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July 21, 2025 76 mins

Fr. Sam and Matt continue their conversation on St. Therese of Lisieux from last week, diving into some of the fundamentals of prayer - consolation and desolation. Fr. Sam draws the distinction between the two categories and then their subcategories (spiritual vs. non-spiritual consolation/desolation). He uses the teachings of St. Ignatius of Loyola as the launching pad for this discussion. 

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