131: Mindfulness, Hands-On Therapy, and Pain (with Bronnie Lennox Thompson)

In this episode Til Luchau interviews Bronnie Lennox Thompson, a pain management expert from the University of Otago in New Zealand. Bronnie shares insights on supporting people with chronic pain to live well, emphasizing pain’s complexity as a personal, multi-dimensional experience. They discuss the value of hands-on therapy, discussing both physical benefits and its comforting, human connection.

The conversation highlights mindfulness as a tool for managing chronic pain, extending beyond meditation to include simple, everyday practices. Bronnie and Til explain how mindfulness helps people observe pain without reacting, fostering a healthier relationship with their bodies. Bronnie also shares her personal approach to mindfulness through activities like walking and savoring positive moments. This episode offers practical advice for both therapists and anyone seeking a mindful, compassionate approach to managing pain.

Key Topics:

00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview 00:16 Sponsorship and Special Offers 02:04 Guest Introduction: Dr. Bronnie Lennox Thompson 02:15 Exploring Pain and Mindfulness 05:40 Personal Journey with Pain 08:59 The Role of Hands-On Therapy 19:16 Mindfulness in Clinical Practice 25:13 History and Science of Mindfulness 39:17 Responding vs. Reacting: The Power of Mindfulness 40:12 Practical Applications for Manual Therapists 41:08 Guiding Clients Through Sensory Awareness 42:11 Exploring Sensations and Descriptions 43:38 The Role of Curiosity in Therapy 44:40 Hands-On Techniques and Client Interaction 47:17 Movement and Awareness in Therapy 48:52 Changing Pain Perception Through Attention 51:51 The Therapeutic Session: Beyond Touch 01:00:07 Incorporating Mindfulness into Daily Life 01:06:38 Final Thoughts and Resources

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• Til Luchau’s site: Advanced-Trainings.com 

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• University of Otago Postgrad Programmes in Pain
• Bronnie Lennox Thompson: Healthskills blog [e-mail] 

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