August 24, 2024 • 52 mins
Join John and Mary on the latest episode of The Terrphy Show as they dive into the emotional rollercoaster of social media and its impact on their lives. Mary drops a truth bomb about wanting to quit social media after being overwhelmed by distressing content, particularly involving animal abuse. They discuss the mental toll of constant exposure to negative videos and the need to step back for mental well-being.
The conversation takes an interesting turn as they explore the financial and emotional aspects of their lives. They share how they manage to live a fulfilling life on a budget, including their tips for vacationing at Disney without breaking the bank. From thrifting to strategic spending, John and Mary emphasize the importance of time and intentional living over keeping up with societal expectations.
With candid reflections on beauty standards and the pressures of social media, this episode is a heartfelt discussion on living authentically and valuing what truly matters. Tune in for a refreshing take on simplifying life and finding joy in the little things.
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Music.
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All right welcome welcome back to the turfy show oh well
that was you want to
start over no that was just fine um
but welcome back to the turfy show everybody um i'm the john man i threw john
off apparently and two on the opposite side of me is miss mary how the hell
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is everyone doing tonight mary how the hell are you doing tonight well i was doing fine until i
saw that picture our podcast picture so that's
from two years ago two a
year that's when we first moved here so yeah so two years ago and i just feel
like when i look in the mirror i don't see that what do you see not that like
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but it's funny because at that point in time i probably saw the The same thing I see now. Yeah.
Okay, I want to hear your bomb before I deep dive into that.
Oh, my bomb. Yes. You have a bomb. I have a truth bomb.
So a little bit. Okay, so. Are we doing video too? No, it's just a static image. Okay, I'm like.
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We are live on multiple platforms. Okay. My truth bomb is I've been talking
about this for a little bit.
Maybe a lot of it. And I think it might happen Okay I'm gonna get rid of social
media Oh Right Okay But while I was
setting up this podcast And getting everything ready I was on my TikToks,
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And I just watched someone That had to adopt a shit ton of dogs Because they
were abused And all this stuff And Like I know that dogs get abused And animals get abused,
I just don't want to see it And like I am I'm either gonna start adopting A
shit ton of dogs Or I gotta get off social media,
I know nine times out of ten if I'm crying
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why am I crying a dog video
on social media yeah so it's just
like I I either need to become a solution
to the problem or I got to be oblivious to the problem like I I don't have the
mental capacity anymore and I wish it wasn't like this but I don't have the
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mental capacity anymore to watch these type of like watch that type of content
okay here Here, can I give you my opinion on this?
Yes. I think that, yes, we can feel empathy for those videos.
Okay? Like, that is sad shit, and we are animal lovers.
Like, if you guys don't know, our dogs live the best, they live a better life than most humans.
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Just go check out their socials, at Mr. Bruno the Basset, or at Mr.
Bruno underscore the Basset. Not a plug.
This is just a point. like if you want to know the extremes we go for our animals
that's somewhere to start.
But we can do like each person
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can only do what they can do right like you
and i can donate to shelters you and i can make sure
our animals have the best life that they can you and i can make sure like for
example the art i bought this week the proceeds go to animal shelters yeah my
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dog has He's a micro-influencer.
I don't even know that I would call him an influencer, but I do,
about every six months, I do a charity run for dogs.
At the end of the day, those videos, I understand they're there to bring awareness,
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but the only people to engage with them are people like you and I,
where we're already doing everything we can.
Yeah. I mean it's just sad because it's like when it's like one state away you're
like I am fucking close enough to like adopt a hundred dogs,
but can we actually adopt a hundred dogs no but it makes me sad that I cannot adopt a hundred dogs.
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Because we can't like I think having a dog is a privilege it is it's like having kids it's a privilege,
well I guess that's whatever yeah
that's a whole other topic but i mean vet bills
toenail trims baths training toys
love and care love and care walking energy
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ever like we're getting
rid of our carpet because it smells like dog so like
that's an expense that we wouldn't
have if we didn't have dogs right like but i'm
not gonna not let my dogs downstairs stairs furniture you
know like we need new couches but i
don't want to buy new couches because i have dogs so yeah
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i mean and i'm gonna let my dogs on my couches they're just hurry
you know they should like but that's nothing
they can do like they're not doing anything wrong like that's
their human nature that's their dog nature i don't
know i just maybe that's not a good reason to
get rid of socials but like i was just like fuck man like i
can't i just can't anymore you can't do
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the downer videos anymore no and like that's
all my socials are anymore it's just just downer videos decisive videos you
know i just i can't i don't have the mental capacity for everything that's going
on in the world anymore like i used to think when we first started this podcast
in 2020 like that was the low of the low of the low and i was fucking wrong.
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Like, I feel like 2024 is, like, the low of the low of the low.
Really? I do. Like, emotionally or socially? For me, yes.
Just, like, progressively as a human society. Okay.
Like, you need to be more specific here. Yeah, just, like, progressively as a human society.
Like, from 2019 to now, it has just gotten fucking terrible.
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You know? And you can hear the dogs in the background.
Wait, you doing trauma, mama? Oh, that's Bruno.
We got our non-vocal dog being vocal right now.
We do, it's because the other one's playing with his toy. He doesn't even play with that toy.
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You know, so, a funny thing about what's been going on with Canton lately is
he is playing with toys lately just to annoy the shit out of his brother and to get a reaction.
It's funny. And like the reaction he gets is like, and then he'll play with
it. He's like, I'm not paying attention to you. Nope. Nope.
And then Bruno will like throw a little bit of a fit and then like take the
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toy and then they're just off playing, playing, playing, playing.
It's almost like Canton's doing it just to get Bruno to play with him.
Get Bruno to play. He figured out how to finally get Bruno to play with him
because it used to be Canton would just yell at Bruno, like play with me,
play with me, play with me.
And now, Kenton's figured out how to pique Bruno's interest.
Yeah. I think it's cute as fuck. It is cute. I mean, because yesterday,
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we were on the patio, hanging out, drinking a seltzer water.
A seltzer water. I was like, we didn't drink last night. Oh,
sorry. Sparkling water.
And we were just defragging from work. And I saw my little baby Kenton.
He had like fucking three toys on his dog bed.
All three of which Bruno plays with. and he was like going back and forth of
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like chewing on each one and Bruno was just sitting there watching him play
with all three of his favorite toys you know and.
I know Kenton's just doing it just to get Bruno's attention. So he plays with them.
Because now Kenton right now, now that he has Bruno's attention,
is like rolling over on and doing all these things. And it's funny.
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They are funny. So again, like we already have two dogs, right?
Like we're at max capacity for dogs.
We cannot save. For our lifestyle. We cannot save 100. No. I mean,
I don't want to say we struggle with two.
But it is a challenge to have two.
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I think two is a perfect amount, even though sometimes I want to get a dog for
my second dog, but we can't, we can not have a third dog.
I like having to makes me regret not having a second when we had our first. Oh, for sure.
Cause they are just, they love each other so much. And obviously they love them
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humans and they both get human time, but the amount of affection they have for
each other is just like nothing I've ever seen before which also stresses me out,
yeah because they're pretty close in age buddy,
you're just being a drama yeah.
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But they're fucking cute. Yeah, so they're a year apart.
A year and a month. Yeah. Like, they're super close in age.
Kind of like you and I are. Mm-hmm. You know? Mm-hmm.
So if the younger one goes, and this is just like me and John,
if the younger one goes first in 50 years, we're going to be fine.
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But if the older one goes first, we are not going to be fine.
Because canton our little baby and don't get us wrong bruno is our like no he is our baby.
But our younger one was a rescue and for all intents and purposes was a rescue
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and his separation anxiety is real like i was in it's the older one's birthday
tomorrow this is ridiculous I don't care if you guys judge us.
I don't care if we lose followers because of this.
But so my older dog's birthday is tomorrow, which, yes, I got a puppy safe cake
and I was locked in the room wrapping his presents.
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And the younger one, Canton, was crying at the door because he didn't have access to me.
Even though Bruno was laying on my lap, I was in the same like I was in the
same room as Canton. I was in the same room as Canton. All three of you were
in the same room. Yeah, we were downstairs.
All four of us were downstairs. You were just in your office wrapping presents.
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I was in the living room of the basement hanging out with Bruno.
Bruno was on my lap, and Canton was like, I can't see all of my family.
I'm going to freak out. Yeah.
Bruno was inside at the vet today. Okay, so Canton got his nails done first
at the vet. Fine. Okay, cool.
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Then Bruno went into the vet and he could not see his brother and he lost his fucking shit.
Like, I don't even know how to explain it. Like, and it is, like, the saddest cry.
It is. It is sad. It's almost like he's hurt.
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Like, I have had people be like, oh, my God, is he hurt? Is his leg broken?
And I'm like, no, you just can't see his brother.
And I think that's, like, one of the only downsides to Canton is he has, like, severe anxiety.
And severe separation anxiety, too. severe separation and mary likes to call
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him my dog because i have those things and then obviously when bruno has his
problems like he's my dog because i have those type of things.
But no and i have thought about getting some like cbd ears something just to
calm him down just a little bit like i don't want his personality to be gone
like i just feel bad because i know it
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stresses him out so bad when he can't, if he does not have access to all four of us, like, okay.
So when John leaves for work in the morning, you leave for work around nine.
Canton does not come downstairs. He sits in the window for two hours waiting for you to come back.
He does not like give up on you coming home until like 1045,
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11 o'clock. Why did you just tell me that?
I didn't want to hear that. That's so fucking sad. It is fucking sad.
And then when I get off work, so at 520, they come down to let me know it's
time for me to be off work.
And I'll like depending I've been working a little bit later because, you know, life.
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And then between 545 and six o'clock, they will not leave the window because
they know you're on your way home.
That's so cute. I know. And then if they, like, even if you just go out to water the lawn, it's like.
Yeah. Depending on the circumstance. Like, usually if I go out to water the
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lawn, they'll be fine with it.
But if it's like a time of day to where Canton knows he usually gets a ride
or a walk, he knows it's like, bitch, I'm supposed to be with you right now. Yeah.
Like, he knows time schedules. Like, he is on a time schedule.
He knows exactly when he's supposed to be fed.
Yeah. Yeah, which makes me, it does make me want to get a fence for the front,
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just so he could go water with you.
Yeah, I mean, I'd be fine with that. Or so that I could let them out to greet you, you know?
I mean, I do want to get like a little tiny picket fence. I think it would be
cute as fuck in our house.
I agree. You know, we would have like the cutest picket fence in the world.
Agreed. Plus the postman would stop fucking walking on my lawn.
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He wouldn't. He would just step over the top and. He would.
Which it is what it is. It is. he has a hard job i
mean we all have hard jobs but i
digress but so anyhow
that's our dogs in a nutshell i mean
then we you know it's so that's i
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guess so do we have time energy finances effort
to adopt more dogs no but we
do have time energy and finances to make these
two's life the best weekend the best and like and
and when we donate and do charitable events you know we don't have kids so of
course they're gonna go to animals you know because i think animals are way
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better than people agreed canton you're being the boy that cried wolf he like
bruno yelled at me looked up at you like dad are you gonna save me.
Yeah we don't deserve animals okay so you're gonna delete all your socials i
don't know how i'm gonna delete them i'm just gonna like put them on hold
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so take them off your phone yeah because i know like on like facebook facebook
for sure i think i'm gonna i'm gonna do like i think there's this mode to where
you could like i forgot what it's called to where you could like not delete
it but kind of like go away from it you know like just take a break.
I think I just need to take a break from socials.
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I've been slowly doing that with... My battery is dead.
I don't have any more in there. But I have the same oil as you.
I've been slowly doing that with a lot of my socials.
I haven't posted on Instagram since I got my last tattoo.
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Really, my only social media that I really post on is the dogs.
Yeah like i haven't posted on facebook
and i don't know how long maybe two
or three anniversaries ago and like
i will check in on facebook and like scroll it to see if
like anyone has said something stupid or funny same with
instagram but i don't actively engage in any of my socials anymore so i guess
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it's like i'm in the steps of not being on social media yeah i I kind of feel
like social media has made me disappointed in the human race. How so?
Just in like how divided we are, regardless of your political stance.
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The shit you see like how angry people get
about how other people live live their
life it's like dude you live your life let
them live theirs like if this girl listen i didn't i did i went to college but
not traditional college i'm a hairstylist by fucking trade so you went to a
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trade school i went to a trade school you also got your teaching degree in that
trade school yeah but But that's all besides the point.
So if Sally went to school for technology and Sally spent six years getting
her bachelor's and Sally makes $200,000 a year.
Good for Sally. And she's discussing the issues that she's having with her finances
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due to student loan debt, being a high income earner and unrealistic expectations
of what she thought she could afford.
And now that her family is struggling i don't
think it's appropriate for somebody who didn't go to college
who lives in rural america
and when you look at like spend dollars to
spend dollars to be like well it'd be nice to make two hundred
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thousand dollars a year but like the
whole fucking point is being missed in that right and people will like or even
vice versa right like bob bob Bob went to fucking chiropractor school and he
has a successful practice and he's judging Sam who never had the opportunity
to go to college and can't like get ahead.
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Right. Like his luck wasn't there or his family wasn't established enough.
Like I just, I get sick of seeing people shitting on other people for where they are in their lives.
Like it doesn't matter where you're at. Like if you can't.
If you can't meet somebody where they're at, I think you're a shitty human.
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Yeah. And I think we're like in this.
So it's like, oh, if I had those resources or I could do it better,
or if I didn't have the resources, this is what I would do to make it better.
It's like, dude, like for one, this person is not you.
Right. And you don't, you don't actually know what's going on in their life
to like make it to where they're struggling or not.
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You know, it's like you and I, like we have been together for almost 17 years.
And we have had the lowest of lows the highest
of highs and we are in like a good spot
i think financially and like we
are more financially secure now than we have ever been right i i don't know
because i did make a lot of fucking money when i was traveling you did i would
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say equal but our expenses were higher because we lived in a major city i would
say so i would say it's equal.
So for the past work we do
not have much like we live to a tight budget that
tight budget does include entertainment and
we can supply everything we need are we loaded abso-fucking-lutely not like
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everything is a budget we do not have fuck you money but But we are able to
pay all of our bills and have an entertainment budget.
But with that being said, even though you did travel and you were making really
good money while you were traveling, our position right now is stable.
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Yeah. because we were both working corporate jobs which
gives us a paycheck every two weeks versus the
other times like oh you can have a slow week or
you could have a fucking bomb ass three weeks right like i was all
independent contractors so like we never knew when that money was actually gonna
come yeah and yes you made you took a pay cut coming here but it was always
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hard to budget your money because you never knew you can make fucking an ungodly
amount one One month and nothing the next.
And then the other thing that we don't talk about. So when I say stable,
it's like more financially stable as we get pre-planned.
Like we're able to actually budget. Yes.
Like and budget to like the line item.
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Something else that isn't talked about is everything's on the value of money.
Right. Like the financial value of something.
But something that you don't i don't
hear talked about enough are you talking about me or just in general and i think
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people are going to come at us because i used to think this too like oh well
once you have enough money like this is the next topic of conversation blah blah blah but,
When I look back, I did make more money then, right?
Like if you like a cumulative total, like, yes, it was more stressful.
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And we had to like kind of just rat hole all our money.
We actually spent less of our expenditure income then because we never knew
when we were going to get the next paycheck because of the nature of the jobs that I did.
Yeah. But with that came a time sacrifice.
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Like, I never saw my family. Like, when I tell you before we moved,
before we made the move we made, so two years ago,
the only way I had a day off with my husband, and I'm talking a day off.
Like, we did not have the typical, oh, you know, you're a family,
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you have Saturday, Sunday off together.
The only way we ever had a day off is if it was Christmas, Thanksgiving, or I took a day off.
We never had days off together until we moved here. We had to very much so plan those days off.
Right. Like, literally never a day off. Like if we went to Disney,
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obviously we had days off together, but we'd have to like super plan those days. Yeah.
And don't come at us for going to Disney either. Cause you can go to Disney on a budget.
We have for years. For years. And we'll do it again. For 10 years.
We're going on Disney on a budget this year too. A hundred percent.
And if any, like I can tell anybody how to do Disney on a budget, like an affordable.
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Yeah. Do you have to sacrifice eating in the park? Yeah.
Do you have to plan a little and have food delivered to you?
Yes. Do you need to pack a specific type of lunchbox to keep things cool?
Yes. Do you need to drink some nasty chlorine water because you don't want to
spend $5 on a water bottle? Yes.
I mean, the water is getting better, though. The water is getting better.
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We have water refill stations now.
Do you need a new outfit for every day? No.
Can you go to Goodwill before and find like five to, you know,
two to five dollar shirts for your trip?
Yes. Like, I think that, I don't know, I'm on a tangent because I think that
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there's like so much overconsumption, too.
And then everybody thinks that every vacation and everything you do has to like
have all these things, right? Right.
Like people think for like a vacation, like Disney, because we do Disney a lot
and everybody tells me, oh, it must be nice.
And it's like, I won't sit here and tell you that Disney is not expensive.
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I will not ever be like, no.
Are there affordable ways to do Disney? Yes. You can stay off property.
You can drive. And we we do have a benefit that I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about.
Sure. I mean, I work at an airport. Okay. John works at an airport.
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We do have standby flights.
So for us to fly, it's the same to drive.
Like for us, like that's a very, like that saves us quite a bit of money.
Staying off site saves quite a bit of money.
Us saying, okay, we're not going to eat in park except for like,
we'll get like a Dole Whip and like a mint julep.
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Right? And maybe one or two nice dinners. The whole trip.
The whole trip. So we'll maybe spend, with grocery delivery,
400 max for the whole week on food.
I think that's being generous. I do too. I think that that's over the top.
I think you could account for our shopping with that too. Agreed.
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And we don't like, but it's like, you know, when you're shopping for merch,
it's like, do you go to, you know, do you go to Disney Springs or downtown Disney,
downtown Disney to do your shopping to where it might be a little bit cheaper
where they have clearance items like in the park?
Right. You know, do you like.
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So. So I mean, I will say, yes, we do splurge while we're on vacation,
but we splurge on like things that like we're not going to splurge.
It's not like all of a sudden we have fuck you money when we're on vacation.
It's like, all right. So we paid for everything in advance.
Either we got a good deal on it. We booked travel through Costco or however
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to get a deal on these hotels.
Like our next trip coming up, we got 40% off our hotel.
And then if we would have booked a different trip, we wait till almost the last
minute because we would have got $300 off the hotel if we would have stayed- Per night.
Per night if we would have stayed at a normal place.
Yeah. We're trying something different. We're going to a different state,
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a different Disney. We're going to world instead of land.
But how Mary and I do it, we almost book it almost last minute because that's
when the best deals come because we just had a coupon to where the hotel we usually stay at. is.
$300 cheaper than what it is per night
per night per night then and
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we've never paid the full price for this hotel no so it's
an off-site hotel it we normally pay
max 150 per night max and i
mean that's like it's an off-site hotel but you
know they they know the system to where
they could charge until the oh shit
deadline were not booked and then they they they throw
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down these discounts accounts and then all of a sudden that's where
mary and i swoop in it's like okay fuck yeah you know
we'll get this 150 night and all of
a sudden our four nights that we're staying there only
cost 600 total for hotels for
hotels yeah you know and like
so that's that saved us or that would have saved us or has saved us in the past
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thousands of dollars we we don't stay at disneyland hotel no because we order
groceries and we eat sandwiches in the park we take snacks.
But that allows us you know we don't buy new clothes to like if if there's something
it's like oh i have to have a churro we're not going to feel guilty about it
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right you know but we also know it's like we have these snacks that are going
to keep us full we have water that's going to keep
us you know hydrated so if we want
like special snacks we're not doing it all day even down
to i order coffee with our grocery delivery and
coffee goes in like we put coffee
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in a water bottle yeah and
that's our coffee for the day and we don't do starbies every day
you know like so it it is
saying like okay like i'm gonna be budget conscious and
then the other thing about this too is i'm somehow
we're on financial advice right now i have no idea financial disney
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advice by the way like i don't like we went
from not doing socials to
not doing socials people judging people for their
incomes and not knowing their situation to financial advice for vacationing
disney specific vacation it's because that's like our experience but and that's
our adhd because we can't stay focused on one fucking thing so But whatever
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vacation it is, and here's the other thing.
I want to be clear. Like, we have one car.
Well, we have two cars, but we have one car payment. The other car is a 1991.
So we have an 11-year-old car, and we have a 32-year-old car. Right.
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We live in a very modest home. Like, we live in a modest home in a modest neighborhood. Right.
Nothing flashing nothing like you it is very
it's 1960s yeah like and then
1960s it was the cookie cutter house yeah and
our neighborhood's cute and i love it and that's not
what i'm saying but i'm saying we live in a very modest home
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yeah i mean compared to homes these days honestly
i love it way more like i would like i
would rather live in that think about this like
edward scissor hands the theming of that you know
with the avon lady fucking knocking on your door and
whatever that when this house was
built that what was going on yeah you know so like
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we live in a cute neighborhood yeah like it's older it's cute as shit
but now you know but we live in a modest home
but what was it like 57 years later
yeah it's it's old now it's old
we live in an old house yeah it's cute you
know it's been updated for the most
part but i but it's still even the updating isn't like like our countertop is
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a home depot special our counters are like builders grade cheap-ass cabinets
like our carpets builders grade like we live in a modest home yeah very much like Like,
so the rest of the year,
outside of that one vacation we take a year,
we live very frugally. Like, we live within our means.
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And that looks different for everybody. And because this is what it looks like
for us doesn't mean that, like, we should judge somebody else,
you know, is the moral of all of that.
But I think everybody picks and chooses what they spend their money on.
And we pick and choose to spend our money at Disney, budget style.
Well, and I think that, you know, like, the way you and I live is,
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I mean, sometimes we get a little bit of judge for it because we don't keep up with the Joneses.
Yeah, we don't. And there is a little judge there.
There is. And, like, Mary and I, we're very in tune of what Mary and John like.
Like, these are the things we're going to focus on. Like, yes,
I have, like, projects and stuff that I focus on and stuff that I like.
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You know but mary and john
we have both taken those things that we've liked
and we've built upon these things for you know 10 15 years like i have a shit
ton of music equipment that like i've acquired through the years so yes i'm
going to use that to you know help with the podcast and help with my sound system and my.
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You know, and so like we put things together because that's what we have.
And we become little tiny micro professionals and experts at these little hyper focuses we have.
But like we don't go out and we're not flashy. We don't have a razor.
We don't have an RV. We don't have a boat.
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We don't have three cars. We don't have a hundred thousand dollar truck.
We don't have a landscaper. We don't have a house cleaner.
I mean we might get the house cleaner honestly i
mean quality of life yeah we might get
the house cleaner the landscaper like i think i've been doing a decent enough
job to like not need one like i feel like our yard's nice right like i've done
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a good job so you know like to where i wouldn't need one but like i think it
like landscaper would just be a time.
Saver it's it's the only reason we would maybe
like the labor the actual labor of it can
you please lay these rocks and do this cement path that i want
to do but i just can't fucking get to it yeah because you
don't have the time yeah but like mary and i like we
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fucking we don't have toys and to
be quite honest like maybe that's a good flaw that
we've had that we've never actually wanted those toys i don't get
my hair done i don't get my nails done i do get a pedicure
about every three months i don't buy
expensive makeup i do buy like
i i to like tiktok
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social media terms i don't
buy expensive skincare i i
feel like it's unless you find something that works yeah and
then you will the other thing is we're very strategic about the
money we spend if there is something that works or
something you're gonna have long term we will spend the extra money so
we're not buying it every single right so like
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my my favorite sandals right they're 150 but i've
had the pair i have right now i've had for three years yeah
so it's like i'll spend the money on those like the you know the i'll spend
money on quality things that i know are going to be a every day or every summer
every winter right like i spent some good money i spent I spent $200 on snow boots this year.
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And they've been a great investment. But in the winter, that is literally the
only pair of shoes I wear is my snow boots.
You bought a really nice purse, but you know that that purse is specifically
not made for you, but it fits every single thing that you need. Right.
And it's really decent quality. It's not going to fall apart next week,
right? Like it's going to be a two to five year purse.
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And it has a warranty, you know, same with some of the shit I buy,
you know, like I buy things that are going to last.
And sometimes the things that last do cost a little bit more money,
but we're strategic about what we buy in those aspects.
But on the other hand, we went to Goodwill today and I bought,
I was like, I need some new clothes. Like just like switch up the closet.
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And I spent $20 and got, four
shirts today and i was like okay cool like you know
like these are all good brands they all look fairly new
like they just need a good wash and well i
have one of my polos is a 75
polo but we got
second hand and there's nothing wrong
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with it there's no stains on it it fits like a 75
polo but we got it for like
three dollars yeah i don't even
think i paid that for it you know so it's just like of course
like there's honestly the other thrift store
is better for those for you yeah but you know it's like things like that you
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know like we're we do buy new things but we're also like and this is something
that like i will praise mary and i for like not the toot our own horn but fucking
might as well toot our own horn it's our podcast we do
whatever the fuck we want. Like, we are thrifters.
We've always been thrifters. Like, our whole life.
I think that comes from when we were, like, so poor that it was,
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like, literally all we could afford was, like, a $5 couch.
And that's, we're old, so we used to be able to get $5 couches from Goodwill.
Or free. Or free. You know, but, like, we fucking, we're thrifters.
And we always thrift, like, shit that can be thrifted.
I think every purchase we make, It's just like, okay, is this something that
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we could afford the brand we want?
Yes or no? No. Okay.
Well, let's hit the thrift stores for the next few weeks and see if we can find
something comparable within the budget of what we're able to spend.
If it's yes, then it's like, okay. For a coffee maker.
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Okay. We drink coffee every... We're coffee drinkers.
Okay, is this something that would be worth saving up for?
You know, it's, I don't know, anything. I don't know, I think Mary and I,
like we're pretty decent with the way we spend our money because like we don't
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overdo things. We overdo food.
We overdo food. That's one thing that we have a flaw in.
But then again, like, you know, when we go out on a Friday night and have a
couple of drinks and have a good meal.
Fuck you can't even go to the movies anymore for less
than 100 bucks so you know
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when we have a few drinks have a couple good meals we both
don't have to cook we could just sit down
at a table talk drink a beer not have
to worry about cooking food for ourselves or cleaning or
any of that that's worth it to us like that that
that's time because once you
put in cleaning once you put in in cooking once you
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put in i mean there's the beer's always stocked in our fridges but
once you put in cooking and cleaning at that
time like we've just lost time being able to hang out with
each other and connect after a long ass week you know we wasted that cooking
and cleaning and by the time we're done eating cooking and cleaning and drinking
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a beer it's bedtime yeah you know But that circles back to the time factor that I was talking about.
Yeah, it does. Circles way back.
Time is everything.
I know. I mean, people say time is money, but time is so much more than money.
I think time is...
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I mean, I think people say money can't buy you happiness.
And I think at a certain price, it could help with happiness.
Happiness but i think time helps with happiness i agree you know because once you have time.
And chris sorry we don't do call-ins but you're more than welcome to chat and we'll read them out,
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once you have time to do things after being an adult i feel like that makes you happy,
does that make sense what i'm trying to say like when your time is your
own or not just my own
but like i have time to hang out with my wife's wife wife's
wife wife's wife's
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yeah another wife you ain't telling me about i mean depending on
the personality i'm just kidding i'm just
kidding i jokes time
to hang out with my dogs you know like and a lot of the time I have to make
time for it because I have to be unselfish in how I spend my time when I'm trying
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to defrag and that's something that I have to work on too it's like when I'm
defragging I have to like.
I know that I need a few minutes, but I don't need to take that few minutes into a few hours.
Like I need to be able to. You need to figure out how to cope with it.
I think within an hour. Yeah.
It's a fair and reasonable time frame. Yeah.
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And maybe like that's something I need to work on to be like, okay, I got an hour.
Like it's when you take the entire evening. That's when it's like, all right.
And we're both guilty of that. you know i i i'm not saying just oh yeah yeah
i know i'm just saying we're both guilty of like spending way too much time
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with our coping mechanisms you know.
So i don't know but you know i i need to be better about making time for,
you know my family instead of coming in the house and kicking my dogs and slapping
my wife saying fuck you guys no i don't do that chris we don't take call-ins sorry sir.
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Slapping my wife could you imagine now i'd get the shit kicked out of me,
so hard oh my gosh but no
no i mean i think you know once you
kind of i think everyone it's kind
of been a you know let's let's figure this shit
out you know type of phase it's everyone that
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i talk to at least yeah i don't i think
it's just a challenge with the state of our world right now yep
and like capitalistic society and political
tension and keeping up with the joneses keeping up with the joneses and like
we're in like mass consumerism right now and it's making up for that covid it's
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insane shit i guess like it's like you guys don't have to have the latest and the greatest.
You don't have to have every piece of makeup.
You don't have to have every new hair care line. You don't have to have the new car.
You don't have to have name brand clothes. Like,
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And maybe it's always been that way. Maybe it's just like heightened now with social media.
But it's like, okay, you know, I got one foundation. I don't need three more
because I want to try a new one, you know?
Well, I think like, especially with like the makeup scene, like you have these
makeup influencers, you know, that are obviously getting their shit for free.
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Or if they're not getting their shit for free, they're obviously making money
with the content because they keep pumping it out, right?
Like, of course, they're going
to have every single shade, every single product, every single brand.
But the way they portray that is that you should, too.
You should, too. And you need it. Every single brush, every single pencil,
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every single sharpener. It's like, no, you need your staples.
Like, what foundation is good? What sealer is good? What SPF if I'm going out there?
What eyebrow pencil do I need? what you know
mascara do i need what is my favorite lipstick okay so
you have your foundation of your four favorites you know
like and after that do you need more no no no because after that in my opinion
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do you need a cream brush blush and a powder blush and a bronzer a cream bronze
bronzer and a powder bronzer and then a liquid eyeliner and then a powder eyeliner like sure.
Yeah if you want your makeup to last forever and ever
and ever you should do all these steps but most of
us work a fucking eight hour day and that's
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all you needed to last and most of us don't need to look
like we're on a magazine cover right you know it's like i'm
sorry like i like real looking people and like
not every single woman needs to look
different like so drastically drastically different
and this is a this is like i think the
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bad and we only have a few minutes left this
is like one of the bad things about social media and and
influencing like you are
influencing these people to put
on all of this and this has been for
decades like all this makeup all this
product to be the person that you want to be
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right to the point to where
when that makeup is not on you are not the person and
you look completely different it's almost like being catfished you
know it's like why change yourself here like
i understand wear makeup it makes you it should be an enhancement exactly an
enhancement you don't need makeup to be beautiful use the makeup to use Use
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your beauty that you already have and enhance it to make,
to, to feel better, right?
Like, okay, we're going out for a special dinner.
Feel, I just want a little pop with it, right? We're going out in town,
just a little pop, but you don't.
Not every single person
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every single day seven days a week
365 should have 13
layers of makeup on you know like
that shouldn't be the standard the standard the new
trend right now it's your makeup's not lasting enough you're not.
Using enough yeah and that shouldn't be the standard because.
You know what people like you and i you
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because you wear makeup i do not you don't
have have the luxury of spending an hour and a half in the
bathroom every day to look like this
other person for an hour like for
a meeting or for a night out you know like
an hour a week and why can't we just take this natural
beauty of everyone that wears makeup and
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just enhance that instead of
making this makeup your identity the identity
should be you which is real for me like it's
like so i worked in the beauty industry for
15 years i switched careers and not
wearing makeup is real for me but also
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i'm too fucking tired and wore out to do makeup every day
like i'm in my i'm exhausted and don't care
right now era but it is hard because
i even with makeup i don't look like myself at
this moment in time i don't feel but without
makeup i'm like who the fuck are you like
looking back at me i well and
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to be quite honest you're millennial and millennials are fucking heavy on that
makeup i've cut way back on my makeup no you have but i'm just like you were
kind of you were uh raised with makeup i remember when i was in like early high
school and women men would have or girls at that time would have like fucking.
Layers of makeup different shades and you could see where they did their makeup
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and not did their makeup around their jawline and like it was just layer upon
layer upon layer upon layer.
Maybe that's the feminist to me and just like you don't really need all that
you know like fucking i don't like maybe i'm different like i don't need all
the makeup like honestly like women have,
way better features than men will ever have and
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those features are just fine
by themselves you know yeah i know
i feel like mascara goes a long way though a little
bit of eyebrow goes a long way i mean yes but
that's a little bit of mascara a little bit of eyebrow it is
not a two and a half hour let's
get this person like hollywood style
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makeup photo shoot john's on catfish tiktok right now in case you didn't know
no well some of it is catfish like i some of it but i don't know i don't know
i just think that it doesn't need to be as extreme the standard.
And have you seen beauty standards lately i
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mean i i follow a lot of tiktok people
or not follow but like they come across their like
my feed and i will say some do or
do not have teeth and like they
just like yes they look really like
they look beautiful with their makeup on well they
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also look good without their makeup on but it's like
i don't know it's like i i don't know maybe now
i'm just rambling you got me in a fucking loop it's okay
you got me a loop social media
cancel it yeah because you went
from caring about dogs to caring about these women that don't need to wear all
the makeup they don't they don't oh my god we told somebody at the bar tonight
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john was a feminist and the whole entire bar went silent well it wasn't a bar
it was the pub and And then they didn't talk about us,
like talk with us like the rest of the night. Yeah.
Because I was like, oh, he'll take her side no matter what. Well,
the thing is, I was taking her side. Oh, you were? Yeah. And maybe that's why they got into a fight.
What were you taking her side about? What was the drama?
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So he's 10 years older than her. Right. And then me, our bartender and her,
we were all born in the same year.
And we were just like talking BS and like calling him an old man.
And she's like, well, that's why I call him daddy. Cause he's so old.
She was like, then you'll be calling him daddy too. I was like,
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give it a little bit of time and I'll be calling him daddy. Yeah. You know?
Cause so we ended up basically making fun of this girl's fucking boyfriend,
boyfriend for being old.
And I guess kind of ganged up on him. So that's probably why they were fighting.
Well, I was nice. I told him he didn't look that old.
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He also said, it doesn't matter what your girlfriend thinks,
John's going to take her side. Yeah. I did.
Yeah. So, there was that.
Which I did. Well, because I like her.
Like, I don't mind. She's feisty, but she is. And I don't mind her boyfriend
either. They're both nice.
They're nice people. Like, we see them probably once a month at the pub. You know? Yeah.
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Maybe if we're not going to the pub that often, in every other
month every other month so yeah like we've
seen them i don't want to say regularly but often
so they are more so their
schedule is later later saturdays
our other friends are earlier saturdays
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earlier saturdays and we're like kind of in between
like all these people we're gonna go like all
the people that we kind of hang out with always gets out before rowdy crowd
starts yeah so like that we got some early
earlier friends we got some mid friends and
then we got us that are kind of like the in-between sporadics and
more like well like we'll show up at like 4 30 which
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is kind of like when the day drinkers start going home and
then we start like hanging out for a couple drinks and like
an appetizer and then we're gone
at like you know 5 30 or 6 but fun
stuff anyway so that's all we got for the
trippy show thanks for hanging out with us you guys sorry we went on such a
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hard tangent yeah you don't need to wear that much makeup i'm gonna i'm about
to pee my pants all right go pee your pants we love you guys we'll talk to you
uh next time we talk to you thanks for hanging out see ya,
Thank you.
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Music.
Music.
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All right welcome welcome back to the turfy show oh well
that was you want to
start over no that was just fine um
but welcome back to the turfy show everybody um i'm the john man i threw john
off apparently and two on the opposite side of me is miss mary how the hell
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is everyone doing tonight mary how the hell are you doing tonight well i was doing fine until i
saw that picture our podcast picture so that's
from two years ago two a
year that's when we first moved here so yeah so two years ago and i just feel
like when i look in the mirror i don't see that what do you see not that like
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but it's funny because at that point in time i probably saw the The same thing I see now. Yeah.
Okay, I want to hear your bomb before I deep dive into that.
Oh, my bomb. Yes. You have a bomb. I have a truth bomb.
So a little bit. Okay, so. Are we doing video too? No, it's just a static image. Okay, I'm like.
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We are live on multiple platforms. Okay. My truth bomb is I've been talking
about this for a little bit.
Maybe a lot of it. And I think it might happen Okay I'm gonna get rid of social
media Oh Right Okay But while I was
setting up this podcast And getting everything ready I was on my TikToks,
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And I just watched someone That had to adopt a shit ton of dogs Because they
were abused And all this stuff And Like I know that dogs get abused And animals get abused,
I just don't want to see it And like I am I'm either gonna start adopting A
shit ton of dogs Or I gotta get off social media,
I know nine times out of ten if I'm crying
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why am I crying a dog video
on social media yeah so it's just
like I I either need to become a solution
to the problem or I got to be oblivious to the problem like I I don't have the
mental capacity anymore and I wish it wasn't like this but I don't have the
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mental capacity anymore to watch these type of like watch that type of content
okay here Here, can I give you my opinion on this?
Yes. I think that, yes, we can feel empathy for those videos.
Okay? Like, that is sad shit, and we are animal lovers.
Like, if you guys don't know, our dogs live the best, they live a better life than most humans.
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Just go check out their socials, at Mr. Bruno the Basset, or at Mr.
Bruno underscore the Basset. Not a plug.
This is just a point. like if you want to know the extremes we go for our animals
that's somewhere to start.
But we can do like each person
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can only do what they can do right like you
and i can donate to shelters you and i can make sure
our animals have the best life that they can you and i can make sure like for
example the art i bought this week the proceeds go to animal shelters yeah my
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dog has He's a micro-influencer.
I don't even know that I would call him an influencer, but I do,
about every six months, I do a charity run for dogs.
At the end of the day, those videos, I understand they're there to bring awareness,
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but the only people to engage with them are people like you and I,
where we're already doing everything we can.
Yeah. I mean it's just sad because it's like when it's like one state away you're
like I am fucking close enough to like adopt a hundred dogs,
but can we actually adopt a hundred dogs no but it makes me sad that I cannot adopt a hundred dogs.
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Because we can't like I think having a dog is a privilege it is it's like having kids it's a privilege,
well I guess that's whatever yeah
that's a whole other topic but i mean vet bills
toenail trims baths training toys
love and care love and care walking energy
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ever like we're getting
rid of our carpet because it smells like dog so like
that's an expense that we wouldn't
have if we didn't have dogs right like but i'm
not gonna not let my dogs downstairs stairs furniture you
know like we need new couches but i
don't want to buy new couches because i have dogs so yeah
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i mean and i'm gonna let my dogs on my couches they're just hurry
you know they should like but that's nothing
they can do like they're not doing anything wrong like that's
their human nature that's their dog nature i don't
know i just maybe that's not a good reason to
get rid of socials but like i was just like fuck man like i
can't i just can't anymore you can't do
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the downer videos anymore no and like that's
all my socials are anymore it's just just downer videos decisive videos you
know i just i can't i don't have the mental capacity for everything that's going
on in the world anymore like i used to think when we first started this podcast
in 2020 like that was the low of the low of the low and i was fucking wrong.
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Like, I feel like 2024 is, like, the low of the low of the low.
Really? I do. Like, emotionally or socially? For me, yes.
Just, like, progressively as a human society. Okay.
Like, you need to be more specific here. Yeah, just, like, progressively as a human society.
Like, from 2019 to now, it has just gotten fucking terrible.
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You know? And you can hear the dogs in the background.
Wait, you doing trauma, mama? Oh, that's Bruno.
We got our non-vocal dog being vocal right now.
We do, it's because the other one's playing with his toy. He doesn't even play with that toy.
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You know, so, a funny thing about what's been going on with Canton lately is
he is playing with toys lately just to annoy the shit out of his brother and to get a reaction.
It's funny. And like the reaction he gets is like, and then he'll play with
it. He's like, I'm not paying attention to you. Nope. Nope.
And then Bruno will like throw a little bit of a fit and then like take the
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toy and then they're just off playing, playing, playing, playing.
It's almost like Canton's doing it just to get Bruno to play with him.
Get Bruno to play. He figured out how to finally get Bruno to play with him
because it used to be Canton would just yell at Bruno, like play with me,
play with me, play with me.
And now, Kenton's figured out how to pique Bruno's interest.
Yeah. I think it's cute as fuck. It is cute. I mean, because yesterday,
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we were on the patio, hanging out, drinking a seltzer water.
A seltzer water. I was like, we didn't drink last night. Oh,
sorry. Sparkling water.
And we were just defragging from work. And I saw my little baby Kenton.
He had like fucking three toys on his dog bed.
All three of which Bruno plays with. and he was like going back and forth of
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like chewing on each one and Bruno was just sitting there watching him play
with all three of his favorite toys you know and.
I know Kenton's just doing it just to get Bruno's attention. So he plays with them.
Because now Kenton right now, now that he has Bruno's attention,
is like rolling over on and doing all these things. And it's funny.
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They are funny. So again, like we already have two dogs, right?
Like we're at max capacity for dogs.
We cannot save. For our lifestyle. We cannot save 100. No. I mean,
I don't want to say we struggle with two.
But it is a challenge to have two.
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I think two is a perfect amount, even though sometimes I want to get a dog for
my second dog, but we can't, we can not have a third dog.
I like having to makes me regret not having a second when we had our first. Oh, for sure.
Cause they are just, they love each other so much. And obviously they love them
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humans and they both get human time, but the amount of affection they have for
each other is just like nothing I've ever seen before which also stresses me out,
yeah because they're pretty close in age buddy,
you're just being a drama yeah.
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But they're fucking cute. Yeah, so they're a year apart.
A year and a month. Yeah. Like, they're super close in age.
Kind of like you and I are. Mm-hmm. You know? Mm-hmm.
So if the younger one goes, and this is just like me and John,
if the younger one goes first in 50 years, we're going to be fine.
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But if the older one goes first, we are not going to be fine.
Because canton our little baby and don't get us wrong bruno is our like no he is our baby.
But our younger one was a rescue and for all intents and purposes was a rescue
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and his separation anxiety is real like i was in it's the older one's birthday
tomorrow this is ridiculous I don't care if you guys judge us.
I don't care if we lose followers because of this.
But so my older dog's birthday is tomorrow, which, yes, I got a puppy safe cake
and I was locked in the room wrapping his presents.
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And the younger one, Canton, was crying at the door because he didn't have access to me.
Even though Bruno was laying on my lap, I was in the same like I was in the
same room as Canton. I was in the same room as Canton. All three of you were
in the same room. Yeah, we were downstairs.
All four of us were downstairs. You were just in your office wrapping presents.
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I was in the living room of the basement hanging out with Bruno.
Bruno was on my lap, and Canton was like, I can't see all of my family.
I'm going to freak out. Yeah.
Bruno was inside at the vet today. Okay, so Canton got his nails done first
at the vet. Fine. Okay, cool.
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Then Bruno went into the vet and he could not see his brother and he lost his fucking shit.
Like, I don't even know how to explain it. Like, and it is, like, the saddest cry.
It is. It is sad. It's almost like he's hurt.
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Like, I have had people be like, oh, my God, is he hurt? Is his leg broken?
And I'm like, no, you just can't see his brother.
And I think that's, like, one of the only downsides to Canton is he has, like, severe anxiety.
And severe separation anxiety, too. severe separation and mary likes to call
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him my dog because i have those things and then obviously when bruno has his
problems like he's my dog because i have those type of things.
But no and i have thought about getting some like cbd ears something just to
calm him down just a little bit like i don't want his personality to be gone
like i just feel bad because i know it
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stresses him out so bad when he can't, if he does not have access to all four of us, like, okay.
So when John leaves for work in the morning, you leave for work around nine.
Canton does not come downstairs. He sits in the window for two hours waiting for you to come back.
He does not like give up on you coming home until like 1045,
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11 o'clock. Why did you just tell me that?
I didn't want to hear that. That's so fucking sad. It is fucking sad.
And then when I get off work, so at 520, they come down to let me know it's
time for me to be off work.
And I'll like depending I've been working a little bit later because, you know, life.
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And then between 545 and six o'clock, they will not leave the window because
they know you're on your way home.
That's so cute. I know. And then if they, like, even if you just go out to water the lawn, it's like.
Yeah. Depending on the circumstance. Like, usually if I go out to water the
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lawn, they'll be fine with it.
But if it's like a time of day to where Canton knows he usually gets a ride
or a walk, he knows it's like, bitch, I'm supposed to be with you right now. Yeah.
Like, he knows time schedules. Like, he is on a time schedule.
He knows exactly when he's supposed to be fed.
Yeah. Yeah, which makes me, it does make me want to get a fence for the front,
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just so he could go water with you.
Yeah, I mean, I'd be fine with that. Or so that I could let them out to greet you, you know?
I mean, I do want to get like a little tiny picket fence. I think it would be
cute as fuck in our house.
I agree. You know, we would have like the cutest picket fence in the world.
Agreed. Plus the postman would stop fucking walking on my lawn.
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He wouldn't. He would just step over the top and. He would.
Which it is what it is. It is. he has a hard job i
mean we all have hard jobs but i
digress but so anyhow
that's our dogs in a nutshell i mean
then we you know it's so that's i
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guess so do we have time energy finances effort
to adopt more dogs no but we
do have time energy and finances to make these
two's life the best weekend the best and like and
and when we donate and do charitable events you know we don't have kids so of
course they're gonna go to animals you know because i think animals are way
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better than people agreed canton you're being the boy that cried wolf he like
bruno yelled at me looked up at you like dad are you gonna save me.
Yeah we don't deserve animals okay so you're gonna delete all your socials i
don't know how i'm gonna delete them i'm just gonna like put them on hold
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so take them off your phone yeah because i know like on like facebook facebook
for sure i think i'm gonna i'm gonna do like i think there's this mode to where
you could like i forgot what it's called to where you could like not delete
it but kind of like go away from it you know like just take a break.
I think I just need to take a break from socials.
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I've been slowly doing that with... My battery is dead.
I don't have any more in there. But I have the same oil as you.
I've been slowly doing that with a lot of my socials.
I haven't posted on Instagram since I got my last tattoo.
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Really, my only social media that I really post on is the dogs.
Yeah like i haven't posted on facebook
and i don't know how long maybe two
or three anniversaries ago and like
i will check in on facebook and like scroll it to see if
like anyone has said something stupid or funny same with
instagram but i don't actively engage in any of my socials anymore so i guess
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it's like i'm in the steps of not being on social media yeah i I kind of feel
like social media has made me disappointed in the human race. How so?
Just in like how divided we are, regardless of your political stance.
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The shit you see like how angry people get
about how other people live live their
life it's like dude you live your life let
them live theirs like if this girl listen i didn't i did i went to college but
not traditional college i'm a hairstylist by fucking trade so you went to a
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trade school i went to a trade school you also got your teaching degree in that
trade school yeah but But that's all besides the point.
So if Sally went to school for technology and Sally spent six years getting
her bachelor's and Sally makes $200,000 a year.
Good for Sally. And she's discussing the issues that she's having with her finances
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due to student loan debt, being a high income earner and unrealistic expectations
of what she thought she could afford.
And now that her family is struggling i don't
think it's appropriate for somebody who didn't go to college
who lives in rural america
and when you look at like spend dollars to
spend dollars to be like well it'd be nice to make two hundred
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thousand dollars a year but like the
whole fucking point is being missed in that right and people will like or even
vice versa right like bob bob Bob went to fucking chiropractor school and he
has a successful practice and he's judging Sam who never had the opportunity
to go to college and can't like get ahead.
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Right. Like his luck wasn't there or his family wasn't established enough.
Like I just, I get sick of seeing people shitting on other people for where they are in their lives.
Like it doesn't matter where you're at. Like if you can't.
If you can't meet somebody where they're at, I think you're a shitty human.
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Yeah. And I think we're like in this.
So it's like, oh, if I had those resources or I could do it better,
or if I didn't have the resources, this is what I would do to make it better.
It's like, dude, like for one, this person is not you.
Right. And you don't, you don't actually know what's going on in their life
to like make it to where they're struggling or not.
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You know, it's like you and I, like we have been together for almost 17 years.
And we have had the lowest of lows the highest
of highs and we are in like a good spot
i think financially and like we
are more financially secure now than we have ever been right i i don't know
because i did make a lot of fucking money when i was traveling you did i would
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say equal but our expenses were higher because we lived in a major city i would
say so i would say it's equal.
So for the past work we do
not have much like we live to a tight budget that
tight budget does include entertainment and
we can supply everything we need are we loaded abso-fucking-lutely not like
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everything is a budget we do not have fuck you money but But we are able to
pay all of our bills and have an entertainment budget.
But with that being said, even though you did travel and you were making really
good money while you were traveling, our position right now is stable.
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Yeah. because we were both working corporate jobs which
gives us a paycheck every two weeks versus the
other times like oh you can have a slow week or
you could have a fucking bomb ass three weeks right like i was all
independent contractors so like we never knew when that money was actually gonna
come yeah and yes you made you took a pay cut coming here but it was always
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hard to budget your money because you never knew you can make fucking an ungodly
amount one One month and nothing the next.
And then the other thing that we don't talk about. So when I say stable,
it's like more financially stable as we get pre-planned.
Like we're able to actually budget. Yes.
Like and budget to like the line item.
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Something else that isn't talked about is everything's on the value of money.
Right. Like the financial value of something.
But something that you don't i don't
hear talked about enough are you talking about me or just in general and i think
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people are going to come at us because i used to think this too like oh well
once you have enough money like this is the next topic of conversation blah blah blah but,
When I look back, I did make more money then, right?
Like if you like a cumulative total, like, yes, it was more stressful.
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And we had to like kind of just rat hole all our money.
We actually spent less of our expenditure income then because we never knew
when we were going to get the next paycheck because of the nature of the jobs that I did.
Yeah. But with that came a time sacrifice.
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Like, I never saw my family. Like, when I tell you before we moved,
before we made the move we made, so two years ago,
the only way I had a day off with my husband, and I'm talking a day off.
Like, we did not have the typical, oh, you know, you're a family,
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you have Saturday, Sunday off together.
The only way we ever had a day off is if it was Christmas, Thanksgiving, or I took a day off.
We never had days off together until we moved here. We had to very much so plan those days off.
Right. Like, literally never a day off. Like if we went to Disney,
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obviously we had days off together, but we'd have to like super plan those days. Yeah.
And don't come at us for going to Disney either. Cause you can go to Disney on a budget.
We have for years. For years. And we'll do it again. For 10 years.
We're going on Disney on a budget this year too. A hundred percent.
And if any, like I can tell anybody how to do Disney on a budget, like an affordable.
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Yeah. Do you have to sacrifice eating in the park? Yeah.
Do you have to plan a little and have food delivered to you?
Yes. Do you need to pack a specific type of lunchbox to keep things cool?
Yes. Do you need to drink some nasty chlorine water because you don't want to
spend $5 on a water bottle? Yes.
I mean, the water is getting better, though. The water is getting better.
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We have water refill stations now.
Do you need a new outfit for every day? No.
Can you go to Goodwill before and find like five to, you know,
two to five dollar shirts for your trip?
Yes. Like, I think that, I don't know, I'm on a tangent because I think that
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there's like so much overconsumption, too.
And then everybody thinks that every vacation and everything you do has to like
have all these things, right? Right.
Like people think for like a vacation, like Disney, because we do Disney a lot
and everybody tells me, oh, it must be nice.
And it's like, I won't sit here and tell you that Disney is not expensive.
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I will not ever be like, no.
Are there affordable ways to do Disney? Yes. You can stay off property.
You can drive. And we we do have a benefit that I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about.
Sure. I mean, I work at an airport. Okay. John works at an airport.
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We do have standby flights.
So for us to fly, it's the same to drive.
Like for us, like that's a very, like that saves us quite a bit of money.
Staying off site saves quite a bit of money.
Us saying, okay, we're not going to eat in park except for like,
we'll get like a Dole Whip and like a mint julep.
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Right? And maybe one or two nice dinners. The whole trip.
The whole trip. So we'll maybe spend, with grocery delivery,
400 max for the whole week on food.
I think that's being generous. I do too. I think that that's over the top.
I think you could account for our shopping with that too. Agreed.
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And we don't like, but it's like, you know, when you're shopping for merch,
it's like, do you go to, you know, do you go to Disney Springs or downtown Disney,
downtown Disney to do your shopping to where it might be a little bit cheaper
where they have clearance items like in the park?
Right. You know, do you like.
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So. So I mean, I will say, yes, we do splurge while we're on vacation,
but we splurge on like things that like we're not going to splurge.
It's not like all of a sudden we have fuck you money when we're on vacation.
It's like, all right. So we paid for everything in advance.
Either we got a good deal on it. We booked travel through Costco or however
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to get a deal on these hotels.
Like our next trip coming up, we got 40% off our hotel.
And then if we would have booked a different trip, we wait till almost the last
minute because we would have got $300 off the hotel if we would have stayed- Per night.
Per night if we would have stayed at a normal place.
Yeah. We're trying something different. We're going to a different state,
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a different Disney. We're going to world instead of land.
But how Mary and I do it, we almost book it almost last minute because that's
when the best deals come because we just had a coupon to where the hotel we usually stay at. is.
$300 cheaper than what it is per night
per night per night then and
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we've never paid the full price for this hotel no so it's
an off-site hotel it we normally pay
max 150 per night max and i
mean that's like it's an off-site hotel but you
know they they know the system to where
they could charge until the oh shit
deadline were not booked and then they they they throw
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down these discounts accounts and then all of a sudden that's where
mary and i swoop in it's like okay fuck yeah you know
we'll get this 150 night and all of
a sudden our four nights that we're staying there only
cost 600 total for hotels for
hotels yeah you know and like
so that's that saved us or that would have saved us or has saved us in the past
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thousands of dollars we we don't stay at disneyland hotel no because we order
groceries and we eat sandwiches in the park we take snacks.
But that allows us you know we don't buy new clothes to like if if there's something
it's like oh i have to have a churro we're not going to feel guilty about it
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right you know but we also know it's like we have these snacks that are going
to keep us full we have water that's going to keep
us you know hydrated so if we want
like special snacks we're not doing it all day even down
to i order coffee with our grocery delivery and
coffee goes in like we put coffee
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in a water bottle yeah and
that's our coffee for the day and we don't do starbies every day
you know like so it it is
saying like okay like i'm gonna be budget conscious and
then the other thing about this too is i'm somehow
we're on financial advice right now i have no idea financial disney
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advice by the way like i don't like we went
from not doing socials to
not doing socials people judging people for their
incomes and not knowing their situation to financial advice for vacationing
disney specific vacation it's because that's like our experience but and that's
our adhd because we can't stay focused on one fucking thing so But whatever
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vacation it is, and here's the other thing.
I want to be clear. Like, we have one car.
Well, we have two cars, but we have one car payment. The other car is a 1991.
So we have an 11-year-old car, and we have a 32-year-old car. Right.
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We live in a very modest home. Like, we live in a modest home in a modest neighborhood. Right.
Nothing flashing nothing like you it is very
it's 1960s yeah like and then
1960s it was the cookie cutter house yeah and
our neighborhood's cute and i love it and that's not
what i'm saying but i'm saying we live in a very modest home
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yeah i mean compared to homes these days honestly
i love it way more like i would like i
would rather live in that think about this like
edward scissor hands the theming of that you know
with the avon lady fucking knocking on your door and
whatever that when this house was
built that what was going on yeah you know so like
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we live in a cute neighborhood yeah like it's older it's cute as shit
but now you know but we live in a modest home
but what was it like 57 years later
yeah it's it's old now it's old
we live in an old house yeah it's cute you
know it's been updated for the most
part but i but it's still even the updating isn't like like our countertop is
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a home depot special our counters are like builders grade cheap-ass cabinets
like our carpets builders grade like we live in a modest home yeah very much like Like,
so the rest of the year,
outside of that one vacation we take a year,
we live very frugally. Like, we live within our means.
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And that looks different for everybody. And because this is what it looks like
for us doesn't mean that, like, we should judge somebody else,
you know, is the moral of all of that.
But I think everybody picks and chooses what they spend their money on.
And we pick and choose to spend our money at Disney, budget style.
Well, and I think that, you know, like, the way you and I live is,
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I mean, sometimes we get a little bit of judge for it because we don't keep up with the Joneses.
Yeah, we don't. And there is a little judge there.
There is. And, like, Mary and I, we're very in tune of what Mary and John like.
Like, these are the things we're going to focus on. Like, yes,
I have, like, projects and stuff that I focus on and stuff that I like.
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You know but mary and john
we have both taken those things that we've liked
and we've built upon these things for you know 10 15 years like i have a shit
ton of music equipment that like i've acquired through the years so yes i'm
going to use that to you know help with the podcast and help with my sound system and my.
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You know, and so like we put things together because that's what we have.
And we become little tiny micro professionals and experts at these little hyper focuses we have.
But like we don't go out and we're not flashy. We don't have a razor.
We don't have an RV. We don't have a boat.
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We don't have three cars. We don't have a hundred thousand dollar truck.
We don't have a landscaper. We don't have a house cleaner.
I mean we might get the house cleaner honestly i
mean quality of life yeah we might get
the house cleaner the landscaper like i think i've been doing a decent enough
job to like not need one like i feel like our yard's nice right like i've done
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a good job so you know like to where i wouldn't need one but like i think it
like landscaper would just be a time.
Saver it's it's the only reason we would maybe
like the labor the actual labor of it can
you please lay these rocks and do this cement path that i want
to do but i just can't fucking get to it yeah because you
don't have the time yeah but like mary and i like we
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fucking we don't have toys and to
be quite honest like maybe that's a good flaw that
we've had that we've never actually wanted those toys i don't get
my hair done i don't get my nails done i do get a pedicure
about every three months i don't buy
expensive makeup i do buy like
i i to like tiktok
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social media terms i don't
buy expensive skincare i i
feel like it's unless you find something that works yeah and
then you will the other thing is we're very strategic about the
money we spend if there is something that works or
something you're gonna have long term we will spend the extra money so
we're not buying it every single right so like
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my my favorite sandals right they're 150 but i've
had the pair i have right now i've had for three years yeah
so it's like i'll spend the money on those like the you know the i'll spend
money on quality things that i know are going to be a every day or every summer
every winter right like i spent some good money i spent I spent $200 on snow boots this year.
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And they've been a great investment. But in the winter, that is literally the
only pair of shoes I wear is my snow boots.
You bought a really nice purse, but you know that that purse is specifically
not made for you, but it fits every single thing that you need. Right.
And it's really decent quality. It's not going to fall apart next week,
right? Like it's going to be a two to five year purse.
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And it has a warranty, you know, same with some of the shit I buy,
you know, like I buy things that are going to last.
And sometimes the things that last do cost a little bit more money,
but we're strategic about what we buy in those aspects.
But on the other hand, we went to Goodwill today and I bought,
I was like, I need some new clothes. Like just like switch up the closet.
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And I spent $20 and got, four
shirts today and i was like okay cool like you know
like these are all good brands they all look fairly new
like they just need a good wash and well i
have one of my polos is a 75
polo but we got
second hand and there's nothing wrong
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with it there's no stains on it it fits like a 75
polo but we got it for like
three dollars yeah i don't even
think i paid that for it you know so it's just like of course
like there's honestly the other thrift store
is better for those for you yeah but you know it's like things like that you
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know like we're we do buy new things but we're also like and this is something
that like i will praise mary and i for like not the toot our own horn but fucking
might as well toot our own horn it's our podcast we do
whatever the fuck we want. Like, we are thrifters.
We've always been thrifters. Like, our whole life.
I think that comes from when we were, like, so poor that it was,
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like, literally all we could afford was, like, a $5 couch.
And that's, we're old, so we used to be able to get $5 couches from Goodwill.
Or free. Or free. You know, but, like, we fucking, we're thrifters.
And we always thrift, like, shit that can be thrifted.
I think every purchase we make, It's just like, okay, is this something that
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we could afford the brand we want?
Yes or no? No. Okay.
Well, let's hit the thrift stores for the next few weeks and see if we can find
something comparable within the budget of what we're able to spend.
If it's yes, then it's like, okay. For a coffee maker.
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Okay. We drink coffee every... We're coffee drinkers.
Okay, is this something that would be worth saving up for?
You know, it's, I don't know, anything. I don't know, I think Mary and I,
like we're pretty decent with the way we spend our money because like we don't
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overdo things. We overdo food.
We overdo food. That's one thing that we have a flaw in.
But then again, like, you know, when we go out on a Friday night and have a
couple of drinks and have a good meal.
Fuck you can't even go to the movies anymore for less
than 100 bucks so you know
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when we have a few drinks have a couple good meals we both
don't have to cook we could just sit down
at a table talk drink a beer not have
to worry about cooking food for ourselves or cleaning or
any of that that's worth it to us like that that
that's time because once you
put in cleaning once you put in in cooking once you
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put in i mean there's the beer's always stocked in our fridges but
once you put in cooking and cleaning at that
time like we've just lost time being able to hang out with
each other and connect after a long ass week you know we wasted that cooking
and cleaning and by the time we're done eating cooking and cleaning and drinking
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a beer it's bedtime yeah you know But that circles back to the time factor that I was talking about.
Yeah, it does. Circles way back.
Time is everything.
I know. I mean, people say time is money, but time is so much more than money.
I think time is...
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I mean, I think people say money can't buy you happiness.
And I think at a certain price, it could help with happiness.
Happiness but i think time helps with happiness i agree you know because once you have time.
And chris sorry we don't do call-ins but you're more than welcome to chat and we'll read them out,
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once you have time to do things after being an adult i feel like that makes you happy,
does that make sense what i'm trying to say like when your time is your
own or not just my own
but like i have time to hang out with my wife's wife wife's
wife wife's wife's
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yeah another wife you ain't telling me about i mean depending on
the personality i'm just kidding i'm just
kidding i jokes time
to hang out with my dogs you know like and a lot of the time I have to make
time for it because I have to be unselfish in how I spend my time when I'm trying
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to defrag and that's something that I have to work on too it's like when I'm
defragging I have to like.
I know that I need a few minutes, but I don't need to take that few minutes into a few hours.
Like I need to be able to. You need to figure out how to cope with it.
I think within an hour. Yeah.
It's a fair and reasonable time frame. Yeah.
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And maybe like that's something I need to work on to be like, okay, I got an hour.
Like it's when you take the entire evening. That's when it's like, all right.
And we're both guilty of that. you know i i i'm not saying just oh yeah yeah
i know i'm just saying we're both guilty of like spending way too much time
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with our coping mechanisms you know.
So i don't know but you know i i need to be better about making time for,
you know my family instead of coming in the house and kicking my dogs and slapping
my wife saying fuck you guys no i don't do that chris we don't take call-ins sorry sir.
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Slapping my wife could you imagine now i'd get the shit kicked out of me,
so hard oh my gosh but no
no i mean i think you know once you
kind of i think everyone it's kind
of been a you know let's let's figure this shit
out you know type of phase it's everyone that
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i talk to at least yeah i don't i think
it's just a challenge with the state of our world right now yep
and like capitalistic society and political
tension and keeping up with the joneses keeping up with the joneses and like
we're in like mass consumerism right now and it's making up for that covid it's
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insane shit i guess like it's like you guys don't have to have the latest and the greatest.
You don't have to have every piece of makeup.
You don't have to have every new hair care line. You don't have to have the new car.
You don't have to have name brand clothes. Like,
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And maybe it's always been that way. Maybe it's just like heightened now with social media.
But it's like, okay, you know, I got one foundation. I don't need three more
because I want to try a new one, you know?
Well, I think like, especially with like the makeup scene, like you have these
makeup influencers, you know, that are obviously getting their shit for free.
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Or if they're not getting their shit for free, they're obviously making money
with the content because they keep pumping it out, right?
Like, of course, they're going
to have every single shade, every single product, every single brand.
But the way they portray that is that you should, too.
You should, too. And you need it. Every single brush, every single pencil,
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every single sharpener. It's like, no, you need your staples.
Like, what foundation is good? What sealer is good? What SPF if I'm going out there?
What eyebrow pencil do I need? what you know
mascara do i need what is my favorite lipstick okay so
you have your foundation of your four favorites you know
like and after that do you need more no no no because after that in my opinion
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do you need a cream brush blush and a powder blush and a bronzer a cream bronze
bronzer and a powder bronzer and then a liquid eyeliner and then a powder eyeliner like sure.
Yeah if you want your makeup to last forever and ever
and ever you should do all these steps but most of
us work a fucking eight hour day and that's
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all you needed to last and most of us don't need to look
like we're on a magazine cover right you know it's like i'm
sorry like i like real looking people and like
not every single woman needs to look
different like so drastically drastically different
and this is a this is like i think the
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bad and we only have a few minutes left this
is like one of the bad things about social media and and
influencing like you are
influencing these people to put
on all of this and this has been for
decades like all this makeup all this
product to be the person that you want to be
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right to the point to where
when that makeup is not on you are not the person and
you look completely different it's almost like being catfished you
know it's like why change yourself here like
i understand wear makeup it makes you it should be an enhancement exactly an
enhancement you don't need makeup to be beautiful use the makeup to use Use
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your beauty that you already have and enhance it to make,
to, to feel better, right?
Like, okay, we're going out for a special dinner.
Feel, I just want a little pop with it, right? We're going out in town,
just a little pop, but you don't.
Not every single person
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every single day seven days a week
365 should have 13
layers of makeup on you know like
that shouldn't be the standard the standard the new
trend right now it's your makeup's not lasting enough you're not.
Using enough yeah and that shouldn't be the standard because.
You know what people like you and i you
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because you wear makeup i do not you don't
have have the luxury of spending an hour and a half in the
bathroom every day to look like this
other person for an hour like for
a meeting or for a night out you know like
an hour a week and why can't we just take this natural
beauty of everyone that wears makeup and
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just enhance that instead of
making this makeup your identity the identity
should be you which is real for me like it's
like so i worked in the beauty industry for
15 years i switched careers and not
wearing makeup is real for me but also
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i'm too fucking tired and wore out to do makeup every day
like i'm in my i'm exhausted and don't care
right now era but it is hard because
i even with makeup i don't look like myself at
this moment in time i don't feel but without
makeup i'm like who the fuck are you like
looking back at me i well and
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to be quite honest you're millennial and millennials are fucking heavy on that
makeup i've cut way back on my makeup no you have but i'm just like you were
kind of you were uh raised with makeup i remember when i was in like early high
school and women men would have or girls at that time would have like fucking.
Layers of makeup different shades and you could see where they did their makeup
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and not did their makeup around their jawline and like it was just layer upon
layer upon layer upon layer.
Maybe that's the feminist to me and just like you don't really need all that
you know like fucking i don't like maybe i'm different like i don't need all
the makeup like honestly like women have,
way better features than men will ever have and
(47:34):
those features are just fine
by themselves you know yeah i know
i feel like mascara goes a long way though a little
bit of eyebrow goes a long way i mean yes but
that's a little bit of mascara a little bit of eyebrow it is
not a two and a half hour let's
get this person like hollywood style
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makeup photo shoot john's on catfish tiktok right now in case you didn't know
no well some of it is catfish like i some of it but i don't know i don't know
i just think that it doesn't need to be as extreme the standard.
And have you seen beauty standards lately i
(48:18):
mean i i follow a lot of tiktok people
or not follow but like they come across their like
my feed and i will say some do or
do not have teeth and like they
just like yes they look really like
they look beautiful with their makeup on well they
(48:38):
also look good without their makeup on but it's like
i don't know it's like i i don't know maybe now
i'm just rambling you got me in a fucking loop it's okay
you got me a loop social media
cancel it yeah because you went
from caring about dogs to caring about these women that don't need to wear all
the makeup they don't they don't oh my god we told somebody at the bar tonight
(49:05):
john was a feminist and the whole entire bar went silent well it wasn't a bar
it was the pub and And then they didn't talk about us,
like talk with us like the rest of the night. Yeah.
Because I was like, oh, he'll take her side no matter what. Well,
the thing is, I was taking her side. Oh, you were? Yeah. And maybe that's why they got into a fight.
What were you taking her side about? What was the drama?
(49:26):
So he's 10 years older than her. Right. And then me, our bartender and her,
we were all born in the same year.
And we were just like talking BS and like calling him an old man.
And she's like, well, that's why I call him daddy. Cause he's so old.
She was like, then you'll be calling him daddy too. I was like,
(49:46):
give it a little bit of time and I'll be calling him daddy. Yeah. You know?
Cause so we ended up basically making fun of this girl's fucking boyfriend,
boyfriend for being old.
And I guess kind of ganged up on him. So that's probably why they were fighting.
Well, I was nice. I told him he didn't look that old.
(50:07):
He also said, it doesn't matter what your girlfriend thinks,
John's going to take her side. Yeah. I did.
Yeah. So, there was that.
Which I did. Well, because I like her.
Like, I don't mind. She's feisty, but she is. And I don't mind her boyfriend
either. They're both nice.
They're nice people. Like, we see them probably once a month at the pub. You know? Yeah.
(50:32):
Maybe if we're not going to the pub that often, in every other
month every other month so yeah like we've
seen them i don't want to say regularly but often
so they are more so their
schedule is later later saturdays
our other friends are earlier saturdays
(50:53):
earlier saturdays and we're like kind of in between
like all these people we're gonna go like all
the people that we kind of hang out with always gets out before rowdy crowd
starts yeah so like that we got some early
earlier friends we got some mid friends and
then we got us that are kind of like the in-between sporadics and
more like well like we'll show up at like 4 30 which
(51:15):
is kind of like when the day drinkers start going home and
then we start like hanging out for a couple drinks and like
an appetizer and then we're gone
at like you know 5 30 or 6 but fun
stuff anyway so that's all we got for the
trippy show thanks for hanging out with us you guys sorry we went on such a
(51:38):
hard tangent yeah you don't need to wear that much makeup i'm gonna i'm about
to pee my pants all right go pee your pants we love you guys we'll talk to you
uh next time we talk to you thanks for hanging out see ya,
Thank you.
(51:58):
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