The Steep Stuff Podcast
Welcome to the Steep Stuff Podcast, your source for all things Sub-Ultra Mountain Running
Episodes
The transition from collegiate track to mountain trails represents one of running's most fascinating journeys – and Kyla Christopher-Moody is navigating it with remarkable authenticity and talent. Fresh off her selection to the 2025 Trail Team Elite, Kyla joins us to share her path from Michigan high school standout to Montana State University track athlete and now emerging trail running competitor.
Her ...
For Devin Pancake, trail running represents much more than a post-collegiate athletic pursuit—it's a thoughtful 30-year journey he's just beginning. Fresh off his win at the Antelope Island Buffalo Run 25K and his selection for the 2025 Trail Team Elite, Devin brings refreshing perspective to a sport that often celebrates immediate success.
The conversation traces Devin's path from running a 4:...
Shay Aquilano's remarkable transformation from college soccer player to elite ultrarunner showcases what's possible when passion meets purpose in the mountains. Having recently captured the Gorge Waterfalls 100K championship and secured a coveted Western States lottery spot, Shay joins the Steep Stuff Podcast to walk us through her unique journey into the ultrarunning world.
Unlike many elite trail ...
The ultra-trail world is buzzing as Canyon's 50K approaches, and we've got the ultimate preview loaded with analysis, predictions, and some good old-fashioned trash talk. In this special episode, host James Lauriello teams up with guest co-host Teddy Tonelli to break down what might be the most anticipated ultrarunning matchup of the year: defending champion Eli Hemming versus 2023 winner Hayden Hawks.
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Sophie Wright is a name you need to know in the American mountain running scene. Fresh off completing her collegiate career at Western Washington University—where she holds the school record in the mile—this Alaskan-born trail runner is ready to make waves on the professional circuit as a 2025 Trail Team Selection athlete.
Growing up in Palmer, Alaska provided Sophie with the perfect training environment. Sur...
From the rugged trails of rural New Mexico to NCAA Division I running and now the competitive mountain racing scene, Emily Clarke's journey represents a thoughtful evolution in running specialties that many athletes aspire to navigate. Fresh off her selection to the 2025 Trail Team Elite roster and a second-place finish at Way Too Cool 50K, Emily joins us to share the insights she's gathered along her unique...
Step onto the trails with Oakley Olson, the collegiate steeplechase specialist turned mountain running phenom who's rapidly ascending to the top of the trail running world. Fresh from her selection to the 2025 Trail Team Elite, Oakley shares the remarkable journey that took her from soccer fields to mountain summits.
Oakley reveals how a two-mile time trial during soccer practice unexpectedly launched he...
The 2024 Golden Trail Series kicks off in Japan with the technically challenging Kobe Trail race, and we've got the complete preview to get you ready for all the action. This 21K mountain course packs a serious punch with nearly 7,000 feet of climbing across four increasingly difficult loops, culminating in a brutal final climb that will separate the contenders from the pretenders.
What makes this race p...
Hawk Call might be the son of OCR legend Hobie Call, but he's rapidly making a name for himself as one of America's most promising mountain runners.
After finding success on the track at Utah Valley University with a 14:42 5K PR, Hawk initially followed his father's footsteps into obstacle course racing. However, the explosive growth of trail running soon captured his attention, and in 2024 he ...
Meet Alison Rudy, a rising star in the mountain running community who's challenging conventional paths to success in the sport. From her home base in Leadville, Colorado—elevation 10,000 feet—Alison is crafting a remarkable career focused on sub-ultra distances and uphill dominance.
Our conversation weaves through Ali's fascinating background as a "third culture kid" who grew up moving bet...
In this enlightening conversation with ultrarunner Jazmine Lowther, we explore the dynamic intersection of elite performance, career transitions, and authentic living in the mountain sports world. Jazmine takes us inside her recent move from The North Face to Arc'teryx, revealing the emotional complexity of brand identity for professional athletes and the forward-thinking athlete support systems being developed i...
Few athletes embody the perfect balance between professional intensity and joyful participation quite like Garrett "The Parrot" Corcoran. A mechanical engineer with degrees from UC Berkeley who now develops sustainable jet fuel, Corcoran brings the same methodical approach to trail running that he applies to his technical work - but with a crucial difference: he never forgets to have fun.
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Sydney Petersen's meteoric rise in the trail running world is a testament to what happens when natural talent meets mountain passion. From walking on to Colorado State University's team to signing a professional contract with Brooks Trail Runners in just one competitive season, her journey exemplifies the beautiful transition many athletes experience when moving from track to trails.
Growing up in t...
Meet the architect behind American trail running's most influential collegiate program. Josh Eberly, head coach of Western Colorado University's trail running team, has created something truly unique in the running world: the only dedicated collegiate trail running program in the United States.
What began as a small experiment has evolved into a powerhouse that's reshaping how young runners tra...
In a special one-year anniversary celebration of the Steep Stuff Podcast, host James Lauriello sits down with mountain running sensation Bailey Kowalczyk for a revealing conversation about her remarkable journey from track athlete to three-time RUT 28K champion.
Bailey takes us through her formative years in upstate New York, where weekend family hikes in the Adirondacks unknowingly built the foundation for h...
Joan DeLeon's path to becoming one of trail running's most exciting talents defies conventional narratives. From the concrete streets of Waco, Texas, to stunning the mountain running world by beating Joe Gray at A-Basin, his journey combines raw talent with refreshing authenticity.
Growing up without mountains or trails, DeLeon's running foundation came through summer track programs where Baylo...
From track star to mountain master, Dan Curts path to the pinnacle of sub-ultra trail running defies conventional wisdom. While many elite athletes flock to western training hubs like Boulder or Flagstaff, Kurtz has embraced the harsh New England winters and technical terrain of his Northeast home. "Four below this morning," he mentions casually, "but that teaches you something that has to translate to ...
What does it take to transform from a competitive tennis player into one of trail running's most exciting uphill specialists? Remy Leroux shares his remarkable journey with refreshing candor and scientific precision in this wide-ranging conversation about the evolution of mountain running.
Fresh off his impressive third-place finish at the Big Alta 50K against elite competition, Remy opens up about findi...
Big Alta 50K & 28K Race Companion with Co-Host, Nick Tusa
When Gwen Rudy tore her ACL last February, followed by ankle surgery in June, few would have predicted she'd be competing for an Olympic spot just months later. Yet here she is, relocating to Europe for six weeks to help Team USA secure their continental qualification for ski mountaineering's Olympic debut in 2026.
From her home in Leadville, Colorado at 10,000 feet elevation, Gwen shares the fascin...
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