December 11, 2023 • 24 mins
Dare we look at our own flaws as we stand as ministers of God? What if the anger you carry is holding you back from truly experiencing God's mercy? We often overlook our own imperfections while expecting God to inflict punishment on others. This episode will challenge you to hold a mirror to your own actions and attitudes. As we discuss the uncomfortable reality of anger in our lives, we'll use the biblical story of Jonah as our guide. We'll consider how our anger manifests itself, both in personal relationships and larger societal issues like strikes and road rage. Most importantly though, I invite you to reflect on how anger might be affecting your ministry and spiritual journey.
By understanding God's extended mercy towards us, despite our faults, we hope to inspire you to extend the same grace to others. Join us, and let's grow together in our spiritual journey.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Tilded Halo.
This is a new podcast and it'sfor anybody who's a woman in
ministry.
You might be a pastor likemyself, a bishop, a priest, a
rabbi, music minister, elderchildren's minister whatever
your title is, you're absolutelyin the right place, especially
if you're someone who loves yourministry and you're doing it
(00:24):
well and you're feeling pressureto sometimes be perfect and
deep down inside, you knowyou're not.
And how in the world to dealwith that?
And, men, you're absolutelywelcome here too, because this
is about ministry and the samething can happen to you.
So you're all in the rightplace.
Let's get started with the show.
(00:47):
Do you get angry?
I do.
I think we all do at times, butwhy?
What are some of the thingsthat you get angry about?
No, this is not really aboutanger, but just for you to think
about a little bit.
What is it that you get angryabout?
(01:08):
It seems to me that there are alot of people these days who are
angry.
There are shouting matches thathappen in all kinds of places,
and there are people who reallywant other people to think and
(01:33):
be and do things like they want,and so they get angry when they
don't.
I mean drive down any highwaythese days and road rage is
getting to be all too common.
I don't even want to saypopular, but it almost seems
like the popular thing to do,and I know I've experienced that
(01:54):
too.
Why does that person have to goso slow?
Why do they cut me off intraffic?
All of those different kinds ofthings, even something as
simple as that, it can begrounds for getting angry, and
sometimes people get reallyangry about what seems to be
(02:15):
kind of little stuff, and therehave been as I'm recording this.
There have been some strikes byunions in the last 12, 24
months or something like that.
It depends upon when you'relistening to this but there have
(02:36):
been some larger unions thathave gone out on strike, and
that didn't happen for quite anumber of years.
And it's not that the people onstrike were being violent or
anything like that, thankfully.
But some of these strikes havegone on a long time because the
people who were on strike weresaying enough the way they've
(03:02):
been treated by the companies orby the job type situations.
Those companies, thosebusinesses, have experienced a
lot of growth and a lot ofincome and they just want to get
a fairer share of that as well,so people have been willing to
go out on strike for things likethat.
(03:23):
Anger happens all over theplace.
It happens what we see on themedia.
It happens close to home aswell, and it just seems to be a
lot of angry people out there.
It doesn't seem to take a wholelot these days to get us angry
(03:49):
and angrier, and maybe that'sbecause there's more stress in
our lives and in our world thanthere used to be.
But whatever the reason, weseem to be angry a lot and in
that sense we're kind of like abiblical person in the Bible, in
(04:14):
a book from the Bible, whatChristians call the Old
Testament, the book of Jonah.
Now, many people are familiarwith the story of Jonah, at
least part of the story.
It's the one about this guygetting swallowed by a whale.
Well, actually there is nowhale.
(04:35):
In the Hebrew text that meansbig fish, but getting swallowed
by a whale or big fish andliving in the stomach of this
fish for three days.
Now, come on now.
How in the world could anybodysurvive in the stomach of a big
fish or a whale?
How would he breathe?
(04:57):
Being down there with all thedigestive juices does not sound
like a very pleasant place to be.
Anyway, it's a story aboutJonah and getting swallowed up
by this whale but big fish.
But the story is a lot morethan that.
You see, god called Jonah to bea prophet and go to the city of
(05:20):
Nineveh and call them to repent.
A couple of things to know.
Number one Nineveh was thecapital of the Assyrian,
assyrian empire way back in the700 BCE, before the Common Era,
and the Assyrians were a groupof people, an area that they
(05:49):
were conquering all kinds ofother territory, and they were
not the nicest people when theytook others captive and
conquered territory.
They were known to be verybrutal to the people they
conquered, those who survivedthe actual war part of it.
(06:11):
Some of them were I mean, it'svery distasteful to even think
about this but some of them wereskinned alive.
Some of them were impaled ongiant steaks.
Some of them had either greatbig hooks put in their mouth or
a great big ring through theirnose not just a tiny little one
(06:32):
like people pierced with today,but a great big thing and then
hauled off to Assyria just likea herd of livestock.
In other words, jonah had a lotof reasons not to want the
people of Nineveh to repent,because if they did not repent,
god was saying that God wasgonna wipe out Nineveh Sounded
(06:57):
like a pretty good idea, youknow, to somebody the Assyrian
Empire conquered the NorthernKingdom of Israel in 722 BCE and
marched against and attackedJerusalem in 701 BCE.
So you know, if God had wipedout Nineveh, that wouldn't have
(07:19):
happened.
This is happening before all ofthat march against the Northern
Kingdom.
Jonah did not want to go toNineveh, he did not want to tell
the people to repent, he didn'twant them to repent at all.
And so Jonah runs away.
(07:43):
Well, thanks, he can run awayfrom God.
He gets on a ship on theMediterranean Sea and goes north
from Israel up to Tarshish,which is in now modern-day
Lemberdan, and but while they'reout at the sea, there's a storm
that comes up and it's indanger of capsizing and swapping
(08:09):
the ship, and so the crew onthe boat starts throwing cargo
overboard.
And then they, for some reason,they think that it's because of
Jonah that the storm is there.
And Jonah says yeah, it's me,I'm running away from my God, so
throw me overboard and you'llbe okay.
(08:30):
So Jonah prefers to die drownrather than go to Nineveh.
But God says, not so fast.
You know, I really want you togo to Nineveh.
So that's where the whale or bigfish comes into the picture,
because swallows of Jonah keepthem from drowning, I guess.
(08:54):
But again, how in the worldwould somebody survive in the
belly of a whale or a big fishfor three days?
Anyway, jonah decides, you know, maybe God saving him like this
was a pretty good deal.
And so, while in the belly ofthis marine preacher, he gives a
(09:19):
prayer to God in thanks for hislife and the story takes on a
bit of an error of like a comedy, because the word Jonah in
Hebrew means either dove orpigeon.
So we have prophet pigeon, whohas been trying to fly away from
(09:42):
God and, you know, has been inthe belly of this big fish.
Well, after three days the fishcan't stomach Jonah any longer,
literally, and spits him out,regurgitates him close enough to
shore so that Jonah can get toshore and he cleans himself off.
(10:06):
And God again says hey, jonah,remember you're going to Nineveh
.
Jonah says OK, or prophetpigeon says OK, I'll go to
Nineveh.
Now the other thing to realizeis Nineveh is not exactly next
door.
If you looked at a map of theMiddle East, these days Lebanon
(10:32):
is north of Israel current dayIsrael and to the east of
Lebanon is Syria.
So to get to Nineveh, jonah hasto go through, probably,
lebanon and Syria, continuing totravel east, and then curves
southeastward into the Assyrianterritory, which would be closer
(10:59):
to modern day Iraq, and Ninevehwould be on the southern end of
that territory, where theTigris and the Euphrates rivers
come together is where thisancient city of Nineveh was
close to modern day Baghdad, Ibelieve, if I've got my
(11:19):
geography correct here.
Anyway.
So this is a couple hundredmiles.
It's going to take Jonah sometime.
There's no airplanes, no trains, no cars.
The fastest mode oftransportation was probably a
camel, okay, and even on camelback on a caravan of traders
(11:42):
traveling the ancient silk routeand through the what was known
as the fertile press.
That would have taken weeks toget there.
But Jonah goes and he stilldoesn't want these people to
repent.
And so Nineveh is described asa big city, takes three days to
(12:02):
walk across it, which could belike, if you think of three
miles an hour pace for walkingthat in a day and a walking for
eight hours continually, youcould get about 24 miles.
So three days to walk acrossthat, you're talking somewhere
(12:26):
between 60 and 75 miles andacross.
So, jonah, he still doesn'twant the people to repent.
So what does he do?
He goes one day's journey intothe city, just one day's journey
.
And then he sets up shop, andone time, and only once, does he
(12:46):
tell the people that God saysthat if they do not repent, the
city is going to be wiped out in40 days.
Well, and then he continues onand leaves the city, but he
doesn't leave the area.
He wants to see what's going tohappen.
Well, what happens, unbeknownstto Jonah, is that that one time
(13:08):
that he shares the message, itspreads.
It spreads not just to thelittle group of people who were
around him and heard him, but itspread all the way to the king.
And the king declared hey, youknow, we got to take this guy
seriously.
So he declared that everybodyhad to put on sackcloth,
including their animals, andfast till the end of the 40 days
(13:33):
as the sign of repentance.
Now, think about that.
When was the last time you sawa herd of cattle or some
chickens in sackcloth?
It's a curious little comicaltype of imagery to think about.
But anyway, they all do this.
The idea is they all repent,and Jonah is sitting outside the
(13:58):
city waiting to see what God'sgoing to do.
And the day comes and you knowwhat happens Now.
Most of us like to talk aboutGod as the same yesterday, today
and tomorrow.
God is steady as a rock.
Well, the text tells us thatGod changed God's mind, for
(14:23):
people repented, so he did notdestroy the city, and Jonah is
furious with God.
He said, god, this is exactlywhy I didn't want to come,
because I knew I knew this iswhat you would do.
You're slow to anger andabounding instead fast love,
(14:44):
which is where this is part of,where we get that phrase from,
and you're not going to do this.
I wanted you to wallop thesepeople real good, they're not
good people.
I wanted you to give it to them, good, and you're not going to
do that.
And so Jonah's angry with Godand Jonah's sitting outside the
(15:08):
city, someplace on a little bitof a hill or something where he
can see what's happening or nothappening, and God causes a
plant, a castor bean plant, togrow up and provide some shade
for Jonah, and Jonah isdelighted to have the shade from
this plant.
(15:28):
That's desert area, and so itcan get pretty darn hot sitting
out in the sun and Jonah's veryhappy about the plant.
But then over the night, god,or the next morning God causes a
worm to come in and destroysthe plant and withers and dies
(15:54):
and Jonah's angry with God forthat.
And God tells Jonah you knowyou're concerned about this
plant.
You didn't have anything to dowith it growing and it's just a
plant.
Why shouldn't I be concernedabout all of the people of
Nineveh?
So pigeon prophet gets told youknow God cares about the people
(16:22):
.
You think about all of thethings that we get angry about.
There's the whole abortionissue.
You know the people who arepro-life get angry with those
who are pro-choice and call them, you know, unconcerned.
(16:43):
You know they call them names.
And the people who arepro-choice get angry at those
who are pro-life.
And you know one group callsthe other one baby killers and
the other, you know, if they'repro-abortion they get called
baby killers.
(17:04):
If they're anti-abortion theyget told that they don't care
about women and about all kindsof other things.
You get people who arethreatening other people and
going around literally executingjust what they call justice
(17:26):
because they don't like the waysome people look or who they are
or what they believe in or howthey behave, and so they open
fire with weapons of war and youget people on the pro-gun or
(17:48):
the whole gun issue, those whowant anybody and everybody to
have access to weapons and thosewho want you know, want to
protect the Second Amendment,and doing that is what they say.
And then those who want someother laws to have, like
(18:09):
universal background checks orsomething like that and the
different sides that people takeon that and how angry people
get with each other on any ofthose issues and a whole bunch
more.
And people sometimes have takenmatters into their own hands to
literally execute what theycall justice.
(18:32):
And these are some of the bigthings that we get angry about
these days.
But there are all kinds oflittle things too.
There's the driver ahead of usor somebody around us, person
who votes differently than we do, who says something that is
(18:55):
different about a candidate whowe support, who says something
critical about them.
You know we get angry about allkinds of things and along comes
God, because we want Godsometimes to settle the score
for us.
You know, get out there, god,do the justice, do it right, and
(19:17):
what does God do?
God doesn't settle the score,at least not the way we want.
But God offers mercy and graceand forgiveness even to those
people whoever we think of asour enemies, who are bad, wrong,
(19:39):
hurtful whatever term we mightuse for them, those people it's
great to be a recipient of God'sgrace and love and forgiveness.
We all like that, we all needthat, including me, and I have
(20:01):
to admit that there are timeswhere there are people who I
don't agree with and who I seeas doing some very hurtful or
bad things and there's plenty ofthat in the world these days
and I don't really want God tobe nice to them.
But I'm like Jonah in thatrespect.
(20:27):
I want God to give it to somepeople real good, and I suspect
you are too.
But if we want a God who's angrylike that and who is so
unbending, unyielding, uncaring,in a sense, about others, it
(20:51):
just realize what kind of Godwe're asking about for ourselves
too.
If we want God to give it tothose people, somebody else
wants God to give it to us.
Yo, how angry do we want God tobe?
Do you want a God who's angry?
(21:12):
Do you want a God who's lovingand forgiving?
Do you want to see God mostlyas executing justice on
everybody who you know, whateveryour criteria are?
Or do you want a God who isopen to you, being the one with
(21:32):
the tilted halo too Not perfect,sometimes one of those people
in the eyes of somebody else?
We're quick to be like Jonah,to be wanting God to execute and
do justice as we understand it.
(21:57):
How quick are we to hear thatGod is the God of grace and
mercy, steadfast love andabounding in mercy for everyone,
including you and me?
So the next time you realizeyour halo is a little tilted,
(22:17):
think about all of the peoplethat you get angry with and how
tilted their halos are too, andremembering that you know yours
and mine and everybody else's.
None of us have one that'sunperfectly straight.
We're not perfect and so if wewant God's love and grace and
(22:40):
mercy, we need to be able toshow it to others too, even to
those people, whoever they are.
For you, be faithful and go, asJonah did, but also be faithful
and know that God is the God ofmercy and abounding and
(23:04):
steadfast love for everyone,including you and me and
everybody else.
This is the Tilted Halo.
Thank you so much for beinghere and for listening.
Give us peace and blessings toeach of you and come back again
next time for another episode.
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(23:27):
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See you on the next episode.
Welcome to the Tilded Halo.
This is a new podcast and it'sfor anybody who's a woman in
ministry.
You might be a pastor likemyself, a bishop, a priest, a
rabbi, music minister, elderchildren's minister whatever
your title is, you're absolutelyin the right place, especially
if you're someone who loves yourministry and you're doing it
(00:24):
well and you're feeling pressureto sometimes be perfect and
deep down inside, you knowyou're not.
And how in the world to dealwith that?
And, men, you're absolutelywelcome here too, because this
is about ministry and the samething can happen to you.
So you're all in the rightplace.
Let's get started with the show.
(00:47):
Do you get angry?
I do.
I think we all do at times, butwhy?
What are some of the thingsthat you get angry about?
No, this is not really aboutanger, but just for you to think
about a little bit.
What is it that you get angryabout?
(01:08):
It seems to me that there are alot of people these days who are
angry.
There are shouting matches thathappen in all kinds of places,
and there are people who reallywant other people to think and
(01:33):
be and do things like they want,and so they get angry when they
don't.
I mean drive down any highwaythese days and road rage is
getting to be all too common.
I don't even want to saypopular, but it almost seems
like the popular thing to do,and I know I've experienced that
(01:54):
too.
Why does that person have to goso slow?
Why do they cut me off intraffic?
All of those different kinds ofthings, even something as
simple as that, it can begrounds for getting angry, and
sometimes people get reallyangry about what seems to be
(02:15):
kind of little stuff, and therehave been as I'm recording this.
There have been some strikes byunions in the last 12, 24
months or something like that.
It depends upon when you'relistening to this but there have
(02:36):
been some larger unions thathave gone out on strike, and
that didn't happen for quite anumber of years.
And it's not that the people onstrike were being violent or
anything like that, thankfully.
But some of these strikes havegone on a long time because the
people who were on strike weresaying enough the way they've
(03:02):
been treated by the companies orby the job type situations.
Those companies, thosebusinesses, have experienced a
lot of growth and a lot ofincome and they just want to get
a fairer share of that as well,so people have been willing to
go out on strike for things likethat.
(03:23):
Anger happens all over theplace.
It happens what we see on themedia.
It happens close to home aswell, and it just seems to be a
lot of angry people out there.
It doesn't seem to take a wholelot these days to get us angry
(03:49):
and angrier, and maybe that'sbecause there's more stress in
our lives and in our world thanthere used to be.
But whatever the reason, weseem to be angry a lot and in
that sense we're kind of like abiblical person in the Bible, in
(04:14):
a book from the Bible, whatChristians call the Old
Testament, the book of Jonah.
Now, many people are familiarwith the story of Jonah, at
least part of the story.
It's the one about this guygetting swallowed by a whale.
Well, actually there is nowhale.
(04:35):
In the Hebrew text that meansbig fish, but getting swallowed
by a whale or big fish andliving in the stomach of this
fish for three days.
Now, come on now.
How in the world could anybodysurvive in the stomach of a big
fish or a whale?
How would he breathe?
(04:57):
Being down there with all thedigestive juices does not sound
like a very pleasant place to be.
Anyway, it's a story aboutJonah and getting swallowed up
by this whale but big fish.
But the story is a lot morethan that.
You see, god called Jonah to bea prophet and go to the city of
(05:20):
Nineveh and call them to repent.
A couple of things to know.
Number one Nineveh was thecapital of the Assyrian,
assyrian empire way back in the700 BCE, before the Common Era,
and the Assyrians were a groupof people, an area that they
(05:49):
were conquering all kinds ofother territory, and they were
not the nicest people when theytook others captive and
conquered territory.
They were known to be verybrutal to the people they
conquered, those who survivedthe actual war part of it.
(06:11):
Some of them were I mean, it'svery distasteful to even think
about this but some of them wereskinned alive.
Some of them were impaled ongiant steaks.
Some of them had either greatbig hooks put in their mouth or
a great big ring through theirnose not just a tiny little one
(06:32):
like people pierced with today,but a great big thing and then
hauled off to Assyria just likea herd of livestock.
In other words, jonah had a lotof reasons not to want the
people of Nineveh to repent,because if they did not repent,
god was saying that God wasgonna wipe out Nineveh Sounded
(06:57):
like a pretty good idea, youknow, to somebody the Assyrian
Empire conquered the NorthernKingdom of Israel in 722 BCE and
marched against and attackedJerusalem in 701 BCE.
So you know, if God had wipedout Nineveh, that wouldn't have
(07:19):
happened.
This is happening before all ofthat march against the Northern
Kingdom.
Jonah did not want to go toNineveh, he did not want to tell
the people to repent, he didn'twant them to repent at all.
And so Jonah runs away.
(07:43):
Well, thanks, he can run awayfrom God.
He gets on a ship on theMediterranean Sea and goes north
from Israel up to Tarshish,which is in now modern-day
Lemberdan, and but while they'reout at the sea, there's a storm
that comes up and it's indanger of capsizing and swapping
(08:09):
the ship, and so the crew onthe boat starts throwing cargo
overboard.
And then they, for some reason,they think that it's because of
Jonah that the storm is there.
And Jonah says yeah, it's me,I'm running away from my God, so
throw me overboard and you'llbe okay.
(08:30):
So Jonah prefers to die drownrather than go to Nineveh.
But God says, not so fast.
You know, I really want you togo to Nineveh.
So that's where the whale or bigfish comes into the picture,
because swallows of Jonah keepthem from drowning, I guess.
(08:54):
But again, how in the worldwould somebody survive in the
belly of a whale or a big fishfor three days?
Anyway, jonah decides, you know, maybe God saving him like this
was a pretty good deal.
And so, while in the belly ofthis marine preacher, he gives a
(09:19):
prayer to God in thanks for hislife and the story takes on a
bit of an error of like a comedy, because the word Jonah in
Hebrew means either dove orpigeon.
So we have prophet pigeon, whohas been trying to fly away from
(09:42):
God and, you know, has been inthe belly of this big fish.
Well, after three days the fishcan't stomach Jonah any longer,
literally, and spits him out,regurgitates him close enough to
shore so that Jonah can get toshore and he cleans himself off.
(10:06):
And God again says hey, jonah,remember you're going to Nineveh
.
Jonah says OK, or prophetpigeon says OK, I'll go to
Nineveh.
Now the other thing to realizeis Nineveh is not exactly next
door.
If you looked at a map of theMiddle East, these days Lebanon
(10:32):
is north of Israel current dayIsrael and to the east of
Lebanon is Syria.
So to get to Nineveh, jonah hasto go through, probably,
lebanon and Syria, continuing totravel east, and then curves
southeastward into the Assyrianterritory, which would be closer
(10:59):
to modern day Iraq, and Ninevehwould be on the southern end of
that territory, where theTigris and the Euphrates rivers
come together is where thisancient city of Nineveh was
close to modern day Baghdad, Ibelieve, if I've got my
(11:19):
geography correct here.
Anyway.
So this is a couple hundredmiles.
It's going to take Jonah sometime.
There's no airplanes, no trains, no cars.
The fastest mode oftransportation was probably a
camel, okay, and even on camelback on a caravan of traders
(11:42):
traveling the ancient silk routeand through the what was known
as the fertile press.
That would have taken weeks toget there.
But Jonah goes and he stilldoesn't want these people to
repent.
And so Nineveh is described asa big city, takes three days to
(12:02):
walk across it, which could belike, if you think of three
miles an hour pace for walkingthat in a day and a walking for
eight hours continually, youcould get about 24 miles.
So three days to walk acrossthat, you're talking somewhere
(12:26):
between 60 and 75 miles andacross.
So, jonah, he still doesn'twant the people to repent.
So what does he do?
He goes one day's journey intothe city, just one day's journey
.
And then he sets up shop, andone time, and only once, does he
(12:46):
tell the people that God saysthat if they do not repent, the
city is going to be wiped out in40 days.
Well, and then he continues onand leaves the city, but he
doesn't leave the area.
He wants to see what's going tohappen.
Well, what happens, unbeknownstto Jonah, is that that one time
(13:08):
that he shares the message, itspreads.
It spreads not just to thelittle group of people who were
around him and heard him, but itspread all the way to the king.
And the king declared hey, youknow, we got to take this guy
seriously.
So he declared that everybodyhad to put on sackcloth,
including their animals, andfast till the end of the 40 days
(13:33):
as the sign of repentance.
Now, think about that.
When was the last time you sawa herd of cattle or some
chickens in sackcloth?
It's a curious little comicaltype of imagery to think about.
But anyway, they all do this.
The idea is they all repent,and Jonah is sitting outside the
(13:58):
city waiting to see what God'sgoing to do.
And the day comes and you knowwhat happens Now.
Most of us like to talk aboutGod as the same yesterday, today
and tomorrow.
God is steady as a rock.
Well, the text tells us thatGod changed God's mind, for
(14:23):
people repented, so he did notdestroy the city, and Jonah is
furious with God.
He said, god, this is exactlywhy I didn't want to come,
because I knew I knew this iswhat you would do.
You're slow to anger andabounding instead fast love,
(14:44):
which is where this is part of,where we get that phrase from,
and you're not going to do this.
I wanted you to wallop thesepeople real good, they're not
good people.
I wanted you to give it to them, good, and you're not going to
do that.
And so Jonah's angry with Godand Jonah's sitting outside the
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city, someplace on a little bitof a hill or something where he
can see what's happening or nothappening, and God causes a
plant, a castor bean plant, togrow up and provide some shade
for Jonah, and Jonah isdelighted to have the shade from
this plant.
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That's desert area, and so itcan get pretty darn hot sitting
out in the sun and Jonah's veryhappy about the plant.
But then over the night, god,or the next morning God causes a
worm to come in and destroysthe plant and withers and dies
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and Jonah's angry with God forthat.
And God tells Jonah you knowyou're concerned about this
plant.
You didn't have anything to dowith it growing and it's just a
plant.
Why shouldn't I be concernedabout all of the people of
Nineveh?
So pigeon prophet gets told youknow God cares about the people
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.
You think about all of thethings that we get angry about.
There's the whole abortionissue.
You know the people who arepro-life get angry with those
who are pro-choice and call them, you know, unconcerned.
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You know they call them names.
And the people who arepro-choice get angry at those
who are pro-life.
And you know one group callsthe other one baby killers and
the other, you know, if they'repro-abortion they get called
baby killers.
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If they're anti-abortion theyget told that they don't care
about women and about all kindsof other things.
You get people who arethreatening other people and
going around literally executingjust what they call justice
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because they don't like the waysome people look or who they are
or what they believe in or howthey behave, and so they open
fire with weapons of war and youget people on the pro-gun or
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the whole gun issue, those whowant anybody and everybody to
have access to weapons and thosewho want you know, want to
protect the Second Amendment,and doing that is what they say.
And then those who want someother laws to have, like
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universal background checks orsomething like that and the
different sides that people takeon that and how angry people
get with each other on any ofthose issues and a whole bunch
more.
And people sometimes have takenmatters into their own hands to
literally execute what theycall justice.
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And these are some of the bigthings that we get angry about
these days.
But there are all kinds oflittle things too.
There's the driver ahead of usor somebody around us, person
who votes differently than we do, who says something that is
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different about a candidate whowe support, who says something
critical about them.
You know we get angry about allkinds of things and along comes
God, because we want Godsometimes to settle the score
for us.
You know, get out there, god,do the justice, do it right, and
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what does God do?
God doesn't settle the score,at least not the way we want.
But God offers mercy and graceand forgiveness even to those
people whoever we think of asour enemies, who are bad, wrong,
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hurtful whatever term we mightuse for them, those people it's
great to be a recipient of God'sgrace and love and forgiveness.
We all like that, we all needthat, including me, and I have
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to admit that there are timeswhere there are people who I
don't agree with and who I seeas doing some very hurtful or
bad things and there's plenty ofthat in the world these days
and I don't really want God tobe nice to them.
But I'm like Jonah in thatrespect.
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I want God to give it to somepeople real good, and I suspect
you are too.
But if we want a God who's angrylike that and who is so
unbending, unyielding, uncaring,in a sense, about others, it
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just realize what kind of Godwe're asking about for ourselves
too.
If we want God to give it tothose people, somebody else
wants God to give it to us.
Yo, how angry do we want God tobe?
Do you want a God who's angry?
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Do you want a God who's lovingand forgiving?
Do you want to see God mostlyas executing justice on
everybody who you know, whateveryour criteria are?
Or do you want a God who isopen to you, being the one with
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the tilted halo too Not perfect,sometimes one of those people
in the eyes of somebody else?
We're quick to be like Jonah,to be wanting God to execute and
do justice as we understand it.
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How quick are we to hear thatGod is the God of grace and
mercy, steadfast love andabounding in mercy for everyone,
including you and me?
So the next time you realizeyour halo is a little tilted,
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think about all of the peoplethat you get angry with and how
tilted their halos are too, andremembering that you know yours
and mine and everybody else's.
None of us have one that'sunperfectly straight.
We're not perfect and so if wewant God's love and grace and
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mercy, we need to be able toshow it to others too, even to
those people, whoever they are.
For you, be faithful and go, asJonah did, but also be faithful
and know that God is the God ofmercy and abounding and
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steadfast love for everyone,including you and me and
everybody else.
This is the Tilted Halo.
Thank you so much for beinghere and for listening.
Give us peace and blessings toeach of you and come back again
next time for another episode.
You have been listening toTilted Halo with me, kathleen
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Panning.
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