Tight Lipped Gobblers: Navigating the Challenges of Early Season

Hunter and Chase Farrior dive into week two of the 2025 turkey season with stories from the Mississippi woods, discussing strategies for hunting "henned-up" gobblers that are challenging to call in.

• Gobblers are particularly challenging this season, often going silent once they fly down from the roost
• Both hosts notice there seem to be more hens and gobblers than in previous seasons
• Chase shares a successful hunt where being in the perfect spot was more important than calling
• Hunter recounts a missed opportunity when overthinking a shot through potential obstructions
• The challenges of hunting thick cover where turkeys sound farther away than they actually are
• Discussion of red dot sights versus traditional beads and challenges when shooting in thick cover
• Brief mention of Breck's successful turkey hunt with their father
• Interactions with vocal hens can be almost as rewarding as working a gobbler

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:42):
All right, what's going oneverybody?
Welcome to the Spring LegionPodcast, week number two of our
2025 turkey season.
My name is Hunter Farrier.
My name is Hunter FarrierJoining you alongside brother
and co-host Chase Farrier, andwe are in the middle of March
late middle of March, I guessyou could say and we didn't

(01:06):
promise no turkey huntingstories to tell last week, but
we have less than 24 hours, lessthan 12 hours, to accumulate a
couple stories before werecorded last week.
This week we've had a full sevendays to recap and have gathered
a story or two worth talkingabout and probably worth you all
listening to.
Either way, we appreciate youlistening and we're going to

(01:30):
dive into them pretty about twoor three minutes, I'd say.
Wanted to hit a couple updatesbefore we did, as we do every
week, wanted to remind you allabout the new vintage tees, the
Mossy Oak vintage washedshort-sleeved tees we got on the
website.
We do have full foliage.
Got a couple logos in those theDeadstock 90s logo as well as

(01:52):
our usual general regular SpringLegion logo and we also have
some original bottomlandversions of that and both of
those respective logos as well.
Got a big haul of Cas rope hats.
Not long ago I think wementioned those and I do think
maybe last week we mentioned the90s throwback casual hats.
We restocked a maroon and whiteone, a green and white one with

(02:14):
the deadstock logos, as well asa green and natural cotton
colored one in the walkingturkeys, also kind of a
throwback logo.
Uh, it's also on the websitebut I do not think I told y'all
and this is on me that werestocked a lot of kind of
current looking hats more themore.
Um, the, the platinum series,unstructured max back hats that
are pretty popular, especiallydown here in the southeast.

(02:37):
Uh, the, the state series thatwe've kind of been uh dabbling
with, the mississippi and thealabama feather hats turkey
feather hats are available inboth of those and, uh, the mgc
collection, the melly eggsgallop, ava, which is one of our
first designs period and hasbeen one of the most popular

(02:58):
ones.
I don't know why we don't domore stuff with those designs
anymore.
We kind of stopped, didn't we?
But got a couple options ofthose as well in the mesh packs,
as well as a few other thingsthat I don't really remember.
So y'all just go check it outat springleasoncom.
That's um, yeah, all we'redoing is really revolving a
bunch of casual stuff.
Now, all the all the camo stuffis happened and a lot of sizes

(03:20):
are near sold out or alreadysold out.
But we've got a good bit ofgators, I think.
Maybe, yeah, maybe a size ortwo sold out in one of the
variants, but for the most partwe still got a good bit of those
waterproof gators and pants.
Pants are pretty good.
For a minute I'd say, well,we're selling out of a few sizes
here and there, but we've gotsome.

(03:42):
We've got the new bottom landand the sizes that we don't have
the original bottom land rightas far as I can tell.
So I might, might, go on thereone night, here in the next day
or two and merge those togetheras one turkey hunting pant,
because the new bottom lands islast year, the turkey hunting
pant two and the original bottomland is this year's.
There ain't much different.

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No, I think there's a brazenresistant fabric on the ankle of
the new pant and that's it,aside from the pattern.
Yeah, don't you say I think so.
Yeah, I'm trying to rememberback.
Yeah, yeah, so I believe that'sright.
We have all the sizes.
They're just split between thetwo patterns.
Is pretty much what I'm saying,right?
Um, but jackets, I think wemight just have larges, we might

(04:24):
have a few more sizes, a couplemediums, but yeah, if you
didn't grab one of those and youdon't wear a large, you better
look next year's.
All I can say it ain't, weain't getting no more till next
year, but we do have a giveaway.
Winner wanted to give a shoutout to uh, as we mentioned, or
kind of very blatantly hinted atdoing a giveaway again this

(04:44):
week for sharing the podcast touh.
An instagram story is theirname.
Is not away va trail cameras.
All right, that's a mouthfulright there.
But if you are the proud ownerof not away va trail cameras
username on instagram, dm uswith the address.
We got a?
Uh, one of the old school greenleaf caps headed your way.

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We got plenty of those, by theway.
Oh, yeah, the five panels, yeah, the five panels and six panels
, mesh backs and solid backs andthe quick dry and the really
cool quick dry kind.
Yeah, the little white hatsForgot about them.
Those are in the originalbottom line of green leaf on the
website.
Those are like less than $20, Ithink Less than $20, I think,
yeah, probably the cheapest hatwe've got.
Honestly, honestly, yeah, goodhunting hat.
I wore the crap out of mine.

(05:27):
Mine's got a tint of yellow toit because of all the pollen,
but maybe a sweat ring or two.
Yeah, it's been pretty mild,cool, crisp mornings this week,
so been able to break them out.
But one more heads up for y'allwho didn't catch the new living
on turkey time tees over atmossy oak.

(05:49):
Uh, caught my eye about twodays ago and hopefully I think
I've either got it in a car I'vealready placed order but a cool
, little, little uh gig to getthe spring underway, as we're
all living on turkey time now.
And I think they got they'reprobably I would think they're
in the full foliage patterns atthe vintage days.

(06:10):
They got them on on there abouteverything.
Right, I saw it.
Yeah, I saw them on the fullfoliage.
You did foliage and, uh, theygot a lot of stuff coming out
with it.
Yeah, hard to keep up with themalmost.
Yeah, they got a lot of.
All the full foliage they'vereleased in the past week or two
, especially online, is abundant.
There's plenty of it and Ican't I ain't got enough

(06:31):
notebook paper to jot them alldown.
So y'all check those out at ourbuddies at MySeaOak, but yeah,
so, hopping into thestorytelling side of things, I
was going to go first, but Ithink it might be better if
chase goes first, because he'sgonna have a story that I have
yet to hear because it happenedthis morning.
But as far as the, the generalfeel and the plan for these

(06:55):
in-season podcasts that we'redoing which is kind of new to us
usually we stop by now, butit's more so a seven-day recap
of of our coming to finds, so tospeak, in the in the spring
woods, and then we're going tobe mixing in some guests and
stories and stuff like that fromstuff that might not have
happened in the seven days, butat least you know stuff worth

(07:16):
talking about or stuff we'venoticed, or screw-ups we've had,
honestly, um, which had acouple of those this week, which
is what I'm gonna hit on.
So I do too, you do, okay, itmakes you feel better.
But, um, but the, the the themeof the week, if you, if you

(07:37):
don't hunt down this way, is endup turkeys, yeah, and, and all
that comes with them.
And it's been a while sinceI've hunted the, the real hand
up phase, and when I say realhand up, they don't get more
hand up than this it's been.
It's been a little rough, Iain't gonna lie it'll.
It'll hurt your pride a littlebit, because there's there's not

(07:59):
much a human pretending a hencan be when they're, when
they're in that stage, and ithappens everywhere and it
happens here, obviously, everyyear.
But to this extent I don't.
I mean I remember being young,like 14, 15 years old, when it
was this bad, right, and I saybad, I mean it's not a bad thing
, it's just.
I really think there's more hensand more gobblers now than

(08:19):
there were the past few seasons.
Yeah, something's different, um, if I feel you know.
Yeah, I agree with you, thoughI don't remember it being a
little tighter cord to them.
I guess right so, but, and wesay, end up, what we mean is
they gobble on the limb soon,and they do not gobble when
their feet hit the ground butonce, and that is to let that.

(08:40):
Yeah, you're lucky if, if theygobble that one time, and when
their feet hit the ground theygobble, let the hens know where
they're at, and they ain't got aproblem finding them.
Yeah, and so your uh sense ofurgency, or your persuasion
skills, whatever you want tocall it, and being a real hen,
it don't really work unlessyou're a real hand walking to

(09:02):
him and in front of him twirlingaround.
It will work, yeah, in a fewweeks, but the only thing you
can do is kind of wait untilthen, so to speak.
A lot of folks say the bestthing to do is go get a biscuit
and come back at 10 o'clock andhope he's done with them.
But that's what I was saying.
I think there's just a lot ofhands now.
They don't get done with them.
Yeah, I think.
I mean, I think they're, youknow, working them all day,

(09:25):
right, and they're not, it seems, at least I think they are, and
they're not quite, you know,set on nests and stuff yet that
I've seen and heard of and it'sjust a frustrating time to
turkey hunt, honestly, and it'sum, but it makes it special, it
makes it fun.
It's a phase and I like huntinghendup turkeys just as much as
non-hend up turkeys because alot of times the hens are vocal

(09:45):
and I've gotten in the piss andmatches with some hens this week
more than I have in a long timeand that I I appreciate that
and the turkey hunting aspect asmuch as I do getting a gobbler
fired up.
I'm not gonna say I like itmore because you can't shoot
hens, but if I'm gonna not killa turkey, I would much rather
get in it with a hen a time ortwo, especially right at fly

(10:08):
down when they're trying toconduct stuff and assemble and
all that stuff and they get tochattering and stuff and you get
to go back at them.
They'll get to cutting back atyou.
It can be just as fun, honestly, as a longbird coming in to me.
I agree, I agree with that.
But yep, as fun as honestly asa as longbird coming in to me, I

(10:29):
agree, I agree with that.
But um, but yep.
So I'm gonna let chase dive inhis story because I'm kind of
eager to hear it which is astory that is only a few hours
old, as far as I know.
I guess what, maybe maybe 12hours.
We're recording this at 8 30 pmon um on sunday evening.
So, yeah, well, um, yeah, I gotone, I got one today, so it

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worked out, but it was, uh, youknow, hunting them, which he
hunted them yesterday and saying, you know, they were henned up,
like you were saying, juststraight off the limb, nothing.
And um, I hunted, I was headedinto one yesterday that I think
I've had a plan for him, allthat good stuff, and then about

(11:12):
needed about two more steps, andthose two more steps decided to
stir about 34 deer and about a10 by 10 square apparently, and,
um, what I mean when I saydisturbed?
I mean disturbed really.
Got him going, got him going,and I just needless to say that
turkey didn't gobble anymore,even on the limb.
Yeah, out of the three he gaveme to figure out what tree he

(11:35):
was in, um, that was it.
And um went back, moseyed arounda spot.
I'd heard, I heard a bird wayearlier and I think I ran into
him.
I don't.
I think we saw each other aboutthe same time.
Yeah, um, you know, I just kindof I couldn't tell he didn't
spook bad, but you know whichhappens a lot this time of year?

(11:56):
Yeah, because those satellitebirds that usually do gobble,
just don't.
Thank god, you know you'll,you'll meet them halfway, and I
know it.
And there's ain't no tellinghow many we've all bumped this
week that we don't know.
We bumped that, it muttered,because everything's wide open
and that's a lot of folks say.
That's part of the reason theydon't have the gobbling is
because they can see, so theycan fall in the woods, mm-hmm,

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and you know they would see youif you call.
They know they will probablysee you soon.
So they almost don't even letyou know.
Let others know, right, which?
Right after I saw him I saw somehens and some jakes, I guess
Really, I think a little smallgroup.
But I mean I pulled up thebinoculars and was just like,

(12:38):
let me yelp at them one time tosee what their reaction is to it
.
And they didn't care that I wasin the world, didn't raise
their head, didn't even want tolook, and I mean I could tell, I
mean I wasn't very far fromthem, I was 80 yards from them,
probably I know they could hearme and all that and did not
blink an eye at me.
So now, it wasn't a long beardI was looking at, it was, you

(13:01):
know, a Jake's and his I feellike it.
So I feel like the one I didsee.
I just stumbled upon him andI'm still not positive.
It wasn't a Jake, it just had abig body on it.
I just saw his back, you know,kind of walking off.
But so this morning I was perusual running late, kind of one

(13:27):
of those things woke up lateagain.
Um, didn't intend foreverything to go decent at all,
and not as late as I did.
No, yeah, you woke up a littlelater than me.
Huh, yeah, I woke up after youchatted.
Yeah, I about called you, but Iwas supposed to go.
Yeah, I didn't know if you wereintending on doing that or not.
So last we spoke, I couldn'ttell um, but we also thought

(13:47):
that weather was going to becrummy this morning.
And it turned out not to be,yeah, weather man was a little
off, but oh, I had a good idea,it was gonna be good weather.
I knew tomorrow wasn't gonna begood.
I was planning on going.
Maybe I had my days mixed up.
Yeah, that's what it wassupposed.
The the forecast is gonna looklike like, say, rain today,
because technically it istonight, but tomorrow morning
might be a little e, yeah, butthis morning should have been

(14:09):
pretty good 49 degrees or so,maybe 47 really.
My truck, when I got out of itI remember what you want.
Oh, it was.
It was very good um conditions,I'd say real calm and
everything.
Um, but I heard you know morethan one and then, walking in,
had one.
That's where I mess up.

(14:31):
I had a feeling one was going tobe kind of the same area of the
one I, the deer, bumpedyesterday.
So that was my intention.
Intended plan was get up thereon his ridge with him and, um,
because there's a little openarea up there, these are thicket
birds.
Yeah, I mean it's birds.
Clarify that that you'rehunting some thick stuff.
Yeah, I mean it's, it's chest.

(14:52):
High briars, right everywhereyou go just about, except for
you know some small pockets hereand there but which they could
be gobbling on the ground andthat, and you don't hear unless
you're within 100.
It's very muffled in there.
I've dealt with that before.
Time of year.
Probably not the case, butsometimes you think they're a
mile away and they're literally120.

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I had that happen this morning.
Really, that's what I'm aboutto get into, because I was
walking down this path and Icould hear the bird in the back
gobbling when I ended up huntingand I was easing towards him.
I'm like man, there should beone.
You know, if that one fromyesterday is anywhere, he should
be up here, somewhere betweenwhere I'm at and where he was.
You know, I've kind of passedwhere he was the day before.

(15:35):
At this point I'm like man, Iguess I bumped him bad.
You know, I'm starting to kindof blame myself, like you're
playing jingo, you're like itgonna happen.
Yeah, well, it happened when Igot about parallel with him in
the road and I was in the worstspot you could be.
Really, I was in the thickestof the thickest ticket on left
and the right.
Can't get out, you know, can'tsquat down real quick.

(15:58):
Which I will say, this morningwas a lot of like mental mindset
, right, you know, yeah, I had agood day.
Just, you know, guess, right, alot, or like well, just really
put in the extra effort, yeah,to be stealthy and stuff.
I parked, I mean, I probablywalked a mile back in there.
Yeah, just down the road youcan drive, you know, right, just

(16:21):
doing stuff like that andmaking sure to stay on the
proper side of the path anddoing what you're disciplined,
being disciplined, what you know, right, just doing stuff like
that and making sure to stay onthe proper side of the doing
what you're disciplined, beingdisciplined, what you know.
Yeah, yeah, I had a good day ofbeing disciplined.
Let's just say that.
Okay, um, which isn't alwaysthe case right now, especially
whenever you wake up a littlelate and y'all harebrained and
whatnot yeah, you're like, justget there, you know well, today,

(16:41):
yeah, whatever.
So whenever he gobbled I mean henow, knowing what I know, he
was probably about 150 probablycould see the road that I was
walking down clear's day and Iwas like, man, if I can get
another 60 yards up this road, Iknow that I'll be at the top of
his ridge.
It's open and I can at leastsit by on the edge of the road,
you know, and be working hisridge.

(17:01):
You know, kind of the same deal.
I take six steps and by on theedge of the road, you know, and
be working his ridge, you know,kind of same deal.
I take six steps and flies offthe freaking road.
She was roosted on the road,yeah, you know, blows out or not
blows out, but flies off, um,and then he obviously shut up.
He got with twice the wholemorning, you know, yeah, but the

(17:24):
other birds were gobbling good,so it's kind of weird.
You know, I don't think he wasin a killable spot either way,
really, but sometimes the bestthing you can do is get through
there and, yeah, hope he thinksyou're something else, but
worked on down, found this birdthat was gobbling a little more
consistent.
Yeah, probably gobbled 20, 30times, which honestly, for this

(17:45):
week is a ton.
Thank you.
More than three, yeah, which,yeah, that's what I found is
every day, you know, it's beentwo, three gobbles from each
turkey, and lord, help you ifyou got more than one to this
goblin, because you turn to tryand pinpoint that one and one
goes behind.
You turn to pinpoint that one,the one goes behind you and
that's all you get this because,like on these really high
pressure days, this good goblinweather, but you can hear

(18:08):
freaking miles, oh, yeah, you'llhear chicken farms three miles
away and you're like, no waythat's.
I know, that's what that is.
That sounds like chickens andthat's.
You know, if I put my fingerdown here and here, that's a
good mile and a half and itsounds like 120.
You just hear so far.
And you almost hear every dogbark and every school bus door

(18:29):
shut and you know, it almostcomes a little cloudy in that.
You hear a lot of gobbles andthey all sound forever away.
Yeah, and they really are.
It's just you and you're notgonna get there in time.
So it's almost hard to pick thegood one right, especially when
they're shutting up.
Right, if you knew an areagoing in blind, like you didn't
know this turkey was there orwhere he was, right, yeah, I

(18:52):
mean, it's going to be tough topick one up.
Yep, get there in time, youknow, after two gobbled tops,
right.
So if, yeah, I mean, and wayoff, and then making a move to
that extreme, yeah, you, it'sgonna be tough, yeah, it's gonna
be a rough day and you probablyain't gonna win that one,
probably not 99% of the time,but, um, but anyways, this

(19:14):
bird's firing off pretty welland all that, and I slip on down
the road and get to where I'mabout.
I think I walked past him alittle piece because I didn't
like walking into that thickstuff.
I'm like they ain't coming init.
This is 100% a setup play.
I didn't call him innecessarily or anything like

(19:35):
that.
I just set up in the right spotbut found a little strip of a
ditch I guess you'd say thatholds water at some point of the
day or year.
So it was a little more openStarted making my way in there.
On that I'm thinking thisbird's like 250 this whole time,

(19:57):
yeah.
And I guess he turned a littlebit and gobbled one good time.
I was like, eh, I'm gettingclose, yeah, I'm getting a
little closer than I need to be,and I mean pine trees are open,
stuff like that.
I'm hunting pine thickets, yeah.
So I mean there's thatmid-story level that they can
see the ground and I can't seethem and they can't.
If they're on the ground theycan't see you.

(20:19):
But I thought he was on theground but he wasn't just a ball
of confusion there for a momentor two but ended up pushing in
you know 80 yards off off thepath and I, uh, I actually
didn't like where I was set upand made a last minute.
You know, go or blow it, do itor mess it all up all at one

(20:43):
time.
Give it a go and drop back 20yards, yeah, and hook back to
the left a little bit just for abetter setup.
Yeah, and I'm not kidding you,whenever my seat cushion hit the
ground and made that sound, itreally messed with my head a
little bit because it was likeone flew down, one of the hands

(21:06):
flew down and landed like 35, 40yards Really, right there on me
, just because I was the onlyopen area.
Yeah, I was 100% picked theright spot, yeah, yeah, that's
my opinion on it, and I didn'teven think I had a mouth call in
, but luckily I had thrown onein it, like leaving the truck to
keep from getting caught inmouth.
That's when you yeah, which Ididn't have to yelp he flew down

(21:32):
right behind her, really 45yards probably, and went
straight to strutting Really anddrummed, and drummed, and
drummed and drummed, which I hadto watch them for like 15, 20
minutes.
I could have shot him and struckminute two of the hunt, but you
know, I was kind of like notthe shot I needed to take.
Yeah, see what he does, youknow kind of deal.

(21:53):
And then he spun and spun andspun behind one five inch tree,
oh yeah, the whole time couldn'tget a clear shot on him,
couldn't go clear shot on him.
The hands actually startedworking towards me and um, it
ended up like four or five flewdown with him really probably
five hands total and they'rerunning in front of him and

(22:15):
stuff.
I'm like I'm just not takingthat shot, I'm going to mess up
more than I'm going to do, right, you know.
And so shoot.
We sat there for probably 15minutes, 20 minutes, just
watching him, you know, watchingpieces of him.
I mean it was cool to see thatbecause, you know, hunting the
way we do, we don't get thatvery often, yeah, very rarely.

(22:37):
Hunting the way we do, we don'tget that, yeah, often very
rarely.
Um, and just somebody didn'tknow I was in the world, which I
ended up yelping one or twotimes, which the hens were real
vocal and all they were, yeah,the hens were yelping.
I say real vocal, for you know,this time of year they were
very vocal.
They weren't just mad at theworld, they were just talking,
calm, yelping, yeah, and youknow, just not knowing I was in

(22:59):
the world, like it was one ofthose, I'm amongst them and they
don't know.
Yeah, exist, and this isawesome.
You know, there's one of thosegood mornings, um, which I, you
know, I let like two or threelike tree jumps out, just
because I was scared I was gonnacaulk that call because I do
have a little bit of the cutmouth.
They are that close.

(23:20):
I know he can see the area.
I'm at all right, don't mess itup.
You got one shot, don't messthis up.
Yeah, so I like soft yelp, liketwo times, two, two yelps and
then, uh, the hens actually kindof pushed a little bit closer
to me.
Yeah, that's what I was tryingto do, right, just, but I was
terrified if I yelped one time,they're going to turn and walk
the other way, pull them awayfrom me, you know.
So I was like this is a riskyball game right now, yeah, but

(23:46):
then you know, just those softlike tree, I guess you'd call
them tree yelps yeah, just alittle.
You know as quiet as I could be,I probably did that twice over
the span of five minutes apart,over the span of about 10, you
know 10, 11 minutes probably,and then like minute 15, I'm
getting tired of me spinningaround that one tree and I'm
like all right, come on, dude,like just break left or right,

(24:09):
please, or, you know, give me agood shot.
Like my arm's getting tired atthis point, you know, I'm like
all right that my heart's aboutto hurt, start hurting at this
point, like it's uh, it needs tocalm down a little bit.
So I, I do yelp about four goodfour or five good solid notes,
a little bit louder, a littlebit more, intended at a drum.

(24:33):
Right, you know, I've heard himdrum and I'll pop.
And he gobbled two or threetimes that's cool there, once or
twice at a woodpecker.
And then one time one of thehens yelped good and loud and he
pow, but he sounded 150 yards.
Really, that blew my mind,which I could see his tail fan

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whenever he gobbled, which hewas gobbling away from me for
some reason.
That it's like a cushion, it isliterally a, yeah, soundproof
room, yeah, what he's inpractically.
And, um, yeah, that blew mymind.
I mean it, it sounded goodstill, but like I still didn't
feel like it was 40 yards.
You're right, it should haveblown my hat off, exactly, and

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it didn't.
One thing I forgot one of thehens saw something, something
scared her like on the ground,and she jumped up in the air
real high, like that one sealshot a couple years back or
whatever, and she pop, pop, pop,pop, pop, pop.
And I'm like what, I thoughtshe saw me or the glare of the

(25:37):
camera or something like I waslike what in the world?
And, you know, realized she was, went back to feeding 0.2
seconds.
It's funny how many timessomething scares the crap out of
them.
Yeah, and they, they just, youknow, yeah, those look at her
like calm down, right, and justyou're overreacting.
Yeah, I've seen, I've seen sawsome humans do that.

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It was last week, which I mighthave mentioned on here, I think,
because it was a, it was duringthe opening day or whatever
kind of bumped a hen.
She was laying down, oh, reallylike laying down in the shade,
pretty much walked up on herlike that's a turkey head
sticking up, and then by thetime she she, you know picked
her head up, look back at me andstood up and like ran off like

(26:18):
a freaking creep, like you know,like yeah, what are you doing?
And just ran off and then likeI'm like oh Sorry, busted that
you know whatever's going onthere, because she definitely
saw me standing in the middle ofthe road walking up and like
one minute later she like walkedback and like lays back down,
like it looks back at, kind oflike all right, I don't mind
that bad, right, I guess.
But um, um, yeah, don'toveranalyze how bumped they

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really are.
Sometimes they just if theydon't know what you are, yeah,
you know, a lot of times they'relike well, it ain't there, no
more, I'm good, right, andthat's you know.
And she I mean the otherturkeys didn't even lift their
heads when she hit that.
All that, and they feel safewhen there's a lot.
Now you bump one single longbeard.
He ain't coming back for awhile because he doesn't know
nobody to verify that you'reoveracting.
You ain't overacting, you know,yeah.

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So I mean he just finally brokeleft, yeah, which the hands were
going right.
But I mean, when I yelped thosefour good, solid notes, yeah,
it was enough for him to saylike, hang on, let me look.
That one didn't come from rightthere.
Good, I mean the hens are 18 to20 yards from me, probably just
feeding around whatnot.
Um, but I was enough to theleft of the and at the left of

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them to from him.
I guess it's a hard way to saythat, um, for him to say, you, I
want to look at that, yeah, onegood time.
And he broke strut and I mean Itook him, I shot him the first
good shot I had on him.
He'd been sitting in gun rangethe whole time, which I think it
was 34 steps to him.

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Really, what I checked out.
I don't know if any of it's onfilm or not, I hadn't looked
back, but it is what it is.
Yeah, it was really cool.
Just if I was one minute laterI would have blown that whole
ball game you wouldn't have, Imean, five seconds later, really
, right, which I mean picking agood spot is half of it.
It's more than half of it to meis being in the right spot,

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especially if you're hunting oneon the roof, especially if
you're hunting one, the name ofgobble after he hits the ground.
So you've got to be there,which, um, nah, I mean I will
say I think in the video I saysomething like he might be on
the ground, like, just like,hang on a minute, like that bird
maybe, like like I heard alittle chest shake or something
like that turkey's a lot closerthan I think he is.

(28:35):
You're just removing stuffbetween you as you move around.
You can move left or right, notnecessarily towards him, but
stuff that thick you're removingor adding, it's just layers, is
all it is like.
You know, I still don't knowhow they didn't see me walking
around in there.
I was just, I mean, but I wastaking it slow.
If you move slow and they seemovement, if it don't startle

(28:57):
them, yeah, they just kind ofalmost expect you to keep moving
and doing whatever and theydon't know what you are.
It only stopped when I was upagainst a tree, stuff like that,
where when it did stop, theycould look You're probably quiet
walking unless you're in thebriar part.
I was in where it met thelittle open area.
So I mean, I was trying to hugthe line of it, just stay in the

(29:19):
hidden part, because I mean,what's behind me is
light-colored grass.
You know that's dead still.
So I was like man, they'regoing to pick me up out of that
more than anything.
So yeah, I did have to, youknow, use my little camera stick
to push some briars out of theway and try and keep from
grabbing me and making a bunchof commotion.

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Well, it worked out.
Yeah, I mean picking the rightspot, and a lot of that comes on
the second mornings.
Yeah, more than not.
I found which I did, get on onegobbled and acted right.
Finally, midweek shot in.
But a story that kind ofcoincides what you're doing was

(30:01):
almost the same thing, it's justthe exact opposite happened,
which was earlier in the weekwhen and they were still doing
exactly that end up hitting theground, um, shutting up
completely.
Place had gone the day beforeand was five minutes too late,

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and I knew it when I shut thetruck door, shut it and I could
hear one guy I wonder when hestarted, I wouldn't know because
I wasn't here One of those.
It'd be very beneficial becausehe blew it out, the water on
the limb, right.
Yeah, that morning he did too,and I was able to get close

(30:45):
enough to get in a callablesituation.
I could call him up, possibly,kind of got where a rope, went
down into the bottom.
I was like, if they move, ifthey work right, I got a shot to
pull him up.
I'm just there.
Ain't no way in the world I'mgoing to know when he's there,
because I'm too far to hear thedrumming and he ain't going to
gobble and it's going to soundlike these hens are everywhere.

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So I'm not going to really know, be able to figure out when
they're moving or where they'removing, because it's one of
those situations.
I think it was a time last yearPeyton and I were hunting it was
afternoon-ish, I feel like yeah, and one was working.
He'd gobble every 200 yards orsomething, whether or not I
called or not.
If I called any time duringthat, he wouldn't really gobble

(31:28):
unless he had changed something.
You know, he wasn't really justbeing you know gobbling to hear
himself gobble.
He'd let you know.
Nah, we went right here, youknow, and I had to just sit
there and time it and I just Icouldn't seem to like.
I just had to kind of pace itin my mind, like when he gets
about right here, which heshould be right now, if I call

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and he hadn't passed, it couldbe past that he'd be able to
walk around and see it withoutbeing in range.
If he's not far enough, he'sgonna slip in behind us quietly
and bump to you know, you knowwhere.
But so I tried doing that.
It didn't work.
I don't even know if they wentright.
He never gobbled again.
So I either missed the timingor they just went left and I was

(32:09):
never in the ballgame and I washunting air.
You know, never found out.
But the next morning I got therereal early.
I was like, well, I'm going,gonna pretend he went back up in
there and I think I was there,not far from there.
That evening I should be ableto hear that turkey up, you know
which turkey's on god, leavemississippi.
Hardly ever, but I just put outearly season.

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Yes, you know, I mean I'venever, I hardly ever hear, and I
don't even waste time most daysgoing to try to reach one, like
I would other places, but yeah,I just don't, I don't either.
It just ain't a big thing.
Right, they might give you one,and that's just sometimes.
I'd rather just figure it outin the morning.
Yeah, at that point.
But a lot of I mean more times,not, they don't, and you wind
up thinking something ain'tthere and it is, and you bump it

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off the next morning.
But so I just kind of pretended,like I was like assuming he's
in the same bottom this moment.
I'm getting out here, I'm gonnaget right here big to get, you
know, like I said, like that'shalf of it.
Right there is knowing the land, knowing how it should work,
whether it be via topo or viaeyeballs, you know, having a
good handle, how open it is,where the open spots are kind of

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a path of loose resistance toget from point a to point b, and
knowing where that point bmight be.
That's what I was saying.
Like you can figure out left toright, point b stuff.
You're right, which across ofit was pines, open pines.
I found out later and I thinkultimately they wind up heading
there.
It's just a matter of do I geton past him or on this side of

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him, right, because you know, oryou might can look up at 10, 30
and kill him in the pines.
But you really you have no ideaif that's gonna happen or not,
because he ain't gonna let youknow.
So I get in there, get in there.
Pretty good, where I'm, I'mleaned up against the tree,
ain't gobbled yet, ain't nothing.
No songbirds, nothing.
I'm just waiting.

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I'm close, I'm like I can getthere.
Yeah, if he gives me one gobble, I should be able to give a
good idea at this point.
And so I'm sitting there, hegobbles once.
I'm like alright, he's in thesame bottom.
So right on that, and then I'mlike, well, a little deeper than
I thought.

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But so I got to getting downthere.
Try to find a good ravine orsomething.
I could kind of walk down andbe quiet, ish, and it's pretty
dark.
Get down there.
Get down there and wind upgetting, and I like to.
If I can get 80, I'm, I'm goodat 80, yeah, it's just enough
for them to fly down.
You got 40 to call ish if theyfelt if they flew down right
there a lot of times they'll cutthat in half 20 yards in flight

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.
You only got 20 to call me, youknow, just to get them into a
40 yard radius.
Well, y'all know.
I mean, you sit down in thedark.
Light comes up.
There's a little different andI was able to kind of see a
little bit because the floor isthe mud, the dry mud.
You know I'm talking about bigleaves, dry mud, kind of clay
colored, so I can tell where thetrees are, because they look

(35:00):
like dark silhouettes and stuff.
I'm sure I'm starting to looklike a dark silhouette.
I'm back to the creek.
He's up a little bit, I sitdown and it's all wide open.
So it ain't no real good spot.
You know more, more, betterthan the other ones.
It's just a matter of beingrealistic and being finding
something for him to walk around.

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So I see this big.
I don't want to blow down, butit's just like a trunk of a tree
.
I'm like, well, that's about.
It's about 40.
And I'm like in my head I'mlike if he flies down right at
that tree he'll have to comearound that big log to see
what's on the other side of it.
It's just a matter of I don'tknow where that log starts or
where that log stops.

(35:41):
So if it's really far he has towalk 70 yards out, or it's kind
of angled away, quartered away,or he's going to walk around
the left side and come out at 20.
I just don't know which one,unless he drums and it's going
to be kind of muffled becausethere's something in front of us
.

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So that was kind of my go-toplan and I sit down and he's
gobbling pretty good, still onlimb.
Yeah, gobbling pretty good atnothing.
And I don't hear any hens, Idon't hear any other gobblers,
no, coyotes, owls, nothingmaking him gobble, he's just
gobbling, feels good.
I said, yeah, first calm daythat I remember of the season.

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And then I hear a hand of yokebehind me.
She might have been across thecreek.
I'm like who you know?
Not ideal, but she is over myright shoulder, he's in front of
my left shoulder.
I'm like I'm in a good spotfirst off, over my right
shoulder, he's in front of myleft shoulder.
I'm like I'm in a good spotfirst off.
So it's kind of you shift youroffense to defense, like don't
mess up what's about to happen.

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Kind of like you were doing,you know.
You look at him and you're like, hmm, all I got to do is not
mess this up and I'm all right.
You know, easier said than done, obviously.
So she ups a time or two.
He answers her prettyassertively, I guess you'd say,

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or pretty intentional in hisgobbles, very obvious on what
they were to.
So I let out a tree up or twoand I don't have my wing.
Remember I told you I don'tknow if I told you all last week
, but I did not realize how bigof a behind that was going to
put me in this week until I didfinally get her wing from it.
But until then I I was likegolly, you know, and I think I

(37:27):
did.
I was like maybe in the truck Itried my hat.
I'm like ain't, I ain't doing.
No, I'm not good at that, I'venot figured that out enough to
just go in there and sit under agobbler and flap my hat like.
I'm just like I gotta at leastpractice once you know in the
actual woods, at least see whatis it gonna sound like.
I'm just like I gotta at leastpractice once you know in the
actual woods, at least see whatis it going to sound like.
I'm like, especially not with aguy right there that close.
I'm like well, my only goalhere is to tree up a couple

(37:48):
times and I'll hit somescratching, maybe you know,
because he, like I said he's 80and I tree up.
He answered it.
That other one starts yelping alittle bit Just the same thing,
you know.
A lot of yelps in it, but verysoft, almost like she's just

(38:09):
minding her own business, andthen she flies over on top of
him.
I'm like, here we go, whichhappens a lot, but it just kind
of is unfortunate, because nowyou have eyes in the sky and
they're looking for you and youcan't make a move and he ain't
falling down yet.
So if he flies to your rightand you're right-handed.
You're in a bind because if youdon't fly down a shotgun range,
you've got to move right andthere's somebody watching you

(38:30):
from above.
But and game's over, you know,and it's not a you beat him, but
you got to beat the one who'sjust sitting there staring at
you going I dare you to move.
Yeah, move anything, anything.
You think you're a real handwatch?
Yeah, I'm gonna win this it's.
You know pretty much what she'ssaying and she's like yelping at
you, like yelp again, just doit.

(38:51):
Yeah, um, so that's going on inthe back of my mind, which I
actually like.
I'm pretty, you know, holdingmy composure pretty good.
I'm like not sitting theregoing like, what do I do here?
That and over react.
I'm like, well, that happened.
So now we got to be really,really, really still and, um,
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Yeah, I'm trying to backtrack.
I might have had my slatecaught.
I don't remember.
I might have yelped at himtwice with it and that hand
didn't fly over until after hegobbled.
He gobbled at me one good timeand I was, like he done, turned

(39:56):
on the limb, looked at me andgobbled hard and I'm like, okay,
and I think I'd you know, maybelike reactive yelp back at him
like you said, like a you knowreal quick, right after the
gobble and I didn't do nothingelse and he got one more good
time at me.
I'm like, okay, we're ready.
You know, anything else will befrom the mouth, call if needed,

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and that's.
I think that's when she flewover and then somehow or another
, I had a foot under my leg orsomething.
I was able to move it enough tosound like scratching,
intentionally not readjusting it, so to speak Didn't bump her.
He flies down.
I see him fly down.
He hits the ground and startsdrumming.
One time when he hits theground, like I usually do, he

(40:38):
flies to my left and I alreadyhear the drumming.
I'm like, all right, we allright.
But he flies down behind a big,you know growed up stuff, kind
of, uh, magnolia tree.
I don't know if they're reallymagnolias, they look like
magnolia leaves.
I know there's like three orfour different kinds of trees
that look like that, but yeah,I'm gonna call it a magnolia
tree in the river bottom.

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So if, if it's not magnoliatrees, just let me know what
they are.
But really low-hanging branchesand really low-growing branches
.
So it's almost like a mesquitetree, does?
The branches start four inchesfrom the ground and grow all the
way up.
There's no trunk, it's just ashrub almost.
I think it's really a magnoliatree.
It might be, I don't know.
I think it's an actual magnoliatree.

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I know there's two or threethat look a lot like it.
That ain't magnolia trees, butI don't know what they are.
I don't know.
But regardless.
So he's on the other side of theapp and there's a little
ravine-looking thing, a littleditch that T-bones into me.
I'm sure it continues on in themiddle morning before I was on
the left half of that ditch andhe's on the right side now.

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I'm kind of straddling thatditch bags again.
Okay, um.
So he walks that ditch and I'mlike, well, I can kind of see
the ditch.
Now I'm like he don't get thatditch and come straight down.
That's exactly what he did.
But he, he kept stuff betweenus the whole way.
I'm like he didn't use that log.
That log wasn't a barrier, nomore.
He flew down so far left thatthat log was of no relevant
anymore.
Yeah, so now he's coming in,coming in and I'm I'm getting

(42:03):
ready.
I'm like he's gonna judge him byhis drum and he's getting here,
you know, and sure enough, Isee his white head, which I love
about hunting early seasonmississippi horrible bottoms,
like the chalk white head, justappearing kind of like nothing
between you.
Don't walk out from nothing, itjust it gets close enough.
You see it now and it's almostlike comes out of fog.
It feels like out of thedarkness, because it's dark up

(42:25):
in there, which that's, yeah,that's all I saw this morning.
It's just that white head.
I was like, oh, that's him.
You almost see the head shootout before you hear a gobble and
it's all of a sudden like all Iwas watching like that gone,
that's a turkey's head rightthere, you know.
Yeah, because he blends in justdark bodied on him and stuff,
yeah, and the ridge goes upbehind him.
So he's doing what you did,walking in, like he's on that

(42:47):
side and there's stuff behindhim.
So it's hard to break out whathis silhouette is until that
white head starts moving aroundand he's moving closer, moving
closer, drum's getting closerand he gets 20.
And I'm still seeing pieces and, um, man, he gets that.
That magnolia I'm talking aboutit's pretty sparse, limbed, you

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know it's not a big full type ofone, but the leaves obviously
are big right and they're prettydense leaves.
I've never held one feels likea piece of paper, like cardstock
almost, um, but it's close tome and that's the, that's the
booger and all of it was canshot, shoot through it, yeah,

(43:29):
but when they're very close orlike the twigs and stuff from it
are very close, what would be asmall portion of your pattern
now becomes 70 of your patternif it hits it in the first five
yards.
You know when you're still thesize of a quarter coming out of
there.
You know if I hit that one able, one little very small branch
there, but that very smallbranch does affect this shot at

(43:50):
all, it's going to be over 50 ofthis shot gone, you know from
the get-go, and then god knowswhere the other half's going to
go.
So I'm being selective here.
And he gets up there and I'mseeing him and I've almost got a
shot or two and I'm when Ifirst saw him, maybe 35, now
he's 25 and he he stops about 20.
He stops when two trees makinga little bit of a y I mean

(44:11):
parallel next to each other.
I'd say they're probably 18inches, yeah, 18 inches apart
maybe.
And he sits there and I'mpointed in between them, yeah,
where he's walking, like I ain'tgotta move nothing, ain't gonna
bump nothing, they ain't gottare-yelp at him or nothing, like
he's.
He's headed right at them andI'm like when he gets there, we
all right, he gets there andhe's like sick, sticking his

(44:34):
head up over some of them, thebrushing between us, to look,
and I'm like I could pop himright now.
But in the back of my mind I'mlike, man, I'm gonna feel like
an idiot if I clip something inbetween.
Here and there there's, there'sa little bit.
You know, not a lot, but therewas a little bit enough to make
you worry.
Yeah, make me think about it.
You know, and I'm looking at it.

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I'm like that is very close, ifit does the one kind of tree
that kind of could booger it.
I'm like, if that does notclose, if it does, the one kind
of tree that could booger it,I'm like if that does not barely
skim by it, if it does get halfof it.
Yeah, which I was.
The same scenario today, really,when he would come out, like I
was saying he'd come out frombehind that tree strutting, I
could have shot him there.
But it was one of those I justdidn't feel comfortable taking

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Because at like 15 yards therewas one or two little green
briars.
If it's right next to him, I'mlike you know you're talking
five pellets tops, but when it'snext to you it's a lot more
than five pellets.
Is what I'm trying to say.
I still think I had clippedsomething on this turkey I
killed because he I mean I hadshot from head to toe in this
thing.
A lot of times that's whathappens.

(45:37):
I mean it went everywhere yeah,being their toes and their head
.
I shot half his beard off,which is everything.
Which is one of thosesituations.
You know, crazy stuff happensand it's hard to avoid all of
them, but obviously you don'twant that to happen, which I
looked around Because of otherturkeys or anything like that.
That's what I was more scaredof was hitting another turkey in
a situation like that.
But I a situation like that,you know, but I don't want to

(45:58):
shoot something.
You know, it hits something atfive yards and it sends some
stuff.
So, yeah, which I mean, youknow, I don't, I don't know,
it's hard to know until ithappens.
Yeah, but I ain't had it happenvery often.
But I'm thinking like how dumbam I going?
And a lot of that is does thatsame scenario happen after
you've been working for twohours and knowing that's the

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best chance I got is a safelethal kill shot opportunity?
Right, I'd have taken that shotthis is what I'm saying, the
one he's standing in if I wouldhave, if he had not given me a
shot at all it was I wasconfident I'd have killed him
and I don't think I'd haveclipped nothing.
Yeah, in hindsight, obviouslyright, but how dumb would I feel

(46:41):
If you did, and knowing that,well, I ain't going to hear him
again the rest of the day.
Uh-huh, that's exactly thethought process I went through
this morning.
It's like he literally justflew down four steps from right
there.
How dumb are you going to feelif you rush it and clip
something?
You didn?
Yeah, and his hands are betweenme, you know, yeah, between me
and him.
He ain't going the otherdirection, right, they're just

(47:01):
working this way.
Yeah, this is all.
It is all I gotta do.
And I'm thinking my like youknow what, if she does putt or
something, he sticks his headreally up.
Then I got an even betteropportunity, right, yeah, you
know, 20 yards away, 18 inches,his head's about three.
He's looking directly at me,three inches wide.
So, yeah, I mean, I got it andI just sit there and wait.
I'm like, no, you're gonna,you're gonna regret it when you

(47:24):
do clip something.
Yeah, and you miss, because yourushed it and you know he'd
been on the ground about aminute and a half, I feel like
when I first saw it.
So like he ain't even gotreally done walking to where he
was probably gonna walk in mymind, right, but my god, I would
almost rather miss turkey ninetimes and not shoot.
Yeah, and just not pull thetrigger when you shoot when you
could have.

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And I knew it when he he startedwalking a little right and he
got behind the tree and he gotone time there and I saw his
head come out like, oh, hedidn't move back a little bit
too, yeah, and when I startedwishing he'd go back between
those two trees, I was like heain't shooting this turkey, he
don't.
They don't give you, you know,when they're this end up on

(48:07):
public land in mississippi,right, you don't get two
opportunities at them likeyou're good enough for them to
grace you with one.
And if you blow that one, youblew it.
Yeah, and I blew it because hegot behind that tree and I
called him back.
He went away, he came back,caught him back up down.
He got one more time, came backlike as soon as I went you, he
went right there like he waslike there, you freaking are.

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You know he'd been looking hard.
He came back looking.
I'm like please go between themtwo trees.
You know I got and I'm liketook my face off the gun a
little like, okay, I got it, Igot it.
You know I'm okay, I'm notgonna clip this.
What I was kind of worryingabout was over worrying, so to
speak.
And um, yeah, when I stood upand looked, I'm like no, it
wasn't a twig in sight thatwould have blocked that shot.

(48:49):
It was just kind of in my mindof like surely he'll give me a
wide, wide open one, give you abetter one, right?
Yeah, ain't pulled a triggersince may at the time.
So this is before.
I shot one right and um, yes,I'm, I'm on my head and
everything.
That joker comes back and hedon't.
He don't take a step left orright, he gives that tree
between us, comes all the wayback, struts one good time.

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His tail fan just appears outfrom behind the tree.
I'm like jesus.
I thought about bumping him,like making some move, make him
move left or right, you know,getting out of dodge because
he's about 17.
I can shoot him first, two orthree pretty easily.
He's wide open.
On the other side, that jerktakes that tree, puts it between
his fingers and goes all theway back about 85.

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Gobs again later.
He's gone.
He's gone, he's gone.
But what I did learn that day?
Because I always try to learnstuff, and I was pretty pissed.
I ain't going to lie becausethat's something I did, it ain't
something that happened to me,it's something I didn't or
didn't do.
But I never got back on him.
But I did go to them timeswhere I knew they were probably

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headed and they were headedthere and was able to follow a
hen's yoke most and was prettyaccurate and it winds up.
You know, I could see pieces ofthem.
They were probably 80, nevergot closer than 80, but if I
yelped a time or two there wasalways this one hand that would
yelp back at me and it'd be likeyou know, just let me know,
like literally let me know wherethey're at.

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It's kind of like if I did, itwas kind of like after a little
loss, she she'd let me knowwhere they're at and I could
kind of concentrate my, myvision or put the binoculars or
move in front of them a littlebit and I'd see their legs
moving or hear drumming orwhatever.
It's.
Just you ain't talking theminto doing nothing and they're
running a lot they're.
It's almost like herding cattle.
Oh yeah, you know they're,they're over here and you can't

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get a pin on where they're goingbecause if you do see a sliver
of, you know turkeys moving,they're going right to come back
left and then one go back, goesright and one comes at you, one
goes, you know they're.
Just you really don't knowwhere they're going without the
vocals, it's very, very tough totell, right, that's that's what
those were doing yesterday.
Yep, and then I'm back andforth.
But, um see, I was prettyfrustrated with that, and uh.

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What made it worse, though, isif I'd had a beat, I would have
been all right.
That red duck it is throwing meoff because I don't, because
it's not where my gun barrel is.
Right, a beat is, and so I'mlike, just because I can that
was the only thing that reallyheld me back was like, just
because I can see it through,this it's adjusting, for, you
know, whatever, I don'tunderstand them that well.

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So it's one of those like youdon't.
You don't like what, you don'tunderstand because you don't
really know what's going on, andso I don't know how that worked
.
So I was kind of like timid onit.
I guess you could say if I hada beat, I'm like, I'm looking
down the barrel, I know what'sin front, right, you just feel
like you're more right, yourconscience is better about it, I
guess.
Well, yeah, I mean, I'mshooting that same gun with a

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red dot, and this is a I'mtalking like a ten dollar one
from walmart red dot.
This ain't like a fancy lowprofile.
No, this one's like super gluedonto the top of 870, god knows
when it's.
Yeah, it was, it was.
It was very low class in 2000and 12.
When we bought it, breck waslittle, breck was like six or

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seven with that on there, but hekilled one this morning.
Yes, he did Another cool hunt,wanted to give him one.
Yes, talk about that.
I talked to Dad today.
That was a very cool hunt.
I did not know that happened.
Yes, a lot of stuff happened.
Breck came up and met me uphere in town just to get some

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more pictures and stuff togetherand, yeah, it seems like it's a
really cool one With some coolvideo too.
Yeah, wish our dad was on thevideo camera.
He sent me a phone recording ofthe video and it looked cool.
We'll have to put that onsocials and stuff.
But yeah, so, uh, we'll have toget put that on socials and
stuff.
But, um, but yeah, so, but no,I was getting.
That was like I missed one inmichigan last year.

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I shot and it was clear.
I mean, I didn't know this logexisted.
You know, I'm looking up realhigh through the red dot.
I don't see nothing notshooting right, right in time.
Not far in front of me.
Yes, you know, it was just alittle lower.
Yeah, and I had no idea it wasin the world, like what?
No right, there's a hole in thefar in front of me.
Yes, you know, it was just alittle lower.
Yeah, and I had no ideas in theworld, like what?
No right, there's a hole in thelog in front of me.
Where'd that come from?
You know, that wasn't in mysight thing, or whatever.
Yeah, because you get like afour inch gap from your barrel

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to the top of that.
So I got a new one coming.
If we're gonna shoot that one,which I gotta get pretty
different painting to shoot.
My wife and I got 12 cats backin the truck.
I ain't gonna lie.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm shooting itfrom now on.
Nothing from now on until I getthat one figured out right or
learned up on it.
I guess you could say I need toorder a red dot myself.
Yeah, well, do you have any?

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Uh, anybody told you anythinggood about any of them?
You just pick one and go whichfirst.
The fastest delivery is what Iclicked on Amazon.
There you go.
So we'll see how that goes.
But no, I've heard the Burrisones and then the Vortex ones
too.
I want to say Logan might shoota Vortex one.
He was telling me about it, heseemed pretty cool.
He'll shoot some Burris, fastfire, I think, yeah.

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But then you get me into themount thing and we are made
there.
Yeah, that's what's weird onthat one.
It's a pin mount.
It mounts to the main pins thatput the gun together.
You're talking Spanish.
You need to get that one tapped.
I don't know what that means.
That's what I'm saying.
You stop at the pin mountbecause I don't know what the
pin mount means.
And tapped, I don't know whatthat means.

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You, the pin mount means andtapped, I don't know what that
means.
You need to get it.
Like a rifle was picatinny, Ihave no idea.
I got a bead.
Oh my god, I like that a littlemore and I thought I didn't
like you know having that option.
Um, simplicity is a lot morebliss right now in my book.
I agree, um, till I get itfigured out.
That's what I'm saying't yourfault, it's me not knowing what

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any of this stuff means.
I don't know very well what itmeans.
I'm just yeah, you need adifferent setup than what you
got.
I guess that's all I'm saying.
A more low profile, like a 12gauge setup.
Yeah, 12 gauge with a bead onit, that's my cup of tea, yeah,

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that.
But anyway, we're coming up onan hour now.
Yeah, should, um, I do think.
Uh, next week's episode mightbe one of those, but not special
, I guess a little special.
Uh, I guess episode a randomepisode, is not of the actual
week that we mentioned.
Um, because I'm going toprobably be at the time of
recapping the wheat.
I should be getting into thewestern side of the world with a

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buddy gear.
So really pumped about that,yep, pumped about that.
Good to see some new things and, yep, one of the only few trips
that I even know about as ofnow and I'm looking forward to
that I, I'm gonna be flying witha gun.
I don't think.
Listen to that before I canreiterate kind of what that

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means hunting when we get there.
But, uh, gotta get all thatstuff figured out case-wise and
everything, because the onlyperson I know I've dealt with
flying with guns is my buddy,jennings Compton, who flew with
a gun to go hunting with me andSeals last year and didn't have
the lock on the gun.
We got a bind there.

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They had to go get some boltcutters.
Oh, he didn't have a key to thelock.
Yeah, he didn't have a key tothe lock.
The gun arrived fine, it's justthe keys were still in the car
in which he drove to the airportwith.
So I immediately went man, I'mglad you did that.
I hate this happened, but I'mglad you did that.
Before I've ever flown with agun, because if there's anyone

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in this world who's going to doexactly that, I'm going to
forget the keys 100%.
I forget the keys to everythingMost times.
I forget the lock to everything.
Yeah, but that's another storyfor another day.
Because, um, yeah, we got a lotto do.
So anyway, I kind of like thewhole recap stuff we're doing
here, and I hope y'all are too,and we appreciate all the

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reviews and stuff on apple andspotify.
I forget to show spotify somelove every now and then.
Uh, I think we we get a goodchunk of our stuff actually does
come from Spotify breaking downthe charts and stuff, but last
week we were up in top fiveagain on the Apple charts.
So certainly appreciate you alldoing that and spreading the
word and awareness and chimingin and interacting and those

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reviews and stars and stuff thatseem meaningless go a long way.
It puts it in front of more andmore eyes.
We can definitely tell whenfolks aren't reacting well, you
know, reacting well to them.
So we appreciate y'alllistening and we'll see you next
week on the spring legendpodcast.
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