December 18, 2025 • 48 mins
What if healing didn’t take forever—and you could choose it in the present tense? We dive into the subtle art of collaborating between the human and spiritual worlds, showing how to step out of trauma loops and into a felt frequency of freedom. Instead of trying to be your younger self, we focus on reclaiming the sensation your younger self lived in: curiosity, ease, and joy. When you find that frequency, time flies, your body relaxes, and your nervous system stops scanning for danger. That’s not wishful thinking; it’s pattern interruption and practice.
We unpack why retelling your story can quietly become an identity and how to stop feeding it. You’ll hear a simple test for when it’s healthy to share your past without re-triggering, and a practical tool to reprogram cues: change one or two environmental variables—lighting, music, seat, show—then repeat calmly until the old trigger loses its grip. We also reframe memory: your mind isn’t a storage unit. File completed experiences into the universal library and keep the space for what lifts you.
We close with a first look at Lucidium World, our one-stop, gamified ecosystem for seekers and practitioners. Think coaching, astrology, tarot, courses, community halls, and a marketplace designed for global reach—so users find help faster and practitioners meet aligned clients without chasing breadcrumbs across platforms. If you’re building a practice or looking for guidance, this is where growth meets play.
Subscribe, share this with someone stuck in a loop, and tell us: what’s one cue you’ll change tonight to shift your frequency?
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SPEAKER_00 (01:12):
Good morning, everybody.
Welcome back to the spiritualgrind.
I changed the morning.
I changed the intro just alittle bit right there today.
Did you see that?
Signifying a new beginning.
SPEAKER_02 (01:23):
Oh.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (01:26):
No, really, I just messed up it to the other.
SPEAKER_03 (01:30):
So I guess we'll change it up.
SPEAKER_00 (01:32):
Yeah, it's okay.
Howdy, y'all.
Yeah, I would have changed itfor one thing.
Well, we're back, and thank youfor listening again and tuning
back in.
Uh, we should be getting back ontrack this week.
Um, I think I've healed prettywell.
It went pretty good.
I'm not gonna talk about myhealing issues for everybody
because we're gonna actuallyhave a fun podcast this morning.
SPEAKER_03 (01:51):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (01:52):
You know what that we're gonna talk about today?
SPEAKER_03 (01:54):
What?
Playing skip bow?
SPEAKER_00 (01:55):
I don't know.
What is this with this cardthing you're doing lately?
You're wanting to go buy cardsand stuff.
You've never in my life everwanted to go play cards
anywhere.
It's kind of crazy.
I don't know what's going on.
Are you getting old?
SPEAKER_03 (02:08):
Wow, for you that we're like playing cards was
getting old.
SPEAKER_00 (02:14):
Yeah, that's funny.
That was funny.
SPEAKER_03 (02:17):
I am getting wiser.
SPEAKER_00 (02:20):
Wiser?
Bud wise.
Not as in bud.
Oh, that's wrong wise.
SPEAKER_03 (02:27):
Wrong wise.
SPEAKER_00 (02:28):
Wrong wise.
SPEAKER_03 (02:31):
You can me wrong wise, baby wrong wise.
SPEAKER_00 (02:38):
Well, thank you all for listening and be patient
with this, by the way.
Uh, as we've been a little bitdelayed, and we do appreciate
y'all tuning in.
Hey, you know what we got today?
SPEAKER_03 (02:47):
Out of pocket for a minute.
SPEAKER_00 (02:48):
We got the invite to the 2026 Podfest Cup Podfest
Convention from Buzzsprout.
They asked us if we would liketo attend the Bud Sprout.
They offered free tickets to it.
SPEAKER_02 (03:03):
Why?
SPEAKER_00 (03:04):
Because we're podcasters and we use Buzz
Sprouts.
I mean, they're you know,they're trying to bring their
people in and they know that uhwe're not we haven't monetized
the podcast.
And so they that's why I wouldassume because we've been paying
them for So they give us freetickets because they know we're
fucking broke and can't pay forthe ticket.
SPEAKER_03 (03:22):
Is that weird?
SPEAKER_00 (03:23):
That's it.
No, I think it's about they'retrying to get their b all the
bus sprout group together.
SPEAKER_03 (03:30):
Look at these poor fools.
They've been doing this for twoyears and they've yet to make a
dime on it.
Let's give them poor fools somefree tickets.
Bless their little pee pickinghearts.
SPEAKER_00 (03:41):
Now they're uh they sent the email this morning.
I thought I'd share that withyou on the podcast.
SPEAKER_03 (03:46):
Where's it at?
SPEAKER_00 (03:46):
It's in Orlando.
SPEAKER_03 (03:48):
Oh, so it's closed.
SPEAKER_00 (03:49):
Yeah, January 15th through the 18th.
SPEAKER_03 (03:51):
Oh.
SPEAKER_00 (03:52):
And so And what do you do?
It's just a convention forpodcasters.
I don't know what uh I was Ijust started looking at it a
little bit before I got in theshower.
SPEAKER_03 (04:01):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_00 (04:01):
But it was uh definitely different.
SPEAKER_03 (04:05):
It probably has like vendors with equipment and stuff
like that.
SPEAKER_00 (04:09):
Yeah, and it's also for users.
I mean for uh followers, peoplethat have followers, they come
to see their podcasters inperson.
SPEAKER_03 (04:16):
And so they're like Oh, so are they want us to like
set up a table?
SPEAKER_00 (04:21):
I don't know.
I sent an email to find out whattheir expectations are.
SPEAKER_02 (04:25):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (04:26):
I don't know.
They're offering free tickets,so huh.
But they did they do say the onerequirement is if if they pay
for the tickets is they allowthey we get together with the
Buzz Sprout group.
SPEAKER_02 (04:37):
Yeah.
Um and do what?
SPEAKER_00 (04:40):
I don't know.
There's like a four-hour thingthat they want us to do with all
the Buzz Sprout people.
I assume it's probably some kindof a big picture or something
they take with all thepodcasters or I don't know.
I don't know.
It may be a kind of cool, a goodway to network.
SPEAKER_03 (04:55):
For four hours.
SPEAKER_00 (04:57):
Well, the no, the the whole thing is three days.
It's uh the fifteenth,sixteenth, seven oh, four days.
Fifteenth, sixteenth,seventeenth, and it ends at
three on the eighteenth.
SPEAKER_02 (05:09):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (05:09):
So I don't know.
But it may be a good time to Idon't know, we'll see.
I'll I'll see what theirexpectations are.
SPEAKER_03 (05:15):
I see.
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Um but maybe we could dress up.
SPEAKER_03 (05:19):
We could dress up like carrots.
SPEAKER_00 (05:21):
Carrots?
What does carrots have to dowith anything?
SPEAKER_03 (05:25):
Carrot sandwich.
Oh, carrots going down therabbit hole.
Oh, yeah.
How soon we forget.
SPEAKER_00 (05:31):
Yeah, that's a good one.
I like it.
You know, and funny, becausetoday my my topic of study time
this morning, uh, it brought up,you know, my little brain game
thing.
It said it the word of the daywas collaborative.
SPEAKER_03 (05:49):
Collaborative.
SPEAKER_00 (05:50):
Yes, was the word of the day that I was supposed to
learn.
SPEAKER_03 (05:53):
Do you say that differently with the enunciation
on different part of the word?
SPEAKER_00 (05:57):
Collaborative?
SPEAKER_03 (05:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (05:59):
Collaborative.
There's there's different waysof saying it, yeah.
But it has three differentpronunciations on it.
SPEAKER_03 (06:06):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (06:06):
I recognize collaborative or collaborative.
SPEAKER_03 (06:10):
Different ways, but I just didn't recognize the
word.
SPEAKER_00 (06:13):
But what I thought was really cool about it was it
kind of fall into place with myuh studies this morning.
And my studies this morning wereis how we collaborate with our
spiritual world and our humanworld.
Like for example, you know, withwe daily we do is it too loud.
(06:40):
No.
Uh daily we live in a spiritualworld and a human world at the
same time.
And so what happens to it, likefor example, I was also reading
this morning or watching a videothis morning on one of the
metaphysical teachers that Iwatch every now and then, and
she said, Do you know when youhave a traumatic event and when
(07:01):
you relive that traumatic eventto try to remove the belief
systems of the trauma behind it,yeah, that during that moment in
time you're actually relivingyourself, taking your your
reality back to the time whenthat happened.
SPEAKER_01 (07:14):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (07:14):
So if you had a traumatic event at twenty-five,
when you go to relive thatreality, you are taking yourself
back to being twenty-five andreliving the moment in the
human.
Which that is where thecollaborative hole comes, rabbit
hole comes into place for metoday.
SPEAKER_02 (07:29):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (07:30):
Is understanding that when we do have that
traumatic event and we go backto it, the collaborative event
within it, we do relive the sameage.
But here's the cool part aboutit.
Is when you live that col whenyou live that collaborative
moment and you clear that, canyou stay that age?
Dum dump dum.
One of these buttons is the oneI want to hear.
(07:53):
Nope, not that one.
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
SPEAKER_03 (07:57):
That's the one you want?
SPEAKER_00 (07:58):
No, not really.
But anyway.
SPEAKER_03 (08:01):
I don't think you have a button program for that.
SPEAKER_00 (08:03):
I don't.
But it is uh I don't know, it'sone of those.
SPEAKER_03 (08:11):
Okay, so your question the rabbit hole arena
is when you are reliving in anevent and you go back to that
time and space of that event.
SPEAKER_00 (08:27):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (08:28):
Can you stay that age in this reality?
In this reality.
SPEAKER_00 (08:34):
How cool would that be?
SPEAKER_03 (08:35):
I mean, you're the one creating your reality.
You can be any age you want inyour reality.
SPEAKER_00 (08:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (08:41):
It's your holographic reality.
SPEAKER_00 (08:45):
Yeah.
Because, like, like, forexample, one event that popped
in my head this morning for meis when I did have that car
accident when I was 14.
And when I was 14, I, you know,uh, that was a traumatic event
for me.
And it kind of changed myviewpoint of life at that age.
(09:05):
And I kind of quit taking lifeas a fourteen-year-old and
started taking it as trying tobe an adult and turning in my
life my entire life into howmuch money I could make and all
that stuff.
I don't know why.
Because I know that ofultimately that accident cost a
lot of money for me to gethealthy again.
And so I think I took it uponmyself to change my reality into
(09:29):
trying to completely become anadult at 14.
And but so I was thinking thismorning when I was working at
that traumatic event, I waslooking at it.
Well, can I not stay thatchildlike you know, look or
vision of myself then?
SPEAKER_03 (09:48):
You you mean you want to look like you're
fourteen?
SPEAKER_00 (09:53):
No, I want to have the same uh personality when I
was fourteen before theaccident.
That you know, I was just veryfree thought.
I was, you know, I thought Icould take on the world, I could
defeat anything, I was funny, itwas very outgoing, social, and I
want to recreate that in my lifeagain.
(10:13):
And that way it kind of trumpsall the other traumatic events.
You go back to the very firstone you can think of and then it
does it does it trump you?
Does it take you where you don'thave to change your personality
again over and over and overagain?
Can you just go back to thatfun-loving heart that I was at
(10:33):
14?
SPEAKER_03 (10:35):
Of course you can.
It's a state of mind.
SPEAKER_00 (10:38):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (10:39):
It's not a state of being.
SPEAKER_00 (10:41):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_03 (10:43):
It's a state of mind, and you can put your mind
in that state of perception atany point that you choose to put
your state of mind in thatplace.
SPEAKER_00 (10:55):
Where is your thought process in this?
Like you're you seem like you'renot engaged in this conversation
with me for a moment.
Did I lose you?
SPEAKER_03 (11:05):
Aren't you funny?
SPEAKER_00 (11:08):
Or I'm not giving you enough information to be
able to collaborate upon it withme.
SPEAKER_03 (11:13):
No, you I'm fine.
I get what you're saying.
SPEAKER_00 (11:17):
Okay.
And so please do tell.
How do we stay in that in thatchildlike thought?
SPEAKER_03 (11:23):
It's a practiced habit.
It's a choice.
SPEAKER_00 (11:26):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (11:27):
It's a every day finding the frequency of that
place that you want to be in andpracticing that and not getting
wrapped up in the human loop oftrauma, drama about every little
(11:48):
topic, or being hyper-vigilant,or being um hyper-focused on any
one thing.
It's about finding the frequencythat you enjoy that feels good
and doing whatever techniques,steps, whatever things that you
(12:08):
need to do to stay in thatfrequency of that place.
All all your so essentially whatyou're looking for is the way
that situation made you feel.
SPEAKER_00 (12:22):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (12:23):
Right?
SPEAKER_00 (12:24):
Agreed.
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (12:24):
You're going back and you're remembering a time
and place, not because thethings that necessarily that you
were doing, but because the waythat you felt or you remember
feeling in that time of yourlife.
SPEAKER_00 (12:41):
Prior to the dramatic event.
SPEAKER_03 (12:43):
Right.
Okay.
That's what you said.
SPEAKER_00 (12:45):
Right.
Agreed.
SPEAKER_03 (12:46):
It was a fun time.
You have memories of having funand just free spirited and just
living life.
Uh what one would say, likewilly-nilly, no worries, no
concerns.
That just freedom of fun-lovinglife.
Yep.
That's a frequency.
(13:07):
That's a way of feeling, andthat's what you're looking for.
It's not your, it's not thatyou're looking to be 14 again.
It's not that you're looking forthe mental mindset of how you
looked or thought at a as a14-year-old, or even the things
that you did as a 14-year-old.
(13:29):
I mean, because if that was thecase, then you could very easily
go buy you a$40 bike fromWalmart, get on it, and go ride
the town.
And then boom, you would beright back in that place.
If you, I mean, you cancertainly try that.
You do things to get you back tothe frequency of it.
SPEAKER_02 (13:53):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (13:54):
And if that is one of the ways to get back to it,
is to go to Walmart, buy you ahuffy bike, hop on the bitch,
and go ride about town to tryand recreate the feeling.
SPEAKER_00 (14:07):
And knock on all your neighbors' doors and all
that stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (14:10):
That that created, then try it.
SPEAKER_00 (14:12):
Take your telescoping fishing pole and go
wading into the lake andfishing.
SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
I mean buy a fishing pole and go wade in the lake
that's right here in front ofyou.
If you are trying to look fortechniques that recreate that
feeling.
SPEAKER_00 (14:29):
So can we so asking the Dr.
Jenny part of this?
If is there a way to recreatethat frequency and that energy
without having to go through allthe traumatic events?
SPEAKER_03 (14:43):
Of course.
SPEAKER_00 (14:45):
How do you do that?
SPEAKER_03 (14:46):
I mean, there's there's different ways.
I gave you one, go it.
Live it.
Go live it.
Go physically, on purpose,intentionally, try different
things that help you find thefrequency that you're seeking.
SPEAKER_00 (15:03):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (15:04):
Like I said, go buy a bicycle, go buy those roller
skates and put on some knee padsand some music and roller skate.
Go play skip bow.
Try different things, and theminute that you find that,
you'll know.
You'll know when you find itbecause you'll know how it
feels.
SPEAKER_00 (15:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (15:24):
And then you ride that wave until it doesn't feel
that way.
And then you look for the nextthing.
That's what I mean whenever Isay go find your joy.
Go find those little snippets ofjoy, whatever they are, because
the minute you can find thefrequency of doing what brings
you joy, time stops.
SPEAKER_00 (15:47):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_03 (15:48):
And it when you it it doesn't stop, it actually
moves very quickly.
And when you're moving throughtime that quickly, then you're
not aging.
SPEAKER_00 (15:58):
Right.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (15:59):
Right?
That's the rabbit hole place ofthat.
SPEAKER_00 (16:02):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (16:03):
When the day just flies by and you don't even
realize that you've been sittingthere doing what you're doing
for like fucking 12 hours, thenyou you're not you're not using
up time.
Right.
So you actually are not aging.
That's what happens when theastronauts, you know, go and
(16:25):
they're not necessarily riding atime wave.
So essentially what you'retalking about is it's not that
you're wanting to go back and bethe 14-year-old person.
It's that you're wanting to findthe energy frequency of what it
felt like to be thatfree-spirited, carefree
(16:46):
lifestyle that you had at thatage, where you just hop on your
bike and you ride across town orgo fishing with your buddies or
whatever, and just being able tobe free to do that.
SPEAKER_00 (17:02):
So with that, with that frequency that we find and
get in tune with back prior totraumatic events.
How do you, as a human getthrough the emotional roller
coaster of the of the events,but still energetically align
with the frequency behind thefeeling you're looking for?
SPEAKER_03 (17:27):
You mean after you've had the traumatic event
or the trauma drama?
SPEAKER_00 (17:32):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (17:33):
Well, I mean, the the first thing you I would
recommend is being aware ofwhether or not you've
experienced a traumatic event,you acknowledge that you had
one, you let the emotions andthe feelings come through from
having that, and then let thehealing begin.
(17:56):
Not just begin, but be done.
Be done.
Okay.
All of this time space that itrequires because you're healing
or trying to heal will determinehow long you take to heal from
something.
When you get ready Well, whenyou're programming your mind to
(18:19):
say, I'm healing or I'm tryingto get better, you're delaying
your beautiful.
You're delaying it and keepingit somewhat in the future to
where it never is completelydone and I'm healed.
SPEAKER_00 (18:33):
Yeah.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (18:34):
Because the reality and the rabbit hole of it is
that you are healed todaybecause today you're a different
human being than you wereyesterday.
You're choosing to bring thattrauma drama with you from
yesterday's person.
You wake up every morning whenyou wake up, you wake up in a
different timeline.
SPEAKER_00 (18:54):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_03 (18:55):
And when you wake up in that new timeline, you choose
what baggage you're going tobring with you to continue to
carry around in the newtimeline.
What beliefs, what programs,what patterns, what dirty
diapers, what shit, whatever,you know.
And if you choose to stay in atrauma drama lifestyle and stay
(19:17):
in a trauma loop or a medicalloop by continuing to tell your
medical symptoms or your medicalstory because your stories are
your identity, and you've andyou've decided that I gotta tell
this story about having this caraccident as a 14-year-old over
and over and over because that'spart of my identity.
(19:41):
Then you'll retell it and you'llrelive it and you'll take
yourself back every single time.
And that can kit that can keepyou somewhat stuck in the trauma
loop of that instead of itactually having an opportunity
to heal and you forget about itand you move on, and it's never
even a thought in your head.
(20:01):
That's why you say to me, Do youremember when this and this
happened?
And I say, No, I don't fuckingremember that.
Yeah, you know, because I'veexperienced it, I've lived it,
I've filed it into the AkashicRecord Universal Library, and I
move on because those stories,those events, those traumas,
(20:24):
they don't live inside of mymental warehouse.
They don't get to occupy spaceunless I'm actively working on a
traumatic situation for myself.
You have to give them a newwarehouse to live in.
Otherwise, it does trip.
You up and you stay in thattrauma loop of reliving that.
unknown (20:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:47):
And so what I what I would tell my clients is stop
telling the story.
Stop identifying it as youridentity.
It's it's not your identity,it's just something that you
went through.
SPEAKER_01 (20:57):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:57):
And you learned from it.
You experienced what you weresupposed to experience.
Now, I mean, pack that bag upand hand it off to the universe
and move the fuck on.
Like, um, well, like you make itsound very easy to do.
Like your neck injury.
It can just be that easy ifyou're willing to let go of
(21:19):
stuff and if you're willing todo the homework, it can be a one
or two day kind of scenario.
It doesn't have to be a lifelongdrag it out that way.
You gotta be willing to let shitgo though, man.
SPEAKER_00 (21:35):
But is there any is there any value to clearing
those stories prior to actuallydropping them off at the Caussic
Records?
SPEAKER_03 (21:44):
Say it in a different way.
SPEAKER_00 (21:45):
So, like for example, um you have a traumatic
event and you tell the story andthen you before you drop it off
to the Acaustic Records, youhave you have now retold the
story again.
Is there any part to retellingthat story again?
Is there anything that'sbeneficial in it?
SPEAKER_03 (22:06):
Is there any part of your shit that's beneficial
before you drop it off in thecommote?
SPEAKER_00 (22:11):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (22:12):
What?
SPEAKER_00 (22:13):
Uh my shit.
It it smells like roses.
SPEAKER_03 (22:17):
I mean, are you shitting gold coins or what?
SPEAKER_00 (22:19):
Sometimes.
SPEAKER_03 (22:21):
I mean, no, it's a literal metaphor.
Like if there was still benefitto be had by it, then you you
would know that it's it's stillneeds to be utilized.
And the beautiful thing thatpeople forget is that you can
access the Akashic Recordsanytime you need to.
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So if there is benefit, if youcome along a journey and you're
supposed to work with thisindividual as their healer, and
you need to pull on that storyto have a relatable situation
with this person because it'sbeneficial to tell your story to
them, which most of the timepeople, when they're in their
own trauma drama, they don'tfucking want to hear your story,
(23:04):
they then you can always pullthat back forward and you can
utilize bits and pieces of it.
But like I said, most of thetime, if somebody comes to you
wanting a session or coaching,they don't really care to hear
your story.
They don't care, they want tofeel better themselves, they
(23:27):
want their story to hold thelimelight, they want to be the
attention whore, they need to bethe one in the light, and they
don't care about hearing otherpeople's trauma drama stories.
It was kind of like right afteryour stroke, that guy walked by
and he wanted to talk about thebruise on his ankle, and we were
like, Okay, well, I just had twostrokes and a bleed.
(23:49):
Wow.
Right?
Right.
Or the guy that came up in theparking lot wanting to talk
about his kidney stone, and yousaid, Listen, dude, I just had
two strokes and a bleed.
I don't really need your shitright now.
Because you were having kind ofa tired, frustrated day.
SPEAKER_01 (24:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (24:06):
Well, that's kind of how that feels when you're
working with clients, or whenclients come and they want to
get over their own trauma drama.
SPEAKER_01 (24:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (24:16):
So, no, is there a benefit on hanging on to that
and and utilizing it somewheredown the road?
On an average traditional basis,no.
It was your personal experience,it was for your growth and your
evolution.
And so, no, very rarely does itcome back into play.
(24:36):
If you're using it to tell yourstory over and over again, then
it's something that you're usingas validation, justification.
Uh you're utilizing it for somepurpose that benefits you, not
(24:58):
your client, not the personyou're talking to.
And so, no, from my perspective,it is not useful.
It's no more useful than theshit that you put in the commode
whenever you take a shit.
You don't need it anymore.
SPEAKER_00 (25:11):
No, I think uh, you know, that there's a lot of
times that that when like forexample, for me, when I re when
I relive traumatic events in mymind, I will sometimes share
those stories.
And and you're right, I need totear and I do I need to uh turn
that back to where I quit doingthat.
(25:32):
And uh and let the traumaticevents go away.
Which I think I've done a prettygood job of that, of most of my
traumatic events in my life.
Um But you know, the one part init that is hard for me to
understand when to share andwhen not to share is when does
pee when do you share atraumatic event as a purposeful
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story and not take ownership ofit again?
How do you do that?
SPEAKER_03 (26:02):
Well, why why would you think that it would be a
purposeful story?
SPEAKER_00 (26:08):
Well, you just never know.
You never know when somebody'sgonna need that information or
are you supposed to share those?
I mean, because that's part ofuh the human experiences we
relate with others.
We find relatable experiences orrelatable stories, and like you
know, like for example.
SPEAKER_03 (26:22):
But are you relating with that individual because you
tell them some trauma dramastory that you have?
SPEAKER_00 (26:28):
Or are you using it for educational purposes or
whatever?
SPEAKER_03 (26:32):
I mean, would it be more beneficial to tell like a
lighthearted story or a funstory instead of some story
about death or dying orsomething?
I totally agree.
SPEAKER_00 (26:43):
I totally agree.
I think that sometimes you startwith traumatic events and then
you turn that relatableexperience into a positive
outcome.
And I think part of that journeyas a human is to expose that
story and turn it into somethingpositive.
And then that's a way to changeyour traumatic event.
SPEAKER_03 (27:03):
Well, then you'll know when to s share the story.
SPEAKER_00 (27:07):
I agree.
SPEAKER_03 (27:08):
If you have to ask the question, should I tell this
story or should I not?
Then it's not time to tell thestory.
SPEAKER_00 (27:13):
Well, that's not what I I'm saying.
I think you and I have had thisconversation quite a few times
in our life, and what I'm sayingis like for other people, how do
they identify when to share andwhen not to share?
And how do they not become, youknow, take ownership of that
same traumatic event in theirlife again?
Yeah, how do they how do you howdo people learn when to do that,
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when not to do that?
SPEAKER_03 (27:35):
Well, it's practice, it's a habit.
When you get to a point whereyou can tell the story and it
doesn't create an emotion withinyou, yeah, then you know that
you've healed from that and thatyou can use it in the positive
way of mentorship that you'retalking about.
SPEAKER_00 (27:52):
Right.
No, I agree.
SPEAKER_03 (27:53):
You're you're wanting to um talk about how
does one know that they canshare the story of having gone
through this trauma to helpother people realize they're not
alone or that this is how I gotthrough it.
You might try these techniques.
(28:14):
When you can talk about it andit doesn't create that emotional
trigger, that emotional responsewithin you, and you can just
talk about it neutrally, thenyou know that you're not living
in that trauma loop.
Okay.
Or when you get hyper-focused onit and that's all you can talk
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about, then you know that therestill is some healing going on
and a habit going on that youwant to stay attuned to to make
sure you don't get locked up inthe trauma loop of the
experience itself and thatyou're actually healing and
letting go of it.
SPEAKER_00 (28:53):
Yeah, I think that's you know, that's a a snag for a
lot of humans, a lot of people.
SPEAKER_03 (28:58):
It becomes a habit.
SPEAKER_00 (28:59):
It does, it can very easily become a habit.
You know, like me, I'm aninvestigative kind of guy.
And like with with me, when Ihave trauma or stuff that
happens in my life, I try toinvestigate it.
Uh and I not even my stuff, I'llbe living at other people's
stuff and trying to investigatetheir stuff.
And I have to be real careful ofnot getting caught up in that
loop of taking ownership ofthose things that I don't need
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to take ownership of.
SPEAKER_03 (29:23):
I mean, yeah, I is especially in your story, uh you
you had someone who uh livedthat kind of life.
SPEAKER_00 (29:35):
Oh, yeah, it's still does all of my life.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (29:38):
And so whenever you're trained to see that this
is what life looks like, thenyou adapt that habit as this is
what normal life looks like.
And so very easily you can getsnatched back up into the
minding everyone else's businessor getting looped up in the
(30:02):
trauma drama of the world aroundyou if you're not consciously
aware of it happening becauseyou lived as a child in that
life.
You know, that was what yourlife looked like.
SPEAKER_00 (30:16):
No, I totally agree with you.
And and there's been parts ofthe stuff.
And it still goes on.
It does, it's still they stilltry to, but I have turned it
away most of the time, all therest of my life.
But what I do know that I haveuh what I did back in the past
was is I took ownership ofsomebody else's beliefs and b
and then I took that into myreality and come to find out
down the road that it was wasn'teven it was false.
(30:38):
It wasn't even true.
And but so I went through mylife d identifying these
different things in my life asand and taking ownership of
these bad beliefs and these badstories.
And so like and there's alwaysbeen what I've learned is
there's always a part of thatwhere I get to a point where I'm
(31:01):
like, you know what?
I am done with this.
And it's like and and I'll shutit down, and that's just what I
do.
But I d I I have a tendency ofnot releasing the trauma.
I'll just shut it down and quittalking about it.
Or and uh and I have to quitdoing this.
SPEAKER_03 (31:15):
How do you know you're not leaving releasing the
trauma?
What does that feel like?
Or like how how do you know?
SPEAKER_00 (31:20):
Still feels like it's unfinished business, you
know, when you say like I'm donewith this, I'm not talking about
this no more, and and and you'veseen me do it.
I'll just like I just shut itdown.
I just don't want nothing to dowith any of it.
And the reality is I'm nothandling that properly, and so I
have to release it before I shutit down.
SPEAKER_03 (31:38):
So what I guess what I'm asking is what happens to
make you aware that you didn'thandle it properly and it's and
it's coming back around likeit's like it just feels
unfinished.
So you just go around feelingunfinished about it and you just
ignore it, kinda, yeah, and thenit pops back up or what?
SPEAKER_00 (31:56):
Yes, and that's a it's a bad habit.
I know a lot of people that dothat in their life, and they'll
just ignore the stuff thatinstead of acknowledging it,
taking ownership of whateverthey're supposed to take, and
then releasing it, you know, wewill just instead of you know
facing the problem and handlingit and getting learning from it,
we just put it into the into thethe dark abyss hole in the back
(32:18):
of our mind and and and it untilit pops back up later because
we're not handling it properly.
And that's something I did formany years.
I did that for many, many years.
SPEAKER_03 (32:27):
I think one of the other things that people get
confused with is people areafraid to not remember.
SPEAKER_00 (32:34):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (32:35):
Because the the memory topic itself has been
given such this weird entangledthing of if you can't remember
every single freaking thing,then oh my god, you got memory
issues.
Okay, like it's okay to likeempty your memory warehouse out
(32:58):
and not remember shit.
Like it's okay, especially ifyou've dealt with it, you've
experienced it, and you've movedon.
Like your brain is not eversupposed to be like it was not
meant to be a memory warehousefor goddamn sake.
It was not supposed to be likethis big giant place where you
shove every little fuckingmemory in there and hang on to
(33:21):
it for the rest of your life.
It wasn't meant to be that.
SPEAKER_01 (33:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (33:25):
And so when people are afraid to forget something
or afraid not to have thememory, then they'll hang on to
every little morsel and everylittle tidbit when you get to a
place where you're fine notremembering it because it
because you know that it itlives in the Akashic Records,
(33:47):
and when you know like you know,like you know that you can pull
that back out of the AkashicRecords if you ever need to
revisit it, or you know thatyour guides, your higher self,
your source, your god, whatever,will give you the information
when you need to know it or ifyou need to know it, then there
(34:09):
is no aspect of I forgot or Ican't remember that.
Yeah.
And if you walk around saying Iforgot all the time or I can't
remember that, you're literallyprogramming your mind to not
remember shit and to forgetshit.
SPEAKER_00 (34:27):
Agreed.
I agree.
SPEAKER_03 (34:28):
So you won't pull shit forward.
SPEAKER_00 (34:31):
And and I think that is the the loop that you just
really defined all of it formost humans is they teach
themselves like they have atraumatic event.
We go back, we look at it, weteach ourselves, and then we
re-repeat it and own it, andthen we turn around and teach
ourselves to keep repeating it.
And that's where I was gettingat in this podcast today was is
(34:54):
it's so easy to get caught up inthe human trap of constantly
reliving the any traumatic eventin your life.
SPEAKER_02 (35:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:03):
And then you take ownership of it, and then you
end up reliving the freakingtraumatic event somewhere down
the road because you have notreleased it.
SPEAKER_02 (35:09):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (35:10):
And understand or learn from it what you need to
learn, be happy about it andrelease it instead of just
throwing it in the back of theabyss until it re pops its head
back up.
SPEAKER_03 (35:18):
Yeah.
Until it gets so big that it'sgonna be louder and louder and
right and bigger until becauseyou're ignoring it.
SPEAKER_00 (35:25):
And that's where I have been the over the last
couple of days after mytraumatic event, is this same
progress is I'm I'm allowing tounderstand what happened, I'm
giving myself the power to say,you know what, I'm not gonna let
that be there anymore.
And I'm going to and I'm goingto continue to get my human out
of the way of it.
Because my human will get in theway.
(35:46):
I'm the the biggest guilty humanin the world that will
continuously relive things whenyou don't need to.
SPEAKER_02 (35:53):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:54):
And so that's kind of where I the way I wanted to
talk about the podcast today,because I know there's a lot of
people that relive these thingsconstantly, and they they don't
understand why they're doingwhat they do, and they just keep
reliving it, or they'll justthrow it in the back of the
abyss until it pops back up.
And and that's what I'm I'mhoping that people to learn
today is it's okay to own whathappened.
SPEAKER_03 (36:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (36:15):
It's okay to be part of what happened.
SPEAKER_03 (36:18):
It's not just okay, it's imperative as part of the
healing.
SPEAKER_00 (36:21):
I agree.
I agree.
SPEAKER_03 (36:22):
Yeah, acknowledge that it happened.
SPEAKER_00 (36:24):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (36:25):
And then then the healing can can begin.
SPEAKER_00 (36:30):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (36:30):
But also it's it's it's okay once the healing has
completed, it's it's okay to notremember it.
Yeah.
It's okay to let it go.
SPEAKER_02 (36:43):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (36:44):
And it doesn't have to live in your head.
I agree.
Like, how many times in our lifedo you say, Oh, do you remember
that?
SPEAKER_00 (36:53):
And I'll be like, No, I don't remember that.
You you you clear out the memorybanks all the time.
You wipe that card every time.
SPEAKER_03 (37:01):
Yeah.
And if you don't think you'redoing it, I'll I'll give you
this exercise.
Or are you talking to somebodyelse?
SPEAKER_00 (37:07):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (37:09):
Go back and make a list, get your little sweet
journals out.
You know, I am the journaler.
Get your little sweet journalsout, make a list of all of the
traumatic events that havehappened in your life.
Write them down.
Yeah.
Then in the other column, goback and write down all of the
(37:30):
beautiful, wonderful, happymoments that happened.
SPEAKER_00 (37:35):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (37:36):
And which list is longer?
SPEAKER_00 (37:38):
Oh, yeah.
And then people don't identifythe happy, that's the problem.
SPEAKER_03 (37:42):
Right, because it's not uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_00 (37:44):
That's right.
SPEAKER_03 (37:45):
It's comfortable.
SPEAKER_00 (37:46):
And so they have a hard time remembering all the
unhappy.
SPEAKER_03 (37:48):
So practice remembering the happy times.
SPEAKER_00 (37:52):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (37:52):
And that way they can help heal the uncomfortable
times.
SPEAKER_00 (37:57):
You know, I've had I've had many people in my life
over the course of the years askabout my time behind the bars
and wanting to tell me about allthe stuff that happened.
SPEAKER_03 (38:06):
Candy bars.
SPEAKER_00 (38:07):
And I don't I literally, there's a m the 99%
of what happened, I do notremember.
Because there's one time that Iremember that it's the most
important part of it.
And that's the day I walked outthe freaking doors.
SPEAKER_02 (38:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (38:20):
And I remember I can tell you word verbatim what
happened that moment in time.
And to still to this day, itstill drives me.
And that is a very importantpart of my life in my normal
day.
Is I don't I didn't I let go ofthe traumatic event and I walked
out.
And it felt so good to do that.
And you got to do the same thingwith any traumatic event.
(38:42):
You know, be instead of askingyou can actually verbatim in
your mind create a vision ofwhat happened and then walk away
from it.
SPEAKER_03 (38:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (38:52):
And then just let it back there.
SPEAKER_03 (38:53):
Right.
But you know, and if you're onewho chooses to drag it out and
to draw it out, you said I'dmake it sound so easy.
You know, put yourself back inthe scenario, put yourself back
in the circumstance, putyourself back in the situation
as best you can, either mentallyor physically, and change one
(39:15):
aspect.
SPEAKER_00 (39:16):
Right.
Yeah, I like it.
SPEAKER_03 (39:18):
Turn a lamp on, turn the TV show to something
different.
Create the scenario that bringsup the anxiety, or w what we
call is it's a rub up against ora bump up against placed.
Recreate the reality if you can,and then change something in
(39:42):
your environment.
Or if you're usingvisualization, recreate the
visualization almost in like alucid dream kind of way, and
change out a piece of furnitureor change out something.
What that will actually do isit'll it'll do two things.
One it'll change the scene inyour mind.
(40:07):
Two, it lets you reprogram yourphysical symptoms and your
physical system of the fight orflight, when those components
get bundled together, it won'tbe a trigger anymore because
you've changed some component ofit.
(40:30):
Like your body looks forpatterns, your mind, your eyes,
it looks for patterns in yourreality.
And if you've had a traumaticevent, it's it's Going through
there looking for the red flags,looking for the similarities.
And when it starts to find twoor three or four of the
similarities, then it goes intothat fight or flight place and
(40:52):
it starts to release thedifferent chemicals, the
adrenaline, the cortisol, blah,blah, blah.
If and I'll give you an examplewith your event, I have a a wee
bit uh because it's been only ashort amount of time, have a wee
bit of a a little bit of atrauma in the evening, dusk,
(41:17):
sitting on the couch watching TVshow, because that's where our
event started.
SPEAKER_00 (41:21):
Right.
Agreed.
SPEAKER_03 (41:23):
But in watching a different kind of TV show, I
have now changed the scenariojust a little bit to where I can
sit there peacefully on thecouch at that same time of day
watching a different kind ofshow with you that reprograms
that whole system and allowshealing so that I no longer say
(41:47):
to myself, Oh my god, panic, redalert.
SPEAKER_00 (41:50):
Right, yeah, you didn't know the parameters.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (41:53):
Be on red alert because it was this time of day
watching this show with himsitting in this same spot, the
lights at the same dimness thatcreated this yucky,
uncomfortable event in the firstplace.
Yeah.
So in that situation, I justchanged the show on the TV.
(42:14):
Or I leave the lights.
SPEAKER_00 (42:15):
Change a parameter.
Just change any parameter.
SPEAKER_03 (42:17):
Any one or two parameters, and then do that for
a while, it'll bring you out ofthat trigger response.
SPEAKER_00 (42:24):
Agreed.
I feel pretty good.
How do you feel?
You feel complete?
SPEAKER_03 (42:27):
Yeah, I think it was a good topic.
SPEAKER_00 (42:29):
I think it was a good one.
And uh I hope everybody learnedsomething from it.
But hey, you know, here's aquick update.
Lucidiumworld.com.
Um it is amazing.
Wait till you all see it.
It's gonna be so cool.
And uh go to the website,lucidiumworld.com, sign up for a
subscriber, and uh won't be longthat you'll be able to buy the
(42:51):
early bird special to have itfor a year at a very discounted
rate.
Um yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (42:56):
Also, if you are a practitioner of uh, you know, a
life coach, uh, an astrologyreader, tarot reader life path
reader, you do tarot cards forpeople, any metaphysical
practitioner, anything you dovirtually, um uh teacher, right?
(43:16):
You can uh you know, whatever.
We've got that open as well.
You can go to lucidium.com,right?
Uh you can sign up to be apractitioner and go through the
uh review process.
Correct.
Because inside the app is thecommunity hall where you can
actually take clients insidetheir and have a whole marketing
(43:41):
um and access to uh the globalusers can reach the
practitioners and thepractitioners can reach the
users.
SPEAKER_00 (43:49):
That's right.
And it's all done through theapp.
SPEAKER_03 (43:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (43:51):
And it's it's all done basically.
I mean, if you're apractitioner, it could be free.
Now there are there's gonna bedifferent levels of commission
through that because we stillhave to pay for the platform.
SPEAKER_01 (43:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (44:00):
But the the it'll be all discounted rates for
everybody.
SPEAKER_01 (44:03):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (44:03):
And the users get discounted if they're a the
subscriber, they're gonna get adiscount to work with the
practitioner.
And the practitioner, if theywork with us, they're gonna get
a discount to work with otherpractitioners and and uh they
get to expand their uh client.
SPEAKER_03 (44:18):
Yeah, now the practitioner part of it is not
free.
SPEAKER_00 (44:22):
Right.
Well, there is a level of itthat's free.
SPEAKER_03 (44:24):
There's there's a level that is free, but it does
cost a little bit because wehave to do the setup and um the
service and all of that.
Yeah, it's called onboarding.
Um but you can read that onLucidiumworld.com.
SPEAKER_00 (44:38):
Well it's not on there yet, it will be on this
next week.
Uh uh where I'm working with thecoders now for the the job form
the form.
So when they sign up, which theyhave the back end set up now.
And so now we have to link thewebsite to the back ends app.
It's minutes, yeah.
And they were working on italready.
And so we are literally within aday or two of being able to set
(45:00):
take up early bird users andearly bird practitioners.
SPEAKER_03 (45:04):
Yeah, and there's also a store that'll be
available.
Yep.
And so if you are a healerthrough a product that you've
created and you want to bringyour store over, bring your
product over, uh, there's gonnabe a place for that type of
(45:26):
healing as well.
SPEAKER_00 (45:27):
Correct.
We'll be able to actually centerShopify stores to it.
SPEAKER_03 (45:31):
Um is a foundation that houses every single
modality that we can possiblythink of so that we can be
available all in one locationfor people around the world so
they don't have to spend theirdays following breadcrumbs and
(45:54):
trying to find the informationand find the knowledge like you
and I had to do back in the day.
SPEAKER_00 (45:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (45:59):
I wanted it to be a one-stop shop where every single
thing we can think of to craminto this one location is
available for people to completeecosystems, correct, gamified
ecosystem.
Right.
And if it looks somethingdifferent tomorrow, then you've
(46:20):
got the tools and the access tobe able to change it tomorrow.
Yeah.
Without having to constantly golooking for that.
So if you've got educationalvideos and you're looking for a
place to put them, you've gotproducts that you're looking for
a place to sell them orservices, uh, Lucidium World is
(46:40):
gonna be that that place foryou.
And not only that, but we'vegamified it and made it really
fun to learn.
SPEAKER_00 (46:47):
Agreed.
So you know, and that's what alot of people don't understand
is how the internet works.
And yeah, you may have, youknow, you have you ever heard of
overnight sensations and peoplego viral overnight with videos
and those kind of things?
That does happen, but it's veryrare.
SPEAKER_02 (47:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:01):
Because most of the time your stuff stays in your
region.
SPEAKER_02 (47:05):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (47:05):
It stays in within your unless you have friends
from all over the world.
SPEAKER_02 (47:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:11):
Or people that see a comedian that just because
they're th you know thumbingthrough their their feed, then
they're they will not ever goviral or not ever have the
following that they want.
Because now that in an app thatis not controlled by a region,
it's gonna be international.
(47:32):
And so you can go for literallyovernight from having a hundred
thousand subscribers or ahundred thousand followers to
millions because you're nowtouching eight point eight
billion people.
SPEAKER_02 (47:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:45):
And so it's a whole different world.
But anyway, hey, we appreciateyou all listening today.
Don't forget to like, follow,and share, or uh like, follow,
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And uh don't forget to ring thatbell.
Hey, thank you all forlistening, and we hope you all
have an awesome day.
SPEAKER_03 (47:59):
Love ya.
Good morning, everybody.
Welcome back to the spiritualgrind.
I changed the morning.
I changed the intro just alittle bit right there today.
Did you see that?
Signifying a new beginning.
SPEAKER_02 (01:23):
Oh.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (01:26):
No, really, I just messed up it to the other.
SPEAKER_03 (01:30):
So I guess we'll change it up.
SPEAKER_00 (01:32):
Yeah, it's okay.
Howdy, y'all.
Yeah, I would have changed itfor one thing.
Well, we're back, and thank youfor listening again and tuning
back in.
Uh, we should be getting back ontrack this week.
Um, I think I've healed prettywell.
It went pretty good.
I'm not gonna talk about myhealing issues for everybody
because we're gonna actuallyhave a fun podcast this morning.
SPEAKER_03 (01:51):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (01:52):
You know what that we're gonna talk about today?
SPEAKER_03 (01:54):
What?
Playing skip bow?
SPEAKER_00 (01:55):
I don't know.
What is this with this cardthing you're doing lately?
You're wanting to go buy cardsand stuff.
You've never in my life everwanted to go play cards
anywhere.
It's kind of crazy.
I don't know what's going on.
Are you getting old?
SPEAKER_03 (02:08):
Wow, for you that we're like playing cards was
getting old.
SPEAKER_00 (02:14):
Yeah, that's funny.
That was funny.
SPEAKER_03 (02:17):
I am getting wiser.
SPEAKER_00 (02:20):
Wiser?
Bud wise.
Not as in bud.
Oh, that's wrong wise.
SPEAKER_03 (02:27):
Wrong wise.
SPEAKER_00 (02:28):
Wrong wise.
SPEAKER_03 (02:31):
You can me wrong wise, baby wrong wise.
SPEAKER_00 (02:38):
Well, thank you all for listening and be patient
with this, by the way.
Uh, as we've been a little bitdelayed, and we do appreciate
y'all tuning in.
Hey, you know what we got today?
SPEAKER_03 (02:47):
Out of pocket for a minute.
SPEAKER_00 (02:48):
We got the invite to the 2026 Podfest Cup Podfest
Convention from Buzzsprout.
They asked us if we would liketo attend the Bud Sprout.
They offered free tickets to it.
SPEAKER_02 (03:03):
Why?
SPEAKER_00 (03:04):
Because we're podcasters and we use Buzz
Sprouts.
I mean, they're you know,they're trying to bring their
people in and they know that uhwe're not we haven't monetized
the podcast.
And so they that's why I wouldassume because we've been paying
them for So they give us freetickets because they know we're
fucking broke and can't pay forthe ticket.
SPEAKER_03 (03:22):
Is that weird?
SPEAKER_00 (03:23):
That's it.
No, I think it's about they'retrying to get their b all the
bus sprout group together.
SPEAKER_03 (03:30):
Look at these poor fools.
They've been doing this for twoyears and they've yet to make a
dime on it.
Let's give them poor fools somefree tickets.
Bless their little pee pickinghearts.
SPEAKER_00 (03:41):
Now they're uh they sent the email this morning.
I thought I'd share that withyou on the podcast.
SPEAKER_03 (03:46):
Where's it at?
SPEAKER_00 (03:46):
It's in Orlando.
SPEAKER_03 (03:48):
Oh, so it's closed.
SPEAKER_00 (03:49):
Yeah, January 15th through the 18th.
SPEAKER_03 (03:51):
Oh.
SPEAKER_00 (03:52):
And so And what do you do?
It's just a convention forpodcasters.
I don't know what uh I was Ijust started looking at it a
little bit before I got in theshower.
SPEAKER_03 (04:01):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_00 (04:01):
But it was uh definitely different.
SPEAKER_03 (04:05):
It probably has like vendors with equipment and stuff
like that.
SPEAKER_00 (04:09):
Yeah, and it's also for users.
I mean for uh followers, peoplethat have followers, they come
to see their podcasters inperson.
SPEAKER_03 (04:16):
And so they're like Oh, so are they want us to like
set up a table?
SPEAKER_00 (04:21):
I don't know.
I sent an email to find out whattheir expectations are.
SPEAKER_02 (04:25):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (04:26):
I don't know.
They're offering free tickets,so huh.
But they did they do say the onerequirement is if if they pay
for the tickets is they allowthey we get together with the
Buzz Sprout group.
SPEAKER_02 (04:37):
Yeah.
Um and do what?
SPEAKER_00 (04:40):
I don't know.
There's like a four-hour thingthat they want us to do with all
the Buzz Sprout people.
I assume it's probably some kindof a big picture or something
they take with all thepodcasters or I don't know.
I don't know.
It may be a kind of cool, a goodway to network.
SPEAKER_03 (04:55):
For four hours.
SPEAKER_00 (04:57):
Well, the no, the the whole thing is three days.
It's uh the fifteenth,sixteenth, seven oh, four days.
Fifteenth, sixteenth,seventeenth, and it ends at
three on the eighteenth.
SPEAKER_02 (05:09):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (05:09):
So I don't know.
But it may be a good time to Idon't know, we'll see.
I'll I'll see what theirexpectations are.
SPEAKER_03 (05:15):
I see.
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Um but maybe we could dress up.
SPEAKER_03 (05:19):
We could dress up like carrots.
SPEAKER_00 (05:21):
Carrots?
What does carrots have to dowith anything?
SPEAKER_03 (05:25):
Carrot sandwich.
Oh, carrots going down therabbit hole.
Oh, yeah.
How soon we forget.
SPEAKER_00 (05:31):
Yeah, that's a good one.
I like it.
You know, and funny, becausetoday my my topic of study time
this morning, uh, it brought up,you know, my little brain game
thing.
It said it the word of the daywas collaborative.
SPEAKER_03 (05:49):
Collaborative.
SPEAKER_00 (05:50):
Yes, was the word of the day that I was supposed to
learn.
SPEAKER_03 (05:53):
Do you say that differently with the enunciation
on different part of the word?
SPEAKER_00 (05:57):
Collaborative?
SPEAKER_03 (05:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (05:59):
Collaborative.
There's there's different waysof saying it, yeah.
But it has three differentpronunciations on it.
SPEAKER_03 (06:06):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (06:06):
I recognize collaborative or collaborative.
SPEAKER_03 (06:10):
Different ways, but I just didn't recognize the
word.
SPEAKER_00 (06:13):
But what I thought was really cool about it was it
kind of fall into place with myuh studies this morning.
And my studies this morning wereis how we collaborate with our
spiritual world and our humanworld.
Like for example, you know, withwe daily we do is it too loud.
(06:40):
No.
Uh daily we live in a spiritualworld and a human world at the
same time.
And so what happens to it, likefor example, I was also reading
this morning or watching a videothis morning on one of the
metaphysical teachers that Iwatch every now and then, and
she said, Do you know when youhave a traumatic event and when
(07:01):
you relive that traumatic eventto try to remove the belief
systems of the trauma behind it,yeah, that during that moment in
time you're actually relivingyourself, taking your your
reality back to the time whenthat happened.
SPEAKER_01 (07:14):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (07:14):
So if you had a traumatic event at twenty-five,
when you go to relive thatreality, you are taking yourself
back to being twenty-five andreliving the moment in the
human.
Which that is where thecollaborative hole comes, rabbit
hole comes into place for metoday.
SPEAKER_02 (07:29):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (07:30):
Is understanding that when we do have that
traumatic event and we go backto it, the collaborative event
within it, we do relive the sameage.
But here's the cool part aboutit.
Is when you live that col whenyou live that collaborative
moment and you clear that, canyou stay that age?
Dum dump dum.
One of these buttons is the oneI want to hear.
(07:53):
Nope, not that one.
Yeah, that's it.
That's it.
SPEAKER_03 (07:57):
That's the one you want?
SPEAKER_00 (07:58):
No, not really.
But anyway.
SPEAKER_03 (08:01):
I don't think you have a button program for that.
SPEAKER_00 (08:03):
I don't.
But it is uh I don't know, it'sone of those.
SPEAKER_03 (08:11):
Okay, so your question the rabbit hole arena
is when you are reliving in anevent and you go back to that
time and space of that event.
SPEAKER_00 (08:27):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (08:28):
Can you stay that age in this reality?
In this reality.
SPEAKER_00 (08:34):
How cool would that be?
SPEAKER_03 (08:35):
I mean, you're the one creating your reality.
You can be any age you want inyour reality.
SPEAKER_00 (08:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (08:41):
It's your holographic reality.
SPEAKER_00 (08:45):
Yeah.
Because, like, like, forexample, one event that popped
in my head this morning for meis when I did have that car
accident when I was 14.
And when I was 14, I, you know,uh, that was a traumatic event
for me.
And it kind of changed myviewpoint of life at that age.
(09:05):
And I kind of quit taking lifeas a fourteen-year-old and
started taking it as trying tobe an adult and turning in my
life my entire life into howmuch money I could make and all
that stuff.
I don't know why.
Because I know that ofultimately that accident cost a
lot of money for me to gethealthy again.
And so I think I took it uponmyself to change my reality into
(09:29):
trying to completely become anadult at 14.
And but so I was thinking thismorning when I was working at
that traumatic event, I waslooking at it.
Well, can I not stay thatchildlike you know, look or
vision of myself then?
SPEAKER_03 (09:48):
You you mean you want to look like you're
fourteen?
SPEAKER_00 (09:53):
No, I want to have the same uh personality when I
was fourteen before theaccident.
That you know, I was just veryfree thought.
I was, you know, I thought Icould take on the world, I could
defeat anything, I was funny, itwas very outgoing, social, and I
want to recreate that in my lifeagain.
(10:13):
And that way it kind of trumpsall the other traumatic events.
You go back to the very firstone you can think of and then it
does it does it trump you?
Does it take you where you don'thave to change your personality
again over and over and overagain?
Can you just go back to thatfun-loving heart that I was at
(10:33):
14?
SPEAKER_03 (10:35):
Of course you can.
It's a state of mind.
SPEAKER_00 (10:38):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (10:39):
It's not a state of being.
SPEAKER_00 (10:41):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_03 (10:43):
It's a state of mind, and you can put your mind
in that state of perception atany point that you choose to put
your state of mind in thatplace.
SPEAKER_00 (10:55):
Where is your thought process in this?
Like you're you seem like you'renot engaged in this conversation
with me for a moment.
Did I lose you?
SPEAKER_03 (11:05):
Aren't you funny?
SPEAKER_00 (11:08):
Or I'm not giving you enough information to be
able to collaborate upon it withme.
SPEAKER_03 (11:13):
No, you I'm fine.
I get what you're saying.
SPEAKER_00 (11:17):
Okay.
And so please do tell.
How do we stay in that in thatchildlike thought?
SPEAKER_03 (11:23):
It's a practiced habit.
It's a choice.
SPEAKER_00 (11:26):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (11:27):
It's a every day finding the frequency of that
place that you want to be in andpracticing that and not getting
wrapped up in the human loop oftrauma, drama about every little
(11:48):
topic, or being hyper-vigilant,or being um hyper-focused on any
one thing.
It's about finding the frequencythat you enjoy that feels good
and doing whatever techniques,steps, whatever things that you
(12:08):
need to do to stay in thatfrequency of that place.
All all your so essentially whatyou're looking for is the way
that situation made you feel.
SPEAKER_00 (12:22):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (12:23):
Right?
SPEAKER_00 (12:24):
Agreed.
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (12:24):
You're going back and you're remembering a time
and place, not because thethings that necessarily that you
were doing, but because the waythat you felt or you remember
feeling in that time of yourlife.
SPEAKER_00 (12:41):
Prior to the dramatic event.
SPEAKER_03 (12:43):
Right.
Okay.
That's what you said.
SPEAKER_00 (12:45):
Right.
Agreed.
SPEAKER_03 (12:46):
It was a fun time.
You have memories of having funand just free spirited and just
living life.
Uh what one would say, likewilly-nilly, no worries, no
concerns.
That just freedom of fun-lovinglife.
Yep.
That's a frequency.
(13:07):
That's a way of feeling, andthat's what you're looking for.
It's not your, it's not thatyou're looking to be 14 again.
It's not that you're looking forthe mental mindset of how you
looked or thought at a as a14-year-old, or even the things
that you did as a 14-year-old.
(13:29):
I mean, because if that was thecase, then you could very easily
go buy you a$40 bike fromWalmart, get on it, and go ride
the town.
And then boom, you would beright back in that place.
If you, I mean, you cancertainly try that.
You do things to get you back tothe frequency of it.
SPEAKER_02 (13:53):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (13:54):
And if that is one of the ways to get back to it,
is to go to Walmart, buy you ahuffy bike, hop on the bitch,
and go ride about town to tryand recreate the feeling.
SPEAKER_00 (14:07):
And knock on all your neighbors' doors and all
that stuff.
SPEAKER_03 (14:10):
That that created, then try it.
SPEAKER_00 (14:12):
Take your telescoping fishing pole and go
wading into the lake andfishing.
SPEAKER_03 (14:16):
I mean buy a fishing pole and go wade in the lake
that's right here in front ofyou.
If you are trying to look fortechniques that recreate that
feeling.
SPEAKER_00 (14:29):
So can we so asking the Dr.
Jenny part of this?
If is there a way to recreatethat frequency and that energy
without having to go through allthe traumatic events?
SPEAKER_03 (14:43):
Of course.
SPEAKER_00 (14:45):
How do you do that?
SPEAKER_03 (14:46):
I mean, there's there's different ways.
I gave you one, go it.
Live it.
Go live it.
Go physically, on purpose,intentionally, try different
things that help you find thefrequency that you're seeking.
SPEAKER_00 (15:03):
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (15:04):
Like I said, go buy a bicycle, go buy those roller
skates and put on some knee padsand some music and roller skate.
Go play skip bow.
Try different things, and theminute that you find that,
you'll know.
You'll know when you find itbecause you'll know how it
feels.
SPEAKER_00 (15:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (15:24):
And then you ride that wave until it doesn't feel
that way.
And then you look for the nextthing.
That's what I mean whenever Isay go find your joy.
Go find those little snippets ofjoy, whatever they are, because
the minute you can find thefrequency of doing what brings
you joy, time stops.
SPEAKER_00 (15:47):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_03 (15:48):
And it when you it it doesn't stop, it actually
moves very quickly.
And when you're moving throughtime that quickly, then you're
not aging.
SPEAKER_00 (15:58):
Right.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (15:59):
Right?
That's the rabbit hole place ofthat.
SPEAKER_00 (16:02):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (16:03):
When the day just flies by and you don't even
realize that you've been sittingthere doing what you're doing
for like fucking 12 hours, thenyou you're not you're not using
up time.
Right.
So you actually are not aging.
That's what happens when theastronauts, you know, go and
(16:25):
they're not necessarily riding atime wave.
So essentially what you'retalking about is it's not that
you're wanting to go back and bethe 14-year-old person.
It's that you're wanting to findthe energy frequency of what it
felt like to be thatfree-spirited, carefree
(16:46):
lifestyle that you had at thatage, where you just hop on your
bike and you ride across town orgo fishing with your buddies or
whatever, and just being able tobe free to do that.
SPEAKER_00 (17:02):
So with that, with that frequency that we find and
get in tune with back prior totraumatic events.
How do you, as a human getthrough the emotional roller
coaster of the of the events,but still energetically align
with the frequency behind thefeeling you're looking for?
SPEAKER_03 (17:27):
You mean after you've had the traumatic event
or the trauma drama?
SPEAKER_00 (17:32):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (17:33):
Well, I mean, the the first thing you I would
recommend is being aware ofwhether or not you've
experienced a traumatic event,you acknowledge that you had
one, you let the emotions andthe feelings come through from
having that, and then let thehealing begin.
(17:56):
Not just begin, but be done.
Be done.
Okay.
All of this time space that itrequires because you're healing
or trying to heal will determinehow long you take to heal from
something.
When you get ready Well, whenyou're programming your mind to
(18:19):
say, I'm healing or I'm tryingto get better, you're delaying
your beautiful.
You're delaying it and keepingit somewhat in the future to
where it never is completelydone and I'm healed.
SPEAKER_00 (18:33):
Yeah.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (18:34):
Because the reality and the rabbit hole of it is
that you are healed todaybecause today you're a different
human being than you wereyesterday.
You're choosing to bring thattrauma drama with you from
yesterday's person.
You wake up every morning whenyou wake up, you wake up in a
different timeline.
SPEAKER_00 (18:54):
Agreed.
SPEAKER_03 (18:55):
And when you wake up in that new timeline, you choose
what baggage you're going tobring with you to continue to
carry around in the newtimeline.
What beliefs, what programs,what patterns, what dirty
diapers, what shit, whatever,you know.
And if you choose to stay in atrauma drama lifestyle and stay
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in a trauma loop or a medicalloop by continuing to tell your
medical symptoms or your medicalstory because your stories are
your identity, and you've andyou've decided that I gotta tell
this story about having this caraccident as a 14-year-old over
and over and over because that'spart of my identity.
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Then you'll retell it and you'llrelive it and you'll take
yourself back every single time.
And that can kit that can keepyou somewhat stuck in the trauma
loop of that instead of itactually having an opportunity
to heal and you forget about itand you move on, and it's never
even a thought in your head.
(20:01):
That's why you say to me, Do youremember when this and this
happened?
And I say, No, I don't fuckingremember that.
Yeah, you know, because I'veexperienced it, I've lived it,
I've filed it into the AkashicRecord Universal Library, and I
move on because those stories,those events, those traumas,
(20:24):
they don't live inside of mymental warehouse.
They don't get to occupy spaceunless I'm actively working on a
traumatic situation for myself.
You have to give them a newwarehouse to live in.
Otherwise, it does trip.
You up and you stay in thattrauma loop of reliving that.
unknown (20:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:47):
And so what I what I would tell my clients is stop
telling the story.
Stop identifying it as youridentity.
It's it's not your identity,it's just something that you
went through.
SPEAKER_01 (20:57):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:57):
And you learned from it.
You experienced what you weresupposed to experience.
Now, I mean, pack that bag upand hand it off to the universe
and move the fuck on.
Like, um, well, like you make itsound very easy to do.
Like your neck injury.
It can just be that easy ifyou're willing to let go of
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stuff and if you're willing todo the homework, it can be a one
or two day kind of scenario.
It doesn't have to be a lifelongdrag it out that way.
You gotta be willing to let shitgo though, man.
SPEAKER_00 (21:35):
But is there any is there any value to clearing
those stories prior to actuallydropping them off at the Caussic
Records?
SPEAKER_03 (21:44):
Say it in a different way.
SPEAKER_00 (21:45):
So, like for example, um you have a traumatic
event and you tell the story andthen you before you drop it off
to the Acaustic Records, youhave you have now retold the
story again.
Is there any part to retellingthat story again?
Is there anything that'sbeneficial in it?
SPEAKER_03 (22:06):
Is there any part of your shit that's beneficial
before you drop it off in thecommote?
SPEAKER_00 (22:11):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (22:12):
What?
SPEAKER_00 (22:13):
Uh my shit.
It it smells like roses.
SPEAKER_03 (22:17):
I mean, are you shitting gold coins or what?
SPEAKER_00 (22:19):
Sometimes.
SPEAKER_03 (22:21):
I mean, no, it's a literal metaphor.
Like if there was still benefitto be had by it, then you you
would know that it's it's stillneeds to be utilized.
And the beautiful thing thatpeople forget is that you can
access the Akashic Recordsanytime you need to.
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So if there is benefit, if youcome along a journey and you're
supposed to work with thisindividual as their healer, and
you need to pull on that storyto have a relatable situation
with this person because it'sbeneficial to tell your story to
them, which most of the timepeople, when they're in their
own trauma drama, they don'tfucking want to hear your story,
(23:04):
they then you can always pullthat back forward and you can
utilize bits and pieces of it.
But like I said, most of thetime, if somebody comes to you
wanting a session or coaching,they don't really care to hear
your story.
They don't care, they want tofeel better themselves, they
(23:27):
want their story to hold thelimelight, they want to be the
attention whore, they need to bethe one in the light, and they
don't care about hearing otherpeople's trauma drama stories.
It was kind of like right afteryour stroke, that guy walked by
and he wanted to talk about thebruise on his ankle, and we were
like, Okay, well, I just had twostrokes and a bleed.
(23:49):
Wow.
Right?
Right.
Or the guy that came up in theparking lot wanting to talk
about his kidney stone, and yousaid, Listen, dude, I just had
two strokes and a bleed.
I don't really need your shitright now.
Because you were having kind ofa tired, frustrated day.
SPEAKER_01 (24:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (24:06):
Well, that's kind of how that feels when you're
working with clients, or whenclients come and they want to
get over their own trauma drama.
SPEAKER_01 (24:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (24:16):
So, no, is there a benefit on hanging on to that
and and utilizing it somewheredown the road?
On an average traditional basis,no.
It was your personal experience,it was for your growth and your
evolution.
And so, no, very rarely does itcome back into play.
(24:36):
If you're using it to tell yourstory over and over again, then
it's something that you're usingas validation, justification.
Uh you're utilizing it for somepurpose that benefits you, not
(24:58):
your client, not the personyou're talking to.
And so, no, from my perspective,it is not useful.
It's no more useful than theshit that you put in the commode
whenever you take a shit.
You don't need it anymore.
SPEAKER_00 (25:11):
No, I think uh, you know, that there's a lot of
times that that when like forexample, for me, when I re when
I relive traumatic events in mymind, I will sometimes share
those stories.
And and you're right, I need totear and I do I need to uh turn
that back to where I quit doingthat.
(25:32):
And uh and let the traumaticevents go away.
Which I think I've done a prettygood job of that, of most of my
traumatic events in my life.
Um But you know, the one part init that is hard for me to
understand when to share andwhen not to share is when does
pee when do you share atraumatic event as a purposeful
(25:54):
story and not take ownership ofit again?
How do you do that?
SPEAKER_03 (26:02):
Well, why why would you think that it would be a
purposeful story?
SPEAKER_00 (26:08):
Well, you just never know.
You never know when somebody'sgonna need that information or
are you supposed to share those?
I mean, because that's part ofuh the human experiences we
relate with others.
We find relatable experiences orrelatable stories, and like you
know, like for example.
SPEAKER_03 (26:22):
But are you relating with that individual because you
tell them some trauma dramastory that you have?
SPEAKER_00 (26:28):
Or are you using it for educational purposes or
whatever?
SPEAKER_03 (26:32):
I mean, would it be more beneficial to tell like a
lighthearted story or a funstory instead of some story
about death or dying orsomething?
I totally agree.
SPEAKER_00 (26:43):
I totally agree.
I think that sometimes you startwith traumatic events and then
you turn that relatableexperience into a positive
outcome.
And I think part of that journeyas a human is to expose that
story and turn it into somethingpositive.
And then that's a way to changeyour traumatic event.
SPEAKER_03 (27:03):
Well, then you'll know when to s share the story.
SPEAKER_00 (27:07):
I agree.
SPEAKER_03 (27:08):
If you have to ask the question, should I tell this
story or should I not?
Then it's not time to tell thestory.
SPEAKER_00 (27:13):
Well, that's not what I I'm saying.
I think you and I have had thisconversation quite a few times
in our life, and what I'm sayingis like for other people, how do
they identify when to share andwhen not to share?
And how do they not become, youknow, take ownership of that
same traumatic event in theirlife again?
Yeah, how do they how do you howdo people learn when to do that,
(27:34):
when not to do that?
SPEAKER_03 (27:35):
Well, it's practice, it's a habit.
When you get to a point whereyou can tell the story and it
doesn't create an emotion withinyou, yeah, then you know that
you've healed from that and thatyou can use it in the positive
way of mentorship that you'retalking about.
SPEAKER_00 (27:52):
Right.
No, I agree.
SPEAKER_03 (27:53):
You're you're wanting to um talk about how
does one know that they canshare the story of having gone
through this trauma to helpother people realize they're not
alone or that this is how I gotthrough it.
You might try these techniques.
(28:14):
When you can talk about it andit doesn't create that emotional
trigger, that emotional responsewithin you, and you can just
talk about it neutrally, thenyou know that you're not living
in that trauma loop.
Okay.
Or when you get hyper-focused onit and that's all you can talk
(28:35):
about, then you know that therestill is some healing going on
and a habit going on that youwant to stay attuned to to make
sure you don't get locked up inthe trauma loop of the
experience itself and thatyou're actually healing and
letting go of it.
SPEAKER_00 (28:53):
Yeah, I think that's you know, that's a a snag for a
lot of humans, a lot of people.
SPEAKER_03 (28:58):
It becomes a habit.
SPEAKER_00 (28:59):
It does, it can very easily become a habit.
You know, like me, I'm aninvestigative kind of guy.
And like with with me, when Ihave trauma or stuff that
happens in my life, I try toinvestigate it.
Uh and I not even my stuff, I'llbe living at other people's
stuff and trying to investigatetheir stuff.
And I have to be real careful ofnot getting caught up in that
loop of taking ownership ofthose things that I don't need
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to take ownership of.
SPEAKER_03 (29:23):
I mean, yeah, I is especially in your story, uh you
you had someone who uh livedthat kind of life.
SPEAKER_00 (29:35):
Oh, yeah, it's still does all of my life.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (29:38):
And so whenever you're trained to see that this
is what life looks like, thenyou adapt that habit as this is
what normal life looks like.
And so very easily you can getsnatched back up into the
minding everyone else's businessor getting looped up in the
(30:02):
trauma drama of the world aroundyou if you're not consciously
aware of it happening becauseyou lived as a child in that
life.
You know, that was what yourlife looked like.
SPEAKER_00 (30:16):
No, I totally agree with you.
And and there's been parts ofthe stuff.
And it still goes on.
It does, it's still they stilltry to, but I have turned it
away most of the time, all therest of my life.
But what I do know that I haveuh what I did back in the past
was is I took ownership ofsomebody else's beliefs and b
and then I took that into myreality and come to find out
down the road that it was wasn'teven it was false.
(30:38):
It wasn't even true.
And but so I went through mylife d identifying these
different things in my life asand and taking ownership of
these bad beliefs and these badstories.
And so like and there's alwaysbeen what I've learned is
there's always a part of thatwhere I get to a point where I'm
(31:01):
like, you know what?
I am done with this.
And it's like and and I'll shutit down, and that's just what I
do.
But I d I I have a tendency ofnot releasing the trauma.
I'll just shut it down and quittalking about it.
Or and uh and I have to quitdoing this.
SPEAKER_03 (31:15):
How do you know you're not leaving releasing the
trauma?
What does that feel like?
Or like how how do you know?
SPEAKER_00 (31:20):
Still feels like it's unfinished business, you
know, when you say like I'm donewith this, I'm not talking about
this no more, and and and you'veseen me do it.
I'll just like I just shut itdown.
I just don't want nothing to dowith any of it.
And the reality is I'm nothandling that properly, and so I
have to release it before I shutit down.
SPEAKER_03 (31:38):
So what I guess what I'm asking is what happens to
make you aware that you didn'thandle it properly and it's and
it's coming back around likeit's like it just feels
unfinished.
So you just go around feelingunfinished about it and you just
ignore it, kinda, yeah, and thenit pops back up or what?
SPEAKER_00 (31:56):
Yes, and that's a it's a bad habit.
I know a lot of people that dothat in their life, and they'll
just ignore the stuff thatinstead of acknowledging it,
taking ownership of whateverthey're supposed to take, and
then releasing it, you know, wewill just instead of you know
facing the problem and handlingit and getting learning from it,
we just put it into the into thethe dark abyss hole in the back
(32:18):
of our mind and and and it untilit pops back up later because
we're not handling it properly.
And that's something I did formany years.
I did that for many, many years.
SPEAKER_03 (32:27):
I think one of the other things that people get
confused with is people areafraid to not remember.
SPEAKER_00 (32:34):
Yes.
SPEAKER_03 (32:35):
Because the the memory topic itself has been
given such this weird entangledthing of if you can't remember
every single freaking thing,then oh my god, you got memory
issues.
Okay, like it's okay to likeempty your memory warehouse out
(32:58):
and not remember shit.
Like it's okay, especially ifyou've dealt with it, you've
experienced it, and you've movedon.
Like your brain is not eversupposed to be like it was not
meant to be a memory warehousefor goddamn sake.
It was not supposed to be likethis big giant place where you
shove every little fuckingmemory in there and hang on to
(33:21):
it for the rest of your life.
It wasn't meant to be that.
SPEAKER_01 (33:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (33:25):
And so when people are afraid to forget something
or afraid not to have thememory, then they'll hang on to
every little morsel and everylittle tidbit when you get to a
place where you're fine notremembering it because it
because you know that it itlives in the Akashic Records,
(33:47):
and when you know like you know,like you know that you can pull
that back out of the AkashicRecords if you ever need to
revisit it, or you know thatyour guides, your higher self,
your source, your god, whatever,will give you the information
when you need to know it or ifyou need to know it, then there
(34:09):
is no aspect of I forgot or Ican't remember that.
Yeah.
And if you walk around saying Iforgot all the time or I can't
remember that, you're literallyprogramming your mind to not
remember shit and to forgetshit.
SPEAKER_00 (34:27):
Agreed.
I agree.
SPEAKER_03 (34:28):
So you won't pull shit forward.
SPEAKER_00 (34:31):
And and I think that is the the loop that you just
really defined all of it formost humans is they teach
themselves like they have atraumatic event.
We go back, we look at it, weteach ourselves, and then we
re-repeat it and own it, andthen we turn around and teach
ourselves to keep repeating it.
And that's where I was gettingat in this podcast today was is
(34:54):
it's so easy to get caught up inthe human trap of constantly
reliving the any traumatic eventin your life.
SPEAKER_02 (35:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:03):
And then you take ownership of it, and then you
end up reliving the freakingtraumatic event somewhere down
the road because you have notreleased it.
SPEAKER_02 (35:09):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (35:10):
And understand or learn from it what you need to
learn, be happy about it andrelease it instead of just
throwing it in the back of theabyss until it re pops its head
back up.
SPEAKER_03 (35:18):
Yeah.
Until it gets so big that it'sgonna be louder and louder and
right and bigger until becauseyou're ignoring it.
SPEAKER_00 (35:25):
And that's where I have been the over the last
couple of days after mytraumatic event, is this same
progress is I'm I'm allowing tounderstand what happened, I'm
giving myself the power to say,you know what, I'm not gonna let
that be there anymore.
And I'm going to and I'm goingto continue to get my human out
of the way of it.
Because my human will get in theway.
(35:46):
I'm the the biggest guilty humanin the world that will
continuously relive things whenyou don't need to.
SPEAKER_02 (35:53):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:54):
And so that's kind of where I the way I wanted to
talk about the podcast today,because I know there's a lot of
people that relive these thingsconstantly, and they they don't
understand why they're doingwhat they do, and they just keep
reliving it, or they'll justthrow it in the back of the
abyss until it pops back up.
And and that's what I'm I'mhoping that people to learn
today is it's okay to own whathappened.
SPEAKER_03 (36:15):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (36:15):
It's okay to be part of what happened.
SPEAKER_03 (36:18):
It's not just okay, it's imperative as part of the
healing.
SPEAKER_00 (36:21):
I agree.
I agree.
SPEAKER_03 (36:22):
Yeah, acknowledge that it happened.
SPEAKER_00 (36:24):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (36:25):
And then then the healing can can begin.
SPEAKER_00 (36:30):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (36:30):
But also it's it's it's okay once the healing has
completed, it's it's okay to notremember it.
Yeah.
It's okay to let it go.
SPEAKER_02 (36:43):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (36:44):
And it doesn't have to live in your head.
I agree.
Like, how many times in our lifedo you say, Oh, do you remember
that?
SPEAKER_00 (36:53):
And I'll be like, No, I don't remember that.
You you you clear out the memorybanks all the time.
You wipe that card every time.
SPEAKER_03 (37:01):
Yeah.
And if you don't think you'redoing it, I'll I'll give you
this exercise.
Or are you talking to somebodyelse?
SPEAKER_00 (37:07):
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03 (37:09):
Go back and make a list, get your little sweet
journals out.
You know, I am the journaler.
Get your little sweet journalsout, make a list of all of the
traumatic events that havehappened in your life.
Write them down.
Yeah.
Then in the other column, goback and write down all of the
(37:30):
beautiful, wonderful, happymoments that happened.
SPEAKER_00 (37:35):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (37:36):
And which list is longer?
SPEAKER_00 (37:38):
Oh, yeah.
And then people don't identifythe happy, that's the problem.
SPEAKER_03 (37:42):
Right, because it's not uncomfortable.
SPEAKER_00 (37:44):
That's right.
SPEAKER_03 (37:45):
It's comfortable.
SPEAKER_00 (37:46):
And so they have a hard time remembering all the
unhappy.
SPEAKER_03 (37:48):
So practice remembering the happy times.
SPEAKER_00 (37:52):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (37:52):
And that way they can help heal the uncomfortable
times.
SPEAKER_00 (37:57):
You know, I've had I've had many people in my life
over the course of the years askabout my time behind the bars
and wanting to tell me about allthe stuff that happened.
SPEAKER_03 (38:06):
Candy bars.
SPEAKER_00 (38:07):
And I don't I literally, there's a m the 99%
of what happened, I do notremember.
Because there's one time that Iremember that it's the most
important part of it.
And that's the day I walked outthe freaking doors.
SPEAKER_02 (38:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (38:20):
And I remember I can tell you word verbatim what
happened that moment in time.
And to still to this day, itstill drives me.
And that is a very importantpart of my life in my normal
day.
Is I don't I didn't I let go ofthe traumatic event and I walked
out.
And it felt so good to do that.
And you got to do the same thingwith any traumatic event.
(38:42):
You know, be instead of askingyou can actually verbatim in
your mind create a vision ofwhat happened and then walk away
from it.
SPEAKER_03 (38:51):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (38:52):
And then just let it back there.
SPEAKER_03 (38:53):
Right.
But you know, and if you're onewho chooses to drag it out and
to draw it out, you said I'dmake it sound so easy.
You know, put yourself back inthe scenario, put yourself back
in the circumstance, putyourself back in the situation
as best you can, either mentallyor physically, and change one
(39:15):
aspect.
SPEAKER_00 (39:16):
Right.
Yeah, I like it.
SPEAKER_03 (39:18):
Turn a lamp on, turn the TV show to something
different.
Create the scenario that bringsup the anxiety, or w what we
call is it's a rub up against ora bump up against placed.
Recreate the reality if you can,and then change something in
(39:42):
your environment.
Or if you're usingvisualization, recreate the
visualization almost in like alucid dream kind of way, and
change out a piece of furnitureor change out something.
What that will actually do isit'll it'll do two things.
One it'll change the scene inyour mind.
(40:07):
Two, it lets you reprogram yourphysical symptoms and your
physical system of the fight orflight, when those components
get bundled together, it won'tbe a trigger anymore because
you've changed some component ofit.
(40:30):
Like your body looks forpatterns, your mind, your eyes,
it looks for patterns in yourreality.
And if you've had a traumaticevent, it's it's Going through
there looking for the red flags,looking for the similarities.
And when it starts to find twoor three or four of the
similarities, then it goes intothat fight or flight place and
(40:52):
it starts to release thedifferent chemicals, the
adrenaline, the cortisol, blah,blah, blah.
If and I'll give you an examplewith your event, I have a a wee
bit uh because it's been only ashort amount of time, have a wee
bit of a a little bit of atrauma in the evening, dusk,
(41:17):
sitting on the couch watching TVshow, because that's where our
event started.
SPEAKER_00 (41:21):
Right.
Agreed.
SPEAKER_03 (41:23):
But in watching a different kind of TV show, I
have now changed the scenariojust a little bit to where I can
sit there peacefully on thecouch at that same time of day
watching a different kind ofshow with you that reprograms
that whole system and allowshealing so that I no longer say
(41:47):
to myself, Oh my god, panic, redalert.
SPEAKER_00 (41:50):
Right, yeah, you didn't know the parameters.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (41:53):
Be on red alert because it was this time of day
watching this show with himsitting in this same spot, the
lights at the same dimness thatcreated this yucky,
uncomfortable event in the firstplace.
Yeah.
So in that situation, I justchanged the show on the TV.
(42:14):
Or I leave the lights.
SPEAKER_00 (42:15):
Change a parameter.
Just change any parameter.
SPEAKER_03 (42:17):
Any one or two parameters, and then do that for
a while, it'll bring you out ofthat trigger response.
SPEAKER_00 (42:24):
Agreed.
I feel pretty good.
How do you feel?
You feel complete?
SPEAKER_03 (42:27):
Yeah, I think it was a good topic.
SPEAKER_00 (42:29):
I think it was a good one.
And uh I hope everybody learnedsomething from it.
But hey, you know, here's aquick update.
Lucidiumworld.com.
Um it is amazing.
Wait till you all see it.
It's gonna be so cool.
And uh go to the website,lucidiumworld.com, sign up for a
subscriber, and uh won't be longthat you'll be able to buy the
(42:51):
early bird special to have itfor a year at a very discounted
rate.
Um yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (42:56):
Also, if you are a practitioner of uh, you know, a
life coach, uh, an astrologyreader, tarot reader life path
reader, you do tarot cards forpeople, any metaphysical
practitioner, anything you dovirtually, um uh teacher, right?
(43:16):
You can uh you know, whatever.
We've got that open as well.
You can go to lucidium.com,right?
Uh you can sign up to be apractitioner and go through the
uh review process.
Correct.
Because inside the app is thecommunity hall where you can
actually take clients insidetheir and have a whole marketing
(43:41):
um and access to uh the globalusers can reach the
practitioners and thepractitioners can reach the
users.
SPEAKER_00 (43:49):
That's right.
And it's all done through theapp.
SPEAKER_03 (43:50):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (43:51):
And it's it's all done basically.
I mean, if you're apractitioner, it could be free.
Now there are there's gonna bedifferent levels of commission
through that because we stillhave to pay for the platform.
SPEAKER_01 (43:59):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (44:00):
But the the it'll be all discounted rates for
everybody.
SPEAKER_01 (44:03):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (44:03):
And the users get discounted if they're a the
subscriber, they're gonna get adiscount to work with the
practitioner.
And the practitioner, if theywork with us, they're gonna get
a discount to work with otherpractitioners and and uh they
get to expand their uh client.
SPEAKER_03 (44:18):
Yeah, now the practitioner part of it is not
free.
SPEAKER_00 (44:22):
Right.
Well, there is a level of itthat's free.
SPEAKER_03 (44:24):
There's there's a level that is free, but it does
cost a little bit because wehave to do the setup and um the
service and all of that.
Yeah, it's called onboarding.
Um but you can read that onLucidiumworld.com.
SPEAKER_00 (44:38):
Well it's not on there yet, it will be on this
next week.
Uh uh where I'm working with thecoders now for the the job form
the form.
So when they sign up, which theyhave the back end set up now.
And so now we have to link thewebsite to the back ends app.
It's minutes, yeah.
And they were working on italready.
And so we are literally within aday or two of being able to set
(45:00):
take up early bird users andearly bird practitioners.
SPEAKER_03 (45:04):
Yeah, and there's also a store that'll be
available.
Yep.
And so if you are a healerthrough a product that you've
created and you want to bringyour store over, bring your
product over, uh, there's gonnabe a place for that type of
(45:26):
healing as well.
SPEAKER_00 (45:27):
Correct.
We'll be able to actually centerShopify stores to it.
SPEAKER_03 (45:31):
Um is a foundation that houses every single
modality that we can possiblythink of so that we can be
available all in one locationfor people around the world so
they don't have to spend theirdays following breadcrumbs and
(45:54):
trying to find the informationand find the knowledge like you
and I had to do back in the day.
SPEAKER_00 (45:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (45:59):
I wanted it to be a one-stop shop where every single
thing we can think of to craminto this one location is
available for people to completeecosystems, correct, gamified
ecosystem.
Right.
And if it looks somethingdifferent tomorrow, then you've
(46:20):
got the tools and the access tobe able to change it tomorrow.
Yeah.
Without having to constantly golooking for that.
So if you've got educationalvideos and you're looking for a
place to put them, you've gotproducts that you're looking for
a place to sell them orservices, uh, Lucidium World is
(46:40):
gonna be that that place foryou.
And not only that, but we'vegamified it and made it really
fun to learn.
SPEAKER_00 (46:47):
Agreed.
So you know, and that's what alot of people don't understand
is how the internet works.
And yeah, you may have, youknow, you have you ever heard of
overnight sensations and peoplego viral overnight with videos
and those kind of things?
That does happen, but it's veryrare.
SPEAKER_02 (47:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:01):
Because most of the time your stuff stays in your
region.
SPEAKER_02 (47:05):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (47:05):
It stays in within your unless you have friends
from all over the world.
SPEAKER_02 (47:10):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:11):
Or people that see a comedian that just because
they're th you know thumbingthrough their their feed, then
they're they will not ever goviral or not ever have the
following that they want.
Because now that in an app thatis not controlled by a region,
it's gonna be international.
(47:32):
And so you can go for literallyovernight from having a hundred
thousand subscribers or ahundred thousand followers to
millions because you're nowtouching eight point eight
billion people.
SPEAKER_02 (47:44):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (47:45):
And so it's a whole different world.
But anyway, hey, we appreciateyou all listening today.
Don't forget to like, follow,and share, or uh like, follow,
and share.
And uh don't forget to ring thatbell.
Hey, thank you all forlistening, and we hope you all
have an awesome day.
SPEAKER_03 (47:59):
Love ya.
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