November 20, 2025 • 40 mins
What happens when a former speech therapist realizes the “perfect plan” for parenting doesn’t exist—and chooses presence over pressure? We sit down with Carrie Lingenfelter to explore how mindful attention, compassionate language, and simple spiritual practices can transform family life, especially for highly sensitive and neurodiverse kids.
Carrie shares her journey from evidence-first frameworks to heart-led parenting that honors each child’s wiring. We unpack how labels can open doors to support without defining identity, why words like gifted, spirited, and sensitive change a child’s inner story, and how to build a shared family language that spotlights strengths. From quick pre-pickup resets to modeled boundaries that sound like “give me five minutes to recharge,” we offer practical steps that shift the home from reactivity to co-regulation.
You’ll learn kid-friendly energy tools that actually stick: morning “white and gold light” protection, grounding roots into the earth, a simple mantra to keep emotional spillover at bay, and bedtime meditations that release the day’s weight. We talk about helping children become experts of themselves—recognizing when empathy serves and when a clear boundary is the most caring choice. Friendship dynamics, reflective questions, and story-based coaching round out a toolkit that helps sensitive kids navigate loud social worlds with clarity and confidence.
If you’re craving strategies that feel human, doable, and steadying, this conversation offers a path back to calm connection. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs a little extra ease, and leave a review to help more parents find these tools. Your presence is the most powerful practice—start with one small ritual today.
Lindsay Miller is a distinguished kids mindfulness coach, mindfulness educator and host of The Stress Nanny Podcast. She is known for her suitcase tricks and playful laugh. When she's not cheering on her daughter or rollerblading on local trails with her husband, you can find her using her 20+ years of child development study and mindfulness certification to dream up new ways to get kids excited about deep breathing. Having been featured on numerous podcasts, platforms and publications, Lindsay’s words of wisdom are high impact and leave a lasting impression wherever she goes.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:20):
Welcome to the Stress Nanny, the podcast where
we take the overwhelm out ofparenting and help kids and
parents build calm, confidence,and connection.
I'm your host, Lindsay Miller,Kids Mindfulness Coach and
Cheerleader for Busy FamiliesEverywhere.
Each week we'll explore simpletools, uplifting stories, and
practical strategies to helpyour child learn emotional
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regulation, resilience, andself-confidence, while giving
you a little more peace of mindtoo.
I'm so glad you're here.
My guest today is CarrieLingenfelter.
Carrie is a former speechtherapist turned conscious
parenting advocate, podcasthost, and change maker.
As the host of the Heart toHeart Parents Podcast, she
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empowers parents with mindfuland spiritual tools to raise
emotionally intelligent,compassionate children.
As a mother of two, Carrie drawsfrom her personal journey of
overcoming anxiety,perfectionism, and parenting
burnout to inspire parents tostep into their power.
Her mission is to support changemakers raising change makers by
fostering self-awareness,emotional growth, and spiritual
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connection within families.
Carrie, thanks so much forjoining me today.
I am excited for ourconversation.
Thanks so much for having me,Lindsay.
I'm so excited to connect.
SPEAKER_00 (01:48):
Yeah, for sure.
So for a little background, Iwas a speech therapist, early
intervention, so birth to agethree.
And I also was a first gradeteacher before I had kids.
And when I had kids, I had toldmy husband, I've got it.
I'm a child specialist.
No need to worry.
Like, I've got it.
I'm ready to be a mom.
And as soon as I became a mom,all of that went out the window.
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I suddenly started to realize Iwould get into my head a lot.
And each child is obviously sodifferent.
But when you have your own, ityou really do understand that in
a new way, versus being ateacher or speech therapist.
So it quickly became clear thatI needed to find new ideas and
new ways to connect.
And luckily, I had spiritualpeople around me, my mom and
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other friends and mygrandmother.
I was raised spiritually.
And so just having them there tohelp me ground in myself and
reconnect with myself reallyhelped me to put away some of
the parenting books, put awaysome of the expectations that I
had for myself and that I hadread online that I needed to
have for myself as a mom and howto even just follow a sleep
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schedule was like putting thataway.
And that was not for us.
So learning to follow my kidsand follow my inner guidance was
something that I have beenlearning and growing in for
almost 10 years now.
My son's turning 10 next month.
So yeah, so that's where thatbackground came from.
Spirituality has always been abig part of my life.
And as we grow from sensitivekids, like I was a sensitive
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child into an adult, sometimesit can be hard to come back to
the way that we connected withourselves.
And so as a parent, that helpedme to find myself again and find
that for myself to startpracticing again after being a
know it all in my early 20s.
No, I'm just kidding.
But um, you know, you'redeveloping into your own.
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And so you sometimes stray fromwhat you originally had as a
foundation in life.
So finding that again for myselfwas really powerful.
And then as my kids got older,we started to realize that there
were some neurodiverse pieces.
They're gifted and talented, andthey have other labels as well.
I love to say my kids aregifted, spirited, and highly
sensitive.
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So I ended up starting thepodcast to help other parents so
they didn't feel alone in thisjourney of hearing ourselves,
finding what we need for ourkids, finding the strengths in
our children, helping ourchildren to see those strengths
in themselves, and then workingto keep them conscious and
connected to themselves intoparenthood or into adulthood.
SPEAKER_01 (04:22):
Yeah, I love that.
Thanks for sharing thosesnippets.
And I think too, I reallyresonate with your perspective
around feeling a level of booklearning or experience going
into parenting, and thenrecognizing once you get there
that there's a lot of flying bythe seat of your pants and just
being able to adapt and havethat flexibility in the moment.
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And I love the differentelements that you've
incorporated into obviously yourpodcast and then also, you know,
just your life that allow youthe flexibility you needed to
parent the kids that you have inthe time that you live, in the
circumstances that you findyourself.
SPEAKER_00 (05:00):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really been a journey andit's been really fun to kind of
let go of the reins and seewhere I'm guided.
I know definitely when I firststarted my podcast, I was on the
side of more evidence-basedpractice and theory, just
learning that in grad school somuch and having that so heavy in
grad school.
And then I would physically,physically receive it from the
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universe, like, nope, youdefinitely need to jump in full,
jump in full into the deep endof the mindfulness and the
spirituality and all thesepieces.
And yeah, once I did it, it waslike all of that relief that
came over me.
It was like, whoa, this is meantto be.
This is where I need to be at.
And I'm finding so many peoplereally want that in their lives
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too.
SPEAKER_01 (05:46):
Yeah, no, I love that.
And I think you and I talkedabout it on your show when we
did our interview, but just therecognition that being fully
present and cultivating theability to be fully present
allows the wisdom either thatyou've learned, that you've
heard, that's within you, that'swithin your kids, that's all
around us, that wisdom to findyou.
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Like that's the present momentis where it finds you.
And so if we're like spinningoff into the far reaches of our
worries or last week or nextmonth, it's really tricky to
access the vast wisdom that'saccessible only if we can tune
into right now.
SPEAKER_00 (06:27):
Ooh, 100%.
Yes.
And then think about if we'reteaching our kids that it's it's
so empowering for them,especially so many kids coming
into the world right now andgetting labels.
It's so common for so many ofthese kids.
And then hearing those labels,like, what does that do to us as
we're growing?
We can get so in your head soquickly.
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So that's been really empoweringfor my kids.
We will say sensitive, we willsay gifted, we'll say, oh, my
brain works really, really fastand really, really hard.
So sometimes I can be a littlemore nervous than others because
my brain goes so quickly.
So yeah, naming all thosepieces.
I love that empowering.
SPEAKER_01 (07:05):
No, I agree a hundred percent.
And I want to go there for aminute because I really love the
language that you use.
Just for a bit of background, mylisteners have heard this story
before.
But when I was doing aninternship in college, I was
interning in a resourceclassroom and I had kids with a
variety of language or labels,and the language we used in the
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classroom, like it was sojarring to me, right?
And I'm just this new littleintern, but I was just like,
we're actually talking aboutpeople here.
And it was just like no nodisrespect to any of my
coworkers at the time, right?
It was just the language ofschool, you know, and how we
referred to certain disorders ordisabilities or all of the diss
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things, you know.
It was so alarming to me to comein and see the way that the kids
responded to that label becauseI had a fresh outlook on it.
And I was just noticing we arenot doing them any favors by
using these terms to describethem because they're coming with
this whole massive weight.
And I agree that we can beserved by the label, right?
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It helps us narrow things down,it helps us like know what
support is going to be the mosteffective, it helps us really
understand ourselves better.
And so in those ways, the labelcan serve, but it has to be like
gently cradled, right?
And it has to be like a thingthat we are intentional about
referring to instead of thisthing that's just like weighing
this poor kid down and makingthem feel like they've got like
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something they're tugging aroundwith them everywhere they go
that automatically sets them,you know, like apart or back or
aside from the other kids.
So talk to me about yourexperience there.
When you were in this realm as aprofessional, were you also one
of the people who were like, no,no, no, let's refer to this a
little differently?
Because when I went in thatclassroom every day, I'd be
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like, we're not talking aboutyou that way.
Like we're talking about you inthis moment right here, as you
are, with the incredible skillsand gifts that you're bringing
to right now.
And I don't care what your labelis, insofar as like it affects
your self-worth, because that'sa constant for me.
And I don't think any label isgonna change that.
So let's start there, you know?
And so that was how I approachedthe kids in the classroom.
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And we respected the label andworked with the label, but I
didn't let them be defined byit.
So talk to me about your journeyto that realization.
SPEAKER_00 (09:25):
Yeah, you know, it's almost a little bit of a gift
that I started out in earlyintervention with my speech
therapy after going through myprogram because I feel like in
the early intervention programthat I worked at in Colorado, we
really looked at the wholechild.
So it was so cool because youare instead of writing IEPs,
you're writing, I think it wasIFSP, so family plans.
SPEAKER_01 (09:49):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (09:50):
So you're talking about the strengths, you're
talking about the challenges,you're looking social,
emotional, physical, mental.
You're looking at all thesedifferent areas.
And isn't that cool?
Wouldn't that be cool if we didthat in our schools when they're
older?
Right.
So that part was really neat.
And I did this before I evenrealized it.
I wasn't a mom yet, but I wasn'tchoosing to talk about naming
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the labels, like your child hasan expressive language disorder
or delay.
And I would just focus on theneeds that they were seeing in
that day.
I was focusing on what is itthat you want your child to do?
We would break it down to whatis it that we can focus on
today?
And, you know, it was reallyfunny, but I was I was drawn to
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the different, the differenttechniques from my heart.
And I didn't really, because Ihad my back of tricks, all of
the techniques, but I would gointo a house and I wouldn't know
ahead of time until I got therethat this child is needing this
one.
This child is needing theparent.
And I would see the family and Iwould see, okay, the family is
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really wanting this child totalk, but I need to have the
parents slow down because thatchild is picking up that energy
and that intensity and thatpressure of like, say it now,
say it now.
We need you to talk because it'sreally frustrating.
So that was a huge piece wasjust getting everybody to slow
down, release that pressure,calm themselves down.
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It's interesting.
SPEAKER_01 (11:16):
Yeah, no, I love that.
And I think that it's such aninteresting perspective because
you could have the neutrality.
Because it is, like youmentioned uh just a minute ago,
when it's your own kid andyou're watching something that's
maybe not going the way you wantit to, you're as a parent
feeling the things, right?
And so there's there's not a I'mnot gonna feel option, right?
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Like especially for parents whotend to be more sensitive.
But like there's as parents,we're just invested in our kids
in a different way than anyoneelse is.
And so you having thatexperience in a neutral setting
and then being able to apply itin your own home, that's so
beautiful to me.
SPEAKER_00 (11:56):
Well, I could definitely practice it outside
of my home when I came into myhome.
It was a different story, right?
Because you're so emotionallyinvolved and so emotionally
wrapped up in it, yeah, that itreally took a lot of.
I always say, like, even themost spiritual guru you can
think about, like Ed Cartoli isa big guy.
Even people like that, do theypractice what they preach?
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I don't know what goes on on theinside, but I'm always saying,
you find your system that workswell for you because we're all
human.
And when we're raising children,we never know what's coming.
We never know.
I always even say, when our kidsare coming out of school, we
never know what is coming out ofthe door.
Did they have a great day?
Are they exhausted?
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Are they sick?
Are they breaking down becausesomebody hurt their feelings?
Like you never know what'scoming.
So having all of these tools andtricks and ways to energize
ourselves, self-care, all ofthese pieces in our pocket
before we even get to school topick up our kids, is so
important.
SPEAKER_01 (12:58):
Yeah, I love that so much too, because I think you're
right.
And again, it's this idea ofpresence, right?
It's the mindfulness allows usto be in this moment.
And I like to describemindfulness as like knowing
what's going on inside of you,knowing what's going on outside
of you, and then making a choiceon purpose.
So, in those moments, likeyou're saying, before kiddos
come home, I know, like Ilearned when my daughter was
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younger how my own distractioninfluenced how the shift into
home would go, right?
And she's always been a commuterkid, so I've always picked her
up.
And so if I was on the phone orif I was doing something else,
it would have messed with thewhole afternoon.
It would totally change kind ofthe way we connected after
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school if I was distracted.
And the other day we were havinga conversation, and it had been,
I had connected with her twice,like brought her something at
school and then picked her up.
And both times somebody hadcalled her.
I'd had to make a quick phonecall.
And she said, like, mom, thatwas so rough that you just
weren't available.
I wanted to talk to you.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:01):
And I think that there are schools of thought
where you can, you know, tellkids to manage on their own, but
that's not how we roll in ourhouse.
I've always tried to beaccessible to her in those
moments because it was somethingthat I learned early on was
important.
So it was interesting to haveher at 15 tell me, hey, this is
important to me still.
It's important to me that we'reable to have a conversation when
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I get in the car.
And you're tuned into me, I'mtuned into you.
Because she works hard not to beon her phone.
She might need to like respondto something real quick because
she's at her phone away.
Her school doesn't allow phones,so they have their phone away
all day.
So she might have to respond tosomething real quick, but she
has her phone away.
And you know, the expectation isthat I'm gonna be engaged.
And yeah, at first, I I took thefeedback and I was like, Oh, I
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try so hard, and most days, youknow, most days I really do.
And yeah, but in that moment, Ijust had to kind of sit with it
and also just say to myself,like, I'm glad that's something
we do, and that she notices thedifference.
You know what I mean?
And I think that I would havehad a lot of guilt probably
earlier in my parenting careeraround a comment like that.
But I think at this juncture,it's been so interesting to me
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to just see the ways those smalldecisions, right?
Like you're describing, beingmindful of our own well-being
before we are ready to adapt andbe flexible for whatever walks
through the door.
SPEAKER_00 (15:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:22):
Being mindful of ourselves in those moments is
just such a huge gift we cangive our kids because it does
make such a big difference.
SPEAKER_00 (15:31):
Yeah.
And it sounds like you modeledthat so much for her, where she
can now say, Mom, I need youpresent.
I need you here with me.
I'm being present, I need youpresent.
That's beautiful.
SPEAKER_01 (15:42):
I mean, it was, and it was humbling too, because I
was just like, Yeah, I messedup.
Yep, I you're right.
I did that two times today.
Of the two times you got in thecar, I was, you know, distracted
and doing other stuff bothtimes.
And I don't say that to suggestguilt for people who don't do
that.
Right.
But what I am saying is I haveto know what I need to do to
care for myself in order to beflexible and adaptive to
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whatever situations that I'mfacing today.
I love that as kind of like thegroundwork for parenting or the
groundwork for reconnectionafter school.
SPEAKER_00 (16:14):
Yeah.
Yep.
And then also along with that isthe awareness of where we're at
energetically, is a huge one,especially.
I feel like so many parents areempaths or highly sensitive,
whatever term they may choose tofeel ways with them or registers
with them.
I mean, I'm online a lot withpodcasting and everything.
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And I feel like I hear so manyparents like, oh gosh, I'm so
exhausted.
This is so tiring.
Like, oh, it does it get betterbecause the screaming is so loud
and it's just so intense.
And and then I always want torespond, like, have you looked
at a highly sensitive person?
Have you thought about lookinginto being a highly sensitive
mom?
Have you looked at any of this?
Because it sounds like maybe youneed a little time, a couple
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minutes by yourself, or maybeyou could put in some headphones
if it's really loud when you'rewashing dishes and you're trying
to recharge for that minute, orall these different pieces.
But yes, I think that awarenessof where we're at energetically,
if our capacity bucket hasenough room or space for the
demands that are going to comefrom the day, if we're
energetically available, or Ialso say, like if our energy
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level is up here when we'repicking them up, versus if we've
had a long day, maybe we're downhere.
And maybe we do need to postponethe phone calls that we need to
make so we can try to refill aswe're getting to school.
Maybe we're sitting in the carmeditating before the kids come
out.
Maybe we're sitting in the carand sitting with some crystals
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and saying some affirmationslike, thank you for the
challenges lately.
I am ready for what is to comethis afternoon.
I am feeling whole and ready tosee my kids and connect with
them.
So yeah, I think monitoring ourenergy level is so important.
SPEAKER_01 (17:56):
Yeah, no, I love that.
And can you share a few morethings?
I'd love to hear more of thethings you do to modulate your
energy and to create this senseof mindfulness for yourself
before offering it.
Sure.
SPEAKER_00 (18:09):
Yeah.
So it's all over the internetright now, the self-care piece.
But definitely, as you talk somuch about really being mindful
and present in that self-careroutine that you choose.
But then there's also theday-to-day pieces that come up,
especially raising highlysensitive kiddos.
It can be maybe there's a lot ofscreaming during that day, and
I'm trying to figure out well,her body's just really emotional
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right now.
So I'm going to try to know whenI'm getting frustrated, like the
screaming is too much, and Ineed to switch out with my
husband or my partner, wholuckily is available for me
sometimes after work.
Like, okay, my energy is reallylow.
I need you to take a minute so Ican recharge and then we'll
switch back.
So understanding those pieces,knowing when we need to step out
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to breathe, knowing when I needto put in some headphones when
I'm washing dishes.
If I have switched off to myhusband and he's trying to brush
teeth and I can hear the chaos,but I know my system is feeling
tax from it.
I love the noise cancelingheadphones and then just
actively being present with I'mwashing my dishes, I'm feeling
the soap in my hands, all ofthese present moments that we
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can do.
For me, I love because I havekiddos with labels and such,
there is a lot of energy in ourhouse.
And I'm definitely a giverwithout always even noticing
that I'm giving.
So I have to do a lot ofmeditation at night for myself.
I do Reiki on myself.
Reiki level two has reallyhelped me to recharge my energy.
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The podcast is actually a piecewhere I can find my flow state
and I can feel like Carrieinstead of mom.
I'm Carrie for a few minutes,which is beautiful.
So that's another one.
And I myself go to a weeklyQigong class in person, and it's
like movement with energy, withmoving meditation, basically,
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with some energy work.
And that's a beautiful placewhere I get to connect with
others and recharge too.
SPEAKER_01 (20:05):
Oh, thanks for sharing those.
Such great experiences.
And I also appreciate that itlooks different day to day,
right?
Like I'm such a proponent of abreathing practice regularly,
right?
And I'll I say, like those twominutes, I'm different without
them in the morning, even ifit's just breathing for two.
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I would love to go longer thanthat, but even just two, right?
Yeah, it makes such a hugedifference.
But just the recognition thatevery day there's gonna be
different things that we can do,right?
And while consistency isimportant, like the the
intention to incorporate someaspect of mindfulness into our
day, right?
Or some piece of self-care intoour world, I feel like that's a
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piece that again, initially Iwould feel guilty about if I
didn't do it a certain way,right?
Or if I didn't do the same thingevery day, or if I wasn't
showing up 100% as great as Icould because I missed my
self-care practices, I wouldreally kind of give myself a
hard time until recognizing thatthe whole point of the self-care
practice is thatself-compassion, right?
And the ability to adapt towhat's in front of us.
SPEAKER_00 (21:13):
You know, it's interesting too.
I forgot to mention, I love tomodel it for my kids.
So we talk about energy in ourhouse.
One example is if we went to theshoe store and had to go to
three different shoe storesbecause my sensitive kids needed
specific shoes.
Then we get home and my kiddoswant me to play with them right
away.
Having boundaries and thenexplaining why I have to have
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those boundaries to my kids isso important.
I never saw that as a child.
I never saw what boundaries looklike.
I never knew about energy as akiddo.
And so now I'm explaining it tomy kids.
Mom's energy was up here beforewe went to the shoe store.
You know, we went to severalplaces.
So I'm kind of feeling a littledrained.
I'm down here now.
But if you give mom fiveminutes, you go play with your
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toys.
Mom's gonna lay down for fiveminutes, she's gonna meditate,
she's gonna be back up here, andthen I can be actively present
and we can really have funplaying after I'm done with my
time.
So that's one I love to sharewith them.
SPEAKER_01 (22:10):
Yes.
Oh, yeah, that's so great.
And it is like the permission,right?
It feels a little diceysometimes as a parent because if
it's not what's been modeled forus or if it's not what we're
used to, we're like, is thisokay to say?
I mean, but then when we do andwe notice and our people notice
the difference when we engageagain, it not only gives us
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permission to take the time weneed, but I also think it gives
them permission to state theirreality, the words they can use,
the options for self-care, likego take a five minute, you know,
lay down for five and meditate,or those kind of things.
We're giving them so many thingsin terms of current day and
future skills in those moments.
SPEAKER_00 (22:49):
Oh, yes.
Yes.
And, you know, I've been aformer speech therapist, I've
used so many therapies with mykids.
We've run the gamut with all thedifferent therapies with our
labels and the energy work andthe mindfulness, like which you
talk about so much.
I feel like the energy worklately for my kids.
I've even had therapists whohave I've gone to have been
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like, well, this is this is ourbackground.
This is the therapy we've donein the past.
What could you do for us?
And they're like, I don't thinkI could do anything else.
I don't think there's much else.
I'm like, oh, sorry.
Wow.
Yeah.
I love it.
Like, I love it.
Okay.
Well, so I guess we're gonnalook at some other energy work
type things.
We're gonna look at Reiki.
We're gonna look at teaching mykids energy work and teaching my
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kids what being an empath is.
And sometimes it comes upwithout you even realizing it.
But it's been, it's been sowonderful to even teach my
six-year-old how we are energy,others are energy, plants have
energy, we're all made up ofenergy.
And then when we go out toschool and we're talking to
somebody, sometimes anotherperson maybe could be telling
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you a story.
And without realizing it,they're putting their energy and
their feelings on you.
And you're absorbing it withoutrealizing it, because that's how
we are sometimes when we'resuper sensitive.
And so just teaching my kiddosto be aware of it, both of my
kids were doing it withoutrealizing it.
And they would tell me storieslike, okay, so I was so and so
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was having a meltdown.
And then I sat with him and Iwas talking to him, and I could
feel I was absorbing his anger.
I was feeling it.
Mom, I'm like, wow, dude, you'renine and you're explaining that
to me.
I'm so happy you helped them.
But also, how did you feel?
Did you feel really tired orangry after that?
What was that like?
So having those conversations,and then recently we've also
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been teaching them how toprotect their own energies.
And so one thing that's reallyworked for us is I taught them.
We're gonna talk about a whitelight going around you.
We're gonna picture it goingaround all the way down,
spiraling around you.
And then we're gonna picture agolden light.
And that's a golden light ofprotection we're picturing
spiraling down.
Then we're gonna picture ourroots growing way down in the
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ground so we can stay groundedin our body.
And we're gonna say thisaffirmation for ourselves: no
negative energy allowed, onlypositive energy.
And so I would say that and Itaught them that.
And recently my friend had meadd the roots part because I was
like, My kids aren't grounded,they're not staying grounded in
their bodies.
And she was like, You need theroots.
I'm like, okay, so we're gonnaadd that.
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But so now I'll say, White andgold light when they're on their
way out the door to school, I'llsay, white light, picture gold
light, and then I hear themrecite the mantra or the
affirmation as they're headingout to the car.
My daughter had a moment whereshe was taking on somebody's
sadness.
She told me later on afterschool, mom, somebody was
telling me a story and I wasfeeling sad for them.
(25:43):
And then I felt, oh, I'm feelingit in my heart.
I'm really feeling all of theirsadness.
So she said, I did the white andgold light, and I said the
mantra, and it stopped.
And I felt better, mom.
I was like, wow, a six-year-oldcan do this too, guys.
I love it.
SPEAKER_01 (25:58):
Yes, I love that.
And I what one of the things Ithink I've said I love that
about 50 times today now aboutour conversation.
One of the things I especiallyappreciate is the shared
reference, right?
And when I'm working withfamilies and we're talking about
mindfulness tools, I we'resharing a lot of stories or like
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metaphors.
And then it's like what yousaid, like gold light, white
light.
Like when you can refer quicklyto like something you have
shared reference of, I feel likethose are the moments that are
so powerful because you don'thave to have a really long
conversation, especially in themoments when you're like in
transition, when a lot of thatstuff comes up, right?
(26:40):
Like they're getting out thedoor of the car and they're
telling you about this thingthat just happened that they're
worried about today later.
They're worried about thisfriend that had this going on
and you don't have like 10 moreminutes.
I mean, you do if you reallyneed it, you could just keep
them in the car, right?
But a lot of times when stuffcomes up and you don't have a
huge amount of time to kind ofsift and process.
But if you can refer to thosequick tools and you can be like,
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this is one we've practiced, youknow, but you just refer to it
briefly and then they can applyit, that's magic.
SPEAKER_00 (27:10):
Yeah, I love the briefly, or even like having it
in the routine too.
We've been doing like the guideof meditations at night, and I
do a lot of similar things withthe white and the gold light and
clearing energy.
I'm really noticing that thosetypes of things really help our
kids to shake off the day.
There's even the one where youwalk into your car and you can
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just be like bouncing with them,or you turn on music when you
first get in the car and you'rebouncing.
I learned it in Qigong.
It was like shake off thatenergy of that day.
And I even started carrying acontainer of crystal bracelets.
What are you drawn to, guys?
Let's put that crystal braceleton today.
It started last week when my sonhad to take the state
assessments and he was just wornout at pickup.
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I was like, okay, let's get inthe car.
Which bracelet are you drawn to?
You don't have to wear it, youcan just hold it.
Let's try to recharge our heartsafter that long day.
SPEAKER_01 (28:01):
Yeah.
Tell me more about the guidingmeditations that you use at
night.
SPEAKER_00 (28:06):
Yeah.
So I've been reading, I lovethis book.
What is it?
Psychic psychology.
And so I've been picking uppieces of it for myself.
And then I started noticing mykids had a lot of energy after
their day that they had to shiftthrough.
And so we love one of the basicsthat you can do with your kids
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is you picture a green ball oflight.
You would want to do it in yourroot chakra, but I teach my kids
at the tops of your legs, youpicture a green ball of light.
And then it's going to gospinning straight down into the
core of the earth.
And I'll like walk them throughit.
You'll start with the deepbreathing.
You know, you can add all themeditation pieces onto there for
them.
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But once we get that green ballstraight down into the earth, it
creates a green tube.
And then we breathe in and webreathe out all the energy of
the day and we send it all theway down deep into the earth
because the earth can absorb itand she can handle it and she
can take on a lot of the, we saybig emotions, big feelings, any
big feelings we have to process,we blow into the earth and we do
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that a couple of times.
And then you can bring in greenballs of energy from the earth.
You can bring it into yourstomach and then send it to
every cell in your body.
You can picture that.
So sometimes we'll do thatafterwards, or sometimes we'll
picture golden light from thesun coming down, and I'll have
them, I'll work through itcoming down, surrounding their
whole body, or going throughevery cell of their body.
We like to do those as well.
(29:29):
And so I started putting thoseon our Friday episodes on the
podcast.
I love it.
I was like, I gotta start tryingthese out for our kids.
And then I'm starting to startgoing into some of the chakra
work too.
So teaching them to balancetheir chakras.
But that's kind of new, so we'resettling into that.
SPEAKER_01 (29:47):
Yeah.
I think it's so fascinating,like at the juncture we are,
where we can synthesize so manyof these practices, right?
And they can become stronger andjust like intertwined.
With other practices to createthe level of resilience that I
think modern kids need for thelife that they're navigating.
(30:08):
And I think one of the thingsthat's interesting is with the
onslaught of information, withthe increased stimulation, being
able to avail ourselves of theincreased awareness of the tools
that are accessible, of thepractices that people have used
for ages, and being able tobring those in to balance out
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the level of chaos we may feelexternal to us or internal to
us.
There's something reallybeautiful about that to me.
SPEAKER_00 (30:36):
Yeah.
I think about if we would havegrown up with that as children,
where would we have been asparents too?
Instead of having to kind ofrediscover, reteach ourselves
all of these things.
Just I think that's part of mymission is helping these kids
who are born with so manyamazing gifts, or we call them
superpowers in our house, theseheightened sensitivities and
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teaching them to empowerthemselves and feel empowered in
these heightened sensitivities,which society can sometimes make
us feel feel bad about it.
I know my husband and I wereboth sensitive kids, and we were
not allowed to be what was theterm Brene Brown says, high
maintenance children.
We weren't allowed to be highmaintenance kids.
And so, of course, going throughthat inner child work for
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ourselves as parents, butallowing our kids to be those
high maintenance kids andfeeling their feelings and big
emotions.
But yeah, learning how toprocess all of this now will
take them to so many greatplaces.
SPEAKER_01 (31:33):
Yeah.
Like if that's the foundationyou build on, what can you build
from there?
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to ask you a couple morequestions before you go.
Are there any other spiritualpractices you want to share that
your family does that you feellike are supportive for
everyone?
SPEAKER_00 (31:50):
Yeah.
I think a lot of the mindfulnesstools that you often talk about
has been a huge piece, focusingon the change we want to see in
life instead of living in thechallenge.
So, you know, we oftentimes havethat anchor pulling us down of
the challenge of the day.
But for example, every time wewant to go to the zoo on a field
trip with both of my kids, it'salways rainy.
(32:14):
Let's not focus on the rain.
Let's get on the proper gearbecause it's Colorado and you
never know, 10 minutes later,the sun could come out here.
And so packing the sunscreentoo.
We're focusing on the weather wewant to see.
We're not living in the sadnessof the day, the weather of that
day.
And then we talk a lot in ourhouse about the magnetism of the
energy that we put out is alsowhat we receive.
(32:37):
So if somebody was rude to us orsomething, really just sending
them love.
Like they need love in theirlife for that reason.
We're going to send them lovebecause love is what I want to
receive too.
So that's some of the fun ones.
I take them to a spiritualcenter in Colorado near where we
live, and just building thatcommunity of like-minding kids.
And that even ended up taking usto a social emotional focused
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school with project-basedlearning, too.
So that's been a huge gamechanger for us.
SPEAKER_01 (33:06):
Yeah.
No, I love that like that RobertFrost poem, Two Roads Converged
in Yellowwood, and how he talksabout like knowing how way leads
on to way, like the places youend up when you start to live
more mindfully, it really kindof shifts the trajectory in so
many things.
Whereas, like in the poem, hesays, you know, maybe I'll save
that other trail for anotherday, you know, the path he
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doesn't take.
But then he's like, But knowinghow way leads on to way, like, I
doubt it I'll ever get back tothat spot, right?
Because I'm gonna be led toother things as I follow this
path.
So I love that.
SPEAKER_00 (33:37):
Beautiful.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (33:38):
That that's been your experience.
SPEAKER_00 (33:40):
Oh, 100%.
And yeah, the kids definitelyfeel it.
It's it's been the biggest gamechanger in our house versus all
the therapies that we have had.
SPEAKER_01 (33:50):
That's beautiful.
I can relate to that too.
I have a number of clients whowere like, I've tried this and
this, and just mindfulness hasworked better than any of those
things, you know.
My daughter the other day hadgone in.
There was a lot going on atschool, and her friend was
having some struggles with somedifferent stuff.
And so they'd gone in and talkedto the counselor for a minute,
and she was like, wasn't evenhelpful at all.
(34:12):
And I'm a proponent of kidstalking to counselors, you know,
definitely.
And I thought it was great thatshe'd gone in there, but she's
like, she's just telling mestuff that I already thought of
that didn't help the situation.
So I figured out how to workthrough it on my own, you know?
That's cute.
But she had started, you know,the counselor in her very kind,
well-meaning way, had startedout with trying to help my
daughter have empathy for theother person in the exchange.
(34:34):
Yeah, and my daughter has loadsof that, and so doesn't
necessarily need more.
But what was beautiful to me inthat moment was that she was
just like, This is not the timefor empathy, this is a time for
a boundary, and I need you tohelp me set a boundary.
If you're not gonna do that, Ineed different help, you know.
And she didn't say it to her inthose words, but that's what she
said to me.
She was like, I don't needempathy, I need a boundary.
(34:54):
And I was like, Okay, but she,you know, like being present in
the moment she was in, she couldaccess her own innate wisdom
about it, also knowing herselfand the situation and how she
was feeling.
It was a stark contrast to herto be faced with someone who was
telling her to ignore this infavor of an expert opinion about
the situation.
She's like, No, no, no, I'm theexpert here.
(35:17):
So that's what mindfulness does,right?
It makes kids the expert ofthemselves.
And as challenging as that canbe to parents sometimes, the
potential that comes from thattype of awareness and that type
of internal strength is a thingto behold.
SPEAKER_00 (35:35):
Yeah, that's beautiful.
I once had a guest on thepodcast, and she had mentioned
that she grew up spiritually,and I was like, Oh, yeah, I did
too.
My grandma would put like EdgarCasey, Eckhart Tolle books on my
nightstand when I was growing upin my 20s.
And she was like, No, no, no.
My parents taught me how to tuneinto myself and how to connect
with myself and how to meditateand hear my inner guidance.
(35:58):
And I was like, Oh, that's sobeautiful.
That is such a better way to putit.
I love that.
SPEAKER_01 (36:04):
Talk to me about friendship.
This is like a slight departurefrom what we were just talking
about, but sometimes when kiddoshave a different level of
sensitivity, what like thefriendship dynamics can be
interesting.
How do you explain friendship toyour kiddos or to kids who are
on the more sensitive side?
SPEAKER_00 (36:22):
Yeah, I think you know, it's been it's been
interesting because yeah, I dohave two sensitive kiddos and
they are very set in their ownways.
They want to not be told how tolive, they want to experience
things and they're very adamantabout that.
So when we're talking aboutfriendship, I often will ask
them questions and how they'refeeling.
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How does that feel when such andsuch happens to you?
What do you think you would liketo change?
That's been a huge piece of it.
And then also, I use a lot of myown versions of things that have
happened to me as a sensitiveperson.
And I like to share with thatoften things like what a good
friend looks like, what lovelooks like in a friendship, what
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compassion and acceptance looklike in a friendship.
I love to tell stories to giveexamples of what that may mean
for them.
Or I'll give an example like onetime I had a meltdown as a
friend.
And my friend was really takenaback because I was a little bit
abrasive in my meltdown.
Later on, I felt like thatfriend was pretty much done.
(37:29):
She didn't want to be a friendanymore.
And I had apologized andexplained, but she was done.
Do you think that was a goodfriend moment?
Do you think that we wereconnected in our friendship?
And so we use examples like thatand we really discuss it openly,
especially with the bigger kiddowho's almost 10.
SPEAKER_01 (37:45):
Yeah, having the skill set as one that's being
cultivated actively withconversation, with awareness,
with tools when needed, orquestions to help support the
growth of the child and thefriendships.
SPEAKER_00 (37:57):
It's definitely been a big one.
And it has been interestingbecause I have a son and a
daughter, and I feel like withmy son, it energetically has
been so much easier for him.
And they're very similar kids.
So it was interesting to see thedifference with the boys versus
the girls and really how muchmore we talk about it with our
daughter than we do with ourson.
SPEAKER_01 (38:16):
Yeah, so many different dynamics there.
SPEAKER_00 (38:19):
Yeah.
So that's been interesting.
It's definitely a lot ofreflection and how she's feeling
and how she feels with otherpeople.
I was so surprised, even infirst grade, like how it comes
up, how we wouldn't want to eversay anything about anybody else.
How my daughter was really beingexposed to that very quickly.
And I was like, this is notsomething we had been prepared
(38:39):
for.
But yeah, it came up so quickly.
And so we talk so much aboutloving one another for who we
are and seeing that love inothers and giving people second
chances.
And that's been a huge piece offirst grade.
SPEAKER_01 (38:52):
Yes, so many social skills to learn.
SPEAKER_00 (38:55):
Yeah, for sure.
So many.
SPEAKER_01 (38:57):
Well, Carrie, this has been so lovely.
Thank you for all the insightsyou've shared and for just the
way you show up in the world.
I know I sure appreciate it.
SPEAKER_00 (39:07):
Thank you for having me.
It's been such a lovely chat,and it's fun to connect with you
in two different spaces.
SPEAKER_01 (39:12):
Yeah.
No, I feel the same way.
Help our listeners know how theycan learn more about you.
Let's, you know, share yourpodcast so that we can have
people find you there.
SPEAKER_00 (39:23):
Definitely.
So our website ishearttoheartlife.com, and the
podcast is Heart toHeartParents.
It's on Apple, Spotify, YouTube,and we're on Instagram a lot
posting fun affirmations, parentmantras, and all of those things
to keep us connected withourselves.
SPEAKER_01 (39:42):
I've loved listening since you and I connected.
Just like the gentle andinsightful conversations, I find
myself enriched by them.
So thank you for all that youdo.
SPEAKER_00 (39:51):
Thank you so much.
That's such an inspiration tohear.
SPEAKER_01 (39:55):
Well, thanks again for being on the show.
And I look forward to talking toyou again soon.
Thanks.
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grace.
Welcome to the Stress Nanny, the podcast where
we take the overwhelm out ofparenting and help kids and
parents build calm, confidence,and connection.
I'm your host, Lindsay Miller,Kids Mindfulness Coach and
Cheerleader for Busy FamiliesEverywhere.
Each week we'll explore simpletools, uplifting stories, and
practical strategies to helpyour child learn emotional
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regulation, resilience, andself-confidence, while giving
you a little more peace of mindtoo.
I'm so glad you're here.
My guest today is CarrieLingenfelter.
Carrie is a former speechtherapist turned conscious
parenting advocate, podcasthost, and change maker.
As the host of the Heart toHeart Parents Podcast, she
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empowers parents with mindfuland spiritual tools to raise
emotionally intelligent,compassionate children.
As a mother of two, Carrie drawsfrom her personal journey of
overcoming anxiety,perfectionism, and parenting
burnout to inspire parents tostep into their power.
Her mission is to support changemakers raising change makers by
fostering self-awareness,emotional growth, and spiritual
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connection within families.
Carrie, thanks so much forjoining me today.
I am excited for ourconversation.
Thanks so much for having me,Lindsay.
I'm so excited to connect.
SPEAKER_00 (01:48):
Yeah, for sure.
So for a little background, Iwas a speech therapist, early
intervention, so birth to agethree.
And I also was a first gradeteacher before I had kids.
And when I had kids, I had toldmy husband, I've got it.
I'm a child specialist.
No need to worry.
Like, I've got it.
I'm ready to be a mom.
And as soon as I became a mom,all of that went out the window.
(02:09):
I suddenly started to realize Iwould get into my head a lot.
And each child is obviously sodifferent.
But when you have your own, ityou really do understand that in
a new way, versus being ateacher or speech therapist.
So it quickly became clear thatI needed to find new ideas and
new ways to connect.
And luckily, I had spiritualpeople around me, my mom and
(02:32):
other friends and mygrandmother.
I was raised spiritually.
And so just having them there tohelp me ground in myself and
reconnect with myself reallyhelped me to put away some of
the parenting books, put awaysome of the expectations that I
had for myself and that I hadread online that I needed to
have for myself as a mom and howto even just follow a sleep
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schedule was like putting thataway.
And that was not for us.
So learning to follow my kidsand follow my inner guidance was
something that I have beenlearning and growing in for
almost 10 years now.
My son's turning 10 next month.
So yeah, so that's where thatbackground came from.
Spirituality has always been abig part of my life.
And as we grow from sensitivekids, like I was a sensitive
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child into an adult, sometimesit can be hard to come back to
the way that we connected withourselves.
And so as a parent, that helpedme to find myself again and find
that for myself to startpracticing again after being a
know it all in my early 20s.
No, I'm just kidding.
But um, you know, you'redeveloping into your own.
(03:41):
And so you sometimes stray fromwhat you originally had as a
foundation in life.
So finding that again for myselfwas really powerful.
And then as my kids got older,we started to realize that there
were some neurodiverse pieces.
They're gifted and talented, andthey have other labels as well.
I love to say my kids aregifted, spirited, and highly
sensitive.
(04:01):
So I ended up starting thepodcast to help other parents so
they didn't feel alone in thisjourney of hearing ourselves,
finding what we need for ourkids, finding the strengths in
our children, helping ourchildren to see those strengths
in themselves, and then workingto keep them conscious and
connected to themselves intoparenthood or into adulthood.
SPEAKER_01 (04:22):
Yeah, I love that.
Thanks for sharing thosesnippets.
And I think too, I reallyresonate with your perspective
around feeling a level of booklearning or experience going
into parenting, and thenrecognizing once you get there
that there's a lot of flying bythe seat of your pants and just
being able to adapt and havethat flexibility in the moment.
(04:44):
And I love the differentelements that you've
incorporated into obviously yourpodcast and then also, you know,
just your life that allow youthe flexibility you needed to
parent the kids that you have inthe time that you live, in the
circumstances that you findyourself.
SPEAKER_00 (05:00):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's really been a journey andit's been really fun to kind of
let go of the reins and seewhere I'm guided.
I know definitely when I firststarted my podcast, I was on the
side of more evidence-basedpractice and theory, just
learning that in grad school somuch and having that so heavy in
grad school.
And then I would physically,physically receive it from the
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universe, like, nope, youdefinitely need to jump in full,
jump in full into the deep endof the mindfulness and the
spirituality and all thesepieces.
And yeah, once I did it, it waslike all of that relief that
came over me.
It was like, whoa, this is meantto be.
This is where I need to be at.
And I'm finding so many peoplereally want that in their lives
(05:45):
too.
SPEAKER_01 (05:46):
Yeah, no, I love that.
And I think you and I talkedabout it on your show when we
did our interview, but just therecognition that being fully
present and cultivating theability to be fully present
allows the wisdom either thatyou've learned, that you've
heard, that's within you, that'swithin your kids, that's all
around us, that wisdom to findyou.
(06:08):
Like that's the present momentis where it finds you.
And so if we're like spinningoff into the far reaches of our
worries or last week or nextmonth, it's really tricky to
access the vast wisdom that'saccessible only if we can tune
into right now.
SPEAKER_00 (06:27):
Ooh, 100%.
Yes.
And then think about if we'reteaching our kids that it's it's
so empowering for them,especially so many kids coming
into the world right now andgetting labels.
It's so common for so many ofthese kids.
And then hearing those labels,like, what does that do to us as
we're growing?
We can get so in your head soquickly.
(06:49):
So that's been really empoweringfor my kids.
We will say sensitive, we willsay gifted, we'll say, oh, my
brain works really, really fastand really, really hard.
So sometimes I can be a littlemore nervous than others because
my brain goes so quickly.
So yeah, naming all thosepieces.
I love that empowering.
SPEAKER_01 (07:05):
No, I agree a hundred percent.
And I want to go there for aminute because I really love the
language that you use.
Just for a bit of background, mylisteners have heard this story
before.
But when I was doing aninternship in college, I was
interning in a resourceclassroom and I had kids with a
variety of language or labels,and the language we used in the
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classroom, like it was sojarring to me, right?
And I'm just this new littleintern, but I was just like,
we're actually talking aboutpeople here.
And it was just like no nodisrespect to any of my
coworkers at the time, right?
It was just the language ofschool, you know, and how we
referred to certain disorders ordisabilities or all of the diss
(07:47):
things, you know.
It was so alarming to me to comein and see the way that the kids
responded to that label becauseI had a fresh outlook on it.
And I was just noticing we arenot doing them any favors by
using these terms to describethem because they're coming with
this whole massive weight.
And I agree that we can beserved by the label, right?
(08:09):
It helps us narrow things down,it helps us like know what
support is going to be the mosteffective, it helps us really
understand ourselves better.
And so in those ways, the labelcan serve, but it has to be like
gently cradled, right?
And it has to be like a thingthat we are intentional about
referring to instead of thisthing that's just like weighing
this poor kid down and makingthem feel like they've got like
(08:33):
something they're tugging aroundwith them everywhere they go
that automatically sets them,you know, like apart or back or
aside from the other kids.
So talk to me about yourexperience there.
When you were in this realm as aprofessional, were you also one
of the people who were like, no,no, no, let's refer to this a
little differently?
Because when I went in thatclassroom every day, I'd be
(08:55):
like, we're not talking aboutyou that way.
Like we're talking about you inthis moment right here, as you
are, with the incredible skillsand gifts that you're bringing
to right now.
And I don't care what your labelis, insofar as like it affects
your self-worth, because that'sa constant for me.
And I don't think any label isgonna change that.
So let's start there, you know?
And so that was how I approachedthe kids in the classroom.
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And we respected the label andworked with the label, but I
didn't let them be defined byit.
So talk to me about your journeyto that realization.
SPEAKER_00 (09:25):
Yeah, you know, it's almost a little bit of a gift
that I started out in earlyintervention with my speech
therapy after going through myprogram because I feel like in
the early intervention programthat I worked at in Colorado, we
really looked at the wholechild.
So it was so cool because youare instead of writing IEPs,
you're writing, I think it wasIFSP, so family plans.
SPEAKER_01 (09:49):
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (09:50):
So you're talking about the strengths, you're
talking about the challenges,you're looking social,
emotional, physical, mental.
You're looking at all thesedifferent areas.
And isn't that cool?
Wouldn't that be cool if we didthat in our schools when they're
older?
Right.
So that part was really neat.
And I did this before I evenrealized it.
I wasn't a mom yet, but I wasn'tchoosing to talk about naming
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the labels, like your child hasan expressive language disorder
or delay.
And I would just focus on theneeds that they were seeing in
that day.
I was focusing on what is itthat you want your child to do?
We would break it down to whatis it that we can focus on
today?
And, you know, it was reallyfunny, but I was I was drawn to
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the different, the differenttechniques from my heart.
And I didn't really, because Ihad my back of tricks, all of
the techniques, but I would gointo a house and I wouldn't know
ahead of time until I got therethat this child is needing this
one.
This child is needing theparent.
And I would see the family and Iwould see, okay, the family is
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really wanting this child totalk, but I need to have the
parents slow down because thatchild is picking up that energy
and that intensity and thatpressure of like, say it now,
say it now.
We need you to talk because it'sreally frustrating.
So that was a huge piece wasjust getting everybody to slow
down, release that pressure,calm themselves down.
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It's interesting.
SPEAKER_01 (11:16):
Yeah, no, I love that.
And I think that it's such aninteresting perspective because
you could have the neutrality.
Because it is, like youmentioned uh just a minute ago,
when it's your own kid andyou're watching something that's
maybe not going the way you wantit to, you're as a parent
feeling the things, right?
And so there's there's not a I'mnot gonna feel option, right?
(11:39):
Like especially for parents whotend to be more sensitive.
But like there's as parents,we're just invested in our kids
in a different way than anyoneelse is.
And so you having thatexperience in a neutral setting
and then being able to apply itin your own home, that's so
beautiful to me.
SPEAKER_00 (11:56):
Well, I could definitely practice it outside
of my home when I came into myhome.
It was a different story, right?
Because you're so emotionallyinvolved and so emotionally
wrapped up in it, yeah, that itreally took a lot of.
I always say, like, even themost spiritual guru you can
think about, like Ed Cartoli isa big guy.
Even people like that, do theypractice what they preach?
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I don't know what goes on on theinside, but I'm always saying,
you find your system that workswell for you because we're all
human.
And when we're raising children,we never know what's coming.
We never know.
I always even say, when our kidsare coming out of school, we
never know what is coming out ofthe door.
Did they have a great day?
Are they exhausted?
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Are they sick?
Are they breaking down becausesomebody hurt their feelings?
Like you never know what'scoming.
So having all of these tools andtricks and ways to energize
ourselves, self-care, all ofthese pieces in our pocket
before we even get to school topick up our kids, is so
important.
SPEAKER_01 (12:58):
Yeah, I love that so much too, because I think you're
right.
And again, it's this idea ofpresence, right?
It's the mindfulness allows usto be in this moment.
And I like to describemindfulness as like knowing
what's going on inside of you,knowing what's going on outside
of you, and then making a choiceon purpose.
So, in those moments, likeyou're saying, before kiddos
come home, I know, like Ilearned when my daughter was
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younger how my own distractioninfluenced how the shift into
home would go, right?
And she's always been a commuterkid, so I've always picked her
up.
And so if I was on the phone orif I was doing something else,
it would have messed with thewhole afternoon.
It would totally change kind ofthe way we connected after
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school if I was distracted.
And the other day we were havinga conversation, and it had been,
I had connected with her twice,like brought her something at
school and then picked her up.
And both times somebody hadcalled her.
I'd had to make a quick phonecall.
And she said, like, mom, thatwas so rough that you just
weren't available.
I wanted to talk to you.
unknown (14:01):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (14:01):
And I think that there are schools of thought
where you can, you know, tellkids to manage on their own, but
that's not how we roll in ourhouse.
I've always tried to beaccessible to her in those
moments because it was somethingthat I learned early on was
important.
So it was interesting to haveher at 15 tell me, hey, this is
important to me still.
It's important to me that we'reable to have a conversation when
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I get in the car.
And you're tuned into me, I'mtuned into you.
Because she works hard not to beon her phone.
She might need to like respondto something real quick because
she's at her phone away.
Her school doesn't allow phones,so they have their phone away
all day.
So she might have to respond tosomething real quick, but she
has her phone away.
And you know, the expectation isthat I'm gonna be engaged.
And yeah, at first, I I took thefeedback and I was like, Oh, I
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try so hard, and most days, youknow, most days I really do.
And yeah, but in that moment, Ijust had to kind of sit with it
and also just say to myself,like, I'm glad that's something
we do, and that she notices thedifference.
You know what I mean?
And I think that I would havehad a lot of guilt probably
earlier in my parenting careeraround a comment like that.
But I think at this juncture,it's been so interesting to me
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to just see the ways those smalldecisions, right?
Like you're describing, beingmindful of our own well-being
before we are ready to adapt andbe flexible for whatever walks
through the door.
SPEAKER_00 (15:22):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (15:22):
Being mindful of ourselves in those moments is
just such a huge gift we cangive our kids because it does
make such a big difference.
SPEAKER_00 (15:31):
Yeah.
And it sounds like you modeledthat so much for her, where she
can now say, Mom, I need youpresent.
I need you here with me.
I'm being present, I need youpresent.
That's beautiful.
SPEAKER_01 (15:42):
I mean, it was, and it was humbling too, because I
was just like, Yeah, I messedup.
Yep, I you're right.
I did that two times today.
Of the two times you got in thecar, I was, you know, distracted
and doing other stuff bothtimes.
And I don't say that to suggestguilt for people who don't do
that.
Right.
But what I am saying is I haveto know what I need to do to
care for myself in order to beflexible and adaptive to
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whatever situations that I'mfacing today.
I love that as kind of like thegroundwork for parenting or the
groundwork for reconnectionafter school.
SPEAKER_00 (16:14):
Yeah.
Yep.
And then also along with that isthe awareness of where we're at
energetically, is a huge one,especially.
I feel like so many parents areempaths or highly sensitive,
whatever term they may choose tofeel ways with them or registers
with them.
I mean, I'm online a lot withpodcasting and everything.
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And I feel like I hear so manyparents like, oh gosh, I'm so
exhausted.
This is so tiring.
Like, oh, it does it get betterbecause the screaming is so loud
and it's just so intense.
And and then I always want torespond, like, have you looked
at a highly sensitive person?
Have you thought about lookinginto being a highly sensitive
mom?
Have you looked at any of this?
Because it sounds like maybe youneed a little time, a couple
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minutes by yourself, or maybeyou could put in some headphones
if it's really loud when you'rewashing dishes and you're trying
to recharge for that minute, orall these different pieces.
But yes, I think that awarenessof where we're at energetically,
if our capacity bucket hasenough room or space for the
demands that are going to comefrom the day, if we're
energetically available, or Ialso say, like if our energy
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level is up here when we'repicking them up, versus if we've
had a long day, maybe we're downhere.
And maybe we do need to postponethe phone calls that we need to
make so we can try to refill aswe're getting to school.
Maybe we're sitting in the carmeditating before the kids come
out.
Maybe we're sitting in the carand sitting with some crystals
(17:41):
and saying some affirmationslike, thank you for the
challenges lately.
I am ready for what is to comethis afternoon.
I am feeling whole and ready tosee my kids and connect with
them.
So yeah, I think monitoring ourenergy level is so important.
SPEAKER_01 (17:56):
Yeah, no, I love that.
And can you share a few morethings?
I'd love to hear more of thethings you do to modulate your
energy and to create this senseof mindfulness for yourself
before offering it.
Sure.
SPEAKER_00 (18:09):
Yeah.
So it's all over the internetright now, the self-care piece.
But definitely, as you talk somuch about really being mindful
and present in that self-careroutine that you choose.
But then there's also theday-to-day pieces that come up,
especially raising highlysensitive kiddos.
It can be maybe there's a lot ofscreaming during that day, and
I'm trying to figure out well,her body's just really emotional
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right now.
So I'm going to try to know whenI'm getting frustrated, like the
screaming is too much, and Ineed to switch out with my
husband or my partner, wholuckily is available for me
sometimes after work.
Like, okay, my energy is reallylow.
I need you to take a minute so Ican recharge and then we'll
switch back.
So understanding those pieces,knowing when we need to step out
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to breathe, knowing when I needto put in some headphones when
I'm washing dishes.
If I have switched off to myhusband and he's trying to brush
teeth and I can hear the chaos,but I know my system is feeling
tax from it.
I love the noise cancelingheadphones and then just
actively being present with I'mwashing my dishes, I'm feeling
the soap in my hands, all ofthese present moments that we
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can do.
For me, I love because I havekiddos with labels and such,
there is a lot of energy in ourhouse.
And I'm definitely a giverwithout always even noticing
that I'm giving.
So I have to do a lot ofmeditation at night for myself.
I do Reiki on myself.
Reiki level two has reallyhelped me to recharge my energy.
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The podcast is actually a piecewhere I can find my flow state
and I can feel like Carrieinstead of mom.
I'm Carrie for a few minutes,which is beautiful.
So that's another one.
And I myself go to a weeklyQigong class in person, and it's
like movement with energy, withmoving meditation, basically,
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with some energy work.
And that's a beautiful placewhere I get to connect with
others and recharge too.
SPEAKER_01 (20:05):
Oh, thanks for sharing those.
Such great experiences.
And I also appreciate that itlooks different day to day,
right?
Like I'm such a proponent of abreathing practice regularly,
right?
And I'll I say, like those twominutes, I'm different without
them in the morning, even ifit's just breathing for two.
(20:25):
I would love to go longer thanthat, but even just two, right?
Yeah, it makes such a hugedifference.
But just the recognition thatevery day there's gonna be
different things that we can do,right?
And while consistency isimportant, like the the
intention to incorporate someaspect of mindfulness into our
day, right?
Or some piece of self-care intoour world, I feel like that's a
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piece that again, initially Iwould feel guilty about if I
didn't do it a certain way,right?
Or if I didn't do the same thingevery day, or if I wasn't
showing up 100% as great as Icould because I missed my
self-care practices, I wouldreally kind of give myself a
hard time until recognizing thatthe whole point of the self-care
practice is thatself-compassion, right?
And the ability to adapt towhat's in front of us.
SPEAKER_00 (21:13):
You know, it's interesting too.
I forgot to mention, I love tomodel it for my kids.
So we talk about energy in ourhouse.
One example is if we went to theshoe store and had to go to
three different shoe storesbecause my sensitive kids needed
specific shoes.
Then we get home and my kiddoswant me to play with them right
away.
Having boundaries and thenexplaining why I have to have
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those boundaries to my kids isso important.
I never saw that as a child.
I never saw what boundaries looklike.
I never knew about energy as akiddo.
And so now I'm explaining it tomy kids.
Mom's energy was up here beforewe went to the shoe store.
You know, we went to severalplaces.
So I'm kind of feeling a littledrained.
I'm down here now.
But if you give mom fiveminutes, you go play with your
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toys.
Mom's gonna lay down for fiveminutes, she's gonna meditate,
she's gonna be back up here, andthen I can be actively present
and we can really have funplaying after I'm done with my
time.
So that's one I love to sharewith them.
SPEAKER_01 (22:10):
Yes.
Oh, yeah, that's so great.
And it is like the permission,right?
It feels a little diceysometimes as a parent because if
it's not what's been modeled forus or if it's not what we're
used to, we're like, is thisokay to say?
I mean, but then when we do andwe notice and our people notice
the difference when we engageagain, it not only gives us
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permission to take the time weneed, but I also think it gives
them permission to state theirreality, the words they can use,
the options for self-care, likego take a five minute, you know,
lay down for five and meditate,or those kind of things.
We're giving them so many thingsin terms of current day and
future skills in those moments.
SPEAKER_00 (22:49):
Oh, yes.
Yes.
And, you know, I've been aformer speech therapist, I've
used so many therapies with mykids.
We've run the gamut with all thedifferent therapies with our
labels and the energy work andthe mindfulness, like which you
talk about so much.
I feel like the energy worklately for my kids.
I've even had therapists whohave I've gone to have been
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like, well, this is this is ourbackground.
This is the therapy we've donein the past.
What could you do for us?
And they're like, I don't thinkI could do anything else.
I don't think there's much else.
I'm like, oh, sorry.
Wow.
Yeah.
I love it.
Like, I love it.
Okay.
Well, so I guess we're gonnalook at some other energy work
type things.
We're gonna look at Reiki.
We're gonna look at teaching mykids energy work and teaching my
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kids what being an empath is.
And sometimes it comes upwithout you even realizing it.
But it's been, it's been sowonderful to even teach my
six-year-old how we are energy,others are energy, plants have
energy, we're all made up ofenergy.
And then when we go out toschool and we're talking to
somebody, sometimes anotherperson maybe could be telling
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you a story.
And without realizing it,they're putting their energy and
their feelings on you.
And you're absorbing it withoutrealizing it, because that's how
we are sometimes when we'resuper sensitive.
And so just teaching my kiddosto be aware of it, both of my
kids were doing it withoutrealizing it.
And they would tell me storieslike, okay, so I was so and so
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was having a meltdown.
And then I sat with him and Iwas talking to him, and I could
feel I was absorbing his anger.
I was feeling it.
Mom, I'm like, wow, dude, you'renine and you're explaining that
to me.
I'm so happy you helped them.
But also, how did you feel?
Did you feel really tired orangry after that?
What was that like?
So having those conversations,and then recently we've also
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been teaching them how toprotect their own energies.
And so one thing that's reallyworked for us is I taught them.
We're gonna talk about a whitelight going around you.
We're gonna picture it goingaround all the way down,
spiraling around you.
And then we're gonna picture agolden light.
And that's a golden light ofprotection we're picturing
spiraling down.
Then we're gonna picture ourroots growing way down in the
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ground so we can stay groundedin our body.
And we're gonna say thisaffirmation for ourselves: no
negative energy allowed, onlypositive energy.
And so I would say that and Itaught them that.
And recently my friend had meadd the roots part because I was
like, My kids aren't grounded,they're not staying grounded in
their bodies.
And she was like, You need theroots.
I'm like, okay, so we're gonnaadd that.
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But so now I'll say, White andgold light when they're on their
way out the door to school, I'llsay, white light, picture gold
light, and then I hear themrecite the mantra or the
affirmation as they're headingout to the car.
My daughter had a moment whereshe was taking on somebody's
sadness.
She told me later on afterschool, mom, somebody was
telling me a story and I wasfeeling sad for them.
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And then I felt, oh, I'm feelingit in my heart.
I'm really feeling all of theirsadness.
So she said, I did the white andgold light, and I said the
mantra, and it stopped.
And I felt better, mom.
I was like, wow, a six-year-oldcan do this too, guys.
I love it.
SPEAKER_01 (25:58):
Yes, I love that.
And I what one of the things Ithink I've said I love that
about 50 times today now aboutour conversation.
One of the things I especiallyappreciate is the shared
reference, right?
And when I'm working withfamilies and we're talking about
mindfulness tools, I we'resharing a lot of stories or like
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metaphors.
And then it's like what yousaid, like gold light, white
light.
Like when you can refer quicklyto like something you have
shared reference of, I feel likethose are the moments that are
so powerful because you don'thave to have a really long
conversation, especially in themoments when you're like in
transition, when a lot of thatstuff comes up, right?
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Like they're getting out thedoor of the car and they're
telling you about this thingthat just happened that they're
worried about today later.
They're worried about thisfriend that had this going on
and you don't have like 10 moreminutes.
I mean, you do if you reallyneed it, you could just keep
them in the car, right?
But a lot of times when stuffcomes up and you don't have a
huge amount of time to kind ofsift and process.
But if you can refer to thosequick tools and you can be like,
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this is one we've practiced, youknow, but you just refer to it
briefly and then they can applyit, that's magic.
SPEAKER_00 (27:10):
Yeah, I love the briefly, or even like having it
in the routine too.
We've been doing like the guideof meditations at night, and I
do a lot of similar things withthe white and the gold light and
clearing energy.
I'm really noticing that thosetypes of things really help our
kids to shake off the day.
There's even the one where youwalk into your car and you can
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just be like bouncing with them,or you turn on music when you
first get in the car and you'rebouncing.
I learned it in Qigong.
It was like shake off thatenergy of that day.
And I even started carrying acontainer of crystal bracelets.
What are you drawn to, guys?
Let's put that crystal braceleton today.
It started last week when my sonhad to take the state
assessments and he was just wornout at pickup.
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I was like, okay, let's get inthe car.
Which bracelet are you drawn to?
You don't have to wear it, youcan just hold it.
Let's try to recharge our heartsafter that long day.
SPEAKER_01 (28:01):
Yeah.
Tell me more about the guidingmeditations that you use at
night.
SPEAKER_00 (28:06):
Yeah.
So I've been reading, I lovethis book.
What is it?
Psychic psychology.
And so I've been picking uppieces of it for myself.
And then I started noticing mykids had a lot of energy after
their day that they had to shiftthrough.
And so we love one of the basicsthat you can do with your kids
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is you picture a green ball oflight.
You would want to do it in yourroot chakra, but I teach my kids
at the tops of your legs, youpicture a green ball of light.
And then it's going to gospinning straight down into the
core of the earth.
And I'll like walk them throughit.
You'll start with the deepbreathing.
You know, you can add all themeditation pieces onto there for
them.
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But once we get that green ballstraight down into the earth, it
creates a green tube.
And then we breathe in and webreathe out all the energy of
the day and we send it all theway down deep into the earth
because the earth can absorb itand she can handle it and she
can take on a lot of the, we saybig emotions, big feelings, any
big feelings we have to process,we blow into the earth and we do
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that a couple of times.
And then you can bring in greenballs of energy from the earth.
You can bring it into yourstomach and then send it to
every cell in your body.
You can picture that.
So sometimes we'll do thatafterwards, or sometimes we'll
picture golden light from thesun coming down, and I'll have
them, I'll work through itcoming down, surrounding their
whole body, or going throughevery cell of their body.
We like to do those as well.
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And so I started putting thoseon our Friday episodes on the
podcast.
I love it.
I was like, I gotta start tryingthese out for our kids.
And then I'm starting to startgoing into some of the chakra
work too.
So teaching them to balancetheir chakras.
But that's kind of new, so we'resettling into that.
SPEAKER_01 (29:47):
Yeah.
I think it's so fascinating,like at the juncture we are,
where we can synthesize so manyof these practices, right?
And they can become stronger andjust like intertwined.
With other practices to createthe level of resilience that I
think modern kids need for thelife that they're navigating.
(30:08):
And I think one of the thingsthat's interesting is with the
onslaught of information, withthe increased stimulation, being
able to avail ourselves of theincreased awareness of the tools
that are accessible, of thepractices that people have used
for ages, and being able tobring those in to balance out
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the level of chaos we may feelexternal to us or internal to
us.
There's something reallybeautiful about that to me.
SPEAKER_00 (30:36):
Yeah.
I think about if we would havegrown up with that as children,
where would we have been asparents too?
Instead of having to kind ofrediscover, reteach ourselves
all of these things.
Just I think that's part of mymission is helping these kids
who are born with so manyamazing gifts, or we call them
superpowers in our house, theseheightened sensitivities and
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teaching them to empowerthemselves and feel empowered in
these heightened sensitivities,which society can sometimes make
us feel feel bad about it.
I know my husband and I wereboth sensitive kids, and we were
not allowed to be what was theterm Brene Brown says, high
maintenance children.
We weren't allowed to be highmaintenance kids.
And so, of course, going throughthat inner child work for
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ourselves as parents, butallowing our kids to be those
high maintenance kids andfeeling their feelings and big
emotions.
But yeah, learning how toprocess all of this now will
take them to so many greatplaces.
SPEAKER_01 (31:33):
Yeah.
Like if that's the foundationyou build on, what can you build
from there?
100%.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I want to ask you a couple morequestions before you go.
Are there any other spiritualpractices you want to share that
your family does that you feellike are supportive for
everyone?
SPEAKER_00 (31:50):
Yeah.
I think a lot of the mindfulnesstools that you often talk about
has been a huge piece, focusingon the change we want to see in
life instead of living in thechallenge.
So, you know, we oftentimes havethat anchor pulling us down of
the challenge of the day.
But for example, every time wewant to go to the zoo on a field
trip with both of my kids, it'salways rainy.
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Let's not focus on the rain.
Let's get on the proper gearbecause it's Colorado and you
never know, 10 minutes later,the sun could come out here.
And so packing the sunscreentoo.
We're focusing on the weather wewant to see.
We're not living in the sadnessof the day, the weather of that
day.
And then we talk a lot in ourhouse about the magnetism of the
energy that we put out is alsowhat we receive.
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So if somebody was rude to us orsomething, really just sending
them love.
Like they need love in theirlife for that reason.
We're going to send them lovebecause love is what I want to
receive too.
So that's some of the fun ones.
I take them to a spiritualcenter in Colorado near where we
live, and just building thatcommunity of like-minding kids.
And that even ended up taking usto a social emotional focused
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school with project-basedlearning, too.
So that's been a huge gamechanger for us.
SPEAKER_01 (33:06):
Yeah.
No, I love that like that RobertFrost poem, Two Roads Converged
in Yellowwood, and how he talksabout like knowing how way leads
on to way, like the places youend up when you start to live
more mindfully, it really kindof shifts the trajectory in so
many things.
Whereas, like in the poem, hesays, you know, maybe I'll save
that other trail for anotherday, you know, the path he
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doesn't take.
But then he's like, But knowinghow way leads on to way, like, I
doubt it I'll ever get back tothat spot, right?
Because I'm gonna be led toother things as I follow this
path.
So I love that.
SPEAKER_00 (33:37):
Beautiful.
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (33:38):
That that's been your experience.
SPEAKER_00 (33:40):
Oh, 100%.
And yeah, the kids definitelyfeel it.
It's it's been the biggest gamechanger in our house versus all
the therapies that we have had.
SPEAKER_01 (33:50):
That's beautiful.
I can relate to that too.
I have a number of clients whowere like, I've tried this and
this, and just mindfulness hasworked better than any of those
things, you know.
My daughter the other day hadgone in.
There was a lot going on atschool, and her friend was
having some struggles with somedifferent stuff.
And so they'd gone in and talkedto the counselor for a minute,
and she was like, wasn't evenhelpful at all.
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And I'm a proponent of kidstalking to counselors, you know,
definitely.
And I thought it was great thatshe'd gone in there, but she's
like, she's just telling mestuff that I already thought of
that didn't help the situation.
So I figured out how to workthrough it on my own, you know?
That's cute.
But she had started, you know,the counselor in her very kind,
well-meaning way, had startedout with trying to help my
daughter have empathy for theother person in the exchange.
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Yeah, and my daughter has loadsof that, and so doesn't
necessarily need more.
But what was beautiful to me inthat moment was that she was
just like, This is not the timefor empathy, this is a time for
a boundary, and I need you tohelp me set a boundary.
If you're not gonna do that, Ineed different help, you know.
And she didn't say it to her inthose words, but that's what she
said to me.
She was like, I don't needempathy, I need a boundary.
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And I was like, Okay, but she,you know, like being present in
the moment she was in, she couldaccess her own innate wisdom
about it, also knowing herselfand the situation and how she
was feeling.
It was a stark contrast to herto be faced with someone who was
telling her to ignore this infavor of an expert opinion about
the situation.
She's like, No, no, no, I'm theexpert here.
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So that's what mindfulness does,right?
It makes kids the expert ofthemselves.
And as challenging as that canbe to parents sometimes, the
potential that comes from thattype of awareness and that type
of internal strength is a thingto behold.
SPEAKER_00 (35:35):
Yeah, that's beautiful.
I once had a guest on thepodcast, and she had mentioned
that she grew up spiritually,and I was like, Oh, yeah, I did
too.
My grandma would put like EdgarCasey, Eckhart Tolle books on my
nightstand when I was growing upin my 20s.
And she was like, No, no, no.
My parents taught me how to tuneinto myself and how to connect
with myself and how to meditateand hear my inner guidance.
(35:58):
And I was like, Oh, that's sobeautiful.
That is such a better way to putit.
I love that.
SPEAKER_01 (36:04):
Talk to me about friendship.
This is like a slight departurefrom what we were just talking
about, but sometimes when kiddoshave a different level of
sensitivity, what like thefriendship dynamics can be
interesting.
How do you explain friendship toyour kiddos or to kids who are
on the more sensitive side?
SPEAKER_00 (36:22):
Yeah, I think you know, it's been it's been
interesting because yeah, I dohave two sensitive kiddos and
they are very set in their ownways.
They want to not be told how tolive, they want to experience
things and they're very adamantabout that.
So when we're talking aboutfriendship, I often will ask
them questions and how they'refeeling.
(36:44):
How does that feel when such andsuch happens to you?
What do you think you would liketo change?
That's been a huge piece of it.
And then also, I use a lot of myown versions of things that have
happened to me as a sensitiveperson.
And I like to share with thatoften things like what a good
friend looks like, what lovelooks like in a friendship, what
(37:06):
compassion and acceptance looklike in a friendship.
I love to tell stories to giveexamples of what that may mean
for them.
Or I'll give an example like onetime I had a meltdown as a
friend.
And my friend was really takenaback because I was a little bit
abrasive in my meltdown.
Later on, I felt like thatfriend was pretty much done.
(37:29):
She didn't want to be a friendanymore.
And I had apologized andexplained, but she was done.
Do you think that was a goodfriend moment?
Do you think that we wereconnected in our friendship?
And so we use examples like thatand we really discuss it openly,
especially with the bigger kiddowho's almost 10.
SPEAKER_01 (37:45):
Yeah, having the skill set as one that's being
cultivated actively withconversation, with awareness,
with tools when needed, orquestions to help support the
growth of the child and thefriendships.
SPEAKER_00 (37:57):
It's definitely been a big one.
And it has been interestingbecause I have a son and a
daughter, and I feel like withmy son, it energetically has
been so much easier for him.
And they're very similar kids.
So it was interesting to see thedifference with the boys versus
the girls and really how muchmore we talk about it with our
daughter than we do with ourson.
SPEAKER_01 (38:16):
Yeah, so many different dynamics there.
SPEAKER_00 (38:19):
Yeah.
So that's been interesting.
It's definitely a lot ofreflection and how she's feeling
and how she feels with otherpeople.
I was so surprised, even infirst grade, like how it comes
up, how we wouldn't want to eversay anything about anybody else.
How my daughter was really beingexposed to that very quickly.
And I was like, this is notsomething we had been prepared
(38:39):
for.
But yeah, it came up so quickly.
And so we talk so much aboutloving one another for who we
are and seeing that love inothers and giving people second
chances.
And that's been a huge piece offirst grade.
SPEAKER_01 (38:52):
Yes, so many social skills to learn.
SPEAKER_00 (38:55):
Yeah, for sure.
So many.
SPEAKER_01 (38:57):
Well, Carrie, this has been so lovely.
Thank you for all the insightsyou've shared and for just the
way you show up in the world.
I know I sure appreciate it.
SPEAKER_00 (39:07):
Thank you for having me.
It's been such a lovely chat,and it's fun to connect with you
in two different spaces.
SPEAKER_01 (39:12):
Yeah.
No, I feel the same way.
Help our listeners know how theycan learn more about you.
Let's, you know, share yourpodcast so that we can have
people find you there.
SPEAKER_00 (39:23):
Definitely.
So our website ishearttoheartlife.com, and the
podcast is Heart toHeartParents.
It's on Apple, Spotify, YouTube,and we're on Instagram a lot
posting fun affirmations, parentmantras, and all of those things
to keep us connected withourselves.
SPEAKER_01 (39:42):
I've loved listening since you and I connected.
Just like the gentle andinsightful conversations, I find
myself enriched by them.
So thank you for all that youdo.
SPEAKER_00 (39:51):
Thank you so much.
That's such an inspiration tohear.
SPEAKER_01 (39:55):
Well, thanks again for being on the show.
And I look forward to talking toyou again soon.
Thanks.
Thanks for listening to theStress Nanny.
If you found today's episodehelpful, be sure to share it
with a friend who could use alittle extra calm in their week.
And if you have a minute, I'dlove for you to leave a review.
It helps other parents find theshow and join us on this
journey.
(40:15):
For more tools and support, headover to www.thestressnanny.com.
Remember, you don't have to dostress alone.
Together we can raise kids whoknow how to navigate life with
confidence and ease.
Until next time, take a deepbreath and give yourself some
grace.
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