May 6, 2025 • 44 mins
What if your child's challenging behavior isn't a problem, but a message about your own energy? Kevin Young, intuitive coach and healing facilitator, reveals how our most sensitive children are actually mirrors reflecting our own emotional state.
When children act out—whether through tantrums, meltdowns, or defiance—they're often responding to energetic imbalances in their environment. Drawing from his work with telepathy and consciousness, Kevin explains how children naturally operate at higher frequencies and struggle when pulled down into lower vibrational states of fear, worry, or stress. Rather than trying to "fix" these children, we need to understand the message they're delivering.
Kevin shares a powerful framework for understanding emotional states using the Abraham emotional scale, showing how anger and rebellion are actually a child's attempt to move upward from feelings of powerlessness. Through personal examples with his granddaughter, he demonstrates how creating safe outlets for emotional release and checking our own energy can transform challenging moments into opportunities for connection.
For parents of highly sensitive or neurodiverse children, this conversation offers a revolutionary perspective. These children aren't broken—they're at the forefront of humanity's spiritual evolution, showing us how to maintain our connection to source energy despite external pressures. By teaching them tools for energetic protection and honoring their natural sensitivity, we help them transform what might be seen as challenges into their greatest strengths.
This episode bridges the gap between practical parenting and spiritual awareness, offering insights that work regardless of your belief system. Whether you're raising a child with an official diagnosis or simply navigating the intensity of a sensitive soul, you'll discover how to create an environment where both you and your child can thrive.
Join us to learn how the relationship between telepathy, consciousness, and parenting can transform your family dynamic. By understanding the true nature of your child's sensitivity, you'll discover the gift hidden within the challenge.
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Kevin Young (00:00):
Telepathy is just a subset of that, where you're
picking a person or a collectiveof people who are on the same
frequency to open up a channelto, and then the thoughts are
the same.
You're sharing thought.
You're not creating thethoughts.
The thoughts exist.
You're tuning to the thoughtsand then you share thoughts in
the nonphysical realm.
That's essentially to me whattelepathy is.
So the work I do in theExploring Telepathy calls and as
(00:22):
as private clients as well, isabout just chilling out and how
do we get up into that range?
And then channeling andconnecting is a lot easier when
you can do that part, so I dothis part mostly.
Okay, get them up there.
Carrie Lingenfelter (00:38):
Who knows, if they stay up there, they'll
come.
Kevin Young (00:39):
Well, you know, you're teaching them how right.
Well, yeah, and I help themthrough guided meditations and
so forth.
But the thing is that onceyou've tasted that like once
somebody wants to truly get intoa full-blown channeling state
there's this immense flood oflove which goes through the body
, which brings people to tearssometimes.
Carrie Lingenfelter (00:56):
Hi Conscious Parents.
It's Keri here and I am herewith a little info about raising
our mindful kids.
I've got some tips and tricksabout breaking free of the box
and becoming who you are andteaching your kids how to do
that along the way.
Join us.
Hey there and welcome back.
I'm your intuitive mama, keri,here, and I'm so excited to
introduce a guest that I'veconnected with, mr Kevin Young.
(01:20):
He's an intuitive coach, ahealing facilitator.
He's in a telepathy group thatI am in on Facebook and he's one
of the administrators.
It's been really powerful toconnect with Kevin.
Thanks so much for being heretoday and joining us.
Kevin Young (01:36):
It's my honor, Keri .
Thanks for having me.
Carrie Lingenfelter (01:39):
So, yeah, so I'm hearing these kids.
They're being born with theseintensities and it's not just
like in the autism.
I feel like a wholeneurodiverse realm are coming
and some of the kids evenclassified as there's kids, as
highly sensitive children too.
Maybe they don't have officiallabels or anything.
They have so many amazingstrengths but also coming with
(02:00):
some challenges too.
Challenges like the apraxia notbeing able to speak because of
the physical pieces of it.
Brains are so intense and soactive that oftentimes it can be
easy to end up with anxiety ornervousness, or these heightened
senses can make it so thatbeing in the body can feel so
hard.
So, helping on this mission totry to help parents understand
(02:23):
that, yes, it can be really,really challenging raising these
kids up sometimes, but we alsoneed to help them stay connected
so they can stay conscious intoadulthood.
That's what I keep hearing.
Kevin Young (02:33):
Sure, and how interesting.
That applies to neurotypicalchildren too.
Yes, keeping them, helping themto stay in alignment and
guidance.
I've had our granddaughter, mywife's granddaughter.
She's got four kids and a bunchof grandkids, and I are like
when your son came in, we werethere when she was born and I
(02:55):
held her on my chest that dayand I just it was like and she's
five now, but I had that energyof like I know I'm supposed to
be in your life and you're inmine for a reason.
There's a healing part of methat needs to happen and there's
going to be some healing you'regoing to need because of the
(03:15):
environment.
And I had the same thing withmy own daughter 37 years ago,
but I knew nothing 37 years ago.
I was in a little box of fearand worry and so I couldn't see
the gift.
But now, in this environment, Ihave that like watching her
grow and being part of you knowit's every so often we don't
have her very often, but there'sjust that connection that
(03:39):
happens again and I watch partof that pure soul starting to be
muted as it does as the humanbrain takes over and they adapt
the fears and the beliefs of thesurrounding environment.
And so my role is to help herstay, as you just said, kind of
come back to that role ofself-guidance and fun and joy.
And we can.
(04:00):
You know we bake thingstogether sometimes and you know
we can make a mess.
And we bake things togethersometimes and we can make a mess
, and we're here to enjoy themoment and not accomplish a goal
.
And so it's taught me that I'vegot to be even more present
than her.
I didn't realize how not presentI was a lot of the time when
she would show up and start toget, suddenly she'd get angry,
(04:20):
she'd start attacking almost shedoes this to her mom all the
time Used to, she'd bite her.
When she does this to her momall the time Used to, she'd bite
her when she was two or threeand I realized that she wants to
be up here.
But the environment that shehappened to be in in that moment
was trying to pull her downinto fear or worry or stress.
And so the next step up if youbecome familiar with the Abraham
(04:40):
emotional scale, they talkabout the emotional range.
Abraham emotional scale, theytalk about the emotional range.
And when you're down at thebottom and fear and
powerlessness and grief andguilt.
You want to do everything youcan to get out of there, but
most of us are numb to it, so westay there.
But kids aren't numb yet, sothey want to go up through a
range which is anger and rageand revenge.
Even that is the path out ofpowerlessness and then back up
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to optimism, hope and joy.
And so these kids, when theyact out and I've watched this in
the neurodiverse kids as well,the headbanging and screaming
and so forth, it's the samething they're being pulled down
much farther than they want togo by the environment.
There's no blame.
It's not somebody's fault thatthey're that way.
(05:24):
We're doing the best we can.
Sometimes it's a negativeenvironment, but, as you said,
they're so sensitive it's likepins and needles, it's like
torture to them, and so theymove up into the rage, which is
about as far as they can go toget some sort of breath of fresh
air away from the powerlessenergy that they're around.
And so when my granddaughterdoes that, we've now we've got a
(05:47):
little game.
I've got a punching bag or likea sandbag, and some baseball
bats in the basement that I usedto use for clients who would
come over to move through thisand she knows.
She said I want to godownstairs, you know, and she'll
grab the one of the bats andshe'll start swinging it just
for like 10 seconds.
See, because she corrects likethat, she knows how to let go
because she's familiar with thathigh frequency.
(06:09):
It hasn't been numbed out ofher yet.
But if she starts doing that tome, like if she starts suddenly
, she'll start suddenly.
I'll look at myself.
I say, okay, I am tired and I'mletting my emotions kind of
drop.
Maybe I'm feeling a little morepowerless than I thought I was.
I didn't even recognize it, I'mjust used to.
(06:31):
I get tired.
I kind of I let my emotionsdrop and she's telling me by her
reaction to me that I want Idon't want you down here,
grandpa, I want you to be backup in the play energy, and so
it's my job.
Then, if I can get back there,if I realize, oh, I just let it
go, let's get back up to the funand light and loving energy.
Or I said grandpa's going to go, take a rest and you're going
to play with grandma for a while.
But either way, the wholelesson is so powerful and I'm
(06:51):
watching as parents arestruggling with these kids and I
want to be able to share thisinformation that it is about the
environment.
That's what they're here toteach us.
You're supposed to be sensitiveto how you feel.
You're supposed to be sensitiveto how you feel.
You're not supposed to be downthere in the muck of fear and
powerlessness and grief andguilt and shame for any length
of time.
It's not good for you.
You'll attract things down inthat environment.
(07:13):
And the kids?
They can't be corrected.
That's why they're on aspectrum and not one thing.
You can't give them one pill orone operation.
They came on a spectrum so thatwe can't try to.
We're trying, we're trying toassign a problem with a virus or
a you know this or that and theother thing, sorry, they're
going to keep coming in becausewe have stuff to learn here.
Yes, and there's nothing that ahuman can do about that,
(07:37):
because this is part of ourcollective unfolding.
We're all going to be moreautistic at some point.
Carrie Lingenfelter (07:43):
Yes, I don't know if you've ever read
or heard any of Dolores Cannon.
Like some of the indigo childpieces and the star seeds and
all of that.
It's really interesting.
When I was looking back at it,they mentioned that the I think
they started seeing a first waveof indigo children around.
Like the I want to say it wasthe late fifties, early sixties
was the first round and then Iwas reading at one point that
(08:06):
there's like indigo crystalrainbow, there's several
different eras and rounds, thateach round that came was
stronger each time because thefirst round couldn't do their
mission, that they were wanting,they had so much resistance,
yes, so then the next round hadto be stronger.
And I feel like that with myhusband and I, where we have
(08:26):
that heightened sensitivity wehave.
We're both very gifted andtalented and also have a hard
time with attention sometimesourselves, because we are so
connected.
I used to always hear my momsay, like focus, we need to
focus, and it was because I waswoo all the time.
Even when I'm driving, I'm likeI need to focus.
So it was like this era that wecame.
(08:48):
My husband and I came in in the80s and then I think we were
preparing to welcome in thisnext era that's coming now and
there's so much louder andstronger and more connected.
Kevin Young (08:58):
Yeah, that's beautiful.
I completely agree.
And, as you said, it can onlybe done to the increment that
society is ready to awaken.
And really it's why COVID camealong.
It's why the current politicalsituation is here.
We need disruption.
We need those fears pushed inour face to where we'll start to
look within.
Why am I being triggered?
(09:19):
Why do I have a belief systemthat is holding me down?
It doesn't matter where you gotit, it comes from childhood.
So what, right?
What matters is the now moment.
What are you being triggeredabout and what are you going to
do about it?
Because it's not somebodyelse's fault that they push your
button.
It's your button hanging outthere and you want to have power
.
You want to take control ofthat again and find ways to
(09:41):
become vibrationally impervious.
This is I've had this in anumber of channeling sessions
over the years because I'mthinking I want to reach more
people, I want to be morehelpful.
And they said well, guess what?
Some of the people who show upare going to not be so kind.
You want to reach a millionpeople.
You're not going to get amillion loving supporters
(10:01):
Accepting yeah, ain't going tohappen, because I'm still not as
solid as I want to be and soall of last year I had an
illness and a bunch of thingswhere it was sort of that
tearing apart, of really facingsome of the real self-hatred,
self-loathing energies that Ihad all the way back to, you
know, young childhood.
(10:22):
And now, of course, I was readyfor this piece.
I can feel the next piece isgoing to be.
I can already feel theresistance I have and the
beliefs I've got to work through.
And I'm having a sessiontomorrow with one of the people
actually in the group who's along distance medical, intuitive
, healing intuitive, who hasdone really wonderful work with
(10:43):
my wife in the last couple ofweeks.
So I'm going to see her and shejust showed up from this group.
Again, you know, breadcrumbs, ifyou just let the thing that
lights up and you just go inthat direction and try not to
let the brain judge and theanswer is that we're here to be
supported and to move forward.
So I love that you and me andthese groups, we're out here on
(11:04):
this leading edge where it'sscary and the unknown.
But when you know that you'resource energy, you know that
you're eternal, nothing canhappen.
The body's going to come and go.
We've been in lots of bodiesright, there's nothing going
wrong, and just chill out andalign and start practicing this,
and then we become the examplefor others.
We fill the cup up, we overflowto others, we radiate it, but
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we don't fall into theirnegative energy.
We maintain.
That's the difference betweencompassion and empathy.
Empathy goes into the negativefrequency, which doesn't help
anybody.
Compassion stays connected tosource, sends them love and
helps where they can if they'reasking for help and helping them
in the way that helps them beself-empowered.
(11:48):
Not doing it for them, unlessthere's no choice, but rather
helping them work through theirstruggles so that they can come
into alignment with themselvesand be self-empowered, and so on
, and so on, and so on.
Carrie Lingenfelter (12:00):
I love the way you mentioned that we're
learning from them and they'relearning from you know it's like
an energetic exchange almost,and I feel like energetically in
our house.
And, for example, the othernight we've been suffering
illness here and there and myhusband was tired and he was
trying to brush my daughter'steeth and she was very emotional
and so he was gettingfrustrated and she was picking
(12:21):
up his frustration andreflecting it back at him.
And it was just this, you knowthis thing, it was ramping up.
I'm like, okay, hang on, dad'sgoing to go wash the dishes for
a second, let me sit and chatwith you.
And I went in there with thiscalm, loving energy and she came
down you know from herheightened state that and she
started to reflect that calm,loving energy.
I was able to brush her teethand I was trying to show my
(12:44):
husband later on like she'sreflecting what she's picking up
from you.
It's, it's really interesting.
Kevin Young (12:49):
Yeah, and when you can see that everything is a
reflection, we are creating thereality, we're living by what
we're sending out.
Everything, everyone, everyexperience, every event, every
circumstance is always areflection at the level that
we're sending out in the moment,and there's no judgment, it's
just a reflective mirror, 360,all the way around us and when
you can see the reflection.
(13:10):
When you're not feeling good andyou're seeing something that
doesn't feel good, that'sbecause that's what you've been
doing, usually subconsciously,for long enough to where the
momentum build up to that yougot the reflection.
Carrie Lingenfelter (13:22):
Interesting .
Yes, that's really interesting,I think, as parents too, in
this.
Going through this, youmentioned, like the reflection
on ourselves of things that weneed to heal, and I'm trying to
take on 2025 as my year foracknowledging challenges as
moments to learn, my year foracknowledging challenges as
moments to learn, heal and growin.
What would you say about thatfor parents?
Kevin Young (13:44):
Well, there's never a time not to be doing that.
Carrie Lingenfelter (13:47):
For everyone, not just parents.
Kevin Young (13:53):
Yeah, and there are reasons for challenges.
We wouldn't have collectivelycreated a limited
third-dimensional reality,separation and lack and
limitation if there wasn't somemassive benefit to the broader
consciousness.
So everything has purpose, andso the purpose of channeling our
immense consciousness down intoonly three dimensions and in
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this little body is because itprovides a lot more variety from
which to choose.
You've got a lot more negativeextremes and there's a lot more
range to go positive, and so thepoint of existence is to seek
joy through expansion of our ownsoul, the things that are
important to us.
But you can't do that withouthaving choices.
(14:36):
Discernment is everything, andso, as a society, we get really
hard on each other and ourselveswhen we do something wrong or
we make a mistake.
But there's no mistakes,there's just I'm just steering
the ship in another direction.
Oh, I hit the rocks over here,okay, well then that's not the
direction.
Okay, well, what does that tellme?
This is the direction over hereinstead.
So now I go in that directionfor a bit and hey, there's some
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more rocks.
But now I know about hittingrocks.
Okay, so now I can steer.
So nothing's going wrong, it'sjust we make it as soon as we
judge it going wrong, then nowwe're pulling our own energy
down and we're heading towardsthe rocks.
Everything's about chilling outand lightening up and just
enjoying the ride and not makinganything wrong or bad.
And in the moment of letting goof the judgment, which is
(15:19):
usually self-judgment, then welighten up and now we're sending
out that energy and it'sreflected back, just as you did
with your child.
You intentionally find no wayto do this, carrie.
You probably got lots oftechniques how you can settle
that energy and become superpresent, and the reflection, as
you said, showed her how to doit.
(15:39):
It was your daughter, right,you said?
Or your son, your daughter, andit also kind of amplifies
within you.
This is what works.
This is how it works and youcan create any environment by
that same process.
It's just coming into alignment, letting the brain off the hook
and just starting to trust thebroader consciousness flowing
(16:01):
through us through streams ofpositive impulses.
Carrie Lingenfelter (16:04):
Wow, I feel like when my kids are in these
emotional states, watching, Ican feel like their spirit is
wanting to leave and I'm tryingto keep them in their body With
your granddaughter.
It sounds like you guys get ina physical state right Hitting a
beanbag.
Kevin Young (16:22):
Well sometimes, yeah, oh well, it's whatever.
It depends it depends, andthat's a matter for the child to
choose.
It's one of the things that wedon't do as a society very well.
We got this school systemkindergarten through 12, you
know, in the US and it's allabout telling the children
here's how you're supposed to be, here's what you're supposed to
learn, here's how you'resupposed to learn, here's when
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you're supposed to learn it.
Don't you dare make a decisionthat feels good to you, because
we will give you a bad grade andthen we'll put it on your card
and we'll give it to yourAnyways I'm kind of exaggerating
, but it's not that far off andthen we get into society,
governments and religions andbusinesses, and there's a very
similar kind of paradigm yourown guidance isn't good enough
(17:04):
for you.
We've been around on this earthlonger a few decades longer
than you, so we know it's betterfor you.
And this is why they arerebelling.
They either rebel and become.
When they're about two or threeyears old, they start to get
that personality.
Well, let's just squash thatquickly before it gets out of
control.
And what that does is it saysyou know your own inner guidance
, your divine, broader self,isn't important enough.
(17:28):
Our control is more important.
And why would anybody try tocontrol another?
Because they're in fearthemselves.
Control is about fear, and soit's one of the things that
Abraham I listened to theAbraham Hicks materials.
That's what really what startedwhen I had the brain tumor in
2008.
That's where my journey startedwas we got Abraham Hicks CDs
like the same week that I wasdiagnosed.
(17:50):
So suddenly my journey openedup then, and that's one of the
things they talk about is youknow, yeah, you got to keep your
kids alive.
That's, that's your primary job.
But beyond that, beyond keepingthem alive, your job is to help
them discern and define theirown path, and this includes
learning.
No kid's going to go into five,six, seven, eight years old and
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not want to learn how to reador write.
If their friends are doing it,they will learn because they
want to be with their friends,they want to connect, they want
to learn the things that theywant to learn, but the
forcedness is what pulls themout of alignment.
And then again, we're trainingthem away from the one thing
that not only is going to keepthem alive, but it's going to
bring them joy and allow them toexpress themselves.
So to me it ends up whetherthey're neurodiverse or not.
(18:35):
To me it's the same path.
What is it that you're beingcalled to do?
That somehow the environment'snot letting you do?
Let's see if we can help you todo what you're being called to
do in this now moment, becauseit could change five minutes
from now.
We'll do our best within thecontext of the family and what
other things are going on.
What I found with thegranddaughter is that I only
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have to do that a little bitwith her.
She's so used to being so manyactivities and here's how you
got to do this and that, and itdoesn't take very much long and
suddenly she just like all theenergy comes down and she gets
into creative, playful mode,cause she's not pushing against.
You know, she's not trying tofind her way out of the box
which society is kind ofstarting to put her in.
(19:19):
I just let her, because I youknow, I don't have a job.
I do this kind of stuff, butthe rest of my time's free and
we can go to the park, we canplay in the backyard, we can
bake things, yeah, so it's again.
This is kind of an extreme wayof seeing it, but it applies
pretty much everywhere, and theneurodiverse are here to just
put a big, huge spotlight on it.
You can't suppress us withoutthere being a violent reaction
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because we're not going to benumbed the way the neurotypical
kids are.
We can't be.
Carrie Lingenfelter (19:47):
Have you heard of pathological demand
avoidance?
It's under autism.
Kevin Young (19:53):
I have not heard that term.
Carrie Lingenfelter (19:55):
It came from.
I think it came from England.
I don't know if manyprofessional psychologists are
using it, but they're putting itunder autism now.
And it's so interesting becauseit's basically and I might be
not totally right, because thisis not my expertise but the more
demands we're putting on thesystem, the more they want to
fight against it or rebelagainst it, or if there's too
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many demands, they can shut downor they can push against it.
And it's been so interestingbecause along our parenting
journey we always we would havepeople say you have to do it
this certain way, you have to doit this certain way, or you
know these expertise that wewould go to for help.
And if we really crack down orput something like you're in
timeout, you have to stay inthis one spot, my, my son would
just rage like, just like, no,you're not going to.
(20:41):
So it's just interesting thatwe're now labeling it.
Kevin Young (20:44):
We got to do something because the obvious
thing is they're not ready.
Carrie Lingenfelter (20:47):
So many, we're not ready.
So it's really interestingbecause allowing them to be
themselves, but they I thinkthere is there's I don't know if
you've read any of, I thinkit's Dr Lisa Miller, I'm gonna
have to double check is thespirited child and spirituality.
Kevin Young (21:06):
Susie Miller maybe Susie Miller?
Carrie Lingenfelter (21:08):
No, no, not Susie Miller, it's a
psychologist at um call.
Uh, I have to look it up.
I'm going to look it up for you, Cause she she has a lot of
research on raising kidsspiritually and how spirituality
helps them in all areas ofdevelopment, when they're
spiritually connected, and it'sreally cool.
So she's a clinical researchpsychologist.
Kevin Young (21:30):
Nice.
Carrie Lingenfelter (21:31):
So I'll have to send you the book.
It's not Susie Miller, I knowwho that is from.
Telepathy Takes as well, yeah,so it's interesting.
So she was saying, likechildren are born conscious, as
we've been talking about, andthen teaching them the tools to
remain conscious, as we'retalking about as well, and it's
what I'm finding with my kids isthey can come back to being
conscious so much easier, asyou're describing, than adults
(21:54):
can, right Cause they're not.
I haven't looked at theselevels.
I love this emotional scale,abraham.
Is that Abraham Hicks emotionalscale?
Kevin Young (22:04):
Well, yeah, abraham is the collective consciousness
that Esther Hicks channels.
Yeah, I'll send you theemotional scale.
Carrie Lingenfelter (22:11):
Okay, I would love to share that for
everyone because that's reallyinteresting to think about.
And I describe it as childrenas we're coming along, or what
happened with myself being sucha highly sensitive, connected
person.
And then I wasn't allowed toalways be.
In the 80s, we didn't know whatwe know now.
I wasn't always allowed to bethe highly sensitive person, or
(22:34):
I wasn't allowed to be what wasthe term Brene Brown uses.
It's, oh, I can't remember Highneeds or high.
It wasn't high needs, it waslike you just need it.
You were too.
They needed too much energy orchange.
Right, you had to fit in thebox, you had to be quiet, you
had to be, be a good human.
You weren't allowed to beyourself, basically, and so
you're putting these layers ofonions, like onion layers of
(22:57):
protection, upon yourself.
So then, when you get toadulthood, you're not connected,
you can't hear your heart.
You go through something majorlike becoming a parent and
you're trying so hard to readthe books, follow the rules, get
on the schedules, listen to theAAP, trying to do all these
things that you think you'resupposed to be, and you can't
hear your heart because you haveso many of those layers.
Kevin Young (23:19):
The brain is way too active.
That's why.
Yeah, and so that becomes thedifferentiating point.
If the brain, the humanconsciousness because we got the
two consciousnesses we have whowe really are, which is eternal
, and then we have the humanconsciousness which started at
birth, and this thing goes allover the place, right, that's
what we're trying to reel insometimes, and we can tell how
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far away it is from thisperspective by how we feel.
That's what the emotional scaleis, and so it's about bringing
our conscious focus, based onhow it feels, back into the same
place.
And then now there's noresistance, there's no, you're
not off the radio dial, you'reright on the station, and the
signal is clear.
Carrie Lingenfelter (24:02):
Okay, I have a personal question.
I want to know for myself, onceyou're connected.
My mom and I like to live inthis like we're like out here.
We're not in our bodies.
I'm guessing we probably needto ground ourselves in our
bodies because we're just goingthrough.
I'm forgetting.
Oh, I needed to go to thegrocery store today.
I was supposed to go to suchand such appointment, because
(24:24):
it's so I love to be connectedall the time.
Where is that balance?
What do we need to do?
Kevin Young (24:29):
No, that's a brilliant question, probably one
of the best questions everasked.
Where is the balance point?
And it moves right.
But the way I've come to see itis that we came into a physical
body and a physical experience,to have a physical experience
in the body, but while stillconnected.
So it's the integration of bothand it's a and.
(24:51):
The needle always is alwaysmoving, because our brain is
constantly chattering andchanging, and so you've got to
find the balance point yourselfand you won't keep it.
You got to find the balancepoint yourself and you won't
keep it.
People say how do I findalignment and then stay in
alignment?
I say it ain't going to happen,because that wasn't the point
of being here.
You're here to have the varietyand to go through the downside
so you can figure out what feelsbetter and come back into
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alignment, and in doing soyou're more empowered.
You're more clear about whatworks for you, you have better
idea of what to do next.
You then open the door for newthings to come in so you could
simply grounding is kind of ageneric word, but whatever the
grounding means to you, forinstance for me, I was before
this call.
After lunch I went out in thebackyard.
This is a gorgeous day in themid-60s here and still cool.
(25:35):
So I just put on some likesweats but I took my shoes off
and just sat with my feet in theground, literally on the
physical ground, for about ahalf hour.
That's one way that reallybrings my attention down not
only into my body but right downinto the earth and that feels
really good to me and thatalleviates a lot of that.
But you can do things that aresensual.
(25:56):
You can do things that aretouch, things that are breathing
, flavors and textures andtastes, anything that engages
the five senses in the bodywhile remaining connected.
So if you can find that state,carrie the two, where you're
sensory in the body and yet opento the guidance which is coming
through, then you're going tohave the best of all worlds in
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those moments and when you'renot there.
So you figure out how to getback.
Carrie Lingenfelter (26:21):
Yes, that's great.
Kevin Young (26:22):
Does that help at all?
Carrie Lingenfelter (26:23):
That totally helps my son.
When he was two he used to goaround and hug trees all the
time and I've heard touching atree is another way to grow.
Kevin Young (26:31):
I've done that, yeah.
Carrie Lingenfelter (26:32):
I love that .
Okay, so I have to ask you alittle bit about telepathy.
So so I've always been, morerecently, an intuitive.
Now, and if I, is this anexample of telepathy?
I have to ask you if I hearsomething from spirit or from,
like my grandmother, if I'm inthe shower and I'm washing my
hair and I hear something and Iknow it's her, is that aversion
(26:54):
or is that something different?
Kevin Young (26:56):
Yeah.
So once again, the human needslabels to discern.
It does.
Yeah.
So once again, the human needslabels to discern.
And and those damn spiritualpeople?
Yeah, they don't.
They don't have labels, theydon't have names on the other
side of the veil, because theyknow each other by energy.
And so the names are for us andlabels are fine.
It helps us to create platformsto understand.
(27:17):
But then, once we understand,then get into knowing that we
don't need the labels anymore.
So it's whatever works for you.
The way I look at it, just again, my computer brain wants to
really boil things down.
I think about this stuff everyday and find ways to simplify
the explanation so that peoplecan grab onto it and start
proving it to themselves.
Because I don't want you tolisten to my words.
For proof, you've got to go doit yourself.
(27:38):
But that being said, there'sthe ocean of all consciousness,
which we're all streams off of,we're all different perspectives
, having different journeys, butnever disconnected from the
ocean, and that cannot bedefined in three-dimensional
terms.
It's higher dimension, it'smultiimensional in nature and
the human brain simply can'treally understand that.
We can feel it when we connectto it, but we can't understand
(28:00):
it.
So I like to think that thebrain is usually pretty active
and so we're kind of down herein third dimensional reality.
But if we can, when we softenthat, then our frequency raises
and we get back up into thatcloud of consciousness.
Everything is in that cloud ofconsciousness, back up into that
cloud of consciousness.
Everything is in that cloud ofconsciousness, non-physical
consciousness, everything thepast, grandmother, her
consciousness is there.
(28:20):
Everybody you've ever known isthere.
Source, energy, kind of thecore of all of it is there.
The angelic realm, the fairies,the people in the Pleiadian
star system, everyone has acomponent that's in this cloud,
and the only thing thatseparates the cloud cause
everything is here and now isfrequency.
It's a choice of where we focusour radio station.
(28:42):
So if you're tuned people whoare tuned to somebody who they
loved here in the physical thenyou have a net.
You know what their vibrationfeels like, and so when you
allow yourself to get up towhere the radio is letting go of
the fears and let, and you know, floating out through grounding
or whatever.
Now, it's just that you just setyour focus.
Oh, there's grandma.
Okay, I feel grandma's energy.
Open up to grandma's energy.
(29:04):
Don't let the brain say, ooh,is that really grandma?
Ooh, what should I be doingthis?
There are a lot of people whohave the old dogmatic religions.
It's like, oh, but what aboutevil spirits?
What if I connect?
How do I know?
It's my.
Well, you can feel right Ifyou're up in this range.
Evil doesn't live in thenon-physical range.
It's created down here in whatwe call thought forms.
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It's kind of like a steppingbetween Humans.
Everything is created.
Yeah, evil stuff quote unquotedoes live around us, and
spiritually and physically.
But you will never experienceit unless you're tuned to it.
So yes, grandma is one channel Ilove connecting through people
and myself, sometimes throughcollective consciousnesses that
are really vibrationally veryfamiliar, the energy of Jesus,
(29:47):
the Yeshua collectiveconsciousness, as it was.
Jesus is strong and that's whoI invite in before my calls and
I feel them flood into my bodyand then I just I co-create with
them and that gives me thatguidance.
Telepathy is just a subset ofthat, where you're picking a
person or a collective of peoplewho are on the same frequency
to open up a channel to, andthen the thoughts are the same.
(30:10):
You're sharing thought.
You're not creating thethoughts.
The thoughts exist.
You're tuning to the thoughtsand then you share thoughts in
the non-physical realm.
That's essentially to me whattelepathy is.
So the work I do in theExploring Telepathy calls and as
private clients as well, isabout just chilling out and how
do we get up into that range?
And then channeling andconnecting is a lot easier when
(30:32):
you can do that part, so I dothis part mostly.
Carrie Lingenfelter (30:35):
Okay.
Kevin Young (30:37):
Get them up there.
Carrie Lingenfelter (30:38):
Who knows, if they stay up there, they'll
come out.
Kevin Young (30:40):
Well, you know, but you're teaching them how right.
Carrie Lingenfelter (30:42):
Well, yeah, and.
Kevin Young (30:44):
I help them through guided meditations and so forth
.
But the thing is that onceyou've tasted that like once
somebody wants to truly get intoa full-blown channeling state.
There's this immense flood oflove which goes through the body
, which brings people to tears.
Sometimes Some people call it akundalini awakening.
To me it's just opening up wideenough that that flood comes
through.
And once you've tasted thatnear-death experience same thing
(31:04):
Once you've tasted the purityof that immensity of love, then
you want to get back there andso you kind of become
self-driven to find your wayback.
Carrie Lingenfelter (31:14):
Oh man, do you there.
And so you kind of becomeself-driven to find your way
back.
Oh man, do you?
I've been learning, I've beenstudying so many things.
I'm in a ministry formetaphysics course right now,
and once you open that door it'svery ongoing.
Kevin Young (31:26):
Yeah, why wouldn't you want to feel good?
Carrie Lingenfelter (31:28):
Yeah, it's so amazing to find those pieces
and you know it's interesting.
The channeling that I started,the channel writing that I
started, it's definitelyintensified as it's gone through
it.
Now I cannot write fast enough.
I cannot, I cannot type.
I started trying to type, Imoved to typing.
That cannot go fast enough.
Now sometimes I just like readit into my phone because it
(31:49):
comes so fast.
Kevin Young (31:50):
Yeah, yeah, well, that was the same thing.
I did, automatic writing for awhile, but it would start to
turn into a blur.
I could, like my hand was justgoing across the page.
Yeah, and I was guided in sometime ago that they said you know
, your job is to speak it andthis is why I haven't really
written books.
I've got lots of material I'vedone in the past, but it's like
it's all old in the now moment,and I don't want to go back and
(32:13):
read it.
I don't want to write a bookbecause I'm going to be going
backwards Like I just want to dothis, what we're doing here, I
want to do that in a workshop, Iwant to do that with a client,
where I'm in the present momentand bringing through what wants
to come through me to whoever'scalling for it, and I won't put
up with less.
Carrie Lingenfelter (32:29):
Yes, I agree.
Yes, that's how the podcastended up starting.
Well, I can feel it.
Yes, that's how the podcastended up.
Kevin Young (32:33):
Starting was like how do?
Carrie Lingenfelter (32:34):
we get this ?
How do we get this out topeople?
Kevin Young (32:36):
Yeah, your energy is very bright.
That's one of the things Iimmediately knew when we
connected.
Some people have just like asun behind their head and you
kind of have that, oh,interesting.
Oh, thank you so much.
Carrie Lingenfelter (32:49):
Could be my grandma.
No, it's me, okay.
Yes.
So my grandmother that Iconnect with.
She was a special educator for32 years.
She taught and she worked witha lot of kids that she would say
they were in their bodies andpeople would say I can't help
them.
Other teachers would say Ican't help them, I don't know
what to do with them, send themto Yolanda.
(33:10):
And she would get in there andshe was a healer and she would
say I know you're in there, ba,I know you're in there and you
can hear me and I see yourenergy, I see your soul.
So she was way beyond that wasin the 60s and 70s and 80s yeah,
beyond her time.
Kevin Young (33:24):
So she was, yeah, one of the true leading edge
that you were talking aboutearlier.
How wonderful you had that asan example, sort of shining a
light in a direction that mightbe fun, and clearly you've taken
the baton and are running withit.
Carrie Lingenfelter (33:36):
That's what I'm hearing.
Yes, of course, and it's reallyfun.
I think one of the things thatI love that's coming about, this
evolution of humanity right nowI mean this evolution of ideas,
and I don't know what to callit even, it's so cool is just
understanding, finding thesestrengths in our kids and
empowering them for our kids.
So, like I've said in the past,like my kids have labels, we
(33:59):
don't use them.
I mean we do for medical piecesthat we have to here and there,
but we are empowering.
So I talk to my kids about, yes,sometimes we're extra sensitive
to light and noises and, oh mygosh, it's a superpower, like
you can see, you can pick up.
You can pick up somebody else'sfeelings.
And we talk about energy andprotection and protecting our
(34:20):
energy from others because, yes,we can take that home with us
without realizing it.
And so, having thoseconversations I had that
conversation with mysix-year-old she didn't realize
she was picking up the energyfrom her friend that was going
through some things and woulddrop it on my daughter, and so I
taught her if you start tosuddenly feel their sadness.
And so we did a golden whitelight of protection and said no
(34:45):
negative energy, this is not myenergy, it's not allowed in
right now, and she said she feltbetter, and so I'm trying to
help parents understand like wecan have these conversations
with our kids.
If we have those right now,when they're six years, seven
years, ten years old, can youimagine what's to come in the
next era?
Kevin Young (35:01):
Yes, exactly, you're giving them permission to
be themselves, essentially whatthey're guided to internally,
but they've learned to take onsome of the external, as you
said, the energy.
Yeah, and you're just remindingthem of who they are and that
it's okay to be who they are.
Carrie Lingenfelter (35:18):
Yeah, if everybody, every parent, could
do that, it would be magic itwould be magic, and I think also
you had mentioned having thesepieces that we come back to for
ourselves as parents too,because it can be so challenging
raising these kids in the worldthat is not necessarily
prepared to receive them yet.
Finding, finding the times tobe proactive as a parent,
speaking up, changing theirschools, which I did for my son
(35:39):
and my daughter.
We found a social, emotionalfocus school and they've just
blossomed in it.
It's what they needed, and sohaving that energy as a parent
and it can be hard to keep goingevery day and so having those
pieces for ourselves that we cancome back to is really
important.
Kevin Young (35:58):
Well, as you say, that's sort of the centering and
one of the things that I find,even in the telepathy tapes,
which is one of the mostpositive things I've ever heard
in my life.
It's so resonated.
There's still a small elementof I've got to prove this.
I've just got to get people tobelieve Brain Right.
And well, you know, I was thatway for many years.
I, you know, I had to provemyself to my parents and all
(36:18):
that stuff, and but the thing isthat the emotional scale
doesn't lie right.
Wherever you, whatever you'refeeling, as you just said, for
your kids, which was beautifulthat's also what you're sending
out and what will be reflectedback.
And so, if you want them to bemore effective and there's
nothing wrong with anyone beinganywhere doing anything,
everybody's on their journey ofexpansion and learning and it's
(36:39):
all perfect and if you want totake it to an even more refined
state, then let go of that piece.
Just do the thing that you'rebeing guided to do and you won't
get detractors, becausedetractors only come when you're
at a low vibrational state.
You will attract supporters themore you're in a supportive
state.
So this is just fine-tuningwhat you're already doing and
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whoever's on this journey.
And if I could sit down with KaiDickens for five minutes, I
would say that's the one littlething that if you want to take
this to the next level, it wouldbe just stop trying to prove
things to other people and justdo it because it's a real thing.
And suddenly people say well,wait a second, all our kids are
behind.
Why are your kids so far ahead?
Why are they so happy and whyare they manifesting?
(37:20):
Because we didn't focus on whatwasn't working and proving
ourselves, because nobody'sgoing to get you anyway.
And the reality is that nobodycan get another person a hundred
percent.
It's just not possible becauseeveryone is unique unto the
universe.
So we let that go and justfocus more, get into the joy.
The expansion follow thebreadcrumbs, and the more we do
that then the faster it moves.
(37:41):
But again, there's no wrong way.
You're learning either way.
Carrie Lingenfelter (37:44):
Yeah.
Kevin Young (37:44):
Have fun.
Carrie Lingenfelter (37:45):
You know, I feel like she maybe felt like
she had to be the bridge,because even my husband, who is
an engineer, he's addicted totelepathy tapes right now and
he's more of the science spaceand he's listening.
He's listening.
He's like Carrie, she's sayingwhat you've been saying, she's
saying this, she's now hearingyou know these children, the
(38:06):
gifts.
She's talking about it, thembeing so connected, like wow,
and how did you know?
How did you know?
I'm like, well, if you didn'tbelieve what I was saying before
, I'm glad you now believe itbecause you're seeing it from
somebody else.
Yes, the science base wasproven, so I do understand that
piece and the people that areready to receive it will, even
without all the backup, totally.
Kevin Young (38:24):
And I totally believe that wherever somebody's
at and if they're doing theirpassion, there are people.
The passion comes from thecalling of the people that
they're going to affect.
This is something that reallychanged my life when I realized
my role is a conscious.
I call myself a consciouschannel.
Trans channel are one who gointo a trance, like Esther Hicks
.
Conscious channel I open up andthis is what you do, a lot of
(38:45):
us do.
When we are, wherever we're at,we get an excitement, something
we want to move forward with,particularly helping other
people.
We're sort of the.
We're the channel Source.
Energy sees where we're at.
It's always sending us guidancethrough those impulses,
positive impulses, intuition.
It's always there, just likeevery radio station is there,
(39:07):
but usually we're not listeningright, but then we get into that
state we were talking about.
We're now starting to feel thecalling of the people who are
ready to receive thatinformation but can't get it on
their own.
We're the channel, we'refeeling that energy through our
bodies of the people who areready to receive us where we're
at now, not in a year when weget a certificate, not in five
(39:29):
years when we've done Now.
If you're feeling it now,they're there now and so I tell
this to people who want to gointo business doing these
various kinds of spiritualhealing work you know you don't
need more experience, you don'tneed.
If you're feeling the callingnow, do it now, because there's
no wrong way to go.
Clearly felt her calling.
I mean it's just it radiatesall through her and she's
connecting with the people whoshe's ready to help, who are her
(39:52):
highest excitement.
I, who she's ready to help, whoare her highest excitement.
I'm looking at it from adifferent perspective.
I couldn't do what she does,but I can see that if and when
she wants to go to an even otherlevel, if she doesn't find it
herself, which she probably willthen letting go of the proof
side for her audience, whichwill come with her to that, not
needing the proof side, we'llthen rendezvous at that point.
So there's no wrong place to befor anybody.
Carrie Lingenfelter (40:16):
Yes.
Kevin Young (40:17):
And I wouldn't be here talking with you if it
weren't for her.
So I have the deepestappreciation for Kai Dickens and
all the work that she's done.
Carrie Lingenfelter (40:24):
Yep, yep, yeah, I love she's bridging
those pieces for so many people.
Kevin Young (40:29):
Let her be out on the front lines.
I like being here.
Carrie Lingenfelter (40:32):
Me too.
Yes, it was so beautifulbecause when I first started the
podcast, I was, I mean, I havethe evidence-based theory,
practice background and I didn'tput spirituality out there.
At first, it was like mindfulconscious, using these keywords
that weren't really out thereand my neck and everything my
body physically locked up untilI wrote spiritual on my website
(40:56):
and then everything released.
Kevin Young (40:58):
Wow, that is so cool.
So you really came intointegrity, into alignment with
yourself, by allowing yourselfto put that word out there.
Carrie Lingenfelter (41:07):
Yes, yes, yeah.
Kevin Young (41:08):
Well, I had the same when I learned law of
attraction 15 years ago.
Whenever that was 17 years ago,I wouldn't tell anybody.
This makes sense to me and I'mstarting to do it.
I'm starting to prove to myselfthat I do attract what I focus
on.
And we started holdingworkshops in our living room for
just a small group of people,and it expanded.
(41:29):
But I didn't even put it on myFacebook page for many years.
And then suddenly there wasthat like well, what am I afraid
of?
You know?
the mafia aren't going to comein the door, you know, and the
intellectual mafia, or whatever,you know.
Carrie Lingenfelt (41:43):
Science-based mafia.
Kevin Young (41:45):
Yeah, well then they wouldn't.
They couldn't because unless Iwas in fear and I realized I've
got to let go of my fear of thisso that I don't attract what I
don't want, what I'm afraid thatmight happen, I will manifest
if I continue down that path.
And so then the journey sincethen has been just what you're
inspired to put out, put out,and very seldom do I have
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anybody who doesn't totallyresonate with it.
Once in a while I do, if I'mhaving a bad day, somebody will
jump in and just be all over mycrap and right in my face about
it, and then that means thatI've got something I've got to
heal, and so I pull away and Ilet it go, and then I get back
to the broader perspective.
Carrie Lingenfelter (42:23):
Beautifully put.
So, Kevin, I was going to askyou if you could tell, as we
conclude, if you could tell ourlisteners that are raising kids
today what's one thing you wouldlike to leave parents with
today.
Kevin Young (42:41):
I'd say you know just the reflection that they're
giving you to you.
If, as we've been talking about, if they are acting up and
you're feeling stressed about it, then it may not be originally
because of you.
They might've been stressedwith something else, but if
you're experiencing that stress,then you've got stress going on
and they're reflecting it backto you.
(43:01):
So do whatever works for you,like we were talking about.
There's a million things youcan do to find peace, get away
from the energy, come back intoalignment, and magic happens
when you do that.
Carrie Lingenfelter (43:10):
Well, I will include that Facebook group
we were talking about in ourshow notes.
Thanks so much for being heretoday.
Kevin Young (43:16):
Totally my pleasure , Keri.
Thanks so much for inviting me.
Carrie Lingenfelter (43:20):
Well, that's a wrap.
Thanks so much for tuning in.
Changemakers.
This is Keri, and if youhaven't done a review for us
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(43:41):
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It's hearttoheartlifecom.
Thanks so much for tuning inand happy life, happy times.
Changemaker families.
Bye.
Telepathy is just a subset of that, where you're
picking a person or a collectiveof people who are on the same
frequency to open up a channelto, and then the thoughts are
the same.
You're sharing thought.
You're not creating thethoughts.
The thoughts exist.
You're tuning to the thoughtsand then you share thoughts in
the nonphysical realm.
That's essentially to me whattelepathy is.
So the work I do in theExploring Telepathy calls and as
(00:22):
as private clients as well, isabout just chilling out and how
do we get up into that range?
And then channeling andconnecting is a lot easier when
you can do that part, so I dothis part mostly.
Okay, get them up there.
Carrie Lingenfelter (00:38):
Who knows, if they stay up there, they'll
come.
Kevin Young (00:39):
Well, you know, you're teaching them how right.
Well, yeah, and I help themthrough guided meditations and
so forth.
But the thing is that onceyou've tasted that like once
somebody wants to truly get intoa full-blown channeling state
there's this immense flood oflove which goes through the body
, which brings people to tearssometimes.
Carrie Lingenfelter (00:56):
Hi Conscious Parents.
It's Keri here and I am herewith a little info about raising
our mindful kids.
I've got some tips and tricksabout breaking free of the box
and becoming who you are andteaching your kids how to do
that along the way.
Join us.
Hey there and welcome back.
I'm your intuitive mama, keri,here, and I'm so excited to
introduce a guest that I'veconnected with, mr Kevin Young.
(01:20):
He's an intuitive coach, ahealing facilitator.
He's in a telepathy group thatI am in on Facebook and he's one
of the administrators.
It's been really powerful toconnect with Kevin.
Thanks so much for being heretoday and joining us.
Kevin Young (01:36):
It's my honor, Keri .
Thanks for having me.
Carrie Lingenfelter (01:39):
So, yeah, so I'm hearing these kids.
They're being born with theseintensities and it's not just
like in the autism.
I feel like a wholeneurodiverse realm are coming
and some of the kids evenclassified as there's kids, as
highly sensitive children too.
Maybe they don't have officiallabels or anything.
They have so many amazingstrengths but also coming with
(02:00):
some challenges too.
Challenges like the apraxia notbeing able to speak because of
the physical pieces of it.
Brains are so intense and soactive that oftentimes it can be
easy to end up with anxiety ornervousness, or these heightened
senses can make it so thatbeing in the body can feel so
hard.
So, helping on this mission totry to help parents understand
(02:23):
that, yes, it can be really,really challenging raising these
kids up sometimes, but we alsoneed to help them stay connected
so they can stay conscious intoadulthood.
That's what I keep hearing.
Kevin Young (02:33):
Sure, and how interesting.
That applies to neurotypicalchildren too.
Yes, keeping them, helping themto stay in alignment and
guidance.
I've had our granddaughter, mywife's granddaughter.
She's got four kids and a bunchof grandkids, and I are like
when your son came in, we werethere when she was born and I
(02:55):
held her on my chest that dayand I just it was like and she's
five now, but I had that energyof like I know I'm supposed to
be in your life and you're inmine for a reason.
There's a healing part of methat needs to happen and there's
going to be some healing you'regoing to need because of the
(03:15):
environment.
And I had the same thing withmy own daughter 37 years ago,
but I knew nothing 37 years ago.
I was in a little box of fearand worry and so I couldn't see
the gift.
But now, in this environment, Ihave that like watching her
grow and being part of you knowit's every so often we don't
have her very often, but there'sjust that connection that
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happens again and I watch partof that pure soul starting to be
muted as it does as the humanbrain takes over and they adapt
the fears and the beliefs of thesurrounding environment.
And so my role is to help herstay, as you just said, kind of
come back to that role ofself-guidance and fun and joy.
And we can.
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You know we bake thingstogether sometimes and you know
we can make a mess.
And we bake things togethersometimes and we can make a mess
, and we're here to enjoy themoment and not accomplish a goal
.
And so it's taught me that I'vegot to be even more present
than her.
I didn't realize how not presentI was a lot of the time when
she would show up and start toget, suddenly she'd get angry,
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she'd start attacking almost shedoes this to her mom all the
time Used to, she'd bite her.
When she does this to her momall the time Used to, she'd bite
her when she was two or threeand I realized that she wants to
be up here.
But the environment that shehappened to be in in that moment
was trying to pull her downinto fear or worry or stress.
And so the next step up if youbecome familiar with the Abraham
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emotional scale, they talkabout the emotional range.
Abraham emotional scale, theytalk about the emotional range.
And when you're down at thebottom and fear and
powerlessness and grief andguilt.
You want to do everything youcan to get out of there, but
most of us are numb to it, so westay there.
But kids aren't numb yet, sothey want to go up through a
range which is anger and rageand revenge.
Even that is the path out ofpowerlessness and then back up
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to optimism, hope and joy.
And so these kids, when theyact out and I've watched this in
the neurodiverse kids as well,the headbanging and screaming
and so forth, it's the samething they're being pulled down
much farther than they want togo by the environment.
There's no blame.
It's not somebody's fault thatthey're that way.
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We're doing the best we can.
Sometimes it's a negativeenvironment, but, as you said,
they're so sensitive it's likepins and needles, it's like
torture to them, and so theymove up into the rage, which is
about as far as they can go toget some sort of breath of fresh
air away from the powerlessenergy that they're around.
And so when my granddaughterdoes that, we've now we've got a
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little game.
I've got a punching bag or likea sandbag, and some baseball
bats in the basement that I usedto use for clients who would
come over to move through thisand she knows.
She said I want to godownstairs, you know, and she'll
grab the one of the bats andshe'll start swinging it just
for like 10 seconds.
See, because she corrects likethat, she knows how to let go
because she's familiar with thathigh frequency.
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It hasn't been numbed out ofher yet.
But if she starts doing that tome, like if she starts suddenly
, she'll start suddenly.
I'll look at myself.
I say, okay, I am tired and I'mletting my emotions kind of
drop.
Maybe I'm feeling a little morepowerless than I thought I was.
I didn't even recognize it, I'mjust used to.
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I get tired.
I kind of I let my emotionsdrop and she's telling me by her
reaction to me that I want Idon't want you down here,
grandpa, I want you to be backup in the play energy, and so
it's my job.
Then, if I can get back there,if I realize, oh, I just let it
go, let's get back up to the funand light and loving energy.
Or I said grandpa's going to go, take a rest and you're going
to play with grandma for a while.
But either way, the wholelesson is so powerful and I'm
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watching as parents arestruggling with these kids and I
want to be able to share thisinformation that it is about the
environment.
That's what they're here toteach us.
You're supposed to be sensitiveto how you feel.
You're supposed to be sensitiveto how you feel.
You're not supposed to be downthere in the muck of fear and
powerlessness and grief andguilt and shame for any length
of time.
It's not good for you.
You'll attract things down inthat environment.
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And the kids?
They can't be corrected.
That's why they're on aspectrum and not one thing.
You can't give them one pill orone operation.
They came on a spectrum so thatwe can't try to.
We're trying, we're trying toassign a problem with a virus or
a you know this or that and theother thing, sorry, they're
going to keep coming in becausewe have stuff to learn here.
Yes, and there's nothing that ahuman can do about that,
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because this is part of ourcollective unfolding.
We're all going to be moreautistic at some point.
Carrie Lingenfelter (07:43):
Yes, I don't know if you've ever read
or heard any of Dolores Cannon.
Like some of the indigo childpieces and the star seeds and
all of that.
It's really interesting.
When I was looking back at it,they mentioned that the I think
they started seeing a first waveof indigo children around.
Like the I want to say it wasthe late fifties, early sixties
was the first round and then Iwas reading at one point that
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there's like indigo crystalrainbow, there's several
different eras and rounds, thateach round that came was
stronger each time because thefirst round couldn't do their
mission, that they were wanting,they had so much resistance,
yes, so then the next round hadto be stronger.
And I feel like that with myhusband and I, where we have
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that heightened sensitivity wehave.
We're both very gifted andtalented and also have a hard
time with attention sometimesourselves, because we are so
connected.
I used to always hear my momsay, like focus, we need to
focus, and it was because I waswoo all the time.
Even when I'm driving, I'm likeI need to focus.
So it was like this era that wecame.
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My husband and I came in in the80s and then I think we were
preparing to welcome in thisnext era that's coming now and
there's so much louder andstronger and more connected.
Kevin Young (08:58):
Yeah, that's beautiful.
I completely agree.
And, as you said, it can onlybe done to the increment that
society is ready to awaken.
And really it's why COVID camealong.
It's why the current politicalsituation is here.
We need disruption.
We need those fears pushed inour face to where we'll start to
look within.
Why am I being triggered?
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Why do I have a belief systemthat is holding me down?
It doesn't matter where you gotit, it comes from childhood.
So what, right?
What matters is the now moment.
What are you being triggeredabout and what are you going to
do about it?
Because it's not somebodyelse's fault that they push your
button.
It's your button hanging outthere and you want to have power
.
You want to take control ofthat again and find ways to
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become vibrationally impervious.
This is I've had this in anumber of channeling sessions
over the years because I'mthinking I want to reach more
people, I want to be morehelpful.
And they said well, guess what?
Some of the people who show upare going to not be so kind.
You want to reach a millionpeople.
You're not going to get amillion loving supporters
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Accepting yeah, ain't going tohappen, because I'm still not as
solid as I want to be and soall of last year I had an
illness and a bunch of thingswhere it was sort of that
tearing apart, of really facingsome of the real self-hatred,
self-loathing energies that Ihad all the way back to, you
know, young childhood.
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And now, of course, I was readyfor this piece.
I can feel the next piece isgoing to be.
I can already feel theresistance I have and the
beliefs I've got to work through.
And I'm having a sessiontomorrow with one of the people
actually in the group who's along distance medical, intuitive
, healing intuitive, who hasdone really wonderful work with
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my wife in the last couple ofweeks.
So I'm going to see her and shejust showed up from this group.
Again, you know, breadcrumbs, ifyou just let the thing that
lights up and you just go inthat direction and try not to
let the brain judge and theanswer is that we're here to be
supported and to move forward.
So I love that you and me andthese groups, we're out here on
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this leading edge where it'sscary and the unknown.
But when you know that you'resource energy, you know that
you're eternal, nothing canhappen.
The body's going to come and go.
We've been in lots of bodiesright, there's nothing going
wrong, and just chill out andalign and start practicing this,
and then we become the examplefor others.
We fill the cup up, we overflowto others, we radiate it, but
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we don't fall into theirnegative energy.
We maintain.
That's the difference betweencompassion and empathy.
Empathy goes into the negativefrequency, which doesn't help
anybody.
Compassion stays connected tosource, sends them love and
helps where they can if they'reasking for help and helping them
in the way that helps them beself-empowered.
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Not doing it for them, unlessthere's no choice, but rather
helping them work through theirstruggles so that they can come
into alignment with themselvesand be self-empowered, and so on
, and so on, and so on.
Carrie Lingenfelter (12:00):
I love the way you mentioned that we're
learning from them and they'relearning from you know it's like
an energetic exchange almost,and I feel like energetically in
our house.
And, for example, the othernight we've been suffering
illness here and there and myhusband was tired and he was
trying to brush my daughter'steeth and she was very emotional
and so he was gettingfrustrated and she was picking
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up his frustration andreflecting it back at him.
And it was just this, you knowthis thing, it was ramping up.
I'm like, okay, hang on, dad'sgoing to go wash the dishes for
a second, let me sit and chatwith you.
And I went in there with thiscalm, loving energy and she came
down you know from herheightened state that and she
started to reflect that calm,loving energy.
I was able to brush her teethand I was trying to show my
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husband later on like she'sreflecting what she's picking up
from you.
It's, it's really interesting.
Kevin Young (12:49):
Yeah, and when you can see that everything is a
reflection, we are creating thereality, we're living by what
we're sending out.
Everything, everyone, everyexperience, every event, every
circumstance is always areflection at the level that
we're sending out in the moment,and there's no judgment, it's
just a reflective mirror, 360,all the way around us and when
you can see the reflection.
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When you're not feeling good andyou're seeing something that
doesn't feel good, that'sbecause that's what you've been
doing, usually subconsciously,for long enough to where the
momentum build up to that yougot the reflection.
Carrie Lingenfelter (13:22):
Interesting .
Yes, that's really interesting,I think, as parents too, in
this.
Going through this, youmentioned, like the reflection
on ourselves of things that weneed to heal, and I'm trying to
take on 2025 as my year foracknowledging challenges as
moments to learn, my year foracknowledging challenges as
moments to learn, heal and growin.
What would you say about thatfor parents?
Kevin Young (13:44):
Well, there's never a time not to be doing that.
Carrie Lingenfelter (13:47):
For everyone, not just parents.
Kevin Young (13:53):
Yeah, and there are reasons for challenges.
We wouldn't have collectivelycreated a limited
third-dimensional reality,separation and lack and
limitation if there wasn't somemassive benefit to the broader
consciousness.
So everything has purpose, andso the purpose of channeling our
immense consciousness down intoonly three dimensions and in
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this little body is because itprovides a lot more variety from
which to choose.
You've got a lot more negativeextremes and there's a lot more
range to go positive, and so thepoint of existence is to seek
joy through expansion of our ownsoul, the things that are
important to us.
But you can't do that withouthaving choices.
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Discernment is everything, andso, as a society, we get really
hard on each other and ourselveswhen we do something wrong or
we make a mistake.
But there's no mistakes,there's just I'm just steering
the ship in another direction.
Oh, I hit the rocks over here,okay, well then that's not the
direction.
Okay, well, what does that tellme?
This is the direction over hereinstead.
So now I go in that directionfor a bit and hey, there's some
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more rocks.
But now I know about hittingrocks.
Okay, so now I can steer.
So nothing's going wrong, it'sjust we make it as soon as we
judge it going wrong, then nowwe're pulling our own energy
down and we're heading towardsthe rocks.
Everything's about chilling outand lightening up and just
enjoying the ride and not makinganything wrong or bad.
And in the moment of letting goof the judgment, which is
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usually self-judgment, then welighten up and now we're sending
out that energy and it'sreflected back, just as you did
with your child.
You intentionally find no wayto do this, carrie.
You probably got lots oftechniques how you can settle
that energy and become superpresent, and the reflection, as
you said, showed her how to doit.
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It was your daughter, right,you said?
Or your son, your daughter, andit also kind of amplifies
within you.
This is what works.
This is how it works and youcan create any environment by
that same process.
It's just coming into alignment, letting the brain off the hook
and just starting to trust thebroader consciousness flowing
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through us through streams ofpositive impulses.
Carrie Lingenfelter (16:04):
Wow, I feel like when my kids are in these
emotional states, watching, Ican feel like their spirit is
wanting to leave and I'm tryingto keep them in their body With
your granddaughter.
It sounds like you guys get ina physical state right Hitting a
beanbag.
Kevin Young (16:22):
Well sometimes, yeah, oh well, it's whatever.
It depends it depends, andthat's a matter for the child to
choose.
It's one of the things that wedon't do as a society very well.
We got this school systemkindergarten through 12, you
know, in the US and it's allabout telling the children
here's how you're supposed to be, here's what you're supposed to
learn, here's how you'resupposed to learn, here's when
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you're supposed to learn it.
Don't you dare make a decisionthat feels good to you, because
we will give you a bad grade andthen we'll put it on your card
and we'll give it to yourAnyways I'm kind of exaggerating
, but it's not that far off andthen we get into society,
governments and religions andbusinesses, and there's a very
similar kind of paradigm yourown guidance isn't good enough
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for you.
We've been around on this earthlonger a few decades longer
than you, so we know it's betterfor you.
And this is why they arerebelling.
They either rebel and become.
When they're about two or threeyears old, they start to get
that personality.
Well, let's just squash thatquickly before it gets out of
control.
And what that does is it saysyou know your own inner guidance
, your divine, broader self,isn't important enough.
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Our control is more important.
And why would anybody try tocontrol another?
Because they're in fearthemselves.
Control is about fear, and soit's one of the things that
Abraham I listened to theAbraham Hicks materials.
That's what really what startedwhen I had the brain tumor in
2008.
That's where my journey startedwas we got Abraham Hicks CDs
like the same week that I wasdiagnosed.
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So suddenly my journey openedup then, and that's one of the
things they talk about is youknow, yeah, you got to keep your
kids alive.
That's, that's your primary job.
But beyond that, beyond keepingthem alive, your job is to help
them discern and define theirown path, and this includes
learning.
No kid's going to go into five,six, seven, eight years old and
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not want to learn how to reador write.
If their friends are doing it,they will learn because they
want to be with their friends,they want to connect, they want
to learn the things that theywant to learn, but the
forcedness is what pulls themout of alignment.
And then again, we're trainingthem away from the one thing
that not only is going to keepthem alive, but it's going to
bring them joy and allow them toexpress themselves.
So to me it ends up whetherthey're neurodiverse or not.
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To me it's the same path.
What is it that you're beingcalled to do?
That somehow the environment'snot letting you do?
Let's see if we can help you todo what you're being called to
do in this now moment, becauseit could change five minutes
from now.
We'll do our best within thecontext of the family and what
other things are going on.
What I found with thegranddaughter is that I only
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have to do that a little bitwith her.
She's so used to being so manyactivities and here's how you
got to do this and that, and itdoesn't take very much long and
suddenly she just like all theenergy comes down and she gets
into creative, playful mode,cause she's not pushing against.
You know, she's not trying tofind her way out of the box
which society is kind ofstarting to put her in.
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I just let her, because I youknow, I don't have a job.
I do this kind of stuff, butthe rest of my time's free and
we can go to the park, we canplay in the backyard, we can
bake things, yeah, so it's again.
This is kind of an extreme wayof seeing it, but it applies
pretty much everywhere, and theneurodiverse are here to just
put a big, huge spotlight on it.
You can't suppress us withoutthere being a violent reaction
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because we're not going to benumbed the way the neurotypical
kids are.
We can't be.
Carrie Lingenfelter (19:47):
Have you heard of pathological demand
avoidance?
It's under autism.
Kevin Young (19:53):
I have not heard that term.
Carrie Lingenfelter (19:55):
It came from.
I think it came from England.
I don't know if manyprofessional psychologists are
using it, but they're putting itunder autism now.
And it's so interesting becauseit's basically and I might be
not totally right, because thisis not my expertise but the more
demands we're putting on thesystem, the more they want to
fight against it or rebelagainst it, or if there's too
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many demands, they can shut downor they can push against it.
And it's been so interestingbecause along our parenting
journey we always we would havepeople say you have to do it
this certain way, you have to doit this certain way, or you
know these expertise that wewould go to for help.
And if we really crack down orput something like you're in
timeout, you have to stay inthis one spot, my, my son would
just rage like, just like, no,you're not going to.
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So it's just interesting thatwe're now labeling it.
Kevin Young (20:44):
We got to do something because the obvious
thing is they're not ready.
Carrie Lingenfelter (20:47):
So many, we're not ready.
So it's really interestingbecause allowing them to be
themselves, but they I thinkthere is there's I don't know if
you've read any of, I thinkit's Dr Lisa Miller, I'm gonna
have to double check is thespirited child and spirituality.
Kevin Young (21:06):
Susie Miller maybe Susie Miller?
Carrie Lingenfelter (21:08):
No, no, not Susie Miller, it's a
psychologist at um call.
Uh, I have to look it up.
I'm going to look it up for you, Cause she she has a lot of
research on raising kidsspiritually and how spirituality
helps them in all areas ofdevelopment, when they're
spiritually connected, and it'sreally cool.
So she's a clinical researchpsychologist.
Kevin Young (21:30):
Nice.
Carrie Lingenfelter (21:31):
So I'll have to send you the book.
It's not Susie Miller, I knowwho that is from.
Telepathy Takes as well, yeah,so it's interesting.
So she was saying, likechildren are born conscious, as
we've been talking about, andthen teaching them the tools to
remain conscious, as we'retalking about as well, and it's
what I'm finding with my kids isthey can come back to being
conscious so much easier, asyou're describing, than adults
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can, right Cause they're not.
I haven't looked at theselevels.
I love this emotional scale,abraham.
Is that Abraham Hicks emotionalscale?
Kevin Young (22:04):
Well, yeah, abraham is the collective consciousness
that Esther Hicks channels.
Yeah, I'll send you theemotional scale.
Carrie Lingenfelter (22:11):
Okay, I would love to share that for
everyone because that's reallyinteresting to think about.
And I describe it as childrenas we're coming along, or what
happened with myself being sucha highly sensitive, connected
person.
And then I wasn't allowed toalways be.
In the 80s, we didn't know whatwe know now.
I wasn't always allowed to bethe highly sensitive person, or
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I wasn't allowed to be what wasthe term Brene Brown uses.
It's, oh, I can't remember Highneeds or high.
It wasn't high needs, it waslike you just need it.
You were too.
They needed too much energy orchange.
Right, you had to fit in thebox, you had to be quiet, you
had to be, be a good human.
You weren't allowed to beyourself, basically, and so
you're putting these layers ofonions, like onion layers of
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protection, upon yourself.
So then, when you get toadulthood, you're not connected,
you can't hear your heart.
You go through something majorlike becoming a parent and
you're trying so hard to readthe books, follow the rules, get
on the schedules, listen to theAAP, trying to do all these
things that you think you'resupposed to be, and you can't
hear your heart because you haveso many of those layers.
Kevin Young (23:19):
The brain is way too active.
That's why.
Yeah, and so that becomes thedifferentiating point.
If the brain, the humanconsciousness because we got the
two consciousnesses we have whowe really are, which is eternal
, and then we have the humanconsciousness which started at
birth, and this thing goes allover the place, right, that's
what we're trying to reel insometimes, and we can tell how
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far away it is from thisperspective by how we feel.
That's what the emotional scaleis, and so it's about bringing
our conscious focus, based onhow it feels, back into the same
place.
And then now there's noresistance, there's no, you're
not off the radio dial, you'reright on the station, and the
signal is clear.
Carrie Lingenfelter (24:02):
Okay, I have a personal question.
I want to know for myself, onceyou're connected.
My mom and I like to live inthis like we're like out here.
We're not in our bodies.
I'm guessing we probably needto ground ourselves in our
bodies because we're just goingthrough.
I'm forgetting.
Oh, I needed to go to thegrocery store today.
I was supposed to go to suchand such appointment, because
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it's so I love to be connectedall the time.
Where is that balance?
What do we need to do?
Kevin Young (24:29):
No, that's a brilliant question, probably one
of the best questions everasked.
Where is the balance point?
And it moves right.
But the way I've come to see itis that we came into a physical
body and a physical experience,to have a physical experience
in the body, but while stillconnected.
So it's the integration of bothand it's a and.
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The needle always is alwaysmoving, because our brain is
constantly chattering andchanging, and so you've got to
find the balance point yourselfand you won't keep it.
You got to find the balancepoint yourself and you won't
keep it.
People say how do I findalignment and then stay in
alignment?
I say it ain't going to happen,because that wasn't the point
of being here.
You're here to have the varietyand to go through the downside
so you can figure out what feelsbetter and come back into
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alignment, and in doing soyou're more empowered.
You're more clear about whatworks for you, you have better
idea of what to do next.
You then open the door for newthings to come in so you could
simply grounding is kind of ageneric word, but whatever the
grounding means to you, forinstance for me, I was before
this call.
After lunch I went out in thebackyard.
This is a gorgeous day in themid-60s here and still cool.
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So I just put on some likesweats but I took my shoes off
and just sat with my feet in theground, literally on the
physical ground, for about ahalf hour.
That's one way that reallybrings my attention down not
only into my body but right downinto the earth and that feels
really good to me and thatalleviates a lot of that.
But you can do things that aresensual.
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You can do things that aretouch, things that are breathing
, flavors and textures andtastes, anything that engages
the five senses in the bodywhile remaining connected.
So if you can find that state,carrie the two, where you're
sensory in the body and yet opento the guidance which is coming
through, then you're going tohave the best of all worlds in
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those moments and when you'renot there.
So you figure out how to getback.
Carrie Lingenfelter (26:21):
Yes, that's great.
Kevin Young (26:22):
Does that help at all?
Carrie Lingenfelter (26:23):
That totally helps my son.
When he was two he used to goaround and hug trees all the
time and I've heard touching atree is another way to grow.
Kevin Young (26:31):
I've done that, yeah.
Carrie Lingenfelter (26:32):
I love that .
Okay, so I have to ask you alittle bit about telepathy.
So so I've always been, morerecently, an intuitive.
Now, and if I, is this anexample of telepathy?
I have to ask you if I hearsomething from spirit or from,
like my grandmother, if I'm inthe shower and I'm washing my
hair and I hear something and Iknow it's her, is that aversion
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or is that something different?
Kevin Young (26:56):
Yeah.
So once again, the human needslabels to discern.
It does.
Yeah.
So once again, the human needslabels to discern.
And and those damn spiritualpeople?
Yeah, they don't.
They don't have labels, theydon't have names on the other
side of the veil, because theyknow each other by energy.
And so the names are for us andlabels are fine.
It helps us to create platformsto understand.
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But then, once we understand,then get into knowing that we
don't need the labels anymore.
So it's whatever works for you.
The way I look at it, just again, my computer brain wants to
really boil things down.
I think about this stuff everyday and find ways to simplify
the explanation so that peoplecan grab onto it and start
proving it to themselves.
Because I don't want you tolisten to my words.
For proof, you've got to go doit yourself.
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But that being said, there'sthe ocean of all consciousness,
which we're all streams off of,we're all different perspectives
, having different journeys, butnever disconnected from the
ocean, and that cannot bedefined in three-dimensional
terms.
It's higher dimension, it'smultiimensional in nature and
the human brain simply can'treally understand that.
We can feel it when we connectto it, but we can't understand
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it.
So I like to think that thebrain is usually pretty active
and so we're kind of down herein third dimensional reality.
But if we can, when we softenthat, then our frequency raises
and we get back up into thatcloud of consciousness.
Everything is in that cloud ofconsciousness, back up into that
cloud of consciousness.
Everything is in that cloud ofconsciousness, non-physical
consciousness, everything thepast, grandmother, her
consciousness is there.
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Everybody you've ever known isthere.
Source, energy, kind of thecore of all of it is there.
The angelic realm, the fairies,the people in the Pleiadian
star system, everyone has acomponent that's in this cloud,
and the only thing thatseparates the cloud cause
everything is here and now isfrequency.
It's a choice of where we focusour radio station.
(28:42):
So if you're tuned people whoare tuned to somebody who they
loved here in the physical thenyou have a net.
You know what their vibrationfeels like, and so when you
allow yourself to get up towhere the radio is letting go of
the fears and let, and you know, floating out through grounding
or whatever.
Now, it's just that you just setyour focus.
Oh, there's grandma.
Okay, I feel grandma's energy.
Open up to grandma's energy.
(29:04):
Don't let the brain say, ooh,is that really grandma?
Ooh, what should I be doingthis?
There are a lot of people whohave the old dogmatic religions.
It's like, oh, but what aboutevil spirits?
What if I connect?
How do I know?
It's my.
Well, you can feel right Ifyou're up in this range.
Evil doesn't live in thenon-physical range.
It's created down here in whatwe call thought forms.
(29:24):
It's kind of like a steppingbetween Humans.
Everything is created.
Yeah, evil stuff quote unquotedoes live around us, and
spiritually and physically.
But you will never experienceit unless you're tuned to it.
So yes, grandma is one channel Ilove connecting through people
and myself, sometimes throughcollective consciousnesses that
are really vibrationally veryfamiliar, the energy of Jesus,
(29:47):
the Yeshua collectiveconsciousness, as it was.
Jesus is strong and that's whoI invite in before my calls and
I feel them flood into my bodyand then I just I co-create with
them and that gives me thatguidance.
Telepathy is just a subset ofthat, where you're picking a
person or a collective of peoplewho are on the same frequency
to open up a channel to, andthen the thoughts are the same.
(30:10):
You're sharing thought.
You're not creating thethoughts.
The thoughts exist.
You're tuning to the thoughtsand then you share thoughts in
the non-physical realm.
That's essentially to me whattelepathy is.
So the work I do in theExploring Telepathy calls and as
private clients as well, isabout just chilling out and how
do we get up into that range?
And then channeling andconnecting is a lot easier when
(30:32):
you can do that part, so I dothis part mostly.
Carrie Lingenfelter (30:35):
Okay.
Kevin Young (30:37):
Get them up there.
Carrie Lingenfelter (30:38):
Who knows, if they stay up there, they'll
come out.
Kevin Young (30:40):
Well, you know, but you're teaching them how right.
Carrie Lingenfelter (30:42):
Well, yeah, and.
Kevin Young (30:44):
I help them through guided meditations and so forth
.
But the thing is that onceyou've tasted that like once
somebody wants to truly get intoa full-blown channeling state.
There's this immense flood oflove which goes through the body
, which brings people to tears.
Sometimes Some people call it akundalini awakening.
To me it's just opening up wideenough that that flood comes
through.
And once you've tasted thatnear-death experience same thing
(31:04):
Once you've tasted the purityof that immensity of love, then
you want to get back there andso you kind of become
self-driven to find your wayback.
Carrie Lingenfelter (31:14):
Oh man, do you there.
And so you kind of becomeself-driven to find your way
back.
Oh man, do you?
I've been learning, I've beenstudying so many things.
I'm in a ministry formetaphysics course right now,
and once you open that door it'svery ongoing.
Kevin Young (31:26):
Yeah, why wouldn't you want to feel good?
Carrie Lingenfelter (31:28):
Yeah, it's so amazing to find those pieces
and you know it's interesting.
The channeling that I started,the channel writing that I
started, it's definitelyintensified as it's gone through
it.
Now I cannot write fast enough.
I cannot, I cannot type.
I started trying to type, Imoved to typing.
That cannot go fast enough.
Now sometimes I just like readit into my phone because it
(31:49):
comes so fast.
Kevin Young (31:50):
Yeah, yeah, well, that was the same thing.
I did, automatic writing for awhile, but it would start to
turn into a blur.
I could, like my hand was justgoing across the page.
Yeah, and I was guided in sometime ago that they said you know
, your job is to speak it andthis is why I haven't really
written books.
I've got lots of material I'vedone in the past, but it's like
it's all old in the now moment,and I don't want to go back and
(32:13):
read it.
I don't want to write a bookbecause I'm going to be going
backwards Like I just want to dothis, what we're doing here, I
want to do that in a workshop, Iwant to do that with a client,
where I'm in the present momentand bringing through what wants
to come through me to whoever'scalling for it, and I won't put
up with less.
Carrie Lingenfelter (32:29):
Yes, I agree.
Yes, that's how the podcastended up starting.
Well, I can feel it.
Yes, that's how the podcastended up.
Kevin Young (32:33):
Starting was like how do?
Carrie Lingenfelter (32:34):
we get this ?
How do we get this out topeople?
Kevin Young (32:36):
Yeah, your energy is very bright.
That's one of the things Iimmediately knew when we
connected.
Some people have just like asun behind their head and you
kind of have that, oh,interesting.
Oh, thank you so much.
Carrie Lingenfelter (32:49):
Could be my grandma.
No, it's me, okay.
Yes.
So my grandmother that Iconnect with.
She was a special educator for32 years.
She taught and she worked witha lot of kids that she would say
they were in their bodies andpeople would say I can't help
them.
Other teachers would say Ican't help them, I don't know
what to do with them, send themto Yolanda.
(33:10):
And she would get in there andshe was a healer and she would
say I know you're in there, ba,I know you're in there and you
can hear me and I see yourenergy, I see your soul.
So she was way beyond that wasin the 60s and 70s and 80s yeah,
beyond her time.
Kevin Young (33:24):
So she was, yeah, one of the true leading edge
that you were talking aboutearlier.
How wonderful you had that asan example, sort of shining a
light in a direction that mightbe fun, and clearly you've taken
the baton and are running withit.
Carrie Lingenfelter (33:36):
That's what I'm hearing.
Yes, of course, and it's reallyfun.
I think one of the things thatI love that's coming about, this
evolution of humanity right nowI mean this evolution of ideas,
and I don't know what to callit even, it's so cool is just
understanding, finding thesestrengths in our kids and
empowering them for our kids.
So, like I've said in the past,like my kids have labels, we
(33:59):
don't use them.
I mean we do for medical piecesthat we have to here and there,
but we are empowering.
So I talk to my kids about, yes,sometimes we're extra sensitive
to light and noises and, oh mygosh, it's a superpower, like
you can see, you can pick up.
You can pick up somebody else'sfeelings.
And we talk about energy andprotection and protecting our
(34:20):
energy from others because, yes,we can take that home with us
without realizing it.
And so, having thoseconversations I had that
conversation with mysix-year-old she didn't realize
she was picking up the energyfrom her friend that was going
through some things and woulddrop it on my daughter, and so I
taught her if you start tosuddenly feel their sadness.
And so we did a golden whitelight of protection and said no
(34:45):
negative energy, this is not myenergy, it's not allowed in
right now, and she said she feltbetter, and so I'm trying to
help parents understand like wecan have these conversations
with our kids.
If we have those right now,when they're six years, seven
years, ten years old, can youimagine what's to come in the
next era?
Kevin Young (35:01):
Yes, exactly, you're giving them permission to
be themselves, essentially whatthey're guided to internally,
but they've learned to take onsome of the external, as you
said, the energy.
Yeah, and you're just remindingthem of who they are and that
it's okay to be who they are.
Carrie Lingenfelter (35:18):
Yeah, if everybody, every parent, could
do that, it would be magic itwould be magic, and I think also
you had mentioned having thesepieces that we come back to for
ourselves as parents too,because it can be so challenging
raising these kids in the worldthat is not necessarily
prepared to receive them yet.
Finding, finding the times tobe proactive as a parent,
speaking up, changing theirschools, which I did for my son
(35:39):
and my daughter.
We found a social, emotionalfocus school and they've just
blossomed in it.
It's what they needed, and sohaving that energy as a parent
and it can be hard to keep goingevery day and so having those
pieces for ourselves that we cancome back to is really
important.
Kevin Young (35:58):
Well, as you say, that's sort of the centering and
one of the things that I find,even in the telepathy tapes,
which is one of the mostpositive things I've ever heard
in my life.
It's so resonated.
There's still a small elementof I've got to prove this.
I've just got to get people tobelieve Brain Right.
And well, you know, I was thatway for many years.
I, you know, I had to provemyself to my parents and all
(36:18):
that stuff, and but the thing isthat the emotional scale
doesn't lie right.
Wherever you, whatever you'refeeling, as you just said, for
your kids, which was beautifulthat's also what you're sending
out and what will be reflectedback.
And so, if you want them to bemore effective and there's
nothing wrong with anyone beinganywhere doing anything,
everybody's on their journey ofexpansion and learning and it's
(36:39):
all perfect and if you want totake it to an even more refined
state, then let go of that piece.
Just do the thing that you'rebeing guided to do and you won't
get detractors, becausedetractors only come when you're
at a low vibrational state.
You will attract supporters themore you're in a supportive
state.
So this is just fine-tuningwhat you're already doing and
(37:00):
whoever's on this journey.
And if I could sit down with KaiDickens for five minutes, I
would say that's the one littlething that if you want to take
this to the next level, it wouldbe just stop trying to prove
things to other people and justdo it because it's a real thing.
And suddenly people say well,wait a second, all our kids are
behind.
Why are your kids so far ahead?
Why are they so happy and whyare they manifesting?
(37:20):
Because we didn't focus on whatwasn't working and proving
ourselves, because nobody'sgoing to get you anyway.
And the reality is that nobodycan get another person a hundred
percent.
It's just not possible becauseeveryone is unique unto the
universe.
So we let that go and justfocus more, get into the joy.
The expansion follow thebreadcrumbs, and the more we do
that then the faster it moves.
(37:41):
But again, there's no wrong way.
You're learning either way.
Carrie Lingenfelter (37:44):
Yeah.
Kevin Young (37:44):
Have fun.
Carrie Lingenfelter (37:45):
You know, I feel like she maybe felt like
she had to be the bridge,because even my husband, who is
an engineer, he's addicted totelepathy tapes right now and
he's more of the science spaceand he's listening.
He's listening.
He's like Carrie, she's sayingwhat you've been saying, she's
saying this, she's now hearingyou know these children, the
(38:06):
gifts.
She's talking about it, thembeing so connected, like wow,
and how did you know?
How did you know?
I'm like, well, if you didn'tbelieve what I was saying before
, I'm glad you now believe itbecause you're seeing it from
somebody else.
Yes, the science base wasproven, so I do understand that
piece and the people that areready to receive it will, even
without all the backup, totally.
Kevin Young (38:24):
And I totally believe that wherever somebody's
at and if they're doing theirpassion, there are people.
The passion comes from thecalling of the people that
they're going to affect.
This is something that reallychanged my life when I realized
my role is a conscious.
I call myself a consciouschannel.
Trans channel are one who gointo a trance, like Esther Hicks
.
Conscious channel I open up andthis is what you do, a lot of
(38:45):
us do.
When we are, wherever we're at,we get an excitement, something
we want to move forward with,particularly helping other
people.
We're sort of the.
We're the channel Source.
Energy sees where we're at.
It's always sending us guidancethrough those impulses,
positive impulses, intuition.
It's always there, just likeevery radio station is there,
(39:07):
but usually we're not listeningright, but then we get into that
state we were talking about.
We're now starting to feel thecalling of the people who are
ready to receive thatinformation but can't get it on
their own.
We're the channel, we'refeeling that energy through our
bodies of the people who areready to receive us where we're
at now, not in a year when weget a certificate, not in five
(39:29):
years when we've done Now.
If you're feeling it now,they're there now and so I tell
this to people who want to gointo business doing these
various kinds of spiritualhealing work you know you don't
need more experience, you don'tneed.
If you're feeling the callingnow, do it now, because there's
no wrong way to go.
Clearly felt her calling.
I mean it's just it radiatesall through her and she's
connecting with the people whoshe's ready to help, who are her
(39:52):
highest excitement.
I, who she's ready to help, whoare her highest excitement.
I'm looking at it from adifferent perspective.
I couldn't do what she does,but I can see that if and when
she wants to go to an even otherlevel, if she doesn't find it
herself, which she probably willthen letting go of the proof
side for her audience, whichwill come with her to that, not
needing the proof side, we'llthen rendezvous at that point.
So there's no wrong place to befor anybody.
Carrie Lingenfelter (40:16):
Yes.
Kevin Young (40:17):
And I wouldn't be here talking with you if it
weren't for her.
So I have the deepestappreciation for Kai Dickens and
all the work that she's done.
Carrie Lingenfelter (40:24):
Yep, yep, yeah, I love she's bridging
those pieces for so many people.
Kevin Young (40:29):
Let her be out on the front lines.
I like being here.
Carrie Lingenfelter (40:32):
Me too.
Yes, it was so beautifulbecause when I first started the
podcast, I was, I mean, I havethe evidence-based theory,
practice background and I didn'tput spirituality out there.
At first, it was like mindfulconscious, using these keywords
that weren't really out thereand my neck and everything my
body physically locked up untilI wrote spiritual on my website
(40:56):
and then everything released.
Kevin Young (40:58):
Wow, that is so cool.
So you really came intointegrity, into alignment with
yourself, by allowing yourselfto put that word out there.
Carrie Lingenfelter (41:07):
Yes, yes, yeah.
Kevin Young (41:08):
Well, I had the same when I learned law of
attraction 15 years ago.
Whenever that was 17 years ago,I wouldn't tell anybody.
This makes sense to me and I'mstarting to do it.
I'm starting to prove to myselfthat I do attract what I focus
on.
And we started holdingworkshops in our living room for
just a small group of people,and it expanded.
(41:29):
But I didn't even put it on myFacebook page for many years.
And then suddenly there wasthat like well, what am I afraid
of?
You know?
the mafia aren't going to comein the door, you know, and the
intellectual mafia, or whatever,you know.
Carrie Lingenfelt (41:43):
Science-based mafia.
Kevin Young (41:45):
Yeah, well then they wouldn't.
They couldn't because unless Iwas in fear and I realized I've
got to let go of my fear of thisso that I don't attract what I
don't want, what I'm afraid thatmight happen, I will manifest
if I continue down that path.
And so then the journey sincethen has been just what you're
inspired to put out, put out,and very seldom do I have
(42:05):
anybody who doesn't totallyresonate with it.
Once in a while I do, if I'mhaving a bad day, somebody will
jump in and just be all over mycrap and right in my face about
it, and then that means thatI've got something I've got to
heal, and so I pull away and Ilet it go, and then I get back
to the broader perspective.
Carrie Lingenfelter (42:23):
Beautifully put.
So, Kevin, I was going to askyou if you could tell, as we
conclude, if you could tell ourlisteners that are raising kids
today what's one thing you wouldlike to leave parents with
today.
Kevin Young (42:41):
I'd say you know just the reflection that they're
giving you to you.
If, as we've been talking about, if they are acting up and
you're feeling stressed about it, then it may not be originally
because of you.
They might've been stressedwith something else, but if
you're experiencing that stress,then you've got stress going on
and they're reflecting it backto you.
(43:01):
So do whatever works for you,like we were talking about.
There's a million things youcan do to find peace, get away
from the energy, come back intoalignment, and magic happens
when you do that.
Carrie Lingenfelter (43:10):
Well, I will include that Facebook group
we were talking about in ourshow notes.
Thanks so much for being heretoday.
Kevin Young (43:16):
Totally my pleasure , Keri.
Thanks so much for inviting me.
Carrie Lingenfelter (43:20):
Well, that's a wrap.
Thanks so much for tuning in.
Changemakers.
This is Keri, and if youhaven't done a review for us
five stars and a little fewwords about what you've enjoyed
in our podcast episodes, wewould really appreciate it.
If you guys would like to evermessage me, I would love any
questions you have or anyfeedback at info at
(43:41):
hearttoheartlifecom.
We also have a brand newwebsite which we're super
excited to share.
It's hearttoheartlifecom.
Thanks so much for tuning inand happy life, happy times.
Changemaker families.
Bye.
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