Grammy Recap: Cowboy Carter Not Like Us

GRAMMY RECAP: Beyonce finally won the elusive Album of the Year at the Grammys for Cowboy Carter and "Not Like Us" won every catagory it was nominated in at five. What does this mean for Kendrick versus Drake and and what does Beyonce winning Album of the Year for a country album really say?  

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of stuff like, for example, super Bowl week, but we'll
get into that a little bit. That's not even that's
not even any of my three topics that I wanted

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to run into they believe it or not, you know,
my Eagles in the super Bowl. But that's not even
the top three from this weekend that I really want
to get into, even though we are in super Bowl week.
But we'll get to that a little bit later. So
I want to start with the one. Like the timeline
of content I'm telling you is, I don't even know
how I want to start this because I know the

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last thing that I want to do because I know
it would be it's something that I'm super hype about.
I know that people in this community of people is
also hype about it, but I know my audience might
not be all the way into it. So I know
I'm gonna do that topic last. So then it's between
these two iconic earth shattering type topics, you know what

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I mean, one sports, one music. The you know what,
I think, We're just gonna go ahead and do what
we're supposed to do because we are entertainment music podcasts first.
So even though the story that I want to want
to do is something that's like super duper impactful, is
super what's the word I'm looking for it just basically

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it's the talk of the talk, like this is the
talk of the talk, and then that became the talk
of the talk. But it'sn't two different lands. So I
think we can tackle it. So let's go ahead and
go to the Grammys real quick. A lot of the
things that we predicted or that we said that you know,
would happen, did happen, and not as far as all
all the categories go, but as far as storylines and

(04:04):
things of that nature. Listen, let me re explain what
I'm talking about. If you didn't go back and listen
to the Grammy Week podcast episodes that we did last week,
Beyonce was nominated for eleven nominee let's say nominated, but
eleven categories nominated for whatever, and one of them was

(04:24):
Album of the Year. Now, Beyonce has the most Grammy
wins by any artists, any male, female, pop, R and
B country. Like I said on the last pod, she
has more Grammys than anybody who's ever walked into a
recording studio and picked up an instrument or sang into

(04:45):
a microphone. She is the leader but has yet to
win Album of the Year, which is like the the
Grammys is the super Bowl of music, but the Grammy
the Album of the Year is kind of like the
MVP more or less, you know, I know, maybe saying

(05:05):
Artists of the Year might be more of an MVP.
But the prime real estate, the prime award that you
want to win is that Album of the Year. Beyonce
won that. Congratulations to her. So that was one of
the storylines that we had going on. And then also

(05:26):
Kendrick lamar how much or how bad do you hate Drake?
You have to hate Drake so much? It's kind of
like when you see a fight going on and you
just stopped the fight, like, okay, all right, chill, chill,
you made your point. That's kind of what it would
have been if Kendrick might not have won some of
the categories. But he did a clean sweep every category

(05:51):
that not like us was nominated for one clean sweep.
Now the mad people will say he went five for five.
I'm like, no, technically he went five for seven, but
he beat himself. Two nominations for Kendrick with Future and
a Metro Bollman on like that. He had two nominations

(06:15):
for that as well, so he had it to all
the seven. Obviously he got five for five for you know,
not like us, and you know he didn't get the
whole I mean, get the point I'm making it with
math that he didn't sweep because he didn't win everything
he was nominated for, but he did. But anyway, that's
a whole other you know, like clusterfuck of shit to
talk about that's not even really important, but it's just

(06:36):
something to fuck around with. The fucking around. So the
content that we have today centered around that. These was
the things that I wanted to get into if this
would have happened. Let's start with Beyonce. Beyonce also won
I think she wanted to gram me with Miley Soris.
They had like a collapse situation going on that was
on the car that was on the Cowboy Carter album,

(06:56):
and she won Country Album of the Year at the Grammys.
So one of the things that I wanted to bring
up was, so does that make up for her not
winning it at the Country Music Awards, because my thing
about Beyonce and Cowboy Carter is that, Okay, let me

(07:18):
let me backtrack real quick, let me stay on this
point real quick. She didn't win at the Country Music
Awards and the Country Music Awards is supposed to be
the thing that is country. It's in Nashville. It's the
country people. It's really the essence of country. It's kind
of like saying like the b ET Awards, I mean,

(07:39):
not in the same exact lane, but a hip hop
awards show. Like I said, like the b ET Awards,
that's more centered towards hip hop and R and B.
You know, that's what the Country Music Awards is so
in the genre that strictly all countries is not intermingled
like the Grammys are anything like that or the MTV Awards.
It's it's it's just the country people. Beyonce didn't get

(08:03):
no nothing at all. It was like, you know, are
the people in country giving her a fair shot? YadA, YadA,
all this other stuff, you know what I mean, should
she have done this? How is this gonna look for
her winning you know, the Grammy? Like if you didn't
win Album of the Year, you know, in your own
Genres award show, how are you gonna win the Grammy.

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So that was kind of like the back end talk
that was going about it, you know, with Beyonce going
into the Grammys and again she wins an Album of
the Year at the Grammy's congratulations. Here's the deeper conversation
that I want to have. Why did Beyonce have to
go outside of her genre to win Album of the
Year and not know when she won Record of the

(08:49):
Year for Texas hold them she was mentioning, no, no,
not text all, I'm sorry when she won album a
country Album of the Year, excuse me for cal called it.
She said that, you know, genress is just code for
you know, keeping people in their boxes and keeping people
in their places, all of that, which is one hundred
percent true, but it still doesn't negate the fact that

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Beyonce's core fan base are hip hop and R and
B heads, her core fan base are not country music listeners.
The simple fact that, according to the you know the Beehive,
Lemonade and Renaissance were elite albums that should have won Grammys.

(09:33):
The singles on those albums, I don't have to go
back through them and tell them. You guys already know
what they is. They were spectacular. But you know what,
just for the sake of of journalism, real quick, let's
go back and see the nominees that was there. Because
this is why I want to bring this up because

(09:58):
if you think about the albums that Renaissance and Lemonade
were in, could you have said that those projects was
better than Renaissance or better than Lemonade. That's why we
would have to go back and fact check to double
check to see if that's accurately or you know, true.

(10:18):
Then we can go into the Grammys of this year
and see was Cowboy Carter a lot better than the
albums that were mentioned. Now, I thought it was just
gonna be like, Oh, They're gonna just get her Taylor
swift for the win, you know, the Swifties is outside
or whatnot. And I mean I would like, I'm not
a consumer of Beyonce. I'm not in the Beehive or

(10:40):
nothing like that. You know what I'm saying. I'm just
a fan of Beyonce, you know what I'm saying from afar,
But I'm not like in the be have or whatever.
But I was surprised because I felt the way that
the country music community kind of shaded her a little bit.

(11:01):
Because let's start off with when Texas Hold Them just
came popping as a song, people in the country music world,
you know, fans of country music who knew Beyonce was
doing a country music album is calling, you know, the
country station like, hey, we want to hear Beyonce Texas.
Hold them. We want to hear Beyonce Texas. Hold them,
And the country music DJs and program directors are like,

(11:22):
we are a country music station. We don't play Beyonce. Now.
At first, I had to think about it and I
had to be like, Okay, either these dudes is real
racist or they don't know that Beyonce is doing a
country song. The latter happened. I'm not saying that the
former couldn't have happened, but the big consensus was the
latter happened. They didn't know Beyonce was doing a country song.

(11:46):
It wasn't on their radar that Beyonce was doing a
country song. And I said, even then, that is irresponsible
of you as a program director. If one of the
biggest musical acts is coming into your gen under to
do music stand you get that and you be the
first one to get that and see what's really good

(12:06):
with that. And they didn't do their due diligence at
all to do anything with that. So that's just messed
up on them. Now again, we played it on our airwaves,
you know, on you know, urban radio whatnot, because again,
it is Beyonce. It does have you know, a bop
and a soul to it or whatever. We didn't play
it that long though, I'm not going caps to you.

(12:27):
We didn't play it that long. I think it primarily,
you know, played on the pop station and the country station.
We like I said, we dipped our toe in it,
but I guess it didn't stick that well because again,
it's a country song. It's not a hip hop and
R and B song. You know, we for Beyonce. We
put it in the algorithm so it can get excuse me,

(12:47):
some extra juice, but it can, it can. It can
only do what to do. So her Beyonce's core fans
are hip hop and R and B fans, she had
to go out of her genre to do Cowboy Carter. Now,
if you're saying that, and again this would be messed

(13:08):
up to say you Beyonce and hip hop and R
and B make this too easy musically. We don't see
anything creative. It's just whatever you're not gonna get album with, which, okay,
you say running songs, Lemonade, she does Cowboy Carter, she
has to link up with, you know, country artists. I

(13:28):
don't know if we're considering post Malone a country artist
because he was just rapping with us, So he's kind
of like the opposite of Beyonce in this particular instance.
We let post Malone into our rap community. Country music
let Beyonce in your community anyway. So let's just say,
for the sake of argument, because post Malone's be on
his country stuff, link up with post Malone, link up

(13:50):
with Miley Cyrus. Think you got to track with Shabusi,
you know what I mean, another black guy doing country anyway,
So you know the writers as well. In producing, you
know Cowboy Carter. So it's like she put into work
to produce a country album and it was successful enough

(14:11):
for her to win a Grammy again, congratulations tour, but
her core fans may not have felt Cowboy Carter like
they have felt other projects. So you're basically telling Beyonce fans.
You're telling the Beehive that, yeah, the music that she

(14:34):
did for you guys is cool, but the music that
she really wants this award for is gonna come from
country music. She's a country music artist. That's one album
of the Year, not hip hop and R and B.
So we can go through all of you know, the
bangers that Beyonce has had all throughout time, but none

(14:58):
of that matters in the big scheme of things because
the album that she created that won a Grammy for
Album of the Year was not even in the genre
of music that you listen to. It was in country.
And I think I have more of a huger issue
with that than the simple fact that she wanted, because
she should have been wanted. But again, she had to

(15:21):
do the song and dance and conform and all of
that stuff. Because I'll say this before I ended too,
she's from Texas. Cool. Granted, she's from Houston. That's not Austin,
that's not El Paso, that's not even San Antonio. She's
from Houston. So yeah, if she wanted to do country music,
she probably wouldn't have had the opportunity to do country

(15:44):
music because of the type of stuff that she would
have had to go through to do country music at
a young age. So yeah, country music, thank you for
you know, allowing her to do Cowboy Called and giving
her her Grammy for Album of the Year. But nah,
she should have wanted for the music that was I

(16:05):
would say natural flowing to her, because again you have
to remember she has to learn country music. It's like
it's like it's like I speak English, because I do
speak English, and I'm debating in a debate club setting,
and I get an opportunity to debate in Spanish. But

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I got to learn Spanish in like a very quick
turnaround of a time. I learned it, I master it,
or at least I learned it enough to basically win
my competition. That's the equivalent of what the I cancel.
We can say the Grammy's made her do, or what
Beyonce had to do to win the award that she
wanted to win. And because of that, congratulations to Beyonce.

(16:53):
I'm glad that she got exactly what she wanted and
what she worked for. What I'm saying is she shouldn't
have had to done that because her previous body of
work was well good enough to win a Grammy. This
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finishing off the Grammy conversation real quick before we had
jumped into something else. Kendrick Lamar swept everything at the Grammys.
He swept it all. He picked up everything. Now. I
gave the analogy and before the break about if you

(18:43):
win a fight and you know, you see someone fighting
and you basically stopped the fight to's like, okay, bro,
you made your point. He's down, he's dead, whatever, whatever.
That's what the Grammys could have did you know for Drake, Like,
you know, he didn't have to Kendrick didn't have to
win all them Grammys. He didn't have to win all
them shits, you know I'm saying. And it was out
in La two Oh wait. That was just a bad situation,

(19:05):
and it basically just let everyone know, like because this
is the thing rap beef is in the rap community.
You know, I take you back in the day, you know,
when you know somebody had like the CD of Rap
Beef for whatever, you know what I'm saying, tracks back
and forth for a mix tape with some trap with
some beef and shit on it. And that's basically a

(19:30):
small niche of people had it until they copied it,
dubbed it, and then more people had it, but a
small niche of people knew about a lot of these
rap beefs and stuff. It was, it was, it was
a in a world of itself. It's the sword that
I like to call it. You mean, and now when
you think about rap beefs and stuff, not like us

(19:52):
just won a Grammy and it won every nomination that
it was in. That is a big fuck you to Drake.
No one tried to spare Drake any feelings or anything
like that because Kendrick was not just nominated as Best
Rap Performance, Best Rap Song, you know, Song of the Year,

(20:16):
like in three of the five nominations. He was nominated
in song when categories with music from other genres. So
this wasn't like he just did all of the rap
categories and that was it. Nah, he got all of
them joints. So what I'm saying is going back to

(20:37):
my analogy about you know, the CDs and stuff like that.
When you consume at rap beef, that's a small niche
and of a small group of people. This display of
fuck you Drake was on a world stage, on a
Grammy stage. It wasn't just the rappers or the rap
community that saw that shit. The country community saw that shit.

(21:00):
The rock and roll people saw that shit. The Latin
people saw that ship. The jazz people saw that shit.
The spiritual gospel people saw that shit. The spoken word
motherfuckers saw that shit. Every genre of motherfuckers who grabbed
the microphone and stepped into a booth and spit in

(21:21):
it or sung into a microphone saw that ship. Saw
Kendrick Lamar just basically brutally beat up Drake on the
stage over and over and over again. The nomina the
winner is Kendrick Lamar. Not like us, They're not like us.

(21:42):
They're not like us. And then like I think, after
he won the fifth when everyone was singing a minor
like the Again, this isn't the This isn't the b
ET Awards. This isn't the Our Heart Radio Hip Hop Awards.
Oh sorry, I just made up something our Heart doesn't have.
But they may need to get that one day. We'll
talk about that later. This isn't the BET Hip Hop Awards.

(22:02):
This isn't even the Source Awards from back in the day.
Damn for sure, is not the Sole Training Awards from
back in the day. This is the Grammys for every
genre music. It's so much genre music. Chris Brown won
R and B Album of the Year at the Grammys
and nobody knew about it because it wasn't on TV.
You had to follow the Grammys on Twitter or x

(22:24):
How if you get down in these digital streets to
go ahead and find that shit out. Here's the deal.
Drake career as a rapper is over after what the
world has witnessed. Like I said, Drake, can't go into

(22:46):
the pop world and infiltrade that shit. They know who
you are now, Oh, ain't you the dude that Kendrick
Lamar got like five Grammys on Again, Let's go back
and talk about that real quick. A this track. I
was hollering that cube a couple of months ago when
he was coming to Ohio for the Big Three and

(23:09):
the Ohio State Fair. I asked him about beef tracks
to whatever. He said, Yeah, man, when the BF track
is a hit, that makes it all the more better.
And this cannot be any more of a testament to that.
The man won. And again you had to remember the
song came out towards the Big the middle of summer.

(23:34):
It was like the middle of it was like the
middle of summer. It's like around like July ish so on.
So from the back end of summer all the way
until now, not like us was legit popping. The Man
is performing at the super Bowl, which again we're gonna
talk about the super Bowl. Try to get that sometime
this week for show. We're gonna talk about the super Bowl.

(23:56):
So the Man gets all of those Grammys. Everyone's screaming
day like us. They not like us a minor like
just going in. And again, this is not just the
rap community. This is the Swifties. This is the beehive.
Fucking if Miley Cyrus has a click, you know, I mean,

(24:17):
it's them motherfuckers too. It's the country music people, it's
the rock and roll people. It's the jazz people. They
might be playing not like us, the jazz version, some
saxophones and shit, it's that type of party right now.
And I don't I mean, obviously, Drake has money, Drake
has music, Drake has talent. He can come back from

(24:38):
it in any form of way that he can come
back from it. I heard he has a part of
album with Party next Door. It's supposed to be coming
out like a little collab project. If he's hoping for
Party next Door to save him. Even though Party next
Door does good music, he does good writing as well.
If he's depending on Party next Door to getting him
back into the music stream, he has already fucking lost

(25:03):
just saying. Though it ain't like Party next Door has
a huge national fan base. He has one of those
you know, cult like following people like if you know,
you know when you fuck with him, But it ain't
fucking major production. He on the radio all the time
and all of this other shit. And I mean, like, nah,
it's not even at that type of party, but Party
next door, the party's next door. But anyway, the whole

(25:25):
point is that he Drake is not coming back from
this like in a rap sence for real, for like
it is pretty much and any just think about any
defeats in rap beef. The defeat was never as public.
It was just like I say, it was kind of
like you know, like I get it. I give you
this example. So the nineties, early two thousand's eighties, before

(25:50):
before cell phones recording, everyone has cell phones with cameras.
You again, into a fight, somebody get beat up or
be a tough or whatever whatever. Everybody go home. The
only people who knew about the fight with the people
who is there. What goes on in fight club stays
in fight club. And that wasn't even really fight club.
It was just just how fighting worked back you know,

(26:12):
before everyone had cell phones with cameras. Now you get
your ass beat. It's on camera. Everybody across the world
sees it. Everybody has a comment, everybody has jokes. That's
the equivalent of what just happened. Kendrick beat Drake in

(26:33):
front of a national audience with the camera phones out,
everybody streaming it, everyone's commenting, everybody's reposting it. Wherever it was.
Back in the day, he would just lose. The streets
would know, and we'll keep it moving. The civilians, the
regular people, everybody else wouldn't have known. That's what it
was back in the day. Now it's not like that

(26:56):
no more. Kendrick on a national stage literally just spank Drake.
And again that might not even be over because he
gets a chance to do it again at the Super Bowl,
spank him again anytime he can perform this song or
anytime he gets recognition for that song. It's a smack

(27:19):
in the face of Drake. I love it, Fuck Drake.
But the point is is that this disc record that
he did sweeping the Grammys. It doesn't set a precedent
because I don't think that a precedent like this could
be set again for a dis track to go so

(27:40):
hard that it wins a Grammy, Like you have to
be a real creative person. Now you have to remember
the Beef had a lot of songs going back and forth,
Like you know, Drake could have had something that could
have held on as well. If I could give Drake
some bail money and I don't really want to, but

(28:01):
I like to be fair. If I was to say
that there was a knock on Kendrick in the rap battle,
it's the fact that Drake doesn't have a daughter, and
in one of Kendrick's distracts, he was rapping to the daughter.
Now I feel like if that's true, that there is
no daughter and that I mean, I mean, I think

(28:22):
it is true, but I'm just speaking just you know,
if I was in that moment, there there's no if
there is no daughter, and that information was fed and
he bit on it and he went in on it,
which again him going in on it was great, but
it was fake that I would dock points for that,
But again that's just me, but nobody else gives a
folk because that goes back into if the streets was

(28:46):
monitoring this, if it wasn't just the regular world. The
regular world don't give a fuck. The regular world just
wants to be entertained, and not like us, entertained for
a lot of people. So we have to put that
in perspective and give it that respect as well. But
I told y'all those two conclusions. You know, we're watching

(29:11):
the Grammys to see if Cowboy Carter wins Album of
the Year. It did. We're watching the Grammys to see
if Kendrick can sweep his nominations for Not Like Us
and or how bad do you Hate Drake? And that
got accomplished too. I can honestly say that this Grammys

(29:34):
was entertaining just because of those two storylines for me personally. Also,
what I noticed about the Grammys is the Grammys is
like walking through J. C. Penney, Like I'm hearing music,
I'm like, oh, oh, was it Freddy Twin or Twin whatever?
You know what I'm saying that the big dude doesn't
me like, I'm like, oh, that's like because again, you know,

(29:56):
you're going through the store and all of that shit.
It'd be like, oh, that's okay cool, So okay, everybody
can anybody can sing with soul now type shit. You
know what I mean. I'm hearing, you know, other little
songs and shit like oh that's the Molly, Oh that's
Molly Cyrus singing us. Oh okay, Like you know, you
just hear these different songs. I'm like, Okay, So the
Grammys is like walking through J. C. Penney, walking through

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Macy's or any type of store like that. Okay, cool.
You'll be like again, do I personally like it? No,
but you know I get it. I guess later on
this week we're gonna continue to Grammy Talk because I
want to I want to really like break down more information.
I want to really get like the paperwork and stuff
like that. But we already ran like thirty minutes over.
We're not thirty minutes over around like thirty minutes, so

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we want to run it a little bit over the
podcast or time whatever. But later on during the week,
we're gonna have a DJ three two one. We're gonna
have a little bit more deeper dive into the Grammy Talk.
And yeah, so we're just gonna go ahead keep that
thing running like that, so it's always the SS experience.
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