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Cold streaks don’t scare us; they sharpen the edges. We open with a hard look at last week’s 1–7 thud and why process, timing, and line movement matter more than one ugly card. From there, we light up our Stay Frosty segment with Kevin Stefanski’s job security and a deeper critique of talent evaluation in Cleveland, including how the Shadur decision became a public mess that bled into on-field results.

College football brings shock and opportunity. Indiana’s rise from decades of losing to Big Ten champions is more than a feel-good headline; it’s a case study in the right hire, NIL alignment, and cultural overhaul. Then we turn up the heat on Notre Dame’s playoff complaints. Head-to-head results, two losses, and the tight squeeze created by SEC and Big Ten weight tell a simple truth: join a conference or own the at-large gamble. If you care about futures and value, understanding these structural levers is the difference between chasing noise and owning the window.

The NFL slate is where market memory gets punished. The Chiefs look broken, the Bengals are effectively out, and the Bears lose by the hook in classic fashion. We break down why the Chargers plus the points in Kansas City has merit, why the Rams number still feels short, and why Miami offers sneaky value in Pittsburgh. We even entertain a delicious theory: Phillip Rivers’ comeback as a Hall of Fame clock reset while chasing Big Ben on the yardage list. Whether you buy it or not, narratives move numbers.

Bowl season strategy lands with a clear heuristic: fade the name brands when opt-outs and coaching churn sap motivation, and back programs like Boise State that treat the stage like a prize. We close with the card: New England as a live home dog, Miami to spoil a streak, group locks on totals and sides, and our flag-plant pick—Denver on the moneyline at altitude behind an elite defense. Ride the edges, not the logos. If this breakdown helped, follow, share with a friend who bets Sundays, and drop your lock in the comments so we can sweat it together.

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Andy (00:12):
Hey everybody, today is Friday December 12th, and we are
the Sportsbook Sharps.
We're back for another podcastthis week.
We are in week 15 of the NFL,and the college football
playoffs have been set.
We'll get to all of that here ina little bit, but let's start
with a recap like we always do.

(00:34):
You know, if you listen to thepodcast last week, I talked
about how we went 6-2 over theweek of Thanksgiving.
We followed that up with aunreal one and seven.
Yep.
Unbelievable.
I we just we cannot string twoweeks in a row.

(00:56):
Uncle John and I for the contestfor the year are tied still at
first.
We both missed our picks lastweek.
Every other member of thegambling group is under 500.
We are horrible this year.
Our overall record is 54 and 61.
Just unbelievably bad.
So but uh we're gonna jump rightinto it with our Stay Frosty

(01:21):
segment.
We got an update on a headcoach.
If you haven't kept up on socialmedia this week, you missed a
lot of activity.
Uh Wednesday, it was announcedthat Michigan, and this is not
our Stay Frosty, we'll have aFrosty one for you here in a
moment, but Michigan headfootball coach Sharon Moore was

(01:43):
fired for conduct.
Now, apparently, uh some of theinformation is still coming out.
We're not 100% on everythingthat happened, but he was
apparently having an affair.
He's a married individual.
He was having an illicit affairwith one of his assistants, a
female assistant that worked forhim.

(02:03):
Uh apparently she got pregnant.
Uh I don't it's unclear if heused his own funds or university
funds, but apparently he uheither paid for or encouraged
her to get an abortion.
Um it's very uh stillinformation coming out on it.
Um in fact, even Wednesday nightuh he was arrested.

(02:26):
Apparently he threatened the theI don't know if there's an
official police report out atthis time, but he threatened uh
his wife and said that he wasgoing to harm himself, and then
he drove over to the uhassistant's house or apartment
or whatever it was, herdwelling, broke into the place
and threatened to kill her andhimself.

(02:47):
Uh just tragic.
Uh no harm was done.
Luckily, the police got thereand arrested him and calmed the
situation down.
But he has lost his job.
He was arrested.
There's a mugshot of him online,and I think the full police
report might be out now on him,but uh just unbelievable,
unbelievably sad.
Uh I've actually met the manbefore uh in 2022.

(03:11):
We went to a friend'sco-worker's wedding, and he was
at the event.
Uh, Darby reminded me we weretalking about it Wednesday
night, and she's like, Didn't wemeet him at this wedding in the
summer of 2022?
And I'm like, I don't think so.
Like, I don't, I think you'rethinking of somebody else.
And no, sure enough, it was him.
We met him.
Uh the groom and him workedtogether at Central Michigan, so

(03:33):
just unreal, this story, uh, andtragic and sad.
And so Michigan is looking for ahead coach, but not for the
normal reasons.
So just wanted to give an updateon that.
It joins a long list of programsin college football that need a
head coach.
But for this week's Dave Frosty,it's got to be in the NFL, and

(03:56):
it's got to be Brown's headcoach, Kevin Stefansky, for
multiple reasons.
I have three reasons here foryou.
One, he's been in Clevelandsince 2022.
How long do you get to be a headcoach in the NFL with just
mediocre results?
They've had very mediocreresults.
Now, they've been to theplayoffs twice.

(04:19):
The only reason I'm thinkingthat he's keep kept his job as
long as he has this year is twotimes in Cleveland is like 15
times in most areas.
So I two times in Cleveland isactually pretty good.
But the uh just five years is along time for anybody that's had

(04:40):
a couple of seasons in a row.
Uh this leads me to parts twoand three.
Two is uh last year and thisyear's results.
Three wins last year, three winsthis year.
I I don't know if they'll pickup a fourth win.
There's only four games left.
They do not look very good.
Uh they might get one, but in adown year in the AFC North, it's

(05:04):
a very bad year.
You gotta figure out a way towin more than three games.
The leader of the AFC Northright now, if you didn't know,
is Pittsburgh at seven and six.
Seven and six is winning adivision right now.
You gotta compete in that kindof conference.
You cannot, if if you're gonnabe a coach that's been in a
program uh uh NFL program forfive plus years, and then he's

(05:28):
next year will be a sixth yearthere, you you have to compete
in years like this.
If you don't strike this year,when is Cleveland ever going to
strike?
Uh they seem to be trending inthe totally wrong direction, and
I think that's enough to get himfired.
But then finally, reason numberthree, I think this is the
biggest reason to fire him.
He lacks an he has a totalinability to understand and

(05:50):
assess talent.
I'm not a very pro-ShadorSanders guy, but look, he looks
a thousand times better than JoeFlacco, he looks a thousand
times better than Dylan Gabriel.
The way that Stefansky's handledthis whole Shador thing has been
a media nightmare since day one.
They made him third string, theydidn't give him reps, the media

(06:12):
was you know questioning allthis stuff, questioning Shador,
questioning all these things whyhe doesn't get a play.
Uh and and Shador's outplayingthose other two quarterbacks.
Flacco was so bad that theytraded him away to an in-state
rival that's in the north, andDylan Gabriel, he just straight
up stinks.
He shouldn't even, he shouldn'teven be a backup quarterback in

(06:34):
the NFL.
He's terrible.
I'd have watched way too manyDylan Gabriel games.
Uh they need to fire him andbuild around Shador and try to
make him QB1 for next year andsee what happens.
And I'm not saying that Shador'sgonna be some great quarterback
that's gonna save Cleveland, buthe's way better than what they
had.
And that's the head coach's jobto see that.

(06:57):
I mean, I don't I don'tunderstand why it took until a
week ago.
Shador started two games now.
I don't understand why it tookthat long to move to him.
They've been terrible allseason.
They were they had two wins.
Uh he needs to stay frosty.
Alright, other than the Michigancoach situation, no more coaches

(07:19):
fired this week.
So it's like I said, it's been alot of coaches this year, um,
but nothing more to add.
Let's get into a recap for thecollege football season.
The season is over.
Indiana is king of collegefootball, and as a Purdue fan,
it makes me sick.
I am beside myself.

(07:41):
I'm jealous, I'm envious, sure.
But I I you know I don't hatetheir head coach uh Signetti,
Coach Sig.
Uh I don't know if it's Purdue'stotal lack of even fielding a
competitive football team orwhat, but I I was kind of happy
for IU to see him win the BigTen.
I thought that was very neat.

(08:02):
A bunch of my family was at theevent.
Uh, my brother andsister-in-law, a couple of my
uncles, uh a cousin.
Like it was pretty cool.
That's cool.
I'm glad they're all IU people,IU fans.
Many of them went to IU.
My two uncles and brother andsister-in-law, they went to
Indiana University.
So I think it's cool.
Look, uh I had a lot of funthree years ago.

(08:24):
You know, Darby and I, my wifemade the decision to go watch
the Big Ten Championship game,Purdue.
Uh, this was back when they hadthe West and the East Division,
uh, Purdue versus Michigan.
And I said to Darby, you know,we waited up until I think the
Thursday before the Big Tenchampionship game, and I'm like,
the prices are prettyreasonable.

(08:47):
This is probably it.
Like, I, you know, I'm gettingin my late 30s, but I don't know
if I'll ever see Purdue.
Once they get rid of thesedivision things, I don't know if
I'll ever see Purdue play in theBig Ten football championship
again.
Uh, I never thought at the timethat Indiana would ever play in
one.
Uh, they were stuck over in theEast with, if you remember the

(09:07):
way the East was laid out, Ithink it was Ohio State and
Michigan and maybe evenWisconsin or somebody, or uh uh
Penn State was over there.
That was East was absolutelyloaded.
The West, there were many yearsthat a mediocre to good team won
the West.

(09:28):
Um, but once the divisions weregoing, I knew that was gonna
happen.
Anyway, let's get back to IU.
Talk too long there aboutPurdue.
It I think it's nice because uhagain, bringing Purdue back up,
Purdue and IU historically havebeen big underdogs in football.
Uh, and Purdue had some successin the 2000s with Drew Brees,

(09:49):
some of the other quarterbacksthat were there.
But it it's nice to see programslike uh Purdue or in Indiana
beat out the OSU in other SECschools.
Uh Purdue never was a number oneteam.
Uh, it's very cool to seeIndiana ranked number one.
That's I mean, they don't make abigger Cinderella than Indiana.

(10:10):
I'm gonna give you some statshere.
Uh this is a school that from1995 through 2018 they had one
winning season, and that was aseven and six season in 2007.
For more than twenty years,their best year was seven and

(10:31):
six.
That's what I mean.
This is big time, Cinderella.
18 year eighteen years, eighteentimes during that, they uh won
two or less Big Ten games, andtwice they won zero Big Ten
games.
Even right before Signetti gotthere.
Like if you're thinking, oh,they made the right hire and

(10:52):
they were starting to buildsomething.
No.
Even I mean, they made the righthire, but they were not building
anything.
They were they had to get a newguy in and start over.
Uh, right before Sig got there,uh in the 21 through 23 seasons,
they were uh Indiana was two andten, zero and nine in the Big

(11:13):
Ten, four and eight, two andseven in the Big Ten, and three
and nine the season before hetook over, they were one and
eight in the Big Ten.
So it's nice to see that makingone coaching change can totally
turn around a program.
Uh gives hope to all those otherschools out there.
Like, if you just make the righthire and you put some NIL money
behind him, you can make a bigchange.

(11:35):
Uh congrats, Indiana, andgetting to play in only their
second ever Rose Bowl.
The first Rose Bowl since 1967.
So congrats, Indiana.
Uh, speaking of Indiana schools,there was another big school
from Indiana that made the newsthis uh past week, and that
would be the folks from SouthBend, Notre Dame.

(11:59):
What a bunch of big whinybabies.
They didn't get into the collegefootball playoff, and they are
big mad about it.
They cried and complained itwasn't fair, they threw a big
fit, and then they cried abouthow fair unfair it was that the
ACC, uh, the ACC was unfair tothem, you know, the media, the
ACC media wasn't nice to us,ESPN was mean to us, they oh,

(12:23):
they replayed our our gameagainst Miami all week where we
lost and it and it tainted theminds of the voters and all this
stuff.
Uh get over yourselves, allright?
Uh you want to be in the collegefootball playoff, maybe don't
lose two games.
How about that, huh?
Back in the BCS day, there werea lot of time uh undefeated or

(12:45):
one-loss teams got left out.
Um and then even in the collegefootball playoff, there were
many years that one-loss schoolsgot left out when there were
only four teams in the collegefootball playoff when it first
started.
So you were whining yourtwo-loss team, uh, don't lose
two games, and you're in.
Uh there this year alone, therewere one-loss schools, BYU, and

(13:07):
missed out.
So, like, I don't know what totell you, man.
Uh, one-loss schools miss outsometimes.
You're a two-loss school, don'tlose two games.
Uh, the ACC was pretty bad thisyear.
I know they're not in the ACC,but they play like five ACC
games every year because oftheir weird contract.
Uh, only Miami made it from theACC as an at-large bid.
Not even their champ made it.
So that's how much disrespectthey have.

(13:29):
It's the top four rankedconference champs that make it,
and Duke won their conferencechampionship.
I think they were seven andfive.
I talked about it last week.
Seven and five Duke won.
They beat Virginia, and becausethey weren't ranked, uh,
actually another school jumpedup ahead of them.
So uh there's only 12 schools inthe college football playoff

(13:50):
Notre Dame.
Uh, and ESPN has to try hard andpush their SEC narrative all
year long, and they try to cramin as many SEC schools.
So you're fighting in an uphillbattle.
Uh maybe join a conference.
I don't know.
They SEC got in five, Big Tengot in three, that's eight
schools.
There's only four openings left.

(14:12):
Two of those openings went toconference auto bids.
So you only have two spots forNotre Dame.
One went to Tulane, one went toMiami.
You know, here's a novel idea.
Maybe if Miami uh and Notre Dameuh played each other, we could
use their head-to-head record toget the team in.
Oh, oh wait, they did play?

(14:32):
And Notre Dame lost?
Oh, well then of course Miamigoes ahead of them.
They have the same record.
I you put them in.
You played on the field, Miamibeat you.
How silly would that look ifNotre Dame was in the same
record Miami and that, and theypulled one school and they said,
okay, that you guys playedhead-to-head, but we're going to

(14:52):
take the team that lost.
I don't get it.
You went in the college footballplayoff, win all your games, or
heck, even only lose one game,because a one loss Notre Dame
gets in almost every singleyear.
That would be unbelievable ifthey didn't get in with one
loss.
Or, and here's a clue that 120plus other schools have figured

(15:13):
out.
Join a conference.
Four conference winners get in.
You know what would havehappened had you actually been a
full member of the ACC?
You would have played in theconference championship against
Duke.
So fully join them.
You played Virginia and beatVirginia, or maybe if you even
made the conference championshipand narrowly lost or lost in

(15:35):
overtime to Virginia orsomething, maybe you still get
in over Miami because they liketo not hold the conference
championship loss against theteam as a loss.
So if you're in the fullconference and you play in the
game, I uh maybe you would havegot in.
I don't know.
Uh but them crying, now they'renot going to play in any bowl
games.
Who cares?
We we won't miss you.

(15:55):
We we don't miss you.
Uh good riddance, Notre Dame.
Uh I'm glad I don't have towatch you again this year.
Uh we'll talk more collegefootball playoff in the future
episodes.
No games this weekend forcollege football playoff.
Uh, but I gotta say, five SECschools is too many.
I got that's my last comment onthis whole thing.
Uh, we need to cap theseconferences out somehow.

(16:17):
I don't know or if we expand, Idon't really want to expand, but
if they expand, then maybe wecan leave five in.
But three or four, I think, is agood number.
I I don't know what the numberis.
Three or four.
Um if you finish fifth in yourconference, you're not worthy.
Like, I I would have put BYU inbefore Oklahoma.
I I'd rather have the secondbest Big 12 school in than the

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fifth best SEC.
And I know some people that'ssacrilegious to say that the
10th SEC school couldn't goundefeated.
Oh, and hypotheticals they couldgo undefeated in the Big 12.
Whatever.
Like, you finish fifth in yourconference, you shouldn't be in
a college football playoff.
The college football playoff issupposed to be the best 12
schools, and you're a fifth inyour own conference, get out of

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here.
Alright.
NFL talk recap from last week.
Biggest NFL story of the week.
The Colts lose again.
They lose quarterback DanielJones for the season.
But the biggest part of thestory is that they sign a
retired, for many years,quarterback to replace him,

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Phillip Rivers.
He is 44 years old and agrandfather and has come out of
retirement for one last run.
I I love this.
It's literally the plot forRocky Balboa, the sixth Rocky
movie.
Rocky's been retired for years.
He comes out of retirement forone more fight.
I hope that Rivers starts thisweekend and I hope that he beats

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Seattle.
They're like a 14-point underdogon the road.
I hope that happens.
Uh update on the Kansas CityChiefs.
The Chiefs are dead.
They are not making theplayoffs.
R.I.P.
in peace, the Chiefs.
They lose to the Texans by 10 athome.

(18:07):
They look beyond broken.
I'm officially calling it.
I said last week, let me see ifyou know if they can beat the
Texans, they can go on this run,they could win.
I it wouldn't have surprised meif they won five in a row.
They just rolled over last week,lost by 10 at home.
They're done, cooked, finished.
They would need an absolutemiracle the last four weeks to

(18:27):
make the playoffs, and I don'tthink I don't think they have it
in them to win four games in arow.
This doesn't look this is a veryflawed team.
I I it's unbelievable.
I I I've not seen a team dropthat has been to so many Super
Bowls.
You know, maybe New England, butI don't even think they dropped

(18:48):
off that much.
They had some years where TomBrady got injured.
They had other things.
Like Mahomes didn't really getinjured this year.
I I just I don't I don't get it.
On paper, they look verysimilar.
They're just a year older, butlike, you know, I've talked
about this a lot on the podcast.
They're very surprising thatthey're not going on that run.

(19:08):
You know, I talked about it atthe Thanksgiving Cowboys game.
They didn't have that run at theend of the game that they're
traditionally always have.
They're just they're broken.
Uh yeah.
Uh the Bears lose by seven atLambo.
My lock, of course, was Bearsplus six and a half.

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Absolute heartbreak.
Look, I get it.
Lambo, Green Bay, tough place towin.
Uh, and Green Bay looked good.
Just wildly disappointed becauseof the way it ended, too.
The Bears were driving downseven, got into the red zone,
but didn't score.
I think Calen Williams on fourthdown ended up throwing a pick or
something, or as the clockexpired, threw a pick.

(19:49):
It didn't matter.
Uh the time was up, or the itwas fourth down.
I can't remember what thesituation maybe both.
Uh they probably would have gonefor two.
I think uh I think.
Ben Johnson, their coach, Ithink he's a guy that goes for
two there.
He doesn't want to go intoovertime at Lambeau, so I think
it would have covered.
They either get the two and win,or they miss the two and lose by

(20:12):
one.
I would have covered, but justsuper disappointing.
Speaking of teams that are done,like the uh Chiefs, the Bengals
are done.
Uh lost to Buffalo after beingup ten in the fourth quarter.
I don't think mathematicallythey're done, but they're
they're done.
They're all but eliminated.
They're down three games withfour to go.

(20:32):
I think if they were to win outand like they would need
Pittsburgh to lose out, becauseI don't think they have the
tiebreaker with Pittsburgh.
Like, there's so much that hasto happen.
I think on paper, technically,they're not eliminated, but
they're eliminated.
They're done.
Um another game, a Denver game.

(20:54):
If last week you had on yourcard Denver minus 7.5, I feel
bad for you.
I had it in my little weeklylocks pick that my wife and I
do, but thankfully I didn't havemoney on it.
I didn't have it on my gamblingcard.
Denver's up ten with like 58seconds to go.
Las Vegas gets the ball back 58seconds to go.

(21:16):
I'm sorry, yeah, Denver up 10.
58 seconds to go.
Las Vegas gets the ball.
They're out of timeouts.
Five seconds left.
They've driven part way down thefield.
They hit a pretty long pass.
I'm not sure exactly where theyget down to the 33-yard line.
Five seconds left, out oftimeouts.
The Denver player that tackledthe receiver bats at the ball in

(21:39):
his hand and it pops loose alittle bit.
The ref throws the flag, callsdelay a game, decides on that
play to call delay of game onthe defense.
It stops the clock, and ofcourse, Las Vegas, down 10,
decides to kick a game-endingfield goal.
And of course they hit it rightdown the middle.

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Good distance, everything.
Unbelievably bad beat.
I cannot believe that the refthrew the flag there for delay
game.
The guy was like pushing him offof him on the pile, and he just
kind of like swatted a littlebit at the ball and it jarred
loose.
I couldn't believe it.
I could not believe it.
The game should have been over.
They should have won by 10.
Uh terrible bad beat.

(22:23):
Monday night football.
Chargers 22, Eagles 19 andovertime.
Now, this was not a good game.
It was a close game, but it wasnot a great game.
We watched all of it.
My wife and I.
Those two offenses stink.
Turnover City.
Jalen Hurts is a bum.

(22:43):
The Eagles are hard to watchthis year.
He had four picks.
One of them he sailed he sailedit so high above A.J.
Brown.
AJ Brown on a crossing route.
AJ Brown catches almosteverything.
Brown had to jump almost eightfeet in the air just to get a
fingertip on it.
He was wide open.
If Hertz even throws thatanywhere near him and he hits

(23:08):
him in stride, he probably picksup an easy 30 to 40 yards
because he was wide open.
I don't know what Hertz wasdoing there.
He scaled it way over him.
The Eagles, they have a realproblem.
Their offensive line doesn't runblock well, and Hertz stinks.
He's not a good quarterback.
I've said this last year.
I said that they were a mirage.
I didn't think they'd win theSuper Bowl.
I said they got hot late.

(23:29):
This happens sometimes withteams.
Sometimes they just get on aroll and win a Super Bowl.
I mean, it happened twice.
Look at those two Giants teamsthat beat the Patriots in the
Super Bowl.
The Giants, if you look at Eli'scareer there, they're not very
good.
They barely made the playoffsmost years.
I think they missed the playoffsmore than they made it.

(23:51):
Just two years they got on awild card spot and just got on a
hot streak at the end of theseason and won a Super Bowl.
And I feel like the Eagles arethat kind of situation.
Hertz sucks.
He's not a good quarterback, andI don't think he'll ever win
another Super Bowl.
He's a bum that rode SaquonBarkley last year.
They had a great offensive linelast year, and he rode Saquon to

(24:14):
a Super Bowl.
The Eagles are going to make theplayoffs because that division
that they play in the NFC Eastis terrible.
The Cowboys would have to.
The Eagles would have to losetwo out of their last four, and
the Cowboys, I think, would haveto win out.
Or the No, the Cowboys wouldhave to go three-and-one, I
think.
Cowboys could go three-and-one,Eagles go two and two, or the

(24:34):
Eagles could go.
No, wait, that's not right.
If they go two and two, theCowboys have to win out.
If they go one and three, theCowboys have to go just three
and one.
Anyway, not much hope in Big Dfor a playoff appearance.
Uh they need a lot of things togo right.
But you know what?
If the Eagles keep playing likethis, maybe it's a possibility.

(24:56):
The Cowboys have the Vikingscoming up this week.
Uh oh, I don't know.
We'll see.
Um that's gonna do it for therecap part.
Now we're gonna get into the oldman yells at cloud.
But this week, I have no old manyells at cloud.
But what I do have is aconspiracy theory for you that

(25:19):
is absolutely incredible.
And I found this on Twitter.
So let me just pull up uhconspiracy theory.
Here we go.
Let me just pull it up here.
Uh grab that roll of Reynoldswrap.
It's uh tinfoil hat time.

(25:40):
This is a conspiracy theorybrought to you by at for whom J.
Bell tolls.
Jeff Bell.
Um conspiracy theory.
This is about uh Philip Rivers.
Philip Rivers knew he was in atough spot on the Hall of Fame
ballot.

(26:01):
Drew Brees, Eli Manning, andRivers are all semifinalists.
Breeze is a lock.
Eli has postseason success andthe Manning name and two Super
Bowls.
Next year, Rothesberger becomeseligible.
Numbers, postseason success,Super Bowls, and then it's Tom
Brady, who's an absolute lock,and Matt Ryan up on the Hall of

(26:21):
Fame ballots.
Then it's a big cliff.
Rogers and Stafford are comingup.
Otherwise, it's unlikelythere'll be any quarterback up
for the Hall of Fame untilMahomes or Allen retire and
they're up for it.
Rivers is 648 yards behindRothlisberger.
He can grab one more shot atpostseason success, pass

(26:45):
Rothlisberger in the process,and add a crazy final chapter to
his story while also resettinghis clock and having less
competition on the Hall of Fameballot.
Rivers could stay retired andrisk sitting on the ballot for
multiple years, and by thenpeople are really gonna start
asking, like, okay, he's been onthe ballot so many times, should

(27:06):
he really be in?
He was fifth all time in passingyards when he retired.
Now he is seventh.
Matthew Stafford is 277 yardsaway from passing him, so he's
almost gonna fall to eighth.
And Rivers is 650 yards behindRothelsberger.
So if he plays in a couple gamesthis year, gets those yards,

(27:26):
jumps ahead of Big Ben there.
Uh, just hilarious that this guythinks that this is actually a
way for him to reset his Hall ofFame ballot clock and push it
back five years when there's notas many quarterbacks of fame
going up for the Hall of Fame.
So just an incredible, like Isaid, you gotta kind of have
your tinfoil hat.
I don't think he probably waseven thinking of that when he

(27:48):
came out of retirement.
He's probably thinking thiscould be my shot.
The Colts are very good.
If I can be even mediocre atquarterback, we might make some
noise, maybe even get to a SuperBowl.
He never played in the SuperBowl, he played in one AFC
championship.
So I don't know.
Alright, time to talk about someof the big games this week.

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College football bowl season ishere.
There's only one game thisweekend: the LA Bowl, Boise
State, and Washington.
Washington is a nine and a halfpoint favorite.
Um, in this day and age, bowlgames are very hard to pick.
Uh my general rule of thumb isto pick against the heavy
favorites and the big nameschools.

(28:32):
Um, a lot of those big nameschools have a ton of players
that sit out, you know, the bigSEC schools, the big 10 schools
with the transfer portal andeverything.
There's so many coachingchanges.
Uh kids just don't want to playin these games, especially
people that are earning multiplemillions of dollars in NIL
money, they don't want to playin this game.

(28:53):
Even if they stay at theuniversity, they don't want to
risk you know getting hurt andlosing out on that all that
future money.
So and there's really uh withthe all the coaching changes,
there's not a focus on thesebowl games like there used to
be.
Um I uh but I also almost alwayspick Boise State.

(29:14):
Uh so I will I will take them asbig dog underdogs here.
Uh almost 10-point underdogs,nine and a half point underdogs.
I'm gonna take uh Boise State,but that's it.
That's the only bowl game youget this weekend.
So on Saturday, enjoy it.
Uh Cleveland at Chicago.
If speaking NFL now, Chicagoseven and a half point

(29:37):
favorites.
This is a one o'clock game.
But the rumor is, I guess 12 inChicago, you could see with the
wind chill temperatures of minustwenty.
That is a darn cold game for oneo'clock.
I can't even imagine if it waslater in the day when the sun
was down, how cold it would bethere.

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I love the Bears here.
I think they bounced back, uh,like I said last week, they
barely missed it, and theymissed it by half a point.
Uh Cleveland's season's over.
Uh, you know, I put their headcoach up on Stay Frosty.
I think that Cleveland just kindof goes through the motions with
the players, trying not to gethurt these last four weeks.
It's gonna be super cold.
They're on the road.
Cleveland, like uh Cleveland'sgonna just kind of pack it in,

(30:20):
get out of there as fast as theycan and get warm.
I I think the Bears roll here.
Um I like the Bears a lot.
Chargers at Kansas City, KansasCity minus five and a half.
Um I said earlier Kansas City'sdone.
I I don't Chargers just beat theEagles.

(30:43):
Eagles and Kansas City bothdon't look as good as they did
last year.
I I don't understand it.
So the Chargers just beat theteam that beat Kansas.
I I don't I know it's adifferent year, but like they
just took care of businessagainst the Eagles.
The Eagles are looking better, Ithink, than Kansas City.
I I I think they cover here.
I don't know if I don't know ifthe Chargers win.

(31:03):
It's at Kansas City.
I'm always hesitant to pick uh,you know, moneyline dog at
Kansas City.
That's a tough one to do.
Um but I I I would I'm pickingChargers plus five and a half
here.
I don't think they I don't thinkKansas City covers that.
You know, I'm gonna say all thisstuff.
I'm gonna say I'm gonna be theone that you could take a clip

(31:26):
of this, uh, you know, KansasCity's dead, Kansas City's done,
all this stuff, and then they'regonna rip off four in a row and
somehow make the dang playoffsand and make it to the Super
Bowl.
This is just what's gonnahappen.
But I think they're done.
I think they I don't know if theChargers win this game or not.
Air Bear, he's he didn't lookvery good Monday night.
He's got like a broken lefthand.
It's not his throwing hand, butI don't I don't know if Kansas

(31:50):
City uh covers five and a half.
That's an awful lot.
I think the Chargers cover.
We got a big matchup here.
Buffalo at New England.
New England home dogs plus oneand a half.
They only have lost two gamesthis year.
I I don't get the line.
Uh New England's only lost twogames.
They've looked very good.

(32:11):
I I think they win this game.
I don't get their home dog.
I think you pick them moneyline.
Don't mess around with thepoints.
I think New England wins thisgame.
Uh, this was almost my lock.
Um Buffalo has looked very upand down at times this year.
Even uh needed a comeback athome against the Bengals last
week.
They were down 10 in the fourthquarter to the Bengals at home.

(32:31):
Uh Drake May's been very good.
I I think New England wins bymore than four here.
If you want to do the alternateline thing, you could do that.
I I think if you're just lookingto bet something quick, New
England moneyline.
I think that's your play on thisone.
Detroit at the Rams.
Rams minus six.

(32:51):
Um The Rams have looked like oneof the best teams in football.
Uh they've won seven in theirlast eight.
Uh the Lions in their last fourhave been uh win in overtime at
home against the Giants, loss tothe Packers at home, uh beat the

(33:13):
Cowboys without CeeDee Lamb.
I I'm not impressed.
Wait, I said their last four, Igave you three games.
I don't know, I didn't take theright stats there.
Uh that was their I guess Imissed a game there.
Anyway, uh they've been verychoppy, is my point.
Um you need overtime to beat theGiants.

(33:34):
You lose the pack, and you beatthe Cowboys.
Okay, big whoop.
Uh the Cowboys defense revertedback to its first three weeks of
defense.
I'm not impressed.
Uh I think the Rams roll themhere.
I this was again another one.
I was like, oof.
Six.
I think they roll him.
I think they beat him by morethan six.
Uh Sean McVeigh is a very goodcoach.

(33:56):
I uh I like it.
I think they win by more thanthat.
Uh Miami at Pittsburgh.
Yenzers minus three and a half.
Uh I love Miami here.
I think they win.
The AFC North can't have a winstreak on any of its teams.
None of its teams can seem tostring together two wins in a
row.

(34:16):
Uh the Steelers won last week,so that's my thought process.
I think that the AFC North isdestined to try and get a
division winner in the playoffsat eight and nine.
I the Steelers won last week.
I think they lose this week.
I think it's just like you gottajust flip-flop it back and
forth.
You can't even flip-flop it ifit's a loss.

(34:36):
It's not even a guaranteed winbecause they've many times lost
two in a row.
But I don't know if hardly anyof those teams in the North have
won two games in a row thisyear.
It's unbelievable how choppythey are.
Uh also, Miami, they might bethe most quiet six and seven
team I've ever seen in mylifetime.
If I had if you had told me thatMiami were three and ten, I

(34:58):
would have believed it.
But they're not, they're six andseven.
Six and seven, as the kids wouldsay.
Uh yeah, I I could have believeduh two and eleven, three and
ten.
If you told me any of thosethings, I would have been like,
yeah, that sounds about right.
Miami's not very good this year.
No, they're six and seven.
Uh no way did I think they werenear 500.

(35:18):
I put Mike McDaniel up on StayFrosty in like week three, week
four.
Uh he might save his job again.
If if he ends up pulling out,they're not gonna make the
playoffs, but if he gets if hegets them to eight or nine wins,
I don't know.
He might he might save his job.
So I I think I wouldn't besurprised at all if Miami wins
this game.

(35:38):
So that's what I think you playthere.
We got a couple of the locks forthis week.
We've got uh these are our locksfor the week.
Bengals, Ravens, under 51 and ahalf.
That came in from Greg.
He said it's gonna be sloppyJoe, uh, bad weather.
Take the under in the badweather, is what he's saying.

(36:01):
I tend to agree with that.
Uh Ethan's giving us Carolinaminus three at New Orleans.
Um yeah, I've been hot and coldon Carolina this year.
I was very hot betting againstthem at the beginning of the
year.
Then they kind of woke up andand you know, I was like, oh,
now you gotta flip it and betwith them.

(36:22):
So uh and then they've kind ofcooled, they've kind of gone
choppy here in the middle again.
Um I I mean, I think I backedthe minus three.
It's at New Orleans, oh man,it's always so tough though to
do that at New Orleans uh win onthe road in New Orleans.
That's a very tough dome to winin, but the Saints aren't very

(36:43):
good this week, or this week,whether not very good this year.
Um but they did pull off theupset on the road last week uh
at Tampa.
I that's what makes me hesitantabout this one.
I almost say stay away from thisone because I don't know.
I don't know what Carolina teamis gonna show up.

(37:03):
The Panthers were on a bye.
You know what?
The Panthers were on a bye.
I change it.
Not a stay away game.
They've rested up.
I think they're focused, they'reready to make this four-game
run.
I think they make the playoffs.
I I think you take Carolinaminus three there.
I changed it.
I was gonna say stay away, Ichanged it.
I I don't think New Orleans.
Again, it goes back to the teamsthat streak two in a row.

(37:26):
Do you really think New Orleansthey've won three games all
year?
You think all of a sudden at theend of the year they're gonna
start winning two, three gamesin a row?
No.
No.
That's not gonna happen.
So it's gotta be Carolina.
I like that lock, Ethan.
Uh, Uncle Mike gave us Vikings,Cowboys over 47.5.
Um, yeah, have you seen thatCowboys defense?

(37:46):
Cowboys gave up 44, I think, toDetroit last week.
Now the Vikings aren't Detroit,but the Cowboys defense is not
good again.
I don't know what happened.
They they beat Kansas City atThanksgiving, and then they
immediately revert back to theirbad defensive tendencies.
I I don't know.
It's very disappointing as aCowboys fan this season.

(38:07):
It feels like another lostseason uh for Cowboys fans.
We've had a lot of those sincethe mid-90s.
Uh just, you know, ChadHutchinson, quarterback, uh
Quincy Carter, Drew Bledsoe,Vinny Testaverdi, most of Romo's
seasons.
Like it just most of Dak'sseasons.

(38:28):
Dak's been there ten years now.
Like it's just another lostseason for the Cowboys with no
hope of Super Bowl.
So I don't know.
Uh yeah, that defense probablygives up enough.
Um alright, that's that's all wehave.
We're missing Steve, Matt,Scott, Uncle John's lock this
week, but that's okay.
We got we got three of them, andyou got mine, most importantly.

(38:51):
You got mine.
Uh look, I had to think aboutthis one a lot this week.
I'm I'm in my own head.
Like I'm I'm twisted up.
I thought I had the Bears onelast week.
I thought I read that one right.
The half point got me, the hookgot me.
The thing that really kills me,I think it was my Uncle John
that pointed it out, if I hadmade the lock earlier in the
week, the line was Bears plusseven and a half.

(39:13):
And it even at one point hadgone down to plus seven.
But by the time I decided it andpicked it, it was plus six and a
half.
So if I had gotten it earlier inthe week, I would have covered.
That's gambling.
That's life.
You don't know, like, do you geta better line on Monday or you
get a better line on Friday?
That's or Sunday, even.
That's that's the joy ofgambling in the digital age.
Um, you have any opportunity tobet it at any time, and the line

(39:38):
is always changing slightly, uh,sometimes just enough.
So I'm in my own head this week,and I'm thinking, and I'm
thinking, but I'm looking at thelines, and I'm looking at it,
and again, I see another twoloss home team, and they're a
home dog.
Just like New England earlier.
I said I almost made that mylock, because I think New

(39:59):
England.
England wins outright.
And I see it again.
I'm thinking, what and so again,I'm in my head, I'm thinking,
what do the odds makers knowthat we don't know?
I I couldn't figure it out.
So my lock this week, I'm givingyou Denver plus two and a half,
and I am telling you, forget thepoints.
Moneyline, Denver.

(40:21):
That's what you want here.
They're at home.
They're very good at home.
They're very good, period.
They've lost two games all year.
They're a very good team.
Their defense is unbelievable.
And it's especially good athome.
You want to sprinkle the underhere?
You probably get an under aswell.
But I I love Denver to just winhere bigly.

(40:43):
Packers on the road this year.
They've lost to Cleveland.
They tied at Dallas.
They won by four at theCardinals.
One by ten at the Steelers.
Seven at the Giants, seven atDetroit.
The Broncos defense is leaps andbounds better than any of those
teams I talked about.
The Giants.
Please.
Giants stink.

(41:03):
Cowboys defense, stink.
You tied them?
You tied them.
Oh my.
Cardinals, three wins all year.
Steelers, I just talked aboutthat AFC North.
Nobody can win two games in arow.
You beat them by ten?
Like, you think you're gonna theodds makers are looking at this
and saying, yeah, Green Bay winsby three or two and a half?

(41:24):
On the road?
No.
No, no, no, no, no.
Broncos defense, elite thisyear.
I'm giving it the elite tag.
Uh their offense is good, notgreat.
But I don't think you need agreat offense to beat the
Packers.
I think Denver wins this game.
I think they win it by seven.

(41:45):
Denver plus two and a half.
That's my lock of the week.
That's gonna do it.
Oh, also against the spread.
Denver at home.
When they're or Denver on theyear.
I forgot one last stat.
Denver as an underdog this yearagainst the spread, three and
one.

(42:07):
Three and one.
That's such a good number.
I mean, four times.
They've been an underdog.
They've covered three out ofthose four times.
I love Denver here.
Yeah.
Denver plus two and a half.
That's my lock of the week.

(42:27):
I already bet it in the app.
That's my lock.
That's gonna do it for thisweek's show.
We have the dog picks stillcoming up on the old TikTok.
Follow us at TSS Gambling.
Uh we'll be posting the AI thingwith the picks and everything.
And then I'll try to get youUncle John since he's so good

(42:48):
this year.
I'll try to make sure everybodysees Uncle John's pick because
he's tied with me for first.
So that's gonna do it for thisweek's episode.
Thanks, and good luck gambling,everybody.
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