August 25, 2025 • 22 mins
What's up PE Nation!
Let's talk "Game Changers" today! Scotty Scheffler, the world's #1 golfer, offers a refreshing perspective on success, prioritizing faith and family over trophies and fame. His approach stands in stark contrast to other sports heroes who often disappoint fans through personal failings.
• Winning isn't Scheffler's identity – his faith provides his foundation regardless of golf outcomes
• Trophies and accomplishments are fleeting – Scheffler questions why winning matters so much
• Family comes before career – he would walk away from golf if it negatively affected his home life
• His ultimate purpose is using his talent to glorify God, not seeking fame or fortune
Take care and happy teaching,
Dave
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello and welcome to the Supersize Fizz Ad Podcast.
My name is Dave and today Iwant to talk about Scotty
Scheffler because he's soawesome and because I found a
new not hero, I don't want touse the word hero but I found a
new kind of favorite sportsfigure that's at the top of
their game, and it's definitelyScotty, without a doubt.
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So let's talk about him next.
Here we go.
Welcome in PE Nation.
So I know some of you like golf,some of you love golf, like me,
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and some of you can't standgolf, like my wife.
So wherever you are, it doesn'treally matter.
This is really about a personand a person who's number one in
the world at something and whatreally matters in life.
So first of all, I lovewatching golf.
I remember watching golf whengolf wasn't really that cool to
watch.
I mean with Jack Nicklaus andhe, I mean he was cool, but he
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was, you know, when I startedwatching he was older and he's
really old now.
Older, he's really old now andyou know I enjoyed it.
I went to a PGA tournament whenI was a kid at my dad's course.
I'm surprised, looking back,that they had a PGA event there.
I think it was a smaller event,but I remember Fuzzy Zeller was
there.
His name was kind of funny,right, fuzzy.
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So after that I was hooked.
I mean I watch it, maybe notevery weekend, but I was.
I was enjoyed watching it and Iplayed.
I've been playing since I was Idon't know six or seven and I'm
still I'm terrible or I'maverage how about that?
I'm average golfer.
But once Tiger Woods hit thescene, I mean everything just
changed the way they golf, theygolfed as far as like length and
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distance, the way they exercise, the way they ate and practice,
everything.
I mean he dominated for, youknow, 15 years, maybe not around
15, 12 to 15 years.
I mean he just dominated.
It seems like longer.
But he was hurt and we'll gointo some other stuff.
But you know, when I saw TigerI really was like man, this, I
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love following this guy, this isthis guy's awesome.
And it was just so excitingback then.
And, uh, when I lived nearCharlotte, north Carolina, for a
little bit, my friend Rickwould get his tickets to Quail
Hollow, which is what actuallyjust went there recently for the
uh, pga championship a coupleof months ago.
And back then it was just itwasn't a PGA championship, it
was a.
It was a regular event.
It was the WachoviaChampionship, which is well, I
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don't know, it was just a PGAevent.
But he was there multiple times.
We went there, tiger and myfriend Rick knew exactly where
to stand, where they would openup the ropes, because he'd been
there a bunch of times.
And on hole number one, tigerwalked right by us and I know
it's crazy, but we were almostlike the only people there.
I'm in awe thinking about, ormaybe in shock, remembering this
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time, but it's true, we werethe only ones around.
I think most of the spectatorswere up farther along, I guess,
watching some of the othergolfers, like Phil Mickelson and
some other ones were there.
But I mean it was Tiger right,and this is during his prime,
absolute prime.
He walked right by us.
I mean like we could reach outand touch him.
We did not, but you know hislook was so intense, I mean as
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he just stared straight aheadand I stood there and I was
frozen.
I mean it was crazy.
I actually wanted to say goTiger, but I couldn't.
I couldn't, the words wouldn'tcome out.
It was kind of crazy.
He just he took my breath away.
It was unreal.
And this whole thing isn't aboutTiger, this is about Scotty.
But I just want you to get thecontext of, like, oh my gosh, I
just love golf.
And you know Tiger was on topof the world.
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I mean he was young, rich, hewas number one and he seemed to
have everything all togetherright.
I mean he was just like he wasit.
I mean he had a beautiful wife,two kids and more money, toys
and trophies that I could everdream of.
But eventually it all caught upto him.
His extramarital affairs, let'sjust say, were exposed, and
that was a big deal, wereexposed, and that was a big deal
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.
His wife left him, some of hissponsors dropped him and he had
to take a leave from leaveabsence from golf.
So what I and I've read a lotabout Tiger over the years.
I've read a lot, I've watched alot.
I still, really, I just I rootfor him.
I sometimes I don't know why,because of you know my wife,
just you know, as a female, Idon't know, because of you know
my wife, just you know, as afemale, I don't know, um, she
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just can't get over theinfidelity thing, um, and I try
to separate that as far as like,well, you know, I don't know
tiger personally, I just lovewatching him golf.
But I realized, you know, whatwas missing in his life.
It was it was faith in the Lord.
Um, and I'm not, I don't knoweverything about him.
Um, you know, I don't I'm notgoing to tell you exactly what
he believes, but I, I'm prettysure he, he doesn't have that
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and, um, you know, I alwaysrefer him.
Like I said, the 2019 masterswas probably the greatest
comeback I've ever seen in mylife.
It was awesome.
If you've seen that, it wasgreat and Tiger won it.
And, uh, you know, I love his.
I still love his work ethic,his talent, his drive.
But you know, I can't evenimagine what it'd be like to be
number one in the world insomething.
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But then let's talk about Scotty, scotty Scheffler.
So Scotty's career took alittle bit slower start than
Tiger.
Tiger was like teenager and hewas just off and running.
We even knew the name Tigerbefore he really started in the
PGA.
It was just.
Everybody knew his name, atleast if you followed it.
So Scotty took a little longer,a little slower start, but in
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the past couple of years he'sbeen on a tear.
He became the number one playerin the world and recently, over
the summer, he just won hisfourth major tournament, the
Open, or they used to call itthe British Open.
But it's really just the Openand he's just like any superstar
athlete I've ever followed.
It's crazy.
He puts faith in family overgolf and success.
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I mean, he wants to win but heknows winning is fleeting and he
doesn't really seek the fameand you know I know it's like
well, okay, okay, dave, what doyou want me like?
Really, I know he wants to.
You know he's making millions,boo hoo.
But let me kind of lay out thecase for him and to me it's a
better way to live.
It's called, to me it's calledthe Scotty Scheffler way.
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So and we'll talk about theinterview he gave and it's a
couple interviews, we'll go stepby step, so let's go with the
first one.
Let me just talk about theinterview itself.
So let's make this All right.
So he's given some interviewsabout this, but he gave this and
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I'll put in the show notes.
He gave this interview whichwas like it was just kind of
unreal.
It was right before the openAgain the one he won and he was
just like, basically somebodyasked him about winning and you
know what it means to him andyou know it was all about how.
You know he struggles with whyhe wants to win so much, why is
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that so important to him?
You know why is he going out onthe road all the time, away
from his family.
You know he struggles with thatand you know he knows that
there's a bigger purpose and inthis interview he doesn't talk
about like his faith really, buthe has before and you know he's
he's basically saying hislegacy, his.
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You know the trophies,everything.
It doesn't really mean anythingunless you have faith in the
Lord, and I know I don't want totalk about that enough on here,
or as much on here, um, Ireally talk about PE stuff, but
you know, as a Christian, Ireally um, just want to put that
out there and if you're not,that's okay.
I'm just putting my faith outthere for a second, you know.
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So I'm just talking about himand if nothing else, I hope you
stick around, at least admirewhat he's saying, because I
think it's pretty important, nomatter what you believe, to put
family faith and, you know,marriage and things like that
over trophies.
So, again, you need to see thisinterview.
I've watched this interview atleast five times.
I just I think it's amazing.
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I've shared it with my kids, Ishared it with my wife, I shared
it with my friends and it'sjust something you never hear
from these top athletes likenever.
And I'll go through some of thequotes as we talk about this.
So that was the first boomer.
Just kind of an introductionthere.
So let's get on to each ofthese things that I want to
cover today.
All right?
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So the first thing, the firsttopic, is winning isn't his
identity, and I'm talking aboutScotty in this case.
So this quote I'm going to readto you is not from this past
one.
This is from a different.
This is from before the Mastersand actually he won it the
night before he won it.
This is a quote from him.
I'm going to read it.
I'm looking at my phone.
I'm going to read it word forword here.
It said my buddies told me myvictory was secure on the cross
Win or lose.
My identity is secure forever.
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And it's a Scotty talking aboutthe night before his master's
final round.
So even he knows that, even ifhe loses, his life isn't lost,
it's not over.
He has bigger plans and hislife means more than just
winning.
And you know, I've always rootedfor these top athletes.
I've rooted for I'm thinking ofthese three guys, uh, between
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Tiger, whichever I talked aboutLance Armstrong and Conor
McGregor.
I've always rooted for thembecause they, they're just,
they're awesome or they wereawesome at their craft, at their
sport and but they'll let youdown, right?
I mean they, if you knowanything about them, they, they
really, I mean Lance, let medown so badly.
I think I've talked about thatbefore on a different, like a
long time ago, podcast.
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I I bought into Lance Armstrong.
I bought, you know, I got thewristband, the yellow wristbands
, the shirts you know Livestrongthe yellow wristbands, the
shirts you know Livestrong.
I was watching the Tour deFrance all the time and, by the
way, I just started watching itagain a couple of years ago
because I took almost a 10 yearbreak from the Tour de France
because when he was, you know,he had actually admitted that he
was cheating and doping and,you know, using all these drugs
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and stuff Like that killed me.
It did I mean because I put myfaith in him.
Not, I didn't, I'm not saying Ididn't believe, you know, I
wasn't a believer back then, butlet's just say I put a lot of
faith in him because he was likethe greatest cyclist and he
represented America and we neverwe didn't have that long time
and you know, it was justawesome but and he was larger
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than life and I just but youknow, he just these people can
let you down.
Conor McGregor, I don't knowwhy I root for him, because he's
just these people are just rudeand toxic individuals.
He's got a lot of legal stuff,um, and not in a good way, um,
but I I tend to overlook some ofthese guys, their faults,
because I was like, oh, butthey're just great athletes.
But the problem is, people letyou down, even people you don't
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know.
I mean, I just these people letme down, but your faith in the
Lord won't let you down.
Okay, I mean Jesus Christ, ifyou have a relationship with him
, will not let you down.
He died for us so we can befree and spend eternity in
heaven with him, our Lord andcreator.
And so what Scotty was sayinghis identity isn't what he does.
It identity isn't what he does,it's who he believes in and
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trusts.
And I just want to say Scottybelieves that and so do I, and
that's the next boomer.
All right, the next topic iscalled when the trophies fade.
So this is another thing hesaid.
This is the recent one.
He said you win it.
Then it's like okay, what arewe going to eat for dinner?
Life goes on and he justdoesn't put a lot of stock in
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that.
He's like, well, okay, you winit and you're happy.
For a little bit it's fleeting,it's only for a few moments.
You're happy, happy, happy.
And it's like okay, now we haveto go on to the next tournament
.
Now, what's for dinner?
Do the kids need a bath?
You know there's other things.
And you know I admit I had a lotof trophies when I was a kid.
They weren't like I wasn't thegreatest athlete, but I played a
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lot of baseball.
I actually bowled a lot and youknow I had a decent amount of
trophies.
I know some were like, you know, participation trophies or
whatever, but you know theystood for dedication and hard
work and you know being thereand doing your best.
And you know, when I packed upmy stuff when I lived near
Buffalo and was going to movedown to Florida, I couldn't
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bring everything.
So I mean I threw my trophiesaway.
You know I was sad but I didn'treally.
You know, I don't know I didn'tdo anything with them anymore.
I mean I kind of wish I keptthem because they mean something
again.
But you mean I kind of wish Ikept them because they mean
something again.
But you know I just couldn'tkeep them.
And you know awards do meansomething, they just, you know I
don't always look for limelightas a teacher.
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I do appreciate the rare timesI've been recognized for my hard
work.
I've been honored at differentbanquets for my grant writing.
I've written grants for andreceived over $30,000 in
equipment for my PE program andthat's been a blessing.
And you know I love bringingnew experiences to my students.
However, I've never been ateacher of the year and you know
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, does that bother me?
Sometimes it does.
I feel like I've proved myself.
I've done this for a long time.
I'm very innovative and fun anddedicated to my students.
But I'm hardly ever nominatedand when I do, I haven't really
made it.
Or when I have been, I haven'treally made it far in the
process.
Now do I need validation?
No, but it's nice for people tosay, hey, you're the best in
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your field, at least around hereor whatever.
So you know.
But listen to Scotty, I'mtrying to get a different
perspective.
So here's another quote.
It says from him winning isfulfilling from a sense of
accomplishment, but it's notfulfilling from the deepest
places of your heart.
And I really think that defineshis perspective on medals and
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trophies.
I mean, he wants to win.
He did say that as well.
He wants his years of hard workto pay off monetarily and by
winning championships.
So you know he wants to providefor his family and you know
winning millions of dollars doeshelp, obviously.
But he does struggle with thatLike why does he want to win so
bad?
Why do we?
Because winning definesgreatness, but it's fleeting,
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it's amazing, but it doesn'tlast.
It doesn't satisfy your soulthe way your faith in the Lord
would or will.
You'll always be thirsty formore and more and more money,
trophies, recognition, andsomeday it won't even matter.
You can't bring your trophieswith you when you die.
I'm sorry, but you can decideon where you go when you die and
my recommendation is to choosewisely, all right.
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The next one is family overcareer.
And here's the quote frombefore again the open.
Recently he said I'd muchrather be a great father than a
great golfer.
If golf ever started affectingmy home life, that's going to be
the last day I play.
And again, I know he's makingmillions of dollars, I get it.
He probably could walk awayfrom golf this second and be
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fine the rest of his life.
But you know, being the best atsomething takes sacrifice.
I spend a lot of time on mycraft by myself.
I write podcasts, I createother content online.
I try to do this when, you know, early in the morning or when
the kids are asleep, or afterschool, when I have some time
before everybody gets home, and,you know, in the summer, when I
have some time and my kids aresleeping.
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Whatever, you know, my wife isa teacher.
So we, you know, we get a lotof family time together, which
is good, really good, but a lotof people don't have that.
You know they strugglefinancially.
Some parents travel for work.
You know it's just.
Sometimes it's hard.
I do work an extra job I'vetalked about before the local
arena.
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I just worked all weekend long.
Honestly, yes, after recordingthis, I worked all weekend
Search of Soleil.
I worked actually six timesThursday, friday, two on
Saturday, two on Sunday just fora little extra money.
You know it hurts that I didn'tsee my kids as much, but I did
see him all summer long and Itold him about this so that I
was going to be one weekend thatI just work a ton.
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And you know, for me I try notto let that affect my family
time.
It's hard, I get it, and Scottand his wife have a young son.
If you see that, it's reallycute.
He's on the golf course at theend.
But his goal is to separategolf and family, with family
coming first.
He doesn't want to be anambassador for golf like Rory,
or walk the red carpets likeTiger.
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He doesn't want the fame.
He just works hard at his job,plays in tournaments and goes
home to his family.
He wants to earn a living forthem and provide for them as
best as he can.
But he's prepared to walk awayat any point.
Isn't that crazy?
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He's just like.
You know what I'm done.
He doesn't want the fame orfortune, like I said, but he has
both.
He wants a solid relationshipwith his family.
That's what's most important tohim.
And again, it's easy to say.
But he's a multimillionaire,yeah, I get it, but imagine
walking away from being numberone in the world at something,
and I'm not saying he's going todo it, and he's not saying he's
going to do it a hundredpercent or anything, but he'd
rather be a better father andhusband than a golfer, and I
think that's pretty cool, allright.
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So the final point I'm trying tomake here I guess the final
topic is his ultimate purpose,and here's a, here's a quote for
me, the reason why I played, orthe reason I play, golf, is I'm
trying to glorify God and allthat he's done in my life.
And I'll tell you what legacyis a really funny thing.
And I wrote another article.
I wrote a different articleabout it, which I'm not going to
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go into now, but I'll link inthe show notes.
You want to be remembered forstuff Like you want to be
remembered because everybodywants to be remembered.
But then it's like well, whydoes it matter?
So you know one hand.
You're like oh man, I want tomake and I do.
I want to know that I made adifference in my students' lives
, that they became better peoplebecause of me, not just you
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know better at soccer orsomething, and that's important.
But you know better athletefine, awesome.
But I want them to be greatpeople and maybe just have a
little part in that.
So you know, I do struggle withlegacy and you know I think
about my grandparents a lotbecause my wife, I didn't meet
my wife until right after bothmy grandparents passed away and
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it was the same year and I'mlike, oh man, I wish they would
have met her and my kids.
And you know, I tell her and mykids about my grandparents but
like there's nothing else, likeI don't have anything of theirs.
I mean I have little trinketsof theirs and stuff, but it's
you know what I mean.
It's all that's gonna.
The memories are gonna fade andI think that's why I write and
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I podcast and stuff and I putout stuff because my kids will
have something tangible for me,you know, from me when I'm gone
or of me.
But you know what's Scottie'sperspective is glorifying the
Lord is what matters the most.
I mean he doesn't care aboutgrowing the sport.
He even says that he's not andpeople have said that about him
other golfers.
He doesn't really care aboutbeing, you know, being in the
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limelight, being on TV, but healso doesn't want to like waste
his talent.
So his talent is golf.
I wish my talent was golf.
His talent is golf and he wantsto glorify the Lord by using
his gifts to the best of hisability and maybe that that's
his platform for, you know,getting more people to go to
church or to read the Bible orand he doesn't say that
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necessarily, but him being, youknow, a prominent figure, I
guess, in culture, maybe he can.
You know that's his purpose andyou know, a prominent figure, I
guess, in culture, maybe he can.
You know that's his purpose.
And you know, just like Scotty,I feel like I'm called to be a
teacher.
You know I'm not going to be,you know, on TV and famous and
rich, and honestly I don'treally want to be on TV, but
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more money would be okay.
I'd like more money, likeeverybody.
But you know, that's my calling.
I feel like my calling from Godand I feel like that's what.
There's a quote I want to bringup at some point in a different
podcast, different thing fromChariots of Fire, where I'm
going to mess this up nowbecause I don't have it in front
of me but the main charactersays I feel God's presence when
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I run.
I feel like that's what makeshim happy, or something like
that, where you know you'redoing the right thing when
you're called for a certainpurpose and you want to glorify
the Lord in that way.
And so, you know, scotty cangolf, I can teach, I'm not going
to waste my talent, all right.
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So my final thoughts are andthis is kind of, I guess, kind
of the cowbell tip of the day is, you know, scotty just gave me
a different perspective.
I'm not saying he changed mylife, but he gave me a different
perspective.
I mean, you know, as somebodyat the top of the world at
something, he just changed theway I think about some stuff.
I mean, you know, I alwayscraved likes and comments.
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I mean, I think everybody does,even if you're not a content
creator, you want Facebook likesor you want, you know, whatever
.
And I, you know, I want to makemoney selling my products and
stuff and I want to be a leaderin my field.
You know I want, I want to beknown as the best PE teacher
these kids have ever had.
But you know, I want to alsothink about the bigger picture,
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the faith, family, and you know,my marriage, my children, my
you know, that can come.
That comes before, it shouldcome before my career and that's
the main thing I think that I'mtrying to take out of it.
I hope you get something out ofwhat I just you know again told
you about, read to you abouthis quotes, and you know that's
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it.
Again, whatever you believe, Idon't, I never judge anybody.
I don't do that.
That's not what I'm doing.
This I just love what he put outto the you know that interview
and I hope you really, ifnothing else, listen to the
interview, watch the interview.
He seems like a very humble,kind person.
No, I don't know him, althoughhe did walk right by me in that
tournament.
I got a video of it.
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He walked right by me, but Idon't know Scotty.
But I appreciate what he putout there and I hope you enjoyed
listening to this.
So, pe Nation, take care, havea great day, week, weekend,
whenever you listen to this andlet's keep pushing our
profession forward.
Thank you.
Hello and welcome to the Supersize Fizz Ad Podcast.
My name is Dave and today Iwant to talk about Scotty
Scheffler because he's soawesome and because I found a
new not hero, I don't want touse the word hero but I found a
new kind of favorite sportsfigure that's at the top of
their game, and it's definitelyScotty, without a doubt.
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So let's talk about him next.
Here we go.
Welcome in PE Nation.
So I know some of you like golf,some of you love golf, like me,
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and some of you can't standgolf, like my wife.
So wherever you are, it doesn'treally matter.
This is really about a personand a person who's number one in
the world at something and whatreally matters in life.
So first of all, I lovewatching golf.
I remember watching golf whengolf wasn't really that cool to
watch.
I mean with Jack Nicklaus andhe, I mean he was cool, but he
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was, you know, when I startedwatching he was older and he's
really old now.
Older, he's really old now andyou know I enjoyed it.
I went to a PGA tournament whenI was a kid at my dad's course.
I'm surprised, looking back,that they had a PGA event there.
I think it was a smaller event,but I remember Fuzzy Zeller was
there.
His name was kind of funny,right, fuzzy.
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So after that I was hooked.
I mean I watch it, maybe notevery weekend, but I was.
I was enjoyed watching it and Iplayed.
I've been playing since I was Idon't know six or seven and I'm
still I'm terrible or I'maverage how about that?
I'm average golfer.
But once Tiger Woods hit thescene, I mean everything just
changed the way they golf, theygolfed as far as like length and
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distance, the way they exercise, the way they ate and practice,
everything.
I mean he dominated for, youknow, 15 years, maybe not around
15, 12 to 15 years.
I mean he just dominated.
It seems like longer.
But he was hurt and we'll gointo some other stuff.
But you know, when I saw TigerI really was like man, this, I
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love following this guy, this isthis guy's awesome.
And it was just so excitingback then.
And, uh, when I lived nearCharlotte, north Carolina, for a
little bit, my friend Rickwould get his tickets to Quail
Hollow, which is what actuallyjust went there recently for the
uh, pga championship a coupleof months ago.
And back then it was just itwasn't a PGA championship, it
was a.
It was a regular event.
It was the WachoviaChampionship, which is well, I
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don't know, it was just a PGAevent.
But he was there multiple times.
We went there, tiger and myfriend Rick knew exactly where
to stand, where they would openup the ropes, because he'd been
there a bunch of times.
And on hole number one, tigerwalked right by us and I know
it's crazy, but we were almostlike the only people there.
I'm in awe thinking about, ormaybe in shock, remembering this
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time, but it's true, we werethe only ones around.
I think most of the spectatorswere up farther along, I guess,
watching some of the othergolfers, like Phil Mickelson and
some other ones were there.
But I mean it was Tiger right,and this is during his prime,
absolute prime.
He walked right by us.
I mean like we could reach outand touch him.
We did not, but you know hislook was so intense, I mean as
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he just stared straight aheadand I stood there and I was
frozen.
I mean it was crazy.
I actually wanted to say goTiger, but I couldn't.
I couldn't, the words wouldn'tcome out.
It was kind of crazy.
He just he took my breath away.
It was unreal.
And this whole thing isn't aboutTiger, this is about Scotty.
But I just want you to get thecontext of, like, oh my gosh, I
just love golf.
And you know Tiger was on topof the world.
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I mean he was young, rich, hewas number one and he seemed to
have everything all togetherright.
I mean he was just like he wasit.
I mean he had a beautiful wife,two kids and more money, toys
and trophies that I could everdream of.
But eventually it all caught upto him.
His extramarital affairs, let'sjust say, were exposed, and
that was a big deal, wereexposed, and that was a big deal
(04:27):
.
His wife left him, some of hissponsors dropped him and he had
to take a leave from leaveabsence from golf.
So what I and I've read a lotabout Tiger over the years.
I've read a lot, I've watched alot.
I still, really, I just I rootfor him.
I sometimes I don't know why,because of you know my wife,
just you know, as a female, Idon't know, because of you know
my wife, just you know, as afemale, I don't know, um, she
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just can't get over theinfidelity thing, um, and I try
to separate that as far as like,well, you know, I don't know
tiger personally, I just lovewatching him golf.
But I realized, you know, whatwas missing in his life.
It was it was faith in the Lord.
Um, and I'm not, I don't knoweverything about him.
Um, you know, I don't I'm notgoing to tell you exactly what
he believes, but I, I'm prettysure he, he doesn't have that
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and, um, you know, I alwaysrefer him.
Like I said, the 2019 masterswas probably the greatest
comeback I've ever seen in mylife.
It was awesome.
If you've seen that, it wasgreat and Tiger won it.
And, uh, you know, I love his.
I still love his work ethic,his talent, his drive.
But you know, I can't evenimagine what it'd be like to be
number one in the world insomething.
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But then let's talk about Scotty, scotty Scheffler.
So Scotty's career took alittle bit slower start than
Tiger.
Tiger was like teenager and hewas just off and running.
We even knew the name Tigerbefore he really started in the
PGA.
It was just.
Everybody knew his name, atleast if you followed it.
So Scotty took a little longer,a little slower start, but in
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the past couple of years he'sbeen on a tear.
He became the number one playerin the world and recently, over
the summer, he just won hisfourth major tournament, the
Open, or they used to call itthe British Open.
But it's really just the Openand he's just like any superstar
athlete I've ever followed.
It's crazy.
He puts faith in family overgolf and success.
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I mean, he wants to win but heknows winning is fleeting and he
doesn't really seek the fameand you know I know it's like
well, okay, okay, dave, what doyou want me like?
Really, I know he wants to.
You know he's making millions,boo hoo.
But let me kind of lay out thecase for him and to me it's a
better way to live.
It's called, to me it's calledthe Scotty Scheffler way.
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So and we'll talk about theinterview he gave and it's a
couple interviews, we'll go stepby step, so let's go with the
first one.
Let me just talk about theinterview itself.
So let's make this All right.
So he's given some interviewsabout this, but he gave this and
(06:52):
I'll put in the show notes.
He gave this interview whichwas like it was just kind of
unreal.
It was right before the openAgain the one he won and he was
just like, basically somebodyasked him about winning and you
know what it means to him andyou know it was all about how.
You know he struggles with whyhe wants to win so much, why is
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that so important to him?
You know why is he going out onthe road all the time, away
from his family.
You know he struggles with thatand you know he knows that
there's a bigger purpose and inthis interview he doesn't talk
about like his faith really, buthe has before and you know he's
he's basically saying hislegacy, his.
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You know the trophies,everything.
It doesn't really mean anythingunless you have faith in the
Lord, and I know I don't want totalk about that enough on here,
or as much on here, um, Ireally talk about PE stuff, but
you know, as a Christian, Ireally um, just want to put that
out there and if you're not,that's okay.
I'm just putting my faith outthere for a second, you know.
(07:54):
So I'm just talking about himand if nothing else, I hope you
stick around, at least admirewhat he's saying, because I
think it's pretty important, nomatter what you believe, to put
family faith and, you know,marriage and things like that
over trophies.
So, again, you need to see thisinterview.
I've watched this interview atleast five times.
I just I think it's amazing.
(08:15):
I've shared it with my kids, Ishared it with my wife, I shared
it with my friends and it'sjust something you never hear
from these top athletes likenever.
And I'll go through some of thequotes as we talk about this.
So that was the first boomer.
Just kind of an introductionthere.
So let's get on to each ofthese things that I want to
cover today.
All right?
(08:39):
So the first thing, the firsttopic, is winning isn't his
identity, and I'm talking aboutScotty in this case.
So this quote I'm going to readto you is not from this past
one.
This is from a different.
This is from before the Mastersand actually he won it the
night before he won it.
This is a quote from him.
I'm going to read it.
I'm looking at my phone.
I'm going to read it word forword here.
It said my buddies told me myvictory was secure on the cross
Win or lose.
My identity is secure forever.
(09:00):
And it's a Scotty talking aboutthe night before his master's
final round.
So even he knows that, even ifhe loses, his life isn't lost,
it's not over.
He has bigger plans and hislife means more than just
winning.
And you know, I've always rootedfor these top athletes.
I've rooted for I'm thinking ofthese three guys, uh, between
(09:21):
Tiger, whichever I talked aboutLance Armstrong and Conor
McGregor.
I've always rooted for thembecause they, they're just,
they're awesome or they wereawesome at their craft, at their
sport and but they'll let youdown, right?
I mean they, if you knowanything about them, they, they
really, I mean Lance, let medown so badly.
I think I've talked about thatbefore on a different, like a
long time ago, podcast.
(09:42):
I I bought into Lance Armstrong.
I bought, you know, I got thewristband, the yellow wristbands
, the shirts you know Livestrongthe yellow wristbands, the
shirts you know Livestrong.
I was watching the Tour deFrance all the time and, by the
way, I just started watching itagain a couple of years ago
because I took almost a 10 yearbreak from the Tour de France
because when he was, you know,he had actually admitted that he
was cheating and doping and,you know, using all these drugs
(10:04):
and stuff Like that killed me.
It did I mean because I put myfaith in him.
Not, I didn't, I'm not saying Ididn't believe, you know, I
wasn't a believer back then, butlet's just say I put a lot of
faith in him because he was likethe greatest cyclist and he
represented America and we neverwe didn't have that long time
and you know, it was justawesome but and he was larger
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than life and I just but youknow, he just these people can
let you down.
Conor McGregor, I don't knowwhy I root for him, because he's
just these people are just rudeand toxic individuals.
He's got a lot of legal stuff,um, and not in a good way, um,
but I I tend to overlook some ofthese guys, their faults,
because I was like, oh, butthey're just great athletes.
But the problem is, people letyou down, even people you don't
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know.
I mean, I just these people letme down, but your faith in the
Lord won't let you down.
Okay, I mean Jesus Christ, ifyou have a relationship with him
, will not let you down.
He died for us so we can befree and spend eternity in
heaven with him, our Lord andcreator.
And so what Scotty was sayinghis identity isn't what he does.
It identity isn't what he does,it's who he believes in and
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trusts.
And I just want to say Scottybelieves that and so do I, and
that's the next boomer.
All right, the next topic iscalled when the trophies fade.
So this is another thing hesaid.
This is the recent one.
He said you win it.
Then it's like okay, what arewe going to eat for dinner?
Life goes on and he justdoesn't put a lot of stock in
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that.
He's like, well, okay, you winit and you're happy.
For a little bit it's fleeting,it's only for a few moments.
You're happy, happy, happy.
And it's like okay, now we haveto go on to the next tournament
.
Now, what's for dinner?
Do the kids need a bath?
You know there's other things.
And you know I admit I had a lotof trophies when I was a kid.
They weren't like I wasn't thegreatest athlete, but I played a
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lot of baseball.
I actually bowled a lot and youknow I had a decent amount of
trophies.
I know some were like, you know, participation trophies or
whatever, but you know theystood for dedication and hard
work and you know being thereand doing your best.
And you know, when I packed upmy stuff when I lived near
Buffalo and was going to movedown to Florida, I couldn't
(12:19):
bring everything.
So I mean I threw my trophiesaway.
You know I was sad but I didn'treally.
You know, I don't know I didn'tdo anything with them anymore.
I mean I kind of wish I keptthem because they mean something
again.
But you mean I kind of wish Ikept them because they mean
something again.
But you know I just couldn'tkeep them.
And you know awards do meansomething, they just, you know I
don't always look for limelightas a teacher.
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I do appreciate the rare timesI've been recognized for my hard
work.
I've been honored at differentbanquets for my grant writing.
I've written grants for andreceived over $30,000 in
equipment for my PE program andthat's been a blessing.
And you know I love bringingnew experiences to my students.
However, I've never been ateacher of the year and you know
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, does that bother me?
Sometimes it does.
I feel like I've proved myself.
I've done this for a long time.
I'm very innovative and fun anddedicated to my students.
But I'm hardly ever nominatedand when I do, I haven't really
made it.
Or when I have been, I haven'treally made it far in the
process.
Now do I need validation?
No, but it's nice for people tosay, hey, you're the best in
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your field, at least around hereor whatever.
So you know.
But listen to Scotty, I'mtrying to get a different
perspective.
So here's another quote.
It says from him winning isfulfilling from a sense of
accomplishment, but it's notfulfilling from the deepest
places of your heart.
And I really think that defineshis perspective on medals and
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trophies.
I mean, he wants to win.
He did say that as well.
He wants his years of hard workto pay off monetarily and by
winning championships.
So you know he wants to providefor his family and you know
winning millions of dollars doeshelp, obviously.
But he does struggle with thatLike why does he want to win so
bad?
Why do we?
Because winning definesgreatness, but it's fleeting,
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it's amazing, but it doesn'tlast.
It doesn't satisfy your soulthe way your faith in the Lord
would or will.
You'll always be thirsty formore and more and more money,
trophies, recognition, andsomeday it won't even matter.
You can't bring your trophieswith you when you die.
I'm sorry, but you can decideon where you go when you die and
my recommendation is to choosewisely, all right.
(14:31):
The next one is family overcareer.
And here's the quote frombefore again the open.
Recently he said I'd muchrather be a great father than a
great golfer.
If golf ever started affectingmy home life, that's going to be
the last day I play.
And again, I know he's makingmillions of dollars, I get it.
He probably could walk awayfrom golf this second and be
(14:53):
fine the rest of his life.
But you know, being the best atsomething takes sacrifice.
I spend a lot of time on mycraft by myself.
I write podcasts, I createother content online.
I try to do this when, you know, early in the morning or when
the kids are asleep, or afterschool, when I have some time
before everybody gets home, and,you know, in the summer, when I
have some time and my kids aresleeping.
(15:14):
Whatever, you know, my wife isa teacher.
So we, you know, we get a lotof family time together, which
is good, really good, but a lotof people don't have that.
You know they strugglefinancially.
Some parents travel for work.
You know it's just.
Sometimes it's hard.
I do work an extra job I'vetalked about before the local
arena.
(15:34):
I just worked all weekend long.
Honestly, yes, after recordingthis, I worked all weekend
Search of Soleil.
I worked actually six timesThursday, friday, two on
Saturday, two on Sunday just fora little extra money.
You know it hurts that I didn'tsee my kids as much, but I did
see him all summer long and Itold him about this so that I
was going to be one weekend thatI just work a ton.
(15:56):
And you know, for me I try notto let that affect my family
time.
It's hard, I get it, and Scottand his wife have a young son.
If you see that, it's reallycute.
He's on the golf course at theend.
But his goal is to separategolf and family, with family
coming first.
He doesn't want to be anambassador for golf like Rory,
or walk the red carpets likeTiger.
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He doesn't want the fame.
He just works hard at his job,plays in tournaments and goes
home to his family.
He wants to earn a living forthem and provide for them as
best as he can.
But he's prepared to walk awayat any point.
Isn't that crazy?
(16:38):
He's just like.
You know what I'm done.
He doesn't want the fame orfortune, like I said, but he has
both.
He wants a solid relationshipwith his family.
That's what's most important tohim.
And again, it's easy to say.
But he's a multimillionaire,yeah, I get it, but imagine
walking away from being numberone in the world at something,
and I'm not saying he's going todo it, and he's not saying he's
going to do it a hundredpercent or anything, but he'd
rather be a better father andhusband than a golfer, and I
think that's pretty cool, allright.
(17:03):
So the final point I'm trying tomake here I guess the final
topic is his ultimate purpose,and here's a, here's a quote for
me, the reason why I played, orthe reason I play, golf, is I'm
trying to glorify God and allthat he's done in my life.
And I'll tell you what legacyis a really funny thing.
And I wrote another article.
I wrote a different articleabout it, which I'm not going to
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go into now, but I'll link inthe show notes.
You want to be remembered forstuff Like you want to be
remembered because everybodywants to be remembered.
But then it's like well, whydoes it matter?
So you know one hand.
You're like oh man, I want tomake and I do.
I want to know that I made adifference in my students' lives
, that they became better peoplebecause of me, not just you
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know better at soccer orsomething, and that's important.
But you know better athletefine, awesome.
But I want them to be greatpeople and maybe just have a
little part in that.
So you know, I do struggle withlegacy and you know I think
about my grandparents a lotbecause my wife, I didn't meet
my wife until right after bothmy grandparents passed away and
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it was the same year and I'mlike, oh man, I wish they would
have met her and my kids.
And you know, I tell her and mykids about my grandparents but
like there's nothing else, likeI don't have anything of theirs.
I mean I have little trinketsof theirs and stuff, but it's
you know what I mean.
It's all that's gonna.
The memories are gonna fade andI think that's why I write and
(18:26):
I podcast and stuff and I putout stuff because my kids will
have something tangible for me,you know, from me when I'm gone
or of me.
But you know what's Scottie'sperspective is glorifying the
Lord is what matters the most.
I mean he doesn't care aboutgrowing the sport.
He even says that he's not andpeople have said that about him
other golfers.
He doesn't really care aboutbeing, you know, being in the
(18:46):
limelight, being on TV, but healso doesn't want to like waste
his talent.
So his talent is golf.
I wish my talent was golf.
His talent is golf and he wantsto glorify the Lord by using
his gifts to the best of hisability and maybe that that's
his platform for, you know,getting more people to go to
church or to read the Bible orand he doesn't say that
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necessarily, but him being, youknow, a prominent figure, I
guess, in culture, maybe he can.
You know that's his purpose andyou know, a prominent figure, I
guess, in culture, maybe he can.
You know that's his purpose.
And you know, just like Scotty,I feel like I'm called to be a
teacher.
You know I'm not going to be,you know, on TV and famous and
rich, and honestly I don'treally want to be on TV, but
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more money would be okay.
I'd like more money, likeeverybody.
But you know, that's my calling.
I feel like my calling from Godand I feel like that's what.
There's a quote I want to bringup at some point in a different
podcast, different thing fromChariots of Fire, where I'm
going to mess this up nowbecause I don't have it in front
of me but the main charactersays I feel God's presence when
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I run.
I feel like that's what makeshim happy, or something like
that, where you know you'redoing the right thing when
you're called for a certainpurpose and you want to glorify
the Lord in that way.
And so, you know, scotty cangolf, I can teach, I'm not going
to waste my talent, all right.
(20:14):
So my final thoughts are andthis is kind of, I guess, kind
of the cowbell tip of the day is, you know, scotty just gave me
a different perspective.
I'm not saying he changed mylife, but he gave me a different
perspective.
I mean, you know, as somebodyat the top of the world at
something, he just changed theway I think about some stuff.
I mean, you know, I alwayscraved likes and comments.
(20:37):
I mean, I think everybody does,even if you're not a content
creator, you want Facebook likesor you want, you know, whatever
.
And I, you know, I want to makemoney selling my products and
stuff and I want to be a leaderin my field.
You know I want, I want to beknown as the best PE teacher
these kids have ever had.
But you know, I want to alsothink about the bigger picture,
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the faith, family, and you know,my marriage, my children, my
you know, that can come.
That comes before, it shouldcome before my career and that's
the main thing I think that I'mtrying to take out of it.
I hope you get something out ofwhat I just you know again told
you about, read to you abouthis quotes, and you know that's
(21:19):
it.
Again, whatever you believe, Idon't, I never judge anybody.
I don't do that.
That's not what I'm doing.
This I just love what he put outto the you know that interview
and I hope you really, ifnothing else, listen to the
interview, watch the interview.
He seems like a very humble,kind person.
No, I don't know him, althoughhe did walk right by me in that
tournament.
I got a video of it.
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He walked right by me, but Idon't know Scotty.
But I appreciate what he putout there and I hope you enjoyed
listening to this.
So, pe Nation, take care, havea great day, week, weekend,
whenever you listen to this andlet's keep pushing our
profession forward.
Thank you.
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