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The Lakers snap their four-game losing streak with a win against the Suns while maintaining their position in a tightly contested Western Conference.

• Lakers finding team identity even with LeBron James out of the lineup
• Jackson Hayes emerging as an effective big man in the pick-and-roll with Luka Dončić
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'll rise.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
All rise.
The pod is back in session.
What a blessing.
Welcome.
We back All over again to theSupreme Court basketball podcast
.
There it is, let's go, let's go, let's go.
Me and the boys Fellas howy'all doing.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
What up?
What up?
It's your boy Reback and herMike.
We back up in there.
Yes, sir, yes sir, on thislovely Selection Sunday, we back
here with another one.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, about that.
A little rough for my guys, butwe'll get into that.
Hey, we appreciate you guyscoming back for another episode
of the Supreme Court BasketballPodcast.
I am Chris with my two brothersfrom another mother.
What's going on with this bigbear Are we?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
good, you know, man, this is a great Sunday.
Y'all know this is great.
I ain't got to go off and keeptelling y'all that every week.
Y'all know my voice by now.
You better Y'all sure.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
You would hope.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
That means you've been back more than once.
Right, right, right.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Right, you know the players.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Good time, you know, the playersakers finally getting
back in the win column beatingthe suns man the suns snapping
that four game skid.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Had to get that out the way.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Four game skid was rough I'm sitting fifth place
right, but luca goes off asusual.
He's starting to come backaround.
I'm liking that.
I'm liking seeing where thisteam could be and it's actually
kind of nice.
I'm finding the silver liningin Bron being out right now
because Luka is having to leadthis specific team and really I

(02:13):
think one of the bigger shocksis that I'm really feeling
Jackson Hayes.
Jackson Hayes is actually.
He's turning out to be that bigman that that Luka needed.
You feel it when he's not onthe floor.
I don't know if you guys sawtoday, but the way his pick and
roll, I'm like OK, this, thismight be, this might be

(02:33):
something you get really back.
You get everybody healthy.
I think this could be somethingworth looking at.
What's your thoughts, bear?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
You know what I was thinking the same thing.
I mean, I hated that four gameskid, but you know what,
realistically, thinking aboutwho we were playing and the
caliber of level of teams thatwe were playing, yeah, it was a
tall feat being that we're gonnahave.
We weren't gonna have at leastone game luke and lebron and
he's missing, yeah, and then weend up really so I right, and.
But at the end of the day,though, I'm gonna say this, to

(03:03):
say this, and I it was, you know, for me at least, and I think
I'm pretty sure the coaches it,it, it.
It was heartwarming to see that, damn, look at us.
I mean, we lost, but we werefighting up in there and I think
that we could cause.
We're going to need these guysin the playoffs, right, we're
going to need the Austin Reeves,these guys in the playoffs
right, we're going to need theAustin Reeves, we're going to
need, you know, the FinneySmiths and everybody to kind of

(03:26):
contribute more.
Because and really lookingforward to, like the top tier
team, obviously OKC, the gamesthat we lost, I didn't.
The takeaway from those gameswasn't like, oh man, like we
look bad.
It was just expected, but itwas still with the mindset of
thinking, man, if we were atfull strength, we just I think
we'd whoop them, especially whenyou look at, you know, most

(03:47):
recently, you know, noticeably,the denver game.
I thought that was surprisingto me.
That was, yeah, they were gonnacrumble.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
But to see, and what you're finding is that you know,
sometimes you look at startstudded teams, but the other
times, what you really need tolook at is do the pieces fit?
And I think for the first timein a long time probably since
that, since that championship weactually have feet, pieces that
fit, even though they may notbe the names that you're

(04:14):
accustomed to, they may not bethe ones you thought you wanted
or needed, but they're actuallystarting to work out what you
think.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Rey I thought it was uh, obviously you got to, you
got to snap that skit.
You know lakers had been on anice tear during february, uh,
in which we saw lebron, to myknowledge, be like the oldest
winner of the player of themonth, which is yeah you string
it up for those long and duringthe season that puts you in mvp

(04:40):
contention, right, but uh, thiswas one of those growing pains
they had to go through withLeBron out of the lineup and
this is like you said.
I needed Luka to show me hecould man the fort in LeBron's
absence and he's done a decentenough job.
I'm still waiting for, likeRobert talked about last week,
I'm waiting on that Luka game,that monster game.

(05:02):
I thought he would have had itagainst maybe a Milwaukee
Definitely would have came aliveagainst Brooklyn, but it worked
out the way it did and they gotthe win today against I won't
say a lowly Phoenix Suns team,but certainly not one of the
best in the West.
That's just in terms of recordthis year and again we'll

(05:23):
definitely touch on that howthat team has looked this year
again or something right?
Yeah, that's yeah, and we'lldefinitely touch on that how how
that team is to look this year,considering all the money has
gone into them and and the starpower that they have to now be
outside of, outside of play, incontention.
That's crazy enough in and ofitself, but um, that squad, yeah
, yeah with that squad, withthat payroll, everything going
on in phoenix, you thought theywould have had a lot more
success.
But it goes to show you youmentioned this, Robert, and I

(05:47):
thought we wouldn't see it untilthe end of the season possibly
I thought the Lakers would stayin firm command of second or
third, but I forget that theWest is so tight, Three, four
games can slide you down tofifth, where they currently sit.
It ain't nothing for you to gofrom two to five.
That, to me, was the bigsurprise.
I said well, the Lakers are infifth.
Damn how quickly we werecelebrating them being just last

(06:11):
week.
We were celebrating them beingin second place at that point,
and we know Denver had takenover after they hit that
two-game skid against Boston andthen Brooklyn.
But Denver had lost a game ortwo in that time.
But yeah, it don't take much,but this is definitely a
much-needed win.
It definitely has to go wellfor Luka's confidence and

(06:36):
LeBron's confidence and himright.
So again, it's a growing pain,but hey, it's one of those
needed transitions, it's got tohappen.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, I think the crazy part is that I want to say
they are only two games, maybethree, behind in the win column
from second place.
So even with a four game skidyou look at the standings,
there's still literally a coupleof games behind, which speaks
to your point, rhea, is youreally just don't have a lot of
room.
So I think if the Lakers canget healthy and still hang on to

(07:09):
fifth or sixth here in the nextweek or two, get everybody back
, get ramped back up rightbefore the playoffs.
I think that's best casescenario.
Because to be that close and tonot really be that far behind
in the record because I thinkthat's the hardest part, and to
not really be that far behind inthe record Because I think
that's the hardest part when youstart to pile wins and somebody
has four more wins and fourless losses, now you have a

(07:30):
problem.
But to be basically in the mixwhere, hey, a couple shots fall
here and maybe you guys are inthird right now, but it leaves
you hope that they can stillplay Bear to your point, I think
they still compete even withouthaving that full roster and
that full lineup, which issomething that in the past we
couldn't do.
When it was just AD and it wasBron, if one of them was out, it

(07:51):
was a wrap, it was a good lookon.
You didn't feel like, yeah,there was much of a chance.
Now you see people and I thinkeven for the role players
they're starting to see theirvalue.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Your thoughts- Bear, you know, I think that, when it
comes down to it, it'sencouraging from everybody and I
think it's actually scaring theleague when you think about it,
because they said, you know,this Lakers squad is competing
against the top teams in theWest and they're, you know,
going to the end and this was,like I said, one game without,
you know, three of our topstarters With three of our

(08:22):
starters, and one thing I willsay is our rookie and and Reeves
between those two guys.
Yeah, I'm really loving whatI'm seeing because and reason, I
mean, he stepped up so much and, like I said, he's going to be
a key factor coming into theplayoffs because he's and when
you see that and you see LeBronJames not playing, I think that
everybody, the Lakers, areputting, you know, the rest of

(08:44):
the league on notice, like whenwe're at full strength, because
I think LeBron James is okay.
Actually, I think at this point, he's just going to go ahead,
give it, you know, extra rest.
Do we, you know, and wait tillthe playoffs maybe, like, maybe
the last week of the season comeback to kind of get back into
the flow and the rhythm ofthings so we can go in now I

(09:06):
it's got to get back into theflow and the rhythm of things so
we can go in Now.
I don't, I do.
I'd rather take that secondspot.
I don't want to drop down andstay down fifth, sixth, because
we're going to end up playing.
I don't want to.
Basically I don't want to playOKC first round or anything like
that.
I don't want that to happen.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
But we're looking great.
I'd want to avoid too.
I'm saying too.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
You know I'm saying yeah, but I don't you.
Yeah, I'm saying I'm thinkingman, I'm telling you, I think,
at full strength, I think we canwhoop denver.
I'm not impressed um baby, it'sjust me, I'm not, they're not
the nuggets of old.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
The problem is there is something about the psyche of
a team who dominates and andluca even mentioned it it uh
himself that everybody gets upfor the Lakers.
He pointed out the fact thatthat's real Like being in the
league and he's like I've playedin some games, I've been some
play, but everybody gets up forus and I think that becomes
harder because even to thatpoint we got the last time we

(09:59):
beat Denver it was by committee,it was, you know, help side, it
was a lot of those things.
The question is, can yousustain that for seven games?
And I don't know yet if we'rethere yet, just because of the
lack of time the guys have had?
Yeah Well, I do think we oh goahead man.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Go ahead Barry.
What are you saying, phil?
Do you think that there's a?
I mean because we do lookdifferent, you know.
But do you think that we'vechanged and maybe turned that
corner when it comes to beingable to play consistent ball?
You know, team ball that'snecessary for the playoffs, you
know.
Do you think that you feel moreconfident, or?

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I definitely feel more confident because my
biggest issue with the Lakers inthe past has been the fact that
they didn't have an identityRight.
That was always my biggestcritique of Darvin ham's team,
where it was just like I don'tknow, and I knew that, uh, I was
correcting that because you hadpeople like ad coming out like
yeah, I don't know what we'redoing either.
So when you got the playerscoming out, just right right,

(10:59):
your guess is good as mine.
Let's all shake the magic eightball and see what shakes down
this week.
It's like, okay, that's aproblem.
I do think, collectively,there's more energy around
defense.
I think their help side isbetter and I think getting
Dorian Finney-Smith out therewith Rui when he's available, I
think now you have guys who canactually switch and that was one

(11:21):
of their biggest issues.
The perimeter Even thoughJackson Hayes is not AD he's
still long, he's lanky, he'sactive.
Even Christian Coloco when hegets in, it's like okay, you got
some pieces there that they'remaybe not as polished or as good
, but at least I know they havean identity and they have a game
plan.
So yeah, to answer yourquestion, I definitely think
they've turned a corner.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
I was going to say, say I was gonna jump in a while
ago and say I'll do you onebetter and this is a bit of a
surprise coming from me maybe.
Um, I think the lakers, healthyonce they figure it out is well
, it shouldn't come as asurprise when you got lebron and
you got lebron and the don,yeah, I think they could at
least get out of the west.
Like, obviously, you knowstyles make fights, so the
matchup matters first round, uhfor sure you definitely want a

(12:10):
bit of an easier test, right,and it progressively gets more
competitive and harder,obviously.
But I think the lakers asconstructed now that we've seen
luca pull out a win, solo bola,without lebron in the lineup,
once LeBron gets back, that onlyfortifies him even more.
You don't get worse becauseLeBron's back in the lineup.
Austin Reeves up until tonight'sgame, has been averaging about

(12:32):
21 points.
I think he's averaging acareer-high 19 a game.
Dalton Connect is giving youdouble digits.
They've been two of the mostconsistent third and fourth
options on any team that I'veseen in a while.
Like there has been few gamesin this stretch wins or lose,
whether it was that eight gamestreak or it's been the four
game loss streak.
Austin reeves and daltonconnect have come to play and

(12:56):
and to your point, you got guyslike jackson haves who are now,
you know again, he's long, hecan run the floor, um, he can,
he can, he can block some shots.
Excellent in pick and roll,definitely, which makes him a
great lob threat, which isreally.
He just needed somebody likelike he needed lebron and luca
willing passer willing passerswho can make him more more of a

(13:17):
lob threat than he already iswith his long, his length and
athleticism.
So you definitely, definitelyget the most out of me.
You're seeing that now, butagain you're getting I always
touch on this when you get keycontributions from guys deep in
your lineup, that definitelybodes in your favor.
When you start to get guys likecoloco, you get guys like
jordan goodwin, you get guys whowho make the in all nbas, who

(13:41):
who do they play for squadcontributing this late in the
season, those are good signs.
And again you got Luka holdingit down in LeBron's absence.
I'm pulling out a.
It depends on who you talk towhether this is a real quality
win, but a win nonetheless.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Right, you get back in that W column.
That's never a bad thing.
That's what you need.
Right, that's what you need.
He's damn near going for atriple-double.
He by himself was moreimpressive than KD and Book
combined.
This game, just about right.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Reeves versus Book and KD Right, yeah, they were 21
points better than them.
Right, a couple assists betterthan them, a rebound better than
the two of them, three stealsbetter than them.
Yeah, even that speaks to and Iknow we're talking about the
Lakers.
But the other side of that isKD I think we all can agree is a

(14:33):
generational player when itcomes to the game, no doubt.
But is he worth it?
At this point, is it worthtaking a chance on him?
Specifically Because when hewent to Brooklyn, I thought,
okay, the Warriors we knew was acheat code because he had he,
he was dropped into something.
Proven Brooklyn, I thought, washim getting what he was
actually looking for?

(14:54):
That chance to prove that?
Yeah, I really am that guy thatwent over like a turd in a
punch bowl, but, um, when thathappened, it was like okay okay,
so now here we are in phoenix.
You, you would up and risingdevin booker bradley bill turned
out to not be.
You know what, what everybodyexpected, but you know what I

(15:16):
mean like, did he?

Speaker 3 (15:17):
or is he at about where we thought he was in
comparison to d book and daviddurant?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
right it was right I romanticizing him with two other
superstars.
That led us to believe thiscould be more, but you're right.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I think the skepticism is warranted.
Listen, what we now know andwhat we can really affirmatively
say is that KD cannot be thecenterpiece, and this is why I
say that, because you're goingto have to have someone that is
a true leader.
And this is why I say that,because you're going to have to
have someone that is a trueleader.
Now, when you look at theexploded view of his career thus
far, the problem with OKC wasnot having the guy there that

(15:52):
really could have kept thattogether, because they were
looking at KD to be that guy.
But remember, we got toremember why he went to Golden
State Because they crumbled,they had that series in the bag
and lost it.
But he was supposed to be theguy.
Who's supposed to be the leader.
And I think that's part of theissue that we have with KD is
his leadership qualities and Ithink, from a superstar

(16:14):
standpoint, I don't know thelast time we've seen a guy of
his skillset and stature in theleague being a superstar but
lacking when it comes toleadership qualities.
That much he it's so bad and I,as a team, I don't think you
bring him in unless you havesomeone that's a true leader.
You can't, because, if not,you're gonna have a problem.

(16:36):
He's listen, you're gonna winsome games, but when you have
face adversity, it's gonna falloff.
He's not gonna be the guythat's gonna push them through.
He's going to be the guy that'sgoing to push them through.
He's not going to be the guythat's going to rally the troops
, even like they have like athree, four game skid, and try
to get things on track.
I think that I don't know, maybeit was just me.
He was in the best, he was inthe best situation but he let if

(16:59):
anyone I know we talk about,you know, people talk about
LeBron James dealing withcertain things and can't deal
with the, you know, the mediaand things.
I think he's that KD, sosensitive.
He was trying to.
That's the reason why he leftso he could quote unquote, kind
of shut the people up, but hedidn't get a chance to.
You went to, you went to youknow.
I mean, man, you went toBrooklyn, had a super squad and

(17:23):
y'all felt, yeah, I mean we cantalk about the big toe being on
the line and everything, but wethought they were going to
dominate the postseason.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Even with that.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Right On paper.
So I don't know.
I think it's warranted and Ithink, depending on what happens
in the playoff, if they, howabout this?
I'll say it If they don't makethe playoff, he's not worth it
anymore.
I mean, think about it.
You don't stay in a time wherethere's a play in, you have more
than one, more than one way toget into the playoff with that

(17:56):
team with d book, and you can'tget.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
nah, I'm cool like mike budenholzer at the helm.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I think we gotta start looking at him, even when
it's all said and done from hislegacy.
There's a big tarnish on thatthing.
I'm sorry, you take away youknow what I mean.
You gotta take away the GoldenState.
What has he done before GoldenState?
And after, what has he done?

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I want to be fair to KD, because we tend to forget
that Brooklyn team was up 2-0 inthat final, in that playoff
series, and they didn't.
They looked to be prettyunbeatable before kairi irving
went out with that injury.
Kevin I mean kd got some badbreaks in in new jersey.
In new jersey, brooklyn, forsure uh, there's the the toe on

(18:42):
the line.
It was just a series of badbreaks that I don't want to pin
all of it on him, thoughunfortunately, you know,
whenever you're the man you getyour unfair share of credit
Right and it breaks both ways,you'll get an unfair share of
blame too when it doesn't go theway it's supposed to right,
right way it's supposed to right.

(19:02):
And as much as I get that andI've said this about KD time and
time again and I don't want toI don't want to use the wrong
term when describing what Ithink his personality type is I
thought Kyrie was one of theseguys too.
When I use terms likemalcontent and maybe he's not a
malcontent as much as he's a guywho absolutely needs everything

(19:23):
to work out optimally, whereeverything has to go just right
for Katie, you know what I mean.
He needs everything to go rightto have the most optimal result
which, unlike any othersuperstar who doesn't need

(19:45):
everything to break their way,katie seems to need everything
and he either grows bored, heloses.
You can tell there are timeswhere he almost loses his
passion.
He just loses his drive.
He just katie, just justdepending on the situation that
he's in, whether he's happy ornot.
And then again I don't knowthis whole happiness thing and

(20:05):
professional sports is kind of aweird thing to me.
You know what I mean?
It's it's you're gonna be insome winning situations, you're
gonna be in some losing, but youmake the best of it.
Dame Lillard spent a lot of timetoiling in Portland trying to
get that team somewhere, but younever thought for one second it
was for lack of effort.
Never once did you did youknock Dame and say he was not

(20:26):
trying, he was not competing.
There are times when I look atKatie he looks withdrawn,
disinterested, disengaged.
It feels like his heart isn'tin it.
So he cannot perform at hispeak.
That's my problem with KD, andit's been too often where his
skill set was maximized on ateam like Golden State.
Because he is a great shooter,he's surrounded by other

(20:47):
shooters and great defensiveplayers and a coach and a
culture.
But if you take him out of thatand you put him on a team where
he has to be the guyunquestionably I don't, I don't
know sometime and this has kindof proven that, like, his
leadership qualities have beencalled into question, and for
good reason.

(21:07):
And I hate to do that to katie.
I think we can be unfair tokatie at times, but this time I
think it's kind of warranted.
You d book and d book has toaccept some responsibility times
, but this time I think it'skind of warranted.
You d book and d book has toaccept some responsibility too
for this team.
I thought he was going to turna corner and be this, this kobe
protege.
We all saw him as at one point,yeah, and then we haven't heard
much.
We haven't seen much of that,that d book, in a while.

(21:28):
Bradley bill I I can hardlyreally.
I mean, how much of the otherblame plied do I cut for him?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (21:35):
he's good, he's getting small slice, you're on
the team, you're one of thebetter players, but you got to
be in the bakery in order to geta slice, exactly, but we're
being realistic I didn't counton you to be to do a whole lot,
so I can't really put a lot onyou.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
You know what I'm saying, like for real that man?

Speaker 1 (21:48):
is that man knocking on the door on the outside?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Yeah, with no trade clause and everything.
So yeah, yeah, well, I meanwe'll see what happens.
I don't have too muchconfidence.
Like I said, they are thenumber 11 seed.
11th seed we are the 5 seed.
So, looking at WesternConference standings, the
Rockets are our 2 seed at 43-25.

(22:11):
The Nuggets are the 3 seed at43-25.
Wow, the Nuggets are the threeseed at 43 and 25.
The Grizzlies are the four seedat 43 and 25.
And the Lakers are the fifthseed at 51 and 25.
All you need is just and thenthe Thunder are at 55 and 12.
There's no catching them.
That's crap.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
It's academic at this point.
They pretty much clinched.
They're going to win.
The West, yeah, and the leagueFor sure, yeah, yep.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
But I mean anywhere between that.
You know, the Warriors are twogames behind us in the win
column, three games behind us inthe loss, so you got a little
cushion there.
But I mean the sooner they canget healthier in terms of the
Lakers, the better, because thebetter because they are warriors
have gone from like that 10, 11to succeed.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
So seven game win streak.
It's about to say hey, when Isay do not look now, don't,
don't turn, turn around ifyou're the lakers like do not
look back.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Well, how about minnesota coming along?
I was about to say yeah anotherseven win streak.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, yeah, these teams are starting to.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
It's gonna get interesting in the west, for
sure yeah, I think minnesotapersonally is like a sleeper
team.
They're playing some great ball, great ball.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
But I'm interested to know what is your take on this
Phoenix Sun team, chris, and KDand his.
I don't want to have a legacytalk right now.
I think that's a bit premature.
Yeah, because there is stillsome meat on the bone.
He still has a chance to redeemhimself and prove that he can
be a championship caliber leaderin nba.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
But this season, like to look at him and say that
katie was a bum.
You know what I mean, right,where his conversation and
legacy will get is when it comesto leadership and all those
things.
I think from the sun'sperspective, though, if you look
at what the lakers are dealingwith versus what the Suns, we
are really starting to see, yes,a big three is something we

(23:57):
fell in love with.
It don't always work, and Ithink, like this Lakers team,
for example, is one of the pureteams, because there are guys
who have really specific anddefined roles that they are just
excelling at together.
Right, luka is a scoringmachine.
He is going to be.
He is not going to give youmuch on defense, not for lack of

(24:18):
trying, but he's going to giveyou the best he can, and he's
going to rely on his wings andhis bigs, and that's what it is.
But what he does so well is heforces teams to figure out what
they need to do.
He plays his role personified,and I think that's the biggest
difference between these twoteams.
You look at Devin Booker and KD.

(24:39):
Kd, just long lanky alone isgoing to give you something.
On defense, he's going to be ascorer.
But when you look at the piecesaround them.
And some of that, to me, isn'tso much about the personnel,
it's about the people who putthe personnel together.
And we see this a lot when youget a new owner.
Everybody wants to put theirstamp on something so quickly
that, yes, I'm going to do this,I'm going to throw caution to

(25:04):
the wind, I'm going to go getthis guy and we are going to.
And you just realize that.
One thing about basketballthat's been proven.
Even if you look at when we hada lot of success, we had the
right people in the right places.
You had the Robert Ories, youhad the Rick Foxes, you had the
Derek Fishers.
You had these guys who werejust glue guys in their role,
who understood.
This is the star.
Yes, he's David Ruffin.
We did Temptations but we allgot to hit these same moves and

(25:27):
we're all going on tour and Ithink that's the biggest problem
the Suns have right now.
You're going to get high volumefrom Book.
You're going to get high volumefrom Book.
You're going to get high volumefrom KD Two top-tier athletes.
After that, the fall-off isreal.
I mean, in some cases I feellike you can get us out there,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
It's just like well, what's the difference?
Let me spot up for one, Right.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
It's kind of leftovers after KD and Bookie.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
It just is not enough to compete in a West.
I mean, just listen to what Ijust gave you.
You've got three teams with theexact same record who are
taking up a spot.
It's like, well, you sneezedfirst, so you fell a spot.
You know that's crazy.
So I think that's part of theproblem is just, I think they
have a bigger issue than justthe personnel on the floor.
They need management.

(26:11):
They're going to probably fireBudenhoser at the end of the
year, so it'll be another coach.
So you will have gone throughyou know what three in the last
couple seasons because they'rejust trying to figure themselves
out.
So when I talk about identity,phoenix is an is an example of
what not having an identity willdo to your squad.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
So, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the takeaway on that one
.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, right it Right, it is what it is.
Yeah, yeah, completely, but youtalk about identities.
It's that time of year, fellas,it is March Madness, and some
identities are going to becarved.
Yeah, man, I agree.
Duke is looking good out there,so much so they got a number
one seed with Auburn, houstonand Florida.

(26:54):
My Tar he there.
So much so they got a numberone seed with auburn, houston
and florida.
Um, my tar hills got in andthey, they squeaked in.
Um, to be honest, I didn'texpect them to make it.
I I wouldn't have been mad ifthey didn't make it.
They just haven't been whatthey've been in terms of what
tar hill basketball is.
I think uh, hubie is is gonnabe uh on that hot seat coming up
.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Alumni or not?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
it don't matter.
I think, yeah, to be honest, Igive him another year.
I think I give him next yearbecause him being so close to
Roy Williams and such a part ofthe fabric of the Tar Heels that
I think he may get one year.
But after that, put it to youthis way, I wouldn't be
surprised if they're lining upwhat their next potential
targets will be now.

(27:38):
If he can't get it done nextyear, he's got a top 10 class
coming in.
I think Tar Heels are rankedlike eight, but especially the
rivalry game.
I thought they gave Duke a runfor their money this last game
that they played.
Oh, definitely.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
They had to get up for the tournament.
I was expecting that.
That wasn't much of a surpriseto me.
They had to make a good showingin the tournament.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
The flag out didn't hurt.
But for them to go down about20, 21 points and come back and
poor decisions at the end therestepping in the lane on a free
throw that could have tied thegame, you don't feel those
decisions.
Fortunately for that young man,I will say I was happy that he
will get another chance to playanother game to walk off and
that'd be the last thing youremember against Duke, that's a

(28:21):
lifetime of torture.
But I know, ree, your BlueDevils are number one seed.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
You already know, man , we continue domination of UNC
this year, which is already, ifwe don't do nothing else.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I had my year and my year was Coach K's last year
where we absolutely mopped themevery chance we could man, I
tell you.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
that was the coup de grace.
Yeah, you hate it to see ithappen like that, but this has
been our year.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I'm sure he still has nightmares about that one.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, I'm loving it, though.
I mean we've been smacking onUNC.
I mean that last game was tough.
And UNC did prove it that theyhad.
I mean, yeah, for real, theygot a lot of chutzpah, but to
win that tournament with CooperFlag out, you know what I mean,
like that was.
I mean we got a team we dothere's Con Knipple, you know

(29:14):
what I mean.
We still have some guys on thatteam, but we proved our
toughness winning, outrightwinning the tournament, totally
agree.
I mean I think we look good.
But again, you know me as muchas I love my Duke Blue Devils,
I'm never confident in us whenwe have a very
underclassmen-heavy team.
If our best players areunderclassmen, freshmen, it's

(29:35):
hard for me that to be thatconfident.
Because, yeah, even in collegebasketball you're more veteran
savvy teams are going to havesuccess.
That's just the way it works.
There have been a fewexceptions.
Maybe the last team we saw thatwas led by a freshman phenom
which that won it all was whatsyracuse with mellow, I want to
say Melo might have been thelast one in recent history, I

(29:56):
think so To be led by a freshmanto win it all.
So you don't see that too often.
You're right, yeah, and I don't.
I mean we've had Zion, we'vehad some guys.
We've had the Kyries of theworld, who you know he didn't
have a very long Duke career.
Yeah, he played about as manygames for Duke as I did, you
know what I'm saying.
But we've had some PauloBanqueiro, but we haven't.

(30:22):
Yeah, I just don't.
I love us, I want us to do well.
Fingers crossed, we need it.
We've had a nice drought, or atleast for Duke Blue Devil fans.
It's like the Lakers More thana few years is a drought.
You know what I mean what arewe doing?
yeah, what are we doing?
It's damn near unbearable.
But um, you want to seesomebody's hitting a chopping
block after that point.

(30:42):
But I'm sure john shire hasmore belief than maybe hubert
david davis does because of thesuccess he's had this year um,
but uh, yeah, man, andeverything he.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
He is beating him, without a doubt, and he was the
heir apparent selected, and it'sone thing that Duke did.
They didn't go outside and look.
Coach K was like this is whowas taking over my program and
that's what it's going to be.
So, yeah, he has no problem interms of job security right now.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, when you're handpicked by Coach K, yeah, you
k.
Yeah, you got again.
You're gonna have a longerleash than most will.
But I mean, you got some teamsthat scared me.
The auburns, houston, uh,florida is a nice well-rounded
team.
You got some teams that thatthat definitely strikes some
fear in my heart.
Um, and we know how thetournament is, man, it's
anybody's to win, because if youget hot at the right time, you

(31:34):
can find yourself in the finalfour championship game.
But it ain't that hard.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I still look at it.
I still think that michiganstate gets a strong candidacy to
win.
I think michigan state movieand houston, because we're
talking about defensive teams mepersonally, and I think those
two, when it comes down to it, Iit wouldn't shock me, you know,
if michigan state, but I thinkthat the hard out is going to be
.
I think you know what I'm goingto say, coming from the other

(32:00):
side of the bracket, I think youknow, like Alabama, I think
they could.
You know, I think there'scertain teams that can really
this could be a great year.
But for Duke, you know, I mean,obviously, you know I'm not I
don't have a certain team, Ithink, depending on if we're
going to flag his healthsituation, that ankle Right Now.

(32:22):
I think if he's 78% and I thinkthat he's going to still make
him.
He's going to be a major impacton the team, but that is the
key and they know it.
And I think that, duke, youknow, we know how ankle injuries
could be.
I mean you can re-aggravatethat thing.
I mean first play of the gameit doesn't take much, I think,
if he's 8%.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
they're willing him out because it's the tournament.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, you ain't got no choice.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, I need you to get a power.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, and that's where it gets tricky because you
don't want to risk anythinglong term.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
You're talking about a lottery pick, easily, if not
the number one overall pick, butyou want him back healthy.
I mean sometimes ankle injurieswe saw what another Duke Blue
Devil, what ankle injuries didto Grant Hill.
Oh yeah, you know he wanted towheel his team into playoff
position, or you know at leastbe or even further than that.
But I mean it cost him dearly.
It cost him his career.
For the most part it don't takemuch Like if you again.

(33:23):
It's one of those deals wheresometimes with players much like
boxing you got to be in theircorner throwing a white towel
because they won't defendthemselves.
They'll go out on legacy,they'll go out on bravado and
everything else, and it's likeyou know we need you here long
term, whether you plan on comingback next year or going to the
league.
Whatever decision you make, youwant to make it in the best

(33:44):
health you can be in.
And this may not but you know,hopefully it's minor and he
knows his body better thananybody else.
Hopefully the training staff is.
You know, hopefully we got toget enough training staff that
knows and it's going to break itto him if he can't and it's not
a good idea.
But you know, fingers crossed.
But right now I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
You want to see them compete at the highest level
Definitely.
When you have a year that goesthis well, where you've earned a
number one seed, you want toreally see that play out.
You know my Tar Heels arefighting for 11th on Tuesday
against San Diego State and eventhat's not going to be an easy
out, because San Diego State isa good team, like they've always

(34:26):
been pretty balanced.
And the one thing I love aboutthe tournament and it's arguably
, to me, the best sporting eventout there in terms of sheer
excitement, because if you lookat anything else, and it's
arguably, to me, the bestsporting event out there in
terms of sheer excitement,because if you look at anything
else, it's so true, all you haveto do is get hot.
If you, if you are in right now, you just have to go on a five,
six game win streak, you knowwhat I mean and you will

(34:47):
literally beat everyone andthere's nothing you can do about
it.
How many teams came true, truthbe told, look, I can't remember
the last time.
You know it was like a team whowas just completely out of the
far right, where it's likenobody had any clue that they
could win, because even in thisformat most of the time, you
know guys will get weeded out,but to watch that process is

(35:10):
always somebody who goes downway too early, it's all all,
always the Cinderella team, oralways somebody who goes down
way too early, it's all, alwaysthe cinderella team, or always
somebody that you know pulls onthe heartstrings of it.
So, from your perspective, isthis one of the best sporting
events of the year.
What do you guys?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
think most definitely because you're talking about
you know one, you know one gamewhen to go home that that you
know just that setup alone isgoing to bring the intensity.
You said it all right there.
Yeah, that's why right, andthat's why you know for college
basketball, even for the regularseason, every game matters.
There isn't like, okay, westill got.

(35:45):
You know every game matters, sothey're already.
If you think about it, whenyou're in college basketball
you're already playing at acertain level and especially
towards the end of season, youknow you're playing your
tournament championships nowthat you're in.
You know the big dance, the typeof energy that is necessary, as
even from a coaching standpoint, you're gonna have to do some
of your best coaching.

(36:06):
You know every round, as longas you make it, and you know all
that takes is a great outingfor you to knock someone off,
whether you win by 20 points orone point, as long as you can
win and keep going to the nextone.
I just think the excitement ofseeing some of the big names
tumble and fall first two rounds.
They go down to what you thinkis a lesser team.

(36:26):
But, like I said, all you haveto do is kind of especially this
is we understand that it's notprofessional NBA basketball, but
to get those kids to really buyin and give it their all on the
court.
I mean, you know what there is,you think about it NBA.
We know that some of these guyswhen they play, it's kind of

(36:49):
like they kind of throw in thetowel when they know we're not
having a great night.
There's still another gametomorrow.
It's the first game.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
We'll sit, our guys None of that?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
None of that.
Listen, I need you to tape thisup because this may be and for
some of these guys, this may betheir last collegiate game or
their last game period.
Because everyone's not.
You know what I mean.
Because everybody's not goingto the league.
Everybody's not going to theleague.
Because everyone's not.
You know what I mean.
Because everybody's not goingto the league.
Everybody's not going to theleague.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Everybody.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
So I need to leave it all on the floor.
There's so much at stake, notjust for the championship, but
their career in sports periods.
For some of them, like this isthe last of all.
There is nothing after this.
So I need to go ahead and atleast try to win this chip.
You know what I mean, and Ijust you know.
To see not only the energy, butto see the emotions that they

(37:36):
go through, you know what I mean, like the state the other night
was heartbreaking to me.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I mean, I saw that he , he, I mean he couldn't get
past some tears, he apologizedfor crying, but that that was
such a pure moment, and it wasone of those things.
Being in locker rooms andcoaching for a number of years,
you feel, feel for those kids,because they, they truly don't
know.
They've loved this thing thisentire time.
They don't know what's next forthem, and part of that is some

(38:01):
of that is the disappointment ofthe loss.
The other part of that, though,is I don't know if I'll ever
get to do this again at thislevel.
Yeah, and you feel that I meanthat boy cried, he and, and he
talked about you know, but hetransferred to, he left his old
team, transferred over, and itwas like was the grass eating
greener and I owe money.

(38:22):
But, man, that, that rawemotion.
I felt so bad for him in thatmoment, because it was, it was
pure, and he was genuinelyremorseful about not being able
to do more, which something youdon't really see at the
professional level, not likethat at least.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, yeah, for me it's.
The answer is pretty easy it is.
It has to be the penultimate,and I said it only to the super
bowl.
Not that I think that's abetter product.
Um, it's just what we'reaccustomed to, right?
It's the biggest sporting eventin america, no doubt.
Now this obviously is second toit.
Maybe I'm not sure if that'strue, for all I know, it could
be the college, uh, footballnational championship.

(39:04):
But, um, yeah, but thetournament is probably the best,
one of the most fair systemsthere is is no fairest there is
no.
This is the best that we haveright now in terms of its
fairness.
I mean, you can argue that liketeams.
Once you get past the selectionbecause again it will not come
without controversy that teamslike North Carolina made it, and

(39:27):
that's not to pick on them, I'mjust saying like no, no, no,
you're absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Because when they lost that game, that was my
first thought is like, yeah,this year's over, we'll see what
happens next year.
And for them to get in and Imean even being in a play-in
situation, they're going upagainst a good San Diego State
team and then, if they win, theystill got to go against Ole
Miss.
But the funny thing is, againyou get on a run.

(39:52):
That's a veteran coach, youknow, know, he's been to the top
of that mountain a couple times.
Yeah, you still got rj davis yougot la you got jackson, so you
still got some guys who canactually, if they can just put
it together quiet, escape you,mess around and be in a final
against auburn in the sectionand be like hey, look, yeah,

(40:13):
look at what we're doing yeah,so it's possible, it could
definitely happen, and that'sone of the things about it.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Like college basketball has found a way, this
is where the NCAA gets somecredit, whoever's in charge or
at the administrative level.
I got to give it to them andtheir foresight, and even the
naming of the different rounds,the Elite Eight, final Four yeah
, those, those titles, they allbuild right and we know.
We know what that means.
Like the final four isexclusive to college basketball.

(40:41):
Yeah, now, technically,whenever you have a semi-finals,
there is a final four, of sorts, but they've coined a phrase
that is transcendent even if youdon't understand basketball,
you know the final four.
We're talking collegebasketball, especially in this
country.
You certainly know what time itis.
So if you asking me like, yeah,to me it's, and as a basketball

(41:01):
fan, again, super bowl is greator it can be as a potential
would be great, but more oftenthan not, the tournament is
probably going to shake out andbe entertaining regardless.
Like you're guaranteed someentertainment, you're guaranteed
some level regardless.
Like you guaranteed someentertainment, you guaranteed
some level of drama.
You're guaranteed some greatstorylines.
It's just it's.
It's a great time of year forbasketball.

(41:21):
We, we got NBA kind of windingdown and it it.
You know you're getting intothe probably the most
competitive part of the season,especially in close races like
the Western Conference.
But in college basketball thisis like you said, this is it for
some of these guys?
They're not going pro, at leastnot in basketball.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Fellas, you know, we got to bring the other gender in
the women's side, andespecially over the last-.
Oh man, they've been shining.
Yeah, I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
You got to give it up for the ladies man.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Everybody wants right .
So you from from from.
Just, I didn't know that I'mgonna go out on the limb and say
this as much as I love the nfl,I think collegiate sports on
the whole, when it comes tofootball and basketball, there
is no better product.
And the reason why I say that?
Because the energy that comeswith both now I will say that
you think about sad.
You think about saturday justcalled collegiate football.
I heard someone speaking youknow one of the NFL guys, and

(42:14):
he's, you know, played for onechampionships with the Patriots
and he was, you know, speakingto the fact that there's nothing
more crazier than a college fan.
And even the people that youknow, the fans that show up
we're talking about Tuesday thegame is Saturday Show up with
their, you know, and starteverything Tuesday, waiting in

(42:36):
line or waiting in tents or intheir you know their RVs pulling
up in body-pillow drones Right.
And think about it.
I mean, listen, I know theydon't like it, but just even to
see when, like, there's a biggame and an upset happens and
they, you know, storm the field.
That type of energy is soattractive as just a fan to
watch yeah yeah, I mean even thepersonalities.

(42:57):
when you see some of thepersonalities in collegiate
sports that have been kind oflike you know they've been there
, I mean since forever and justto see them, you know, to come
out the sportscasters forcollege, you know that is.
You know, I mean arguably, likeI said, dick Vitale just at the
time, to hear that yeah babycome on man, come on now.

(43:22):
I mean you think about it.
Some of the best moments insports are from collegiate
sports.
You know the best moments.
I mean your Duke, the ChristianLeitner shot.
I mean come on moments.
I mean you're Duke, I mean theChristian Leitner shot.
I mean, come on now.
I mean some of these things wereally got to.
Like I said, don't get me wrong, there's.
I think if you're going tocompare it to something you have
to compare it to, it would haveto be only the finals.

(43:44):
The finals in NBA, yeah, that'sa whole, nother level.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah, but the finals can be kind of a 50-50
proposition in terms ofentertainment value.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
You never know what you might get.
The ones and dones.
You know what I mean, but theone and dones, that aspect of it
is what makes it.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Just that.
In and of itself, it addssomething to the atmosphere that
you can't get in professionalsports Win or go home.
It truly is win or go home.
There ain't no second chances.
This is not a best of three,five, seven.
You know what I mean.
This is not a doubleelimination.
It is you have one time to havea bad night and you're going
home, and that's that.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
And you can regroup for next year.
Hopefully you know what I mean.
A collegiate rivalry isunmatched.
It is On top of that.
Remember we all went to go.
You saw the Duke North Carolinagame Went and we had people up
in there.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, I swear.
If there's one thing I wouldwant for us in this life is to
be in attendance at one of themgames whatever site Like yeah,
you talk about a dream.
Oh man, just us sitting there atthe bar restaurant.
I remember I had a couple ofbeers and you could cut that
tension with a knife becausethat was a close game.
It was hard fought, you knew.

(44:54):
If this was it, you know likethis would be coach k going out
losing to carolina after justlosing to them on you know, his
last game coaching as the headcoach at duke.
So it was just like there's noway lightning strikes twice.
But man, I was.
Yeah, you're right, there's nofeeling like that.
So I totally agree with that.

(45:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
The college sports atmosphere.
It's unmatched because you havethe passion of the student body
.
You just got a lot more goingfor it.
It's a lot more passion-packedbecause people care more.
These aren't paid professionals.
I mean you could argue thatthey are kind of
semi-professional now with themoney they're getting, the NIL,
money transfer portals and theseguys are making decisions like

(45:37):
pros.
But for some, like you said,this is going to be the closest
they'll get to that the abilityto transfer, make money.
This is their professionalcareer.
And again, like you said, brad,you got the women's game now,
which has really been quiet askept.
I mean it's been still in thespotlight from the men's game.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I I haven't mentioned it because I think it's an
episode in and of itself,because we we have to talk about
has the women's game in itstotality.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I've touched onthat pendulum, yeah, and and
taken over.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yes, that's, and it's a conversation to be had.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
It's getting there for sure, but in terms of the
college environment, theycertainly have earned their keep
.
Oh yeah, absolutely yeah, andyou might, you might argue they
deserve a lion's share of it.
But this year, you know again,you got to.
Really, I think this electioncommittee did a great job this
year.
Know again, you gotta.
Really I think this election uhcommittee did a great job this
year.
You're always gonna have somecontroversy.
Yeah, that's built into it.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
It's gonna happen so large.
Yeah, somebody's gonna be upsetright, it's no matter.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
If it were 128, somebody would feel left out.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah the 129th team is right, yeah how hot.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
How did we not make?

Speaker 1 (46:51):
it and when you look at just the size of the field.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Like what field starts out now it's 68, right,
but it's a 64-team tournamentthat whittles down to one last
man standing.
When you hear that LutherVandross being queued up, that
one final moment man, you hearClark Kell clark kellogg's in
the it's it is nostalgia, yeahyeah, there's so much around

(47:18):
that man and, and that's thegreatest, it can't be overstated
.
this is the, the best time, oneof the best times a year for
basketball the tournament, andby that time we're done with
that, we're looking at the nbaplayoffs.
We'll have a better, we, we'llhave a clearer picture, but,
yeah, but I'm certainly lookingforward to this tournament.
And again, hey, we'd be remissif we didn't mention the bracket

(47:40):
.
That's the most exciting andfun part, even for the casuals,
those who don't follow collegebasketball or sports in general.
Just filling out a bracket atyour office party or whatever,
you know what I mean, to havebracket parties, that's a fun
that we, nationally, we get toindulge in every year.
I don't give a damn where youare, whether you work in

(48:00):
sanitation or you work incorporate America your office is
taking up some pools.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
The philosophy behind it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Some people are like, oh, I'm going with this color.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, if the team has this color.
I'm going with it.
I like their mascot better.
Just the rationale and the onething do you ever think we'll
get somebody who fills out aperfect bracket?

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Because there's been a billion dollars on the line
for a million dollars, who knowshow long, and there's a reason
nobody's wanted because there'salways an upset just the thought
that you have a better chanceof picking six or seven numbers
to win close to a billiondollars or to win a jackpot than
you do at filling out acompletely 100% accurate bracket

(48:50):
.
That's crazy in and of itself.
Like there is no, like there'sno rhyme or reason, and you can
get down to all analytics andevery year they'll do a show
dedicated to these guys who comeon who this team?

Speaker 2 (49:01):
has a better chance.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Bracketology and the whole nonsense all it is, and
you know what it's equivalent to.
Bracketology is damn nearequivalent to astrology and that
it means absolutely nothing.
You know what I mean?
It's a bunch of hogwash.
At the end of the day it's allfun and games, but it means
nothing.
It has no significance.
But I mean, I'm looking, I gota bunch of them.

(49:23):
I'll probably print out about20 and fill out 20 different
brackets.
Just you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
I think I'll do the same this year.
Yeah, Normally stick to one ortwo.
No, I do a ton of them.
This is one with my heart andthis is one just.
But yeah, I think this yearI'll probably get a few more in,
just to see what that's like.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah, but listen to what you guys are saying.
We're talking about just theexcitement of, you know,
choosing the brackets.
Just think about that, Evenlike when they have the Think
about it in college, when theyhave like the early at four
o'clock, they have the bracketspecial.
The special for who's going toget the reveal Just in that
alone, like I said, from that,from revealing who makes the

(50:02):
tournament moving forward.
And I dare say this I thinkthat the championship game is
probably like the greatestMonday of sports, of any sport,
that Monday, and that's thething.
There's no way, you know, Iunderstand the NFL, you got to
build it up but hey, thatSaturday, that Friday, saturday,
you know who won that.

(50:23):
Following Monday, like, yeah,let's rock, let's go ahead and
get it out the way, and I and Ilike that because you don't want
a team to cool off, like I wantto see both you guys at your
best towards the end.
And we know that it's going tobe ups and downs in the game,
but yeah, very, you're going toalways get, like I said, I think
the consistency of it too, andyou know, because nba, it can be

(50:44):
inconsistent, like you say, youget to the finals, it's like,
yeah, you saw the, you know inrecent years.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
It's you get to the playoffs, it's like all the top
stars are injured somehow.
Some way he depleted of a wholebunch of star quality and it's
just like whatever, I don't evencare who wins now, it's just
like whoever's the healthiest atthis point is gonna get it done
, and we'll be certain to put anasterisk near it too guys are
permanente MVP's but yeah, justin terms of like, just the, the

(51:12):
raw emotion and the passion.
It is just fun and, you know,can't be overstated yeah, you
gotta love it.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
So we'll have to trust and believe we'll have
some more coverage of that.
Well, there fellas we coming tothe end.
This, uh, freestyle what's onyour mind, a couple minutes and
just let us know what's on yourmind yeah, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (51:32):
what was everybody up to?
Are you watching anythinginteresting?
Anybody?
Uh, stumble on anything that'sthat you want to share with the
congregation, that you want tolet the people know about.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I just started daredevil, the reboot of
daredevil.
I enjoyed that.
When it got darker, when disneystarted to get into a little
bit of blood, a little bit ofviolence, I was like okay oh, we
got blood in in this up in thisseries really oh yeah, they
kept up with it from netflix.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
They didn't, they didn't depart from it.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
They, they, and first episode they come with it like
yeah really some familiar facesthat are that are brought right
back into the fold.
So yeah, I would.
I would definitely reckon ifyou followed it on netflix it's
a good jump in.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
I might have to check it out.
I was just.
I was concerned that they wouldtake all the blood out and
remove all of the uh, uh, yeah,what I've heard about okay, they
from pause to play, they, theyjust hit continue.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
So, yeah you, you need not worry about that for
sure all right, that's cool Imean because listen those series
.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
You know the Daredevil, the Iron Fist and you
know Jessica.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Jones and all them, luke Cage and all them yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
They put Netflix on the map.
For me, like, a lot of peopledidn't really know that Netflix
had these things.
And then you know next thing,you know, man, it blew up.
So you know, I'm happy that theshow was back.
I love that show.
I was, you know, those marvelones.
I mean, if you people that'slistening, if you haven't
checked them out, you guys needto check them out.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Yeah, please do y'all slip it only other one I'm
waiting to come back is yourhonor that that was a good
you're gonna be heartbroken.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
I enjoyed.
I hope I'm wrong, but last Iheard that was my show.
Uh, it's a wrap.
They're not coming back.
I don't know why.
Unless somebody, unless anothernetwork picks that up, that
show's not coming back.
That, oh man, that pissed meoff.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
So you're telling me they left us with a cliffhanger
yes, yes, yes oh my yeah, trustme, that broke my heart.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
That was the show I was most looking forward to, oh
I've been waiting and I told mywife earlier like hey, where is
that chris?

Speaker 3 (53:42):
it's two shows that are similar yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Mayor of east town you've been talking about that
for a while.
We're watching it.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Yeah, we're on that too bear oh okay, pay attention,
pay attention to that show.
That's gonna throw you for aloop.
Yeah, yeah, I gotta check itout now you're talking about it
like that wait a minute, youhaven't seen it?

Speaker 3 (54:00):
no, I've heard robert talk about it for a minute for
some years, a couple years now.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
I want to say I'm waiting and hoping I don't you
know.
I don't know if they're gonnacome, but yeah, I don't know if
they're gonna come back with it.
So, but yeah, those are theshows you know, the same similar
shows we're on.
Only thing I'm doing now is,man, I went and got my uh, we
wouldn't got some bikes fixed inthe house that need to be fixed
.
But to my surprise, no, bro,but to my surprise, see, this is
me being lazy, being being amechanic myself, knowing how, to

(54:26):
you know, work on differentthings and the bikes I didn't
feel like doing them, so Iwouldn't get it.
You know, since, uh, I don'thave a truck, I've issued, even
had a truck and yeah, theywouldn't fit.
When got a van from u-haul,took it up there and by the time
they did the assessment, oh,you need this, that and the
third, and I knew it, theyweren't cheating, because I
could clearly see, yeah, and Igot that, bill bruh it was like

(54:48):
are they fixing bikes ormotorcycles?

Speaker 3 (54:50):
like, oh yeah, what's going on, what's a harley up in
this joint right.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
I was like man, I'm thinking like how much does that
bike cost?
That's brand new, you 434, thatwas a ticket.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
I was like, yeah and we're talking bicycles, right,
not motorbike.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
It's crazy no, yeah, pedal power, buddy.
Yeah, that's crazy.
434, bruh.
We'll see how if any more rainscome, I'm about ready to get on
out there.
Put this bike out there, use,you know, another form of cardio
, because I can't do no track orno treadmill you gotta enjoy it

(55:27):
.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
It'll keep you on.
Ain't nothing new over here,man?
I ain't been up to nothing muchain't haven't stumbled into
nothing great worth mentioning,just been the same old, same old
man Trying to live through theoff-war moment, trying to see
what's going on in the world.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Well, check out that.
Mayor of Easttown.
Yeah, I guess it'll give mesomething to do in the interim?

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Yeah, I can check that out.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
We've been talking about it for a while.
How?

Speaker 1 (55:53):
many episodes of Daredevil is available?
Two, I think three right now.
Oh yeah, it's going down.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yeah, yeah it's going down, yes, so you might want to
check that out.
Last thing I want to leavey'all with and we kind of talked
about it so we've known eachother, the majority I mean.
I met these guys in third,fourth grade and we're all in a
similar age bracket mid-40s, andyou know we've had our
conversations and we've we'vekept up with each other.

(56:16):
But one of the things that, uh,we kind of touched on today was
just being good to each other,making sure that you were
watching out for your brother.
It immediately made me think ofthe uh lyrics from the best man
I can be from the best mansoundtrack, and just a couple of
lines what can a brother do forme?
He can pick me up when he canpick you up when you were down.
What can a brother do for me?
He can be your eyes when youcan't see.
What can a brother do for me?

(56:37):
He can help me be the best manI can be.
So watch out for your brothers.
Sometimes we get so caught upin life that applies to sisters
too.
But that that was on my head andon my heart after we had a
conversation.
So just make sure we're lookingout and doing, doing what we
can to be the best for eachother, cause we need each other.
I know we are men, I know weare prideful, I know we are

(56:58):
strong, I know we are providers,but we are human.
So, uh, you know that'ssomething that this brotherhood
talked about.
So make sure that you arewatching out for your brothers,
being there for him, being hiseyes when he can't see, picking
him up when he's down, and justmaking sure that we're taking
care and making sure each of usis the best we can be for one
another and the people we love.

(57:18):
So with that I'll leave you.
Rekha, can you tell the peoplewhere they can find and support
the pod?

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Well, you can start at our website.
Well, not ours, but you knowwe'll call it our website.
Thesupremecourt words, but youknow we'll call it our website.
Uh, the supreme court basketballdot buzzsproutcom that's one
way you can go check us out.
Listen to our podcast there ifyou don't want to be bothered
with the youtubes and uh,whatever else, though, we are
available there too, at supremecourt basketball again, at
supreme court basketball.

(57:45):
On youtube, please include theat symbol, otherwise you'll get
the us Supreme Court orsomething that's got nothing to
do with basketball or us at all.
Yeah, so we're available there.
Wherever you get your podcast,just type in the Supreme Court
Basketball Podcast.
You should be able to find us.
If not, you might be capping.
You ain't looking hard enough.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Hey, you definitely wasn't.
And one more thing we want youto not only follow, like,
subscribe, share, drop a coin.
Help us keep this thing going,help us bring you more content,
help us do what we are loving todo.
We are finding this to be a joyand we want to keep that going.

(58:26):
Yeah, we'd appreciate that.
Drop that quiet money, amen,because we want to keep going.
We appreciate your loveofferings.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
Absolutely.
I come to you with cup hands,even if it's just change.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Man cannot live on bread and water alone.
Bless us, please Keep it going,and I ask that you would just
open up that billfold.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
A word for the day, another good episode, fellas, we
appreciate you rocking with us.
We will see you next week andwe are out, we, out, we out hey,
hey.