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Ever wondered if you should be hitting the gym with a laser focus on the scale, or simply embracing a joyful journey of movement? Unlock the secrets to aligning your fitness goals with your lifestyle preferences in the latest episode of Tea with Tina. I'll be sharing insights into the contrasting paths of fitness for fat loss versus fitness for fun, and how setting clear expectations can be the game-changer in your journey. Discover how one client recalibrated her approach to fitness and found success, ensuring her goals matched her actions. Whether you're a goal-driven individual or someone who just wants to inject a little more fun and health into your routine, there's something here for every listener.
We also venture into the realm of flexible weight maintenance, advocating for a more forgiving approach to your body's natural fluctuations. By embracing a weight range, you learn to balance life's indulgences with discipline, leading to a more sustainable and enjoyable lifestyle. I'll share practical strategies for managing your weight that allow for both pleasure and confidence, helping you to feel at ease in your own skin. So, grab your favorite beverage and settle in as we explore these dynamic strategies that promise to offer you a healthier, happier approach to fitness and weight management.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Tea with Tina, your favorite podcast
, where we talk all thingshealth, fitness, lifestyle, and
maybe a little bit of tea getsspilled.
We chat all about this in asuper casual environment, so
grab your beverage of choice,sit back, relax and enjoy.
(00:22):
Relax and enjoy.
Hello friends, popping in foranother episode of the Tea with
Tina podcast.
Thank you so much for beinghere and, if you haven't already
, make sure that you arefollowing this podcast,
subscribing wherever you'relistening, so you never miss
another episode again.
I love having you here and ifyou ever want to share a message
(00:44):
with me maybe share a podcastepisode idea just say hi, you
love the show.
Whatever.
You can actually send me apersonal message, some fan mail
in the show notes there's a linkto that.
I get those messages directly,so feel free to do that.
But today I wanted to talkabout fitness for fat loss
versus fitness for fun, and howto find the right balance and
(01:05):
and the reality behind it, andI've definitely talked about
this concept before, but I thinkit needs to be drilled in your
little brains.
We need to be told certainthings more than once, most
things more than once, so let'sbreak it down here fitness for
fat loss versus fitness for fun.
Also, before we start, I shouldsay that I'm sitting in my car
(01:25):
right now.
This is the life of a trainer.
I am in between clients.
I had some clients this morningin a class and I have a client
in the afternoon and there's notenough time for me to go home,
or it's not really worth it forme to go home, so I'm just like
doing some computer work.
The gym's kind of loud, so I'msitting in my car.
It's also cold in the gym andit's warmer out here.
So here we are Progress, notperfection, right.
(01:49):
But so fitness for fat loss,we're talking about fat loss
versus for fun, and I would saymore lifestyle health, right,
we'll categorize fun andlifestyle health as the same
thing Fat loss would be.
You have a specific goal, okay,you're like I need to lose 15
pounds.
(02:09):
I need to lose 20 pounds, Iwant to fit into this size.
I'm trying to really get thisweight off of me.
You know, maybe yourcholesterol is too high or you
have high blood pressure oryou're just, you know,
uncomfortable in your body.
Right, it's a very specificgoal and specific goals require
specific action.
When fitness is fun, you know,or more lifestyle, you're more
(02:32):
making generalized habits andyou're still going to see
results.
But it's not going to be ascalculated.
And I think where people gowrong a lot of the time is that
their expectations get skewed.
They don't really realize a lotof people want a specific
outcome um, you know, like it'dbe nice to have, but they don't
realize how much work goes intogetting that.
(02:54):
Um, or maybe they're doing likelifestyle, fun type habits,
expect a specific outcome, right.
So that's probably the numberone thing that I see is wrong,
and I said, neither one of theseis actually a bad choice, like
the fact that you're moving andtrying to be better and improve
your diet is good.
Just make sure you don't getfrustrated because you're not
(03:17):
putting in the right amount ofwork, right.
So, going back to the fitnessfor fat loss and weight loss and
having a specific goal, I wassaying that it needs specific
results, right, you needspecific actions to get specific
results, and what that means isyou're going to have to tighten
some things up.
(03:37):
If you want to lose, uh, xamount of pounds, you better
make sure you're measuring it.
You're not just going to kindof eat whatever you want.
Um, you know, work out when youcan and then you better make
sure you're measuring it.
You're not just going to kindof eat whatever you want.
You know, work out when you canand then you know, step on the
scale and be like, well, whyisn't the scale going down?
You know, because I couldn'ttell you your calories may be
all over the place.
You could have worked out twodays, one week, three days, one
week.
You know, you might not knowwhat you're doing, you don't
(03:59):
have a program and then youcan't expect to lose weight.
Now I will say some people luckout at first.
If you have some weight to loseand like you don't work out at
all, your diet's terrible.
If you make healthy switches,like if you just go from soda to
diet, soda and water and youstart walking and you like sit
on your butt all day, yeahyou're gonna see results like
(04:20):
pretty quickly because thosesimple changes can bring upon
drastic results.
But at a point you're going toplateau because what you're
doing is no longer working.
Your body has adapted.
Not saying you should stopdoing those things, but you need
to fine tune those things.
I actually just had this happenwith a client of mine.
She was a client of mine formany months almost years I
(04:41):
believe and we trained togetherin person and she did online and
um, she was great.
She loves working out.
She kills her workouts.
Um, nutrition, she struggledwith a little bit more but but
she was really tracking hermacros and she lost a lot of
weight.
Um, she came back to me she hadgained some weight back and she
kind of was doing everythingright, but it wasn't super
(05:02):
dialed in.
And she hired me again for acouple months and we started
dialing in her goals and itreally wasn't these crazy
changes, it was just making sureshe actually hit her calorie
goal and she wasn't going over200 here and going over a day or
two on the weekend.
You know really just zoning inum, and that was enough to see
the weight come off again, right.
So it's very calculated changesto get these results.
(05:25):
So that's what I want you tothink about is, if you have a
very specific goal, you have atimeline, you want these results
you're going to have to track.
You're going to have to trackyour measurements.
You know weight, take progresspictures.
You're going to have to followa structured program and make
sure you're following itproperly.
I would recommend trackingcalories and macros.
You could not maybe and seeresults slower, but unless you
(05:49):
know what's going into your body, especially with food nowadays,
you don't.
You just don't know.
Unfortunately, like you don'tknow, a meal out is going to be
at least a thousand to 1500calories, even if it looks
healthy.
It's just sad.
So you have to know what is inthe food you're eating, making
sure you're getting enoughprotein to support your goals,
and really the only way to dothat would be through tracking.
(06:10):
That allows you to be flexibleenough.
Let me say you could do a dietthat's very restrictive, like
whole 30 or something like that,but then you know you're never
allowed to eat any fun foods andthen you're gonna go crazy and
then you're not gonna be ableable to stick to it and then
you're just gonna crash diet andgain all the weight back.
So you know, tracking the foodwhere you can fit ice cream into
your goals, as long as youaccount for it, I think is
(06:32):
probably the best method longterm.
That's just me.
So you know that's what Irecommend.
If that sounds overwhelming,that's okay.
Um, I would just recommendtrying it.
You, you know tracking andworking out it's like a skill.
You know you might suck at itat first.
I always used to have peoplewho went into the gym that
they're like, well, I don't knowwhat to do.
And I'm like nobody in herecame in knowing what to do.
(06:54):
Everybody started at square one.
Nobody knew what a machine was,a freeway, and they had to
learn right.
And we fall down and we getback up, and it's the same thing
with tracking your food workingout.
It's a journey and you'llfigure it out.
So give yourself some grace,okay.
But but that would be, you know,fitness for fat loss now,
fitness for fun and everydaywellness is more generalized,
(07:18):
right, and this is kind of likethe feel good kind of fitness
that you see preached and again,it's not wrong.
I believe if everybody did thismore, we'd be in a much better
place health wise.
You know it's the moregeneralized stuff of hey, make
sure you're getting veggiesevery day and eating fruit, make
sure you're drinking enoughwater, make sure you're getting
(07:38):
in daily movement and stretching.
Are you doing mindset stuff?
Are you de-stressing, all thosethings?
But it's more generalized,right.
We don't really have a set goal.
We're not saying, hey, you needto walk X amount of steps a day
.
We're just saying move more,you know, include more nutrient
dense foods.
(07:58):
You could be eating healthy andstill not be in a calorie
deficit to lose weight right,but your body's going to have,
you know, it's not going goingto be deficient in anything.
You're going to feel a lotbetter.
You're going to feel energized,but we don't know if the food
amount is right for you to loseweight or the amount that you're
working out is right.
Again, it's just moregeneralized.
Go with the flow and for thatyou're going to have a more
enjoyable time.
You're doing it more for fun,the health benefits but you're
(08:22):
not so much stressed about yourphysique.
You don't care necessarily ifyou gain a couple pounds or
you're a little bit fluffier,but your body needed it.
So there's a nuance to it.
Right, it's a little bitdifferent.
Or people who are maybe theyjust need to make some health
improvements, but they're notlooking to be bodybuilders or
have a certain physique this isalso a great option.
Now, how do you find thatbalance, though, right?
(08:44):
No-transcript.
(09:12):
Crazy stressful phase in yourlife?
Um, maybe a family memberpassed away.
Maybe you're super busy at work.
Um, maybe I don't even knowthere was a lady who almost just
crashed into my car.
That's why I like stopped.
She did not look very stabledriving, but anyways, you know,
(09:33):
maybe there's just a reallydemanding time in your life and
the thought of trying to evenlike be super calculated with
your goals is crazy.
The holidays is another greattime.
You're meeting up with family,you're eating all this good food
, but it's you know, know, youstill don't want to like fall
off the cliff completely andjust give up on working out
nutrition and all the progressyou've worked so hard for.
So you're gonna do more funfitness, right, you're not gonna
(09:55):
have a super regimented workoutprogram, but you're still gonna
move your body, um, you know,you're still gonna be eating
some good meals, good food, uh,with the thanksgiving dinners
and.
But you're going to still bemindful, but you're not really
like trying to lose weight andgo hard, right.
(10:15):
So that would be a time formore of the fun fitness.
Or maybe there's just a timeyou're trying to chill out,
relax and you don't want to beas calculated.
That's fine.
I would say 70 to 80% of yourtime is going to be this,
especially once you kind ofreach your goal, your target
goal, um, and you're more so inmaintenance.
That that's where you're goingto live.
(10:36):
That's where you should liveand, unfortunately, too many of
us spend most of our life inthis chronic dieting cycle and
that's a podcast for a whole,nother time.
But the chronic dieting cycleis you just get stuck and you
feel like you can't lose weightand because you're dieting so
severely, it actually preventsyou from seeing progress.
So it's this crazy, terriblecycle when you feel like garbage
(10:57):
and you don't know how to getout of it.
But properly doing things I'mspeaking from that sense will
allow you to get the resultsthat you want, right?
So if we're living inmaintenance, that's 70 to 80% of
the time.
The other time that we're moreof that focused fitness, a
specific goal.
This would be when you're like,okay, the beach is coming up.
Um, I'm going to go on a minicut for the next six to eight
(11:19):
weeks.
I'm going to shed a couplepounds, tighten up to feel good
about myself.
So I'm going to dial it in alittle bit.
I'm going to start tracking mymacros every single day, I'm
going to be adding some morecardio and I'm really going to
be focused on my lifts, right?
So that's when you can dial itup, um, you know, maybe it's
just a specific occasion thatyou're trying to diet down for
um, or you're just trying tokind of tighten things up to
(11:39):
have a better baseline.
You're trying to get moreserious.
But again, this shouldn't be.
This is going to be more than20 to 30 or 40% of your year
Honestly, probably 20 to 30%.
You from a healthy body.
You shouldn't really be cuttingmore than, honestly, three to
six months max at a time.
It should more so be like sixto 12 weeks.
(12:01):
Even bodybuilders do this Mostof the time.
Bodybuilders spend a lot oftheir time building a body, um,
gaining muscle and fat and um.
Then when it's time to actuallycut it's.
I've never really seen morethan 18 weeks, maybe 24 weeks,
which is six months for liketying in, going on a cut, and
that's even using their extrememethods and stuff to to like
(12:23):
show their physique underneaththat they've been working so
hard for.
So just something to keep inmind Know that life goes in ebbs
and flows and if you'resomebody that's confused and you
just feel like you've beenchronic dieting, please reach
out to me.
Please shoot me a message.
I can definitely help you.
We can get your body to abetter place so it can diet,
where it doesn't take foreverand you can actually lose weight
(12:45):
and see progress.
But then you can also go back toeating more and maintain and
love your life and live yourlife.
And you can live within thatlike plus or minus five to ten
pounds, like, oh, I put thatextra five pounds on because
it's winter time, and then I cando a little bit of a cut,
tighten things up to to, youknow, go back to the weight that
I feel best at for beach season, right, um, that's how it
should be right, that's how weshould be, and I teach you the
(13:09):
methods to do that.
Okay, but I hope you enjoyedthis episode, guys.
Thanks for tuning in and I willcatch you in the next one.
Bye.
Welcome to the Tea with Tina, your favorite podcast
, where we talk all thingshealth, fitness, lifestyle, and
maybe a little bit of tea getsspilled.
We chat all about this in asuper casual environment, so
grab your beverage of choice,sit back, relax and enjoy.
(00:22):
Relax and enjoy.
Hello friends, popping in foranother episode of the Tea with
Tina podcast.
Thank you so much for beinghere and, if you haven't already
, make sure that you arefollowing this podcast,
subscribing wherever you'relistening, so you never miss
another episode again.
I love having you here and ifyou ever want to share a message
(00:44):
with me maybe share a podcastepisode idea just say hi, you
love the show.
Whatever.
You can actually send me apersonal message, some fan mail
in the show notes there's a linkto that.
I get those messages directly,so feel free to do that.
But today I wanted to talkabout fitness for fat loss
versus fitness for fun, and howto find the right balance and
(01:05):
and the reality behind it, andI've definitely talked about
this concept before, but I thinkit needs to be drilled in your
little brains.
We need to be told certainthings more than once, most
things more than once, so let'sbreak it down here fitness for
fat loss versus fitness for fun.
Also, before we start, I shouldsay that I'm sitting in my car
(01:25):
right now.
This is the life of a trainer.
I am in between clients.
I had some clients this morningin a class and I have a client
in the afternoon and there's notenough time for me to go home,
or it's not really worth it forme to go home, so I'm just like
doing some computer work.
The gym's kind of loud, so I'msitting in my car.
It's also cold in the gym andit's warmer out here.
So here we are Progress, notperfection, right.
(01:49):
But so fitness for fat loss,we're talking about fat loss
versus for fun, and I would saymore lifestyle health, right,
we'll categorize fun andlifestyle health as the same
thing Fat loss would be.
You have a specific goal, okay,you're like I need to lose 15
pounds.
(02:09):
I need to lose 20 pounds, Iwant to fit into this size.
I'm trying to really get thisweight off of me.
You know, maybe yourcholesterol is too high or you
have high blood pressure oryou're just, you know,
uncomfortable in your body.
Right, it's a very specificgoal and specific goals require
specific action.
When fitness is fun, you know,or more lifestyle, you're more
(02:32):
making generalized habits andyou're still going to see
results.
But it's not going to be ascalculated.
And I think where people gowrong a lot of the time is that
their expectations get skewed.
They don't really realize a lotof people want a specific
outcome um, you know, like it'dbe nice to have, but they don't
realize how much work goes intogetting that.
(02:54):
Um, or maybe they're doing likelifestyle, fun type habits,
expect a specific outcome, right.
So that's probably the numberone thing that I see is wrong,
and I said, neither one of theseis actually a bad choice, like
the fact that you're moving andtrying to be better and improve
your diet is good.
Just make sure you don't getfrustrated because you're not
(03:17):
putting in the right amount ofwork, right.
So, going back to the fitnessfor fat loss and weight loss and
having a specific goal, I wassaying that it needs specific
results, right, you needspecific actions to get specific
results, and what that means isyou're going to have to tighten
some things up.
(03:37):
If you want to lose, uh, xamount of pounds, you better
make sure you're measuring it.
You're not just going to kindof eat whatever you want.
Um, you know, work out when youcan and then you better make
sure you're measuring it.
You're not just going to kindof eat whatever you want.
You know, work out when you canand then you know, step on the
scale and be like, well, whyisn't the scale going down?
You know, because I couldn'ttell you your calories may be
all over the place.
You could have worked out twodays, one week, three days, one
week.
You know, you might not knowwhat you're doing, you don't
(03:59):
have a program and then youcan't expect to lose weight.
Now I will say some people luckout at first.
If you have some weight to loseand like you don't work out at
all, your diet's terrible.
If you make healthy switches,like if you just go from soda to
diet, soda and water and youstart walking and you like sit
on your butt all day, yeahyou're gonna see results like
(04:20):
pretty quickly because thosesimple changes can bring upon
drastic results.
But at a point you're going toplateau because what you're
doing is no longer working.
Your body has adapted.
Not saying you should stopdoing those things, but you need
to fine tune those things.
I actually just had this happenwith a client of mine.
She was a client of mine formany months almost years I
(04:41):
believe and we trained togetherin person and she did online and
um, she was great.
She loves working out.
She kills her workouts.
Um, nutrition, she struggledwith a little bit more but but
she was really tracking hermacros and she lost a lot of
weight.
Um, she came back to me she hadgained some weight back and she
kind of was doing everythingright, but it wasn't super
(05:02):
dialed in.
And she hired me again for acouple months and we started
dialing in her goals and itreally wasn't these crazy
changes, it was just making sureshe actually hit her calorie
goal and she wasn't going over200 here and going over a day or
two on the weekend.
You know really just zoning inum, and that was enough to see
the weight come off again, right.
So it's very calculated changesto get these results.
(05:25):
So that's what I want you tothink about is, if you have a
very specific goal, you have atimeline, you want these results
you're going to have to track.
You're going to have to trackyour measurements.
You know weight, take progresspictures.
You're going to have to followa structured program and make
sure you're following itproperly.
I would recommend trackingcalories and macros.
You could not maybe and seeresults slower, but unless you
(05:49):
know what's going into your body, especially with food nowadays,
you don't.
You just don't know.
Unfortunately, like you don'tknow, a meal out is going to be
at least a thousand to 1500calories, even if it looks
healthy.
It's just sad.
So you have to know what is inthe food you're eating, making
sure you're getting enoughprotein to support your goals,
and really the only way to dothat would be through tracking.
(06:10):
That allows you to be flexibleenough.
Let me say you could do a dietthat's very restrictive, like
whole 30 or something like that,but then you know you're never
allowed to eat any fun foods andthen you're gonna go crazy and
then you're not gonna be ableable to stick to it and then
you're just gonna crash diet andgain all the weight back.
So you know, tracking the foodwhere you can fit ice cream into
your goals, as long as youaccount for it, I think is
(06:32):
probably the best method longterm.
That's just me.
So you know that's what Irecommend.
If that sounds overwhelming,that's okay.
Um, I would just recommendtrying it.
You, you know tracking andworking out it's like a skill.
You know you might suck at itat first.
I always used to have peoplewho went into the gym that
they're like, well, I don't knowwhat to do.
And I'm like nobody in herecame in knowing what to do.
(06:54):
Everybody started at square one.
Nobody knew what a machine was,a freeway, and they had to
learn right.
And we fall down and we getback up, and it's the same thing
with tracking your food workingout.
It's a journey and you'llfigure it out.
So give yourself some grace,okay.
But but that would be, you know,fitness for fat loss now,
fitness for fun and everydaywellness is more generalized,
(07:18):
right, and this is kind of likethe feel good kind of fitness
that you see preached and again,it's not wrong.
I believe if everybody did thismore, we'd be in a much better
place health wise.
You know it's the moregeneralized stuff of hey, make
sure you're getting veggiesevery day and eating fruit, make
sure you're drinking enoughwater, make sure you're getting
(07:38):
in daily movement and stretching.
Are you doing mindset stuff?
Are you de-stressing, all thosethings?
But it's more generalized,right.
We don't really have a set goal.
We're not saying, hey, you needto walk X amount of steps a day
.
We're just saying move more,you know, include more nutrient
dense foods.
(07:58):
You could be eating healthy andstill not be in a calorie
deficit to lose weight right,but your body's going to have,
you know, it's not going goingto be deficient in anything.
You're going to feel a lotbetter.
You're going to feel energized,but we don't know if the food
amount is right for you to loseweight or the amount that you're
working out is right.
Again, it's just moregeneralized.
Go with the flow and for thatyou're going to have a more
enjoyable time.
You're doing it more for fun,the health benefits but you're
(08:22):
not so much stressed about yourphysique.
You don't care necessarily ifyou gain a couple pounds or
you're a little bit fluffier,but your body needed it.
So there's a nuance to it.
Right, it's a little bitdifferent.
Or people who are maybe theyjust need to make some health
improvements, but they're notlooking to be bodybuilders or
have a certain physique this isalso a great option.
Now, how do you find thatbalance, though, right?
(08:44):
No-transcript.
(09:12):
Crazy stressful phase in yourlife?
Um, maybe a family memberpassed away.
Maybe you're super busy at work.
Um, maybe I don't even knowthere was a lady who almost just
crashed into my car.
That's why I like stopped.
She did not look very stabledriving, but anyways, you know,
(09:33):
maybe there's just a reallydemanding time in your life and
the thought of trying to evenlike be super calculated with
your goals is crazy.
The holidays is another greattime.
You're meeting up with family,you're eating all this good food
, but it's you know, know, youstill don't want to like fall
off the cliff completely andjust give up on working out
nutrition and all the progressyou've worked so hard for.
So you're gonna do more funfitness, right, you're not gonna
(09:55):
have a super regimented workoutprogram, but you're still gonna
move your body, um, you know,you're still gonna be eating
some good meals, good food, uh,with the thanksgiving dinners
and.
But you're going to still bemindful, but you're not really
like trying to lose weight andgo hard, right.
(10:15):
So that would be a time formore of the fun fitness.
Or maybe there's just a timeyou're trying to chill out,
relax and you don't want to beas calculated.
That's fine.
I would say 70 to 80% of yourtime is going to be this,
especially once you kind ofreach your goal, your target
goal, um, and you're more so inmaintenance.
That that's where you're goingto live.
(10:36):
That's where you should liveand, unfortunately, too many of
us spend most of our life inthis chronic dieting cycle and
that's a podcast for a whole,nother time.
But the chronic dieting cycleis you just get stuck and you
feel like you can't lose weightand because you're dieting so
severely, it actually preventsyou from seeing progress.
So it's this crazy, terriblecycle when you feel like garbage
(10:57):
and you don't know how to getout of it.
But properly doing things I'mspeaking from that sense will
allow you to get the resultsthat you want, right?
So if we're living inmaintenance, that's 70 to 80% of
the time.
The other time that we're moreof that focused fitness, a
specific goal.
This would be when you're like,okay, the beach is coming up.
Um, I'm going to go on a minicut for the next six to eight
(11:19):
weeks.
I'm going to shed a couplepounds, tighten up to feel good
about myself.
So I'm going to dial it in alittle bit.
I'm going to start tracking mymacros every single day, I'm
going to be adding some morecardio and I'm really going to
be focused on my lifts, right?
So that's when you can dial itup, um, you know, maybe it's
just a specific occasion thatyou're trying to diet down for
um, or you're just trying tokind of tighten things up to
(11:39):
have a better baseline.
You're trying to get moreserious.
But again, this shouldn't be.
This is going to be more than20 to 30 or 40% of your year
Honestly, probably 20 to 30%.
You from a healthy body.
You shouldn't really be cuttingmore than, honestly, three to
six months max at a time.
It should more so be like sixto 12 weeks.
(12:01):
Even bodybuilders do this Mostof the time.
Bodybuilders spend a lot oftheir time building a body, um,
gaining muscle and fat and um.
Then when it's time to actuallycut it's.
I've never really seen morethan 18 weeks, maybe 24 weeks,
which is six months for liketying in, going on a cut, and
that's even using their extrememethods and stuff to to like
(12:23):
show their physique underneaththat they've been working so
hard for.
So just something to keep inmind Know that life goes in ebbs
and flows and if you'resomebody that's confused and you
just feel like you've beenchronic dieting, please reach
out to me.
Please shoot me a message.
I can definitely help you.
We can get your body to abetter place so it can diet,
where it doesn't take foreverand you can actually lose weight
(12:45):
and see progress.
But then you can also go back toeating more and maintain and
love your life and live yourlife.
And you can live within thatlike plus or minus five to ten
pounds, like, oh, I put thatextra five pounds on because
it's winter time, and then I cando a little bit of a cut,
tighten things up to to, youknow, go back to the weight that
I feel best at for beach season, right, um, that's how it
should be right, that's how weshould be, and I teach you the
(13:09):
methods to do that.
Okay, but I hope you enjoyedthis episode, guys.
Thanks for tuning in and I willcatch you in the next one.
Bye.
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