifested into my reality isnot always as important as
working through that processproperly.
Not understanding, I mean it'slike yeah, my computer went out,
why?
Why did my computer stop?
Why did I bring this into myreality Right?
(05:39):
And sometimes that's not asimportant as making sure that
you do the right thing next.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Like, a lot of people would have got mad.
You know, punch the screen.
That's.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That would have been me 20 years ago, or gotten mad
and said you know F it, I'mgoing down to buy a new one.
They end up with a two-.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
A paperweight in a year.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
A thousand dollar or $2,000 computer that they didn't
necessarily need all the bellsand whistles, versus stopping
and saying, okay, what's thegoal, what's the agenda, what do
we want to spend on it?
We kind of make a game out ofit.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, and like that guy, that one guy, he was like
trying to sell me the best thatthey had on the market At the
store At the store and it was agaming one and it was an open
box special and store for thatthe store.
and it was a gaming one and itwas an open box special and it
was still like 1400 bucks.
The computer that we justbought is equal to it, right?
And I was like, are you kiddingme?
The only thing difference is ithad a terabyte of storage and
(06:34):
this one doesn't have a fullterabyte, it's like 580
something yeah, and it was aquarter of the price yeah, less
than a quarter, but anyway.
So what made me discover?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
is this because it's new or?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
just because it's at a a quarter of the price?
Yeah, less than a quarter,definitely, anyway.
So what made me discover is,just because it's new or just
because it's at a name brandstore don't mean it's the best
thing on the market.
Well, I think the otherdiscovery in that was you were
spending all that time waitingfor the computer to work until
you got on my computer andeverything was so much faster oh
(07:06):
my gosh, I have been like doingdesigns for the store and
putting the books together thatwe're publishing and doing all
this stuff, and we use multipledifferent things like adobe and
canva and um, you know just,there's many things that we use
for designing these things andand I couldn't get my computer
to work.
The other day I think it wasTuesday morning and I got on
(07:27):
Jenny's computer, which is rightthere, which you all can see.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Unless you take it away when you do the video.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And then I was like, wow, because Jenny's computer is
brand new and it's top of theline.
It's got everything.
It's got a terabyte ofstorage's got.
Um, it's got 30, 38 gigabytesof ram, or 32 gigabytes of ram
it's like extremely fast and Ithought these sites that we were
using were like I thought youknow, using ai and generating
(07:57):
pictures and videos and doingthese things was.
I thought it was the softwarethat was slowing everything down
until I got on her computer andit was like damn.
I was like wow, right, I havespent so much time doing this
stuff, and how much time I meanwow.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I mean I got like four things done in a matter of
10 minutes on your computer thatwould have took me all day on
yours online yeah, I think thetakeaway from that is is number
one you don't know what youdon't know right, I didn't know
yeah and so if things are slower, then it's a good idea to look
(08:38):
at all 360 degrees of it agreedand if it's slow because it's a
physical attribute yeah thenit's okay to give yourself
permission to upgrade your toolsagreed to get the agenda done,
(08:58):
because that can take away thejoy yes if it's something, and
and I know for me, that's why Ihave the kind I have because if
I sit down to do something thatI enjoy, which is writing or
creating whatever I'm creating,if my tool is inconvenient or
(09:20):
misbehaving, boom, it takes meright out of that moment of joy,
it brings me right into of thatmoment of joy it brings me
right into that frustrationfrequency right and I don't want
to do it anymore that's whathappened to me this morning.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
You got the shower I'm gonna go work on, I'm gonna
go sit down and work on thestuff for the uh store, and I
sit down and the computerwouldn't do crap.
And I was just like, all right,okay, whatever.
And I started to get on yourcomputer and then I was like you
know what if she needs it,because I know you were talking
about doing some things todayand so I was like, well, that
(09:57):
just leaves me sitting heretwiddling my damn thumbs,
because it literally wouldn't doanything.
It wouldn't do nothing.
And so I was like, okay, let megrab the tiddlywinks and go sit
down on the floor and call myfriends over and I'll play
tiddlywinks in the floor.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
The cats won't even play with you because their nap
time is gone.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Right, they were gone .
Yeah, they weren't even around.
But the but, the whole point ofit was for me was like okay, I
was at first frustrated and Iwent into that.
Why is this?
Why did?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I put this in my reality yeah, and then.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
And then I realized you know, there's not a there
who cares, because knows a lotmore than I do right and so
there's a reason for it.
There's a reason why ithappened.
Who knows, it could be down theroad, maybe this computer, who
knows?
Right and and it's not asimportant for me to realize that
, hey, you know I didn't reallycreate this, and but there's a
(10:50):
reason that spirit saying okay,it's time for you to do
something different with this.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Well, just to clarify , you did create it, but yes the
knowing why you created it.
If it's not blatantly obviousright then, then you either
don't need to know it right now,it was just used to get you
motivated to go in the directionof the direction that you were
(11:19):
supposed to go, or you've gotsome sort of belief to look at.
I didn't?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Did you hear her?
She said that I created it.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, you did.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
She did that.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, you created that in your reality, but it's a good
example of that's what itsounded like in my head.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
This make clear you created it.
What?
The hell, you say but to me itwas like almost spirit reaching
the.
I could picture a spiritreaching their hand out and
saying look, come on, I got you,let's go right, I created it
just to get you going in adifferent direction yeah, and
something, something had tochange and so that's right, and
(12:04):
I was probably because I've beentrying to get all this stuff
done, I feel like it's takingforever.
Yeah, now I know why.
Right, because it was takingforever.
Yeah, like I mean that one dayI got like three or four things
done and I was like that's itRight.
Normally I would have got, Iwould have completed everything,
(12:28):
yeah.
And then when I was trying todo the store and get that
developed and and up and runningand set up, wow, what a
difference that was.
What a difference.
That is because, like the speed, cause I was waiting most of
the time for images and for foruh, products to pop up, and I
would, I would click on aproduct and it would be you see
the little spinning thing 20minutes later and then suddenly
(12:56):
it pops up.
And then when you go to changeanything and save it, sometimes
it wouldn't even save.
It would just like spin itselfout until I had to do twice.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But I'm excited to set my new pewter up.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, definitely, I'm excited for you, anyway.
So what's the topic today?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, I thought the topic well okay.
So this is a topic that comesup in our reality a lot and it
comes up in a lot of people'sreality and I think we really
need to talk about it okay iswhen you're in a committed,
committed relationship withsomebody is that what we're
calling it now?
we're married.
(13:40):
Sorry, you can't get rid of methat easy and I have a piece of
paper on the wall.
It wasn't on the wall, but it'ssomewhere.
But you know we come withbaggage and we talked about this
on our podcast before.
We spilled it all out there.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
We bring baggage, yeah they all do.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
But if they don't recognize that they're baggage
and they think they're perfect,then they.
But if they don't recognizethat they're ragged and they
think they're perfect, thenbuyer beware.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Because we all have patterns, programs and beliefs
that aren't serving us anymorethat we have a tendency to hang
on to.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And one topic that comes up a lot and it came up
when I was doing the counselingwith a couple back in the Bay
Area and I know it's come upwith you and that is
expectations on one topic andthat is sex.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Ooh, yeah, it is a very entailed deep subject.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, and so you know , my topic of the day is
spiritual sex.
Let's be real about it.
It's time to be real about sexand what sex is.
Yeah, you know, I was raised acouple of ways and I was taught
a couple of ways.
I was raised you know that,like my parents, they've been
together over 60 years.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Can we say sex on the radio?
Yeah, you can?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You can, just can't put it in the description and
we're not on the radio.
By the way, it's called freedomof speech, love.
We can say anything we want todo on the air.
We just can't put it in thedescription, because typing it
is not speaking it.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
So what do you have to do?
Like put a character.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, put a little character in there between the S
and the X.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Oh, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
They can't take our freedom of speech away.
Oh, okay, so when you go into arelationship and you have the
baggage, people come into thatthe sexual side, like I would
like I was saying.
I was raised with taughtbeliefs and then later on
learned beliefs yeah um, like myparents, you know, I know my
mom has never been with anotheranother man ever, just my dad,
(15:42):
and they've been together over60 years, um yeah, you don't
really look like everybody else,so that's questionable I know
right, I'm kidding.
I wondered that myself.
Actually, I wondered if Iwouldn't related to my uncle
gary.
Yeah, no, I'm kidding, I don'tknow anyway.
Uh, so maybe the milkman, andremember that was a joke back in
the day.
You must be the milkman, andremember that was a joke back in
(16:03):
the day.
You must be the milkman's kid,right?
And you know, my friend growingup used to say that too.
You don't look nothing likeyour parents or your brother.
Why are you adopted?
I don't know how many times.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I got it, I got it.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I'm like, I don't know, maybe, and I've always
thought so much different tothem, who knows.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
We digress.
Yeah, I was kidding.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Digress, but and uh, then, you know, as we age and we
grow older, like especially in,in and I I'm going to talk for
the boys and the men as we, youknow, we grow up with three
things that we get taught A isthe size of of your member makes
a big difference.
And b, the more you use it, thebetter you are okay that's how
(16:49):
we were taught back in my day.
Now it may have changed a littlebit now.
And then the third thing is ifyou don't use it, it'll fall off
.
That used to be a joke.
Seriously, it was a joke.
Back in day I heard that fromeverybody in my family.
I snorted and you know.
And then it used to be a bigdeal to masturbate.
(17:11):
If you masturbate you're bad.
Oh my God, you're going to gogreen herring upon your hand and
they would do that just to seeif you were masturbating,
because you would go no, I'm not.
I mean what?
But sex comes with all sorts ofdifferent negative topics
behind it.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, and the reality of sex is it's very easily
defined, which is much differentthan it was 100 years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I know, you know sex is really
used for two things pleasure andprocreation.
Yeah, and that's the onlybenefit of it.
Now we use it Now, society usesit in all different ways, and
this is where all the confusioncomes in.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
We use it to sell things.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
They use sexuality to sell things, to pronoun things
to, which is look, I'm nottalking about negative, about
pronouns at all.
I don't care what you are, aslong as you're spiritual and
true and honest and have moralsand ethics, I don't care.
Yeah, um, I don't care.
You know we use, they use sex toum, manipulate realities, gets
(18:15):
used yeah and and and, so itconfuses things for control they
use sex for control in a lot ofways and it has confused a lot
of things along the way, andwhen we we don't look at old
beliefs, patterns and programsand what's not serving us and
what is serving us, it can causesome ruckus in your life.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, yeah, like for me from the female perspective.
We were taught that it's kindof from the June Cleaver era, I
suppose, because for me a lot ofmy stuff came from my
grandparents from that era.
The belief for the female wasthat it's their job to keep
(19:02):
their man happy.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
It's a what it's a duty.
It's a duty, it's an assignment.
It's a checklist.
Yeah, it's a chore.
It's a what Sexually?
It's a duty, it's a duty, it'san assignment.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
It's a checklist.
Yeah, it's a chore, it's achore list.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Clean the house, get the kids to school, pack their
lunches, send them off to workin the morning with his lunch so
he can come home in the eveningfor a hot cooked meal on the
bed.
Give the kids a bath, feed thekids a bath, do the homework
with the kids, put the kids tobed and serve your husband.
Sex, sex.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Even if it's just 30 seconds.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Two pump chump.
That's another thing that wewere taught as men is if you
can't go a long time and thenyou're useless and nobody enjoys
it, but you yeah.
That used to be my joke.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Satisfy myself was all I worried about.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
The other thing that females are taught when you get
older, and not necessarily froma parental standpoint, but from
friends.
You get taught that you can usesex as a form of manipulation
towards the male culture.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And so and their emails are out there and they
use it to manipulate situations.
Listen, if that didn't happen,directions.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh yeah, if that didn't happen, there wouldn't be
websites out there like sugarbaby.
Yeah, you know we saw that showthat night on that girl, that
whatever show that we werewatching, where that girl was
like 22 and she was seeing a 70year old guy and but not having
sex.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But he was paying her five thousand dollars a month
and paying her rent and give hera car.
Come on you know, that's just.
And so she was using sex tomanipulate this yeah, yep, of
course, and 100 and so it causescan cause some ruckus in your
world.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Sex is a very entailed topic it can definitely
cause some uh confusion, right,especially Especially when you
go into a committed relationshipand you find yourself wanting
to free up your hard drive andthere's a joke in that somewhere
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.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Let me free up my hard drive.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
No, I mean your other hard drive, know this one oh
okay, I thought you meant lowerthe zipper anyway no, when you
get to a place where you arelooking for just authenticity
and you don't like.
For me, I kept and even to thisday it keeps kind of trying to
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pop up and I still struggle withit of being the wifely duty and
here's the rest of that comma.
If you don't take care of yourman at home, men always want sex
.
So if you don't take care ofhim at home, he is going to find
it somewhere, and it's not bymeans of his own self, is what
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we're taught.
We're taught that there's otherfemales out there that will
snag him out from underneath youand tend to his business if you
don't right, no right.
So it's a fear-based templatethat we do, and so a lot of
times.
What happens then for thefemale is it takes away the
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ability to enjoy it and it takesaway the ability to really tune
into that individual on, um,like an energetic connection
type place, or even justallowing sex to feel good in
your own body and knowing whatthat feels like in your physical
body because you're so focusedon it being about him and
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getting the chore done that.
It causes you to look at it ina much different way.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, and that's in, in, in from coming from the man
side of that.
When it becomes well, it wouldput yourself in the man's shoes.
You're walking into thescenario and every single day
the same thing happens.
Every third day sex is involvedor whatever.
It is Cause people get in theseweird routines and they do
weird things.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
But that's why?
Because if the female is beingtaught that we have to meet this
agenda of providing sex for themale so we can perform our
wifely duty.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
That way he won't go.
We are keeping up.
Keep his belly full and hisballs drained.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Right, my God, that sounds awful.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
That's what I've heard.
Old ladies tell that to theirdaughters.
I've heard that before.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, exactly.
And so we have in our mind,even on a subconscious level, a
time clock going yeah.
And if it's been so long, whatI'm working on and I'll talk
about me, what I am having towork on is coming out of that
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pattern and not allowing thistime clock, which I don't even
know what the time frequency isOne day, one week, like I can't
even tell you.
But there's a certain point inthat where my nervous system
throws up red flags and says, ohmy God, I know it's been a
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minute, I gotta go into wifelyduty mode and make sure that his
needs are met and I kind of gointo this panic mode state where
I've got to like tone it backdown, like and god forbid.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
You're the guy in that scenario, because when,
when that kind of thoughthappens with your wife, if
you're focused on doing otherthings, you are suddenly doing
bad things yeah, for sure, forsure.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
It causes monkey mind issues.
It does 100%.
And you know, back in the dayit was much worse than it is now
, I feel like, because then itwould be everything was a red
flag.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Oh, my God, you know what he went to the store to
pick up a loaf of bread.
I know I've gone with him andit takes 10 minutes and it's
been 13.
Ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
That means he's got time to stop by, see a girl,
kiss her, get back in the car,even taken into consideration
Red lights, green lights- theline at the checkout, the
logical logistics of actuallygetting there, there being a
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long line.
You know, that does come up alot Like when I was doing the
couples counseling back in thebay with that couple with their
names and he brought up aboutcheating and she, because she
did 15 years ago and I said okay, so she cheated 15 years ago
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but not, not on him.
Not on.
That's where I would go next.
You spoiled it.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I'm sorry, spoiler alert.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
And I said so.
She cheated on you 15 years ago.
No, no, no, it wasn't with me.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
So you're convicting her?
Where's your noise?
Speaker 1 (26:43):
What.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
I feel like you need a noise for that.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Like push one of those buttons, oh Like.
So you're worried constantlyabout this woman cheating
Because she cheated 15 years agoand, by the way, she's only 33.
16 years ago, whatever, she waslike 17.
She cheated on her boyfriendand she told him the story
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because she was trying to havefull disclosure.
Never cheated on him, butbecause of that scenario that
she told him in full disclosure,he has now controlled every bit
of her life for over 14 years,like tracing her on the phone
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and she's letting him.
If it's 30 or 45 minuteswithout a call, he's you know on
this phone and I'm just likebro, you're psychotic in this
scenario but the weird thingabout it to me is that why?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
why is she letting him do that?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
well, you know, that's where I got to that a
little later on, but the thething that I wanted to bring the
attention of that is he wasallowing sex and the thought of
sex and the thought of herhaving sex with somebody else
totally, control totally controlhis, his conscious mind yeah,
like everything he did was basedaround.
When she got off, when you know, it was all like this whole day
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he did was more worried aboutwhat she was doing other than
accomplishing his goals in life.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Almost like husband stalker.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, it was an odd situation.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, but it happens.
I mean it's out there.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
And it took me 60 days to get him to actually stop
and say maybe I am and I'm likeMaybe this is not a logical
behavior.
Maybe this is not healthyBecause he was like having hell,
heart problems and all sorts ofcrap at like 30.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Well, no wonder.
Yeah, you're creating a realityof a broken heart.
And so why are you having heartproblems, right?
Because you think she's goingto do something to you.
Yeah, and so the the wholescenario for me in sex in the
taught because he was taughtthat way, and then I find out
later that he was exposed tomultiple times of his dad
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cheating on his mother.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Right, I was going to say if you come out of the gate
as a child having kind of awonky perspective or definition
that you're taught it's a roughride.
I mean that's basically whathappened with me and my
situation.
I came out of the gate goinginto the pre-adult age very
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confused about what arelationship is supposed to be
because, unlike you, my parentalsituation was very, very
different.
My parents divorced the firsttime whenever I was seven-ish.
Then they got back together,remarried and then divorced.
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They did that.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
And then married somebody else and were still
going back to each other to havesex.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, they remarried each other several times before
they did the final.
Like that's it.
And then what happened is theywere having sex with each other
in a hidden format and we camehome and caught them.
Wah, wah, wah.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Did you say caught them?
Yes, as in like eyeball toeyeball.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yes.
Reverse cowgirl looking at youcoming in the front door yes.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Holy cow.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yes mind, warping, full stroke caught them, but the
you said full stroke.
The queer place about it, thehard to digest place about it,
was they were both.
My mother was actuallyremarried, yeah, and my father
was dating an individual.
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So they were in relationships,committed relationships.
So I guess you know what theysay tell me you need therapy
without telling me you needtherapy right yeah, yeah,
totally so I went into adulthoodnot really even knowing what
that is truly supposed to beright, screwed up.
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I just knew going into it thatI didn't want that.
Yeah, it didn't feel right,maybe, or something.
There was something about thatthat I didn't want.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, understood.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I wanted it to look differently.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I had some screwed up views about sex as I aged.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
But I also didn't want to.
I'm a big contender of the.
I don't want to box someone inand take away their freedom to
move about their journey as theysee fit with these weird
staunch dumbass.
(31:37):
Societally taught nonsensicalthings, and so I wanted someone
that would, I guess, workthrough even the sex or the
relationship or the marriage.
I can give that person thefreedom to incorporate other
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beings, we just have to talkabout it.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Okay, so in other words, you're saying that you
were willing to be open-mindedabout things.
Well, I mean, even now you andI have talked about it.
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I'm open to other ideas but, I, want to have a
full disclosure conversationfirst.
Yeah, totally About it.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
And the reality of that subject for a lot of people
is very faux pas.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Because like, oh my God, you know because listen.
When men were cavemen.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
They had several partners.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
They had several partners, and there are still
religions at this day that haveseven or eight wives.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
But the thing is, is our religions, our Western
religion has taught people sexis not natural.
And because sex is a naturalinstinct in all humans men,
women, whatever, whatever yourgender is, it doesn't matter,
it's a natural instinct to do.
Cats do it, dogs do it and allthe animals do it.
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We're all an animal, we arewarm-blooded critter, critters
and that's what we do.
You know when are procreating?
When you're in that stage.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
And there comes a point in your life where you
quit procreating, and so it'sabout pleasure.
And sometimes, when you areprocreating, it's just about
pleasure.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
And come into the understanding of the full
beliefs, Like for me, for us, askids I was, you know we were
taught it was a conquering thing.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
For the guy.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
For the guy.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
For the male species.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Oh my God, you see that girl over there.
Bro, I'm taking that one hometonight.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
That's my trophy for the evening.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Right, it became about conquering.
And then it becomes aboutespecially if you have that void
inside, like I did.
You know which?
If you read in my book, theunlock that I'm about to release
, you'll know that I searchedfor a very long time for this
void that I had.
Yeah, and it caused me to dosome stupid things.
You know sex, drugs, rock androll, whatever you know the old
football stuff.
I did some crazy things, butsex to me was always more about
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the conquering than it was thepleasure.
And it wasn't until I met youthat I could take that off my
plate, because she made itcompletely open to cheat.
And so you know what it's kindof like telling a kid that you
can have all the ding-dongs youwant and you put 50 boxes of
ding-dongs in the closet, abouta box or two in.
They're kind of done eatingding-dongs.
And so it took that conqueringmindset away and that's okay for
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me.
It is for the first time in mylife I'm pretty peaceful when it
comes to sex inside of me.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, and it doesn't have to be a performance-based
thing, right, you know, for me Iam looking for a more of an
authentic energetic exchange ofinteraction and energy.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Right, I agree.
Yeah, it's not about More of anatural flow and that's not
about I smell something.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Right, and on the female side, it's it.
It wasn't about conqueringRight.
Well, now I say that I'll tellyou like in high school it could
have been.
It could have been aboutconquering you know, Like, if
you're.
Well, I knew women thatconquered If you sleep with the
captain of the football team forthe female.
You and you're not part of thecheer team or in that loop.
(35:24):
Yeah, it is definitely.
It's like oh, I can put thatone on my belt even as a female.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Oh yeah, Guess who I slept with.
Yeah, Captain of the football.
Oh yeah, yeah look at me.
Yeah, I know a lot of womenthat did that and used it to
conquer things.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Well, and even in their adult life yeah, still to
this day.
I know women that have done itto conquer things.
Well, yeah, being able to notchtheir belt with famous people,
or famous sports people, or Iremember when I became a
restaurant owner the uh sexy onein the group, you know group of
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women together.
They go to the bar and play,and so why is that?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
answer that question.
What question?
Why is it when a group of womentogether that go to the bar and
play.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
So why is that Answer that question?
What question?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Why is it?
When a group of women go to thebar, there's normally three of
them Right, there's a goodlooking one, there's the chubby
one and then there's the onethat's never had sex before.
That is the designated driver.
Why do women do that?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
why do those three come together?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, why, why?
Why is it always that it's likeit's that role?
I've been asked this questionby guys before.
That's why I'm asking.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
I think it.
I think that particularscenario that you're putting
forth is more of a cause in theguy's world it's called the
wingman thing.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
A wingman yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yeah, for girls.
We don't really talk about it.
It's not like we go around andsay, okay, we're looking for the
fat girl in our group and youlook like you might be kind of
fun.
Do you want to come be the fatgirl in our group?
Like we don't do that.
Yeah, and no offense we're notbeing judgmental, by the way, as
you can tell, and you look likethe nerdy.
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I've never had sex person inthe group, so I'm looking for
somebody to carry that.
I think what happens is is thatyou've got that confident, good
looking female and if she's notaltogether healthy, what
happens is she'll unconsciouslyAttract those she views as
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weaker or lower Right.
Because it's an energeticexchange and the relationships
get created this way.
So let me take you to a rabbithole place right quick.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I really thought we were going to get through this
one and talk about the rabbithole, but that's okay, no, never
Listen.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I tell you at the very beginning pack your carrot
sandwiches.
You never know when you'regoing down a rabbit hole.
So it's a subconscious thingthat happens in the female world
.
We don't go to each other andsay, hey, can you be my wingman
tonight?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
It doesn't work like that.
We don't even talk about it, itjust kind of happens.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
You know me and my buddies just be like wingman for
life.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, no, we don't.
So what happens is society hasbuilt the image of the perfect
woman.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
They're a certain body build, they have a certain
features about them.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
And thank God they've changed that by Uh-huh Agreed.
Each female will perceivethemselves in a certain way, and
it never matches that image.
Right.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
So what it does is it whittles away at their
self-worth their confidence,their body image and that holds
an energetic frequency yeah, andthat holds an energetic
frequency yeah.
So they will naturally be drawnto those people females that
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align with how they seethemselves six foot and you know
, 19 pounds model materialbecause they're 22 pounds, yeah,
they can see themselves asheavy.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
And they don't want somebody that's 19 pounds
hanging around with them.
Understood so they becomefriends with someone that's 25
pounds.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
The fat girl right, it's an ego, it's not, it's not
on a conscious level.
No, I go out and consciously uh, what do you call it when you?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
right, and so I hope everybody understands that we're
not judging people by theirsize.
We're just giving you scenariosbased on how it?
Questions that we've had ascoaches and counselors and have
what we have witnessed over theyears and what I.
What I meant earlier by sayingyou know the mixture of the
three is because that scenarioactually happens to the state a
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lot still it does and I gotasked here right before we left
the bay area to come over here.
But why does that always happen?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
right, and even the, the girl that's the virgin and
is the smart one, that still isan energetic, it's an energetic
thing.
They bring that one in becausethe pretty girl is usually the
dingy blonde or the ding dongthat doesn't have a brain.
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The pretty- ones don't have thebrain, so they start to buy
into that concept that societyhas shoved in our face.
And quick note and, if you, aresmart, you usually dumb it down
because we're taught that guysdon't want us to be smarter than
them, because it's not anattractive feature.
(41:10):
Okay that's the caveat there,yeah we're taught that if we're
too smart, then guys won't wantus around yeah, you were taught.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I think that's up the kink.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Macho entity.
Persona of the man.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
And I know you like to think that it's changed.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Well, I think a lot of that has changed A lot of
things.
Like I just read that email Igot the other day on the because
, you know, ever since I did theresearch for the Merck Centers,
I get these emails from theuniversity studies and stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:47):
And from 91 to 2000, the average number of high
school graduates,percentage-wise, that were
graduating as a virgin was lessthan 20%.
Okay 20 to 2010,.
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It was now it had moved up toalmost 30%.
And they're saying now from2010 to 2020, that is up in
almost 50% range.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Good, yeah, and so progress there, but the crazy
part about this thing Well, it'snot because we want them to be
virgins, it's because thefemales have taken it off their
chore list well, that's what I'mgonna have sex now if and when
I want to right not because Ithink that I have to have sex
with you to make you love me orto make you want to hang on to
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me it's on a tour right in arelationship with me or be
married to me, because I'mwilling to have sex with you on
the frequency that you want meto have.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Frequency meaning right once a day, twice a day,
once a week, three times a week,whatever that number is, but
the caveat of that study that Iwas reading the number of men
has went down and number ofwomen has came up that aren't
virgins.
So the men are keeping theirvirginity more and women are
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keeping their virginity less,but the overall number has went
up.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
I see.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
When it comes to comparing the percentages, and
so, and that's actually a verygood thing, I think, because,
just like you said, now we're ina different mindset.
We're in a different mindsetthat you will have sex when you
want to have sex, and it's not achore, it's not something you
got to do to make somebody loveyou.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
And it is not.
It is not there to manipulateRight.
It is not there to manipulateRight.
It is there to procreate orpleasure.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah.
And it is okay if you're anadult, it's okay either way,
right, right.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
It's okay to have sex .
It's okay not to have sex.
It's okay to be balanced Right.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I think another topic is that we as a society need to
get more comfortable talkingabout this three-letter word
that's so taboo?
Yeah, it is a topic kind oflike finances.
It's a hard topic for a lot ofpeople to talk about, especially
with their partner.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
It wasn't for me.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Which is it's got some irony wrapped in it,
because this person your partnerhas been in places that are
very vulnerable.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
But yet you can't open your mouth and talk about
them.
Yeah, that seems a littlescrewy to me.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
But I get it.
It can cause, you know, it cancause arguments, it can cause
conflict, especially if theother person's not healthy and
whole about it.
It can put everybody in adefensive place very quickly
yeah.
Especially if in the man'sbubble there's what did you
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mention, If there's like a size,confidence issue yeah,
confidence issue yeah.
Or if there's a.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
If you're not big enough, they don't want you
anyway.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Right, if there's some of those baggages.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Not once did they ever teach me that the average
size of the American male isfive and a half inches.
And you know what they teach onthe female side, because I have
almost been average for atleast 20 years, like we've been
reading the ruler wrong fordecades.
This is 12 inches.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Because they've been teaching us that five and a half
inches is like this the menhave.
And listen, ladies, we havewoken up and we know that five
and a half is really this size.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Just kidding.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
No, you know, and that's really what this whole
thing is about.
It's about openness to talkingabout it in any way without
offending anybody.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Well, now hold on a second, being able to openly,
freely talk about it and notworry about offending right
because if someone gets offendedin the conversation, it's the
person who's getting offendedthat has the problem.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Like in mine and your situation.
If I'm talking openly andfreely and you get offended,
it's you that needs to look atthe baggage, not me.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Now, let me throw a little disclaimer out there.
That does not count at work.
Throw a little disclaimer outthere.
That does not count at work.
If you have a job and you openit, you have to be yeah, let's
not.
Let's not do that at work,because it can be an hr issue
for you what talking about sex?
Yeah yeah, I, I definitelywouldn't talk about sex at work
yeah, and just remember that ifyou overhear a sexual
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conversation at work, it is anHR issue, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
It is.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
But if it doesn't really offend, you don't make
nothing of it, for no reason.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I mean, if it's not your bubble, it's not your
freaking business.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Stay in your bubble, man.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Like get out of everybody's freaking bubble.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
That's another thing that the world would be much
better off if people just stayedto their own freaking bubble.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
You know, and the sex topic.
I think that we'll continue on.
We'll do a part two for sex,because you know, spiritual sex,
there's so much to sex.
There's beliefs behind it, likewe're just we're opening up in
some now.
But the main part about sex isbeing able to talk about it.
Talk about sex, what, everyaspect of it, with your partner,
with your kids, you know,because it's so important to
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teach them the right things inlife, which the conversation
that I never got.
I never got that as a when Iwas growing up no, yeah, I
didn't either.
I learned about sex from myfriends at school, who learned
about that, about sex from godknows where I, I mean, I learned
it from sneaking into my dad'slocker and reading, reading
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playboy magazine and and, uh,watching videos that were the
vhs tapes right, but if you didthat as a girl, you were like
the freaky tease that was yeahlike it wasn't okay for girls to
do that same thing in our era.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
It was very like eh.
You're not very ladylike.
You're a slut, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
You watch?
Speaker 2 (48:14):
what you read, what?
Oh my God, you're such a tease.
You're such a slut.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
It was not okay.
They used to call you somethingMattress, what they used to
call me.
Girls like that.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
It wasn't like one word, it was like a phrase.
You carry your mattress on yourback.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
Or mattress, something I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Mattress Maggie.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
But the whole purpose behind all this is getting this
started and open is, first ofall, talk about the beliefs and
be able to openly talk about sex, yeah, with your mate, with
your kids, with whoever Rightyou know, because sex is sex, it
is what it is.
Man, right, we all do it, justlike masturbation, we all do it.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yeah, if anybody tells you they don't masturbate,
they're liars.
There's definitely a song aboutthat and I think, coming into
the relationship that and Ithink coming into the
relationship that needs to bepart of the negotiation.
Agreed Like where are you inyour sex section of your life,
pie?
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
What do you want that to look like?
Where are you at, so that youcan decide if you're on the same
level with each other?
I agree, because when you don'thave that conversation and
you're not on the same level, itcauses a point of contention, a
possible point of contention.
(49:36):
I agree, and then it just fullystarts to feed into the.
You're not satisfying my needs.
That's what the man says.
And then the female's like, ohmy God, I'm not satisfying his
needs.
He's what the man says.
And then the female's like, ohmy God, I'm not satisfying his
needs, he's going to dump me,he's going to drop me, and it
further feeds into that.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Well, and the side of that too is you know how many
times we have we men, when weget in having sex and the woman
faked it, and so we thought wedid it right.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
Right faked it, and so we thought we did it right,
right, exactly because that'sanother big one.
If any man says they can tell ifyou're faking it, they're lying
that's right, because then,especially if you're good at
faking it it gives them falsedata it does, and they then
think that what they did worked,and so they're going to go back
(50:25):
and try that again, becausethey want to provide pleasure
for you and them.
And if it didn't work and youfake it.
You're just giving them falsedata and you're going to have to
relive that over and over.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
I think we should really really talk about this
topic on a couple of podcastsand get into it deep over and
over.
I think we should really reallytalk about this topic on a
couple of podcasts and over andover again.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
And did I say over again?
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, you did, yeah, you said it like three times.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
So it's a must.
You have to tell him.
As a female, you have to beable to tell him yeah, you know
what I love you so much, butwhatever you're doing, then
you're working.
It's not really working for me.
Can we try something different?
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Or if you're not able to have that type of
conversation, create a word,create a like what's up Hand
signal.
Like you know, there's gotta besome indication of being able
to say right, I don't reallycare for that.
Can we try something different,correct?
(51:33):
Or on the other side of that,if he is doing something that
you like, wasabi, that's, that's.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
The safe word is wasabi.
I was just playing.
If it don't feel good, you gowasabi.
If you really liked it, you cansay wasabi.
But hey, we've got to closethis up.
We're getting long here, solisten, pay attention, we will.
We will bring up this topicagain because this can be, this
(52:06):
could be a long series.
You know spiritual sex and thetopic because I think it's an
important thing in today's worldto really bring up, because
it's not on the forefrontanymore.
You don't hear a lot of peopletalking about it.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
No.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
And you definitely don't hear parents talking to
kids.
Now they're teaching it inschool, and if I was you, I
wouldn't want my kids to learnabout sex from a perfect
stranger.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Well, I mean right, but you can't.
I mean choose your battles.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah, I agree, anyway .
So, hey guys, we do have theshop will be open, I promise you
.
I have a new pewter now so Iwill get it up and running.
That is the salty tarot dot, myShopify dot com.
And we got Jenny has made someOracle cards and some tarot
cards that are going to be onthat shop, along with our merch
(52:58):
from our from the spiritualgrind merch, and our Web site,
www, that the Merck centers dotorg, that's MERCemerccentersorg,
that's M-E-R-C-C-E-N-T-E-R-Sorg.
We are on all of the channels.
Now we're going to startputting out video.
I'm going to try to get a videoposted this week, at least one
(53:19):
or two.
And then, of course, we haveJenny's new book out, scripted
from Within.
It is available on Amazon andKDP.
And then my book is out as well, um sales energy method.
If you're in the sales business, it will teach you a whole
different way to look at salesand how to handle it differently
.
It too is on Amazon and KDP.
And then pay attention, we havethe granny grandma's coming out
(53:42):
.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
We have the my new book called unlocked the granny
grandma's coming out.
Yeah, we have the my new bookcalled unlocked.
It's about unlocking yourinternal potential and it's got
my story in it, so my story ismight be surprising to you yeah,
yeah, so yeah, lots of thingsin the works and pay attention,
because, man, I think the mostexciting thing for me this is
going to be lots of fun.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
You mean, aside from the computer?
The app?
Yeah, we have an app indevelopment I'm not ready to
talk about that yet.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
But y'all pay attention.
We'll give you more on that inthe future.
Don't forget to like, followand share, and all this is going
to be all intermingled, by theway.
Don't forget to like, followand share.
And, hey, leave a comment,because you know that changes
the algorithm and it reallyhelps us.
So if you listen to the podcast, put a comment down at the
bottom, tell us you hated that.
I don't care, just putsomething down there.
(54:30):
Or tag one of your friends init.
Or if there's a topic in itthat you like, like, uh, like,
uh, you could do a hashtagspiritual sex.
You know that that could be atopic.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
It's a trending topic .
If there's a topic that youwant to discuss or a question
that you have that you want todive deep into and go down the
rabbit hole and for yous thatdon't know.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
For yous, I said that like a For yous that don't know
dog.
I said that like I was from aNew York gang or something the
views, something the views.
But if you don't know, you canactually hold you.
If you're on your phone, youcan actually hold down the
podcast and it'll pop up to thescreen in the description and it
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has a share button.
So you can hit that sharebutton and you can put it on
your facebook if there's one youreally like, and you can put it
on your instagram.
anywhere you can message it tosomebody yeah all with that
little share button, and thatshare button looks like a little
arrow like this you got alittle dot in the middle right
there, and you can share thatwith your friends.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (55:32):
But anyway.
So we appreciate you alllistening and watching now, and
don't forget to like, follow andshare and, if you'd like,
comment on the difference in ourtan.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
Oh, that's rude.
Speaker 1 (55:54):
You're in our tan, oh , that's rude.
Speaker 2 (55:56):
You're a cheater when it comes to that.
Hey don't forget.
Yeah, ring the bell, ring thebell, don't forget to ring the
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bell.
Hey, y'all have an awesome day.
Love you.
We'll see you next time.
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