Wayne | S1 Ep7 Part1 "It'll Last Forever" - The Tedcast - A Deep Dive Podcast About The Bear

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Welcome to our Ted Lasso talk, the Tedcast.
Welcome all Greyhound fans,welcome all you sinners from the
dog track and all the AFCRichmond fans around the world.
It's the lasso way around theseparts with Coach, coach and
Boss, without further ado, coachCastleton.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Welcome everybody.
Hello friends, hello beautifulpeople we are.
You're hearing a rapid reactionfrom Coach Bishop after
watching Wayne, episode 7, theLast Forever Coach.
Yeah, I'm your host, coachCastleton, and with me shaking
his head in misery and dying allthroughout the episode, is

(01:47):
Coach Bishop.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I don't have anything particularly clever on this one
.
I'm still.
I'm recovering from quite aroller coaster of emotions there
in episode 7.
Lot went on there in episode 7.
Yeah, that was a lot.
We can start going through it,but holy shit, that was a lot.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
That was a lot.
We start out in Richmond Hilland I guess we end up in
Richmond Hill.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Wait before we say that.
You're undoubtedly noting whowasn't introduced, and so Boss
is a little under the weather,not feeling well today.
So we're going on talking aboutWayne without Boss, but she is

(02:40):
already missed.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, boss texted us not long ago saying hey, listen,
I had a real sharp pain and inmy midsection and you know I
just kept having trouble sitting.
So you know I'm just going totake the day off.
To which Coach Bishop, ofcourse, replied hey, I don't
want a big brother to you, but Ifeel a lot better.

(03:04):
If you know, you checked inwith your doctor or you, you
know, hit an urgent care and Isaid you can only constrain pure
evil for so long.
Come on, man, like like co-autoin in.

(03:26):
Oh shit, what was that movie?
What was that movie, coach?
The Schwarzenegger movie.
Oh, I'm going to have to lookit up.
You are like alien, you know youknow, an extra stressor being
inside of your body can only.
It'll be comfortable for solong before they they want out,
especially if your boss,especially if your boss right,

(03:49):
yeah, no, we boss, we'll missher.
We'll miss her.
It won't be the same withouther.
It'll be happy and joyful andfun there's.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I don't know if I'll be joyful.
This is a dark episode, man,yeah this is okay.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
So this is let's, let's.
Let's jump right in on this.
We're covering Wayne, episodeseven, in the last forever.
It's interesting how, you know,we, when we finished off last
time, coach, if you remember wewere you know we were having a
big fight, a big battle, andBobby, you know, turned around

(04:31):
and took on all the kids andschool and that sort of thing,
and Wayne was sort of in anuncertain position.
He really took it, took a realbeating, yeah, and we know we
can take a punch, we know that,but it seemed like he I don't
know he was hurting after thisone.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Well one of the things actually I like about
this, even in terms of Waynebeing able to take a punch.
I mean, it's not.
Oh, he's the toughest guy inthe land.
You punch him and he doesn'tfeel it.
It's that he decides to absorbthe pain.
I mean, we met him doing that.
So, yeah, he takes, you know,he takes his beating, but he is

(05:08):
not in great shape.
I mean, we talked about thefact that he barely looked like
he could make it over to thebike when they took off.
So it ain't good.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, that was that part was rough and yeah, yeah,
I'm going to pause for onesecond Because oh okay, no, okay
, I'm not going to pause.
I was going to pause for a sec,but I'm going to.
Actually, I'm going to take itin from the beginning.
We, we open up with Reggie.

(05:42):
Of all people, we're in Ocala,florida.
As we open up, we get a.
We get a chiron, we get like asplash of the location and he is
.
He is the process of returninga alligator that he has bought,
named peanut butter.
He has named peanut butter,peanut butter will not eat and

(06:03):
so he goes to return it.
And it's this very.
I'm guessing.
The purpose of the scene was toshow us how violent Reggie is,
unlike most.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
go ahead, coach, you're going to say something
Also dumb and I actually I'mserious about that Like it's
funny that the character is asdumb as he is, but like that is
a particularly dangerouscombination, Somebody who is

(06:39):
dumb and violent, and that is aspecifically dangerous, and so
that he wanted a gator, that hebought a gator, that he then
decided to feed the gator peanutbutter as one.
like all, of it just sounds likethis person shouldn't be in
possession of an alligator.
This, like none of the like.
Everything's bad about thisscenario.

(07:02):
There's just nothing good aboutany of it, yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Yeah, no, no, no, it is, it is.
It's painful.
I think he said feed, did it?
Like yeah, or something likeit's pretty bad.
I will say that I understand thereason behind the scene.
It's one of the very few Waynescenes I don't buy.
And the reason I don't buy itis because the gentleman who
sold him, the alligator, who'slike, do you have a receipt?

(07:28):
No, I don't have receipt.
That's because I don't givereceipts, because I don't take
things back, Right, and he'slike I got to go, I'd like this
for this to be over.
When Reggie rolls up on this guyand gets right in his face, the
guy doesn't back off at all andI was like, okay, I'm reading
the body language and like, isthis where Reggie gets whooping?

(07:51):
Is this where we see, okay,Reggie bit the wrong dog's leg,
kind of thing?
And because the guy did not, hedidn't feel worried about this
at all.
Like I'm like, does he, does hehave a gun on him?
Like what is it that he feelsso confident in being?
Like he matched Reggie's energyto the point where he was like
poking Reggie in the chest withboth, both hands and saying like

(08:12):
I'd like this to be over, andReggie, of course smiles turns
around, and then you know cheapshots of the guy puts him in
some water and screaming at himwhile he's holding him
underwater.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, it's interesting you say I also
thought what I thought was goingto happen was that Reggie was
going to try something right atthe poking in the chest not a
service I offer.
Yeah, I thought Reggie wasgoing to try something and was
going to get fucked up one wayor another.
That's what I thought was goingto happen here.

(08:48):
And then to have Reggie justaside to punch the guy and then
dunk him in that water and seehim like, at least for what we
got to see, that was the end ofit.
Now, for all we know, the nexttime we see these two, my man
will be in possession of ashotgun and we'll feel a lot
different about this.

(09:08):
But as far as how this sceneplayed out, I was surprised he
got away with that.
I also was surprised at a guywho is obviously selling animals
, if not illegally, something inthat direction wouldn't be more
prepared for, you know, someasshole coming up and trying
something.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah right, very good point.
He was not.
He also.
He also he looked like a guru.
He had a long gray ponytailbeads and he's got a huge beard
and he had this kind of kung fuenergy where you're like I don't
know if I want to tangle withthis guy.
And then he just immediatelygot his ass beat by a 17 year
old and like mm, like a realdumb 17 year old, like you know.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, yeah, there was nothing.
Yeah, there was nothing cleverabout any of it.
He just hauls back and punchesthem and so, yeah, I'm I.
Maybe we will get some insightinto that later.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
But when we get back to Jen's house, trish and Jenny
are hammered and they are.
It's such a weird dynamic here.
Dell is trying to help Waynethe couch, he she dumps him on
the couch, you know, just to gethim over there.
She got, she got like her, hisarm around her, just couldn't
even walk in on his own and heis in suffering and in pain.

(10:25):
And the girls in the backgroundare drunk, dancing and having
fun.
And when Dell looks at him shesays like, oh my God, you get
more blotchy.
She pulls up a shirt and shesees that he's got gross color
skin.
Yeah, yeah, gross color skin,the regular color skin.
We got to get through ahospital.
He says no, I can't.
She says well, you know whathappened to my uncle.
He got a splinter and thoughthe could put Neosporin on it and

(10:46):
go back to right, back to beingan asshole.
Kind of a shock that she'd havesomeone in her family that's an
asshole.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, yeah, no definitely.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Okay, you don't imagine that.
And then she says he gets aninfection.
And well, you know what he gotfor it.
And you know, of course,wayne's like what?
What did he get?
She's like dead.
He got fucking dead when we gotto go to hospital.
We can't, there's peoplelooking for us.
So she says to the girls hey,you guys got any ice?
Like Wayne is in, he is in pain, like legit pain, yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
And also she has been around enough violent that she
knows she knows the routine.
Like she's not like, oh, shouldI help you walk?
Like she knows, like how tohelp him walk.
She knows that he needs someice.
She know, you know what I mean.
Like this is not her firstrodeo and it wouldn't be with

(11:39):
Bobby Lucetti and those brothersas her siblings, so you know
what I mean.
So I think part of this too isthis is like a wild excursion
for for our new friends.
Oh, it's crazy.
There was a fight, we won.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
We won that just kind of like oh my God, this is.
This is high excitement.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, this is amazing and and but this is.
You know they're dealing withlife Like.
You know what I mean.
Like this is not entertainingto Dell.
She cares about everybody whohas gotten their ass kicked on
some level and also they'rebeing pursued by the police and
apparently, as far as they'vetraveled, an awful lot of people

(12:21):
know exactly where they are.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Yeah, that's true.
I want to point out what a,what a rare and gracious gift it
is for a young girl Dell's ageto know how to patch up a broken
up white guy.
You know, I mean, like what a,what a wonderful skill set to
bequeath unto a young lady asshe's getting ready for you out
in the world.
You're right that you read her,that she knows what to do.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Oh yeah, no, she's got it.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Right, yeah, she knows what to do.
She feels like, okay, I got it,now I got to take initiative.
She has to take agency, becausethe guy this one happens to be
Wayne, but you have a sense, itcould have been her uncle who
was the asshole, right, I'm sureit was Bobby the shetty, like a
million times.
And the boys you know, carl andTeddy.
I'm sure they've had theirbumps and bruises.

(13:09):
So, yes, once once, once again,white male rage helping helping
everybody out in the community,coach.
And so she asked for ice and.
And then Trish and Jenny don'thave something.
But Jenny says she's gotsomething better.
And what is it, coach?

Speaker 2 (13:26):
She's.
She's got painkillers a bunchof really good shit that our dad
got after his botched postdivorce vasectomy.
There's so much we have learnedabout this father from the pink

(13:47):
suit and the.
You know just the house ingeneral, and the third is the is
.
There's a lot of informationwe're gathering about this.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Guy receives very midlife crisis out, so they just
just look at that, the beautyof that one sentence.
My dad got a bunch of reallygood shit after his botched
right post divorce vasectomy, soyou get the sense.

(14:17):
He got the divorce and was likeyou know what no more fucking
kids.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Really fuck this right, also, I'm going to be
doing a lot of fucking.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, right, of course right, he's gonna be
hitting the town.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh yeah, no, she's.
She's been holding me back.
I'm about to do a ton offucking.
I better get ready.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, no, no, that's true.
That's one of the great truismsof life is there's always a
somebody better out there?
Oh for sure, right, 100%, likealmost a guarantee.
It's pretty much a lot, it's.
There are two great things inthis world.
One is King Arthur flower andthe other one is this certainty

(15:03):
of improving your situationAbsolutely Post divorce.
So anyway, he.
Oh, listen, I don't want tobelittle that I actually had.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I improved significantly after my divorce,
but, but yeah, you use thespirit with which you went back
out into the world.
I think is a little differentthan the word we're describing.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, and I did my vasectomy myself.
So you know there's there's a,there's that, there's a.
There's a funny thing aboutvasectomies that have some
friends who have done them and Ihave not.
I have four kids and, as youknow, as everyone listens knows,
coach, what is your lovely wifesay about me?
That's one baby making fool,Correct.

(15:46):
And so my friends who have hadthem always to a man have said
the same thing, which is Goddamn.
It hurts a lot more than youthink.
Like the healing process issomething, yeah they.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I don't know if it's just, yeah, whatever combination
of pain, tolerance,understanding of the
instructions, slash warnings, Idon't know, but I felt I had
been duped.
I can say you oh, so you havehad it.
Yes, oh, yeah, I have.
I actually have a storytellingpiece on the internet where I

(16:27):
talk about getting my vasectomy.
But, yeah, I definitely feltlike, yeah, I'm going to need
you all to redefine discomfort.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Right, right, comfort .
Well, because they, they'relike oh, it's a day thing,
you're in and out, you know acouple of days you pop a couple
Advil.
Everyone I know has been, likeyou know, on a couch with their
butt in the air, legs over theback going God help me.
Oh Jesus, I'm like yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I've never thought to just put ice anywhere around
there, but into my butt, yeahit's like this is not fun.
What is happening here?
Okay.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
I love it.
So he had his post divorcevasectomy, which was botched.
Which, God man, you don't wishthat on anyone, Nope?
And then they do a thing.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
This may be very uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
I know, I know it did and this is amazing.
I want to talk about why I madeyou uncomfortable, but I want
to say that with all of yourcoaching your real life coaching
, your life coach, your coachpeople, your business coach you
coach everybody All you do iscoach and so I, as I sat
watching you watch this episode,I thought I might only have

(17:54):
this podcast, so I get to watch,to force coach to watch good TV
, and then I sit here and enjoyall the sounds that come out of
you Because, like you reallyhold up the the old stereotype
of like a black eye and movietheater, like I'm never
wondering what what there's noreaction no, no, you're going

(18:17):
not.
God damn why would you do that?
Like, just okay, coach has aquestion about that, but with
this one you're like, no, no,like you're very uncomfortable.
Let's set the scene, Telleverybody what we're watching.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, after she says that she's got the you know the
painkillers or whatever, shegets a pillow out and goes to
put it in and she says I neverthought I'd say this, but put it
in your mouth, which you knowand which is you know that.
But Wayne says I don't takepills or I don't take whatever.

(18:50):
He makes it clear that no, no,thank you, yeah, no drugs for me
, thank you, exactly.
And they go to put it in hismouth and my reaction was like
that, really, I guess there's abasic body autonomy conversation

(19:14):
, right?
Second of all, youmotherfuckers don't know what
the fuck you're doing.
You're a couple drunk teenagers,right?
Like I don't, like I generallywouldn't trust you to understand
exactly how medicine should beadministered, but certainly not
now and then to be forced totake it and then, like it just

(19:36):
all seemed dangerous I guessthat's the word I would use.
It just seemed dangerous to methat you know the way they were
doing it.
I also worried that Wayne notbe like get the fuck off me, I
said, and send them flyingacross the room.
I guess that I think about it,but I was very uncomfortable

(20:00):
with the idea of forcingsomebody to take a pill they
actively told you they didn'twant to take.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's funny.
It was a.
It didn't hit me that way, thesame way it hit you, I think,
because I was too busy laughingabout Dell's joke.
In the middle of it theybasically so Wayne is in pain,
he's, he's reclining on thecorner like the arm or sort of
the side of the couch there, andthey just go right on top of it
Like we know he's in.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Oh yeah, no, his bruised ribs, whatever.
Yeah, they're all like, yeah,leaning on him and he can't move
his arms Like he wasn't pushingthem away because he couldn't
get his arms away from his sidesto the point where he's raising
his chin like a baby or a dog.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Right trying to avoid them getting access to his
mouth.
And Dell says what here?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
coach Guys, maybe we can like wrap it in cheese or
some shit, which I was like ohmy God, that's what you do for a
dog or like a horse.
That's the I'm like it's soMaybe you could put it in a
puppy treat.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
I was like, wow, that is like that's not what you say
about a guy that you consider,you know, your personal Hamlet,
like she's like, oh, he's likebasically an animal, right, you
know.
But she wasn't fazed at allabout she, was like, oh, he
should have this.
Yeah, what's the best way toget it?
To force feed it.
If the roles were reversed andthis is a guy, two guys yeah,

(21:27):
that's stroke.
We would be.
Yeah, you would be out of yourchair.
This would be an outrage.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
No for sure, and I think I actually did have that
thought as well.
Like this, this only doesn'tseem absolutely terrifying
horrifying all the words becauseof the gender dynamic.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
I never thought I'd say this, but I really miss boss
for this drug conversationbecause she would I'm certain
that she would weigh in and saylike, hey, man, like whenever I
want ever, I'm being boss now Iwant everyone to have drugs.
The more drugs the better as faras I'm concerned.
But like you get to pick, yeah,somebody else doesn't like get
to pick for you, that's right.

(22:08):
I think that would be her take,that's right.
I will offer that.
My experience with drugs,limited as I as I admit it is, I
think there are maybe drugsenseis in the world, like I
remember when I wanted to smokeweed for the first time and I
had gotten through and you knowsort of high school where I

(22:31):
think I mentioned my high schoolwas all was one or two things.
There's jocks and druggies andthat's how we split up and I was
like no, I'm a jock, but thejocks were so boring to hang out
with, my God.
So I hung out with the druggiesbut I didn't do drugs, so it
kind of wasn't in fully with thedruggies, but I definitely
wasn't in fully with the jock.
You know, it was just sort ofthis weird nebulous middle
ground.
But I remember when I wanted totry weed for the first time in

(22:55):
college, there was this guy onthe floor and his nickname was
doobage, and so I went todoobage.
He was a good dude and I said,hey, can you kind of walk me
through?
And he's like I'll take a carry.
And then he proceeded to takecare of me like a mother hen and

(23:15):
I don't know if I stoppedsmoking for two straight weeks.
I think I was like yep, let'scontinue this.
And but the whole time he waslike he couldn't.
He told me, okay, like Iremember we were, it was like
the second or third time, youknow I tried it and somebody
came in and gave weed to us andhe was like, oh, listen, make
sure you thank them for smokingyou down.

(23:36):
You know all these different.
And I was like, oh, there'slike this protocol to it.
And like I thought it was likesuper cool.
And I'm like, okay, maybe therewas also a neighbor I had when
I got my wisdom teeth out.
I was suffering.
I had four impacted teeth and Iwas suffering and he was like a
.
He was like a Bobby Luchettikind of guy, but a good guy, the
best guy ever, but but a realhard ass like Boston Tough guy,

(24:01):
right.
Like his idea of a good timewas going and picking a fight,
which I don't, I'll neverunderstand, but he was, he was
great to me and and he said Iwas like, oh man, I'm dying.
I was like sitting by the welive on a lake I was sitting by
the water and I was justsuffering how many of them
progress that they give you?
And I was like I don't know,you know I didn't count him, you

(24:22):
know, but I can take one, youknow half of one every six hours
.
And he laughed and he was like,don't do that guy.
He's like, come here and he satme down at a picnic table.
He gave me two full-purchase.
He's like, take two of thesetwo and drink two beers.
And I was like, okay, I blindlytrusted him and I took two
first out and had two beers andI didn't feel a thing and it was

(24:45):
happy the rest of the day andsat, just kind of sat at the
picnic table looking at the, atthe lake, and it was heaven, and
I'm like he somehow knows that.
Yeah, and even to this day Iwouldn't know, I would still be
nervous, I'd be like, oh I don'tknow, maybe let's just check
the dosages I better get onWebMD.
And he was like.
He was like guy, no, no, no,you're gonna be in pain.

(25:07):
Like, don't let doctors, don'tknow shit.
You know, it's like one ofthose guys I'm like.
So when I saw this I guess Isort of defaulted to thinking
okay, you know what these are.
His, these are Wayne's drugsenseis.
Right, he doesn't want it, buthe needs they know better, he
does need it.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
He needs something.
But yeah, I mean he's, and theycan't go to hospital, like he
said.
They're looking for us.
Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, anyway, I love that you had that reaction,
protective reaction you likereally had it, you were like oh,
no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Physically, like I was cringing and they pry his
mouth open.
They pry Also.
There's the energy of peoplewho are just drunk.
I mean like, because it'sdifferent than high, it's
different than whatever, andthere's that drunk like, they're

(25:59):
still in like woo, find a bone.
You know what I mean?
Yes, and Wayne and Dell are.
If they ever had any of thatenergy going on, they certainly
don't now.
And so there's the like,there's also that difference.
So this is like an extension ofthe good times, kind of in a
weird way for them, like theparty has not ended.

(26:21):
For them, absolutely no, no,god no.
And so, yeah, there's also thatenergy to it.
But yeah, as a rule, kids,let's not force pills down each
other's folks.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yeah, no, that's a good.
That's a good starting premise.
They finally get down Wayne'sthroat.
Jenny says you're going tothank me for those later.
Dell's like Jesus, jenny like,because she's like Wayne's.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, she says good job, or whatever.
Good boy, yeah, good boy.
Packs him on his ribs.
Like a dog.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Oh God she's.
And then on their way out tosignify that the party is still
going on, she says by the way,if you guys want to hook up or
anything, it's totally fine,because I won't hear anything,
because I'll have these giantear muffs on my ears, otherwise

(27:11):
known as Jenny's thighs.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Okay, Like, that answer is mine, Because I know
before.
I was like are they really?
Are they just letting peoplebelieve they are?
So that was like oh, okay, Well, I guess we're a fish.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Let me just make a close my eyes and picture what
that means.
Okay, got it.
So now.
Now it's interesting becauseone of the weird things about
New England.
I talk about how New England'sfull of meanest people in the
world and I've been all over theworld and never seen their like
or are like, as I am one ofthem, sadly.

(27:50):
But the interesting distinctionis as quick to violence and as
loud mouthy and as obnoxious aswe can be, we are still rooted
in the puritanical ethic and sothere is a prudishness and

(28:11):
something about sexualconversations are unacceptable.
So when she says this Dell'slike oh yeah, we're good, thanks
, I think we're good.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah.
Yeah, it was the laughter of,like, the audacity of saying it,
but also like, all right,thanks for telling me there was
a bit of.
I didn't need to know that.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, just not not an acceptable conversation piece.
Yeah it's interesting.
Yeah, you're more likely to heara sexual reference as part of a
threat.
Yeah, and you are right to talkhonestly about like, hey, if

(28:53):
you guys want a little privacy,you know what it would be like.
Oh, oh, jesus Christ, oh good,over here.
Like it's funny, becauseJuliana shared with me this, I
got to look it up.
I'll put it in the communitypage.
It's a woman.
Oh, she's so talented.
She does situations like oh,here's the bridal shower and
here's the.
We're going to the ball gamefor the first time or we're

(29:15):
going to go to, you know, theparent teacher conference.
But she does it changing hervoice every time as women from
different parts of the countryand in very and she's amazing.
I should, I should look her up,but I'll put it on the
community site.
It's really amazing.
She hits it, you know.
So it's like the LA woman.
And then there's the Midwest.

(29:35):
I just sent it in our, in ourgroup text the other day to boss
when she was doing the womanthat was doing that Midwestern
accent.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Oh yeah, total aside, but for some reason Instagram
would not let me get to thatvideo.
I try to choose it.
It would take me to somethingelse.
I was like oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
I hate that.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Why is that happening ?

Speaker 3 (29:58):
The reason I bring her up is whenever she does a
woman from Boston, it's like theperson.
So it'll be like there was onewhere they were getting dressed
up for they're going to awedding and shows what all the
different women wear and theyall approach it differently and
the invariably, whenever shedoes a Boston woman, her
reaction to any woman fromanywhere else in the country

(30:19):
doesn't matter New York, palmBeach, dallas.
She does all these differentcharacters Chicago.
The Boston woman is always likeare you fucking kidding me?
Like everything is this.
You're like oh, my God, it'ssuch a limited scope of you.
Know, it's like you can't putup with you know.

(30:40):
You're like, oh, you fuckingsay like it reminds me of your,
your talk about George Carlinand how everybody on the road is
, either what is it?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
A lunatic or an idiot ?

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yeah Right, If they go slower than you, they're an
idiot.
Clearly, If they're goingfaster than you, they're a
lunatic.
And that's the purview thatpeople from New England look at
the world with.
Like we have a, we have a slutis how we.
We're comfortable inside thisnarrow little path and if you're
anywhere outside of it, likeTrish just, was totally

(31:13):
unacceptable.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah, yeah, it's also there's something and they did
a good job with Trish and Jennyand in creating this, there's a,
there's a way of being as ateenager where you're almost

(31:37):
cosplaying adulthood, right, yes, right.
So like we're so mature that,like we drink alcohol and we
have sex, we're totally grown upand it's very, it's a very
interesting energy and they verymuch have it, whereas Wayne and
Dell really have been forcedinto brands of adulthood in

(32:01):
their like as kids, so theydon't have to play at it.
They don't have, they don'tneed any signifiers that they
can handle things or thatthey're so grown up because,
like, yeah, they're fuckinggrown up, like both of these
human beings only eat becausethey are resourceful.
That's how they eat?

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, that's how they sleep, that's how they move
around.
Yeah, no for sure.
Yeah, yeah, jenny and Trishlove this because it's the most
fun thing that happened inRichmond Hill, south Carolina,
and people will be talking aboutthis for years, you know.
Yeah, so we pivot to.
Wayne falls asleep.
We do a nice.
There's a nice beautiful shotwhere we pull back and watch

(32:47):
Dell, sort of watching Wayne,and then we cut to her waking up
in the in the in the bathroom.
She slept in the tub and whatdoes she wake up?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
here to coach.
She wakes up to Wayne probablya bit close to her face, to be
honest, and he's obviously beenwatching her sleep for some
amount of time, whether it was asecond or an hour, and he says
good morning.
His face isuncharacteristically relaxed is

(33:25):
what I would say and Iimmediately knew where we were
going.
So I'm curious if, when youfirst watched this, you knew
what him covering in the focuswas telling us, because I
immediately was like oh he ishigh.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yes, 100%, they did a great job.
There's an extreme close up,and when I say extreme close up,
usually when you say that yougo oh, it's the top of the head
to the no, no, no, it is chin toforehead.
You don't get that.
Yeah, that's how close we areand it's a wide lens.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, so the depth of field like his shoulder behind
his face is out of focus.
So it's that the depth of field.
Is that Right?
So you really are like boom hisface, yep.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, and she does not pick up on it right away.
No, she's.
Why are you looking at me likethat?
He blinks very slowly, like avery slow blank.
Like what.
And he says like what?
And she says what.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Like you want to roll me up in a fucking rug, which
one is a very funny line, butalso it's sort of it again
speaks to her life experience.
Like that is not what I saw onhis face.
I did not see serial killer orany kind of killer on it.

(34:47):
But like to her, you're beingweird, you're maniac.
Like it's not, like well, it'sa, it's a threat, yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Threat analysis.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Yeah, so it's really interesting.
That's where she goesautomatically, even as a
reference, is like you look likesomeone's going to kill me and
I'm just happy to see, I'm justhappy to see you.
He asked why she's in a tub.
Reasonable question.
I couldn't sleep with Jenny andTrish going at it all night, so

(35:19):
you know that they followedthrough on what they had to say.
I swear.
I think I heard Jenny say shelost her tooth in the middle of
it, which I've shared before isthe kind of joke I never tire of
because it just makes whoever'shearing the joke fill in.

(35:43):
Whatever insanity would happenin your brain, right?
So I think you know what I mean, and so I don't know what
sequence of events could causeone to lose a tooth, or sound
like then losing a tooth, or saysomething similar to I've lost
a tooth.
But whatever it is, it's crazy.
And that captured all the crazyof the night, right there,

(36:06):
right, I saw it.
Anyway, I never bore of that.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
You said out loud, like what the hell does that
mean?
Did I say it yeah?
Right out of you said it outloud.
What the hell does that?

Speaker 2 (36:18):
mean Lost a tooth, yeah, so that's yeah, that's a
very interesting sound here he.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
You know his voice is a little different here too,
coach.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, it's very soft and Anyway, and the intensity
we've always gotten from him.
From the first moment we met himgetting off a bike throwing
rocks through a window.
We've never seen a placidversion of Wayne.
He says you're pretty.
So his guard is totally down.
Now he's saying his thoughts,so that's always interesting.

(36:48):
And then she stops.
What's pretty is what gets herand she goes wait a sec.
And she goes you're high asshit.
And she's kind of a little bitexcited, like it's funny.
Now Like oh, this is theadventure we're on.
Yeah, yeah, your high is fucked, and go back and forth.

(37:10):
So in come Jenny and Trish.
Jenny's dad is here.
Wayne and I love things likethis, where we set things in
motion and it's the complicationis further complicated by the
thing that's already set inmotion.

(37:31):
So Jenny and Trish gave Waynethe drugs.
Wayne is now forced him to dothat.
Wayne is now high.
Now Jenny's dad is home andWayne's reaction because he's
feeling good about everything onGod's green earth is I should

(37:53):
introduce myself, yeah, so herewe go.
So shush, shush, shush.
I should do Wayne do fuckingnot from tell.
He says don't open the door.
He does open the door.
She says I'm putting in atampon.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Right, she tries to get to buy time, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
So she's mad out of a room I'm putting in a tampon is
pretty foolproof.
So she says don't open the door.
Of course he does open the door.
So this man gets to see a boywith no pants on in his wedding
shirt next to his daughter who'sfacing away from him pulling

(38:38):
her pants up, and she haspanties on.
So let's meet dad.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
This is ideal.
It's a subjective point of viewfrom the dad, because the
camera's actually tilted down.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
We don't need to, we don't need to.
We just see the heads or faces.
Yeah, this is all abouteveryone's in underwear is
basically the message of thisshot.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
And then what happened to?

Speaker 2 (39:00):
you All right.
So, sir, I'm Wayne.
It's an honor.
He reaches out and he's so high, like his depth perception, or
whatever is no good.
His hand hits the man's chestso and dad immediately like
chuckles and smiles andimmediately I realized he's just

(39:23):
happy, it's a boy.
Yes, well, hey young man, likeI could, I thought for a minute
like oh, this guy's gonna go gethis gun.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
And well, that's the natural right.
If he's a popular Chetty, we'rein trouble Right.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Right, we got a problem.
So well, you must be Jenny'sboy.
Relief, relief, relief.
Look at Jenny Like boy.
This is bad, she's processing,yeah, and then he says it.
So if there's any doubt as towhat just is what is transpiring
here, you're a boy and you justsee the relief.
Jenny's dad laughs.

(39:59):
And then we were thanks forletting me stay here in your
really nice home.
We're still on the rails,though he clearly did not let
him stay there, although, if I'mbeing honest, I went upstairs
in the nighttime and ate a bunchof your sandwich meats, and for
that I'm sorry.
He's like oh God, please, nofilter, please stop talking,

(40:24):
stop talking, yeah, please stoptalking.
And he says oh.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Wait for those people who don't know, who aren't
watching along with us.
Dell and Trish are hiding inthe corner.
There's nobody.
It's like a bathroom, andthey're hiding behind the shelf.
So the only people that at thispoint, that the dad can see are
Wayne and Jen.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah, they're barely being blocked.
I mean, if the man really justsort of looked around and he'd
see them.
But they're not, just they'rehuddled.
Trish has got her arm aroundDell, dell's holding onto that
arm.
Trish's other hand is on top ofDell's.
I mean they look like you knowthey are afraid.

(41:08):
It's not just hiding, it is, ohdear God, right.
So, dad, lunch meats I couldgive a shit about.
Oh no, no, think nothing of it.
I want to thank you for takingmy daughter to the dance.
It is morning, yeah, so whoa, Imean, you're welcome here.

(41:29):
He is so happy right now thatthere's some heterosexuality
going on that nothing, literallynothing else matters, right?
He's basically just saidanytime you want to come by and
screw my child, you feel?
Free yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Basically the message here and we talk about how
Trish and Jenny are, you know,sort of role-playing, cosplaying
adulthood.
Jenny, this is not aconversation she wants to have
right away.
When she sees half your dad,she puts her arm, her hand on
Wayne, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
She's like rubbing his shoulder.
She's like, oh yeah, that'sright.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
This is totally my guy.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Can't wait to get some more sex from him.
Yep.
And then, oh no sir, this isWayne.
Oh no sir, your daughter andthe lesbian girlfriend friend
Not only says that, but helooked over to the hiding spot
as they went to the dance to thegather, cos they're lesbians.

(42:30):
In case you didn't catch thatin the first part of the
sentence, I went with my friendDel.
Dad has been gut punched.
And then Wayne finishes up Iwant my friend Del.
We're not lesbians, but anyex-hails.
Yeah, it was an honor, sir, andno one's in trouble because dad

(42:51):
is too crushed.
Dad is too crushed by the factthat wait, your penis wasn't in
my daughter.
That means she actually is thelesbian I feared she was.
And dad just drifts backupstairs, crestfallen, and
that's the end of that Amazingscene.

(43:11):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
I mean James Madge plays Jenny's dad.
He does such a good job ofgoing from delight to.
He doesn't even say bye toWayne Once he hears him, it's
like he's in a coma.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Oh yeah, because it's all his fears realized.
Right, he is terrible as that,whatever we can get in that
conversation.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
Well, no, I want to say, we don't want to make light
of this, because this is abrutal situation.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and people suffer within
all the time.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yes, yes, but you know I love that Jenny's like
sell it, sell it, oh God, wemight get out of this and then
we cut.
So we cut to Dell and Trishsort of untangling, but also
like what the fuck just happenedand we cut back to.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Trish bangs her head against the closet door.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
We are so busted like no more sleepovers for us.
And then we cut back to a shotof placid faced Wayne, still
sort of gazing to where dad was,and Jenny says, did you just
out me to my fucking dad?
Which again is not funny in areal world way, but was funny in

(44:32):
the context of the show.
Anyway, part of why it wasfunny for me was everyone had a
hand in making this happen theway it happened.
Yeah Right, so it's sort ofjust chaos.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Well, again we're not saying like, oh, she deserved
to be outed to her fatherbecause she gave him drugs.
But it started off a sequence ofevents that this show
particularly does a good job ofmaking comical.
So we switched over to nowwe're in the hospital.

(45:10):
We get a shot of the show.
It's like a Mexican soap operathat is playing up on the screen
.
It's one of those rooms wherethere's a shared room with a
curtain in the middle but one TV.
So we start on this Hispanicfamily that looks like the dad

(45:33):
is in bed and there's a lot offamily and friends around him,
including a little girl, whichis significant.
Yeah, beautiful little girl andthe family, the countenance, the
faces of the people around thedebt.
They're all happy, they're allnice, they're all friendly,
right.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Lot of love there.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Lot of love, lot of love and we talk about how the
show just casually mixesdiversity and it's like, yeah,
okay, this is.
You have this very interestingcommentary, because we have this
happy Hispanic family and thenthe camera.
We do a little track trackingshot or dolly shot over to the

(46:15):
other side of the curtain, thewrong side of the tracks, as it
were, where you got three Trumpvoters.
I mean, it's like the thing is,sean Simmons is white, but if
he wasn't, the depiction of thisfamily would be like a war
crime, because you're like youknow what I mean?

(46:36):
You're just like, oh my God,these are the most disgusting
white people, they are, they'reterrible.
I mean, they are Bobby Luchettiis he is.
He is like if filth could talk.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Oh no, it's horrible.
It's each sentence moredeplorable, more disgusting than
the last.
It's unbelievable.
He is a utter contemptiblegutter trash, so he's trying to
figure out what's going on inthis show and he asked what the
Horry one said.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Like, just like he's not even angry right now.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
This is just how he talks in life.
Horry is like a word.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Yeah, the Horry one with the mustache in the hat.
And then the boys, the boysclean it up for, or clear it up
for him.
And what do they?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
say.
They said the old white ballfuck will always have our heart.
That's nice.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
This is good.
Yeah, that's nice.
This is a good family bondingLike watching a Disney movie.
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
I'll bet she's banging that guy with the boat.
I don't know what this story is, but this telling of it is
unbelievable.
And so, yes, we are in thehospital.
Bobby Luchetti is definitelyworse for wear, as they say His
forehead stitches right, cheekstitches left, eyebrow bandage

(48:02):
over nose bandage wrapped aroundhead in a way that's almost
like three Stooges brand of youknow in the hospital, and the
arm is wrapped up as well.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
So probably some stuff going on there.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
He's a mess.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
He's not that far, Like if you said, hey, let's do
a film where a dead person comesback to life.
He's not that far.
No, he's a hop skip and a jump.
He's got veins showing in hisface.
Yeah, reanimated.
Yeah yeah, yeah, he isrepugnant to look at and Dean

(48:40):
Winters is a handsome man, sothey did a nice job.
You know?
these are all the most fun rolesto play.
Yeah, exactly, they're all themost fun roles to play when you
get to be this unbridled.
And there's this old adage infilm industry like the guys that
play the worst people areusually the best people.

(49:01):
Right, right, right.
And the guys that play the bestpeople are usually the worst
people.
And I was trying to thinkthrough that and I was like,
yeah, you know a lot of truth in.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
that Makes sense.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
So also a commentary on lest we forget how good the
writing is.
I bet she's banging that guywith the boat.
The perspective of victimhoodthat is pervasive with the
luchettis, you know, likesomeone's always out to get you
always something.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Right right, right right.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Nothing can just be straight up.
Someone's always out to get youand you're a fool if you're not
suspicious of everyone andeverything.
So yeah, he says what's thenext one here?
The?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
fucking rack on her, though, right, and I mean full
voice doesn't even capture howthey're talking and they very
much are aware of these peopleright next to them.
So again, just one.
You're talking to your sons and, like you know, my son is an
adult.
But I don't envision any timereally ever, but certainly not

(50:08):
now that I'm going to turn to myson and talking about some
woman, say the fucking rack onher, though, right, like what?
What is this?
This is this, but this is howthey live Anyway yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Well, it's right.
In the way person handbook youjust got, a projectification of
women is page page 11.
And so it's so.
It is so brutal, but the boysreact in tandem by doing what
coach?

Speaker 2 (50:38):
They both put their hands like in front of their
chest, like to pantomime breasts, as one does, and right off of
that we have Geller and J walkin and Bobby, of course, is a
charmer and says oh, jesusChrist, what was it?

(51:00):
What do you call them?
These two bozos, miss Lucia?
These fucking knob jobs arebozos would have been way too
clean.
No, no, no, no jobs.
Let me guess the two of youjumped in your, into your smart
car, right which is funnybecause he would hate smart cars
and then you drove down here asfast as you could, just to tell

(51:22):
me that you didn't find mydaughter again, right?
He's then corrected Uh, go, letthem know, nissan Leaf's are,
which I laughed out loud becauseI don't think that that
clarification is going to changehow Bobby sees all of this.
But okay, at least we clarifiedit.

(51:42):
He says, and Bobby says what?
And he goes is that a car?
That's a car, he asks his kids.
It's a fucking ferry, car forfucking ferries.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Is there a car?

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Yeah, car also is that too, I mean Jesus Right.
Have they said anything thatwasn't offensive?
They?

Speaker 3 (52:06):
are I mean this is what I'm saying the
representation of this family ofwhite people is they are.
So they are just crude and justunabashedly offensive.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Everything that comes out of their mouth is offending
someone, I mean my God, so yeah, so it's a fucking ferry car
for fucking ferries.
Okay, so we go in.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
You love this line.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
This killed me.
If 151 miles per battery chargemakes me a ferry, then fit me
for a pair of wings.
So that broke me.
I laughed.
It wasn't just like, oh, I'mtaking in the show, we're going

(52:59):
to discuss this.
That broke me.
That he was like yeah, 151miles per charge sound like
something.
A ferry with that, I mean, itwas great.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Well, I'm like how are these people both from
Brockton, you know it's like,these are both like, even in
jest, the response from Carl andTeddy is like yeah, no, that
doesn't.
First of all, I don'tunderstand what you said.
One Fit me for a pair of wings,like I don't even understand
what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
I think you're okay with it.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
And that makes you a ferry.
And they're not.
Look at the disapproving.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
look Well, no one would ever embrace being called
a ferry.
Like they can't even processlike where do you go next with
this conversation?
What's great, though, is allfrom there.
Looks to each other like whatis very juicy.
Is Jay looking at them like Idon't get it either and shaking
his head?

Speaker 3 (53:59):
That was my favorite part of it.
Coach made me rewind becauseJay, just Jay's also.
Like I don't know man, like Idon't.
That's not the response I wouldhave given either.
Like I don't get this guy.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
But so far we go.
Go now and following up on lastnight's events, when you was
savaged by the school childrenWhoa, whoa, whoa, you know what?
Slow your fucking roll ginger.
Now, I think it's great thatBobby Luchetti is definitely
going to have to set the recordstraight, because there's no

(54:37):
getting around the fact thatthere was a fight.
He was in a fight, there weresome high schoolers in the fight
and somebody's in a hospitalbed, and it ain't none of the
teenagers.
So we got to, we got to figureout how we're going to tell this
story.
So there was like 50 of thoselittle fucking shits running.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
Well, it's a slow your roll ginger, yeah, which is
great, he can't even like sayhold on a second without
offending.
Yeah, yeah, no, he's got itbecause he's got red hair and
and that actually weirdly whichwe, which you don't see very
often that there was an insertshot of Geller reacting to that,

(55:17):
where he was like like rightthere, that one moment where
he's like really didn't like,didn't like that like, didn't
like that one.
He's been called a lot by BobbyLuchetti but I don't think he
like, I think he like ginger,the least weird, and he says
nobody beat me up, what does hesay here, coach it was like 50
of those little fucking shitsrunning all over the place which

(55:39):
you know.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Okay, like little people, but not that type of
little.
I love.
We're going to clean that upnow.
That's what we're going toclean up, but okay.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Yeah right, yeah, still very, very powerful.
Not very big, but powerful inlarge numbers.
Teddy adds.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
And Bobby says what here?
You know, I blame you for this.
This is your fucking fault,right, yeah?
And then that's, that's great,I've known guys in at least the
direction of a Bobby Luchetti,and I blame you.
That's like a thing, like tosay to somebody I blame you,
like some shit's going down andit's like it's the like if you

(56:29):
had never blah, blah, blah, noneof this shit would have ever
happened.
It's built into I blame you.
And so, daddy, you were right,the hat lady is begging the guy
in the boat.
So we're back to gazing.
We're in a conversation, but Igot to catch you up on what's
going on in the Spanish movie,with misunderstanding and then
unbelievable, and then he, thenBobby's, got to take control.

(56:51):
So you go down into the hallwayand you find that fucking nurse
lady with the goddamn sideburns Sideburns, what and find
me some fucking morphine and youget it.
Now, the both of you, and then,of course, these two idiots
both try to move theirwheelchairs at the same time, so
they're tangled and not able tomove.

(57:13):
Get the fuck out of thatwheelchair.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Bobby says but they're in wheelchairs, not
cause they're injured, justcause they took the place to sit
.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Yeah, there's a place for them each to sit and I'm
all right, I'm going geez.
All right, Mr Luceti Geller,listen to me, you fucking
British dipshit which now I'mjust like what is happening.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
That one was the one for me that that felt like a
fine wine.
That because he is likemoderately articulate he's got
to be British like what?
Just cause he doesn't speak,every third word is not fuck you
fucking.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
British dipshit.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
So okay, listen to me , you fucking British dipshit.
I love that.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
And then Jay asks Jay , is really like trying to keep
you British, which that may be.
Laugh.
If you, bobby, if you're doneyour job, I wouldn't be tracking
my kidnapped daughter all overthe goddamn country.
Excuse me, I'm sitting in afucking hospital bed.
Geller, now pipe down.

(58:18):
All right, if you want to findyour daughter.
Sharing information is onlygoing to work to your advantage.
Yeah, I have to hold on asecond here, though, because,
bobby, he has a fascinating likeI'm actually serious about this
he has a fascinating way ofprocessing what's going on,

(58:39):
right Cause all the insanity hedoes he's got to do, cause the
rest of you are fucking up, yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Oh yeah, he's the only one that's got a line on
anything.
That understands the goddamnthing.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Everybody's an idiot, yep, and he like that.
He that his take on why Dellran off with a boy she'd met 15
minutes earlier and all of this,and why he's missing part of
his nose and why he got the shitkicked out of him and why he's
in this hospital bed and all thethings is that they fucked up

(59:13):
because they couldn't find Dellin time, like that's.
That's some total of what'sgoing on here, yep Wow,
everything wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
would be totally fine if the government didn't take
so much of my money, coach.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
There you go, there you go, and so, all right, we
should share the information.
So there are people next door,you know, living their lives,
being a loving family, but Bobbydefinitely clocks it All right.
Okay, yeah, all right, comehere.
So he leans in Geller.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Lee, were you worried about violence here at all?
I did, I was.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
I thought he was going to like bite him or do
something really insane yeah,because what condition to expect
violence?
Yeah, I was scared here.
And then tell you what you canstart your job by filing through
and checking out how many.
So he starts screaming now howmany visitors you're allowed to
have in this fucking hospital,because I'm pretty sure it's not

(01:00:06):
fucking 12.
Now there are five people thereand I'm sure they're not
allowed to have five people, butsweet Jesus man.
So we've got covering of thelittle girl's ears by what I'm
assuming is our mom or somewoman in the family.
One of the guys turds with hisface completely crinkled, like

(01:00:28):
what is happening, and then wecut to Jay who says damn, he
went the other way with that one.
Not that what, like?
There's such chaos in this show, it's just chaos.
Let me know what it's happenedand then but he did, he did, he
really did.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
I was like you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
I didn't see that coming and let me know if you
think of anything helpful.
Mr Luchetti Geller trying tomaintain some level of decency,
Somebody in this fucking whiteshit box?
Oh, wait, wait, but what?

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
is it?
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
Why don't you go fuck yourself, as one says?
That's what he says to the popA dude.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Yeah, yeah, I've been your fun farewell in Luchetti
style.
Yeah, why don't you go fuckyourself?
Fuck yourself, okay.
The guy has driven to SouthCarolina.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
To try to find his child.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
His child that he drove out, because he's an
absolute psychopath and yeah,the thanks he gets is yeah, why
don't you go fuck yourself?
Okay, so, yeah, so that fromsome fucking white shit box Get

(01:01:37):
me some fucking drugs or afucking drink, something, and
it's just so after they go,after they go around the corner,
we're hearing Bobby as if wecan hear him clear as day when
we're in, we're over by thereception desk.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Yeah, and he's like he's in some rooms away.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Yeah, he starts, he starts.
They don't have the subtitleson here.
Yeah, but he says we're inGeorgia or we're in in South
Carolina or whatever RichmondHill yeah.
So, Georgia, and and he says,you know, somebody should be
able to get me some crack, crack.
What the fuck he's like,because, on top of being clearly

(01:02:24):
, he's with having withdrawalsfrom he's not in a good way.
He's not in a good way.
He chooses to also be just like, just straight up racist while
he's at it, which is alwaysreally nice.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
So, yeah, so he's shouting, shouting, shouting.
We go over to the nursesstation.
You know they, they, theycomment on.
You know what a lovely guy heis.
Gala says I've seen worse weget.
What's the status of hisinjuries?
A couple of broken bones,collapsed lung, not clinging to

(01:02:56):
life or anything.
So you know, not great, buthe'll be fine.
At least he's from out of town.
I don't have to put up with anyvisitors.
A lot of times the only peoplewho visit assholes are other
assholes, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Makes sense.
And you made, you made noise atthat line.
You're like huh, yeah, thatmakes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Like, yeah, it felt like two things to me the writer
and me because we're looking atthe way we are said that that
line's there for a reason.
So, okay, like I was likethat's a very specific choice to
make for that nurse to say that.
But also, just thinking aboutit, there is like a birds of a
feather kind of thing, like Iremember being told like you are

(01:03:35):
the average of the five peopleyou spend the most time with,
and while that may not beexactly true, like a lot of
things in life, it's enough of arule that I think you can start
there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
And so we spend a lot of time with boss coach.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
That's not a lot.
I would describe as bringing upmy average.
I think you might describe asbringing down your every brain
down everybody's average.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
My apologies to all of you who listen to this.
You're spending a lot of timewith us and we can only be
lowering your curve but but,yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
So I thought okay, yeah, that makes sense, let's
see how this plays out.
And you see that hit Geller too, and so has anybody come to see
him since he's been here, notthat she's seen.
And Geller keeps thinking, andnow he's got an idea.
All right, thanks guys.
Meanwhile, jay has grabbed atray with some hospital soup and

(01:04:35):
is you know, of course, got togot to make sure his couple is a
following.
So he's got this cup.
You know his cup of soup there,copper soup.
Excuse me, so I'm about to makea star out of this.
Chicken and stars soup, Really.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
And Geller says I don't know.
I know I laughed out loud atthat.
I definitely reacted to thatLike Geller's.
Like what?
So it's great?
Like everybody's crazy isratcheting up here and like it's
causing all the misfires.
Like why are you still payingattention to this crazy detail

(01:05:18):
of his goofy soup?
And Geller still doing thiswild goose chase?
And Bobby is down the hallwayscreaming at the top of his
lungs about all the drugs hewants to mighty bring him.
So but Geller continues on hispath.
Your father, where you told meyou two didn't exactly have the

(01:05:40):
best for you.
How you said it.
You told me you two didn'texactly have the most smooth
sailing relationship.
There you go, my pops.
You could definitely say thatif he wasn't beaten on me, he
was beaten on my sisters.
Son of a bitch was mean all theway to his grave.
So no love loss there.
I love him.

(01:06:00):
He was a pain in the ass but Istill miss him every fucking day
.
We put process that.
He's still my pops.
Geller's still processing andhe turns and we move in a little
bit as Claire is thinking andhe turns to the cop who was at
the nurse's station.
Hey, sarge, you got a moment.
So, whatever, whatever was wasbrewing is coming together and

(01:06:22):
he's ready to enlist Sarge withwith this.
We cut to a high angle shot,looking down at a King Conan
comic book, what appears to be ajug, a liter or so of orange
juice and a 25 cent bag ofsnacks.

(01:06:43):
Looks like pretzels, butthere's something else in there.
But at any rate, breakfastchampions.
We cut to behind the counter.
Wayne's there counting money.
It's Wayne shopping and Dellpops up from under the counter
with a long licorice which he isinterested in buying, plops

(01:07:05):
that down.
Come on, this licorice is huge,it'll last forever.
She's definitely selling him onthe idea.
I don't think it's got good foryou, stuff in it like vitamins
and all that.
So he's trying.
He at least thinks they shouldbe doing it like orange juice
and pretzels.
So that takes a turn and we cansee the woman behind the

(01:07:27):
counter is like what is thisconversation?
Yeah, what's happening?
Yeah, pretzels don't gotvitamins.
I'm pretty sure they do.
Wayne responds to which Dellsays right, pretzel vitamins,
because she's just always smartass.
And then she takes the licoricewhich she's now draped around

(01:07:48):
her neck, plops it down on topof the Conan comic.
No big licorice, I got a pisswicked you pick, so she's done.
She's done her selling job.
It's up to.
A lady behind the counterprobably doesn't hear people
talk about pissing wicked on aregular basis, not every day.
No, she seems to react to thatlovely language.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
And that was I have not heard that.
I will say I've not heard.
Oh really, I'd say wicked bad.
I would hear I'm not.
I would say I'm not a somebodywho uses wicked all the time.
But but I've heard wicked.
I got a piss wicked bag.
I got a piss wicked hat.
I got a piss wicked something.
I've never heard I got a pisswicked.
That I've never heard.
I got a wicked as a standalonemeasure of the amount of yeah.

(01:08:34):
Yeah, it's mostly like it meansyou know tremendously of
something.
Yeah, okay.
By the way, the, the.
There's no lines for the, forthe clerk, but she's got amazing
facial expressions and she,just she like, looks at their
stuff.
They literally had herstandstill, look at the items

(01:08:56):
and look back up at them andthat was enough.
And, like she, she conveyeddisbelief and like you're, like
that is I mean, that's just goodacting, it's just it's
excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
I'm with her cause I'm like yeah, oh no, you're,
you're right, this is bonkers.
What the hell's going on here?
And then finally but I expectthis is Dell but I expect you to
have big pretzel vitaminmuscles when I come back.
So she's just like pretzelvitamins.
Get the fuck out of here.
Give me a break, I'll take thisand the rest in gas.
He puts aside the comic and thelicorice and keeps the pretzels

(01:09:31):
and the orange juice Very.
Take the cannolis.
And then we have the TV.
Police are trying to understandwhy a group of teenagers from a
local high school transformedinto a violent angry mob,
leaving one Boston man clingingto life.

(01:09:53):
Now, it's interesting becausewe just heard that he was very
much not clinging to life.
No, he was still ruiningeverybody else's life coach and
then we have our serge.
We don't have all the detailsas to what role the victim one,
bobby Luchetti, played in theincident, but we are looking for

(01:10:15):
thoughts and prayers because,well, it could go either way.
So we're being convinced thatthis could go poorly.
So there are unconfirmedreports of two other victims who
were also, and we get thelicorice being slid into what's
going to be purchased and Waynesays I'll also take the licorice

(01:10:36):
cut to Dell coming out of adisgusting gas station bathroom
Someone who's been in one knowsit could be disgusting beyond
anything that any of us wants todiscuss Jesus, it smells like
everything died in there, whichis great, not something.

(01:10:57):
Everything died in there andwe've got licorice.
What's this Licorice?
Okay, so we're on the bike.
We're ready to go.
I know, but why?
He says you wanted it.
So she says huh, you are agentleman, so we're having a

(01:11:18):
little fun.
You did this for me.
Isn't this sweet and cute?
You got me the sweet candy Iwanted.
She gets on the back of thebike.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
He's ready to pull off.
Now wait, a second Coach.
I saw this as a real like hedodged a bullet here because she
did not expect him to get thelicorice Right.
But she has enough of a lock onhim that she thought you know
what, he's not going to get thatlicorice.
But she was very pleasant.
She came out, she was veryBoston.
She was very disgusted and assoon as she saw it there was a

(01:11:47):
gift for her.
She was like huh, yeah, like atone, change her voice, change
her physicality, change.
You are a gentleman Like wow,deep down in there, like
something clicked Right.
And we're like I was like, ohcrap, nothing clicked.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
He really would have gotten rid of the licorice, but
yeah, so you see, you go infront of the bike so you can see
Wayne's face.
You see Dell, you know, overhis shoulder with the helmet on
and you can see him weighing.
I should say something.
And she asks we going?

(01:12:22):
He starts the engine to go.
They go maybe two yards.
I wish pointy stops.
She asks is that all two bucksgets you being funny?
That's a good joke, it's a good.
It's a good joke, that's goodyeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
Is that all two bucks gets you like 10 feet or
whatever.
I was with her, I was like okay.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
And then he's looking , she's trying to figure out
what's going on, and so what?
And finally he says your dad'sin the hospital.
How do you know?
She asks.
I saw him on the news in thestore.
It must be real bad, I guess.
They're asking people to prayand stuff.

(01:13:02):
So and we now, tied on musicstarts, we're now tied on Dell.
Fuck them, that's strong.
Yeah, that's the first reactionis fuck them, fuck them Right,
Like he and you know, in a way,he she's Bobby's, she's Bobby's
child in that moment.

(01:13:22):
That's right.
Right.
I just like that's what heraised her to be.
Music's still going all right.
And he said I got to saygoodbye to my dad.
I'm just thinking it might begood, you know, for you.
You know I'm not saying thathe's well, you know he might be.
And what I love about thatpiece of dialogue is he says

(01:13:44):
absolutely nothing and he sayseverything with it.
Yeah, he says you didn't get tosay goodbye to your mother and
I know that was a big deal.
I know what it was to lose myfather.
You may be losing your fatherand I know he was Bobby Luchetti
, but he was still your fatherand you might want to go say
goodbye.
I mean, like he doesn't say anyof that, but he says all of

(01:14:08):
that, plus I care about you,yeah, within the context of all
that rambling.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
It's not my call to make.
I can't just drive on andpretend like now that I have
this information.
It's got to be up to you andyou know.
I want to point out that.
Just you know the tremendousacting by Sarah Bravo here,
where she absorbs this andprocesses it.
She doesn't say a word After.
She says fuck him, it's allWayne doing the talking, and the

(01:14:40):
facial expressions, how she'sprocessing this.
She locks up her jaw, she's youknow.
It's just really interestinghow she processes that excellent
acting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
I have to say right here, I thought they were going
to leave.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Oh really.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
I thought they might leave.
I didn't know what then, but Ithought that she might.
I felt that she might decidelook, what's done is done.
She said goodbye, daddy, backwhen his nose was bleeding, and
she's done, so I was.

(01:15:21):
This was interesting for me,but we cut to them on an open
road, interestingly on the wrongside of the road for part of
that.
So there's a little bit of, youknow, rule breaking just right
there.
We've got music playing, moredynamic sort of road shots that
all works, and then we cut tothem, pulling into a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Yeah, it was.
Yeah, we don't get these likewide open shots very much and I
want to point out that we got.
You know, we haven't mentionedthe cinematography, for this
series is by D Gregor Haggy,h-e-g, h-e-g-e-y Haggy, and it's

(01:16:07):
only him in undercinematographers.
Oh wow, sometimes with a seriesyou know you get 10 different
people or at least two or three,but it's this one guy and I
think it's a guy, gregorprobably.
I don't know.
I don't know the person, butRight.
And this one was a departurebecause we got some.

(01:16:27):
You know it's like a beautyshot on the road.
You know they had to lock offthis road probably.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
That's so funny, because the thought I had when
you said that was they made adecision here.
Oh yeah, you gotta have you got.
Now.
You got vehicles.
Yep, vehicles means drivers.
Like you said, they probablyhad to lock off the road.
Plus that high angle shot, Iguess it could be some sort of

(01:16:57):
crane situation, but it feelsmore like drone to me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
I think these days it's all drone, but this was
shot back in.
It was interesting enough thatit still was like with a
production like this, you mightgo, man, we just gotta use a
crane.
You know, my cousin Charlie'sgot a crane, he'll loan us for
whatever.
Or you know, you know gorillafilmmaking, you go.
Hey, I guess you see this allthe time with people who are

(01:17:27):
like oh, you know, my nephewworks for the gas company, he's
got his own bucket truck.
Yeah, I'm gonna say you gottatake a picture, you gotta just
come over for a half hour atlunch and just get us one shot,
so who knows?

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
but they definitely wanted that in there and I
wonder if it was placed there togive us a moment to process the
question of where they're going.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Yeah that's true, they don't call it out
specifically.
They didn't make a decision, wejust cut to them drugs.
We don't know if they'recontinuing on the way to Florida
or if they're backtracking tothe hospital, but we do then cut
to the hot.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
the lot they're pulling into is a hospital lot.
There's a police cruiser in theparking lot, so there's that
automatic reminder.
And then you of course wonderlike what was that cop looking
for them, are they, you know,like, get off the bike, wayne,
you nervous.
Dell, now I'm good, thanks forcoming in and supporting me, or

(01:18:28):
whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
So she, you know, here we go, let's go in Again
every time there's even theremote possibility of
vulnerability.
If you throw a whatever at theend, it softens it a little bit,
yep.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
And you're supporting me or whatever.
And then Wayne is what you mean?
Like coming in the hospital?
Apparently that was not hisplan.
He's like I thought I was incharge of transportation.
She says I can't do that.
And then she says, well, whythe hell not?
Well, people die in there,which I was like Wayne.

(01:19:05):
So she's there and she saysyeah that's why we're here.
Yeah, like, don't say that.
And then so she says, yeah, Iknow Underscoring, like, yeah,
my father's in there, that's whywe're fucking here.
And she storms away Dell, hecalls after her but she's on her
way and he doesn't follow herand it's not great.

(01:19:26):
Cut to walking into the, intothe hospital general people
milling about, doctors, nurses,people waiting, the whole deal.
She's walking down the hall andyou can see her kind of looking
down, avoiding eye contact.
Am I going to be recognized?
But also, let me see if I canfigure out where my father is.

(01:19:46):
And this isn't going to gogreat.
We cut to Geller, step up toJay.
I'm starting to feel like thisplan is a big old way we got to
call it yeah.
So Jay is just so bored, butalso he's so.

(01:20:07):
He's so oddly present in thesame way that he took the time
to take a picture of that suit.
Like he's just like, oh, lookat this, look at that, like
whatever's in front of him.
He's a bit of a child in thisway.
So right now he's reallyfascinated.
The traction on these hospitalsocks is unreal.
We see open on these goofyorange and white socks tilt up.

(01:20:28):
Geller comes walking up.
Jay said I'm starting to feellike this plan is a big old
waste of time.
Yeah, I don't know, gellerisn't sure, but we've been one
step ahead, but one step behindit every turn.
Maybe it's time we let him cometo us.
So they've laid their trap,they've put the, they've put the

(01:20:48):
, they've dangled something outthere that's counting on a lot
of things.
And then the kids got to watchthe news and even then Del's got
to care about her father enoughto stick her neck out for his
crazy ass.
Geller, yeah, you said ityourself.
Never underestimate howcomplicated, uh before, the

(01:21:09):
child bond can be.
Okay, which, by the way, is notwhat he said.
Like I thought it was funnythat in capturing the wisdom of
Jay, geller like dresses it up.
That's not what.
That's not what Jay said, um,but is it?

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
I'm not.
No, no, that is right, hedefinitely does.
And this is not a great plan,no, but it's all they got.
What are the odds of, yeah,what are the odds of them
actually seeing the thing?
And then you know but but atleast it's, uh, it's something
they're trying to.
You know, the definition ofinsanity is doing the same thing
over and over and expecting adifferent response.
So at least Geller's trying tomix it up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
So I feel like I could walk up the wall in these
bad boys Jay's now I can walk upa wall in these bad boys.
He's back to looking at thesegoofy high traction hospital
socks that he's now fascinatedwith, and then he says he can
walk up a wall.
Geller says physics will proveyou wrong, which says to me that
somewhere inside Geller hethinks that's a crazy thing to

(01:22:05):
say.
But just because it's Jay, I'vegot to be sure that I let him
know that he shouldn't try that.
Which is great, right, um, allright.
So we cut tight shot of, uh, avending machine.
We got moon pies, we got Frito.
Well, this is how you knowyou're down south right coach.
Yeah, Moon pies.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
I was like wow you don't get a lot of moon pies in
vending machines.
No Up in Rhode Island, Um yeah.
Yeah, so that's what that was.
That was the last time we werejoking around about Fritos, like
straight up Fritos.
Yeah, Because when's the lasttime you had a?
I was curious when's the lasttime you actually had a?

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Fritos when we were growing up were pretty big, I
think they were pretty, prettycommon, you know what I can tell
you, and it was probably twoyears ago, it was probably at
the draft, as we've shared.
Uh, listeners, we have a fancyfootball draft, and so what I'm
sure was the case is that we hadripped through the snacks All

(01:23:02):
the good ones, all the good onesand so I was like, all right,
screw it, I'll go with the.

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Fritos.
Somebody once told me um Fritos.
Look like old people's toenails.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
That's funny.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Since then, I've never had the ability to adjust
them.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
That didn't make you want a whole big old bowl of
them.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
No, it's for some a bowl Uh Frito toenails.
Fritos yeah, so yeah, we havethat insert shot.
And then we pulled back and wegot Wayne standing.
What An inch.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Yeah, he's got like like essentially, nose against
the glass, like old school youknow, uh, starving kid or
whatever, and he puts his headagainst the glass.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Um, and so we're standing there Cause he just
wants to stay and he's starvingyeah, he's starving.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Yeah, I mean, you know those pretzels ain't going
to last all day.
Um, so they've ripped throughthe pretzels and licorice, and
God, those look delicious.
Um, and so he's leaning thereand he's startled by uh fuck,
and we've got a guy in a youngwhite guy's striped shirt Shit,

(01:24:11):
my bad, just feeling a littleupset over here.
Wayne has leapt I don't knowhow many feet away from the
vending machine after beingstartled when we cut back to him
.
He's got his hands up ready tofight and he's trying to like
gather himself from beingstartled.
Shit, my bad, just feeling alittle upset over here.
Okay, so this guy's a a woundup.

(01:24:33):
He feels bad.
Let me get you something.
He's going to make it up to himCookies, chips.
What do you want?
But he's just talking fast andtalking crazy.
Anything you want, all right,you know what?
Too late, you got cookies,right, he's what's?

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
going on.
I love how you did that coach,because he is at a different
speed than Wayne is like uh,he's like in slow motion, he's
dragging ass.
This guy comes out like he's on, cope Like he is so far he's he
is at at.
You know it would use to speedup a record to make it sound
like the, it's like, it's likewhoa, yeah.
So, before Wayne, he had a wordin edge wise, this guy's got,

(01:25:06):
you know, three paragraphs andbased on setting you go oh shit,
something like something'sgoing on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
He tosses Wayne the cookies.
There you go, and he goes andsits down on this bench and pass
him on the shoulder.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Pass Wayne on the shoulder, as he goes by.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
You're all set now.
I scared you.
I got your cookies, we're good,so, wayne, thanks.
Hey, man, sit hang out.
So now we're friends and I.
Now I need something from you,I need to talk, so we're going
to sit down.
Coach, I wondered if this youthought this was significant.
They both sit between seats andI was like, is this me doing

(01:25:42):
too much?
Because it felt like just onemore way of like not fitting in
being off, being in transition.
They, because they both do italmost perfectly.

Speaker 3 (01:25:56):
I, that's funny, I didn't.
I love that, that, that tick.
It's something I did not noticeand something I would have to,
like it would track thematically.
You don't say it.
For me it was like the wayBradley sits.
Bradley is the is.
We thought.
Well, we will come to find out.
This is Bradley.
He sits sort of at a positionwhere I was like, okay, you have

(01:26:19):
another guy over it.
Reminded me of like urinal, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:26:23):
You go into a urinal, you go tothe bathroom.
You don't take the one next tothe guy Although, although I had
a friend who used to do thatand I would.
Just I'm like why?
Why would you?
It just pisses people off.
He's like I just like to knowthat I'm getting a rise out of
people.
I'm like these are just justleave people alone in the
bathroom.
It's a horrible thing to do.

(01:26:45):
But, yeah, a horrible thing todo.
Just just go you.
This is for for for womenlistening who don't have the
pleasure of a male restroom.
All those smells are justeffervescent, and those urinal
cakes.
It really adds something toyour life, right, coach?
Not to mention that they don'thave never managed to design

(01:27:09):
except of one urinal.
One time there's like this,this phenomenon, where, like, no
matter where you aim in theurinal, you get back splashed.
I'm like what?
Like why can't they?

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
make.
It seems yeah, it seems likeyou're in all design should be
in the rear view for us at thispoint.
It doesn't feel like we shouldbe still sorting out the angle
at which that, that bit ofporcelain is existing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
I did.
I will say there was a.
There was like a urinal I wentto one time.
It was like it looked like agiant salad bowl.
It was like set really low, itwasn't like a wall face.
It was on the wall but it waslike a real like I don't know,
like salad bowl size big bowland I think they had figured out
the the aerodynamics of it.

(01:27:56):
Yeah, the hydrodynamics.
It was like bravo, you know, Iwas like good, thank you, Like
was this so hard, Right, Iwanted to be like.
You know, I think I took apicture because I was so happy
about it.
I wanted to like write an emailto the company and be like dear
Kohler, a long time listener,first time caller.
Really appreciate you notmaking me smell like urine.

(01:28:19):
Anyway, you have this.
You have this moment here withBradley sitting down, and I
thought that Wayne chose theproper guy distance on the bench
.
That was like still cognizantof the invite to sit and talk to
a stranger, but at the sametime far enough away that I'm

(01:28:42):
not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Yeah, I'm not violating your guy space.
But I love that you use thatphrase, because in that urinal
situation, that is exactly whatI say.
I'm like what are we dating?
Like what?
Which makes no sense.
It's not like like would Iinvite Daphne to come stand next
to me at a urinal.
I don't know what that I don'tknow why, are we dating, is my

(01:29:06):
reaction.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
What a romantic gesture.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
But that is, that is my exit.
Those are like I'm like whatare we dating?
Like why are you what'shappening here?

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
You are so stupidly conditioned to be aware of what,
like, what, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Some man being too close to us when our penis is
exposed mostly, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
This is a bench, though, coach.
Oh, I know, I know, this is abench.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Yeah, yeah, you just go what?
Yeah, the urinal thing, forsure.
But yeah, no, even, yeah, Ithink yeah, if we go to a movie
theater and it's not packed andI sit down and you sit in the
seat next to me, I'm like what?

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
Why, what?
Oh, for sure.
But what if it's?
What if you and I go to a movietheater?
I still sit one seat away, yeah, like we're even with a friend.
Yeah, we've been friends 30years.
Yeah, what are you doing?
It's just because you don'tsmell great.
That's fair, no no no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no

(01:30:08):
no, no, no no.
But in the same way that Dell isconditioned to look for

(01:30:32):
violence and be aware ofviolence or be aware of threat
you know threat assessment thisguy's not stable and so Wayne
sits far enough away that, likeif the guy jumps at him or
something like he doesn't knowif he's getting baited into it,
Like you didn't know this guy,right, the guy just bought him
cookies, what's actuallyhappening here.
This guy is definitely goingthrough something, so walk us

(01:30:55):
through this.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
coach you ever get a girl pregnant.
The guy asks so, no, wayne saysnothing, by the way, no, yeah,
wayne says nothing.
Well, I fucking did.
And we're like, oh, okay, I getit.
Here we go now.
So he says, yep, 19 and mylife's fucking over.
Are I fucking pee?
You know how young that is?

(01:31:15):
And Wayne, very factually 19.
Oh my God, these two are madefor each other.
So fucking young bro.
So this guy is freaking out.
He is impregnated someone.
And, oh, boy, so I mean, I'm akid still.

(01:31:39):
By the way, pause this for asecond though, because I love
this piece and it's reserved forguys.
I'll never forget Ryan Lochte,when the Olympics were, I want
to say in Brazil, and they werelike oh, this kid, this kid
everybody's talking about thiskid and what this kid did.
And he was like 30, something,like he was literally in his 30s

(01:32:00):
.
And they were like this kid iskid, and white men specifically,
but men in general can.
The ability to be reclassifiedas boys, where we don't want to,
where we don't feel likestepping up and we don't want to
be adults anymore at this givenmoment, is fascinating to me.

(01:32:20):
Like, oh, now you're a kid, I'msure you aren't like, hey,
young lady, I'm just a kid,let's have sex.
I'm sure you were all man then,but now that that the shit hits
the fan, I'm just a kid.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what.
I'm saying While you weresaying you didn't have
protection.
I still wanted to get laid.
Oh man, I would love to, butI'm just a kid.
You were like yeah, yeah, baby.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
I'm a man, I want to feel whatever, so, like it's
interesting when you're a man,when you're a kid and getting
the shoes Situational manhood ohyeah, it's a real thing.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
So anyway, he's, he's Wait before we go on.
Before we go on, I always talkabout the casting and the stuff
and everything in here.
This guy's name is the actorwho plays Bradley, this white
kid.
His name is Peyton Meyer.
He has listen, I take a lot ofpride in being able to be honest
about who's beautiful.
This fucker is beautiful.

(01:33:18):
He has the prettiest eyes hehas.
This guy, he is like leadingman, good looks, and I was like
holy shit, like I looked him up,it looks like he has been in
since Wayne.
He was in American housewifeand he's all that like bit parts

(01:33:40):
.
But I was like wow, it is funnyit because he does a good job
here.
If you look at exactly, you gooh, it wasn't his skill that has
kept him from.
He did a good job as Brad.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Oh yeah, no, no, no, I bought him.
If you told me like, oh, thisis the guy they found in South
Carolina and he would, I'd belike, oh yeah, okay, great, like
I totally bought him yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
Yeah, right, yes, and he had.
It's funny he had that I hadsome.
I made some friends living inBoston went to the old iron
sides, which is the tall ship inBoston Harbor.
My dad used to like to go thereso I went there one time with
him and we were bringing somefamily members from out of town
and I ended up I don't know,it's just joking around with

(01:34:22):
some of the sailors on the shipand they were just nice.
They were like they remind meof this Bradley guy.
That's why I bring it up.
They were like good, clean, cut.
All American boys, and there'sone guy especially.
I just thought, oh.
So he just started reallycracking me up and I said,
listen, I know you guys aregoing to sound weird, but I know

(01:34:44):
you're.
You know away from home orwhatever.
If you guys ever want a homecooked meal, you know we live,
you know right outside the cityand and the lake you can come
water skiing and just get.
So he showed up how nice he'slike.
He's like that sounds nice.
And he showed up.
Maybe it was like a weekendlater, two weekends later,
whatever showed up like four orfive guys ready to beat me up if

(01:35:05):
I was gay.
This is like the story theytell.
They're like we didn't, weweren't sure.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
If you're hitting on it, you know like, oh my God.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
And then they were like when they found out like I
was just like you know whatever.
You know I'm lucky for them thatI was not attracted to them
because I'm a real peoplepleaser coach.
But then we ended up having, weremained friends this day, oh
nice.
You know, 30 plus years ago.
And this guy probably remindsme of that friend.

(01:35:33):
He's from Omaha, nebraska, andyou know, just like you know all
American kid, and handsome andbut kind of a knucklehead, right
, and you know a five cent head,no experience, kind of thing,
right, but not a bad kid.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
That's what I was going to say.
Like there's nothing bad aboutthat.
I'm sure he's like you knowwhat he didn't say.
Like fuck her.
Like I can't believe she gotpregnant.
Like it's not.
He's not.
No, he is appropriately freakedout.
Like he's freaked out.
He's like oh shit, I have to bea father.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
Yeah, I'm going to be a dad.
He, to the show's credit and tohis credit, he does not say one
bad word.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Yeah, no, it's none of that bullshit.
None of that bullshit.
Yeah, fuck you ever been.
So he's, look at the.
He's like all the things inlife he's not going to
experience now.
So that made me laugh.
Fuck you ever been bungeejumping.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
Yeah, this specific bungee, this specific bucket
list.
Wayne Wayne cracks open thecookies that Bradley bought them
.
He's about to take his firstbite before he can get it there.
You ever been bungee jumping?
And keep going.
Listen to this list.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
All right, so so, uh, so wait, let's go.
Huh Me neither.
What about water skiing?
You ever been water skiing?
Fuck, that sounds fun, doesn'tit?
What about sushi?
Ever tried?
Sushi what.
I mean, there's like wordassociation, like what.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
How'd you get the fucking sushi?
He finishes up with what?
No, what about a butter?
What about a water buffalo?
You ever seen one of them?
Oh God, like he is so freakedout His nervous system,
everything is just.
I like.
What the fuck?
Like, how'd you do water skisushi, water, like just things

(01:37:19):
associated with water, I guess.
Like he is freaked out and hegoes fuck, like, this is all.
Like he is.
He is in that initial moment ofhe still actually doesn't
believe he's going to be afather.
He's still processing thatpiece of information.
The five stages of grace orwhatever.

(01:37:41):
Yeah, like he is in pure denialshock right now, like he's like
get me some sushi.
I didn't even know I wanted tosee a water buffalo, until I
realized my life was over.
Like it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
Listen, Wayne never said a word throughout any of
that and did not also eat thecookie he like had brought it up
to his mouth and the guy waslike hammering him so much that
he just kind of slowly broughtit down.
And is it any wonder?
I just love this beautiful shothere of two young white men
with a brick wall behind themand nothing else, and I was like

(01:38:16):
, oh man, these guys are trappedin such different ways.
You know, it's just a barrier.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Oh, it's also clearly a choice visually, because this
, I mean, we're just talkingabout the open road and whatever
.
This show makes choicesvisually.
We may get why certain choicesare made or not guess what they
are, but to put them against aflat wall, albeit a brick wall,
is a choice and we are supposedto experience the trappedness of

(01:38:43):
these two.
I feel pretty confident insaying that.
I mean they are literally backagainst the wall both of them,
but then we can't like.
Then there are also somecontrast in the shot.
So you have eyes wide open,hyperactive, you know talking.
And then Wayne, by the end ofall this ranting, wayne's eyes

(01:39:06):
are just closed, like he's justsort of like sitting there and
just like a lot like absorbingall this crazy energy coming at
him.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
Yeah, I don't feel like a threat.
Like he's like he's calmed down.
He's like, oh God, this guy isjust a guy going through a lot
of shit.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:25):
And we cut back to the hospital bed.
Bobby's in there and the nursewho was talking with the sheriff
I mean the sergeant is in hisroom.
The boys are back in the Teddyand Carlyle back in the
wheelchairs by his side.
And Bobby says I'm fuckingdying over here, dying.

(01:39:45):
He's dying.
I'm gonna pin the nurses.
You need to get yourselftogether.
I will restrain you.
Why don't you give me somethingfor the fucking pain?
She says, hey, he's supposed tobe helping me out.
I need some fucking morphine.
And she says what, coach?

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
I can't give painkillers to an alcoholic Like
she wasn't going to say thatshe's just doing her job, but he
has worked her nerves to whereshe's like look motherfucker
right, so I can't givepainkillers to an alcoholic Like
.
What's funny about that is whenshe said that before the cut to

(01:40:21):
Bobby Luchero, because we cutto him immediately and you see
him process what she just saidBefore the cut.
I went ugh.
Oh, it is yeah yeah, yeah, I waslike, oh boy, because one, he
is absolutely an alcoholic andtwo, you are absolutely not
allowed to call him an alcoholic.
I knew both those things.

(01:40:41):
Yes, I was like oh God, no.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
If you.
If there's, no, I don't knowwhat the numbers are.
I wish there were numbers.
But this is when I talk a lotabout how amazing women in their
50s are and some of the stuffyou know.
I know so many in thisparticular area.
You'd be surprised I guess youwouldn't be surprised at what
percentage of them havefunctional alcoholic husbands,

(01:41:10):
who this is what they have.
This but you cannot ever bringit up.
If you bring it up, it's a war,you're making a battle.
It is like a line ofdemarcation, at least in this
region.
And you know you talk aboutdenial, about poor Bradley
outside, like these guys wouldnever process that they have a

(01:41:33):
problem drinking because that'sa weakness.
That would suggest that they'renot real men.
They need something to getthrough the debt.
That's bullshit.
That's what they did to whatmen do and therefore you know
some horseshit version of that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
It's also.
I'll never forget.
I wish I could remember where Iheard it, but I'll never forget
the phrase.
And they said every pimp willtell you at least I'm not a drug
dealer and every drug dealerwill tell you at least I'm not a
pimp.
There's something about Howeverfucked up you get with stuff.

(01:42:09):
If you drink every day, thenit's oh, but it's not like I
drink X, y or Z, or it's notlike I'm fall down drunk every
day.
And if you're fall down drunk,it's like well, I'm not like I'm
fucking homeless.
If you're homeless, there'salways like it's not, as if I'm
not as bad, as it's no big deal.
And I mean we have seen Bobbyin action.

(01:42:35):
Like that's like a perfectlyreasonable conclusion for anyone
to reach.
But here we go.
So anyway, we cut to BobbyLuchetti.
He's processing what was justsaid.
And so what did you just callme?
And she says I did not call youanything.
Well, who the hell did?
Whoever the hell filled outyour intake forms and and we

(01:43:04):
have the look of we're dead.
Yeah, from Carl and Teddy.
From Carl and Teddy.
They both know, oh, thisdoesn't go well.
There's even some slouching inthe seat.
Bobby looks over at them.
Why the fuck did you say I wasan alcoholic, to which they

(01:43:26):
respond honestly?
We didn't.
I just said that you enjoyeight drinks a day.
Now pause it for a second.
The use of the word enjoy, thatcracked me up.
That cracked me up because Imean to enjoy a drink.

(01:43:48):
You know to me, you know I seepalm trees swaying, or I see.
Yeah, no, no sure.
Enjoy, like one doesn't enjoyeight drinks a day.
Sorry, like that's not how wedescribe that, but it was great,
and Bobby Lachetti doesn'tenjoy anything.
No, right.
So the idea of right him enjoyright, that just cracked me up.

(01:44:11):
You said what?

Speaker 3 (01:44:13):
Like if you said, like, if you used the verb
assault for eight drinks a day,you did yeah, that makes more,
yeah, that feels in line withwho Bobby is.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
So you said what we can't lie these official
government papers we could getsequestered.
What Like?
Just word, just a word, justlike.
What are you talking about?
So, of course, as a father, asany good father does, responding

(01:44:44):
to that admission, he throwshis pudding and we get that's
tapioca.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Yeah, teddy, that's tapioca, tapioca.

Speaker 2 (01:44:59):
And actually it's funny because in the closed
caption here it says that Bobbysays that's it, but I think the
nurse says it oh right, yeah,yeah, yeah right, because she's
like I have had it with thisfucking guy and now he's
throwing shit, so we're done.
But the other side of thischaos is they're making more and

(01:45:23):
more noise, and so Dellrecognizes that brand of chaos
up in front.
I don't want to get stabbed.
I'm stabbing your fuckingeyeballs out.
I mean, it's full Luchettilunacy going down.
They're running.
He's throwing shit.

Speaker 3 (01:45:40):
That seems to be his chart that comes flying out of
the room.
I thought it was his food trade.
Maybe it was the food.
I actually forgot we had myexam makes more sense.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
I was trying to figure out what that was that
flew out behind them.
You stupid cock fucks, which isapparently a word.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
These are his boys.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
He's talking about.
These are his beloved children,the twins.
I'll burn down this fuckinghospital, but not just that,
I'll fuck every nurse.
Whoa, there's a birthday partygoing on.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
There's a birthday party going on in the next bed.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
And so they're all staring with the birthday hats
on.
I'll fuck every nurse,including the fucking male ones.
Like what?
What Are you saying?
It's truly just like.
How vulgar can I be?
The vulgarity is the assault.

(01:46:42):
Like it's just like there's norhyme, or what do you mean?
I'll burn it down and fuck thenurse and fuck it.
None of all it means is I amvulgar and I will assault you
with my vulgarity.
That's all it actually means,because it doesn't even make any
fucking sense.
And so we've got the familyreacting to this lunatic

(01:47:05):
screaming.
The show does innocent familiesreacting so fucking well, yeah,
and it reminds you that theworld is not like because you
can get sucked into, this is theother's and fuck this and that,
and to put it next to like anormal family, come to say
you're in the hospital, but weall love you.

(01:47:26):
Happy birthday Just reminds uslike this is not OK.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
This is crazy.
There's a I don't know whatthis, I don't know what this is,
but you know, like they used tosay, like oh, trump is a poor
person's version of what a richperson is.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
Yes, you never hear those, those, yeah.
A weak, yeah, a weak man'sversion of what a strong man is.
Yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
Exactly, or whatever that is.
And, and I was looking at thisone shot of this, this super
nice Hispanic family next doorhaving the party hats on, oh my
god.
And now there are how many?
One, two, three, four, five,six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11,
12.
And there are actually 12people.
Which is that?
Is it?
I just got that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
So I didn't think of that.
Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:48:11):
Because that's what he complained about before, when
there were five, but nowthey're actually are 12.
So fuck him.
And they're just looking, youknow it's like, oh, it's like,
ok, this is.
He's validating like the worstversion of what a white man oh
yeah.
Like it's like, oh yeah, theymake you still like that, you

(01:48:32):
guys still exist.
So I don't understand.
I'll fuck every nurse,including the fucking bill ones.
What I don't?
I don't even the level ofdepravity, and like sexual
violence and I'm like how doesyour brain produce that sentence
Like I don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
Even given, even given the situation, even given
you being upset about what Ilike, how does your brain give
you that as the way to expressI'm furious.
Not I'll beat all your asses,not what, I'll fuck every like I
will go on a rape spree.
Like what?
What are you saying out loud,do?

Speaker 3 (01:49:15):
I guess even the male ones is like oh, this is how
mad I am, yeah yeah, just so youknow Right.
Yeah, yeah, so you understand,I'll hold my nose and continue
sexual violence with thegentleman I just got, like he is
.
I mean, lest there's any doubtwhatsoever, what.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
Oh my God, so, so, yeah, this is and this is all a
decibel 11.
So we cut to poor dough, who islike slunk around the corner.
She's down now like kind oflike squat sitting on the ground
.
You can just see like this ismy life written across her face.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
Well, is there, did you?
Did you register it?
Ok, so she thought she wasgoing to find her dad on death
store Right and she she findspeak, violent Bobby Lachette
like making the fool of himself,and and and doing it, doing so
loudly, and it seemed to me likeshe had a traumatic reaction.
Oh, yeah.
Like you know, being like asort of you look at like trauma,

(01:50:24):
sensitive, mindfulness kind ofthing.
Yeah, she is.
She was not prepared for theshe is having some instant
reaction.
She leans against the wall.
She slides down to the floorlike squats down against the
wall.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
Yeah, I'm glad you pointed that out because I guess
I did.
But yeah, there is the littlescared kid Also.
Like I was thinking of it moreas like sad and like how is this
my life?
But I think you're right that,like she knows, like actually,
when he starts acting like that,I bet she has needed to take
cover and learn to do it quicklyand quietly and just wait for

(01:51:01):
the storm to be over, like I'myeah, make sense, it's got to be
one of her learned behaviors.

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):
I swear to God, you turn on my fucking kids.
Yikes, I don't know who you'refucking, mother fuck, who you're
fucking mother fucked.
But it wasn't me, it wasn'tfucking me.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
So pause it there because, again, like the
vulgarity as its own point, ifthere's one human being we are
sure this man loved, it is thewoman he is talking about in
that sentence.
Yeah, and what he says is Idon't know who you're fucking,

(01:51:39):
mother fucked.
Wow, like, it's just such like,but you just like it's who the
man is for, whatever his youknow, I don't get the sense that
he exactly was born with aspoon in his mouth either.
So, okay, but it's just soviolent, it's all so violent.

(01:52:00):
And what a horrible thing tosay to them about their mother
who died and for some reason, atthe very least, we know Dell
didn't get to go to a funeral.
I don't know what else wentdown, but like, really, that's
like a thing you say out loudabout your late life.

Speaker 3 (01:52:18):
It's, it's stunning.
You know they say that old termin in.
Well, we say you know thepronunciation, latin is with the
W.
But they say you know whetheryou say in vino veritas or in
vino veritas, whatever whateveryou say take it in wine.
There's truth.
And in this case, his, his lackof wine, his, his like, he is

(01:52:41):
becoming laid bare.
It's like the wine serves toshield him and put on armor, and
his like, the truly despicablethoughts that he has, or his
attacks in our coming out.
You know he's not able to.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Yeah, instead of truth serum, this is like truth
sobriety.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
Yeah, like he, just you just get the sense, and I
don't know if he actuallybelieves that or something, but
like no, under certaincircumstances he might be able
to at least control that impulse.
Yeah, and look at Del's face inthis shot.
She's she is.
It looks like borderline tospawn it.
She's got her hands on her, onthe sides of her face, yeah, and

(01:53:22):
she looks very small.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
Yeah, yes, she seems very small, yeah, so she sighs.
Bobby's yelling here come Jayand Geller.
Hey, these two motherfuckersthere.
So Geller, hey, put a cork init.
I like that.
Even though he drives a NissanLeaf like he's seen a thousand,
bobby Luchetti's put a cork init.
Bobby does not put a cork in it.

(01:53:47):
Now we've got, now we've gotDel.
She turns, she gets her courageup.
She's going to head that way.
And Bobby yells will somebodyplease get me a goddamn fucking
drink?
So he's, he's, he's crossed outof whatever to now.

(01:54:08):
He's being super clear.
Like this is starting to hurtway more than the collapse lung.
I need a drink.
She turns and walks away andjust in time because out of the
room, calm Jay and Geller, andJay's explaining that it's three
leches.
That means three milks, whichI'm already.

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
Okay.
Is he talking about the food?
I think he's talking about theshit that he threw.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Okay, yeah, I think he is.
I was what I assumed, which islike, but that's not the point
anymore than the stakeout pointwas the sticky sock, you know, I
mean like the traction of thesocks, like he's just very funny
where he gets distracted.

Speaker 3 (01:54:51):
Now once again I'll say that we miss boss now again.
Didn't think I'd say it twicein one episode and they never
say it, but I think she would.
She would talk about thereference she made to God.
I forget who it was it was.
I forgot who the comedian was.
Was a female comedian who saidoh, don't worry, she can.

(01:55:14):
She can hear the type of drunkthat he is.
So this is not a violent drunk.
And what I saw, right before Delturned and walked away, she
heard him say well, someone,please get me a fucking drink.
And she heard pain in his voiceand she realized the violence
is coming.
He needs to be vulnerable andhe's hurting Right and you know

(01:55:41):
you watch this as a sentienthuman and you go, good, fuck him
Right.
But if he's your dad, right,and you hear him suffering right
, it lands completelydifferently for her, and for her
, I'm sorry.
And she turns and walks theother way before the officers
come out.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
And it also begs the question I think the rest of
this episode speaks to thisquestion, without you know
saying what has happened beforeit happened of what does love
look like?
Right, like what does love looklike?
Love, you know, like love mightlook like getting you to the

(01:56:22):
hospital but not going in, orshould it be going in and you
fucked up and didn't show up.
And in this moment, you know mydad's dying.
They're asking for thoughts andprayers.
All right, he's, you know allthe things, but he's still my
dad.
I just think there's a lot oflike what is required, what is

(01:56:45):
required of me and to have a guyyou know going oh, my God, my
life's over, I'm going to be adad again.
Yeah, you know like there's alot of what is required.

Speaker 3 (01:56:59):
Well, you look at that scene with Bobby and it's
like a Rashomon kind of kind ofvibe, because you say, oh, the
hospital staff is hearing onething, you know, the cops are
hearing another thing, the boysare hearing another thing.
They're running for their lives, right.
The family next door is hearinganother thing and Dell hears
something completely different.
It's all the same thing he'ssaying, right, right, she's able

(01:57:23):
to discern something totallydifferent than everybody else.
So we're back outside with thatgreat shot of the boys, wayne
and Bradley, on the benchagainst the wall.
And what do we have here, coach?

Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
All right.
So we're at this point.
Brad's got his cookies now, sowe've settled in, we've gotten
the first wave out and theselittle butter cookie bitches are
addictive, which, as long aswe're talking about addicts, you
ever do cocaine?
I did cocaine once.
By the way, I hear sugar ishard as hard to kick as cocaine.

(01:57:56):
They've studied it which Ithought was like really deep.
But anyway, god, I love cocaine.
How old are you?
Again?
He is still kind of reeling.
I'm sort of surprised I'm not acocaine right now, 16,.
Wayne says fuck me.
And Brad is looking around man,that's what I'm talking about.

(01:58:16):
And he points and what's hepointing?
To Wayne's bike.
And it's so funny, right?
Like, talk about grass isgreener.
Yeah, he's like man, whoeverowns that bike, right?
So jumping on the back of thatthing, leaving the bullshit
behind, or just like living likean outlaw, it's like, oh,

(01:58:38):
wouldn't that be just so easyand free.
I mean, we're like we've beenwith Wade, not exactly.
Yeah, he's got it made, he'sgot it made.
And Wayne says you never know.
And then this hit me in aspecific way and this is about
my own life.
A bus pulls up to a bus stopthere and when my mother was at

(01:59:04):
her wit end.
She would sometimes say thatshe thought about that.
How she would say it.
She says sometimes I just wantto leave everything.
Just get on a bus and I'll tellanybody where I went.
Like she's just like you'rebuying me should say this.
She said that, yeah.
She said that, yeah, everyTuesday she said it.
But she expressed that therewere just times where it was

(01:59:27):
just also overwhelming and shejust wants to get away.
And so when that bus camearound, I immediately was like
Black woman in America.

Speaker 3 (01:59:36):
Yeah great, Exactly Throwing up at that time Easy
Shree Right.

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
Yeah, seriously.

Speaker 3 (01:59:42):
Yeah, put your wine in mom.

Speaker 2 (01:59:46):
Right, exactly, everything's going to be super
easy, exactly, and he looked at.
I thought he was going to geton that fucking bus Before there
was any whatever, he'd justbeen talking about the bike.
It feels like the whole worldjust crashed out around him.
I thought this guy was going tobe like laid away.

Speaker 3 (02:00:04):
Yeah, and it's not a casual thing.
They insert the bus pulling up.
They show people getting on andoff, they cut back to him
staring.

Speaker 2 (02:00:15):
He's clearly thinking Longly at the bus, yeah, yeah,
people getting on, peoplegetting off.
See a nurse get off her wholedeal.
You never know, right.
He asks as the camera pushes in.
We can still see Wayne over hisshoulder.
He's breathing a little heavy.
My mom left, I was fine.

Speaker 3 (02:00:35):
He had said oh yeah, here's what we missed.
While we were talking that up,he said my dad left me and I
turned out all right, Mm-hmm,which it's one of those things
people say.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
I always find it an interesting assessment because
people be like hey, I got beat,I turned out all right and I'm
always like, says you Like.
It's a very interestingassessment to put forth, like,
oh yeah, I turned out fine, like.
But did you turn out fine Like?
By what measure are you fine,sir?

(02:01:10):
Like who?

Speaker 3 (02:01:11):
said you turned out fine, like you.
Never even seen a water buffalo, we haven't had sushi.

Speaker 2 (02:01:16):
Listen, right now we are sharing butter cookies in a
fucking hospital park a lot,because you got some women you
didn't mean to get pregnant,pregnant, so did you turn out
fine?
Like I'm not saying you didn'tturn out fine, I'm just saying
it's an interesting thing peoplesay when they're processing
whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (02:01:33):
And to this point, other than saying his age, wayne
has said nothing, right.

Speaker 2 (02:01:38):
And now he's going to share, which is sort of
un-Waynish behavior anyway, andit's interesting framing because
we have Bradley real tight inthe foreground and.

Speaker 3 (02:01:49):
Wayne in the over his shoulder blurry you know 10, 12
feet behind him sitting on thebench still.

Speaker 2 (02:01:56):
Good point and not looking at Bradley.
It's almost visually like theold school cartoon angel on the
shoulder position.

Speaker 3 (02:02:04):
Oh yeah, no, I didn't even think of that.
That's right, actually.
Wow, that's a really goodobservation.

Speaker 2 (02:02:08):
You know what I'm saying, Like, not that you just
said.
I'm like oh, look at that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:11):
So it looks like that .
Right, that's a hell of.
If they did that intentionally.
That's a hell of a hell of achoice, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:02:20):
But we go then to Wayne.
My dad stayed.
He didn't have to, but he didRight what is required.
Well, if you said, I'm sorry, Iwent too far, coach.

Speaker 3 (02:02:32):
Before that he said my mom left when I was five.
I think he said something likethat let's see it up up here.
What do we got?
Wayne says yeah, here we go.

Speaker 2 (02:02:41):
My mom left when I was five, right, and then we cut
into him.
And then he says my dad stayed.
He didn't have to, but he did.
We go back to Bradley, who'sstill thinking breathing Wasn't
always the best dad, but hestayed Back to the bus now
Tighter.
Shot on the bus, tighter oh boy.

(02:03:03):
Oh boy, now we hear the busbreak.
You know, like we know, the busis about to take off.
That hiss, and then Bradleyturns around and comes back.
Decision made, bus gone.
I might be a shitty dad, butfor now it looks like I'm going
to be a dad.
How many girls had sex with you?

Speaker 3 (02:03:23):
You know, as I say, you wonder if Bradley's going to
have a real breakthrough moment.
And then what does he start up?

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
with how many girls he had sex with.
And again, no answer.
I think I'm up to nine.
No way.
Tonya Boyd, 10, which I waslike oh God, but it feels a bit

(02:03:47):
more of an assessment of life upto now, because life's about to
be over.
So it's like it felt to me likewait, does this mean I'm never
going to have sex with any otherwomen ever again?
Like there was some of that inthat assessment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah and so.
But right off of that we getDell marching in on a mission

(02:04:10):
that walks, she gets when she'slike something's going to happen
right now, walks up to Wayneand says we got to go to the
packy, which took me a second toprocess what happened there.
I was like, really, do you knowwhat?
Do you know what a packy is I?
I, yeah, a package store, Iassume.

Speaker 3 (02:04:27):
Package store, which is which is the what they call
liquor stores up here in thisregion.

Speaker 2 (02:04:34):
So but yeah, I had to .
I had to walk through what youjust did, because it's not a
phrase I would use, but I waslike, oh, okay.
And so in that moment I'llshare what my in real time
reaction was.
Oh no, she only knows one,she's only seen one way to

(02:04:56):
process overwhelming emotions.
Yeah, right, and I thought, ohboy, please don't.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, please don't.
So that's where that left me.
And of course, bradley, whoonly knows Wayne as the guy who
was waiting to chat me up at thevending machine, yeah, says

(02:05:18):
well, hello, aka my best friend.
Yeah, we are.
Yeah, what's your name again?
And then, well, hello, there hestands up, little lady, he's
hands on hips like what the fuck, bro?

Speaker 3 (02:05:32):
This is where boss would be just flaying me alive.
Right now she's like oh, castle, then you said he was a good
boy.
He's like not a bad guy.
And he's got a presumably agirl pregnant and the other
thing.
And as soon as he's anotherpretty girl, he's like, oh,
hello, right, so he's not a goodboy.
You know, and neither are youfor thinking.

Speaker 2 (02:05:51):
Yeah, and he's happy to make it 11 if things go the
way they could go.

Speaker 3 (02:05:56):
It's just again, really, bro, reinforces what a
horse's ass he is.
And she's like who's this?
What's this?
Who's this?
Jack off, which was great,who's this?
She doesn't look at, said.

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
Jaguar no, no, like she's like I got, I got shit
going on and I don't needbullshit from this Jaguar.
Like it's just like yeah,because it's also fuck off right
.
Like it's.
She's asking Wayne, but she'salso letting this guy know, like
Back away, don't bother me.
To which Wayne answers that'sBradley, he's having a baby,

(02:06:35):
sure, yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:06:39):
That's a and she says sucks for him.
Yeah, it does yeah it does.

Speaker 2 (02:06:44):
We got to go get booze, yeah, and she walks away
Like there's no, explainingthere's no, that's it.
What about your dad?
Is he in there?

Speaker 3 (02:06:53):
Bradley goes fuck yeah, we do, we do.
Listen, listen, listen.
People go OK.
You call Ted Lasso amasterpiece because I believe it
is.
You say what you call Wayne amasterpiece.
Here's one of the reasons whyyou'll get if you had to twist
my arm.
Why do you think this is amasterpiece?
Because nobody takes the timewith small moments like this.

(02:07:16):
If this is a network show.
This is gone.
You never meet Bradley, younever meet ancillary care, you
never give them personalities,you never waste time away from
the MacGuffin, from your A plot,because you assume people are
dumb enough, are too dumb toabsorb it and they're not
nuanced and they won't be ableto discern the importance of the

(02:07:37):
interwoven plot lines.
But all of that setup is likeperfect for this outcome.
Fuck, yeah, we do.
It's like, yeah, we weren't.
We had no knowledge that Dellwas going to need alcohol.
But once she does, bradley isfully on board and Wayne's like
wait, wait, what about your dad?

(02:07:57):
Is he in there?
She's, he doesn't know what'shappening.

Speaker 2 (02:08:00):
Yes, and he's not dead.
I mean, wow, like to have thatstern, angry slash, sad slash,
determined look on your face atthe news that your father is not
dead.
Right, like, if you're Wayneright now, you, even you still

(02:08:24):
got to be like what the fuck ishappening.
So he says so why are wegetting booze?
We should go now, which I love,because if your father were
dead then I understand the boozething.
But since your father's notdead, why are we getting booze?
Interesting, like there's somuch everybody's logic and where

(02:08:51):
everybody is, and Bradley, ofcourse, is just sorting out like
I didn't know, it was my luckyday, but apparently we're
drinking now, so let's get itdone.
I'm going to get some Yeager.
Oh, we should get some cocaine,maybe like whoa.

Speaker 3 (02:09:06):
What Bradley Bradley reminds me.
You ever have a friend wherewhatever advice they got last is
the best advice they've evergot.
That's funny.
Yeah, and so he was sittingthere pouring his heart out to
Wayne.
Wayne gave him a tiny bit ofadvice that didn't get him on.
It kept him off the bus problem.

Speaker 2 (02:09:23):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:09:23):
Right.
And as soon as Dale comes outlike let's get fucked up or
let's get alcohol, he's like yes, we should go right now.
Like he's fully.

Speaker 2 (02:09:30):
And, by the way, I'm pretty sure he found out inside
said hospital about thepregnancy.
So is there someone waiting foryou, mr?
Let's go get some cocaine,right, right, what is so crazy?
Why is he here?
And he again, factually correct.
He bought me some cookies.
Can he buy us some booze?

(02:09:52):
As long as you're going to berunning that fucking trap of
yours, are you useful Cause Igot something to do?
Yeah, I got a fake ID.
So of course now we're a teamSays I'm a foot taller and 40
pounds fatter.
But, by the way, did I ever tellyou real quick on this, I had a

(02:10:14):
fake ID.
This is old school, new York,Right?
I wanna tell people I'm fromNew York, because some folks
here may have been to TimesSquare more recently and so they
think it's like an extension ofDisneyland.
It was not when I was growingup.
It was the opposite of that.
It was the seediest, grime-iestshit ever.
There were just like triple Xtheaters and it was a fucking

(02:10:37):
catashree.
And I went to that lovely areato get a fake ID and just to
show like how bullshit the wholesystem is.
This ID that I went on to useto buy alcohol on more than one
occasion simply on the top saididentification, like it was even

(02:10:59):
like an attempt to be like bythis authority or that authority
.
It just said identification,that's it.
Oh, here's my identificationcard.
Here you go.
And yes, I always laugh thatlike the whole thing was such
bullshit.
Like who did I hand?

(02:11:19):
How do I hand that to somebodyin a liquor store?
And they go yeah, checks out,you're all set.

Speaker 3 (02:11:25):
It's all.
It was a different, it was theWild West.
Back then it was crazy.
By the way, the only place Iever got a fake ID was there.
Also Is that fun?
And I was in school in New Yorkcity at the time and I my best
friend there and I we gave thisdirt bag some money on the
street and he ducked into aphoto shop and then we waited

(02:11:47):
for a while and we're likewhat's taking so long?
We go in and he must have.
Just there was a door up.

Speaker 2 (02:11:51):
How he went back, just took our money.

Speaker 3 (02:11:54):
And so then we figured out this thing where
went to this?
We're like, oh shit, we don'thave IDs.
But we went to this.
We were in a theater programand so we had access to a ton of
costumes.
And it was amazing because wewere in acting school at the
time, and so what they would dois they would give you any shows

(02:12:15):
that were playing in town thatdidn't have, that weren't to
capacity.
You could get tickets in thevery, very back for six bucks,
and so we would do all that andwe had access to a bunch of
costumes.
And we found these tweedblazers and we realized we
didn't need IDs.

(02:12:35):
If you had those on If we put onthese fake glasses like these
see-through, like no, you know,the glasses didn't wear, they
were just frames and these tweedthat no one carded us Like we
never got carded Because they'rejust like yeah, and that's,
there's New York cities, but itwas, but again it was insane, it
was a wild way, it was totallydifferent than it was totally
insane.

Speaker 2 (02:12:53):
Yeah, yeah, and it's not like, it's not anything like
it is now with that kind ofstuff, there's completely nuts
yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:13:00):
So Dale has no time.
Can we just hurry the fuck up,please?
She's just, yeah, like he'stalking about his ID.
Makes him 40 pounds.

Speaker 2 (02:13:08):
She doesn't give a fuck about anything other than
the mission she's on Now.
This line crushed me Becausehe's Bradley, just straight up,
and it's actually not Well,cause she walks away.

Speaker 3 (02:13:24):
She's like, can we just go?
And she turns and just walks,she goes like she's you know
right.

Speaker 2 (02:13:29):
And he and Bradley says to Wayne, as they both
watch her walk away, do not gether pregnant.
That is so fucking funny andjust like so, like he's, like
you, like you'll get your asskicked.
Like it was just so good, itwas just a great line.

(02:13:52):
Like Bradley's, like she is ahouse of fire.

Speaker 3 (02:13:57):
She's a pit fight.
She is tough as nails.

Speaker 2 (02:14:01):
If you will be siding on for a life of getting your
ass kicked, sir.
If you do that, be careful.
So anyway, I just thought thatwas great.

Speaker 3 (02:14:11):
So we do a little time cut to after they've
already gone to the parking lot,I mean to the, to the packy,
and you know it's funny, justwhen you don't have a lot of
money for locations like lookwhere this shot is taking place.
It's like you know what I mean.
You just at the back door ofthe hospital, just it looks like

(02:14:32):
there's no one in the parkinglot.
They must have waited.
It looks like sun's going down.
It's one of those shots You'relike let's see if we can get
this shot.
Like we have to shoot thissomewhere.
We don't have a specificlocation.
Let's put them on the like,just you know on the the part
kneeling on the asphalt of theparking lot, and let's roll,
probably a grand total of sevenfeet from where we were just

(02:14:55):
shooting, by the way.
Right, yeah, yeah, exactly, andjust what you have to do with a
limited budget and what happenshere.

Speaker 2 (02:15:05):
So, bradley, we've got bottles on the ground.
It did look from a distance.
A former bartender and meimmediately was like oh, what
are they drinking?
I saw something that lookedlike, had like a fireball vibe
to it.
I'm trying to figure out whatthey've got, but I'm not making
sense of it.
And on cube, bradley says whatdo you make?
You know what the fuck are youmaking?
And she's, and as she pourswhat seems to be milk into what

(02:15:31):
seems to be juice, she says it'sa Cape Cod.
Coolly, my dad invented it.
So immediately I'm like dearGod.

Speaker 3 (02:15:40):
Sometimes so Cape Codder is a vodka, cranberry
Right.
So I think there's vodka and Ithink there's cranberry Right.
Yeah, there's also half andhalf.
There also appears to begrapefruit juice, right.

Speaker 2 (02:15:58):
Yeah, and fireball, like I don't know why that's
sitting there, or whatever that,whatever whiskey that is.
And so apparently this wasinvented at Bigfucks.
Over the summer we had a friend, a big fuck, who would rent a
trailer, or dad would rent thetrailer from Bigfuck, excuse me,

(02:16:20):
and so he was very big.
Wayne asks so, just in caseanybody was wondering.
And they park it down at thetrailer park down by the beach
for a couple of days.
This was high living.
They go swimming, all that, andshe's still mixing this thing
and I'm getting sick watchingher mix.

(02:16:40):
I'm like, oh my God, like whydon't I just stick your finger
in your throat and save themoney?
And then they park it down mytrailer swimming all that.
She's pouring the whiskey in.
At this point she's mixing thewhole thing in the juice bottle.
Yeah, so this is like you do.

Speaker 3 (02:17:02):
As one.
Exactly.
This feels like a glimpse intoBoss's childhood too, by the way
.
You know you have like is this?
Just feels like she wouldreally relate to this this
impromptu mixers.
She thinks it's just made ofstuff Bigfuck had lying around
the trailer, right, but my dadwould let me make these for him

(02:17:24):
and I thought it was so coolbecause I was nine or 10 and it
was booze.
But you know, he probably justlet me make him because he was
lazy.

Speaker 2 (02:17:33):
Which is also like even whatever halfway pleasant
memory she had of somehow thisbeing like a thing she did for
her dad.
In the darkest we might find it.
At least she had some warmtharound it.
Even that's been ruined overtime, right, like it's not.
Oh, he loved me, or blah, blah,blah it's.

(02:17:53):
You know he was lazy, he'sprobably just lazy.
So she walks off with her mixeddrink.
We now understand what'shappening.
She's making the Cape CodCooley for Mr Withdrawal over
there and she walks away.
Wayne follows Del wait andBradley because you know he came

(02:18:16):
for the booze takes a taste ofthe Cape Cod Cooley, which I was
like you really gotta beinterested in getting fucked up
to do that, yeah, and he goes ohGod, that's rude.
And then goes for Swallownumber two.
So I'm like, dude, you are notthe bastion of great decision
making at all.

Speaker 3 (02:18:38):
And Wayne's chasing after Del and calls after I
think we're gonna leave it therefor today.
Coach man, oh God, that's rude.
And then takes a bit of a slugand that's a Swallow.

Speaker 2 (02:18:52):
It's a different time in life Like I get it.
I definitely drank some thingsover the years.
At looking back on what in whatversion of reality, was that a
good idea or what was that?
But yeah right now my stomachis definitely like sympathy.
Sympathy sickness Like rightnow.

Speaker 3 (02:19:12):
Yeah, you wanna yell at your screen Please do.

Speaker 2 (02:19:14):
Oh, you don't wanna do that.
No, yeah, yeah, no, this endspoorly Amazing, so yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:19:23):
We have about, I'd say, probably 10 or 12 minutes
left from the episode.
We'll get that next time.
This is Wayne, episode seven.
It'll last forever.
And coach, where do people findyou if they wanna find you?

Speaker 2 (02:19:36):
Come through.
We aligned.
We aligned out of line pcom.
We're actually working on someplans right now to revamp things
and build up the community, butjust trying to make it work for
everybody Live better lives.
And we're getting there, we'regetting there.

Speaker 3 (02:19:53):
Love it, love it, love it, love it.
And I was just looking up yeah,total recall, that's the name
of the one where Kuatu comes outof the dude.
I couldn't think of the nametotal recall that.
We wish Boss the best.
Hope she feels better.
And yeah, thanks to everybodyfor listening.

(02:20:17):
Thanks for joining us on thisexploration of Wayne.
It has been, man, never a dullmoment.
Coach.

Speaker 2 (02:20:25):
I mean really this episode maybe above all, never a
dull moment.
Everything was like bam bam bambam.

Speaker 3 (02:20:32):
It's funny because our editor, luke, he has watched
the whole thing and got aheadof us because I think his
YouTube thing was expiring orsomething.
He's like I better watch it.
And his favorite episodes areall coming up.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah, three left after this.
Oh, wow.
We have half of seven, then wehave eight, nine and 10.
And he swears by the ending.

Speaker 2 (02:20:56):
Oh, I look forward to it.

Speaker 3 (02:20:57):
Yep, yep, thanks everybody.
Thank you for joining us.
We'll be back next time withthe part two.
The second part of It'll LastForever.
Please support your locallibraries and the written word.
And until next time, oh coach,this is going to be fun.
No boss to muck it all up.

Speaker 2 (02:21:19):
We are Richmond To we get boss back, because I really
miss her.

Speaker 3 (02:21:26):
Oh God, all right, everybody, thanks, thank you,
thank you, thank you and we willsee you next time.
And boss, feel better andplease don't have an
appendectomy in the short timethat you've been away.

(02:21:46):
Yes, and we'll do it up.
Thanks, coach.
Great job today and thank youeverybody.
We will see you next time.

All Episodes

Wayne | S1 Ep7 Part1 "It'll Last Forever"

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

Dateline NBC

Stuff You Should Know

The Nikki Glaser Podcast

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Wayne | S1 Ep7 Part1 "It'll Last Forever"