April 14, 2025 • 9 mins
The video script explores the controversial removal of Salvadoran national Kmar Abrego Garcia, arguing that his expulsion was not a human rights violation, but rather a rightful repatriation. The script criticizes leftist outrage over due process and constitutional rights, comparing Garcia's case to genuinely serious injustices such as the imprisonment of American ballet dancer Ksenia Carolina in Russia. It asserts that Garcia’s removal was lawful and beneficial not only to the United States but also to El Salvador, framing the uproar as politically motivated rather than based on genuine concern for international law or human rights.
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The Tenth Man (00:10):
They say it was a human rights violation, a due
process disaster, and aconstitutional crisis.
How the expulsion of Kmar AbregoGarcia is exactly what's
supposed to happen today on the10th Man.
(00:33):
We are diving today into theso-called outrage about the
removal of Kilmar Abrego Garcia,the Salvadoran National who was
brace yourselves, sent back toEl Salvador.
Leftists are screaming about.
Due process and constitutionalviolations, human rights abuses,
(00:58):
all the while pretending theyactually know what a nation is,
or a citizen, or even aborderer.
So here's a little spoil.
Alert.
Garcia was not deported.
Garcia was repatriated, which iswhat you call it when you return
(01:19):
someone to his own country.
The, the one you're an actualcitizen of.
So let's try and get itstraight.
This claim of an abuse ofconstitutional rights, people
claim abuse of constitutional
rights these days.
The way kids claim abuse whenyou tell'em to put their cell
(01:40):
phone down.
It reminds me of the old, uh,Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
You're repressing me.
You're repressing me.
You see how I'm being repressed.
And it's a comical, it's acomical routine sketch in that
movie.
And the left acts like everydisagreement with their agenda
(02:03):
is a First Amendment crisis or aviolation of some part of the
constitution.
You can't tell your neighbor, toturn the music down without
someone invoking the Bill ofRights and now telling.
And.
Illegal immigrant.
He can't live here forever.
That's somehow a 14th amendmentcase.
(02:25):
Uh, it's like Monty Python.
It's actually parody, but inthis case, they're actually
serious.
I, let's talk about what dueprocess actually is, because if
you're not arrested, notimprisoned, and not denied a
trial while being in prison.
(02:46):
You haven't been denied dueprocess, and that's the big
claim about Garcia.
But Kmar Garcia was not throwninto a gulag.
He was put on a plane and senthome.
That's not a denial of rights.
That's actually a privilege inaddition to being enforcement of
(03:08):
the law.
It is really amazing that thisis taking place at the same time
as other events withoutcomparisons being made, because
meanwhile, across the world,there is real injustice taking
place.
Ksenia, Carolina, it's probablyCarolina, an American ballet
(03:29):
dancer.
This girl was locked up in aRussian prison.
For expressing an opinion andthe US government had to
negotiate, had to fight for herrelease and actually exchange a
prisoner for her.
Now, were there any massprotests for her when her actual
(03:52):
true rights were being violatedwhen she was an actual true
victim?
Were there any activists who aremarching for Garcia?
Marching for, uh, KseniaCarolina.
Well, we know the answer tothat, of course not.
So Garcia the criminal,regardless of anybody's opinion
(04:12):
about whether he's being treatedharshly based on his crimes, but
he's still a criminal, but hegets more sympathy than an
innocent victim who was not justlet go but thrown into jail.
We just have a situation ofjudicial abuse the judges seem
to have an idea.
(04:33):
They're working under a myth ofhaving total jurisdiction.
And yes, there is a judge whocalled Garcia's, uh, expulsion
apparently illegal.
But the thing is.
His presence in the UnitedStates was illegal.
And if it's a gray area and his,his expulsion wasn't gone about
(04:55):
in the most proper way, fine,but the result's the same.
He's out of the country, wherehe should be.
He never should have been here.
He's gone now.
The solved, and we'll give you alittle allegory, a little, a
little story that exemplifiesthis and.
Uh, even if this is a legal grayarea, it's only such because
(05:18):
activists, judges, they keepcoloring outside the lines
because courts don't get to ruleevery single aspect of American
life.
Uh, but that's what they'retrying to do.
But that's not how a functioningsystem works.
Like, think about doctors doingtriage.
(05:39):
There's a, train wreck, somesort of disaster where multiple
people have taken to the, theemergency room.
Well, the doctors have to decidewho to work on first.
Are you gonna bring in a judgeand demand due process to get to
the front of the line?
Because that's what it is.
It's a matter of choices doingthis versus that.
(05:59):
If you go to Disney World, theDisney ride operators decide.
Who's too short to get on theride?
You can't get a court injunctionto override what the, what the
ride operators say based on theguidelines of the, of the park.
And you don't get to sue anightclub for not letting you in
when they, they've reached theirmaximum or they think you've had
(06:20):
too much to drink.
Immigration is very similar.
We have immigration officers whoare assigned.
It's their job to decide.
Who belongs here and everysovereign nation operates the
same way.
They have immigration officers.
it's not authoritarianism, it'snot Nazism.
(06:41):
It's just how every countryworks and how every country has
to work.
It couldn't be any, any otherway.
A question I would like to askin some of these cases, when
judges rule, they rule that thisor that method of enforcing
immigration law was not theright way to do it.
Well, fine, we all know thatimmigration law has to be
(07:02):
enforced.
If not this way, then how?
How is the president supposed todo?
What is his actual job enforcingthe law?
But beyond all this, let's takea new look at this whole
immigrant rights movement andlook at the arrogance of the
(07:23):
movement.
So let's say this very loud,Kmar Garcia is a citizen of El
Ador.
He wasn't deported, he wasrepatriated.
The same way we'd want KseniaCarolina brought back to the US
Garcia was returned to his homecountry.
(07:48):
Now if the protestors wanted toget him out of Sea Cot, El
Salvador's, supermax prison,they might have a point, even
though that's a question for ElSalvador, not for us, but they
might have a point.
Yeah, but that isn't what theirpoint is.
They want to bring him back toAmerica.
Now, why is that?
(08:09):
What kind of arrogance is this?
That he should be in America,not El Salvador.
Is El Salvador unfit for humanlife?
Because if it is, someone shouldtell the Global Peace Index
because on the Global PeaceIndex, the US ranks way down at
number 132.
(08:31):
El Salvador is much higherranked number 1 0 7, and we
wanna talk about three othercountries and their rankings.
That'd be Nicaragua, Guatemala,and Honduras.
All of those rank higher on theGlobal Peace Index than the
(08:52):
United States does.
And those three countries, alongwith El Salvador.
They form what's called theCentral America four, or the ca
four.
Most Americans have never heardof this, but it's a real, it's a
formal agreement.
It's kind of like a miniSchengen zone for our European
(09:13):
listeners.
The citizens of El Salvador,Guatemala, Honduras, and
Nicaragua are allowed to travelfreely across each other's
borders without visas.
They're free to live to work.
Freely across multiplecountries.
So if you are a refugee, why notjust go to one of these other
(09:36):
three countries?
That's your choice.
If you really are in fear ofyour life in El Salvador, even
with all the gangs eliminated,just go to Guatemala.
You're in a country that speaksthe same language.
This has a similar culture andincreasingly they have safer
(09:57):
cities than parts of the UnitedStates.
So tell us again, why doesGarcia need to be in our country
if he's afraid of gangs?
Nayib Bukele wiped them out.
El Salvador is safer thanChicago, and granted that might
be a low bar.
(10:18):
But if you believe all of theprogressive talking points that
America is full of fascists,white supremacists, racist cops,
then it's actually moredangerous to send someone like
Garcia here.
I, The real arrogance ispretending that only in America
can you find dignity, safety,and opportunity while
(10:43):
simultaneously screaming thatAmerica is a a racist hellhole.
Pick a lane, pick one lane andstay in it.
Let's try to think outside thebox.
Let's break this down in a waythat anybody can follow.
Let's say you're at a movietheater.
Now there's a group of nineteenagers and they're causing a
(11:05):
scene down front.
They're loud, disruptive,ignoring the rules.
The ushers finally kick out allnine.
No time to sort them out.
Everybody goes.
Once they're in the lobby, threeof the boys start explaining
themselves.
The first kid says, I wasn'teven making noise.
(11:30):
And he is telling the truth, andthey agreed to let him go back
in and just show his ticket tothe ticket taker.
But he has no ticket.
He wasn't supposed to be therein the first place.
So the usher says, no ticket, noentry, and that's the end of
(11:53):
that.
The second kid says he wasn'tmaking noise either, but it
turns out he's too young to beat that movie.
The Usher checks his ID realizeshe's not even supposed to be out
this late.
They call his parents and hegets to go home with a scolding
and a new curfew.
(12:16):
Then there's the third kid.
He explains that he wasn't partof the rowdy group.
He was actually in the wrongtheater by mistake.
He has a ticket, but it was fora different screen.
He wanted to leave, but the loudkids wouldn't let him out.
The usher checks sees the ticketis valid and escorts him to the
(12:39):
right theater.
He thanks them and goes on toenjoy the movie.
Now, which one of these fourexamples fits kil Ma Garcia?
Is he one of the noise makers?
Is he the kid that wasn't makingnoise, didn't have a ticket, the
kid that wasn't making noise butis too young or the kid in the
(13:01):
wrong theater?
The third protesting kid.
That's Kmar Garcia.
Or at least the version ofGarcia that we hope is true.
Maybe he wasn't part of a gang.
Maybe he just ended up in thewrong place at the wrong time
without a clear way back.
(13:23):
Either way, he didn't belong inthe theater where he was, but he
does have a valid ticket for adifferent one.
El Salvador.
And instead of throwing him outon the street, we sent him home
to his own country with all therights of his home country, with
(13:44):
family, with free healthcare,and with safer streets than
Baltimore.
It is not exile, it's notpunishment.
It's not a Russian gulag.
It's a reward.
It is a win for him, a win forus, and a win for the system if
(14:06):
he's telling the truth.
But that's a judgment for hisgovernment now, and we respect
El Salvador enough to trust themwith their own citizens.
The left says we're treating himlike the first kid, just dumping
him out unfairly.
Others say, we're like thetreating him like the second kid
booting him for, for being inthe wrong place, but the truth,
(14:30):
this was the third scenario.
He went home peacefully,rightfully, that's not a
scandal, that's how it'ssupposed to work.
Now, let's be honest, thefeminists, the liberals, and the
Democrats waving signs andchanting slogans.
They don't care about Kilmore,Abrego Garcia.
(14:54):
They don't care about you.
They don't care about the law orthe border, or even El Salvador.
They only care about one thingfighting Trump.
It doesn't matter what the issueis.
Tariffs, immigration, publicsafety, or the weather report,
they'll take the opposite sidejust to stay angry.
(15:19):
And all we have to do to keepwinning.
Stand for the law, stand for thecountry.
Stand for common sense.
The case for Kmar Garcia isn'tcomplicated.
He entered illegally.
He stayed illegally.
He was returned legally.
(15:40):
He belongs to El Salvador.
And El Salvador belongs to him.
If the left truly respectedinternational law, sovereignty,
or diversity, they'd celebratethat.
Instead, they rage because theylost and the law won.
And that my friend, is whatterrifies them.
(16:01):
Tell a friend about the 10th ManPodcast and thank you for
listening.
They say it was a human rights violation, a due
process disaster, and aconstitutional crisis.
How the expulsion of Kmar AbregoGarcia is exactly what's
supposed to happen today on the10th Man.
(00:33):
We are diving today into theso-called outrage about the
removal of Kilmar Abrego Garcia,the Salvadoran National who was
brace yourselves, sent back toEl Salvador.
Leftists are screaming about.
Due process and constitutionalviolations, human rights abuses,
(00:58):
all the while pretending theyactually know what a nation is,
or a citizen, or even aborderer.
So here's a little spoil.
Alert.
Garcia was not deported.
Garcia was repatriated, which iswhat you call it when you return
(01:19):
someone to his own country.
The, the one you're an actualcitizen of.
So let's try and get itstraight.
This claim of an abuse ofconstitutional rights, people
claim abuse of constitutional
rights these days.
The way kids claim abuse whenyou tell'em to put their cell
(01:40):
phone down.
It reminds me of the old, uh,Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
You're repressing me.
You're repressing me.
You see how I'm being repressed.
And it's a comical, it's acomical routine sketch in that
movie.
And the left acts like everydisagreement with their agenda
(02:03):
is a First Amendment crisis or aviolation of some part of the
constitution.
You can't tell your neighbor, toturn the music down without
someone invoking the Bill ofRights and now telling.
And.
Illegal immigrant.
He can't live here forever.
That's somehow a 14th amendmentcase.
(02:25):
Uh, it's like Monty Python.
It's actually parody, but inthis case, they're actually
serious.
I, let's talk about what dueprocess actually is, because if
you're not arrested, notimprisoned, and not denied a
trial while being in prison.
(02:46):
You haven't been denied dueprocess, and that's the big
claim about Garcia.
But Kmar Garcia was not throwninto a gulag.
He was put on a plane and senthome.
That's not a denial of rights.
That's actually a privilege inaddition to being enforcement of
(03:08):
the law.
It is really amazing that thisis taking place at the same time
as other events withoutcomparisons being made, because
meanwhile, across the world,there is real injustice taking
place.
Ksenia, Carolina, it's probablyCarolina, an American ballet
(03:29):
dancer.
This girl was locked up in aRussian prison.
For expressing an opinion andthe US government had to
negotiate, had to fight for herrelease and actually exchange a
prisoner for her.
Now, were there any massprotests for her when her actual
(03:52):
true rights were being violatedwhen she was an actual true
victim?
Were there any activists who aremarching for Garcia?
Marching for, uh, KseniaCarolina.
Well, we know the answer tothat, of course not.
So Garcia the criminal,regardless of anybody's opinion
(04:12):
about whether he's being treatedharshly based on his crimes, but
he's still a criminal, but hegets more sympathy than an
innocent victim who was not justlet go but thrown into jail.
We just have a situation ofjudicial abuse the judges seem
to have an idea.
(04:33):
They're working under a myth ofhaving total jurisdiction.
And yes, there is a judge whocalled Garcia's, uh, expulsion
apparently illegal.
But the thing is.
His presence in the UnitedStates was illegal.
And if it's a gray area and his,his expulsion wasn't gone about
(04:55):
in the most proper way, fine,but the result's the same.
He's out of the country, wherehe should be.
He never should have been here.
He's gone now.
The solved, and we'll give you alittle allegory, a little, a
little story that exemplifiesthis and.
Uh, even if this is a legal grayarea, it's only such because
(05:18):
activists, judges, they keepcoloring outside the lines
because courts don't get to ruleevery single aspect of American
life.
Uh, but that's what they'retrying to do.
But that's not how a functioningsystem works.
Like, think about doctors doingtriage.
(05:39):
There's a, train wreck, somesort of disaster where multiple
people have taken to the, theemergency room.
Well, the doctors have to decidewho to work on first.
Are you gonna bring in a judgeand demand due process to get to
the front of the line?
Because that's what it is.
It's a matter of choices doingthis versus that.
(05:59):
If you go to Disney World, theDisney ride operators decide.
Who's too short to get on theride?
You can't get a court injunctionto override what the, what the
ride operators say based on theguidelines of the, of the park.
And you don't get to sue anightclub for not letting you in
when they, they've reached theirmaximum or they think you've had
(06:20):
too much to drink.
Immigration is very similar.
We have immigration officers whoare assigned.
It's their job to decide.
Who belongs here and everysovereign nation operates the
same way.
They have immigration officers.
it's not authoritarianism, it'snot Nazism.
(06:41):
It's just how every countryworks and how every country has
to work.
It couldn't be any, any otherway.
A question I would like to askin some of these cases, when
judges rule, they rule that thisor that method of enforcing
immigration law was not theright way to do it.
Well, fine, we all know thatimmigration law has to be
(07:02):
enforced.
If not this way, then how?
How is the president supposed todo?
What is his actual job enforcingthe law?
But beyond all this, let's takea new look at this whole
immigrant rights movement andlook at the arrogance of the
(07:23):
movement.
So let's say this very loud,Kmar Garcia is a citizen of El
Ador.
He wasn't deported, he wasrepatriated.
The same way we'd want KseniaCarolina brought back to the US
Garcia was returned to his homecountry.
(07:48):
Now if the protestors wanted toget him out of Sea Cot, El
Salvador's, supermax prison,they might have a point, even
though that's a question for ElSalvador, not for us, but they
might have a point.
Yeah, but that isn't what theirpoint is.
They want to bring him back toAmerica.
Now, why is that?
(08:09):
What kind of arrogance is this?
That he should be in America,not El Salvador.
Is El Salvador unfit for humanlife?
Because if it is, someone shouldtell the Global Peace Index
because on the Global PeaceIndex, the US ranks way down at
number 132.
(08:31):
El Salvador is much higherranked number 1 0 7, and we
wanna talk about three othercountries and their rankings.
That'd be Nicaragua, Guatemala,and Honduras.
All of those rank higher on theGlobal Peace Index than the
(08:52):
United States does.
And those three countries, alongwith El Salvador.
They form what's called theCentral America four, or the ca
four.
Most Americans have never heardof this, but it's a real, it's a
formal agreement.
It's kind of like a miniSchengen zone for our European
(09:13):
listeners.
The citizens of El Salvador,Guatemala, Honduras, and
Nicaragua are allowed to travelfreely across each other's
borders without visas.
They're free to live to work.
Freely across multiplecountries.
So if you are a refugee, why notjust go to one of these other
(09:36):
three countries?
That's your choice.
If you really are in fear ofyour life in El Salvador, even
with all the gangs eliminated,just go to Guatemala.
You're in a country that speaksthe same language.
This has a similar culture andincreasingly they have safer
(09:57):
cities than parts of the UnitedStates.
So tell us again, why doesGarcia need to be in our country
if he's afraid of gangs?
Nayib Bukele wiped them out.
El Salvador is safer thanChicago, and granted that might
be a low bar.
(10:18):
But if you believe all of theprogressive talking points that
America is full of fascists,white supremacists, racist cops,
then it's actually moredangerous to send someone like
Garcia here.
I, The real arrogance ispretending that only in America
can you find dignity, safety,and opportunity while
(10:43):
simultaneously screaming thatAmerica is a a racist hellhole.
Pick a lane, pick one lane andstay in it.
Let's try to think outside thebox.
Let's break this down in a waythat anybody can follow.
Let's say you're at a movietheater.
Now there's a group of nineteenagers and they're causing a
(11:05):
scene down front.
They're loud, disruptive,ignoring the rules.
The ushers finally kick out allnine.
No time to sort them out.
Everybody goes.
Once they're in the lobby, threeof the boys start explaining
themselves.
The first kid says, I wasn'teven making noise.
(11:30):
And he is telling the truth, andthey agreed to let him go back
in and just show his ticket tothe ticket taker.
But he has no ticket.
He wasn't supposed to be therein the first place.
So the usher says, no ticket, noentry, and that's the end of
(11:53):
that.
The second kid says he wasn'tmaking noise either, but it
turns out he's too young to beat that movie.
The Usher checks his ID realizeshe's not even supposed to be out
this late.
They call his parents and hegets to go home with a scolding
and a new curfew.
(12:16):
Then there's the third kid.
He explains that he wasn't partof the rowdy group.
He was actually in the wrongtheater by mistake.
He has a ticket, but it was fora different screen.
He wanted to leave, but the loudkids wouldn't let him out.
The usher checks sees the ticketis valid and escorts him to the
(12:39):
right theater.
He thanks them and goes on toenjoy the movie.
Now, which one of these fourexamples fits kil Ma Garcia?
Is he one of the noise makers?
Is he the kid that wasn't makingnoise, didn't have a ticket, the
kid that wasn't making noise butis too young or the kid in the
(13:01):
wrong theater?
The third protesting kid.
That's Kmar Garcia.
Or at least the version ofGarcia that we hope is true.
Maybe he wasn't part of a gang.
Maybe he just ended up in thewrong place at the wrong time
without a clear way back.
(13:23):
Either way, he didn't belong inthe theater where he was, but he
does have a valid ticket for adifferent one.
El Salvador.
And instead of throwing him outon the street, we sent him home
to his own country with all therights of his home country, with
(13:44):
family, with free healthcare,and with safer streets than
Baltimore.
It is not exile, it's notpunishment.
It's not a Russian gulag.
It's a reward.
It is a win for him, a win forus, and a win for the system if
(14:06):
he's telling the truth.
But that's a judgment for hisgovernment now, and we respect
El Salvador enough to trust themwith their own citizens.
The left says we're treating himlike the first kid, just dumping
him out unfairly.
Others say, we're like thetreating him like the second kid
booting him for, for being inthe wrong place, but the truth,
(14:30):
this was the third scenario.
He went home peacefully,rightfully, that's not a
scandal, that's how it'ssupposed to work.
Now, let's be honest, thefeminists, the liberals, and the
Democrats waving signs andchanting slogans.
They don't care about Kilmore,Abrego Garcia.
(14:54):
They don't care about you.
They don't care about the law orthe border, or even El Salvador.
They only care about one thingfighting Trump.
It doesn't matter what the issueis.
Tariffs, immigration, publicsafety, or the weather report,
they'll take the opposite sidejust to stay angry.
(15:19):
And all we have to do to keepwinning.
Stand for the law, stand for thecountry.
Stand for common sense.
The case for Kmar Garcia isn'tcomplicated.
He entered illegally.
He stayed illegally.
He was returned legally.
(15:40):
He belongs to El Salvador.
And El Salvador belongs to him.
If the left truly respectedinternational law, sovereignty,
or diversity, they'd celebratethat.
Instead, they rage because theylost and the law won.
And that my friend, is whatterrifies them.
(16:01):
Tell a friend about the 10th ManPodcast and thank you for
listening.
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