September 30, 2025 • 49 mins
Have you ever caught yourself deep down a rabbit hole of conspiracy videos or social media posts, only to snap out of it and wonder why you just wasted thirty minutes of your precious time? You're not alone, and more importantly—it might not have been a waste at all.
In this thought-provoking episode, we dive into the fascinating realm of societal distractions and their deeper spiritual significance. We explore why certain content captivates our attention while other information passes by unnoticed, and what these patterns reveal about our subconscious beliefs and unresolved emotional triggers.
When something grabs your focus—whether it's conspiracy theories, dramatic news stories, or trivial gossip—your higher self might be trying to show you something important. These moments of distraction can serve as mirrors reflecting what needs healing within you or highlighting beliefs that no longer serve your highest good. Rather than judging yourself for being distracted, we suggest approaching these moments with curiosity: "Why did this capture my attention? What emotion is it triggering? What belief pattern might be at play here?"
The conversation expands to examine how contrast operates as an essential teaching tool in our spiritual development. Without experiencing what we don't want, how would we recognize what we do want? Earth provides the perfect classroom for these contrasting experiences, offering a rich buffet of opportunities for growth. We share practical insights on identifying and changing the three-part system that keeps us locked in distraction cycles: our core beliefs, our habitual patterns, and our ongoing mental programming.
For those looking to deepen their spiritual practice, we also discuss how to build unwavering confidence in your intuitive abilities through consistent practice and validation. Just as mastery in any skill comes from repetition and experience, spiritual confidence emerges when you establish daily routines that connect you with your higher wisdom.
Join us for this illuminating conversation that will transform how you view the distractions in your life, turning what once seemed like wasted time into powerful opportunities for self-discovery and spiritual evolution.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:28):
Good morning, everybody.
Welcome back to the SpiritualGrind.
We are here today in DaytonaBeach.
How about a great it's been somebeautiful weather.
SPEAKER_03 (00:37):
Good morning.
SPEAKER_00 (00:38):
There's Dr.
Ginny sneaking in from the back.
Good morning.
SPEAKER_03 (00:43):
Good morning.
So I have a great topic.
SPEAKER_00 (00:49):
I have a great topic today.
Ooh, do tell this is somethingthat you know for the grinders
out there that listen is part ofour life, and it is something
that in our reality that is thatwe deal with on a daily basis.
And I see a lot of people thatdeal with it as well.
(01:10):
And that is societaldistraction.
And let me let me de dive alittle bit into this.
SPEAKER_04 (01:21):
Deve into it.
SPEAKER_00 (01:23):
You know, when you're promoting a business
online, you you have to get onInstagram and Facebook and all
that stuff.
And you have a million thingsthat you have to tag together
because, you know, that's howyou grow your listeners and
those things.
And since I've been engaged morein Instagram and Facebook, I've
seen a lot of these things goingon that are conspiracy theories
and societal distractions.
(01:45):
And why that's the real purposeof this podcast is why do we,
first of all, allow thedistractions.
And second of all, why wouldsociety be distracting us?
It's a it could be a very, verydeep topic today.
(02:07):
You know, like there's the mainconspiracy that's going around
right now, there's two things.
One is the the Charlie Kirkmurder.
You know, they're they're sayingit's conspiracy theories, and
there's all these videos thatcome up that that he was a
Freemason and blah blah blahblah blah blah, this other
stuff.
And you know, and then the otherone is these videos are starting
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to resurface of the 9-11attacks.
So you gotta ask yourself why.
First of all, why do you allowyourself to get sucked into that
trap?
And second of all, why wouldsociety be distracting us?
SPEAKER_04 (02:40):
I don't know.
Why do you?
SPEAKER_00 (02:41):
I don't Well, you know, we had a conversation
about conspiracy theories theother day.
SPEAKER_04 (02:47):
We did that you activated.
I don't.
I don't even I listen to whatyou bring to the table a lot of
times, but I I mean I'm I'm justdigging it, yeah.
I'm just having fun.
It's all good.
Yeah.
Um everybody has something thatthey like to play with and toy
(03:10):
with.
I think it's a little bitdifferent for me personally,
because I have a differentviewpoint of the whole
mechanism.
SPEAKER_00 (03:20):
And uh that's why I'm bringing it to the table so
you can give your viewpoint tothe grinders out there.
SPEAKER_04 (03:26):
I get it.
It's not time yet, though.
Continue on.
SPEAKER_00 (03:28):
So the the part of it for me is I was sitting there
watching all this stuff and allthese shenanigans and all these
so-called experts, and they haveall this stuff that they do and
can do and know and blah blahblah blah blah.
And you just stop and say toyourself, is this really what we
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should be paying attention to?
Is it really what we need to bepaying attention to?
Because the reality is, is yeah,like Charlie Kirk, he was a very
well-known online influencer andand held expos and conventions
all over the world and very wellknown.
And uh he was a great podcaster.
(04:10):
You know, he spoke his truth,and that's what we're about, is
speaking truth and allowing itour own version, having free
speech and having the ability todo and say whatever we want to
do because of our constitutionalrights.
And that's what he kind ofenforced was constitutional
rights and those things.
But his death.
So we when we talk about hisdeath, and you see all these
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conspiracy theories, do Ibelieve any of this stuff?
Heck, I don't know.
I don't really know.
I just know I wasted 30 minutesof my time looking at stupid
stuff.
SPEAKER_04 (04:41):
What do you mean?
SPEAKER_00 (04:44):
And looking at the conspiracies behind it and
watching it on little 30 secondvideos over and over and over.
And I at the end of that 30minutes, I looked at myself
like, what are you doing?
You're an idiot.
Why are you even payingattention to this?
Well because it don't reallymatter in the big scheme of
things.
SPEAKER_04 (04:58):
I mean, for yourself, yeah.
Why, why is a good question.
SPEAKER_01 (05:02):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (05:03):
Why why that's what is it triggering?
What is it pointing to?
What is it mirroring?
What does it represent?
There's some reason why itcaught your attention.
There's some reason why you andyou brought yourself to the
table as uh uh an example.
Right.
So that's why I'm using you.
There's some reason why it'sheld your attention for a
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minute, him specifically.
SPEAKER_00 (05:27):
Yeah, I've been watching him for a while.
SPEAKER_04 (05:29):
And so you're, I mean, you're right.
What asking yourself why,because otherwise, if if it
wasn't triggering something,mirroring something,
symbolically pointing tosomething else, you would not it
wouldn't even phase you.
It'd just be another littleshort that you flip through and
(05:51):
it's no big deal.
And you listen to the content tosee if it's uh something useful
or not.
And if it's not, just grow alawn.
So why for you does he hold sucha big point of attraction right
now in your bubble?
SPEAKER_00 (06:08):
Well, you know, I have it uh I I have I've kind of
veered away from it since I'vehad this thought in my head.
But the point of it for me is islike you just said, it's why am
I am I giving this my time?
And I would challenge everybodyout there to stop and ask
yourself, why are you givingyour thoughts and your time to
that when you could be using itelsewhere?
Because in my thought process Iknow that things happen and
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things are there, but it's allhuman.
And so on the big scheme ofthings, this reality in this
realm is not dictated by whatyou see on TikTok.
It's dictated from what's insideof you.
SPEAKER_04 (06:49):
Maybe maybe we can we can dive in and break it
down.
Break her down and and see whatwe can do.
Break it down.
See what we come up with.
Because in even in the bigscheme of things, uh we'll use
what's his name?
Charlie Cock.
SPEAKER_00 (07:09):
Charlie Kirk.
SPEAKER_04 (07:10):
Kirk.
I don't even know who the guyis.
We use him as an example, andwe'll use you an example.
There's some reason why it itrang your bell.
And your higher self, yourcounsels, your spirit guides,
any of that, your intuition, allof that that's guiding and
directing you along your path,all along the way of your whole
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entire life existence, is doingthings for reasons.
They don't just do thingsrandomly to laugh at you or to
just get a kick out of it.
They're guiding you through.
So if it has your attentionright this moment, then it's
trying to show you something.
SPEAKER_00 (07:52):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (07:52):
It's either trying to show you something in your
beliefs and patterns andprograms that it's time to look
at and maybe redefine orconsider leveling up or
something.
SPEAKER_02 (08:04):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (08:05):
Or it's triggering some sort of personal experience
that left some sort of traumaspace, and it may be time to
look at that for furtherhealing.
Or you may just find that it'sinteresting and it's a joy to
listen to that and to play thegame of Sherlock Holmes and see
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if you can figure it out.
Like it may be a point ofenjoyment, and and that's why
you're doing it.
SPEAKER_00 (08:40):
Well, yeah, uh, I've always been the investigative
kind of I like to investigateand figure out problems.
That's kind of been me for mostof my life.
SPEAKER_04 (08:47):
Yeah.
So when you ask yourself why,don't I would advise not to
judge why am I wasting time onthis stupid shit?
It served some sort of purposeor it wouldn't be in your
reality.
And if it's in your reality andit's got your attention, then
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it's there for a reason.
SPEAKER_00 (09:09):
Yeah, there's parts of it that really grab my
attention.
And you know, we've preached fora long time that this reality is
just a hologram.
It's just, you know, it's allfake, it's all what we create.
And a lot of this in this issaying it's movie and theatrical
and it's holographic and it'syou know, all of this stuff, and
so you're kind of like, hmm,yeah, it could be, you know, it
(09:29):
could be, it could not be.
Who c uh but the the pointbehind it for me is you're
right.
It why are the beliefs within meallowing me to be engaged in
this thing?
And this is what I'm that's whatthe challenge is out there to
listeners, is identify thosethings in your life that are
just time wasters.
(09:50):
And if you're doing it onpurpose, that's one thing.
But if you catch yourself 30minutes into doing something
like I did and say, What have Ibeen wasting my time doing?
SPEAKER_04 (09:59):
You know, there's something there's you know, time
wasting and judging it as timewasting is a two-fold
perspective as well.
It would not have come into yourreality unless it was something
that needed your awareness.
SPEAKER_01 (10:14):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (10:15):
And if you were not meant to spend some time with
it, it wouldn't be taking yourtime.
You would not give it your time.
SPEAKER_00 (10:25):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_04 (10:26):
Unless you have things that are on your plate,
on your to-do list that youdon't want to do, or you're
overwhelmed and don't know whatto do, you'll find things to
distract you from thatsubconsciously.
(10:46):
So you gotta identify okay, am Iin that overwhelmed state and
I'm distracting myselfsubconsciously, so I don't have
to go deal with this, this, andthis because I don't know how,
or I feel overwhelmed, deer inthe headlight feeling, then yes,
it's not necessarily abeneficial thing and catching
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yourself doing it and bringingyourself back around and saying,
Okay, you know what?
Let me take one thing at a time.
I'll feel better if I get itdone and get it off the to-do
list one little baby step at atime, then yes, it deserves
judgment.
SPEAKER_00 (11:26):
So to clarify, you're saying that uh I'm using
that as a distraction because Ihave a lot of stuff I'm doing?
SPEAKER_04 (11:32):
No, I'm giving you possible options of why it is in
your reality and breaking thosedown.
So to clarify, it is either inyour reality because it's time
for something to be brought toyour awareness that your guides
and counsel are trying to bringto your awareness that's
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attached to a belief pattern orprogram or circumstance or event
that needs your attention.
Okay.
B you are um it's it's in yourreality, and you're looking at
you're trying to be shown somesort of trauma emotion.
SPEAKER_00 (12:16):
I just said I don't ever have to silence my phone.
SPEAKER_04 (12:20):
But the funny thing is, I went ahead and put it on
airplane mode.
So how did that get through?
SPEAKER_00 (12:24):
Oh, I don't know.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_04 (12:27):
Well, see, remember back in the day we used to use
our phone noise as a clearingbell.
SPEAKER_00 (12:32):
We did.
You're right.
SPEAKER_04 (12:35):
Because it's on airplane.
I went ahead and did it eventhough you told me and I said
that.
SPEAKER_00 (12:40):
That's funny.
Um thank you, Spirit.
SPEAKER_04 (12:43):
Right.
So just by talking about it asyou see, things clear out of the
way.
Or C, subconsciously, you'reusing it as a distraction um
because you don't want to dealwith whatever you've got going
on.
I wasn't saying it was one orboth or all or any of that.
(13:03):
I was just giving youpossibilities of why we do what
we do.
SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (13:10):
And so then I went down the distraction part of it
and kind of define that a littleclearer is why do we distract
ourselves with time wasting kindof things that are not really
getting us where we need to go?
And sometimes that can bebecause you're feeling
overwhelmed with the tasks athand.
(13:31):
Yeah, sometimes following yourjoy feels fun, but then there's
parts of that that don't feel sofun.
Like, for example, I lovewriting articles, I love getting
that out, but editing it is notthe funnest part of that for me.
SPEAKER_00 (13:48):
Agree.
SPEAKER_04 (13:48):
I would love to just hand that off to somebody, they
edit it.
We used to do that, bring itback to me if it needs more
content or whatever.
So I will find myself leavingthe editing until the very last
stinking minute.
SPEAKER_01 (14:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (14:04):
Because I don't necessarily like that.
SPEAKER_01 (14:07):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (14:07):
So there are days where I have to make myself say,
okay, you know what?
Today's task day, we're gonnaput a smile on our face, put our
big girl panties on, and get ourtasks done because it feels
better when my plate's empty.
SPEAKER_00 (14:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (14:22):
So you may be Yeah, but when your plate's empty, my
plate gets full.
Yeah, when my inbox gets empty,your inbox gets full.
Yeah.
Right.
Uh, so you may be distractingyourself because you're kind of
in that overwhelm state of thesethings are not joyful.
So I don't really have a desireor a motivating nudge to get
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them done.
And then you let them pile up towhere they feel overwhelming.
SPEAKER_00 (14:49):
Well, that really doesn't resonate with me because
I don't feel well, that's fine.
SPEAKER_04 (14:53):
I'm just explaining it to the listeners on how that
might happen subconsciously.
So just to reiterate, if it's inyour reality, it's there for a
reason.
SPEAKER_02 (15:03):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (15:04):
Figuring out what the reason is, it is either
triggering you to deal with sometraumatic sore that needs
continued healing.
Yeah.
It's a belief that maybe isready to be cleaned up at the
next layer, onion layer.
SPEAKER_01 (15:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (15:23):
Or it's a time waster because you got a bunch
of shit on your to-do listthat's not fun.
SPEAKER_00 (15:28):
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah.
You know, that's what I do everymorning when I wake up, is I get
up at five o'clock in themorning.
I fix me a cup of coffee.
Generally, I get up around fivehere.
Lately, I've been kind ofsleeping in a little bit.
I kind of like it.
SPEAKER_05 (15:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (15:40):
I got in such a routine of getting up early all
of my life that it's hard tosleep past five or five thirty.
I I spend time with myself and Ilook at my whatever it is that's
come up in my reality that Ineed to look at and address and
and focus on.
And then I spend most of mymorning distracting myself while
my higher self works on whateverI'm bringing to my reality, and
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then normally something pops upthat says, Bing, this is what
we're working on.
And and so that's how my morninggoes.
And I catch myself in thosetimes in between um looking at
stuff to distract my mind.
And allowing my subconscioushigher self to do the work.
SPEAKER_04 (16:20):
Well, and some of it is a distraction, but we use,
and I say we meaning uh society.
You got a mouth in your pocket.
No.
We I said we we.
We we as I study humans andtheir behaviors, what I notice
is that we all use differentmodalities to let the intuitive
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information come through.
And there are times when peoplewatch the videos and they're
like, oh, you know what?
I watched this little short andthis is what came up for me.
SPEAKER_01 (16:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (16:55):
Because that's the way you can hear the information
the best at that moment.
So higher self, council members,whatever spiritually will bring
you the messages in the best waythat you can hear them and
understand them on whateverfrequency wave it can find for
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you at that moment.
SPEAKER_01 (17:17):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (17:17):
Be it whether you read it in a book and the book
fell off the shelf, be it aTikTok video, be it a YouTube
video, be it a radio station, abillboard sign, a podcast,
depending on where yourfrequency is on the topic and
what you've asked for or what iscoming up to be looked at
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depends on the type and modalityby which they bring the message
because they have to match thefrequency of the thing,
otherwise you won't see it.
SPEAKER_01 (17:51):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (17:52):
It's kind of like um if you have an issue or a
problem that holds a lowfrequency, and the solution
doesn't live at that samefrequency.
SPEAKER_01 (18:03):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (18:03):
So if you're confused about something and you
see it as a problem or an issue,you can't find the solution in
the same place that you findyourself in the problem.
SPEAKER_00 (18:17):
Yeah, I get it.
SPEAKER_04 (18:18):
So that's why we teach that you've got to stop
and soften the problem, softenthe focus of the issue so that
you can raise your frequency andallow the solution at a
different frequency to come inand align with it.
So you watch the videos becausethat's a frequency that it's
been brought in on.
SPEAKER_00 (18:39):
I I agree with you.
And it's like uh for me, that isit used to be when I would work
with my hands in the woodchopper, you know, building
things, I would use that time toreally spiritually check in with
myself.
It was kind of my littlemeditation.
SPEAKER_05 (18:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:52):
And that's what I've done now, but I've kind of
switched that over to where Imeditate with my mind while my
higher self is working.
And it is a very dedicated timefor me.
SPEAKER_04 (19:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:03):
Um uh when I get up in the morning, I like that that
quiet space, nobody else'senergy.
I like that time to myself.
Or anybody, you know, used to beanybody.
I mean, where we where wepreviously we were at, there was
hundreds of people there all thetime.
And so I had to get up that andget that because I never got
quiet time.
And so my and my quiet time isvery important to me, just like
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yours is.
We know you get your quiet time.
When I go take a shower, you getyour little time.
That's right.
Um, it is uh it's a great cycle.
And so within all that, I usethese things to distract my
mind.
And I would challenge everybody,by the way, to spend an hour by
yourself every single day.
It's a great time.
SPEAKER_04 (19:46):
Yeah, I definitely would suggest if you're not at a
place where you can find anhour, start with 15 minutes and
build up to 20 or 30.
Uh, and really, like you said,really find that pocket of time
where you can just sit withyourself quietly.
With your own energy, quiet noTV, no other people's energy.
SPEAKER_00 (20:08):
Like when I get up at five, it's completely dark.
There ain't nobody around, andthere's not even any noise.
It's quiet.
I like it.
SPEAKER_04 (20:15):
Right.
Because that way you can hearyour own frequency, you can hear
your own your own energy.
Yeah.
You can feel it.
SPEAKER_00 (20:24):
It's a very big time for clarity for me.
SPEAKER_04 (20:26):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (20:27):
Now, why you started using these videos because it
used to be I would sit and justplay games or something, you
know.
Um, and here lately I've beendoing these videos because of
the engagement that we've had onInstagram lately.
And using Instagram, uh, it'skind of for me too, another part
of it is that I enjoy is is I Irealize it teaches me um
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contrast.
SPEAKER_04 (20:51):
Oh, do tell.
SPEAKER_00 (20:52):
Like it teaches me that I don't have to live in
that environment, or I can livein that environment.
So I have balance within itbecause once it came to my
awareness, it was like, okay, sowhy was I doing that?
Oh, I get it.
Because it's teaching me thereality by which I don't want,
so I know the reality by which Ido want.
SPEAKER_04 (21:14):
Oh, yeah, kind of like a little pop quiz.
SPEAKER_00 (21:15):
Yeah, it's kind of like uh throwing it out there in
my reality.
And so not everything, becausethis is one thing that I hear a
lot when we work and talk topeople, is this happened to me,
or this happened to me, or thishappened to me.
And those are just little tests.
This it doesn't mean that youcreated that in your reality.
SPEAKER_04 (21:31):
Or that you're doing anything wrong.
SPEAKER_00 (21:33):
You're doing anything wrong.
It just means that's a littlepop quiz that you give yourself
that is thrown into yourreality, and it's not that it's
happening to you, you say thisall the time, but it's it's
happening for you.
SPEAKER_04 (21:44):
For you.
That's that's right.
SPEAKER_00 (21:46):
And so, like this morning when I was sitting out
there, I got about five minutesinto my into that my Instagram.
I was like, you know what?
I am not doing this today.
And so I went to playing my gameand and goofing off, and then
about ten minutes later, thisoverwhelming joy of appreciation
came over.
Yeah, came over me about uheverything that we're
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accomplishing in our life andhow we're helping so many people
every day.
And you know, it it's we getthanked all the time for helping
people.
It happened this morning.
I get I get two text messagesthis morning thanking me for
helping people and for helpingthem.
And that's all we do it for.
Like everybody says, Oh my god,you're so incredible.
You guys are so nice, and blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, that's just us.
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It's not that we don't we don'tneed you telling us thank you.
SPEAKER_04 (22:32):
Right, but it's a good reminder.
SPEAKER_00 (22:34):
It is, it's an appreciation, and they they
should hold that in their and wehave to be respectful of their
right.
SPEAKER_04 (22:41):
Not only that, but if you're not accepting the
appreciation when it's directedtowards you, you're not allowing
them to give appreciation andbuying the frequency of
appreciation.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (22:52):
No, I agree.
SPEAKER_04 (22:53):
And uh, you know, so that's just as important to be
receptive of the appreciationthat's being given because
you're allowing that person tolearn what the frequency of
appreciation is, yes, becausethat's a very high vibrational,
vibrational place to be.
SPEAKER_00 (23:11):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (23:12):
Appreciation is right up there with that love
and and all of that.
SPEAKER_00 (23:16):
Kind of our podcast on laughter, it's right there
with it.
SPEAKER_04 (23:18):
Yeah, yeah.
It's very, very high frequencyappreciation.
And so if they're givingappreciation to us and the
things that we do, that's themkind of putting on their
training wheels or remindingthemselves to be in the
vibration of appreciation.
SPEAKER_00 (23:35):
And that's where the the podcast to me is kind of
leading is into the um acceptingthe contrast of things and
understanding that if you don't,you know, everybody says, My
life is but I've heard this too,my life is such a roller coaster
or it's a yo-yo, or it'swhatever, it's always up and
down, it's never solid.
And the reality of it is ifeverybody had the perfectly
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level life and they did the samething every single day, we were
little robots, everybody wouldbe completely bored with their
life.
And so you are creating a worldof contrast because you have to
have the experiences based onyour contract.
SPEAKER_04 (24:14):
That's the piece that you want to embrace and and
acknowledge is we came to thisplanet Earth because it is an
amazing platform to be able toexperience so many different
variations and versions ofcontrast for growth.
(24:35):
Yep, that I mean, we there's nobetter place to do that because
there are so many, it's a it'sjust a buffet of contrast.
SPEAKER_01 (24:48):
What a big word.
Some people go to the buffet alot.
SPEAKER_04 (24:51):
Yeah, I mean, you get to go through literally a
buffet line and you get to justall you can eat what what you
want to experience.
And so if you've got some, youknow, little corner of your
process that's not quite clearto you, you may go and have a
little bit of an experience as aa reminder.
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Oh, yeah, you know what?
I'm gonna go back and retastemustard because I don't remember
what it tastes like.
And you put it on your burgerand you're like, yeah, you know
what?
No, I don't like that.
SPEAKER_01 (25:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (25:24):
So I'm gonna leave that off and I'm gonna stick
with my mayonnaise, ketchup, ornothing.
SPEAKER_00 (25:30):
And so the contrastal, contrastual
contrast, con the contrast ofconspiracy theories and those
kind of things that you see.
SPEAKER_04 (25:40):
Are you trying to say contractual?
SPEAKER_00 (25:42):
No, contrast I can't even say it.
It'll matter.
SPEAKER_04 (25:45):
It's because there's a word.
SPEAKER_00 (25:47):
The contrast.
SPEAKER_04 (25:48):
The contrastal contrastual.
SPEAKER_00 (25:50):
It's not a word.
It's my word.
I can have it.
There's no rules.
I can have my own rule.
James ism.
Somebody look at my owndictionary.
If you don't like it, then don'tlisten to it.
SPEAKER_04 (26:01):
Somebody look up that word.
Contrast.
SPEAKER_00 (26:08):
You can say contractual.
Why can't you say contrasttual?
SPEAKER_04 (26:11):
Contractual.
That's a different word.
SPEAKER_00 (26:14):
It is a different word.
It's got one letter different.
C.
It's got a C instead of an S.
It's the exact same word.
It's even spelled the same.
SPEAKER_04 (26:24):
Contrastural.
Contractual.
SPEAKER_00 (26:28):
But this is the conspiracy theories for me is a
is a contrast in my reality thatmakes me realize the bounce back
of things that I do.
Are those there for adistraction?
Yes, but they're not there forwhat you think they're there
for.
The contrast within them isn'tthe is the distraction itself
for your reality.
And you can engage in them allyou want.
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That's perfectly fine.
But in the it stop and askyourself, does this really
affect my life?
That's what I did.
Does this really affect my life?
Is this really part of what Iwant to do?
SPEAKER_04 (27:00):
Well, and two, this is one of the things I see
people trip up on.
They think that they've workedon a belief, they get it cleared
up, and then they still have anexperience that's very similar,
that's not quite comfortable.
SPEAKER_01 (27:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (27:17):
And they think, oh my God, I did it wrong, or I
didn't do it right, or I'm doingsomething wrong.
I didn't get all the beliefcleared out.
And the truth of that is thatthere is gap time.
SPEAKER_01 (27:32):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (27:33):
There's there's gonna be little pop quizzes.
Okay, so you wanted a non-dramalife in this section.
Let me give you this littlebrief experience just to make
sure that's what you wanted.
And uh so just because itdoesn't change instantaneously
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doesn't mean you did it wrong.
Right.
It means the energy's gotta havetime to spin down and spin out.
It means that you're gonna givebe given additional
opportunities to finalize yourselection, so to speak.
And then it's gonna you're I sayit, it's you putting together
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this chain of events.
Yeah, you're gonna give yourselflittle pop quizzes to test
yourself, yeah.
To see if you've changed thehabit within it, because you
see, once you've created abelief around something, then
you automatically create a habitbecause the the mind wants to be
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on autopilot as much aspossible, because that's easy.
SPEAKER_01 (28:42):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (28:43):
So once you create a belief, then you go
subconsciously into like a habitthat becomes then second nature,
uh autopilot kind of thing.
Right.
Well, when you go in and youupdate your processing system
and you redefine or eliminatebeliefs that no longer serve
you, if you don't go then andlook at the habit, which is now
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an autopilot, especially ifyou've been doing it for several
years, then the same types ofscenarios may continue to pop
up.
SPEAKER_01 (29:14):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (29:15):
So then you've got to go back and say, okay, did
all of the habit get changed?
SPEAKER_01 (29:20):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (29:20):
Right.
So uh for example, if you wantless gossip going on in your
bubble and you redefined thebelief that okay, um gossip
doesn't make life exciting andfun, right?
Like uh one of my guardians usedto live there.
(29:43):
Um a parent.
My mother loved to be part ofthe gossip world, so I learned
that from her.
Yeah.
So I gotta see what theneighbors are doing.
I gotta see what the people atthe bridge club are doing, and I
live in this world of a gossiploop.
SPEAKER_01 (29:57):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (29:57):
When you get older and you decide, you know what, I
I don't really like that crap.
You redefine the belief, andit's clean and clear now that
you don't want that.
SPEAKER_01 (30:08):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (30:09):
But then if you didn't go in and you don't
consciously aware of your habit,and you keep going to the water
hole where all the gossiphappens and not catch yourself
being there, or you keep findingyourself going to the group
who's standing around gossipingat work or whatever, and you
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continue the habit, right?
Then and you're not aware of itand you don't catch it and you
don't make yourself startchanging it, then you're still
kind of holding on to thatenergy loop through the habits.
That's why I say beliefs,patterns, and programs, because
the patterns, aka habits have tobe addressed as well.
SPEAKER_01 (30:52):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (30:53):
They you've got to you've got to address the
beliefs, you've got to get thoserewritten, you've got to address
the habits, and then anyprogramming, which is shit
you're reading on TV, the thepeople you're hanging around
with that keep telling you thesame crap, the words you're
telling yourself.
So that's the big one.
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That's programming that I talkabout when I say beliefs,
patterns, and programming.
You've got to start changing theprogramming.
Stop telling yourself I'm brokeor I'm I'm old or I'm old or
whatever that nonsense is.
SPEAKER_00 (31:29):
I've heard that one a lot.
I'm not smart.
SPEAKER_04 (31:30):
If you go in and delete the belief, but you're
still doing the habit and you'restill programming yourself with
the words coming out of your owndamn mouth, right?
You might as well just not evenbother.
SPEAKER_00 (31:41):
That's correct.
Yep.
Which is gonna be a step-by-stepprocess I release in my new
book, by the way.
Nice.
The other part of that that Iwant to add to is make the have
make sure everybody understandsthe one thing.
That contrast in your life isvery much normal.
How you perceive that contrastis where you have to look at
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your beliefs.
SPEAKER_04 (32:05):
That's right.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (32:07):
Because your perception of your the the
perception of your contrast thatyou that you actually view or
pay attention to is bringing toyour reality because there's
millions of contrast-ual I saidthe word again.
Contrastural situations that popup in your day.
SPEAKER_04 (32:24):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (32:26):
But not everything gets your attention.
SPEAKER_04 (32:28):
That's right.
SPEAKER_00 (32:29):
So when you when it does get your attention, you
have to say, hmm.
Why?
SPEAKER_04 (32:34):
That's right.
SPEAKER_00 (32:36):
And figure out why in that is do I need to look at
what contrast am I trying toexperience here?
SPEAKER_04 (32:43):
Right.
Why what is it showing me?
What is it symbolizing?
What is it mirroring to me?
Why did it grab my attention?
You're exactly right.
SPEAKER_00 (32:51):
And that's what I did when this when I would after
30 minutes sitting there, I waslike, why am I doing this?
It grabbed my attention.
And then so I was like, okay,because there are thousands
times a day I get distracted bysomething.
But it's it's not not always acontrast either.
It's sometimes it's just likeI'm distracted.
And so don't hold yourselfaccountable for having contrast
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until you perceive itdifferently.
You don't like that comment?
SPEAKER_04 (33:22):
I so you always hold yourself accountable.
SPEAKER_00 (33:26):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (33:26):
Well don't don't judge yourself wrong or right.
SPEAKER_00 (33:30):
Maybe I used the wrong word there.
SPEAKER_04 (33:31):
And so I think I think we I think it would be
better to clean that up.
So say what you said again.
SPEAKER_00 (33:38):
So don't what I said in exactly the same way.
Okay, so I said don't holdyourself accountable for the
perception of your contrast ofyour experience until you until
you change the perception on it.
SPEAKER_04 (33:49):
And so when you so holding yourself accountable,
you've got to hold yourselfaccountable.
If you don't, then you'llconvince yourself that it's like
like like you don't have to beresponsible.
SPEAKER_00 (34:03):
Well, where I was going with that was is
identifying why.
Then hold yourself accountablefor the why behind it.
Oh, okay, so I get it.
Now I understand why thiscontrast is in my life, why this
distraction is there, so tospeak.
And then then look at theperception and the beliefs
behind it.
Why did I perceive it this way?
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And what are my beliefs that arecausing me to perceive this
contrast in this way when it'sjust an experience?
SPEAKER_04 (34:31):
Right.
So I think a better way, andthis is just my opinion, I think
a better way to go about itwould be acknowledge it, which
makes you still stay accountablebecause if if you teach yourself
that you don't always have tohold yourself accountable, you
can get into some mucky water ifyou're not careful.
(34:51):
Oh, mucky water.
You then you've got to discernwhen it's okay to not hold
yourself accountable and whenyou must hold yourself
accountable.
Right.
And if you lose theaccountability, then you give
yourself a place to hidewhenever you are doing things
that are not beneficial for you.
SPEAKER_01 (35:09):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_04 (35:10):
So I I would say you always hold yourself
accountable, but you don'tnecessarily make any reactive or
responsive movements or actionsuntil you evaluate your
perspective of it.
SPEAKER_00 (35:27):
Agreed.
Agreed.
SPEAKER_04 (35:28):
That would be a better plan to me.
SPEAKER_00 (35:30):
Yes, I know I agree.
SPEAKER_04 (35:31):
So if you're experiencing a situation and you
notice that it's uncomfortable,or you're having uh an
experience of contrast that youdon't necessarily prefer, stop
and ask yourself, okay, whatperspective am I looking, what
lens am I looking at thisthrough?
Why is this uncomfortable to me?
SPEAKER_01 (35:52):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (35:53):
That keeps you accountable and it keeps you
aware and it keeps you in thatplace of being able to see it
when it happens, but then it itwill it will stop and provoke
you to ask questions of, okay,wait a minute, why did that make
me feel a certain way?
SPEAKER_01 (36:10):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (36:11):
Why why do I care?
What it it obviously jiggeredsomething around inside of me,
right?
And that's what you look at.
Then you go a little deeper andyou say, okay, well, am I
looking at this with a clearperspective, or is my
perspective skewed a little bit?
SPEAKER_01 (36:31):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (36:32):
And if it's skewed a little bit, is it because you're
pulling from an old file from apast experience that made it
uncomfortable?
SPEAKER_05 (36:41):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (36:41):
Are you still holding on to beliefs that are
maybe entangled with otherthings?
Or is it just a pop quiz thatsays, hey, we just wanted to
test to see if you had gottenrid of or redefined the beliefs.
You're working on your habitsand you're not letting the
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programs be uh implanted.
SPEAKER_00 (37:06):
Right.
No, I I am completely on boardwith you.
And there's one thing I think weneed to touch on.
SPEAKER_03 (37:11):
Sure.
SPEAKER_00 (37:12):
Is when that contrast comes into your
reality, most of the time youdon't perceive it or when that
distraction or contrast comesin.
You don't perceive it wrongunless there's an emotion
attached to it.
And that's when your emotionalguidance systems is is your way
to navigate your life thatyou've been given.
SPEAKER_05 (37:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (37:30):
And so if it creates an emotion, like on these some
of these conspiracy theories,I've seen people they'll reply
anger or sadness or whatever.
If it's bringing up an emotion,that's when that's when you need
to stop and say, okay, wait aminute, why am I why is this
making me angry?
This is a video on a phone or avideo on a computer that you
don't even know if it's real ornot.
SPEAKER_04 (37:50):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (37:51):
Why is it making me angry?
Why is it making me sad?
Why is it making me upset?
Because that's what brings itinto your true reality and your
perception of what's going on.
SPEAKER_04 (37:58):
Yeah, because I mean, if it's a topic that, say,
for example, brings you sadness,is it bringing you sadness
because you experienced asimilar situation that did make
you sad?
Um, perhaps because you perceiveuh the situation differently.
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Is it something that made youangry?
And anger is a good one.
So if you if it if it triggeredanger in you and you dig around
deep in it, were you in asimilar situation and it
embarrassed you, or it made youfeel like you were treated
unjustly, or something like thatthat would provoke anger, then
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you dive in and you deal withthat.
SPEAKER_01 (38:48):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (38:49):
And you figure out what are your beliefs around
just behavior.
SPEAKER_00 (38:54):
You know, for me, they're talking about these
conspiracy theory videos.
For me, the emotion that came upwithin me was mistrust.
SPEAKER_04 (39:01):
Oh, trust is a big one.
SPEAKER_00 (39:03):
And I I was you know, because I don't trust I
learned a long time ago, verylong time ago, you don't trust
everything you see on TV oranything you see on the
internet, or you don't trusteverything you read on the
internet.
And I was trying to build thatup because we're putting stuff
out on the internet, and I wantpeople to be able to trust what
we say.
SPEAKER_01 (39:21):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (39:21):
And so it it created a contrastial moment for me.
I used it again that caused anemotion of mistrust.
Like I don't trust what thesepeople are putting out.
I don't and so how are peoplegonna trust ours?
And so I had to work throughthat belief system.
SPEAKER_04 (39:36):
Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (39:37):
And and I'm not telling you that I'm not telling
anybody out there that thatwe're 100% right about anything.
But what I am telling you is isthere's ways of figuring out
what's right by the processes bywhich we give you.
SPEAKER_04 (39:48):
Right.
And they work for us.
SPEAKER_00 (39:50):
Right.
And they and they do work 100%for us.
SPEAKER_04 (39:52):
You build your own trust.
SPEAKER_00 (39:54):
This thought process turned my life around too.
SPEAKER_04 (39:58):
Testing.
SPEAKER_00 (39:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (40:00):
Does this work for me?
And if it doesn't, file 13 inman.
SPEAKER_00 (40:04):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (40:04):
But don't uh not try it.
SPEAKER_00 (40:06):
Right, I agree.
And and just know this, I think,is is the last thing I would
touch on with the grinderstoday.
Is that the result that comesout of this stuff once you look
at it, is okay.
Whatever it is that you'reworking on, you know, don't get
mad at yourself for getting madabout it if it pops back up in
your reality.
Um just trust in the process andlook at the belief or the
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emotion that causes the beliefor the belief that causes the
emotion behind it.
SPEAKER_04 (40:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (40:34):
And it's okay.
It is okay.
You know, we're here for theexperience of life.
We're here to add to thecollective consciousness for in
this in this realm, and then wewe jump back and forth in
dimensions, and you know, weteach each dimension everything
that we bring with us.
And it's okay to have thoseexperiences.
It's okay to have that contrastin your life.
SPEAKER_04 (40:54):
Yeah, because you know, even saying I'm having a
human perspective in it, that'sanother topic that we'll have to
come at.
SPEAKER_00 (41:06):
Yeah, that's a big one.
Exactly.
We we do it our I mean, I I doit all the time.
SPEAKER_04 (41:10):
Yeah, it's it's a it's an excuse because you're
judging some.
Yeah, you're giving yourself anexcuse to have an emotional.
That's the point of this wholegame.
Yep.
And if you're judging yourself,you're making it okay by saying,
Oh, I was being so human in thatmoment.
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That really is saying toyourself inside that you're
judging that as right and wrongor not doing it perfectly or
correctly or accurately.
So just be careful with that.
I got asked at it.
SPEAKER_00 (41:43):
I got asked the other day is how how are you and
I so confident in ourspiritualism?
SPEAKER_04 (41:48):
And it's pretty so confident.
SPEAKER_00 (41:49):
Yeah, how are we so confident?
And I I can identify that, and Iwouldn't throw this in because I
know the person that asked melistens.
And it's very simple is when yougo through these processes the
way we teach you guys, then youget this inner confidence inside
of you.
SPEAKER_04 (42:06):
Yeah, you so confidence comes from doing
seeing the results and gettingvalidation for the results.
Yes.
That builds confidence.
SPEAKER_00 (42:16):
Yep, I agree.
SPEAKER_04 (42:18):
And so just like with your intuition, very
similar to like a new job.
When you first go to your newjob, you're not confident and
you're uncertain, and there's anunknown.
But the as each day passes andyou learn more about your job,
and you're able to do thosetasks perfectly and beautifully
and correctly, time and timeagain, to where they're just
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natural, you know them like youknow the back of your hand,
you're very confident in yourjob and your ability to do it.
Correct, especially if you'vebeen doing it for years and some
new person comes in, yourconfidence really shines through
because you're like, Yeah, thisis easy.
I I'm fully confident in my job.
SPEAKER_01 (43:02):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (43:02):
Well, our spiritual practice is no different when
when you have to remember, youand I both have been doing this
since we were we ones.
Yes, right.
And uh the more you practice it,the more you're given validation
by your higher self, and you areyou allow those frequencies and
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those experiences to come in andyou get validation, the more
confident that you're gonna be,and nobody can shake that from
you.
SPEAKER_01 (43:31):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (43:31):
Because unfortunately, we're a seeing is
believing crowd.
SPEAKER_01 (43:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (43:39):
And so you'll test yourself and you'll you'll go
along your practice, especiallyif you're new, looking for
validation.
And that's when that ball, thatbook, for example, will pop off
the shelf and give you exactlythe script that you needed to
read when you're toggling arounda topic in your head, or that
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feather will be on the ground infront of you that represents,
hey, you're on the right path,or uh a hello from your spirit
guides.
Yeah.
Right.
So for me, I use the feather.
Right.
And and whenever one comesacross my path, it's either A
telling me, Yep, you're on theright path, keep going, or it's
a hey, hello, we're still withyou.
SPEAKER_05 (44:22):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (44:23):
That's what I use the feather for.
SPEAKER_05 (44:24):
Great.
SPEAKER_04 (44:25):
And so anytime I am subconsciously questioning any
either one of those two topics,every single time I'll get a
feather.
SPEAKER_00 (44:34):
Yeah.
Yesterday you got one.
SPEAKER_04 (44:35):
I did.
And and so it's just thatrepresents to me.
So that's how we get confidentin anything, not just our
spiritual beliefs, is thatwhenever you practice them
enough and you get enoughvalidation, you begin to believe
that.
SPEAKER_01 (44:51):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_04 (44:52):
All all across the board, not just in certain
topics.
SPEAKER_01 (44:56):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (44:56):
Because there are some topics that we still I I
can only speak for myself.
There are a few topics that I'mstill kind of wobbly in.
Um on an occasion, I still needclarification on, but I am a
pretty big stickler and veryconfident in my abilities to
interact and communicate with myguides and my counsels and my
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body.
SPEAKER_00 (45:19):
Right.
No, it's practice.
I agree.
It takes practice andvalidation.
SPEAKER_04 (45:26):
Right.
You find a process that worksfor you, you do your process.
That's another thing that Ithink we do consistently that we
don't let the outside worldinterfere with is our personal
process and our joint process.
SPEAKER_01 (45:40):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (45:40):
You know, like in the mornings we sit and have our
coffee talk as a as a unit, ayou and I, but then like you
were describing earlier, we haveour own individual process.
SPEAKER_00 (45:52):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (45:53):
To where we get 30 minutes or an hour alone time to
just work our own individualprocess, and we do that every
single day.
And for me, I've been doing thatevery single day for 40 years.
SPEAKER_00 (46:10):
Mine was on and off for a while.
SPEAKER_04 (46:12):
Yeah, there's there were moments where I strayed
away from it, small snippets,but overall, collectively, I
would say I for a good 40 yearsof that time, I have worked a
process of some sort.
Now it's not the same as it was.
It changes.
SPEAKER_01 (46:32):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (46:33):
And it changes based on where I'm at in my evolution.
Yeah.
As I evolve, we change and ourprocesses change, and that's
okay.
And you gotta allow that tohappen.
SPEAKER_00 (46:47):
Agreed.
So agreed.
Well, I feel complete.
Do you feel complete?
SPEAKER_04 (46:52):
I am always good to go, yo.
SPEAKER_00 (46:54):
Yo, yo, yo, yo.
Hey guys, we appreciate y'alllistening.
Remember, contrast is okay.
SPEAKER_04 (47:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:02):
Having emotions based on the contrast is okay.
And if you think it's adistraction, it probably is.
And you just gotta figure outwhy.
SPEAKER_04 (47:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:12):
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That's t-h e m-e-r-c, c nt-e-r-s.org.
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It'd be the easiest way.
The website's on there.
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SPEAKER_02 (47:37):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (47:37):
And there's a uh link that uh from the website
you can get to it.
And uh watch for our new appthat's gonna be rolling out, the
salty tarot.
SPEAKER_04 (47:46):
Yeah, yeah.
Got the books, uh, the books upon Amazon.
SPEAKER_00 (47:50):
Yeah, your book's back up on Amazon.
We got that fixed.
Uh uh mine will be uploaded thenext day or two completely, and
my new book I'm gonna try tofinish in the next week.
SPEAKER_05 (47:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:59):
Because I've I've got about 11 days left of
writing on it.
So eleven days of thestep-by-step process.
But it's gonna be calledUnlocked.
SPEAKER_03 (48:08):
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How to unlock your true purpose.
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SPEAKER_04 (48:25):
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We appreciate y'all listening, and y'all have an
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Love ya.
Good morning, everybody.
Welcome back to the SpiritualGrind.
We are here today in DaytonaBeach.
How about a great it's been somebeautiful weather.
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There's Dr.
Ginny sneaking in from the back.
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Good morning.
So I have a great topic.
SPEAKER_00 (00:49):
I have a great topic today.
Ooh, do tell this is somethingthat you know for the grinders
out there that listen is part ofour life, and it is something
that in our reality that is thatwe deal with on a daily basis.
And I see a lot of people thatdeal with it as well.
(01:10):
And that is societaldistraction.
And let me let me de dive alittle bit into this.
SPEAKER_04 (01:21):
Deve into it.
SPEAKER_00 (01:23):
You know, when you're promoting a business
online, you you have to get onInstagram and Facebook and all
that stuff.
And you have a million thingsthat you have to tag together
because, you know, that's howyou grow your listeners and
those things.
And since I've been engaged morein Instagram and Facebook, I've
seen a lot of these things goingon that are conspiracy theories
and societal distractions.
(01:45):
And why that's the real purposeof this podcast is why do we,
first of all, allow thedistractions.
And second of all, why wouldsociety be distracting us?
It's a it could be a very, verydeep topic today.
(02:07):
You know, like there's the mainconspiracy that's going around
right now, there's two things.
One is the the Charlie Kirkmurder.
You know, they're they're sayingit's conspiracy theories, and
there's all these videos thatcome up that that he was a
Freemason and blah blah blahblah blah blah, this other
stuff.
And you know, and then the otherone is these videos are starting
(02:28):
to resurface of the 9-11attacks.
So you gotta ask yourself why.
First of all, why do you allowyourself to get sucked into that
trap?
And second of all, why wouldsociety be distracting us?
SPEAKER_04 (02:40):
I don't know.
Why do you?
SPEAKER_00 (02:41):
I don't Well, you know, we had a conversation
about conspiracy theories theother day.
SPEAKER_04 (02:47):
We did that you activated.
I don't.
I don't even I listen to whatyou bring to the table a lot of
times, but I I mean I'm I'm justdigging it, yeah.
I'm just having fun.
It's all good.
Yeah.
Um everybody has something thatthey like to play with and toy
(03:10):
with.
I think it's a little bitdifferent for me personally,
because I have a differentviewpoint of the whole
mechanism.
SPEAKER_00 (03:20):
And uh that's why I'm bringing it to the table so
you can give your viewpoint tothe grinders out there.
SPEAKER_04 (03:26):
I get it.
It's not time yet, though.
Continue on.
SPEAKER_00 (03:28):
So the the part of it for me is I was sitting there
watching all this stuff and allthese shenanigans and all these
so-called experts, and they haveall this stuff that they do and
can do and know and blah blahblah blah blah.
And you just stop and say toyourself, is this really what we
(03:49):
should be paying attention to?
Is it really what we need to bepaying attention to?
Because the reality is, is yeah,like Charlie Kirk, he was a very
well-known online influencer andand held expos and conventions
all over the world and very wellknown.
And uh he was a great podcaster.
(04:10):
You know, he spoke his truth,and that's what we're about, is
speaking truth and allowing itour own version, having free
speech and having the ability todo and say whatever we want to
do because of our constitutionalrights.
And that's what he kind ofenforced was constitutional
rights and those things.
But his death.
So we when we talk about hisdeath, and you see all these
(04:31):
conspiracy theories, do Ibelieve any of this stuff?
Heck, I don't know.
I don't really know.
I just know I wasted 30 minutesof my time looking at stupid
stuff.
SPEAKER_04 (04:41):
What do you mean?
SPEAKER_00 (04:44):
And looking at the conspiracies behind it and
watching it on little 30 secondvideos over and over and over.
And I at the end of that 30minutes, I looked at myself
like, what are you doing?
You're an idiot.
Why are you even payingattention to this?
Well because it don't reallymatter in the big scheme of
things.
SPEAKER_04 (04:58):
I mean, for yourself, yeah.
Why, why is a good question.
SPEAKER_01 (05:02):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (05:03):
Why why that's what is it triggering?
What is it pointing to?
What is it mirroring?
What does it represent?
There's some reason why itcaught your attention.
There's some reason why you andyou brought yourself to the
table as uh uh an example.
Right.
So that's why I'm using you.
There's some reason why it'sheld your attention for a
(05:26):
minute, him specifically.
SPEAKER_00 (05:27):
Yeah, I've been watching him for a while.
SPEAKER_04 (05:29):
And so you're, I mean, you're right.
What asking yourself why,because otherwise, if if it
wasn't triggering something,mirroring something,
symbolically pointing tosomething else, you would not it
wouldn't even phase you.
It'd just be another littleshort that you flip through and
(05:51):
it's no big deal.
And you listen to the content tosee if it's uh something useful
or not.
And if it's not, just grow alawn.
So why for you does he hold sucha big point of attraction right
now in your bubble?
SPEAKER_00 (06:08):
Well, you know, I have it uh I I have I've kind of
veered away from it since I'vehad this thought in my head.
But the point of it for me is islike you just said, it's why am
I am I giving this my time?
And I would challenge everybodyout there to stop and ask
yourself, why are you givingyour thoughts and your time to
that when you could be using itelsewhere?
Because in my thought process Iknow that things happen and
(06:34):
things are there, but it's allhuman.
And so on the big scheme ofthings, this reality in this
realm is not dictated by whatyou see on TikTok.
It's dictated from what's insideof you.
SPEAKER_04 (06:49):
Maybe maybe we can we can dive in and break it
down.
Break her down and and see whatwe can do.
Break it down.
See what we come up with.
Because in even in the bigscheme of things, uh we'll use
what's his name?
Charlie Cock.
SPEAKER_00 (07:09):
Charlie Kirk.
SPEAKER_04 (07:10):
Kirk.
I don't even know who the guyis.
We use him as an example, andwe'll use you an example.
There's some reason why it itrang your bell.
And your higher self, yourcounsels, your spirit guides,
any of that, your intuition, allof that that's guiding and
directing you along your path,all along the way of your whole
(07:32):
entire life existence, is doingthings for reasons.
They don't just do thingsrandomly to laugh at you or to
just get a kick out of it.
They're guiding you through.
So if it has your attentionright this moment, then it's
trying to show you something.
SPEAKER_00 (07:52):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (07:52):
It's either trying to show you something in your
beliefs and patterns andprograms that it's time to look
at and maybe redefine orconsider leveling up or
something.
SPEAKER_02 (08:04):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (08:05):
Or it's triggering some sort of personal experience
that left some sort of traumaspace, and it may be time to
look at that for furtherhealing.
Or you may just find that it'sinteresting and it's a joy to
listen to that and to play thegame of Sherlock Holmes and see
(08:31):
if you can figure it out.
Like it may be a point ofenjoyment, and and that's why
you're doing it.
SPEAKER_00 (08:40):
Well, yeah, uh, I've always been the investigative
kind of I like to investigateand figure out problems.
That's kind of been me for mostof my life.
SPEAKER_04 (08:47):
Yeah.
So when you ask yourself why,don't I would advise not to
judge why am I wasting time onthis stupid shit?
It served some sort of purposeor it wouldn't be in your
reality.
And if it's in your reality andit's got your attention, then
(09:08):
it's there for a reason.
SPEAKER_00 (09:09):
Yeah, there's parts of it that really grab my
attention.
And you know, we've preached fora long time that this reality is
just a hologram.
It's just, you know, it's allfake, it's all what we create.
And a lot of this in this issaying it's movie and theatrical
and it's holographic and it'syou know, all of this stuff, and
so you're kind of like, hmm,yeah, it could be, you know, it
(09:29):
could be, it could not be.
Who c uh but the the pointbehind it for me is you're
right.
It why are the beliefs within meallowing me to be engaged in
this thing?
And this is what I'm that's whatthe challenge is out there to
listeners, is identify thosethings in your life that are
just time wasters.
(09:50):
And if you're doing it onpurpose, that's one thing.
But if you catch yourself 30minutes into doing something
like I did and say, What have Ibeen wasting my time doing?
SPEAKER_04 (09:59):
You know, there's something there's you know, time
wasting and judging it as timewasting is a two-fold
perspective as well.
It would not have come into yourreality unless it was something
that needed your awareness.
SPEAKER_01 (10:14):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (10:15):
And if you were not meant to spend some time with
it, it wouldn't be taking yourtime.
You would not give it your time.
SPEAKER_00 (10:25):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_04 (10:26):
Unless you have things that are on your plate,
on your to-do list that youdon't want to do, or you're
overwhelmed and don't know whatto do, you'll find things to
distract you from thatsubconsciously.
(10:46):
So you gotta identify okay, am Iin that overwhelmed state and
I'm distracting myselfsubconsciously, so I don't have
to go deal with this, this, andthis because I don't know how,
or I feel overwhelmed, deer inthe headlight feeling, then yes,
it's not necessarily abeneficial thing and catching
(11:07):
yourself doing it and bringingyourself back around and saying,
Okay, you know what?
Let me take one thing at a time.
I'll feel better if I get itdone and get it off the to-do
list one little baby step at atime, then yes, it deserves
judgment.
SPEAKER_00 (11:26):
So to clarify, you're saying that uh I'm using
that as a distraction because Ihave a lot of stuff I'm doing?
SPEAKER_04 (11:32):
No, I'm giving you possible options of why it is in
your reality and breaking thosedown.
So to clarify, it is either inyour reality because it's time
for something to be brought toyour awareness that your guides
and counsel are trying to bringto your awareness that's
(11:55):
attached to a belief pattern orprogram or circumstance or event
that needs your attention.
Okay.
B you are um it's it's in yourreality, and you're looking at
you're trying to be shown somesort of trauma emotion.
SPEAKER_00 (12:16):
I just said I don't ever have to silence my phone.
SPEAKER_04 (12:20):
But the funny thing is, I went ahead and put it on
airplane mode.
So how did that get through?
SPEAKER_00 (12:24):
Oh, I don't know.
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_04 (12:27):
Well, see, remember back in the day we used to use
our phone noise as a clearingbell.
SPEAKER_00 (12:32):
We did.
You're right.
SPEAKER_04 (12:35):
Because it's on airplane.
I went ahead and did it eventhough you told me and I said
that.
SPEAKER_00 (12:40):
That's funny.
Um thank you, Spirit.
SPEAKER_04 (12:43):
Right.
So just by talking about it asyou see, things clear out of the
way.
Or C, subconsciously, you'reusing it as a distraction um
because you don't want to dealwith whatever you've got going
on.
I wasn't saying it was one orboth or all or any of that.
(13:03):
I was just giving youpossibilities of why we do what
we do.
SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (13:10):
And so then I went down the distraction part of it
and kind of define that a littleclearer is why do we distract
ourselves with time wasting kindof things that are not really
getting us where we need to go?
And sometimes that can bebecause you're feeling
overwhelmed with the tasks athand.
(13:31):
Yeah, sometimes following yourjoy feels fun, but then there's
parts of that that don't feel sofun.
Like, for example, I lovewriting articles, I love getting
that out, but editing it is notthe funnest part of that for me.
SPEAKER_00 (13:48):
Agree.
SPEAKER_04 (13:48):
I would love to just hand that off to somebody, they
edit it.
We used to do that, bring itback to me if it needs more
content or whatever.
So I will find myself leavingthe editing until the very last
stinking minute.
SPEAKER_01 (14:03):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (14:04):
Because I don't necessarily like that.
SPEAKER_01 (14:07):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (14:07):
So there are days where I have to make myself say,
okay, you know what?
Today's task day, we're gonnaput a smile on our face, put our
big girl panties on, and get ourtasks done because it feels
better when my plate's empty.
SPEAKER_00 (14:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (14:22):
So you may be Yeah, but when your plate's empty, my
plate gets full.
Yeah, when my inbox gets empty,your inbox gets full.
Yeah.
Right.
Uh, so you may be distractingyourself because you're kind of
in that overwhelm state of thesethings are not joyful.
So I don't really have a desireor a motivating nudge to get
(14:44):
them done.
And then you let them pile up towhere they feel overwhelming.
SPEAKER_00 (14:49):
Well, that really doesn't resonate with me because
I don't feel well, that's fine.
SPEAKER_04 (14:53):
I'm just explaining it to the listeners on how that
might happen subconsciously.
So just to reiterate, if it's inyour reality, it's there for a
reason.
SPEAKER_02 (15:03):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (15:04):
Figuring out what the reason is, it is either
triggering you to deal with sometraumatic sore that needs
continued healing.
Yeah.
It's a belief that maybe isready to be cleaned up at the
next layer, onion layer.
SPEAKER_01 (15:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (15:23):
Or it's a time waster because you got a bunch
of shit on your to-do listthat's not fun.
SPEAKER_00 (15:28):
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah.
You know, that's what I do everymorning when I wake up, is I get
up at five o'clock in themorning.
I fix me a cup of coffee.
Generally, I get up around fivehere.
Lately, I've been kind ofsleeping in a little bit.
I kind of like it.
SPEAKER_05 (15:39):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (15:40):
I got in such a routine of getting up early all
of my life that it's hard tosleep past five or five thirty.
I I spend time with myself and Ilook at my whatever it is that's
come up in my reality that Ineed to look at and address and
and focus on.
And then I spend most of mymorning distracting myself while
my higher self works on whateverI'm bringing to my reality, and
(16:00):
then normally something pops upthat says, Bing, this is what
we're working on.
And and so that's how my morninggoes.
And I catch myself in thosetimes in between um looking at
stuff to distract my mind.
And allowing my subconscioushigher self to do the work.
SPEAKER_04 (16:20):
Well, and some of it is a distraction, but we use,
and I say we meaning uh society.
You got a mouth in your pocket.
No.
We I said we we.
We we as I study humans andtheir behaviors, what I notice
is that we all use differentmodalities to let the intuitive
(16:44):
information come through.
And there are times when peoplewatch the videos and they're
like, oh, you know what?
I watched this little short andthis is what came up for me.
SPEAKER_01 (16:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (16:55):
Because that's the way you can hear the information
the best at that moment.
So higher self, council members,whatever spiritually will bring
you the messages in the best waythat you can hear them and
understand them on whateverfrequency wave it can find for
(17:15):
you at that moment.
SPEAKER_01 (17:17):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (17:17):
Be it whether you read it in a book and the book
fell off the shelf, be it aTikTok video, be it a YouTube
video, be it a radio station, abillboard sign, a podcast,
depending on where yourfrequency is on the topic and
what you've asked for or what iscoming up to be looked at
(17:42):
depends on the type and modalityby which they bring the message
because they have to match thefrequency of the thing,
otherwise you won't see it.
SPEAKER_01 (17:51):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (17:52):
It's kind of like um if you have an issue or a
problem that holds a lowfrequency, and the solution
doesn't live at that samefrequency.
SPEAKER_01 (18:03):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (18:03):
So if you're confused about something and you
see it as a problem or an issue,you can't find the solution in
the same place that you findyourself in the problem.
SPEAKER_00 (18:17):
Yeah, I get it.
SPEAKER_04 (18:18):
So that's why we teach that you've got to stop
and soften the problem, softenthe focus of the issue so that
you can raise your frequency andallow the solution at a
different frequency to come inand align with it.
So you watch the videos becausethat's a frequency that it's
been brought in on.
SPEAKER_00 (18:39):
I I agree with you.
And it's like uh for me, that isit used to be when I would work
with my hands in the woodchopper, you know, building
things, I would use that time toreally spiritually check in with
myself.
It was kind of my littlemeditation.
SPEAKER_05 (18:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:52):
And that's what I've done now, but I've kind of
switched that over to where Imeditate with my mind while my
higher self is working.
And it is a very dedicated timefor me.
SPEAKER_04 (19:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:03):
Um uh when I get up in the morning, I like that that
quiet space, nobody else'senergy.
I like that time to myself.
Or anybody, you know, used to beanybody.
I mean, where we where wepreviously we were at, there was
hundreds of people there all thetime.
And so I had to get up that andget that because I never got
quiet time.
And so my and my quiet time isvery important to me, just like
(19:26):
yours is.
We know you get your quiet time.
When I go take a shower, you getyour little time.
That's right.
Um, it is uh it's a great cycle.
And so within all that, I usethese things to distract my
mind.
And I would challenge everybody,by the way, to spend an hour by
yourself every single day.
It's a great time.
SPEAKER_04 (19:46):
Yeah, I definitely would suggest if you're not at a
place where you can find anhour, start with 15 minutes and
build up to 20 or 30.
Uh, and really, like you said,really find that pocket of time
where you can just sit withyourself quietly.
With your own energy, quiet noTV, no other people's energy.
SPEAKER_00 (20:08):
Like when I get up at five, it's completely dark.
There ain't nobody around, andthere's not even any noise.
It's quiet.
I like it.
SPEAKER_04 (20:15):
Right.
Because that way you can hearyour own frequency, you can hear
your own your own energy.
Yeah.
You can feel it.
SPEAKER_00 (20:24):
It's a very big time for clarity for me.
SPEAKER_04 (20:26):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (20:27):
Now, why you started using these videos because it
used to be I would sit and justplay games or something, you
know.
Um, and here lately I've beendoing these videos because of
the engagement that we've had onInstagram lately.
And using Instagram, uh, it'skind of for me too, another part
of it is that I enjoy is is I Irealize it teaches me um
(20:49):
contrast.
SPEAKER_04 (20:51):
Oh, do tell.
SPEAKER_00 (20:52):
Like it teaches me that I don't have to live in
that environment, or I can livein that environment.
So I have balance within itbecause once it came to my
awareness, it was like, okay, sowhy was I doing that?
Oh, I get it.
Because it's teaching me thereality by which I don't want,
so I know the reality by which Ido want.
SPEAKER_04 (21:14):
Oh, yeah, kind of like a little pop quiz.
SPEAKER_00 (21:15):
Yeah, it's kind of like uh throwing it out there in
my reality.
And so not everything, becausethis is one thing that I hear a
lot when we work and talk topeople, is this happened to me,
or this happened to me, or thishappened to me.
And those are just little tests.
This it doesn't mean that youcreated that in your reality.
SPEAKER_04 (21:31):
Or that you're doing anything wrong.
SPEAKER_00 (21:33):
You're doing anything wrong.
It just means that's a littlepop quiz that you give yourself
that is thrown into yourreality, and it's not that it's
happening to you, you say thisall the time, but it's it's
happening for you.
SPEAKER_04 (21:44):
For you.
That's that's right.
SPEAKER_00 (21:46):
And so, like this morning when I was sitting out
there, I got about five minutesinto my into that my Instagram.
I was like, you know what?
I am not doing this today.
And so I went to playing my gameand and goofing off, and then
about ten minutes later, thisoverwhelming joy of appreciation
came over.
Yeah, came over me about uheverything that we're
(22:08):
accomplishing in our life andhow we're helping so many people
every day.
And you know, it it's we getthanked all the time for helping
people.
It happened this morning.
I get I get two text messagesthis morning thanking me for
helping people and for helpingthem.
And that's all we do it for.
Like everybody says, Oh my god,you're so incredible.
You guys are so nice, and blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'm like, that's just us.
(22:29):
It's not that we don't we don'tneed you telling us thank you.
SPEAKER_04 (22:32):
Right, but it's a good reminder.
SPEAKER_00 (22:34):
It is, it's an appreciation, and they they
should hold that in their and wehave to be respectful of their
right.
SPEAKER_04 (22:41):
Not only that, but if you're not accepting the
appreciation when it's directedtowards you, you're not allowing
them to give appreciation andbuying the frequency of
appreciation.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (22:52):
No, I agree.
SPEAKER_04 (22:53):
And uh, you know, so that's just as important to be
receptive of the appreciationthat's being given because
you're allowing that person tolearn what the frequency of
appreciation is, yes, becausethat's a very high vibrational,
vibrational place to be.
SPEAKER_00 (23:11):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (23:12):
Appreciation is right up there with that love
and and all of that.
SPEAKER_00 (23:16):
Kind of our podcast on laughter, it's right there
with it.
SPEAKER_04 (23:18):
Yeah, yeah.
It's very, very high frequencyappreciation.
And so if they're givingappreciation to us and the
things that we do, that's themkind of putting on their
training wheels or remindingthemselves to be in the
vibration of appreciation.
SPEAKER_00 (23:35):
And that's where the the podcast to me is kind of
leading is into the um acceptingthe contrast of things and
understanding that if you don't,you know, everybody says, My
life is but I've heard this too,my life is such a roller coaster
or it's a yo-yo, or it'swhatever, it's always up and
down, it's never solid.
And the reality of it is ifeverybody had the perfectly
(23:58):
level life and they did the samething every single day, we were
little robots, everybody wouldbe completely bored with their
life.
And so you are creating a worldof contrast because you have to
have the experiences based onyour contract.
SPEAKER_04 (24:14):
That's the piece that you want to embrace and and
acknowledge is we came to thisplanet Earth because it is an
amazing platform to be able toexperience so many different
variations and versions ofcontrast for growth.
(24:35):
Yep, that I mean, we there's nobetter place to do that because
there are so many, it's a it'sjust a buffet of contrast.
SPEAKER_01 (24:48):
What a big word.
Some people go to the buffet alot.
SPEAKER_04 (24:51):
Yeah, I mean, you get to go through literally a
buffet line and you get to justall you can eat what what you
want to experience.
And so if you've got some, youknow, little corner of your
process that's not quite clearto you, you may go and have a
little bit of an experience as aa reminder.
(25:13):
Oh, yeah, you know what?
I'm gonna go back and retastemustard because I don't remember
what it tastes like.
And you put it on your burgerand you're like, yeah, you know
what?
No, I don't like that.
SPEAKER_01 (25:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (25:24):
So I'm gonna leave that off and I'm gonna stick
with my mayonnaise, ketchup, ornothing.
SPEAKER_00 (25:30):
And so the contrastal, contrastual
contrast, con the contrast ofconspiracy theories and those
kind of things that you see.
SPEAKER_04 (25:40):
Are you trying to say contractual?
SPEAKER_00 (25:42):
No, contrast I can't even say it.
It'll matter.
SPEAKER_04 (25:45):
It's because there's a word.
SPEAKER_00 (25:47):
The contrast.
SPEAKER_04 (25:48):
The contrastal contrastual.
SPEAKER_00 (25:50):
It's not a word.
It's my word.
I can have it.
There's no rules.
I can have my own rule.
James ism.
Somebody look at my owndictionary.
If you don't like it, then don'tlisten to it.
SPEAKER_04 (26:01):
Somebody look up that word.
Contrast.
SPEAKER_00 (26:08):
You can say contractual.
Why can't you say contrasttual?
SPEAKER_04 (26:11):
Contractual.
That's a different word.
SPEAKER_00 (26:14):
It is a different word.
It's got one letter different.
C.
It's got a C instead of an S.
It's the exact same word.
It's even spelled the same.
SPEAKER_04 (26:24):
Contrastural.
Contractual.
SPEAKER_00 (26:28):
But this is the conspiracy theories for me is a
is a contrast in my reality thatmakes me realize the bounce back
of things that I do.
Are those there for adistraction?
Yes, but they're not there forwhat you think they're there
for.
The contrast within them isn'tthe is the distraction itself
for your reality.
And you can engage in them allyou want.
(26:49):
That's perfectly fine.
But in the it stop and askyourself, does this really
affect my life?
That's what I did.
Does this really affect my life?
Is this really part of what Iwant to do?
SPEAKER_04 (27:00):
Well, and two, this is one of the things I see
people trip up on.
They think that they've workedon a belief, they get it cleared
up, and then they still have anexperience that's very similar,
that's not quite comfortable.
SPEAKER_01 (27:17):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (27:17):
And they think, oh my God, I did it wrong, or I
didn't do it right, or I'm doingsomething wrong.
I didn't get all the beliefcleared out.
And the truth of that is thatthere is gap time.
SPEAKER_01 (27:32):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (27:33):
There's there's gonna be little pop quizzes.
Okay, so you wanted a non-dramalife in this section.
Let me give you this littlebrief experience just to make
sure that's what you wanted.
And uh so just because itdoesn't change instantaneously
(27:55):
doesn't mean you did it wrong.
Right.
It means the energy's gotta havetime to spin down and spin out.
It means that you're gonna givebe given additional
opportunities to finalize yourselection, so to speak.
And then it's gonna you're I sayit, it's you putting together
(28:17):
this chain of events.
Yeah, you're gonna give yourselflittle pop quizzes to test
yourself, yeah.
To see if you've changed thehabit within it, because you
see, once you've created abelief around something, then
you automatically create a habitbecause the the mind wants to be
(28:38):
on autopilot as much aspossible, because that's easy.
SPEAKER_01 (28:42):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (28:43):
So once you create a belief, then you go
subconsciously into like a habitthat becomes then second nature,
uh autopilot kind of thing.
Right.
Well, when you go in and youupdate your processing system
and you redefine or eliminatebeliefs that no longer serve
you, if you don't go then andlook at the habit, which is now
(29:04):
an autopilot, especially ifyou've been doing it for several
years, then the same types ofscenarios may continue to pop
up.
SPEAKER_01 (29:14):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (29:15):
So then you've got to go back and say, okay, did
all of the habit get changed?
SPEAKER_01 (29:20):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (29:20):
Right.
So uh for example, if you wantless gossip going on in your
bubble and you redefined thebelief that okay, um gossip
doesn't make life exciting andfun, right?
Like uh one of my guardians usedto live there.
(29:43):
Um a parent.
My mother loved to be part ofthe gossip world, so I learned
that from her.
Yeah.
So I gotta see what theneighbors are doing.
I gotta see what the people atthe bridge club are doing, and I
live in this world of a gossiploop.
SPEAKER_01 (29:57):
Okay.
SPEAKER_04 (29:57):
When you get older and you decide, you know what, I
I don't really like that crap.
You redefine the belief, andit's clean and clear now that
you don't want that.
SPEAKER_01 (30:08):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (30:09):
But then if you didn't go in and you don't
consciously aware of your habit,and you keep going to the water
hole where all the gossiphappens and not catch yourself
being there, or you keep findingyourself going to the group
who's standing around gossipingat work or whatever, and you
(30:30):
continue the habit, right?
Then and you're not aware of itand you don't catch it and you
don't make yourself startchanging it, then you're still
kind of holding on to thatenergy loop through the habits.
That's why I say beliefs,patterns, and programs, because
the patterns, aka habits have tobe addressed as well.
SPEAKER_01 (30:52):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (30:53):
They you've got to you've got to address the
beliefs, you've got to get thoserewritten, you've got to address
the habits, and then anyprogramming, which is shit
you're reading on TV, the thepeople you're hanging around
with that keep telling you thesame crap, the words you're
telling yourself.
So that's the big one.
(31:14):
That's programming that I talkabout when I say beliefs,
patterns, and programming.
You've got to start changing theprogramming.
Stop telling yourself I'm brokeor I'm I'm old or I'm old or
whatever that nonsense is.
SPEAKER_00 (31:29):
I've heard that one a lot.
I'm not smart.
SPEAKER_04 (31:30):
If you go in and delete the belief, but you're
still doing the habit and you'restill programming yourself with
the words coming out of your owndamn mouth, right?
You might as well just not evenbother.
SPEAKER_00 (31:41):
That's correct.
Yep.
Which is gonna be a step-by-stepprocess I release in my new
book, by the way.
Nice.
The other part of that that Iwant to add to is make the have
make sure everybody understandsthe one thing.
That contrast in your life isvery much normal.
How you perceive that contrastis where you have to look at
(32:04):
your beliefs.
SPEAKER_04 (32:05):
That's right.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (32:07):
Because your perception of your the the
perception of your contrast thatyou that you actually view or
pay attention to is bringing toyour reality because there's
millions of contrast-ual I saidthe word again.
Contrastural situations that popup in your day.
SPEAKER_04 (32:24):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (32:26):
But not everything gets your attention.
SPEAKER_04 (32:28):
That's right.
SPEAKER_00 (32:29):
So when you when it does get your attention, you
have to say, hmm.
Why?
SPEAKER_04 (32:34):
That's right.
SPEAKER_00 (32:36):
And figure out why in that is do I need to look at
what contrast am I trying toexperience here?
SPEAKER_04 (32:43):
Right.
Why what is it showing me?
What is it symbolizing?
What is it mirroring to me?
Why did it grab my attention?
You're exactly right.
SPEAKER_00 (32:51):
And that's what I did when this when I would after
30 minutes sitting there, I waslike, why am I doing this?
It grabbed my attention.
And then so I was like, okay,because there are thousands
times a day I get distracted bysomething.
But it's it's not not always acontrast either.
It's sometimes it's just likeI'm distracted.
And so don't hold yourselfaccountable for having contrast
(33:13):
until you perceive itdifferently.
You don't like that comment?
SPEAKER_04 (33:22):
I so you always hold yourself accountable.
SPEAKER_00 (33:26):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (33:26):
Well don't don't judge yourself wrong or right.
SPEAKER_00 (33:30):
Maybe I used the wrong word there.
SPEAKER_04 (33:31):
And so I think I think we I think it would be
better to clean that up.
So say what you said again.
SPEAKER_00 (33:38):
So don't what I said in exactly the same way.
Okay, so I said don't holdyourself accountable for the
perception of your contrast ofyour experience until you until
you change the perception on it.
SPEAKER_04 (33:49):
And so when you so holding yourself accountable,
you've got to hold yourselfaccountable.
If you don't, then you'llconvince yourself that it's like
like like you don't have to beresponsible.
SPEAKER_00 (34:03):
Well, where I was going with that was is
identifying why.
Then hold yourself accountablefor the why behind it.
Oh, okay, so I get it.
Now I understand why thiscontrast is in my life, why this
distraction is there, so tospeak.
And then then look at theperception and the beliefs
behind it.
Why did I perceive it this way?
(34:24):
And what are my beliefs that arecausing me to perceive this
contrast in this way when it'sjust an experience?
SPEAKER_04 (34:31):
Right.
So I think a better way, andthis is just my opinion, I think
a better way to go about itwould be acknowledge it, which
makes you still stay accountablebecause if if you teach yourself
that you don't always have tohold yourself accountable, you
can get into some mucky water ifyou're not careful.
(34:51):
Oh, mucky water.
You then you've got to discernwhen it's okay to not hold
yourself accountable and whenyou must hold yourself
accountable.
Right.
And if you lose theaccountability, then you give
yourself a place to hidewhenever you are doing things
that are not beneficial for you.
SPEAKER_01 (35:09):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_04 (35:10):
So I I would say you always hold yourself
accountable, but you don'tnecessarily make any reactive or
responsive movements or actionsuntil you evaluate your
perspective of it.
SPEAKER_00 (35:27):
Agreed.
Agreed.
SPEAKER_04 (35:28):
That would be a better plan to me.
SPEAKER_00 (35:30):
Yes, I know I agree.
SPEAKER_04 (35:31):
So if you're experiencing a situation and you
notice that it's uncomfortable,or you're having uh an
experience of contrast that youdon't necessarily prefer, stop
and ask yourself, okay, whatperspective am I looking, what
lens am I looking at thisthrough?
Why is this uncomfortable to me?
SPEAKER_01 (35:52):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (35:53):
That keeps you accountable and it keeps you
aware and it keeps you in thatplace of being able to see it
when it happens, but then it itwill it will stop and provoke
you to ask questions of, okay,wait a minute, why did that make
me feel a certain way?
SPEAKER_01 (36:10):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (36:11):
Why why do I care?
What it it obviously jiggeredsomething around inside of me,
right?
And that's what you look at.
Then you go a little deeper andyou say, okay, well, am I
looking at this with a clearperspective, or is my
perspective skewed a little bit?
SPEAKER_01 (36:31):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (36:32):
And if it's skewed a little bit, is it because you're
pulling from an old file from apast experience that made it
uncomfortable?
SPEAKER_05 (36:41):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (36:41):
Are you still holding on to beliefs that are
maybe entangled with otherthings?
Or is it just a pop quiz thatsays, hey, we just wanted to
test to see if you had gottenrid of or redefined the beliefs.
You're working on your habitsand you're not letting the
(37:02):
programs be uh implanted.
SPEAKER_00 (37:06):
Right.
No, I I am completely on boardwith you.
And there's one thing I think weneed to touch on.
SPEAKER_03 (37:11):
Sure.
SPEAKER_00 (37:12):
Is when that contrast comes into your
reality, most of the time youdon't perceive it or when that
distraction or contrast comesin.
You don't perceive it wrongunless there's an emotion
attached to it.
And that's when your emotionalguidance systems is is your way
to navigate your life thatyou've been given.
SPEAKER_05 (37:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (37:30):
And so if it creates an emotion, like on these some
of these conspiracy theories,I've seen people they'll reply
anger or sadness or whatever.
If it's bringing up an emotion,that's when that's when you need
to stop and say, okay, wait aminute, why am I why is this
making me angry?
This is a video on a phone or avideo on a computer that you
don't even know if it's real ornot.
SPEAKER_04 (37:50):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (37:51):
Why is it making me angry?
Why is it making me sad?
Why is it making me upset?
Because that's what brings itinto your true reality and your
perception of what's going on.
SPEAKER_04 (37:58):
Yeah, because I mean, if it's a topic that, say,
for example, brings you sadness,is it bringing you sadness
because you experienced asimilar situation that did make
you sad?
Um, perhaps because you perceiveuh the situation differently.
(38:21):
Is it something that made youangry?
And anger is a good one.
So if you if it if it triggeredanger in you and you dig around
deep in it, were you in asimilar situation and it
embarrassed you, or it made youfeel like you were treated
unjustly, or something like thatthat would provoke anger, then
(38:46):
you dive in and you deal withthat.
SPEAKER_01 (38:48):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (38:49):
And you figure out what are your beliefs around
just behavior.
SPEAKER_00 (38:54):
You know, for me, they're talking about these
conspiracy theory videos.
For me, the emotion that came upwithin me was mistrust.
SPEAKER_04 (39:01):
Oh, trust is a big one.
SPEAKER_00 (39:03):
And I I was you know, because I don't trust I
learned a long time ago, verylong time ago, you don't trust
everything you see on TV oranything you see on the
internet, or you don't trusteverything you read on the
internet.
And I was trying to build thatup because we're putting stuff
out on the internet, and I wantpeople to be able to trust what
we say.
SPEAKER_01 (39:21):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (39:21):
And so it it created a contrastial moment for me.
I used it again that caused anemotion of mistrust.
Like I don't trust what thesepeople are putting out.
I don't and so how are peoplegonna trust ours?
And so I had to work throughthat belief system.
SPEAKER_04 (39:36):
Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (39:37):
And and I'm not telling you that I'm not telling
anybody out there that thatwe're 100% right about anything.
But what I am telling you is isthere's ways of figuring out
what's right by the processes bywhich we give you.
SPEAKER_04 (39:48):
Right.
And they work for us.
SPEAKER_00 (39:50):
Right.
And they and they do work 100%for us.
SPEAKER_04 (39:52):
You build your own trust.
SPEAKER_00 (39:54):
This thought process turned my life around too.
SPEAKER_04 (39:58):
Testing.
SPEAKER_00 (39:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (40:00):
Does this work for me?
And if it doesn't, file 13 inman.
SPEAKER_00 (40:04):
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (40:04):
But don't uh not try it.
SPEAKER_00 (40:06):
Right, I agree.
And and just know this, I think,is is the last thing I would
touch on with the grinderstoday.
Is that the result that comesout of this stuff once you look
at it, is okay.
Whatever it is that you'reworking on, you know, don't get
mad at yourself for getting madabout it if it pops back up in
your reality.
Um just trust in the process andlook at the belief or the
(40:28):
emotion that causes the beliefor the belief that causes the
emotion behind it.
SPEAKER_04 (40:33):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (40:34):
And it's okay.
It is okay.
You know, we're here for theexperience of life.
We're here to add to thecollective consciousness for in
this in this realm, and then wewe jump back and forth in
dimensions, and you know, weteach each dimension everything
that we bring with us.
And it's okay to have thoseexperiences.
It's okay to have that contrastin your life.
SPEAKER_04 (40:54):
Yeah, because you know, even saying I'm having a
human perspective in it, that'sanother topic that we'll have to
come at.
SPEAKER_00 (41:06):
Yeah, that's a big one.
Exactly.
We we do it our I mean, I I doit all the time.
SPEAKER_04 (41:10):
Yeah, it's it's a it's an excuse because you're
judging some.
Yeah, you're giving yourself anexcuse to have an emotional.
That's the point of this wholegame.
Yep.
And if you're judging yourself,you're making it okay by saying,
Oh, I was being so human in thatmoment.
(41:31):
That really is saying toyourself inside that you're
judging that as right and wrongor not doing it perfectly or
correctly or accurately.
So just be careful with that.
I got asked at it.
SPEAKER_00 (41:43):
I got asked the other day is how how are you and
I so confident in ourspiritualism?
SPEAKER_04 (41:48):
And it's pretty so confident.
SPEAKER_00 (41:49):
Yeah, how are we so confident?
And I I can identify that, and Iwouldn't throw this in because I
know the person that asked melistens.
And it's very simple is when yougo through these processes the
way we teach you guys, then youget this inner confidence inside
of you.
SPEAKER_04 (42:06):
Yeah, you so confidence comes from doing
seeing the results and gettingvalidation for the results.
Yes.
That builds confidence.
SPEAKER_00 (42:16):
Yep, I agree.
SPEAKER_04 (42:18):
And so just like with your intuition, very
similar to like a new job.
When you first go to your newjob, you're not confident and
you're uncertain, and there's anunknown.
But the as each day passes andyou learn more about your job,
and you're able to do thosetasks perfectly and beautifully
and correctly, time and timeagain, to where they're just
(42:41):
natural, you know them like youknow the back of your hand,
you're very confident in yourjob and your ability to do it.
Correct, especially if you'vebeen doing it for years and some
new person comes in, yourconfidence really shines through
because you're like, Yeah, thisis easy.
I I'm fully confident in my job.
SPEAKER_01 (43:02):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (43:02):
Well, our spiritual practice is no different when
when you have to remember, youand I both have been doing this
since we were we ones.
Yes, right.
And uh the more you practice it,the more you're given validation
by your higher self, and you areyou allow those frequencies and
(43:23):
those experiences to come in andyou get validation, the more
confident that you're gonna be,and nobody can shake that from
you.
SPEAKER_01 (43:31):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (43:31):
Because unfortunately, we're a seeing is
believing crowd.
SPEAKER_01 (43:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (43:39):
And so you'll test yourself and you'll you'll go
along your practice, especiallyif you're new, looking for
validation.
And that's when that ball, thatbook, for example, will pop off
the shelf and give you exactlythe script that you needed to
read when you're toggling arounda topic in your head, or that
(44:01):
feather will be on the ground infront of you that represents,
hey, you're on the right path,or uh a hello from your spirit
guides.
Yeah.
Right.
So for me, I use the feather.
Right.
And and whenever one comesacross my path, it's either A
telling me, Yep, you're on theright path, keep going, or it's
a hey, hello, we're still withyou.
SPEAKER_05 (44:22):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (44:23):
That's what I use the feather for.
SPEAKER_05 (44:24):
Great.
SPEAKER_04 (44:25):
And so anytime I am subconsciously questioning any
either one of those two topics,every single time I'll get a
feather.
SPEAKER_00 (44:34):
Yeah.
Yesterday you got one.
SPEAKER_04 (44:35):
I did.
And and so it's just thatrepresents to me.
So that's how we get confidentin anything, not just our
spiritual beliefs, is thatwhenever you practice them
enough and you get enoughvalidation, you begin to believe
that.
SPEAKER_01 (44:51):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_04 (44:52):
All all across the board, not just in certain
topics.
SPEAKER_01 (44:56):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (44:56):
Because there are some topics that we still I I
can only speak for myself.
There are a few topics that I'mstill kind of wobbly in.
Um on an occasion, I still needclarification on, but I am a
pretty big stickler and veryconfident in my abilities to
interact and communicate with myguides and my counsels and my
(45:19):
body.
SPEAKER_00 (45:19):
Right.
No, it's practice.
I agree.
It takes practice andvalidation.
SPEAKER_04 (45:26):
Right.
You find a process that worksfor you, you do your process.
That's another thing that Ithink we do consistently that we
don't let the outside worldinterfere with is our personal
process and our joint process.
SPEAKER_01 (45:40):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (45:40):
You know, like in the mornings we sit and have our
coffee talk as a as a unit, ayou and I, but then like you
were describing earlier, we haveour own individual process.
SPEAKER_00 (45:52):
Yes.
SPEAKER_04 (45:53):
To where we get 30 minutes or an hour alone time to
just work our own individualprocess, and we do that every
single day.
And for me, I've been doing thatevery single day for 40 years.
SPEAKER_00 (46:10):
Mine was on and off for a while.
SPEAKER_04 (46:12):
Yeah, there's there were moments where I strayed
away from it, small snippets,but overall, collectively, I
would say I for a good 40 yearsof that time, I have worked a
process of some sort.
Now it's not the same as it was.
It changes.
SPEAKER_01 (46:32):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (46:33):
And it changes based on where I'm at in my evolution.
Yeah.
As I evolve, we change and ourprocesses change, and that's
okay.
And you gotta allow that tohappen.
SPEAKER_00 (46:47):
Agreed.
So agreed.
Well, I feel complete.
Do you feel complete?
SPEAKER_04 (46:52):
I am always good to go, yo.
SPEAKER_00 (46:54):
Yo, yo, yo, yo.
Hey guys, we appreciate y'alllistening.
Remember, contrast is okay.
SPEAKER_04 (47:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:02):
Having emotions based on the contrast is okay.
And if you think it's adistraction, it probably is.
And you just gotta figure outwhy.
SPEAKER_04 (47:12):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:12):
Hey, y'all, look us up on our website,
www.themercenters.org.
That's t-h e m-e-r-c, c nt-e-r-s.org.
Or you can just Google searchDr.
Jenny Emery and she pops rightup on the first four or five
Google things.
It'd be the easiest way.
The website's on there.
Well, we have the stores up andrunning.
It's the the salty tarot atsalty tarot.myshopify dot com.
SPEAKER_02 (47:37):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (47:37):
And there's a uh link that uh from the website
you can get to it.
And uh watch for our new appthat's gonna be rolling out, the
salty tarot.
SPEAKER_04 (47:46):
Yeah, yeah.
Got the books, uh, the books upon Amazon.
SPEAKER_00 (47:50):
Yeah, your book's back up on Amazon.
We got that fixed.
Uh uh mine will be uploaded thenext day or two completely, and
my new book I'm gonna try tofinish in the next week.
SPEAKER_05 (47:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:59):
Because I've I've got about 11 days left of
writing on it.
So eleven days of thestep-by-step process.
But it's gonna be calledUnlocked.
SPEAKER_03 (48:08):
Unlocked.
SPEAKER_00 (48:10):
How to unlock your true purpose.
Hey guys, don't forget to like,follow, and share.
And hey, you know, share thiswith your friends.
Tell them.
Hey, uh, you know, you mightwant to listen to these this
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SPEAKER_03 (48:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (48:22):
Not saying you'll get any smarter, but you'll at
least have a little fun.
SPEAKER_04 (48:25):
Cool vibes, man.
SPEAKER_00 (48:27):
We appreciate y'all listening, and y'all have an
awesome day.
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Love ya.
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