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March 24, 2025 58 mins
Jess Hilarious crashes out on IG LIVE and on the radio about issues with The Breakfast Club. There are guilty people EVERYWHERE in this, but Shaheed (who HAD a radio show on iHeart) will let you know the ONE person who is the MOST responsible.


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Kanye is going on his huge rant. You know, the
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Kim Kardashian as well, you know, raising black kids and

(00:48):
all of that stuff. White just so much stuff with that,
we got March Madness that it started. We had a
good couple of games yesterday, I believe as of right
now as we there's games going on now. So I'll,
you know, I'll put you on with something as matter
if I might as well put you guys on now

(01:08):
real quick, you know, go ahead, get the fun activities
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Out the way.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
So what we're doing for March Madness is we're doing
our third annual SMG Tournament Challenge, where we take a
field of normally sixty eight things and we put them
in a March Madness style tournament and we see who
wins based.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
On what goes on in real March Madness.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
This year we're doing alleged or actual bb ls. You know,
women who have been accused of having bbls or who've
admitted to you know, to the world that they have
bbl So we're judging to bbls whether it's good, badroom different,
and we're playing it along with March Madness. Yesterday we
had our play in tournament for the twelfth seed.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I believe in.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Our tournament it was Lovely me Me represented by the
University of North Carolina, an Asian doll represented by San
Diego State and North Carolina one, which means Lovely mem
moves on to the full In our tournament thirty two
teams where she'll play the number five seed. I believe

(02:20):
Shane agoom Makay. I know she plays Shanello. CA's got messed.
I got to see them right, but that sounds about right.
A five to twelve, that's about right. So we have
that going on right there. So if you if you
don't have a bracket yet, go ahead, get a bracket
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Just hit us up in our DMS and we'll go
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do our round or our first two end, which we

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again we got games going on tonight, we will basically
start the full tournament in the round of thirty two,
So basically after the first weekend or something like that. Well, yeah,
I've been After the first weekend, we will have our
round of thirty two and then our tournament will begin.

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The reason because I really couldn't think of sixty eight women.
I mean, you know, I'll let me take that back.
I could think of sixty eight women to allegedly or
have a BBL. I even forgot some good ones from
this particular bracket. But you know that happens when you
make brackets whatever. Sometimes you slip up on stuff. But

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most of the women that I would have ended up
picking out would have been like, no offense, a whole
bunch of white girls. You know that you know do
content creation, got bbl you know that type of little stuff.
You know, not the typical individuals that you know we
know from a culture. But nonetheless, we still have a

(04:08):
good tournament. So go ahead and get yourself a brackets
the third Annual SMG Tournament Challenge.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Now that we got that right or out the way.
So when.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
I know, in a lot of people's jobs, theirs social
media policies, there's like don't film or record what goes
on and work, don't take what goes on and work,
and you know display on social media. You know, you
don't want to quote unquote embarrass your job or whatever.

(04:50):
But when the said information or the said story or
the said thing that we're talking about actually was put
on the air, then everybody else in the world is
going to take stabs act So why not us? And
what I mean by that is is like slight example,

(05:12):
but not directly. So when Joey Taylor was okay, never
mind because that's not really a sports story per se.
Because I was gonna mention when Joey Taylor was accused
or still is accused of, you know, sexual misconduct and
various things like that through a former hairdresser or a friend.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
On you know, for Fox Sports one.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
I know that situation is still going on, but Okay,
it's not the same exact thing because that's not sports.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
That's just like if we were in the.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Space too, you know, like a like a podcast or
something like that, then somebody at Fox might have talked
about but might not because again, that's definitely something that
you know directly affects, you know, individuals at the job.
But this thing with the breakfast club, it's totally different
because it started off with just hilarious crashing out. And

(06:09):
I would say, if post production gets it going, we
can go ahead and put this sound in the audio
there because I kind of want to just be lazy
real quick and just talk. But if post production is available,
we'll go ahead and play a little bit of sound
from just hilarious.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Your whole narrative, Like, I understand f the comments and
yeah after people and all that, but it's not all
about them. It's how I'm feeling too. What if I'm
feeling the same way the people feel, you know what
I'm saying. So what because niggas online feel a certain way,
I can't. I can't I feel the same way they

(06:44):
feel about it.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yes you do, like I've done that, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
There's a bigger issue sometimes too, because I feel like,
all right, you'll call him, you'll cuss them out. We
might talk about different situations. But I think a lot
of times if there's an issue for referral and then
it don't be no movement in here. It's like there's
an issue outside and then there's no movement in here,
and then we just all in here like he he hot.
Like you're doing a lot of it right now. You're
laughing and joking. But for Refeerral, you know that there's

(07:11):
she's up here crying. Nothing about that is funny. Like
there's real issues and real problems, and we don't really
get to the gist of it.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I want the record show I see just crying.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Like it doesn't matter if you see.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Talking about you, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I'm not talking to y'all, se because when I try
to be scarious to talk.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
You see what I'm saying, You see the hody do.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Me what I'm saying, is is that I think at
this moment, because this is east Side High west side
whatever high were going to be, we hear and we together,
so we got to figure this out. And it's not
everything's not a joke, and I can understand some of
where you was coming from. But bro, part of that
live I thought was crazy. I'm like what, just like, yeah, yeah,

(07:51):
what part?

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Because like I think, it's not like you didn't hear
anything in that live that I haven't said to you.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
I heard a lot that you didn't say.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
To Okay, So what have I did I not say
to you?

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Okay? So the part about the talking over each other
and the hush be quiet because you talk about how
you feel in real time, right, yeah, I'm feeling in
real time that be quiet? That was crazy. It is crazy.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
The shut up.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I was like, oh, okay, because what we're really giving
up here?

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Like what's up?

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Right? But I need none of that?

Speaker 4 (08:18):
What said you didn't say it?

Speaker 1 (08:20):
And then and then when I pulled you into the
office with our EP with Eddie the conversation, the first
thing I said to you was, Jess, we fighting for
airtime and it shouldn't be like that I want to
know what can I do better as a producer, what
can we do better as the two women sitting right
here next to each other.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
So those are the things that we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
So that conversation there started what we heard or with
some of you heard this morning. I'm not gonna lie
I didn't listen to it because it's from what I've
seen and heard. For me, is cringe worthy because it's
like and I'll get to watch cringe worth. But let's
just get the story real quick. So just hilarious. Lauren Laurazzo,

(09:05):
well else, I just call her Laura. I forget how
her last name is or how to pronounce it, but
I know it's Lauren, dj Envy, Charlotte made a god.
The whole Breakfast Club, all four of them upon a
popular belief, all four of them. You know, we're on
the show today, and they was, you know, hashing out
their feelings of just hilarious passing out. Now if we

(09:27):
didn't do the post production, just hilarious is passing out
because she went on maternity leave not too long after
being hired as the third co host of The Breakfast
Club to replace Angela Yee, and she picked an individual
to basically do her segments for her while she's away,
which normal, normally it would be a producer to kind

(09:48):
of sort of fill in, not necessarily a host, but
sometimes it can be. But in this particular instance, it
was this show's producer. The show producer did a very
very good job that when Just Hilarious came back, she
was still doing her segment while being present. Again, I
didn't know this for sort of but I know this
is what's been said. So that made Just Hilarious kind

(10:10):
of rub the wrong way and for her to basically
spass out on her ig live for about fifteen minutes
give it take and you know, spassing out type stuff,
and it led to the conversation that they had this
morning on the Breakfast Club on various Alheart radio stations
throughout the country. Now, again I didn't watch it because,

(10:32):
like I said, I figured it was Karen Vidgie. But
I saw the clips. I've seen the transcriptions. Pretty much
a lot of disrespect was going on from Just Hilarious point,
but there was a lot of gas lighting that was
going on from you know, Lauren Charlemagne and Envy as well. Now,
maybe in post production we can play like a couple

(10:53):
of clips of it. But like I said, I personally
didn't hear it for real. So if you got clips,
we can go ahead and just you know, run the clip.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's all good, just get it. So those various things
right there.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
For me, this is the conversation that I wanted to
have because you can say whether.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Or not you know, you like just hilarious, you like
Lauren more.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
You know, Lauren does her job better than just you know,
various things like that. But here's and again, we're gonna
have DJ three two one on the show, be scheduled
to have them on. We'll just you know, keep the
show going until he gets here. But this is the
angle that I wanted to go to. Now remember this
timeline real quick, so angel So Charlomagne to God is

(11:46):
interviewing Gucci Man. And this is probably about twenty nineteen
or something like that, give and take. But just but
you'll remember the time, even if you don't remember the
actual day, but you remember the events. Charlamagne to God
is interviewing the Gucci Man. Gucci main mentioned some things

(12:10):
about Angela Yee from you know, back in the day
before Angela Yee was popping which again could be true,
but let's just keep it moving, saying that Angela Yee
was kind of like outside, you know Thursday for Gucci Man,
you know, kind of like, oh Gucci ma the celebrity,
you know, get an interview, but get interview, YadA, YadA, YadA,
and Charlemagne God didn't challenge that because I think there

(12:32):
was arguing about something that Angelaee was kind of dismissive on.
And then that's when you know, Gucci Man came out
like man, that bitch and shit, she was outside doing
all of these other things, and Charlomagne God was silent.
You know, he didn't quote unquote defend his teammate in
that situation. So the interview gets put out, which is
insane that Charlomagne is still put it out anyway, not

(12:55):
even thinking about what was going on, and that kind
of put a risk in the breakfast club, you know,
as far as with Angela Yee and Charlomagne per se.
So I don't even think they had a heat of
debate on radio about this. They might they might have
had something, but I don't remember it because, like I said,
this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right now, but they you know, had their fallen out.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
You know, it's kind of like you sense the vibes
on air and again we're gonna talk about why certain
things happened or shouldn't have happened. But they kept it
professional on air and did their jobs and kept it moving.
I think that energy was going on for about two
and a half years because for about a year, Angela

(13:39):
Ye announced that she was leaving the show, but she
ended up staying on the show for a long time
where it was like yo, like why are you still here?
Like you supposed to be going Angelae constantly saying she's
about to leave the show, bitch, why are you still here?
And you know, eventually, you know which, I don't know
why it took so long for us to happen, but again,
I'll going to that conversation later.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
She gets her own show. Now.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
The Breakfast Club is two individuals and are looking for
third now. Throughout this time period, they use celebrities like
Claudia Jordan's so they used, you know, outside celebrity people.
I think Jasmine Brand may have had a cup of
coffee on this thing, but I know Claudia Jordan for sure.
I think Jason Lee also did something so various social

(14:27):
media celebrities or just celebrities of general was in that
third seat, you know, on the Breakfast Club. Then within
let's say, the last two weeks of you know, before
they announced who was gonna be on, they started using
local talent from various big markets. I know, some individuals

(14:47):
from Atlanta participated in filling in for the Breakfast Club,
and you know other you know people down in Miami,
you know La.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
So you know, basically big market radio.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Talent in the company you know, had a couple of
coffee doing the co hosted for the Breakfast Club. So
when it does settles, just Hilarious gets the job she
had announced as the new co host of the Breakfast Club.
This is why I go into the deeper conversation that
I want to have. As I mentioned earlier, there were

(15:22):
several individuals who you know, from the local markets that
they selected to come up and do the breakfast again,
because it was all from the big markets Atlanta, you know,
you know, Washington, DC, maybe La Miami and all that,
but Atlanta, Miami for sure. And I've felt that the

(15:44):
hiring for that position should have been universal, like throughout,
like not just you put a job application out there
and people apply, Like, especially if you're internal and you're
already on air, you should have had an opportunity to
get that job and get that position. And here's why,
because even if you would have hired Claudia.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Jordan, she did radio before. You know.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Jason Lee, you know, does podcasting, so he kind of
understands the radio world as far as with delivering content
and stories. But you picked it as a company, they
picked the individual who doesn't come from a media background.
They come from a comedic background. I'm gonna break down
every flaw why Jess Hilarious shouldn't have been hired to

(16:34):
begin with, and as a result, this situation should have
never happened. And let's start with this I mentioned just
a second ago, Jess.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Hilarious does not have any media education.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Now I don't know if she went to college or not,
but I'm assuming, you know, assuming that her career and
her stardom is from comedy. So she kind of doesn't
remember or use, or kind of care about the things
that media members do to prepare for shows. Because what

(17:10):
people have said was about her segment, just with the
mess that it sounds like somebody gave her a top
a headline five minutes prior to her doing the segment,
which I can see how that is because guess what
we do that on this podcast pretty much all the time.
You know, we don't get paid like that. No, there's
not you know, ad dollars or anything like that that's

(17:31):
put it through. It's so you get what you paid
for type stuff. So I could see her doing that.
But as a result of her doing that, they felt
that her, as a comedian with fans and followers, would
be good enough to fill that seat. This situation is
proven that being a social media influencer comedian you know,

(17:53):
millions of followers, isn't good enough to occupy a radio
seat because there are certain things that you have to
do in radio that the average social media influencer don't know.
It's not just cut the mic on, say something funny
entertained and that's it. I mean, that's part of it.

(18:16):
But that wasn't just Hilarious's role. Keep in mind she
took place of Angela Yee. Angela Yee was not funny.
Angela Yee was informative. So if you if anything, Angela
Yee is informative. Charlotteage, the God is kind of like
the comedic effect even though he has seriousness, but he's

(18:37):
kind of the person that brings the energy and laughter
at times. And DJ Envy controls the traffic. He you know,
he moderates, controls everything, keeps everything organized. That was the
dynamic role of the Breakfast Club. So you so Angela
Yee leaves, who's informative? Now you need someone else to
be informative. Now again, Charlotte Mage, the God can be
informative because at times when Angela Yee wasn't on this

(19:00):
show because you know, she's on vacation, Charlotmagne, the God,
you know, you know, did the EET, so he was informative.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
You know, Charlote Mae can do that.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
So you replaced the informative with another energy, comedic type
person in which when that segment, which you know, combination
of EET and just with the mess is normally an
informative segment, you know, with information, cause that's where the
deformative comes from. With information, you just got a headline

(19:29):
and jokes, so you really don't know what the story
is because the story line is being trampled by jokes.
A lot of people wasn't feeling that, so again, let's
go back. Just keep the main thing the main thing
real quick. That's one of the reasons why you just
can't put people in a radio seat without training. And

(19:54):
what I mean by training is I don't mean by
pressing buttons and all of that stuff. Like in college
you learned those type of things. You learn how to
write stories. I give you an example. If you guys
listen to ESPN Radio and they do the sports center alert,
Chris and Lisi and all of those individuals who do
that have to write those sports center headlines.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
You know, Norfolk State.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Defeats the University of Florida eighty six to seventy six in.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
The first round of the MEA Tournament.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Such and such scored the game high twenty five points
and three assists while defensive. You know, little stuff like that.
It's not just like the headline is like you gotta
add a little bit of tidbits and sauce to it
and kind of go to the next thing. My point
is is that just Hilarious wouldn't know that off the
top of her head because the company won't train you

(20:49):
on basic things like that. And sometimes you shouldn't have
to train somebody on basic things like that, unless it's
something that you know, maybe it's a little bit of
an executive thing something like that. But reporting news, there's
an outline for news gathering and news reporting like those

(21:11):
are things that you learn in journalism class, that you
learn in college. Now again, people think that you can
just cut on a microphone and just talk into a
mic and it's all good.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
It's like, nah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
It is that easy, but it's not that easy. It's
that easy to talk, yes, but what you say out
of your mouth and the way that you say it,
that's where the skill and the decorum comes in. It's
just like when I talk about people with clubhosts, and
it's like people in certain markets, you know, like in Columbus, Ohio,

(21:49):
they don't want to pay the radio guy a premium
for them to club host.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
They think, oh, my man's can do it.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
And it's like, yo, it's not just grab a mic,
say they turn up, turn up, go to the bar, shout.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Out my DJ where the bitches.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
It's way more than that when it comes to event hosting,
a lot more more entertainment stuff like that. So the
executives just think that, oh, this is easy. Now some
of the executives come from the programming side of radio,
which is crazy that they would do this because you, again,

(22:29):
you have to have experience doing it. And it goes
back into what a lot of people are trying to
tap into. Let me get the person with the most
social media followings, with the most impressions, and we can
work it from there. The flaw in that is, for one,
when it comes to pay. Now. I don't know how
much just Hilarious is getting paid, but the average our

(22:52):
Heart employee doesn't like their pay. They feel like they're
being underpaid. They don't get paid like that for the
work that they do. Now, now, is it still enough
money that they're just basically crying and need to shut up?

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Could be.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
But if you're working a job and that comes out
of your mouth that you're not getting paid like that
or you're not making the money that you should, then
that's a company issue, right that even if you're one
of the great talents and you still say that that's crazy,
you should like, if you're a person who works at
iHeart and you're a top level talent in your market,
you should be able to walk and be like, I'm

(23:28):
good as far as financially goes like I'm good, like
I'm well taken care of, I'm well.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Compensated, kind of like Steven A.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Smith for example, Like I know snip Steven and Smith
at times joked around about being underpaid. But that was
like the contract that he accepted type thing. But now
he's not underpaid. He's paid very handsomely. But he never
really you know, went around like probably with the oh no,
he might have been around like yo, I need to
get paid more or whatever, but I don't think he
never said like I'm being like like he's being jerked underpaid,

(23:58):
Like he's probably like I'm being underpaid based on what
I'm bringing to the table. Yeah, people can say that
all day long, like because that's understandable, but just basically
like I'm underpaid, Yeah, that's insane. So you basically have
a situation where you know, individuals in the company don't

(24:19):
make it like that, so you don't have that much
leeway for other people. So depends on how much just
hilarious got paid, you know whatever, like she may commanded,
may not. But from a talent acquisition standpoint, again, people
in program and radio know this already. There are certain

(24:40):
things and rules that you have to do when it
comes to you know, production, radio production, doing a radio show,
especially a radio show like The Breakfast Club. Now, I've
tweeted several times throughout the day about this that if
you wanted to use somebody's social media brand and following

(25:00):
on radio, you have to give them a show that
is similar to what they're known for so their fans
and listeners can come. Now maybe just hilarious. Fans of
listeners did come whatever, and are rightfully so. But what
happened was the people who are authentic fans of The
Breakfast Club started, you know, voicing their opinions. And this

(25:24):
is kind of also how this thing started as well,
if we can backtrack it just a tabit more.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
People on social media was basically saying.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
They like Lauren over just hilarious, because again, Lauren is
informative when it comes to those segments, you know, like
like I said, like the former et or currently just
with the Mess, you know, those type of segments where
you're given news topics needs to be informative, not necessarily entertaining.
And Lauren understood that as a producer of the show,

(25:55):
and you know, acted accordingly.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
So now.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
You have Lauren who's producing, doing her thing out of
side how to mind the show flows better. Lauren is
a producer, so she doesn't feel the need to like
overtalk because she's a producer. That's kind of like how
it is like when you're a producer who's allowed to
talk on air. You be thankful that you can talk

(26:22):
on air, but you don't try to do too much
because the host can be like, I don't want that
producer talking anymore. They just produce. So it's kind of
like a good thing when the co hosts let you
talk as a producer. So it had a natural flow
and rhythm. And again I haven't heard the breakfast club
like helly years. I don't consume it, but as a
person who works in radio, I'm assuming that's how this is.

(26:44):
Charlemagne and Envy can cook a little bit more because
the third wheel, you know, isn't trying to you know,
fit in, like, you know, not step over their toes.
But the third wheel in Jesseelari's needs to have her place,
but the individual who's taken over the third will while
she's gone, and Lauren is basically just you know, waiting
in the weeds, waiting for an opportunity versus kind of

(27:07):
injecting and taking her opportunity, if that makes sense. One
is waiting for the opportunity, the other is taking, and
that's at the expense of the floor to show. So
now again Lauren's doing her thing. The internet is realizing it.
Corey Holcombe, who's been cracking jokes about just hilarious for
a hell of years, he's in on it and basically

(27:28):
just hilarious snaps and goes off. Now I'll get to
that in a second. So she just goes off and snaps.
And that's what we are today professionalism just because and
again it goes back into when you're selecting these people,

(27:48):
you have, you know, radio talent who knows the protocol
and know what goes on with radio, so nothing that
is done affects them. Just hilarious, don't know nothing about
radio spazis. Now what we don't know is is did

(28:10):
she have these conversations in private?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
That's something that we don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
If I have some sources, which I probably can find
something real quick from New York to tell me some things,
I can, you know what I'm saying, let something be
known or whatever. But for the most part, we don't
know if she you know, voiced her opinion before saying,
you know, why is this girl still on the show.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I'm back and.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
I'm you know whatever type thing. So I'm not gonna
badge management just yet, but we'll get there. So there's
a rule in sports that says if you're you don't
lose your job if you're injured. So basically, if I play,
you know, basketball, and I break my hand and I'm

(28:56):
out for you know, six to eight weeks, and my
replacement comes in and balls their ass off, just because
they're balling their ass off, that doesn't mean that I
would lose my job because I didn't lose my job
to bad performance.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
I lost my job to being injured.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Now, what normally happens is is that they'll put the
benchwarmer back on the bench, but you know, give them
more minutes off the bench because they've proven that they
can be productive, and they put the injured starter back
in after they're healed and kind of see how it
goes if the injured starter is playing their game and
the game and the team is flowing the way that
they flowed with the injured player coming back, and it's

(29:40):
normal cool, they let it slide despite the fact they'd
be like, dang, but the bench woman was hooping though.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
But because everything goes back to Norman and where it was.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Now, if the injured player comes back to the lineup
and he sluggish a little bit, and then you got
to inject the the backup a little bit more. Now
there's a discussion of of who should play, because now
we're talking about productivity. But it might be slightly different
in a sports setting than an on air setting because
the metrics of whether you're being productive or not are

(30:12):
not on the night league basis, So that might be
something different as far as how that goes. But for
the most part though, it's still the same analogy, especially
a just hilarious case because she was pregnant. Now, why
did she get pregnant not so long after accepting a position?
That's a woman's conversation. I don't have a woman on
the show right now. We're looking for female co hosts.

(30:34):
By the way, hit up the show at the essence
of spirits. Don't you either be giving experience or hit
me up at Henne Hardaway seven to five on everything.
But yeah, we're not gonna touch on that. But in
other professions. Even I think I've seen some things in
a WWE with his wrestler named Carmela getting pregnant at
a certain time in the work world, does it normally

(30:56):
weigh out well, good, bad or in different I'm just saying, though,
but justs Larious was pregnant, she was gonna maternity leave,
she came back. Everything should be how it was, you know, Lauren,
you digit thing. Go back to the producer chair, you know,
either behind the wall or in the cut where you
know they are in their studio, and keep everything moving.
So from that aspect, I understand just hilarious. Now if

(31:20):
she had a conversation behind the scenes, then I would
again understand her crashing out on Instagram live because in
her eyes, I can see why she's frustrated. But again,
I'm still gonna be under the main belief, and I'm

(31:41):
dying on this hill that she should never have been
hired in the first place as either an established radio
personality from another market or an up and coming person
from behind the scenes kind of like a Lauren or
or a mid major. You know, somebody within the company

(32:04):
should have had that role with the Breakfast Club over
just hilarious. I'm gonna always stand on that business because
that goes into the executives not knowing how to evaluate
talent and pick talent. Just Hilarious is a talented person,
but she's not a radio talent.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
There's a difference.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
She's talented as a comedian and can bring eyeballs to
the yard, but she's not a radio talent.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
There's a difference.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
So now you have Just Hilarious feeling a certain way
about basically y'all playing with her in her face and
again rightfully, so she could feel that way for sure.
DJ Envy said, you know, get out your feelings. It's
not that type of situation. But you can't tell a
person how to feel, you know, especially a woman.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
We all know that for sure.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
You cannot tell a woman how to feel. So, you know,
don't do that, fellas, don't do that. That's like man's plaining,
don't do that. So on the other side of that coin, though,
Lauren does a very good job because she is and
I'm assuming she went to college. She has a mass

(33:19):
colm degree in you know, broadcast media. In some sort
of formal way, maybe she you know, maybe she has
a journalism portion of her media background where she has
to what she had to learn how to write.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
And stuff like that and present stories.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
And that translates to radio, especially on a morning show
where the morning show isn't like any other show during
a day where it's more music. It's actually it's about
it's more talking than it is music.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
I probably say it's about sixty five.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Forty five I mean sixty five thirty five excuse me,
talking than the you know ratio of talking to music
than it is during the regular day. So there's more
opportunities to talk, there's more opportunities to showcase your talent,
and there's more you know, breathing room or whatever.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
And Lauren again took advantage of it.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
She did exactly what she was supposed to do, which
is a producer and a filling role to her talent,
which just hilario, which that was kind of like they
was taking shots at each other, but Lauren was more professional.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
She was saying, you're my talent, kind of like a
possessor type thing. It's like, yeah, you're the talent on
the show, but you're my talent. I'm the producer that
gives you the information that you need to do your show.
Your mind, bitch, and you know what I'm saying, just
hilarious energy. Is you belong in the back, bitch. You
know what I'm saying, you're the help.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
So that's the type of energy that they was kind
of like given to each other, which is wild work.
But again it goes back into what I'm a stand
on business on just hilarious should have never been hired
for that position because let's say Lauren didn't have any
respect for her from the beginning. Let's say, for example,

(35:07):
Lauren actually tried out for that position and didn't get
it because of just hilarious, but because she did so good.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
In her cry out or whatever, and she's in.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
The building, They're like, Okay, well, look we'll make you
a producer on the Breakfast Club because I've seen that
posting as well, people looking for a producer, you know,
for the show or whatever. And against I didn't get
a phone call or an interview about that neither. But
again that goes back to bad management about talent acquisition.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
We'll talk about that later.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
So Lauren, you know, could have applied and been pushed
to the back and all that stuff, and Lauren is
you know, hating on her now just ceilarious. Wouldn't have
no reason to hate on Lauren because she's not a threat.
You know, I'm saying, she's a producer, she's in a
back whatever. But once she's seen the internet and social
media say, oh Lauren is better than just hilarious, just

(35:57):
hilarious crashed out. You know.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'm not saying.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
I'm not gonna say rightfully, so that's kind of like
a professional type thing. But I wanted to bring something
up real quick that I brung up on on Twitter.
If you're a fan of the Breakfast Club, and I
don't know that many people are, but there are those
people that are fans, you know, But I wouldn't even
say that they're fans of the Breakfast Club. I would
just say that in their mourning ritual, the radio is on,

(36:23):
whether it's in the car, whether it's the app or whatever.
Any morning show that's on, you know, Power one oh
five to one, or any breakfast or the morning show
that would be on from six to ten would get
run as long as as halfway decent.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
So let's just put that out there.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
But let's just say, for the sake of conversation, there's
fans of the Breakfast Club if you're fans of The
Breakfast Club, pep me on this. Have you noticed that
if Charlemagne, Envy or the time Ye was out, there
was never a replacement for them on the show, like
a fill in.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Like, for example, if DJ Envy was on the show, but.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Envy Drive Show, then either Charlemagne or Angela Ye would
drop the show in Envy's place while doing their duties too.
If Ye wasn't there, and you know, you got the
eet and all of that stuff, the Rumal Report and
all of that, then Charlemagne would do the Rumal Report

(37:19):
in place of Angela Yee. If Charlemagne wasn't there, you know,
I think he might have had donkey of the day's
pre recorded. I really don't remember like that for real,
for real, but I know that it will be a
two man show with Ye and Envy. And I've always wondered,
as a person who works with our heart, It's like, yo,

(37:40):
like why do they never allow people to fill in
those spots, you know, to keep you know, the show
kind of like you know, not moving but normalish or whatever.
This example with just Hilarious and Lauren is exactly why
I think they never did, because.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
If you put.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Somebody in Envy's place and in Charlemagne's place, or or
at the time, in Yee's place, and they do a
better job, and the fans and the listeners are like, hey,
we like this person. This is what executives don't be doing.
Executives have their heads under the ground like an ostrich

(38:23):
when it comes to stuff on the internet. Because the
Internet can say, hey, we like this person more, the
radio executives won't even pay it no mind. They kind
of consider it like we're not gonna let the inmates
run the asylum. We know what's best. We're the professionals.
That would be true if we're talking about finance, law, medicine,

(38:50):
you know, anything like that. We're talking about something where
the people where you say they're not the professionals, they
don't know, are a factor in your equation because they're
the consumers that has to listen to our product in
order for us to have ratings, which as a result
allows us to be able to have sponsors and advertisers,
which pitched revenue in the station, which allows people to

(39:13):
be paid instead of having one person do multiple jobs. So, yeah,
if the listeners are telling you we like this more,
I'm not saying you have to accommodate it every time,
but listen to it, take a look at it, and
and that's what happened. Now, Charlemagne God never had anybody

(39:35):
from like, you know, like, hey, this is such an
us feeling in for Charlamagne the God, this is the
Breakfast Club, or hey, this is Charlomagne God, Angeliae Yee
and such and such feeling in for DJ Envy we
are the Breakfast Like you never heard any of that
shit before.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
And I'm thinking these are the reasons.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Why they might have had something in the contract to
say that, yo, if we're out on vacation, don't use feelings.
I mean, has to be something because, like I said,
I've never seen just because I mean, I get it.
It's a three man show and you easily could just
like you know, just use one blessed person whatever.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
I just always thought that that was weird. But again
it ties into why we're here now. Just hilarious was
a third person on the show because again, think about it,
they never with Angela Yee. They never replaced her when
she and again I'm an all ma replace, so they
never used a felling when she was on vacation, but

(40:37):
justs Hilarious is on maternity leave.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
They use a felling, which is the producer. The Breakfast
Club always had producers. Now whether the producers were talent
enough to talk and do stuff that's yet to be seen.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Because some producers are some producers aren't, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Some producers are producers for a reason. Some producers are
producers out of circumstance.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
So we don't know the level of producers from the past,
but we know with this interration of the Breakfast Club,
Lauren is very capable on air talent and held herself
down very well, which as a result, people recognized that
and was like, Yo, we'd rather have her or listen
to her over just Hilarious. You know, whatever amount of
money that they paid her, you know type shit like that,

(41:22):
kind of like you know, with the Seahawks back in
the day, they paid Matt Flynn like million, like millions
of millions of dollars per year to be their quarterback.
Russell Wilson came in third round draft pick, mopped up
everything in training camp, and they were like, man, fuck
the money, we got to go with the better talent,
the better product on the field. Again, it goes back

(41:44):
into what I was going to say about the radio
executives not knowing how to pick talent, not knowing how
to evaluate talent, and picking talent based on social media
numbers and expressions. That's not what our industry is about.
Like I tell people this all the time. When you're
a radio personality, you work in radio. You don't work

(42:04):
on social media. You don't work in YouTube. You don't
work in Instagram, you don't work in snapchat, you don't
work in TikTok, you don't work in twitch, you don't
work on any of these streaming platforms. You work in radio.
So your metrics are totally different than radio. A person
can have you know, two million followers and YouTube videos

(42:29):
of you know, millions of views, you know, one hundred
thousand views and stuff like that. But will that necessarily
translate into radio. Because even if you do the thing
where you say, well, we're going to take you know,
this person and put them on radio because they have.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
A brand, they have a following.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Yeah, their brand and their following is based on what
they built, not according to what you're trying.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
To put them in. So basically meaning if you as
a fan of Just Hilarious, and you put her in
the breakfast club situation, but just Hilarious can't be just hilarious.
Now her fans is looking at her crazy like, oh,
this ain't it. Why are you doing all of this
new stuff? Go back to doing what you're doing. And
now her fan base she loses some because she's trying

(43:10):
to do something different, mainly because as a company you
can develop your own talent. You want to use people
who already have established people. That's why you don't see
a lot of them on and again. Me and three
two one talked about this the last time we had
a radio conversation. Not the drew skis the conscience all
of them, like, you're not about to get them on
professional radio or from radio, because one you're going to

(43:33):
have to pay them a substantial bag and them in
the radio format might not work. It might not work.
Like I said with Just Hilarious, the only way.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
That shit would work is if you gave her her
own show where it's centered around her comedy, where she
may have a professional radio person drive the show for
kind of like a Doug Bank site situation where he
had De d maguire driving the show for Doug Banks
that type of shit. You know what I'm saying, Well,
Doug Banks is the name, he's the brand. But the

(44:07):
I'm not gonna say, the person with the better voice,
but or the more smoother voice, or just that you know,
hosting type thing.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
But shoot, she drives the show. She tell us what
topics to talk about.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
I'll chime in with my thoughts because people want to
hear what I gotta say.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
But she drives the show.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
A situation like that, that's how you make a just
hilarious eat in this radio industry. But just throwing her
on and cause again, the company's not gonna be like, Okay,
this is how you do this is how you write
for print, this is how you write a news story
for radio. No one's gonna tell her how to do scriptwriting.
Like nobody's gonna do that shit because for the most part,

(44:41):
the average person did it so long ago they may
only know it in muscle memory if they're doing it,
so it's kind of like, Okay, I can write it
for you, or if you write it, I can prove
read it. But as far as teaching them how to
do it, hell no, you know what I'm saying that
shit is embedded in our minds. Charlomagne the God and
DJ and Mey wasn't gonna do and shaited Envy fucking
wind to Hampton that Nigga.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Probably could have told her like something.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
But again, if she's there for her comedian her, you know,
her comedic skills, then maybe they don't check her on
journalism type stuff. But you put her in a slot
that is journalism. It's just with the mess, which again
it kind of took place of the Rumal report. So yeah,

(45:25):
Charlotte Magee God and DJ Envy. I think I know
Charlottage went to a college, but I don't think he graduated.
If I remember reading his book, his first book, I
don't think he graduated from a college. So the only
person in the breakfast club with an education is Envy.
And you think Envy's gonna go through a fucking scriptwriting

(45:46):
class with Ess Hilarious to make sure that she's doing
her job, Well fuck no. So again, just Hilarious should
not have been hired to do that position over established
or current radio people that was already in the company.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Should not have happened.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
But again it just goes all into talent acquisition, knowing
who is talented or whatever, because okay, let's let me
let me move forward a little, because I don't want
to say the same thing twice. So what the executives
that I want to, you know, kind of sort of
take a shot at or whatever. Are you paying attention

(46:30):
to what's going on on social media when it comes
to your talent and your people because I know in
several markets that I've been around, the executives don't even
consume the product whatsoever. So it's like, do y'all listen
to hip hop and R and B? Do y'all really
know what's going on in our genre? Do y'all really
know what's going on in our workplace?

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Probably not? And it's okay, you don't know what's going on. Cool.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
So when you have just hilarious who again, you guys
have her on because she has you know, millions of
followers and all that and creates millions of impressions you know,
through social media. She's crashing out on social media about
what the fuck is going on. We all know morning
shows start early because you know it's early. You gotta

(47:23):
wake up early as fuck. There's no way in hell
I would have had anybody crack open a microphone unless
the conversation that they had on air would have happened
in a room, I wouldn't give a fuck if I

(47:45):
just gotta have DJ Andrey, charlamagnea God and Just Hilarious.
We are the breakfast Club. We got more requests coming
up next, or listen to this, whatever whatever filler shit
they had to do. I would have done that until
I had all four them in a room and had
the conversation that they had on air, because what they
ended up doing was was the messy shit that the

(48:11):
Code of Conduct and our heart tell us pretty much
not to do, which is, you know, kind of air
out company grievances or company workplace disputes on social media.
So once Just Hilarious put it out on social media,
it's just like when Lebron ran up on Steven and
Steven A weren't gonna talk about it because he felt
it was nothing. But once it goes viral and you're

(48:32):
in a business of content creation, you got to talk
about it now on your show. So they had to
talk about it. But what I'm saying is that the
energy that they was having because like I said, you know,
Jesse Hilarius was calling Lauren Shorty Lawn was calling just
hilarious my talent. So a lot of you know, subtle
digs and stuff, you know. Charlemagne God was gas lighting.

(48:55):
DJ Envy was being dismissed. So it was a lot
of crazy stuff going on. I did not watch it.
I'm telling you this right now. I did not watch
it because I just knew it would be cringe worthy
and I might have said some things that might would
have got me fired. Because I know the executives that
work in our Heart media in New York.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
I know them.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
I'm not saying I know them personally, like personally know them,
but I can reach out to them.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I know the work that they've done or the work
the lack of work that they've done.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
I can tag them in these posts and stuff like that.
But I'm not gonna do that because it goes into
why the point I'm making is they should not have
had this conversation on the radio.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
The conversation they should have.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Had on the radio is basically like the mild manner
after all heads have cooled down. Yeah, I felt a
certain way because you know, I was on maternity leave.
It was a definite situation. I don't know if it's
her first child or not, but you know, you know,
she talked about how she feels well, you know, mother
and all of this stuff. And I come back to
work and you know, like you're kind of stealing my job.
I don't know what's going on. And then she comes

(50:07):
and then you know, Lauren comes back and like, oh,
Cad definitely understand that or whatever.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
I was just pretty much, you know, doing my job
that you know they asked me to do.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
You know, I'm not the famous person amongst the group here,
so I'm pretty much do what I'm told to do
my job whatever, And you know, kind of have like
that mild verge of the conversation where for us it's like, oh,
y'all talked about it, but whatever whatever, versus the embarrassment
that they did. Because with Justelario's contract is up, she's gone.

(50:37):
They're not gonna fire her now because they're gonna have
to pay her contract, you know what I'm saying. No,
it ain't like most on air talent when you get
laid off or you get you know, cut or whatever,
they basically give you a severance package. Like Juste Larius
is probably full fledged contracted where if she.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Leaves, she gets all of her bread.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
I don't know if she has a far as of
her contract, just like conduct detrimental to the company, because
I can make the argument that blasting the number one
morning show in urban radio for the company is kind
of like, you know, going against you know, the company
or whatever. You know what I'm saying, that type of

(51:20):
that type of situation, you know, actions detrimental to you know,
the company or to the station or whatever to the show.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
So definitely that's the thing right there.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
But the the our heart is not gonna let the
Breakfast Club go for any reason. Because I want you,
I want to paint this picture before we go. How
many of you can have the Feds roll up to
your job, take computers, take laptop, take technology, and walk
away and you still have your job. That was DJ
Envy not too long ago with the whole you know,

(51:54):
real estate fraud thing. I don't know how that case
went or not, but what I'm saying is that at worst,
or best of suspension, a couple of days suspension to
figure it out. They didn't do shit to Envy whatsoever.
All they said was was envy that was gonna cooperate.
I don't know anybody's job that will let the Feds

(52:16):
just come through and take computers and laptops. I don't
know any that's insane. Charlemagne God was accused of some
stuff too, which in today's climax, getting accused of what
Charlmage was accused for normally would get you to lose.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Your job too.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
My point in saying to all of this is that
our heart doesn't know how to develop talent so badly
that Charlemagne the God can have some serious accusations and
still keep his job.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
DJ Envy can have some.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Serious accusations and keep his job and nobody says anything
after that. That's how bad our heart is at talent
acquisition and talent management and or development. They can't trust
themselves to let the Breakfast Club go and that the
next morning show can carry on.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Now.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Earlier, I said that not everyone can do our job,
and what I mean by that is not everyone outside
of our industry can do our job, but any one
of us who currently do radio can do the Breakfast
Club's job as long as you have those components. Like
you said, you have to have one person to drive

(53:32):
the show to keep everything organized one person to be
very informative and the other one to be very or
somewhat entertaining, probably very entertaining. But I mean, if you
have a three man crew, those are the ingredients that
you need for a successful morning show. And then obviously
good skits, good segments, and celebrity interviews because it is

(53:53):
a morning show. Anybody can do the Breakfast Club. And
again that's not the minimum of the Breakfast Club up
for what they've done over the past fifteen plus years.
It's not to minimize that. I'm just saying people in
our industry, So I can take somebody who does radio
in Atlanta, somebody that does radio in Norfolk, somebody that

(54:13):
does radio in la or Dallas or whatever, you know,
put them together and they can do a breakfast club,
you know show, whatever, they can do it.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
They can do a morning show. It's not like.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Charlotte Mane and Envy owned the name the Breakfast Club.
It's not like they owned the show. The show was
created by iHeart. That was one of the things that damn,
I can't I'm thinking, I'm looking at them. I can't
even think of a name right that I know. It's
Duke Poppinson, which actually, I shouldn't know who the fuck
I'm looking at right now. Dame Dash when Dame Dash

(54:48):
is on The Breakfast Club a couple of years ago,
and he mentioned that, Yo, y'all don't own the Breakfast Club.
If the Breakfast Club gets taken away, what do y'all have?
And that's a lot of radio talent in our industry.
If you take away their show, what do they have?
Most of them don't have a podcast. Most of them
don't have a media network that they're working behind the scenes.

(55:08):
Most of them they put all of their eggs in
the iHeart Radio one Odyssey basket. Now for some of
them is rightfully so if they pay you a salary
enough and your you know, your bills are paid and
you have benefits. Now, not talking about the people who
still make one hundred and fifty thousand a year, but
they want to make like two hundred thousand a year
or you know, two fifty thousand a year because of

(55:30):
the life out that they live. It's like, nah, bro,
you already make six figures. Bro, minimize your shit a
little bit, you know what I mean? Because a lot
there's a lot of people that don't make a portion
of what you make and you want to cry about
making so those individuals not But for the most part,
most of the individuals are secure and satisfied.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
With what they got going on.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
If you're an executive, so you don't make that, so
you don't make that fucking much money if.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
You're everybody else.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
So with the Breakfast Club, again, anybody can do the job.
To say the least, Lauren right now is showing you
that anybody can do the job. They just haven't put
a person in dj NVC outside of a charlotm Man
or Angela Yee to actually drive the show. So I'm

(56:21):
saying again, I'm saying all that to say iheart's talent
acquisition or their talent.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
You know, basically finding talent just isn't good because they
use the wrong metrics.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
They use social media metrics instead of Again, with radio,
it's kind of like the eye test. Like if you
know your radio station has millions of listeners, millions of
listeners and radio is a local situation, right, radio is local?

(56:57):
You having a million followers and you who don't mean
shit to me. Now again, the Breakfast Club is a
national product.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
But just bible me real quick.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
You having millions of followers and all of that shit
across the world don't matter when my radio or my
medium is local radio, not national radio. Every radio show
or radio it's not a national show. Some of these
shows are local shows. So if you bring in someone

(57:27):
with a million followers, yeah, most of those followers, at
least eighty percent of those followers are not going to
be local. So how does their other fan base get
to listen to this local radio show that they're on. Again,

(57:48):
that's saying if you want somebody with millions of followers
to join your radio show, like, that's like the only
way that you can get on is if you got
millions of followers or already type shit. Because again, if
you as a station already have millions of followers, you
just need people to entertain those individuals and make sure

(58:08):
that they stay locked in. And that's the metric that
you have to use to evaluate a local radio talent.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Can you keep people listening to the radio.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
If the answer is yes, then you go into how
can we monetize off this show? Not do you have
millions of followers that you can bring your followers to
our station.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Naw, you're listening to the SS experience on S and
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