Udhay Durai, Executive Director of Data Platform and Engineering at Evolus, joins the show to unpack his journey from consulting to leading enterprise data teams. He shares how the high-pressure, quick-delivery mindset from consulting can be a secret weapon in a corporate setting, and what changes when you shift from delivering outputs to owning long-term outcomes. From navigating different types of pressure to building sustainable systems that scale, Udhay offers candid insights for anyone considering a similar transition.
Key Takeaways
• The consulting mindset of speed and adaptability can be a major advantage in enterprise roles when paired with long-term thinking
• Pressure exists in both consulting and full-time roles, but the nature of that pressure—and how you manage it—differs greatly
• Consultants focus on outputs, while enterprise leaders are measured on outcomes that stand the test of time
• Generalist experience across domains can complement deep subject matter experts in a corporate team
• Bringing incremental change and a “flywheel” approach from consulting can accelerate enterprise delivery without sacrificing reliability
Timestamped Highlights
01:34 — Why quick wins and stakeholder empathy are essential in consulting
03:28 — How the pressure changes when you own the platform instead of just delivering a project
05:32 — Outputs vs outcomes and why the shift matters in enterprise leadership
09:48 — Turning generalist consulting experience into an asset in a full-time role
11:43 — The biggest mindset and skill gaps to address when making the switch
13:42 — Adapting consulting habits for long-term success in product companies
Quote of the Episode
“Pressure is there in both consulting and enterprise. The difference is in consulting you deliver outputs—enterprise leaders deliver outcomes.”
Resources Mentioned
Udhay Durai on LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/udhay-durai
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