Ted Lasso | S2 Ep12 Part3 "Inverting the Pyramid of Success" - The Tedcast - A Deep Dive Podcast About The Bear

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
Welcome to our Ted Lasso talk, the Tedcast.
Welcome all Greyhound fans,welcome all you sinners from the
dog track and all the AFCRichmond fans around the world.
It's the Lasso way around theseparts with Coach, coach and
Boss, without further ado, coachCastleton.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay, welcome back, beautiful people.
Today we're talking about TedLasso, season 2, episode 12,
inverting the Pyramid of Success.
This is Part 3 of our ongoingconversation.
I am your host, coach Castleton, and with me, as always, is
Coach Bishop.
What's up?

Speaker 3 (00:59):
I just thought I'd get everybody's attention.
It's still what's up.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
It just doesn't get old.
Just still Unbelievable.
Just never get everybody'sattention.
It's still.
It just doesn't get old,unbelievable, never get tired of
it.
With us is our boss, emilyChambers.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
In case Castleton doesn't mention it, we talked
before.
We just started this recordingfor 45 straight minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
So if you think the episodes are long, However much
you think we talk too much.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah , yeah, that's wow, we covered a
lot of ground.
We covered a lot of ground.
We really did.
We were talking about reallyimportant things, not
necessarily for publicconsumption, but yeah, no, we
were really really excited aboutsome of the stuff in women's
basketball last week and DonStaley and just tremendous.

(01:46):
You know, it's just amazing tobe part of Coach.
What were the numbers on thatfor that national championship,
women's NCAA?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Now that I said it out loud, I believe it was 18.9
million viewers for thechampionship game.
It was the biggest audience foran ESPN basketball game in like
five years.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, it's an exciting time to be alive.
A lot of people say I was bornat the wrong time, but this is a
great time to be alive.
People as hard as it is outthere generally you're never too
far from a bathroom.
You know it's a piece mostpeople get to.

(02:30):
You know, like that's, that's anice feeling to go when you
have to go, uh, you, you I'malways near a bathroom, but I'm
a gross person, so well, listen,when we were growing up, that
you would say, oh man, you gottaput a cassette deck in.
or then, you know, fight betweenvhs and beta.
Now they would say, someday you, someday, man, you got to put a
cassette deck in.
Or then, you know, fightbetween VHS and beta.
Now they would say, someday,you, someday, you'll just like,
you'll be in your house, you canwatch anything like anything.

(02:51):
You know, it's like, it's likejetpack, it's like a promise of
a jetpack.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
We were promised jetpacks, yes we were promised
and then we didn't get jetpacks.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
And again very, very quick interjection where I
complain yes, we are supposed tohave anything we want on demand
anytime.
American Gods still can't findseason two.
Still pissed about it.
The hard copies I don't why Ihave a dvd anymore.
It makes no sense to own a dvd,it's.
It's like, you know, you can goon craigslist and just see
people completely abandoningevery dvd there.

(03:33):
But there are certain products,there are certain shows where
I'm like that it just vanishes.
You're like, okay, if this is aintegral show to our family or
if this is something reallyfundamental to something I love
or something that is meaningfulto me.
I've now started to just say,you know what, if I see it, I
won't necessarily go out of myway, but I'll try to find

(03:57):
something.
Childhood, um, uh, there wasthis um sort of sort of this is
a woman that I was likeinterested in years ago and uh,
it was just sort of a flirtationkind of thing and and I had
casually mentioned that Icouldn't get this one um

(04:20):
japanese film, um, I justcouldn't find it anywhere.
This is years ago, this is,this is during the blockbuster
era, and, um, she somehow foundit in Japan and I'd like just as
like a nice thing to do and Iwas like, oh my God, I still
have it on VHS, but, like youcan't get it on DVD, it doesn't,
it doesn't exist in the world,it doesn't exist in the world.

(04:41):
And so it's like this is anamazing film, um, so, anyway, I
love, uh, I love, having thecomfort of of you know, being
able to keep track of, like TedLasso, is something for sure
that I would say, okay, I'mgoing to get some version of a
hard copy of it, because, if itgoes, I didn't think, um,
there's a show called Future manthat I love.

(05:03):
Season one of Future manAbsolutely love it, quoted all
the time.
I think it's phenomenal.
It was one of those where it hadno business being any good and
then it just knocks your socksoff, and sometimes those are
even better.
There was a video game myfriends and I stumbled on called
Ghost Recon Wildlands and we'relike this probably sucks.
And then we spent 100 hours or200 hours.

(05:25):
You know what I mean.
We're like, oh my God, this isthe best $20 we've ever spent.
You're like, how much enjoymentdid I get out of this?
So sometimes, when somethingoutjumps the coverage, you go.
It has even that much morevalue.
And it was a Hulu product or FXthrough Hulu, and then Hulu
took it off the air and you go,wait a second, it's like you

(05:46):
made it Like.
This is something.
Why would you ever take thisoff?

Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's not like.
You don't have the rightsanymore, it's yours.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, it just vanished.
And then there's subreddits anddifferent threads that I'm part
of, and people are losing theirminds, and so then the price of
Future man on DVD shot up tolike $100.
He's like I don't know whenit's coming back, Anyway.
So the long-winded way ofsaying Ted Lasso Buy.

(06:18):
Ted.
Lasso.
Yes, Ted Lasso.
Ted Lasso is worth owning.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Do not allow Ted Lasso to go the way of Punky
Brewster the cartoon, becauseyou will try to reference it and
people won't remember it andthey won't believe that that was
a thing that happened.
No, no it existed.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
It did exist Because of my age.
Interestingly, I was just youngenough to do regular Punky
Brewster, but too old once thecartoon happened.
So I was aware of it, but Ididn't really watch it.
I want to say it was a Saturdaymorning cartoon, and by that
point I was probably getting outof the house to go do whatever

(06:55):
it was I was about to go do.
But I do remember that being areal thing.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Nope, I was parking my ass right in front of the TV.
Yeah, she had a magical aliengopher type thing named Glommer,
who came over into our worldthrough a rainbow and then
stayed with Punky Brewster forthe rest of the TV show.
Those are all true things.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, I was a little old for Punky Brewster.
I think I just missed it.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Nope, it's stuck in my brain and I tell people about
it and they think I'm a liarand I'm but um, nope, stuck in
my brain and I tell people aboutit, they think I'm a liar and
I'm not for that reason correct.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
If I'm gonna lie, you'll know it, because I will
call it out and tell you thatI'm lying, and then what I'll do
is tell you I'll be kissing youlater, at the end, when I have
a few more drinks.
How's that, boss?
Is that accurate?

Speaker 4 (07:42):
It depends on what I was lying about.
A lot of the times I'm notgoing to tell you if I were
lying how you need to.
Sometimes you tell them you'relying and then they think that
they know your tell, but theydon't know your tell because
that's the tell that you weregiving them so that they would.
It's a false tell, false tell.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh wow, wow man.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Jesus.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Man Jesus, okay, I've got a niece who is willfully
deceptive in a fun way.
And I'm trying to train her inthe best ways of deception in
order's a journeyman, sort of anapprentice deceptor at this
point, but hoping to get her acouple chevrons on her sleeve as
she levels up.
Well, that's some greatfamilial bonding right there.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Great anting.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Can we say aunt when aunt from he goesting.
We say aunt when aunt from myaunt.
I mean, you know, it's all thebest qualities that you admire,
boss.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
You can say auntie, and I'm okay with that, because
auntie sounds weird, but auntiesounds like panty.
Auntie sounds like you'reagainst something.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh, auntie sounds weird, but it sounds like panty.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Auntie sounds like you're against something?

Speaker 2 (09:11):
oh, auntie, I thought no, you made a big thing about
panties.
Put on.
No, my, my, my auntie deborah.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well, what's your pro , deborah?
You don't have one?
Okay then, oh you're, oh you'remad.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Oh he's mad.
Oh, I didn't anticipate anger.
This is better than Ianticipated.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's not anger.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Let's go down the anti-path, just disdain.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
If it helps at all.
The other day I was asking theboyfriend because I say covers
and blankets interchangeably.
I think I've mentioned thatbefore.
I said something about a coverand he was like, okay, here's
this, but you know that that'snot a cover, like you're still
calling it a cover, and I waslike cover is perfectly fine for
this.
That is my blanket statement.
And then he told me to leaveand we haven't talked since.

(09:58):
So I'm not sure if that's agood or a bad sign.
That's fine, it sounds like hedidn't appreciate that joke.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
I wouldn't be so sure .
No.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Blanket statement was not okay.
He didn't actually make thatpart.
I thought blanket statement waspretty funny.
Nobody on this call agrees,it's fine.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
What I enjoy is how much you enjoy others.
Not enjoying these jokes Likethat's actually where my actual
joy comes from Is just thatyou're like I'm going to say
this and you're going to hate itand I'm going to laugh and
that's really rich.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
I have heard usually I don't I never enjoy watching
other people bomb, but I haveheard from some standup
comedians that sometimes it isas thrilling to be doing very,
very well as to be doing as shitas you possibly could be that
both feel the same, and so Ithink I do have a little bit of
that Like maybe this is going tosuck, but it's going to suck

(11:01):
for all of us that I'm going toenjoy that.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Some, some people really get I don't know if they
feel the same.
Uh, because you got to keep itup when you're, when you're
killing it, but when you'rebombing, I know like you're kind
of like okay, well, fuck, yeah,like all right, like how it
can't get, literally cannot getworse.
So how about this joke fuckers?
And then it just gets you knowwhatever?
Um, but yeah, I know what youmean by like it is the two
halves of the same coin, or twosides of the same coin, yeah,

(11:31):
Well, you just said it can't getworse.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
I'll only mention that John Oliver was on Hot Ones
talking about how the worsthe's ever bombed was in
Edinburgh.
At what is that fest called,Not Sketch Fest?
Oh, is it the music fest no, no,no, it's like the comedy
festival in edinburgh the filmand comedy.
I'll think of it and then I'lllook.
Okay, yeah, um, but he, heopened for somebody, fucking,

(11:56):
bombed, fucking horribly, theworst of his career.
And then the guy went out andkilled it.
Probably like probably becausethat's why he's the headliner,
but also probably because johnwarmed them up in the worst way
and then they were calling forthe guy to come back out and do
an encore and john said let medo this.
And he just walked back outonto the stage and there was a

(12:18):
guy in the front row thatgrabbed his beer bottle and said
I will cut you.
And so he turned around andwent back off stage immediately.
He was like I think he mighthave.
He was like if you come backout and tell any more jokes, I
will cut you.
So then they let the headlinercome up.

(12:39):
It worked out well foreverybody.
Now John gets to be adorable onmy TV.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Is it the Fringe?

Speaker 4 (12:45):
That's it, the Fringe Fest.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yes, not about the Fox TV show he talks a lot about
this.
He says he was on an interviewwith John Oliver where he was
like nobody found me funny inEngland.
I come to America somehow.
We love him.
Yeah, people holding their sideslaughing.
It's great for me.
I'm literally not funny at home, I'm not in the opposite of fun

(13:12):
.
Yeah, good for him, we're gladto take him.
Would that?
We all find our place in theworld where we're appreciated
like that?
Um, I know, uh, I've been, uh,I was telling uh, coach and boss
, that you know four kids doinga ton of parenting.
I'm always tired and justtrying to get through the day
and I love, I love my job, lovebeing a dad and um, but
sometimes you're just like, ohgod, and you know, just just
takes the wind out of your sailsand you just need a break.

(13:34):
And then I would like look atmy text messages and there's
these challenges from boss inthe text messages.
Like castle, you better getyour fucking fighting shoes on
because I'm coming for you andall this shit.
And coach, of course, is doingwhat he's doing, laughing
because he thinks it's great.
And I'm like, like, in my onemoment of respite I'm like, oh,

(13:55):
god, damn it, boss.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Like let me just check in what my two of my best
friends in the world have to say.
Yeah, what's?
Maybe there's a big.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Maybe there'll be a pick me up in this.
No, no.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, she's making fun of people.
It's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yeah, the other thing is this is hilarious.
There was a quote, quote inthere and I quote for everyone
who listens to this podcast Igive him love, said mocking, not
about me, not about me, justabout a character making fun of
someone who would give love.
So it's true.

(14:32):
It's true.
So much heartache, um, okay,today we pick up.
Uh, ted lasso, season 2,episode 12, inverting the
pyramid of success.
Boss, since you are, are theperson of the hour, walk us
through.
We have just seen whistle,whistle on the on the field and
we cut to Higgins's office andKeely walks in.

(14:54):
And what happens here?

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Keely walks in, apparently still not knocking on
the office door of Higgins.
Whether it's Dr Sharon orHiggins not a knocking office no
, she walks in Higgins.
Is it's, uh, dr sharon orhiggins?
Not a knocking office?
No, uh, she walks in higgins.
Is holding two puppies, whichmaybe this is what I should send
to you, castleton, when you'refeeling low, after I send you
the thing where I mock you.
Maybe it's like here's apicture of the nicest man with

(15:17):
two dogs.
How does that?

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I do.
I actually I'm okay with that.
I love puppies and I loveHiggins, so uh, so it is.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
Uh, the dogs that he's holding are the mascot idol
semifinals.
We're trying to decide one ofthese two contestants will be
our new mascot.
Will it be Macy Greyhound orTina Feyhound?
Those are, those are bothpretty decent.
I'm okay with both of those.
Um, uh, are they all frombarkingham palace?
And then everybody laughs andfinally higgins says um, miss

(15:51):
campbell, here runs the shelter,london's premiere.
All female dog reader, suzycampbell, nice to meet you, and
does introductions, and they'reall very polite and kind with
each other while holding dogsmaybe that's the secret.
Maybe everybody just needs tohold more puppies.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Well, I got the sense that little Susan Campbell was
equally interested in cat as dog, if you know what I'm talking
about, Because I mean mygoodness.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
What the?
Fuck she is fucked Over, she'spretty interested in Keely Over
Keely.
Listen, you dirty bird.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
I mean, there seem to be some vibes.
She is glancing plenty.
She is not uninterested inKeeley.
I don't know many people whowould be meeting her in person,
though.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Oh, no, no, she is throwing as much Huge fan, it's
like a full, like this is a.
She is not gonna fucking, sheis not gonna miss her shot.
You know this is a Hamiltonmoment for her.
She's like I am a huge fan andshe's like huge fan.
She will not let go of her hand.
She keeps holding her.

(17:09):
She looks her dead in the eye,full eye contact.
Um, listen, uh, I can't tellthe future, but if keely were
gonna date a woman, uh, I thinksusie, susie campbell seems like
, uh, like a pretty goodcandidate to me.
She's got some nice flannel.
She's a dog breeder.
You know the preeminent dogbreeder in London, so you know,

(17:35):
runs Barkingham Palace.
I think this is a goodcandidate.
Susie Campbell with a Z.
And yes, so Keeley, justpolitelyitely you know huge fan
Keeley says oh, thanks, andshe's like huge fan.
She's like thank you, shedoesn't really know what to like
.
What do you do?
And Keeley says now is a badtime and keep going, boss.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Higgins says oh no, no, no, sure, it's a great time,
uh nice to meet you.
Uh suzy gives keely a kiss onthe hand, which is a move, I
guess listen, suzy campbell isas close to like I.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Whatever suzy campbell is, her the twin
version in the world of men islike a weird neckbeard guy, like
is like a, you know, like herkissing, kissing keely sanders
is preposterous, but it's likeit's a milady kind of move, you
know, it's like yes, I think I'mbeing extra courteous, but

(18:40):
you're like, oh god, butactually it's weird, yeah, it's
super weird, uh, yeah also I Ifeel a little bit bad.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
it's not his fault.
I read an article years agoabout how, uh uh, rex grossman
was going to have to be thequarterback who played in the
super bowl when the bears wereplaying, because we didn't have
any other options, and said whatare are we going to do?
Have Kyle Neckbeard Orton do it.
And so I cannot.
Poor Kyle Orton.

(19:09):
He did nothing except brieflyact as the quarterback for the
Bears, and for the rest of mylife, I will think, kyle
Neckbeard Orton, I'm really I'mso sorry about that.
They even tried to make theKyle driver work and we were
like nope, kyle Neckbeard Orton.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
That's it, neckbeard Orton.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Got it.
So finally, keely sits down totalk to Higgins.
He says something wrong and shesays, actually, something is
incredibly right.
The money people that backbanter.
They want to finance me openingmy own PR firm.
He says, oh my God.
She says I know right, I needsome advice.
And he says I'm flattered youcame to me instead of Ted or Roy

(19:50):
and she says they're attraining.
Well, instead of Rebecca, thenshe's the one I'm afraid to tell
.
I'm happy to be on the list.
Which nice job, higgins.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
You got that yeah yeah, it made me laugh, it made
me laugh.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
At the very least he realizes now is not the time to
pick this fight.
I'm glad to be on the list,that's fine.
I'm happy to be here.
She says I'm scared.
He says well, look, that'sperfectly natural.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
It can be terrifying becoming the boss and she says
no, only now does he put downthe dogs, by the way I didn't.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
I didn't see why that would have been a necessary
thing.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
You know he's like when he's celebrating, like he's
like, oh my god, you know, andhe's still just holding the dogs
, and super cute, um.
So yeah, keep going boss uh.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
She says no, I'm scared of telling rebecca I'm
leaving.
And he says, oh right, becauseshe's so intimidating.
He says no, she's one of mybest friends.
We go.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
And you leaving would be abetrayal on a level usually
reserved for Greek mythology.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
No Like at every pass , the only thing that he has
done well so far is say thathe's glad to be on the list.
He is not picking up anythingelse that she's throwing down
Right Just across the board.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Finally, Keely says no, I just I don't want to
appear like I'm not grateful forthe amazing opportunity she's
given me here.
And at this point Higgins doeskick in a little bit more says
Keely again good mentor hopesyou will move on.
A great mentor knows that youwill and she's right.

(21:28):
She says, oh, I like that.
He said, yeah, I just made thatup.
Wow, so I don't.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
I don't think there's like a lot of relationship
development necessarily here,but it's cute to see them
interacting one-on-one yeah andand higgins can give off the the
dad I mean, he's the father ofa bunch of boys and all that.
So he gives off that dad energysometimes in very specific ways
for the characters, and Ienjoyed him doing that here and

(21:57):
it kind of going right, right,like ultimately it goes right
because all she really all shereally needed was somebody to
come to so that they could justgo.
Everything's going to be okay.
That's really it.
Whatever it is, greek tragedy,blah, blah, blah.
You just need to be assuredthat everything's going to be
okay and he nailed it on that.
But yeah, he definitely washaving a little struggle getting

(22:18):
there once he figured it out,he did great.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
What she needed to say was I'm doing this thing,
I'm afraid about it.
Tell me it's going to be fine.
And he's like, yeah, it's goingto be fine.
And that's all he needed to do.
The rest of it was just, youknow, going down.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Sometimes girl talk is just girl Listen.
Well yes, I mean it, I mean it's.
It's brutal that he, I, I, Ideeply detest that.
Uh, dad, energy requires beingdumb or kind of being a both
oafish kind of whatever.
Um, but that's where we are, uhin the world and um, uh, yeah,

(22:59):
we don't see a lot of keely andhiggins interacting.
We catch them with rebecca,between them during games and
we'll see them in rebecca'soffice, but not just the two of
them.
I'm trying to rack my brain tothink of another scene that's
just keely and uh and higgy baby.
But, um, yeah, anyway, uh, wecut to.

(23:20):
Uh like, uh, this littleestablishing shot of richmond
green that I'm like it's theweirdest establishing shot.
It's like I'm like is it theright show, are we?
That's so interesting, it'ssuch a little, tell me what?

Speaker 3 (23:36):
yeah, tell me about that reaction, because uh, boss
is nodding I didn't have thatreaction.
I don't.
I mean, it's not like this is ashot that I went.
Oh my God, this is brilliant,but what, what?
What struck you both about thisshot?

Speaker 4 (23:51):
The only thing that I'll say is that I don't know if
they have gone out of their wayto frame the city rather than
the characters.
I feel like there are a fewother shows.
They do it all the time on thecharacters.
I feel like there are a fewother shows they do it all the
time on the Bear.
There are a shit ton of shotslike Chicago Aerial shots, a
bunch of other ones trying toreference very much where the

(24:14):
show is taking place.
This feels like it would.
This could actually be in aromantic comedy where Bridget
Jones is walking home after abad date.
It feels like it is a prettyshot.
I'm not sure it's not giving mea lot in terms of character or
surroundings.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
And also, when you do a shot like this, you get a
tree line sort of left side ofthe frame and the right side of
the frame is looking straightdown the sidewalk and there's a
person on the phone andtypically then you hear the
dialogue from that person on thephone.
So I'm like, oh, okay, is thatyou know so?
So, uh and that, and that'sthat is what ends up happening.
But it does feel like you know,this is, this is sam uh, on the

(24:58):
phone at a distance.
But at first you go, oh, thisis, yeah, I felt, it felt like I
don't know a little, a littleatypical or not, not a shot that
they usually doestablishing-wise.
He says I told Akufo I wouldgive him my answer on Sunday,
and who's he talking to here,coach?

Speaker 3 (25:18):
He's talking to his dad and so dad asked does this
mean you've made a decision?
And Sam responds I think so.
It's kind of a heavy, heavy,heavy breath there.
Sigh, yes, I don't know.
He's going back and forth andthen Sam says I'd be crazy not
to go right.
And dad responds Samuel, you'reoverthinking this.

(25:42):
Relax, stop looking for theanswer and let the answer come
to you.
If you open yourself to it, theuniverse will give you a sign.
Sam responds Daddy, with alldue respect, isn't this decision
too important to be left to theuniverse?
Response the universe hasalways put me on the right path.
The universe told me to marryyour mother and to buy Bitcoin

(26:06):
in 2009.
2009.
I don't know what Bitcoin didafter 2009,.
Really, I don't really get thatparticular one, but I get where
I hadn't heard of Bitcoin in2009,.
So I guess if you got in on it,then you're one of the people
who got rich.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Well, if you got in on it, then you got it for
nothing.
I remember there was a littlekid I read about who begged his
grandma for $1,000 and she gaveit to him and then so it was
like I don't know, I don't knowwhat it was, a share, but then
it went from whatever.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Let's say, it was a hundred bucks a share and you
got 10 shares.
Then it went up to 68 000 ashare, so you know what I mean.
So you're like holy shit, soyes, big money.
So yeah, so they you know, theyboth have their laugh.
I think that's a great littlepiece of character about you.
Know sam's dad?
He talks about dad at home, butanyway, being in me, being in
on Bitcoin 2009 is a prettyslick way to say we ain't
calling home to no hut folks.
This is a different Africa thanyou may be picturing, which I

(27:15):
thought was cool.
Then, yeah, so you boughtBitcoin.
Okay, dad, I'll keep an eye outfor any messages from the
universe, and so I love you andI love you.
It's great, fantastic.
I guess in the next few years,my son will start saying it back
to me.

(27:36):
We'll see.
I'm no Ola, so we'll see how itgoes.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
All right, but that's I mean coach.
That's a huge thing.
His father and son grown mansaid I love you to his dad
openly.
You know, have thatvulnerability with your dad at
that age and you know we talkabout the lack of of decent
father role models on TV.
There's Sam's dad, ola Obasanya, and then there's who we will

(28:06):
come to meet at some point, andthen you have Bandit Healer on
Louie.
That's it.
It's like nobody else.
Everybody else is Homer Simpson, tim the Toolman, taylor or Al
Bundy or George Jefferson, oryou know, right, um right, it's

(28:28):
all, it's all dads who are comicrelief.
Um, so this is in in any othershow man, this, this would get
you like drawn and quartered,having a character by himself on
the phone with a characteryou've never met.
Right, and you hear once, youhear both sides of it, but

(28:49):
you're not.
There's.
No, you know the visual of theof the other character and and
yet they pull it off.
We talk about how they alwaysseem to pull it off.
Um, toey jimo is, you know,just captivating?
Uh, go ahead.
Yes, yes, boss.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Bob Belcher is an excellent father, I will add him
.
He doesn't get it right all thetime, but he tries very hard to
take care of his children.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
But he still is comic relief.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Yeah, bob Belcher, he does but he gets in his own way
there's nobody on the show.
That isn't comic relief.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
That's an interesting thing.
I guess maybe there's someintent impact built into that
question.
He's not always an effectivefather, but he's definitely a
loving father.
He cares about his family.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yes, that's interesting he does, which is a
step in the right direction, buthe still takes it out of his
own way, he still fucks up andhe still is insane and does you
know like?

Speaker 4 (29:47):
listen, you do crack one time and all of a sudden
you're insane.
I'm sorry, you say you thinkyou did crack one time and if
you did, you like it, and all ofa sudden you're insane.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Fine whatever judgmental oh god, I still think
of the uh all was sunny episode.
Uh, where sweet d wakes up.
Does I think it's a crackepisode, or there's a couple of
crack episodes, right?
But?
There's one where she wakes upin, like living in a bunk house.
She wakes up next to like and Ijust go what you're screwing.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
You're screwing this all up entirely there's an
episode episode where Sweet Dand Dennis get hooked on crack.
That's one episode.
What you're referring to is theepisode where a bar down the
street had a secret recipe forsome kind of drink.
So Sweet D tries to sleep withthe manager and the manager is
like I am a woman, can you nottell?
And she's like, oh okay, that'sfine.

(30:43):
And then she sleeps with the,the guy that does the dishes.
Essentially he's like I've gotthe recipe, come sleep with me
and I'll give it to you.
And then she wakes up in thebunkhouse after sleeping with
the elderly man without teeth.
But she's like I got a recipeshe didn't you're right, yeah,
she didn't flash over it to you.
The note actually said thiswoman is a whore, but that is

(31:09):
the episode you're thinking of.
Do you see that door?
That door says pirate.
Do you think they have piratesback there?
I see a door that's markedprivate and you're illiterate.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
We may have to just pick our favorite All is Sunny
episodes and just do that ohit's.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
the gang tries desperately to win.
I would 100% participate.
What's yours, Moss?
That would be very funny.
The gang tries desperately towin an award.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
That's your favorite one.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Hands down, no question, oh my God.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
When they actually show the oh, the play.
Oh my god, how is my brain?

Speaker 4 (31:52):
the.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Nightman.
Comet yeah, nightman Comet yeahyes, I mean the actual
production when she's there.
Jesus, that was.
I mean I haven't watched allthe episodes, I've caught some
and blah, blah, blah, but I knewenough to know why that was.
I mean, I haven't watched allthe episodes, I've caught some
and blah, blah, blah, but I knewenough to know why.
That was fucking hilarious andI I damn near passed out
laughing.
I mean, that was I mean not forthe faint of heart, but god

(32:16):
damn that was funny oh, they arethe worst people it's so
amazing.
Yeah, seriously, like I'm likewow, like inappropriate doesn't
even begin.
Like inappropriate is like intheir sleep they're
inappropriate, like once theywake up inappropriate, does not
touch it anyway, that's not whatwe're doing here.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
But yes, I would be totally into doing uh sunny.
It's always sunny episodes,that's it's kind of amazing,
because at one point it was like, oh, there's south park, that
that type of humor you know,like oh, how low can you go,
kind of thing.
And then right, and you think Iremember when there was
kentucky fried chicken, kentuckyfried chicken before they
turned into kfc, which wasapparently to take the name

(32:56):
chicken out of the title.
Uh, I guess, allegedly, I'm notgonna say is that true?

Speaker 3 (33:01):
I I've heard that before and that is is horrifying
.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
No, it's because no, it's that you can't have a state
.
If you are referencing aspecific state, then everything
on your product needs to comefrom that state.
So they changed Kentucky FriedChicken to KFC and St Louis
Bread Bowl to Panera.
If you're having a specificplace referenced, it needs to
actually come from that place.

(33:24):
You can't do that if it'snationwide.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Why Says who?

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Rules taxing.
I don't know man we're going tohave to look at this.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Boston baked beans have to be made in Boston or you
can't call them Boston, no, butif you have a restaurant that I
have, no idea.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
I haven't even heard of this until 30 seconds ago,
but I'm going to argue.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
No, no, no.
Boston Baked Beans isn't acorporation.
Boston Baked Beans is a foodthat you people eat for some
terrible reason.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Because, they're delicious, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Anyway, Anyway.
So you have that.
And then there's like, oh, themarket is saturated, you can't
have any.
And then I remember when BostonMarket happened, it was like
this different, it wasrotisserie chicken instead of
fried chicken.
And then it took overeverything and now I think
Boston Market made.
Then it turned into well, itwas Boston Chicken, and then it
turned into Boston Market, andnow I think they're mostly out

(34:26):
of business.
But it's funny when you thinksomething's got a line on,
something like no one canpossibly do gross out humor more
than whatever.
Or you think once upon a timeyou're like, oh, the exorcist is
the gross, is the scariestmovie I've ever seen.
And then the horror genreabsolutely explodes to where
there's like no, to wherethey're sewing people together.
You just go.
Okay, it's not.
Like every time you thinksomebody has gone past, you know

(34:50):
the shock value can't get worse.
It always seems like peoplemanage.
So all of a sudden he justreally carved out a really
interesting niche.
And when we're talking aboutthe worst people, this is the
polar opposite.
Sam Abasanya is.
He's like the best dude ever ontv, like is there a better dude
?

Speaker 4 (35:07):
the gang would eat him alive.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
No, question oh my god well, they would try.
They even understand each otherI mean like I'm trying to
figure out if they could evencommunicate effectively like it
doesn't feel like the samespecies.
What's that?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Yeah, the gang meets Sam Obasade.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Yeah, meets Sam Obasade.
Exactly I years ago, I pitchedan article I can't remember if I
actually wrote it about takinga character from one TV show and
adding them to a different TVshow to make both the character
and the new show better, andmine was that.
I really wanted to see PhilDunphy from Modern Family that
character, not the actor, butthe actual character on Veep,

(35:50):
Because I felt like he would tryso hard.
He would want so much to makethings better and they would
crush him in every imaginableway.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Yeah, the one-liners that would get flung his way
would be For the Ages.
For the Ages.
That show was so fucked up.
I mean, it was hilarious.
Whew, yeah, veep.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I really loved Julia.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Louis-Dreyfus is just a goddess, I mean you want a
successful show, Figure out howto get her in it.
Apparently that's the formula.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
And if you have time, watch the go to YouTube.
We'll put it on the communitysite.
But have you guys seen LastFuckable Day?

Speaker 4 (36:42):
I think we've talked about that.
Yeah, last Fuckable.
Day yeah, I'm like, oh gosh, Ithink we've talked about that.
Yeah, last fucking day.
Yeah, I'm like, oh, I thinkwe've talked about it.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
You should.
Oh, you're in for, you're infor a treat.
You are in for a treat.
We'll put it on the communitysite.
Um so, um, we are, uh, we arefollowing sam.
He is looking for a sign fromthe universe and coach what does
he?
What does he see once he hangsup with his dad?

Speaker 3 (37:02):
so, as he hangs up with his dad, we get we get him
turning and looking over at afield where folks are playing
some pickup football and thefirst person he sees has on an
Obasanya jersey.
You see his name and number onthe back.
And then he sees a couple morepeople with Richmond jerseys on

(37:24):
and they have the black tapeover it.
So it's not only showing that,oh, he's a cool soccer player,
but that this stand that reallyin many ways put him on a world
stage has also had an impact towhere it is clear from the way
it's shown there that it wouldbe totally uncool and not

(37:46):
getting it to show up with thatjersey with uh, dubai still
written across your chest, likewe don't do dubai anymore, like
that's uncool.
What?
What jumps out at me?
And uh to those who still eatthis I don't want to have a
debate about it just just mademe think of it is Chick-fil-A

(38:08):
and I feel like there's sort ofthree people.
There's three types forChick-fil-A I'm finding there is
they're anti LGBTQ.
Why is my brain doing that?
And so I will never.
And there's screw you people, Iwill.
And and there's screw youpeople, I will.
And then there's this veryinteresting group of people who

(38:28):
are like I'm all for supportingeveryone, but I really like
their chicken sandwiches.
I go back and forth in terms ofmy feelings about that group
but at any rate it has some ofthat vibe to it of like the in
crowd knows that we're not doingDubai air across our chest
anymore.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
And so what decision does that make him make coach?

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Ostensibly like, from what I see my sense of the
moment is that was definitely avote, the universe casting a
vote for staying.
We don't get the actualdecision, so we can't possibly
know, but it definitely feltlike if Dad is saying, listen to

(39:17):
the universe, relax, listen tothe universe, and you turn
around and see three peoplecelebrating you specifically and
the team overall, that's a votefrom the universe then.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Got it.
Okay, so two scenes back to backwhere it's just sort of bumping
the plot down the road a littlebit.
Now we're, we're it was gettingsort of afternoon kind of vibe
with Sam, and now it seems we'resort of at nighttime and we are
in Keely's flat and boss walkus through.

(39:53):
This Roy is looks like he'stoweling off some dishes.
She's got her hair down.
This is nice.
She looks so pretty.
You know, when she was reallydone up last time we saw her
hair in that really super tighttop bun, uh, top knot kind of
thing, whatever they call it andum, and she was really made up.
Now she's like in her pjs,hairs down.

(40:14):
She looks a lot morecomfortable and I don't know
something about that makes memore comfortable.
I don't know sometimes when,when everybody's too done up, I
get like, like anxious watching.
I'm like Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
I feel like costuming and hair is actually usually a
pretty reliable way of conveyingthose things.
Vince Gilligan talked about howRhea Sehorne playing Kim Wexler
in Better Call Saul dependingon what she needed to do and
where she was in her day, howhigh and tight her ponytail was.
No kidding, if she was going tocourt or she was going to work,

(40:52):
it was high and tight, and ifshe was hanging out getting
drinks with Jimmy, it was comingdown and down more.
So, yeah, no, I think that'sdefinitely a thing Interesting,
mm-hmm.
Yeah, also, I have a wholething about how, uh, the boots
that the women wear in pitchperfect tell you all you need to
know about their characters.
We could talk about that atsome point.
That's, that's a whole thingtoo.

(41:13):
Um so uh roy says uh, so thismorning, uh, jamie apologized to
me for what he said to you atthe funeral.
And she immediately says Ididn't say anything to him.
I didn't Not me Didn't do this.
And he says I know, he said hedid it on his own.
And she says and what did youdo?

(41:33):
She said what do you think Idid?
She said punched him.
She said headbutted him.
He said no.
And he says no worse, I fuckingforgave him.
Which Ben immediately saysdisgusting, isn't it?
Which, for me, called back toRebecca telling Higgins that Ted

(41:58):
forgave her right away.
Can you believe what he did?
He forgave me.
What a prick.
Right, right, right, yes Likelike there's an acknowledgement
that the forgiveness can happenright away, but that's still
kind of like a um uh sodisgusting in it and she says no

(42:18):
, I'm proud of you and smilesand seems genuinely happy I'm
really proud of you, you did itthe right way.
I fully support that.
He seems a little bit unsureand then she says I've got some
news too, though he immediatelysays, for fuck's sake, don't
tell me, ted tried to get withyou and all that.

(42:38):
Like no, no, it's not.
But then explains about the VCbanker from Banter and now they
want to finance her for her ownpr firm and she's extremely
excited.
To his credit, he says holyfucking shit, that's huge, picks
her up, you're a fucking ceoand shit.
That's amazing, like uh, inwhatever ways it is that they

(43:03):
have sometimes taken charactersand directions that I don't
appreciate.
Roy was always supportiveboyfriend, never threatened by
her success, never one of theselike well, how am I supposed to
be the man if I'm not makingmore money?
None of that bullshit.
She was successful and he wasthrilled with her.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, and this brings up a a thing I that drives me
crazy.
If, like, sometimes, becausewe're social creatures,
sometimes people don't know theright rate of joy or sadness or
whatever, and fill in the blankabout an emotion until they
bounce it off someone else, youknow what I mean.
And so, like, be be a goodfriend to your friends and like

(43:48):
be super excited for them if, ifthey life is full of
disappointments, uh, life ispain highness.
Anything who tells you anyoneelse is selling something or
anything anything else.
Uh, we know.
Uh, coach, god, what was theline?
I think it was you, coach, butit could have been wrong.
Maybe it was you, but I forgetwhat have you told me?

(44:08):
A story about?
Um, uh, that boy's going to geteverything he's got coming, or
something along those lines thatring a bell for either one of
you.
No, okay, I told it to myselfin a dream and it doesn't mean I

(44:31):
didn't tell, I was just comingoff you to say it doesn't mean I
didn't tell it.
That line isn't sparking it forme.
But, yeah, sorry, yeah.
Well, it's like uh, william,money and unforgiven.
Um, you know, I guess he had tocome in and klanusa said we all
got a common kid.
We've all, we're all gonna getwhat's coming to us and, and you
know, seven out of 10 timesit's going to suck balls.
It is going to suck.
Things happen and it just sucks, it just sucks.
So when something happens tosomeone you care about or love,

(44:56):
remove yourself from theequation and just be fucking
awesome and cheer for people andsupport them and, you know,
give them the reflect back tothem the joy that they may not
be able to access withoutbouncing it off of someone else.
And I really love this momentfor roy because he's like.
You know, we talk aboutsomething about ted lasso.
It's just like really, uh, youbuild a great team.

(45:17):
When the you know, when theteam wins, like you, it feels
great.
Sometimes, uh, after a sportingevent, they'll interview a
player and they'll be like, hey,you just like hit your 400th
home run.
Or hey, you just, you know, youjust took over the league
scoring record, like you.
And he's like I, as long as wewin, I just don't give it.
Yes, I'm sure someday I willappreciate that right.

(45:38):
And with certain people you gobullshit.
I know you're a fucking primadonna, I know that's like a but,
but like if they actually canaccess that when you know where
they're like.
No, this is about the team.
When I say me, you say we inthe coach Bishop fashion.
If you can get there, it's abetter place to be.
It's a better place to be.

(45:59):
And Roy is fully there withKeely.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
No-transcript absolutely everything you just
said yeah, it's interesting youyou bring that particular piece
up because, just in the way thatthe timing played out in
recording these, we just hadsouth carolina um women's
basketball team win the ncaatournament, uh, for 2024, and

(46:30):
one of the things and I'm notthe only person who noted it,
but one of the things I notedabout Dawn Staley was how
quickly and consistently andhonestly she gave everyone else
their flowers.
One of her former players wasdoing some sideline reporting
essentially, and came down tointerview her after the game and

(46:54):
was saying like what a greatgame it was.
And before she'd even answerany questions about the game
Dawn Staley is going before.
I got to say how proud I am ofyou and you're doing such a
great job and this whole, I meanjust and and if you paid
attention to her interviewsthroughout that weekend and I've
looked at more stuff that she'sdone, that is very much her way

(47:16):
and it's one of the things thatI'm.
You know she is moving, you know, with a bullet up my um, up my
favorite coaches list, likeshe's.
You know she's already top fivefor now and I and there's no
artifice whatsoever, none, Imean just and no, it's not like
she really means it.
I've been looking around, I'vebeen noticing that's great,

(47:37):
that's great.
Like you just know, she's beentaking in everybody's greatness
and whenever she has anopportunity to go, that's great.
Um, she says it and yet Ireally get the sense that she is
really celebrating for peoplewhen they, when they get their
wins and when they get theirmoments, or when something's
good for the game.
She talked about how last year,losing in the semi-final when

(47:57):
they were definitely thefavorite to win, it all sucked
for her and the team, but it wasgood for women's basketball and
she's able to, like say thatwith you know, yeah I was gonna
say, say it with your chest, butI guess it comes across a
little different when you say itabout a woman.
But my point being uh, no, it'sweird, right like I started to
say it and I was like let's notum.

(48:20):
But yeah, I think she it comesfrom a real place it's, it is
wonderful.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
And and my favorite thing about the, the, the
post-game conference, or whenthey gave her a trophy and all
that stuff, she took themicrophone and she thanked
Caitlin Clark, who was theplayer on the other team, for
lifting up the entire sport.
Uh, I just, I just can't loveit enough.
Um, and it matters, man, itmatters.

(48:51):
Everyone would have forgivenher had she been so wrapped up
in her victory or whatever herteam, that she forgot.
But like this is a culturalphenomenon.
It is a moment in time wheresomehow everything coalesced
around the women's game and shewas not clueless about it, she
knows why.

(49:12):
And and she's going to call outone of the key players in that
resurgence and, um, does itmatter that she's not her player
?
No, it's, it's just, it's a,it's a we're all in this
together kind of moment and it'sit's selfless.
It's one of the reasons why,for those uh people who know how
much I, uh, I I rave aboutcoach Bishop and how like he's

(49:35):
fine on this podcast, like asolid B plus but maybe an a
minus, but I'm, as a real coach,as a real coach, whether it's
life coach, whether whateverhe's doing, he has that, he has
that affect on people and peoplekids he taught 20 years ago see
him and they run to coach andthey, they still want his

(49:57):
approval and they still like hematters to them.
And when you're a person thatkeeps putting goodness and
kindness and and joy, and youknow it's not like, uh, coach,
coach is full of discipline.
It's not easy to be, to be onhis team.
He is demanding as hell, butnever without reason, never
without cause.
He wants the best for you andhe wants the best for the team

(50:20):
and he'll demand it from you andyou will feel it and you get.
All the great coaches seem tohave this, this sort of affect.
And if we reduce that down andwe say, ok, we're not, how many
of us are actually going to begreat coaches?
And it's it's.
It's hard to do, but in our ownlife the key ingredient is that

(50:43):
that sort of honesty and andopenness and being willing to,
you know, say the things otherpeople won't say.
It's a huge.
Now my daughter playedbasketball I this, we went to
the first.
She's 10 years old, neverplayed before.
It doesn't love sports, butshe's like I'll give it a shot.

(51:03):
It was local, you know localteam, and we went in there and I
live in a blue collar town andthe guy, the guy that was the
coach, the guy that was thecoach, I'm like, oh man, if you
judge a book by its cover, helooked like.
He just looked like kind of anightmare from a different era.
He had a wicked Boston accentand just looked like kind of a

(51:26):
real thick guy and I'm like, ohboy.
And then he proceeds to coachand he's fucking great, just
fantastic.
These girls improved so muchand he was, he was with it and
he was kind and he was nurturingand he was understanding and he
was personable, right, and atthe end of the season, um, he's

(51:49):
walking out and I remember Ijust went up to him and I was
like, hey, I don't know ifanyone told you this, but like
you're an amazing coach, likeyou're an amazing, amazing coach
.
And what you got with rawmaterial at the beginning of
this season, compared to whatthese girls are going to leave
with skill-wise, isunprecedented.
Like I never thought mydaughter would be able, in the

(52:11):
final game of the season, shegoes to the free throw line for
the first time ever and drains,both as a 10 year old and I'm
like, oh my god, like I didn'tthink like I.
You I've talked many times onthis podcast, but I don't have
athletes.
Uh as uh, my children theydon't it's not their thing.
They don't, they don't care, um,but just what he did and you go
up and you say it and, uh, Iremember maybe it's something I

(52:34):
got from my dad.
Uh, we were on a delivery.
I was young.
We were delivering, uh,something for his company and we
were waiting for a shipping,receiving docs.
We were had industrial supplywarehouses, what my dad's
business was basically.
So we were delivering somethingI don't remember.
But sometimes the shipperreceiver is also, you know,
moving stuff, moving stuffaround the warehouse or you know

(52:55):
whatever.
And this one guy I think I'vementioned this before, tell me
if this sounds familiar my dadand I are standing there I was
probably 10, maybe and we'rejust waiting for the receiver,
the guy that runs the receivingdepartment, to finish what he's
doing.
He is on these huge racks, he'sdriving this forklift and we're

(53:16):
just watching him and it's likea ballet, like driving a
forklift.
This guy must have been drivinga forklift forever.
There was no wasted movements.
It like, as he's turning down,comes the, come the forks and
and he's turning and then he'smaking sure the thing doesn't
tip and he grabs this one thing,puts it on there and we're
waiting for him and he gets downand comes over to us and he's
turning and then he's makingsure the thing doesn't tip and

(53:37):
he grabs this one thing, puts iton there and then we're waiting
for him and my, he gets downand comes over to us and he's
just like this gruff, you knowwhatever, and my dad goes.
That was, that was the mostbeautiful forklift driving I've
ever seen in my life.
It was a true, true joy towatch you do that.
And the guy was stunned, youknow, like he's like ah, like
like no.
Then he's like oh, thank you,yeah I've been driving a flag

(53:58):
lift forever, you know like thatkind of thing.
But when you see it, it makes.
It makes a difference if youextend that little little piece,
and just, why not say it?
You know, if you have thethought, why not say it?
So I really love, uh, very,very, very long-winded way of
saying um, it's something we allcan do, it doesn't cost
anything.
The best coaches do iteffortlessly.
But I really love this dynamichere where Roy, unabashedly, is

(54:23):
just thrilled for Keely Coach.
I'm sorry, boss, keep walkingus through this please.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Oh, I definitely can.
And also yes to everything youjust said.
I don't want to make it soundlike I wasn't paying attention.
She's extremely excited.
She's more excited than evenafter she got done telling
Higgins, even though shebasically said to Higgins like I
know I want to do it, I'm justscared to do it it.

(54:51):
Now she's finally saying likeyeah, no, I'm actually going to
do this.
She's extremely excited.
He picks her up.
They kiss.
She says she loves him so much.
He says look at you, the boss,and she laughs a little bit.
He says you're not going tohave time for anything else and
she says shut your pretty mouth.
And covers his mouth with herhand, and then we're done with

(55:13):
that scene, not going to havetime for me anymore.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
I'll shut your pretty mouth yeah.
It's one of those things whenpeople make a joke like in real
time.
It was this for me, wheresomebody makes a joke, that's
not a joke how do you handlethat part?
And so it's a joke in quotes.

(55:39):
You know, not gonna have timefor me anymore.
Um, I thought she did as good ajob as she could, kind of like
being like oh, don't beridiculous, you know saying to
shut your pretty mouth andputting her hand over his mouth.
But it there was definitelysome realness behind that.
That was not just like afrivolous throwaway line well.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
This is why I'd like to bring up what to do and then
what not to do.
So roy was perfect until hesaid made it about him.
I'm like roy, you had it, hadit and lost it.
You know like.
You know what I mean because soit's just be happy, for this is
their moment.
You know what I mean, just makesure it's it's it's about them.
This is their moment.
You know what I mean, just makesure it's about them.
This is not a you moment.
Roy, whatever your insecuritiesare great, address it another

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time, not in the middle of thecelebration.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
And, roy, this is something that is a proclivity
for him.
I do know what you mean, Iguess I guess yeah, I mean yes.
The short answer is I know whatyou mean and I don't disagree.
I guess I got the feeling.
I mean it's not necessarily mydeal, but when he said it I was

(56:50):
like I get how he feels, how hewould have that moment, so I
guess I didn't have the samereaction to it.
But yeah, yeah, you're right, Imean it's, I'm sure coach.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
This is my entire childhood, my entire growth,
everything about.
So it's like I'm so hyper awareof someone's, someone putting
their anxiety on me, especiallyin a big moment.
So, being around people withborderline uh, borderline
personality disorder you know alot of it is like they want to.
They can't help it.
They need to make the worldmatch their, their worry on the

(57:18):
inside.
And then in my personal case,it was my mom, always letting
her anxiety ruin my big moment.
So I'd be like mom, I gotpromoted at work.
She's like, oh, that's great.
And then she'd be like but veryfast for you to get the
promotion.
Maybe they're setting you up tofail.
And I'm like just wanted totell you had some good news.

(57:39):
Like it's always couched insome worry, so anyway, I'm very,
very attuned to it.
But this didn't have to beabout Roy.
Nevertheless, go ahead, yes.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
I don't want to disagree with your childhood and
I'm not doing that.
The only thing that I'm sayingthe example that you just gave
is that your mom seemed worriedabout something that was
happening to you, whereas royseems worried about something
that might be happening to him,and I feel like that is a small
difference no, no, it is a.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
It is a clear difference, absolutely, but for
me it's the same thing.
It's like it's not okay.
Just give it a beat.
Yes, that concern can come atan appropriate time, just let.
Like I said, we're all going toget kicked in the private parts
of my life virtually constantlyand this is a weird time to be

(58:35):
alive as much as we.
You know, I love to be anoptimist and stuff, so it's been
.
You know it's rough.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
It is so weird to me that you are the one saying that
we're constantly getting kickedin the junk all the time.
I don't feel that way at all.
Oh, and that's not to be like.
I'm not saying that people thatfeel that way are wrong, but I
think that there are things thatsuck.
The thing I said before and thething I will come back to.

(59:03):
The world is beautiful and notsafe.
I don't feel like I'm gettingkicked in the junk.
I feel like there's shit thatneeds to be fixed and shit that
needs to be worked on, but Idon't feel bad about that.
I feel like it is an injusticethat needs to be resolved and it
makes me angry, but I'm notlike oh, life is out to try to
get me.
I think most people aren't outto try to get me no, no, no, I

(59:26):
didn't say that I'm saying thatlike.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Whatever the my version of is is, agreeing with
what you're saying is saying, um, what do you say?
Life is beautiful and not safe,so it's the not safe part you
can count on.
And then you've got to.
So, so folks so appreciate thebeauty when you, when you have
the liberty or time or peace ofmind to identify it Right.
So, uh, because you can counton the not safe part, like it's

(59:51):
more and more, yeah, I think Ifeel less and less safe in in um
certain way, but it's not likeit's targeted at me, it's just
that it you know.
And then, boss, also, apercentage of that is when you
take on the burden of, uh,raising other humans, then you,

(01:00:11):
then you absorb an additionalburden of keeping them safe, and
all you know.
So if it's like life isbeautiful and not safe, it's
like, oh, it's not safe for meand everyone else, and so that's
a ever present sort of concernand that's why it feels like man
, ok, you know, there's alwaysmore stuff to contend with
coming down the line.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
So the only disagreement I have with that is
that I understand that,especially having kids.
And you know, I'm not sayingthat your viewpoint is wrong.
I'm saying that I don't know ifthat is universal.
I think that if what you'resaying is that you believe,
anytime you get a chance to lookat the beautiful, you're going
to do that.
Yeah, but by and large I don'tknow.
Man, I feel like an asshole forsaying this.

(01:00:53):
But I take the fucking Brownline downtown Chicago and I'm
like man, this place rocks,things are awesome.
I am so glad it's spring, LikeI know that that makes me sound
like an ass.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
No, no, you sound like the Lego movie.
It's amazing.
I, I, I think it's, I thinkit's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
Good for you.
I don't understand the horrorsof the world.
I'm just saying most of thetime when I leave my apartment
I'm pretty happy.
Like when I'm in my apartmentI'm 100% happy, so that's where
my bed is and I get to go tosleep.
But just in general I'm not.
Yeah, I mean sorry.
No, that was it.

(01:01:33):
I'm mumbled off.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
But, yeah, I it's interesting.
As I'm listening to you both,I'm like where did I land on
this?
For me, what I'm hearing is adifference between and I think
because I've played in boththese areas the difference
between look at how wonderfulthe world could be.

(01:01:59):
Why would we not make it thatway all the time?
Or why can't it just be thatway all the time?
That sucks, that it can't bethat way all the time on one
side, and then on the other sideI'm hearing more of.
It's really an acceptance piece, and I've just been listening
to a bunch of philosophy stuff.
So maybe this is why it'sstanding out to me of life is as

(01:02:26):
it is and our job is to findour peace in that, because
that's the only part we control.
And I'll just toss in becauseit'll make it sound like I read
more books than I do that it'svery Western-Eastern dichotomy
there.
Philosophy, yeah the idea oflike make the the world should

(01:02:47):
be a way and I want to make itmore that way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Be the change you want to see in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
I want to make my.
That's right and I want to seethe change in me to allow.
That's like schools of thoughtthat you guys are sort of
playing with here.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Yeah, that makes sense.
That makes sense a lot, and Idon't think that our views are
incompatible, I just think thatit's slightly different enough
to be called on that you canwork towards the same goals even
when you have differentperceptions of how those things
meet, why those things need tocome about.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Uh, yeah, yeah, Uh, okay, I'm all, I'm all, I'm all.
No, listen, I'm not, I'm, Ican't, I can't, uh, um, can't
argue with anything.
We all, we all look at itdifferently.
Um, you know, there's, there'sthis, uh.
Sometimes I talk about howfrustrated I get when with, like

(01:03:50):
, the political environment.
Um, it's like straight out oftolkien.
I wish it need not havehappened in my time.
Uh, says Frodo, so do I, saidGandalf, and so do all who live
in to see such times.
But that is not for them todecide.
All we have to decide is whatto do with the time that has
given us.
Um, so, yeah, it's, it's that,um, and however you approach

(01:04:14):
that, then all the power to you,and I, for one, want to
celebrate that.
You think everything is awesome, boss, and this is what friends
are for, is.
I love that you're fired up togo and do your thing.
That is again something that'sawesome and not about me, and so

(01:04:35):
we should be psyched about that.
Coach, uh, can you walk usthrough this next scene here?
Uh, after we're done with royand keely, uh, we cut to um, the
uh, the pub, and we get a?
Uh, really nice, nicely framedtwo shot with a lot of depth of
ted and beard sitting oppositeeach other at the table and, uh,
walk us through this if youwould please absolutely so.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
You know, there's the general chatter, just need a
second.
It's jane from uh beard.
Uh, ted asked how's all thatgoing?
Uh beard response uh, we brokeup, his phone vibrates, at which
point he says oh, we're back onfew.
Which I laughed.
I really did laugh.

(01:05:20):
I mean, I like they've donesome interesting things with the
whole jane beard thing.
But I just thought like what a,what a quick, semi-silly way to
establish the chaos of arelationship.
Oh yeah, that would happen.
I just it that one got me forsure.
Um, then we've got may.

(01:05:40):
Come over here, you go, boys,she's got a couple of a couple
of pints there, because I'm aman of the world.
Um, thanks may, thanks may.
And then he, uh, ted, looks pastmay and sees, uh, one of the
headlines about um, him and hisanxiety attacks.
And may turn, sees what he'slooking at.

(01:06:02):
Don't worry about it, ted,it'll all wash out in the cycle.
It always does, ted, in the waythat you do when someone says
everything will be okay, but youfeel like it'll never be okay
says thank you, may, um, and asshe walks away, she snatches the
guy's newspaper where andreveals and I cannot think of

(01:06:23):
his name and it's gonna make mecrazy.
I will try to find it.
But it's the same guy who wenton a date with her and or don't
as far as he's concerned it wastwo dates, um and who didn't get
any because he was constantlycorrecting her.
So that that I just you know,if you're gonna have it there,
why not get a little extramileage out of the moment.

(01:06:45):
So I thought that was funny.
She snatches the paper, ballsit up.
He says I was finished withthat anyway I believe his name
is Richard.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Richard.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
Also, the pints that Mae brings are extremely
well-filled.
There's a little bit ofslopping on the side.
She really wants to make surethat they have their glasses
worth.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Yeah, like more than I would expect.
I mean it's an excellent pour.
It's a better pour than I woulddemand at a bar, because I mean
a little, you know, a littlebit ahead on there, can't talk
like that at work anymore, Keepit moving.
All right, here we go.
But a little bit ahead is fine,but yeah, it's like right to
the top, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
I'm going to have to carry this to my table.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
I'm gonna be slushing all over the place.
I'm gonna spill enough when I'msober.
If I've been drinking, it'seven more so do not set me up
for failure.
I remember when I first learnedto wait tables that you load up
this cocktail tray.
It was like a little circulartray.
You put a bunch of cocktails onit and then I was so.
I was like staring at it likewalking, and I remember one of
the like super veteran waiters.
He was like staring at it likewalking, and I remember one of
the like super veteran waiters.
He was like honey, don't, don'tstare at it, like, don't look
at it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
It's so much worse.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Yeah, it's so much worse.
I was like yeah, and by the endlike you know, a couple of
months later I'm like got two ofthem in my hand twirling around
and you just can feel it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
But those first few times you're like, yeah, it's
like I would.
Yeah, I've shared before.
I bartended it was like youknow, not wasn't like it was a
nightclub.
And I still don't understandhow any of those waitresses made
it from the bar anywhere,anywhere, without just drinks
all over every pictureConstantly getting bumped.

(01:08:37):
It was amazing, I mean truly.
It was amazing to like how didyou make it through a crowd Like
a hundred people between youand that table dancing a damn
summertime?
Like how, how?
It's pretty impressive.
Yeah, I've never done waitstaffand I've always thought I would

(01:08:58):
definitely get fired.
For, like you, have dropped$7,000 worth of food and drink.
Get the fuck out.
So I'm in awe.
It's a skill.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
I was never a waitress when I catered.
The only time I got good atthat was when we would do the
champagne toasts at weddings,and so you would need to bring
out a tray loaded with like 20flutes of champagne to bring to
the tables to hand out to peopleand, as you're walking past,
some asshole would try to grab aglass, even though you had just

(01:09:31):
balanced it perfectly.
You had set that up now the leftside's not yeah yeah, and so I
finally got good enough that Iwould know who it was as I was
walking past and I would grab itmyself to hand to them.
I knew which fucking assholewanted it, and then at least I
was braced for it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
So, like I could, I could do that handoff
motherfuckers trying to grab offthe tray I catered, uh, also
when I was in college and thething that I was always blown
away by and this is just a basiclack of understanding of of
simple spatial phenomenon butwhen you would load, when you'd
pre, you'd set the table right,boss, and then you'd put the,

(01:10:11):
you'd put your um, would you icethe cups first?
Do you ever do like you haveglasses and you fill them full
of ice?
And I'd always like, fill themlike halfway with ice or
whatever.
And my boss was like no, no,fill them all the way up, so
it's coming out the top.
And I'm like how could that?
I don't understand.
That doesn't make.
Then as soon as you put thewater in, it'll all overflow
because it's coming out.
No, no, then you pour the waterin and it all settles down and

(01:10:33):
I'm like that's magic.
Whatever the limitations of mybrain are, I was like, okay, it
seems basic, but I was justalways floored.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
No, no, no.
I know exactly what you'retalking about.
That's why I went like thiswhen you said you did it halfway
.
I was like, because I do.
I was like no, I might as wellgo to the top.
Go to the top.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Yeah, might as well, I'll say I did so poorly in my
high school chemistry class.
The only thing I remember isour teacher telling us water is
the freakest, freakesty,freakest.
Why can't I say this, right?
Freakiest, there we go.

(01:11:16):
Jesus christ, I gotta freakish,freakish, freakiest substance
in the universe because when itgets cold it expands and that
doesn't make any fucking senseto the most brilliant minds
alive.
Like, like, yeah, like theyunderstand why it happens.
They get it, but like why?

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
right, right, right.
Yeah, it's mine.
Mine different.
It wasn't a chemistry class,but I do specifically remember
it's eighth grade science and sowe filled, you know, a beaker,
or whatever the heck it was,with water and then we had to
drop pennies in to see how manypennies you could get in there,

(01:11:50):
whatever, and we were supposedto observe what we saw and it
was my introduction to the ideaof cohesion.
And I gotta tell you, when thatlittle bit of water was above
the lip of the cup but it wasstill not spilling over, like
that was definitely like abuild-eye science guy moment for

(01:12:11):
me.
I was like what the fuck?
I mean it?
just I still remember like Icould take you to the classroom
where it was, because it wassuch a like no, that's not
possible.
What?
And?
Uh, yeah, that's my.
That's my introduction tocohesion.
Like I still remember somewhere, mr devyatkin, you blew my mind

(01:12:35):
to the point where, 40 yearslater, I'm still talking about
your cohesion experiment withthe uh no, no, no, it really
actually we're facebook friends.
I'll tell him.
I'm gonna tell him later yeah,tell him no.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
It's good for newly's principle.
You have two balls hanging froma string and then you blow
between them uh and I don'tthink we're allowed to talk like
that at work.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
You think they're going to go?

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
between balls between the balls and the balls attract
to each other.
No, no, it's just.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
It's like again one of those things you go wait what
what like how and they likecurl up inside the guy and
that's like how did that evenhappen?
That's not the same uhprinciple I don't think
principles were involved at allin what I was doing well, we did

(01:13:27):
.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
We did go see the principal after um, and all
right, so we are back.
Uh, we, we're back.
These scenes are cutting reallyreally fast.
We get that little insert ofMay crumpling up the paper and
then Boss walks us through.
We're back with Keely and Royin the same place.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Just a very, very quick time, cut Quickly.
I just want to highlight theshow.
We've talked about it before,but if they give give you some
up, they're going to give yousome down.
So Keeley, for the most partthis is like top of the world.
Then we cut to Ted and he'sit's bad.
It's bad for the team.
So, like just highlighting that, they do that here in a

(01:14:10):
slightly different way, but theykeep it going yes, no, that's
very true.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
They're, uh, the sweet and the sour they managed
to work in, uh, this scene.
We cut to roy saying we'reopening the champagne.
He says what?
No, I thought we were savingthat for something really,
really special.
And she said.
He says, well, we didn't openit when your mom moved back up
north.
We didn't open it when englandgot zero points in eurovision.

(01:14:36):
We didn't open it when your mommoved back up north.
We didn't open it when Englandgot zero points in Eurovision.
We didn't open it when theneighbor ran over their own
snake.
Oof, that was nasty.
So we're drinking it tonight,duck.
And then they open it.
And as he's pouring she gets anotice, says oh shit, lizzie
just sent over the preview ofthe Vanity Fair article.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Oh shit, they better not abuse the vanity pictures
and be smiling, sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Sorry.
Before we get to the article,though, is that I feel like I'll
start with our house.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
You're saying why is she calling her a duck?

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
The origin of this champagne?
That's funny, I ain't got aproblem with it.
Why is she calling her a duckpaint?
That's funny, I got a problemwith it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Come on now the worst commentary the worst deep dive
ever.
I just don't trust it.
Calling her a waterfowl in themoment of her.
Alright, sorry Coach, that wasso stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
The champagne, though the no, no, the champagne,
though they're not opening thechampagne.
Daphne and I have versions ofthis conversation all the time
where I'm like, save it for what?
What for?
Who is the princess of somefucking country coming through
because, if not, let's drinkthis bottle of fucking wine.

(01:15:54):
And in one time it washilarious because we took this
bottle of wine and we've had.
We went on our trip and we hadthis bottle of wine and no, no,
no, let's save it.
And we took it, and and a bunchof us were getting together for
a meal and we opened thisbottle that we've had forever
and the wine had gone bad and Iwas like see you, see this shit.
I was like our big fancy bottleof wine.

(01:16:17):
I mean, we had other shit todrink, that was the point.
But it was just sort of likedrink the wine.
Like I'm constantly on Daphne'scase, like you don't have to
like not drink the wine, drinkit, it's there, it's good, drink
it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
There's a couple schools of thought on this one
and drink it anyway.
There's a couple, there's acouple schools of thought on
this one, and I love that coachand live in the moment, and why
wait?
And all that stuff is really uhprofound.
Um, I do, I have to admit I doget excited about having
something.
It's not always, I guess, maybeit's a byproduct when you grow
up, like in a.
I think that's a lot of uhhappens.

(01:16:53):
A lot of immigrant families, um,where you have like a formal,
uh, living room that no one cansit in, it's like just for
guests, like so you're.
There's always thisanticipation element right, but
all the the couches have plasticon them to protect them for the
moment that the queen ofengland arrives and you're like,
right, but she's never, youknow, I mean like, and so you go

(01:17:14):
, why?
So sometimes you have backlashagainst that, which is like, why
would you ever do do that?
And then there's the, the otherthing where it's like oh, it is
nice to have something to lookforward to.
So there's a balance there.
One of the things I wrote anarticle one time about how no
one has, um, the, the thing that, uh, you can't.
I did a bunch of bunch ofarticles about this stuff.

(01:17:34):
But, like on craigslist, peopleare given away like hutches.
You know what a hutch they callit they display cabinet for
china.
China cabinet right they callthem different things in
different parts of the countrybecause for by and large, gen x,
uh millennials, gen z have nofucking use to to display uh

(01:17:57):
plateware flat flatware thatthey.
That is not being used likewhat, what?

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
even yeah right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
So there's that there .
You know, part of it is likeappropriate, and then part of it
is like it really really, um,it's hard.
It can be hard to discern whata special moment.
So what is?
What?
Is that Exactly what you'resaying, coach?
Like oh, so this is wine worthy, like this moment, right?
And I think I know in my familywe do a terrible job celebrating

(01:18:28):
wins, to the point where rightaround last christmas we had, we
had put together so manylife-changing victories for our
kids, for all these things, andwe didn't have any time to
celebrate it.
We had.
No, we just like keep, we're inthe grind, we have to keep
moving on.
So we made like a.
I was like listen, we're, youknow, even if it's a small win,

(01:18:50):
even if it's like, oh, this billthat we've been trying to pay,
we finally paid it off, or youknow this, whatever, something
like that like we gotta keeptrack.
So we made this little sort ofyou know, it's like a like a
peer one imports.
I don't know if that even existsanymore, I don't think, but
it's like a big glass jar and wejust write a little slip of
paper and and fold it up andstick it in there.
So if we ever need I love uh,you know wins, we go.

(01:19:14):
Look at, look at like you canvisually see the wind stacking.
And sometimes you go I know Ididn't write that so somebody
else put a win in there and thenyou know, when we have a family
moment or whatever, we open itup.
And now we have our wine worthymoments because we have so many
little things.
But life is so fast and it goesby in such a blink of an eye
that it's like sometimes youjust don't have time to to

(01:19:36):
celebrate.
But that doesn't mean it shouldit should immediately vanish
from from sight.
So so Roy opens this, he opensup the champagne, we get an
insert of him pouring and keepgoing here, boss.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
Oh shit, they better not have used of any of me
smiling.
And then the picture is Keelyby herself looking great.
Obviously she's modeled before.
She knows what she's doing.
Uh, and it says keely joneswoman on top, which I guess they
are allowed to speak that wayat vanity fair.
Uh, she's scrolling through andsays, uh, they didn't use any

(01:20:16):
of the pictures with you in them, and she seems upset.
He seems more concerned aboutwhat she is thinking.
I think.
I don't think that he gives ashit if people don't see him in
the suit, like he doesn't care,but I am sure that she thinks he
should be involved.
So this is sort of a beingconcerned for each other when

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maybe it doesn't need to be.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
I mean she should listen, she should be
celebrating and she's thinkingof him.

Speaker 4 (01:20:44):
Yes, yeah, and she's worried about him not being
present and he's worried.
And he's worried about makingsure yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Yeah, so, but I don't think that's a bad thing for
people to be selfless in thatway, but you also do need to.
At least you should celebrate.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
It's an amazing art that I have a place of
insecurity, of how do I fit inthe picture with you now, ceo,

(01:21:20):
and I literally am not in thepicture.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
I'm not the only one that noticed this Right.
Even the people at Vanity Fairthink I don't fit.
Yeah, they knew before I knew,they knew before I knew that I
don't belong in the picture.
So, um, I think I think thathits and I and I found myself
wondering again.
It's like two steps right.
So that, for me, was what hit.
Then I wondered is keely?

(01:21:45):
She's very perceptive.
She already told him to shuthis pretty mouth.
Is she feeling like, oh shit,this takes, he's really not
gonna shut up?
You know, shut his pretty mouthnow.
Is that part of her reaction oris this just its own pure
reaction to like?
We took all these picturestogether.
Why would you use any of them?
I love him.

(01:22:05):
I want the world to see me withhim.
Like I couldn't quite tell whatshe was doing here.
What do y'all think?

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
I'm gonna let bosses say something, but I I
definitely had a reaction likeoh look, how the patriarchy
weaves its way into this, whereshe should be fucking.
This is her moment.
Like it is a article about herwhere she looks fucking great
and and she's been soconditioned to carry about care
about what the man in her lifethinks that now she's got to

(01:22:31):
waste some of her intellectualcapital or her or you know her
moment to be like.
You know, I'll take care ofthis.
I'm going to call them andthrow my weight around to make
sure that the your, your, youknow your manhood isn't impinged
at all.
I'm like what.
I'm like she should.
Just, you know what I mean.
I'm like like such a uh, itseems so, so, um, relatable.

(01:22:55):
It seemed like, yeah, so thisis what women have to deal with
all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
It fucking sucks I think the only thing about that
is number one.
The photo shoot was pitched asher and roy doing it together,
to some extent at least, ifnothing else, like oh shit, I
asked you to take time out ofyour day to come down to my
photo shoot and get dressed upand do a thing that I know that

(01:23:20):
you don't love that much, andthen they didn't even fucking
use your picture.
Like that sucks.
I'm sorry, but it was framed ina way where it wasn't like they
did a spread on her and thenthey were like oh, they didn't
mention that you're my boyfriend.
They should have.
Like she was concerned aboutbeing in this because it felt
especially exposed and she feltespecially vulnerable.

(01:23:40):
He helped her out with that andthen he wasn't present in that
final product that they had donetogether.
I will say what I took it moreof as was as much as you should
hype your friends up and Itotally agree with that nobody
should wait for their friends tohave to hype them up like if

(01:24:03):
you got a fucking promotion, goout and get yourself a drink or
a piece of cake or whatever itis that you like.
Like.
I think that we are so taughtlike some sort of Puritan thing
where it's like make sure thatyou're humble and don't
celebrate yourself too much anddon't talk up your achievement,
like make sure that the peoplearound you know that you don't

(01:24:24):
think too highly of yourself.
Where it becomes this terriblething.
Where it's like no, you justsold a fucking book, like
fucking celebrate.
Fucking tell people, likecelebrate yourself, man.
So it feels a little bit likethey are so concerned with
making sure that the otherperson is feeling okay that
they're making themselves feelworse.
If she had said shit, theydidn't use your photo, I'm sorry

(01:24:47):
.
You came down there and he waslike no, it was fucking fun and
you look great, I'm fine withthis.
That would be the end of thisconversation.
It seemed more like the backand forth great, I'm fine with
this.
That would be the end of thisconversation.
It seemed more like the backand forth Hints at a larger
issue rather than it being theissue itself.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Really well said yeah .

Speaker 2 (01:25:02):
Yeah, good points by both of you.
He says she's going to call him.
Don't you dare.
You look powerful.
You're fucking gorgeous.
You look like a bilf.
What is a?

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
bilf, a boss I'd like to fornicate with, I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Is that not right?
But boss is the B word.
I mean usually I assumed it wasboss.
Not business person, businessboss.

Speaker 4 (01:25:34):
There are so many ilf jokes at this point that I
don't know.
It's especially wild to me thatthe idea that somebody who had
a child would no longer becomefuckable.
How do you think she ended upthat way in the first place?
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
You never lived until you've had a blowjob from a
senior officer.

Speaker 3 (01:25:54):
I just like somebody wanted to have sex with her
Lieutenant.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
No, you're right, you are correct.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Oh yeah, go on, show me.
Then she says.
And then she hops up and theywalk out of frame.
Well, not before he startswalking upstairs and, lo and
behold, we're back in the crownand anchor.
Tell you what boy.
We're cutting pretty quick here.
Now we're back on Ted, with allthe great stuff.

(01:26:28):
We're going to bring it on downand Coach, walk us through here
with Coach and Beard.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
So this is Beard, so are you going to say anything?
And Ted, in his usualdeflecting way well, I mean
eventually yeah, you may havenoticed through the years I can
be quite loquacious.
And Beard, no, don't do this,not now.
No, to Nate the anonymous sword, let's the o is not like oh,

(01:27:01):
that's what you mean, but morelike oh, we're doing, we're
doing that now.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Huh, you knew, you know too huh, um sorry, no, no,
no, it's a big deal like beard.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
Beard is like yeah, because they haven't done this
yet, yeah yeah.
We both know the truth, so it'ssaid now.
So, wow, what makes you thinkit was Nate?
Ted asks quite unconvincingly,and Beard just looks at him.
He says yeah well, you know myphilosophy when it comes to cats

(01:27:36):
, babies, and apologies, coach,you got to let them come to you.
Beard says that's not going tohappen.
Some people need a little push.
And Ted, that's not the way hegets down.
Yeah well, I ain't pushingnobody.
I think it'll help.
Nate will be fine.
No, it'll help you, coach.

(01:27:56):
You keep trying to hold allthis in.
I'm afraid your mustache isgoing to pop off.
Ted chuckles at that.
I did too.
Oh, then I'll look like thatfella from the Hangover.
Beard says Bradley Cooper, andTed says oh, you're too good to
me, cooper, and uh.

(01:28:19):
Ted says oh, you're too good tome, uh, and.
And then we get beard sayingand I like your mustache.
Um, I thought they had to getthis out.
They had to establish beardnose.
Ted knows, beard knows, tedknows, like all that kind of
stuff yeah um, the bradleycooper joke, though I thought
was was like fun, kind of likeinside.
Just it worked on its own andit had like an inside baseball

(01:28:42):
kind of vibe to me of like them,kind of like, oh, bradley
cooper's a friend of ours andwe're gonna you know, we're
gonna have a little fun here uh,but he was saying like I look
like ed helms, right well, yeah,he certainly.
Yeah, bradley Cooper isdefinitely an upgrade.
It'd be like you know methinking like whoever in a movie
and you going, oh no, I meantDenzel.
Like I'd be like, oh yeah, youknow what I mean.

(01:29:04):
So it kind of had that kind ofdeal to it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
Right, it was fun, right, it's very sweet like for
all the times we bitch about uh,um, beard not stepping up and
not headbutting nate and not, uh, you know, doing all the stuff
that we, you know, are theseguys not reading?
You know the trajectory ofnate's uh, you know, frustration
or whatever.
Beard is pretty active here andI love the look, the look that

(01:29:30):
beard gives ted when ted is likekind of faints, well, how do
you, how do you even know?
And just beard gives him thiswithering look.
It's what boss gives me all thetime.
She's like what, get the fuckover yourself.
Like it's that we both knowwhat the fuck is going on here.

(01:29:50):
You can pretend to do yourlittle fucking song and dance.
Help economy my ass.
But it's that, it's that thing.
And and those are great friendsto have because they check you.
And when we talk about oh no,if you don't have boys, um,
sometimes your boys are or yourgirls and um, it all that
matters is you have people inyour life that'll honestly tell

(01:30:11):
you, uh, when you're full ofshit and I really love that
between a beard and Ted andbeards, not, he's not pulling
any punches, but he's not beinga dick about it he's just like,
especially when Ted's like, ohno, I'm not, I ain't doing that,
and he's like, no, no, I thinkI'll help you, like it's a of
awesome, go ahead, boss so theonly thing that I'll say about

(01:30:35):
that is it can be difficult toalways be beard.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Now, luckily, I've had a lot of good relationships
where I don't need to constantlyplay the beard role.
But we saw in season one wherebeard said I don't want to drink
.
Somebody selfish enough to pickup players feelings over a
coach's duties yeah and now he'sdoing it again, and I'm sure he
will do it once more in seasonthree.
Um, uh, one of my five, themeanest of my five and when I

(01:31:06):
say that I mean that in the bestway.
Like she and I don't lovethings, we don't get sappy, we
are not criers and we love eachother in a way that doesn't make
sense, unless you are such astone cold bitch that only the
power of another stone coldbitch could reach you.
So I sent her a thread theother day.

(01:31:28):
Some women said that she gotstoned and had some thoughts,
and one of them was uh, don'tbother checking on your strong
friends.
They want to die too, but theycan't tell you because you're
such a sensitive bitch.
And I sent it to her and thenshe was like wow, and now it's

(01:31:55):
just like.
Every once in a while, if youare the person that is
consistently strong for anotherperson in your relationship, it
gets to a point where not notjust the exasperation about
being the strong one, but alsoit is difficult sometimes to be
vulnerable and soft and tellpeople about shit that's going
on when you're used to being thestrong one and so I think, like

(01:32:17):
I don't think ted and beardhave a good, a good.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
I don't think it's always beard being beard for ted
.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
I think ted you know also I believe that about the
relationship between jasonsudeikis and brendan hunt 100.
What we are shown on the showis when Beard had his darkest
time, when he was at his worst,he was by himself and he went

(01:32:43):
out alone.
He decided to go out alone, buthe went out alone to shake off
the West Ham game and to getover whatever was happening with
Jane, and Ted didn't help himwith any of that.
So I think that we need to puttheir relationship in the
context that it seems like beardis the person that Ted comes to
and Ted might not necessarilybe the person that beard goes to

(01:33:06):
.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
I think this is worth , very much worth revisiting.
I think you may be highlightinga development.
Um, okay, that's really that's.
I think that's superinteresting.
Um, for those who are goingthrough this, in order, I don't
want to say any more than that,but I think that's really quite

(01:33:34):
interesting that yeah, beard isa tough moment.
It is clearly that's presentedas his crisis of faith, I mean
to the point of literallypraying in front of a cross and
yeah, ted can't take thatparticular journey with him.

Speaker 4 (01:33:54):
And I firmly believe that Ted is giving Beard a lot
of other things and plenty oflove in a bunch of other ways.
But I think, just like beingmindful of, are you consistently
going back to the same personto get your cup refilled and, if
you are, who is filling theircup and are you making sure that
they're taken care of also?

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
I love it, um, I I love that, uh, in your world, um
, the, the understoodcommunicate between you and your
one of your five, who's aquote-unquote stone cold bitch,
is they also want to die, butbut that your life is also is
awesome, as you've related to us, so I like that.
There's the duality there, thatthat that exists inside the.

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
Sometimes you want to die Not always but it's like
every once in a while you'regoing through something at work
and you're like I fucking toldyou, motherfuckers, 18 times
before what this answer was, andthen you want to die.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
And that's my definite.
That's what I was saying.
There's always some otherbullshit coming down the track,
like at work.
That was that's all I would say.
Um, also, whenever you disagreewith coach, you go okay, okay
and then, and then when youdisagree with me, I get like all
caps flaming.
I get gifts it depends on whatyou, I get gifs of people giving
each other finger and hate mailand mail bombs.

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
All you do as a coach is like okay, if you got it as
close to right as coach does,then we wouldn't have to worry
about that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Well, that's impossible.

Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
He looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
Denzel True.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
Very true.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
All right, we're're gonna move over to.
We get a.
We get an establishing shot ofafc richmond um, and we have
keely walking into rebecca'soffice and first thing in the
morning, uh and uh, boss, willyou walk us through this?
Uh, beautiful scene here yeah,of course.

Speaker 4 (01:35:50):
Um, so they walk in.
Keely walks in, she says hi,babe.
And it's just a shot of uhrebecca standing up into frame
in order to indicate herexcitement immediately.
Uh, and keely says verynonchalantly have you got a
second and rebecca says yeah, ofcourse, and then cut to couch

(01:36:12):
Keeley sobbing I am so sorry.
Rebecca says don't be, and sheis also crying it's good, it's
great you helped this pandabecome a lion, Just sobbing on
each other.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
Rebecca, of course, says I am so proud of you I have
to stop you there.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Did you not catch that?

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
That line.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
You hate, that line.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
Wait what?
Does panda become a lion?
I hated that line.
Well, the point I think of theentire show is pandas have a way
to.
Oh, no, no, no yes, like thegoal.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Like, if you're a panda, you are less than and
needed to ever.
The goal is for everybody toget to be alive.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
Thank god you came along and I'm not.
You know, I'm not one of thosepeople anymore.
I, I, just I don't think thestory lions are bad, but neither
do I think pandas are bad.
And I just this line, I waslike no, yeah actually I.

Speaker 4 (01:37:16):
Great point, great, yes, yeah, I.
I think that it is fine, if youconsider yourself currently to
be a panda and want to become alion, that those are like
current state and goals andworking towards that, totally
fine.
But to say across the board,like pandas should become what?
No man also I'm not sure ifI've mentioned it enough around
here but lions themselves I'mtalking about actual male lions

(01:37:41):
Fucking their lives suck.
People don't know this shit,but their lives suck.
They get kicked out of theirown pride.
They have to go take overanother one.
They're sometimes in charge ofthat pride, which means that
they are basically kept around asecurity and like a bang stud
in order to knock up all thelionesses who actually get shit
done.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
And they do that for two years and then they're
kicked out by a younger linelike their lives blow they're
chased out well for the twoyears they're lazy bastards, and
they don't even do the huntingthat's fine, but then they have
to go as outcasts and theyusually pair up with another
outcast lion, yes, and then theyhave to.
You know, if they can, if theycan manage to find a pride where

(01:38:23):
they can kill the male lion andall of his babies, then they
can take over that pride andit's really, it's really it's so
hysterical to me that peoplereference the lion, especially
in regards to like patriarchywithin the United States.

Speaker 4 (01:38:38):
They're like oh, oh yeah, I'm the, I'm a lion, I'm a
big guy like and I'm like itsucks to be a lion.
All the women are like hangingout and fucking hunting together
and forming a community andyour bitch ass is like
constantly watching out for thenext guy who's gonna literally
kill you.
This is this is what you thinkis a good society.
This is what you were hopingfor come on, my, my, uh.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
My dad was in the peace corps in kenya and both my
younger sister and I went tovisit him and she went to visit
him.
And he's a cheap son of a bitchhe was he was frugal, I will
say and so he planned it forthem and she was telling me like
they were in a tent in ambaselinational park and he could hear
the lions like they don't soundlike what you think.
They me like they were in atent in ambuseli national park
and he could hear the lions theydon't sound like what you think

(01:39:23):
they sound like they have thislike huffing kind of thing that
they do with the grub.
But I'm like, wait, you're in atent.
So my dad tried to pull thatshit on me.
He was like okay, my boy.
So my god, it's a tent.
I'm like we are not.
You're not your damn mom.
I'm like we are staying in ahotel and you can still hear the

(01:39:44):
lions, but I still, to this day, my father's passed but I still
, to this day, make fun of mysister.
I'm like that's when you standup and you go.
No, that's crazy, because she'slike we could hear the lions
like 50 meters away.
And you're like are you, areyou like?

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
I just I just need to explain the difference between
your moment with your father onvacation where you're like, no,
we're not doing this, is when hewas in africa with the peace
corps and he wanted you to sleepin a tent next to the lions,
and you were like absolutely not, are we doing that?
Mine was a family vacation toCedar Point, ohio, which is

(01:40:27):
where they have an amusementpark, the name of which I can't
remember anymore.
It might be Cedar Point, Idon't even know.
But we were on in Ohio.
It was me and my four brothersand sisters and my mother, and
because Kathy and I are the sameperson, they were like well,
you need to sleep in.
You're sharing the queen sizebed with Kathy.

(01:40:48):
Obviously, it's the least weirdcombination of all of these.
I was like that's fine, that'sabsolutely fine, that's no
problem.
I hear my mother saying oh no,I forgot my sleeping shorts and
I, I'm like, you're wearingpajama pants, she's like, but I
have shorts that I sleep in sothat I don't get too hot, and
I'm like oh well, you're wearinglike how interested coach
you're, like I've seen thisporno.

(01:41:10):
Um no, this is this is thefucking thing.
I was like okay I was like guesswhat, Tonight you're wearing
pajama pants.
And she was like but I'm goingto be hot.
And I was like I do not care,you have to wear pants if we're
sleeping in a bed together.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
You actually have mentioned this before.
Yes, this rings a bell.
Yeah, oh my fucking God.
Yeah, this rings a bell.

Speaker 4 (01:41:32):
I saw her in the corner like trying to like, very
casually, without anybodynotice, slip her pajama pants
off so that she could get intobed and share a cover with me.
I was like, if you do that, Iam sleeping in the car, I am
putting my foot down.
You absolutely are not allowedto sleep in a bed with me
pantsless.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
That is uncalled for listen, I get it, but I have
sensory issues, so I know likesometimes you're just like oh, I
cannot sleep in trousers, Idon't know she had pajama pants,
I know, but I'm saying pajamapants it's different.
It's different, though it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:42:07):
You can feel it and you're like okay, crap, like and
that would feel morecomfortable to you than sleeping
in bed without pants with yourdaughter.
Well, your underwear yeahunderwear, it's panties on.
I'm leaving.
How old was she at the?

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
time We'll talk about the appropriate age to say
panties.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
Oh, oh, oh oh.
I was 25 years old, I was agrown-up.
This was all of my siblings andI were grown-ups.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
So it's just a you thing really.
It's just like you'reuncomfortable with your own
sexuality and you can't.
That's all.

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
It's not about it's not about sexuality.
It's not about sexuality it isabout.
It is about bare upper thighand how.
That is not a thing that youshould see outside of a swimming
pool well, I I just how do we?

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
how is it that I'm the I'm the where I am.
Yeah, that's where I am.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Wow, I am not the resident prude anymore.
That's all.
The sudden pulse of the humananatomy should not be seen after
6 pm.
That's like when Jack Donaghygoes.

Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
Yeah, what am I?
A farmer.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Exactly yes.

Speaker 4 (01:43:17):
He comes in in a tuxedo.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
That's a great moment .

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
And she's like why are you wearing tuxedos after 6
pm?
What am I, a farmer like?

Speaker 4 (01:43:22):
he's wearing a tux, I just listen.
If being a prude means that Idon't sleep in a bed with my
mother with her pants off, Iwill.
I will take that.
I will fucking own that shitthat's fine, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
It's weird, but it's fine Now, okay, so we have this
love fest here with Keely andRebecca, and boss, keep taking
it away, please.

Speaker 4 (01:43:47):
So as they're hugging , you know the best best friend,
she's so proud of her, so happyfor her, loves her so much gets
an alert on her phone oh shit,ruperpert's just bought west ham
, which of course is a big deallike as her job and also because
of her ex and everything else.
And she specifically says tothink that I thought that he

(01:44:11):
gave me the rest of the team asa kind gesture, because fucking
of course he didn't.
He gave away his owning sharesso they could buy a different
club.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
I didn't see that coming.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
He seemed like he had really turned a corner and was
really nice.

Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
That's funny, but on the plus side, as Rebecca points
out, she is still just slightlyreassured that he is the
conniving bastard she alwaysbelieved him to be.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
Selfish conniving cock.
He is the conniving bastard shealways believed him to be.

Speaker 4 (01:44:42):
Yeah, yeah, at least selfish conniving cock, yeah,
selfish, conniving cock.
You can wake up in the morningknowing that rupert manion will
still be a dick I thought it waskey here that um keely goes
with.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
Yeah, it does return a certain balance to the
universe, doesn't it?
Especially with all the StarWars.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
Yeah.
Oh absolutely, oh wow.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
They definitely stuck that one.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
And then Rebecca clarifies what does she say here
, boss?

Speaker 4 (01:45:11):
She says you absolutely cannot go work for
him.

Speaker 2 (01:45:14):
Yeah, promise me.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
Which is a thing that you, absolutely you wouldn't
even need to promise.
Of course, I'm not going to dothat.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
Well, keely never promises.
She says he can't afford me.
I was like, oh, that's not apromise, that's not any promise
that I've ever made.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
Oh, is that how you took that, oh I took that as
this note.
Oh, I was like oh.
I took that as a note.
No, no, no, no, I'm totallykidding, I'm totally kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
Keely's a real, real shithead.
I think we've established thatshe's very two-faced on this
show.

Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
She's 100% going to betray her best friend,
father-in-law and boyfriend.
Oh gosh, she can't wait to workfor Rupert In order to go work
with a guy who's a total knob.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
No, no, no, no, it was great.
She says he can't afford me.
And what does Rebecca say here,boss, oh, no.
She says Richmond's my footballclub.
You know that you know, that?
Yes, I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:46:05):
And then Rebecca says well, let's see if we get
promoted, Maybe you'll want towork with us.

Speaker 2 (01:46:10):
You might not want to work with us.
You might not want to work withus.

Speaker 3 (01:46:14):
Yeah, you know, I'm just going to toss this in too
because there's the connectionwe've seen with Keeley and
there's a connection we've seenbetween Keeley and I.
Almost just went forward intime.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
Ted Lasso.
Keeley and Ted Lasso.

Speaker 3 (01:46:36):
Yeah, sure, why not Fuck it?
Listen, man, next time we do adeep dive on a series, how about
we go straight through thegoddamn series?
Yes, no, I was gonna.
I was gonna fuck up.
It doesn't even.
I just like pretend none ofthat ever happened.

(01:46:57):
As soon as I started, I waslike wait a minute, that doesn
happened.
As soon as I started, I waslike wait a minute, it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Coach, it's fine.
You saved it, it's perfectlyfine.
Now, this is something thatfrustrates me a little bit.
But, boss, what is the advicethat Rebecca imparts to Keely?
It's not my favorite, butanyway, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:47:20):
It's a bit of advice for being a boss Hire your best
friend.
I don't agree with it either,but I, like I said before, I
don't make work friends.
My sister had to call meEleanor Shellstrup.
Like my, work for me is not asocial thing, work for me is a

(01:47:41):
work thing.
I understand what she wastrying to convey, that she
considers Keely your best friendand wanted to talk about that
closeness.
But in real life, only hireyour best friend if you also
know you could fire her and shewill remain your best friend.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
Wow, wow, god.
That is not the problem.
That's so funny.
That's not the problem.
That's so funny, that's not theproblem I had at all.

Speaker 3 (01:48:01):
When it's it's god, boss, I don't even know what
your take was, because I thoughtyou were going in, that I was
like, well, no, no, no, god, no,are you kidding me, coach?

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
all coach and I ever do is try to work together.
And then we're like oh, here,we made 11, you take it.
No, you take it, no, no, you,you take it, no, no, you take it
.
Oh, I'm gonna fire myself,coach.
No, I'm gonna fire myself.
Like I'm telling you, it dependson the relationship.
But, like, all I ever want todo is work with coach in any

(01:48:36):
capacity, we could be fuckingcleaning closets and we would
have a the time of our lives andwould never have to worry about
, uh, whatever, if I know, boss,you say uh, you know, you're in
the lego movie, so we havenothing to worry about.
There would never be anyaltercation between us.
But I think we both understandthat if there's an altercation,
um, we would both try to takethe high road and then

(01:48:57):
eventually I would manipulatecoach into firing himself.
So I think that's that'sgenerally the way.
Uh, no, no.
But what I didn't like aboutit's like oh, hire your best
friend, we're establishing thatrebecca's her best friend, so
she can't hire rebecca.
So it just feels stupid.
I'm like what?

Speaker 1 (01:49:14):
that's dumb yeah, I mean the line okay, rebecca, you
want to?

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
get hired Like hire your best friend.
Listen, I love this momentbecause you don't see good
relationships between women,although more and more you do,
which is great, which is areally good thing about how far
television has come, and when weRemember when Rebecca looked at
Keely's feet on her couch yeah,in the beginning, right, and

(01:49:38):
now look at where they are andyou're like they're on that
couch that she had her goddamnfeet on that.
Rebecca noticed right and she'soh, you're kind of a scary
woman.
you're very frightening, but Idecided to kind of and it turns
out that's what it took to builda best friendship.
Um, although, you know, it kindof uh, kind of maligns the

(01:49:59):
relationship with.
Sassy, but you know that's fine.
We can have multiple bestfriends.

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
Yeah, best friend is not a person, best friend is a
level.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
Oh right, yes, so you say, so you say yeah.
Oh I like that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:12):
Mindy Kaling came up with that.
I need to give her credit.
Is that right?
As you said it, I was like yes,like not.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
Is that right, as you said it?
I was like yes, not just.
Oh, that's clever, but I agree.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
Yeah, one of my friends called me a dear friend
one time and then we left theperson he introduced me to as a
dear friend.
I said if you call me a dearfriend ever again, the next
thing you'll feel is like you'reself-bleeding.
So just be very careful abouthow you call what you call me.
And I know I'm a very positiveperson, but it's such.

(01:50:50):
It was so gross.
I was like and here's my dearfriend.

Speaker 4 (01:50:52):
I'm like what the fuck?
What just happened?
Who am I?
100% would have made a phonejoke.
This is Orlando Bishop.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
He's my dear 100% would have made a fond joke.
This is Orlando Bishop.
He's my dear friend.
Oh, you would have been a fond.
Oh, yeah, see, thank God youweren't there.
I don't even like hearing that.
You would have done it, justterrible.

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):
Wow, that took me a beat.
That's how bad it is.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
It's ridiculous.
Wow, awful, awful way to live.
Now I'm crying again.
He says and we get a, we get a,we pull out.
We were really tight on themand we pull out, and we we close
on them.
You know, sharing a really nice, warm hug.
It's great, they're both great,it's wonderful.

(01:51:35):
You know, passes the Bechdeltest in a million different ways
, which is, which is good, um,and then we cut to uh, uh
outside, uh and uh of afcrichmond and you got like man,
uh, you're what.
What is happening here on thestreet here, coach?

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
people are streaming in.
We've got a scalper.
I mean this, it's going down.
These are not the uh, these arenot the low points in the
season at all.
We see crown anchor folkspouring in.
We see it in time lapse have weever seen time lapse?
I don't, is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:52:16):
yeah, that's, I mean, look at that look at bat pb and
j walk in, and then we see,okay, it's game.
We're trying to establish gameday but like that, I was like
what is happening, like that's agood point.

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
I didn't give it much thought, but you're right, it's
not.
That is not a device that hasbeen used.
Um, yeah, very much, or at all.
Um, but yeah, so more more.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
Sorry, go ahead no, I feel like we talked about this
on the rapid reaction.
This is a very, uh, veryspecific to you, coach, bishop,
where, um, um, you, uh, oh,maybe we didn't.
Maybe did we not have a rapidreaction for this?
No, then we talked about itsomehow, where this is like a
maybe we just laughed about itin private where, roy, we cut to

(01:53:02):
the locker room Once weestablished it was game day and
now we see everybody in theirkits and are all purdied up and
all gussied up for the big matchand Roy goes and customizes all
of his pump-up language and,coach, like we laughed so hard
at this.
It was so specific, but youreally appreciated it, coach, so

(01:53:25):
walk us through this.
He goes right to Jan Maas andwhat does he say?

Speaker 3 (01:53:30):
So you get out there and you beat him, and then we go
over to Bumber Catch, you smashit, right, you got them, fuck
them.
It's a third play play.
And then we get to jamie.
He says yo, coach.
And then uh, roy freezes andlooks at him and uh, jamie's

(01:53:50):
left to give himself a pound.
Uh, there, and uh, yeah, therewe go.
But it's apparently the wholeRoy forgives, forgave Jamie
thing cannot go as smoothly asmaybe we all would have hoped
yeah, I think there's still somefriction there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
I'm gonna pull the plug here, which is not
something I thought I was gonnado.
I thought I'm gonna go a littlebit longer, but but here's the
reason.
The next scene is gonna be natestaring up at the um pyramid of
success, the john woodenpyramid success, and there's,
it's gonna, it's gonna, it'sgonna take some doing, and I
don't want to, uh, I don't wantto step on coach's toes.

(01:54:39):
I know there's, there's a lothere, um, and it also suggests a
tonal shift.
Uh, at this point in theepisode, um, exactly like when
people are getting up, we haveto also, uh, keep the balance.
So it is ted lasso, so so, uh,understanding that that moment
is coming, let's here and wewill pick that up in part four.

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
Going back into the locker room real quick.
Definitely, having the specificmessage for each player is
great For me.
It reminded me usually it'steams LeBron teams.
Periodically You'll see somevideo where he's doing his
special handshake with alldifferent teammates.

(01:55:24):
I've seen it for teachers, likewith small kids in their class.
They'll have a dedicated or aspecific handshake with each kid
and there's something about it.
It communicates so much.
Something about it.
It communicates so much like ifyou watch a teacher do a
special handshake with each kid.
There's a ton you know aboutwhat's going on in that

(01:55:46):
classroom, right that, like Icould take you through hours and
hours of describing.
I could just show you a 90second video of these handshakes
and you're gonna get and so tome, part of what was like what
is very cool about that is royis gonna coach each player,

(01:56:08):
right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who needs to hear this?
Who needs to hear that?
Like you would never say fuckhim to sam, not because of his
genteel ears, but that fuck himisn't what's gonna to get Sam
ready to do Sam things.
So I just really like thatinsight.
You got to know your players tobe able to pull that off.

(01:56:29):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:56:31):
Absolutely right, I'd like to add, it could also be
used as a punishment, as CaptainHolt did on Brooklyn Nine-Nine.
When Jake Peralta refused toget to the meetings on time,
captain Holt created specializedhandshakes with everybody in
the room and Jake had to sit andwatch.
That's right.
That's a beautiful point.

Speaker 2 (01:56:54):
Andre Brauer, I know.

Speaker 4 (01:56:58):
He knew exactly how to twist the knife.
Jake was so pissed he was goingto die again.

Speaker 3 (01:57:03):
I remember that.
Actually I remember it wasfunny.
It was really funny, AbsolutelyBecause it was so brilliant.
It was such a in itself.
Where are you going to do?
Call HR.
Oh my God, it was torture If hehad beaten Peralta in the front
of that room?
It would not have been nearlyas bad as that.

Speaker 4 (01:57:20):
And so fucking petty to spend that much time with
each individual person just topiss off Peralta.

Speaker 3 (01:57:26):
Just to piss him off, amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
It was funny.
Yeah, it's great.
What a great show.
Okay, we are going to stopthere.
Actually, there's a tiny littlescene with Akufo and Francis
coming in to sit behind Keelyand Rebecca in the owner's box,
which you know you didn't payfor those seats.
The more money you have, themore money, the more freebies
you get.

Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
I know the more shit people give you.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
Yep, unbelievable.
But that's a little thingbefore we see the Nate thing.
That's where we'll pick it upnext time.
Coach, where do people find youif they want to find you?

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
I'm going to keep beating the drum Come join our
community.
We are having some fun in thereVideos getting posted, jokes
being made, folks trying to gettheir hands on video of Coach
having his soul ripped from hisbody by Boss.
It's all great, it's all great.

Speaker 2 (01:58:24):
Come on, in which time?
Yeah, what a terrible featureof my existence, boss.
What about you?

Speaker 4 (01:58:37):
Still on threads at emilychambers.31 and at blue sky
, which is dumbly chambers.
Um, fully admit, it is Apriland the and that means a tax
season in the U?
S which for some reason affectsevery single fucking accountant
, Even when I hate taxes.
I promise I will be more up andaround.
Uh, hit me up, I will respond.

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
Yeah, see that you are.
Um, that's it, folks.
Thank you for joining us forthis trip down memory lane.
We are inverting the pyramid ofsuccess together and we'll be
back with part four next time.
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We really appreciate itactually really helps, because I
feel like over the last couple,there's been enough ones like
some people will put once, likeI just wish I could coach people
about what a one-star review is.

(01:59:41):
So a lot of our one-starreviews are like oh man, I love
these guys and I love everythingand I listened to them for two
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So anyway, one star, I don't I.
Just, you know what I mean, I'mlike I I yeah.
So anyway, one star, you knowwhat I mean, I'm like I I.

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Richmond, richmond Till we die.
Show Panda some motherfuckingrespect.

Speaker 4 (02:00:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
Yeah, you're on mute, sir.

Speaker 4 (02:00:50):
You're just into nothing, into the void.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
You know what's funny ?
That's so weird.
My thing said oh, your mic istemporarily on, and then it
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Yeah, that's a trick arbitrarily?

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you next time.
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