August 7, 2025 • 55 mins
Facing a new venture brings unexpected challenges, and sometimes our greatest obstacle isn't the task itself, but the lurking fear that we might not be capable. This deeply personal episode explores what happens when self-doubt creeps in during life transitions and new business endeavors.
When setting up a new online store, James confronted the nagging voice suggesting an "old dog" might struggle with new technological tricks, especially after years of health challenges affecting cognitive function. This vulnerability opens a fascinating discussion about how fear manifests physically – from shaky fingers at the keyboard to second-guessing basic skills we've taken for granted.
Meanwhile, the couple's transition to RV living provides a perfect metaphor for navigating uncharted territory. They share practical discoveries about motorhome maintenance and design solutions that nobody tells beginners about, revealing how conquering each small challenge builds confidence for the next. Their experiences are even inspiring a new business venture specifically aimed at helping other RV newcomers avoid common pitfalls.
The conversation takes a provocative turn when examining how spiritual communities often perpetuate toxic positivity, expecting practitioners to float above human emotions. The hosts call out this "unicorn farts and fairies" approach, arguing that authentic spiritual growth comes not from denying emotions but from honestly acknowledging them. This refreshing perspective particularly resonates when discussing how men are culturally conditioned to view fear as weakness, creating elaborate disguises to avoid naming their apprehensions.
By the end, a clear pathway emerges: identify your fear, call it exactly what it is without sugar-coating, examine the beliefs fueling it, and imagine life without this limitation. This episode isn't just about conquering technical challenges – it's about reclaiming your power from the fears that would keep you playing small.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Thank you.
Good morning, Dr Jenny.
We're back on the SpiritualGrind podcast again.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
How are you this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I am stupendously fabuloso.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Is that a one word?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I think like it's two words, two words.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I was going to try to figure out how to spell it If
it was one word.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I feel like it's two oh.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Okay, well.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I am fantastic, living the dream Indeed.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Living the dream Indeed.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Living the dream.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Working on getting healed up, starting our own
stuff.
Feels good to work for yourselfagain.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
But in that brings up my subject actually.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh, you have a subject.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
You have a topic.
I do have a topic.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
My favorite.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So, as you know, Sounds juicy and everybody else
is going to know soon Is we arestarting our own online store.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes, along with many other.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yes, I'm working on an app and a bunch of other
stuff A lot of things working.
Books, books, tarot cards,oracle cards.
We're working on it, we got itgoing.
Got it going on right now.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We do.
We've got a lot of things going.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
But what that brought up for me was a little bit of a
fear.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh, of the old cliche .
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Wow, that's an old one for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And it kind of popped up in my reality a little bit
that I couldn't handle learninghow to do all of this and and
create it online and it was alittle bit of a you know, like
holy cow, you know, and gettingpast the fear of screwing it all
up right, yep, yep was a littlebit of a challenge for me
really it was.
I know you might not have seenit, but it was a little scary
for me, like I'm gonna screwthis whole thing up and we're
(02:49):
gonna end up with owen,ukrainian taxes and a whole
bunch other yeah no, I didn'tsee it.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The only thing I saw was when you tried to put the
merc store on the, the websiteon there.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, I screwed that up, it was a little bit of a
glitch.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So, you kind of brought that into your reality,
and now I know why.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Because once you put it on there, you can't take it
off unless you create anotherplace to have a domain, and so
that's where my challenge is,and so now I've got to create a
landing page so I can use thatas the domain and remove the
Merck from it so we canreestablish the Merck.
And then, on the Merck, I'mgoing to create a hyperlink that
goes to the store, and so it'sa little bit of a weird thing
(03:39):
for me.
Yeah, because I can do.
We have a store on the merc,you know we have the store
capabilities, and so I could do.
I could use the link for thestore to go to the shopify store
, and so that's.
It's going to be a little bitof a challenging evening for
afternoon for me today yeahbecause now I've got to create a
(03:59):
whole new landing page.
You know which is not hard.
I can.
You know pretty much.
Now ai does it all and I can golike do a free landing, single
page landing, you know like onwix or something but in the
process of all of this, whycan't you do that through
godaddy?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
why isn't there already a landing page to
receive the merc center back?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
no, no, it's not.
No, the Merck center is stillthere.
It's not that.
It's the fact that it won't letme take the Merck center off
unless I create another domainand restore the Merck center
back to what it was.
It's the oddest thing.
It's one of their littleglitches, or uh, you know I I
searched it and asked the helpcenter and it said that it's
(04:42):
something that Shopify is tryingto redevelop.
But once you put a domain onthere, you can't take it off
without having another domain.
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
But you do have another domain.
It's called the Merck Center.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I can't use it because it'll
take over the Merck Center likeit did.
It takes over the whole webpageand all it does is let the
Merck Center webpage justdoesn't exist.
Does is let the Merck.
Center webpage just doesn'texist.
Okay, it just creates anotherplace for the store.
So when you go type inwwwthemerckcentersorg, it comes
up to the Salty Tarot Shopifystore.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, I know, I was there whenever you discovered it
.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, but now I can't take that off of the Shopify
account without creating anotherlanding page.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I just haven't figured out how to do it.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Well, that's what I've been researching since
yesterday.
Yeah, you'll get it figured out, but anyway.
So it created a fear for me andof being able to maintain
retain, especially with all thehealth stuff we've went through
the last three years.
You know it's.
It's created a little bit ofintellectual doubt in me, and
(05:53):
you know cause.
There there were days Icouldn't remember words, names.
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I mean that's a old pattern.
I mean that's a old pattern.
If you want to keep embracingit and bringing it to this
bubble and this reality, that'syour business, girl.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
That's just it.
I don't want to Shall.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I pull a sassy card for you.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Perhaps, maybe, but no, it's not that I want to
bring it into it, it's just thatit it popped up on me.
It was like one of thosesurprise things.
Like you know, I would sit downon the computer, I'm like I'm
going to do this and guess whathappened?
I get a little, a little bitshaky finger typing and I was
like dang, what's going on withthat?
(06:39):
Do a little break.
Walked outside and like why areyou scared of this?
Yeah, I mean.
I mean so you screwed up.
You have a son that can fix it,and so that's where I'm at with
it.
And I've been really clear onthat for the last couple days
and making myself aware that,hey, you know what, I what?
(07:03):
I am a pretty smart guy, I canhandle this Absolutely.
Just because I've had moldbrain for the last three years
doesn't mean that I can have itnow.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It doesn't mean that you have to continue with the
mold brain.
I agree you can be done with it.
We're in a nice, cleanenvironment.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So I love our environment, by the way, Bali
body's healing environment.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I love our environment, by the way.
Bali body's healing.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
What I love our little environment.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I do like our little bubble.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
In case y'all didn't know, we have moved into our
motorhome.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I don't know if it's permanent or temporary or
whatever it is, but I'm likingit.
I'm liking the lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Because that's going to be my next store is a
beginner RV store for thosethings that people don't know,
that they realize that they need.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Because there's nobody out there that teaches
you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Right, and not only that, but you go to the RV
stores and it's kind of like allthe same stuff and it's kind of
like all the same stuff andlike we kind of had to figure
out.
Me, like from a decoratingstandpoint, kind of kind of had
to figure out okay, when I'mmobile, what happens to this
(08:19):
stuff?
When I'm not mobile, whathappens to it?
What do I have?
What's the space?
Look like that.
I have to decorate.
What kind of decorations can Ibuy as far as hanging?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
on the wall versus sitting on counter space yeah,
because in a motorhome you can'tjust put screws on the wall
like you do in a house rightbecause, especially if it's on
moving parts, yeah, and you havelimited, like counter space as
well.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So it's not beneficial to just go to
Kirkland's and buy every littletchotchke, knickknack thing.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Even though I think you did.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Peeling, because then you like are looking around
saying okay, well, what counterspace do I have that I can set
that on?
So I mean, even like, with ouroffice space, the printer I'm
sitting here looking at theprinter and you had to build a
(09:19):
shelf that takes the dash andmorphs it into a computer table.
Quite ingenious, I might add.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, worked out quite well.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I do agree, and so being able to look at the
different spaces and reform theminto.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And knowing that you have to do all this when you may
have to close up at any time,right.
Or decide to close up at anytime right or decide to close up
yeah, they have to be removableparts and pieces for transport
and we got it down pretty goodwe could.
We can close her down in lessthan an hour, I think yeah, I
think we've got it down prettypat decorations and all yeah,
(09:59):
but it's been a.
It's you this kind?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
of actually Guess what, what Chicken butt.
If we decide that we're tiredof this scenery, we can
literally Just pack up and gosomewhere else.
Pack up and move up the roadfor different scenery, just
because we freaking can.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You know this must be a fear podcast, because when we
did this too, it gave me alittle bit of a fear, as well,
when we did what?
When we moved into themotorhome and come over here to
Daytona.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Because that fear of you know the unknown kind of
came up too.
You know, I don't know what Idon't know about these things.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Right and so through lots of research and stuff I
have discovered that it's notthat hard.
No, it's not that.
Basically, two systems.
I know even less than you do.
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, let's do it it, uh it, but it's.
It's been a, it's been a funjourney and there are things
that you need that nobody tellsyou yeah and I think that store
and that's going to be the nextdoor open is the beginner rv rvr
store, because the rv life isfun.
It really is.
Yeah, and you know I thought itwould be.
(11:20):
Everybody look at you likeyou're crazy, you know.
But the people that live inthese rv parks, I mean, they do
it, man, they live it you know,they're living it and do it.
They set up their little patiosand they still have it where
they can break it all down andtake it with them that's right,
that's right but uh, it's been.
It's been a fun experience sofar and I'm really enjoying it
(11:42):
and conquered that fear.
Um, you know, I think there'sstill some things I'm going to
learn along the way, you know,but I'm open to it and retaining
it all that's what we do, Likethe LP gas.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, your last exploration was figuring out
okay how do we feel about?
Packing this thing up anddriving it down to the thing,
and what you found out is thatthere's a type of kit that you
can put together where you fillit from one of those little
tanks.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Right, yeah, no, you just hook a little tank up to it
and you swap it out when youneed it, and then next time
you're out on the road you stopand fill your big tank, and so
it's like you hook up the kit toit and then you take a regular
barbecue propane tank and hookit to that, and then when that
gets empty you just take thatdown and fill it and bring it
(12:35):
back and hook it up, and so it's.
You don't have to move the wholemotor home and it's uh, and you
can get any size tank for thatyou want.
They have big ones, little ones.
You know there's some peoplethat make them permanent?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Do you have to have a table for it to sit on?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
No, the hose comes down and goes down below and
comes out and sits on the ground.
Or you can, like a lot ofpeople, put them in milk crates.
I've seen around.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Because I was thinking if it blows over and
pulls the hose off or becomes anigniting propellant.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Those hoses are tough .
They're thick and tough.
But you know, like I've seen,there's one guy I've seen that
he has a secondary tank.
He bought one of those flatracks that goes into your
receiver and he has a secondarytank sitting on that that's
strapped to the motorhome and ahose that comes up and hooks to
that.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I see.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And so when he wants it he just unhooks the tank,
puts it down, puts it back inthe truck, goes, fills it and
comes back and we don't use alot of gas.
We've been doing this now sinceFebruary on the same tank Right
, and we still got half a tankleft.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I see.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
But there is going to be a time where I'm going to
have to do it and hook up thelittle kit to it Right, right,
right.
What's that kit is going to bea kit that I'm going to put on
the beginner RVer store, becauseI knew nothing about it until
another guy told me.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Right yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I think that's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Taking all the information and putting it in
one easy location where you canfind.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Stuff you don't know that you need.
Like I had no clue I was evergoing to need a freaking little
voltmeter.
Didn't have, didn't even thinkabout it, wasn't even on my mind
.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
And everything you find online is about travel
trailers.
It's not about actualmotorhomes.
Yeah, and everything you findonline is about travel trailers.
It's not about actualmotorhomes.
Yeah, and I mean, there are acouple of people that we follow
and that I follow and watchtheir videos, but even they
don't talk about what it is thatyou really need.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
What is your necessity?
Yeah, they just talk abouttheir life and those kind of
things, and would you considerthe necessity necessity kit
whether you have a brand new oneor a used one, or is it
primarily for used one or?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
both, and I think it's both.
I mean that what you need in amotorhome is what you need the
motor I see, you know, like eventhe new motorhomes, like we
have the biggest propane lp tankthat you can have in a
motorhome legally.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I see.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And so those new units, brand new units, still
going to have that size tankRight and if you set up for any
period of time, you know youcould run out of propane.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Which in turn heats your water.
You know, runs your stoveinside if you you want it.
Your heater, if you have afloor heater like we do, you
know, yeah it we.
Of course we live in florida,so who needs a heater?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
but I like my floor heater.
You keep it very cold in here,so being able to step on a warm
floor is quite delicious rightlike like.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Another thing that that I learned that you need,
that a lot of people don't eventhink of, is chemical is coil
cleaner, because your airconditioners, if you're going to
clean them yourself or you'regoing to pay the 600 bucks for
somebody else to come do it,which I myself would clean them
myself you know that you have tohave a certain kind of coil
cleaner because if if you usethe chemical one, it can ruin
(16:07):
your roof.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Ah, I see.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And so there's little things that I've learned that
you have to do.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Little tips and tricks.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Like the seal foam.
You know the seals for theslide outs.
You know you have to treatthose once every three, four
months or so, otherwise they getbad.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And everything will start leaking.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Didn't know.
Nobody taught us that.
Well, I know that if I wasgoing to add something, it would
be a heated potty seat, so thatmy commode lid, when I go to
sit on it, is not a refrigeratedice cube.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And there are plugs by the toilet In this arctic box
that I live in as.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I side eye my husband who keeps the air conditioner
on.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I feel like 42 yeah, don't go that low, but we do
keep it cool in here.
We have to, otherwise it getsreally hot in the day you have a
mouse in your pocket.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
If we turn it down in the middle of the day, it does
get warm in here very quicklycan you imagine what it would be
in one of those other unitsthat don't have the central air
in the top, because the heatcoming through the ceiling would
be astronomical yeah, it wouldbe probably quite uncomfortable
and we have the white reflectiveroof on this thing.
(17:27):
So if people don't have thatholy cow, that's one thing I
would suggest as well is, whenyou buy a motorhome, put the
white reflective roof on it, orthey make a roll-on stuff that
you can get.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So apparently there's a lot of people out there that
needed motorhome tips and tricks.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Apparently.
That's what this is turned intono, it started out about my
fear.
Yeah, it started out about myfear of learning and and what
I've discovered over the lastfew days setting up these stores
well, that's really the subjectsetting up this shopify store
for the american, for us, is, isthat you know what I can do it
still.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
And man do I love AI.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I would just remind everybody and we talked about
this on previous podcasts youdon't have to know what the
whole journey looks like.
You literally find the nextenjoyable thing in the
headlights.
And what does that mean?
That means remember I said youknow, when you're driving down
(18:27):
the road at night, you can't seenecessarily the whole road or
the whole scenery.
You're going 55, 60, 70 milesan hour only being able to see
that 200 feet in front of you.
What is that measurement?
100 feet from the headlights?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
um.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
It all depends on your lights you're literally
going down the highway on yourjourney.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
However far you can see within the headlights you
have no idea what's on the otherside of the process.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
yeah, trusting the journey and Trusting the journey
and if you could take thatmetaphor and bring it into your
life on a daily basis and justtrusting what's in the now and
doing the next best thing from aplace of this is what's most
(19:24):
enjoyable, like yesterday,yesterday was a little bit of
difficult day for me because Ididn't feel good yeah as we
still are in that healingprocess.
There's some days where it'sjust a physical health challenge
for me and well for both, thatwas I can only speak for me
right I got up yesterday notfeeling good at all and I was
(19:47):
like, okay, well, I'm working ontrying to get the Oracle cards
finished up, I'm going to justpush through and I wasn't
listening to my body andhonoring what I needed.
So I come to the computer tofinish editing and the computer
absolutely will not participate.
It wouldn't save my changes.
(20:09):
It was just a tangled up hotmess, and so Spirit was like
nope.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Not today, Batman.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
We are not doing this today, and so all I could find
in that moment that was morejoyful than what I was doing was
to just honor my body and golay down.
And that's what felt good.
That's what it's about when Isay, find the next joyful thing,
(20:38):
I'm not saying you've got to goout and go roller skating or
play dodgeball.
I'm saying if the only thingyou can find in that moment that
feels better than what you'redoing currently is to go lay
down and take a nap, honor that,do that.
(21:01):
That is the next joyful thing.
That's the energy that you'retapping into, and it doesn't
have to look a certain way.
That was part of what I wastrying to pull across on the
last podcast we did when we wentdown the rabbit hole about
(21:23):
humanness.
The spiritual world tends tohave this perspective that if
you're awakened and you'refollowing your spiritual journey
, it's supposed to look acertain way, and that's not at
all what it's about.
So, following that joy,whatever it is, it may be taking
(21:45):
a nap.
It may be eating chocolate icecream.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Whatever that looks like Giving yourself permission.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
She actually named the two things that she loves to
do.
You know, this spiritual worldhas fallen into this rut and we
you and I were kind of talkingabout this this morning and we
you and I were kind of talkingabout this this morning of they
feel like that if you're notwoohoo and unicorn farts and
fairies flying around you andbutterflies landed on your nose,
then you're not living thejourney.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It's more of a expectation, yeah, behaving in a
certain way.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
You know they're labeling it and you actually had
a really good analogy about howit's okay for some religions to
go out and get drunk onSaturday night and go to church
on Sunday morning becausethey're forgiven of their sins,
and it's the kind of thespiritual world has kind of
fallen into that same habit.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Right.
We're forgiven for our behaviorbecause we were being human.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
That's correct.
It's just a cop out.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It is as the salty sassy tarot as well.
You know.
Let's call it what it is.
Yes, that's the spiritualcommunity that created that tag
phrase just being human as acop-out for a societal judgment
or self-judgment of not beingperfect or not being balanced in
(23:09):
my emotions or grounded, andthe reality of it is is that
we're spiritual beings who havecome to this playground to have
human interaction, experiencesand emotions, and if I'm
freaking pissed off, then I'mpissed off.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Own it, honor it, own it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It doesn't mean that you came here to get to that
divinely guided, enlightenedplace to sit in the meditative
position and have no negativereaction to the shit going on
around you.
(23:55):
And that's what we bring as thespiritual grinders.
That's what we mean by that.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
The spiritual grinders.
I like it, the grinders.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
The grinders, the spiritual grinders.
Let's call it real man.
Sometimes the journey is a tripand not in a good way, and
sometimes I get pissed off andsometimes I have the f the world
mentality and sometimes we getscared.
Sometimes I sit in the ownposition and meditate yeah
(24:26):
sometimes I am balanced in myemotions because I have given
that part of life no meaning,because it doesn't really have
any meaning.
Right, you know there's reasonsbehind all of it.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Right there's.
You know we're there, like,like, sometimes emotions are
bringing up things that you needto look at from old history,
and sometimes emotions are justbringing in stuff to bring to
your awareness.
And sometimes actions are justbringing in stuff to bring to
your awareness and sometimesactions are the same thing.
You know, you know we may like.
You made the analogy thismorning of you know you run
across the Karen and you cheerout.
(25:00):
You know that was an action,physically, humanly, emotionally
, verbally.
You know it's all it, that's anaction and we have to allow
ourselves to have those actions,those emotions, those and own
them.
Like me being fearful of doingall this stuff, I have to own
that.
If I don't own it, it's goingto keep popping up and I'm going
(25:23):
to keep screwing things upthat's right.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You're going to keep holding that vibrational
frequency and that's where youget that.
Um, we've mentioned this aswell, that's where you get that.
Uh, reciprocated energy flow.
Okay, you've got that energy of.
Okay, I'm gonna fuck somethingup.
Well, here's another heapingspoonful of it, and that's when
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your reality begins to startmirroring that energy flow to
you.
Unless you own it and thingsfuck up left and right.
Left and right, it's like okay,what the hell else is going to
happen?
I said the F word Maybe weshould bleep that out.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I don't know, I don't know Well the editor handled it
.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Freedom of speech, I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
That's how the whole mechanism works.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And trying to be this some kind of perfect in it.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, it's like everybody thinks everybody's
supposed to be at peace all thetime and not have any outwardly
emotions.
And to me it's like thatdoesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
This is not fucking Krispy Kreme.
Take the sugar coating off thedamn donut.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Isn't that what Krispy Kreme is?
It's pretty much all sugarcoating.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It is, but life is not that.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And even their dough is like 100% sugar and
spiritually awakenedness is notlike that I agree.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I'm here to tell you.
And anybody that wants tochallenge me on that let's
debate.
We can definitely debate.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
We can, we can.
You can call in and we can havea debate on the air.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
We can or we can just talk about your topic.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
You can choose the debater, but I, you know, dr
Jenny is a master debater.
A the debater yes, but Dr Jennyis a master debater.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
A master debater.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
She can debate quite well.
She's mastered the debatingpart.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I have mastered the debating.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
You master debater.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I'm a master debater.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
That's a T-shirt.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That is a T-shirt.
That is a t-shirt, that is at-shirt.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
That is.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, we would love to have people call in.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Maybe let's put the phone number to the thing in the
description on this podcast Ifpeople want to call in.
Uh, we do currently.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
We do our podcasts on Saturdays and Wednesdays yeah,
and we can set it up he's, Ijust need to know in advance.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
That way we can have it set up, cause I have to
Bluetooth everything together.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And so yeah, if somebody wants to call in and
discuss a topic that would be ustaking the podcast to a whole
different level yeah it would befun.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Oh, I guess your cat wants to talk yeah, so maybe
take your phone out and grab apicture, for oh, too late she's
done.
She says no pictures today.
Yeah, so maybe take your phoneout and grab a picture for.
Oh too late, she's done.
She says no pictures today.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
You can't afford my fee.
She don't like pictures anymore.
She used to sit and pose forthem.
She don't do it anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, you say picture .
Speaker 1 (28:45):
And she runs.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I feel like she who doesn't know she's a cat.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
she not only has a watch, but she knows what we're
saying 6.57 yesterday she waswalking towards the kitchen to
get her treats at 7.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, we call them candy bars.
We have two cats.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And somehow they always know when it's 7 o'clock.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And somehow they always know when it's 5 o'clock
and they want to wake me up.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
In the morning.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I think they do have a watch or they can read the
clock they get up at their beckand call.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's interesting, they don't wake me up.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, I wonder why that is.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Because I refuse to honor their request.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
And you get up and Well, that's just me, though,
and I get woke up, and if I'mawake.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I can't go back to sleep.
It can be you if you want it tobe.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I have a hard time going back to sleep once
somebody wakes me up.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
And you can continue to walk that path.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, but it's been kind of.
Do you want me to?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
draw a sassy oracle for you.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
A salty tarot card for you.
No, I don't need one of thoseright now.
I have enough I'm dealing withright now.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
But you see how I tied it right back in a while
ago and you didn't used to giveme props for that.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I gave you props in my mind.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Way to tie that back in.
But the uh, the fear behind allof it and the emotions that we
have in this virtual worldpeople.
They view that in a in anegative way when it's part of
being human.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
It's definitely part of the construct.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, I mean we have to have emotions.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Without emotions, we would all just be robots doing
the same exact thing well, therewould be no point for the
mission yeah, that's totallyright you're not going to honor
your emotions because that'syour guidance system and see
them as uh transformationaltools for growth yep yep, then
you might as well call it and goback to your spiritual self.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
And we must master the transformation AKA suicide
what?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Pull the plug, man, if you're not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
That was a little salty.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
That was a little too salty A little too salty.
Okay, listen, that was a littletoo far out there.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I'm not telling anybody to go.
You know, take their own life.
It was a joke.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Just deal with your crap, Like do your homework and
deal with your crap and honorwhere you're at.
Because I'm here to tell you,if we don't start recognizing
the emotion and we don't take itout of the proverbial closet
and experience the emotion,it'll come back.
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It will come back every time,every time, every time.
It'll keep getting triggered,that button will keep getting
pushed.
You'll keep getting more of thecrap that you don't want.
And I just tell it like it isman, deal with it.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, I totally agree , and we, as humans have a
tendency to store that stuff upand you know you brought up a
very uncomfortable topic andthat is suicide.
And we all know that the numberone cause of suicide is
emotional distress and thenumber one cause of people doing
stupid things that get themlocked up or whatever, is
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emotional distress or fear.
And it's all emotions.
All of our actions are dictatedby emotions.
That's our guidance system andwhen we get emotions that are
out of control and we don'tidentify and own them and face
them, like you just said, it cancause us to make stupid
decisions and do stupid things.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
That box is going to overfill and your system is
going to fry right and it'sgoing to either cause a complete
and total shutdown, meltdown,or it's going to cause a
complete and total explosion,existential crisis in a very big
way.
(32:57):
Yes, totally Eventually you'lldeal with them.
Yeah, one way or another.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
You will, and doing it the fun way is the best way.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Well, it certainly is more comfortable.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, more definitely , because it is fun to conquer.
Yeah, more definitely, and itincreases your self-worth when
you can learn to interact withyour emotions and own them and
transform the fears, the anger,even the happiness, into more
happiness.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Well, that's right, because you know, in identifying
that, there is an emotionalguidance system which we talk
about a lot, and it's in my book.
I even did a complete chart,scripted from within, which is
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now out and on Kindle and Amazon.
Yeah, it gives you a way ofidentifying the emotions so that
you can acknowledge what theyare and embrace them.
You cannot believe how manypeople are out there that can't
even differentiate anxiety fromanger or boredom or they don't
know what they're feeling.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
What I like about the book is you tell people what to
do with it too, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
And getting to know what that language is and
identifying it is part of theexploration, part of the fun.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
If you can get to a place where you're looking at it
like that and then when you'rehaving that emotion, once you
identify that you have emotions,yikes.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Instead of robotically setting them aside.
And I have no emotions.
It is what it is everything isfine Realizing that you have the
emotions.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
That was my robot sound.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Coming to meet George Jetson, his robot Rosie.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
His boy Elroy.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Tell me you're old without telling me you're old
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
A lot of people don't even know what we're talking
about.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Coswell's Cogs.
Yeah, that's where Georgeworked.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
And he hated his job he did he would always watch the
clock so he'd get off work andjump out the window into his
flying car yeah, exactly and youknew.
Do you know that that wassupposed to be in the year 2000?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
oh, on the cartoon that was considered.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
That's what it would look like in the year 2000 yep I
did not know that yeah, thatactually popped up on my feed
the other day wow one of ourfellow people that are our age
said fun fact did you know thatthe jetsons the year was
supposed to be the year 2000 inthe script.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
And he also brought up something else.
Star Trek was supposed to be in2020.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Oh really.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, I was like wow, that's kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, for sure, Boy were we behind.
We are a little behind,according to those things.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, we all know that there's things out there
that they're not telling usthere are.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
But what a, what a you know bringing up that topic.
What a movie last night.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I don't remember what we watched.
Remember the journey to thebottom of the journey to the
center of the earth thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What an interesting movie.
How can we have seen thatbefore?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I don't know, I don't even know how I it, but there's
a number two as well.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
We're going to have to watch that one, but it was.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I'm very surprised because I watch those kind of
movies all the time.
I had never even heard of it.
I maybe have heard of it.
I have a vague recollection.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
You know how that ties into this podcast.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
How.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Because they conquered fears and emotions
during it a lot.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
And it was a.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It was a big tie-in.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It's one of those rabbit hole topics no pun
intended that you kind of had inthe back of your head most of
your life.
After reading that book,journey to the Center of the
Earth.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
You know, I read that book back in what six or seven
grade, I don't remember, foreverago I never heard of it oh, it
was, it was assigned.
And you know, like he said, itwas assigned to me to read on my
summer reading.
It was assigned to us duringschool.
We had to read that one.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
It was in the same class, as you know hamlet and
romeo and juliet, and yeah, youknow the beauty of being a gypsy
kid I would get to one schooland they would have already done
their writing assignment and Iwould go to the next school and
they hadn't started theirreading assignment.
So a lot of those books thatyou guys who stayed in the same
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school all the time had to read,like moby dick, oh yeah I hated
that book.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
That was the longest, most terribly written book in
existence.
I think I didn't have to dothose.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Because I would leave the school and the next school
I went to had already donetheirs.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
For the semester or the year.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
So you got lucky.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I don't remember doing any of those.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
So did you experience the emotion of disappointment
in that?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
No, but you know, I am a reader anyway.
Yeah, I read my own stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Even back then I was a quantum physics kind of kid.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, not me.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I had already thought about multiverse and the what
ifs.
Even back then I was adaydreaming kind of kid that
already thought about the stringtheory.
I just wasn't calling it thator the multiverse or any of that
, but when I tried to talk aboutit, the adults around me would
(39:12):
say, I should put that downsince house.
What a, what a very strange,peculiar kid you have I'm gonna
take you to the psychiatrist.
You need help no, they wouldn'tsay it to me, they would
whisper it to my father or mygrandmother.
What a very strange kid that isyeah, you know my, my, because I
was bringing thoughts to ageneration that didn't even have
(39:36):
the ability to let their mindconceptually go to those places
yeah, it was crazy I canremember in kindergarten I wrote
this um little story and it waskind of about that etherical
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realm where the dead people liveand the angels live.
Yeah, and I actually had ateacher that must have been
pretty open, because she gave menot only an A on the paper and
extra points but really pattedme on the back for being so
(40:18):
creative and doing such goodwriting.
I remembered that.
It ingrained very deeply in mewhat an amazingly beautiful
story and um you know, one of mybaby book stories brought it
home for my parents to read.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
And my female.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
My, my female parent didn't find it as interesting as
my teacher did, and I'm noteven sure what she even did with
it, but I was like, okay, well,I don't need you my teacher
thinks it's cool, so yeah off.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
She liked it anyway, you know the?
Uh, I had in my baby book astory that I wrote like in six
or seven, maybe eighth gradeyeah it's in my baby book still,
and it was about alien, alienabduction.
It's in the baby book.
I don't know where it is.
I think it's probably in thefile cabinet now.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
But the baby my baby book, yeah, I don't remember
having a baby book I remember amanila envelope with a bunch of
shoved in it where is that babybook?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I don't know interesting, but the my in my
baby book is the story aboutalien abductions that I wrote
and I got 105 on it nice andbecause it was, uh, uh, it was
something we had to write forthe writing competition at the
county fair.
Yeah, for literary class, forliterature.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I see.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
And and she entered them all in the county fair.
I didn't even get.
I get.
I was the highest scoredwriting that went to the fair
and I didn't and didn't even gethonorable mention Nothing,
because all the people judge it.
Yeah, you were before your timeyeah, and now there's tv shows
about all this that's crazy, kid.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
What are you talking about?
You probably touched on a topicthat was very nervy and they
were like you're nothighlighting this topic
absolutely not we're cramming itback in that uh, cia, what they
call it, whenever it's not forit hasn't been disclosed.
It's private stuff that theydon't let you read.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Oh, classified, classified, yep.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
The classified crap.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
That's where it ended up.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yeah, probably it ended up in the CIA classified
file and they're researchingstuff.
That's where it ended up.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, probably it ended up in the CIA classified
file and they researched stuffand they're watching you.
What did they call that whenthey researched?
And they just released thatinformation?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Declassified.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, they just declassified that information
from Well, maybe your story thatyou wrote will surface out of
the.
Maybe, Declassification.
Maybe who knows.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
By the way, here's James Emery's little story.
He wrote back in 19 and 22.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
85.
I'm not that old, yeah, no, andthe crazy part is I got entered
that same year.
I remember this quite wellbecause I'd had the literature
entry into the county fair.
And then I also had an artpicture that I didn't score high
(43:40):
on at all.
It was of a little vulturethat's framed, you've seen it,
and I actually won first placefor that.
Oh my, my goodness, I got ablue ribbon for that.
And when my art teacher didn'tgive me any score on it at all,
and it gets entered in thecounty fair.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I actually get a blue ribbon.
Your art teacher was likeside-eyeing you with a smirk on
his face.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, I was like, and so it was a.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Little Jimmy, this is I can actually draw.
You could have done probably alittle better with this vulture
thing.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah, you said something about my shadows and
my eyes were off.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
And then you take it to the fair, I take it to the
fair and the judges score me, Iget a blue ribbon from it.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Matter of fact, it's in that yellow, that blue ribbon
is, in that yellow middleenvelope that you found and they
took that character and theymade those cartoons.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Remember that cartoon about those two vultures?
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Well, those cartoons Remember that cartoon about
those two vultures?
Well, that's kind of what Iwrote it.
That cartoon was out already.
That's kind of where I drew itfrom, was kind of that.
Because we couldn't look atpictures, you had to draw that
from memory.
That was one of the challengesof the art class.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
And he made mention of no background, because all I
did was have a branch coming outof nowhere, and then a vulture
sitting on it.
Ah, I see.
And I drew it all in pencil andshaded it and he told me my
shading was off and I was like,no, it ain't, because the sun's
coming from this way, but anyway, so I cannot draw.
Yeah, it was fun.
I can actually draw pretty goodwhen I really want to.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
I agree, but it has to be, I have to be in the mood
for it.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah, I agree, but my artwork can be very animated
sometimes, but anyway, so whatwas the topic again?
Conquering my fears.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Conquering fears, that is a definite big one.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, you know, it is the emotional guidance system.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Fear does keep us from doing a lot of things, and
things that we don't evenrealize are Fear based Enjoyable
.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, totally, totally.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I mean, if you keep yourself from going and trying
something, then you never getthe opportunity to decide
whether or not you actually likeit, correct, until you go out
and you do it and you're like,oh, you know what, that wasn't
so bad.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
It's like all those adventurous Christmas presents
we gave out.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah.
And then you're like oh, youknow what I kind of like that I
want to do it again.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I could never do that .
They're all fearful of it, butanyway, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I think the first step is recognizing that you
have a fear.
Totally agree, because fear canbe dressed up in many different
things.
Like we as humans feel likebeing fearful of something is
(46:34):
weak.
Yes, especially the male genre,if they have fear of something,
getting them to be accountablefor the fear, almost like it
seems to tap on their manhood.
Men are not supposed to befearful.
They're weak if they're fearful.
I find that in my work withclients in the male genre.
(46:58):
But recognizing that you'rehaving this feeling and then
coming to a place where you canactually say what it truly is
and not disguising it as no,it's, it's not fear, it's me.
I get a lot of that, yeah, andI'm like nope, that's still fear
(47:21):
, doesn't matter whether youcall it rainbow shit unicorn
chocolate ice cream unicornfarts, it still has a root seed
of fear.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Fear, I agree.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
And that's you know, and as a man.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
so let me touch on that for some, because you said
it right as a man, you're onlyweak when you don't face your
fears and own them and recognizethem.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Right, that's what makes you weak.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Right, that's what makes you weak, because now the
fear has conquered you, andyou're not supposed to have a
fear, and so you ignore it.
Right and your men will come upwith all sorts of creative ways
to avoid handling a fear.
Owning a fear, even evenacknowledging saying the word
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owning a fear, even evenacknowledging saying the word oh
yeah, it's, uh, it's.
You know, and that's somethingthat I like to bring to the
awareness in this virtual worldof with that we live in, is men
can be manly and do all themanly things and still have
emotions, have do what I do andsay whatever you want.
Because if, if anybody judgesyou for what and who you, if
you're you being you, that's onthem Right Because of their
(48:37):
fears and their emotions andtheir ridiculous beliefs.
Yeah, because we can do and saywhat and be whatever we want to
be, it doesn't change ourmanliness.
Matter of fact, what changesand makes us stronger men is we,
when we can do things that weview as makes you weaker.
When you can accomplish thatand you view it in a belief
(48:59):
system, that makes you weaker.
You know, for an example, andI'm going to talk about it, my
toenails.
In a man's world, painting yourtoenails is feminine.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, in the society that we've chosen to use as our
transitional place, definitely.
There is a societal collectiveviewpoint that men who paint
their fingernails or toenailsare crazy, not manly.
(49:33):
Not manly and kind of tiptoeingon that line of being in some
weird sexual.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Feminine way.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Feminine way and it's absolutely.
But let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Let's talk about who do we know famous that writes or
that paints their toenails andtheir fingernails?
Marilyn Manson, ozzy Osbourne,these are all famous people.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
But even they choose black.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yes, they do Well, not Ozzy Osbourne.
He always did blue Well.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
I don't see any of them doing pink.
Oh yeah, or white, or orange,or green, I don't see any of
them doing orange or white, theystay to what traditionally is
considered manly.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
Masculine colors.
Masculine colors.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
And so they're still kind of tiptoeing on that.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
I currently am choosing white.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yes, you are.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Because my feet are getting very tan because we're
living right now.
Yes, well.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
They are.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
We're enjoying it, though.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
I'm enjoying it.
I'm conquering that fear too.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah.
So the first step, just torecap, being aware, calling it
what it is, yeah, don't cloak itin some other dress of.
It's not fear, it's a confusion, right?
Or it's just anxiety about thechange, like, take away the
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bullshit, yep, be aware.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Put line to yourself.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Call it what it is, yep, and then let's deal with
bullshit.
Yep Be aware Put a line toyourself Call it what it is, yep
, and then let's deal with it,right?
Why do I have fear about this?
What story am I creating in myhead?
What perspective, what beliefdo I have that is fueling this
fear?
Ask those questions, yes.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Correct.
Ask those questions.
Yes, what would my life looklike if I removed the fear and
gave myself permission to do it?
And I don't think I didn'tconsider it, because of a fear.
It was a fear that I couldn'tdo it, I'm too old or I don't
have the capacity, and you knowwhat?
F that I'm a fighter.
I'm not a fighter, and so I'mgoing to fight against it.
And I owned it and I had facedit head on.
And here we are Now.
(52:14):
I got to fix a few things, butI'm okay.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Nobody died in the making of this mess.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
It's been kind of fun , but hey, I feel pretty
complete.
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, I feel like this one was kind of just all
over the place.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
It was, but it was fun.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
But it is what it is Random man.
Random man.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Hey guys, don't forget to like, follow and share
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Check out our website when Ifix it wwwthemertcentersorg
Should be fixed today sometimeand check out our new Facebook
and Instagram page.
It's called the salty tarotdon't forget about my book and
your book yeah, then we have theshopify store that will be open
(52:59):
for business either today orfirst thing tomorrow are you
supposed to give me space topronounce the title of the book?
yeah, I will the the shopify.
Let me finish my thought Now.
I'm completely lost here.
The Shopify store is alsocalled the salty tarot, and Dr
Jenny has released the bookcalled scripted from within and
(53:23):
it is on sale on Amazon rightnow.
You can pick it up there for1589.
It's on Kindle as well, andit's also on Kindle and I have
uploaded it into Audible to getthe audio book out as well.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Oh yeah, where it'll read to you.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
And that way you can have the Audible message within
it.
And then I also have a book outcalled Sales Energy Method.
It is on Amazon as well andKindle, and you can pick it up
for $14.99, I think it is.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
It's a very good book .
Speaker 1 (53:55):
And you want to learn how to sell and you know it's
not just a sales book.
I should have entitled that,not just a sales book.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
I don't think you should live life through the
shouldas.
I think it ended up withexactly the title.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Because it is actually a very good way to
handle relationships as wellwith anybody and anything.
Yeah, it can teach you how tobe a whole lot better listener.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
There's deeper message within it, for sure.
I would agree with that.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
And anyway I feel good about today.
Don't forget to.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Ring that bell.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Hey, you guys have one awesome day.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Love ya.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
You guys have one awesome day.
(54:57):
Love you.
We'll see you next time.
Thank you.
Good morning, Dr Jenny.
We're back on the SpiritualGrind podcast again.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
How are you this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I am stupendously fabuloso.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Is that a one word?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I think like it's two words, two words.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I was going to try to figure out how to spell it If
it was one word.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I feel like it's two oh.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Okay, well.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I am fantastic, living the dream Indeed.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Living the dream Indeed.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Living the dream.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Working on getting healed up, starting our own
stuff.
Feels good to work for yourselfagain.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
But in that brings up my subject actually.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Oh, you have a subject.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
You have a topic.
I do have a topic.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
My favorite.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So, as you know, Sounds juicy and everybody else
is going to know soon Is we arestarting our own online store.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes, along with many other.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yes, I'm working on an app and a bunch of other
stuff A lot of things working.
Books, books, tarot cards,oracle cards.
We're working on it, we got itgoing.
Got it going on right now.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We do.
We've got a lot of things going.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
But what that brought up for me was a little bit of a
fear.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh, of the old cliche .
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Wow, that's an old one for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And it kind of popped up in my reality a little bit
that I couldn't handle learninghow to do all of this and and
create it online and it was alittle bit of a you know, like
holy cow, you know, and gettingpast the fear of screwing it all
up right, yep, yep was a littlebit of a challenge for me
really it was.
I know you might not have seenit, but it was a little scary
for me, like I'm gonna screwthis whole thing up and we're
(02:49):
gonna end up with owen,ukrainian taxes and a whole
bunch other yeah no, I didn'tsee it.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
The only thing I saw was when you tried to put the
merc store on the, the websiteon there.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, I screwed that up, it was a little bit of a
glitch.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So, you kind of brought that into your reality,
and now I know why.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Because once you put it on there, you can't take it
off unless you create anotherplace to have a domain, and so
that's where my challenge is,and so now I've got to create a
landing page so I can use thatas the domain and remove the
Merck from it so we canreestablish the Merck.
And then, on the Merck, I'mgoing to create a hyperlink that
goes to the store, and so it'sa little bit of a weird thing
(03:39):
for me.
Yeah, because I can do.
We have a store on the merc,you know we have the store
capabilities, and so I could do.
I could use the link for thestore to go to the shopify store
, and so that's.
It's going to be a little bitof a challenging evening for
afternoon for me today yeahbecause now I've got to create a
(03:59):
whole new landing page.
You know which is not hard.
I can.
You know pretty much.
Now ai does it all and I can golike do a free landing, single
page landing, you know like onwix or something but in the
process of all of this, whycan't you do that through
godaddy?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
why isn't there already a landing page to
receive the merc center back?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
no, no, it's not.
No, the Merck center is stillthere.
It's not that.
It's the fact that it won't letme take the Merck center off
unless I create another domainand restore the Merck center
back to what it was.
It's the oddest thing.
It's one of their littleglitches, or uh, you know I I
searched it and asked the helpcenter and it said that it's
(04:42):
something that Shopify is tryingto redevelop.
But once you put a domain onthere, you can't take it off
without having another domain.
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
But you do have another domain.
It's called the Merck Center.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I can't use it because it'll
take over the Merck Center likeit did.
It takes over the whole webpageand all it does is let the
Merck Center webpage justdoesn't exist.
Does is let the Merck.
Center webpage just doesn'texist.
Okay, it just creates anotherplace for the store.
So when you go type inwwwthemerckcentersorg, it comes
up to the Salty Tarot Shopifystore.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, I know, I was there whenever you discovered it
.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, but now I can't take that off of the Shopify
account without creating anotherlanding page.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I just haven't figured out how to do it.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Well, that's what I've been researching since
yesterday.
Yeah, you'll get it figured out, but anyway.
So it created a fear for me andof being able to maintain
retain, especially with all thehealth stuff we've went through
the last three years.
You know it's.
It's created a little bit ofintellectual doubt in me, and
(05:53):
you know cause.
There there were days Icouldn't remember words, names.
It was crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I mean that's a old pattern.
I mean that's a old pattern.
If you want to keep embracingit and bringing it to this
bubble and this reality, that'syour business, girl.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
That's just it.
I don't want to Shall.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I pull a sassy card for you.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Perhaps, maybe, but no, it's not that I want to
bring it into it, it's just thatit it popped up on me.
It was like one of thosesurprise things.
Like you know, I would sit downon the computer, I'm like I'm
going to do this and guess whathappened?
I get a little, a little bitshaky finger typing and I was
like dang, what's going on withthat?
(06:39):
Do a little break.
Walked outside and like why areyou scared of this?
Yeah, I mean.
I mean so you screwed up.
You have a son that can fix it,and so that's where I'm at with
it.
And I've been really clear onthat for the last couple days
and making myself aware that,hey, you know what, I what?
(07:03):
I am a pretty smart guy, I canhandle this Absolutely.
Just because I've had moldbrain for the last three years
doesn't mean that I can have itnow.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It doesn't mean that you have to continue with the
mold brain.
I agree you can be done with it.
We're in a nice, cleanenvironment.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So I love our environment, by the way, Bali
body's healing environment.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I love our environment, by the way.
Bali body's healing.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
What I love our little environment.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I do like our little bubble.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
In case y'all didn't know, we have moved into our
motorhome.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I don't know if it's permanent or temporary or
whatever it is, but I'm likingit.
I'm liking the lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Because that's going to be my next store is a
beginner RV store for thosethings that people don't know,
that they realize that they need.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Because there's nobody out there that teaches
you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Right, and not only that, but you go to the RV
stores and it's kind of like allthe same stuff and it's kind of
like all the same stuff andlike we kind of had to figure
out.
Me, like from a decoratingstandpoint, kind of kind of had
to figure out okay, when I'mmobile, what happens to this
(08:19):
stuff?
When I'm not mobile, whathappens to it?
What do I have?
What's the space?
Look like that.
I have to decorate.
What kind of decorations can Ibuy as far as hanging?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
on the wall versus sitting on counter space yeah,
because in a motorhome you can'tjust put screws on the wall
like you do in a house rightbecause, especially if it's on
moving parts, yeah, and you havelimited, like counter space as
well.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So it's not beneficial to just go to
Kirkland's and buy every littletchotchke, knickknack thing.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Even though I think you did.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Peeling, because then you like are looking around
saying okay, well, what counterspace do I have that I can set
that on?
So I mean, even like, with ouroffice space, the printer I'm
sitting here looking at theprinter and you had to build a
(09:19):
shelf that takes the dash andmorphs it into a computer table.
Quite ingenious, I might add.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, worked out quite well.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I do agree, and so being able to look at the
different spaces and reform theminto.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
And knowing that you have to do all this when you may
have to close up at any time,right.
Or decide to close up at anytime right or decide to close up
yeah, they have to be removableparts and pieces for transport
and we got it down pretty goodwe could.
We can close her down in lessthan an hour, I think yeah, I
think we've got it down prettypat decorations and all yeah,
(09:59):
but it's been a.
It's you this kind?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
of actually Guess what, what Chicken butt.
If we decide that we're tiredof this scenery, we can
literally Just pack up and gosomewhere else.
Pack up and move up the roadfor different scenery, just
because we freaking can.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You know this must be a fear podcast, because when we
did this too, it gave me alittle bit of a fear, as well,
when we did what?
When we moved into themotorhome and come over here to
Daytona.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Because that fear of you know the unknown kind of
came up too.
You know, I don't know what Idon't know about these things.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Right and so through lots of research and stuff I
have discovered that it's notthat hard.
No, it's not that.
Basically, two systems.
I know even less than you do.
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, let's do it it, uh it, but it's.
It's been a, it's been a funjourney and there are things
that you need that nobody tellsyou yeah and I think that store
and that's going to be the nextdoor open is the beginner rv rvr
store, because the rv life isfun.
It really is.
Yeah, and you know I thought itwould be.
(11:20):
Everybody look at you likeyou're crazy, you know.
But the people that live inthese rv parks, I mean, they do
it, man, they live it you know,they're living it and do it.
They set up their little patiosand they still have it where
they can break it all down andtake it with them that's right,
that's right but uh, it's been.
It's been a fun experience sofar and I'm really enjoying it
(11:42):
and conquered that fear.
Um, you know, I think there'sstill some things I'm going to
learn along the way, you know,but I'm open to it and retaining
it all that's what we do, Likethe LP gas.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, your last exploration was figuring out
okay how do we feel about?
Packing this thing up anddriving it down to the thing,
and what you found out is thatthere's a type of kit that you
can put together where you fillit from one of those little
tanks.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Right, yeah, no, you just hook a little tank up to it
and you swap it out when youneed it, and then next time
you're out on the road you stopand fill your big tank, and so
it's like you hook up the kit toit and then you take a regular
barbecue propane tank and hookit to that, and then when that
gets empty you just take thatdown and fill it and bring it
(12:35):
back and hook it up, and so it's.
You don't have to move the wholemotor home and it's uh, and you
can get any size tank for thatyou want.
They have big ones, little ones.
You know there's some peoplethat make them permanent?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Do you have to have a table for it to sit on?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
No, the hose comes down and goes down below and
comes out and sits on the ground.
Or you can, like a lot ofpeople, put them in milk crates.
I've seen around.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Because I was thinking if it blows over and
pulls the hose off or becomes anigniting propellant.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Those hoses are tough .
They're thick and tough.
But you know, like I've seen,there's one guy I've seen that
he has a secondary tank.
He bought one of those flatracks that goes into your
receiver and he has a secondarytank sitting on that that's
strapped to the motorhome and ahose that comes up and hooks to
that.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I see.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And so when he wants it he just unhooks the tank,
puts it down, puts it back inthe truck, goes, fills it and
comes back and we don't use alot of gas.
We've been doing this now sinceFebruary on the same tank Right
, and we still got half a tankleft.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
I see.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
But there is going to be a time where I'm going to
have to do it and hook up thelittle kit to it Right, right,
right.
What's that kit is going to bea kit that I'm going to put on
the beginner RVer store, becauseI knew nothing about it until
another guy told me.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Right yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I think that's a good idea.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Taking all the information and putting it in
one easy location where you canfind.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Stuff you don't know that you need.
Like I had no clue I was evergoing to need a freaking little
voltmeter.
Didn't have, didn't even thinkabout it, wasn't even on my mind
.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
And everything you find online is about travel
trailers.
It's not about actualmotorhomes.
Yeah, and everything you findonline is about travel trailers.
It's not about actualmotorhomes.
Yeah, and I mean, there are acouple of people that we follow
and that I follow and watchtheir videos, but even they
don't talk about what it is thatyou really need.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
What is your necessity?
Yeah, they just talk abouttheir life and those kind of
things, and would you considerthe necessity necessity kit
whether you have a brand new oneor a used one, or is it
primarily for used one or?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
both, and I think it's both.
I mean that what you need in amotorhome is what you need the
motor I see, you know, like eventhe new motorhomes, like we
have the biggest propane lp tankthat you can have in a
motorhome legally.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I see.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
And so those new units, brand new units, still
going to have that size tankRight and if you set up for any
period of time, you know youcould run out of propane.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Which in turn heats your water.
You know, runs your stoveinside if you you want it.
Your heater, if you have afloor heater like we do, you
know, yeah it we.
Of course we live in florida,so who needs a heater?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
but I like my floor heater.
You keep it very cold in here,so being able to step on a warm
floor is quite delicious rightlike like.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Another thing that that I learned that you need,
that a lot of people don't eventhink of, is chemical is coil
cleaner, because your airconditioners, if you're going to
clean them yourself or you'regoing to pay the 600 bucks for
somebody else to come do it,which I myself would clean them
myself you know that you have tohave a certain kind of coil
cleaner because if if you usethe chemical one, it can ruin
(16:07):
your roof.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Ah, I see.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
And so there's little things that I've learned that
you have to do.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Little tips and tricks.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Like the seal foam.
You know the seals for theslide outs.
You know you have to treatthose once every three, four
months or so, otherwise they getbad.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And everything will start leaking.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Didn't know.
Nobody taught us that.
Well, I know that if I wasgoing to add something, it would
be a heated potty seat, so thatmy commode lid, when I go to
sit on it, is not a refrigeratedice cube.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And there are plugs by the toilet In this arctic box
that I live in as.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I side eye my husband who keeps the air conditioner
on.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I feel like 42 yeah, don't go that low, but we do
keep it cool in here.
We have to, otherwise it getsreally hot in the day you have a
mouse in your pocket.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
If we turn it down in the middle of the day, it does
get warm in here very quicklycan you imagine what it would be
in one of those other unitsthat don't have the central air
in the top, because the heatcoming through the ceiling would
be astronomical yeah, it wouldbe probably quite uncomfortable
and we have the white reflectiveroof on this thing.
(17:27):
So if people don't have thatholy cow, that's one thing I
would suggest as well is, whenyou buy a motorhome, put the
white reflective roof on it, orthey make a roll-on stuff that
you can get.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So apparently there's a lot of people out there that
needed motorhome tips and tricks.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Apparently.
That's what this is turned intono, it started out about my
fear.
Yeah, it started out about myfear of learning and and what
I've discovered over the lastfew days setting up these stores
well, that's really the subjectsetting up this shopify store
for the american, for us, is, isthat you know what I can do it
still.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
And man do I love AI.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I would just remind everybody and we talked about
this on previous podcasts youdon't have to know what the
whole journey looks like.
You literally find the nextenjoyable thing in the
headlights.
And what does that mean?
That means remember I said youknow, when you're driving down
(18:27):
the road at night, you can't seenecessarily the whole road or
the whole scenery.
You're going 55, 60, 70 milesan hour only being able to see
that 200 feet in front of you.
What is that measurement?
100 feet from the headlights?
Speaker 1 (18:48):
um.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
It all depends on your lights you're literally
going down the highway on yourjourney.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
However far you can see within the headlights you
have no idea what's on the otherside of the process.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
yeah, trusting the journey and Trusting the journey
and if you could take thatmetaphor and bring it into your
life on a daily basis and justtrusting what's in the now and
doing the next best thing from aplace of this is what's most
(19:24):
enjoyable, like yesterday,yesterday was a little bit of
difficult day for me because Ididn't feel good yeah as we
still are in that healingprocess.
There's some days where it'sjust a physical health challenge
for me and well for both, thatwas I can only speak for me
right I got up yesterday notfeeling good at all and I was
(19:47):
like, okay, well, I'm working ontrying to get the Oracle cards
finished up, I'm going to justpush through and I wasn't
listening to my body andhonoring what I needed.
So I come to the computer tofinish editing and the computer
absolutely will not participate.
It wouldn't save my changes.
(20:09):
It was just a tangled up hotmess, and so Spirit was like
nope.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Not today, Batman.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
We are not doing this today, and so all I could find
in that moment that was morejoyful than what I was doing was
to just honor my body and golay down.
And that's what felt good.
That's what it's about when Isay, find the next joyful thing,
(20:38):
I'm not saying you've got to goout and go roller skating or
play dodgeball.
I'm saying if the only thingyou can find in that moment that
feels better than what you'redoing currently is to go lay
down and take a nap, honor that,do that.
(21:01):
That is the next joyful thing.
That's the energy that you'retapping into, and it doesn't
have to look a certain way.
That was part of what I wastrying to pull across on the
last podcast we did when we wentdown the rabbit hole about
(21:23):
humanness.
The spiritual world tends tohave this perspective that if
you're awakened and you'refollowing your spiritual journey
, it's supposed to look acertain way, and that's not at
all what it's about.
So, following that joy,whatever it is, it may be taking
(21:45):
a nap.
It may be eating chocolate icecream.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Whatever that looks like Giving yourself permission.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
She actually named the two things that she loves to
do.
You know, this spiritual worldhas fallen into this rut and we
you and I were kind of talkingabout this this morning and we
you and I were kind of talkingabout this this morning of they
feel like that if you're notwoohoo and unicorn farts and
fairies flying around you andbutterflies landed on your nose,
then you're not living thejourney.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
It's more of a expectation, yeah, behaving in a
certain way.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
You know they're labeling it and you actually had
a really good analogy about howit's okay for some religions to
go out and get drunk onSaturday night and go to church
on Sunday morning becausethey're forgiven of their sins,
and it's the kind of thespiritual world has kind of
fallen into that same habit.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Right.
We're forgiven for our behaviorbecause we were being human.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
That's correct.
It's just a cop out.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
It is as the salty sassy tarot as well.
You know.
Let's call it what it is.
Yes, that's the spiritualcommunity that created that tag
phrase just being human as acop-out for a societal judgment
or self-judgment of not beingperfect or not being balanced in
(23:09):
my emotions or grounded, andthe reality of it is is that
we're spiritual beings who havecome to this playground to have
human interaction, experiencesand emotions, and if I'm
freaking pissed off, then I'mpissed off.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Own it, honor it, own it.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It doesn't mean that you came here to get to that
divinely guided, enlightenedplace to sit in the meditative
position and have no negativereaction to the shit going on
around you.
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And that's what we bring as thespiritual grinders.
That's what we mean by that.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
The spiritual grinders.
I like it, the grinders.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
The grinders, the spiritual grinders.
Let's call it real man.
Sometimes the journey is a tripand not in a good way, and
sometimes I get pissed off andsometimes I have the f the world
mentality and sometimes we getscared.
Sometimes I sit in the ownposition and meditate yeah
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sometimes I am balanced in myemotions because I have given
that part of life no meaning,because it doesn't really have
any meaning.
Right, you know there's reasonsbehind all of it.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Right there's.
You know we're there, like,like, sometimes emotions are
bringing up things that you needto look at from old history,
and sometimes emotions are justbringing in stuff to bring to
your awareness.
And sometimes actions are justbringing in stuff to bring to
your awareness and sometimesactions are the same thing.
You know, you know we may like.
You made the analogy thismorning of you know you run
across the Karen and you cheerout.
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You know that was an action,physically, humanly, emotionally
, verbally.
You know it's all it, that's anaction and we have to allow
ourselves to have those actions,those emotions, those and own
them.
Like me being fearful of doingall this stuff, I have to own
that.
If I don't own it, it's goingto keep popping up and I'm going
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to keep screwing things upthat's right.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
You're going to keep holding that vibrational
frequency and that's where youget that.
Um, we've mentioned this aswell, that's where you get that.
Uh, reciprocated energy flow.
Okay, you've got that energy of.
Okay, I'm gonna fuck somethingup.
Well, here's another heapingspoonful of it, and that's when
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your reality begins to startmirroring that energy flow to
you.
Unless you own it and thingsfuck up left and right.
Left and right, it's like okay,what the hell else is going to
happen?
I said the F word Maybe weshould bleep that out.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I don't know, I don't know Well the editor handled it
.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Freedom of speech, I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
That's how the whole mechanism works.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And trying to be this some kind of perfect in it.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, it's like everybody thinks everybody's
supposed to be at peace all thetime and not have any outwardly
emotions.
And to me it's like thatdoesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
This is not fucking Krispy Kreme.
Take the sugar coating off thedamn donut.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Isn't that what Krispy Kreme is?
It's pretty much all sugarcoating.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It is, but life is not that.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
And even their dough is like 100% sugar and
spiritually awakenedness is notlike that I agree.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I'm here to tell you.
And anybody that wants tochallenge me on that let's
debate.
We can definitely debate.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
We can, we can.
You can call in and we can havea debate on the air.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
We can or we can just talk about your topic.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
You can choose the debater, but I, you know, dr
Jenny is a master debater.
A the debater yes, but Dr Jennyis a master debater.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
A master debater.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
She can debate quite well.
She's mastered the debatingpart.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I have mastered the debating.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
You master debater.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
I'm a master debater.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
That's a T-shirt.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
That is a T-shirt.
That is a t-shirt, that is at-shirt.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
That is.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, we would love to have people call in.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Maybe let's put the phone number to the thing in the
description on this podcast Ifpeople want to call in.
Uh, we do currently.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
We do our podcasts on Saturdays and Wednesdays yeah,
and we can set it up he's, Ijust need to know in advance.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
That way we can have it set up, cause I have to
Bluetooth everything together.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
And so yeah, if somebody wants to call in and
discuss a topic that would be ustaking the podcast to a whole
different level yeah it would befun.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Oh, I guess your cat wants to talk yeah, so maybe
take your phone out and grab apicture, for oh, too late she's
done.
She says no pictures today.
Yeah, so maybe take your phoneout and grab a picture for.
Oh too late, she's done.
She says no pictures today.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
You can't afford my fee.
She don't like pictures anymore.
She used to sit and pose forthem.
She don't do it anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, you say picture .
Speaker 1 (28:45):
And she runs.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I feel like she who doesn't know she's a cat.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
she not only has a watch, but she knows what we're
saying 6.57 yesterday she waswalking towards the kitchen to
get her treats at 7.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, we call them candy bars.
We have two cats.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And somehow they always know when it's 7 o'clock.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
And somehow they always know when it's 5 o'clock
and they want to wake me up.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
In the morning.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I think they do have a watch or they can read the
clock they get up at their beckand call.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's interesting, they don't wake me up.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, I wonder why that is.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Because I refuse to honor their request.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
And you get up and Well, that's just me, though,
and I get woke up, and if I'mawake.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I can't go back to sleep.
It can be you if you want it tobe.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I have a hard time going back to sleep once
somebody wakes me up.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
And you can continue to walk that path.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, but it's been kind of.
Do you want me to?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
draw a sassy oracle for you.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
A salty tarot card for you.
No, I don't need one of thoseright now.
I have enough I'm dealing withright now.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
But you see how I tied it right back in a while
ago and you didn't used to giveme props for that.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I gave you props in my mind.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Way to tie that back in.
But the uh, the fear behind allof it and the emotions that we
have in this virtual worldpeople.
They view that in a in anegative way when it's part of
being human.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
It's definitely part of the construct.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, I mean we have to have emotions.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Without emotions, we would all just be robots doing
the same exact thing well, therewould be no point for the
mission yeah, that's totallyright you're not going to honor
your emotions because that'syour guidance system and see
them as uh transformationaltools for growth yep yep, then
you might as well call it and goback to your spiritual self.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
And we must master the transformation AKA suicide
what?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Pull the plug, man, if you're not going to do it.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
That was a little salty.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
That was a little too salty A little too salty.
Okay, listen, that was a littletoo far out there.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I'm not telling anybody to go.
You know, take their own life.
It was a joke.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Just deal with your crap, Like do your homework and
deal with your crap and honorwhere you're at.
Because I'm here to tell you,if we don't start recognizing
the emotion and we don't take itout of the proverbial closet
and experience the emotion,it'll come back.
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It will come back every time,every time, every time.
It'll keep getting triggered,that button will keep getting
pushed.
You'll keep getting more of thecrap that you don't want.
And I just tell it like it isman, deal with it.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, I totally agree , and we, as humans have a
tendency to store that stuff upand you know you brought up a
very uncomfortable topic andthat is suicide.
And we all know that the numberone cause of suicide is
emotional distress and thenumber one cause of people doing
stupid things that get themlocked up or whatever, is
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emotional distress or fear.
And it's all emotions.
All of our actions are dictatedby emotions.
That's our guidance system andwhen we get emotions that are
out of control and we don'tidentify and own them and face
them, like you just said, it cancause us to make stupid
decisions and do stupid things.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
That box is going to overfill and your system is
going to fry right and it'sgoing to either cause a complete
and total shutdown, meltdown,or it's going to cause a
complete and total explosion,existential crisis in a very big
way.
(32:57):
Yes, totally Eventually you'lldeal with them.
Yeah, one way or another.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
You will, and doing it the fun way is the best way.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Well, it certainly is more comfortable.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, more definitely , because it is fun to conquer.
Yeah, more definitely, and itincreases your self-worth when
you can learn to interact withyour emotions and own them and
transform the fears, the anger,even the happiness, into more
happiness.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Well, that's right, because you know, in identifying
that, there is an emotionalguidance system which we talk
about a lot, and it's in my book.
I even did a complete chart,scripted from within, which is
(34:01):
now out and on Kindle and Amazon.
Yeah, it gives you a way ofidentifying the emotions so that
you can acknowledge what theyare and embrace them.
You cannot believe how manypeople are out there that can't
even differentiate anxiety fromanger or boredom or they don't
know what they're feeling.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
What I like about the book is you tell people what to
do with it too, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
And getting to know what that language is and
identifying it is part of theexploration, part of the fun.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
If you can get to a place where you're looking at it
like that and then when you'rehaving that emotion, once you
identify that you have emotions,yikes.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Instead of robotically setting them aside.
And I have no emotions.
It is what it is everything isfine Realizing that you have the
emotions.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
That was my robot sound.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Coming to meet George Jetson, his robot Rosie.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
His boy Elroy.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Tell me you're old without telling me you're old
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
A lot of people don't even know what we're talking
about.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Coswell's Cogs.
Yeah, that's where Georgeworked.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
And he hated his job he did he would always watch the
clock so he'd get off work andjump out the window into his
flying car yeah, exactly and youknew.
Do you know that that wassupposed to be in the year 2000?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
oh, on the cartoon that was considered.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
That's what it would look like in the year 2000 yep I
did not know that yeah, thatactually popped up on my feed
the other day wow one of ourfellow people that are our age
said fun fact did you know thatthe jetsons the year was
supposed to be the year 2000 inthe script.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
And he also brought up something else.
Star Trek was supposed to be in2020.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Oh really.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Yeah, I was like wow, that's kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, for sure, Boy were we behind.
We are a little behind,according to those things.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Well, we all know that there's things out there
that they're not telling usthere are.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
But what a, what a you know bringing up that topic.
What a movie last night.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I don't remember what we watched.
Remember the journey to thebottom of the journey to the
center of the earth thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What an interesting movie.
How can we have seen thatbefore?
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I don't know, I don't even know how I it, but there's
a number two as well.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
We're going to have to watch that one, but it was.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I'm very surprised because I watch those kind of
movies all the time.
I had never even heard of it.
I maybe have heard of it.
I have a vague recollection.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
You know how that ties into this podcast.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
How.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Because they conquered fears and emotions
during it a lot.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
And it was a.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It was a big tie-in.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It's one of those rabbit hole topics no pun
intended that you kind of had inthe back of your head most of
your life.
After reading that book,journey to the Center of the
Earth.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
You know, I read that book back in what six or seven
grade, I don't remember, foreverago I never heard of it oh, it
was, it was assigned.
And you know, like he said, itwas assigned to me to read on my
summer reading.
It was assigned to us duringschool.
We had to read that one.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
It was in the same class, as you know hamlet and
romeo and juliet, and yeah, youknow the beauty of being a gypsy
kid I would get to one schooland they would have already done
their writing assignment and Iwould go to the next school and
they hadn't started theirreading assignment.
So a lot of those books thatyou guys who stayed in the same
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school all the time had to read,like moby dick, oh yeah I hated
that book.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
That was the longest, most terribly written book in
existence.
I think I didn't have to dothose.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Because I would leave the school and the next school
I went to had already donetheirs.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
For the semester or the year.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
So you got lucky.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I don't remember doing any of those.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
So did you experience the emotion of disappointment
in that?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
No, but you know, I am a reader anyway.
Yeah, I read my own stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Even back then I was a quantum physics kind of kid.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, not me.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I had already thought about multiverse and the what
ifs.
Even back then I was adaydreaming kind of kid that
already thought about the stringtheory.
I just wasn't calling it thator the multiverse or any of that
, but when I tried to talk aboutit, the adults around me would
(39:12):
say, I should put that downsince house.
What a, what a very strange,peculiar kid you have I'm gonna
take you to the psychiatrist.
You need help no, they wouldn'tsay it to me, they would
whisper it to my father or mygrandmother.
What a very strange kid that isyeah, you know my, my, because I
was bringing thoughts to ageneration that didn't even have
(39:36):
the ability to let their mindconceptually go to those places
yeah, it was crazy I canremember in kindergarten I wrote
this um little story and it waskind of about that etherical
(39:57):
realm where the dead people liveand the angels live.
Yeah, and I actually had ateacher that must have been
pretty open, because she gave menot only an A on the paper and
extra points but really pattedme on the back for being so
(40:18):
creative and doing such goodwriting.
I remembered that.
It ingrained very deeply in mewhat an amazingly beautiful
story and um you know, one of mybaby book stories brought it
home for my parents to read.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
And my female.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
My, my female parent didn't find it as interesting as
my teacher did, and I'm noteven sure what she even did with
it, but I was like, okay, well,I don't need you my teacher
thinks it's cool, so yeah off.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
She liked it anyway, you know the?
Uh, I had in my baby book astory that I wrote like in six
or seven, maybe eighth gradeyeah it's in my baby book still,
and it was about alien, alienabduction.
It's in the baby book.
I don't know where it is.
I think it's probably in thefile cabinet now.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
But the baby my baby book, yeah, I don't remember
having a baby book I remember amanila envelope with a bunch of
shoved in it where is that babybook?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I don't know interesting, but the my in my
baby book is the story aboutalien abductions that I wrote
and I got 105 on it nice andbecause it was, uh, uh, it was
something we had to write forthe writing competition at the
county fair.
Yeah, for literary class, forliterature.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
I see.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
And and she entered them all in the county fair.
I didn't even get.
I get.
I was the highest scoredwriting that went to the fair
and I didn't and didn't even gethonorable mention Nothing,
because all the people judge it.
Yeah, you were before your timeyeah, and now there's tv shows
about all this that's crazy, kid.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
What are you talking about?
You probably touched on a topicthat was very nervy and they
were like you're nothighlighting this topic
absolutely not we're cramming itback in that uh, cia, what they
call it, whenever it's not forit hasn't been disclosed.
It's private stuff that theydon't let you read.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Oh, classified, classified, yep.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
The classified crap.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
That's where it ended up.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Yeah, probably it ended up in the CIA classified
file and they're researchingstuff.
That's where it ended up.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, probably it ended up in the CIA classified
file and they researched stuffand they're watching you.
What did they call that whenthey researched?
And they just released thatinformation?
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Declassified.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, they just declassified that information
from Well, maybe your story thatyou wrote will surface out of
the.
Maybe, Declassification.
Maybe who knows.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
By the way, here's James Emery's little story.
He wrote back in 19 and 22.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
85.
I'm not that old, yeah, no, andthe crazy part is I got entered
that same year.
I remember this quite wellbecause I'd had the literature
entry into the county fair.
And then I also had an artpicture that I didn't score high
(43:40):
on at all.
It was of a little vulturethat's framed, you've seen it,
and I actually won first placefor that.
Oh my, my goodness, I got ablue ribbon for that.
And when my art teacher didn'tgive me any score on it at all,
and it gets entered in thecounty fair.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
I actually get a blue ribbon.
Your art teacher was likeside-eyeing you with a smirk on
his face.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, I was like, and so it was a.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Little Jimmy, this is I can actually draw.
You could have done probably alittle better with this vulture
thing.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah, you said something about my shadows and
my eyes were off.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
And then you take it to the fair, I take it to the
fair and the judges score me, Iget a blue ribbon from it.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Matter of fact, it's in that yellow, that blue ribbon
is, in that yellow middleenvelope that you found and they
took that character and theymade those cartoons.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Remember that cartoon about those two vultures?
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Well, those cartoons Remember that cartoon about
those two vultures?
Well, that's kind of what Iwrote it.
That cartoon was out already.
That's kind of where I drew itfrom, was kind of that.
Because we couldn't look atpictures, you had to draw that
from memory.
That was one of the challengesof the art class.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
And he made mention of no background, because all I
did was have a branch coming outof nowhere, and then a vulture
sitting on it.
Ah, I see.
And I drew it all in pencil andshaded it and he told me my
shading was off and I was like,no, it ain't, because the sun's
coming from this way, but anyway, so I cannot draw.
Yeah, it was fun.
I can actually draw pretty goodwhen I really want to.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
I agree, but it has to be, I have to be in the mood
for it.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Yeah, I agree, but my artwork can be very animated
sometimes, but anyway, so whatwas the topic again?
Conquering my fears.
Speaker 2 (45:24):
Conquering fears, that is a definite big one.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, you know, it is the emotional guidance system.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Fear does keep us from doing a lot of things, and
things that we don't evenrealize are Fear based Enjoyable
.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, totally, totally.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
I mean, if you keep yourself from going and trying
something, then you never getthe opportunity to decide
whether or not you actually likeit, correct, until you go out
and you do it and you're like,oh, you know what, that wasn't
so bad.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
It's like all those adventurous Christmas presents
we gave out.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Yeah.
And then you're like oh, youknow what I kind of like that I
want to do it again.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I could never do that .
They're all fearful of it, butanyway, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
I think the first step is recognizing that you
have a fear.
Totally agree, because fear canbe dressed up in many different
things.
Like we as humans feel likebeing fearful of something is
(46:34):
weak.
Yes, especially the male genre,if they have fear of something,
getting them to be accountablefor the fear, almost like it
seems to tap on their manhood.
Men are not supposed to befearful.
They're weak if they're fearful.
I find that in my work withclients in the male genre.
(46:58):
But recognizing that you'rehaving this feeling and then
coming to a place where you canactually say what it truly is
and not disguising it as no,it's, it's not fear, it's me.
I get a lot of that, yeah, andI'm like nope, that's still fear
(47:21):
, doesn't matter whether youcall it rainbow shit unicorn
chocolate ice cream unicornfarts, it still has a root seed
of fear.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Fear, I agree.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
And that's you know, and as a man.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
so let me touch on that for some, because you said
it right as a man, you're onlyweak when you don't face your
fears and own them and recognizethem.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Right, that's what makes you weak.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Right, that's what makes you weak, because now the
fear has conquered you, andyou're not supposed to have a
fear, and so you ignore it.
Right and your men will come upwith all sorts of creative ways
to avoid handling a fear.
Owning a fear, even evenacknowledging saying the word
(48:14):
owning a fear, even evenacknowledging saying the word oh
yeah, it's, uh, it's.
You know, and that's somethingthat I like to bring to the
awareness in this virtual worldof with that we live in, is men
can be manly and do all themanly things and still have
emotions, have do what I do andsay whatever you want.
Because if, if anybody judgesyou for what and who you, if
you're you being you, that's onthem Right Because of their
(48:37):
fears and their emotions andtheir ridiculous beliefs.
Yeah, because we can do and saywhat and be whatever we want to
be, it doesn't change ourmanliness.
Matter of fact, what changesand makes us stronger men is we,
when we can do things that weview as makes you weaker.
When you can accomplish thatand you view it in a belief
(48:59):
system, that makes you weaker.
You know, for an example, andI'm going to talk about it, my
toenails.
In a man's world, painting yourtoenails is feminine.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yeah, in the society that we've chosen to use as our
transitional place, definitely.
There is a societal collectiveviewpoint that men who paint
their fingernails or toenailsare crazy, not manly.
(49:33):
Not manly and kind of tiptoeingon that line of being in some
weird sexual.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
Feminine way.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Feminine way and it's absolutely.
But let's talk about that.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Let's talk about who do we know famous that writes or
that paints their toenails andtheir fingernails?
Marilyn Manson, ozzy Osbourne,these are all famous people.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
But even they choose black.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yes, they do Well, not Ozzy Osbourne.
He always did blue Well.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
I don't see any of them doing pink.
Oh yeah, or white, or orange,or green, I don't see any of
them doing orange or white, theystay to what traditionally is
considered manly.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
Masculine colors.
Masculine colors.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
And so they're still kind of tiptoeing on that.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
I currently am choosing white.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yes, you are.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Because my feet are getting very tan because we're
living right now.
Yes, well.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
They are.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
We're enjoying it, though.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
I'm enjoying it.
I'm conquering that fear too.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah.
So the first step, just torecap, being aware, calling it
what it is, yeah, don't cloak itin some other dress of.
It's not fear, it's a confusion, right?
Or it's just anxiety about thechange, like, take away the
(51:07):
bullshit, yep, be aware.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Put line to yourself.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Call it what it is, yep, and then let's deal with
bullshit.
Yep Be aware Put a line toyourself Call it what it is, yep
, and then let's deal with it,right?
Why do I have fear about this?
What story am I creating in myhead?
What perspective, what beliefdo I have that is fueling this
fear?
Ask those questions, yes.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Correct.
Ask those questions.
Yes, what would my life looklike if I removed the fear and
gave myself permission to do it?
And I don't think I didn'tconsider it, because of a fear.
It was a fear that I couldn'tdo it, I'm too old or I don't
have the capacity, and you knowwhat?
F that I'm a fighter.
I'm not a fighter, and so I'mgoing to fight against it.
And I owned it and I had facedit head on.
And here we are Now.
(52:14):
I got to fix a few things, butI'm okay.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Nobody died in the making of this mess.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
It's been kind of fun , but hey, I feel pretty
complete.
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, I feel like this one was kind of just all
over the place.
Speaker 1 (52:30):
It was, but it was fun.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
But it is what it is Random man.
Random man.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
Hey guys, don't forget to like, follow and share
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Check out our website when Ifix it wwwthemertcentersorg
Should be fixed today sometimeand check out our new Facebook
and Instagram page.
It's called the salty tarotdon't forget about my book and
your book yeah, then we have theshopify store that will be open
(52:59):
for business either today orfirst thing tomorrow are you
supposed to give me space topronounce the title of the book?
yeah, I will the the shopify.
Let me finish my thought Now.
I'm completely lost here.
The Shopify store is alsocalled the salty tarot, and Dr
Jenny has released the bookcalled scripted from within and
(53:23):
it is on sale on Amazon rightnow.
You can pick it up there for1589.
It's on Kindle as well, andit's also on Kindle and I have
uploaded it into Audible to getthe audio book out as well.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Oh yeah, where it'll read to you.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
And that way you can have the Audible message within
it.
And then I also have a book outcalled Sales Energy Method.
It is on Amazon as well andKindle, and you can pick it up
for $14.99, I think it is.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
It's a very good book .
Speaker 1 (53:55):
And you want to learn how to sell and you know it's
not just a sales book.
I should have entitled that,not just a sales book.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
I don't think you should live life through the
shouldas.
I think it ended up withexactly the title.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
Because it is actually a very good way to
handle relationships as wellwith anybody and anything.
Yeah, it can teach you how tobe a whole lot better listener.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
There's deeper message within it, for sure.
I would agree with that.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
And anyway I feel good about today.
Don't forget to.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Ring that bell.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Hey, you guys have one awesome day.
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Love ya.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
You guys have one awesome day.
(54:57):
Love you.
We'll see you next time.
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