EP 47 Amber Turner

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Intro/Outro (00:02):
Let's drop the green flag on this episode of
the talent tank podcast withyour host Wyatt Pemberton
bringing you the best, fastest,most knowledgeable personalities
and Ultra4 and off road racing.

Wyatt Pemberton (00:21):
Alright, alright. Alright. Welcome back
everybody the talent tank backin session. Oh my gosh, you guys
are informed today. This is athis is our she's our it's amber
Turner. She's ashe is by far the funniest, most
bubbly person I've everinteracted with on the show
right off the bat. Just superexcited about this. This is

(00:42):
Amber, how many times have wetalked?

Unknown (00:46):
Twice? This is the second phone call that I've ever
had with you. And we've nevermet in person.

That's right.
That's right. So you guys herefirst amber Turner. She drives
the number 468. So 4600 samurai,she drives the samurai. She's
been racing with us for a while.
Amber, welcome to the party.

Unknown (01:06):
At why I'm excited to be here.

You're an exciting individual. I'm
cautiously nervous, you know,like and I'm optimistic about
being nervous. Like I'm, I lovemeeting new people and getting
new people on here. And hearingstories about racers I don't
know anything about our peopleare involved in the motor sport
that I know a little bit alittle inkling of. And so many
people have said so many greatthings about you. And I've seen

(01:29):
good coverage from you. And I'veseen your magazine covers with
you. You are your hot commodity.
Ah, okay. That's it. That's thehumble reaction,

Unknown (01:42):
I just drive a sigh, right.

But you drive a samurai and you're competitive
in it, and you're having fun init. And it's, you've got your
whole family involved and allyour friends involved. And
you've even gotten some of myfriends involved. And in your
just from what I see just just,you know, right up front,
bubbly, nice person, it is no,no shock, no surprise why people

(02:07):
are willing to help you becauseyou look like a person that is
gladly and genuinely happy to bedoing what you're doing and in
affecting everyone around youwith your personality.

Amber Turner (02:19):
Well, gee, if that's all it takes,

Unknown (02:21):
I hope that I can give back to the people that want to
help me in the same way. So ifthat makes any sense. We got
lots

of stories about that. Lots of stories
about about those folks. Soright off the bat, some really
interesting stuff happened toyou in the past week. Right?
What is this big news thathappened in last week with you?

Unknown (02:41):
So I started working at bomber fab on Tuesday was
officially my first day. But soI came by to drop off my toolbox
on Monday and I wasn't evensupposed to be working. And then
that's when you know, I show upat the shop and I'm going to
drop off my toolbox and justlike, drop it and leave and
Randy's like, No, we need tohave this car ready. By the end
of the week. We're gonna goRedfin really bad. I'm like, all

(03:04):
right, what do you need me todo? I just needed help.

Trial by Fire right in the mix. So you you've
closed out your first weekworking mama fab for Randy
slawson. What's that like youoff the cuff? This is your first
time Don't say anything, they'llget you fired.

Unknown (03:20):
I mean, it's a lot different from coming from what
I call an adult job in airquotes. It's really different
because Randy has this wholelike good old boy attitude and
like way of doing things. Andit's kind of refreshing to see
that he can still maintain that.
And he also had an and like,part of the reason why I was

(03:40):
really excited to go to work forRandy in the first place was
because I knew that he had abackground in teaching welding.
So I knew that I could learnfrom him because he knew how to
teach literally, like there wasone point where I was sitting at
my bench doing a couple well,but he can't comes by and like,
takes a sharpie out and draws acouple things on my desk. And

(04:01):
he's like, do it this way. And Iwas like flashing back to when I
was in community college, likelearning how to weld and I was
like, this is gonna work. I'mgonna learn so much here. So
there's that and yeah, and like,I know, he's, he's the master
and that's what I want to learnfrom.

So I think you're spot on. Yeah, Randy
taught at the fab school forquite a while before. Then he
went skiing the hammers that hisfirst time and then he finally
is able to punch out ofCalifornia. He gets out of there
moves over the Reno area, andthen he wins cailleach again,
and then he's just one of theguineas the current, you know,
reigning king.

Unknown (04:37):
Yeah, working for three times King is pretty cool. Like
literally every day I think I'min the shop and I have like an
epiphany at some point oranother in the day and I'm like,
I really get to do this for ajob now. This is my nine to
five.

Well, the one thing that I think's fun about
Randy and Randy, Randy and Ithis is the easter egg for the
future everybody Randy will beon the season. This is a this is
a given. We've had theconversation. It just and we
have it scheduled. Let's just go

in the shop. I've seen it.

That is and then we were supposed to use it
and then it didn't. We didn'tget the handoff because, Randy,
are you headed to San fleabay?
Yeah, well, we'll get there.
We'll figure it out. What I wantto see I'm excited about for
you, is the insight into Randy'sway of fabrication and design,
mostly the design. Randy likesto take things and simplify them

(05:28):
down. When you look at a bombercar. They are bare bones,
minimum racecars?

Unknown (05:34):
I think that's where I think I'd really identify with
his way of doing things is justthe simplification. And just
like going with things that youknow, it's like, the way I like
to put it is like I'm still onSamara axles, because I know
Samurai axles, you know, I knowhow they work. I know how they
break and all that crap. But Ithink Randy is the same kind of
way, obviously, our larger, moredurable scale, but, but learning

(05:57):
from that design standpoint, andjust learning how to use the
parts that you have. And thatyou know, is kind of a lost art
almost, because everyone's allgung ho about you know, I need
this bigger upgrade or thatbigger upgrade to do this and
that it's like that you don'tyou just just wheel it. You

(06:18):
know,

I found it interesting. A few weeks ago,
Josh was telling me that Randyactually detuned he actually
dropped down horsepower for Kwage so that you'd make things
live, live a lot longer, lasts alittle longer. And we'll
obviously it was a good itworked out well for him.

Unknown (06:35):
I don't want to give too much away because I know
Randy's gonna probably go overwhat happened this year in his
episode, but just the dumbingdown of things is is basically
how he assumes that he was ableto win, because I guess he likes
to push his car so hard the bigbreak. So having a car that
doesn't go as hard as it can.
kept him back and he was able topreserve the car. But yeah, no,

(06:59):
no spoiler alerts here.

Yeah, no, but that's a good that's a good lead
in I mean, so congratulations onmaking the move to to work for
Randy at our fab. We're gonnahave to touch base in a year and
see what you think if, if it'sall what it's cracked up to be?
Or you're like, Oh my God, Ihate Randy now, or Yep. Oh my
god, I absolutely love Randy hasbeen the best boss I've ever
had. I've grown so much. I'mhoping for the latter not the

(07:27):
former for you, obviously, forobvious reasons. But this is
exciting. So you're there for aweek so far in cash. We have a
lot of distance covering somefun stories. But so you've been
there week so far. You worked onthe 4800 car. That's going to
Sam fleabay it's already it'salready left, right.

Unknown (07:45):
Yeah, literally we put it in the trailer last night. I
think he got a CD ofMotorsports. It's like 11
o'clock this morning.

again to see Josh West, we just say he's
getting dropped twice already.
There you go. And then you leavefor sampling in the morning.
you're headed down that way tocorrect. Now who's who's this
car for?

4800.

Yeah, Randy's driving it. Oh, Randy is
driving. Okay. I didn't Yeah. Sofrom my side, my purse I Randy
doesn't ever race series races.
Yeah, he's like a cailleach.
Only guy. So I just assumed hewas going to support a new
build.

Unknown (08:20):
Yeah. So this is all speculation. But I think he was
meaning to build the 48 cardjust to race EMC next year, you
know, to get that little edge onthe actual 4400 raise. But I
guess you had the opportunity togo down to Mexico, and he took
it. And so the Friday, like twoFridays ago, him and the other

(08:41):
guy that works there, Allen,we're sitting down at lunch and
they were like, you want to goto Mexico? Oh, why not? Let's go
to Mexico. So yeah, now there'sa car and a trailer if it should
be tuned by now. And they'reprobably in Mexico by now too.
So

this is exciting to hear Rainey is going
to raise a series right? So aseveryone listens to this, you're
going back? Well, Wyatt, thatwas over the weekend that that
tells you if that dates theepisode, we are recording this
right in front of St. fleabay.
And simply they will happen wheneveryone hears this. So Randy,
congratulations on your win.

Good call.

Right. There we go. Well, you know, let you know
the story isn't about Randy.
It's not about Bob Murphy. Thisis about amber Turner and who
she is and how she came to beand what she's up to. So I
mentioned you know your 4600class racer, you drive the 468
the little gray Samurai k awaitsthis year. You were definitely a
fan favorite. And we've had fanfavorites over the years. Like

(09:37):
the little Toyota that could andyou know there's various like
Cody Addington before he and RedDragon. Everyone pulling for
Cody like oh my gosh, this guythis stalker. There's just been
so gathered. I mean, there'sjust like Boston Kyle, this year
in the AV. The whole world iscalling for Boston Kyle because
one is the first Evie It wasawesome. And then we saw Boston

(10:00):
Kyle what he did Sam fleabaywith his 30,000 or $35,000. car
and he goes out and he I mean,he went

Lordstown.

Yeah. Look, the town crew with their million
dollar budget to prove outthere.

Unknown (10:16):
Man. That was such a fun one to follow.

No, gosh, it really was like, and I know
people in the, you know, not inthe racing world, but in my
professional world that wereabsolutely following because
they just wanted to see wherethis Evie world goes. Because it
has a big impact on the energyworld. And oh, no, it was
disappointing. But they werestill following my LinkedIn
stuff. Because I was puttingreally good on Boston, Kyle's

(10:40):
really cool stuff, like how hetransported the batteries from
trailer to doing the swap andsome cool stuff along those
lines. But anyway, I digress onthat. So tell us about your
little samurai, and kfh thisyear, and then we're going to
talk about Moab and then we'regoing to go back and talk about
you as a kid and growing up. Butk which this year in a Sammy.

Unknown (11:01):
So cailleach this year in a samurai was especially
hard, much harder than I wouldsay 2020, which was the first
year I raised, you know, justbecause they had the desert
classes in the first part of theweek, and they just totally ate
up the forest. I'm sureeverybody's heard about that.
But each year, it's been alearning experience. And that's

(11:22):
kind of what I chalk it up tobecause I rock crawling is my
bread and butter. Like I know Ican do the rock trails, no
problem I can get through this.
It's just the desert section.
That beats me up mentally andphysically cuz I'm not super
familiar with it. And it's justsomething that I have to learn
and hump that I have to getover. I'm tuned my car for

(11:43):
though. That terrible, which ofthese are intact?

We'll base on the Sammy 80 inches at Oh man, I
was like 100 almost two feetoff. No, the coolest story I
heard from this year, and itcame out of the tribe. So tribe
four by four tribes, 16 guys outof Dallas Fort Worth, Adam shear
and his whole crew, they pit itfor you for the MC right. And

(12:08):
then the story I heard and I'msure other people heard the
story because I probably eventold it before because I thought
it was the it's really the, forme, it's the epitome of ultra
for it's the epitome of theoffer of genre that we like in
the family. And the stories wetell is that you bent a leaf
spring on the Sami during therace, they put out the call for

(12:31):
who if anyone has a stock leafspring or something to the
effect, and somebody on the lakebed, pulled the leaf spring off
their daily driver, whatever itis, and he delivers it over to
your pit and they swap it. Sotell that story.

Unknown (12:46):
If you want to hear the whole racist or because there's
a little bit more of that,that's one of the stories. So
the night before the race. I'vebeen meaning to get to this
engine tuner all week to try toget my carb tune. And I finally
make it to this guy's campThursday night because we raced
on Friday. And he's like,screwed with my car. But I'm

(13:07):
telling him his problems. Andhe's like, Yeah, we got to pull
this whole thing apart andrebuild it. You know, we don't
have the time or the space forit. And so we're in his pit. And
this other guy that's campedright next to them comes over
and he's like, Hey, I'm gonnaWeber carb on my Samurai
Outback, you can just borrow it.
So we literally pulled the carboff of his Samurai and put it on

(13:29):
mine and I ran that car for thereason that I had to pull it
back off and send it to him whenI got home. So that's the first
thing that happened. Yeah, andthen come race day. And this is
like a stupid dumb mistake. ButI still kick myself for like we
leave start finish it like

8 (13:48):
30am very first started the race come over the first jump.
And I absolutely nosedivebecause I didn't realize how
steep that jump was on the otherside. I've been both front leaf
springs. And so we're cominginto the wash going into the
back door. And I'm likesomething's wrong. You know,
something's off I can feel thisthing. You know, just rubbing it

(14:10):
everywhere. And it felt Okay,like the suspension was still
working kind of how it shouldbut I knew something was off and
we pull into the the first pitand I like yeah, both apparently
springs are bent and I'm justlike, I was so pissed. I was
just going off and I was like,You know what, screw it. I'm
just gonna run them as long as Ican until they break. You know,
we make it back around. And thenwe come into main pit and I'm

(14:31):
literally going to just bypassmain pit hammertone and go
straight to the rock section.
And everybody at tribe isoutside in the front and they're
like motioning me and likeyelling at me, I'm like, okay,
go so good. And I get in andthey swapped my leaf springs out
for there was this dude that wasactually kicked right next to

(14:52):
us. And he had this sweet littleSamurai with a little bit of
lift that I'd been meaning tolike, go up and talk to this guy
all week. You know, that's mything. I'm like, Hey, you had a
nice time, right? You know. Butso this guy comes over and he's
got similarly springs to mindtheir spring under with a three
inch lift. And they had hisSamurai parked in the back, took
the front springs out and throwthem on mine. And like 15

(15:13):
minutes, I was off, and away yougo. Yeah. And so I ran the, you
know, to basically the bottom ofOuter Limits where I timed out
with those leaf springs. But itwas just like the fact that
between the first kit and mainkit, you know, come around the
second or the first lap,somebody found this guy and made

(15:36):
the connection. He was like,Hey, you can borrow my lease?

Yeah, absolutely. Then the story I
heard was when he came to getthem back. He comes over and he
was like, they're like, yo, canwe help you? And he goes, Oh,
yeah, I was just here to get mylease brings me to drive home.

And they're like, basically.

Oh, awesome.
Yeah. Thank you. You're the guy.
Okay. in Sydney, in Sydney,Sydney about is waiting on his
path. But yeah, saved your race.
But you guys timed out.

Unknown (16:07):
Yeah, we printed out at the bottom about our limits, or
is that traffic jam there and Ijust decided to call it but by
going back to the dude that Iprobably springs from like, he
just kind of walked into the pitthat night. It was after the
race we'd pulled in andeverything. It was super late.
All the tribe guys gonna do arecovery. So me and my co driver
swapped the leaf springs rightthere and put him back on his

(16:29):
rig so he could drive home andlike lift my Samurai back to
camp.

You did it though. Right? I mean, on your
terms?

Unknown (16:36):
Yeah. Okay. And it was a great donation, if you will,
you know, they race car parts.
Now.

I know that guys live in high on karma.

For sure.

So okay, so you female racer, guys, you know,
have an advantage here. Theywere, you know, they've got a
catheter situation, you know,it's a roll on deal. From the
female perspective, they exist,do you run a catheter while
racing? Okay,

Unknown (17:05):
this is probably one of the greatest inventions.

Okay, let's hear it. Let's hear it.

Unknown (17:09):
So diving straight into it. This is the first year that
I used a catheter because thinkrugged, seldom are female

founder what's the what are they called? Are
they called like she weaves orsomething, I've seen those.

Unknown (17:22):
I think they're just female catheters, it's basically
like the the little medicalbaggie, and then they put their
own, like, extra long hose inthere. And that's their female
catheter, you know, sales thing,you know, just extra stuff added
to the bag. But you can buy themif they're, you know, the
trailer that they have that theybring your racing stuff. Solo

(17:43):
picked one up during kale ageand kind of nervous about it.
But it worked. And it wasactually really funny, because I
don't know, there's probablyother racers out there that have
this turned into like, Yeah, Iheard like, you're not a real
racer racer until you have acatheter story. Well, here's
mine because I only have one. Weget probably two mile like 50

(18:06):
and I'm like, I really have topee. And I think I couldn't go
into the like mile 70 like Ijust tried and try it. You know,
cuz something in your head like,this isn't right. This isn't
gonna work. And eventually, it'sjust like, Oh, this is great.

Yeah, you're still reading terrain. you're
checking up on brakes, you know,you're getting your mat in the
gas and you're just learning tofly.

Unknown (18:35):
Yeah. And it's great to because I there's holes in my
floorboard so I just stick thehose there goes well,

I think you missed it a little bit in the in
the Seine. I think the scene isyou're not a pro or something
along those lines until you havea catheter fail story. It they
are absolutely the best. Youknow, they're they're the best.
They are the greatest one of thegreatest inventions for offroad
racing. But invariably, you willhave a failure either that haec

(19:08):
will come off or you'll kink thehose or something. I personally
like like guys like CodyAddington. I love Cody the
second time we're going to talkabout Cody. Cody is one of the
guys he prefers to leave his oneven after the race. And if you
know that which now now Cody isgoing to punch me next on my
scene because just after race,look at him and if you see a
little hose hanging out thebottom just go over and stand

(19:30):
next to him maybe stand on topof it.

Oh my god

or anybody else. That's the April Fool's
joke. Now I'm somewhat joking,but I'm not

wanting bad karma.

Yeah, that's, that's it. I won't see Cody
until national so I have alittle bit of time to, to
avoiding he's gonna get me butthat's that's exactly what you
can see. And then the otherthing is, you they give you
extra length. And it seems likethe mistake everyone makes is
they cut it while they're Likethey, like they sit down, or
they're standing up when theycut it. That's always they

(20:05):
you're standing up, and you seehow long it is and then you cut
it and then you sit then whenyou sit down, it sucks up into
your, your fire suit. And thenit's like six inches from the
bottom of your pant calf. Andthen you invariably, if you do
pee, it's gonna fill your shoe.
That's the other failure thatI've definitely seen.

Unknown (20:25):
Easy failures if you have like one small failure,
because we pulled it in a mainpit, and I think right before
that I had accidentally likepulled the hose up through the
floorboard. So I didn't want topee all over my floorboard. So
we're in main pit, they'rechanging out my leaf springs,
and my sister standing over tothe side. I'm like, hey, Sarah,
you want to do something gross?
Can you pull my catheter throughthe floorboard? She's like,

(20:49):
Yeah, sure.

Well, yeah, we've read the stories about the
pit guy runs over in there doingthe the fluid checks. And that
bolt checking, though, we'll seethe fluid running out because
either the driver or the COdriver can't, you know, release
their bladder while they'regoing right, while the vehicles
going, they need to be stopped.
And which day like you justsaid, that's an interesting
feeling to do it while you'removing. And especially driving.

(21:16):
It's because you're strapped inthe seat and all that it's a
little it's a little awkward.

Unknown (21:22):
It's totally unnatural, but you get used to it when you
actually enjoy it. sounds weird,but that's how it is.

I'm glad we're having this conversation because
I've tried to describe the styleof people. Not that I'm weird or
curious about it. But I knowthat it's a very different
experience for the equipmentthat the women have.

Unknown (21:41):
Yeah, and that's one of the things that I've it comes up
a lot. Not for me personally,like I've heard the question
asked of other female racersbefore it's like, you know, what
do you do if you have to peewhile you're racing? And I
haven't heard a catheter as aviable resource very often. So

(22:03):
hey, ladies, if you want toraise us a catheter, PSA, you

can go get go over to the rugged trailer and
get them where I'm on right?
Yeah.

Unknown (22:11):
Oh,

so let's jump back. So right now today, today
you you live in Reno todayyou're working at bomber fabric.
You're a Californian, right?
from California,

Unknown (22:22):
California. Yep. Born and raised. So I'm originally
from the San Francisco Bay Area.
Born in Hayward pretty muchraised in San Ramon, which is
like the next town over fromDanville where Jason Scheer
lives and moved to Reno twoyears ago to get out of
California obviously, and youknow, be closer to Rubicon be

(22:44):
closer to four days all thewheel and trails, cheaper for
everything. So,

yes. So looking at your Facebook Live your
social media presence, lookingat your question, your are your
questions to me, or you'requestioning to me, you and your
family. You are just outsidepeople you guys recreate every
weekend, you're somewhereoutside doing something?

Unknown (23:05):
Pretty much yeah, I mean, like, we're definitely not
home bodies. We definitely don'tlike sit at home watching TV or
anything like that. But growingup, we spent a lot of weekends
at a lake out in CalaverasCounty, you know, Gold Country
and California. Spent a lot oftime there because I grew up
around jet skis like that's howmy parents met was racing, get

(23:27):
skis. And so racing is

in your blood.
Pretty much.

Unknown (23:30):
Yeah, like even my grandparents raised my my mom's
parents both raised even, youknow, my grandpa and grandma
Actually, I've learnt her rateright now with a little jet
skier on it. But yeah, so mygrandparents raised, both my
parents raised. And then jetskis kind of fell out of
fashion, I guess, in the late80s, early 90s. And the last

(23:51):
time that my family was oncircuit was 1983 of the year I
was born. And after that theyjust kind of fell away from it.

So really the stand up skis. Yeah, okay. Yeah.
And that's it manufacturers justkind of stopped making like,
because they went for all thesit down skis, right.

Unknown (24:09):
Yeah, that's the easier one to rent to people who've
never done it before. You know,that's the market but now I see
jet skis coming back in force.
Like that's a cool thing to havethis summer, you know, tow a jet
ski behind your y j, your, yourvolume

will just keep growing up as well. And, like
the one that we had a waveblaster, a Yamaha wave blaster.
What I wouldn't give to have oneof those today. I would even
have one back.

Unknown (24:35):
Yeah, I think we may still have I think my brother
has my grandma's old ski stillher old standard. But as far as
like all the old equipment weused to have, we still have, do
you know what a jet made is? No,it's I know it's a jetski
engine. And it's a littlefiberglass hole with like five
seats in it. And it's liketotally gutless. And we only

(24:58):
ever use the thing for Like,towing tubes and like broken
skis off the lake. But myparents still have that. And
that was my mom's request forMother's Day, this past weekend
was for my dad to get that thingrunning so she could tow it to
the lake and have a light day onit. So that's what we got going
for us.

Is it like a precursor to the mini jet boats?

Unknown (25:19):
Yeah, but slower. A lot slower. Right? Yeah. lafleur is
cool little boats. I don't evenknow why they made them the way
they did. But that's what we'vegot just one of those oddball
little things. We'll talk

to you about your parents, right. They they
are heavily involved in yourprogram, and not just your
program heavily involved in Kwage in general. They volunteer.
Your mom's kind of a famousvolunteer.

Unknown (25:43):
Yeah, kinda. Yeah, so this off roading, and outdoorsy
stuff has always kind of been afamily thing for us. And so like
if one of us is into it, I mean,all of us are into it. Not even
just one of us is into it. Butwe started college in 2014. And
it was kind of just on a whim,we went down on like a
Wednesday, Thursday, Fridaydeal. And my mom was like, Well,

(26:07):
how can we fully immerseourselves in this? How can we
get like the best seats in theHouse, and I was volunteering.
So we've been volunteering since2014, every year, and this year,
actually, on a whim. Right afterI had finished racing on
Thursday was the volunteerraffle, which is kind of a big

(26:28):
deal. If you know about it, youknow, all the manufacturers
throw in a bunch of really coolprizes. And that's like, you
know, you had the big volunteermeeting beforehand. And then you
have the raffle, and everybodyshows up for it. And on a whim,
my mom ran Matt this year.
Awesome.

Totally cool.

Dave, suckered me in 2010. I just happen to be
like walking by the big tentjust before that, and he pulled
me in and I got a I did theraffle that year. I had no idea
I was in the wrong place at theright time, I think was the way
that went. But it really openedmy eyes to one how many
volunteers there were in? Thisis 11 years ago. I mean, k which

(27:10):
was it was big in Adam Woodleywould say it's that it's that
damn big No, it's like, fivetimes that six times that today,
it's completely a differentanimal. But how many volunteers
are were and just how grateful Iwas for what they were doing and
why they're like, you couldn'tget me to go out to the middle
of nowhere and sit in my jeep.
I'm just not like, I can't doit. And work winch recovery on,

(27:32):
let's say, outer limits orsomewhere. I'm not built for
that. Well, I wasn't a very goodWheeler to begin with. I'm a
good racer, not a good Wheeler.
And maybe that's the patient'sthing, but just the volunteerism
and all the people that throwingtheir hat in the ring to help is
just it's it's really cool towatch.

Unknown (27:52):
Oh, yeah, for sure. And I mean, I guess it must take a
special person but like Iactually really enjoy
volunteering and helping aracers and like be spectators
even like my favorite position.
Volunteering isn't was doing theroad crossing at backdoor back
when you could go across andlike sit up in the, you know,

(28:13):
the other side of the KTM there.
So that was the very first Iguess, position that I held.
That was the first time that Ivolunteered with I did that. And
I actually went back every yearafter to try to get the same one
I would just like show up theback door on Friday and be like,
Hey, you guys need some extrahelp. But you know, Reading

(28:33):
Recovery is super fun justhelping up the racers.
Everybody's like super thankfulfor the help. And for all the
volunteers being out there andeven sitting in the middle of
nowhere is kind of cool becausewe did a road crop like a remote
road crossing on lap one oneyear, and the PSC buggy broke
down like right in front of us.
So this guy's got out. I calledit in and then we made him

(28:56):
burgers. Oh, fun. They just hangout.

Yeah. One fun.
And then your your mom. If Iunderstand, right? she tends to
like she likes to docheckpoints.

Unknown (29:07):
Yes. The last couple of years when they were doing
sticker checkpoints. That wasthe funnel idea for sure.
Alright, so she is checkpointDolly. checkpoint Dolly.

So that's your Dolly like Dolly Parton. Dolly?
What's your dad's name? Eric,and he's fully immersed too.
He's fully into it as well,right?

Unknown (29:26):
Oh, yeah. He goes where we go.

And then you have some siblings that are all
but one of your siblings is justheavily involved with you as
well as there's like, I thinkyou're the oldest. I think
there's four of you.

Unknown (29:38):
Correct? Yeah, I'm the oldest. I have three siblings,
two brothers. One sister. Myyoungest brother is also
involved in it. He has his ownfour runner. He built it to the
Hill, you know, tore it downrebuilt that again. He's got a
two year old daughter who lovescoming along with us. She's
adorable. Oh, it's cute. Andthen my My youngest sister,

(30:01):
youngest sibling, my sister,also has a samurai that I helped
her build. And she doesn't feelit that often. But she always
comes with us to Kaylee, she shealways has a great time. We even
have like a cowboy a sisterplus, like, she's not a
biological sibling. But she'sbeen around the family forever.
And she lived in my parents fora while. And even she has a

(30:23):
samurai and she comes wheelingwith us. So

they're kind of like a motorcycle gang. But like
smaller

Unknown (30:30):
Yeah, we all live in the same house at one point or
another.

Like the symrise are smaller than the
motorcycles. motors, yourrelated sister if I saw right in
I'll talk about this. So youknow, she her job, you know, you
fabricate, she runs a pumptruck, the concrete pump truck,
a boom, yeah. Do you know, youknow what, how many meter boom

(30:54):
she runs? Or do they rotator onthe different trucks? Or does
she have specifically she'sassigned the 27 meter, the 30
meter?

Unknown (31:04):
I, you know, that is a that is a number that I should
know. And I don't I know, it'sone of the bigger trucks she has
her own. I know, it's one of thebigger trips, like I just said,
but I don't know the size of it.
I know she has her class A andall that crap.

I was super impressed when you shared that
with me. And then I'm lookingthrough some pictures, I see her
you know, that's basically likeplaying. That's a really hard
video game. But you're basicallyplaying a video game all day,
you know, you're on your feet.
One the setup of the break down.
I don't know how she does it,like I've seen you. Because I'm
involved in concrete as well, ona business and the work that

(31:41):
those pump truck guys they'vegot, they've got to be the first
one on the job. So they'rethey're three in the morning.
That means they're leaving theirhouse at 1am driving to get in
the truck and getting on thetruck and getting to the job
site. And getting set up beforefirst concrete rolls at 334 or
430 in the morning. And one ofthey put the outriggers out on

(32:01):
the on the pump truck, thenthey're sliding, you know, all
the cribbing all the wood thatgoes underneath, making sure
those things don't sink and justslim those things around. Or, I
mean they weigh 100 and 150pounds, no problem easy. So you
guys set those up. And thenafter they've sat there all day,
most of the time in mud in myworld, then you got to pull them

(32:21):
out now they got extra 50 poundsof mud on them. You got click
clean up the street. So they'reshoveling the concrete out of
the hopper that fallen out onthe street. I mean, like all the
stuff and then they got to driveback and wash the truck and make
sure that things clean. So theconcrete been set up in it. That
is a that's a hard damn job.

Unknown (32:40):
Yeah. And she followed my dad's footsteps for that one
cuz he's been doing it since wewere kids, because he started at
this company as a mechanic andworked his way up to the pump
operator. And then a coupleyears ago, my sister had some
downtime. So she started goingto work with my dad. And now
she's pumping concrete to she'sgot her own pump and her my dad

(33:01):
kind of switch off, you know,taking days off, you know, if
he's going to be gone, she'sgonna work. Oh, we're gonna be
gone. He's gonna work. So yeah.

It's basically like, hydraulically painting a
picture, right? You're usinghydraulics on this boom. So
they've got the controller hangsaround their neck, and they can
kind of walk all over thejobsite. But then the joysticks
they're running the speed of thepump, and then they're running
it left right up down in theremaking sure if they swing it a

(33:31):
little too fast. They're gonnahurt somebody. Like there's that
the hose that's hanging outwithout I mean, it's like a I
guess it's like a fire hose youknow? Like you see a fire hose
gets too much pressure and goesflying around and Yeah, exactly.
It's exactly like that onlyshooting concrete

kind of heavy.

I don't know your sister but she's already a
hero of mine. Like I just thewhere with all that you have to
have. I looked at those guys.
Like I see him. I'm just like,man, they they're just the ones
that they just absolutely takethe beating. Just absolutely
take a beating. And there's likeno break. There's like no break
for him. Like if they got to gothe bathroom. It's like if they
get they are the one guy on thejob that if they have to take

(34:14):
the break. The whole job takes abreak.

Unknown (34:19):
Oh, yeah, no, my dad was a catheter on his job site.
down

now, now your sister's gonna be like okay, can
you swing by ragged at the nextrace and pick me up a case.
And then your, your brotherStuart, what's what's Stewart do
he say he's got a four wheelerfour runner and he's in a
wheeling

Unknown (34:45):
that. So he was actually a mechanic at the same
company that my dad my sisterwere working out for a while. It
was really funny for a whilethere like, I was the only
sibling that didn't work at thatcompany. So he kind of started
as the mechanic there. And whenCOVID hit, they laid him off. So

(35:05):
he went to work for his fatherin law doing odd jobs here and
there. And right now he'sunemployed is working on his
trip. So I actually sent my Ihave a little Bailey driver,
Chevy Cavalier. So I sent thatdown for him to work on a couple
of weeks ago.

Yeah, threw him some work and also your car
taken care of. Right?

Yeah, exactly.

In high school, did you think you were playing?
or What was your What was your,as a high schooler looking
forward to being an adult?
You're using air quotes? Youknow, I think being adults,
very, very loose term and thrownaround way too much these days.
But uh, adulting. As you lookforward to it, did you? What was

(35:47):
your kind of career goals basedon career path? Is your career
path, you end up going tocommunity college to learn to
weld? Well, at what point didthat start kind of becoming what
you wanted to do? Or decided todo? And what kind of were some
of the factors that maybe otheryoung women would look towards
and say, you know, that'ssomething that would interest
me, that's something that Iwould like to do.

Unknown (36:09):
Yeah, so going all the way back, if I'm dancing, when I
was in high school, and lookingforward, I thought, you know,
the whole thing was drilled intomy head, like you have to go to
college be successful, make anymoney. So that's was kind of the
path that I took. I was, youknow, I didn't have the grades

(36:29):
to try to apply to a four yearschool. So I went straight into
community college thinking I'dtake my Gen Ed's there and then
transfer. And initially, Iwanted to be a large animal that
I wanted to go into, like ahorse veterinary program. So
that's what I was doing for thefirst two, I think two years at
community college was I was justworking towards my gen ed to

(36:51):
transfer into that program. Andthen at the same time, I was
doing like volunteer work withhorses. Basically, I was going
back and forth to a barn takingcare of people's horses when I
was working for a trainer for awhile. And at some point, I
realized, like, I didn't reallywant to do this. So there was a

(37:12):
hiatus period, almost where Ididn't know what I was doing
wasn't very long. But I took awelding class in community
college just so that I can builda set of rock sliders for my
samurai, like it was, how do Iput this in the way that I want
to put it, all I wanted to dowas build this set of rock
sliders in this class. So I tookthe one naked class. And I never

(37:36):
finished the rock sliders, but Iended up taking all the welding
classes that the communitycollege offered. And even going
all the way back to like, in myvery first welding class, I was
we had a you know, there's a labperiod, and a in class period,
lab and lecture. So I'm sittingin the lecture period, and we're

(37:57):
watching a video from AmericanWelding Society, and Jessi combs
is in the video. And so I'msitting in the back, like back
in the class, like, I just wantto build this set of rock
sliders that I see Jesse in thevideo. I'm like, if you can do
it, I can do it. Why don't Ijust become a welder? It
snowballed.

And here you are. Well, I was I was curious
about that. Before we closethat, were you. Were you in art?
Were you a creative mindedindividual to begin with?

Unknown (38:22):
I think it was it was it was definitely muted. Coming
from in middle school, I did alot of stuff with like,
Photoshop and things like that.
But it was never really a skillthat was cultivated for me. So
the artistic side never reallycame out. It was you know, going
into school and going intocommunity college, it was always
like, what kind of a job can Iget to make money and make a

(38:43):
living? And so when I got tothat point where I needed to
pick what I wanted to do, I waskind of looking at it like,
well, I want to be inautomotive, and who makes the
most money in a basically customautomotive shop? And my answer

(39:05):
was the fabricator. That's whatI went with.

I like it. I mean, I like it. So advice you
would give for other young womenthat are looking to get into
into a trade, yummy there, orjust just dumb luck or

Unknown (39:24):
not even dumb luck, like just my advice, and it's
really broad is just do it.
Don't worry about what otherpeople are gonna think or
imprint on you. If it issomething that you want to do,
you can just dive into it, andmake your own path. Go for it.
You know,

that's exactly what I would say that I would
give that advice to anybody. ButI think that's especially true
of females in a male dominatedgenre. I mean, we're out of
shortage for welders in thiscountry to begin with, it pays
well. And now I see onInstagram, you know, I see
regular welders on a dailybasis. That are now you know,

(40:01):
you're penetrating into thepipeline fields into the job
shop fields, and they'reexecuting there and they're
executing on the inspectionside, there is absolutely the
barriers that I think existedeven just five years ago. And
then 10 years ago and 20 yearsago for females to participate
in those fields are completelybroke down. And, and some of it

(40:24):
is, Jesse, Jesse did a she wasjust a champion for females in
the workforce. And God bless herfor I know, today. You were
you're involved with Jesse Helmsfoundation. Correct. And I yeah,
I don't think anyone has to askquestion about maybe, you know,
supporting that organization, I,you know, it's really sad that

(40:45):
we lost Jesse, because I knowtoday, she'd still be carrying
that torch hard and heavy. Butthere's a lot of other people
that in the, I guess the vacuumof her not being there, have
picked up and carried that thattorch as well. And it's really
cool to see all the ladies, theyoung ladies that have come out
of that organization, or Ishouldn't say come out of that
organization, but that thatorganization has had the

(41:07):
opportunity to support and helpthem foster their skill sets,
and then help them chase theirdreams.

Unknown (41:15):
Yeah, and that's, that's the whole, the whole
point of the organization is tocultivate the next generation of
female Trail Blazers, becauseit's not easy being different.
Basically, what, that's what itboils down to. So to bring up a
whole Sisterhood of women thatare breaking barriers in the way

(41:38):
that they are, and to be a partof that is really humbling, and
super special to me, because Iknow, because obviously Jesse
was a big influence on me. Andso if I can show someone else,
that they can do it, too, that'ssomething that would make me
really happy.

Well, you just said something that just strikes
a chord with me, you know, aboutbeing different. We watch the
like Hollywood and Hollywoodmovies or TV shows, and we
really celebrate being differenton TV shows. But in practice in
real world, we don't we weostracize different.

Unknown (42:13):
Yeah. And, and it kind of works out in Hollywood, you
when you're putting it that way.
Cuz putting our differences outthere is probably one of the
best ways to overcome them. justlaying it out on the table, and
just normalizing it. Right,basic?
Absolutely.

If that makes any sense.

Well, there'll be this will probably come
across as a dig, you know, it'slike, if we normalize short
coursing, then we can thennormalize it in the rulebook to
wear short courses is notacceptable.

Unknown (42:48):
Going back to current events.

I've had so many conversations in the last
couple, in the last week orwhatever around the new rulebook
and people, you know, justtexting or calling or Facebook
Messenger, and you know, like,what's your take on these? And
I'm like, Well, I don't like Ireally, I really thought that we
had gotten to a place where,after my lab, and after rush

(43:18):
that there was rules that werein place, and then they run
forced, I find it unfortunatethat people that, you know,
broke the rules, or were foundto be in violation of the rules
for short courses, or goingbackwards, on course, that they
were actually on the same team,I don't think there was any ill
will or coordination or intentto do that. They just have to

(43:38):
happen to be the ones that werethere. But then I really thought
we were going, I don't know,just I digress. I feel like we
were in the right place goingthe right direction, as far as
rules and transparency. And thenjust felt like this week. And
I'm not the only one. I'm notdriver. I have no dog in the
game. But a lot of the otherdrivers that I've heard from

(44:01):
felt like the rug got pulled outfrom underneath that
transparency. What's your takeon that?

Unknown (44:05):
I'm not in 44 100. So I have never understood. But,

but they'll say those same rules apply to your
class.

Unknown (44:12):
Yeah, the same rules apply, but we're a lot slower.
So it's a lot easier for us inthat short course. I guess.

I don't know. I

Unknown (44:21):
kind of been keeping the whole conversation at arm's
length because I like I said Idon't really have any rule
speak. But I do keep up withlike the new rules and obviously
current events.

Oh, and it makes forget internet drama to
like, like the internet iseating that up. I mean, people
get off on drama. Me included. Ilove a good roast.

Grab the popcorn.

Yeah. Or a train wreck whatever you want to
call it. I know it's really bad,but I can't look away. Yeah, I

Unknown (44:51):
think that was that was probably the highlight of my
whole drive home from Moab. justreading the comments from the
talented insiders group.

It has been your it really has been great.
Well, no, I will get off that.
Yeah, I'd really do appreciateyour insight on, on how you
ended up in the world of puttinga technical trade and learning
to trade and now taking thesteps to hone your trade and
make career changes to take itto the next level. And yeah,
Jesse was a good you know, goodfabric, a great fabricator. Even

(45:23):
if he was a dude, it doesn'tmatter. But in the off road
world, we've had a yo JessicaJohnson. I think a lot of people
look up to her. I think she'sdone a very good job. But then
she's kind of fallen. She waswith Miller Motorsports for a
long time. And then now I thinkshe got a job in a job shop
while in a shop I haven't seenher around ultra for but I think
it's so freakin cool to have youhow you're chasing it, if that

(45:47):
makes sense.

Unknown (45:50):
Even from like a like how I'm kind of merging my
professional world? And yeah,yes, this hobby. Yeah, yeah.
Well, it's kind of how I doveinto it to begin with, because,
you know, obviously, from thevery beginning, I wanted to be
an automotive I never, everexpected it to get this far. But
I always kind of try to go intothings with zero expectation. So

(46:11):
I'm always pleasantly surprisedwhen something cool does happen.
So just full immersion is how Ilike to do things. So

you did the volunteerism like so you
volunteer to K wage, and nowyou're racing k wage, you took a
welding class, and then you tookeverything in the every welding
class they had. And then nowthat's your job. You know, now
you're doing that as a career.
And now you're racing, as well.
I just, I don't know, if I'msure you can see it, but from my

(46:43):
standpoint, and why you'resitting in front of me is
because of these twotrajectories. And the you're a
champion for the organization,and you're a champion for
basically the ultra for family.
And then over here, you're alsoa champion for women in the
workplace doing technical jobs.
Oh, thank you.

Unknown (46:59):
Yeah, it's, it obviously verges together
because now I you know, I'm aracer, and I work on race cars
every day, which blows me awayevery single day but that's what
I do every day now. It's reallycool.

So you have some really cool rock crawling
stories that I want to jump backinto the they started you know,
certainly when you're growing upand then later on in life and
then now where we are today, butyour mom and dad wheeling the
Rubicon you grew up in a placewhere you could go the Rubicon
on a regular basis which I'menvious because there's a lot of
guys that have been on the showthey're like oh yeah go the
Rubicon on a regular basis likelike like good be we were there

(47:35):
every weekend. Or Jason shearlike how often they're up there
on ways is like all of pirateshave you know a pirate four by
four did they just like hang outon the Rubicon yet? Apparently
they did. They like they reallydid. They even built a forum
around it. But now we hang outall in Johnson Valley one time a
year random races or, you know,around the country. But so your

(47:58):
dad has a has a rig that weshould all think that's
noticeable? recognizable? What'sthat?

Unknown (48:04):
Yep, that was easy. It was super clapped out for a
runner at this point. Two yearsago, he rolled it on its lid and
smashed it completely. And so hecut the top off and I put this
really haggard cage on it. Buthe's got a Papa John's pizza
sign on top of it. So anybodywho's listening, if you ever see

(48:24):
a clap that Toyota with a PapaJohn's pizza sign on top asked
for pizza. You will not bedisappointed.

So I've met your dad. And I've actually
asked that but had no idea thatthere was I didn't know you and
I didn't know who he was. It wasjust he had we really honestly
thought he was like the on likebed delivery guy. Like, that
would make sense. Right? And wewere so wrong. Like we couldn't
have been we couldn't have beenwrong about that.

Unknown (48:55):
You know, I get that story all the time. Like when I
tell people my dad's got thefour letter with the top jobs be
beside they're like, Oh, yeah, Imet that guy. And she gave me
pizza was

super cool. I love it. You know, you've got a
couple CMEs in the group, yourdad's got a Yoda. And then I
know at some point in life, youend up involved with Justin
Reese in his program. And in hisYoda, right. I met Justin Hall.
Justin hall that

Unknown (49:21):
Samurai? Yeah, yes, yes. So I've known Justin for a
couple years now. And 2019 Ihelped with his pit crew. That
was kind of one of the babysteps that I took to racing was
like I volunteered for a whilethat I'd gotten myself out of
pit crews. I'd seen that part ofracing. And then the very next
year was when I raised but whileI was paying for Justin Hall,

(49:44):
we'd all come back to main pitfrom the remote pit. We were
waiting for Justin to come in.
He came in third that year. Andthe car that came in right
before him was Justin Reese inhis little Toyota. Okay, and so
it was like a huge Deal. He camein first in stock class and he
had the drone on him like awhole time coming in. And he
comes across the podium andeveryone likes dope out of their

(50:07):
minds. And I'm looking up thereand I'm, you know, I see this
Toyota and in my mind, I'mthinking, you know, my dad has a
similar truck, and I goeverywhere that that thing goes
and my Samurai so if Justin'sSamurai can do it, or Justin's
Toyota can do it then. So can mysamurai. So that was like a huge
lightbulb moment for me.

And then you never looked back, right?

Unknown (50:30):
Pretty much.

What did you do? What do you got? When you
got back from that? Did you lookat your Sammy and be like, I'm
sorry, baby, but I'm gonna cutyou up and make your race car.
How did you make thatdetermination? Like, what was
the steps to go? I'm gonna raceqH, you've been bit you've been
there since 2014. Volunteering.
Now you're to the point, you'relike, Okay, I'm gonna be a
racer.

Unknown (50:51):
I don't think I ever actually said those words to
myself. But I was just like, Iwant to try, you know, I want a
shot at the world's hardest oneday off road race. And
initially, I was like, I don'treally want to raise my samurai.
It's gonna be superuncomfortable. I love my little
rig. I don't want to screw itup. I'll build something else to
raise qH. And what ended uphappening was Jesse passed away.

(51:14):
And that day, I was on the phonewith my brother. And we were
both kind of reminiscing aboutit. And at the time, my brother
was helping to build a 4500 car45 or 48. And so he was gonna co
drive or drive. I can't remembera driver coder for that car. But
he comes back to me, and we'retalking about Jesse and he's
like, why don't you race? AndI'm like, Oh, snap. Why don't I

(51:40):
race? You didn't

have a good excuse for you.

Unknown (51:43):
I didn't have a good excuse, cuz I wanted to. And
from what I've found, you know,Jesse influenced a lot of people
to make big jumps like that. Andunfortunately, her passing, I
guess, since a lot of us overthe edge to make big leaps. And
that was my big leap, was divingstraight into racing a samurai

(52:07):
on 30 ones and kayo Ah, so

now you have 2k wages under your belt.

Unknown (52:13):
Yeah, ish. No finishes yet, but I'll get there.

Yeah, you need us. We asked a for an easier
course or you need to get morewheelbase. So well, I'm going
somewhere with this. I mean,basically, you've looked out
there. And I think there's otherother opportunities of guys to
look, look towards what they'vedone out there for pushing the
limits. And, you know, a coupleof you actually noted it in your

(52:40):
notes. But you know, my notes. Imean, I'm super fan of these
guys, the guys that took the UTVs, and registered them in
4400.

Unknown (52:48):
Oh, yeah. It's Cody Miller, right.

Yeah. Yep.

Unknown (52:51):
That's what I'm looking for. Yep. That was another thing
was, I think I was sittingaround and 29 was it 2019? Good.
He raised that one bill. It was2020 that he raised. Yeah. So it
was the day after I had raisedand I was volunteering. And I
came back to do like crowdcontrol or something it
chocolate thunder. And so I'msitting at chocolate Thunder
watching the jumbotron. And Isee Cody Miller curve across the

(53:13):
finish line, and it friggin UTVon 32 inch tall tires in like,
15th place. I'm like, if he cando it, I can do it. You know, it
was another one of thosemoments. And going back, like I
know, now that he's aprofessional racer, and all that
stuff, and he has what it takes.
but on the same token,

so do you.

Unknown (53:35):
Anyone could do it?
Yeah. You know, why not?

I love the gauntlet that you just threw
down. You just threw down a barthat I've not heard in so long.
And I don't know, I definitelyhaven't heard on this show. But
you said I raced. And then theday after I race. I went and
volunteered to be out on court acourse workers. So not only you
raced, you had your race andthen that was in the MC the next

(54:00):
day you go work the 4400 courseas a volunteer.

Unknown (54:05):
Yeah, I don't know.
That was probably the last timeI'm going to do that. Because
that was exhausting. But it wascool, because my race car was
still moving under its ownpower. So I actually chased a
couple cars down on course thatso that was pretty efficient.
And it was, it's always a lot offun to volunteer for 44.

I mean, that puts you I mean, in my book if
you'd like you had some coolpoints, but you just set it up
like, okay, you think you'rethat involved. Look, I raced
yesterday, and look, I'm stillhere, and I'm gonna go out there
and volunteer for this. I lovethat.

Unknown (54:37):
Yeah, well, I

might as well use it as somebody to scoop you
up and throw you on their pitcrew on race day for the four
different race and that's thecase. Probably gonna be Randy.
That this is true. You've workedyour way well into that. My next
question along those lines iscan you see yourself use
continue racing your classcontinue to do what you do
continue to push the limitsthere. Can you see yourself In a

(55:01):
right seat and a 4400 car,

Unknown (55:03):
you mean the wrong seat?

That one, you can still be the same in that
seat or the driver's seat, as itturns out.

Unknown (55:11):
When you put it that way, I've actually never thought
along those lines, but I have myyes kind of person. If someone
gives me an opportunity likethat, I'm not going to pass it
up.

Don't say no,

Unknown (55:22):
yeah, it's definitely something that like I kind of
try to prep myself or mentallyto, it's just being a co driver,
because I haven't done it, Iguess officially yet. but on the
same token, like I'm waiting forsomeone to ask me to. So I
hopefully I'm good at it.

We got to mount a low Rance in your car to your
Cavalier to drive to and fromwork with your lower aunt. So
you can do that. Yeah, that washow I learned how to use the
Lorenz I mounted it in my dailydriver, Duramax truck and I
plotted my drive. And yeah, andyou did that for, you know, more

(56:01):
than a year and you startfiguring out what every little
thing does, you're sitting intraffic, you're bumper to
bumper. Next thing you know,you're filling out, why is it
spinning? Okay, what do I needto do to kill man overboard, I
hit the man overboard, you know,like what they do, or you'd see
something, and you'd mark it,and then try to make the notes

(56:23):
while you're driving like littlestuff. And next thing you know,
after enough time, I felt like Iwas really comfortable with it.
today. I know technology hascontinued to progress with lead
mabin all the other apps, Ihaven't kept up. So I'd be
totally worthless back using the12 year old tech.

Unknown (56:41):
But that's actually really great advice is just to
use that kind of tech on like aday to day basis. And the one
that I personally use is calledthe Gaya. And it's just a GPS
mapping app. I've used it for acouple years now just to map
like the trails that I gowheeling on every weekend. And
so I'm super familiar with it.
And I'm trying to get mybrother, my dad familiar with

(57:02):
it, too. And my, my other codriver Jason from this year is
super familiar with it. And it'syou know, we just stick with
what we know. And it's supereasy.

I think that's cool. So what is guyatt? g? I

Unknown (57:13):
YA, it's GA.

Okay,

Unknown (57:17):
yeah. So and it's just a super simple app that you can
download on your phone or yourtablet or whatever. And you can
drop waypoints and make notes.
And you can use it offline andchose the maps and like I just
download the GPS file from PCIand download it straight into
the app. And I work so.

Oh, very cool.
Okay, let's see. That's, that'sthat's a great little nugget
that you could throw onto yourphone. Yeah, cuz I, that's been
my Achilles heel, runningaround, you know, Johnson Valley
on your race week or whatever,how the prerunner out and the
cooler and the chairs andbasically dicking off a cage,
which is what I absolutely loveto do. And not having the Course

(57:59):
Map I know about what the Korealike, I will look at the Course
Map. And so I have a pretty goodidea where everything is but at
the same time being exactly onit or off it or whatever. If you
can throw it on your cell phone.
So gi AI

Unknown (58:15):
ga I I got that one.
Yeah, so it's I don't think it'dbe super easy for just a regular
spectator to download the coursemaps, I think probably the best
way for a spectator to do it isI know Carter tracks. last
couple years, I think on nextoff road picked it up this year.

(58:36):
But yeah, just sticking withwhat you know. And I've used the
same app for tracking regulartrails and easy peasy.

So let's carry that over to when you're not
wheeling. But you're stillrecreating outside. What are
your What are your go twos?
kayaking, paddleboarding? Areyou a jogger, because I'm
looking at your list and you'velisted all those things. And I'm
like, awesome.

Unknown (59:01):
Yeah, I guess my I mean, I'm super into full
immersion with this wholeoperating thing. So mostly what
I do is off roading and racingand working on my Samurai or
fabricating or anything likethat. But if I've got downtime,
I'm probably camping. Or if Ihave downtime, like after work
some days I'll go paddleboardinghere take my dog out hiking or
stuff like outdoorsy stuff, youknow

picking up trash at moon rocks,

Unknown (59:24):
yeah, picking up trash and Buddha actually given back
that's a that's actually areally big one. I'm glad you
brought that up. Because, youknow, I know it's hard to
sacrifice a weekend tovolunteering but it is so worth
it and it makes me so happy togo out and do that kind of
stuff. Like all of you. Myfriend Harry Wagner is

oh Harry situations

Unknown (59:45):
yes Harry situation.
He's actually been really good.
and organize this friends andmoon rocks page and organize a
couple different trash bucket,trash pickups after big weekends
out there. And those are superfun to help. volunteer at
because the place just gets liketrash, obviously. But there's
that. And then I tried tovolunteer with Rubicon trail

(01:00:08):
foundation every year and domaintenance out at their
property or out on the Rubicontrail. Obviously volunteering at
kayo H is a big one. Just likeyou know, I try to go out of my
out of my way to give back tothe community and give back to
these places that where werecreate, if we don't take care
of them, they're going to gettaken away from us. So keeping

(01:00:31):
them up to date is is really bigfor me.

Wyatt Pemberton (01:00:34):
Your philanthropy is off the charts.
I feel like a lesser human atthis point in the conversation
about how much of your lifeyou're dedicating on an
annualized basis to to all ofthis? Well, I try. Oh, man,

Unknown (01:00:51):
it's kind of a big deal to be just because I know, at
least out here on the westcoast, I've been following. Have
you ever heard of Pismo Beach?

Yeah, and the closures?

Unknown (01:01:00):
Yeah. And so I've been following that for the last
couple years. And it's like itbreaks my heart to see these
places close to pismo isactually one of the first places
where I actually got to go outand experience for woodland and
stuff like that. So to see thatclose makes an impact on me to
want to keep these places openand accessible for recreation

(01:01:20):
for all of us. Even the assholesthat want to litter. but on the
same token, educating people topick up the trash, and don't
leave white flowers, stuff likethat is really big for me. So I
try to push that as much as Ican. And I wish I could do more.
But there was more time today.

What is the current situation on pismo and
what's in Do you know, like thecurrent situation because I
don't know if the head on Oceanadunes like that. I know that in
California, they're trying toshut everything down and close
everything down. I thoughtinitially, it had to do with
like dust like that there wasthe dunes were kicking off dust.
But then we had COVID and thedunes were closed. And the dust

(01:02:03):
actually went up.

Unknown (01:02:04):
I guess what I thought

I thought there was more dust while the park was
closed than when it was open.
And so it was a huge feather inthe environment in you know, I
guess the recreation sides capand saying it wasn't it wasn't
the US creating the dust thedust is going to exist. If we're
there, we're not there off thosedunes. When we weren't there,

(01:02:27):
the dust was actually monitoredto be higher. Or at least that's
how I read it. mombi I'd love tohear your take on that.

Unknown (01:02:35):
Pretty much. So take my reporting with a grain of salt.
But from what I understand whatyou were saying is correct. The
I guess particle count duringthe closures was higher than if
a park was open. And that was ahuge feather in the fees cap.

(01:02:58):
But from what I understand theair board that is in charge of
San Luis Obispo County orwhatever. And the board the
trend is shut down. Oceana dunesin pismo is still pushing for
it. And a lot of it is thecommunity that surrounds Oceana
to you because they just theydon't like the wheelers. You

(01:03:21):
know, it's kind of the samesituation Moab where you know,
they have the utvs on the streetmaking a bunch of noise. So they
put put in those noiseordinances and can't dragging
TVs on the street and that kindof thing anymore. And there's a
bunch of people that live aroundpismo these days that just don't
want the four wheelers in townand they don't want to bring in
the money in. So So the lastthing I heard was that the air

(01:03:45):
board is looking to shut downthe dunes in two years. That's
so awful. That's super simple.
It sucks. And it's especiallybecause that's the only place
you can drive a vehicle on thebeach in California. That's the
only part of the coast that youcan drive on. legally.

So you need to move to Texas.

Unknown (01:04:08):
No, I'm in Nevada.

Well, no. Yeah, you did escape California. But
yeah, in Texas windriver. Prettymuch the entire beach. There's
parts that are close, but by andlarge. So my family we're we're
45 minutes from the beach.
There's, I don't know three stopsigns between my house and the
beach. It's mostly highway Hey,but yeah, we'll load it. We'll

(01:04:31):
load up the truck with coolerchairs pop up, you know, boogie
boards, and then yeah, you justback up to the water. And that's
all the cooler out. You take theshovel and you dig a hole for
each corner of your pop up toput the legs in and then you
bury it you know, like sixinches down so then the wind
doesn't you know, take your popup and throw it you know, across
the lake bed like we're allfamiliar with. But yeah, and

(01:04:53):
then that you stayed on there,two, three hours, let the kids
rip it in our waters. Notbeautiful. Like your water,
we're west of the mouth of theMississippi. So our waters brown
here. It's pretty grody. Um,somebody should get clean, you
know, fairly blue. It's mostlyBrown, but it's still warm and
waves and tide and my kids don'tknow any better.

Unknown (01:05:17):
Yeah, laid out here. I mean, obviously not out here in
Nevada but out in California,Northern California, the waters
pretty cold and it's kind ofdark too, so you're not missing
out on much.

Hot and cold water. Nope. Not me at all. Not
me at all.

Unknown (01:05:32):
But I'm here in Nevada.
We've got beaches, you know,we've got beaches on the lakes.
And that's super nice to do.
Like going back to what I likedoing on weekdays when I've got
time, taking my paddleboard outand just getting out on the
water. Like I used to have aboat and it was too expensive.
So paddleboarding is my lessexpensive option to getting out
on the lake because you know,growing up around jetski kind of

(01:05:54):
the thing that I have to do isbe out on the water, you know,
go fishing, paddleboarding,kayaking, floating, whatever.

Then how are the lake levels right now? Are
they all just super low? superlow? Yeah, that's Yeah, dude. Be
it said like Folsom Lake waslike, it wasn't a lake. It was a
puddle.

Unknown (01:06:11):
Yeah, the one that I usually go to down here. Like
Washoe. It's actually like abuilt in cow pasture. I think
it's probably like 10 feet atthe deepest. Oh, that's
terrible. But yeah, we had acrappy rainfall this year.

Oh, now that your racer? What's the coolest
thing that has happened there?
Trent transformed or translatedin your life? Now that you are
you strap on the helmet and youtake the green flag? Oh, you're
quiet, long pregnant pausethinking about this one. That
many

Unknown (01:06:42):
options. That's really good. So the first thing that
popped into my head was just allthe people that I've met from
racing, and especially frombeing involved with the Jessi
combs Foundation, getting tomeet all of her friends and
hearing their personal storiesof Jesse because I never had a
personal relationship with herhearing. Her friends stories
about her makes me closer to herand her purpose and all that

(01:07:03):
stuff. So yeah, meeting peopleis a big one for me. And then
the other big one is also justrealizing my driving ability,
because, hey, I know I'm a gooddriver. I don't like to toot my
own horn. But I know I can rockcrawl. And then a big turning
point for me was actually Moabwhere we went and pre ran. And I

(01:07:25):
turn to my co driver afterwards.
And I was like, I was goingabout, you know, 25 50% on that.
And He kind of looks back at me.
He's like, Yeah, right, that'sas fast as you can go, whatever.
And so the whole time, you know,we pre run, and we timed it. And
we figured we could do one lap.
That was all we could get to do.
And I freakin sent it it Moaband like, scared. Well, I don't

(01:07:49):
know if I'm pretty sure I scaredmy co driver. But I impressed
myself because what I thoughtwas going like 25 to 50%. I
mean, I probably doubled ortripled my effort, just in the
first lap, like learning how todrive my car that fast learning
how much abuse it can actuallytake. And then how much I can
put it through was pretty cool.

I love seeing your emotion around that, like
your elation about what you'reable to do, what you're able to
accomplish and what you're ableto pull off in that regard. Now,
you rolled the new dean roll ona ledge,

Unknown (01:08:24):
very pre ready. I didn't tip it. Oh, that's
actually kind of a funny story.
Because we were pre reading withAnthony had Saul, who has the
other Samurai that reaches 4600.
So and he he's faster than me.
But he was further up on coursewe come up on him and he's
tipped over. And so we helprecover him and he's righted.
And then we're like backing outto take another line. And at

(01:08:45):
this point, I'm like it'sgetting late in the day. And
we're just trying to get back tocamp and be done with
prewriting. And I startedbacking down this ledge and like
feeling it go back and back. Andthen the front end starts
lifting and I'm like I can keepgoing back. Nope. tip it over.
Right? It's natural habitat.

(01:09:05):
terrible happens.

What happened in that race? You guys got it
was a three lap race. You guysgot you. You made two laps,
though. You said oh, I think intime you thought you're gonna
get one. And you got to.

Unknown (01:09:16):
I got two whole laps.
And I was super stoked about it.
But in the end, we did tie itout. And I was how do I put
this. So we had three laps to doand on the third lap we were
supposed to do or lowerhelldorado. So that was kind of
the factor that was pushing meto go faster and faster because

(01:09:37):
that was my favorite section. Ireally, really wanted to do it
because in pre running, we didit and I was like, because he
told me and everyone else hadsaid beforehand, like this
course is built for a samuraiand I didn't lower helldorado
and I was like this course isbuilt for a samurai. So the
whole time I was like I reallyhope I get to make it to the

(01:09:58):
third lab and dealer hell Rado.
And I really hope there's adrone on me the whole time
because I want to see it whenit's over with. But I just
pushed as hard as I could, andmade the two laps. And we were
just stoked about the two laps.
So expecting to just do one. Itwas awesome.

Well, yeah, right. I mean, you exceeded
expectations. But yeah, I mean,in in the same breath, you fell
short of finish. But as welooked at this year, your next
your next plan was going to benationals. Right? And then blah.

Unknown (01:10:32):
Yeah. So I don't know, if everyone kind of figured out
what happened to Wild West.

So I, I knew a little bit, but actually, you
knew more than I did. So I'dlike to Yeah, if you want to
walk through because yourinformation is way better than
I've heard as a complete story.

Unknown (01:10:50):
Yeah, cuz wild west put up that post on their Facebook
group. But basically, they wereclosing their doors and never
really explained why. So I havea buddy that knows the owners
and I asked him, so he basicallytold me that the construction
company that park theirequipment, and down to the
bottom, Q and D construction,bought the property. And they're

(01:11:12):
planning on, unfortunately,tearing out the park for their
new asphalt plant. So is the endto wild west and sucks. And
every time I tell the story, Ihave to go back and forth with
whoever I'm telling it toreminiscing about how it was the
best course for spectators andit was such a fun of it. Yeah,

(01:11:35):
it sucks.

I think that's what everyone thinks. And I
think everyone's very, you know,melancholy about word nationals,
you know, and there's the shiftis changing. It's gonna be an
Oklahoma. No, you're wrong.
Oklahoma is a driver's course.
Like it is the closest thing tokayo h outside of km h and it's
in the middle of nowhereOklahoma. With not good

(01:11:57):
spectating. Not good hope. Nowin hotels aren't close. There's
a casino, but it's not reallygreat. Yeah, it's just so
optimal. But hey, we're excited.
I mean, it's still gonna be thiswe get a race versus last year.
There's so many races that were,you know, canceled.

Unknown (01:12:12):
Yeah, amen to that.

Oh, good, Lord.
Good, Lord. Okay, so So what'snext for you? You've got a rock
crawl coming up, I think iswhat, uh, what I heard out of
you.

Unknown (01:12:22):
Yep. So the very next event that I'm planning on doing
is the old school rock crawlDelta classic these days, it's
called. So back in the day, itwas called the old school rock
crawl, they did it for 10 years,that way that it changed
ownership. Now it's run by werock. And it's called the Delta
classic. And it's out in deltaUtah, on this manmade course out

(01:12:42):
in the middle of frickinnowhere, but it's just a huge
party. And I love it. I go everyyear, and that was actually the
second competition that I everentered in. And I took first
place in stock class. Oh, yeah.
And, and I doubled second place.
So I took negative 161 points.
And second place was negative 82points.

That's solid, right?

Unknown (01:13:12):
That was kind of like kicked my button, like getting
serious about competing. I waslike, well, crap, I guess I'm
kind of get it this. Let's seehow far I can take it.

Don't run from something you're good at. Ever
embrace it, run towards it.

Unknown (01:13:30):
Baptism by fire.

So I think that's a huge I love using this
word to a good segue into youknow, that you won. And we've
talked about like marketing.
Outside of this interview, wereally haven't, you know, hit on
this. But we talked about, like,you know, some things you and I
talked about, like marketingyourself, and how to put
yourself out there and get themost out things. And, and one
thing that you brought up waspodium, your podium speech, how

(01:13:52):
to get the most out of yourpodium speech and ensure you get
all your people in so you don'thave any podiums and ultra for,
but you've obviously had time tothink about what your first one
is going to be. So I'd love tohear what are your thoughts?

Unknown (01:14:09):
Yeah, so I, I haven't had like an official podium
speech yet. but on the sametoken, like when I came, this is
a really good example. When Icame into main pit this year,
Ian Johnson came over and said,Hi, and I was like, Oh, my God,
is he a Johnson? But miles cameover with his, you know, rich
microphone. Yeah. And he wastalking to me. And so moments

(01:14:31):
like that, the same kind ofthing goes through my head where
I'm like, how do I take mysponsors properly? How do I work
them into this? And one of thereally cool things that I've
picked up I don't even knowwhere I got this from, was to
write all my sponsors andpartners on my rollcage right
there where I can see it, likethe most driver's side view, I

(01:14:53):
just have all of my partnerswritten down so I don't forget
any of them logs into the car.
That was a good piece of Nicefor me, but it's probably a
podium speech.

I think that was a little nugget right there
is a genius level cheat sheet.
How good is that? Yeah.

Unknown (01:15:10):
I think I got that from Chris Raya.

Oh yeah,

Unknown (01:15:12):
I gotta say, yeah, I think I think he was a little
bit told me that but yeah, greatlittle nugget of advice, either
that or like write it on yourhand. And then another one good,
really good one that I bought,actually, is to take a piece of
like electrical tape or painterstape and put it on the dash and
then write down weathermanchannel and your team's channel

(01:15:33):
and ultra for ops. Yeah,

yeah, I definitely have those in Sharpie
in multiple places. And then youdo it long enough. You remember
them? Yeah. At some point. Ialso like along those along the
same vein of a question is, andI got this, I got this from
Wayne israelson. When gets hisleft's and rights confused. So
what you do is on the GPS on theupper left corner, it says left

(01:16:02):
in the lower left corner, itsays left, and on the right, the
upper right corner, it saysright, lower right corner. So
there's multiple places on thatside of the navigation navigator
seat that it's the right, andthen it's the left. And then
also some corresponding onesyou'd like to have on the dash
to your labels, if possible, ifyou a little label maker, but

(01:16:22):
Sharpie also gets. So whenyou're yelling out, go, right,
like because it's like your headjust sees it says right right
next to it, you know, it's rightversus Hey, go, right. No, I'm
at your other left, you know,

Unknown (01:16:34):
right. Yeah, that's funny that you bring that up,
because I thought I was the onlyperson in the world but I can't
tell my left or my right either.
Like even dragger passengers,sometimes I get super screwed
up. And it's super frustratingbecause me and my co driver will
just like, get at each other'sthroats for it like no other
driver. Other No. Other otherother driver. Oh, yeah, that's a
good piece of advice to youthough. Having a little visual

(01:16:56):
reminder definitely helps.

It's like learning how to backup a trailer
with your dad standing out theback, and he's just straight.
All the way.

Unknown (01:17:08):
All right. Well, actually, the first, the first
year, we raised me and mybrother didn't have intercom. So
we worked it out pretty well,where he would just motion and
point if I had to go in onedirection or the other
direction. Or like upshiftdownshift, he point up point
down, so I guess Simon woodworks.

Yeah, right.
Well, I mean, I think we, youknow, most of us if you haven't
experienced it, Your time'scoming is when your comms die in
the car for whatever reason,some reason, and then you start
use you start working out thehand signal like the old JT
ninja chop, you know, the theknife hand, that's, that's the
direction and keep it going asfast as possible. Then you start

(01:17:51):
making fists, like slow down inthat direction. Figure it out,
you know?

Unknown (01:18:02):
Absolutely.

Yeah. What whatever works. So you did you
did another podcast A while backwith the and I always do it
backwards. Whiskey, no wheelingwine and whiskey. We got it
wheeling. It leaves it when Iwas a whiskey wine in Wheeling
because I feel like that's thewrong order. Right? Because no,

(01:18:24):
it's not the wrong in my head isnot the wrong order. But it's
whiskey wine and we lean meansthe wheeling, it's the longer
word it goes at the back itflows like as you write off,
okay, off your tongue, butthat's so mentally that's how I
remember it, but it's not it'swheeling wine and whiskey. Chris
and Jason over there podcast,they cover a lot of off road

(01:18:45):
stuff. Those guys are animalsman, they they just chug through
some some content I wear outlike, I guess made us the
difference between havingsomeone to bounce stuff off of
and so you talked about Ian, IanJohnson actually talked to me it
came out to me two years ago,and was just like, he's a stud.
Right? I mean, he is a mediamogul on my book in the in the

(01:19:07):
in the off road genre. He's gotshows. He's got a network he's
got. He's everything. Yeah, Imean, Ian's kind of the total
package on when it comes tothat. And he says to me, he says
why you are absolutely doing itthe hardest way possible, and
you're killing it. And that'sjust a single one on one
interviews. I'm like, huh? Well,I just don't know any better.

(01:19:30):
Right? If you don't know anybetter freaking

Unknown (01:19:31):
killin it.

Chris and Jason over at wheeling wine and
whiskey. Those guys. They get tobounce stuff off of each other
and they have a great dialogueback and forth. So I listen to
them with some regularity. Idon't catch all there's just
like I'm sure they don't catchall of my neither which. But
there are certain people that asI see them come up. I don't

(01:19:55):
listen to theirs because Iintend to interview or hope to
interview them in the future. Soyou were on there. And in Randy
Sloss Randy was on there. Remiwas obviously Randy was cute
here. Randy calls me as like,Hey, man. I know, I know, like,
we have this, you know, we havethis plan. But I was like, No,
Randy, you absolutely should dothat one. And there's a reason

(01:20:19):
why because it's marketing. It'sfree marketing for you. And it's
again, pushing your message outthere carrying your story and
keeping your name out in therelevancy. There is no reason
any driver any way you should.
If someone asks you, you sayyes, and I know that's kind of
your rule. You just say yes toeverything. And then you figure
it out, right? You're notgetting paid enough. And so, you
know, Chris and Jason interviewand I was like, Okay, well,

(01:20:42):
that's one I can't listen tothis week. So you know, because
invariably begin the season Iwrite down like, like, 20 people
that I'm like, okay, being ontiming, I work my way down, and
I got to you and you have a shotearlier and, and then Randy, his
his was out there with thoseguys. I was like, man, Chris and
Jason are beat meet everybody.

Unknown (01:21:05):
do their audit. I know Jason loves doing what he does.
And Chris loves doing it, too.
And it's just fun watching thoseguys do their thing. It's fun
following along with them.

Yeah, and I think that's what you know,
Randy, thought I was, you know,be a thing. I'm like, Listen,
no, you can do, you can doKimmel, and you can do Fallon.
You could have done Letterman.
And then you could do Leno.
Like, you can drink Coca Cola.
And you can also drink Dr.
Pepper. It's you can do you cando both. In actual fact, you
should do both. Absolutely. Youshould do both. So anyone if

(01:21:38):
you're looking for another likeoff road podcast, that these
guys dabble in 4400 Ultra forevery now and then is Chris and
Jason over at the wheeling wineand whiskey podcast. You can
find them all the same placesthat you find me and and crank
them out. They are good stuff.
You had a drum? Do me thisquestion. Are they was your
question to me? Why have I notbeen on their podcast? Because I

(01:22:01):
have agreed. I have agreed. Idon't know how you guys do it.
Like I don't know, like, like,putting yourself in the
vulnerable spot to beinterviewed. I'm not very good
about that. Honestly, I'm kindof it's kind of a chickenshit
thing to say I'm kind of scaredabout it. Like I can talk. I can
talk to you about all of yourlife and interject in

(01:22:22):
intermixing some little details.
I can handle that. I don't know.
I

Unknown (01:22:28):
like listening to all the talent take episodes, we
kind of get tidbits of like whowhy it is. And so like my whole
thought process was like Hey,why don't we just get one
podcast and get the whole storyout? And I think Jason be great
person do the interview today.
He's He's just super fun tointerview with. And you sit
there and you feel like you'rejust talking to someone else,
you know, you're just tellingyour story.

So this was I have agreed, and actually I
canceled on them. And I canceledon them last December whenever
Adam shear and Matt how wheneverthere episode was, I had a
recording issue. And so what Idid that day, I got in a car and

(01:23:10):
I drove to Fort Worth five hoursto interview those two guys to
fix it. Like that was I didn'twant to skip not having an
episode. So that's what I did. Idrove up there and I call the I
called Jason, or my message himI was like, I have to bail on
you. Sorry, I definitelyapologize. And so I drove to
Fort Worth, I recorded thoseguys. And it was a total

(01:23:31):
disaster, the audio was evenworse. So we threw it away. It
was a total trip. And I made itup with him and did both of them
separately. And we got it allworked out. But that was the day
that I canceled on the wheelingwine and whiskey event. You
know, now we're a year and ahalf past that. So I should
probably now I've talked to himand we keep talking about I just

(01:23:55):
haven't I just really haven'thad the time for it. And you
know, when we finish the season,then Yeah, that'll happen. So
thanks for putting me on thespot. Amber. Yeah, I mean. All
right. Have we talked abouteverything you wanted to talk
about?

Unknown (01:24:11):
Thanks. So we're gonna look back to my notes really
fast. I really appreciate thatyou brought up the whole me
volunteering and the whole pismodunes and all that kind of stuff
thing because, like I said, it'ssomething that's really close to
me and anytime I can get someoneelse as hyped about volunteering
and giving back to thecommunity, and education and all

(01:24:32):
that kind of stuff, it reallythat's kind of a big driving
factor for me. So

I'll throw that if there are two peas I think in
life for me is passion andperspective. And if you have
passion for something, you'regoing to pursue it to the nth
degree if you have passion in inyour relationships with your
spouse or boyfriend, girlfriend,whatever if you have passion in
your job being see if you havepassion in race your passion and

(01:25:00):
your hobby, you're going to giveit your 110% if you don't have
passion for it, you're gonna,you're gonna phone it in. And
then within that you needperspective. And for me
perspective, I lose perspectivewith some regularity. You know,
you get your burned out likethis show I do I actually get
burned out, you know, when youhave a full time job plus kids

(01:25:23):
and plus these things, like,see, you know, you're like, Oh,
I mean, is it? You know, what amI you know, what am I
accomplishing? You know, I'vetaken what was a hobby, and it
still is a hobby, I'veabsolutely hobby and made it
something of a job. And I we'reall guilty of doing that, like
every one of us, everyone that'severy single person listens is
guilty of taking something thatwas fun and making it not fun.

Unknown (01:25:46):
Right, yeah. And then that's kind of where it was with
fabrication when I got the shotwith Randy was that I had hit a
wall and I wasn't learninganymore. And so I knew that I
wanted to get back into offroading and the automotive
industry and all that stuff. Andso when I had the opportunity to
get into a shop that worked onultra powered cars, like all my

(01:26:07):
worlds combined and stuff justworked out. So hopefully I don't
burn myself out on this one. ButI am definitely rekindling my
enthusiasm for fabrication withthis new job.

Do you see cutting your teeth on this whole
thing by maybe extending yourlearning into building your own
bomber? Car?

Unknown (01:26:31):
That's definitely something that's come up. Like,
so what are we gonna see abomber with the samurai head?
And my answer is, I don't know.
Because like I said, I like togo into things with zero
expectations. So I guess cuttingmy teeth right now and the whole
starting point is just to learnas much as I can and take baby
steps. I like it. It'd be reallycool to get into a bomber. I'm

(01:26:54):
not gonna lie. I'm gonna driveon yet. I haven't even driven
the trail bomber yet. Which iskind of sad, but I have made
ready. Roll it. Oh, wait, Ididn't drive the trail bomber.
Nevermind, I take that back. Butyou know, keep it in the back
your mind.

Yeah, there you go. I can see you saying hey,
Randy. I need to take that thisweekend out to moon rocks for
marketing. Right You need to getthe name out there. You need
that? Yeah, exactly.

Unknown (01:27:24):
Like little flash my eyelashes. I'm doing a little
eye flutter. Please. Please letme take the daughter out.

Yeah, exactly.
And so well I found that to bereally cool out of Randy that
you know he is building a carfor Krista. You know, that was a
that's that's a funnyconversation

Unknown (01:27:43):
the other day she said she's been waiting 20 years for
that sucker.

We'll get the story out of Randy in the
future. All right. So as we'reas we're wrapping up, we're
coming to a close top threesongs that are amber Turner
right now, this day, this sliceof life right now, how three
songs go.

Unknown (01:28:02):
I couldn't think of two more songs. But the one song
that I always come back to,especially when it comes to
racing and everyone's gonna geta kick out of this is a loser by
Beck movie. Kill me Yeah, thatone. I love playing that song.

(01:28:22):
Like if I do have a piano in mycar, but if I could play that
song over the PA when I leave,start finish take my whole life.
Like I said, Go into it withzero expectations.

Oh, well, I mean, there you go that that
leaves you can only impressyourself. sky's the limit there.
So no, you don't have to morelike that's it. You're just
you're gonna limit yourself toone.

Unknown (01:28:46):
I you know what I tried. I went through my
playlist and like everything Ihave in my playlist is super
lame. So Steiner, right,

stop saying no to your playlist say yes. All
right, well, Amber. Wow. I'msuper impressed with you as a
human. I'm super impressed withyou is someone who was just
challenging the norms. You know,just taking a samurai and going
and racing Kayla H. Most peoplewould say you need your head
examined. I see a method to yourmadness. But man, I'm so

(01:29:21):
grateful that you came on I'm sograteful that you were you know
this, this episode 46 and I lookforward to what this next year
has in store for you at a bomberfab.

Unknown (01:29:30):
Okay, thank you. I'm looking forward to everything in
the future. Honestly, I neverever thought that any of this
would get taken this far. Buthere we are. And I want to come
and take

you just don't say no, that's it. That's that.
I think that's been a continuingtheme in almost every decision
we talked about of yoursthroughout this is you just
didn't say no. You just pushedfor it and said go and people
got on board behind you.

Unknown (01:29:56):
Yeah, that's That's powerful. Yes. Thank you.

Well, Amber, thank you for coming on. And on
that note, we're out.

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