April 10, 2025 • 50 mins
A Caribbean cruise sparked a profound realization: in our quest for spiritual growth, we often forget to be human. After seven days at sea, free from the constraints of daily life and constant connectivity, we discovered how easily we neglect the joy, spontaneity, and adventure that make life worth living.
Many of us become so hyper-focused on our spiritual journey – clearing beliefs, raising consciousness, achieving goals – that we create an imbalance. We excel at structuring our work lives but fail to apply the same intentional approach to our enjoyment and pleasure. We've been conditioned by messages like "the world owes you nothing" and "you have to work hard for everything," creating rigid mindsets that prioritize responsibility over joy.
What would happen if we applied the same strategic approach to creating fun as we do to creating success? What if we set clear intentions for our pleasure, listened to our intuition about what brings us happiness, and committed to balancing spiritual work with lighthearted play?
The podcast explores the paradoxical nature of control – how believing we have "no control" is actually an exercise of our extraordinary power to create that experience. We're such powerful beings that we can manifest the illusion of powerlessness, which demonstrates our ultimate control. This perspective shift can free us to experiment with releasing our grip and flowing more naturally between different states of being.
Balance isn't maintaining a static, unchanging equilibrium where work and play always receive equal weight. True balance is dynamic and adaptable, like a teeter-totter that moves up and down while still functioning perfectly. Sometimes we need more seriousness, while other times we benefit from being completely "irresponsible" and playful. The key is giving ourselves permission to experience both without judgment.
Ready to create more adventure in your life? Join us as we explore how to be spiritual beings having a truly human experience. Visit our website at www.themerccenters.org or find us on social media @theMercCenters to continue the conversation!
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Good morning, Dr Jeannie.
Good morning we're back on theshow.
We've been off for a coupleweeks.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Has it been a couple of weeks?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I think so.
We didn't do any shows lastweek and we were gone, I mean
the week before last, and wewere gone on the cruise for
eight days, seven days.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
No, we did that one that was like malfunctioning,
where it did half and then shutoff.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh yeah, that's right .
What day was that I?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
don't think it's been quite a couple of weeks, but
anyway, hey, welcome back guys.
Thanks for listening to theSpiritual Grind we are back on
the mic today, um, after aseven-day caribbean cruise has
been.
It was really nice.
Oh, mexico, is it consideredcaribbean or is it mexico?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
well, it was a mexico trio, is what they call it, but
um, they kept calling it thecaribbean, so I don't really
know.
If it's's not the Caribbean, weneed to go there.
Okay, I shall get that planned.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
We can leave next week.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
You know, and we've been doing the relationship
series in here and I'm going totake a break from it this week
Because this cruise may open myeyes to a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Really.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I've never been on a cruise before and it made me
realize that sometimes we forgetto be human in our spiritual
experience.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Do tell.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Like you know, I guess what brings it to mind is
here I am.
I'm 52 years old.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh my God, You're what.
I'm old is here, I am.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I'm 52 years old.
Oh my God, you're old.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You did not tell the truth when we got together and
I'm going to need an upgrade.
Just kidding.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
You're older than me, Anyway.
So we we and I had never beenon a cruise and I think the
reason why I was so focused onmy, my journey and trying to
create things within my journeyI forgot to be a human in it as
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of late or in your former lifein my former life I forgot to be
human.
I forgot to have experience insome in in the fun side of life.
You know where we can.
I mean, I just spent seven dayson a boat.
That was delightful when I'dheard all these you know,
stories about people gettingseasick and blah, blah, blah,
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blah, all this stuff and and Ihad zero negative experience.
Um, the only thing I would saywas I would consider even
halfway negative is how they dothe drinks on the boat.
It's hard to get something todrink around there.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's not hard to get something to drink.
It's just having a variety ofchoices.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yes, all they had was Coke products, that's what I
would say on this particularcruise line.
Yeah, we had a delightfulcruise.
You know, we hit some some ninefoot seas and 49 winds and and
instead of getting seasick, Ienjoyed it and it rocked me to
sleep like a like a 52 year oldbaby.
Indeed it was really it was.
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It was very delightful.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It was quite enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Very peaceful, had no cell phone service.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I think what it did for me was it gave me the
opportunity to you know, in thesemi-retired job that we
currently have, we say a lot oftimes we are creating the
concept of a cruise ship on landfor these folks.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Where it is a relaxing, enjoyable,
entertaining experience, livingin this communal type building,
and I think we do a pretty goodjob of it.
And I think we do a pretty goodjob of it.
But what it did for me is itlet me experience that concept
from the customer yeah, from theparticipant side rather than
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from the manager side kind ofenvironment for seven days where
somebody else worried aboutwho's scheduled for who, or
worried about, for example.
What brought it to my attentionis when we were not able to
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port in Coast of Maya and I knewin my head that, wow, the
activity department is reallygoing to have to go into red
alert and do plan B to keep all2,000 of these residents
entertained for the day, becausethe day just got shell-shocked.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And I said to myself F word.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I'm glad that's not me.
2,140 people.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Happened to do that, and they had to come up with an
extra sea day of activities yes,and in a matter of, literally,
because we were at port.
I was on the deck when we got tocosta maya and I saw the port
light.
I saw them being green and thenyellow and then, you know, kind
of like the lighthouse light.
They say you know it wasblinking, and when all of a
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sudden it all went red.
And then what?
10 minutes later he came on.
The captain came on and saidthat the coast of my port had
been closed, and I kind of hadthe same thought.
I'm like, oh, what's that bringfor the day today, then?
Because here we are planning tobe at port for 11 hours.
Yeah, and knowing from amanager's standpoint of running
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a similar concept.
Oh, that was my funny bone.
Anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Sorry, a similar concept yeah, at sea, but having
the enjoyment that I didn'thave to be an active participant
in creating that.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, and it was really it was nice, it was
enjoyable.
It was a good time.
I really, really enjoyed it.
Did I just irritate you?
What did I do?
Did I do something?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I just feel like you weren't wanting me to finish
that sentence.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
No, I just bumped my elbow, I bumped my funny bone,
oh, and it wasn't too funny, butso we went on.
And then, what is?
About an hour later, they comeup with this activity list and
they have a full day ofactivities.
And then all these people haveto jump into action.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And grumpy people yeah.
They have to jump into action.
And grumpy people yeah, theyhave to somehow make the.
I mean because there was ahandful of people that were
extremely unhappy about the factthat they didn't get to stop at
port.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So it's got like a double whammy.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Well, and the crew too.
You got to think about the crew.
They were looking for a portday and most of the time they
get some breaks and everybody'soff the ship, right, and so then
they have to call and wakeeverybody up, go through the
crew deck and create a list ofstuff for these occupied people,
right, or to occupy the peopleon the ship.
And it woke me up a little bitto understanding that we were, I
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was missing part of my life,and so it's kind of opened doors
for me to look at things alittle differently and living
you know, a little bit more onthe, it's okay for us to enjoy
ourselves, no matter what it is.
You know we don't have to beall serious all the time yeah,
(08:08):
100 and so that's where I wantto go with the podcast today so
when?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
when do you start that?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'm I'm starting it now okay, why he has that?
Um, are you?
Are you my best friend?
Yeah, but I want to talk topeople about I mean, don't get
so caught up in the riffraff andthe rigmarole and the
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commitment and don't forget tobalance your.
You can have fun and balanceand still work and still be
lighthearted and still havefriends and still have a social
life and go do adventures andyou can.
You can have balance in that.
I think that's where my life,or what what I recognized on
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this boat is.
You know there's a reason whywe get what is it?
10 or 12 weeks a year vacation?
You start using them.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
For sure.
I mean, that's what they're foris to stop and unplug from the
day-to-day.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I think we get so hyper-focused on our spiritual
world not just us, I'm talkingabout just humans in general
that when we are going throughan awakening process we become
so focused on trying to make iteasier we forget to live the
easy.
And you know, like the day wegot back to port, I didn't want
to get off the ship.
Like the day we got back toport, I didn't want to get off
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the ship.
I almost handcuffed myself tothe railing and was going to
refuse to get off because Ididn't want to go back to
reality.
And the key part of that isit's how I labeled the reality I
made it to, where my journeywas out of balance.
(10:07):
Prior to going on this shipPrior to going on this ship, I
see, you know, taking one week ayear in 52 weeks is not enough.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, I don't even think we do it that often.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Well, this is the first time since we've been with
this company that we have takenthat many days off in a row.
It's the first time.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
And so the and we we could have took an extra day or
two if we wanted to.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And, oh my goodness, nothing major happened.
The building is still standing.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I know right, it's pretty cool.
And so how do we teach peopleto create balance within life
and be more fun and lightheartedwithin their spiritual journey?
How do we do that, doctor?
Oh, I hear it.
Wait, wait, I have the buttonfor this.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I mean, I mean it's just just do it, Like you just
make a decision that you'regonna not be so serious all the
time and you just do it.
You just make a decision.
Yeah, I mean, I can use you asan example.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Okay, what was that?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
That was me releasing air.
I think y'all call it a burp.
You know like with you you getvery inundated with the work
part of your life and you getwrapped up in that like a big.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Banana.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Burrita.
Banana I like banana better andyou get, and so it's.
It almost like blocks your view, put your blinders on, so to
speak, to looking at the wholebig picture, and I think that's
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the key component.
I see it all the time.
People on, so to speak, tolooking at the whole big picture
, and I think that's the keycomponent.
I see it all the time.
People are so engulfed in theday-to-day got to go to work,
got to do the laundry, got topay the bills I don't think it's
even just the spiritualcommunity.
Got to pay the bills.
(12:27):
I don't think it's even justthe spiritual community, I think
it's just as a whole.
People are so engulfed in thehumanness of a task-oriented
mindset that they forget to letin the spontaneity and the fun
and the unfocus.
Got to stay focused so that Ican achieve a goal, so that I
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can be successful, so that I canhave the retirement, and my
goals are this, this and this,and I got to stay on track and
stay on path.
And you get so wrapped up ingetting it done that you stop
looking for the adventure alongthe way and the fun along the
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way and the moments where youcan laugh and play and just
unplug for a second from therobotic lifestyle that sometimes
can happen is what I see.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I I agree.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And I think to myself when I see that, because I know
for me I go around a lot oftimes just in my fairytale world
and you made a comment about itjust yesterday on the phone my
wife likes to watch Disney andthat gentleman had some comment
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to make about it.
I don't remember what he said,Are we?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
still six or something.
I don't remember what he said.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Right, it was somewhat of a derogatory comment
, of being childish and I waslike well, try it on for size,
size, and you might feel alittle better.
You know, you know, this is agentleman that's not in the best
of health and has to go aroundin a moby I mean, he has a, good
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, he has a jovial personalityfor the most part, but it just
reminded me that so many peoplein society are so engulfed in
the robotic motions of theday-to-day tasks of trying to
accomplish some kind of goal andwhat is that?
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you know, that's the way we'retalking go to work, let me get a
paycheck, let me pay the bills,let me do the, let me have my
days off, so I can do my choresso that I can just go and rinse
and repeat and do it all overagain.
And you get so wrapped up inthat that you forget to say oh
wow it's been 542 weeks sinceI've taken an actual vacation
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and unplugged and I'm talkingabout unplug.
Like I'm not talking about goingon vacation and still having
access to your work email onyour phone and still taking
calls and still answering callsand even just sitting around
thinking, okay, when I get backto work, I've got to make sure
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and do this, this and this andthis.
Or when you leave to board theplane or board the ship or go on
vacation, whatever that lookslike you're saying in your head
okay, wait, did I do this?
Did I do this?
Did I do this?
That's not unplugged.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Right, I agree.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
So when we got on the ship, we made a conscious
decision to not buy the Wi-Fipackage.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, I did.
That was 100% on purpose.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
But even in using you as an example, as you said I
could, there was still a momentwhen we got to the first port
where you had cellular serviceand you were right back in.
You got sucked briefly backinto checking your email,
checking your voicemail,checking your phone, that you
went right back into that habitand I had to actually get
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extremely humanly frustratedwith you and say, uh, no, that's
not what this is about.
And so, hello, I know I agree,I did.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
That's not what this is about, and so hello.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
No, I agree, and that's what I'm talking about is
being consciously aware thatwe're doing that Right and not
calling out those of us thatdon't do it as irresponsible or
aloof.
Or because I get.
I get tagged a lot of timesbecause, listen, I don't have my
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email and all that shit on myphone.
Nobody has my number.
I don't even know where myphone is most of the time, but
that's because I choose to livethat way, because I don't want
to be inundated and engulfed bythe nonsense.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And I get you know comments will be made like being
aloof or being not facingreality or not being focused or
any of that, and living in thefairytale world or living
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childishly.
And you know what I say topeople who say that Piss off.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Piss off.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Piss off.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I think this has all come down to teaching, because I
was taught that the world'snever going to give you nothing.
You've got to work for what youearn no such thing as easy
money.
I was I don't know how manytimes I've heard all that stuff
growing up and that's how I wastaught Like, I mean, I started
hauling hay when I was what?
12, just to make money, becauseI was from a low income family
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and I went through building upmy you know, my work ethic and
my level of commitment, and I,you know like, when all this
came to my reality the other dayon the boat deck, what I kept
thinking about is is, even backthen, when I was actually making
a ton of money, making a bunchof money, I didn't do anything
to enjoy it.
You know, you put in this hardwork and dedication, so it's not
about to me, it's not about thefact of having to, you know,
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being dedicated to your work,doing your job, earning your
money, allowing the world togive you what you have earned
and deserve.
But what I want to change thephrase of is you're right,
they're right, the world doesn't, it doesn't owe you nothing and
the world's not going to giveyou anything, but you will give
you something.
Your higher self will give youwhat you need.
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You're um, you create a balancewithin it and then it becomes
an easier journey for andremember to be lighthearted
through it.
I think that's where mychallenge is, because we're
taught that way.
We're taught that we have toearn every dollar we make and
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fast money.
Easy money is not good.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
All that stuff.
And what came to my thoughtswhen I was on the deck was my
gosh.
I've missed a lot of life and Idon't want anybody else to do
that.
And so you know I'd say it'sokay to have a work life, it's
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okay to have a fun life, it'sokay to have that personal
commitment to being adventurousand having fun and keeping your
responsibilities and stillfinding the balance within it.
It's about that level ofneutrality to where you can do
anything you want.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
It's okay to have no responsibility as well.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That's the life I choose.
I want to be responsible fornothing.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
What about your listeners out there?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I'm not responsible for them.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
You're not, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Nope, I provide the frequency and the information,
and what they choose to do withit is their journey, not mine.
I don't take that on.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I 100% am on board with that fact of well.
Let me back up.
So for some people, it's hardfor them to say I don't want to
have any responsibility.
That's a hard thing for somepeople and I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Why.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Because you know that's giving up control,
because we're taught to controlour reality humanly, especially
when it comes to employment.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So let's talk about that for a second.
Okay Shall we.
Yeah, let's.
The concept of control Mm-hmm,because the simple fact of
thinking that you're giving upcontrol or that you've lost
control means exactly that youare in such control that you
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have the ability to create anillusion that you have given up
control or that you are not incontrol.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Which then tells you that you are in complete control
at all times and that you are avery powerful being within that
.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
So you never lose control or give up control or
never don't have control.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Could you hit the crit get button for me.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Since I don't get buttons.
I'm thinking about what yousaid, can you phrase it in other
terms, you sure do doing a lot.
That was a whole lot ofdoo-doos, mr.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Pooty Pants.
Yes, mr Poopy Pants.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Are you the Poopy Pants?
You used to have the PoopyPants.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
No, I didn't poop in my pants.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Well, I sure heard you doo-dooing over there.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Okay, so you want me to do a remix of the phrase we
can remix.
Okay, let's begin again.
Okay, so you're a spiritualbeing having a human experience.
Agree, disagree, agreed.
Right so the concept of control.
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Right, so the concept ofcontrol.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You always have and are in control, that you are not
in control or that you arelosing control or that you must
control it.
For the simple experience ofhaving that kind of reality, you
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have so much power and so muchcontrol that you have the
ability to create a virtual,holographic experience of not
having control.
Therefore, you are actuallyultimately the ultimate control
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king and queen by maintaining areality that appears to have no
control, but you have suchself-control that you can hold
back the control and trickle itin or make a reality appear for
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yourself to have absolutely nocontrol.
A little bit of control,control in some areas, no
control in other areas, liketurning on a water faucet, but
you're still creating thatvirtual reality from a place of
complete and total, powerfulcontrol, because you create your
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own reality.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
So you're saying giving up control is really
controlling.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, it's a paradox Giving up control is actually
you having so much control andso much power that you have the
ability to create a reality thatmakes it appear that you are in
fact giving up your control orcan't get control of a situation
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.
Hmm, Interesting Rabbitsandwich I mean carrot sandwich
people.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
We haven't rabbit.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
No, we don't eat the rabbit.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Oh, you said rabbit sandwich.
And so for me to conceptualize,what you are saying is putting
yourself into a differentdimension to where your human
experience, you give up thecontrol which, in turn, is
actually having control, becauseyou have the control to give up
the control.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well, it's not really a different dimension, it's a
different reality.
But we'll go into that later.
But yes in essence, it's thesubconscious unawareness that
you have the control over yourreality.
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When we say you create yourreality, that's what I mean you
literally create your ownreality, by which you utilize
your control, and if you need tolearn and expand and grow from
a reality that says I haveabsolutely no control or have no
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control over this or over that,you have the ability to create
that experience by removing theexperience of having control
over whatever area in the lifeof Pi that you so choose.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Okay so.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Like money or a job or a relationship.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
So when you said having no control, what area do
you feel like you have nocontrol over?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Well, I mean, that's just it.
It's not about feeling havingno control, it's the feeling of
feeling like that.
We have to keep control and weare keeping control by creating
our spiritual world in reality,clearing beliefs constantly.
We're constantly looking atourselves to better our reality,
and that is a form of control,but yet we don't take the time
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to um, let control of thereality become lighthearted and
fun and enjoy the balance of thereality.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So what makes you feel like you have to have
control over anything?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Well, it's not really that we have to have control.
It's more about it's kind ofwhat's bred into me, and
probably a lot of people outthere is trying to control our
reality, trying to be the bestwe are at everything that we do.
And that is actually one of thethings that drive me is I like
to be successful and what I viewas successful because I set my
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own parameters and I'mself-managed really well and my
own goals and my own instinctsof those goals is what I follow.
Now, I'm really good at doingthat in a work performance
setting, but when it comes to apleasure, you know, uh, having
fun and lightheartedness in ourjourney is the part that I have
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a hard time struggling of.
Okay, Like at work, I can set agoal and I and I know the steps
to get there because myintuition tells me what to do
and I set those is it yourintuition telling you what to do
, or is it?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
no higher past life experiences that dictate.
Okay, I know that in the past Idid this and I took this step,
so it got me this result.
And you're finishing the puzzleby doing it that way, humanly
and humanly intervening andcontrolling what you think is
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controlling the situation, whenI think it's a little of both
and so you're humanly maybe overcontrolling and over maybe
overdoing it you know, I thinkit's a little both for me and
and clearing that stuff out ofthe way is man that goes deep.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That's a hard, because my next question for you
.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
If you, if you were an actual client that I was
working with, my next questionwould be well, when you're
talking about that and you'resetting up your work day of,
okay, this is my goal and theseare the steps I know to do to
get there, how does that makeyou feel in your emotional
guidance system.
How does it make you feel?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
It makes you feel like I'm in control of my
reality.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Makes me feel what is the emotion?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
that probably secure and um, a little bit of solace,
and you're going to accomplishgoals, setting goals and so I
would say that for me it createsa harmony would probably be the
.
The emotion behind it is kindof that.
Okay, I got this, you know, inmy work, history and my
(29:46):
intuition and guidance, in thatI have set those beliefs in
motion to where I kind of listento all of it.
And what was it about that?
That was a doctor, like youknow.
When you're talking to apsychiatrist and they go and you
say on the third, you say waita minute, why are you and me so
(30:14):
you make it sound very easy inyour work life, right?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
why is it not that easy in your whatever other
section of life?
You called it your pleasurelife or your fun life, fun life.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
That's exactly what I'm talking about non-work part
of your life that's exactly whatI'm talking about in the
beginning of this podcast is Irealize that I am not creating
that same kind of environment inmy fun side and creating
balance.
I'm just kind of whatever comescomes and you know, that's why
I mean I liked the fact that youplay into this crew and it was
(30:51):
in.
We had, I had something to lookforward to.
You know, there was a goal inmind and I don't know how many
times we said 29 days.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Right, yeah, I made the rule that I asked one day
how many days we have left,because I know he he was
counting down and he saidsomething like 31 days or
something.
I was like, oh no, that's notthe answer, it was 71 days.
Yeah, it was somethingridiculous and I said I do not
want to hear anything other than29 days.
(31:20):
Until we get to the actual 29thday and you're ready to tell me
28 days, I will hear nothingelse.
So you're not allowed to giveme any other number but 29 and
that's okay.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
So I played that game , yeah, which?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
worked very well for me because, yeah, whenever I
asked that day and you said 71days or something like that, I
felt myself melt into thisbucket of.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Disappointment.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yes, because I was so ready.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Why is it so far away ?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Go enjoy some downtime away from the hustle
and bustle of people and workand being the person that
everybody looks at and wants allthis shit from, I get tired of
that.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Mm-hmm.
What does that mean Nothing?
What does that mean Nothing?
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
doctor.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I'm not a doctor yet.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Does that mean I need a new medication?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
What does that mean?
And so this is exactly you'reactually bringing up the point
of where I was when, on thatdeck, I realized that I am not
setting goals for my fun lifeand letting my intuition and
guidance run me through that.
Setting goals for my fun lifeand letting my intuition and
guidance run me through that,like you know, I kind of go
willy nilly and I I kind ofhandle in our relationship.
I kind of handled the businessside and you handle the fun side
(32:51):
and I have not been in track oron track with you in creating
the fun side of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And that's where I'm working on getting my parameters
set in the things that I wantto accomplish in my fun side
yeah, I'll agree with that,because you, you, you say a lot
of times on the weekends you'lltry to plan something and you'll
, you'll make the statement ofhad all this stuff planned and
(33:21):
nothing's working out.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Mm-hmm.
And it happens frequently wewere going to take the motor
home to Daytona Beach and then Icalled to get a place at the
campground and it was bike week,so we couldn't even everything
was booked you couldn't getanywhere.
And I am not staying at acampground during bike week
because I hear it gets crazyover there.
But the realization on the deckfor me to say to myself you
(33:48):
know, why aren't you creatingthat same kind of environment in
your fun side is where I'm atwith it and I'm working on
setting on parameters andclearing some beliefs.
And you know like I rememberone time my Uncle Gary telling
me all you ever want to do isplay, when I was younger, you
can't take life serious.
And so that's been enthralledand I'm working on clearing.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I would look at Uncle Gary and say, yep, you're right
, I'm not taking anythingserious.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Well, you know, I was raised in a redneck country.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Nothing serious is going on around here, folks.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I was raised in a redneck state in a redneck area,
and when you're not a seriousredneck and take control of your
reality, you're a loser is howthey look at you, and my uncle,
gary, said that to me that time.
You need to be serious aboutlife and quit playing.
All the time you know, set yourlife up.
This world owes you nothing.
(34:41):
And blah, blah, blah, blah,blah went on, and that that you
know that business came in myhead of him saying that to me
one time, and and and it stuck,and so I've been working on
clearing that out of the way andmaking sure that I allow myself
to play, to have fun, to createa place of balance and
(35:06):
adventure, and that's what I'mworking on today and that's why
I wanted to bring it up in thistopic, because, you know, it
makes me wonder how many otherpeople out there do the same
thing, and are they humbleenough to stop and identify that
?
I mean because I want to sit onthat, or I mean because I want
to sit on that when I wassitting on that deck and we were
pulling back into Tampa Bay andthe Tampa Bay smell came back
(35:27):
and all that stuff, because, man, oh, down in the water in
Mexico, it's beautiful yeah, itis the the bay is such brown,
murky water, it's not not oceanwater.
In my opinion, it's right, it's.
I don't know why it's evenbrown.
It smells the way it does, butit doesn't matter to me.
The the point was is I enjoyedthat cruise wholeheartedly, even
(35:51):
though we missed the port, eventhough the drinks were weird.
I still enjoyed it, because youknow why the drinks weren't
weird.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
it's just that we don't drink water on a regular
basis, necessarily, and we arePepsi product people, and so
what they offered was Cokeproducts.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah Well, and the only place you could get water
was at the buffet.
They won't give you water atthe bar.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I tried once, but does it matter where it comes
from?
Speaker 1 (36:19):
It was just weird, you wanted water.
It was just weird to me, itwasn't very convenient for comes
from.
It was just weird.
You wanted water.
It was just weird to me, itwasn't very convenient for the
customers.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Guess what?
You had two bottles of watersitting in your cabin.
They could have very easilytaken the lid off and drank.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
I agree, I agree, but anyway, that's where my light
heart is.
What's that?
Speaker 2 (36:38):
show called where they debunk.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Mythbusters.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Mythbusters Myth busted.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
They had a metal sign that would come up and say
busted.
I used to love that show, itwas fun to watch.
So, identifying it and beinghumble enough to say you know
what, I have been kind ofscrewing that up a little bit up
to say you know what, I havebeen kind of screwing that up a
little bit and I'm working onthe, the steps and the beliefs.
You know, like I said, with myuncle gary, and creating a
(37:07):
pattern, trying to create thatpattern in my life of allowing
myself to create fun andadventure and setting the goals
for that and creating the stepsand following this I could do at
work, in my, in my fun life ormy fun side of my life that
creates balance.
I want to be able to have thatsame intuition and that same
guidance that allows me to bewho I am.
(37:30):
Still.
I hear crickets.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Okay, I got nothing there well, I mean, there's not
really much to say.
Journey Journey on dude.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Journey on Create it.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Party on Wayne I mean , I guess the only thing I would
say is sometimes it's even okayto be out of balance, like you
keep using the word to createbalance and harmony, but that by
itself can trip you up a littlebit.
If you're so staunch in tryingto maintain this balanced
(38:06):
position where you don't havetoo much fun or you don't have
too much work, give yourselfpermission to just have too much
fun.
Like, get rid of the wordbalance sometimes, because even
that can create a verystructured reality.
(38:28):
Okay, I've got to have 50% funand I've got to have 50% work,
and right now I've had 49% funand only have 1% left, and so
when I laugh at this person'sjoke, that's going to use up my
last 1%, and then the rest ofthe month I have to be only work
and business minded and have nomore fun points left, and and
(38:51):
so just be careful, because thatcan trip you up as well.
Allow yourself to be unbalancedsometimes, because wanting to
maintain balance, if it has awonky definition, can trip you
up as well.
Don't be is not constant.
(39:12):
You have to have flow, yeah,which sometimes will take the
balance.
So I envision this that littleweight, you know that, um,
(39:38):
apothecary weight scale and andeach side is is equally weighted
so that it never moves that'snot how life is.
That's not even how yourphysical body functions yeah
even in your physical body, yourchemistry, your hormones.
Sometimes this one will beelevated and this one will not,
(40:03):
and then other times, dependingon what you need physically in
your body, the chemical a willdecrease and chemical b will
increase, and so the balanceability.
I feel the need to clarify this.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Balance, ability or the word balance, and what that
actually is intended to mean isnot this static, consistent,
both sides of the scale alwaysat the middle place.
Yeah, that, the two mechanismsor the two components or the
(40:44):
multiple components within amechanism or within whatever
you're doing, have the abilityto be malleable or movable and
can fluctuate and move withinthat and move within that.
It's more of almost like anadaptability, because if you
(41:11):
always are just trying tomaintain this staunch balance,
where your emotion is constantlyneutral and you don't listen,
you will find yourself back inthat robotic place of just
wanting to maintain thisstraight line of balance, and
that's not what balance is okaybalance is, you know, finding
the joy and the fun andexperiencing the contrast it's
(41:35):
not so fun so that you canbetter identify what you want
that moment to really look like.
So that when you go and youexperience that moment again,
you can say to yourself okay,I've come to a fork in the road.
I've been here before, Irecognize it's familiar.
But now, now that I had theprevious experience experience,
(42:07):
I do remember that I went leftin this fork in the road and I
didn't enjoy the aspects of itquite as much.
So you know what, this time,even though going right is
unknown and a little bit scary,rather than going left because
it's familiar, I know that Ididn't enjoy it as much I'm
going to go ahead and I'm goingto jump off and go right that if
(42:29):
you were trying to staystaunchly balanced, you wouldn't
allow yourself to go right.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I am totally understanding and agree with
what you're saying Because Ilook at it the scale kind of
like a teeter-totter.
Agree with what you're sayingbecause I look at it the the
scale kind of like ateeter-totter.
When you put two 200 poundpeople on one of one side of the
teeter-totter one other side ofthe teeter-totter, you can go
up and down, you can still flow.
There's still a flow in it.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
But if you need to, you can balance but if you put a
200 pound person on one end and150 pound person on the other,
and the 200 pound person gets onsecond and the 200 pound person
gets on second and the 150pound person gets flung up in
the air, it is some funny shitit is.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I agree we used to do it on purpose, or when the 200
pound person falls off and thenthe other jumps off on purpose
and yeah, and the other one goesflying the other one goes
flying.
Yeah, we used to do that all thetime that's some good laughs,
honestly and the reality is, ona teeter-totter is a 200 pound
person and 150 pound person canstill balance the teeter-totter,
(43:30):
and that is where my analogy ofthe situation is for me and
where I'm trying to go in adirection of more freedom, in
fun and freedom and experienceand adventure and allowing my
giving myself the permission tobe more of that kind of person.
(43:53):
And that's what I'm working onclearing beliefs for them.
And you know like cause there'smany of them.
You know there, there's many ofthem that I've been really
checking in with since I was onthat deck that morning and
trying to figure out where in mylife did I turn?
Because I used to be.
Everybody talked about me.
I was that kid that bouncedaround.
(44:14):
I was always laughing.
I remember my teacher tellingmy dad one time in one of my
parent-teacher conferences thathe's got to learn to be a little
serious every now and then.
Because, I was always crackingjokes.
I was making everybody laugh.
I was the class clown as theywould call you.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
You can still get stuff done and be that.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Right, and here's another thing that popped in my
head.
On that deck the other day was,there was this kid I'm going to
call him Randy who was in highschool.
He was the epitome ofirresponsibility, according to
everybody else's perception.
You know he got caught smokingweed behind the gym.
He, you know he got suspendedmultiple times because he acted
up, didn't do homework, blah,blah, blah, blah blah.
(44:54):
But he was a really fun guy tobe around, right.
And I remember one time when hegot in trouble in the hallway
and our principal said, lookedhim dead in the eye and said you
know, your life is going to beso rough if you don't straighten
up.
And he said my life's going tobe as fun as I allow it to be.
And he, of course he got introuble for backtalking back to
the principal and blah blah,blah, blah.
(45:15):
You know what he is now.
He's a multimillionaire, ofcourse, and still the same guy.
Yeah, um, and we, you know,like I, I went to, uh, my old
high school and I stopped by andI seen the sign as I went by,
because I'm not gonna say hislast name, but there was this
thing that said his last nameoil company and supply.
(45:38):
I was like, hmm, and it broughtto my reality, is that is that
him?
And so I turn around on thehighway and I turn and go back
and I pull in and, sure enough,there he is still, the spitting
image of what he looked like inhigh school, yeah, and I was
like, well, hey, randy what is?
going on.
Is this yours?
(46:00):
I mean, it was this hugecompany.
He was in the last little suitand he was sitting there playing
with legos on his desk.
He wasn't creating a legostructure, yeah, and I was like,
wow, what are you doing now?
And he had started doing oilpipe supply and then ended up in
the oil business and you know,he just he said, I just continue
(46:21):
to follow my adventurousthoughts yeah, that's exactly
what you know, because that'swhat I keep putting out there.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
If you continue to follow the next piece of joy or
excitement, you'll get therestep by step by step by step.
And I actually asked him beingserious or being responsible,
piss off, he said.
Send that out the window.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I said so you know what kind of you know what are
you doing next?
What's after this?
And he said nope, this is itfor me.
And he said I'm just going tosit here and play and enjoy life
and work three days a week andstill control my company, but
I'm going to go have some fun.
And that's what he does.
I mean, he's got a pilot'slicense.
We went to his house.
(47:09):
He had this huge mansion andyou know what?
He created a basement and hisentire basement was nothing but
stuff for him to play aroundwith.
It was booze, ball tables,movie theater, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah this whole sabang.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
And so he wasn't living a life of I can have this
or that, I can have it all, Ican have this and that.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Right.
He said I live how did he putit that day.
I think I live withoutrestrictions of thought.
Something he said, something tothat extent.
And then of course it was kindof cool to see him and hang out
a little bit and listen to him,but it didn't really absorb into
me.
When I created my business andI created my company I was being
(47:57):
too serious because that beliefof being taught when I was a
young kid by one of my uncles ofyou know was stuck in and
embedded in there, braided rightinto my hair.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
It was.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yes, it was.
I'm working on removing that.
That's what I'm working on.
That's what I'm trying to say.
I'm wanting you to quit judgingme.
No, that's what I'm saying I'mworking on.
That's why it's in my realityis because I want to be that un.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Irresponsible person.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
The unrestricted thought.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I think that was a good way for him to.
I challenge you to beirresponsible.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah, that's you know .
I want to get to that point of.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Never face reality and be completely irresponsible.
And see what happens.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Well, maybe I'll get there.
I'm trying, that's what I'mdoing.
I'm working on that.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Anyway, I'm never facing reality and I'm always
irresponsible.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Well, I guess you create balance for me, but
anyway I feel complete, do youfeel?
Complete, and I hope they gotsomething out of this for me.
I always feel complete.
Do you feel complete?
And I hope they got somethingout of this for me because this
podcast was more about me, Ithink, than anybody, and I I
hope that somebody got somethingout of it.
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Indeed, I'm sure they did so you feel complete,
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Good morning, Dr Jeannie.
Good morning we're back on theshow.
We've been off for a coupleweeks.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Has it been a couple of weeks?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I think so.
We didn't do any shows lastweek and we were gone, I mean
the week before last, and wewere gone on the cruise for
eight days, seven days.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
No, we did that one that was like malfunctioning,
where it did half and then shutoff.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh yeah, that's right .
What day was that I?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
don't think it's been quite a couple of weeks, but
anyway, hey, welcome back guys.
Thanks for listening to theSpiritual Grind we are back on
the mic today, um, after aseven-day caribbean cruise has
been.
It was really nice.
Oh, mexico, is it consideredcaribbean or is it mexico?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
well, it was a mexico trio, is what they call it, but
um, they kept calling it thecaribbean, so I don't really
know.
If it's's not the Caribbean, weneed to go there.
Okay, I shall get that planned.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
We can leave next week.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
You know, and we've been doing the relationship
series in here and I'm going totake a break from it this week
Because this cruise may open myeyes to a couple of things.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Really.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I've never been on a cruise before and it made me
realize that sometimes we forgetto be human in our spiritual
experience.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Do tell.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Like you know, I guess what brings it to mind is
here I am.
I'm 52 years old.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Oh my God, You're what.
I'm old is here, I am.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I'm 52 years old.
Oh my God, you're old.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You did not tell the truth when we got together and
I'm going to need an upgrade.
Just kidding.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
You're older than me, Anyway.
So we we and I had never beenon a cruise and I think the
reason why I was so focused onmy, my journey and trying to
create things within my journeyI forgot to be a human in it as
(02:34):
of late or in your former lifein my former life I forgot to be
human.
I forgot to have experience insome in in the fun side of life.
You know where we can.
I mean, I just spent seven dayson a boat.
That was delightful when I'dheard all these you know,
stories about people gettingseasick and blah, blah, blah,
(02:54):
blah, all this stuff and and Ihad zero negative experience.
Um, the only thing I would saywas I would consider even
halfway negative is how they dothe drinks on the boat.
It's hard to get something todrink around there.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's not hard to get something to drink.
It's just having a variety ofchoices.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yes, all they had was Coke products, that's what I
would say on this particularcruise line.
Yeah, we had a delightfulcruise.
You know, we hit some some ninefoot seas and 49 winds and and
instead of getting seasick, Ienjoyed it and it rocked me to
sleep like a like a 52 year oldbaby.
Indeed it was really it was.
(03:41):
It was very delightful.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It was quite enjoyable.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Very peaceful, had no cell phone service.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I think what it did for me was it gave me the
opportunity to you know, in thesemi-retired job that we
currently have, we say a lot oftimes we are creating the
concept of a cruise ship on landfor these folks.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Where it is a relaxing, enjoyable,
entertaining experience, livingin this communal type building,
and I think we do a pretty goodjob of it.
And I think we do a pretty goodjob of it.
But what it did for me is itlet me experience that concept
from the customer yeah, from theparticipant side rather than
(04:33):
from the manager side kind ofenvironment for seven days where
somebody else worried aboutwho's scheduled for who, or
worried about, for example.
What brought it to my attentionis when we were not able to
(04:54):
port in Coast of Maya and I knewin my head that, wow, the
activity department is reallygoing to have to go into red
alert and do plan B to keep all2,000 of these residents
entertained for the day, becausethe day just got shell-shocked.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And I said to myself F word.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I'm glad that's not me.
2,140 people.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Happened to do that, and they had to come up with an
extra sea day of activities yes,and in a matter of, literally,
because we were at port.
I was on the deck when we got tocosta maya and I saw the port
light.
I saw them being green and thenyellow and then, you know, kind
of like the lighthouse light.
They say you know it wasblinking, and when all of a
(05:45):
sudden it all went red.
And then what?
10 minutes later he came on.
The captain came on and saidthat the coast of my port had
been closed, and I kind of hadthe same thought.
I'm like, oh, what's that bringfor the day today, then?
Because here we are planning tobe at port for 11 hours.
Yeah, and knowing from amanager's standpoint of running
(06:10):
a similar concept.
Oh, that was my funny bone.
Anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Sorry, a similar concept yeah, at sea, but having
the enjoyment that I didn'thave to be an active participant
in creating that.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, and it was really it was nice, it was
enjoyable.
It was a good time.
I really, really enjoyed it.
Did I just irritate you?
What did I do?
Did I do something?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I just feel like you weren't wanting me to finish
that sentence.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
No, I just bumped my elbow, I bumped my funny bone,
oh, and it wasn't too funny, butso we went on.
And then, what is?
About an hour later, they comeup with this activity list and
they have a full day ofactivities.
And then all these people haveto jump into action.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
And grumpy people yeah.
They have to jump into action.
And grumpy people yeah, theyhave to somehow make the.
I mean because there was ahandful of people that were
extremely unhappy about the factthat they didn't get to stop at
port.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So it's got like a double whammy.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Well, and the crew too.
You got to think about the crew.
They were looking for a portday and most of the time they
get some breaks and everybody'soff the ship, right, and so then
they have to call and wakeeverybody up, go through the
crew deck and create a list ofstuff for these occupied people,
right, or to occupy the peopleon the ship.
And it woke me up a little bitto understanding that we were, I
(07:46):
was missing part of my life,and so it's kind of opened doors
for me to look at things alittle differently and living
you know, a little bit more onthe, it's okay for us to enjoy
ourselves, no matter what it is.
You know we don't have to beall serious all the time yeah,
(08:08):
100 and so that's where I wantto go with the podcast today so
when?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
when do you start that?
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I'm I'm starting it now okay, why he has that?
Um, are you?
Are you my best friend?
Yeah, but I want to talk topeople about I mean, don't get
so caught up in the riffraff andthe rigmarole and the
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commitment and don't forget tobalance your.
You can have fun and balanceand still work and still be
lighthearted and still havefriends and still have a social
life and go do adventures andyou can.
You can have balance in that.
I think that's where my life,or what what I recognized on
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this boat is.
You know there's a reason whywe get what is it?
10 or 12 weeks a year vacation?
You start using them.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
And.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
For sure.
I mean, that's what they're foris to stop and unplug from the
day-to-day.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I think we get so hyper-focused on our spiritual
world not just us, I'm talkingabout just humans in general
that when we are going throughan awakening process we become
so focused on trying to make iteasier we forget to live the
easy.
And you know, like the day wegot back to port, I didn't want
to get off the ship.
Like the day we got back toport, I didn't want to get off
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the ship.
I almost handcuffed myself tothe railing and was going to
refuse to get off because Ididn't want to go back to
reality.
And the key part of that isit's how I labeled the reality I
made it to, where my journeywas out of balance.
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Prior to going on this shipPrior to going on this ship, I
see, you know, taking one week ayear in 52 weeks is not enough.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, I don't even think we do it that often.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Well, this is the first time since we've been with
this company that we have takenthat many days off in a row.
It's the first time.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
And so the and we we could have took an extra day or
two if we wanted to.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And, oh my goodness, nothing major happened.
The building is still standing.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I know right, it's pretty cool.
And so how do we teach peopleto create balance within life
and be more fun and lightheartedwithin their spiritual journey?
How do we do that, doctor?
Oh, I hear it.
Wait, wait, I have the buttonfor this.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I mean, I mean it's just just do it, Like you just
make a decision that you'regonna not be so serious all the
time and you just do it.
You just make a decision.
Yeah, I mean, I can use you asan example.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Okay, what was that?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
That was me releasing air.
I think y'all call it a burp.
You know like with you you getvery inundated with the work
part of your life and you getwrapped up in that like a big.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Banana.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Burrita.
Banana I like banana better andyou get, and so it's.
It almost like blocks your view, put your blinders on, so to
speak, to looking at the wholebig picture, and I think that's
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the key component.
I see it all the time.
People on, so to speak, tolooking at the whole big picture
, and I think that's the keycomponent.
I see it all the time.
People are so engulfed in theday-to-day got to go to work,
got to do the laundry, got topay the bills I don't think it's
even just the spiritualcommunity.
Got to pay the bills.
(12:27):
I don't think it's even justthe spiritual community, I think
it's just as a whole.
People are so engulfed in thehumanness of a task-oriented
mindset that they forget to letin the spontaneity and the fun
and the unfocus.
Got to stay focused so that Ican achieve a goal, so that I
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can be successful, so that I canhave the retirement, and my
goals are this, this and this,and I got to stay on track and
stay on path.
And you get so wrapped up ingetting it done that you stop
looking for the adventure alongthe way and the fun along the
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way and the moments where youcan laugh and play and just
unplug for a second from therobotic lifestyle that sometimes
can happen is what I see.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I I agree.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And I think to myself when I see that, because I know
for me I go around a lot oftimes just in my fairytale world
and you made a comment about itjust yesterday on the phone my
wife likes to watch Disney andthat gentleman had some comment
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to make about it.
I don't remember what he said,Are we?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
still six or something.
I don't remember what he said.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Right, it was somewhat of a derogatory comment
, of being childish and I waslike well, try it on for size,
size, and you might feel alittle better.
You know, you know, this is agentleman that's not in the best
of health and has to go aroundin a moby I mean, he has a, good
(14:14):
, he has a jovial personalityfor the most part, but it just
reminded me that so many peoplein society are so engulfed in
the robotic motions of theday-to-day tasks of trying to
accomplish some kind of goal andwhat is that?
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you know, that's the way we'retalking go to work, let me get a
paycheck, let me pay the bills,let me do the, let me have my
days off, so I can do my choresso that I can just go and rinse
and repeat and do it all overagain.
And you get so wrapped up inthat that you forget to say oh
wow it's been 542 weeks sinceI've taken an actual vacation
(15:03):
and unplugged and I'm talkingabout unplug.
Like I'm not talking about goingon vacation and still having
access to your work email onyour phone and still taking
calls and still answering callsand even just sitting around
thinking, okay, when I get backto work, I've got to make sure
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and do this, this and this andthis.
Or when you leave to board theplane or board the ship or go on
vacation, whatever that lookslike you're saying in your head
okay, wait, did I do this?
Did I do this?
Did I do this?
That's not unplugged.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Right, I agree.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
So when we got on the ship, we made a conscious
decision to not buy the Wi-Fipackage.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, I did.
That was 100% on purpose.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
But even in using you as an example, as you said I
could, there was still a momentwhen we got to the first port
where you had cellular serviceand you were right back in.
You got sucked briefly backinto checking your email,
checking your voicemail,checking your phone, that you
went right back into that habitand I had to actually get
(16:15):
extremely humanly frustratedwith you and say, uh, no, that's
not what this is about.
And so, hello, I know I agree,I did.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
That's not what this is about, and so hello.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
No, I agree, and that's what I'm talking about is
being consciously aware thatwe're doing that Right and not
calling out those of us thatdon't do it as irresponsible or
aloof.
Or because I get.
I get tagged a lot of timesbecause, listen, I don't have my
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email and all that shit on myphone.
Nobody has my number.
I don't even know where myphone is most of the time, but
that's because I choose to livethat way, because I don't want
to be inundated and engulfed bythe nonsense.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And I get you know comments will be made like being
aloof or being not facingreality or not being focused or
any of that, and living in thefairytale world or living
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childishly.
And you know what I say topeople who say that Piss off.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Piss off.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Piss off.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I think this has all come down to teaching, because I
was taught that the world'snever going to give you nothing.
You've got to work for what youearn no such thing as easy
money.
I was I don't know how manytimes I've heard all that stuff
growing up and that's how I wastaught Like, I mean, I started
hauling hay when I was what?
12, just to make money, becauseI was from a low income family
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and I went through building upmy you know, my work ethic and
my level of commitment, and I,you know like, when all this
came to my reality the other dayon the boat deck, what I kept
thinking about is is, even backthen, when I was actually making
a ton of money, making a bunchof money, I didn't do anything
to enjoy it.
You know, you put in this hardwork and dedication, so it's not
about to me, it's not about thefact of having to, you know,
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being dedicated to your work,doing your job, earning your
money, allowing the world togive you what you have earned
and deserve.
But what I want to change thephrase of is you're right,
they're right, the world doesn't, it doesn't owe you nothing and
the world's not going to giveyou anything, but you will give
you something.
Your higher self will give youwhat you need.
(18:50):
You're um, you create a balancewithin it and then it becomes
an easier journey for andremember to be lighthearted
through it.
I think that's where mychallenge is, because we're
taught that way.
We're taught that we have toearn every dollar we make and
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fast money.
Easy money is not good.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
All that stuff.
And what came to my thoughtswhen I was on the deck was my
gosh.
I've missed a lot of life and Idon't want anybody else to do
that.
And so you know I'd say it'sokay to have a work life, it's
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okay to have a fun life, it'sokay to have that personal
commitment to being adventurousand having fun and keeping your
responsibilities and stillfinding the balance within it.
It's about that level ofneutrality to where you can do
anything you want.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
It's okay to have no responsibility as well.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
That's the life I choose.
I want to be responsible fornothing.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
What about your listeners out there?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I'm not responsible for them.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
You're not, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Nope, I provide the frequency and the information,
and what they choose to do withit is their journey, not mine.
I don't take that on.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I 100% am on board with that fact of well.
Let me back up.
So for some people, it's hardfor them to say I don't want to
have any responsibility.
That's a hard thing for somepeople and I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Why.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Because you know that's giving up control,
because we're taught to controlour reality humanly, especially
when it comes to employment.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So let's talk about that for a second.
Okay Shall we.
Yeah, let's.
The concept of control Mm-hmm,because the simple fact of
thinking that you're giving upcontrol or that you've lost
control means exactly that youare in such control that you
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have the ability to create anillusion that you have given up
control or that you are not incontrol.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Which then tells you that you are in complete control
at all times and that you are avery powerful being within that
.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
So you never lose control or give up control or
never don't have control.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Could you hit the crit get button for me.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Since I don't get buttons.
I'm thinking about what yousaid, can you phrase it in other
terms, you sure do doing a lot.
That was a whole lot ofdoo-doos, mr.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Pooty Pants.
Yes, mr Poopy Pants.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Are you the Poopy Pants?
You used to have the PoopyPants.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
No, I didn't poop in my pants.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Well, I sure heard you doo-dooing over there.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Okay, so you want me to do a remix of the phrase we
can remix.
Okay, let's begin again.
Okay, so you're a spiritualbeing having a human experience.
Agree, disagree, agreed.
Right so the concept of control.
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Right, so the concept ofcontrol.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
You always have and are in control, that you are not
in control or that you arelosing control or that you must
control it.
For the simple experience ofhaving that kind of reality, you
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have so much power and so muchcontrol that you have the
ability to create a virtual,holographic experience of not
having control.
Therefore, you are actuallyultimately the ultimate control
(23:32):
king and queen by maintaining areality that appears to have no
control, but you have suchself-control that you can hold
back the control and trickle itin or make a reality appear for
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yourself to have absolutely nocontrol.
A little bit of control,control in some areas, no
control in other areas, liketurning on a water faucet, but
you're still creating thatvirtual reality from a place of
complete and total, powerfulcontrol, because you create your
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own reality.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
So you're saying giving up control is really
controlling.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, it's a paradox Giving up control is actually
you having so much control andso much power that you have the
ability to create a reality thatmakes it appear that you are in
fact giving up your control orcan't get control of a situation
(24:45):
.
Hmm, Interesting Rabbitsandwich I mean carrot sandwich
people.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
We haven't rabbit.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
No, we don't eat the rabbit.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Oh, you said rabbit sandwich.
And so for me to conceptualize,what you are saying is putting
yourself into a differentdimension to where your human
experience, you give up thecontrol which, in turn, is
actually having control, becauseyou have the control to give up
the control.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well, it's not really a different dimension, it's a
different reality.
But we'll go into that later.
But yes in essence, it's thesubconscious unawareness that
you have the control over yourreality.
(25:36):
When we say you create yourreality, that's what I mean you
literally create your ownreality, by which you utilize
your control, and if you need tolearn and expand and grow from
a reality that says I haveabsolutely no control or have no
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control over this or over that,you have the ability to create
that experience by removing theexperience of having control
over whatever area in the lifeof Pi that you so choose.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Okay so.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Like money or a job or a relationship.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
So when you said having no control, what area do
you feel like you have nocontrol over?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Well, I mean, that's just it.
It's not about feeling havingno control, it's the feeling of
feeling like that.
We have to keep control and weare keeping control by creating
our spiritual world in reality,clearing beliefs constantly.
We're constantly looking atourselves to better our reality,
and that is a form of control,but yet we don't take the time
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to um, let control of thereality become lighthearted and
fun and enjoy the balance of thereality.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
So what makes you feel like you have to have
control over anything?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Well, it's not really that we have to have control.
It's more about it's kind ofwhat's bred into me, and
probably a lot of people outthere is trying to control our
reality, trying to be the bestwe are at everything that we do.
And that is actually one of thethings that drive me is I like
to be successful and what I viewas successful because I set my
(27:34):
own parameters and I'mself-managed really well and my
own goals and my own instinctsof those goals is what I follow.
Now, I'm really good at doingthat in a work performance
setting, but when it comes to apleasure, you know, uh, having
fun and lightheartedness in ourjourney is the part that I have
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a hard time struggling of.
Okay, Like at work, I can set agoal and I and I know the steps
to get there because myintuition tells me what to do
and I set those is it yourintuition telling you what to do
, or is it?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
no higher past life experiences that dictate.
Okay, I know that in the past Idid this and I took this step,
so it got me this result.
And you're finishing the puzzleby doing it that way, humanly
and humanly intervening andcontrolling what you think is
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controlling the situation, whenI think it's a little of both
and so you're humanly maybe overcontrolling and over maybe
overdoing it you know, I thinkit's a little both for me and
and clearing that stuff out ofthe way is man that goes deep.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
That's a hard, because my next question for you
.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
If you, if you were an actual client that I was
working with, my next questionwould be well, when you're
talking about that and you'resetting up your work day of,
okay, this is my goal and theseare the steps I know to do to
get there, how does that makeyou feel in your emotional
guidance system.
How does it make you feel?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
It makes you feel like I'm in control of my
reality.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Makes me feel what is the emotion?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
that probably secure and um, a little bit of solace,
and you're going to accomplishgoals, setting goals and so I
would say that for me it createsa harmony would probably be the
.
The emotion behind it is kindof that.
Okay, I got this, you know, inmy work, history and my
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intuition and guidance, in thatI have set those beliefs in
motion to where I kind of listento all of it.
And what was it about that?
That was a doctor, like youknow.
When you're talking to apsychiatrist and they go and you
say on the third, you say waita minute, why are you and me so
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you make it sound very easy inyour work life, right?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
why is it not that easy in your whatever other
section of life?
You called it your pleasurelife or your fun life, fun life.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
That's exactly what I'm talking about non-work part
of your life that's exactly whatI'm talking about in the
beginning of this podcast is Irealize that I am not creating
that same kind of environment inmy fun side and creating
balance.
I'm just kind of whatever comescomes and you know, that's why
I mean I liked the fact that youplay into this crew and it was
(30:51):
in.
We had, I had something to lookforward to.
You know, there was a goal inmind and I don't know how many
times we said 29 days.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Right, yeah, I made the rule that I asked one day
how many days we have left,because I know he he was
counting down and he saidsomething like 31 days or
something.
I was like, oh no, that's notthe answer, it was 71 days.
Yeah, it was somethingridiculous and I said I do not
want to hear anything other than29 days.
(31:20):
Until we get to the actual 29thday and you're ready to tell me
28 days, I will hear nothingelse.
So you're not allowed to giveme any other number but 29 and
that's okay.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
So I played that game , yeah, which?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
worked very well for me because, yeah, whenever I
asked that day and you said 71days or something like that, I
felt myself melt into thisbucket of.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Disappointment.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yes, because I was so ready.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Why is it so far away ?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Go enjoy some downtime away from the hustle
and bustle of people and workand being the person that
everybody looks at and wants allthis shit from, I get tired of
that.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Mm-hmm.
What does that mean Nothing?
What does that mean Nothing?
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
doctor.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I'm not a doctor yet.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Does that mean I need a new medication?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
What does that mean?
And so this is exactly you'reactually bringing up the point
of where I was when, on thatdeck, I realized that I am not
setting goals for my fun lifeand letting my intuition and
guidance run me through that.
Setting goals for my fun lifeand letting my intuition and
guidance run me through that,like you know, I kind of go
willy nilly and I I kind ofhandle in our relationship.
I kind of handled the businessside and you handle the fun side
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and I have not been in track oron track with you in creating
the fun side of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
And that's where I'm working on getting my parameters
set in the things that I wantto accomplish in my fun side
yeah, I'll agree with that,because you, you, you say a lot
of times on the weekends you'lltry to plan something and you'll
, you'll make the statement ofhad all this stuff planned and
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nothing's working out.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Mm-hmm.
And it happens frequently wewere going to take the motor
home to Daytona Beach and then Icalled to get a place at the
campground and it was bike week,so we couldn't even everything
was booked you couldn't getanywhere.
And I am not staying at acampground during bike week
because I hear it gets crazyover there.
But the realization on the deckfor me to say to myself you
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know, why aren't you creatingthat same kind of environment in
your fun side is where I'm atwith it and I'm working on
setting on parameters andclearing some beliefs.
And you know like I rememberone time my Uncle Gary telling
me all you ever want to do isplay, when I was younger, you
can't take life serious.
And so that's been enthralledand I'm working on clearing.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I would look at Uncle Gary and say, yep, you're right
, I'm not taking anythingserious.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Well, you know, I was raised in a redneck country.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Nothing serious is going on around here, folks.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
I was raised in a redneck state in a redneck area,
and when you're not a seriousredneck and take control of your
reality, you're a loser is howthey look at you, and my uncle,
gary, said that to me that time.
You need to be serious aboutlife and quit playing.
All the time you know, set yourlife up.
This world owes you nothing.
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And blah, blah, blah, blah,blah went on, and that that you
know that business came in myhead of him saying that to me
one time, and and and it stuck,and so I've been working on
clearing that out of the way andmaking sure that I allow myself
to play, to have fun, to createa place of balance and
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adventure, and that's what I'mworking on today and that's why
I wanted to bring it up in thistopic, because, you know, it
makes me wonder how many otherpeople out there do the same
thing, and are they humbleenough to stop and identify that
?
I mean because I want to sit onthat, or I mean because I want
to sit on that when I wassitting on that deck and we were
pulling back into Tampa Bay andthe Tampa Bay smell came back
(35:27):
and all that stuff, because, man, oh, down in the water in
Mexico, it's beautiful yeah, itis the the bay is such brown,
murky water, it's not not oceanwater.
In my opinion, it's right, it's.
I don't know why it's evenbrown.
It smells the way it does, butit doesn't matter to me.
The the point was is I enjoyedthat cruise wholeheartedly, even
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though we missed the port, eventhough the drinks were weird.
I still enjoyed it, because youknow why the drinks weren't
weird.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
it's just that we don't drink water on a regular
basis, necessarily, and we arePepsi product people, and so
what they offered was Cokeproducts.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah Well, and the only place you could get water
was at the buffet.
They won't give you water atthe bar.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I tried once, but does it matter where it comes
from?
Speaker 1 (36:19):
It was just weird, you wanted water.
It was just weird to me, itwasn't very convenient for comes
from.
It was just weird.
You wanted water.
It was just weird to me, itwasn't very convenient for the
customers.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Guess what?
You had two bottles of watersitting in your cabin.
They could have very easilytaken the lid off and drank.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
I agree, I agree, but anyway, that's where my light
heart is.
What's that?
Speaker 2 (36:38):
show called where they debunk.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Mythbusters.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Mythbusters Myth busted.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
They had a metal sign that would come up and say
busted.
I used to love that show, itwas fun to watch.
So, identifying it and beinghumble enough to say you know
what, I have been kind ofscrewing that up a little bit up
to say you know what, I havebeen kind of screwing that up a
little bit and I'm working onthe, the steps and the beliefs.
You know, like I said, with myuncle gary, and creating a
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pattern, trying to create thatpattern in my life of allowing
myself to create fun andadventure and setting the goals
for that and creating the stepsand following this I could do at
work, in my, in my fun life ormy fun side of my life that
creates balance.
I want to be able to have thatsame intuition and that same
guidance that allows me to bewho I am.
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Still.
I hear crickets.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Okay, I got nothing there well, I mean, there's not
really much to say.
Journey Journey on dude.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Journey on Create it.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Party on Wayne I mean , I guess the only thing I would
say is sometimes it's even okayto be out of balance, like you
keep using the word to createbalance and harmony, but that by
itself can trip you up a littlebit.
If you're so staunch in tryingto maintain this balanced
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position where you don't havetoo much fun or you don't have
too much work, give yourselfpermission to just have too much
fun.
Like, get rid of the wordbalance sometimes, because even
that can create a verystructured reality.
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Okay, I've got to have 50% funand I've got to have 50% work,
and right now I've had 49% funand only have 1% left, and so
when I laugh at this person'sjoke, that's going to use up my
last 1%, and then the rest ofthe month I have to be only work
and business minded and have nomore fun points left, and and
(38:51):
so just be careful, because thatcan trip you up as well.
Allow yourself to be unbalancedsometimes, because wanting to
maintain balance, if it has awonky definition, can trip you
up as well.
Don't be is not constant.
(39:12):
You have to have flow, yeah,which sometimes will take the
balance.
So I envision this that littleweight, you know that, um,
(39:38):
apothecary weight scale and andeach side is is equally weighted
so that it never moves that'snot how life is.
That's not even how yourphysical body functions yeah
even in your physical body, yourchemistry, your hormones.
Sometimes this one will beelevated and this one will not,
(40:03):
and then other times, dependingon what you need physically in
your body, the chemical a willdecrease and chemical b will
increase, and so the balanceability.
I feel the need to clarify this.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Balance, ability or the word balance, and what that
actually is intended to mean isnot this static, consistent,
both sides of the scale alwaysat the middle place.
Yeah, that, the two mechanismsor the two components or the
(40:44):
multiple components within amechanism or within whatever
you're doing, have the abilityto be malleable or movable and
can fluctuate and move withinthat and move within that.
It's more of almost like anadaptability, because if you
(41:11):
always are just trying tomaintain this staunch balance,
where your emotion is constantlyneutral and you don't listen,
you will find yourself back inthat robotic place of just
wanting to maintain thisstraight line of balance, and
that's not what balance is okaybalance is, you know, finding
the joy and the fun andexperiencing the contrast it's
(41:35):
not so fun so that you canbetter identify what you want
that moment to really look like.
So that when you go and youexperience that moment again,
you can say to yourself okay,I've come to a fork in the road.
I've been here before, Irecognize it's familiar.
But now, now that I had theprevious experience experience,
(42:07):
I do remember that I went leftin this fork in the road and I
didn't enjoy the aspects of itquite as much.
So you know what, this time,even though going right is
unknown and a little bit scary,rather than going left because
it's familiar, I know that Ididn't enjoy it as much I'm
going to go ahead and I'm goingto jump off and go right that if
(42:29):
you were trying to staystaunchly balanced, you wouldn't
allow yourself to go right.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I am totally understanding and agree with
what you're saying Because Ilook at it the scale kind of
like a teeter-totter.
Agree with what you're sayingbecause I look at it the the
scale kind of like ateeter-totter.
When you put two 200 poundpeople on one of one side of the
teeter-totter one other side ofthe teeter-totter, you can go
up and down, you can still flow.
There's still a flow in it.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
But if you need to, you can balance but if you put a
200 pound person on one end and150 pound person on the other,
and the 200 pound person gets onsecond and the 200 pound person
gets on second and the 150pound person gets flung up in
the air, it is some funny shitit is.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
I agree we used to do it on purpose, or when the 200
pound person falls off and thenthe other jumps off on purpose
and yeah, and the other one goesflying the other one goes
flying.
Yeah, we used to do that all thetime that's some good laughs,
honestly and the reality is, ona teeter-totter is a 200 pound
person and 150 pound person canstill balance the teeter-totter,
(43:30):
and that is where my analogy ofthe situation is for me and
where I'm trying to go in adirection of more freedom, in
fun and freedom and experienceand adventure and allowing my
giving myself the permission tobe more of that kind of person.
(43:53):
And that's what I'm working onclearing beliefs for them.
And you know like cause there'smany of them.
You know there, there's many ofthem that I've been really
checking in with since I was onthat deck that morning and
trying to figure out where in mylife did I turn?
Because I used to be.
Everybody talked about me.
I was that kid that bouncedaround.
(44:14):
I was always laughing.
I remember my teacher tellingmy dad one time in one of my
parent-teacher conferences thathe's got to learn to be a little
serious every now and then.
Because, I was always crackingjokes.
I was making everybody laugh.
I was the class clown as theywould call you.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
You can still get stuff done and be that.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Right, and here's another thing that popped in my
head.
On that deck the other day was,there was this kid I'm going to
call him Randy who was in highschool.
He was the epitome ofirresponsibility, according to
everybody else's perception.
You know he got caught smokingweed behind the gym.
He, you know he got suspendedmultiple times because he acted
up, didn't do homework, blah,blah, blah, blah blah.
(44:54):
But he was a really fun guy tobe around, right.
And I remember one time when hegot in trouble in the hallway
and our principal said, lookedhim dead in the eye and said you
know, your life is going to beso rough if you don't straighten
up.
And he said my life's going tobe as fun as I allow it to be.
And he, of course he got introuble for backtalking back to
the principal and blah blah,blah, blah.
(45:15):
You know what he is now.
He's a multimillionaire, ofcourse, and still the same guy.
Yeah, um, and we, you know,like I, I went to, uh, my old
high school and I stopped by andI seen the sign as I went by,
because I'm not gonna say hislast name, but there was this
thing that said his last nameoil company and supply.
(45:38):
I was like, hmm, and it broughtto my reality, is that is that
him?
And so I turn around on thehighway and I turn and go back
and I pull in and, sure enough,there he is still, the spitting
image of what he looked like inhigh school, yeah, and I was
like, well, hey, randy what is?
going on.
Is this yours?
(46:00):
I mean, it was this hugecompany.
He was in the last little suitand he was sitting there playing
with legos on his desk.
He wasn't creating a legostructure, yeah, and I was like,
wow, what are you doing now?
And he had started doing oilpipe supply and then ended up in
the oil business and you know,he just he said, I just continue
(46:21):
to follow my adventurousthoughts yeah, that's exactly
what you know, because that'swhat I keep putting out there.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
If you continue to follow the next piece of joy or
excitement, you'll get therestep by step by step by step.
And I actually asked him beingserious or being responsible,
piss off, he said.
Send that out the window.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I said so you know what kind of you know what are
you doing next?
What's after this?
And he said nope, this is itfor me.
And he said I'm just going tosit here and play and enjoy life
and work three days a week andstill control my company, but
I'm going to go have some fun.
And that's what he does.
I mean, he's got a pilot'slicense.
We went to his house.
(47:09):
He had this huge mansion andyou know what?
He created a basement and hisentire basement was nothing but
stuff for him to play aroundwith.
It was booze, ball tables,movie theater, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah this whole sabang.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
And so he wasn't living a life of I can have this
or that, I can have it all, Ican have this and that.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Right.
He said I live how did he putit that day.
I think I live withoutrestrictions of thought.
Something he said, something tothat extent.
And then of course it was kindof cool to see him and hang out
a little bit and listen to him,but it didn't really absorb into
me.
When I created my business andI created my company I was being
(47:57):
too serious because that beliefof being taught when I was a
young kid by one of my uncles ofyou know was stuck in and
embedded in there, braided rightinto my hair.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
It was.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yes, it was.
I'm working on removing that.
That's what I'm working on.
That's what I'm trying to say.
I'm wanting you to quit judgingme.
No, that's what I'm saying I'mworking on.
That's why it's in my realityis because I want to be that un.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Irresponsible person.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
The unrestricted thought.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I think that was a good way for him to.
I challenge you to beirresponsible.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah, that's you know .
I want to get to that point of.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Never face reality and be completely irresponsible.
And see what happens.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Well, maybe I'll get there.
I'm trying, that's what I'mdoing.
I'm working on that.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Anyway, I'm never facing reality and I'm always
irresponsible.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Well, I guess you create balance for me, but
anyway I feel complete, do youfeel?
Complete, and I hope they gotsomething out of this for me.
I always feel complete.
Do you feel complete?
And I hope they got somethingout of this for me because this
podcast was more about me, Ithink, than anybody, and I I
hope that somebody got somethingout of it.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Indeed, I'm sure they did so you feel complete,
somebody did somewhere all rightguys.
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