May 15, 2025 • 54 mins
Have you ever wondered what talents remain undiscovered within you? What natural abilities you might have suppressed over the years because someone told you they weren't real or weren't acceptable?
The journey of self-discovery is often blocked by limiting beliefs we've picked up throughout our lives. We've been conditioned to doubt our intuitive abilities and natural talents, especially those that don't fit neatly into society's box of "normal." Remember when you somehow knew the phone would ring before it did, or had a feeling about something before it happened? Those weren't coincidences—they were glimpses of your natural intuitive abilities.
We dive deep into how medical diagnoses like "chemical imbalances" are often given without concrete testing, becoming labels that lock us into patterns that don't serve us. The power of belief in healing is demonstrated through remarkable stories, including one about a child whose eczema was completely cured by Smarties candy he believed was medication. These aren't just interesting anecdotes—they're evidence of our mind's extraordinary ability to influence our physical reality.
Our ancestors, particularly indigenous cultures, understood the power of intuition, vision, and energy work as normal parts of daily life. Modern society has disconnected us from these practices, but we're witnessing a collective return to these awareness practices. The declassified government documents studying these "special abilities" for decades prove what many have known intuitively—these skills are real and powerful.
Whether it's the extreme example of a skydiver successfully jumping without a parachute or a professional gambler who refused to believe "the house always wins," our beliefs create the framework for what we experience. The famous quote rings true: "Whether you think you can or you think you can't, you're right."
Ready to rediscover your natural talents and abilities? Start by questioning the beliefs you've adopted from others. Give yourself permission to explore without judgment, and watch as new possibilities unfold. Your authentic self is waiting to be rediscovered—what will you find when you start looking? Subscribe now and join us on this journey of rediscovery.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Welcome back to the spiritual grind.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Grinding it out, baby , grinding it out Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Good morning everybody.
Hope you're having an awesomeday and we appreciate you tuning
in and listening.
We have a great topic today.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Tune in and turn on.
Tune in Wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh, that's not it.
I was going to say touch me,turn me on and burn me down.
That's the wrong thing.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I think your tuner is off.
That a dwight yocum song yourauto tuner's off just a little
bit well, okay, I've got a goodtopic for today do tell it's
gonna be a fun one, I think it'sgonna be a fun one in light of
our recent events.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I have discovered that my beautiful, lovely wife
has a new talent.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's not a new talent really, it's just not one I've
shared.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Well, it's a discovered talent that you found
.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Not really.
I can remember as a small childwriting things.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And my teachers being always quite pleased.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Great.
So, but the topic of the day isare we allowing ourselves to
discover the talents that wehave?
Are we stuck in a rut?
We do have more talents.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Stuck in a rut.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And you know, because we have a Move your butt.
We're so habitual people thatwe have a tendency to get stuck
in the same thing, doing thesame things, and not discovering
what our inner talents are.
We, you know, if we don't trythings, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I would agree with that a hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And for me it's really eye opening.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Do tell.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, you know well, I've started writing this book
and you discovered the app towrite the book on yes, writing I
.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's quite enjoyable.
I have had immense fun with itover the last couple of days.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, as I am exploring that new enjoyment, I
mean it's so, for it's kind ofeye-opening, because I too have
always been that guy that couldwrite pretty elaborate stories
and be what do you say?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I was looking to see if there was a Kleenex in that
box, because before we started,remember, I said my nose is
stuffy and your cat took themall out and used them all.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's empty Because the cat was playing Whoa whoa,
whoa, for sure, okay.
But the new discovery part ofit.
It's so eye-opening for mebecause it's allowing me to say,
hmm, what else am I good atthat?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Because I've always been able to write stories and I
was always really good at beingvery detailed.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And my description is back in the day and I quit
exercising that.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I feel like I do it, and I sometimes will overdo it.
I've got to the point where,even when I'm speaking, I'll ask
the person when they ask myquestion do you want to know how
to build the clock, or you justwant to know what time it is?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
yeah, you are definitely an oversharer
sometimes I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I don't want to leave any details out.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It's like sometimes you, you will uh, oh no,
sometimes you will uh you gottaput money in the uh phone, not
off jar I heard yours go off tooin the background.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It's not even in here you still.
It still went off in the phone,not off jar.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I heard yours go off too, in the background.
It's not even in here, youstill.
It still went off.
The part of it that really thismorning for me was kind of
really just a cool moment is.
It put me into a thought of man, what have I missed out on?
You know, I've always been agreat artist.
I can draw quite well, I cansculpt, I can do a lot of
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different things.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I would agree with that 100%.
You are very talented.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
And I've always thought about writing a book.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And I get told at least once a week you should
write a book.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, yeah, you've been talking about how you're
doing some research and gettingready, and getting ready and
getting ready for this book.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And the crazy part about it is, you know, I
actually thought about writing achildren's book and I was like,
because that was the mosttraumatic part of my life, was
my childhood, because that wasthe most traumatic part of my
life was my childhood beingraised with parents that muggle
parents Muggle.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
What's that mean?
Yeah, so on Harry Potter, ifyou have no magical talents,
you're called a muggle, and sowhen your parents don't really
identify, everybody has theseair quote special gifts, like
intuition, you know, being ableto channel.
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Everybody has the opportunityto embrace any one of the things
that we have the ability to doand have developed those skills.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's whether they choose to work with them or not.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
And so for you on your path.
Your parents did not choose toopen up to that side of the
world.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Or did I mean?
They didn't choose to open upto anything, they were just
repetitive.
And I'm not, I'm not on here tobash my parents.
They did the best they couldwithout the head.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
No but it can.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
All I was saying not in a bashing way.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I was just saying as a child who is open to the
special gifts or these abilitiesPinch poke, pinch poke.
It can be a bit of a challengeas a child.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Figuring out on your own what the hell it is, and
then how to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well, and then being stifled a lot by everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It wasn't just my parents, it was everybody that
stifled you, except for mygrandfather Right because in our
age time frame that we were in,which was the early 70s, when
we were born, the whole conceptof awakening and higher self and
all of that that we live in nowwas still very hidden and not
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well understood and not wellaccepted at all.
Correct If you were a child whohad the ability to know that
the phone was going to ringbefore it rang and you revealed
that to the adults, they wantedto put you in the cuckoo house.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, I know, I agree , I had many things that used to
come to mind and I would saysomething and they I mean, it's
almost like the beauty is beingbad.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Right the bad.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Why do you have thoughts like that?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Right, why don't you weirdo?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You know, and so you get to where you suppress
yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Why am I the anomaly?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And so I used to go hide in the closet and practice
my stuff I did.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Harry Potter under the stairs.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You'd hear the footsteps going through the
house, with them looking for meand yelling at me, and I'd be in
the closet practicing my stuff.
But the cool part about it is,this morning what came to mind
is all the things that over theyears, I have been taught to
stifle and to hold back and tonot be who I am, and and it was
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very freeing this morning tostart doing that- Nice.
And so you know, my question toour listeners are are you giving
yourself time to self discover,to discover what it is that you
may want to have fun doing?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Or even permission.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, give yourself the permission.
You know we always talk aboutpermission slips, but giving
yourself the permission to besomething different that you are
, that you've always wanted todo or be, yeah, and try it.
What's it going to hurt?
Right, and removing the fears,the negative beliefs that have
been taught to you.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Or what are they going to think about me if I?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
do that.
Yeah, get them out of the way.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Junk that crap in the trash.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
You know, and the bad part about it is the world and
society stifled this of allthese children and all these
people that have theseintuitions and gifts until
probably here, about 10 or 12years ago, when it became a
intellectual curiosity forpeople and then they started
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allowing things on tv, you know,I mean like the long, I mean
long island medium, and thecrazy part about it is is the
government's been studying itfor years, for 50 years, right
right on yeah, 70 years nowactually, because they started
in 1951.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
They actually.
I believe the newest date wasin the 20s.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
In the 20s.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, the latest document that I read that has
been what do you call it whenthe government shares something
Declassified?
Declassified, yeah, showedevidence that they've actually
been studying it as far back asthe 20s.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Some of the concepts you know, like remote viewing
and whatever.
Yeah, a lot of the indigenouspeople of the United States have
been practicing remote viewingfor many years.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And intuition, and they practice their power of
energy, you know, but they do itin their own way and, like the
medicine men and the chiefswould get visions and they would
share those and that's how theywould literally guide their
tribe.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, I mean those cultures for their entire
existence.
That's what they did, that'show they maneuvered life and as
a species, we definitely cameaway from that, that's what they
did.
That's how they maneuvered lifeand as a species we definitely
came away from that.
And now we're coming fullcircle, back to the fact of
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becoming more self-aware, ofattuning to that way of life
again, right.
Attuning to that way of life,again right.
We kind of went uh unconsciousfor a little while and stopped
practicing what our ancestorspracticed on a regular basis as
a normal routine, correct?
You know, understanding yourown energy, understanding your
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own, what we are now callingunique gifts or special talents.
Those were the norm back then Iagree because they didn't have
tv to distract them.
They didn't have cell phones.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
They didn't have land newspapers, social media news.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
They didn't have all the electronic distractions and
even though it's great andwonderful to evolve and see that
evolution, it's exciting whatit did, unfortunately, is it
took us away from what ourancestors were living as a
normal life and put us kind ofin an unawakened state again
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temporarily.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You know the kind of touch on that a little bit is.
You know, we have religions andwe have all these things that
practice and society teaches us.
You know that God created manand all this other stuff.
You know, I don't necessarilyfall into the to the belief that
this God came out of the skyand waved his hand and created
the human race.
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I think you know that we werecreated.
Yes, do I think that there's ahigher power up there?
Yes, but is it a godlikesubstance?
Is it a extraterrestrial?
What is this?
And we have been taught overthe years to stifle that because
it's the unknown.
And we stifle our intuition andour abilities that we've been
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given because we don't know whatwe're a hybrid of or what we
could be a part of.
And when we stifle, when westifle our natural abilities, it
weakens us.
And so, over throughout theyears, as we grow and we expand,
we are still trying to.
What are you doing?
Or still trying to?
What are you doing?
(13:04):
I'm sorry, I'm stuck on thestifling stifle, siphoning, what
Did I say it wrong?
Stifling, I don't think is aword.
Yeah, it is a word.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Stifling.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yes, stifled.
Okay, and what's wrong with theJamesism?
We use Jenny-ism all the timeand so, you know, throughout the
years we go through all thisand we hold ourselves back and
that weakens that ability.
And then, when you rediscoverit, you're like oh, and now
you've got to redevelop it againto bring it back to its time.
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And it's a very fun journey.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, and you're right.
Listen, I mean, you get off thestipend thing.
I'm off of it.
I just wanted to chuckle.
You're completely right.
If you don't use it it willkind of go dormant If you don't
practice it.
Some of them you know, like themediumship and your intuition.
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If you ignore it, then it kindof just lays in the background
quiet, or your ability to havevisions or, um, you know, even
being able to move stuff withyour mind or tap in and connect
with each other and be able toread each other's mind or the,
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the frequency of that thought.
You got to practice thosethings and make them a part of
your daily life in order to keepthem moving and fresh and and
practiced.
Otherwise they do get kind ofdormant and rusty Right.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
You know, as we grow and we evolve and we do things
as humans it's great to do andit's great to be um to expand
our horizons in our and you knowgive back to the collective
consciousness as we learn whatwe have to keep in contact with
our true, natural selves.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, I mean, if you want a reality that seems like
it is in flow all the time andfeels good and is, you know,
full of serendipitousexperiences and full of
excitement and elation, and justfeel good, calm, less chaos,
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then you have to try and keepyour frequency as close to your
normal natural frequency aspossible.
And how do you do that?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Right, well, that's staying in contact with it.
You have to practice it, youhave to allow it to be there.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Right by, just inch, by inch, doing that next thing
that is the most enjoyable,without expectation of what it
has to look like, and that helpsyou find that frequency again
and again and again, which is mydefinition of practice.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So here's a, and you have to do this and allow
yourself to do the things thatfeel natural and have fun, no
matter what anybody says, likethe other day in my class.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
And no matter how they feel.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
How they feel about it.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Sometimes, when you do something, what will pop up
is the awkwardness, and then yougive it a definition of oh my
God, that was so childish.
Why did I do that?
Yeah, it was awkward anduncomfortable and childish.
I'm never doing that again.
And that comes from, you know,unfortunately our parental
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figures saying stop beingchildish.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Well, that's society too.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Right, and so giving yourself the freedom to be
childish.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Play with fairies, play with imaginary friends,
color.
I color every day.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So, like you know what's funny about this, you do?
You actually own your iPad, Ido.
The other day, in my energyclass, when we were talking
about staying optimistic andpositive, and and I said
something, and one of the peoplein my class looked at me and
said how do you?
How did you know what I wasthinking, or whatever?
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And I said, well, that's just aguided thought, you know.
And it's just a guided thoughtthat I translated to you and she
was like what?
And I said well, you know whatyou're doing is you're sitting
there thinking about because I'mreading too and so I'm getting
the little visuals in my head.
I said you're sitting therethinking about how you're.
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You believe that your doctordiagnosed you with a chemical
imbalance and so being positiveis impossible.
And and then I walked over toher and I said do you believe?
With that she and she, sheshowed me her pad and she had
actually written almost thatword for word, verbatim yeah and
I said that's just a guidedthought.
So you expect me to believe thatpeople are given information
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that that communicate to me?
I said, yes, oh, that's just aguided thought.
So you expect me to believethat people are giving
information that communicate tome?
I said, yes, oh, that's hogwash.
I was like, okay, have you everhad deja vu?
Well, yeah, doesn't everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Well, you can wash your hog if you want to.
You want me to get you somesoap.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
And she says, well, doesn't everybody?
I said, yeah, so what is dejavu?
Oh, um, it's where I I haddreamed about something and then
I lived it.
I rest my case.
And she was like what I said?
What?
What?
Are you a time traveler, areyou, or do you?
Do you get visions of what'sgoing to happen in the future?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
oh, I love those oh moments when you're teaching
someone a concept and you getthat light bulb.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Oh, I said do you remember getting deja vu moments
a lot more when you wereyounger?
And she says yeah, I rememberin high school I used to get
them all the time in middleschool.
I was like, so what's changed?
I don't know, you've beentaught yes, you do know your
societal, your society, yourbeliefs.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
You're right look at your notepad.
You know the answer.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You wrote it down right there you're, you're
taught that, that this stuff isnot real, but there's.
You know, in every conspiracytheory, in everything there is
some kind of truth, and yourgovernment now is trying to tell
you there's truth in all this.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's why they released these documents.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And there's some kind of truth in everything.
And so the the question is isare you going to allow yourself
to be relaxed within it andbring those old talents back?
Because you just admitted to methat you had a dream about
something that was going tohappen.
It happened, and when it didhappen, you're like, oh, this is
deja vu, and so you have atalent right there that we're
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talking about in this.
And so when you believe whatyou've been taught, it hinders
those natural abilities, thosenatural instincts and getting up
in the morning and beingpositive.
You natural instincts andgetting up in the morning and
being positive.
You are hindered by societybecause somebody taught you that
you can't be positive becauseyou have some random chemical
imbalance in your body.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And tell me what blood tests they run?
for that and the unfortunatething is how the whole mechanism
works is the belief that youhave a chemical imbalance which
prevents you from having theseabilities actually will
inadvertently create a chemicalimbalance and it will put you in
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a almost loop-like existencewhere you're just kind of like
dog chasing tail round and rounduntil you become aware of it
and decide that enough is enough.
I am gonna.
I've learned what I want tolearn from that.
I'm done with that and eitherrelease or reprogram that belief
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and allow yourself to be anevolved individual and have a
different experience.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Right, you know I went into that process of so
tell me when you got diagnosedwith this chemical imbalance
imbalance.
And I said if you're willing toshare it in front of everybody?
And she's like, yeah, um, shesaid I was in high school.
I said, okay, so how did he?
How did this doctor diagnoseyou with a chemical imbalance?
And she said, well, he just.
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He said well, uh, you have achemical imbalance and we're
going to, we're going to giveyou this medicine that'll help
your body balance out.
I said so, um, how did he knowyou have a chemical imbalance?
Did he do a blood test on you?
Did he what?
How did he?
And what are your normalbalances?
What is your chemical imbalance?
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I said do you ever think that?
Perhaps Did he have you standon one leg and if you fell over,
hop up and down?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
right, oh God, you're imbalanced.
Your chemicals are heavier onone side than the other.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
And he are heavier on one side than the other.
And she said so you're sayingmy doctor lied to me?
I'm like no, I'm not sayingyour doctor lied to you.
I'm just saying that yourdoctor is working based off the
education that he has and he'sinstructing you, which in none
of this stuff you've actuallydone your own research.
You haven't done any of theresearch on it, because there is
no way that somebody can lookat somebody and say oh, they
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have a chemical imbalance.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Well, there is a way, but most people don't practice
it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Well, yeah, I mean, but once again, that's another
talent you're about to bring up.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, exactly, I mean you did it with her.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
By utilizing some of your abilities, you know you can
look at people's energy, theiraura.
Of your abilities, you know youcan look at people's energy,
their aura.
I can feel certain parts of thephysical body.
I can smell certain diseaseprocesses like a damn dog, I
agree.
So there is ways to do it, andour ancestors, I mean what do
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you think they did when they gotsick?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Native Americans didn't.
They didn't have x-ray.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
No, they didn't have freaking CT scan or MRIs.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
They had to utilize those scales as a normal part of
their life.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
They had to be able to see a person's aura or feel
their energy or smell theirodors oh yeah, I know in this
the, the, as we continue on inthis conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
She said so you know, do you?
So your doctor is lying?
I mean, my doctor is lying tome.
I'm like no he's just workingon the education he's that he's
had and he's telling you thesethings.
So let me ask you this did themedicine make you feel better?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
no, it made me a zombie are you wanting to eat my
face off?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
right, I'm like she's like no, it just made me really
draggy and and then, and thenhe reduced it and he changed it
and went through this wholeprocess.
I'm like, so he's, he'sbasically throwing a ball up in
the air and swinging a bat at it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Swinging a miss.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And she says well, I guess.
I said so.
Is your medicine right now?
Is it everything?
Do you feel better?
And she said no.
And I said so.
You've been taking this stufffor 50 years and you don't feel
better.
Does that make any sense?
I said do you know what achemical imbalance is?
The definition of a chemicalimbalance?
No, I said I can tell you whatit is.
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It's a medical billing code sothey can get paid.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I mean, you've been dealing with this for how many
years?
And you've not even stopped tolook at the definition of the
diagnosis you were given.
Right, I said it's about money.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
This is about money for the masses, and what we're
getting into here is you'restifling yourself, because most
of the time when people havethose ADHD diagnoses and all
this stuff, it can besituational.
And I gave her an example ofwhen I started not feeling good
here a couple of years ago andthe doctor was word again about
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putting me on a blood pressuremedicine and it was completely
situational.
Yeah, and if I would have goton that medicine, my body would
have reacted and the sideeffects would have changed my
body structure and my makeup.
And here it is now I haveperfect blood pressure, right.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Do your own research Correct.
I think that's a key thing whenyou're talking about modern
medicine or herbal medicine isis it is okay.
you know, this is the one thingI preach to everybody it is okay
to be your own doctor yeah andwork in conjunction with modern
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medicine or herbal medicine, notlet that be the dictating
factor of just following itblindly.
You know, if they're going toput you on a medication, make
sure that your beliefs and yourenergy resonate with it and that
your body actually wants it.
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And be your own advocate andcheck in with and get to know
your body actually wants it.
And be your own advocate andcheck in with and get to know
your body, because if your bodydoesn't want it and you don't
accept it, you won't get anybenefit out of it.
It won't make you feel betterbecause the frequencies are
different.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Medication is just a frequency permission slip,
basically.
Anyways, you know that's right,feel good when you couldn't do
that without the Advil.
If you couldn't, then placeboswouldn't exist.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So we'll throw that in the mix of aha moments.
Yes, there's many, many studiesout there, if you care to
explore that, where theyactually had better effects from
the placebo than they did fromthe actual medication.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
And why is that?
Because people believe theycould get better.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
No, I'll tell you why .
Because whenever you introduce aplacebo and you have the
intentionality behind it that itis going to cure this thing and
it has no underlying definingfactor of what it is and what it
has to be in a confined box,then it has the freedom to
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become anything and anyfrequency that it needs to
become to make the patient feelbetter.
So a placebo has not been givenany intention, any defining
factor.
As a matter of fact, it it'sbeen given the.
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It's not the actual medicine,so let's put it in there and
let's see what the effects are.
That's a pretty open-endedstatement which gives the
placebo the ability to take onwhatever frequency.
So it goes into the body andthe body says, okay, well, for
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this particular element, we needsupport in this area, which may
just be additional healingenergy, or it may actually be a
mineral, an amino acid, avitamin, and it can actually
change the energetic structureof that placebo to be able to
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utilize it and support the bodyin that area, to boost it to the
level of being able to do itsjob in a more efficient and
effective way.
And that is the rabbit hole,ladies and gentlemen, of the
concept of placebo.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And it does follow.
Can I get an applause?
Well, oh, oh, excuse me.
Thank you, give applause whereapplause is due I know you're
supposed to ask for applause umof course you are, and this does
fall under this falls under theself-discovery stuff that we're
just talking about.
Is all this stuff we're talkingabout is the trap that we
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caught up in that stifens ourhuman experience.
Right, and I used that wordagain, didn't I?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, it's okay.
That's the word of the day.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
No, the word of the day is bad, but it is becoming
very vapid, vapid.
Yeah, it is becoming very vapid.
Is it vapid or vapid?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
It's vapid.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Vapid.
What a vapid conversation.
Anyway, the so in thecontinuing this conversation
with her, um, you know we werekind of talking about
self-discovery and I said andyou've the way it makes you feel
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Because if you read the sideeffects on 99% of the steps
you're being given, it'sactually can imitate the actual
symptoms they're trying to treat.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, that's what I'm .
That's what I'm uh, mean by.
You know, when we give amedication, somebody, somewhere,
has already decided what themedicine's going to do.
That intention, that energeticfrequency of intention, has
already been set in this pill,for example, and they've already
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decided what the reactions orpossible reactions from people
is going to be.
So that's already set in placeand pre-recorded, if you will,
inside of this pill.
So when you see the commercialor you get the packet of
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information on this medication,from your doctor who you have
put on a very high pedestal.
He is the all-knowing Wizard ofOz.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Because they have that DR in front of their name,
they know everything.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Right, the Wizard of Oz of my life, my medical
journey, that I'm just going toblindly listen to whatever he
says.
Unfortunately, what that doesis that it opens up your belief
system mechanism to take onwhatever belief he has about the
medication or the collectivehas acquired about the
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medication.
So you're taking on a beliefthat's not even yours.
That's correct which is heavybaggage Anything that is not
yours, that you adopt fromsomeplace else, someone else,
becomes very heavy baggage, andso you basically have adopted
his belief, which is aculmination of other patients.
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Whoever they studied, tenmillion patients had this
symptom.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You're carrying ten million pieces of luggage when
you take on that belief.
Yeah, and that is heavy shitwhen you take on that belief.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
And that is heavy shit.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
So no wonder you're tired, yeah, no wonder you're
exhausted.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
You're carrying around a lot of other people's
baggage.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
You know, I had a very wise person tell me one
time and this kind of changed myperspective.
I always, for many years,doubted a lot of this stuff that
we've been told and I had avery good—.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
What stuff just to clarify the spiritual stuff or
the medical?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
stuff, all of it.
The societal type believes thatpeople can have intuition, the
medical stuff that doctors knowall, because it always amazed me
by the way that a doctor comesin and sees you and diagnoses
you right there just sitting ata table by listening to your
breathing and your heart.
Never once do they pick up abook because they remember
everything.
I guess you know there's likewhat is there 79 million medical
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encyclopedias and they rememberall of it yeah, it's a class.
It's called memory 101 no, neveronce have I ever had a doctor
go.
Hang on, you know, let me go,let me go.
Uh, memory 101.
No-transcript.
They always say oh no, you havesyphaginohepiates, because
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these are your symptoms and Iknow you have it.
So you're going to take thesefour pills three times a day and
then on the fifth day, you'regoing to take these six pills.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Guadalampahampa.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, you're going to take this pill called
Guadalampahampa.
They have never once go out andsay let me go look at this for
a minute Cause I'm not quitesure, and be you know.
Instead they, they just pop itright off.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Right, I mean you know we would love to get to a
place of um.
You know co creation.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, co-discovery yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
You bring your knowledge to the table.
I'll bring my knowledge to thetable and together let's figure
out which is.
You know I'm going to plugmyself at this point, which is
what I do.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I bring my knowledge from working with thousands and
thousands of clients andpatients in the medical field
and patients in the medicalfield that I retired from and my
Akashic record abilities.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I bring all of that knowledge to the table because I
work with those skills andabilities on a daily basis, on a
daily basis, many times a day.
But I don't bring you into theoffice and say the Wizard of Oz
has spoken, this is what's wrongwith you I.
I come into that as aco-creator and I expect the
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client to participate.
You're the one that's livedwith your body, for you know 10,
15, 20, 50, 80 years.
You know your body better thanI do.
You know what works for youbetter than I do.
You just may not be aware of it.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
So I bring about the awareness, along with any of the
knowledges, experiences that Ihave to share, and then I leave
it up to them to pick and choose, kind of on a cart.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
What?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
resonates with them and their frequency and give
them permission basically to goout and try this regimen of abc
123 or this regimen of, you know, xyz 45, 55, 27, right, 45, 55,
(35:44):
27, right.
That took a lot of that, took alot of that, took a lot out of
me Exertion.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, yeah, I could tell.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
It almost looked like you were pooping when you said
it.
Maybe I just had gas.
I did eat beans and rice forsupper.
Anyway, you get the concept ofwhat I'm trying to say.
And we work together to figureout things that you can go out
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and explore and try that bringabout a better feeling place.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
And it's all done through self-discovery.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Of course always.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And you know, to prove what you just said, you
know my son was born with eczema.
He had the infantile eczema orwhatever Eggs, and he had those
red spots all over him and theywould itch and he would scratch.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
And then I took him to the dermatologist, pediatric
dermatologist, and they put himon this cream.
Well, the cream burned.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, of course it does.
He didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
And so one day after school I was like you know, I am
not going to put this cream onhim anymore because he screams
every time I put it on.
Obviously his body does notlike it, Right.
And so I went down to DollarGeneral and I bought a pack of
Smarties.
And I bought a pack of Smartiesand I took the Smarties out of
the package and I got one of hisold prescription bottles and I
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dumped those out and got rid ofthem and I put the Smarties in
this prescription bottle and hewould come home from school and
I'd say, well, how are you doingtoday?
And he'd be like, Daddy, I'mnot itching today, or Daddy, I
am itching today, because that'swhat it was.
It wasn't so much that theeczema bothered him, but he
would itch and they would getinfected.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Right Itch and then the skin would break open and
then that would get.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
And you know, little boys, they don't, they don't
bathe like they should and dirty, and so, and I told him this
one day I he came home and he'slike, daddy, I'm itching today.
I'm like, oh great, because Iwent to your doctor today and he
gave me this new medicine and,uh, and I don't know that he had
ever ate smarties.
But all I know is I took one ofmy other bottle and I gave him
(37:54):
a little cup of water in it andthen he, he took it down and I
said, well, let's just see howthis goes.
This is what the doctor saidthe newest thing on the market
and he said it down and I said,well, let's just see how this
goes.
This is what the doctor said,the newest thing on the market
and he said, well, that's kindof sweet, daddy.
I'm like, yeah, I know.
I said, I guess they make ittaste good for your kids.
So you know, and he was like,okay, and like two, three days
later he's coming back becauseevery day after school he
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started taking one.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Right, that tastes really good yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
So he would come to me right after school and he'd
be like Daddy time to take mymedicine, doctor says once a day
, and he would just swallow itwhole.
He didn't chew it, he justswallowed it whole and he was
like I said.
So how's it working for you?
It's great, it works good.
I don't itch at all.
I said know that that kid neveronce scratched again and his
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eczema went away and it was allon Smarties, because he believed
what I was telling him and whatthe doctor told him.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
And I told him later on in high school.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I mean, it's just a powerful example of how you can
give your body permission to dowhat it does naturally.
It's our thoughts and ourperceptions that get in the way
of the body's natural ability tomake things right.
(39:16):
So they kind of finished theconversation to bring it back or
less painful.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
For the self-discovery?
I told her.
I said she said so you expectme, right, so they kind of
finished the conversation tobring it back.
Or less painful For theself-discovery?
I told her.
I said she said so you expectme, or you're trying to teach me
that when I have a chemicalimbalance, that I can be
positive-minded and optimisticabout life every single day?
I said yep, you know why you'renot.
Though she said why?
I said because you don't thinkyou can.
You don't believe it.
You believe everything you'vebeen told and until you change
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that mindset, you'll continuedown the same rough track.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, one of the greats Carl Jung or one of them,
I don't remember.
I apologize for not giving youcredit where credit's due
(40:06):
Napoleon maybe did make thestatement and it's a very
profound combination of wordsinto a verbal statement of
whether you can or whether youcan't.
You are right, that's correct,and it's based on the premise
that whatever you think you cando, or whether you think you
can't do it, either way you'recorrect, because that's the
reality that you will create,because the mind is extremely
(40:28):
powerful, right, and so that'sone of the things that we try to
get across to people is, youknow, be aware of what you're
putting in, because it willdictate what you're getting out.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
That's correct.
Be open-minded.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
If you put garbage in , you're going to get garbage
out.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Even on this podcast.
You know you need to researcheverything we tell you and check
in with it, with yourself.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, just because I have that.
D-r in front of my name doesn'tmean that I am the foremost
authority on all of this.
We just share what works for us, giving you ideas and
suggestions to try for yourself,and if you try one and it
(41:14):
doesn't really give you whatyou're looking for, then throw
it in the garbage and trysomething else.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Right, you know take two concepts, blend them
together and make a new conceptthat works for you, and see if
it works for you because it mayfit in your belief system.
Like I, was watching this videoyesterday morning and this guy
just set the record for thehighest um free fall jump
without a parachute 34,000 feetand he did it with only a pair
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of boxers on Because he wantedto do that as well.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, I feel like that would be cold.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Oh yeah, I'm sure it was cold, but he jumped 34,000
feet in the air.
He literally threw hisparachute off.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Wait.
So he jumped from the ground upinto the air 34,000 feet.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
He jumped from an airplane and his whole plan was
when they get to 5,000 feet, himand his friend was going to
come together and he was goingto buckle into his friend's
parachute.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
They pull the parachute and land, and then he
has a smooth landing.
He has a smooth landing.
How did that work out?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
He jumped Actually.
He has a smooth landing.
He has a smooth landing.
How did that work out?
He jumped Actually.
He threw his parachute off.
There was two things Either Ahe was going to catch the
parachute and put it back on,okay, or B at 8,000 feet, he was
going to try to catch theparachute if he could, and then
if that didn't work at 5,000feet he was going to join his
friend that jumped with him andbuckle into his double parachute
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thing with him and land thatway.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I guess they did the mathematical equation to see how
much the things weigh and howfast they're going to fall
through the air, and did they dothe math on that?
Oh?
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Doctors, you're embarrassing yourself right now
I am yes it's called terminalvelocity well, that's not
embarrassing.
I was just everything falls atthe same rate, unless unless
manipulated really yes I'm notgonna really believe you on that
.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I'm gonna do my own research, okay, okay do that
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
So at 8,000 feet he tries to dive.
You see in the video he triesto dive to get to his parachute
and he goes to put it on throughhis first loop and he bumps it
with his elbow and it shoots offthat way.
Oh my gosh.
And so you see it going off inthe distance in this like
circle-y spiral thing.
And then finally he looks forhis buddy and his buddy dives
(43:44):
down to him and he's trying toget linked to where his buddy
can come this way and then theycan ride side by side and he can
get in.
So he's trying to put his armin and then his buddy grabs him
around his waist.
But when they do that itaffects the fall, Because when
you're skydiving when you'retight.
Tight it makes you go faster yes, and so it would make him speed
up and slow down.
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Speed up, slow down, so hewould.
He kept trying to do it.
Well, they get through 1800feet and they're still not, and
he's still not attached, oh mygosh, and so they come up, I
guess, with a plan, because Iguess he had a headset on and I
guess they were communicatingokay and all of a sudden you see
them both raise their head andbring their arms up at the same
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time, and so it made them dothis.
And then the guy reaches aroundhim and puts his belt on around
him, so it pulls him to him.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Oh, kind of like a scorpion maneuver or something,
yeah, kind of like this for themboth to slow down to the same
speed.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
And then he put his arms in and they pulled the
chute and he landed safely,luckily, because you know you
get below a thousand feet andyou could die Even with the
parachute on.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
You're scrambled to expand.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Yeah, but he made it.
And at the end of it he saidthe lady because the news was
there watching it, it was a bigdeal.
He's going to speak of worldrecords or whatever I guess
Guinness Book of World Recordsor whatever and the lady from
the news asked him how couldanybody in their right mind jump
from an airplane without aparachute and not have a heart
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attack midair?
And what would make you want todo that?
He said because somebody toldme I couldn't and I wanted to
make sure that I could, becauseI knew in my mind I could.
And he's done it twice sincethen.
Again, yeah, and he's workingon twice since then again yeah.
And he's working on going to goup even higher.
But anyway, what I thoughtabout it for me was there's a
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guy that doesn't listen tonothing, and when he believes
something, that's how strongthose beliefs are.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
I mean because he's flying at what?
210.
Why do you not even know whatterminal velocity is like 210
miles an hour towards the ground?
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
At a at the ground, with only boxers on Right With
the.
There's so many parametersinvolved in this.
You know his friend's got to beperfect.
You know everything's got towork out perfectly.
Yeah, friend's got to beperfect.
You know, everything's got towork out perfectly, yeah, and he
just believed he could.
And it didn't work outperfectly because in his own
mind he said, at 5 000 feet I'mgoing to be hooked up and I'm
landing right or at 8 000 feet.
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I've got my own shoot on yeahand uh.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
But he said, you know , somebody said I couldn't, and
so I did it yeah, I mean thatthat is a definitely beautiful
way to go about it is do theresearch.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Which that's kind of an extreme example.
It is an extreme case, but it'sa good example, but he's had to
jump like 3,000 or 4,000 times.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
You don't have to go quite that extreme, but it's a
perfect example to kind of drillhome the concept that we're
trying to deliver, which is, youknow, do your own freaking
research.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
He's kind of a goofy guy because they asked him what
did you do to prepare for thisjob and he said slept.
It was funny, man.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
I slept and ate potato chips, you know.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
I had an energy drink this morning.
I took about a four hour napand then I jumped.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Don't overthink it, man Just do it.
Just well, no.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Collect your own.
Before you take a belief on anddecide that you're going to
encompass yourself with thebelief, make sure it's something
that you want to take on.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Oh, and everything Self-discover everything.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Every single thing.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
You know, do your own beliefs.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Do your own research, you know.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Open your mind to doing things differently.
Open your mind to having thatmindset of you.
Know what this world is mine,Not anybody else's and I'm going
to experience it for what Iexperienced it, for not what
everybody else did and wrote ina book or somewhere.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Right and how I want to experience it, not a oh.
Woe is me.
I'm trapped in this experienceand can't do anything about it,
so I'm going to just stay closedminded because I can't do
anything anyways.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Very vapid.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Vapid, that's a vapid response.
I feel pretty good Open up andexplore.
Explore the world, live life,get to know yourself.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Decide what beliefs you want to carry around,
because when you start releasingthose beliefs that are not
yours, you will feel so muchlighter and so much more
energetic and and so much better.
Yeah, I agree, so much freer.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Not beat down and bogged down with a bunch of dumb
ass beliefs.
They're not even yours, Rightthat's that's very heavy, yours
Right that's, that's very heavy.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
So yeah, give yourself the opportunity to
explore what is exciting, whatis fun, what is going to be your
next adventure that you go on?
Speaker 1 (48:55):
I was watching Mike Moss this morning.
He's a professional gamblerthat's won so much money from
the casinos he's banned from,like every casino in the world.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Instead of Frank Fungus.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
What?
I didn't get your joke there.
I know you're tickled.
You said Mike Moss.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
And I said, instead of Fred Fungus, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
And he said this morning, when somebody asked him
when he was in an interviewbecause he's got a podcast and
he was being interviewed, andthe guy asked him what made you
think you'd go in the casino andwin that much money, he said I
didn't believe that the housealways wins.
I said I believe that the housealways manipulates the
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opportunity for them to win.
And so if I could figure out away to manipulate my reality?
I said I believe that the housealways manipulates the
opportunity for them to win.
And so if I could figure out away to manipulate my reality to
where my effectiveness of myreality is in my best interest
(50:01):
and not theirs then I win, andhe won like $700 million from
the casinos.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, he started with 800.
Yeah, you know you said somepretty profound things right
there.
I want to touch on real brieflyOkay.
He said, I wanted to make surethat it was in my best interest
and the effectiveness wasaligned with what is good for me
right and if we do that on aregular basis instead of stop
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trying to do that for others andwe do it for ourself.
Is this an alignment with thebest interest of me?
Then that will begin torecreate a reality that keeps
you in alignment, unless youbegin to see a pattern where it
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doesn't quite work out to be asmooth, calm kind of ride,
funkiness kind of pops up, calmkind of ride, funkiness kind of
pops up.
You'll want to look at whetheror not you have defined yourself
as being worthy and deservingof having that kind of
experience.
Right, because that belief ofnot having self-deserving or
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self-worthiness will kind ofmuck that up.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
He said that the guy asked him well, you know all the
games that the casinos put out,you know they have researched
them and they know that theyhave an advantage to the house
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blahblah.
And he said I don't believethat.
I said I believe theymanipulate themselves.
He said it doesn't make anysense to me when you put a six
deck blackjack game out in frontof me and the cards are all
there.
They cannot be manipulated.
After that point right.
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And they don't know what I'mgoing to do, they don't know if
I'm going to hit stay.
I can go completely against thewhole realm of what anybody
thinks, if I want to, right, andso you can't tell me that.
Nor do I believe for one minutethat every game that the casino
puts out is based to wherethey're going to win.
Do they win?
Yes, but I win too, yeah.
(52:01):
And so he.
And so the guy was like what doyou mean?
I said.
He said once those cards are inthat shoe, they can't change
them because you can see them.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah, because they would get in trouble if they did
.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Well, I mean, they all manipulate the things they
do.
It's part of the game.
But that's what he said is.
It's a game they aremanipulating to win.
It's like I'm trying tomanipulate to win and all it is
is do you believe that you canmanipulate better than them?
Right, and if you don't believeit, then don't sit down at
those tables.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Because you will give your money to them.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Unless you don't really want to win.
Yeah, that could be it too Imean unless you have some money,
that your money guy says listen, you got to get rid of some
money or your taxes are going tobe wonky and you're looking for
a place to donate it.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Well, you can't write that off on your taxes, but
anyway, I feel pretty complete.
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (52:54):
I feel great.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
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Welcome back to the spiritual grind.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Grinding it out, baby , grinding it out Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Good morning everybody.
Hope you're having an awesomeday and we appreciate you tuning
in and listening.
We have a great topic today.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Tune in and turn on.
Tune in Wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Oh, that's not it.
I was going to say touch me,turn me on and burn me down.
That's the wrong thing.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I think your tuner is off.
That a dwight yocum song yourauto tuner's off just a little
bit well, okay, I've got a goodtopic for today do tell it's
gonna be a fun one, I think it'sgonna be a fun one in light of
our recent events.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I have discovered that my beautiful, lovely wife
has a new talent.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It's not a new talent really, it's just not one I've
shared.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Well, it's a discovered talent that you found
.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Not really.
I can remember as a small childwriting things.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
And my teachers being always quite pleased.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Great.
So, but the topic of the day isare we allowing ourselves to
discover the talents that wehave?
Are we stuck in a rut?
We do have more talents.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Stuck in a rut.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And you know, because we have a Move your butt.
We're so habitual people thatwe have a tendency to get stuck
in the same thing, doing thesame things, and not discovering
what our inner talents are.
We, you know, if we don't trythings, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I would agree with that a hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And for me it's really eye opening.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Do tell.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Well, you know well, I've started writing this book
and you discovered the app towrite the book on yes, writing I
.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's quite enjoyable.
I have had immense fun with itover the last couple of days.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, as I am exploring that new enjoyment, I
mean it's so, for it's kind ofeye-opening, because I too have
always been that guy that couldwrite pretty elaborate stories
and be what do you say?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I was looking to see if there was a Kleenex in that
box, because before we started,remember, I said my nose is
stuffy and your cat took themall out and used them all.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
It's empty Because the cat was playing Whoa whoa,
whoa, for sure, okay.
But the new discovery part ofit.
It's so eye-opening for mebecause it's allowing me to say,
hmm, what else am I good atthat?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Because I've always been able to write stories and I
was always really good at beingvery detailed.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And my description is back in the day and I quit
exercising that.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I feel like I do it, and I sometimes will overdo it.
I've got to the point where,even when I'm speaking, I'll ask
the person when they ask myquestion do you want to know how
to build the clock, or you justwant to know what time it is?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
yeah, you are definitely an oversharer
sometimes I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I don't want to leave any details out.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It's like sometimes you, you will uh, oh no,
sometimes you will uh you gottaput money in the uh phone, not
off jar I heard yours go off tooin the background.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It's not even in here you still.
It still went off in the phone,not off jar.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I heard yours go off too, in the background.
It's not even in here, youstill.
It still went off.
The part of it that really thismorning for me was kind of
really just a cool moment is.
It put me into a thought of man, what have I missed out on?
You know, I've always been agreat artist.
I can draw quite well, I cansculpt, I can do a lot of
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different things.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I would agree with that 100%.
You are very talented.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
And I've always thought about writing a book.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And I get told at least once a week you should
write a book.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, yeah, you've been talking about how you're
doing some research and gettingready, and getting ready and
getting ready for this book.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And the crazy part about it is, you know, I
actually thought about writing achildren's book and I was like,
because that was the mosttraumatic part of my life, was
my childhood, because that wasthe most traumatic part of my
life was my childhood beingraised with parents that muggle
parents Muggle.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
What's that mean?
Yeah, so on Harry Potter, ifyou have no magical talents,
you're called a muggle, and sowhen your parents don't really
identify, everybody has theseair quote special gifts, like
intuition, you know, being ableto channel.
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Everybody has the opportunityto embrace any one of the things
that we have the ability to doand have developed those skills.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It's whether they choose to work with them or not.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
And so for you on your path.
Your parents did not choose toopen up to that side of the
world.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Or did I mean?
They didn't choose to open upto anything, they were just
repetitive.
And I'm not, I'm not on here tobash my parents.
They did the best they couldwithout the head.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
No but it can.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
All I was saying not in a bashing way.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I was just saying as a child who is open to the
special gifts or these abilitiesPinch poke, pinch poke.
It can be a bit of a challengeas a child.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Figuring out on your own what the hell it is, and
then how to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well, and then being stifled a lot by everybody.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It wasn't just my parents, it was everybody that
stifled you, except for mygrandfather Right because in our
age time frame that we were in,which was the early 70s, when
we were born, the whole conceptof awakening and higher self and
all of that that we live in nowwas still very hidden and not
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well understood and not wellaccepted at all.
Correct If you were a child whohad the ability to know that
the phone was going to ringbefore it rang and you revealed
that to the adults, they wantedto put you in the cuckoo house.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, I know, I agree , I had many things that used to
come to mind and I would saysomething and they I mean, it's
almost like the beauty is beingbad.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Right the bad.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Why do you have thoughts like that?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Right, why don't you weirdo?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You know, and so you get to where you suppress
yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Why am I the anomaly?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And so I used to go hide in the closet and practice
my stuff I did.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Harry Potter under the stairs.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
You'd hear the footsteps going through the
house, with them looking for meand yelling at me, and I'd be in
the closet practicing my stuff.
But the cool part about it is,this morning what came to mind
is all the things that over theyears, I have been taught to
stifle and to hold back and tonot be who I am, and and it was
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very freeing this morning tostart doing that- Nice.
And so you know, my question toour listeners are are you giving
yourself time to self discover,to discover what it is that you
may want to have fun doing?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Or even permission.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, give yourself the permission.
You know we always talk aboutpermission slips, but giving
yourself the permission to besomething different that you are
, that you've always wanted todo or be, yeah, and try it.
What's it going to hurt?
Right, and removing the fears,the negative beliefs that have
been taught to you.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Or what are they going to think about me if I?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
do that.
Yeah, get them out of the way.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Junk that crap in the trash.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
You know, and the bad part about it is the world and
society stifled this of allthese children and all these
people that have theseintuitions and gifts until
probably here, about 10 or 12years ago, when it became a
intellectual curiosity forpeople and then they started
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allowing things on tv, you know,I mean like the long, I mean
long island medium, and thecrazy part about it is is the
government's been studying itfor years, for 50 years, right
right on yeah, 70 years nowactually, because they started
in 1951.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
They actually.
I believe the newest date wasin the 20s.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
In the 20s.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, the latest document that I read that has
been what do you call it whenthe government shares something
Declassified?
Declassified, yeah, showedevidence that they've actually
been studying it as far back asthe 20s.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Some of the concepts you know, like remote viewing
and whatever.
Yeah, a lot of the indigenouspeople of the United States have
been practicing remote viewingfor many years.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And intuition, and they practice their power of
energy, you know, but they do itin their own way and, like the
medicine men and the chiefswould get visions and they would
share those and that's how theywould literally guide their
tribe.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, I mean those cultures for their entire
existence.
That's what they did, that'show they maneuvered life and as
a species, we definitely cameaway from that, that's what they
did.
That's how they maneuvered lifeand as a species we definitely
came away from that.
And now we're coming fullcircle, back to the fact of
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becoming more self-aware, ofattuning to that way of life
again, right.
Attuning to that way of life,again right.
We kind of went uh unconsciousfor a little while and stopped
practicing what our ancestorspracticed on a regular basis as
a normal routine, correct?
You know, understanding yourown energy, understanding your
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own, what we are now callingunique gifts or special talents.
Those were the norm back then Iagree because they didn't have
tv to distract them.
They didn't have cell phones.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
They didn't have land newspapers, social media news.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
They didn't have all the electronic distractions and
even though it's great andwonderful to evolve and see that
evolution, it's exciting whatit did, unfortunately, is it
took us away from what ourancestors were living as a
normal life and put us kind ofin an unawakened state again
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temporarily.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You know the kind of touch on that a little bit is.
You know, we have religions andwe have all these things that
practice and society teaches us.
You know that God created manand all this other stuff.
You know, I don't necessarilyfall into the to the belief that
this God came out of the skyand waved his hand and created
the human race.
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I think you know that we werecreated.
Yes, do I think that there's ahigher power up there?
Yes, but is it a godlikesubstance?
Is it a extraterrestrial?
What is this?
And we have been taught overthe years to stifle that because
it's the unknown.
And we stifle our intuition andour abilities that we've been
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given because we don't know whatwe're a hybrid of or what we
could be a part of.
And when we stifle, when westifle our natural abilities, it
weakens us.
And so, over throughout theyears, as we grow and we expand,
we are still trying to.
What are you doing?
Or still trying to?
What are you doing?
(13:04):
I'm sorry, I'm stuck on thestifling stifle, siphoning, what
Did I say it wrong?
Stifling, I don't think is aword.
Yeah, it is a word.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Stifling.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yes, stifled.
Okay, and what's wrong with theJamesism?
We use Jenny-ism all the timeand so, you know, throughout the
years we go through all thisand we hold ourselves back and
that weakens that ability.
And then, when you rediscoverit, you're like oh, and now
you've got to redevelop it againto bring it back to its time.
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And it's a very fun journey.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, and you're right.
Listen, I mean, you get off thestipend thing.
I'm off of it.
I just wanted to chuckle.
You're completely right.
If you don't use it it willkind of go dormant If you don't
practice it.
Some of them you know, like themediumship and your intuition.
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If you ignore it, then it kindof just lays in the background
quiet, or your ability to havevisions or, um, you know, even
being able to move stuff withyour mind or tap in and connect
with each other and be able toread each other's mind or the,
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the frequency of that thought.
You got to practice thosethings and make them a part of
your daily life in order to keepthem moving and fresh and and
practiced.
Otherwise they do get kind ofdormant and rusty Right.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
You know, as we grow and we evolve and we do things
as humans it's great to do andit's great to be um to expand
our horizons in our and you knowgive back to the collective
consciousness as we learn whatwe have to keep in contact with
our true, natural selves.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, I mean, if you want a reality that seems like
it is in flow all the time andfeels good and is, you know,
full of serendipitousexperiences and full of
excitement and elation, and justfeel good, calm, less chaos,
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then you have to try and keepyour frequency as close to your
normal natural frequency aspossible.
And how do you do that?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Right, well, that's staying in contact with it.
You have to practice it, youhave to allow it to be there.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Right by, just inch, by inch, doing that next thing
that is the most enjoyable,without expectation of what it
has to look like, and that helpsyou find that frequency again
and again and again, which is mydefinition of practice.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So here's a, and you have to do this and allow
yourself to do the things thatfeel natural and have fun, no
matter what anybody says, likethe other day in my class.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
And no matter how they feel.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
How they feel about it.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Sometimes, when you do something, what will pop up
is the awkwardness, and then yougive it a definition of oh my
God, that was so childish.
Why did I do that?
Yeah, it was awkward anduncomfortable and childish.
I'm never doing that again.
And that comes from, you know,unfortunately our parental
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figures saying stop beingchildish.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Well, that's society too.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Right, and so giving yourself the freedom to be
childish.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Play with fairies, play with imaginary friends,
color.
I color every day.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So, like you know what's funny about this, you do?
You actually own your iPad, Ido.
The other day, in my energyclass, when we were talking
about staying optimistic andpositive, and and I said
something, and one of the peoplein my class looked at me and
said how do you?
How did you know what I wasthinking, or whatever?
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And I said, well, that's just aguided thought, you know.
And it's just a guided thoughtthat I translated to you and she
was like what?
And I said well, you know whatyou're doing is you're sitting
there thinking about because I'mreading too and so I'm getting
the little visuals in my head.
I said you're sitting therethinking about how you're.
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You believe that your doctordiagnosed you with a chemical
imbalance and so being positiveis impossible.
And and then I walked over toher and I said do you believe?
With that she and she, sheshowed me her pad and she had
actually written almost thatword for word, verbatim yeah and
I said that's just a guidedthought.
So you expect me to believe thatpeople are given information
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that that communicate to me?
I said, yes, oh, that's just aguided thought.
So you expect me to believethat people are giving
information that communicate tome?
I said, yes, oh, that's hogwash.
I was like, okay, have you everhad deja vu?
Well, yeah, doesn't everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Well, you can wash your hog if you want to.
You want me to get you somesoap.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
And she says, well, doesn't everybody?
I said, yeah, so what is dejavu?
Oh, um, it's where I I haddreamed about something and then
I lived it.
I rest my case.
And she was like what I said?
What?
What?
Are you a time traveler, areyou, or do you?
Do you get visions of what'sgoing to happen in the future?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
oh, I love those oh moments when you're teaching
someone a concept and you getthat light bulb.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Oh, I said do you remember getting deja vu moments
a lot more when you wereyounger?
And she says yeah, I rememberin high school I used to get
them all the time in middleschool.
I was like, so what's changed?
I don't know, you've beentaught yes, you do know your
societal, your society, yourbeliefs.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
You're right look at your notepad.
You know the answer.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You wrote it down right there you're, you're
taught that, that this stuff isnot real, but there's.
You know, in every conspiracytheory, in everything there is
some kind of truth, and yourgovernment now is trying to tell
you there's truth in all this.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's why they released these documents.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And there's some kind of truth in everything.
And so the the question is isare you going to allow yourself
to be relaxed within it andbring those old talents back?
Because you just admitted to methat you had a dream about
something that was going tohappen.
It happened, and when it didhappen, you're like, oh, this is
deja vu, and so you have atalent right there that we're
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talking about in this.
And so when you believe whatyou've been taught, it hinders
those natural abilities, thosenatural instincts and getting up
in the morning and beingpositive.
You natural instincts andgetting up in the morning and
being positive.
You are hindered by societybecause somebody taught you that
you can't be positive becauseyou have some random chemical
imbalance in your body.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And tell me what blood tests they run?
for that and the unfortunatething is how the whole mechanism
works is the belief that youhave a chemical imbalance which
prevents you from having theseabilities actually will
inadvertently create a chemicalimbalance and it will put you in
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a almost loop-like existencewhere you're just kind of like
dog chasing tail round and rounduntil you become aware of it
and decide that enough is enough.
I am gonna.
I've learned what I want tolearn from that.
I'm done with that and eitherrelease or reprogram that belief
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and allow yourself to be anevolved individual and have a
different experience.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Right, you know I went into that process of so
tell me when you got diagnosedwith this chemical imbalance
imbalance.
And I said if you're willing toshare it in front of everybody?
And she's like, yeah, um, shesaid I was in high school.
I said, okay, so how did he?
How did this doctor diagnoseyou with a chemical imbalance?
And she said, well, he just.
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He said well, uh, you have achemical imbalance and we're
going to, we're going to giveyou this medicine that'll help
your body balance out.
I said so, um, how did he knowyou have a chemical imbalance?
Did he do a blood test on you?
Did he what?
How did he?
And what are your normalbalances?
What is your chemical imbalance?
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I said do you ever think that?
Perhaps Did he have you standon one leg and if you fell over,
hop up and down?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
right, oh God, you're imbalanced.
Your chemicals are heavier onone side than the other.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
And he are heavier on one side than the other.
And she said so you're sayingmy doctor lied to me?
I'm like no, I'm not sayingyour doctor lied to you.
I'm just saying that yourdoctor is working based off the
education that he has and he'sinstructing you, which in none
of this stuff you've actuallydone your own research.
You haven't done any of theresearch on it, because there is
no way that somebody can lookat somebody and say oh, they
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have a chemical imbalance.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Well, there is a way, but most people don't practice
it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Well, yeah, I mean, but once again, that's another
talent you're about to bring up.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, exactly, I mean you did it with her.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
By utilizing some of your abilities, you know you can
look at people's energy, theiraura.
Of your abilities, you know youcan look at people's energy,
their aura.
I can feel certain parts of thephysical body.
I can smell certain diseaseprocesses like a damn dog, I
agree.
So there is ways to do it, andour ancestors, I mean what do
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you think they did when they gotsick?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Native Americans didn't.
They didn't have x-ray.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
No, they didn't have freaking CT scan or MRIs.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
They had to utilize those scales as a normal part of
their life.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
They had to be able to see a person's aura or feel
their energy or smell theirodors oh yeah, I know in this
the, the, as we continue on inthis conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
She said so you know, do you?
So your doctor is lying?
I mean, my doctor is lying tome.
I'm like no he's just workingon the education he's that he's
had and he's telling you thesethings.
So let me ask you this did themedicine make you feel better?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
no, it made me a zombie are you wanting to eat my
face off?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
right, I'm like she's like no, it just made me really
draggy and and then, and thenhe reduced it and he changed it
and went through this wholeprocess.
I'm like, so he's, he'sbasically throwing a ball up in
the air and swinging a bat at it.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Swinging a miss.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And she says well, I guess.
I said so.
Is your medicine right now?
Is it everything?
Do you feel better?
And she said no.
And I said so.
You've been taking this stufffor 50 years and you don't feel
better.
Does that make any sense?
I said do you know what achemical imbalance is?
The definition of a chemicalimbalance?
No, I said I can tell you whatit is.
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It's a medical billing code sothey can get paid.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I mean, you've been dealing with this for how many
years?
And you've not even stopped tolook at the definition of the
diagnosis you were given.
Right, I said it's about money.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
This is about money for the masses, and what we're
getting into here is you'restifling yourself, because most
of the time when people havethose ADHD diagnoses and all
this stuff, it can besituational.
And I gave her an example ofwhen I started not feeling good
here a couple of years ago andthe doctor was word again about
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putting me on a blood pressuremedicine and it was completely
situational.
Yeah, and if I would have goton that medicine, my body would
have reacted and the sideeffects would have changed my
body structure and my makeup.
And here it is now I haveperfect blood pressure, right.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Do your own research Correct.
I think that's a key thing whenyou're talking about modern
medicine or herbal medicine isis it is okay.
you know, this is the one thingI preach to everybody it is okay
to be your own doctor yeah andwork in conjunction with modern
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medicine or herbal medicine, notlet that be the dictating
factor of just following itblindly.
You know, if they're going toput you on a medication, make
sure that your beliefs and yourenergy resonate with it and that
your body actually wants it.
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And be your own advocate andcheck in with and get to know
your body actually wants it.
And be your own advocate andcheck in with and get to know
your body, because if your bodydoesn't want it and you don't
accept it, you won't get anybenefit out of it.
It won't make you feel betterbecause the frequencies are
different.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Medication is just a frequency permission slip,
basically.
Anyways, you know that's right,feel good when you couldn't do
that without the Advil.
If you couldn't, then placeboswouldn't exist.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So we'll throw that in the mix of aha moments.
Yes, there's many, many studiesout there, if you care to
explore that, where theyactually had better effects from
the placebo than they did fromthe actual medication.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
And why is that?
Because people believe theycould get better.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
No, I'll tell you why .
Because whenever you introduce aplacebo and you have the
intentionality behind it that itis going to cure this thing and
it has no underlying definingfactor of what it is and what it
has to be in a confined box,then it has the freedom to
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become anything and anyfrequency that it needs to
become to make the patient feelbetter.
So a placebo has not been givenany intention, any defining
factor.
As a matter of fact, it it'sbeen given the.
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It's not the actual medicine,so let's put it in there and
let's see what the effects are.
That's a pretty open-endedstatement which gives the
placebo the ability to take onwhatever frequency.
So it goes into the body andthe body says, okay, well, for
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this particular element, we needsupport in this area, which may
just be additional healingenergy, or it may actually be a
mineral, an amino acid, avitamin, and it can actually
change the energetic structureof that placebo to be able to
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utilize it and support the bodyin that area, to boost it to the
level of being able to do itsjob in a more efficient and
effective way.
And that is the rabbit hole,ladies and gentlemen, of the
concept of placebo.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And it does follow.
Can I get an applause?
Well, oh, oh, excuse me.
Thank you, give applause whereapplause is due I know you're
supposed to ask for applause umof course you are, and this does
fall under this falls under theself-discovery stuff that we're
just talking about.
Is all this stuff we're talkingabout is the trap that we
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caught up in that stifens ourhuman experience.
Right, and I used that wordagain, didn't I?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, it's okay.
That's the word of the day.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
No, the word of the day is bad, but it is becoming
very vapid, vapid.
Yeah, it is becoming very vapid.
Is it vapid or vapid?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
It's vapid.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Vapid.
What a vapid conversation.
Anyway, the so in thecontinuing this conversation
with her, um, you know we werekind of talking about
self-discovery and I said andyou've the way it makes you feel
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Because if you read the sideeffects on 99% of the steps
you're being given, it'sactually can imitate the actual
symptoms they're trying to treat.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yeah, that's what I'm .
That's what I'm uh, mean by.
You know, when we give amedication, somebody, somewhere,
has already decided what themedicine's going to do.
That intention, that energeticfrequency of intention, has
already been set in this pill,for example, and they've already
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decided what the reactions orpossible reactions from people
is going to be.
So that's already set in placeand pre-recorded, if you will,
inside of this pill.
So when you see the commercialor you get the packet of
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information on this medication,from your doctor who you have
put on a very high pedestal.
He is the all-knowing Wizard ofOz.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Because they have that DR in front of their name,
they know everything.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Right, the Wizard of Oz of my life, my medical
journey, that I'm just going toblindly listen to whatever he
says.
Unfortunately, what that doesis that it opens up your belief
system mechanism to take onwhatever belief he has about the
medication or the collectivehas acquired about the
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medication.
So you're taking on a beliefthat's not even yours.
That's correct which is heavybaggage Anything that is not
yours, that you adopt fromsomeplace else, someone else,
becomes very heavy baggage, andso you basically have adopted
his belief, which is aculmination of other patients.
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Whoever they studied, tenmillion patients had this
symptom.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You're carrying ten million pieces of luggage when
you take on that belief.
Yeah, and that is heavy shitwhen you take on that belief.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
And that is heavy shit.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
So no wonder you're tired, yeah, no wonder you're
exhausted.
Yes.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
You're carrying around a lot of other people's
baggage.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
You know, I had a very wise person tell me one
time and this kind of changed myperspective.
I always, for many years,doubted a lot of this stuff that
we've been told and I had avery good—.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
What stuff just to clarify the spiritual stuff or
the medical?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
stuff, all of it.
The societal type believes thatpeople can have intuition, the
medical stuff that doctors knowall, because it always amazed me
by the way that a doctor comesin and sees you and diagnoses
you right there just sitting ata table by listening to your
breathing and your heart.
Never once do they pick up abook because they remember
everything.
I guess you know there's likewhat is there 79 million medical
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encyclopedias and they rememberall of it yeah, it's a class.
It's called memory 101 no, neveronce have I ever had a doctor
go.
Hang on, you know, let me go,let me go.
Uh, memory 101.
No-transcript.
They always say oh no, you havesyphaginohepiates, because
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these are your symptoms and Iknow you have it.
So you're going to take thesefour pills three times a day and
then on the fifth day, you'regoing to take these six pills.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Guadalampahampa.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, you're going to take this pill called
Guadalampahampa.
They have never once go out andsay let me go look at this for
a minute Cause I'm not quitesure, and be you know.
Instead they, they just pop itright off.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Right, I mean you know we would love to get to a
place of um.
You know co creation.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yeah, co-discovery yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
You bring your knowledge to the table.
I'll bring my knowledge to thetable and together let's figure
out which is.
You know I'm going to plugmyself at this point, which is
what I do.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I bring my knowledge from working with thousands and
thousands of clients andpatients in the medical field
and patients in the medicalfield that I retired from and my
Akashic record abilities.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
I bring all of that knowledge to the table because I
work with those skills andabilities on a daily basis, on a
daily basis, many times a day.
But I don't bring you into theoffice and say the Wizard of Oz
has spoken, this is what's wrongwith you I.
I come into that as aco-creator and I expect the
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client to participate.
You're the one that's livedwith your body, for you know 10,
15, 20, 50, 80 years.
You know your body better thanI do.
You know what works for youbetter than I do.
You just may not be aware of it.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
So I bring about the awareness, along with any of the
knowledges, experiences that Ihave to share, and then I leave
it up to them to pick and choose, kind of on a cart.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
What?
Speaker 2 (35:21):
resonates with them and their frequency and give
them permission basically to goout and try this regimen of abc
123 or this regimen of, you know, xyz 45, 55, 27, right, 45, 55,
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27, right.
That took a lot of that, took alot of that, took a lot out of
me Exertion.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, yeah, I could tell.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
It almost looked like you were pooping when you said
it.
Maybe I just had gas.
I did eat beans and rice forsupper.
Anyway, you get the concept ofwhat I'm trying to say.
And we work together to figureout things that you can go out
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and explore and try that bringabout a better feeling place.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
And it's all done through self-discovery.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Of course always.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And you know, to prove what you just said, you
know my son was born with eczema.
He had the infantile eczema orwhatever Eggs, and he had those
red spots all over him and theywould itch and he would scratch.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
And then I took him to the dermatologist, pediatric
dermatologist, and they put himon this cream.
Well, the cream burned.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, of course it does.
He didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
And so one day after school I was like you know, I am
not going to put this cream onhim anymore because he screams
every time I put it on.
Obviously his body does notlike it, Right.
And so I went down to DollarGeneral and I bought a pack of
Smarties.
And I bought a pack of Smartiesand I took the Smarties out of
the package and I got one of hisold prescription bottles and I
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dumped those out and got rid ofthem and I put the Smarties in
this prescription bottle and hewould come home from school and
I'd say, well, how are you doingtoday?
And he'd be like, Daddy, I'mnot itching today, or Daddy, I
am itching today, because that'swhat it was.
It wasn't so much that theeczema bothered him, but he
would itch and they would getinfected.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Right Itch and then the skin would break open and
then that would get.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
And you know, little boys, they don't, they don't
bathe like they should and dirty, and so, and I told him this
one day I he came home and he'slike, daddy, I'm itching today.
I'm like, oh great, because Iwent to your doctor today and he
gave me this new medicine and,uh, and I don't know that he had
ever ate smarties.
But all I know is I took one ofmy other bottle and I gave him
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a little cup of water in it andthen he, he took it down and I
said, well, let's just see howthis goes.
This is what the doctor saidthe newest thing on the market
and he said it down and I said,well, let's just see how this
goes.
This is what the doctor said,the newest thing on the market
and he said, well, that's kindof sweet, daddy.
I'm like, yeah, I know.
I said, I guess they make ittaste good for your kids.
So you know, and he was like,okay, and like two, three days
later he's coming back becauseevery day after school he
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started taking one.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Right, that tastes really good yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
So he would come to me right after school and he'd
be like Daddy time to take mymedicine, doctor says once a day
, and he would just swallow itwhole.
He didn't chew it, he justswallowed it whole and he was
like I said.
So how's it working for you?
It's great, it works good.
I don't itch at all.
I said know that that kid neveronce scratched again and his
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eczema went away and it was allon Smarties, because he believed
what I was telling him and whatthe doctor told him.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
And I told him later on in high school.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
I mean, it's just a powerful example of how you can
give your body permission to dowhat it does naturally.
It's our thoughts and ourperceptions that get in the way
of the body's natural ability tomake things right.
(39:16):
So they kind of finished theconversation to bring it back or
less painful.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
For the self-discovery?
I told her.
I said she said so you expectme, right, so they kind of
finished the conversation tobring it back.
Or less painful For theself-discovery?
I told her.
I said she said so you expectme, or you're trying to teach me
that when I have a chemicalimbalance, that I can be
positive-minded and optimisticabout life every single day?
I said yep, you know why you'renot.
Though she said why?
I said because you don't thinkyou can.
You don't believe it.
You believe everything you'vebeen told and until you change
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that mindset, you'll continuedown the same rough track.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, one of the greats Carl Jung or one of them,
I don't remember.
I apologize for not giving youcredit where credit's due
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Napoleon maybe did make thestatement and it's a very
profound combination of wordsinto a verbal statement of
whether you can or whether youcan't.
You are right, that's correct,and it's based on the premise
that whatever you think you cando, or whether you think you
can't do it, either way you'recorrect, because that's the
reality that you will create,because the mind is extremely
(40:28):
powerful, right, and so that'sone of the things that we try to
get across to people is, youknow, be aware of what you're
putting in, because it willdictate what you're getting out.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
That's correct.
Be open-minded.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
If you put garbage in , you're going to get garbage
out.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Even on this podcast.
You know you need to researcheverything we tell you and check
in with it, with yourself.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, just because I have that.
D-r in front of my name doesn'tmean that I am the foremost
authority on all of this.
We just share what works for us, giving you ideas and
suggestions to try for yourself,and if you try one and it
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doesn't really give you whatyou're looking for, then throw
it in the garbage and trysomething else.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Right, you know take two concepts, blend them
together and make a new conceptthat works for you, and see if
it works for you because it mayfit in your belief system.
Like I, was watching this videoyesterday morning and this guy
just set the record for thehighest um free fall jump
without a parachute 34,000 feetand he did it with only a pair
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of boxers on Because he wantedto do that as well.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, I feel like that would be cold.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Oh yeah, I'm sure it was cold, but he jumped 34,000
feet in the air.
He literally threw hisparachute off.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Wait.
So he jumped from the ground upinto the air 34,000 feet.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
He jumped from an airplane and his whole plan was
when they get to 5,000 feet, himand his friend was going to
come together and he was goingto buckle into his friend's
parachute.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
They pull the parachute and land, and then he
has a smooth landing.
He has a smooth landing.
How did that work out?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
He jumped Actually.
He has a smooth landing.
He has a smooth landing.
How did that work out?
He jumped Actually.
He threw his parachute off.
There was two things Either Ahe was going to catch the
parachute and put it back on,okay, or B at 8,000 feet, he was
going to try to catch theparachute if he could, and then
if that didn't work at 5,000feet he was going to join his
friend that jumped with him andbuckle into his double parachute
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thing with him and land thatway.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I guess they did the mathematical equation to see how
much the things weigh and howfast they're going to fall
through the air, and did they dothe math on that?
Oh?
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Doctors, you're embarrassing yourself right now
I am yes it's called terminalvelocity well, that's not
embarrassing.
I was just everything falls atthe same rate, unless unless
manipulated really yes I'm notgonna really believe you on that
.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
I'm gonna do my own research, okay, okay do that
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
So at 8,000 feet he tries to dive.
You see in the video he triesto dive to get to his parachute
and he goes to put it on throughhis first loop and he bumps it
with his elbow and it shoots offthat way.
Oh my gosh.
And so you see it going off inthe distance in this like
circle-y spiral thing.
And then finally he looks forhis buddy and his buddy dives
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down to him and he's trying toget linked to where his buddy
can come this way and then theycan ride side by side and he can
get in.
So he's trying to put his armin and then his buddy grabs him
around his waist.
But when they do that itaffects the fall, Because when
you're skydiving when you'retight.
Tight it makes you go faster yes, and so it would make him speed
up and slow down.
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Speed up, slow down, so hewould.
He kept trying to do it.
Well, they get through 1800feet and they're still not, and
he's still not attached, oh mygosh, and so they come up, I
guess, with a plan, because Iguess he had a headset on and I
guess they were communicatingokay and all of a sudden you see
them both raise their head andbring their arms up at the same
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time, and so it made them dothis.
And then the guy reaches aroundhim and puts his belt on around
him, so it pulls him to him.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Oh, kind of like a scorpion maneuver or something,
yeah, kind of like this for themboth to slow down to the same
speed.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
And then he put his arms in and they pulled the
chute and he landed safely,luckily, because you know you
get below a thousand feet andyou could die Even with the
parachute on.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
You're scrambled to expand.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Yeah, but he made it.
And at the end of it he saidthe lady because the news was
there watching it, it was a bigdeal.
He's going to speak of worldrecords or whatever I guess
Guinness Book of World Recordsor whatever and the lady from
the news asked him how couldanybody in their right mind jump
from an airplane without aparachute and not have a heart
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attack midair?
And what would make you want todo that?
He said because somebody toldme I couldn't and I wanted to
make sure that I could, becauseI knew in my mind I could.
And he's done it twice sincethen.
Again, yeah, and he's workingon twice since then again yeah.
And he's working on going to goup even higher.
But anyway, what I thoughtabout it for me was there's a
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guy that doesn't listen tonothing, and when he believes
something, that's how strongthose beliefs are.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
I mean because he's flying at what?
210.
Why do you not even know whatterminal velocity is like 210
miles an hour towards the ground?
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
At a at the ground, with only boxers on Right With
the.
There's so many parametersinvolved in this.
You know his friend's got to beperfect.
You know everything's got towork out perfectly.
Yeah, friend's got to beperfect.
You know, everything's got towork out perfectly, yeah, and he
just believed he could.
And it didn't work outperfectly because in his own
mind he said, at 5 000 feet I'mgoing to be hooked up and I'm
landing right or at 8 000 feet.
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I've got my own shoot on yeahand uh.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
But he said, you know , somebody said I couldn't, and
so I did it yeah, I mean thatthat is a definitely beautiful
way to go about it is do theresearch.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Which that's kind of an extreme example.
It is an extreme case, but it'sa good example, but he's had to
jump like 3,000 or 4,000 times.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
You don't have to go quite that extreme, but it's a
perfect example to kind of drillhome the concept that we're
trying to deliver, which is, youknow, do your own freaking
research.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
He's kind of a goofy guy because they asked him what
did you do to prepare for thisjob and he said slept.
It was funny, man.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
I slept and ate potato chips, you know.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
I had an energy drink this morning.
I took about a four hour napand then I jumped.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Don't overthink it, man Just do it.
Just well, no.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Collect your own.
Before you take a belief on anddecide that you're going to
encompass yourself with thebelief, make sure it's something
that you want to take on.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Oh, and everything Self-discover everything.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Every single thing.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
You know, do your own beliefs.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Do your own research, you know.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
Open your mind to doing things differently.
Open your mind to having thatmindset of you.
Know what this world is mine,Not anybody else's and I'm going
to experience it for what Iexperienced it, for not what
everybody else did and wrote ina book or somewhere.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
Right and how I want to experience it, not a oh.
Woe is me.
I'm trapped in this experienceand can't do anything about it,
so I'm going to just stay closedminded because I can't do
anything anyways.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Very vapid.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Vapid, that's a vapid response.
I feel pretty good Open up andexplore.
Explore the world, live life,get to know yourself.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
Decide what beliefs you want to carry around,
because when you start releasingthose beliefs that are not
yours, you will feel so muchlighter and so much more
energetic and and so much better.
Yeah, I agree, so much freer.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Not beat down and bogged down with a bunch of dumb
ass beliefs.
They're not even yours, Rightthat's that's very heavy, yours
Right that's, that's very heavy.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
So yeah, give yourself the opportunity to
explore what is exciting, whatis fun, what is going to be your
next adventure that you go on?
Speaker 1 (48:55):
I was watching Mike Moss this morning.
He's a professional gamblerthat's won so much money from
the casinos he's banned from,like every casino in the world.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Instead of Frank Fungus.
Speaker 1 (49:06):
What?
I didn't get your joke there.
I know you're tickled.
You said Mike Moss.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
And I said, instead of Fred Fungus, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (49:17):
And he said this morning, when somebody asked him
when he was in an interviewbecause he's got a podcast and
he was being interviewed, andthe guy asked him what made you
think you'd go in the casino andwin that much money, he said I
didn't believe that the housealways wins.
I said I believe that the housealways manipulates the
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opportunity for them to win.
And so if I could figure out away to manipulate my reality?
I said I believe that the housealways manipulates the
opportunity for them to win.
And so if I could figure out away to manipulate my reality to
where my effectiveness of myreality is in my best interest
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and not theirs then I win, andhe won like $700 million from
the casinos.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, he started with 800.
Yeah, you know you said somepretty profound things right
there.
I want to touch on real brieflyOkay.
He said, I wanted to make surethat it was in my best interest
and the effectiveness wasaligned with what is good for me
right and if we do that on aregular basis instead of stop
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trying to do that for others andwe do it for ourself.
Is this an alignment with thebest interest of me?
Then that will begin torecreate a reality that keeps
you in alignment, unless youbegin to see a pattern where it
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doesn't quite work out to be asmooth, calm kind of ride,
funkiness kind of pops up, calmkind of ride, funkiness kind of
pops up.
You'll want to look at whetheror not you have defined yourself
as being worthy and deservingof having that kind of
experience.
Right, because that belief ofnot having self-deserving or
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self-worthiness will kind ofmuck that up.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
He said that the guy asked him well, you know all the
games that the casinos put out,you know they have researched
them and they know that theyhave an advantage to the house
and blah, blah, blah, blah, blahblah.
And he said I don't believethat.
I said I believe theymanipulate themselves.
He said it doesn't make anysense to me when you put a six
deck blackjack game out in frontof me and the cards are all
there.
They cannot be manipulated.
After that point right.
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And they don't know what I'mgoing to do, they don't know if
I'm going to hit stay.
I can go completely against thewhole realm of what anybody
thinks, if I want to, right, andso you can't tell me that.
Nor do I believe for one minutethat every game that the casino
puts out is based to wherethey're going to win.
Do they win?
Yes, but I win too, yeah.
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And so he.
And so the guy was like what doyou mean?
I said.
He said once those cards are inthat shoe, they can't change
them because you can see them.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah, because they would get in trouble if they did
.
Speaker 1 (52:12):
Well, I mean, they all manipulate the things they
do.
It's part of the game.
But that's what he said is.
It's a game they aremanipulating to win.
It's like I'm trying tomanipulate to win and all it is
is do you believe that you canmanipulate better than them?
Right, and if you don't believeit, then don't sit down at
those tables.
Speaker 2 (52:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Because you will give your money to them.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Unless you don't really want to win.
Yeah, that could be it too Imean unless you have some money,
that your money guy says listen, you got to get rid of some
money or your taxes are going tobe wonky and you're looking for
a place to donate it.
Speaker 1 (52:48):
Well, you can't write that off on your taxes, but
anyway, I feel pretty complete.
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (52:54):
I feel great.
Speaker 1 (52:55):
Self-discovered guys Self-discovered.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (52:58):
I thank you all for listening today.
Tune in to our website atwwwthemerchcentersorg and you
can check us out on social mediaat the Merch Centers and that's
T-H-E-M-E-R-C-C-E-N-T-E-R-S,and you can see all sorts of
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stuff On there from us.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
And other than that, I think I'm good.
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