July 1, 2024 • 56 mins
Curious about how a blind golden retriever can change lives? Join us me, Julie Marty-Pearson, as I talk with Joanne George, who shares her incredible journey from being a veterinary technician to a passionate animal advocate and dog trainer. Discover the heartwarming story of Smiley, a golden retriever born without eyes, and how he overcame his challenges to become an inspirational therapy dog. Joanne recounts the early days of animal rescue before social media brought widespread awareness and sheds light on how attitudes towards disabled pets have shifted over time.
But the journey doesn't stop there. We'll also dive into the transformative benefits of CBD for both pets and humans. Joanne discusses her experiences with CBD, highlighting its impact on anxiety, stress, and overall well-being. From helping a blind dog named Sunny manage severe anxiety to improving the quality of life for an older dog suffering from dementia and arthritis, CBD has proven to be a game-changer. Tune in to learn more about the importance of quality in CBD products and hear inspiring success stories that demonstrate the power of compassionate care and innovative solutions.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hello, my friends and fellow animal lovers, welcome
to a brand new episode of theStory of my Pet podcast.
I am your host, julie MartyPearson.
As always, proud fur mom andall around animal advocate.
I'm so happy to have you herefor another inspiring pet story.
(00:29):
I can't wait for you to meet myguest, joanne, and hear all
about her amazing fur family andall of the experience she has
had from being a vet tech to adog trainer, to a proud fur mom
and helping animals in needwherever she can.
I hope you enjoy the stories weare about to tell.
(00:52):
Thank you again for being here.
Much love to.
I am so excited you have noidea to welcome a new guest to
(01:13):
the story of my pet I have withme today, joanne George.
Joanne, thank you so much forbeing here.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Thank you for inviting me, but I know it's not
just, it's not me that you'reexcited about, it's this guy.
You know.
Take it Well.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I mean I can say, oh Buck, Hi Buck, oh, my God,
everybody loves Buck.
Yes, everybody loves him, sucha good boy.
That's why, oh, I have beenfollowing Joanne I don't even
know how long for years andyears, way back to when the
(01:49):
focus of your social was yourdog Smiley and everything you
did with him.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, let's go backwards a little bit and have
you.
You can tell us a little bitabout yourself, where you're
coming from, for sure, and whenyou started being on social and
sharing your pets with everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Okay, so I'm in Ontario, canada, and way back
when I was a veterinarytechnician and ask any
veterinary technician we end uptaking home a lot of pets and
finding homes for animals thatare basically being dumped or
something wrong with them.
So we always end up takingsomething home that's injured or
(02:29):
lost, orphaned, abandoned, allthose things.
And keep in mind this is wayback in the day, before this
makes me sound really old butbefore the internet, really
Smiley came to me.
Before we didn't have internet,we didn't have any social
medias, there was no Instagram,no, nothing.
Anyway, we got wind of this dogthat was a golden retriever,
(02:54):
that was born without eyes.
And so I say that there was nointernet because that's very
important, because we heard thisand we had never heard of a dog
being born without eyes.
But back then if it wasn't yourneighbor or a friend, you didn't
hear about it unless it was inthe newspaper or something like
that.
So we had never heard about adog being born without eyes.
(03:16):
And also, back then that was inthe days where vets would
euthanize a dog with that kindof disability, so that didn't
happen.
You know what I mean.
There weren't dogs like thereis now, like dogs with
wheelchairs and all thesedisabilities that people are
(03:36):
realizing.
Dogs can live like that.
So there just really wasn't.
We had never heard of somethinglike this.
Because, as a puppy, if abreeder or whoever it was, wow,
this puppy doesn't have eyes andit's now six weeks, then that
would say you put it down, andpeople would.
That's not the case now,thankfully, because we're
hearing more, we're able toinvestigate things, we're able
(03:59):
to explore other people with thesame issue.
So anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
No, I think that is so important because it's so
funny, as you were saying thatI'm thinking of multiple animal
accounts I follow now, blind,deaf, no eyes.
I have no legs, no arms.
I follow one farm that justtook on a calf that was born
with no eyes.
Yeah, like it's very common.
Yes, learning about this, I'llcall it a birth defect because
(04:23):
it is was born with no eyes.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, Like it's very common.
Yes, Learning about this, I'llcall it a birth defect because
it is.
They called it severemicro-ophthalmia, so severe
because really there was no eyes, but micro meaning eye, or
ophthalmia.
Micro meaning small, sorry,micro-ophthalmia, so really
small eyes.
So there's different degrees.
But Smiley had no eyeballs atall.
(04:45):
But I recall when I was inschool there was a girl that had
very small eyes, Her eyeballswere very small and she was
technically blind.
But anyway, so it happens inpeople as well and in all
animals.
Now I've seen it'smicrocephalmia in, I think,
every species of animal.
So, and actually in Smiley thereason we've heard about him is
(05:08):
because they were asking us tocome to this puppy mill to put
him down and the STCA had goneinto this puppy mill, found out
about it and there was a lot ofneglect and it was basically
like it was a puppy mill, whichmeans they are unable to care
for the dogs that they have.
At one point it was a topbreeder of golden retrievers,
(05:28):
but then it got away from her.
I'm gonna keep this one.
This one didn't sell might wantto breed.
That one fell in love with thatone and next thing there's 100
breeding dogs and about 50puppies on the ground.
So anyway, the long, the shortpart of the story is that we
were as a veterinary technician.
We were going to go there andeuthanize.
(05:50):
There was about 20 goldens thatthe SPCA deemed needed
veterinary care and her, theowner, as the owner of these
dogs, because dogs are property,she decided that she was just
going to euthanize this list of20 dogs and because dogs are
property, she has every right todo that.
(06:11):
But I was like I'm not going.
I'm not coming to hold down 20dogs and watch them be
euthanized.
I said I'm not going and thenwe all decided what if we went?
What if we put smiles on ourfaces and asked her for these
dogs?
Would she give us these dogsInstead of we go there?
Do you know what I mean?
(06:31):
Try to keep a calm level andask her.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
It makes a difference .
I've done it myself.
The way you ask people, youwant to be angry with them.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, exactly yeah, it's not going to help.
So we just thought, let's tryit, and we prepared, and we
brought trucks, we borrowedtrucks and crates, and and she
agreed, and so we took, andsmiley was one of them, and the
sbc even deemed him no qualityof life and suffering.
So basically, so basically,smiley would have been born in
(07:03):
2005.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Okay, okay so probably 15, 20 years ago.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, exactly.
So it's just amazing that backthen, only 10, 15 years ago,
they weren't even recognizingthat, hey, dogs can live, even
though there's people blind.
They hadn't recognized thatdogs could live a good quality
of life, even though they wereborn without eyes.
And anyway, we were dividingthe dogs up between a couple of
(07:32):
the girls that went, the othertechnicians, and they were all
saying, joanne, you have to takethe blind dog.
And I was like I've got a crazygreat dane at home.
He was a rescue also that wasgoing to be put to sleep.
He, he was an albino Great Dane.
He was deaf in one ear and dogsdid not like him.
He was scary to look at.
He was drooling in eyes down tohere and big and white, and you
(07:54):
know these blue, red eyes.
So I was like he's going to befreaked out if he comes to my
house.
He can't come.
And they were like you musttake him.
You're the one into dogbehavior, you take him.
And I was like, okay, and Itook him and that was my first
lesson on this.
Is that finally?
This is what I came to realizethat a blind dog does.
(08:18):
They don't judge.
All the dogs in my neighborhoodjudged this great Dane and went
scary ugly I don't know.
They did not like him.
And this was my Great Dane.
His name was Tyler.
This was his first friend.
Smiley was his first friendbecause no dogs and people even
saw him and crossed the road.
So that was my first littlelesson.
(08:40):
Wow, he sees with his heart andTyler was a very friendly dog
and Smiley knew that because hesensed that even though it was
really excitable, that was, itwas harmless and it was friendly
and excitable and anyway theywere like the best of friends
and and I wasn't going to keephim, I was just trying to find
(09:01):
him a home.
And that's the other thing is,everybody came to see him.
He even went out on a trial andeverybody was just like it was
too hard.
No, I couldn't have a blind dog.
We go camping.
I'm like, okay, oh, and thisperson, they have a cottage so
they wouldn't be able to have ablind dog there.
We like to do all theseactivities, we want to have
(09:22):
children, so I could never havea blind dog and I'm like you
can't have a blind dog with allthese things.
So I was actually listening toall this and really by default,
is why he stayed with me becausenobody would take him and I had
people coming in.
I found homes for all theseother golden retrievers.
No issues, it's a goldenretriever, everybody loves them
(09:42):
and I had one right up.
They're the best dogs the bestdogs, exactly like you can't go
wrong.
And really just listening toeverybody about blind dogs, I
was thinking, wow, I didn'trealize it was going to be so
difficult and right.
So then he ended up staying andhe taught me everything how I
train dogs.
(10:02):
Now I learned from Smileybecause he first of all, he was
in the puppy mill for the firsttwo years of his life, just with
a ton of other dogs loose.
But he was very natural.
He used his nose, he used hisears and he didn't judge with
his eyes.
Eyes get us into trouble, Evenus.
(10:22):
We judge the stereotyping, thatkind of thing.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And Smiley didn't do that.
That's amazing.
I love that so much.
Yeah, because when I havevolunteered to work in the
shelter with rescues, peoplejudge right away by looking at a
dog.
I don't know how many timesI've had to say to people it's
not the breed, it's theindividual dog.
Every dog's temperament isdifferent.
(10:50):
Every about the dog, yeah, andit's the breed specific stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yes, there are characteristics that are most
common but that, just likepeople, it doesn't define who
they are before they've evenstarted exactly so, like I said,
you know what, I just learnedso much from him because he was
a real dog and I realized allthe years that I was doing
training, that I was reallytrying too hard.
I didn't need to try that hard.
Do you know what I mean?
(11:12):
Because these dogs are amazing.
They're animals, they go on,their instincts are correct.
I was thinking like I trustBuck.
You know what I mean.
He's because he's an animal.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
He knows, do you know what I mean?
So I'd listen to him instead ofalways making him listen to me.
Yes, so when I startedfollowing you and Smiley, you
were you.
He had become a therapy dog andtaking him different places.
What was that experience like?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Oh well, I'll tell you.
So I started learning afterhaving him.
For a while, I'd be walking himaround town and people would
see him walking and they'd lookat him and go, oh, it would
finally get to.
Oh, what's wrong with his eyes?
And I'd say he wasn't, he wasborn without them.
He doesn't have eyes, and theywould just be like, first of all
, they'd say these are grownadults, by the way.
(12:02):
Well, how does he see?
These are grown adults, by theway?
Well, how does he see?
And I'd be like well, hedoesn't.
He actually doesn't, because hedoesn't have any eyes.
And but they would just be likehow is he doing this?
Like they were so confused andso they'd hear this little story
, but then they would just leaveand they'd see him go yes,
smile in his face.
(12:23):
Yeah, he was just so great inthat way.
And then they would just godown to their knees.
What's trying to tell you?
I wanted to come in right.
My mom seems very upset, sopeople would drop to their knees
and just be like, wow, likehe's so loving even though he
has no eyes.
Or he knows where I am, eventhough, or eddie would say, well
, why is he looking up to youreven though he has no eyes?
(12:43):
Or he knows where I am, eventhough, or Dean would say, well,
why is he looking up to yourface if he has no eyes?
I'm like that's where the noiseis coming from.
You know what I mean.
And people started just reallysaying things like wow, I was
having a really bad day todayand this has fixed that.
(13:03):
Or then I'd see people laterand they'd go.
I haven't been able to stopthinking about Smiley and just
how good he does.
And even though he was bornwithout eyes and he had that
horrible start, he's still sohappy and he's so trusting with
other dogs.
When I thought Smiley, he hadscars on his face, tears in his
ears from all these other dogs.
(13:25):
They were all intact and he wasintact.
So there was dog fights andthere wasn't enough food and
there was females in heat.
So there was a lot of fightinggoing on and a lot of those dogs
that we were supposed to put tosleep were terrible injuries
from fights that just didn't gettreated.
So, even though these scarsshowed what kind of life he must
have endured, that didn't stophim from being a lovely golden
(13:48):
retriever.
And so I really just startedthinking, wow, when I started
hearing these things from people.
I need to share this dog.
This dog is inspiring because,as people, if we have a crappy
life, we have a bad childhood orsomething bad happens, we dwell
on it, we use it as an excusesometimes to do what we do.
(14:12):
And you know what?
They're smiling with everyreason to be shut down and sad
and depressed and angry.
And he was just the happiestdog.
So I looked into therapy workand that was just a thing that
was starting as well.
It wasn't so common as it isnow, anyway.
So we went through the testingand he passed with flying colors
(14:34):
.
The examiner was in tearsbecause she just couldn't
believe how good he was, and shesaid she knew right away that
he was just going to be anexceptional therapy dog.
So the first place that theyput us was at a home and it was
a residential home for adultswith severe mental and physical
(14:55):
disabilities, a lot ofdisfigurement, and they had
tried to have therapy dogs inthere before and they failed.
These therapy dogs are amazing,but even they have their limits.
And these therapy dogs areamazing, but even they have
their limits and the therapydogs couldn't deal with it.
Most of the residents don'thave a language.
I mean, they aren't able tospeak.
There's a lot of noises.
There's a lot of loud noisescoming from them.
(15:18):
They look, they appear verydifferent and a lot of strange
hand movement movements.
They're there for a reason andSmiley didn't see that and that
is just right.
Like I said, that was theirfirst therapy dog that worked
out and because he was blind, hedid not judge those people.
Yeah, he didn't react and itwas so beautiful.
(15:41):
It was just amazing.
And it was so beautiful.
It was just amazing.
And what I would?
Because I would watch theirreactions when Smiley would lick
them, even if it's just ontheir hand, lick on their hands,
and sometimes they'd get alittle lick on their face from
him if he could reach there andto see that joy and that glee
and that red face like theywould actually get a little like
(16:03):
blushy red face and could seethe emotion on their face and
what I realized is that most ofthese people they were with
their mom and dad and then theywent from their mom and dad to
this home so, other than theirlove of their parents and their
moms, they'd never had arelationship.
They'd never had a first kissand when smiley licked them I
(16:28):
saw that it was.
They felt love from this animaland like we all know what that
does to us, but seeing it withram, it was magical.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It was life-changing.
Yeah, I mean, to see someoneconnect with an animal is so
powerful, but in a situationlike that, where they probably
don't connect with anyone human,no, getting that, just that
little touch, I'm sure was hugefor them.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It was a it's.
They felt the love and like itwas just amazing.
So, you know, I and and face.
Then Facebook came along and Igot a Facebook page just for
myself.
And I remember hearing peoplepeople would say to me because I
was posting pictures of Smileyand just my friends, and I
remember somebody saying youshould get a Facebook page for
Smiley and I was like no, I'mnot, I'm not one of those people
(17:21):
you're gonna face the face ofmy dog.
But then he started to gain somefollowing and I remember we
were asked to go somewhere and Ithought it was for our first
time to New York City and theyasked Smiley to come and I
remember thinking you know what,maybe I will open it just so I
don't torture my friends anymoreWith Smiley in New York City
(17:43):
that nobody really cares about,even though I find out he
absolutely loved it, likeeverybody else.
But that's when I got smiling aFacebook page and he had become
out there.
So it was Smiley the blindtherapy dog and it just went
from there, like I said, becausepeople hadn't ever heard of
this.
They were really like what.
I remember feeling that way tooand I don't know exactly when,
but I remember without eyes.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I remember feeling that way too.
And I don't remember exactlywhen, but I remember telling my
mom about it.
I'm like you don't understand.
It's a golden retriever with noeyes and he's amazing and all
of these things.
But I think that is the powerof social media and the good
part of it is on the last 15years we've connected with
people that we would have nevermet any way else, and we get to
(18:27):
see a piece of their life andconnect with them.
And you just see Smiley's faceand it makes you happy.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
So you want to come back and learn more and see how
he does things and how hemanages life.
And the other thing isespecially with the kids.
If you remember back, if youwere out with your mom and you
saw somebody that was different,as kids we would want to look
and ask questions, but it wasdon't look, don't ask questions,
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don't point out.
So kids need answers and theyhave questions and that's valid.
And with Smiley meeting kids,they were able to ask questions
and see and touch it and go wow,what do you mean?
Born without eyeballs?
So it was really amazing and Iused to when I would go to the
(19:16):
therapy sessions at this home.
My son was only probably one ortwo to three, basically before
he went to school, and so hewould come with me most of the
time and what a great experiencefor him because he sees all
those people and he never addedan eyelash and he doesn't now
(19:38):
when he sees somebody that'sdifferent, differently abled.
So it was great for him as well.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
That's important because as a child I was in an
assisted living a lot.
We had a family member who wasin one that we helped, and so to
me that's not abnormal, becauseI was six or seven and they
would walk by and say hi, orthey'd come by in their
wheelchair, whatever.
But when people don'texperience that, then it's oh,
(20:05):
why are they different?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, and so exactly.
And it's okay that kids looktwice, want to stare.
You know what I mean.
They're learning, they'reseeing everything.
So it was great for kids aswell.
And that's when we startedgetting into going to the
schools and going to classroomsand talking about Smiley.
Because then Smiley, after acouple of years, we did the
(20:29):
extended testing to make himcertified child therapy dog,
which they make very difficultobviously for obvious reasons.
So he passed that, also withblind colors, so we were able to
go into schools and classroomsand anywhere where there are
kids.
And we did that when we starteddoing the reading program at
the library with the kids.
(20:50):
But going and talking to theclassrooms was probably one of
my favorites because we couldtalk everything from.
We really used Smiley to talkabout the anti-bullying campaign
because Smiley was differentand at that puppy mill those
other dogs were mean to him.
They bit him in the face, theydidn't help him find the food,
(21:10):
they didn't play with him.
But we use these little storiesto make the kids understand
that, hey, they could havehelped smiley find the food or
be nice to him, but they weren't.
They kicked on him, they'd bithim in the face, they wouldn't
play with him and the kids arejust like, and I said, is that
fair?
Is it smiley's fault that hewas born this way, that he
should be picked on, you know?
(21:30):
So, everywhere, from theanti-bullying and just being
born different, because Ibelieve that all children at
some point they realize they aredifferent from all the other
kids, whether it be hair color,height, learning, color whatever
height, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Learning Color.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Whatever Me I was like that I was always the
tallest one, yeah so, like yourealize, oh wow, he can do
everything that another dog cando.
He just can't see when beingborn.
Different overcoming adversity,which we all need to learn how
to do, and different learningtoo.
We would talk about who's goodin math.
(22:06):
Some people find it easy, somepeople find it very hard.
You might this student may haveto work a little harder, but
they're both going to be at thesame place and the same thing,
with smiling walking upstairs,learning to do stairs was very
difficult for him and he wentvery slowly up the stairs, but
he still got to the top and itwas hard for him.
(22:27):
He was scared.
So it's amazing just what wayskids could connect with.
Smiley was quite amazing.
And I know the kids, kids, Isaw it in their faces, those
kids that listened to mypresentation.
I know that they were nevergoing to bully somebody.
They right, I could see it intheir face.
They were like hearing smiley'sstory and they got it.
(22:50):
You know what I mean.
I made sure that they made theconnection.
I'm proud of that.
You know what I mean yeahthat's.
That is one of the I thinkthat's one of the biggest
tragedies going is children wantto end their life because of
bullying and so even adults too,and we exactly every day on
social and it's like, why can'twe just be like smiley?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
yeah, exactly well, smiley is what brought me to
your socials, but you have had,and do have, many other amazing
animals, one who I am actuallyacknowledging, which is Pippi.
I have a nice Smiley Excuse,sure.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That is amazing, yeah , wasn't she and she, what an
amazing dog.
And she was with Smiley for somany dog and she was with Smiley
for so many years and she washis guide dog, she was his
protector and best friend, andit was.
She was such a great girl, sucha motherly dog and she.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
She always seemed like such a amazing dog.
But also just her face.
You're like, oh Pippi, yeah,make me happy looking at you
yeah, yeah, yeah, and we justrecently lost her.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
She was 16.
Same thing with Smiley.
Smiley was almost 16 years oldwhen we lost him, so can't be
sad of that.
And what a life he had.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And same thing with Pippi and so Pippi was a prime
example of you using a dog tohelp your other pets.
I remember seeing when youfirst got buck, who is been
popping in with us.
Hippie did a lot of motheringfor him too, and absolutely so.
You've really managed to, and Iknow you have been a dog
(24:33):
trainer and done all of that.
I love how, on your social, youshow everybody the reality of
dogs interacting and when tostep in and not train dogs.
And for me, having seen so manypeople give up on dogs when
they don't get along withanother dog, is you really work
so hard to make your pack getalong and understand and all of
(24:55):
that?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
and that is just like what I was saying with buck.
I trust him and dogs have apack mentality and, like I said,
things that I learned fromsmiling is just letting the
dog's natural instincts come out, and dogs want to be in a pack.
Dogs want to have a leader.
They're, of course, they'regoing to be a leader in the pack
and using each other and notinterfering all the time, not
(25:17):
micromanaging everybody, and yousee here too, that you're also
watching the interactionsbetween other species like
horses and ducks, and geese.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yes, first of all, I have a little crush on pedro the
donkey.
He seems like such a sweet boy,like just a big dog.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, he is like a big, large puppy, and you see
all these videos about donkeysand them cuddling up.
They're like that.
My horse, which I've had for 20years, he'd be like you got
anything?
Okay, never mind, pedro, itdoesn't matter if you have food
or not.
He wants to be on your lap, hewants affection.
They're so sweet.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I'm so glad we have him.
Well, one of the things I'vealways loved about following you
you're always educating onbehavior and all of that, but
also on caring for your pets andhelping pets when they have
medical issues or when they'reolder, Like with Pippi.
You talk so much about that,which I'm sure has helped so
many people with their pets, andone of the things you talk
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about is using CBDs with yourpets.
Can you talk about what madeyou first decide to try CBD to
help with something with a pet?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'll tell you, back in the day, when Smiley was near
his end and he had liver, hehad a mass on his liver and he
had a mass on his stomach and soit was really just managing him
palliative care, basicallybecause there was nothing we
could do about it.
I remember people were sendingme messages going cbd, get him
on cbd.
I was just like, are youkidding me?
Right him cbd.
But I didn't know what that was.
I just thought of canadas and Iwas like I was just stop
(27:00):
telling me that, like I had somany people saying get him on
cbd and I was just like you'recrazy.
You're crazy, I would never.
And then I, years later, I findthis.
Actually I didn't just randomlyfind it.
I followed this real health andwellness woman and she would
talk about CBD, but still itdidn't tweak me or anything like
(27:21):
that.
But I was starting to slowlylearn about it and the benefits
of it, and I was never one ofthese people, even as a teenager
, that dabbled in cannabis.
I did not do that, so I didn'tknow the benefits of it.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Have any experience with it.
But I also totally get it know.
Early on with cbd, when itbecame more mainstream, most
people didn't know thedifference between that and
actual thc, which is, yeah, theactual drug.
You hear and think, oh my god,you're giving somebody drugs.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Well, yeah, exactly yeah, so like I was just slowly
learning about it.
But then this health andwellness woman.
She decided that most of theCBD that's on the market is
garbage it is.
It's full of glyphosates, it'sfull of mold, heavy metals.
It doesn't work.
You know what I mean.
It should work really well.
(28:12):
This is just a plant.
And so she decided that she wasgoing to do her own CBD line,
and so I was there with herbasically watching her start
this and how she did it andhearing the benefits of it.
And that was in 2020, thespring of 2020.
And Sonny so, after Smiley died,we rescued little Sonny, who
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was born with the same traditionas Smiley.
He was found in Mexico on thestreets, also born without eyes,
and so, anyway, we went and weadopted him.
But when we would bring him upto the cottage and he's a
terrier type of mixed dog whenwe bring him up north here, the
smells of the wild animals,especially in the spring,
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probably most likely was bears.
You know what I mean.
That he was smelling everymorning because they would be
out there.
He was so stressed out, hewanted to flee and he was good,
it wasn't always like that, butthe smells of these animals.
He couldn't cope.
He couldn't go outside.
He was so scared and that's allit was.
(29:17):
It was just the sc, the sense.
So I decided to give it a trywith sunny and I ordered this
new vita and within two days hewas over it.
He was like he could put it,quiets the brain, like his brain
was must be going.
Oh my god, is it right here?
Is it gonna kill me where?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
is it?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
hey, here is, is it?
You know what I mean going,that's what I pictured when poor
sunny's little brain because hedid she could smell it and he
didn't know what that bear wasthere.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
You know what I mean.
Yeah, I mean I'm imaginingmyself in a room that's
completely dark.
I have covering on my eye andthen I can hear smell a bear.
I would be so scared.
I would have no idea if it'sreal or a speaker making that.
So you can just imagine theanxiety and the uncertainty he
would go through.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
And he, coming from the streets of Mexico and many
generations of street dog, hewas very much about survival,
like you can really see it inany of these dogs that come over
from, is it or not years andyears of domestic?
I'm not saying he was feral.
Of these dogs that come overfrom, is there not years and
years of domestic?
I'm not saying he was feral orsomething like that, but it is
surviving.
Yeah, it's a different lightand that's ingrained in them,
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and so he wasn't used to justthe good life.
You know what I mean.
So, like I said, within twodays, he was better and, like I
said, this was during the 2020spring and I also was so
stressed out we didn't rememberthat.
We can all remember how horriblethat was.
I was scared and I was justvery stressed.
(30:48):
I remember losing, losing mypatience and I was just so upset
.
Anyway, I thought and, like Isaid, it was the pet cbd and I
thought, if it did that forSunny, I gave it to Sunny.
I thought I'm taking this.
So I took it and same thingWithin two days.
I was just not saying like Iwas in low land going, you know,
I was just like I'm notsnapping on anybody.
(31:11):
I'm not.
I'm able to sleep, I'm.
My mind isn't going a mile aminute thinking about what the
world is coming to right now,like it instantly calmed me down
, and I was also just startinggoing into menopause at that
time, and so that also probablydidn't tell my anxiety about the
hot flashes my anxiety has beenas bad as since I had a
(31:37):
hysterectomy.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
It's just I'll be like why am I?
Why is that happening?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
yeah, and now I'm learning too is menopause.
This is what happens to women.
It's the anxiety also arthritis, pain that all of a sudden
comes.
There's whole inflammation, allof a bunch of stuff that comes
with that.
Yeah, so my hot flashes all of asudden, when I had never heard
anything about menopause and CBD.
All I knew was I felt betterand I wasn't on edge, I wasn't
(32:05):
snapping at my family.
Sometimes when I think aboutback then it just brings me to
tears because it was such astressful time, anyway.
So then I thought if the petCBD works that good, anyway?
So then I thought if the petCBD works that good, how can I
feel if I get the human formula?
And that's when I started onthat and I never used this
phrase before in my life.
(32:31):
But all I could come up with andnow everybody says it, they say
life-changing and that's theonly way I could describe it
because everything changed onceI started sunny CBD, like, yeah,
my daily life just changed, myparenting changed.
I think my son was probably 10then and just being a mom is
hard, no matter what.
But he was home there's noschool and I was in, they said.
(32:52):
Ever since then I've been abetter mother.
I've been a better mother.
I've been a better dog trainer,a better wife, a better friend.
I slept better, like I.
Just I couldn't believe thatthis was near me.
And now it's been four and ahalf years.
I have not missed a day oftaking this and I've used it on
all my dogs for differentreasons, and Sonny I didn't have
(33:15):
to continue giving it.
I got him through a stressfultime in his life and then he's
fine, and every once in a whilesomething might pop up and I
have to get himself I thinkthat's important because even
for yourself, like I find, ifyou're having a really stressful
day, it's okay to take a littlemore or extra gummy.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Need that, so you use it as well.
Do you know, I do.
I use CBD in different forms,probably for the last 10 or 15
years.
I've had autoimmune issuessince I was in my 20s A lot of
pain, inflammation, fatigue.
I've had issues with my mouth, Ihad a lot of pain there and
stuff, and it just I don't.
(33:54):
It's like in a way like a cloud, like you don't.
It's like in a way like a cloud, like you don't feel all the
tension and stress in your body,but also in your mind, like you
said it just you're not out ofit.
Yeah, yeah, why it's all the?
Why am I not doing this?
I need to do that.
I didn't do this, I missed that.
Why?
It just puts that away so youcan focus.
(34:14):
And that's been reallyimportant for me because
definitely, my anxiety has beenworse since 2020 with COVID so
(34:34):
many of us but as a and one ofthe biggest things for me
besides the anxiety has beensleep, because sleep is hard.
If I get too tired, I can'tsleep.
If I'm in anywhere, I can'tsleep.
If I'm anxious, I can't sleep,and so I use Navita's, the CBN
gummies, now at night, and ithelped me so much to get to
(35:00):
sleep because that was always mybiggest issue to get and see.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
It just quiets your mind so you can fall asleep
instead of going off in youryeah like kids, just start
coming to you as soon as yourhead hits the pillow and I hear
that from so many women say thesame thing and and that's what I
also then look at these dogs.
So all these years I've beentrying to help families with
(35:25):
their dogs.
I've been doing private dogtraining for 15 years, but
before that I was teachingclasses constantly, but so I've
always been trying to helppeople with their dogs.
I'm obviously an advocate forrescue and adoption and the
thing is, if I can help a familywith their dog, that's going to
keep them from being such a cowthey're giving up.
(35:47):
So this just was just so inline.
If you're not a dog trainer ora behaviorist, there's a lot of
dog issues that people reallystruggle with, and dogs are
struggling and your typicalperson can't deal with that.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I can say for me, having worked and volunteered in
the shelter for a little while,one of the biggest issues we
saw in the shelter dogs not onlygetting adopted but getting
returned was the separationanxiety exactly they'd be in a
new environment, a new home.
They weren't used to theschedule or what was happening.
The people would leave and theywould just be like I'm alone
(36:27):
again yeah, and then they'd belike, oh, I can't deal with this
dog.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
They didn't even give the dog a chance, but that must
be so stressful, you knowstarting a new life and who
knows what their life was beforethe shelter.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Like you said, like sunny, we had dogs on the street
.
People dump them on the streetout in the middle of orchards
here.
The overpopulation crisis whereI live in california is awful
and dogs we had two shelterswhere I lived that unfortunately
euthanize every week, sometimesevery day, because our breeding
laws aren't great and so manyother issues.
(37:02):
It's a snowball at this pointover the last few years.
But being in there and seeingamazing dogs get adopted and
then returned because, well,they tore up a blanket or they
pulled down my blinds or theydidn't get along, I'm like vines
or they didn't get along.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I'm like it's been two days.
Of course they didn't, wouldyou exactly exactly?
And so people want to seesomething quickly and I'll say I
really push, push people, butI'm always suggesting going.
If you are trying to introducea new dog into your house,
please try this.
It's going to make it a loteasier on the dog and a lot
easier on you, and even givingit to an existing dog in the
(37:43):
house if you're trying to bringanother dog or a cat in, there's
so many reasons to use it.
That's why I suggest to peopleI'm like, if you have a pet, get
a bottle.
There's a little tiny bottlehere.
This might be like I think thisis about $20.
Yeah, to have it in your toolkit, in your medicine kit for your
dog, because if all of a suddenyou have contractors in your
(38:05):
house drilling up a floor orsomething that's going to be
stressful for your dog, boom,you have this for them.
Right?
And injury I'm always thinkingof that too.
If your dog has a major injuryand you've got to do baby
changes or clean out ears, thisis going to make this a lot
smoother for both of you.
Vet visits so working in a vethospital for 30 years.
(38:27):
Oh, my goodness, I used to hateseeing these dogs come in
petrified, shaking like a leafso stressed, just for a simple
vet visit.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
My cats all get so terrified.
I just took Charlie to the vet.
He pees in the carrier.
His eyes are like this bigthey're drooling.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
They're panting.
Cats especially.
They are so sensitive to anytype of change and stress and it
can really throw them off.
A cat can get sick from just alittle bit of anxiety because
they stop eating.
Cats cannot stop eating.
Their body starts feeding ontheir own liver.
So cats can't go off food.
(39:09):
Dogs are people.
We can go, we can, we can.
We'll just get skinny after aweek.
You know what I mean.
Really, like cats cannot gowithout eating.
So and cats cannot go withouteating.
And cats are so sensitive tothe benefits.
We've used it on Rusty a fewtimes and I was amazed how
little it took.
It just made a happy cat.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
And there's nothing better If you need to clip their
nails or take them somewhere.
I mean like moving.
I remember when we moved in ourhouse it was so stressful.
They hid in the closet for twodays.
That's horrible, I need a gameto that.
Yeah, so, beyond anxiety andthings like that, you have
talked about a lot about how youuse it with pets when they have
(39:50):
medical issues or when they getolder, like with Pippi.
So how have you used the petCBD in that way?
So how have you used the petCBD in that way?
So Pippi.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
She ended up with a heart condition, probably when
she was, I guess, 14, 13, 14.
And so and she was on rightaround that time we started
noticing she was doing somethings.
So at nighttime she was uppacing.
We could hear her lateThroughout the night.
We'd be like she was up pacingand then randomly there'd be
(40:19):
these weird barks from her.
She was pooping on the floor inthe night and what we realized
is this is basically doggyAlzheimer's.
It usually comes up atnighttime.
They're confused, that's sothey get the pacing.
So then they don't sleep atnight and then their days are
crappy, just like us.
You know what I?
So then they don't sleep atnight and then their days are
crappy, just like us.
You know what I mean.
You don't sleep, well, you'regonna have a crappy day, and so
(40:41):
we.
So that was the first reason Istarted giving.
I used it in pippi forstressful things vet visits,
grooming, whatever.
But then I decided I'm gonnagive it to her on a daily, twice
a day, and within the firstdose that I gave that night she
slept soundly, and this I hearfrom so many people.
(41:02):
Now they're using it for this.
If your dog lives to a good agethey are probably going to show
signs of this dementia doggydementia and it usually comes
out as in the night it's usuallythings and then they start to
not recognize you, there'sthings like that.
But the first night I gave itto Pippi she slept soundly, and
(41:22):
then the next day she obviouslylooked so great because she had
a good sleep.
So that just solved that rightaway and so I just kept giving
it to her at nighttime.
But then she started showingsigns of arthritis.
I mean, she's been a veryactive dog and she would be
limping different times, or shewould just jump up into the back
of the truck and then she'd belimping just from a jump and
(41:43):
slow to get up.
And so we ended up getting heron MediCam from the vet.
But then I so then I was givingit to her every day for her
doggy dementia and I would onlygive the Mediam if I saw her.
I tried not to give it everyday because I didn't want her to
have this every day.
It's very hard on the liver andso I would watch to see what's
(42:05):
usually was maybe every threedays, depending on what she did
and so I started realizing thatI wasn't needing to give her the
medicam Days, would go by andbe like she not working, she's
not living, and again you canread all you want, but until you
start seeing it for yourself,and then I would actually read
up and go, and then it was likeit's, it works as an
inflammatory right yeah.
(42:27):
And now I was like, is thisreally happening?
Like usually if a dog goes onmedicam they do not come off,
they just end up getting it moreand more.
So I realized that she wasn'tneeding the Medicam at all.
Sometimes I would just go okay,this is so weird, I haven't
given it to her in a week, so Iwould just give it to her,
thinking she must need it.
And then finally it was.
(42:47):
She never got it, ever again.
I remember half a bottle ofMedicam that sat in her little
medicine box for two years andI'd look at this and go, I
didn't show people the date, Iwas showing people that this
bottle was two years old.
I don't use it anymore.
She's getting everything sheneeds from the medicam.
And then she ended up with astroke episode and she couldn't
(43:12):
stand up.
She was did you watch all that?
Yeah like she was in a harness.
We had to hold her up, wethought this is the end of her
and then with that it's almostlike a vertigo.
It was very odd, and then theydidn't want to eat Anyway.
So then I started getting it toher in the morning, during the
day, because before I was justonly giving it at night.
And this heart condition thatshe had, they say usually they
(43:38):
will live like four to sixmonths with it on medication and
we had put her on the heartmeds and two and a half years I
think she made it and I trulybelieve it was from the CBD, the
Nuvega, which is, if you readabout CBD and heart conditions,
it strengthens the heart.
It lowers blood pressurenaturally.
(44:00):
Naturally that's one of theonly they will talk about like a
side effect of it is, yes, itlowers blood pressure.
You know what I mean.
That's right.
That's why you don't feel likeyou're gonna rip somebody's head
off.
Yeah, exactly so with all that,her heart just kept going and
until just no more sorry, and Iknow it kept her happy, because
(44:22):
I'm sure it's very weird for adog to start feeling different
right, so it just benefited,benefited her in so many ways.
It kept her.
A lot of dogs we lose dogsbecause they go.
They lose their appetite, right, for whatever reasons.
And this cbd, what they say is,it creates a homeostasis in the
(44:43):
body, whether it's me or yourdog, which is balanced.
So homeostasis, balance, andthat's why it affects each dog
differently and every persondifferently.
It knows whether you need toincrease your appetite, right,
because some people it curbs theappetite.
Right, because some people itcurbs the appetite Right and
some people it increases theappetite.
They use it.
There's all kinds of examplesof using it in cancer patients
(45:07):
to keep their appetite up.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Great, because there was always that thing years ago.
Well, smoke a little weed andit'll help your appetite.
Well, you don't have to do that.
There's actually CBD you canuse and, instead of being one, a
little thc.
You can get those too.
And that's what's great.
Because of following you andtaking it myself, I've become an
affiliate for new vita, justlike you have nice.
(45:32):
So what made you decide thatyou wanted to become an
affiliate?
Speaker 2 (45:37):
because I was going to be.
I was sharing this anyway, youknow what I mean.
I wanted to tell the worldabout this for people, for
themselves and for their pets,because a lot of the products on
the market really have gotten abad name because it's so bad,
it's such garbage.
Especially in the US, I seethat they sell it on every
counter, like they sell on gasstations, like it's everywhere
(46:00):
you can get it in all sorts ofplaces.
It's the dollar store.
That's what I hear.
Like you can get it at thedollar store.
So would I buy my vitamins froma dollar store?
No, never.
Where it's come from is veryquestionable, and they sell it
to every other company you knowwhat I mean Like a lot of the
(46:25):
cbd companies that are out thereyou'll see, it'll be like we're
all these cbd, it's not.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
They don't.
They just slap a label on it.
You know what I mean?
They don't know where it's comefrom.
I've taken other brands andversions and they don't all work
like nubita does.
For sure you can tell that it'squality and they know what
they're doing.
And what I love now is they'reoffering different detox
products, which is actuallythat's what got me to sign up as
an affiliate, because I usethose detox, especially the
(46:47):
digestive one.
I've had I had an ulcer at fiveyears old.
I've always had issues.
I've been labeled irritablebowel syndrome, all that stuff,
and I have to say I was soregular and not having points
where I'm like, oh my God, I gotto get to a bathroom Watching
you take it and hearing thebenefits you and other people in
(47:09):
your family have had.
I tried it and it really worked.
So I became an affiliate forthe podcast so that all of the
listeners can get it tothemselves and their pets.
And one thing I wanted to sayabout pets formula specifically
before we end our conversation.
I'm sure we could talk foranother couple hours about it.
(47:31):
I'll have to come back.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
I'll have to come back.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
We're gonna come, but maybe we have you come back and
do a q a and we'll haveeverybody questions.
I did want to tell the peoplewho have other pets.
Let them know that you've usedit on all different types of
animals.
I remember you using it on yourduck to help his.
You can talk briefly a littlebit how you've used it with
animals outside of dogs.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, I will say all animals have an endocannabinoid
system in their body.
We have receptors waiting forthis, we have them in our skin,
we have them in our stomach andwe have them in our brain.
And that's where you get allthese benefits, whether it's gut
issues, mental and also topical.
(48:12):
So I use it on and I don't.
Do you remember when Buck hiswhole oh yeah, loft off?
He had some reaction tosomething, his whole entire
muzzle sloughed off into a scab,his ear tips, his scrotum.
It was horrible.
Well, you can't put cream on adog's face, some kind of cream,
(48:33):
because they're going to lick itoff.
You know what I mean, yeah, soI love that.
You know what I mean.
So they can take it in bothways.
So I could put it close to hiseyes, all down his lips, and I,
because I remember thinkinggoing, wow, he was so handsome,
if you remember when he was apuppy, and this was before he
was a year and then all of asudden his whole face went into
a scab that looked like acid hadbeen put on him, and I remember
(48:56):
thinking, well, he was the mosthandsome dog I'd ever seen.
And he's not that hair.
There's no way his hair isgoing to grow back.
Anyway, you know like it allgrew back and I believe it's
from that.
So I use it on any kind of skinirritation and wound on myself
and the dogs, because dogs arealways going to lick it up, so
it's safe.
But this duck that we rescuedhe had a hole like this big
(49:21):
under his wing.
It was a hole.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
I could have put my fist in it.
It was pretty.
You could tell even on videoand photo.
It was so deep.
It was like someone took achunk out of him.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
I have no idea still what that was from, I have no
idea, and how he just got foundon the side of a road and
somebody just picked him up andthen ended up here.
But same thing, ducks preyingthemselves and anyway.
So, using it topically and,like I said, it was a gaping
hole.
What do you put in that?
So I was just putting the CBDon it every single day and I
(49:53):
still thought he's not gonna.
He may not make it like this isthis is bad?
Like how is this?
Speaker 1 (50:09):
you can see right there, you wouldn't even know
anything exactly wrong, so Icannot believe he made it and
healed perfectly.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Can issue my son on Lima.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
I have the.
I just got this, the roller,and, oh my gosh, I use it.
I literally keep it in myoffice because I start getting
that in my neck from being likethis and I start feeling it.
I'm like get the roller.
Is it not the best smell ever?
(50:44):
It's so easy, because thenyou're getting messy and you can
rub it wherever you need it togo.
Even.
Is it not like magic?
It's magic.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I don't tell people how good it works, but then I
will always get a message goingare you kidding me?
Right?
And I did it.
Yeah, like it's instant.
And that to show you, we havereceptors taking this in right
and it works like it's right.
But everybody's holy god.
That's math, that's the magic,what?
Speaker 1 (51:14):
and I was thinking I know why people question it.
Because you have all thisamazing stuff that could happen.
It's for you, it's going to dothis for you.
Then they get it and it's great.
It is magic, it is.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
And this is where you become an affiliate, because
it's something that you canstand behind.
Right, I don't get messageswhere it didn't work for me.
You know what I mean.
I don't want to deal with thatbecause you get messages that
say, yeah, I wish I'd listen toyou sooner.
Oh my gosh, did you see that?
I actually shared that becausethey were like, oh, it's so
(51:47):
funny and that's all like,that's why I keep talking about
it.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
So I will be putting all this info, the link to new
vita and you can use my codejulie 10 for 10 off.
And it's not your first order,or so much.
You have to pay any amountevery order.
Keep getting it.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Trust me, once you start, you won't stop the point
of an affiliate to you is thatthey have you to come to to ask
a question and even if you don'tknow the answer, you can go to
Nubida.
You can come to me and you canfind the answer for them.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
And I love that NuVita has.
Every week they have like atraining session for affiliates.
Learn about products, you canask questions and I've learned
so much from you, not only totake it, but you're always
sharing what you're learning andwhat people are saying, and it
helps.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
I always share the reviews of when people send me a
message.
I love that there's like I said, that's my thing, like I loved.
Usually I'm just helpingfamilies with their pets, but,
oh my gosh, I'm one of thosewomen helping other women and I
love seeing.
I just I'm a helper.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
I don't think I'm also going to have you on my
other podcast, which is allabout empowering women to tell
their stories other podcastwhich is all about empowering
women to tell their stories, andso I would love for us to talk
on that podcast about ourpersonal experience with cbd and
how it tells us, especially aswomen in our 40s and 50s.
Yeah, because we don't talkabout it and we need that
support.
Yeah, but wives are stressfulright now.
(53:15):
Life is stressful right now.
Not stopping.
It's always something.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah, and you know what, and what a lot of people
say too, is that, instead ofgoing to a bottle of wine that's
what I love too you know what?
Instead of going to a bottle ofwine, have a CBD drink.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
And I started using the Chill Berry, which is the
CBD, with a little, just alittle bit, of tea, and I don't
really drink my husband's'ssober, so we don't drink, and I
would say at night it does.
Oh, it's that nice, but what Ilove, which is that I don't feel
hung over the next morning Ialways did with alcohol and so
(53:53):
it's there's no harm to yourbody, it's good for you, it's
all plant-based and you're gonnafeel good the next day, which
is like what we all needabsolutely I'm so glad that,
like I said when we first got onhere, I've been following you
for so long.
I feel like I know you, like youlive next door, but I've never
met you live thousands of milesaway, yeah, but I love watching
(54:18):
you and your family and I just Ifeel like I can't wait to visit
Sunny Acres one day and meetall the horses and all the ducks
and everybody, and the dogsespecially.
But if he's here, I want him toknow he's the most important
and for sure we will be doing alive or coming back here
(54:39):
recording another episode.
Anybody has questions aboutwhat we've talked about in terms
of the CBD and helping yourpets or helping yourself.
Please feel free to comment onsocial or email me or whatever
works for you, because I wouldlove to come back and talk more
about it and answer the people'squestions.
So just thank you for beinghere.
(54:59):
I'm so enjoy getting to talk toyou face to face and thank you
for introducing me to nubita.
I'm super excited to beinvolved with that now and I
can't wait for us to just keepsharing and helping other people
.
Absolutely.
Thank you, my friend and fellowanimal, for being here with us
(55:20):
today and listening to thisepisode.
I really hope you enjoyed myconversation with Joanne and
that you enjoyed all the storiesabout her amazing animals and
her fur family and also learningabout the benefits of using CBD
with your pets and yourself.
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Thank you for listening andmuch love to you and your pets.
Hello, my friends and fellow animal lovers, welcome
to a brand new episode of theStory of my Pet podcast.
I am your host, julie MartyPearson.
As always, proud fur mom andall around animal advocate.
I'm so happy to have you herefor another inspiring pet story.
(00:29):
I can't wait for you to meet myguest, joanne, and hear all
about her amazing fur family andall of the experience she has
had from being a vet tech to adog trainer, to a proud fur mom
and helping animals in needwherever she can.
I hope you enjoy the stories weare about to tell.
(00:52):
Thank you again for being here.
Much love to.
I am so excited you have noidea to welcome a new guest to
(01:13):
the story of my pet I have withme today, joanne George.
Joanne, thank you so much forbeing here.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Thank you for inviting me, but I know it's not
just, it's not me that you'reexcited about, it's this guy.
You know.
Take it Well.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I mean I can say, oh Buck, Hi Buck, oh, my God,
everybody loves Buck.
Yes, everybody loves him, sucha good boy.
That's why, oh, I have beenfollowing Joanne I don't even
know how long for years andyears, way back to when the
(01:49):
focus of your social was yourdog Smiley and everything you
did with him.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, let's go backwards a little bit and have
you.
You can tell us a little bitabout yourself, where you're
coming from, for sure, and whenyou started being on social and
sharing your pets with everyone.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Okay, so I'm in Ontario, canada, and way back
when I was a veterinarytechnician and ask any
veterinary technician we end uptaking home a lot of pets and
finding homes for animals thatare basically being dumped or
something wrong with them.
So we always end up takingsomething home that's injured or
(02:29):
lost, orphaned, abandoned, allthose things.
And keep in mind this is wayback in the day, before this
makes me sound really old butbefore the internet, really
Smiley came to me.
Before we didn't have internet,we didn't have any social
medias, there was no Instagram,no, nothing.
Anyway, we got wind of this dogthat was a golden retriever,
(02:54):
that was born without eyes.
And so I say that there was nointernet because that's very
important, because we heard thisand we had never heard of a dog
being born without eyes.
But back then if it wasn't yourneighbor or a friend, you didn't
hear about it unless it was inthe newspaper or something like
that.
So we had never heard about adog being born without eyes.
(03:16):
And also, back then that was inthe days where vets would
euthanize a dog with that kindof disability, so that didn't
happen.
You know what I mean.
There weren't dogs like thereis now, like dogs with
wheelchairs and all thesedisabilities that people are
(03:36):
realizing.
Dogs can live like that.
So there just really wasn't.
We had never heard of somethinglike this.
Because, as a puppy, if abreeder or whoever it was, wow,
this puppy doesn't have eyes andit's now six weeks, then that
would say you put it down, andpeople would.
That's not the case now,thankfully, because we're
hearing more, we're able toinvestigate things, we're able
(03:59):
to explore other people with thesame issue.
So anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
No, I think that is so important because it's so
funny, as you were saying thatI'm thinking of multiple animal
accounts I follow now, blind,deaf, no eyes.
I have no legs, no arms.
I follow one farm that justtook on a calf that was born
with no eyes.
Yeah, like it's very common.
Yes, learning about this, I'llcall it a birth defect because
(04:23):
it is was born with no eyes.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, Like it's very common.
Yes, Learning about this, I'llcall it a birth defect because
it is.
They called it severemicro-ophthalmia, so severe
because really there was no eyes, but micro meaning eye, or
ophthalmia.
Micro meaning small, sorry,micro-ophthalmia, so really
small eyes.
So there's different degrees.
But Smiley had no eyeballs atall.
(04:45):
But I recall when I was inschool there was a girl that had
very small eyes, Her eyeballswere very small and she was
technically blind.
But anyway, so it happens inpeople as well and in all
animals.
Now I've seen it'smicrocephalmia in, I think,
every species of animal.
So, and actually in Smiley thereason we've heard about him is
(05:08):
because they were asking us tocome to this puppy mill to put
him down and the STCA had goneinto this puppy mill, found out
about it and there was a lot ofneglect and it was basically
like it was a puppy mill, whichmeans they are unable to care
for the dogs that they have.
At one point it was a topbreeder of golden retrievers,
(05:28):
but then it got away from her.
I'm gonna keep this one.
This one didn't sell might wantto breed.
That one fell in love with thatone and next thing there's 100
breeding dogs and about 50puppies on the ground.
So anyway, the long, the shortpart of the story is that we
were as a veterinary technician.
We were going to go there andeuthanize.
(05:50):
There was about 20 goldens thatthe SPCA deemed needed
veterinary care and her, theowner, as the owner of these
dogs, because dogs are property,she decided that she was just
going to euthanize this list of20 dogs and because dogs are
property, she has every right todo that.
(06:11):
But I was like I'm not going.
I'm not coming to hold down 20dogs and watch them be
euthanized.
I said I'm not going and thenwe all decided what if we went?
What if we put smiles on ourfaces and asked her for these
dogs?
Would she give us these dogsInstead of we go there?
Do you know what I mean?
(06:31):
Try to keep a calm level andask her.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
It makes a difference .
I've done it myself.
The way you ask people, youwant to be angry with them.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, exactly yeah, it's not going to help.
So we just thought, let's tryit, and we prepared, and we
brought trucks, we borrowedtrucks and crates, and and she
agreed, and so we took, andsmiley was one of them, and the
sbc even deemed him no qualityof life and suffering.
So basically, so basically,smiley would have been born in
(07:03):
2005.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Okay, okay so probably 15, 20 years ago.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, exactly.
So it's just amazing that backthen, only 10, 15 years ago,
they weren't even recognizingthat, hey, dogs can live, even
though there's people blind.
They hadn't recognized thatdogs could live a good quality
of life, even though they wereborn without eyes.
And anyway, we were dividingthe dogs up between a couple of
(07:32):
the girls that went, the othertechnicians, and they were all
saying, joanne, you have to takethe blind dog.
And I was like I've got a crazygreat dane at home.
He was a rescue also that wasgoing to be put to sleep.
He, he was an albino Great Dane.
He was deaf in one ear and dogsdid not like him.
He was scary to look at.
He was drooling in eyes down tohere and big and white, and you
(07:54):
know these blue, red eyes.
So I was like he's going to befreaked out if he comes to my
house.
He can't come.
And they were like you musttake him.
You're the one into dogbehavior, you take him.
And I was like, okay, and Itook him and that was my first
lesson on this.
Is that finally?
This is what I came to realizethat a blind dog does.
(08:18):
They don't judge.
All the dogs in my neighborhoodjudged this great Dane and went
scary ugly I don't know.
They did not like him.
And this was my Great Dane.
His name was Tyler.
This was his first friend.
Smiley was his first friendbecause no dogs and people even
saw him and crossed the road.
So that was my first littlelesson.
(08:40):
Wow, he sees with his heart andTyler was a very friendly dog
and Smiley knew that because hesensed that even though it was
really excitable, that was, itwas harmless and it was friendly
and excitable and anyway theywere like the best of friends
and and I wasn't going to keephim, I was just trying to find
(09:01):
him a home.
And that's the other thing is,everybody came to see him.
He even went out on a trial andeverybody was just like it was
too hard.
No, I couldn't have a blind dog.
We go camping.
I'm like, okay, oh, and thisperson, they have a cottage so
they wouldn't be able to have ablind dog there.
We like to do all theseactivities, we want to have
(09:22):
children, so I could never havea blind dog and I'm like you
can't have a blind dog with allthese things.
So I was actually listening toall this and really by default,
is why he stayed with me becausenobody would take him and I had
people coming in.
I found homes for all theseother golden retrievers.
No issues, it's a goldenretriever, everybody loves them
(09:42):
and I had one right up.
They're the best dogs the bestdogs, exactly like you can't go
wrong.
And really just listening toeverybody about blind dogs, I
was thinking, wow, I didn'trealize it was going to be so
difficult and right.
So then he ended up staying andhe taught me everything how I
train dogs.
(10:02):
Now I learned from Smileybecause he first of all, he was
in the puppy mill for the firsttwo years of his life, just with
a ton of other dogs loose.
But he was very natural.
He used his nose, he used hisears and he didn't judge with
his eyes.
Eyes get us into trouble, Evenus.
(10:22):
We judge the stereotyping, thatkind of thing.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And Smiley didn't do that.
That's amazing.
I love that so much.
Yeah, because when I havevolunteered to work in the
shelter with rescues, peoplejudge right away by looking at a
dog.
I don't know how many timesI've had to say to people it's
not the breed, it's theindividual dog.
Every dog's temperament isdifferent.
(10:50):
Every about the dog, yeah, andit's the breed specific stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yes, there are characteristics that are most
common but that, just likepeople, it doesn't define who
they are before they've evenstarted exactly so, like I said,
you know what, I just learnedso much from him because he was
a real dog and I realized allthe years that I was doing
training, that I was reallytrying too hard.
I didn't need to try that hard.
Do you know what I mean?
(11:12):
Because these dogs are amazing.
They're animals, they go on,their instincts are correct.
I was thinking like I trustBuck.
You know what I mean.
He's because he's an animal.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
He knows, do you know what I mean?
So I'd listen to him instead ofalways making him listen to me.
Yes, so when I startedfollowing you and Smiley, you
were you.
He had become a therapy dog andtaking him different places.
What was that experience like?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Oh well, I'll tell you.
So I started learning afterhaving him.
For a while, I'd be walking himaround town and people would
see him walking and they'd lookat him and go, oh, it would
finally get to.
Oh, what's wrong with his eyes?
And I'd say he wasn't, he wasborn without them.
He doesn't have eyes, and theywould just be like, first of all
, they'd say these are grownadults, by the way.
(12:02):
Well, how does he see?
These are grown adults, by theway?
Well, how does he see?
And I'd be like well, hedoesn't.
He actually doesn't, because hedoesn't have any eyes.
And but they would just be likehow is he doing this?
Like they were so confused andso they'd hear this little story
, but then they would just leaveand they'd see him go yes,
smile in his face.
(12:23):
Yeah, he was just so great inthat way.
And then they would just godown to their knees.
What's trying to tell you?
I wanted to come in right.
My mom seems very upset, sopeople would drop to their knees
and just be like, wow, likehe's so loving even though he
has no eyes.
Or he knows where I am, eventhough, or eddie would say, well
, why is he looking up to youreven though he has no eyes?
(12:43):
Or he knows where I am, eventhough, or Dean would say, well,
why is he looking up to yourface if he has no eyes?
I'm like that's where the noiseis coming from.
You know what I mean.
And people started just reallysaying things like wow, I was
having a really bad day todayand this has fixed that.
(13:03):
Or then I'd see people laterand they'd go.
I haven't been able to stopthinking about Smiley and just
how good he does.
And even though he was bornwithout eyes and he had that
horrible start, he's still sohappy and he's so trusting with
other dogs.
When I thought Smiley, he hadscars on his face, tears in his
ears from all these other dogs.
(13:25):
They were all intact and he wasintact.
So there was dog fights andthere wasn't enough food and
there was females in heat.
So there was a lot of fightinggoing on and a lot of those dogs
that we were supposed to put tosleep were terrible injuries
from fights that just didn't gettreated.
So, even though these scarsshowed what kind of life he must
have endured, that didn't stophim from being a lovely golden
(13:48):
retriever.
And so I really just startedthinking, wow, when I started
hearing these things from people.
I need to share this dog.
This dog is inspiring because,as people, if we have a crappy
life, we have a bad childhood orsomething bad happens, we dwell
on it, we use it as an excusesometimes to do what we do.
(14:12):
And you know what?
They're smiling with everyreason to be shut down and sad
and depressed and angry.
And he was just the happiestdog.
So I looked into therapy workand that was just a thing that
was starting as well.
It wasn't so common as it isnow, anyway.
So we went through the testingand he passed with flying colors
(14:34):
.
The examiner was in tearsbecause she just couldn't
believe how good he was, and shesaid she knew right away that
he was just going to be anexceptional therapy dog.
So the first place that theyput us was at a home and it was
a residential home for adultswith severe mental and physical
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disabilities, a lot ofdisfigurement, and they had
tried to have therapy dogs inthere before and they failed.
These therapy dogs are amazing,but even they have their limits.
And these therapy dogs areamazing, but even they have
their limits and the therapydogs couldn't deal with it.
Most of the residents don'thave a language.
I mean, they aren't able tospeak.
There's a lot of noises.
There's a lot of loud noisescoming from them.
(15:18):
They look, they appear verydifferent and a lot of strange
hand movement movements.
They're there for a reason andSmiley didn't see that and that
is just right.
Like I said, that was theirfirst therapy dog that worked
out and because he was blind, hedid not judge those people.
Yeah, he didn't react and itwas so beautiful.
(15:41):
It was just amazing.
And it was so beautiful.
It was just amazing.
And what I would?
Because I would watch theirreactions when Smiley would lick
them, even if it's just ontheir hand, lick on their hands,
and sometimes they'd get alittle lick on their face from
him if he could reach there andto see that joy and that glee
and that red face like theywould actually get a little like
(16:03):
blushy red face and could seethe emotion on their face and
what I realized is that most ofthese people they were with
their mom and dad and then theywent from their mom and dad to
this home so, other than theirlove of their parents and their
moms, they'd never had arelationship.
They'd never had a first kissand when smiley licked them I
(16:28):
saw that it was.
They felt love from this animaland like we all know what that
does to us, but seeing it withram, it was magical.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
It was life-changing.
Yeah, I mean, to see someoneconnect with an animal is so
powerful, but in a situationlike that, where they probably
don't connect with anyone human,no, getting that, just that
little touch, I'm sure was hugefor them.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It was a it's.
They felt the love and like itwas just amazing.
So, you know, I and and face.
Then Facebook came along and Igot a Facebook page just for
myself.
And I remember hearing peoplepeople would say to me because I
was posting pictures of Smileyand just my friends, and I
remember somebody saying youshould get a Facebook page for
Smiley and I was like no, I'mnot, I'm not one of those people
(17:21):
you're gonna face the face ofmy dog.
But then he started to gain somefollowing and I remember we
were asked to go somewhere and Ithought it was for our first
time to New York City and theyasked Smiley to come and I
remember thinking you know what,maybe I will open it just so I
don't torture my friends anymoreWith Smiley in New York City
(17:43):
that nobody really cares about,even though I find out he
absolutely loved it, likeeverybody else.
But that's when I got smiling aFacebook page and he had become
out there.
So it was Smiley the blindtherapy dog and it just went
from there, like I said, becausepeople hadn't ever heard of
this.
They were really like what.
I remember feeling that way tooand I don't know exactly when,
but I remember without eyes.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I remember feeling that way too.
And I don't remember exactlywhen, but I remember telling my
mom about it.
I'm like you don't understand.
It's a golden retriever with noeyes and he's amazing and all
of these things.
But I think that is the powerof social media and the good
part of it is on the last 15years we've connected with
people that we would have nevermet any way else, and we get to
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see a piece of their life andconnect with them.
And you just see Smiley's faceand it makes you happy.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
So you want to come back and learn more and see how
he does things and how hemanages life.
And the other thing isespecially with the kids.
If you remember back, if youwere out with your mom and you
saw somebody that was different,as kids we would want to look
and ask questions, but it wasdon't look, don't ask questions,
(18:54):
don't point out.
So kids need answers and theyhave questions and that's valid.
And with Smiley meeting kids,they were able to ask questions
and see and touch it and go wow,what do you mean?
Born without eyeballs?
So it was really amazing and Iused to when I would go to the
(19:16):
therapy sessions at this home.
My son was only probably one ortwo to three, basically before
he went to school, and so hewould come with me most of the
time and what a great experiencefor him because he sees all
those people and he never addedan eyelash and he doesn't now
(19:38):
when he sees somebody that'sdifferent, differently abled.
So it was great for him as well.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
That's important because as a child I was in an
assisted living a lot.
We had a family member who wasin one that we helped, and so to
me that's not abnormal, becauseI was six or seven and they
would walk by and say hi, orthey'd come by in their
wheelchair, whatever.
But when people don'texperience that, then it's oh,
(20:05):
why are they different?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, and so exactly.
And it's okay that kids looktwice, want to stare.
You know what I mean.
They're learning, they'reseeing everything.
So it was great for kids aswell.
And that's when we startedgetting into going to the
schools and going to classroomsand talking about Smiley.
Because then Smiley, after acouple of years, we did the
(20:29):
extended testing to make himcertified child therapy dog,
which they make very difficultobviously for obvious reasons.
So he passed that, also withblind colors, so we were able to
go into schools and classroomsand anywhere where there are
kids.
And we did that when we starteddoing the reading program at
the library with the kids.
(20:50):
But going and talking to theclassrooms was probably one of
my favorites because we couldtalk everything from.
We really used Smiley to talkabout the anti-bullying campaign
because Smiley was differentand at that puppy mill those
other dogs were mean to him.
They bit him in the face, theydidn't help him find the food,
(21:10):
they didn't play with him.
But we use these little storiesto make the kids understand
that, hey, they could havehelped smiley find the food or
be nice to him, but they weren't.
They kicked on him, they'd bithim in the face, they wouldn't
play with him and the kids arejust like, and I said, is that
fair?
Is it smiley's fault that hewas born this way, that he
should be picked on, you know?
(21:30):
So, everywhere, from theanti-bullying and just being
born different, because Ibelieve that all children at
some point they realize they aredifferent from all the other
kids, whether it be hair color,height, learning, color whatever
height, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Learning Color.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Whatever Me I was like that I was always the
tallest one, yeah so, like yourealize, oh wow, he can do
everything that another dog cando.
He just can't see when beingborn.
Different overcoming adversity,which we all need to learn how
to do, and different learningtoo.
We would talk about who's goodin math.
(22:06):
Some people find it easy, somepeople find it very hard.
You might this student may haveto work a little harder, but
they're both going to be at thesame place and the same thing,
with smiling walking upstairs,learning to do stairs was very
difficult for him and he wentvery slowly up the stairs, but
he still got to the top and itwas hard for him.
(22:27):
He was scared.
So it's amazing just what wayskids could connect with.
Smiley was quite amazing.
And I know the kids, kids, Isaw it in their faces, those
kids that listened to mypresentation.
I know that they were nevergoing to bully somebody.
They right, I could see it intheir face.
They were like hearing smiley'sstory and they got it.
(22:50):
You know what I mean.
I made sure that they made theconnection.
I'm proud of that.
You know what I mean yeahthat's.
That is one of the I thinkthat's one of the biggest
tragedies going is children wantto end their life because of
bullying and so even adults too,and we exactly every day on
social and it's like, why can'twe just be like smiley?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
yeah, exactly well, smiley is what brought me to
your socials, but you have had,and do have, many other amazing
animals, one who I am actuallyacknowledging, which is Pippi.
I have a nice Smiley Excuse,sure.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That is amazing, yeah , wasn't she and she, what an
amazing dog.
And she was with Smiley for somany dog and she was with Smiley
for so many years and she washis guide dog, she was his
protector and best friend, andit was.
She was such a great girl, sucha motherly dog and she.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
She always seemed like such a amazing dog.
But also just her face.
You're like, oh Pippi, yeah,make me happy looking at you
yeah, yeah, yeah, and we justrecently lost her.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
She was 16.
Same thing with Smiley.
Smiley was almost 16 years oldwhen we lost him, so can't be
sad of that.
And what a life he had.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And same thing with Pippi and so Pippi was a prime
example of you using a dog tohelp your other pets.
I remember seeing when youfirst got buck, who is been
popping in with us.
Hippie did a lot of motheringfor him too, and absolutely so.
You've really managed to, and Iknow you have been a dog
(24:33):
trainer and done all of that.
I love how, on your social, youshow everybody the reality of
dogs interacting and when tostep in and not train dogs.
And for me, having seen so manypeople give up on dogs when
they don't get along withanother dog, is you really work
so hard to make your pack getalong and understand and all of
(24:55):
that?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
and that is just like what I was saying with buck.
I trust him and dogs have apack mentality and, like I said,
things that I learned fromsmiling is just letting the
dog's natural instincts come out, and dogs want to be in a pack.
Dogs want to have a leader.
They're, of course, they'regoing to be a leader in the pack
and using each other and notinterfering all the time, not
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micromanaging everybody, and yousee here too, that you're also
watching the interactionsbetween other species like
horses and ducks, and geese.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yes, first of all, I have a little crush on pedro the
donkey.
He seems like such a sweet boy,like just a big dog.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, he is like a big, large puppy, and you see
all these videos about donkeysand them cuddling up.
They're like that.
My horse, which I've had for 20years, he'd be like you got
anything?
Okay, never mind, pedro, itdoesn't matter if you have food
or not.
He wants to be on your lap, hewants affection.
They're so sweet.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I'm so glad we have him.
Well, one of the things I'vealways loved about following you
you're always educating onbehavior and all of that, but
also on caring for your pets andhelping pets when they have
medical issues or when they'reolder, Like with Pippi.
You talk so much about that,which I'm sure has helped so
many people with their pets, andone of the things you talk
(26:20):
about is using CBDs with yourpets.
Can you talk about what madeyou first decide to try CBD to
help with something with a pet?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'll tell you, back in the day, when Smiley was near
his end and he had liver, hehad a mass on his liver and he
had a mass on his stomach and soit was really just managing him
palliative care, basicallybecause there was nothing we
could do about it.
I remember people were sendingme messages going cbd, get him
on cbd.
I was just like, are youkidding me?
Right him cbd.
But I didn't know what that was.
I just thought of canadas and Iwas like I was just stop
(27:00):
telling me that, like I had somany people saying get him on
cbd and I was just like you'recrazy.
You're crazy, I would never.
And then I, years later, I findthis.
Actually I didn't just randomlyfind it.
I followed this real health andwellness woman and she would
talk about CBD, but still itdidn't tweak me or anything like
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that.
But I was starting to slowlylearn about it and the benefits
of it, and I was never one ofthese people, even as a teenager
, that dabbled in cannabis.
I did not do that, so I didn'tknow the benefits of it.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Have any experience with it.
But I also totally get it know.
Early on with cbd, when itbecame more mainstream, most
people didn't know thedifference between that and
actual thc, which is, yeah, theactual drug.
You hear and think, oh my god,you're giving somebody drugs.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Well, yeah, exactly yeah, so like I was just slowly
learning about it.
But then this health andwellness woman.
She decided that most of theCBD that's on the market is
garbage it is.
It's full of glyphosates, it'sfull of mold, heavy metals.
It doesn't work.
You know what I mean.
It should work really well.
(28:12):
This is just a plant.
And so she decided that she wasgoing to do her own CBD line,
and so I was there with herbasically watching her start
this and how she did it andhearing the benefits of it.
And that was in 2020, thespring of 2020.
And Sonny so, after Smiley died,we rescued little Sonny, who
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was born with the same traditionas Smiley.
He was found in Mexico on thestreets, also born without eyes,
and so, anyway, we went and weadopted him.
But when we would bring him upto the cottage and he's a
terrier type of mixed dog whenwe bring him up north here, the
smells of the wild animals,especially in the spring,
(28:55):
probably most likely was bears.
You know what I mean.
That he was smelling everymorning because they would be
out there.
He was so stressed out, hewanted to flee and he was good,
it wasn't always like that, butthe smells of these animals.
He couldn't cope.
He couldn't go outside.
He was so scared and that's allit was.
(29:17):
It was just the sc, the sense.
So I decided to give it a trywith sunny and I ordered this
new vita and within two days hewas over it.
He was like he could put it,quiets the brain, like his brain
was must be going.
Oh my god, is it right here?
Is it gonna kill me where?
Speaker 1 (29:36):
is it?
Speaker 2 (29:36):
hey, here is, is it?
You know what I mean going,that's what I pictured when poor
sunny's little brain because hedid she could smell it and he
didn't know what that bear wasthere.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
You know what I mean.
Yeah, I mean I'm imaginingmyself in a room that's
completely dark.
I have covering on my eye andthen I can hear smell a bear.
I would be so scared.
I would have no idea if it'sreal or a speaker making that.
So you can just imagine theanxiety and the uncertainty he
would go through.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
And he, coming from the streets of Mexico and many
generations of street dog, hewas very much about survival,
like you can really see it inany of these dogs that come over
from, is it or not years andyears of domestic?
I'm not saying he was feral.
Of these dogs that come overfrom, is there not years and
years of domestic?
I'm not saying he was feral orsomething like that, but it is
surviving.
Yeah, it's a different lightand that's ingrained in them,
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and so he wasn't used to justthe good life.
You know what I mean.
So, like I said, within twodays, he was better and, like I
said, this was during the 2020spring and I also was so
stressed out we didn't rememberthat.
We can all remember how horriblethat was.
I was scared and I was justvery stressed.
(30:48):
I remember losing, losing mypatience and I was just so upset
.
Anyway, I thought and, like Isaid, it was the pet cbd and I
thought, if it did that forSunny, I gave it to Sunny.
I thought I'm taking this.
So I took it and same thingWithin two days.
I was just not saying like Iwas in low land going, you know,
I was just like I'm notsnapping on anybody.
(31:11):
I'm not.
I'm able to sleep, I'm.
My mind isn't going a mile aminute thinking about what the
world is coming to right now,like it instantly calmed me down
, and I was also just startinggoing into menopause at that
time, and so that also probablydidn't tell my anxiety about the
hot flashes my anxiety has beenas bad as since I had a
(31:37):
hysterectomy.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
It's just I'll be like why am I?
Why is that happening?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
yeah, and now I'm learning too is menopause.
This is what happens to women.
It's the anxiety also arthritis, pain that all of a sudden
comes.
There's whole inflammation, allof a bunch of stuff that comes
with that.
Yeah, so my hot flashes all of asudden, when I had never heard
anything about menopause and CBD.
All I knew was I felt betterand I wasn't on edge, I wasn't
(32:05):
snapping at my family.
Sometimes when I think aboutback then it just brings me to
tears because it was such astressful time, anyway.
So then I thought if the petCBD works that good, anyway?
So then I thought if the petCBD works that good, how can I
feel if I get the human formula?
And that's when I started onthat and I never used this
phrase before in my life.
(32:31):
But all I could come up with andnow everybody says it, they say
life-changing and that's theonly way I could describe it
because everything changed onceI started sunny CBD, like, yeah,
my daily life just changed, myparenting changed.
I think my son was probably 10then and just being a mom is
hard, no matter what.
But he was home there's noschool and I was in, they said.
(32:52):
Ever since then I've been abetter mother.
I've been a better mother.
I've been a better dog trainer,a better wife, a better friend.
I slept better, like I.
Just I couldn't believe thatthis was near me.
And now it's been four and ahalf years.
I have not missed a day oftaking this and I've used it on
all my dogs for differentreasons, and Sonny I didn't have
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to continue giving it.
I got him through a stressfultime in his life and then he's
fine, and every once in a whilesomething might pop up and I
have to get himself I thinkthat's important because even
for yourself, like I find, ifyou're having a really stressful
day, it's okay to take a littlemore or extra gummy.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Need that, so you use it as well.
Do you know, I do.
I use CBD in different forms,probably for the last 10 or 15
years.
I've had autoimmune issuessince I was in my 20s A lot of
pain, inflammation, fatigue.
I've had issues with my mouth, Ihad a lot of pain there and
stuff, and it just I don't.
(33:54):
It's like in a way like a cloud, like you don't.
It's like in a way like a cloud, like you don't feel all the
tension and stress in your body,but also in your mind, like you
said it just you're not out ofit.
Yeah, yeah, why it's all the?
Why am I not doing this?
I need to do that.
I didn't do this, I missed that.
Why?
It just puts that away so youcan focus.
(34:14):
And that's been reallyimportant for me because
definitely, my anxiety has beenworse since 2020 with COVID so
(34:34):
many of us but as a and one ofthe biggest things for me
besides the anxiety has beensleep, because sleep is hard.
If I get too tired, I can'tsleep.
If I'm in anywhere, I can'tsleep.
If I'm anxious, I can't sleep,and so I use Navita's, the CBN
gummies, now at night, and ithelped me so much to get to
(35:00):
sleep because that was always mybiggest issue to get and see.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
It just quiets your mind so you can fall asleep
instead of going off in youryeah like kids, just start
coming to you as soon as yourhead hits the pillow and I hear
that from so many women say thesame thing and and that's what I
also then look at these dogs.
So all these years I've beentrying to help families with
(35:25):
their dogs.
I've been doing private dogtraining for 15 years, but
before that I was teachingclasses constantly, but so I've
always been trying to helppeople with their dogs.
I'm obviously an advocate forrescue and adoption and the
thing is, if I can help a familywith their dog, that's going to
keep them from being such a cowthey're giving up.
(35:47):
So this just was just so inline.
If you're not a dog trainer ora behaviorist, there's a lot of
dog issues that people reallystruggle with, and dogs are
struggling and your typicalperson can't deal with that.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I can say for me, having worked and volunteered in
the shelter for a little while,one of the biggest issues we
saw in the shelter dogs not onlygetting adopted but getting
returned was the separationanxiety exactly they'd be in a
new environment, a new home.
They weren't used to theschedule or what was happening.
The people would leave and theywould just be like I'm alone
(36:27):
again yeah, and then they'd belike, oh, I can't deal with this
dog.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
They didn't even give the dog a chance, but that must
be so stressful, you knowstarting a new life and who
knows what their life was beforethe shelter.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Like you said, like sunny, we had dogs on the street
.
People dump them on the streetout in the middle of orchards
here.
The overpopulation crisis whereI live in california is awful
and dogs we had two shelterswhere I lived that unfortunately
euthanize every week, sometimesevery day, because our breeding
laws aren't great and so manyother issues.
(37:02):
It's a snowball at this pointover the last few years.
But being in there and seeingamazing dogs get adopted and
then returned because, well,they tore up a blanket or they
pulled down my blinds or theydidn't get along, I'm like vines
or they didn't get along.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I'm like it's been two days.
Of course they didn't, wouldyou exactly exactly?
And so people want to seesomething quickly and I'll say I
really push, push people, butI'm always suggesting going.
If you are trying to introducea new dog into your house,
please try this.
It's going to make it a loteasier on the dog and a lot
easier on you, and even givingit to an existing dog in the
(37:43):
house if you're trying to bringanother dog or a cat in, there's
so many reasons to use it.
That's why I suggest to peopleI'm like, if you have a pet, get
a bottle.
There's a little tiny bottlehere.
This might be like I think thisis about $20.
Yeah, to have it in your toolkit, in your medicine kit for your
dog, because if all of a suddenyou have contractors in your
(38:05):
house drilling up a floor orsomething that's going to be
stressful for your dog, boom,you have this for them.
Right?
And injury I'm always thinkingof that too.
If your dog has a major injuryand you've got to do baby
changes or clean out ears, thisis going to make this a lot
smoother for both of you.
Vet visits so working in a vethospital for 30 years.
(38:27):
Oh, my goodness, I used to hateseeing these dogs come in
petrified, shaking like a leafso stressed, just for a simple
vet visit.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
My cats all get so terrified.
I just took Charlie to the vet.
He pees in the carrier.
His eyes are like this bigthey're drooling.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
They're panting.
Cats especially.
They are so sensitive to anytype of change and stress and it
can really throw them off.
A cat can get sick from just alittle bit of anxiety because
they stop eating.
Cats cannot stop eating.
Their body starts feeding ontheir own liver.
So cats can't go off food.
(39:09):
Dogs are people.
We can go, we can, we can.
We'll just get skinny after aweek.
You know what I mean.
Really, like cats cannot gowithout eating.
So and cats cannot go withouteating.
And cats are so sensitive tothe benefits.
We've used it on Rusty a fewtimes and I was amazed how
little it took.
It just made a happy cat.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
And there's nothing better If you need to clip their
nails or take them somewhere.
I mean like moving.
I remember when we moved in ourhouse it was so stressful.
They hid in the closet for twodays.
That's horrible, I need a gameto that.
Yeah, so, beyond anxiety andthings like that, you have
talked about a lot about how youuse it with pets when they have
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medical issues or when they getolder, like with Pippi.
So how have you used the petCBD in that way?
So how have you used the petCBD in that way?
So Pippi.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
She ended up with a heart condition, probably when
she was, I guess, 14, 13, 14.
And so and she was on rightaround that time we started
noticing she was doing somethings.
So at nighttime she was uppacing.
We could hear her lateThroughout the night.
We'd be like she was up pacingand then randomly there'd be
(40:19):
these weird barks from her.
She was pooping on the floor inthe night and what we realized
is this is basically doggyAlzheimer's.
It usually comes up atnighttime.
They're confused, that's sothey get the pacing.
So then they don't sleep atnight and then their days are
crappy, just like us.
You know what I?
So then they don't sleep atnight and then their days are
crappy, just like us.
You know what I mean.
You don't sleep, well, you'regonna have a crappy day, and so
(40:41):
we.
So that was the first reason Istarted giving.
I used it in pippi forstressful things vet visits,
grooming, whatever.
But then I decided I'm gonnagive it to her on a daily, twice
a day, and within the firstdose that I gave that night she
slept soundly, and this I hearfrom so many people.
(41:02):
Now they're using it for this.
If your dog lives to a good agethey are probably going to show
signs of this dementia doggydementia and it usually comes
out as in the night it's usuallythings and then they start to
not recognize you, there'sthings like that.
But the first night I gave itto Pippi she slept soundly, and
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then the next day she obviouslylooked so great because she had
a good sleep.
So that just solved that rightaway and so I just kept giving
it to her at nighttime.
But then she started showingsigns of arthritis.
I mean, she's been a veryactive dog and she would be
limping different times, or shewould just jump up into the back
of the truck and then she'd belimping just from a jump and
(41:43):
slow to get up.
And so we ended up getting heron MediCam from the vet.
But then I so then I was givingit to her every day for her
doggy dementia and I would onlygive the Mediam if I saw her.
I tried not to give it everyday because I didn't want her to
have this every day.
It's very hard on the liver andso I would watch to see what's
(42:05):
usually was maybe every threedays, depending on what she did
and so I started realizing thatI wasn't needing to give her the
medicam Days, would go by andbe like she not working, she's
not living, and again you canread all you want, but until you
start seeing it for yourself,and then I would actually read
up and go, and then it was likeit's, it works as an
inflammatory right yeah.
(42:27):
And now I was like, is thisreally happening?
Like usually if a dog goes onmedicam they do not come off,
they just end up getting it moreand more.
So I realized that she wasn'tneeding the Medicam at all.
Sometimes I would just go okay,this is so weird, I haven't
given it to her in a week, so Iwould just give it to her,
thinking she must need it.
And then finally it was.
(42:47):
She never got it, ever again.
I remember half a bottle ofMedicam that sat in her little
medicine box for two years andI'd look at this and go, I
didn't show people the date, Iwas showing people that this
bottle was two years old.
I don't use it anymore.
She's getting everything sheneeds from the medicam.
And then she ended up with astroke episode and she couldn't
(43:12):
stand up.
She was did you watch all that?
Yeah like she was in a harness.
We had to hold her up, wethought this is the end of her
and then with that it's almostlike a vertigo.
It was very odd, and then theydidn't want to eat Anyway.
So then I started getting it toher in the morning, during the
day, because before I was justonly giving it at night.
And this heart condition thatshe had, they say usually they
(43:38):
will live like four to sixmonths with it on medication and
we had put her on the heartmeds and two and a half years I
think she made it and I trulybelieve it was from the CBD, the
Nuvega, which is, if you readabout CBD and heart conditions,
it strengthens the heart.
It lowers blood pressurenaturally.
(44:00):
Naturally that's one of theonly they will talk about like a
side effect of it is, yes, itlowers blood pressure.
You know what I mean.
That's right.
That's why you don't feel likeyou're gonna rip somebody's head
off.
Yeah, exactly so with all that,her heart just kept going and
until just no more sorry, and Iknow it kept her happy, because
(44:22):
I'm sure it's very weird for adog to start feeling different
right, so it just benefited,benefited her in so many ways.
It kept her.
A lot of dogs we lose dogsbecause they go.
They lose their appetite, right, for whatever reasons.
And this cbd, what they say is,it creates a homeostasis in the
(44:43):
body, whether it's me or yourdog, which is balanced.
So homeostasis, balance, andthat's why it affects each dog
differently and every persondifferently.
It knows whether you need toincrease your appetite, right,
because some people it curbs theappetite.
Right, because some people itcurbs the appetite Right and
some people it increases theappetite.
They use it.
There's all kinds of examplesof using it in cancer patients
(45:07):
to keep their appetite up.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Great, because there was always that thing years ago.
Well, smoke a little weed andit'll help your appetite.
Well, you don't have to do that.
There's actually CBD you canuse and, instead of being one, a
little thc.
You can get those too.
And that's what's great.
Because of following you andtaking it myself, I've become an
affiliate for new vita, justlike you have nice.
(45:32):
So what made you decide thatyou wanted to become an
affiliate?
Speaker 2 (45:37):
because I was going to be.
I was sharing this anyway, youknow what I mean.
I wanted to tell the worldabout this for people, for
themselves and for their pets,because a lot of the products on
the market really have gotten abad name because it's so bad,
it's such garbage.
Especially in the US, I seethat they sell it on every
counter, like they sell on gasstations, like it's everywhere
(46:00):
you can get it in all sorts ofplaces.
It's the dollar store.
That's what I hear.
Like you can get it at thedollar store.
So would I buy my vitamins froma dollar store?
No, never.
Where it's come from is veryquestionable, and they sell it
to every other company you knowwhat I mean Like a lot of the
(46:25):
cbd companies that are out thereyou'll see, it'll be like we're
all these cbd, it's not.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
They don't.
They just slap a label on it.
You know what I mean?
They don't know where it's comefrom.
I've taken other brands andversions and they don't all work
like nubita does.
For sure you can tell that it'squality and they know what
they're doing.
And what I love now is they'reoffering different detox
products, which is actuallythat's what got me to sign up as
an affiliate, because I usethose detox, especially the
(46:47):
digestive one.
I've had I had an ulcer at fiveyears old.
I've always had issues.
I've been labeled irritablebowel syndrome, all that stuff,
and I have to say I was soregular and not having points
where I'm like, oh my God, I gotto get to a bathroom Watching
you take it and hearing thebenefits you and other people in
(47:09):
your family have had.
I tried it and it really worked.
So I became an affiliate forthe podcast so that all of the
listeners can get it tothemselves and their pets.
And one thing I wanted to sayabout pets formula specifically
before we end our conversation.
I'm sure we could talk foranother couple hours about it.
(47:31):
I'll have to come back.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
I'll have to come back.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
We're gonna come, but maybe we have you come back and
do a q a and we'll haveeverybody questions.
I did want to tell the peoplewho have other pets.
Let them know that you've usedit on all different types of
animals.
I remember you using it on yourduck to help his.
You can talk briefly a littlebit how you've used it with
animals outside of dogs.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, I will say all animals have an endocannabinoid
system in their body.
We have receptors waiting forthis, we have them in our skin,
we have them in our stomach andwe have them in our brain.
And that's where you get allthese benefits, whether it's gut
issues, mental and also topical.
(48:12):
So I use it on and I don't.
Do you remember when Buck hiswhole oh yeah, loft off?
He had some reaction tosomething, his whole entire
muzzle sloughed off into a scab,his ear tips, his scrotum.
It was horrible.
Well, you can't put cream on adog's face, some kind of cream,
(48:33):
because they're going to lick itoff.
You know what I mean, yeah, soI love that.
You know what I mean.
So they can take it in bothways.
So I could put it close to hiseyes, all down his lips, and I,
because I remember thinkinggoing, wow, he was so handsome,
if you remember when he was apuppy, and this was before he
was a year and then all of asudden his whole face went into
a scab that looked like acid hadbeen put on him, and I remember
(48:56):
thinking, well, he was the mosthandsome dog I'd ever seen.
And he's not that hair.
There's no way his hair isgoing to grow back.
Anyway, you know like it allgrew back and I believe it's
from that.
So I use it on any kind of skinirritation and wound on myself
and the dogs, because dogs arealways going to lick it up, so
it's safe.
But this duck that we rescuedhe had a hole like this big
(49:21):
under his wing.
It was a hole.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
I could have put my fist in it.
It was pretty.
You could tell even on videoand photo.
It was so deep.
It was like someone took achunk out of him.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
I have no idea still what that was from, I have no
idea, and how he just got foundon the side of a road and
somebody just picked him up andthen ended up here.
But same thing, ducks preyingthemselves and anyway.
So, using it topically and,like I said, it was a gaping
hole.
What do you put in that?
So I was just putting the CBDon it every single day and I
(49:53):
still thought he's not gonna.
He may not make it like this isthis is bad?
Like how is this?
Speaker 1 (50:09):
you can see right there, you wouldn't even know
anything exactly wrong, so Icannot believe he made it and
healed perfectly.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Can issue my son on Lima.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
I have the.
I just got this, the roller,and, oh my gosh, I use it.
I literally keep it in myoffice because I start getting
that in my neck from being likethis and I start feeling it.
I'm like get the roller.
Is it not the best smell ever?
(50:44):
It's so easy, because thenyou're getting messy and you can
rub it wherever you need it togo.
Even.
Is it not like magic?
It's magic.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
I don't tell people how good it works, but then I
will always get a message goingare you kidding me?
Right?
And I did it.
Yeah, like it's instant.
And that to show you, we havereceptors taking this in right
and it works like it's right.
But everybody's holy god.
That's math, that's the magic,what?
Speaker 1 (51:14):
and I was thinking I know why people question it.
Because you have all thisamazing stuff that could happen.
It's for you, it's going to dothis for you.
Then they get it and it's great.
It is magic, it is.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
And this is where you become an affiliate, because
it's something that you canstand behind.
Right, I don't get messageswhere it didn't work for me.
You know what I mean.
I don't want to deal with thatbecause you get messages that
say, yeah, I wish I'd listen toyou sooner.
Oh my gosh, did you see that?
I actually shared that becausethey were like, oh, it's so
(51:47):
funny and that's all like,that's why I keep talking about
it.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
So I will be putting all this info, the link to new
vita and you can use my codejulie 10 for 10 off.
And it's not your first order,or so much.
You have to pay any amountevery order.
Keep getting it.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Trust me, once you start, you won't stop the point
of an affiliate to you is thatthey have you to come to to ask
a question and even if you don'tknow the answer, you can go to
Nubida.
You can come to me and you canfind the answer for them.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
And I love that NuVita has.
Every week they have like atraining session for affiliates.
Learn about products, you canask questions and I've learned
so much from you, not only totake it, but you're always
sharing what you're learning andwhat people are saying, and it
helps.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
I always share the reviews of when people send me a
message.
I love that there's like I said, that's my thing, like I loved.
Usually I'm just helpingfamilies with their pets, but,
oh my gosh, I'm one of thosewomen helping other women and I
love seeing.
I just I'm a helper.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
I don't think I'm also going to have you on my
other podcast, which is allabout empowering women to tell
their stories other podcastwhich is all about empowering
women to tell their stories, andso I would love for us to talk
on that podcast about ourpersonal experience with cbd and
how it tells us, especially aswomen in our 40s and 50s.
Yeah, because we don't talkabout it and we need that
support.
Yeah, but wives are stressfulright now.
(53:15):
Life is stressful right now.
Not stopping.
It's always something.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah, and you know what, and what a lot of people
say too, is that, instead ofgoing to a bottle of wine that's
what I love too you know what?
Instead of going to a bottle ofwine, have a CBD drink.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
And I started using the Chill Berry, which is the
CBD, with a little, just alittle bit, of tea, and I don't
really drink my husband's'ssober, so we don't drink, and I
would say at night it does.
Oh, it's that nice, but what Ilove, which is that I don't feel
hung over the next morning Ialways did with alcohol and so
(53:53):
it's there's no harm to yourbody, it's good for you, it's
all plant-based and you're gonnafeel good the next day, which
is like what we all needabsolutely I'm so glad that,
like I said when we first got onhere, I've been following you
for so long.
I feel like I know you, like youlive next door, but I've never
met you live thousands of milesaway, yeah, but I love watching
(54:18):
you and your family and I just Ifeel like I can't wait to visit
Sunny Acres one day and meetall the horses and all the ducks
and everybody, and the dogsespecially.
But if he's here, I want him toknow he's the most important
and for sure we will be doing alive or coming back here
(54:39):
recording another episode.
Anybody has questions aboutwhat we've talked about in terms
of the CBD and helping yourpets or helping yourself.
Please feel free to comment onsocial or email me or whatever
works for you, because I wouldlove to come back and talk more
about it and answer the people'squestions.
So just thank you for beinghere.
(54:59):
I'm so enjoy getting to talk toyou face to face and thank you
for introducing me to nubita.
I'm super excited to beinvolved with that now and I
can't wait for us to just keepsharing and helping other people
.
Absolutely.
Thank you, my friend and fellowanimal, for being here with us
(55:20):
today and listening to thisepisode.
I really hope you enjoyed myconversation with Joanne and
that you enjoyed all the storiesabout her amazing animals and
her fur family and also learningabout the benefits of using CBD
with your pets and yourself.
You can go to the link in theshow notes of this episode to
(55:41):
shop at NuVita right now.
Use my code JULIE10 for 10% offyour order.
No minimum purchase.
You can use the code everysingle time you shop, even if
you're setting up a monthlysubscription.
So go now, get it for your pets, get it for yourself.
Let me know how it helps andwe'll be doing another episode
(56:04):
soon to talk about all of yourquestions and other examples
that we have of people who havestarted NuVita with themselves
and their pets and how it hashelped them.
Thank you so much forsupporting the Story of my Pet
podcast.
Don't forget to hit thesubscribe button wherever you
are listening now, and you canalso see full video episodes now
(56:26):
on my YouTube channel link inthe show notes.
I can't wait to bring you morepet stories in episodes to come.
Thank you for listening andmuch love to you and your pets.
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