December 26, 2024 • 28 mins
My special guest, Rico Suave, breaks down his journey from living for the thrill to chasing real, meaningful connections. We talk growth, love, and how setting boundaries and staying authentic has shaped his relationships today.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'll tell you.
Actually, I was coming fromPuerto Rico, yes, sir, and I met
a nice Puerto Rican in Miamiand I just didn't even know who
she was, but she knew me.
What, how's that work?
Yeah, I don't know.
Oh yeah, and she was speakingSpanish the whole time.
She assumed I spoke Spanish,but you don't have a lot of
Spanish, no, okay, but she, no,okay, she.
(00:23):
She understood quickly that Ididn't speak and we shared a day
in Miami and A day, yeah, justa day, and that night turned
into love, passion and sex Justfinished, yes, uncut.
Yeah, it gets raw.
Yeah, and it was a goodexperience and, uh, definitely
(00:46):
it was that adventure.
It was just not knowing whattomorrow may bring, but that in
the 20s I, definitely up to thehype of it fed what she wanted
from me, uh, and she gave mewhat I wanted.
Uh was an adventure, uh, it wasbeautiful.
There's something that I canactually put in the chest and
lock away and move forward towho I am today.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's your boy, sdot Breezy.
We're in the building, so happyto have our guest today.
Mr Suave Cito Rico.
Suave, the man, the myth andthe legend.
Very few people get thatmoniker, but I think you deserve
that moniker.
You definitely have thatmystique to you.
Uh, how are you feeling?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
feeling good.
Yes, sir, turned up.
Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yes, sir, thank you for coming, and I specifically
wanted to do this show with youbecause you've a man who's
experienced the highs, the lows,the ups and downs, as it
pertains to love, pain andrelationships.
Specifically, I think we'regoing to try to hone in on a
couple of key topics, whichwould be how to hold space for
(01:53):
your partner Definitely yep andalso setting boundaries, which
is critical.
It's key.
So do yourself a favor bysticking around and hearing from
Mr Rico Suave 12 years with thepublic transportation industry.
They have you doing sometraining at this point in time.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yes, I've just been promoted to an instructor
trainer.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Nice, nice Cheers to that man.
We got our drink and our twosteps.
So if you hear a littleclinkety clink, it means that
that's a drinkety drink.
Yeah, thanks to Crown, butdrink responsibly, correct.
Yes, let's get into it, man,let's not waste any time.
One thing I noticed about Ricoyou've definitely got that
(02:38):
charisma.
That fellas can take some notesfrom your book.
So talk to me about that.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Definitely, suave is a name that I had to live up to,
with my father naming me Ricofrom the Miami Vice show Right.
And as I got older and throughexperience, I learned that Rico
Suave is more just being genuineJust being genuine with people,
and that's where the Suavecomes in at.
How can you just interact withothers and make them feel good
(03:05):
about themselves?
Once I honed that and targetedinto just making others feel
good about themselves, it helpedme become more Rico Suavez that
I am today man, I didn't expectto hear that, so it's all about
uplifting others always.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yes, that's what.
That's something that you keepas a core value.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It is one of my core values is always to please
others first, learn from theirperspectives and just enjoy the
experience.
That's really the whole RicoSuave.
Is that experience?
What?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
does that?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
mean Experience in others, experience in life.
Oh, that is your mindset.
That's my mindset.
It's just to have an experience, ok, not to come in like alpha,
but what can I experience?
It's not my show, okay, I'mjust here producing it.
And it's your show, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Let's get into the journey of love that we came
here to talk about At 21,.
Your mindset was explorationand fun, right, figuring out who
you were and what you wanted,and so you made some mistakes,
right?
So talk to us about that timeperiod.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Definitely coming in at a younger age.
My whole thing was just theadventure, the fun, the
attraction, the whole.
Living on the edge of the chasethat was the whole journey.
Was the chase at that time?
Not really having a goal?
Starting into my love life, itwas more just an adventure.
(04:30):
Yeah, what do you mean by chase?
As males, we love the fact thatwe have to go ahead and get the
ladies numbers see what theylike, taking them on dates,
getting to know them.
All that was just an adventure.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It was the chase.
Okay, all that was the chase.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
All that was the chase, all that was exciting.
That's changed.
Yes, my whole mindset haschanged, now being at 35.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Just saying, that chase is more refined, that you
don't just go at everything yousee.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
No no, it's more like a wolf looking for their prey.
It's almost like you kind ofseek out what you want and
certain women have that itchthat makes you want to scratch
it, and when you come acrossthat, you want to do everything
in your power to just get her.
What is the itch that makes youwant to scratch?
It could be anything herfeeding to your ego, her feeding
(05:18):
to your desires.
Okay, all those things comeinto place where you're trying
to acquire her.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
This is at 35 or at 21?
More at 21.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh, okay, and now that I got older, the things
that I find more interesting asfar as a chase is stability,
culture, relationship, thefuture, not so much just the
surface level, it's more deeperthan that.
You want to find somebody youcan share your experiences with.
Okay, so is there a cutoff, anage cutoff?
(05:51):
I never had a cutoff in age.
When I was 21, I was dating40-year-olds.
I was dating way older than me.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Do you want?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
to handle a 40-year-old at 20?
Yeah, like we said earlier, I'ma man of learning and I wanted
to learn, and one thing that anolder woman taught me was to
listen and to speak less, okay,and to listen more, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
So I took that into my journey and that actually
helped shape how I woo women,okay, wow, so you soaked up gain
, soaked up a lot of gain.
Wow, so you soaked up game,soaked up a lot of game From
your partnership or yourrelationship with, sometimes,
women that were older,definitely, and you would share
that as advice to a younger manhey, don't hesitate to date
(06:34):
someone who's older, not tryingto get in their pocket but to
soak up game.
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
your mindset was the game was to reach one, teach one
Much as I learned.
The game is to pass it forward.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Hmm, Okay, so you mentioned what you look for in a
partner shifted right.
So what is that shift?
What are you starting to lookfor in the 30s right?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
30s.
I'm looking for someone more ofmy age now.
I have no kids, not married,and you want to start a family.
So going older might not alwaysbe the way to go.
So that's the change thereToday someone within my age
group that can have kids andhave a family.
Finding somebody that's themindset at my age now.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, not just trying to one-night stand them, but
something long-term.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, 20s was the one-night stands, 30s is more
the longevity.
Okay, so the one one nightstands.
How did you deal with that?
It was they don't get attached.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
No, it was fun, it was an escape.
What was it?
Yes, definitely tell me aboutone in miami or oh man, because
it's old news, ain't like likeshe goes.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not gonna come back and
haunt me wasn't one that gotattached there was one that got
attached and we definitely hadan understanding.
I'll tell you, actually, I wascoming from Puerto Rico, yes,
sir, and I met a nice PuertoRican in Miami and I just didn't
even know who she was, but sheknew me.
(07:59):
How's that work?
Yeah, I don't know.
Oh yeah, and she was speakingSpanish the whole time.
She assumed I spoke Spanish.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But you don't have a lot of Spanish.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
No, okay, but she— no , okay, but she understood
quickly that I didn't speak andwe shared a day in Miami A day,
yeah, just a day, and that nightturned into love, passion and
sex Just finished.
Yes, passion and sex, just yes.
Uncut, yeah, it gets raw.
(08:29):
Yeah, and it was a goodexperience and definitely it was
that adventure.
It was just not knowing whattomorrow may bring, but that in
the 20s I definitely went up tothe hype of it.
I fed what she wanted from meand she gave me what I wanted.
It was an adventure, it wasbeautiful, it's something that I
can actually put in the chestand lock away and move forward
(08:50):
to who I am today.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Really, yes, that has a value in who you are today,
that experience.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Definitely I don't have to go to sleep at night
tossing and turning, wishing Iwas out there for an appetite of
chasing women.
I'm always be happy with thewoman that's laying next to me,
with no desires of chasing anyother woman, because you already
been there and I think that'sthe key was to have those
adventures in my early 20s.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Okay, but just a little disclaimer as we are
drinking responsibly, we arealso strapping up on the Jimmy
hat, because it's a cold gamecould lead to a lifetime of pain
.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Definitely, safety was always number one, so
practice safe intercourse.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yes, I got this far, thanks to magnum.
So how do you counsel people,or how do you counsel yourself,
on when is it time to lay yourbone, if the opportunity
presents itself.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I like it now because I have way more self-control.
Okay, I don't have the urgelike I did when I was in my 20s.
I really have so much morecontrol on willpower.
I can really sit back and say,no, I don't need to go that
route Because.
Because it doesn't fit for me,it doesn't fit for my peace, it
doesn't fit for my agenda.
And my agenda now is waydifferent from when I was in my
(10:12):
twenties.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So have you had women that have presented themselves
not to be chauvinistic, but youknow opportunities that
presented themselves and you hadto turn down.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Definitely, definitely.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I've turned it down and it's surprising they feel
lightweight, rejected, or theyaccept it as he's a real man.
That's a real stand up thingfor him to do.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
It's a little bit of both.
I get the I'm rejected, butalso I understand where you're
at in life.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right.
So is it platonic that you'resaying Are your friends on them
or what is it?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It's not even platonic.
It's more when you're ready,these legs are ready for you.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Her legs or your legs ?
Oh, her legs are ready.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, her legs are ready.
Oh, okay, and if I want to godown that route, that
opportunity is there.
Ah yeah, it's not platonic more, it's more like whenever you're
ready.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Gotcha, regardless of your situation, no, that
opportunity, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So I have to put it in.
So is it about respecting thelady, respecting yourself, it's
about respect for self-growth.
Oh, okay, yeah, I don't need tohave that.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I feel it.
I feel it, I think I justcaught it, so it's like I'm not
there.
I'm not who I was before.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yes, that's not maturation.
Yeah, it takes a lot ofexperience to get to that point.
Yeah, cheers man, I'm runninglow, oh this time for me to
refill up.
Yeah, yeah.
So, folks, thank you forstopping by.
It will get richer, it willcontinue.
So we haven't tapped into yourwishes and desires at this point
(11:48):
.
Then stay with us.
My man, rico Swigert, you'renot going nowhere.
I'm not going nowhere, I'm here.
Okay, he's going to stickaround for a hot second and I
believe we're going to get intothat more mature conversation
about holding space and settingboundaries, which I really want
to hear about why and when thoseboundaries had to be set for
you.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Boundaries can work for you and it can work against
you.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Okay, so we definitely need to get into one.
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There Is that, trey Songz.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That is Trigger, trigger Trey songs.
That is trigger trigger Treywith the vocals.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
the author of my life .
Author of your life.
Talk to us about it.
One love there's a name of thissong and this song had an
impact on you.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Talk to us about that definitely Trey songs, with the
producer of Troy Taylor, tookthe lyrics and it's almost as if
we was writing in the studiotogether as I was going through
my love life, and uh definitelyplayed a huge part.
I mean, every time I was goingthrough a situation or trying to
find some kind of therapy,those lyrics definitely spoke to
(13:32):
me.
And this song right here wascalled one love, uh-huh, uh, by
trey songs and uh, troy taylor,and and just basically just
signifying uh, putting yourpride and ego aside to let your
lady know I'm here to be thefoundation, I'm, I'm done
playing games.
This is what I want and who Iwant it with.
And it goes on to saying onemind, one heart, one love.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And that was like the foundation of what you're
trying to build with somebody,okay, so you presented that to a
lady before, yeah, and thenwhat happened?
Has it always panned out?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
No, it was always about self-growth and being
vulnerable.
Vulnerability became part of mygrowth.
Feeling that heartbreak waspart of my growth.
I kind of figured that out.
I have to be vulnerable andunderstand what I want.
I never knew how to articulateit and music became 50% of my
(14:29):
articulation.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I would say that you got to move in stages, stages.
You can't just be vulnerablefrom day one.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Right, exactly.
You definitely gotta understandif you're first compatible and
if y'all on the same page,vulnerability comes with.
Are we on the same page?
So once you figured out thatboth of you are compatible, you
start to see that thevulnerability comes in layers.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Layers or stages.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Layers and in stages.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
So there's stages to it and then there's different
layers that you have to unravelto say, okay, I can trust this
person, I can be transparentwith this person and say that I
can show this part of me.
For me and my love life lifebeing vulnerable has been very
hard.
I could never be vulnerable inthe relations I was in and that
(15:19):
was hard for me.
You always had the guard up, soto speak, always, always had
the guard up of protecting mybroken heart.
Really, yeah, who did that?
It was broken before I even gotinto the love game, I believe
who did that before I even gotinto the love game?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I believe who did that Is it past relationships or
just other.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I think it was pretty much the people you love
growing up as a child that sawtheir broken hearts kind of pass
down into my broken heart and Ithink I kind of carried that
into my life as I grew up.
Wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
You say that if your mother or father had some sort
of brokenness, relationship,trauma, it could transfer into
your interpretation of lifeDefinitely and experiences.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Definitely.
You know your mother is yourfirst love.
For any man, your mother isyour first love.
So seeing your mother beingbrokenhearted or your parents
split it would definitely for me.
It trickled down into how Iwanted to keep my guard up, not
to be hurt.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So they say wounded people, wound other people.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, I am the sins of my parents, really.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, wow, I thought you were going to connect to a
high school relationship it runsdeep, but high school was my
first love.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I had a high school lover and she was definitely my
first love.
And then that turmoil justcertified what was always there
before.
Wait, it soured.
Is that what you said?
It was some turmoil.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Turmoil.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And then it just certified pretty much what I
already thought love would be.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
So Rico, the man from Miami, the man, the myth of
leverage, is a victim.
He's not victimizing.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
No, I don't want to be a victim so much.
I more want to kind of be thebystander.
Yeah, I'd rather be thebystander than the victim.
You don't want to get involved.
Yeah, I'm more of let me seewhat needs to be fixed here than
actually the victim with thewounds Some wounds you can never
(17:39):
heal, and these wounds wasnever inflicted to me directly,
but seeing that it affectedsomebody else, has affected me.
Yes, I'd rather be the bystander.
I think I'm the bystander ofbroken hearts.
And that's when music kind ofembodied what I felt.
Right, I couldn't articulate it.
It was new to me, yeah.
The heartbreak, the love, thepassion, the sex, all of it was
(18:03):
new.
Uh-huh and uh, music becamepart of the uh that.
The orchestra, yeah, for what Iwas feeling, yeah, and I moved
on with that music has been abit of a diary, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It's been the author of my love life.
So another song you said was abig part of your journey was by
Usher, am I correct?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
yes, usher, definitely it's called Before I
Met you, uh-huh, and that goesinto growth.
It's telling your lover.
Before I met you I was thisperson, I was a hustler, I was a
player, but with you I foundgrowth, and that's a deep song
that I really could relate to.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Let's take a listen to this.
Yeah, before I met you.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Just in case I never see your face again.
Just in case the worst wasmeant to happen, just in case
tomorrow never come.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Wow, I don't think I've actually listened to that
song like that.
Yeah, that one's deep.
Who are we?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
dedicating that to Do you remember?
Yes, I do vividly there's aspecific season yeah, I was
day-to-day in a woman that, uh,that truly opened my eyes.
It's not about me.
It took me out of rico su.
It wasn't about winning herover.
It was about being transparent,about loving her for who she is
(19:40):
and being her support.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Love it, love it.
I've got to put a pin in thatone.
Stick that to the wall one time.
But it also leads us to ourtopic.
We have two of them today,which is setting boundaries.
So how do you deal with that asa single man?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Where are we at in this relationship?
Are we a year in?
Are we two years in?
Are we three months in?
No, all matters, all matters,yeah.
So if we're three months in,I'm just going to sit back and
see how you move.
How you move, okay.
If we a year in and we'relocked in I'm going to express
my boundaries Is locked inmonogamous what is locked in?
(20:14):
Locked in means we're notmessing around.
We're trying to figure outwhere this is going to lead and
if this is going to lead tosomething more serious.
I want to see right now if youcan respect my boundaries and be
transparent about that.
I want to see if you're goingto tell me if you're going to go
such and such and who you'regoing to hang with and respect
(20:34):
that, if we have a disagreement,that we can come together and
talk it out peacefully.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So trust trumps transparency then.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Trust for me leaves too much expectation.
I'd rather have thetransparency of you just
voluntarily telling me than mehaving to ask questions,
trusting that you would tell methe truth.
I would trust more of yourtransparency with me.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Transparency is a sign of being a trustworthy
person.
Is that what you're saying?
It's that we're connected.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
We're one.
Yeah, we're one.
Going back to the Trey Songzsongs one love, we're one mind
to the Trey Songz songs one love, we're one mind, one heart, one
love.
What you do affects me and whatI do affects you so you have a
hieroglyphic prince tattoo, am Icorrect?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
yes, yeah, I've got it right here there was a song
that is part of your journey,what it's called the beautiful
oneses.
The Beautiful Ones yeah.
What's that song all about?
For?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
you.
That song for me is really likeI said before it puts your
heart out there for someone youdon't know if she's for you, you
don't know if she's digging you.
That one is more of do you wantthat guy that you're chasing,
that you're curious about, or doyou want me?
And it's really.
I'm putting my heart on theline.
And basically he says you know,the beautiful ones always smash
(21:57):
the picture, always every time.
And what does that mean, man?
You know that gets kind of deep.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Let's have a listen to the beautiful ones.
Beautiful ones, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Baby, baby, baby.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
What's it gonna be?
Baby, baby, baby.
Is it him or is it me?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Don't make me waste my time.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Don't make me lose my mind, baby.
He said is it him or is it me?
Yeah, he wants to know where hestands, and that's what we just
talked about.
Where do you stand?
Where?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
are we at?
What are we moving towards?
Marriage, love, what are wedoing?
Mm-hmm, yeah, love has alwaysbeen the goal for me.
That's the end game.
That's the end game.
I don't want to leave thisearth without experiencing that.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Mm want to leave this earth without experiencing that
?
Yeah, so it's a quest, yeah,and we're swimming upstream in
hopes to find that mate.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, rico suave wants a lover.
You put it out there.
Yeah, rico suave is looking fora one woman a twin flame they
call it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not out here to to beuh, dipping and dabbing all
these one stands.
I really want to cherish onewoman, right?
Yeah, that's really the realRico Suave.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You know this has been a great conversation.
I want to get into the aspectof holding space for your
partner.
What does that mean?
To hold space for someone in arelationship?
Why is that an important, uh,characteristic of a good?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
relationship.
Man, that's a good question.
That's pretty deep, yeah and uh.
You gotta hold space for yourlover's feelings.
You want to share the deepestsecrets.
You want to be intertwined withwith each other and have thorns
on that vine.
Nobody else can get in, anybodythat tries to come and touch
that rose with the thorns, theycan't.
(24:18):
So it's just only you two.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And that's important because you want to be in the
pocket, so to speak, with thatpartner right, that person that
can hold that space withoutjudgment and you know you
touched on it Judgment, yeah,you're in a space where you guys
are listening to each otherwithout judgment.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You're trusting each other without judgment, and
judgment is everything.
Judgment can really limit or belimitless in a relationship,
and that's the quest.
And a lot of people have notpassed the RICO test.
No, and it's sad.
I've a lot of people have notpassed the RICO test no, and
it's sad.
I've been at this for a longtime, A long time.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
But you caught the garter at my wedding.
I thought you caught it.
I caught two.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I think so far that means you're next up you know
that right.
It's the signs the universe istelling me I'm next and it's
just that I have to be prepared,and I think that's where all
the growth and experience comesin.
At it's for me to be prepared.
That garter is a sign.
Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Toast to the garter.
Thanks.
Well, listen, man, as we cometo a close.
Here we're looking at uh 2025you ready for that?
One, definitely so my questionto you is you can speak to it as
relationships or just goals ingeneral, talk to me about
anything you've thought aboutfor 2025.
Toast to 2025.
(25:46):
Yes, sir, my cup needsrefilling, but yes, sir, 2025 is
all about relationship, is it?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's all about relationship and peace.
For me, I think I've setgroundbreaking for the goals
that I've had.
Yes, sir, I've had theexperiences.
I've had the love.
I have had the one night stands, sometimes one, sometimes two
(26:17):
at the same time, but now it'smore for longevity, legacy, and
that one person I don't knowtoday but who am I going to, who
they're going to be tomorrow?
So I'm looking for that love.
Hopefully, 2025, 2026, you'llsee a married Rico Suave with
kids, and that's the goal.
That's the goal.
That's the goal, that's thegoal 2025 to be married, 2026
kids.
I didn't know that.
(26:37):
Yeah, I'm letting on.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
You heard it here first Breaking news.
But let me ask you this, thoughwhat are you going to do
concretely to achieve that goal.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Boundaries is going to be the key point is if I'm
going to set the boundaries formyself and for others myself and
for others to let myself openup, be more vulnerable to this
love.
Am I going to allow somebody in?
Oh, got you, yeah, because I'venever let one, no one, fully in
.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
If you got so much to protect, you can't just let
people in so much, I gotta letit go it's.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's taking a toll on me.
I gotta let all that go.
I gotta let all the past hurt,pain, love I gotta let that go.
I gotta be free and just takeit as a lesson.
That's who made me who I amtoday, at age 35.
Now I didn't know you were.
You were guarded.
I didn't know that very guarded.
This is the only time I wasable to open up about it cheers
(27:24):
to that, cheers of love in 2025I get you refilled up.
I'm buzzed in here already, areyou?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Uh-huh, Okay, sir, Peace y'all why?
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(27:53):
Thanks again and until nexttime, keep your head up and eyes
on the road.
I'll tell you.
Actually, I was coming fromPuerto Rico, yes, sir, and I met
a nice Puerto Rican in Miamiand I just didn't even know who
she was, but she knew me.
What, how's that work?
Yeah, I don't know.
Oh yeah, and she was speakingSpanish the whole time.
She assumed I spoke Spanish,but you don't have a lot of
Spanish, no, okay, but she, no,okay, she.
(00:23):
She understood quickly that Ididn't speak and we shared a day
in Miami and A day, yeah, justa day, and that night turned
into love, passion and sex Justfinished, yes, uncut.
Yeah, it gets raw.
Yeah, and it was a goodexperience and, uh, definitely
(00:46):
it was that adventure.
It was just not knowing whattomorrow may bring, but that in
the 20s I, definitely up to thehype of it fed what she wanted
from me, uh, and she gave mewhat I wanted.
Uh was an adventure, uh, it wasbeautiful.
There's something that I canactually put in the chest and
lock away and move forward towho I am today.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's your boy, sdot Breezy.
We're in the building, so happyto have our guest today.
Mr Suave Cito Rico.
Suave, the man, the myth andthe legend.
Very few people get thatmoniker, but I think you deserve
that moniker.
You definitely have thatmystique to you.
Uh, how are you feeling?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
feeling good.
Yes, sir, turned up.
Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yes, sir, thank you for coming, and I specifically
wanted to do this show with youbecause you've a man who's
experienced the highs, the lows,the ups and downs, as it
pertains to love, pain andrelationships.
Specifically, I think we'regoing to try to hone in on a
couple of key topics, whichwould be how to hold space for
(01:53):
your partner Definitely yep andalso setting boundaries, which
is critical.
It's key.
So do yourself a favor bysticking around and hearing from
Mr Rico Suave 12 years with thepublic transportation industry.
They have you doing sometraining at this point in time.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yes, I've just been promoted to an instructor
trainer.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Nice, nice Cheers to that man.
We got our drink and our twosteps.
So if you hear a littleclinkety clink, it means that
that's a drinkety drink.
Yeah, thanks to Crown, butdrink responsibly, correct.
Yes, let's get into it, man,let's not waste any time.
One thing I noticed about Ricoyou've definitely got that
(02:38):
charisma.
That fellas can take some notesfrom your book.
So talk to me about that.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Definitely, suave is a name that I had to live up to,
with my father naming me Ricofrom the Miami Vice show Right.
And as I got older and throughexperience, I learned that Rico
Suave is more just being genuineJust being genuine with people,
and that's where the Suavecomes in at.
How can you just interact withothers and make them feel good
(03:05):
about themselves?
Once I honed that and targetedinto just making others feel
good about themselves, it helpedme become more Rico Suavez that
I am today man, I didn't expectto hear that, so it's all about
uplifting others always.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yes, that's what.
That's something that you keepas a core value.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
It is one of my core values is always to please
others first, learn from theirperspectives and just enjoy the
experience.
That's really the whole RicoSuave.
Is that experience?
What?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
does that?
Speaker 1 (03:37):
mean Experience in others, experience in life.
Oh, that is your mindset.
That's my mindset.
It's just to have an experience, ok, not to come in like alpha,
but what can I experience?
It's not my show, okay, I'mjust here producing it.
And it's your show, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Let's get into the journey of love that we came
here to talk about At 21,.
Your mindset was explorationand fun, right, figuring out who
you were and what you wanted,and so you made some mistakes,
right?
So talk to us about that timeperiod.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Definitely coming in at a younger age.
My whole thing was just theadventure, the fun, the
attraction, the whole.
Living on the edge of the chasethat was the whole journey.
Was the chase at that time?
Not really having a goal?
Starting into my love life, itwas more just an adventure.
(04:30):
Yeah, what do you mean by chase?
As males, we love the fact thatwe have to go ahead and get the
ladies numbers see what theylike, taking them on dates,
getting to know them.
All that was just an adventure.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
It was the chase.
Okay, all that was the chase.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
All that was the chase, all that was exciting.
That's changed.
Yes, my whole mindset haschanged, now being at 35.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Just saying, that chase is more refined, that you
don't just go at everything yousee.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
No no, it's more like a wolf looking for their prey.
It's almost like you kind ofseek out what you want and
certain women have that itchthat makes you want to scratch
it, and when you come acrossthat, you want to do everything
in your power to just get her.
What is the itch that makes youwant to scratch?
It could be anything herfeeding to your ego, her feeding
(05:18):
to your desires.
Okay, all those things comeinto place where you're trying
to acquire her.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
This is at 35 or at 21?
More at 21.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh, okay, and now that I got older, the things
that I find more interesting asfar as a chase is stability,
culture, relationship, thefuture, not so much just the
surface level, it's more deeperthan that.
You want to find somebody youcan share your experiences with.
Okay, so is there a cutoff, anage cutoff?
(05:51):
I never had a cutoff in age.
When I was 21, I was dating40-year-olds.
I was dating way older than me.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Do you want?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
to handle a 40-year-old at 20?
Yeah, like we said earlier, I'ma man of learning and I wanted
to learn, and one thing that anolder woman taught me was to
listen and to speak less, okay,and to listen more, uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
So I took that into my journey and that actually
helped shape how I woo women,okay, wow, so you soaked up gain
, soaked up a lot of gain.
Wow, so you soaked up game,soaked up a lot of game From
your partnership or yourrelationship with, sometimes,
women that were older,definitely, and you would share
that as advice to a younger manhey, don't hesitate to date
(06:34):
someone who's older, not tryingto get in their pocket but to
soak up game.
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
your mindset was the game was to reach one, teach one
Much as I learned.
The game is to pass it forward.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Hmm, Okay, so you mentioned what you look for in a
partner shifted right.
So what is that shift?
What are you starting to lookfor in the 30s right?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
30s.
I'm looking for someone more ofmy age now.
I have no kids, not married,and you want to start a family.
So going older might not alwaysbe the way to go.
So that's the change thereToday someone within my age
group that can have kids andhave a family.
Finding somebody that's themindset at my age now.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, not just trying to one-night stand them, but
something long-term.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, 20s was the one-night stands, 30s is more
the longevity.
Okay, so the one one nightstands.
How did you deal with that?
It was they don't get attached.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
No, it was fun, it was an escape.
What was it?
Yes, definitely tell me aboutone in miami or oh man, because
it's old news, ain't like likeshe goes.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not gonna come back and
haunt me wasn't one that gotattached there was one that got
attached and we definitely hadan understanding.
I'll tell you, actually, I wascoming from Puerto Rico, yes,
sir, and I met a nice PuertoRican in Miami and I just didn't
even know who she was, but sheknew me.
(07:59):
How's that work?
Yeah, I don't know.
Oh yeah, and she was speakingSpanish the whole time.
She assumed I spoke Spanish.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But you don't have a lot of Spanish.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
No, okay, but she— no , okay, but she understood
quickly that I didn't speak andwe shared a day in Miami A day,
yeah, just a day, and that nightturned into love, passion and
sex Just finished.
Yes, passion and sex, just yes.
Uncut, yeah, it gets raw.
(08:29):
Yeah, and it was a goodexperience and definitely it was
that adventure.
It was just not knowing whattomorrow may bring, but that in
the 20s I definitely went up tothe hype of it.
I fed what she wanted from meand she gave me what I wanted.
It was an adventure, it wasbeautiful, it's something that I
can actually put in the chestand lock away and move forward
(08:50):
to who I am today.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Really, yes, that has a value in who you are today,
that experience.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Definitely I don't have to go to sleep at night
tossing and turning, wishing Iwas out there for an appetite of
chasing women.
I'm always be happy with thewoman that's laying next to me,
with no desires of chasing anyother woman, because you already
been there and I think that'sthe key was to have those
adventures in my early 20s.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Okay, but just a little disclaimer as we are
drinking responsibly, we arealso strapping up on the Jimmy
hat, because it's a cold gamecould lead to a lifetime of pain
.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Definitely, safety was always number one, so
practice safe intercourse.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yes, I got this far, thanks to magnum.
So how do you counsel people,or how do you counsel yourself,
on when is it time to lay yourbone, if the opportunity
presents itself.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I like it now because I have way more self-control.
Okay, I don't have the urgelike I did when I was in my 20s.
I really have so much morecontrol on willpower.
I can really sit back and say,no, I don't need to go that
route Because.
Because it doesn't fit for me,it doesn't fit for my peace, it
doesn't fit for my agenda.
And my agenda now is waydifferent from when I was in my
(10:12):
twenties.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
So have you had women that have presented themselves
not to be chauvinistic, but youknow opportunities that
presented themselves and you hadto turn down.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Definitely, definitely.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I've turned it down and it's surprising they feel
lightweight, rejected, or theyaccept it as he's a real man.
That's a real stand up thingfor him to do.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
It's a little bit of both.
I get the I'm rejected, butalso I understand where you're
at in life.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right.
So is it platonic that you'resaying Are your friends on them
or what is it?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It's not even platonic.
It's more when you're ready,these legs are ready for you.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Her legs or your legs ?
Oh, her legs are ready.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, her legs are ready.
Oh, okay, and if I want to godown that route, that
opportunity is there.
Ah yeah, it's not platonic more, it's more like whenever you're
ready.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Gotcha, regardless of your situation, no, that
opportunity, okay.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So I have to put it in.
So is it about respecting thelady, respecting yourself, it's
about respect for self-growth.
Oh, okay, yeah, I don't need tohave that.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I feel it.
I feel it, I think I justcaught it, so it's like I'm not
there.
I'm not who I was before.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yes, that's not maturation.
Yeah, it takes a lot ofexperience to get to that point.
Yeah, cheers man, I'm runninglow, oh this time for me to
refill up.
Yeah, yeah.
So, folks, thank you forstopping by.
It will get richer, it willcontinue.
So we haven't tapped into yourwishes and desires at this point
(11:48):
.
Then stay with us.
My man, rico Swigert, you'renot going nowhere.
I'm not going nowhere, I'm here.
Okay, he's going to stickaround for a hot second and I
believe we're going to get intothat more mature conversation
about holding space and settingboundaries, which I really want
to hear about why and when thoseboundaries had to be set for
you.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Boundaries can work for you and it can work against
you.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Okay, so we definitely need to get into one.
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There Is that, trey Songz.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That is Trigger, trigger Trey songs.
That is trigger trigger Treywith the vocals.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
the author of my life .
Author of your life.
Talk to us about it.
One love there's a name of thissong and this song had an
impact on you.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Talk to us about that definitely Trey songs, with the
producer of Troy Taylor, tookthe lyrics and it's almost as if
we was writing in the studiotogether as I was going through
my love life, and uh definitelyplayed a huge part.
I mean, every time I was goingthrough a situation or trying to
find some kind of therapy,those lyrics definitely spoke to
(13:32):
me.
And this song right here wascalled one love, uh-huh, uh, by
trey songs and uh, troy taylor,and and just basically just
signifying uh, putting yourpride and ego aside to let your
lady know I'm here to be thefoundation, I'm, I'm done
playing games.
This is what I want and who Iwant it with.
And it goes on to saying onemind, one heart, one love.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And that was like the foundation of what you're
trying to build with somebody,okay, so you presented that to a
lady before, yeah, and thenwhat happened?
Has it always panned out?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
No, it was always about self-growth and being
vulnerable.
Vulnerability became part of mygrowth.
Feeling that heartbreak waspart of my growth.
I kind of figured that out.
I have to be vulnerable andunderstand what I want.
I never knew how to articulateit and music became 50% of my
(14:29):
articulation.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I would say that you got to move in stages, stages.
You can't just be vulnerablefrom day one.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Right, exactly.
You definitely gotta understandif you're first compatible and
if y'all on the same page,vulnerability comes with.
Are we on the same page?
So once you figured out thatboth of you are compatible, you
start to see that thevulnerability comes in layers.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Layers or stages.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Layers and in stages.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
So there's stages to it and then there's different
layers that you have to unravelto say, okay, I can trust this
person, I can be transparentwith this person and say that I
can show this part of me.
For me and my love life lifebeing vulnerable has been very
hard.
I could never be vulnerable inthe relations I was in and that
(15:19):
was hard for me.
You always had the guard up, soto speak, always, always had
the guard up of protecting mybroken heart.
Really, yeah, who did that?
It was broken before I even gotinto the love game, I believe
who did that before I even gotinto the love game?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I believe who did that Is it past relationships or
just other.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I think it was pretty much the people you love
growing up as a child that sawtheir broken hearts kind of pass
down into my broken heart and Ithink I kind of carried that
into my life as I grew up.
Wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
You say that if your mother or father had some sort
of brokenness, relationship,trauma, it could transfer into
your interpretation of lifeDefinitely and experiences.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Definitely.
You know your mother is yourfirst love.
For any man, your mother isyour first love.
So seeing your mother beingbrokenhearted or your parents
split it would definitely for me.
It trickled down into how Iwanted to keep my guard up, not
to be hurt.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So they say wounded people, wound other people.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, I am the sins of my parents, really.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah, wow, I thought you were going to connect to a
high school relationship it runsdeep, but high school was my
first love.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I had a high school lover and she was definitely my
first love.
And then that turmoil justcertified what was always there
before.
Wait, it soured.
Is that what you said?
It was some turmoil.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Turmoil.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And then it just certified pretty much what I
already thought love would be.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
So Rico, the man from Miami, the man, the myth of
leverage, is a victim.
He's not victimizing.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
No, I don't want to be a victim so much.
I more want to kind of be thebystander.
Yeah, I'd rather be thebystander than the victim.
You don't want to get involved.
Yeah, I'm more of let me seewhat needs to be fixed here than
actually the victim with thewounds Some wounds you can never
(17:39):
heal, and these wounds wasnever inflicted to me directly,
but seeing that it affectedsomebody else, has affected me.
Yes, I'd rather be the bystander.
I think I'm the bystander ofbroken hearts.
And that's when music kind ofembodied what I felt.
Right, I couldn't articulate it.
It was new to me, yeah.
The heartbreak, the love, thepassion, the sex, all of it was
(18:03):
new.
Uh-huh and uh, music becamepart of the uh that.
The orchestra, yeah, for what Iwas feeling, yeah, and I moved
on with that music has been abit of a diary, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
It's been the author of my love life.
So another song you said was abig part of your journey was by
Usher, am I correct?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
yes, usher, definitely it's called Before I
Met you, uh-huh, and that goesinto growth.
It's telling your lover.
Before I met you I was thisperson, I was a hustler, I was a
player, but with you I foundgrowth, and that's a deep song
that I really could relate to.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Let's take a listen to this.
Yeah, before I met you.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Just in case I never see your face again.
Just in case the worst wasmeant to happen, just in case
tomorrow never come.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Wow, I don't think I've actually listened to that
song like that.
Yeah, that one's deep.
Who are we?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
dedicating that to Do you remember?
Yes, I do vividly there's aspecific season yeah, I was
day-to-day in a woman that, uh,that truly opened my eyes.
It's not about me.
It took me out of rico su.
It wasn't about winning herover.
It was about being transparent,about loving her for who she is
(19:40):
and being her support.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Love it, love it.
I've got to put a pin in thatone.
Stick that to the wall one time.
But it also leads us to ourtopic.
We have two of them today,which is setting boundaries.
So how do you deal with that asa single man?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Where are we at in this relationship?
Are we a year in?
Are we two years in?
Are we three months in?
No, all matters, all matters,yeah.
So if we're three months in,I'm just going to sit back and
see how you move.
How you move, okay.
If we a year in and we'relocked in I'm going to express
my boundaries Is locked inmonogamous what is locked in?
(20:14):
Locked in means we're notmessing around.
We're trying to figure outwhere this is going to lead and
if this is going to lead tosomething more serious.
I want to see right now if youcan respect my boundaries and be
transparent about that.
I want to see if you're goingto tell me if you're going to go
such and such and who you'regoing to hang with and respect
(20:34):
that, if we have a disagreement,that we can come together and
talk it out peacefully.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So trust trumps transparency then.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Trust for me leaves too much expectation.
I'd rather have thetransparency of you just
voluntarily telling me than mehaving to ask questions,
trusting that you would tell methe truth.
I would trust more of yourtransparency with me.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Transparency is a sign of being a trustworthy
person.
Is that what you're saying?
It's that we're connected.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
We're one.
Yeah, we're one.
Going back to the Trey Songzsongs one love, we're one mind
to the Trey Songz songs one love, we're one mind, one heart, one
love.
What you do affects me and whatI do affects you so you have a
hieroglyphic prince tattoo, am Icorrect?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
yes, yeah, I've got it right here there was a song
that is part of your journey,what it's called the beautiful
oneses.
The Beautiful Ones yeah.
What's that song all about?
For?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
you.
That song for me is really likeI said before it puts your
heart out there for someone youdon't know if she's for you, you
don't know if she's digging you.
That one is more of do you wantthat guy that you're chasing,
that you're curious about, or doyou want me?
And it's really.
I'm putting my heart on theline.
And basically he says you know,the beautiful ones always smash
(21:57):
the picture, always every time.
And what does that mean, man?
You know that gets kind of deep.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Let's have a listen to the beautiful ones.
Beautiful ones, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Baby, baby, baby.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
What's it gonna be?
Baby, baby, baby.
Is it him or is it me?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Don't make me waste my time.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Don't make me lose my mind, baby.
He said is it him or is it me?
Yeah, he wants to know where hestands, and that's what we just
talked about.
Where do you stand?
Where?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
are we at?
What are we moving towards?
Marriage, love, what are wedoing?
Mm-hmm, yeah, love has alwaysbeen the goal for me.
That's the end game.
That's the end game.
I don't want to leave thisearth without experiencing that.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Mm want to leave this earth without experiencing that
?
Yeah, so it's a quest, yeah,and we're swimming upstream in
hopes to find that mate.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, rico suave wants a lover.
You put it out there.
Yeah, rico suave is looking fora one woman a twin flame they
call it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not out here to to beuh, dipping and dabbing all
these one stands.
I really want to cherish onewoman, right?
Yeah, that's really the realRico Suave.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You know this has been a great conversation.
I want to get into the aspectof holding space for your
partner.
What does that mean?
To hold space for someone in arelationship?
Why is that an important, uh,characteristic of a good?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
relationship.
Man, that's a good question.
That's pretty deep, yeah and uh.
You gotta hold space for yourlover's feelings.
You want to share the deepestsecrets.
You want to be intertwined withwith each other and have thorns
on that vine.
Nobody else can get in, anybodythat tries to come and touch
that rose with the thorns, theycan't.
(24:18):
So it's just only you two.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And that's important because you want to be in the
pocket, so to speak, with thatpartner right, that person that
can hold that space withoutjudgment and you know you
touched on it Judgment, yeah,you're in a space where you guys
are listening to each otherwithout judgment.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You're trusting each other without judgment, and
judgment is everything.
Judgment can really limit or belimitless in a relationship,
and that's the quest.
And a lot of people have notpassed the RICO test.
No, and it's sad.
I've a lot of people have notpassed the RICO test no, and
it's sad.
I've been at this for a longtime, A long time.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
But you caught the garter at my wedding.
I thought you caught it.
I caught two.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I think so far that means you're next up you know
that right.
It's the signs the universe istelling me I'm next and it's
just that I have to be prepared,and I think that's where all
the growth and experience comesin.
At it's for me to be prepared.
That garter is a sign.
Yeah, thanks.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Toast to the garter.
Thanks.
Well, listen, man, as we cometo a close.
Here we're looking at uh 2025you ready for that?
One, definitely so my questionto you is you can speak to it as
relationships or just goals ingeneral, talk to me about
anything you've thought aboutfor 2025.
Toast to 2025.
(25:46):
Yes, sir, my cup needsrefilling, but yes, sir, 2025 is
all about relationship, is it?
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's all about relationship and peace.
For me, I think I've setgroundbreaking for the goals
that I've had.
Yes, sir, I've had theexperiences.
I've had the love.
I have had the one night stands, sometimes one, sometimes two
(26:17):
at the same time, but now it'smore for longevity, legacy, and
that one person I don't knowtoday but who am I going to, who
they're going to be tomorrow?
So I'm looking for that love.
Hopefully, 2025, 2026, you'llsee a married Rico Suave with
kids, and that's the goal.
That's the goal.
That's the goal, that's thegoal 2025 to be married, 2026
kids.
I didn't know that.
(26:37):
Yeah, I'm letting on.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
You heard it here first Breaking news.
But let me ask you this, thoughwhat are you going to do
concretely to achieve that goal.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Boundaries is going to be the key point is if I'm
going to set the boundaries formyself and for others myself and
for others to let myself openup, be more vulnerable to this
love.
Am I going to allow somebody in?
Oh, got you, yeah, because I'venever let one, no one, fully in
.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
If you got so much to protect, you can't just let
people in so much, I gotta letit go it's.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's taking a toll on me.
I gotta let all that go.
I gotta let all the past hurt,pain, love I gotta let that go.
I gotta be free and just takeit as a lesson.
That's who made me who I amtoday, at age 35.
Now I didn't know you were.
You were guarded.
I didn't know that very guarded.
This is the only time I wasable to open up about it cheers
(27:24):
to that, cheers of love in 2025I get you refilled up.
I'm buzzed in here already, areyou?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Uh-huh, Okay, sir, Peace y'all why?
Thanks for listening.
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(27:53):
Thanks again and until nexttime, keep your head up and eyes
on the road.
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