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What if the only thing jamming your progress is the picture in your head of how it “should” go? We start with upbeat news—merch rolling out and our Salty Tarot app pushing through Apple earlier than planned—then pivot into a candid dive on how expectations quietly restrict flow while intentions open doors you didn’t know were there. From the weight of a word like “stress” to the way a single belief can fatigue your body, we unpack why labels get heavy and how unlearning them sets you free.

You’ll hear the wild story of landing a 45-pound catfish on light gear simply because there was no limiting belief to stop the body from doing what it could do. Then, how outside comments later created cramps during a far easier catch. We connect those dots to everyday life: the Jeep dealer you dread revisiting, the bank you expect to deny you, the “broken picker” in dating that keeps choosing the same pattern. The fix isn’t hustle or hope—it’s a clean intention, a blank slate, and the choice to walk in like you belong.

We draw a clear line between expectations and intentions. An expectation scripts the ending and glues emotion to a single outcome. An intention sets direction, invites the best available path, and lets reality surprise you. That shift changes your frequency, your questions, and the response you get from people and places. We share practical resets—rewriting bad experiences, separating identity from old stories, and stepping into rooms as the person you’re becoming, not the past you’re dragging.

If you’re ready to stop looping the same outcomes and start letting life move, this conversation gives you language, mindset, and examples you can use today. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs a reset, and leave a review to tell us: what expectation are you ready to trade for intention?

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SPEAKER_00 (00:30):
Good morning, everybody.
Welcome back to the spiritualgrind.
Good morning.
There's always that awkwardsilence before she says good
morning.
It's kind of odd.

SPEAKER_02 (00:42):
Sometimes.
I am weird and it's okay.

SPEAKER_00 (00:46):
Yeah.
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (00:48):
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a t-shirt.

SPEAKER_00 (00:51):
I think it is a t-shirt.

SPEAKER_02 (00:53):
Our merch store.

SPEAKER_00 (00:55):
Merch store, yeah.
The salty tarot.
Absolutely.
Or thesalty tarot.myshopify.com.
Or you can go to thesaltytarot.net and click on the
store.
It'll take you right to it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04):
Yeah, yeah.
Getting that inventory built up.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09):
Those clever little t-shirts and puns.
They're going in the store.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13):
And our app is, as we speak, uploading to the app
store.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18):
Yeah, can we get applause?

SPEAKER_00 (01:19):
Yeah, we should get an applause for that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:21):
Applause worthy man.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23):
Yeah, the self determined app will be out soon.

SPEAKER_02 (01:28):
Yeah, we uh started the download to the iOS
platform, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:34):
Yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 (01:34):
Yesterday, and we were 19 hours in counting.

SPEAKER_00 (01:38):
Yeah, and it uh I haven't got any notifications
today, so I don't know where itis.
I haven't got nothing.
But the projected date torelease for the public is the
27th, I believe, is what Keensaid.

SPEAKER_02 (01:49):
Right.
Because you said they have waitso we download it to the iOS
platform.
We get to use it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:56):
The Apple store, not iOS platform.
It's the it's already on the iOSplatform.
I gotcha.
It just has to go from the iOSplatform and AWS to the app
store for approval.

SPEAKER_02 (02:05):
I see.
And then they review it and makesure it meets all the criteria.

SPEAKER_00 (02:10):
It meets all their guidelines.
Yeah.
Privacy, the security, all thatstuff.

SPEAKER_02 (02:15):
But in the meantime, we get a beta version of it to
check for you know different.

SPEAKER_00 (02:21):
And I think we can allow 20 people, I think is what
he said.
10 or 20, I don't remember.
We can give access to like 20people to play with it.

SPEAKER_02 (02:27):
For the beta.

SPEAKER_00 (02:28):
So if you want to be a part of the beta, go to
thesalty tarot.net and subscribebecause I'm gonna use a
randomizer and pick randompeople for that.

SPEAKER_02 (02:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (02:40):
And so if you want to be a part of it, let me know.

SPEAKER_02 (02:43):
For sure.
It's really exciting.
It's such a fun app, too.

SPEAKER_00 (02:47):
It is, yeah.
We got I I wish we'd havevideoed it.
We took it to the bank.

SPEAKER_02 (02:50):
I know.

SPEAKER_00 (02:51):
And uh we had three people that were just laughing
and having a good time with it.
Yeah, it was great.

SPEAKER_02 (02:55):
It was great stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (02:56):
Wish I'd have videoed that.
I could have made put that onInstagram.

SPEAKER_02 (02:58):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (02:59):
Maybe we'll go back there and recreate.

SPEAKER_02 (03:01):
We yeah, we uh I feel like we miss a lot of video
opportunities because we havenot quite acclimated to the
video part of life.

SPEAKER_00 (03:08):
I really wish that we'd have videoed this whole
process.

SPEAKER_02 (03:11):
Yeah.
I agree.

SPEAKER_00 (03:12):
Because it's been I mean, what does that look like?

SPEAKER_02 (03:16):
Do we plant GoPros on our head and just walk around
video all the time or what?

SPEAKER_00 (03:20):
You know, I don't really know.
I don't know either.
You know, uh apparently weweren't supposed to do it or we
would have been urged to do it.
Absolutely, that's exactlycorrect.

SPEAKER_02 (03:28):
But that is where But I am feeling the nudge, the
gentle nudge of um figuring outsome sort of video apparatus.
Yeah, and I don't know, like Isaid, I don't know if that looks
like we have like a video on ourhead and a video on our lapel.
Or maybe I walk around with mymeta sunglasses on all the time.

(03:50):
I wear my sunglasses at night.
Oh my.
So I can, so I can.
What are you trying to say?

(04:11):
Keep my day job.

SPEAKER_00 (04:14):
Wow, that was different.

SPEAKER_02 (04:19):
Anyway, um the back in the day, that was a popular
song.

SPEAKER_00 (04:23):
Oh, I agree.

SPEAKER_02 (04:24):
Back in our time.

SPEAKER_00 (04:26):
Yes, and I remember wearing my sunglasses at night
because of that song.

SPEAKER_02 (04:30):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (04:32):
I do.

SPEAKER_02 (04:33):
We all look like a bunch of idiots wearing our
sunglasses at night with ourjams on.

SPEAKER_00 (04:38):
It just made it worse.
The Top Gun movie made it worsewith Tom Cruise wearing his
aviator glasses all the time.
So everybody started wearingaviator glasses at night.

SPEAKER_02 (04:48):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 (04:48):
And it was it was kind of a weird place.

SPEAKER_02 (04:50):
With our big radios on our shoulders and shit.

SPEAKER_00 (04:53):
And if you all look close to our age, you you
remember these days.

SPEAKER_02 (04:56):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 (04:57):
You know, because we would take our parachute pants
and our aviator glasses and we'dgo out and break dance on the on
the sidewalk with a piece ofcardboard.

SPEAKER_02 (05:04):
I feel like everybody knew how to do the
worm.

SPEAKER_00 (05:06):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (05:07):
And do the the back spin thing, whatever that was
freaking.

SPEAKER_00 (05:11):
There's actually a yearbook picture of me in one of
my yearbooks of me doing theworm in the gym.

SPEAKER_02 (05:15):
And your multicolored parachute pants.

SPEAKER_00 (05:18):
No, it was uh uh wrestler jeans from Walmart.
I didn't have parachute pants.

SPEAKER_02 (05:25):
I did.

SPEAKER_00 (05:25):
I did have parachute pants, but after I bought them
later on in life.

SPEAKER_02 (05:28):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (05:29):
And they were already out of the cool stage
when I bought them.

SPEAKER_02 (05:32):
Uh yeah, yeah.
But and you know what's so funnyis we will talk about some of
those things amongst our uh theyounger individuals that we come
across and they're like, ooh, Idon't even know who that is.
I don't know what those are.
And then you're like, wow.
Yeah.
That's one of those Twizzlermoments where you're like, yeah,

(05:55):
there's some of the things thatI've done.

SPEAKER_00 (05:56):
We've been watching that buzzer channel, and there
was a 14-inch color TV on thatbecause that this on uh sale of
the century show from the andfrom the 80s, and that TV
14-inch color TV was eighthundred dollars.

SPEAKER_02 (06:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (06:14):
Back then, I'm like, holy cow.
Right, you can buy a 60-inchcolor television with 4k HD now
for that.

SPEAKER_02 (06:23):
Right, exactly.
But you know, a lot of and theywere so excited to have won it.

SPEAKER_00 (06:28):
I know, right?

SPEAKER_02 (06:30):
They couldn't wait to pick it.

SPEAKER_00 (06:31):
Yeah, it was pretty nuts.
That was when colored and thatthing was itty bitty.

SPEAKER_02 (06:35):
It was, it was so tiny.

SPEAKER_00 (06:37):
But it is one of these, I guess.
That's how things happen.
You ready for the topic of theday?
I am so we as humans, this iswhere my mind is today, and this
is what energy I'm trying toclear.
We as humans will work through aprocess and we'll allow things
to come into our reality.

(06:58):
And like, for example, we gettold things and we take it as
face value and we believe it.
So this morning I'm askingmyself, why is it we take things
at face value for those peopleand they don't follow through

(07:22):
with it.
And so I I'm looking for, youknow, I guess as humans we have
a tendency to want to blamethings.

SPEAKER_02 (07:29):
So that you can understand it?

SPEAKER_00 (07:32):
Yeah, I think I think more it's a search for why
is it somebody tells yousomething and then they don't
follow through with it.
And so the only thing I come upwith is there's a belief system
in the way that blocks the flow.
And so we as humans, in a humanexperience in this realm, in
this reality, in this dimension,we are creating things in our

(07:53):
reality that blocks the flow ofthings, like we were talking
about flow this morning.
And it it happens a lot.
And the only thing that canfigure out why the flow would
get blocked is if there's abelief in the way.
Like, for example, a belief ofyou're gonna go buy a new car,

(08:13):
and you walk into dealership,dealership, oh yeah, we can work
a deal, you take that for facevalue, and then for some reason
the terms don't meet what youwanted.
You know, it never is exactlywhat you want.
And what causes that block offlow.
And so this morning I was kindof enlightened a little bit

(08:34):
about subconscious beliefs thatwe interject into our reality
and create assumptions of ofexpectations.
We because we so want what we'regoing after when something comes
into our reality that getsblocked.
Why is that?
Because, like, for example, whenwe first got together and we

(08:55):
were at the house and I said,I'm gonna go buy a motorcycle a
day.
And I got up, I walked to the Idrove down to the walk, I sort
of say walk, drove to themotorcycle place, I bought a
motorcycle, drive it back, pickyou up after you get out of the
shower, and we go for a ride.

SPEAKER_02 (09:10):
Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (09:11):
And it was just that easy because I had no beliefs in
my way.
I had nothing in my way.

SPEAKER_03 (09:16):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (09:17):
And then when you do things, like you, you know, when
you don't expect things, whenyou don't have an expectation,
and the example that came intomy mind was the app.
Okay, the expectation for it wasto be in beta by the 31st of
October.

SPEAKER_03 (09:37):
Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (09:38):
Or I say the plan was the plan.
It's not even what anexpectation.
I nowhere in my belief systemdid I expect it to be uploaded
to the Apple store on the 15thof October.

SPEAKER_02 (09:48):
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 (09:49):
And so I had no beliefs in the way because I
didn't know.

SPEAKER_02 (09:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (09:53):
And I didn't know what to expect.
I didn't have a belief behindit.

SPEAKER_03 (09:57):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (09:57):
And so what happens?
Spirit takes over, the energyflows, and it's uploading almost
two weeks early.

SPEAKER_02 (10:03):
That's right.

SPEAKER_00 (10:04):
Um, and so I I equate this to um an analogy one
time that I used, and that istake a one-pound weight and you
hold that weight and name thatweight one of your emotional
stressors.
Say, for example, we'll usestress.

(10:24):
We're gonna name that weightstress and the belief of stress,
stress that stress exists.
And you, if you believe stressexists, then it be can become a
very heavy energy.
Okay.
So you take this weight, and ifyou hold that weight out here on
your arm, just hold it outextended.
You can hold that weight for awhile.

(10:46):
Well you can hold that weightfor a little while, and then the
longer you hold it.

SPEAKER_02 (10:50):
Depends on what you mean by a while.
I could probably only hold itfor a few seconds.

SPEAKER_00 (10:55):
But the analogy of the weight is when you're
holding it, the longer you holdthat weight, the more stressed
your muscles get, the morefatigued your body will get, and
eventually it will lock eitherlock into place and freeze up to
where you can't move it at all,or you'll lose all ability to

(11:16):
even hold it at all.
You'll fatigue yourself to whereyour arm drops, even just a
one-pound weight.

SPEAKER_02 (11:22):
I see.

SPEAKER_00 (11:24):
And so when you name it, because here's the thing, is
the belief behind stress isheavy, first of all, and then
the belief behind holding aweight extended out for a long
period of time.
You've been taught that youcan't do it.
And so it becomes a belief aswell.
And so this morning when I wasin the shower and I was kind of
going through this process ofthinking, you know, I remember I

(11:46):
was 14 years old.
And I was fishing with my dadbelow Uligal Dam in Oklahoma.

SPEAKER_02 (11:53):
I'm sorry?

SPEAKER_00 (11:54):
Oligal.
It's a name of a lake.

SPEAKER_02 (11:57):
Oh, I thought you got choked or something.

SPEAKER_00 (11:59):
Yeah, did it.
We uh we're we're we're going upand down the dam and we're we're
fishing and we're using dollflies, you know, and uh we're on
bobbers and they're floating,throwing it upstream because
they're they've released a lotof water, so it's the river is
running really hard.

SPEAKER_03 (12:14):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (12:15):
And the sand bass were running, so we were fishing
for sand bass.

SPEAKER_03 (12:18):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (12:19):
And I throw my line way up by the dam and it floats
down about halfway, you know,that uh where I was going, and
it just stops.

SPEAKER_02 (12:29):
Oh.

SPEAKER_00 (12:30):
It just stops mid-stream, and I'm like, that's
weird.
Because this water's running.
I mean, it is going fast.

SPEAKER_03 (12:36):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (12:37):
Like they have they have the red cones up for almost
a mile and a half downriverbecause the river is that hard.

SPEAKER_03 (12:42):
I see.

SPEAKER_00 (12:44):
And so I tell them my dad, I'm like, Dad, my stuff
stopped.
And I go to try to pull on it,and it don't move.

SPEAKER_02 (12:51):
You made resistance.

SPEAKER_00 (12:53):
Yeah.
There's and and it doesn't move,it just sits there.
And my dad says to me, the thething that it took me five or
ten minutes to really thinkabout what he said.
He said, Well, maybe you're hungup.
And about five minutes later,I'm like, How the hell can I be
hung up?
It's on a bobber.
It's only 14 inches deep.

(13:13):
And it the the river is so highit's not even close to the
rocks.
Not even close to the bottom.
Okay.
There's nowhere no way for it tobe hung up.
And I tell my dad, I'm like,this ain't hung up.
It's 14 inches deep.
And about that time I'm holdingthis thing, I'm trying to get it
loose.
And he comes over, grabs my rod,starts popping the line, trying
to get it to break loose.

SPEAKER_04 (13:33):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (13:33):
And then all of a sudden it goes and takes off
down into the thing.

unknown (13:39):
Oh.

SPEAKER_00 (13:40):
And so I'm holding this fishing rod.
And nowhere in my belief did itdid I say to myself, I can't
land this fish.

SPEAKER_01 (13:51):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (13:51):
And nor did I say my muscles are gonna get so
fatigued that I can't land thisfish.
My dad started coming over tome, do you want me to take that
pole pole?
Well, it was almost three hourslater.

SPEAKER_02 (14:04):
Three hours later.

SPEAKER_00 (14:05):
I go up the river, down the river, I'm chasing this
fish, and finally, we're about amile from the dam where we
started, you know, and all theeverybody's watching.
There's a bunch of peoplearound, and this this fish
finally circles the surface.
And I'm like, holy cow, thisthing was massive.
I mean, it was five foot long.

(14:28):
And so I go to to uh ask my dad,how are we gonna get this thing
out of the water?
And some guy comes out ofnowhere, jumps in behind this
fish, and scoops it up out ofthe water and throws it up on
bank in this fast moving water.
And then he floats downriverabout another quarter mile
before he hits shore and gets upand comes down there and I

(14:53):
landed a 45-pound flatheadcatfish on a four and a half
foot crappie rig.

SPEAKER_02 (14:59):
I'm sure to somebody out there that means something.
Yeah, it was only a 10-poundtest line.

SPEAKER_00 (15:03):
Yeah, it's big.

SPEAKER_02 (15:04):
That's a big fish.

SPEAKER_00 (15:05):
That's a big fish for that little bitty roll.
For that rope.
Yeah, I had 10-pound tests.
It was on doll flies, and dollflies are little bitty jigs.

SPEAKER_03 (15:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (15:13):
I was I was fishing for sandbass.

SPEAKER_03 (15:15):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (15:15):
Their average rate's about three pounds.

SPEAKER_03 (15:17):
I gotcha.

SPEAKER_00 (15:18):
And here I am hooking a 90% or a 900% bigger
fish on a rig that's only fourand a half, five foot long, and
it's very flimsy.
But here's the catcher is I landthis fish because something
happened.
Some I didn't have somethingblocking my flow telling me I

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couldn't do it.
Or it's not gonna happen.
Ah and so I go to when when weland this fish, I go to put my
fishing pole down.
And literally, my arm is lockedin place.
I can't even extend my arm.
Like it's locked in thatposition where you're fishing
and you got everything allrailed up.

SPEAKER_03 (15:59):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (16:00):
My hand that was using, that was working the reel
was locked into the closedposition.
So I'm like, my arm my right armis locked up against my body,
and I'm like this, and my leftarm is is they're both caught in
this position, and I cannotmove.
Literally.
I'm like, the the muscles havejust cramped and seized into
that spot.

(16:20):
Okay.
But the crazy part about it wasit never hurt.

SPEAKER_02 (16:24):
Oh.

SPEAKER_00 (16:25):
And I landed this fish, and my muscles didn't give
out, the fatigue wasn't there,and I did not block the flow of
that situation because Ibelieved it.
Because I believed or had anexpectation that my muscles were
going to fatigue, or all ofthat.
And so I I went through thisthought process this morning of
all of this, and that storypopped in my head.

SPEAKER_04 (16:47):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (16:47):
And the the biggest part about that story for me was
how do you land?
How do you land that fish?
That's a it's a great way toreally think about life.
How do you land that fish?
Anything in life.
The reality is that you don'treally know if you unless you've
experienced it.
And then a lot of the times, ifyou do know because you've

(17:08):
experienced it, you're gonnahumanly interject into it.
And I myself am very much ahuman go-getter.
I'm a social guy.
I like I have a way I like to dothings, and and and I have to
stop that process because it'sblocking my flow.

SPEAKER_02 (17:27):
Your 1995 wiring is not up to date with your 2025
iOS processing.

SPEAKER_00 (17:36):
I'm guessing somewhere in your in your
article today is 1990.
The second time you brought up1995.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (17:42):
It's popped into my head.
I mean, we're from the era, youknow, 1990s.

SPEAKER_00 (17:48):
Right.
And so this fish story that's inmy head.

SPEAKER_02 (17:51):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (17:52):
It is it brings to the reality of a situation, and
this is where I'm gonna ask youto interject.

SPEAKER_03 (17:57):
Oh God.

SPEAKER_00 (17:59):
Is why and where do we decide that we're smarter
than the people that createdthis planet, this world, this
environment, this and why do weinterhumanly interject?
Why do we block our own flow?
Because you know what happeneduh about two weeks after that

(18:19):
fish?
What?
I caught almost a state recordlargemouth bass.

SPEAKER_02 (18:24):
Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00 (18:26):
Brought him up out, picked him up, and my because it
took me a few minutes offighting this fish, yeah, my
hand cramped and I dropped himback in the water.
Oh after he was weighed.
Oh and so because I created abelief that my muscles were

(18:47):
gonna do that thing, I believedit.
And then what happens after weweigh this fish, we've got him
out of the water, and oh, he wasalmost a state record.
I mean, he was like two ouncesoff.
And I go to take it, I hold himout, take another picture of it,
my arm cramps, and I drop him,and if I created a belief on
something that I did nine ninetimes bigger than that one just

(19:12):
two weeks before that.
Yeah, and so interjection toyou, where I want you to give me
your doctorisms, is when we havea belief like that that is
non-happenstance belief, that wedon't really create or think
about, it just kind of happens.

SPEAKER_02 (19:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (19:30):
How do you stop that?

SPEAKER_02 (19:32):
Well, first is hi welcome Dr.

SPEAKER_00 (19:35):
Jenny to the studio.

SPEAKER_02 (19:38):
Thank you for having me.
Well, this can go in twodifferent directions.
First, what happens is youremember I teach that there's
pain and pleasure.
Okay.

(19:59):
Then there is also this securitymechanism, am I safe, uh, that
goes on and takes place here.

SPEAKER_01 (20:08):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (20:08):
So in the first experience, everything locked
into place, if you will, butthere was no discomfort.
You just didn't know what youdidn't know.
Right.
There wasn't any discomfort,there wasn't anything.
But after the magnitude of whathappened disappeared, and the
excitement and the joy of thatdisappeared, then not being able

(20:34):
to move your arms, even thoughthey were not painful, or your
hands and come out of thatposition created a little bit of
a scary point.

SPEAKER_00 (20:47):
It was actually here's uh I'm gonna stop you
right there a minute because itwasn't scary to me.
I didn't know what to thinkabout.
No.

SPEAKER_02 (20:54):
So never did you say, What if I can't get my
hands to move, or what if Ican't get my arms to move?

SPEAKER_00 (20:58):
No, I was actually laughing about it, actually.
I was it was in because it neverhurt, even when it relaxed and
came back.
I never had pain.

SPEAKER_02 (21:06):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (21:06):
But that I can remember.

SPEAKER_02 (21:08):
I feel certain that if I were to put you under
hypnosis somewhere where youwere not um consciously
acknowledging it, there wasprobably that small snippet of
moment where it was like,especially as a child.

SPEAKER_00 (21:24):
Yeah, I remember my dad saying, I told you that
would do that.

SPEAKER_02 (21:29):
What if I stay like this?
Oh my god, what if this what ifI can't change it?
It could be just a smallmicroscopic snippet.

SPEAKER_00 (21:37):
Maybe I don't and I don't remember that if that
happened.

SPEAKER_02 (21:40):
And because it took you for a brief second, and this
is just a possibility.
It took you for a brief secondinto that place of I didn't know
what I didn't know, and now intoa place of, oh, I did something
that caused my body to dosomething weird and unusual that

(22:02):
was a bit on the weird side, andI wouldn't want to walk around
my entire life with my arms bentin that angle, even if there was
no pain, it created a little bitof uneasiness within you,
probably, and that logged asshaking the ground of safety,

(22:27):
and so inadvertently on asubconscious level, you created
a belief that caused you torelease the other fish before it
got to that point, becausebeliefs can occur on a
subconscious level.

SPEAKER_00 (22:46):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (22:48):
You can create a belief inside you that is
happening without you even beingaware that it's happening, if it
taints the security platformthat you've created feeling
safe, or if it is uh morepainful than pleasurable.

(23:08):
So if it creates a securitythreshold vibration, shakes your
security safety foundation, evenin the slightest little bit,
it'll throw up a red flag.
And if it's painful, which youalready said it wasn't, I'm just
giving the collective things toto recognize versus uh

(23:34):
pleasurable, even if it's not sopainful that it brings you to
your knees, it can in thebackground create an inadvertent
belief in the mechanism ofkeeping you safe and secure
inadvertently.
Okay, and so And it can happenwithout you knowing that it's

(23:57):
happened.
It can be it can happenunconsciously and you don't even
know that it's there.

SPEAKER_00 (24:03):
So what I wanted to bring to the table in this topic
was we are taught a lot ofbeliefs.

SPEAKER_02 (24:10):
Yes, we are.

SPEAKER_00 (24:11):
And most of our beliefs most of our beliefs as
we're growing up are given tous.

SPEAKER_02 (24:15):
A lot of them are, yes, I agree.
But some of them get createdbased on that uh safety security
mechanism and the pain andpleasure mechanism.
We'll create our own at any age.

SPEAKER_00 (24:29):
That's where I'm going with that.
Is I didn't know it was I didn'tknow it hurt until I had all
these people around me saying,Oh, that's gonna be, you know,
it's gonna hurt and whatever.
You know, like I went into myhigh school gym and there was a
big thing in the weight roomthat said, No pain, no gain.
I used to quote a movie quoteall the time to people.

(24:52):
It I believe it was from uhRoadhouse, Patrick Swayze, he
said, pain don't hurt.
I used to quote that all thetime.

SPEAKER_02 (25:01):
Why?

SPEAKER_00 (25:02):
Well, because in reality, are we does pain really
hurt?
Or are we giving a sensation inour body a name and attaching an
emotion to it that creates aresult?
And that's kind of where I wasgoing with this today, isn't it?
And I wanted to take it to aplace of you know, why is a

(25:25):
pencil called the pencil?
Why is why are we taking uhhuman experiences and giving
them labels and attachingemotions to them?
You know, like the word stress,I use that today because the
doctor asked me one time, Well,are you stressed?
I didn't know what stress is.
I don't know what it feels like.
And and I don't want to knowwhat it feels like.

SPEAKER_03 (25:47):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (25:48):
And so do I have what they say is stress?
Like I I we're tell I we ashumans and in our society, we
take things that we're given andwe give them weight.
And we hold on to that weight.

SPEAKER_03 (26:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (26:03):
And when we take that weight and we hold it out
there and we stand it out, youknow, we are taught that your
muscles will fatigue andeventually you'll put that
weight down.
And and what I don't want to getcaught up in, which I'm gonna
change in my life, is I am notgonna take what other people
say.
I'm not gonna take what beliefsare anymore, and I'm gonna

(26:25):
really work on taking those kindof happenstances in my life
away.
Because the reality is, is we'veattached emotions to these to
these things that we're taught.
We've attached a strong beliefand we hang on to those.
And so I'm just gonna let theweight go.

SPEAKER_02 (26:41):
Well, yeah, I mean, that's the premise of what you
and I teach as a whole, is thatweight by weight, if you can let
them go, then reality takes on awhole different meaning,
perspective, experience.

SPEAKER_00 (26:58):
Right.
Like like when we left our joband we have we went on this
journey that we're on now.
That was a big weight for me.
I was hanging on to that weight.
And I I had attached to thatweight fear.
I had attached I had attachedmany things.
And I can go through a wholelist, but there's a whole list

(27:19):
there.
And what I did about, I don'tknow, a month and a half ago, is
I had let that weight go.
And I finally let that weightgo.
And I detached emotions, and Ireally don't care.
And I'm not giving it any weightin my life of worry or, you
know, whatever that is, whateverwe attach to these stupid
things.

(27:40):
Because the reality is, is nomatter what emotion you put with
it, doesn't change it.
It is what it is.
You know, I you hear me say thata lot.
It is what it is.
It's what's the use of thinkingabout it or worrying it?
And so in this whole system thatwe're talking about, you know,
we listen to people, they tellus things, we take it for face
value, we attach an emotion toit if they do it, and we attach

(28:02):
an emotion to it if they don'tdo it.
We we take what what we think issupposed to happen, we attach an
emotion to it if what what itlooks like if it makes us happy,
and we attach an emotion to itif what it looks like if if it
doesn't make us happy.
And what if we remove thoseemotions and let them emotion

(28:22):
just be natural?
Don't attach anything to it andremove the expectations, because
if there is something out thereyou're hanging on to, you will
continuously through hope, whichyou talked about in on your
money blog, you know, that youjust posted yesterday.
Oh no, it's not postedyesterday.

SPEAKER_02 (28:40):
I was having a few glitches.
It'll be posted today.

SPEAKER_00 (28:44):
You know, we we take hope and we turn it into
something that it's not.
Yeah, I mean we we turn all ofthis, we we attach emotions to
it and everything.
And then we we take hope and weput all of our weight in one
basket because we attachemotions to it.
I hope this happens.
Oh my gosh.

(29:04):
I hope this happens or hope thisis gonna be this way.
And when we do that, you'resetting yourself up for failure.
Because whatever you're hopingfor may not supposed to be
happening in the in the wayyou're s that you're trying to
create in your mind.
This is all just a visual worldthat we're living in.
And we take this these uhsituations and we attach human

(29:26):
emotions to them, which we'resupposed to have human
experiences while we're here,but are we attaching them in the
right way?
And so stopping to look at itand not taking other people's
experiences for face value andexperience it yourself before
you attach an emotion to it.
And that's kind of where my mindis today.

(29:48):
I know it's kind of a weird deepsubject, and I'm carrying it
along a long ways here.
But the reality is there's a lotof people that I know that do
this.
I want this to happen.
This way, and if it don't, thisis gonna happen, or this emotion
happens, or they create a fearbehind it.
Oh my god, I can't fly.

(30:10):
I'm gonna die and on the uh if Ifly.
You know, those kind of things.
We attach in motion becausesomewhere somebody has taught
them that flying is f isdangerous, or driving a car down
the road is dangerous, or orgoing out on the limb and
leaving your job is a dangerousthing to do.
And that's where I was when Ireleased the part of all of this

(30:33):
today that I'm releasing, whichI have to rebalance.
It's been kind of a weird littleroll energetic roller coaster
for me because of adisappointment that that I
experienced yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 (30:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (30:44):
And I'm okay with what happened yesterday, and I
don't blame it on anybody else,other than I had put an
expectation and I blocked my ownflow.
And so when people that arelistening out there, you need to
understand that when you createan expectation, you are that's
all human.
Spirit knows what to do.
Your higher self knows what todo, your God knows what to do,

(31:07):
whatever that is, what you need.
And then they're gonna give itto you when you have faith and
don't have hope.
And you don't attach emotions toit.
What I'm saying is stop and lookat it.
Stop and let the flow happen.
Whatever that is.
If I would have held my dad'sexpectation on what was gonna

(31:31):
happen with me fighting thisfish, I would have never landed
that fish because it creates ablock in flow and block in that
energy and a block of theexperience.
And so we as spiritualindividuals, if we realize that
when we do that, you stop yourown flow because you're supposed

(31:55):
to have your experience, not theother person's experience.

SPEAKER_03 (31:59):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (32:00):
You'll see it all the time.
People, you know, if you don'tbelieve me, go sit down in a
coffee shop and tell somebodytell somebody that walks in that
you're gonna start some kind ofstupid business and make
something up.
The every time, the very firstthing that comes out their mouth
is gonna be the negatives.
You know, like the experiencethat we had the other day with
this shark that we met with.

SPEAKER_02 (32:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (32:20):
The very first thing that came out his mouth was
negative to everybody.

SPEAKER_03 (32:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (32:24):
Why?
Because he's trying to sellsomething.
Now, and he you know he maybelieve what he's saying.
I don't know.
Don't really care.
Because his experience is notgonna be mine.

unknown (32:35):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (32:36):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (32:36):
And that's where we have to go with it in life is if
you're having experienceshumanly, they're supposed to be
yours, not somebody else's.

SPEAKER_03 (32:45):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (32:46):
And so we as humans, we attach all this stuff to
these things.
Why?
What does it accomplish?

SPEAKER_02 (32:52):
I don't know, you tell me.

SPEAKER_00 (32:53):
I got on my soapbox this morning there, a little
bit.
And just for those people thatlisten, Dr.
Jenny is not the only one thatstudies this stuff, too.

unknown (33:04):
Just play it.

SPEAKER_02 (33:05):
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (33:05):
That was just playing.
That was a joke.
So the part of it that I reallyam looking forward to teach
everybody is the freedom behindcreating freedom.

SPEAKER_02 (33:17):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (33:18):
What what what's it feel like?
How do you do that?
How do you create that freedom?
How do you stop yourself fromattaching emotions and
expectations to experiences inlife?
This is where Dr.
Ginny steps in again.

SPEAKER_02 (33:30):
Oh no.
This is your journey.
You tell us how did you do it?
How are you doing it?

SPEAKER_00 (33:36):
Well, yeah, I'm not perfect at it by any means.

SPEAKER_02 (33:38):
Oh, I'm not saying you are, but you were you're
personally going through or havegone through situation.
And so what did you do torelease it?

SPEAKER_00 (33:48):
Like back in the day when I when I started my
restaurant company, I had zeroexpectations, and nobody around
me had had experiences that theycould give me their negatives on
because nobody had been downthat road, which was actually a
very much a benefit for me.
And so all I did was kept doingthe next right thing.

unknown (34:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (34:09):
What felt good today.
Right.
What feels good tomorrow.
Not so much that I did I createan emotion and follow that
emotion because that's what wedo as humans.
When we get something in ourmind, we create an emotion based
off the expectations wevisualize in our head of what's
going to happen with thisexperience.
And then we try to follow thehappy journey.

(34:30):
Is that always the right way todo?
No, it's not, because we'reattaching emotions to an
experience that we haven'texperienced.
Now, when we do that, if you'veexperienced it, you can 100%
attach an emotion to it becauseyou've already been through it.
Like if I would have taken mybelief system from, say, my dad.

(34:53):
My dad said, Oh, you're gonna gointo business for yourself.
It's so so such a hard thing.
And I believed that, then mybusiness probably would have
failed because I had a beliefbehind it and I'm attaching an
emotion.
It's gonna make me tired,tired's gonna make me this, and
then you we go through thisthing as humans where we do
that.
Now I would tell everybody tothis day that running a business

(35:19):
and opening your own business isfun.
Because I did have a good timedoing that.
I enjoyed it.
Now, did was there after Istarted listening to other
people and doing other things,there was bumpy roads in it?
Yes.
There was bumpy roads in itbecause I took on other people's
experiences.
And when you can when you canlook at every adventure or

(35:41):
everything in your life thatyou're creating new experiences
in, go into it open-minded andwithout expectation.
Just go do it, you know, likelike we went and scuba dived.
Not once did I ever say, Oh mygod, I could die doing this.

unknown (35:59):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (36:00):
Because nobody around us told us that.

SPEAKER_03 (36:02):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (36:03):
And so, and we were went through this experience
without attaching an emotion toit.

SPEAKER_03 (36:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (36:08):
The more we did of it, the more excited we become
because we were creating our ownexperience and our own emotion
in it.

SPEAKER_03 (36:14):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (36:15):
The scoop instructor was like, Oh my god, I I dive,
you know, I've been diving,well, I don't remember what he
said.
He had 400 dives or something.

SPEAKER_03 (36:21):
Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (36:22):
I don't even remember.
It was like an astronomicalamount of dives that he had been
through.
And he loves every minute of it.
And so it was it was uh we hadwent through this journey not
knowing what to expect.
And we didn't create anexpectation.
What we did create was theopportunity of positivity and

(36:47):
being open-minded.
And so if we can look ateverything in our life, you
know, you're starting a newbusiness, you're starting a new
job, you're day going into a newrelationship, you you can't take
your experiences unless they are100% identical and tag emotions
to them.
You know, you and I had thisconversation the other day.
If you start a new experiencewith another person, you can't

(37:12):
take the experience from theother person and tag it to that
person unless they're identical,unless it's the same person,
because it's a new experience.
And you can't create anexpectation of that person to uh
to act a certain way because youreally have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 (37:26):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (37:26):
And so if you're going to do something like that,
you have to go into it with ablank slate.

SPEAKER_03 (37:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (37:32):
And don't attach emotions to it.
Don't attach expectations to it.
Just go into it with a blankslate.
And that's where I am with myexperiences now, is I'm going
through this process of, youknow what, I enjoyed starting my
own business.
I really did.
There was no there was in thefirst five or six years of it,
there was no part of it that Ididn't like.

(37:55):
Was it a lot of work?
Yeah, but I hadn't labeled thatas work.

SPEAKER_03 (37:59):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (37:59):
You know, just like us and our, you know, we've been
doing a ton of work for thisapp, but we don't have it
labeled in our belief system aswork.
Right.
And so it's fun.
And it's the same thing withevery opportunity.
When something comes in, youknow, like yesterday, our
experience, I had an opportunityfor me to blink that slate.
And I didn't do it.

(38:21):
And that changed the outcome ofthe event.
Because we attach expectation,we attach emotion, and then we
we hinder the journey.
And if we go through our livesdoing that without blinking the
slate out for every experience,you're just gonna bring baggage
along with you.
You know, you've got it, one ofthe cards in the deck you read
yesterday on the way home, whichrang my bell, was uh something

(38:45):
about packing Katie or Kate,whatever, Karen, don't ever pack
or it's actually a t-shirt andit says pack light or don't.

SPEAKER_02 (38:55):
It's not my thanking luggage, it's yours.

SPEAKER_00 (38:58):
Right, or not my baggage, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (38:59):
Not my baggage, it's yours.

SPEAKER_00 (39:01):
And so when you pack heavy and you carry that baggage
along, you're creating theexperience and the uh ripple
effect of every experience thatyou're in.
Because that experience canchange today.
Every time.
If you don't believe me, gobowling.
Go out there, stand in the samespot, throw the ball what you

(39:24):
feel is the exact same way, andsee if it strikes every time.

SPEAKER_03 (39:28):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (39:30):
It will.
It will strike every time if youbelieve it will.

SPEAKER_03 (39:34):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (39:34):
But if you create an expectation of it striking and
an emotion behind it, if itdon't, you've now created a
ripple effect.

SPEAKER_02 (39:42):
So talk deeper about expectation then, um, because I
feel like that's a trip-uppoint.
If how do you have an experienceand know the difference between
having an expectation that boxesthat experience in or having a

(40:04):
goal that actually keeps youdriving forward on what you
expect yourself to accomplishfrom like a goal standpoint?

SPEAKER_00 (40:16):
Okay.
So I'm gonna start off with theanswering that question very
simply.

SPEAKER_03 (40:20):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (40:20):
Every religious doctrine in this world states,
come to me as a child.
And that doesn't mean likeliterally in a child's sense.
That means with a child'smindset.

SPEAKER_02 (40:30):
You mean don't come to you with your hair uncombed
and gum in your hair and you'reblack and beer fitted.

SPEAKER_00 (40:38):
What it means is the curiosity and the energy behind
it.
Okay.
So, like for example, if you godown to a Jeep dealership and
you're gonna go buy a new Jeepand you meet the crappiest
salesperson in the world, don'tgive you the deal you want, and
you buy a Jeep.
And you're not happy with it,you've now created a ripple

(40:58):
effect of energy.

SPEAKER_04 (41:00):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (41:00):
Two years later, you're gonna go down and buy,
you're gonna, you know what?
I'm tired, I'm ready to get me anew Jeep.
Do you go back to that same carlot?

SPEAKER_02 (41:08):
I mean, I probably wouldn't.
I probably wouldn't have boughtthe car in the first place
there.
I probably would have left, butthat's just me.

SPEAKER_00 (41:15):
Well, what I'm telling people is is you should
go back and recreate theexperience.
Because if you tag your previousexperiences and expectations of
this adventure now, based offthat adventure then, you're just
bringing that energy with you.

SPEAKER_02 (41:36):
I see.
So go back to the same place sothat you can actually have a
positive experience that cancelsout the negative experience and
log it in a different way tohelp you not have an expectation
or formulate a belief aroundthat experience.

SPEAKER_00 (41:55):
Correct.

SPEAKER_02 (41:56):
I see.

SPEAKER_00 (41:56):
Um, what I'm saying is, is you can't go into a new
adventure with an expectationbecause of a of somebody else's
uh result of an experience.
Or your own.
Or even your own if it wasnegative.
If it wasn't a positiveexperience, then don't keep it.
Don't hang on to that weight.

SPEAKER_02 (42:13):
I see.

SPEAKER_00 (42:13):
Go into it different.
Go into it with a mindset of Iam gonna make this the best
experience of my life.
And I'm not gonna, I'm not gonnahave an expectation of anything
happening today because when theopportunities come up, and I'm
not saying go out and create theopportunities because that's
human interjection.
I'm saying when theseopportunities in your life and
your adventures in your lifehappen, you have to release the

(42:39):
negatives.
What I mean by that is is stopand say, I am not gonna give the
power to the negative in this.

SPEAKER_02 (42:46):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (42:47):
I'm I'm not gonna go to that Jeep dealership and
experience the same salesman.

SPEAKER_02 (42:52):
I see.

SPEAKER_00 (42:53):
I'm gonna go and have a better experience.

SPEAKER_02 (42:55):
Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 (42:55):
And you set your intentions.
Intentions are way differentthan expectations.

SPEAKER_02 (43:01):
Right.
No, I agree a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_00 (43:03):
And that's where the that gets cloudied, I think.
And so when we're going throughthis life and we go to this Jeep
dealership, before I go, I'mgonna say to myself, I'm gonna
have a heck of a lot betterexperience this time.
This salesman's not gonna do itwhat it what he did last time,
even if it's the same salesman.
Because the reality is, is thatperson's reality's changed too.

SPEAKER_03 (43:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (43:27):
And if you go in there and you go to the and that
salesman approaches you, thatsame one you had a bad
experience with before, and youhang on to the negatives, you
will instantaneously change theenvironment.

SPEAKER_03 (43:38):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (43:38):
You will instantaneously put him right
back.
You have no idea.
He his his whole reality haschanged in the two years.

SPEAKER_03 (43:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (43:46):
He he could have, you know, he could have just
been having a bad day that dayyou met him.

SPEAKER_03 (43:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (43:50):
You don't really know because we carry the ripple
effect with us.

unknown (43:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (43:54):
And when we have when we create the expectations.
So let me let me redefine this.
Let me stop for a minute.
Okay.
The difference betweenintentions and expectations are
very simple.
An expectation has a visualizedresult, it has an emotion
attached to it.
An intention is a visualizedresult that we are open-minded

(44:15):
to.
We allow the flow to happen.
So when you when you set yourheard it here first, ladies and
gentlemen.
When we when we set ourintention and we allow it to
happen as it's supposed to,without expectation or emotion,
you're gonna have the bestresult that you possibly can.

SPEAKER_03 (44:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (44:33):
But when you go into it and you change that intention
by adding emotion to it or avisualized result, you have now
taken your intention, turned itinto an expectation, and
restricted the flow.
Why and how?
Let me explain to you how.
If you go in there with anintention of, I'm gonna have the
best experience ever, I'm gonnalove what happens, and I'm open

(44:56):
to whatever happens, and nowyou've changed it into I'm gonna
go in there and have the bestexperience ever, and I'm gonna
buy this Jeep, but it's probablygonna be more than I expected it
to be.
Now you have now set thatintention into an expectation,
and it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02 (45:10):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (45:11):
You are gonna pay more for that Jeep than you want
to.

SPEAKER_02 (45:14):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (45:15):
Or even on the other side of that, you say to
yourself, I'm gonna meet thesame, I'm gonna go to the same
salesman this time, and I'mgonna change his reality.
I'm gonna change him.
The reality is you can't changehim.
You have now created an emotionand expectation that you're
going to change him.

SPEAKER_03 (45:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (45:32):
And change the result of what happened.
You can't do that either.

SPEAKER_03 (45:36):
Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 (45:37):
You have to allow things to happen and create your
own experience and only put thepositive results in.
Remove the negatives.
Don't believe in the negatives.
And don't carry the negativesalong because you have no idea
the situation.
You know, like the salesmanexample, he could have just
left, his wife could have lefthim.
He could have filed bankruptcy.

(45:57):
You don't have no idea.
Right.
He could have just been having abad day.

SPEAKER_02 (46:00):
Yeah.
He maybe he sharded his pants.

SPEAKER_00 (46:03):
At Taco Bell.

SPEAKER_02 (46:04):
Maybe it was not a trust your fart day.

SPEAKER_00 (46:07):
Yeah, maybe.
Could have been.

SPEAKER_02 (46:09):
But and he was sitting in cold poop.

SPEAKER_00 (46:12):
Holy cow, I have been on my soapbox now for
almost the entire time today.

SPEAKER_02 (46:16):
It's okay.
It happens sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 (46:18):
And so this is where I'm at in my life.
And this is where I got out ofthe shower with, and I was
working on my energy outsidewith you on, is I'm trying to
clear the energy behindexpectations and failure and
negatives.
And so when we when I get upfrom this mic today, I will no
longer attach negative energynegative results or energy or

(46:40):
emotions to any of my journeysgoing forward.

SPEAKER_02 (46:43):
Yeah, I mean, it it's a good place to try and get
to because that's how thatinadvertent entanglement
happens.
Yes.
Um, because you attach aprevious experience and the
emotional content to it and theexpectation to it, and then you
go and do the next experience.

(47:04):
And if there are anysimilarities at all, even if the
whole journey is different, butthere's one similarity, you
automatically throw up a redflag, then you start that
expectation kind of negativetalk.
Well, now you've entangled thatexperience into the previous
one, right?
And it can just keep going onand on and on, and then it can

(47:27):
become an actual uh habit and aproverbial loop, if you will, on
how your reality will expressitself.
Um gosh, this always happens tome.
This always happens this way,and it can happen in all areas
of your life, Pi, or just one,but that's how things

(47:50):
inadvertently get entangledbecause as you're attaching that
and you're not blanking out thepalette, right?
Like you said, which is anabsolute wonderful thing, and
you're going into it with theprevious experience already in
your mind, and you have anexpectation that this one may go

(48:15):
that same way, then youentangled fear.
Yeah, then you don't let itbecome what it naturally wanted
to become and give spirit, God,higher self the platform to be
able to make it something otherthan what you expect it to be.
Right.
You tie them into a box whereand so the rabbit hole concept

(48:41):
is they're gonna create thatreality to where it becomes this
just amazing experience.

SPEAKER_01 (48:48):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (48:49):
But if your frequency is not letting you get
there, you'll you'll notexperience it.
You won't see it, you won't hearit, you won't taste it, you
won't smell it.
Right.
You'll only align with thatexperience that your frequency
is vibing at.
And if you are going into thenew experience with those
previous experience vibrationsbased on the way that you

(49:11):
identified it and defined it,you'll experience more of the
same.

SPEAKER_00 (49:18):
Yeah, I agree.
You know, and like uh when I'veworked with people or I've
talked to people in the past,you know, I used to have this
girl that worked for me.
And she was just she wasbeautiful.
She was a beautiful girl, smart,educated, very intelligent.
But she could not find a guythat matched her for crap.

SPEAKER_03 (49:41):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (49:42):
She would always come to me, she'd be like, Man,
you know, this guy did this,this guy did that.
And she always seemed to findthe same guys that did the same
things.

SPEAKER_02 (49:52):
The douchebags.

SPEAKER_00 (49:54):
The douche, yeah.
I mean, she I told her one day,I'm like, the problem is is your
picker's broke.

SPEAKER_03 (50:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (50:01):
And she was like, What do you mean?
I said, You carry theexpectations along.
You go in there picking theseguys that have the same
qualities, the same things, butyet you don't expect them to act
differently.
You expect them to act the same,but you continue to pick them.

SPEAKER_03 (50:16):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (50:17):
But why?
Why would you bring theexpectation with you?
And it's the same concept thatwe do with every experience in
our own life.

SPEAKER_02 (50:25):
Yeah, the unfortunate thing about the
whole mechanism is that oncethat expectation is formulated
from the experience that it camefrom, originated from, it
happens subconsciously.
And so until you bring it toyour awareness and realize that
you're doing it.
Right.
And then begin to activelychange the habit behind it or

(50:49):
the programming behind it,unfortunately, it will keep
happening behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_00 (50:56):
Because you're carrying it with you.
It's repeating it.

SPEAKER_02 (50:58):
You don't even know that you're doing it most of the
time.
Most people don't even knowthey're doing it.

SPEAKER_00 (51:02):
That's right.
You know, I what I said to her,why don't you go after this kind
of guy?
Oh, because they do thesethings.
And that's worse than what'sgoing on there, first of all.
Second of all, how do you knowthat?
Oh, my friends have told me.
Oh.

SPEAKER_03 (51:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (51:20):
So that's why.

SPEAKER_03 (51:21):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (51:22):
And of course, she later on ended up meeting one of
the guys that I told her thestyle.
I was like, because she shemight end up meeting the vice
president of a banking company.

SPEAKER_03 (51:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (51:31):
And she ended up leaving, you know, working for
me and to work for him.
She told me I seen her like, Idon't know, a year and a half,
two years later at one of theconventions, and because she
went to work for the starteddating the vice president of the
bank that we banked at.

SPEAKER_03 (51:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (51:45):
And uh I seen her at one of the banking events and
she said, you know, I gotta saythis.
I was like, what?
She said, you were right.
I was like, what do you mean?
Well, I'm dating Danny now.
Okay, great.
How's it going?
Oh, it's perfect.
Why is it perfect?
I don't know, it just happened.
Here's your sign.

(52:06):
Because you didn't expect it tohappen any other way, because it
just happened.

SPEAKER_02 (52:10):
All right.

SPEAKER_00 (52:10):
And that's how the life journey is supposed to be.
When we as humans interjectourselves into it with our
previous experiences that on thenegatives only, because that's
where we really screw things up.
We attach the negative emotions,the negative experiences, the
even if it's not even ours,we'll attach them to it.
You know, like how many times,and and I challenge everybody

(52:30):
out there, how many times inyour life have you gone to go
get a loan and you go into thebank expecting to happen what it
to happen what happened before?

SPEAKER_02 (52:40):
To be told no.

SPEAKER_00 (52:41):
To be told no, or have high interest.

SPEAKER_02 (52:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (52:44):
Because you expect it to happen.

SPEAKER_02 (52:45):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (52:46):
And you have now created that realm.

SPEAKER_02 (52:48):
Right.
That you've created thatdimension, that can right, that
continuous loop.
You've got yourself trapped inthis loop, and until you make
yourself aware of it and changehabits and consciously catch
yourself having that thought.

SPEAKER_01 (53:02):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (53:02):
And make yourself stop and recalibrate to a new
thought before you go in there,eliminating expectation and just
being okay with it is what itis, and whichever way this goes,
I will be and am perfectly okay.

SPEAKER_00 (53:20):
Right.
I mean, and I'm gonna givesomebody, I'm gonna give
everybody before we close onemore little example.

SPEAKER_03 (53:26):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (53:26):
When I was 24, 25, me and a friend of mine were
gonna go to the the uh finalsrodeo in Belt, Montana.

SPEAKER_02 (53:36):
Oh.

SPEAKER_00 (53:37):
And we go there.
We didn't have tickets.
We just went.

SPEAKER_02 (53:43):
Why am I not surprised?

SPEAKER_00 (53:45):
We just went because you well, you know, you know my
process.

SPEAKER_02 (53:49):
I do know your process.

SPEAKER_00 (53:50):
I do.
And so we go.

SPEAKER_02 (53:53):
Pack a backpack, whatever you can freaking fit in
there.
It may be backpacked full ofnothing but granola bars and no
clothes, and you wear the sameclothes, or you have room for
one skinny outfit and whatever.

SPEAKER_00 (54:08):
We'll worry about it when we get there.

SPEAKER_02 (54:10):
That's right.

SPEAKER_00 (54:11):
But and he looked like I was, you know, his name
was Chris, and Chris Droggan, ifyou're listening to me, you
you'll remember this story.
We went to the National FinalsRodeo.
It's in Montana at the time, andI think it's moved a million
times since then.
But he said, How are we gonnaget in?
Yeah, it was cold.
And where are we gonna stay?
I'm like, Well, we're gonna taketents.
It's cold.

(54:31):
I don't care.
We had tents, we're gonna throwthem in the back of the truck,
and uh, you're gonna takewhatever money you got, and I'm
gonna take whatever money.
And he's like, How are you gonnaget in?
It's sold out.
And we get there and we set upthe tents and we cook dinner,
and the next day the rodeostarts, and he said, How are you
gonna get in?
I'm like, we're gonna walk inthe back door like we own the
place.

(54:52):
Oh, you're gonna go to jail.
I'm like, No, we're gonna walkin, we're gonna take our bag
with us, we're gonna carry itover our shoulder like we're
bull riders, we're gonna put ourcowboy hat on, and we're gonna
walk right in the back gate likewe belong there.
And he said, You're gonna end upin jail.
Or he said, he said, we're gonnaend up in jail.
I said, I'll tell you what, ifyou have that thought, you stay

(55:13):
back there.

SPEAKER_02 (55:14):
Right, don't even go, stay in your tent.

SPEAKER_00 (55:16):
Right.
And so I walked right in theback door, walked in the back
place, and I get there, and thethe girl at the death, I
literally walked right, but theyopened the gate for me because I
look like a bull rider to them.

SPEAKER_04 (55:27):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (55:28):
And so I walk in the gate, they open the gate, I get
to the corner, the girl hands methe freaking pass that I put
around my neck that I can get infree for the entire time I'm
there.

SPEAKER_02 (55:38):
Uh probably with all access, not even just uh you
could probably go anywhere.

SPEAKER_00 (55:44):
Right.
Because I sent the intention ofhaving fun.

SPEAKER_02 (55:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (55:47):
And if I went to jail, I didn't care.

SPEAKER_02 (55:49):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (55:50):
It wasn't about that.
It was about I was just gonna godo this.

SPEAKER_01 (55:53):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (55:53):
And it's gonna happen, and I'm gonna set my
intentions and I'm gonna allowit to happen.
And I walked right in the backdoor, they gave me the pass, and
I was there for seven days forfree because it was sold out,
you couldn't get in.

SPEAKER_02 (56:05):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (56:06):
And the coolest part about it was is I got to sit in
the bull rider pin.

SPEAKER_02 (56:10):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's why I was saying thataccess probably let you in
places that you wouldn't havenormally got in.

SPEAKER_00 (56:15):
It did.
I even went to the table andthey gave me a number I put on
my back like I was a rider.

unknown (56:19):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 (56:20):
Never once did I get on any bull, and nobody never
once did anybody ask me when doyou ride?

SPEAKER_02 (56:26):
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (56:26):
I just operated through things.
So he Chris, an hour later, andbecause I go back out, I got my
pass, and I meet him in thetruck.

SPEAKER_02 (56:35):
He's like, Oh my fucking God.

SPEAKER_00 (56:38):
Oh my God.
How'd you get that pass?
It was a VIP pass.
And the lady just handed it tome.
I did, she didn't ask my namebecause he was standing at the
corner with the passes that thepeople were letting in the back
gate.

SPEAKER_03 (56:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (56:50):
That was the bull rider's pass.

SPEAKER_03 (56:51):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (56:52):
And so I guess when I just walk in carrying my bag,
I walk back out the gate in thefront, and I go out and I put my
bag back in the truck and I walkback in, and I'm out there
talking to Chris before I walkin.
And I said, Are you gonna do it?
He said, I'm scared.
I'm like, don't do it untilyou've until you can walk in
there like you've owned theplace.

SPEAKER_03 (57:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (57:10):
You gotta have that mentality, you gotta have that
thought.
Carry your bag over yourshoulder like you're a bull
rider and walk right in the backdoor.

SPEAKER_03 (57:15):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (57:16):
And he gets about a hundred steps from the door and
he's and he gets stopped.
And he somehow mustered up and Idistracted the guy because I
came in the back.
I'm like, Chris, come on, man,what are you waiting on?
And uh so he then so they'relike, oh, oh, oh, and they seen
my pass, and they're like, oh,I'm like, bro, what are you
doing?
What are you holding him up for?

(57:37):
And he he got in and he and wehe goes over there, the girl
gives him his pass, and he wasliterally almost in tears
because they were about toescort him off the property.

SPEAKER_02 (57:46):
You were about to jingle him up.

SPEAKER_00 (57:48):
They were.
I'm like, what are y'allblocking him for?
He's with me.
And uh so the crazy part aboutall of it was is is you know,
I'm gonna close it in that isbecause when you can go to it in
that mentality, life in thatmentality of you know what?
This reality is mine to live itand experience it the way I want

(58:08):
to.

SPEAKER_02 (58:08):
That's right.
That's absolutely right.

SPEAKER_00 (58:10):
And then I were I seen Chris, I don't know,
probably three or four monthslater at the Tulsa rodeo.
And he was wearing a VIP pass.
And I said, I said, How'd youget the VIP pass?
And he said, I walked right inthe back door like I owned the
place.
And he did, and and he that'show we got in there.

(58:31):
We never paid for to get into arodeo, a concert, none of that
stuff when we were younger.
We just walked right in the backdoor like we owned it.
And so that's what I'm telling,I challenge everybody out there,
all these listeners today.

SPEAKER_02 (58:43):
Walk in the back door like you own it, walk into
that next reality like you ownit.
Don't carry the ripples alreadywhat you want to be.

SPEAKER_00 (58:54):
That is correct.

SPEAKER_02 (58:55):
That's what living in the moment, that's what we
try to teach is living in themoment of what it is that you
have in your daydreams.
Yeah, what would it be like if Iwere this?
Right.
Live in the moment now as ifyou're already that, right?

(59:15):
Walk in the back door like youare the bull rider, already
embracing that reality, and dowhat that person would do,
living in that reality that youwant.
That's living in the now, doingthe next right step and the next
right step.
And that literally, that realitywill build right underneath your

(59:38):
feet, right before your eyes,one step at a time.

SPEAKER_00 (59:41):
And and I'm gonna add a next step to this real
quick, even though we're goinglong today.
Is when I was released fromjail, when I was released, I
walked out that door like Iowned the place.

SPEAKER_03 (59:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (59:54):
And you should do the same thing on any bad
experience.
You walk out that door and youleave.
The negative behind and don'tlisten to the bull crap like
that uh guard said to me, I'llsee you in six months.
You ain't gonna see me in sixmonths, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:08):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:09):
And I literally I flipped him off.
I was like, you know what, don'tdon't do that.
And I walked out the door and Ileft it and I've never been
back.
And I will never go back becauseI left that ripple effect
behind.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:20):
That's right.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:21):
I am not still to this day, I am not fearful of
anything when that happens.
When any anything to do withthat, I have left those ripples
behind.
And sometimes going into thedoor without the negative is or
walking out the door and leavingthe negative is just as
important as walking in the doorwithout it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:37):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:38):
And because now you're gonna leave behind the
negatives, and eventually whenyou leave behind the negatives
and the emotions and theexpectations, you you don't have
to worry about not carrying themwith you because they're not
there.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:49):
That's right.
And that is a good a a goodending point there because what
I want to remind everybody isyou step into a new reality
millions of times in a day.
Microseconds.
Every second you're in adifferent reality, you're a
different you.
You've learned from the previoussecond.
So step into that place or stepout of that place knowing that

(01:01:14):
you're a new you and there's noneed to carry that baggage with
you.
Right.
That past part is over, it'sdone with.
And so leave it where it is andpick up a new blank slate to
create from.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:31):
Right.
You know, it's right.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:33):
And then walk in the back door like you own the
place.
That's right.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:36):
Walk in like you own the place.
I used to tell everyone myemployees that when you walk in
the front door of my building,you leave everything at the
door.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:47):
And that's what you should do.
Anytime you walk into a newadventure, leave everything at
the door.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:51):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:52):
But anyway, hey, sorry for Bogarton, the whole
podcast thing.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:56):
No, hey.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:57):
It was a pretty deep run for me.
You all don't y'all don't hearme get into these stages very
often.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:04):
I don't, you know, I my work here is done.

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