June 5, 2025 • 50 mins
What if everything you've been taught about abundance is keeping you broke? That's the profound question we tackle in this eye-opening conversation about redefining our relationship with money and abundance.
Most of us have been conditioned to separate "wants" from "needs," reserving the "need" category strictly for bare survival essentials. We work ourselves to exhaustion, often juggling multiple jobs or sacrificing sleep, yet remain stuck in a paycheck-to-paycheck cycle. This isn't accidental—it's the direct result of inherited beliefs about money, worth, and what we deserve.
We share a revolutionary perspective: your higher self would never give you the desire for something unless it served your growth and evolution. That longing for financial freedom, that daydream about the perfect home, that yearning for travel—these aren't random or frivolous wants. They're signposts directing you toward your next evolutionary step.
Through our own experience of manifesting a motorhome purchase exceeding $100,000 with no money down in just three hours, we demonstrate how transforming a "want" into a "need" creates powerful alignment. This wasn't magic—it was the result of reconstructing our belief systems around abundance and worthiness.
For those struggling financially, we offer practical starting points: begin by asking "What would I have to believe to experience life with an extra $50 monthly?" Use visualization tools like writing yourself checks from the universe or test-driving your dream car to bring those experiences closer to your reality. Your subconscious mind and spiritual guidance work in tandem when you clearly define a need, creating momentum toward manifestation.
Ready to break free from scarcity thinking and expand your container of abundance? Listen now and discover how redefining your relationship with wants versus needs could transform your financial reality forever.
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Good morning.
We are back listening to thespiritual grind.
Everybody out there is.
They're driving.
Oh my God, Are you clearingyour throat?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
No, I was grinding.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh, you were grinding .
Is that what that circular handmotion was?
Yeah, so good morning everybody.
Welcome back to the show.
We're glad you're here and weare talking today about a topic
that's kind of in our life rightnow.
And it's about you know.
(01:11):
Okay, let me put a little backstory a little bit kind of.
You know, in the spiritualworld, everybody refers to
abundance as money and what wehave discovered throughout our
research is people labelabundance as money and what they
need to realize is abundancecan be anything.
(01:33):
You have to define it in adifferent way, and we have
talked about abundance before inone of the previous podcasts,
and what you just brought upthis morning was actually in my
meditation in the shower Isuppose is the best way to put
it when I was thinking aboutmoney in, money out.
You know, you say that all thetime at work and thinking about
(01:56):
how, because everybody does this, everybody does that they live,
they have created anenvironment humanly to where you
have just enough money to havea little extra and pay your
bills.
And why?
Why is that?
Because, if you stop back andthink about your historical life
(02:16):
of finance, almost everybodystarted to like my first job was
hauling hay.
You know, my first actual job.
I was making $2.38 an hour andI lived just fine on that.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Wow, isn't that crazy .
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah.
Yeah, because I think my firstjob was $3 something $3.35,
probably Because it wasn't longafter I started my first job.
I was 14 years old.
I was a guy that was powerwashing the lot for Hardee's.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And I made $2 and 38 cents an hour and I worked 16
hours a week.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And and of course, I was still in high school and so
I was living with my parents,but it gave me money and and
then, as I, you know, become anadult.
We always seem to live to ourincome.
You know, as adults in thehuman world, the majority of us
which you know, they say the twopercenters, are those ones like
Elon Musk and all those guys,you know they have billions and
billions of dollars and, exceptfor the other 98%, have a
(03:19):
tendency to really nowadays livealmost paycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And how do we get out of that scenario as humans and
create a world of abundance towhere it don't feel
uncomfortable?
I mean, we work our tail endsoff.
We all work.
You know, the majority ofpeople work 40, 50 hours a week,
sometimes more, and but yetthey still are just happy with
paycheck to paycheck.
Used to be back in the day,like in the fifties.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I mean, I don't know that they're happy with it.
I just think that they don'tknow a better way.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Right.
Well, I would agree with that.
Like back in the fifties it wasa single income house and those
companies all paid pensions.
You know they do.
Nowadays there's paid pensions.
You know they do.
Nowadays there's not pensions,there's 401k.
That's got matching for likethree years.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And you have to build your own wealth?
Yeah, and yet that becomes verydifficult when you're not
living in an abundant place thatallows excess.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, and it can be very challenging when they don't
really teach that they don'tteach it in school.
They don't.
I mean you have to go seek outthe education of how to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And if you don't know anything about it because your
guardian didn't know anythingabout it, right, then you really
have.
You don't know what you don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Right, you know, when we were in high school, they
didn't even talk about credit.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
There was nothing to do with finance, there was
nothing to do with credit, therewas nothing to do with
sustaining a real adult life.
And then they throw you out inthe street and they expect you
to know what to do.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Right yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And how to play the game, and so we adapt and just
do the best we can, and nobodyteaches about the abundant of
finances, the abundance ofemotions, the abundance of life,
the abundance of being a humanand we talked about in one of
our previous podcasts aboutcontainers.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, so I'm going to stop you right there and I'm
going to give a little nugget ofa little morsel, yummy morsel
of thought.
Okay, food for thought.
It's not that you're notabundant, because we all are
abundant.
According to her, it's not thatwe have to learn how to become
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abundant.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It's that we have to become aware of what are we
abundant in.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's right.
That's where exactly we're atAre you abundant in lack?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Are you abundant in the fear of money?
Are you abundant in the statusquo?
What are you abundant in?
And that's the piece to look at.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I agree.
You know that's identifyingyour abundant area and the
container by which it's in iskind of a crucial part of
building abundance in allaspects is understanding that.
First of all, how do you defineabundance?
How do you define abundance andwhat are you expecting
abundance in and what do youhave abundance in?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, and I'll speak to this going back, kind of how
you introed If you don't know,what you don't know and you
don't know how to play, like theinvestment game.
But then on the other side ofthat you're told don't take your
excess money and just sit it inyour account, make it work for
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you.
but you don't know how to dothat, then you're not going to
allow yourself to have excessmoney because you don't know
what to do with it and you don'tknow how to play that game and
it's kind of an underlyingprogram that's taught that
excess is not okay if it's justsitting there not doing anything
(07:14):
.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Agreed, I was actually taught that.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And it is okay.
But that's a belief and youwant to look at that Because it
will create a little bit of awonky money reality.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, and I think part of that is to remove the
human emotions behind it and thefrustration that people get you
know, like, for example, I mean, that's true.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
But, the emotions are not the cause of it.
The emotions are the indicatorof what's going on.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I agree, I totally agree.
But what I'm saying is get to aneutral part of in it, into
where you can actuallyopen-mindedly look at what's
going on.
That is easier for you to saythan it is to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Especially if you're one of those who's in a
situation where I'll take kindof a worst-case scenario You're
a single parent of a couple ofkids, you're working all your
full-time hours and then somejust to make ends meet and
you're barely bringing homeenough money to buy bread,
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peanut butter and water, thenit's hard to remove and you're
listening to this podcast on afriend's device.
It's hard to remove theemotions of that.
You've got to start a little.
You can't start there fromthere.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
No, I totally am with you.
I was just going to get to itand that's one of those easier
said than done.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know, I can hear.
I can hear the chatter of thecollective.
Oh yeah, that's easy for you tosay.
You sit around and talk abouthow you have a motor home and
you've got a.
Jeep and you probably make ashit ton of money and dah, dah,
dah dah.
So that's easier for you to say, sitting there on the
microphone.
But what about me who lives ina one-bedroom shanty and I am
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barely making minimum wage?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
My car is 30 years old.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm working 60 hours a week and exhausted and beat
down, and every extra minutethat I have I'm trying to do the
best I can to raise these twokids by myself.
And you want me to benon-emotional in that?
Well, bleep off, buddy.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
No, I totally agree with you, and you know when we
were raised and how we react tohumans in the world, and how
most humans do this is they havea tendency to create unbalance
and think I work more, I getpaid more.
And that's what I did.
I mean, I worked a ton of hoursevery single week.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, same here.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And I had no balance.
I had no work-life balance.
I mean, I was literallyscheduling my kid stuff around
my work Instead of scheduling mywork around my kid stuff.
I was doing it in the oppositedirection.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, and for me I was actually sabotaging myself
yeah like I would work six daysa week at night, 12 hour shifts
and then some, so that I couldwhat I perceived was hide the
extra hours and the work hoursfrom my kids, so they wouldn't
necessarily think they weremissing me.
(10:24):
Yeah, because then that wouldallow me to come home in the
morning, get them ready forschool, take them to school,
participate in their life, go toyou know, valentine's day party
and uh, then pick them up, goto soccer practice, feed them
supper, get them ready for bedor put to bed.
(10:44):
Then go to soccer practice,feed them supper, get them ready
for bed or put to bed.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Then go to work again and not sleep.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Right, totally agree.
So in that whole day I did notgo to bed, and then I'm going to
go do another night shift, andso I was a self-sabotaging
worker.
Yeah, so that could be what Iwanted, or thought that I needed
to be to my kids.
I sacrificed myself.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
How many times did you sit in the living room floor
and put your hands on your headand say I can't do this anymore
?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I didn't, I didn't have time to let myself go there
.
Yeah, and that's where I'mgoing Instead of sitting in the
living room floor doing that.
If I sat down for a second itwas catching catnaps.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I would literally like I would go to pick them up
from school and if I got thereearly and the bell hadn't rang
and I had 10 minutes, I waskicking the seat back trying to
get a 10 minute nap here there,and I didn't really even have
time to go until the horn honksbehind you because you're in the
pickup line and you haven'tmoved because you're asleep I
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would use a park so they couldtake a nap.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You know, and that's where we get, as humans, we get
hung up in is we're chasing thedollar instead of allowing the
dollar to chase us, and we willsacrifice everything for the
dollar.
And at what point does a humanrace stop and say, you know what
?
I'm not going to fall for thisbait and switch anymore Bait and
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switch Because, like, forexample, you know and here's a
part of this in abundance andmoney that people seem to miss
out on for me and I was justhaving this conversation
yesterday, actually, with myintern and he was saying that
everybody, everybody in college,is telling us to invest in, bit
in, in Bitcoin and incryptocurrency, and that's the
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future of investing.
And yada, yada, yada, he said,but nobody's telling us how to
do it and what it means, whatdrives it, what makes it go up,
and so it's the misunderstanding.
And that's why he asked meabout it, cause he knows I play
around in crypto a little bitand he was like what do you
think of it?
And I'm like I don't even knowwhat really drives it.
I've heard, I know what I'veheard, I know what I've been,
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you know, I've watched videosabout it and people tell me this
and that.
But when you see those actionshappen and it doesn't drive it,
I don't know.
But you know, the those twopercenters gamble on the other
98 percent just trying to followtheir leads.
And that's where we get caughtup in that frustration and that
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and identifying we're trying todo better for ourselves, we're
working more hours, we're tryingto invest, we're trying to do
this and that, whatever that is,and it creates an emotional
frustration and you know we'remaking just enough money to pay
our bills and we don't knowwhere to go and so.
But here's the here's thepositive part behind it is you
have created a container ofabundance that is big enough to
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pay your bills, and so thatmeans you have the creative
powers to create abundance.
But how do you take it to thenext level?
Cue, dr Jenny.
Thank you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, you know what, guys?
Again, it's stopping to look atyour beliefs, your patterns,
your definitions, your programs.
Each one of us goes through ourreality from our perspective,
from our point of view, and theuniverse will put together the
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reality that you're asking for,and it already exists.
It's just becoming aligned withthat through redefining things,
realizing what beliefs you havethat are having you look at
things from a differentperspective, which in turn
causes you to act and react todifferent situations and events,
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on a conscious or even asubconscious level, that create
the reality you have, and thatis in any topic.
But because we're on the moneytopic, you've got to first look
at the whole construct of whatdo I?
believe about that.
What do I believe?
(15:12):
Not what was fed to me by myparents, not what was fed to me
by my grandparents or the personwho raised me and gave me my
foundational belief system, notwhat is being fed to me by the
society or the collective.
What do I want that to looklike?
What do I want to believe in?
(15:34):
Because that is how you createa reality and then perpetuate
that into existence for yourselfas being the actual reality
that you live.
And you know the first step isawareness yeah, really you've
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got to be aware you can't walkthrough life, on any life topic,
being completely oblivious andunconscious to what you're doing
, because then you're just arobot going through the motions
of whatever it is Right, that'sright and living life on kind of
this autopilot.
(16:17):
You got to be able to stop andsay, wait a minute until you're
ready to stop and say all right,dad, government, I'm ready for
this to change and I'm willingto put in the action and the
steps to really do somethingabout it.
And you decide, right then andthere, that you're going to take
your control back from yourbelief systems not back from the
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characters that are playingparts in your play, but take
your power back from your beliefsystems by really
deconstructing them and lookingat them and deciding okay, is
this a belief I want?
Is this a belief I don't want?
Is it something I can utilize,if I restructure it and whatever
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that process looks like, to gothrough those?
And I'm a fond believer oftaking notes and journaling,
especially in your newness ofyou know, if you're new to the
concept, you got to write itdown because you can't remember
everything you want.
You're not practiced enough tobe able to do it on the fly in
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your mind.
Yet I mean, I've been doing itfor 30 years and there's
sometimes there's deep seatedthings that I can't even do
without writing them down.
You know some of the minorthings I can, uh, because for me
, I've gotten to a place that,if it's not very deeply buried,
I can work with it right then,and right then it is dissolved,
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it's recalibrated, it'sredefined, restructured, and
then reality will changeliterally right there.
For me, I'll give you an exampleand this is a rabbit hole
example, but it just happened.
The other day we were headed toDaytona for the weekend.
The navigator actually said westill had like 58 miles and an
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hour and something, and I'm likeyou know what this is
ridiculous.
I do not have to carry around abelief that it takes this long
to get there.
Time and space are a constructthat I create and I'm done with
that.
Like I don't have to livewithin the time space continuum
if I don't want to, I can createa wormhole that gives me from
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point a to point b and I trulyand I truly believe that in
every ounce of my being.
At that very moment and justlike that, it went from 58 miles
left to 28 miles.
It went from an hour andsomething minutes to I don't
know 13 minutes and next thing,I know we're pulling into the
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place and done yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Either that or you took a really good nap while you
were driving.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I don't know if it happened that way for you in
your reality or whatever, butthat's how it went.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I did it was kind of crazy because we were driving
down the road and it said 48, 46minutes, I think, left and then
suddenly it dropped to 22.
Yeah, Something like that.
It was kind of cool.
But here's the thing of thisthat I want to talk about with
abundance is, when you'recreating abundance and you're
trying to create excessabundance, you have to be clear
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on one topic.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I believe that will help you step by step work
through the process, and that isdefining needs and wants
differently.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yes, and it's a big one.
It's a big one because yourhigher self and your, your God,
your spiritual advisor whoeverthat is, does not matter it's
going to provide for you whatyou need.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Always.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Always.
You're always going to havewhat you need, unless you
humanly choose to not accept it.
Now, here's the point to thatis, what is a need?
Because we've always had ourneeds met.
We've worked through life,we've we've had a roof over our
head.
Granted, we may not always getexactly what we expected, and
that is because there is like,for example, you may have a roof
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over your head and you havesomething to eat, you have gas
in your car to get back andforth to work, but your food is
like peanut butter and jellysandwiches and a loaf of bread,
and that's not necessarily whatyou feel like, that you really
want.
And that's because you have notidentified or clarified the
difference between wants andneeds.
And when you can clarify thatwithin your mindset, it makes
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your step by step to creatingexcess abundance even easier.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
And like for me, yeah , whenever you're sitting there
saying I am okay if I could justget my bare essentials met.
Right, that's a belief, right.
And that's exactly what you'regoing to create.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
And here's a very good story, here's a very good
example of that is we identifiedsomething to change our
environment right now and weturned that into a need and, out
of our own beliefs, we wentdown and bought a motor home in
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less than three hours.
Right Because we turned it intoa need Bam Done here, sign these
papers, you're out Right.
And I don't want you all tothink for one minute we have
like an 850 credit score becausethat's not what, that's not at
all what we have.
We, we had the ability becausewe did.
We took this from a want to aneed in our beliefs and it
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became very, very easy.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Actually it became stupid easy.
It was it was quite a beautifulexperience.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Like within four hours we were signing papers.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And like three hours we had a deal done.
Four hours later we weresigning the paper and we came
back and picked it up two dayslater or three days later after
they got it all ready to go.
It was probably the most easyexperience at that level that
I'd ever experienced, and it wasI mean you're talking in excess
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of a $100,000 purchase and wedid it in three hours and that
was with no money down.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
All of our experiences are easy once we get
aligned with them, though.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
We paid no money out of pocket, right and that was
with no money down.
Our experiences are easy oncewe get aligned with them, though
we paid no money out of pocket.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Right, that's crazy.
Think about that, I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's not crazy, it's fun.
I don't have to.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
That's how it works.
That's how it works, wheneveryou do the work to restructure
and commit to wanting things toactually be different.
Lose the fear of the unknown,lose the monkey mind talk of I
don't deserve it, I can't haveit.
You got to go through andrestructure all that nonsense.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I totally agree with you, and I'm going to go away
from the spiritual world for aminute and I'm going to talk
about something that is veryimportant and crucial into
understanding all of this is.
Your subconscious mind createshabits within you and it will.
When you create something froma want to a need, your
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subconscious mind will, withoutyou thinking, humanly, react in
ways to create what you want.
For example, if you have a needthat you need to have $30,000
in your savings account by theend of the year.
If you create that and put itinto a need and make it a high
priority, not only will spirithelp guide you through it, but
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your subconscious mind will too,because your subconscious mind
is going to do what it takes andput you in situations to create
that abundance of what you need.
Now the spiritual part of thatis when you have that need
identified.
Your subconscious mind is goingto help dictate that through
your human experience.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You got quiet on me.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I'm just listening.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
And because your subconscious mind is a creature
of habit and it creates thesebecause it's best way to
describe it is it's lazy.
Once it has something set up,it's going to go to the path of
least resistance and it's goingto continue to repeat that
process subconsciously until youpurposely change it.
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And now the spiritual worldside of that is, you will create
abundance when you can changethat from a want to need, and
then you're going to have yourspiritual backing and your
subconscious mind all working inthe same direction, and that's
where I wanted to go, for just aminute, anyway.
And so how do we create theexcess of the excess, excess?
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How do you say that word Excess, excess, excess.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Excess Meaning an overabundance.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Excess.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Excess.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Access with an.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
A yeah, so you can get into somewhere.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I know what that means I was just playing,
because I said it wrong Excesswith an E Excessive abundance.
Oh, I thought so it was arhetorical question that you
didn't want to answer.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, I was just playing because I said it wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Oh, I got you.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I didn't need Dr J.
I was trying to make it funnyand nobody laughed.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I am not a doctor of vocabulary or grammar.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So, dr Ginny, how do we Ask my editor, now that we've
changed our wants to our needs,what happens next in this
virtual world?
What do we do now?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Well, you know, I think we have to back up a
minute, because how do youchange it from a want to a need
and, uh, circumvent the monkeymind?
Oh, that's a good one becausemonkey mind will come in if
you're not careful and say, okay, what do you need thirty
thousand dollars for?
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Why do you need that?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
right, you don't need that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You have food to eat, you breathe.
You've got a job that pays yourbills.
You don't need that.
You have food to eat, youbreathe.
You've got a job that pays yourbills.
You don't really need to takethat vacation.
That doesn't save your life, itdoesn't help you to.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
That's not a life-saving thing.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
That's the first thing that has to happen is we
have to come away from thedefinition of need being that
which sustains our physical life.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Greed.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Because that's what jams people up.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And then they bring in the scientific backing to the
monkey mind of okay, Iliterally could survive on a
peanut butter sandwich, half asandwich once a day, and so that
means I need a loaf of breadand a thing of peanut butter for
the week.
Don't forget the milk.
I could drink water.
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I don't need to even spend themoney on milk.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
No, I gotta have milk .
I have to have milk.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I'm just saying it all depends on what you're
defining as need, and most of us, our definition stems from the
caveman mentality of how theylived.
What is the need?
To sustain life?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And we've been taught even in the medical world.
In the medical books we gettaught that the physical body
will shut down the lessimportant parts of the body and
give all the nutrients, all theblood and everything to the
organs that are life-sustainingRight, yep or flight situation
(27:49):
or a very ill situation.
The medical books teach us thatall the nutrients and the
oxygen and all that will beshunted to the things like the
brain, the heart, the majororgans.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Things that keep you alive Not necessarily the
fingers and the toes.
And all that because,technically speaking, you can
live life as a Bob yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
And not need.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
A need not necessarily have Bad joke.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I'm mad.
Oh, that's even worse.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Okay, you can live life technically without your
arms and legs.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
And so if you have a structure that's formatted
around that deep underlyingbelief of what is a need, it's
things that are life-savingcomponents, then you're going to
live a very Mundane.
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Minuscule.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Minuscule.
Yeah, components.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Then you're going to live a very mundane minuscule
life, and you're not going toallow yourself to put other
things in the need columnbecause they're too extravagant,
and so you've got to redefinethat.
You have to stop and redefinewhat need is.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Because if having that $30,000 in the bank allows
you to, for example, experiencemore of what your joy and
excitement is, which puts you inalignment with that vibrational
frequency which is, in fact,your natural state of being,
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then that's a need.
Yeah, I agree, because thatbrings about mental, energetic,
physical, overall unity andwell-being Right.
And so you've got to stop and Ithink, really look at what your
definition is on need and want,is it?
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archaic.
Does it stem back from cavemanmentality?
Because I'm telling you now ifyou have a definition in place
on the need?
And it came from your parentsand they got theirs from their
grandparents.
Listen, these grandparentslived through the depression.
They know the minimal that ittakes to sustain life.
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They could make a dime lastthem an entire month and live
off of that doughy thing thatwas made out of bread and water.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yep, yep, that had no flavor.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
They became accustomed to that and had water
to drink, sometimes nothing todrink if the water was
contaminated or they would boilit Like they know that.
And so if you're working on adefinition that they gave you,
you're only going to allow bareessentials yeah, into your
(30:54):
reality.
Perfect.
So you've got to start thereyou are totally right.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Like I, had the same kind of belief that popped up
because growing up there was onethanksgiving that my family, we
were very poor and broke at thetime and our, our Thanksgiving
dinner was literally, literally.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
What was that high pitch?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Well, I don't know what that was, I guess, but our
Thanksgiving dinner wasliterally peanut butter and
jelly sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
And my mother preached to me about that that
it was hey, at least we had that.
Preach to me about that that itwas hey, at least we had that.
And as I grew up, I my mom itwas a family tradition that
every thanksgiving we had apeanut butter and jelly sandwich
after that fuck that and and um.
(31:43):
And then, as I became an adult,I thought to myself why would I
worship that?
yeah, no I'm not thankful thatonly only thing I had was a
peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
I'm not thankful for that.
As a matter of fact, it'spretty embarrassing, and so I
went through.
I have been through the rest ofmy life trying to figure out
(32:06):
how to build excess abundance.
I have been very successful outof the times and I've sucked at
it at others.
I have been very successful outof the times and I've sucked at
it at others, and but the themain part of that is
understanding that these beliefsthat we carry on identifying
the difference between wants andneeds, will change your, your,
your complete perception of yourreality right now.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Of course yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And when you like to use a $30,000 example again,
when you make it $30,000 in yoursavings account by this date as
somewhere that you have to bebecause that's the only way you
can feel comfortable in life, itwill become a need and you will
create that abundance.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You will create it and that's how you do it is you
change your wants?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
and your needs and you create a new standard.
Yeah, a new set point.
A new set point zero balance,you know, a bigger, a bigger
container yeah, I totally agree,and as you, because you've done
it your whole life.
If you stop and think everybodydoes it, they'll start with a
little high school job and youknow, they go through college
and all that stuff and they're,they're, they're raising the bar
constantly, yeah, and they justdon't realize that when they
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get to that point, to where theycan't seem to create more, they
don't know how to go from there.
And that's because their needsare met and they're okay with
their wants not being met rightand when you can clarify that in
your own reality and change thewants and the needs.
You know.
Try it with little things atfirst.
(33:37):
If you need to, you know, tryit with.
I want $2,000 in my savingsaccount by the end of the year
and see the process, feel theprocess, because when you create
a new belief and then attach anemotion to it, that becomes
locked into reality for you.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, and I think the PhD place on this school of
thought, when you get to a placewhere there is no difference
between want and need, yeah,yeah, I want it, just because I
want the experience of having it.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And it's okay for me to have it.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And I deserve it and I'm worthy of it and I can have
what I want.
When you get to that place ofallowing yourself to have it
just because you want to havethe experience of it.
You want to experience thecontrast.
And remember contrast is notalways negative, the good
contrast and the bad contrast.
(34:30):
Contrast is just seeing thedifferent sides of something.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
And so when you can get to a place where want and
need really are not anydifferent than each other and
you allow yourself to have thethings that you want, just
because you want to have theexperience of having them, just
because you want to have theexperience of having them, so
that you can decide from therewhere you go with having this
(34:57):
thing, I experienced that I likethis part of it, but I don't
necessarily like this part of it.
So let me go to the drawingboard, create a reality where
I've got this part of it, butI'm going to change this part,
part of it.
But I'm going to change thispart when you get to a place
where I am going to line up withthe reality of having it,
(35:18):
simply because I want toexperience what it's like to
have it for my own growth andevolution, not because I need it
to pay a bill or because I needit to have happiness, or I need
it for a good vacation or sothat my kids can have something.
Just simply because you want itand you're allowing yourself to
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have it for the experience thatallows growth and evolution.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Agreed.
That's the ultimate place to getto and and here for some of you
out there that maybe strugglewith understanding this, you
know we have I'm I'm a salesman,I'm in sales and I deal with
seniors all the time that aretrying to hold everything they
have saved, all their abundance,to pass on to their kids and to
(36:10):
where they'll actually hindertheir own life.
And my explanation for that iswhen is to get them to
understand that what they wantis truly what they need, and and
transferring, transferring thatthought process for them within
(36:33):
the realm of their ownabundance is what I do every day
.
That just came to me a minuteago.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, and the rabbit hole concept of that is, if you
didn't need it, you would neverbe given the thought or the
desire to want it.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Okay, I'm following you be given the thought or the
desire to want it.
Okay, I agree, I'm followingyou.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Your higher self guides you through your path
always.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And if you're given the desire or the passion or the
thought of hmm, I want that,then it's because you need it it
, yeah, because it is going tohelp you grow and evolve.
Yes, it's either giving you theopportunity to experience
something, so that a belief cancome up and you can look at it,
dissolve it, or it's giving youthe opportunity to experience it
, to discern for yourselfwhether you'd like it and you
(37:33):
want more of it, or you don'tnecessarily care for it and you
want less of it.
So, getting to a place whereyou understand that your desire
for wanting something is part ofthe bigger component of the
whole mechanism Right, it's adriving force.
If you weren't supposed to haveit and you weren't supposed to
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experience it, then higher selfwould never give you the desire
to want it Right.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
You know I watch the YouTube, so therefore, it must
be a need.
Correct.
You know, I watched a YouTubevideo this morning a short of
Danica Patrick being she's thatfemale race car driver.
Yeah, a YouTube video thismorning, a short of Danica
Patrick being she's that femalerace car driver of her being
interviewed, and the topic ofthis was that she had just
bought a Lamborghini.
And he asked her why did youbuy the Lamborghini?
And she said I'd always wantedone all my life and I worked
(38:26):
hard to get it and it was adriving force behind me becoming
who I am.
Because I wanted a Lamborghiniand she wouldn't buy one.
And 12 days later she traded itin.
She got rid of it and he saidwhy?
He asked her well, you workedall your life to have that.
And she said I realized that'snot really what I wanted,
(38:46):
because you know what?
It didn't have a cup holder.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
And it can be literally that simple.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
But a lot of people will look at that situation and
say, well, what's the point?
How wasteful.
Why would you do that?
Why would you buy a car, keepit for 12 days and then return
it?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Right, get rid of it.
Well, and here's what she said.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Because we also have an entangled premise that when
we buy something, we have toattach to it and keep it forever
.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Keep that 30-year note house until you pay it off,
because that's a definition ofsuccess.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Keep that car forever and pay it off so you don't
have debt.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I remember the 8 is Enough show, when they finally
got their deed to their house.
It paid off and there was a bigfamily celebration and then
they turned around and had totake a loan out against it.
That show popped in my head.
But anyway, danica, in thisinterview, when the guy said,
well, you worked all your lifefor that Lamborghini and she
(39:48):
said, yeah, I realized it really, really wasn't what I wanted,
right.
And she said, all my life Ineeded one.
That was my driving force.
I needed to have that.
Then, when I got it, I was okaywith you.
Know what I got?
It it's done.
And now I want Right.
And she went and bought that.
Right and and she and he said,wow, it must be nice to have
(40:09):
that kind of money.
And he said, well, theLamborghini is what made me have
that kind of money, and socause I turned my Lamborghini
into that's something I need inmy life.
So this was on the short.
This morning it was a littlethree minutes short, and that
does you know.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
It drives home what I just said Getting to a place
where want and need don't holdtwo separate spaces Right, yep,
Yep.
Understanding that the way themechanism works is, you would
not be given the desire to wantsomething unless it was needed
to help you experience andevolve.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yes, totally with you on the same page.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
That's how that mechanism actually works.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
That's how you build excessive abundance Right.
You have to be able to, in yourown mind, fathom the place
where you take your wants andyou turn them into needs, and
that becomes the driving forcebehind your excessive abundance.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, until you can get to a place where the want is
okay.
Yes, is okay as a child, andcoming up just because you want
it doesn't mean you need it.
How many times did you?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
hear that yeah right.
I remember so many times.
That many times did you hearthat yeah right.
I remember so many times that Iheard that in my life yeah,
exactly, but I want it.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Well, just because you want it doesn't mean that
you need it, and so I can'tafford it, right?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
now.
My dad used to say put yourwants in one hand and shit in
the other one.
See what one fills up first.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Actually that's yes, 100%, or spitting the other.
You know, my grandma would tryto clean it up, but yeah, I
can't tell you how many times Iwas told that as well, and so we
were taught to segregate thosetwo things out.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Everybody's taught that A need is defined as what
do I need to sustain my liv?
Speaker 2 (41:57):
an experiential life.
You need any want that comesacross because it serves a
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purpose just like in the exampleyou gave.
That want is your higher selfknows what will get you from
point A to point B, and ifyou're supposed to go down this
path, then higher self is goingto give you this unwavering
desire to want something to getyou to be driven in that
(43:00):
direction, whatever that is, andit's perfectly okay.
So if you can do that foryourself and put the wants in
the same category of I needeverything I want because it is
in some form or fashion drivingme to the next evolutional point
(43:21):
in my life for growth andexpansion, that's the key place
to get to right, I agree totallywith you.
I like it and so whatever babysteps you have to do to get
there is what you have to put inplace, and so you have to
figure out what that is.
How do I get there?
Baby steps, am I at a placewhere I can take a leap right?
(43:42):
Am I at a place where I gottatake baby steps?
And if you are that singleparent trying to raise two kids
and you barely make enough to dothe bills, you gotta stop and
look at.
Okay, I definitely havedefinitions in place of if I
could just, dear lord, if Icould just meet our needs this
(44:03):
month, then we we'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
And let me feed my kids.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
And the stress will be off of me, and so that's
exactly what you're going to get.
Yep, then you get a day'smoment to breathe, and then the
first comes and you're sittingdown and you're saying the same
prayer Please let me get throughthis month in the same form or
fashion.
And next thing you know, that'sjust what life becomes.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
It becomes a habit.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
And you're not necessarily growing or evolving,
you're just existing.
And that is not a comfortableplace.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
It's okay to just exist.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
So stop, and ask yourself these questions what
would I have to believe to betrue in order to experience life
like this?
And fill in the blank, and itcould be something small enough
like what would I have tobelieve to be true to experience
(44:58):
life where I have an extra $500a month Start small.
$200 a month Start small $200 amonth, an extra $50 a month so
that I can have these new shoes.
Find your motivating factor andtake baby steps.
If you're not in a place whereyou can make that big jump just
(45:20):
play with it a little bit andask those questions and then
wait for the answers.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
What's it going to hurt?
Try it.
Right Play with it it's notright, it's not gonna hurt
anything I bet it'll change yourlife yeah, whatever you've got
to do to play the game yeah,because we're here for
experiences and that's just thetruth of it, and those
experiences need abundance, theyneed finances, those even silly
.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
The more fun and the more silly you make it.
That is a frequency that islight-hearted even if you have
to go literally buy monopolymoney and pretend like you pay
yourself money with the pinkmoney preferably.
It's the best color and then yougo and you have a catalog where
(46:06):
you go through and you spendyour monopoly money, open the
catalog and money is no objectnow because you have this
monopoly money, shit, tons of it, and in your mind's eye you
pick that thing on that page,you put the money in that page
and you've bought it virtuallyyeah and then you daydream about
(46:28):
what it would look like, whatit feels like, what it smells
like to have it on, drive it,whatever.
and if you can actually take itone step further and go put
yourself in that situation likeif it's a car and you've paid
your Monopoly money for it, ormake yourself like on the secret
.
She actually has tools that youcan download and print, and one
(46:53):
of those is a check from theuniverse.
You can make yourself out acheck from the universe.
You take that money and go buythe car in your mind and then go
down and test drive the carwrite the check for over though
or just write a check justbecause, and give it a new
amount go down and actually sitin the car, or even test drive
(47:15):
the car so that you can see whatit feels like to sit in the
energy of it feel the energy.
Put your hands around thesteering wheel to even bring it
more about into your reality.
Anybody can go.
Look at one on the floor.
You don't have to have anycredentials.
You don't have to show yourbank statement or your credit
(47:35):
number to go.
Look at the card.
Touch it, feel it.
Do those things that will bringit more and more into your
reality and make it morevisceral.
If it's actual money that youwant, write yourself a check
from the universe.
Play that game.
Pay yourself with Monopolymoney, whatever you can do to
(47:57):
get yourself closer and closerto experiencing that.
If you can't do a visualizationand you actually have to have
something on hand.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Go to the Halloween store, buy you a package of that
Halloween money.
That's like $100,000 bills andcarry it around in your wallet
like I do.
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
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Speaker 2 (48:22):
you think yeah, you feel complete.
I think so.
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Good morning.
We are back listening to thespiritual grind.
Everybody out there is.
They're driving.
Oh my God, Are you clearingyour throat?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
No, I was grinding.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Oh, you were grinding .
Is that what that circular handmotion was?
Yeah, so good morning everybody.
Welcome back to the show.
We're glad you're here and weare talking today about a topic
that's kind of in our life rightnow.
And it's about you know.
(01:11):
Okay, let me put a little backstory a little bit kind of.
You know, in the spiritualworld, everybody refers to
abundance as money and what wehave discovered throughout our
research is people labelabundance as money and what they
need to realize is abundancecan be anything.
(01:33):
You have to define it in adifferent way, and we have
talked about abundance before inone of the previous podcasts,
and what you just brought upthis morning was actually in my
meditation in the shower Isuppose is the best way to put
it when I was thinking aboutmoney in, money out.
You know, you say that all thetime at work and thinking about
(01:56):
how, because everybody does this, everybody does that they live,
they have created anenvironment humanly to where you
have just enough money to havea little extra and pay your
bills.
And why?
Why is that?
Because, if you stop back andthink about your historical life
(02:16):
of finance, almost everybodystarted to like my first job was
hauling hay.
You know, my first actual job.
I was making $2.38 an hour andI lived just fine on that.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Wow, isn't that crazy .
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah.
Yeah, because I think my firstjob was $3 something $3.35,
probably Because it wasn't longafter I started my first job.
I was 14 years old.
I was a guy that was powerwashing the lot for Hardee's.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
And I made $2 and 38 cents an hour and I worked 16
hours a week.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And and of course, I was still in high school and so
I was living with my parents,but it gave me money and and
then, as I, you know, become anadult.
We always seem to live to ourincome.
You know, as adults in thehuman world, the majority of us
which you know, they say the twopercenters, are those ones like
Elon Musk and all those guys,you know they have billions and
billions of dollars and, exceptfor the other 98%, have a
(03:19):
tendency to really nowadays livealmost paycheck to paycheck.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And how do we get out of that scenario as humans and
create a world of abundance towhere it don't feel
uncomfortable?
I mean, we work our tail endsoff.
We all work.
You know, the majority ofpeople work 40, 50 hours a week,
sometimes more, and but yetthey still are just happy with
paycheck to paycheck.
Used to be back in the day,like in the fifties.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I mean, I don't know that they're happy with it.
I just think that they don'tknow a better way.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Right.
Well, I would agree with that.
Like back in the fifties it wasa single income house and those
companies all paid pensions.
You know they do.
Nowadays there's paid pensions.
You know they do.
Nowadays there's not pensions,there's 401k.
That's got matching for likethree years.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And you have to build your own wealth?
Yeah, and yet that becomes verydifficult when you're not
living in an abundant place thatallows excess.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, and it can be very challenging when they don't
really teach that they don'tteach it in school.
They don't.
I mean you have to go seek outthe education of how to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
And if you don't know anything about it because your
guardian didn't know anythingabout it, right, then you really
have.
You don't know what you don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Right, you know, when we were in high school, they
didn't even talk about credit.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
There was nothing to do with finance, there was
nothing to do with credit, therewas nothing to do with
sustaining a real adult life.
And then they throw you out inthe street and they expect you
to know what to do.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Right yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And how to play the game, and so we adapt and just
do the best we can, and nobodyteaches about the abundant of
finances, the abundance ofemotions, the abundance of life,
the abundance of being a humanand we talked about in one of
our previous podcasts aboutcontainers.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, so I'm going to stop you right there and I'm
going to give a little nugget ofa little morsel, yummy morsel
of thought.
Okay, food for thought.
It's not that you're notabundant, because we all are
abundant.
According to her, it's not thatwe have to learn how to become
(05:43):
abundant.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
It's that we have to become aware of what are we
abundant in.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's right.
That's where exactly we're atAre you abundant in lack?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Are you abundant in the fear of money?
Are you abundant in the statusquo?
What are you abundant in?
And that's the piece to look at.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I agree.
You know that's identifyingyour abundant area and the
container by which it's in iskind of a crucial part of
building abundance in allaspects is understanding that.
First of all, how do you defineabundance?
How do you define abundance andwhat are you expecting
abundance in and what do youhave abundance in?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, and I'll speak to this going back, kind of how
you introed If you don't know,what you don't know and you
don't know how to play, like theinvestment game.
But then on the other side ofthat you're told don't take your
excess money and just sit it inyour account, make it work for
(06:54):
you.
but you don't know how to dothat, then you're not going to
allow yourself to have excessmoney because you don't know
what to do with it and you don'tknow how to play that game and
it's kind of an underlyingprogram that's taught that
excess is not okay if it's justsitting there not doing anything
(07:14):
.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Agreed, I was actually taught that.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And it is okay.
But that's a belief and youwant to look at that Because it
will create a little bit of awonky money reality.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, and I think part of that is to remove the
human emotions behind it and thefrustration that people get you
know, like, for example, I mean, that's true.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
But, the emotions are not the cause of it.
The emotions are the indicatorof what's going on.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I agree, I totally agree.
But what I'm saying is get to aneutral part of in it, into
where you can actuallyopen-mindedly look at what's
going on.
That is easier for you to saythan it is to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Especially if you're one of those who's in a
situation where I'll take kindof a worst-case scenario You're
a single parent of a couple ofkids, you're working all your
full-time hours and then somejust to make ends meet and
you're barely bringing homeenough money to buy bread,
(08:19):
peanut butter and water, thenit's hard to remove and you're
listening to this podcast on afriend's device.
It's hard to remove theemotions of that.
You've got to start a little.
You can't start there fromthere.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
No, I totally am with you.
I was just going to get to itand that's one of those easier
said than done.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know, I can hear.
I can hear the chatter of thecollective.
Oh yeah, that's easy for you tosay.
You sit around and talk abouthow you have a motor home and
you've got a.
Jeep and you probably make ashit ton of money and dah, dah,
dah dah.
So that's easier for you to say, sitting there on the
microphone.
But what about me who lives ina one-bedroom shanty and I am
(09:09):
barely making minimum wage?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
My car is 30 years old.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I'm working 60 hours a week and exhausted and beat
down, and every extra minutethat I have I'm trying to do the
best I can to raise these twokids by myself.
And you want me to benon-emotional in that?
Well, bleep off, buddy.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
No, I totally agree with you, and you know when we
were raised and how we react tohumans in the world, and how
most humans do this is they havea tendency to create unbalance
and think I work more, I getpaid more.
And that's what I did.
I mean, I worked a ton of hoursevery single week.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, same here.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And I had no balance.
I had no work-life balance.
I mean, I was literallyscheduling my kid stuff around
my work Instead of scheduling mywork around my kid stuff.
I was doing it in the oppositedirection.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, and for me I was actually sabotaging myself
yeah like I would work six daysa week at night, 12 hour shifts
and then some, so that I couldwhat I perceived was hide the
extra hours and the work hoursfrom my kids, so they wouldn't
necessarily think they weremissing me.
(10:24):
Yeah, because then that wouldallow me to come home in the
morning, get them ready forschool, take them to school,
participate in their life, go toyou know, valentine's day party
and uh, then pick them up, goto soccer practice, feed them
supper, get them ready for bedor put to bed.
(10:44):
Then go to soccer practice,feed them supper, get them ready
for bed or put to bed.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Then go to work again and not sleep.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Right, totally agree.
So in that whole day I did notgo to bed, and then I'm going to
go do another night shift, andso I was a self-sabotaging
worker.
Yeah, so that could be what Iwanted, or thought that I needed
to be to my kids.
I sacrificed myself.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
How many times did you sit in the living room floor
and put your hands on your headand say I can't do this anymore
?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I didn't, I didn't have time to let myself go there
.
Yeah, and that's where I'mgoing Instead of sitting in the
living room floor doing that.
If I sat down for a second itwas catching catnaps.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I would literally like I would go to pick them up
from school and if I got thereearly and the bell hadn't rang
and I had 10 minutes, I waskicking the seat back trying to
get a 10 minute nap here there,and I didn't really even have
time to go until the horn honksbehind you because you're in the
pickup line and you haven'tmoved because you're asleep I
(11:52):
would use a park so they couldtake a nap.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You know, and that's where we get, as humans, we get
hung up in is we're chasing thedollar instead of allowing the
dollar to chase us, and we willsacrifice everything for the
dollar.
And at what point does a humanrace stop and say, you know what
?
I'm not going to fall for thisbait and switch anymore Bait and
(12:15):
switch Because, like, forexample, you know and here's a
part of this in abundance andmoney that people seem to miss
out on for me and I was justhaving this conversation
yesterday, actually, with myintern and he was saying that
everybody, everybody in college,is telling us to invest in, bit
in, in Bitcoin and incryptocurrency, and that's the
(12:38):
future of investing.
And yada, yada, yada, he said,but nobody's telling us how to
do it and what it means, whatdrives it, what makes it go up,
and so it's the misunderstanding.
And that's why he asked meabout it, cause he knows I play
around in crypto a little bitand he was like what do you
think of it?
And I'm like I don't even knowwhat really drives it.
I've heard, I know what I'veheard, I know what I've been,
(13:00):
you know, I've watched videosabout it and people tell me this
and that.
But when you see those actionshappen and it doesn't drive it,
I don't know.
But you know, the those twopercenters gamble on the other
98 percent just trying to followtheir leads.
And that's where we get caughtup in that frustration and that
(13:22):
and identifying we're trying todo better for ourselves, we're
working more hours, we're tryingto invest, we're trying to do
this and that, whatever that is,and it creates an emotional
frustration and you know we'remaking just enough money to pay
our bills and we don't knowwhere to go and so.
But here's the here's thepositive part behind it is you
have created a container ofabundance that is big enough to
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pay your bills, and so thatmeans you have the creative
powers to create abundance.
But how do you take it to thenext level?
Cue, dr Jenny.
Thank you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, you know what, guys?
Again, it's stopping to look atyour beliefs, your patterns,
your definitions, your programs.
Each one of us goes through ourreality from our perspective,
from our point of view, and theuniverse will put together the
(14:27):
reality that you're asking for,and it already exists.
It's just becoming aligned withthat through redefining things,
realizing what beliefs you havethat are having you look at
things from a differentperspective, which in turn
causes you to act and react todifferent situations and events,
(14:52):
on a conscious or even asubconscious level, that create
the reality you have, and thatis in any topic.
But because we're on the moneytopic, you've got to first look
at the whole construct of whatdo I?
believe about that.
What do I believe?
(15:12):
Not what was fed to me by myparents, not what was fed to me
by my grandparents or the personwho raised me and gave me my
foundational belief system, notwhat is being fed to me by the
society or the collective.
What do I want that to looklike?
What do I want to believe in?
(15:34):
Because that is how you createa reality and then perpetuate
that into existence for yourselfas being the actual reality
that you live.
And you know the first step isawareness yeah, really you've
(15:56):
got to be aware you can't walkthrough life, on any life topic,
being completely oblivious andunconscious to what you're doing
, because then you're just arobot going through the motions
of whatever it is Right, that'sright and living life on kind of
this autopilot.
(16:17):
You got to be able to stop andsay, wait a minute until you're
ready to stop and say all right,dad, government, I'm ready for
this to change and I'm willingto put in the action and the
steps to really do somethingabout it.
And you decide, right then andthere, that you're going to take
your control back from yourbelief systems not back from the
(16:43):
characters that are playingparts in your play, but take
your power back from your beliefsystems by really
deconstructing them and lookingat them and deciding okay, is
this a belief I want?
Is this a belief I don't want?
Is it something I can utilize,if I restructure it and whatever
(17:08):
that process looks like, to gothrough those?
And I'm a fond believer oftaking notes and journaling,
especially in your newness ofyou know, if you're new to the
concept, you got to write itdown because you can't remember
everything you want.
You're not practiced enough tobe able to do it on the fly in
(17:29):
your mind.
Yet I mean, I've been doing itfor 30 years and there's
sometimes there's deep seatedthings that I can't even do
without writing them down.
You know some of the minorthings I can, uh, because for me
, I've gotten to a place that,if it's not very deeply buried,
I can work with it right then,and right then it is dissolved,
(17:52):
it's recalibrated, it'sredefined, restructured, and
then reality will changeliterally right there.
For me, I'll give you an exampleand this is a rabbit hole
example, but it just happened.
The other day we were headed toDaytona for the weekend.
The navigator actually said westill had like 58 miles and an
(18:16):
hour and something, and I'm likeyou know what this is
ridiculous.
I do not have to carry around abelief that it takes this long
to get there.
Time and space are a constructthat I create and I'm done with
that.
Like I don't have to livewithin the time space continuum
if I don't want to, I can createa wormhole that gives me from
(18:38):
point a to point b and I trulyand I truly believe that in
every ounce of my being.
At that very moment and justlike that, it went from 58 miles
left to 28 miles.
It went from an hour andsomething minutes to I don't
know 13 minutes and next thing,I know we're pulling into the
(19:05):
place and done yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Either that or you took a really good nap while you
were driving.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I don't know if it happened that way for you in
your reality or whatever, butthat's how it went.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I did it was kind of crazy because we were driving
down the road and it said 48, 46minutes, I think, left and then
suddenly it dropped to 22.
Yeah, Something like that.
It was kind of cool.
But here's the thing of thisthat I want to talk about with
abundance is, when you'recreating abundance and you're
trying to create excessabundance, you have to be clear
(19:36):
on one topic.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I believe that will help you step by step work
through the process, and that isdefining needs and wants
differently.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yes, and it's a big one.
It's a big one because yourhigher self and your, your God,
your spiritual advisor whoeverthat is, does not matter it's
going to provide for you whatyou need.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Always.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Always.
You're always going to havewhat you need, unless you
humanly choose to not accept it.
Now, here's the point to thatis, what is a need?
Because we've always had ourneeds met.
We've worked through life,we've we've had a roof over our
head.
Granted, we may not always getexactly what we expected, and
that is because there is like,for example, you may have a roof
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over your head and you havesomething to eat, you have gas
in your car to get back andforth to work, but your food is
like peanut butter and jellysandwiches and a loaf of bread,
and that's not necessarily whatyou feel like, that you really
want.
And that's because you have notidentified or clarified the
difference between wants andneeds.
And when you can clarify thatwithin your mindset, it makes
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your step by step to creatingexcess abundance even easier.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
And like for me, yeah , whenever you're sitting there
saying I am okay if I could justget my bare essentials met.
Right, that's a belief, right.
And that's exactly what you'regoing to create.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
And here's a very good story, here's a very good
example of that is we identifiedsomething to change our
environment right now and weturned that into a need and, out
of our own beliefs, we wentdown and bought a motor home in
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less than three hours.
Right Because we turned it intoa need Bam Done here, sign these
papers, you're out Right.
And I don't want you all tothink for one minute we have
like an 850 credit score becausethat's not what, that's not at
all what we have.
We, we had the ability becausewe did.
We took this from a want to aneed in our beliefs and it
(21:47):
became very, very easy.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Actually it became stupid easy.
It was it was quite a beautifulexperience.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Like within four hours we were signing papers.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And like three hours we had a deal done.
Four hours later we weresigning the paper and we came
back and picked it up two dayslater or three days later after
they got it all ready to go.
It was probably the most easyexperience at that level that
I'd ever experienced, and it wasI mean you're talking in excess
(22:23):
of a $100,000 purchase and wedid it in three hours and that
was with no money down.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
All of our experiences are easy once we get
aligned with them, though.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
We paid no money out of pocket, right and that was
with no money down.
Our experiences are easy oncewe get aligned with them, though
we paid no money out of pocket.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Right, that's crazy.
Think about that, I don't.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's not crazy, it's fun.
I don't have to.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
That's how it works.
That's how it works, wheneveryou do the work to restructure
and commit to wanting things toactually be different.
Lose the fear of the unknown,lose the monkey mind talk of I
don't deserve it, I can't haveit.
You got to go through andrestructure all that nonsense.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I totally agree with you, and I'm going to go away
from the spiritual world for aminute and I'm going to talk
about something that is veryimportant and crucial into
understanding all of this is.
Your subconscious mind createshabits within you and it will.
When you create something froma want to a need, your
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subconscious mind will, withoutyou thinking, humanly, react in
ways to create what you want.
For example, if you have a needthat you need to have $30,000
in your savings account by theend of the year.
If you create that and put itinto a need and make it a high
priority, not only will spirithelp guide you through it, but
(23:51):
your subconscious mind will too,because your subconscious mind
is going to do what it takes andput you in situations to create
that abundance of what you need.
Now the spiritual part of thatis when you have that need
identified.
Your subconscious mind is goingto help dictate that through
your human experience.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You got quiet on me.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I'm just listening.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
And because your subconscious mind is a creature
of habit and it creates thesebecause it's best way to
describe it is it's lazy.
Once it has something set up,it's going to go to the path of
least resistance and it's goingto continue to repeat that
process subconsciously until youpurposely change it.
(24:35):
And now the spiritual worldside of that is, you will create
abundance when you can changethat from a want to need, and
then you're going to have yourspiritual backing and your
subconscious mind all working inthe same direction, and that's
where I wanted to go, for just aminute, anyway.
And so how do we create theexcess of the excess, excess?
(24:58):
How do you say that word Excess, excess, excess.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Excess Meaning an overabundance.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Excess.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Excess.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Access with an.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
A yeah, so you can get into somewhere.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I know what that means I was just playing,
because I said it wrong Excesswith an E Excessive abundance.
Oh, I thought so it was arhetorical question that you
didn't want to answer.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, I was just playing because I said it wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Oh, I got you.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I didn't need Dr J.
I was trying to make it funnyand nobody laughed.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I am not a doctor of vocabulary or grammar.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
So, dr Ginny, how do we Ask my editor, now that we've
changed our wants to our needs,what happens next in this
virtual world?
What do we do now?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Well, you know, I think we have to back up a
minute, because how do youchange it from a want to a need
and, uh, circumvent the monkeymind?
Oh, that's a good one becausemonkey mind will come in if
you're not careful and say, okay, what do you need thirty
thousand dollars for?
(26:06):
Why do you need that?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
right, you don't need that.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
You have food to eat, you breathe.
You've got a job that pays yourbills.
You don't need that.
You have food to eat, youbreathe.
You've got a job that pays yourbills.
You don't really need to takethat vacation.
That doesn't save your life, itdoesn't help you to.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
That's not a life-saving thing.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
That's the first thing that has to happen is we
have to come away from thedefinition of need being that
which sustains our physical life.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Greed.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Because that's what jams people up.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And then they bring in the scientific backing to the
monkey mind of okay, Iliterally could survive on a
peanut butter sandwich, half asandwich once a day, and so that
means I need a loaf of breadand a thing of peanut butter for
the week.
Don't forget the milk.
I could drink water.
(27:03):
I don't need to even spend themoney on milk.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
No, I gotta have milk .
I have to have milk.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I'm just saying it all depends on what you're
defining as need, and most of us, our definition stems from the
caveman mentality of how theylived.
What is the need?
To sustain life?
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
And we've been taught even in the medical world.
In the medical books we gettaught that the physical body
will shut down the lessimportant parts of the body and
give all the nutrients, all theblood and everything to the
organs that are life-sustainingRight, yep or flight situation
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or a very ill situation.
The medical books teach us thatall the nutrients and the
oxygen and all that will beshunted to the things like the
brain, the heart, the majororgans.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Things that keep you alive Not necessarily the
fingers and the toes.
And all that because,technically speaking, you can
live life as a Bob yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
And not need.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
A need not necessarily have Bad joke.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I'm mad.
Oh, that's even worse.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Okay, you can live life technically without your
arms and legs.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
And so if you have a structure that's formatted
around that deep underlyingbelief of what is a need, it's
things that are life-savingcomponents, then you're going to
live a very Mundane.
(28:51):
Minuscule.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Minuscule.
Yeah, components.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Then you're going to live a very mundane minuscule
life, and you're not going toallow yourself to put other
things in the need columnbecause they're too extravagant,
and so you've got to redefinethat.
You have to stop and redefinewhat need is.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Because if having that $30,000 in the bank allows
you to, for example, experiencemore of what your joy and
excitement is, which puts you inalignment with that vibrational
frequency which is, in fact,your natural state of being,
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then that's a need.
Yeah, I agree, because thatbrings about mental, energetic,
physical, overall unity andwell-being Right.
And so you've got to stop and Ithink, really look at what your
definition is on need and want,is it?
(29:54):
archaic.
Does it stem back from cavemanmentality?
Because I'm telling you now ifyou have a definition in place
on the need?
And it came from your parentsand they got theirs from their
grandparents.
Listen, these grandparentslived through the depression.
They know the minimal that ittakes to sustain life.
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They could make a dime lastthem an entire month and live
off of that doughy thing thatwas made out of bread and water.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yep, yep, that had no flavor.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
They became accustomed to that and had water
to drink, sometimes nothing todrink if the water was
contaminated or they would boilit Like they know that.
And so if you're working on adefinition that they gave you,
you're only going to allow bareessentials yeah, into your
(30:54):
reality.
Perfect.
So you've got to start thereyou are totally right.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Like I, had the same kind of belief that popped up
because growing up there was onethanksgiving that my family, we
were very poor and broke at thetime and our, our Thanksgiving
dinner was literally, literally.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
What was that high pitch?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Well, I don't know what that was, I guess, but our
Thanksgiving dinner wasliterally peanut butter and
jelly sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
And my mother preached to me about that that
it was hey, at least we had that.
Preach to me about that that itwas hey, at least we had that.
And as I grew up, I my mom itwas a family tradition that
every thanksgiving we had apeanut butter and jelly sandwich
after that fuck that and and um.
(31:43):
And then, as I became an adult,I thought to myself why would I
worship that?
yeah, no I'm not thankful thatonly only thing I had was a
peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
I'm not thankful for that.
As a matter of fact, it'spretty embarrassing, and so I
went through.
I have been through the rest ofmy life trying to figure out
(32:06):
how to build excess abundance.
I have been very successful outof the times and I've sucked at
it at others.
I have been very successful outof the times and I've sucked at
it at others, and but the themain part of that is
understanding that these beliefsthat we carry on identifying
the difference between wants andneeds, will change your, your,
your complete perception of yourreality right now.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Of course yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
And when you like to use a $30,000 example again,
when you make it $30,000 in yoursavings account by this date as
somewhere that you have to bebecause that's the only way you
can feel comfortable in life, itwill become a need and you will
create that abundance.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
You will create it and that's how you do it is you
change your wants?
Speaker 1 (32:54):
and your needs and you create a new standard.
Yeah, a new set point.
A new set point zero balance,you know, a bigger, a bigger
container yeah, I totally agree,and as you, because you've done
it your whole life.
If you stop and think everybodydoes it, they'll start with a
little high school job and youknow, they go through college
and all that stuff and they're,they're, they're raising the bar
constantly, yeah, and they justdon't realize that when they
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get to that point, to where theycan't seem to create more, they
don't know how to go from there.
And that's because their needsare met and they're okay with
their wants not being met rightand when you can clarify that in
your own reality and change thewants and the needs.
You know.
Try it with little things atfirst.
(33:37):
If you need to, you know, tryit with.
I want $2,000 in my savingsaccount by the end of the year
and see the process, feel theprocess, because when you create
a new belief and then attach anemotion to it, that becomes
locked into reality for you.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, and I think the PhD place on this school of
thought, when you get to a placewhere there is no difference
between want and need, yeah,yeah, I want it, just because I
want the experience of having it.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And it's okay for me to have it.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And I deserve it and I'm worthy of it and I can have
what I want.
When you get to that place ofallowing yourself to have it
just because you want to havethe experience of it.
You want to experience thecontrast.
And remember contrast is notalways negative, the good
contrast and the bad contrast.
(34:30):
Contrast is just seeing thedifferent sides of something.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
And so when you can get to a place where want and
need really are not anydifferent than each other and
you allow yourself to have thethings that you want, just
because you want to have theexperience of having them, just
because you want to have theexperience of having them, so
that you can decide from therewhere you go with having this
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thing, I experienced that I likethis part of it, but I don't
necessarily like this part of it.
So let me go to the drawingboard, create a reality where
I've got this part of it, butI'm going to change this part,
part of it.
But I'm going to change thispart when you get to a place
where I am going to line up withthe reality of having it,
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simply because I want toexperience what it's like to
have it for my own growth andevolution, not because I need it
to pay a bill or because I needit to have happiness, or I need
it for a good vacation or sothat my kids can have something.
Just simply because you want itand you're allowing yourself to
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have it for the experience thatallows growth and evolution.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Agreed.
That's the ultimate place to getto and and here for some of you
out there that maybe strugglewith understanding this, you
know we have I'm I'm a salesman,I'm in sales and I deal with
seniors all the time that aretrying to hold everything they
have saved, all their abundance,to pass on to their kids and to
(36:10):
where they'll actually hindertheir own life.
And my explanation for that iswhen is to get them to
understand that what they wantis truly what they need, and and
transferring, transferring thatthought process for them within
(36:33):
the realm of their ownabundance is what I do every day
.
That just came to me a minuteago.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, and the rabbit hole concept of that is, if you
didn't need it, you would neverbe given the thought or the
desire to want it.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Okay, I'm following you be given the thought or the
desire to want it.
Okay, I agree, I'm followingyou.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Your higher self guides you through your path
always.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
And if you're given the desire or the passion or the
thought of hmm, I want that,then it's because you need it it
, yeah, because it is going tohelp you grow and evolve.
Yes, it's either giving you theopportunity to experience
something, so that a belief cancome up and you can look at it,
dissolve it, or it's giving youthe opportunity to experience it
, to discern for yourselfwhether you'd like it and you
(37:33):
want more of it, or you don'tnecessarily care for it and you
want less of it.
So, getting to a place whereyou understand that your desire
for wanting something is part ofthe bigger component of the
whole mechanism Right, it's adriving force.
If you weren't supposed to haveit and you weren't supposed to
(37:56):
experience it, then higher selfwould never give you the desire
to want it Right.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
You know I watch the YouTube, so therefore, it must
be a need.
Correct.
You know, I watched a YouTubevideo this morning a short of
Danica Patrick being she's thatfemale race car driver.
Yeah, a YouTube video thismorning, a short of Danica
Patrick being she's that femalerace car driver of her being
interviewed, and the topic ofthis was that she had just
bought a Lamborghini.
And he asked her why did youbuy the Lamborghini?
And she said I'd always wantedone all my life and I worked
(38:26):
hard to get it and it was adriving force behind me becoming
who I am.
Because I wanted a Lamborghiniand she wouldn't buy one.
And 12 days later she traded itin.
She got rid of it and he saidwhy?
He asked her well, you workedall your life to have that.
And she said I realized that'snot really what I wanted,
(38:46):
because you know what?
It didn't have a cup holder.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
And it can be literally that simple.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
But a lot of people will look at that situation and
say, well, what's the point?
How wasteful.
Why would you do that?
Why would you buy a car, keepit for 12 days and then return
it?
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Right, get rid of it.
Well, and here's what she said.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Because we also have an entangled premise that when
we buy something, we have toattach to it and keep it forever
.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Keep that 30-year note house until you pay it off,
because that's a definition ofsuccess.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Keep that car forever and pay it off so you don't
have debt.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I remember the 8 is Enough show, when they finally
got their deed to their house.
It paid off and there was a bigfamily celebration and then
they turned around and had totake a loan out against it.
That show popped in my head.
But anyway, danica, in thisinterview, when the guy said,
well, you worked all your lifefor that Lamborghini and she
(39:48):
said, yeah, I realized it really, really wasn't what I wanted,
right.
And she said, all my life Ineeded one.
That was my driving force.
I needed to have that.
Then, when I got it, I was okaywith you.
Know what I got?
It it's done.
And now I want Right.
And she went and bought that.
Right and and she and he said,wow, it must be nice to have
(40:09):
that kind of money.
And he said, well, theLamborghini is what made me have
that kind of money, and socause I turned my Lamborghini
into that's something I need inmy life.
So this was on the short.
This morning it was a littlethree minutes short, and that
does you know.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
It drives home what I just said Getting to a place
where want and need don't holdtwo separate spaces Right, yep,
Yep.
Understanding that the way themechanism works is, you would
not be given the desire to wantsomething unless it was needed
to help you experience andevolve.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yes, totally with you on the same page.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
That's how that mechanism actually works.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
That's how you build excessive abundance Right.
You have to be able to, in yourown mind, fathom the place
where you take your wants andyou turn them into needs, and
that becomes the driving forcebehind your excessive abundance.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, until you can get to a place where the want is
okay.
Yes, is okay as a child, andcoming up just because you want
it doesn't mean you need it.
How many times did you?
Speaker 1 (41:24):
hear that yeah right.
I remember so many times.
That many times did you hearthat yeah right.
I remember so many times that Iheard that in my life yeah,
exactly, but I want it.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Well, just because you want it doesn't mean that
you need it, and so I can'tafford it, right?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
now.
My dad used to say put yourwants in one hand and shit in
the other one.
See what one fills up first.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Actually that's yes, 100%, or spitting the other.
You know, my grandma would tryto clean it up, but yeah, I
can't tell you how many times Iwas told that as well, and so we
were taught to segregate thosetwo things out.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Everybody's taught that A need is defined as what
do I need to sustain my liv?
Speaker 2 (41:57):
an experiential life.
You need any want that comesacross because it serves a
(42:34):
purpose just like in the exampleyou gave.
That want is your higher selfknows what will get you from
point A to point B, and ifyou're supposed to go down this
path, then higher self is goingto give you this unwavering
desire to want something to getyou to be driven in that
(43:00):
direction, whatever that is, andit's perfectly okay.
So if you can do that foryourself and put the wants in
the same category of I needeverything I want because it is
in some form or fashion drivingme to the next evolutional point
(43:21):
in my life for growth andexpansion, that's the key place
to get to right, I agree totallywith you.
I like it and so whatever babysteps you have to do to get
there is what you have to put inplace, and so you have to
figure out what that is.
How do I get there?
Baby steps, am I at a placewhere I can take a leap right?
(43:42):
Am I at a place where I gottatake baby steps?
And if you are that singleparent trying to raise two kids
and you barely make enough to dothe bills, you gotta stop and
look at.
Okay, I definitely havedefinitions in place of if I
could just, dear lord, if Icould just meet our needs this
(44:03):
month, then we we'll be okay.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
And let me feed my kids.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
And the stress will be off of me, and so that's
exactly what you're going to get.
Yep, then you get a day'smoment to breathe, and then the
first comes and you're sittingdown and you're saying the same
prayer Please let me get throughthis month in the same form or
fashion.
And next thing you know, that'sjust what life becomes.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
It becomes a habit.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
And you're not necessarily growing or evolving,
you're just existing.
And that is not a comfortableplace.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
It's okay to just exist.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
So stop, and ask yourself these questions what
would I have to believe to betrue in order to experience life
like this?
And fill in the blank, and itcould be something small enough
like what would I have tobelieve to be true to experience
(44:58):
life where I have an extra $500a month Start small.
$200 a month Start small $200 amonth, an extra $50 a month so
that I can have these new shoes.
Find your motivating factor andtake baby steps.
If you're not in a place whereyou can make that big jump just
(45:20):
play with it a little bit andask those questions and then
wait for the answers.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
What's it going to hurt?
Try it.
Right Play with it it's notright, it's not gonna hurt
anything I bet it'll change yourlife yeah, whatever you've got
to do to play the game yeah,because we're here for
experiences and that's just thetruth of it, and those
experiences need abundance, theyneed finances, those even silly
.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
The more fun and the more silly you make it.
That is a frequency that islight-hearted even if you have
to go literally buy monopolymoney and pretend like you pay
yourself money with the pinkmoney preferably.
It's the best color and then yougo and you have a catalog where
(46:06):
you go through and you spendyour monopoly money, open the
catalog and money is no objectnow because you have this
monopoly money, shit, tons of it, and in your mind's eye you
pick that thing on that page,you put the money in that page
and you've bought it virtuallyyeah and then you daydream about
(46:28):
what it would look like, whatit feels like, what it smells
like to have it on, drive it,whatever.
and if you can actually take itone step further and go put
yourself in that situation likeif it's a car and you've paid
your Monopoly money for it, ormake yourself like on the secret
.
She actually has tools that youcan download and print, and one
(46:53):
of those is a check from theuniverse.
You can make yourself out acheck from the universe.
You take that money and go buythe car in your mind and then go
down and test drive the carwrite the check for over though
or just write a check justbecause, and give it a new
amount go down and actually sitin the car, or even test drive
(47:15):
the car so that you can see whatit feels like to sit in the
energy of it feel the energy.
Put your hands around thesteering wheel to even bring it
more about into your reality.
Anybody can go.
Look at one on the floor.
You don't have to have anycredentials.
You don't have to show yourbank statement or your credit
(47:35):
number to go.
Look at the card.
Touch it, feel it.
Do those things that will bringit more and more into your
reality and make it morevisceral.
If it's actual money that youwant, write yourself a check
from the universe.
Play that game.
Pay yourself with Monopolymoney, whatever you can do to
(47:57):
get yourself closer and closerto experiencing that.
If you can't do a visualizationand you actually have to have
something on hand.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Go to the Halloween store, buy you a package of that
Halloween money.
That's like $100,000 bills andcarry it around in your wallet
like I do.
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Well, I feel pretty good, so what do?
Speaker 2 (48:22):
you think yeah, you feel complete.
I think so.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
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Love.
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