March 11, 2025 • 44 mins
The Coach Mo Show and The SS Experience brings you a conversation with Former WNBA Player and current Pro Player Te'a Cooper. We start off with recapping ECSU's first round exit in the CIAA Tournament. Te'a has played for hall of fame coaches and historic programs in college. If you are a college player or a professional player who wants to step up their game, listen to this interview.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to the SS Experience on sn.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
G recording and progress. What up?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Though, As a matter of fact, why am I starting
to show like I could start the show like that.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're doing a simulcast right now.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
No, I'm saying, we got the SS Experience, we got
the coach Mo Show. We got Elizabeth City Universities Women's
Associate head Coach coach Mo in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's his show.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
No, I mean, but I'm just here for the ride.
We're still playing on the Sex Experience. Oh, Coach was
good you bro?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
All is good, man, All is good. Just just looking
forward to today. Appreciate some things you're trying to get.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Finish.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Finish the set up process. Man, it's you know, just
my make Shire Studio getting it right.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
That's all getting it right.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, man, I have the luxury of using multi million
dollar facilities here at our heart. Shout out to them
for all of this little stuff that's set up here dope.
If everybody was here, man, there's mikes and stuff set
up at pretty dope. So we're gonna have a special
guest on the pod in a few minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We just running a little bit late, but.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's it's early for us, it's later for her, but
it is what it is though, So Coach, while we
waiting for our guests to hop on real quick, let's
go ahead and run and talk about the c I
Double A tournament. I mean, I don't have to mention
our ladies came in second place, you know, runner up
(01:30):
type situation.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It kind of sucks.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
We had a good season, but I guess it don't
matter if it don't win the championship. I've been there
plenty of times before. H So just give us your
thoughts and your feelings of this wannament.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, the tournament overall was a pretty good experience, man,
just just they do. They do a great job in
the city of Baltimore, hosting and making sure things are right.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Can I pause it for a second? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Can I pause it?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Broke?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Yeah, you got a second. I just gotta grab something
real quick.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
No, no, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
So while coach which just grabbing what he gotta grab
real quick, we got a real special guest that's gonna
be on the show. I kind of don't want to
do the intro of the person because they I'm gonna
have to do it again. But if you've been on
our social media is you know who is gonna be
in the building or not in the building, who's gonna
be virtually checking in with us, So definitely make sure
that you enjoy what we got going on.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So a lot of things in basketball has been popping off.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Like I said, we're doing a simulcast right now, the
SS Experience Podcast and.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
The Coach Most Show.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We're gonna have a good bit of basketball conversation that
we're gonna be running. And I don't know why I
have to sign into my other tablet real quick to
get our emails up real quick. But coach is back,
So Coach, go ahead and let us know. I mean,
I know the tournament didn't go exactly the way that
you wanted it to, so you know, thoughts, feelings, things
(02:52):
that you're looking forward to next year and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Well, it definitely didn't go as planned, man, but we
definitely want to We're gonna we're gonna rebuild our first
year as a coaching staff there and got a lot
of support from the school, a lot of support from
the fans. So you know, it was it was our
first year there. Now it was time to build. You know,
we came in kind of like July June. It's so,
you know, we had a short summer on recruiting players,
which typically happens with new coaches unless you get hired
(03:17):
around you know, March April. But when once you get
hired in that later stage of the other process, it
becomes a it's just a little tougher to start the year.
But I love our young ladies. I love the squad
that we had. You know, you know, we had a
lot of injuries, a lot of ups and downs throughout
the year, but we came out in a position to
you know, put ourselves in position to be successful, and
it didn't work out that way. So each year that's
(03:38):
the goal to put yourself in position to be successful,
and we I believe we put the right things in
our young ladies, and I believe they played their hardest.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
It just didn't work out in our favor.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Who is the individual on your squad that's going to
take you to the next level next year?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
M hm, were losing nine, brother, we're losing this damn Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
So our freshman, our freshman Jada Clark, came in with
a lot of great experience, played very hard from a
hard nosed team in school in the seven five seven area,
manor a lot of respect for her and the coaches
and the staff and what they do over there. We
all actually offered another one of her teammates this year
just because we love their style, We love what she brought.
She had opportunity to start a couple of times this year,
(04:21):
and we think that that she she's gonna be the
future of the program. She was the only freshman okay, okay,
so you know her, with her being our only freshman,
it was it was it put us in position to
you know, her to get a lot of experience, like
I said, with the injuries and things like that.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
So we're playing on her being the star in the future.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Okay. And what position does you play?
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Combo play, some point guard play, some play, some point
guard play, some play some two. You know, she just
she just plays hard man. It does it all, and
we love that about her.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
We want to continue to want to continue to put
her in position to be successful.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Okay, Okay, okay, what is so what other off season situation?
Because I know you're chilling right now, you're on the pod.
You know you're about to personally with you though, like
what's the off season regiment a boy to be like
with you personally, like you know, as a coach when
I say personally.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Mm hm, Well, first of all, we got to recruit.
We gotta get these players. I've been heavy on the
phone and on the line. So if y'all know any transfers,
d you one transfer, d two transfers that want to
come and get an HBCU experience with two great coaches,
great campus, great facilities, and a great location about an
hour from Virginia Beach.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Uh we we We're We're in.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
North Carolina, about two hours from Raleigh, so we're in
a good spot with a nice size campus.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
The accommodations are great. You know. We actually re renovating
the gym.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
So my my goal is to recruit right now, bring
in some players that's want to feel some of the
voids we have had last year with rebounding and some
ball handling.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
But other than that, we we we I have.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
A cancer that I'm going to have and also I'm
going to be training, so I'm going to be going
a lit of that, a lot more than I've done
in the past this summer. So on campus, we'll be
having an elite camp. We'll probably have a couple maybe
a shooting camp in the Biggs camp. Those three camps
are going to happen on our campus, so be looking
out for that.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Also have a couple pro pro training.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Camps that I'm going to do start up with my company,
Prep Prep Pros, which comes with a lot of things
on the umbrella, which are you know, consulting with high
school and college players and families, and also, like I said,
a lot of training this summer. I'm putting the pro
I'm bringing the pro style training to the amateurs, So
I'll be out there a lot this summer. So look
out for those flyers on Instagram, ig wherever you you
(06:37):
know you do your potting or whatever it is you
do your socials, So be looking out for that. There'll
be a flyer coming out and there will tell you
everything about the pro style camp that I'm bringing to
the amateurs.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
What's the transfer portal like? Is it really like a website?
Where is it like a whole bunch of names and statistics?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
What is really what is really like the transfer portal?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Okay, so the transfer portal is let me break that down.
Transfer portal is like a three part monster okay, and
and I'm just off the top of my head, I'm
breaking this down. I never broke it down like this.
But the transfer portal are grad transfers that want an
opportunity to win the championship, play on a bigger stage,
get to the league, things of that nature.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
You have.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
You have players that are unhappy, that want to leave,
want to get more time, more minutes, more more, bigger role.
And then you have people that should not be in
the transfer portal of no sort, like you're you're you're
taking yourself out of an opportunity to go seek the
opportunity that's not there.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
And I and I don't want to sound negative in.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
That way, but what I'm saying is that the grass
isn't always greener. And even if your grass is a
little brown now, come spring, it could be greener. But
if you have bought that grass and you go to
across the street to the other person's grass, their grass
might not get green at all. So it's a I
(08:00):
think you should do what's best for you, but I
think you need to assess what's actually best for you
versus this is what makes you happy every day. This
is important, but happiness can't be the all time goal, right,
So when.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You in the transfer portal, like what like, what what
are you looking for in the in the transfer portal
when you're trying to you know, pick and choose. You know,
these grad transfers or these individuals who want to transition
to bigger roles.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Well, well, I would advise players first and foremost, if
you put yourself in transfer a portal, you should reach
out to schools to where you want to go to.
So most kids want to come closer to home, you know,
which is good for us because seven five seven o
Carolina puts out a lot of talent. But as far
as what I'm looking for in the transfer report, I'm
looking for girl for females that want to come home.
First of all, you know that that I even either
recruited before and they were too high level for the
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school I was at, or they felt like they were
too high or then I'm going to go to other
young ladies and d two that have been successful that
I recruited maybe, and then I'm looking for best best
available to fill our boys what we need. You know,
we want bringing players are gonna fill out void size,
rebound and shooting things like that. So I'm gonna be
heavy in the portal looking for those kinds of people
(09:07):
that are going to contribute to the program.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
In that way.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Okay, so we have our guests that is about to
be on, but I need to reset. I need to
reset this because we're gonna lose the you know what,
this's is running real quick.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Hopefully we can just make this thing work.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Why so we got a full all right, bet so
hopefully this doesn't mess up.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
But if I mess up, our hit or back.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So when we get back, we're gonna have our guest
on The coach Mo Show and the SS Experience, we'd
be right back.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You're listening to the SS Experience on S and G.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
What up though, y'all know what y'all listening to.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's another edition of the coach Mo Show with Elizabeth
City State Universities Women's head Associate head coach. But I
don't know why I said head twice Coach Maurice Sumter.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You know what I'm saying. The SS Experience with your
boy Henry Hardaway.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
We got a special guest on the on the show today.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Coach Man. You your first your.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
First show on the SMG podcast network app You got
a real dope guest. You know what I'm saying, that's
on deck. You know what I'm saying, Man, Very good work,
very good work that you got going on. This is
he look, this is your show. But I'm trying to
be humble, know what I'm saying. You gotta let everybody
know that I put into work. But I'm trying to
be humble, you know what I'm saying. But we have
a real dope guest on the show right now. We
(10:24):
have a former w NBA player, current professional basketball player,
social media influencer, entrepreneur, and basically all around dope chick.
I mean, I'm not gonna try to pronounce the name
of the team that you play for now because I
don't want to butcher it. But we got the Lovely
Tail Cooper on the s S Experience and the Coach
most show.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
How you doing today, man, I'm doing good. Say to
the year, okay, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So, as I mentioned, Coach Moe coaches women's basketball for
in the HBCU in the c I Double A Elizabeth
City State University.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So coach Man, go ahead talk basketball. You know what I'm saying.
Let's go ahead and get this thing going.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Oh, we definitely can. So where do we start.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I mean, you played for Don Staley and Milky and
you went to the historical Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
So your experience and.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Level of probably IQ is so far beyond most players
that even play with just one of them.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
And now you get to translate that over and it's
taken you to the league.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
So to just I mean, give us anything with a
fly on the wall would appreciate being in the room
with either one of those or whichever one of those
three historical experiences.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
So my freshman year, I would say, being at Tennessee,
I think the biggest thing was if you're gonna do it,
do it, and once you step into the lines, you
know what I'm saying, you hear, you might as well
lock in and give it all you got. And that
came from practice, workouts, individual sessions, all types of things.
(12:00):
And this really was just always coming in and giving
us good advice on you know, just mentally preparing yourself
for what you choose to step into once you get
on the lines. And I had just tore my ACL
leaving Tennessee and I had to sit out, but I
(12:21):
got to watch Asia.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
And I got to be coached.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
By Dawn and you know the other coaches there.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
But the biggest part was hard to love me.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
That life was pretty much eighty ninety percent mental and
the rest was physicality was in shape, I was strong,
all that stuff, but I think mentally, just really realizing
how the other stuff going on, or you worried about
yourself and not about.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
The greater good of the team and stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
I think that just getting a hold of your mental
was pretty big in South Carolina, being in that sit
out like nine hundred or something days, and then going
to Baylor and being coached by Kim.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
I think that that time of my life.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
You break it up when I am I'm sorry. I
thought it was just me.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
So it rock, but I heard I was hoping. It
sounded like it was about to clear up a little bit.
That's why let me not interrupt, and we'll just do
it in post production real quick.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
But let's say we can just keep it rolling real quick.
So I just want to be she.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Said before we move on, because I know it chopped
up for the audience, but but yeah, she talked about
you talked about being in there with Kim and then
you call her canvas.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
I don't know where it's Candas. I know where it's
Ms Parker or Candas.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
The whole name the female CP three.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Yeah, yeah it is Candace.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I mean we're initiated, we know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
But yeah, Don Stealey, and you said you said something important.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I definitely don't want to reach over the ninety percent
mental ten percent physical, because that's something to me as
a coach. And I wrote a book as well, and
I preach that in the book. Is because we only
work on the physical ten percent. I mean, work on
the minteal ten percent, work on the physical ninety percent.
But the game is ninety percent mental and ten percent physical.
So now we kind of see why the game is
(14:20):
where it is in a lot of ways because of
the energy we put into the two percentages. But I
thought it was big to point out and I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
That's that's love, right, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I just want to make sure I didn't read the
Internet wrong.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Your coach in Tennessee was Coorge Warlick, Right, Okay, cool,
Because I want to play I want to play off.
I want to play a fun game called you know
what I'm saying. You used the first thing, So let's
do it that way, Holly, Dawn or Kim. I'm gonna
give you three questions and you tell me which coach
is best associated with the question. So we're gonna start
with something light work. Who is your harshest coach? Harsh
(14:55):
means of what you in practice, the same thing you
you a you in practice, and she's the type stuff.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
No, I mean, okay, I will say I feel like
the assistant coaches kind of do all that, so like, yeah,
it's I would say that assistant coaches do that more.
I think that the head coach is more like off
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the court.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
In your office.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Okay, for all.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
The schools, I would have to say the assistant coaches.
But I think Boyer is very consistent with being on
your ass in practice and that.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Okay, okay, I got, I got, I got two one this.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
These are a little bit more fun for you if
you was on the if you was on the run
right now, who would you call for help?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Holly Donner, Kim.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Damn, Holly down or Kim Man. It depends where I'm at.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
If I'm anywhere near South Carolina, I'm talking about three
hours four hours away, I'm going with Don If I'm
in New Orleans somewhere, but Texas deep Waco.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
I'm going with him.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Okay, okay, okay, one one last one real quick. You're
right a cookout. Who would you not question that made
the potato salad? Holly Donal.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Might got some she might got some recipes.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
We don't never know. No, say she got the swagle deck.
Those saying she might got some seasoning.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
I ain't seen nothing, not None of them cook. And
we and you know what I'm saying. You have team
meetings that they house.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
You go to the house. I ain't seen none of
them cook.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
That is funny.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
So coach a roll or nothing?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Right, not a roll, not not not not a Peter
Collar greens or nothing. What I'm saying, coach man, go ahead,
drive you back to basketball. I know you you're into
mental health exactly.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah, definitely the mental health. So I played overseas in
three years as well.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I played in Holland, Portugal, in Massachot So yeah, I've
been early so you know the life. So some days
I would wake up and not know where I was at,
like literally, and I don't mean that being funny. I
mean like I had to wake up in the morning
and just be like, oh, like, it's so different than
what I'm used to or what I've you know, been
with the past couple years. How is your mental over there,
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being away from family and your new mother as well,
so your support system and things like that.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
How is it for you mentally on the day to
day or week to week, month and month.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Well, I'm gonna say the good part. The good part is,
you know what I'm saying, You leave.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Home, you get a break.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I had been home for three years, so me being
over here and getting a break, and you know what
I'm saying, seeing a new city, eating different food, traveling,
I think that's dope for sure.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
On the other side, I.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Will say, being the only American on the team, you
don't have much to say. And if you are some
who is out going or you know what I'm saying,
you feed off talking to people in interactions.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
It's hard because you're silence.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
You're not silent, but you are silent a lot of
the time. So like, unless you're practically you're saying screen scraying,
are running or doing some type of basketball talk.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
After that, everybody speaks French, so you don't have nothing
to say.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
And it's hard to explain yourself, so you really just
type it in an app and then you go home
and it's quiet because they're sleep my side, my side
where my family is, they're sleep So then by the
time I get sleepy, they're up and I'm sleepy.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
So I go three four days without talking to you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
And that's the hard part because you need that, like,
you just need that them conversations.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
You need people.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
You just need people, period, and you don't have especially
when you're doing three days and you're getting beat up
in practice and you everything on you and it gets hard.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
For sure, for sure, for sure, I know exactly what
you mean.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
And then we didn't have all this internet when have
like Instagram, FaceTime, we had like Skype, and had a
five thousand dollars cell phone bill my first month, So like,
I get it. And you know, people when I watch
movies like that so religant to you in the locker
room when the coaches talking, they talking in their language
and you just sending their time, your shoes and doing.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
The language.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
You don't even know.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
You're starting to.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
My teammate, you just tapped the team on the side like,
what are you saying?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Literally, our teammates be trying to translate.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, yeah, no, that that's that's that's hilarious. So you're
overseas right now.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So again I've been I've been following your career since
the bubble in twenty twenty. I saw you last year
in Athletes Unlimited. So you know, in America, uh, there's
been more professional women's leagues, so a lot of women
do not have to go overseas. What was your decision
(19:57):
making in, you know, playing overseas versus participating in Athletes
Unlimited or Unrivaled, which is the new league this year.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
I think with me.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Sitting out, I just think that well, first of all, Unrivaled,
I feel like you have to be an active WBA player.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
That's pretty much that roster.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I don't I don't see no, okay, I don't even
I don't even think. I didn't even be that.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
Yeah, but then au, it was just too short. I
think it's like four weeks. So like in order to
get in game shape and get back to you know
what I'm saying, being in professional shape, it's like you
need longer than a month. I think it's like one
or two games a week and overseas just offered more.
It was like it's like four four or five months
(20:42):
they play this practice is unreasonable.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
It's three three days.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
So I mean, you're gonna you're gonna leave in shape,
You're gonna leave with something.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah, I got a guy named Tim Blue out there.
You know you're to Tim Blue in France. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
No, I haven't met nobody other than the staff and
the players.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Oh, okay, got you, got you, got you.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
We though, y'all do what's city you in against tars?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
They say tarbs? I say tarbus.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
I don't know, it's either way.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
He's in Like on hold, try to try to do
it with a French accent? Is it how?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
How how do they sound when they say it turbs?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Tomato tomato?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
No?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I mean so so.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
So we just talked about being in shape, and like
I said, I'm I told my man that I'm starting
a bunch of camps this summer, pro camps basically, so
what do you do? Like what is your routine? When
I say routine, I want to know your daily routine.
Wake up in the morning and eat nutrition and weights,
you know, track and all that stuff. But then also
tell me you're just your preseason routine, how you get
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ready for the season.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
So you want to know what I'm doing right now.
You want to do what I did before?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Now what you do on the day to day based
when wake up in the morning to prepare yourself for
practice day.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
In the game day.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Oh okay, I wake up like two hours before practice,
and I don't like to eat, so I'll eat mangos
before practice. I don't really like a meal. It's too much,
too much running to be that.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Heavy for me.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Then we we I work out before practice. Then we
have practice from eleven to one and that's just straight
full court scrimmaging two hours. So there's that, and then
afterwards we have waits and wait, it's.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Like an our thirty minutes.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Then we have uh individual workouts and that's like our
thirty minutes. But that's like one on ones, getting shot up, contested,
going to the basket, working off, finishing and stuff like that.
So it's not just an easy little workout. You're not
shooting spot up shots. It's deem their like the beginning
of practice. Okay, after that they don't really have to
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treatment here, so it's kind of hard, but they.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Do like that.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, we never never like available.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Man.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
I asked them about ice baths and they told me
that I could go stand in the lake.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I was like, wow, this.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Is that's crazy. That's wow. Stand in the lake like
playing traffic.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
But I wasn't gonna say that, but I was like, huh.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Is lake French for tub? Like what are we talking about? It?
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Got a real video.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
They have a real video out there in the lake
going swimming and playing and that's the ice bath.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
That's crazy. Now, what's your dame day routine? How do
you get in your your mamba mode? Like, how do
you how do you get your your ninety percent ready
for the ten percent you want to do it?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
I would say I take shoot around very serious.
Speaker 7 (24:05):
I go in there and get game shots game speed,
and then we go and take a nap.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Game shots at game speed.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
You just said something that's a ripple wave through basketball
communities across the world.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Game shots at game speed. Thank you for saying it. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
Yeah, because I feel like it's shooting around everybody just
playing around, shooting playing games stuff like that. I need
that part to physically feel like I know how I'm
finna shoot this game.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
So yeah, I would say that and then we go
take a nap.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
I don't really play music. If I do, it's gospel.
Then we get on the bus and yeah, I try
to treat it like practice. So that's the way I
practice is the way I try to play. So I
just lose all like pressure and overthinking and doing too much.
If I just treat it like I treat practice, I
show up, I control my energy, I talk, I do
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all those things and then if it works out of
my favorite dude, hopefully it does.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
But that's just how I approach it.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You said it, man, And to be in a pro
being a form of pro Like I'm trying to get
my college athletes to understand the value of time and
the importance of each shot in the continuous mechanics and
things like that, how each individual moment and shot and
intensity is. And you know, we spend a lot of
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time and empty calories in the gym.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
And I'm not just saying my team, this generation in general.
So you just your time.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
What you're saying in the gym, your time is valuable
and you maximize it.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
What it sounds like, yep, once you clock in, you
clock in, you clock out, you clock out, because it's
more to life than just basketball.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
I will say that. But for the most part, if
you going to clock in, clock in.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Exactly, exactly words words from two professional basketball players on the.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Coach conversation, because not a lot of people can connect
like in this mental space of it, because the good
amateurs don't connect with the pros. Is that bit of
a line that a good amateur and a pro is
that different?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
No doubt?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
So I want to be a tad bit messy, but
not too messy, but just messy enough. On one of our
latest episodes, we talked about a conversation between not a
conversation but a little story between Kim Malkey and Dawn Stay,
which again your college coaches, where Kim Molkey had a
comment about down Staley South Carolina team saying if I
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had ten McDonald's all Americans, and I don't know the
exact quote, but you probably know exactly what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Who side are you on in that situation?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
You on molky side or down Staley's side, Because Dawn
Staley got the players.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
What's the side of what's what's the choosing the side about?
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Is it saying do she have ten McDonald's Americans or
what am I choosing.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
What do you do?
Speaker 7 (26:50):
You do?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
You do you agree that? And coach, you can help
me out with this a little bit. Do you agree that?
When Kim Molkey was like, if I had ten McDonald's
All Americans, I wouldn't And again, I wish I had
to quote more. I kind of wish I had to
quote a little bit more or written down or whatever.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
I think it was more of a tone kind of
thing for me.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
It wasn't necessarily what she said, but she was like, yeah,
when you got ten All Americans, you can do this
that and the third and my response is let me
tell you mine.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
So this made clear up.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
My response was more so, like Kim, you had Tia
Cooper in them, like you had, ain't like you changed,
and like you short on facilities, ain't like you short
on money. You know, so LSU football it's bigger than
South Carolina football.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
So you're gonna get the nil money to get who
you need. So you said that she got ten All Americans.
What are you trying to say that you were undermatched,
underserved under I don't know what's your point of saying that.
I guess that's more of the question.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
My thing was, I just thought she was just being
salty and kind of being a hater a little bit, like, hey,
it is what it is type you know what I mean. So,
but I ain't know if you was kind of like
paying attention that like listening to your old coaches like oh,
come on, kind of like two parents going at it's like,
come on, y'all got out a little bit.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Well.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
I think that in order to have opinions on a
conversation or comment or a situation, you kind of gotta
know people.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
So knowing Kim, I feel like her saying.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
That is you gotta guard all twelve of they, all
twelve of they players like you you can't only have
three or four, or you can't only have two or
three players, Like she's saying, you got ten twelve all Americans,
like your whole team stacked, like that's shit, we gave
our best effort. I don't really I got to hear
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the whole thing, but if I to know her is
to know that she's probably saying like, you got you
got that one through ten all all Americans, Like I
don't think she's trying to be shadier say that. Dawn
had like, hey, I don't think any had anything to
do with Dawn. I think it was her really saying like, nah,
you tough, like you got ten all Americans, like we
had to guard when we couldn't, or some shit like
that because they did lose. But I just don't see
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her throwing shade at Dawn because she genuinely doesn't have
a problem with her.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Okay, but no, Yeah, you just did exactly what we
need you to do. You clarified everything. You fill the
holes for that conversation because I get that, like, Yo,
they got to all Americans.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Man, you gotta guard everybody and everybody everywhere.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But to know, to not
know Kim is like what's she trying to say? But
to know her, it is like, no, that's how she
That's just how she That's how she said, that's how
she talked. That's just I think everything she says is
a but like to know her.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
And be like, yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
As a coach, Yeah and again and again, we had
to have somebody who knew both individuals to you know,
to clarify that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
You know, I mean to put some you know, some
water on the fire.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
A little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
So we definitely appreciate that coach any other basketball ish
type questions because we can have mesty conversations all day.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
But I know we want to definitely keep it with
basketball or whatnot.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
No sense y'are real good pro conversation, keep it cooking,
no loving it.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Like this is this is my my safe zone, my
safe space. But also, so you transferred a couple of times.
What are your as the transfer portal that it's different
than when you were in school kinda?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
But I think you came in the back end the
transfer portal.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Man, my last transfer, they came up with the rule
that you don't got to sit out the transfer after
I sat out damn there three years.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Wow, that's the way.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
So you so you so you so you obviously so
you also missed the nil situation too.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Yes, yes, now you have to think about that. You
can use that Baylor with I don't know you had
to think about it.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I would.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
You're talking about the handshake and I L you're talking.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
About yeah, not that not the briefcase under the table,
n I L.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Man, I missed it. Pissed.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Yeah, I feel you.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
I meet you and me both man, because I definitely
I loved my school, but I would have transferred up
to get a nice band for least.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah, I have like fifteen and seven.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Yeah, all three of them schools.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
You were eighth grade two, that's why.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
So what's up?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
What's what's the n I L opportunity you wish you
could have taken advantage of or that you would have
took advantag Jeb if you was in.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
School, Man, it's not one I wouldn't have. I would
have had all of them. So that's one of them
down to goddamn.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
All for every food on the strip, I would have
had every place everything.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
I would have been like that.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Oh yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Hey, I was gonna ask you, but but definitely as
far as playing career, as far as what do you
want out of your playing career?
Speaker 5 (31:29):
From here for.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Old back up, I think you asked me about trans
trans Uh what's transfer trans?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yeah, I had a question before this next question, but
but this here's the question here.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
As far as transfer portal, as far as n I LS,
as far as things like that, what what advice would
you give to a transfer Because, like I said, you
want your two three big programs, you went to two.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
And I am out on the downrange other But those
two other coaches also that are five legend Hall of famers.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
But you went to.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Two big programs, three big coaches. What did you take
from that? Or what can you give to my not
my youngly to hope we know them?
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Transfer? But what can you give to the young ladies?
Plan now about transferring? Why you should? Why you shouldn't?
You know?
Speaker 7 (32:20):
I think first of all, as a young as a freshman,
you almost have to go through that first year completely
before you decide to transfer, just to to you know
what I'm saying, get a gist of who you are
as a player before you expect anything from any program.
I think you gotta solidify yourself that freshman year, like
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of how you receive things, how you like to be coached,
how you are the player, all that stuff. You got
to take that into consideration because your next school has
to be your best school.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Yes, And I would say it depends on what kind
of player you are.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
If you are a great role player, then you should
pick a coach that like awards those type of players,
Like if you pay a Kim Moki or a.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Don Stately like.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
To me if I was if I was going to
play for Don Staley and I'm a big I'm going period.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
I'm going the way she the way she.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
Coaches post players, and you know what I'm saying, stuff
like that, that's phenomenal. Now, if I was going to
kim Moki, kim Oki is like a guard driven. I
feel like she's very enthusiastic when it comes to guards.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
And guards the water. But there's also always like one
or two post players.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
So you're gonna play, yeah, you know what I'm saying,
You're gonna be in the spotlight. But with Dawn, I
feel like when it comes to guards that you know,
got a big bag or very shifty or you know
what I'm saying, it's it's.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
They're they're they have the quality of being the main player.
I feel like she's more of a of a post
player type.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
She wanted to get the ball inside but inside outside
like she has a system, and if you are good
and a system like that, go there. But if you
like a player where you like a Juju or the
guards from Notre Dame like stuff like that, you gotta
go to coaches that that feed off of that type
of play because if you don't, yeah, you don't have
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that freedom it changes who you are as a player.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
It's hard.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
It's hard to change who you are as a player
and fit in the system. You end up dimming your
light when you could have went somewhere that really supported
and fed into the light that you already had instead
of trying to find a new one. You know what
I'm saying, Yes, adapt, like you don't always got to adapt, Like,
just go somewhere you You're gonna be appreciated.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
It's that simple.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Yeah, yeah, man, you just stopped a lot of gas.
I hope, I hope my father was. My young players
catch that because they just transferring with no purpose and you, yeah, like,
don't transfer.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Think you about to get an N I L bag
because you're not gonna get paid if you're not doing nothing.
You might get the team the little team check they
get in for the nil, but you're not gonna personally,
you know what I'm saying, Your bag not gonna be
there if you're not gonna excel and be one.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Of the top players on the team, and you might
have to go down.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
You might have to go down to a to a
different type of uh, like a not a power five
like the big ones, the top twenty five teams. You
might have to go down and just build it up
and beat the ranked teams. Like Haley went to TCU.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
She killing over there, Yeah, she LU and louis Bille.
She playing her best basketball at TCU.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
So I mean.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
The Louisville first, the l s U. Yeah, yeah, she
done got the big bags over ready she needed. I
mean she had at TCU, Texas got them bags. So
don't get it twisted.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
No, for sure they do what I'm saying, like, yeah,
like now she she she getting that fire back.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
That's you got. That confidence is everything. That confidence is everything.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Every situation don't work for everybody. And also I wouldn't
I wouldn't tell somebody that after the second year, you
still on the you still you know what I'm saying,
on the bench, or you still coming off you still
they still don't.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Have a plan for you.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
And it's hard to have a plan for twelve people
as a coach, but you know who they got to
plan for, and you know who they don't. You'd be
a fool to sit there for four years and those
the only four years you got to excel past being
in college.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
M Yeah, yeah, I mean it ain't it ain't no,
really to that. At the end of the day, you
want to play, right, so to go somewhere where you're
not gonna play or you're going to be.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I recruit a lot, obviously, so I have a lot
of different conversations about what people want and where they fit,
you know, and you're saying a lot of the things
that they don't consider in that process.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
It don't consider you know.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
What kind of system they run and how much how
many shots someone get up, how many you know, they're
just going to the biggest school is d one that
I'm going, you know, like it's so.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Much more deeper than that. It's so much more deep.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
You you.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I appreciate this conversation because I don't get to have
these a lot with people that have been there with
that mind statement, I Q.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
For sure, I'm gonna goroll onto my next question too.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
But if you don't mind no no, no, no, no,
cook bro cook bro.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Okay, I know you got you got something to clip
over there?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, always always, But you know what I'm saying, ain't
got to pull it out until I need to broke
Go ahead, cook.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
See talking man.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
So this has been an ongoing debate, and I want
to ask you this for this reason, because you've taken
full advantage of it and you're flourishing in it, and
you seem to have.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Something figured out that the rest of the w n
b A doesn't.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
And I'm talking about your off the court bag notoriety,
UH sponsorships, things like that. You seem to have a
lot of motion. As the young folks said you, you
got a lot of motion right now outside of the game. So,
but more times than not, I heard the w NBA
complain about motion and why they don't have motion. You just.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
That I wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
That's crazy, No, no, no cooking.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
What's the secret sauce to the motion?
Speaker 7 (38:19):
The secret sauce would be I feel like a lot
of people are doing things that it's not authentic to them.
And I think a lot with the w n b
A has changed from because when I was doing it,
when I was UH in the league, and you know
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what I'm saying, I was on TikTok and I was
doing all the things off the court, and I had.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
All the deals and I was doing all that. It
wasn't it wasn't awarded.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
It was really looked down upon because it was like,
she's not taking basketball seriously and it's like now I
feel like I feel like people are trying to do
trying to do everything, but it's not for them. Like
everybody is not a model, everybody is not runway, everybody
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is not into fashion.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Everybody that's not your thing.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
But if you use basketball as something for you to,
you know what I'm saying, showcase your thing. Like if
you like legos and you want to deal with legos
and you you build a Lego on game day and
you bring it, that's your thing. You an't gonna come
dress down tea to a runway fashion and you don't
get that.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
You don't have to do that. You literally can do
your thing.
Speaker 7 (39:34):
And if your thing is I don't know, starting conversations
or whatever, and you start a podcast, you know, you
interview on your your teammates, that's your shit.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
You don't have to be.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
Somebody else's just because it worked for them, it doesn't
mean that it's gonna work for you just because you're
copying that. Like, just come up with your own thing.
I would say that's just the secret sauce, coming up
with your own thing and being unapologetically you or you
know that people use that word so freely.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
You can't just do anything.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Because they be doing anything, they trying anything, doing.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Anything, but it's a way to do it. You can't
just do anything. This doesn't work like that, Core right.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
That's you. Thank you answer that question more than perfect.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
But coach, my thing is, like, like I said, I
was watching her in twenty twenty when she was in
the bubble, and then her her next year with the
with the Sparks. She's on the ground, she's bringing awareness
and attention to the w NBA. But yet I remember
our interview that you did maybe like a couple of
years ago, and you basically tapped in on as well.
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It was kind of like frowned upon a little bit
where you know, like you said, they don't think you're
taking the game seriously or anything like that. Are you
doing anything to kind of sway that a little bit
like or do you think that that's like a big
factor of why you're not in the league because I
want to see you in the league. I mean no offense,
I can try to watch you overseas, but I want
to turn to ABC and all of that stuff and
you know, watch you.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
The summertime because I don't watch baseball and I don't
watch soccer. I love basketball, so I can watch anybody
play basketball.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
So let me.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Rephrase the question, what do you think your career, what
do you think your path to the W will entail
to get you back in the States doing more of
what you love home if you want to, if you
want to, if you want to correct.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
Well, no, I for sure, I for sure want to
go get back in the W.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
I think me being overseas was one of the steps
that I knew that I needed to take in order
to do so. I'm not just over here just to
you know, have fun and being friends. I'm over here
to getting that the opportunity to be in the W.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
I do think that.
Speaker 7 (41:40):
I didn't need film, you know what I'm saying, I
set out for a very long time. I do need
h film, you know, to let them see that I'm
still capable of, you know, playing at the same speed,
contributing to a team, whatever the case may be, and yeah,
and doing so. I think that you know, once they
see the film, once they see me still you know,
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being who I am, then.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
I should, you know, get an opportunity. But I forget
the second part of your question.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Well, no, that's pretty much really the best part because
they got that new team up in Toronto, so we
need to get some sort of like team, right, That's
what I'm saying. So we need to get her on
Golden State in Toronto. Should even heard they trying to
get the tennessee some of the Yeah, the Golden State
vacktris yea, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
I'm talking to Jersey so big whatever, I don't care.
I'm talking to JR. Now that this were connected. Now
I know what kind of player you are as far
as inside, like the mentality, the process. I'm a fan.
You know, I've just seen you from a distance. Obviously
we don't know each other, but just watching on i
G and you know, just seeing your journey in your
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path and now talking to you. This is yeah, that
that that mentality is connected now, So I'm a fan.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
Appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's but it's what they say, you know what I'm saying, Hoopers, No,
you know what I'm saying, the real ones.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
No.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
So we only got like a minute and some change left,
So go ahead and plug anything that you got going on.
Any anything that you got going on that we can
bring the listeners awordings to what you got working on.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
I will you know what I told I told myself
I wasn't going to speak on anything until it happens.
Speaker 6 (43:20):
So I'm actually just gonna plug my Instagram. My Instagram
is t e A.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I thought he was about to get.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
Cooper too, and yeah, my snapchat, my instagram on Twitter,
all of that is the same. I am about to
be on YouTube, So that's that's something I could give out.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Something on YouTube, is that your paid the interview on
other people or something like that.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
No, that a lot, Hey, coach, I don't want to
do too.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Much because this thing is going to cut off in
a minute, and I hate for.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
It to happen.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Sou till we thank you for taking your time out
of your busy day. I know it's later than it
is out here on the East Coast in America, and
and uh we hope to do this again or just
you know, keep building with you and following your career.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
I doubt your time and energy made it. Salute to you,
good luck. Anything we can do to help
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Love appreciate that you're listening to the S S experience
on S and G
You're listening to the SS Experience on sn.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
G recording and progress. What up?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Though, As a matter of fact, why am I starting
to show like I could start the show like that.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
We're doing a simulcast right now.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
No, I'm saying, we got the SS Experience, we got
the coach Mo Show. We got Elizabeth City Universities Women's
Associate head Coach coach Mo in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's his show.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
No, I mean, but I'm just here for the ride.
We're still playing on the Sex Experience. Oh, Coach was
good you bro?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
All is good, man, All is good. Just just looking
forward to today. Appreciate some things you're trying to get.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Finish.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Finish the set up process. Man, it's you know, just
my make Shire Studio getting it right.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
That's all getting it right.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, man, I have the luxury of using multi million
dollar facilities here at our heart. Shout out to them
for all of this little stuff that's set up here dope.
If everybody was here, man, there's mikes and stuff set
up at pretty dope. So we're gonna have a special
guest on the pod in a few minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
We just running a little bit late, but.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's it's early for us, it's later for her, but
it is what it is though, So Coach, while we
waiting for our guests to hop on real quick, let's
go ahead and run and talk about the c I
Double A tournament. I mean, I don't have to mention
our ladies came in second place, you know, runner up
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type situation.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It kind of sucks.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
We had a good season, but I guess it don't
matter if it don't win the championship. I've been there
plenty of times before. H So just give us your
thoughts and your feelings of this wannament.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Well, the tournament overall was a pretty good experience, man,
just just they do. They do a great job in
the city of Baltimore, hosting and making sure things are right.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Can I pause it for a second? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Can I pause it?
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Broke?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Yeah, you got a second. I just gotta grab something
real quick.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
No, no, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
So while coach which just grabbing what he gotta grab
real quick, we got a real special guest that's gonna
be on the show. I kind of don't want to
do the intro of the person because they I'm gonna
have to do it again. But if you've been on
our social media is you know who is gonna be
in the building or not in the building, who's gonna
be virtually checking in with us, So definitely make sure
that you enjoy what we got going on.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So a lot of things in basketball has been popping off.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Like I said, we're doing a simulcast right now, the
SS Experience Podcast and.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
The Coach Most Show.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We're gonna have a good bit of basketball conversation that
we're gonna be running. And I don't know why I
have to sign into my other tablet real quick to
get our emails up real quick. But coach is back,
So Coach, go ahead and let us know. I mean,
I know the tournament didn't go exactly the way that
you wanted it to, so you know, thoughts, feelings, things
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that you're looking forward to next year and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Well, it definitely didn't go as planned, man, but we
definitely want to We're gonna we're gonna rebuild our first
year as a coaching staff there and got a lot
of support from the school, a lot of support from
the fans. So you know, it was it was our
first year there. Now it was time to build. You know,
we came in kind of like July June. It's so,
you know, we had a short summer on recruiting players,
which typically happens with new coaches unless you get hired
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around you know, March April. But when once you get
hired in that later stage of the other process, it
becomes a it's just a little tougher to start the year.
But I love our young ladies. I love the squad
that we had. You know, you know, we had a
lot of injuries, a lot of ups and downs throughout
the year, but we came out in a position to
you know, put ourselves in position to be successful, and
it didn't work out that way. So each year that's
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the goal to put yourself in position to be successful,
and we I believe we put the right things in
our young ladies, and I believe they played their hardest.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
It just didn't work out in our favor.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Who is the individual on your squad that's going to
take you to the next level next year?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
M hm, were losing nine, brother, we're losing this damn Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
So our freshman, our freshman Jada Clark, came in with
a lot of great experience, played very hard from a
hard nosed team in school in the seven five seven area,
manor a lot of respect for her and the coaches
and the staff and what they do over there. We
all actually offered another one of her teammates this year
just because we love their style, We love what she brought.
She had opportunity to start a couple of times this year,
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and we think that that she she's gonna be the
future of the program. She was the only freshman okay, okay,
so you know her, with her being our only freshman,
it was it was it put us in position to
you know, her to get a lot of experience, like
I said, with the injuries and things like that.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
So we're playing on her being the star in the future.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Okay. And what position does you play?
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Combo play, some point guard play, some play, some point
guard play, some play some two. You know, she just
she just plays hard man. It does it all, and
we love that about her.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
We want to continue to want to continue to put
her in position to be successful.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Okay, Okay, okay, what is so what other off season situation?
Because I know you're chilling right now, you're on the pod.
You know you're about to personally with you though, like
what's the off season regiment a boy to be like
with you personally, like you know, as a coach when
I say personally.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Mm hm, Well, first of all, we got to recruit.
We gotta get these players. I've been heavy on the
phone and on the line. So if y'all know any transfers,
d you one transfer, d two transfers that want to
come and get an HBCU experience with two great coaches,
great campus, great facilities, and a great location about an
hour from Virginia Beach.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Uh we we We're We're in.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
North Carolina, about two hours from Raleigh, so we're in
a good spot with a nice size campus.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
The accommodations are great. You know. We actually re renovating
the gym.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
So my my goal is to recruit right now, bring
in some players that's want to feel some of the
voids we have had last year with rebounding and some
ball handling.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
But other than that, we we we I have.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
A cancer that I'm going to have and also I'm
going to be training, so I'm going to be going
a lit of that, a lot more than I've done
in the past this summer. So on campus, we'll be
having an elite camp. We'll probably have a couple maybe
a shooting camp in the Biggs camp. Those three camps
are going to happen on our campus, so be looking
out for that.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Also have a couple pro pro training.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Camps that I'm going to do start up with my company,
Prep Prep Pros, which comes with a lot of things
on the umbrella, which are you know, consulting with high
school and college players and families, and also, like I said,
a lot of training this summer. I'm putting the pro
I'm bringing the pro style training to the amateurs, So
I'll be out there a lot this summer. So look
out for those flyers on Instagram, ig wherever you you
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know you do your potting or whatever it is you
do your socials, So be looking out for that. There'll
be a flyer coming out and there will tell you
everything about the pro style camp that I'm bringing to
the amateurs.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
What's the transfer portal like? Is it really like a website?
Where is it like a whole bunch of names and statistics?
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
What is really what is really like the transfer portal?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Okay, so the transfer portal is let me break that down.
Transfer portal is like a three part monster okay, and
and I'm just off the top of my head, I'm
breaking this down. I never broke it down like this.
But the transfer portal are grad transfers that want an
opportunity to win the championship, play on a bigger stage,
get to the league, things of that nature.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
You have.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
You have players that are unhappy, that want to leave,
want to get more time, more minutes, more more, bigger role.
And then you have people that should not be in
the transfer portal of no sort, like you're you're you're
taking yourself out of an opportunity to go seek the
opportunity that's not there.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
And I and I don't want to sound negative in.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
That way, but what I'm saying is that the grass
isn't always greener. And even if your grass is a
little brown now, come spring, it could be greener. But
if you have bought that grass and you go to
across the street to the other person's grass, their grass
might not get green at all. So it's a I
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think you should do what's best for you, but I
think you need to assess what's actually best for you
versus this is what makes you happy every day. This
is important, but happiness can't be the all time goal, right,
So when.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You in the transfer portal, like what like, what what
are you looking for in the in the transfer portal
when you're trying to you know, pick and choose. You know,
these grad transfers or these individuals who want to transition
to bigger roles.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Well, well, I would advise players first and foremost, if
you put yourself in transfer a portal, you should reach
out to schools to where you want to go to.
So most kids want to come closer to home, you know,
which is good for us because seven five seven o
Carolina puts out a lot of talent. But as far
as what I'm looking for in the transfer report, I'm
looking for girl for females that want to come home.
First of all, you know that that I even either
recruited before and they were too high level for the
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school I was at, or they felt like they were
too high or then I'm going to go to other
young ladies and d two that have been successful that
I recruited maybe, and then I'm looking for best best
available to fill our boys what we need. You know,
we want bringing players are gonna fill out void size,
rebound and shooting things like that. So I'm gonna be
heavy in the portal looking for those kinds of people
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that are going to contribute to the program.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
In that way.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Okay, so we have our guests that is about to
be on, but I need to reset. I need to
reset this because we're gonna lose the you know what,
this's is running real quick.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Hopefully we can just make this thing work.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Why so we got a full all right, bet so
hopefully this doesn't mess up.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
But if I mess up, our hit or back.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So when we get back, we're gonna have our guest
on The coach Mo Show and the SS Experience, we'd
be right back.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
You're listening to the SS Experience on S and G.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
What up though, y'all know what y'all listening to.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
It's another edition of the coach Mo Show with Elizabeth
City State Universities Women's head Associate head coach. But I
don't know why I said head twice Coach Maurice Sumter.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You know what I'm saying. The SS Experience with your
boy Henry Hardaway.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
We got a special guest on the on the show today.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Coach Man. You your first your.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
First show on the SMG podcast network app You got
a real dope guest. You know what I'm saying, that's
on deck. You know what I'm saying, Man, Very good work,
very good work that you got going on. This is
he look, this is your show. But I'm trying to
be humble, know what I'm saying. You gotta let everybody
know that I put into work. But I'm trying to
be humble, you know what I'm saying. But we have
a real dope guest on the show right now. We
(10:24):
have a former w NBA player, current professional basketball player,
social media influencer, entrepreneur, and basically all around dope chick.
I mean, I'm not gonna try to pronounce the name
of the team that you play for now because I
don't want to butcher it. But we got the Lovely
Tail Cooper on the s S Experience and the Coach
most show.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
How you doing today, man, I'm doing good. Say to
the year, okay, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
So, as I mentioned, Coach Moe coaches women's basketball for
in the HBCU in the c I Double A Elizabeth
City State University.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So coach Man, go ahead talk basketball. You know what I'm saying.
Let's go ahead and get this thing going.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Oh, we definitely can. So where do we start.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I mean, you played for Don Staley and Milky and
you went to the historical Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
So your experience and.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Level of probably IQ is so far beyond most players
that even play with just one of them.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
And now you get to translate that over and it's
taken you to the league.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
So to just I mean, give us anything with a
fly on the wall would appreciate being in the room
with either one of those or whichever one of those
three historical experiences.
Speaker 7 (11:37):
So my freshman year, I would say, being at Tennessee,
I think the biggest thing was if you're gonna do it,
do it, and once you step into the lines, you
know what I'm saying, you hear, you might as well
lock in and give it all you got. And that
came from practice, workouts, individual sessions, all types of things.
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And this really was just always coming in and giving
us good advice on you know, just mentally preparing yourself
for what you choose to step into once you get
on the lines. And I had just tore my ACL
leaving Tennessee and I had to sit out, but I
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got to watch Asia.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
And I got to be coached.
Speaker 7 (12:27):
By Dawn and you know the other coaches there.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
But the biggest part was hard to love me.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
That life was pretty much eighty ninety percent mental and
the rest was physicality was in shape, I was strong,
all that stuff, but I think mentally, just really realizing
how the other stuff going on, or you worried about
yourself and not about.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
The greater good of the team and stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
I think that just getting a hold of your mental
was pretty big in South Carolina, being in that sit
out like nine hundred or something days, and then going
to Baylor and being coached by Kim.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
I think that that time of my life.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
You break it up when I am I'm sorry. I
thought it was just me.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
So it rock, but I heard I was hoping. It
sounded like it was about to clear up a little bit.
That's why let me not interrupt, and we'll just do
it in post production real quick.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
But let's say we can just keep it rolling real quick.
So I just want to be she.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Said before we move on, because I know it chopped
up for the audience, but but yeah, she talked about
you talked about being in there with Kim and then
you call her canvas.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
I don't know where it's Candas. I know where it's
Ms Parker or Candas.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
The whole name the female CP three.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
Yeah, yeah it is Candace.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
I mean we're initiated, we know what you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
But yeah, Don Stealey, and you said you said something important.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I definitely don't want to reach over the ninety percent
mental ten percent physical, because that's something to me as
a coach. And I wrote a book as well, and
I preach that in the book. Is because we only
work on the physical ten percent. I mean, work on
the minteal ten percent, work on the physical ninety percent.
But the game is ninety percent mental and ten percent physical.
So now we kind of see why the game is
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where it is in a lot of ways because of
the energy we put into the two percentages. But I
thought it was big to point out and I appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
That's that's love, right, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I just want to make sure I didn't read the
Internet wrong.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Your coach in Tennessee was Coorge Warlick, Right, Okay, cool,
Because I want to play I want to play off.
I want to play a fun game called you know
what I'm saying. You used the first thing, So let's
do it that way, Holly, Dawn or Kim. I'm gonna
give you three questions and you tell me which coach
is best associated with the question. So we're gonna start
with something light work. Who is your harshest coach? Harsh
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means of what you in practice, the same thing you
you a you in practice, and she's the type stuff.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
No, I mean, okay, I will say I feel like
the assistant coaches kind of do all that, so like, yeah,
it's I would say that assistant coaches do that more.
I think that the head coach is more like off
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the court.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
In your office.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Okay, for all.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
The schools, I would have to say the assistant coaches.
But I think Boyer is very consistent with being on
your ass in practice and that.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Okay, okay, I got, I got, I got two one this.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
These are a little bit more fun for you if
you was on the if you was on the run
right now, who would you call for help?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Holly Donner, Kim.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
Damn, Holly down or Kim Man. It depends where I'm at.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
If I'm anywhere near South Carolina, I'm talking about three
hours four hours away, I'm going with Don If I'm
in New Orleans somewhere, but Texas deep Waco.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
I'm going with him.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Okay, okay, okay, one one last one real quick. You're
right a cookout. Who would you not question that made
the potato salad? Holly Donal.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Might got some she might got some recipes.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
We don't never know. No, say she got the swagle deck.
Those saying she might got some seasoning.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
I ain't seen nothing, not None of them cook. And
we and you know what I'm saying. You have team
meetings that they house.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
You go to the house. I ain't seen none of
them cook.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
That's funny.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
That is funny.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
So coach a roll or nothing?
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Right, not a roll, not not not not a Peter
Collar greens or nothing. What I'm saying, coach man, go ahead,
drive you back to basketball. I know you you're into
mental health exactly.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah, definitely the mental health. So I played overseas in
three years as well.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I played in Holland, Portugal, in Massachot So yeah, I've
been early so you know the life. So some days
I would wake up and not know where I was at,
like literally, and I don't mean that being funny. I
mean like I had to wake up in the morning
and just be like, oh, like, it's so different than
what I'm used to or what I've you know, been
with the past couple years. How is your mental over there,
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being away from family and your new mother as well,
so your support system and things like that.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
How is it for you mentally on the day to
day or week to week, month and month.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Well, I'm gonna say the good part. The good part is,
you know what I'm saying, You leave.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Home, you get a break.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I had been home for three years, so me being
over here and getting a break, and you know what
I'm saying, seeing a new city, eating different food, traveling,
I think that's dope for sure.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
On the other side, I.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Will say, being the only American on the team, you
don't have much to say. And if you are some
who is out going or you know what I'm saying,
you feed off talking to people in interactions.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
It's hard because you're silence.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
You're not silent, but you are silent a lot of
the time. So like, unless you're practically you're saying screen scraying,
are running or doing some type of basketball talk.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
After that, everybody speaks French, so you don't have nothing
to say.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
And it's hard to explain yourself, so you really just
type it in an app and then you go home
and it's quiet because they're sleep my side, my side
where my family is, they're sleep So then by the
time I get sleepy, they're up and I'm sleepy.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
So I go three four days without talking to you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
And that's the hard part because you need that, like,
you just need that them conversations.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
You need people.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
You just need people, period, and you don't have especially
when you're doing three days and you're getting beat up
in practice and you everything on you and it gets hard.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
For sure, for sure, for sure, I know exactly what
you mean.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
And then we didn't have all this internet when have
like Instagram, FaceTime, we had like Skype, and had a
five thousand dollars cell phone bill my first month, So like,
I get it. And you know, people when I watch
movies like that so religant to you in the locker
room when the coaches talking, they talking in their language
and you just sending their time, your shoes and doing.
Speaker 6 (19:18):
The language.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
You don't even know.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
You're starting to.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
My teammate, you just tapped the team on the side like,
what are you saying?
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Literally, our teammates be trying to translate.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, yeah, no, that that's that's that's hilarious. So you're
overseas right now.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
So again I've been I've been following your career since
the bubble in twenty twenty. I saw you last year
in Athletes Unlimited. So you know, in America, uh, there's
been more professional women's leagues, so a lot of women
do not have to go overseas. What was your decision
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making in, you know, playing overseas versus participating in Athletes
Unlimited or Unrivaled, which is the new league this year.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
I think with me.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
Sitting out, I just think that well, first of all, Unrivaled,
I feel like you have to be an active WBA player.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
That's pretty much that roster.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I don't I don't see no, okay, I don't even
I don't even think. I didn't even be that.
Speaker 7 (20:19):
Yeah, but then au, it was just too short. I
think it's like four weeks. So like in order to
get in game shape and get back to you know
what I'm saying, being in professional shape, it's like you
need longer than a month. I think it's like one
or two games a week and overseas just offered more.
It was like it's like four four or five months
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they play this practice is unreasonable.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
It's three three days.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
So I mean, you're gonna you're gonna leave in shape,
You're gonna leave with something.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yeah, I got a guy named Tim Blue out there.
You know you're to Tim Blue in France. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
No, I haven't met nobody other than the staff and
the players.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Oh, okay, got you, got you, got you.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
We though, y'all do what's city you in against tars?
Speaker 6 (21:14):
They say tarbs? I say tarbus.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
I don't know, it's either way.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
He's in Like on hold, try to try to do
it with a French accent? Is it how?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
How how do they sound when they say it turbs?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Tomato tomato?
Speaker 4 (21:30):
No?
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I mean so so.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
So we just talked about being in shape, and like
I said, I'm I told my man that I'm starting
a bunch of camps this summer, pro camps basically, so
what do you do? Like what is your routine? When
I say routine, I want to know your daily routine.
Wake up in the morning and eat nutrition and weights,
you know, track and all that stuff. But then also
tell me you're just your preseason routine, how you get
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ready for the season.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
So you want to know what I'm doing right now.
You want to do what I did before?
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Now what you do on the day to day based
when wake up in the morning to prepare yourself for
practice day.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
In the game day.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Oh okay, I wake up like two hours before practice,
and I don't like to eat, so I'll eat mangos
before practice. I don't really like a meal. It's too much,
too much running to be that.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Heavy for me.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Then we we I work out before practice. Then we
have practice from eleven to one and that's just straight
full court scrimmaging two hours. So there's that, and then
afterwards we have waits and wait, it's.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Like an our thirty minutes.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Then we have uh individual workouts and that's like our
thirty minutes. But that's like one on ones, getting shot up, contested,
going to the basket, working off, finishing and stuff like that.
So it's not just an easy little workout. You're not
shooting spot up shots. It's deem their like the beginning
of practice. Okay, after that they don't really have to
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treatment here, so it's kind of hard, but they.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Do like that.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Yeah, we never never like available.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Man.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
I asked them about ice baths and they told me
that I could go stand in the lake.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I was like, wow, this.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Is that's crazy. That's wow. Stand in the lake like
playing traffic.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
But I wasn't gonna say that, but I was like, huh.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Is lake French for tub? Like what are we talking about? It?
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Got a real video.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
They have a real video out there in the lake
going swimming and playing and that's the ice bath.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
That's crazy. Now, what's your dame day routine? How do
you get in your your mamba mode? Like, how do
you how do you get your your ninety percent ready
for the ten percent you want to do it?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
I would say I take shoot around very serious.
Speaker 7 (24:05):
I go in there and get game shots game speed,
and then we go and take a nap.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Game shots at game speed.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
You just said something that's a ripple wave through basketball
communities across the world.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Game shots at game speed. Thank you for saying it. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
Yeah, because I feel like it's shooting around everybody just
playing around, shooting playing games stuff like that. I need
that part to physically feel like I know how I'm
finna shoot this game.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
So yeah, I would say that and then we go
take a nap.
Speaker 7 (24:37):
I don't really play music. If I do, it's gospel.
Then we get on the bus and yeah, I try
to treat it like practice. So that's the way I
practice is the way I try to play. So I
just lose all like pressure and overthinking and doing too much.
If I just treat it like I treat practice, I
show up, I control my energy, I talk, I do
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all those things and then if it works out of
my favorite dude, hopefully it does.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
But that's just how I approach it.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
You said it, man, And to be in a pro
being a form of pro Like I'm trying to get
my college athletes to understand the value of time and
the importance of each shot in the continuous mechanics and
things like that, how each individual moment and shot and
intensity is. And you know, we spend a lot of
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time and empty calories in the gym.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
And I'm not just saying my team, this generation in general.
So you just your time.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
What you're saying in the gym, your time is valuable
and you maximize it.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
What it sounds like, yep, once you clock in, you
clock in, you clock out, you clock out, because it's
more to life than just basketball.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
I will say that. But for the most part, if
you going to clock in, clock in.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Exactly, exactly words words from two professional basketball players on the.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Coach conversation, because not a lot of people can connect
like in this mental space of it, because the good
amateurs don't connect with the pros. Is that bit of
a line that a good amateur and a pro is
that different?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
No doubt?
Speaker 3 (26:10):
So I want to be a tad bit messy, but
not too messy, but just messy enough. On one of our
latest episodes, we talked about a conversation between not a
conversation but a little story between Kim Malkey and Dawn Stay,
which again your college coaches, where Kim Molkey had a
comment about down Staley South Carolina team saying if I
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had ten McDonald's all Americans, and I don't know the
exact quote, but you probably know exactly what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Who side are you on in that situation?
Speaker 3 (26:38):
You on molky side or down Staley's side, Because Dawn
Staley got the players.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
What's the side of what's what's the choosing the side about?
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Is it saying do she have ten McDonald's Americans or
what am I choosing.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
What do you do?
Speaker 7 (26:50):
You do?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
You do you agree that? And coach, you can help
me out with this a little bit. Do you agree that?
When Kim Molkey was like, if I had ten McDonald's
All Americans, I wouldn't And again, I wish I had
to quote more. I kind of wish I had to
quote a little bit more or written down or whatever.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
I think it was more of a tone kind of
thing for me.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
It wasn't necessarily what she said, but she was like, yeah,
when you got ten All Americans, you can do this
that and the third and my response is let me
tell you mine.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
So this made clear up.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, I appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
My response was more so, like Kim, you had Tia
Cooper in them, like you had, ain't like you changed,
and like you short on facilities, ain't like you short
on money. You know, so LSU football it's bigger than
South Carolina football.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
So you're gonna get the nil money to get who
you need. So you said that she got ten All Americans.
What are you trying to say that you were undermatched,
underserved under I don't know what's your point of saying that.
I guess that's more of the question.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
My thing was, I just thought she was just being
salty and kind of being a hater a little bit, like, hey,
it is what it is type you know what I mean. So,
but I ain't know if you was kind of like
paying attention that like listening to your old coaches like oh,
come on, kind of like two parents going at it's like,
come on, y'all got out a little bit.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Well.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
I think that in order to have opinions on a
conversation or comment or a situation, you kind of gotta
know people.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
So knowing Kim, I feel like her saying.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
That is you gotta guard all twelve of they, all
twelve of they players like you you can't only have
three or four, or you can't only have two or
three players, Like she's saying, you got ten twelve all Americans,
like your whole team stacked, like that's shit, we gave
our best effort. I don't really I got to hear
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the whole thing, but if I to know her is
to know that she's probably saying like, you got you
got that one through ten all all Americans, Like I
don't think she's trying to be shadier say that. Dawn
had like, hey, I don't think any had anything to
do with Dawn. I think it was her really saying like, nah,
you tough, like you got ten all Americans, like we
had to guard when we couldn't, or some shit like
that because they did lose. But I just don't see
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her throwing shade at Dawn because she genuinely doesn't have
a problem with her.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Okay, but no, Yeah, you just did exactly what we
need you to do. You clarified everything. You fill the
holes for that conversation because I get that, like, Yo,
they got to all Americans.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
Man, you gotta guard everybody and everybody everywhere.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But to know, to not
know Kim is like what's she trying to say? But
to know her, it is like, no, that's how she
That's just how she That's how she said, that's how
she talked. That's just I think everything she says is
a but like to know her.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
And be like, yeah, I get that.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
As a coach, Yeah and again and again, we had
to have somebody who knew both individuals to you know,
to clarify that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
You know, I mean to put some you know, some
water on the fire.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
A little bit.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
So we definitely appreciate that coach any other basketball ish
type questions because we can have mesty conversations all day.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
But I know we want to definitely keep it with
basketball or whatnot.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
No sense y'are real good pro conversation, keep it cooking,
no loving it.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Like this is this is my my safe zone, my
safe space. But also, so you transferred a couple of times.
What are your as the transfer portal that it's different
than when you were in school kinda?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
But I think you came in the back end the
transfer portal.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Man, my last transfer, they came up with the rule
that you don't got to sit out the transfer after
I sat out damn there three years.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Wow, that's the way.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
So you so you so you so you obviously so
you also missed the nil situation too.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Yes, yes, now you have to think about that. You
can use that Baylor with I don't know you had
to think about it.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
I would.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
You're talking about the handshake and I L you're talking.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
About yeah, not that not the briefcase under the table,
n I L.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Man, I missed it. Pissed.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Yeah, I feel you.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
I meet you and me both man, because I definitely
I loved my school, but I would have transferred up
to get a nice band for least.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Yeah, I have like fifteen and seven.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Yeah, all three of them schools.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
You were eighth grade two, that's why.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
So what's up?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
What's what's the n I L opportunity you wish you
could have taken advantage of or that you would have
took advantag Jeb if you was in.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
School, Man, it's not one I wouldn't have. I would
have had all of them. So that's one of them
down to goddamn.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
All for every food on the strip, I would have
had every place everything.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
I would have been like that.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
Oh yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Hey, I was gonna ask you, but but definitely as
far as playing career, as far as what do you
want out of your playing career?
Speaker 5 (31:29):
From here for.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Old back up, I think you asked me about trans
trans Uh what's transfer trans?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yeah, I had a question before this next question, but
but this here's the question here.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
As far as transfer portal, as far as n I LS,
as far as things like that, what what advice would
you give to a transfer Because, like I said, you
want your two three big programs, you went to two.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
And I am out on the downrange other But those
two other coaches also that are five legend Hall of famers.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
But you went to.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Two big programs, three big coaches. What did you take
from that? Or what can you give to my not
my youngly to hope we know them?
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Transfer? But what can you give to the young ladies?
Plan now about transferring? Why you should? Why you shouldn't?
You know?
Speaker 7 (32:20):
I think first of all, as a young as a freshman,
you almost have to go through that first year completely
before you decide to transfer, just to to you know
what I'm saying, get a gist of who you are
as a player before you expect anything from any program.
I think you gotta solidify yourself that freshman year, like
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of how you receive things, how you like to be coached,
how you are the player, all that stuff. You got
to take that into consideration because your next school has
to be your best school.
Speaker 6 (32:50):
Yes, And I would say it depends on what kind
of player you are.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
If you are a great role player, then you should
pick a coach that like awards those type of players,
Like if you pay a Kim Moki or a.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Don Stately like.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
To me if I was if I was going to
play for Don Staley and I'm a big I'm going period.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
I'm going the way she the way she.
Speaker 7 (33:21):
Coaches post players, and you know what I'm saying, stuff
like that, that's phenomenal. Now, if I was going to
kim Moki, kim Oki is like a guard driven. I
feel like she's very enthusiastic when it comes to guards.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
And guards the water. But there's also always like one
or two post players.
Speaker 7 (33:40):
So you're gonna play, yeah, you know what I'm saying,
You're gonna be in the spotlight. But with Dawn, I
feel like when it comes to guards that you know,
got a big bag or very shifty or you know
what I'm saying, it's it's.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
They're they're they have the quality of being the main player.
I feel like she's more of a of a post
player type.
Speaker 7 (34:00):
She wanted to get the ball inside but inside outside
like she has a system, and if you are good
and a system like that, go there. But if you
like a player where you like a Juju or the
guards from Notre Dame like stuff like that, you gotta
go to coaches that that feed off of that type
of play because if you don't, yeah, you don't have
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that freedom it changes who you are as a player.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
It's hard.
Speaker 7 (34:26):
It's hard to change who you are as a player
and fit in the system. You end up dimming your
light when you could have went somewhere that really supported
and fed into the light that you already had instead
of trying to find a new one. You know what
I'm saying, Yes, adapt, like you don't always got to adapt, Like,
just go somewhere you You're gonna be appreciated.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
It's that simple.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Yeah, yeah, man, you just stopped a lot of gas.
I hope, I hope my father was. My young players
catch that because they just transferring with no purpose and you, yeah, like,
don't transfer.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Think you about to get an N I L bag
because you're not gonna get paid if you're not doing nothing.
You might get the team the little team check they
get in for the nil, but you're not gonna personally,
you know what I'm saying, Your bag not gonna be
there if you're not gonna excel and be one.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Of the top players on the team, and you might
have to go down.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
You might have to go down to a to a
different type of uh, like a not a power five
like the big ones, the top twenty five teams. You
might have to go down and just build it up
and beat the ranked teams. Like Haley went to TCU.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
She killing over there, Yeah, she LU and louis Bille.
She playing her best basketball at TCU.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
So I mean.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
The Louisville first, the l s U. Yeah, yeah, she
done got the big bags over ready she needed. I
mean she had at TCU, Texas got them bags. So
don't get it twisted.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
No, for sure they do what I'm saying, like, yeah,
like now she she she getting that fire back.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
That's you got. That confidence is everything. That confidence is everything.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Every situation don't work for everybody. And also I wouldn't
I wouldn't tell somebody that after the second year, you
still on the you still you know what I'm saying,
on the bench, or you still coming off you still
they still don't.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Have a plan for you.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
And it's hard to have a plan for twelve people
as a coach, but you know who they got to
plan for, and you know who they don't. You'd be
a fool to sit there for four years and those
the only four years you got to excel past being
in college.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
M Yeah, yeah, I mean it ain't it ain't no,
really to that. At the end of the day, you
want to play, right, so to go somewhere where you're
not gonna play or you're going to be.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
I recruit a lot, obviously, so I have a lot
of different conversations about what people want and where they fit,
you know, and you're saying a lot of the things
that they don't consider in that process.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
It don't consider you know.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
What kind of system they run and how much how
many shots someone get up, how many you know, they're
just going to the biggest school is d one that
I'm going, you know, like it's so.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Much more deeper than that. It's so much more deep.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
You you.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
I appreciate this conversation because I don't get to have
these a lot with people that have been there with
that mind statement, I Q.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
For sure, I'm gonna goroll onto my next question too.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
But if you don't mind no no, no, no, no,
cook bro cook bro.
Speaker 5 (37:24):
Okay, I know you got you got something to clip
over there?
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, always always, But you know what I'm saying, ain't
got to pull it out until I need to broke
Go ahead, cook.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
See talking man.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
So this has been an ongoing debate, and I want
to ask you this for this reason, because you've taken
full advantage of it and you're flourishing in it, and
you seem to have.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
Something figured out that the rest of the w n
b A doesn't.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
And I'm talking about your off the court bag notoriety,
UH sponsorships, things like that. You seem to have a
lot of motion. As the young folks said you, you
got a lot of motion right now outside of the game. So,
but more times than not, I heard the w NBA
complain about motion and why they don't have motion. You just.
Speaker 5 (38:10):
That I wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
That's crazy, No, no, no cooking.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
What's the secret sauce to the motion?
Speaker 7 (38:19):
The secret sauce would be I feel like a lot
of people are doing things that it's not authentic to them.
And I think a lot with the w n b
A has changed from because when I was doing it,
when I was UH in the league, and you know
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what I'm saying, I was on TikTok and I was
doing all the things off the court, and I had.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
All the deals and I was doing all that. It
wasn't it wasn't awarded.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
It was really looked down upon because it was like,
she's not taking basketball seriously and it's like now I
feel like I feel like people are trying to do
trying to do everything, but it's not for them. Like
everybody is not a model, everybody is not runway, everybody
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is not into fashion.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Everybody that's not your thing.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
But if you use basketball as something for you to,
you know what I'm saying, showcase your thing. Like if
you like legos and you want to deal with legos
and you you build a Lego on game day and
you bring it, that's your thing. You an't gonna come
dress down tea to a runway fashion and you don't
get that.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
You don't have to do that. You literally can do
your thing.
Speaker 7 (39:34):
And if your thing is I don't know, starting conversations
or whatever, and you start a podcast, you know, you
interview on your your teammates, that's your shit.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
You don't have to be.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
Somebody else's just because it worked for them, it doesn't
mean that it's gonna work for you just because you're
copying that. Like, just come up with your own thing.
I would say that's just the secret sauce, coming up
with your own thing and being unapologetically you or you
know that people use that word so freely.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
You can't just do anything.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
Because they be doing anything, they trying anything, doing.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Anything, but it's a way to do it. You can't
just do anything. This doesn't work like that, Core right.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
That's you. Thank you answer that question more than perfect.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
But coach, my thing is, like, like I said, I
was watching her in twenty twenty when she was in
the bubble, and then her her next year with the
with the Sparks. She's on the ground, she's bringing awareness
and attention to the w NBA. But yet I remember
our interview that you did maybe like a couple of
years ago, and you basically tapped in on as well.
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It was kind of like frowned upon a little bit
where you know, like you said, they don't think you're
taking the game seriously or anything like that. Are you
doing anything to kind of sway that a little bit
like or do you think that that's like a big
factor of why you're not in the league because I
want to see you in the league. I mean no offense,
I can try to watch you overseas, but I want
to turn to ABC and all of that stuff and
you know, watch you.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
The summertime because I don't watch baseball and I don't
watch soccer. I love basketball, so I can watch anybody
play basketball.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
So let me.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
Rephrase the question, what do you think your career, what
do you think your path to the W will entail
to get you back in the States doing more of
what you love home if you want to, if you
want to, if you want to correct.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
Well, no, I for sure, I for sure want to
go get back in the W.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
I think me being overseas was one of the steps
that I knew that I needed to take in order
to do so. I'm not just over here just to
you know, have fun and being friends. I'm over here
to getting that the opportunity to be in the W.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
I do think that.
Speaker 7 (41:40):
I didn't need film, you know what I'm saying, I
set out for a very long time. I do need
h film, you know, to let them see that I'm
still capable of, you know, playing at the same speed,
contributing to a team, whatever the case may be, and yeah,
and doing so. I think that you know, once they
see the film, once they see me still you know,
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being who I am, then.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
I should, you know, get an opportunity. But I forget
the second part of your question.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Well, no, that's pretty much really the best part because
they got that new team up in Toronto, so we
need to get some sort of like team, right, That's
what I'm saying. So we need to get her on
Golden State in Toronto. Should even heard they trying to
get the tennessee some of the Yeah, the Golden State
vacktris yea, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
I'm talking to Jersey so big whatever, I don't care.
I'm talking to JR. Now that this were connected. Now
I know what kind of player you are as far
as inside, like the mentality, the process. I'm a fan.
You know, I've just seen you from a distance. Obviously
we don't know each other, but just watching on i
G and you know, just seeing your journey in your
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path and now talking to you. This is yeah, that
that that mentality is connected now, So I'm a fan.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
Appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
It's but it's what they say, you know what I'm saying, Hoopers, No,
you know what I'm saying, the real ones.
Speaker 5 (43:03):
No.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
So we only got like a minute and some change left,
So go ahead and plug anything that you got going on.
Any anything that you got going on that we can
bring the listeners awordings to what you got working on.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
I will you know what I told I told myself
I wasn't going to speak on anything until it happens.
Speaker 6 (43:20):
So I'm actually just gonna plug my Instagram. My Instagram
is t e A.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
I thought he was about to get.
Speaker 7 (43:27):
Cooper too, and yeah, my snapchat, my instagram on Twitter,
all of that is the same. I am about to
be on YouTube, So that's that's something I could give out.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Something on YouTube, is that your paid the interview on
other people or something like that.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
No, that a lot, Hey, coach, I don't want to
do too.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Much because this thing is going to cut off in
a minute, and I hate for.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
It to happen.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Sou till we thank you for taking your time out
of your busy day. I know it's later than it
is out here on the East Coast in America, and
and uh we hope to do this again or just
you know, keep building with you and following your career.
Speaker 6 (44:04):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
I doubt your time and energy made it. Salute to you,
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