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October 4, 2025 24 mins

Now that we're worried about crowds and overtourism, the idea of visiting lesser-known places is a real winner. I've always loved to go to the places that aren't listed frequently on travellers' itineraries and maintain that many of the best experiences happen there - and the stories from the three guests in this episode seem to confirm that.

First up, I chat with Jonny Wright about his love of going to places nobody knows about. He explains an experience in eastern Turkey, and the circuitous route he took to end up on a little-known island off the coast of Hiroshima, Japan.

Pam Petro is obsessed with Wales - itself not an entirely lesser-known place, though how she ended up there is not a usual way - but it led to an especially intriguing trip around the world visiting all the places where Welsh is spoken, including an unsuspecting part of South America.

Finally, Barefoot Backpacker has returned to tell me their tales of visiting Paraguay. I think they are the only person I know to have stories about travelling to Paraguay, and I was thus very intrigued to hear them!

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