Halftime Memories and Mischief

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Speaker 1 (00:46):
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the TNT Podcast.
We are back.
Dj Turnup, dj Tanaka.
We got a special guest back inthe building DJ 20.
It was actually funny, I think,tanaka.
I think this is the first timeyou and 20 have been on the show
together.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, that'd be correct.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
This is the third time that 20's been on this show
and you were either.
No, I think both times he wassick.
Yeah, it's four.
No, it's not four.
What was the four?
Well, you could talk you couldtalk now.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, so there was, there was twice where he was
sick, and then there was oncewhere it was me and ac.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
No, that's what I'm saying so what was the other
time that you were sick?
Because the first, the one timeI remember was when you were
here.
We were here, we did it, andthen the other time was when we
was in my parents basement withalvin.
That's the only time I remember.
I don't remember.
I think there was one othertime.
I swear I thought it feels likethere's only three because, I
just remember.
It's just distinct moments forall three is that the, the the

(01:46):
first time was with alvin andthat's when we did the certified
lover boy and all that.
Yeah, I remember the secondtime we were here and I remember
you had, you had tiny for thehall of there you go okay, well,
maybe you could rememberanything distinct about the
other one.
That'd be great, and I'd belike oh yeah, I remember that,
but I don't remember.
I only remember you being onthere.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
No, maybe, maybe maybe this is the third time, I
don't know maybe I can't count Idon't know anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Dj 20 how are you sir ?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I'm good, I'm good how you guys doing um, I'm here,
uh and uh, as this podcast isrecording, I haven't moved, so
I'm still in the middle of that.
I'll be excited.
I'm actually going to be onthis.
Be in DJ 20's neck of the woodsmoving to G-Co.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
G-Co, gotta love it man.
Gotta love it, gotta love itman Going to G-Co man.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
G-Co.
It's cool.
It's growing.
From when I last remember itwasn't, there wasn't this much
traffic.
Man you going, I'm trying toleave.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, I just like being out the way.
I don't like I would never in amillion years they couldn't pay
me to live in the city, likethat shit.
It's just too much going on.
You know what I mean.
Like I could live in the city.
Hey, bro, you like a wholebunch of shit going on.
Hey, more power to you, man.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
There's a lot going on.
I like the.
No, I just really like themobility of the city, you know,
being able to go from point A topoint B without having to.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
I said that emotionally.
Yeah, Relax bro.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
It's just like you know what I mean.
I don't need a car.
I could, you know, hit theMARTA.
Yeah, right Things are a littlebit too far.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah right, 20 hitting the MARTA.
How late you be out here, man.
Oh my God.
And you can take the MARTA.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
The MARTA is like it's not 24-7.
Well, it is 24-7.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Bro, that joint do not.
That don't be on time and youalready be late, so what type of
combination?
Is that man?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I think that's what he meant Not up late, but you be
tardy to the party, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
We're working on that , are we?

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, we, yeah, we're working on that, are we?
Yeah, we're working on that.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I can't tell we're working on that.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
What time was his arrival?
Supposed to?
Nah, alright, but you know whatI'm saying?
We're not even gonna get intothat.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
He had work, so we're not gonna get into that.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Don't let him live.
You know what I'm saying youdon't let him live.
I had work.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
That's what that's what helped me out.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Man Tanaka, how you doing, you know what I mean.
This is the first time I seeyou on your own show Right, call
it the TTN20 podcast, or it'lljust be TNTNT.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, that's what the triple T.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Who said that?
I think Tonic.
Somebody said that.
I think Tonic said that.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I feel like Tony said it.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Nah, I'm talking about the conversation Last
night.
But yeah, man, how am I doing?
I'm tired, but it's all good,I'm happy to be here.
You know what I'm saying.
Fellow, fellow delinquent.
You know Our fellow delinquentIn the building, man Big

(05:06):
T-Wolves, the one that's.
Yeah, man, he be the heart ofthe glide out here.
The heart of the glide.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
I can't tell you the last time I went to go to glide.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, you know it's a .
You know it's doing its thing.
You know it's the last family.
You know it's doing its thing.
You know it's the last, it'sthe last family.
Well, I think I was talking toVaughn about it.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
He says shout out to Vaughn.
Shout out to Vaughn.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
He's going to be back soon.
Went over to Arizona and go toschool to be a pilot.
Oh, wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, he'sdoing this thing out there.
Ooh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he'sdoing this thing out there.
Oh, yeah, taking flight man.
Yeah, shout out to vaughn, he'sgonna be making good money.
he could retire like within 10years, and that's how much money
he's gonna be making yeah,that's, yeah, that's gonna be

(05:55):
dope definitely but, um, he wassaying that, um, when it comes
to at least the east side,golden glide is the last like
family oriented establishment onthe east side, I mean, and
they've gotten rid of, like, thearcade thing at stonecrest, um,
and there's nothing else aroundone, they got rid of wait.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
They got art, they got the arcade joint at, uh,
golden glide.
I feel like every time I gothere that joint is like always
like shut down.
Yeah they got it in the cornerI feel like every time I come
there, that joint joint isalways shut down.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, they got it in the corner, I feel like every
time I come there, that joint islike none of the games are on.
Yeah, no, I think they startedturning it on now, more recently
, but yeah, it's in the corner.
That's the last family-orientedestablishment.
Everything else is, you know,cleaning up.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Yeah, that must be why the folks got mad at me when
I was playing all that hawaiianstuff, not a ratchet stuff, but
it's like it's a team session,but they got all these little
children out there, but I don'tknow oh, they got mad at you for
that yeah, I said, bro, it'sthe team.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
But didn't that happen to you?
I feel like that happened toyou too.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
No, they got mad at me, for it wasn't the teen
session, mine wasn't the teensession, mine was the family
session.
But the thing is, the music Iwas playing was TikTok music.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
And you know some of that TikTok music can music.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
So they got mad about that andthey complained and I was just
like, okay, this is what yourkids are listening to, whether
you like it or not yeah and andwhat with, with all that you got
, you got to kind of I don'tknow.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Those are battles you got to kind of pick and I'm not
going to lie For me.
I feel like if it's not goingto get a big reaction out of the
kids, I try to stray away fromit.
The most raunchiest stuff thatI play that would get a reaction
from the kids is that trip outstuff.
That joint is hella raunchy.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
She was complaining about Crank that by Soulja Boy.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
No, that's deep, that's deep she was.
No, she was black.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
She must not like Muslim or something.
She was Muslim.
She must not know I do dance.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
It was songs like that she was complaining about,
or Forgot it was, or maybe sheknows like what maybe she knows
what crank that soldier boymeans.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Remember they didn't.
They say it had something to dowith sex or something yes, no,
bro, that isn't bro.
No, look it up they said it'slike the crank the soldier boy
is like something like sexual orsomething.
Yeah, that's, that's a realthing.
I ain't gonna lie, I ain'tgonna lie 20 and I don't know if
you know this or not, but likethat's not even the real version
of Crank that Soldier Boy.
Have you ever heard the likethe real version of Crank that

(08:47):
Soldier Boy?

Speaker 2 (08:48):
No, like he's really.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Soldier Boy up in the ho.
Want me cranking, want me, bro.
Like that joint is like hellaexplicit.
Superman, that ho Watch me, youLike that shit?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
like a totally different it's like a totally
different, but that makes sense,though.
Like it's supposed.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
that sounds like it's supposed to oh, no, no, yeah,
no, no, no, definitely.
But I just went off on atangent, but yeah, nah.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Nah, I'm not feeling it, yeah, yeah, I'm not feeling
it jack, yeah.
So, uh, what's been new withyou, dj 20?
So, uh, I've gotten intophotography.
Uh, as of late, you know, Imean apparently.
Well, it's not.
Apparently.
I've been in it since last year.

(09:37):
Um, this, this year, I'mdeciding to take it a little bit
more serious.
I got goals for it, so we'repushing that.
So, definitely, you know, tapin if you need your photos taken
.
That's what I'm doing.
Everything that you need,products, food I guess food is a

(09:58):
product.
You know, head shots for myprofessionals.
You know what I mean, justlifestyle.
So I just posted somethingtoday with Drew and a Tesla.
You know what I mean Shout outto Drew.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
How's he?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
doing.
He's doing good.
He's doing good.
He's grinding.
He's doing roadside with hisfriend.
They're building that business.
They're trying to take overAtlanta when it comes to the
roadside business, so that'sreally good.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
So what does that include?
Like when they see somebody onthe side of the road, they just
help them out.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
No, they're actually working with a company and the
company sends them calls of,like you know, assistance that
people need.
So tire services, um jumpstarts, um lockouts, you know
everything.
You need fuel service if youneed fuel, so you know any of

(10:57):
the.
If you're ever breaking down onthe road, you know, you know
holler at them and they'll getyou rolling.
And then if you need somepictures afterwards, you know I
got you there you go so we'll do.
We'll do.
That's what's going on.
That's the new stuff.
Also, if you need to rent a car, let me know yeah, shout out to
20 if y'all wanna know.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
You know where the banner pictures from Nice and
Slow came from you mean from?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Nice and Slow came from you mean.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
AC.
We can thank Big 2 O man.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Well, I like how you wrapped that up, so let's talk
about it.
I like that you brought that up, though.
So DJ 20, I mean, you haven'tbeen on the show since 2023.
But I mean, you know, nice andSlow happened at the time of
recording.
It has been two months, and Iguess we didn't get your
feedback on the podcast becauseyou weren't on the podcast.
So your thoughts on Nice andSlow?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I definitely like how it's growing.
It's definitely become amovement.
You know there's a lot ofpeople that don't come to like
bailout Monday, which is like abig thing, but we'll come to
that.
So I definitely like themovement but will come to that.
So I definitely like themovement.
I definitely loved howeverybody you know dressed up
came, showed out.

(12:11):
Everybody was happy.
You know, everybody came inthere, you know, I wouldn't even
know how to describe it theirlittle, their outfits.
Yeah, I like the movement, youknow, and it's gonna grow more
and more and that's all youcould ask for.
And you know, eventually, umyou, you'll be surprised who

(12:36):
will actually pop up.
You know, right now it'sprobably like you know your
everyday average skater orcelebrity skater, like your t
smooth or something like that.
But you don't know, like youknow what I mean, one of these
days you could get like a summerwalker that may roll through
there, or like a right you knowwhat I mean.

(12:56):
Some a famous r&b artist mightcome through you know, you never
know so and imagine what thatwould do to Nice and Slow.
It is what it is now.
Imagine how it would explodeonce a hero, a celebrity, comes
through.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Look, man, I appreciate you speaking that
into existence first of all.
But yeah, me and Turner, we oweyou a big thank you.
You did because you know we hadan individual that was
originally scheduled, you know,to hold it down and you ended up
being the savior you did.

(13:33):
So we just want to thank you,man.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Right, you could have been anywhere else in the world
you know, and yeah, anddelinquents in distress.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
You dig and you popped up.
You popped up to save the day.
So we appreciate you, sir.
Myself and Turner, we had agame plan with the banner.
We did not want it to fail thistime around, so we wanted to
make sure that we had aphotographer there.
And you answered the call, man.
So thank you for that, bro.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
No, no, no doubt you know what I mean.
I still feel I was actuallytalking to Tanaka about this.
Me personally, I did not likethe pictures.
Me personally, and nothingwrong with anybody who took the
pictures, Nothing wrong with thepictures themselves, you know.

(14:28):
I just feel like me personally.
My artistic side wasn't able tocome out because it wasn't my
equipment.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
I felt like, yeah, I felt like you.
We talked about this too.
I feel like you said, you feltlike you were like kind of
underprepared for the situation.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah, no, I was definitely underprepared, but
like it was one underprepared,but like it was one of those
where, like I didn't have mycamera and then I didn't have it
for a while because I let drewborrow it because he, he had a
photo shoot.
And when, you know, I finallygot it back, which was was that

(15:03):
day Um, cause, funny enough, wewere doing roadside together at
that.
Um, that day, when you calledme and I was just like, oh, okay
, when I got it, took the SDcard out, that's when I
remembered, oh snap, I need anSD card and it was.
I got to Walmart late but youended up having a camera and I
was just like, man, you might aswell just give me an iPhonehone

(15:26):
, and you know, I'll takepictures like that.
But you know, when I have mycamera and I have an sd card
with space, like you know, I'mmore so turned into an artist.
It's like a dj, right, like youcould, you know, make songs
together on the computer.
But when you have theturntables or or somebody else's
equipment you know what I mean.
No, I mean still with somebodyelse's equipment.

(15:48):
You can still, you know, stillbe an artist.
But you know, like I said, whenyou have a computer you could
just press play to the next song, but you, know, yeah, but
that's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
I feel like it's more equivalent because it's like,
um, what was I thinking?
Oh, I mean the.
The person that has saidequipment may not be at the same
level as your equipment.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Definitely, but nonetheless they can try to, you
know.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
I mean at the end of day 20,.
Bro, the picture got taken,Right you?

Speaker 2 (16:20):
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
So a picture is better than no picture.
You got taken right, you knowI'm saying.
So a picture is better than nopicture.
You dig and that's what we wasabout to have if you hadn't.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
You know, I'm saying have it down, so you know, nah
now.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Now here's my only gripe and so why?

Speaker 2 (16:38):
and you know, you know what I'm referencing- why,
uh-oh, why, 20 man, you weredelinquent.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
We had to have you you know what I'm saying pop up
and say today, man, you know, wehad to acknowledge our fellow
delinquent man.
Dude, that picture lookedhorrible.
Oh, the picture.
Yeah, he's talking about thepicture, the picture that got
posted on the 20 man, you gottaunderstand.
I said this to you many timesbefore.
We needed to show variety.

(17:05):
It wasn't so much about howgood the picture looked, it was
more so like oh, all these folkswas there, I'm not going to lie
, tony.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
There were a lot of people that were very
disappointed about their picturegetting made on the, what you
call it.
Was it Mari that contacted you?
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it was contacting him.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, that was like why did y'all post this picture?

Speaker 3 (17:30):
He told me this was a you know got to show the gang
signs out man.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Oh wait, you talking about Ty, right, I'm talking
about Mari.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
No, she was on some gang.
Shit too, she was.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Oh, she just what was that?

Speaker 3 (17:46):
those like guns to the head, wasn't?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
it?
Oh did she?
No, I don't know, she justlooked high oh, I don't know she
was like nah, cause it wasn'tlike on the, like gang shit.
She was like I think she hadhit up and was like yo.
I thought he said he was yeah,that's what.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
That's what alvin told me, yeah that's.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
How am I supposed to know that, right?
Yeah, I feel like perfectly,you know what I'm saying
perfectly, perfect.
Yeah, yeah, no sir yeah, youknow you'll be all right.
20 you do.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, man yeah me out here looking bad like I was in
my whole enterprise, like he,represents your company with
pride man you know I was lookingterrible proud employee out
here you do yeah the man saidI'm just here so I don't get
fired all right.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
So um, I'm saying it makes sense.
You know how you spell your djname 20e uh-E 20 Enterprise.
I see, I see there, it is there.
It is right there.
Whatever, bro, go ahead,represent your company with
pride, man.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
No, dude, that's not what was supposed to happen.
Look Long as everybody.
It was, oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Look if it makes you feel any better.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
there was a lot of.
They were looking rough Like itwas.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Look if it makes you feel any better.
There was a lot of people outthere looking rough, so no they
came.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
No, everybody that came did not come, looking rough
.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Not everybody, there were a couple people that was
like.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Nah, if they looked rough, they were intending to
look rough, yeah no, but that'swhat I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
That's the difference .
Yeah, some folks came in thereand had a chance to change
clothes and all that and stillcame rough.
You came not prepared.
This is a last minute job andyou made it happen and you look
rough.
There's a backstory behind that?

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, I was behind the scenes.
I was supposed to be behind thescenes.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
And you brought me to the forefront.
You had a jacket.
I didn't bring you to anything.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
You didn't have to take the picture.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Okay, I didn't take the picture, ac took the picture
.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Okay, you didn't have to post the picture I just.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
I just posted what I received.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
I'm saying you didn't have to and so nothing.
You like an NPC?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah, like what was said, Just testing to see if
Whatchamacallit, if the cameraworks.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Chill out the NPC.
Shit is hilarious bro, but yeah20 is straight bro.
I promise it doesn't look thatbad.
I promise it's pretty bad bro.
Pretty bad is pretty damn bad20,.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
It doesn't look that bad, I promise it's pretty bad,
bro, pretty bad is pretty deep20,.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
You're going to be fine out here.
You're acting like you justwent viral and it's like oh bro.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Now, if that shit went viral I would apologize.
I would be like damn 20.
I didn't want to make you feellike an asshole.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
You wasn't even tagged.
Damn like an asshole.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
You wasn't even tagged.
Damn, you didn't tag him.
Or did you not tag him for thatreason?

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, man.
He knew it was bad.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Oh he knew it was bad .
That's why he didn't tag me.
Oh, that's fucked up.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
That's kind of crazy.
I ran out of tags.
I ran out of tags.
I ran out of tags.
Only 20 tags.
A post man.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
You know what I'm saying?
How ironic.
No pun intended, yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's Chris, and what number pick were you?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
I don't remember it was the last one.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, you were number 20.
Number 20.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, so that means they would have to go all the
way through the joint to see you, and you know folks ADD on
social media yeah, when they'relooking for their picture.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, looking for their picture Unless they're
looking for their picture.
They're going to scroll throughall of them to see if they made
it.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Nobody in the comments said anything about you
, right?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Minority percentage.
Sir, Alright, man Like.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
I said you just didn't have to.
You know I wasn't intending tolook bad 20,.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
I think you're overthinking the situation.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
I guess I think you're overthinking the
situation.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
I guess, if you say so, I think you're overthinking
the situation.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Anywho, yeah, anywho.
Well, I guess we'll move on nowto the question of the day.
The question of the day mightbe brief, but I just I just

(22:14):
thought I'd bring this uh pointup.
Um, this is something I've beenthinking about for years and
always wanted an answer.
You may, y'all may, not havethe answer, but it's fuck.
I just thought I'd bring up theconversation.
Why doesn't Fox get his rosesfor Wipe Me Down?
Did Boosie write that song like?
Is there any back story to WipeMe Down?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
cause I haven't looked into it.
But no, I think that is Fox'ssong, cause he had the album
there's literally a versionwithout anybody else on it.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
yeah, and Because he had an album.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
There's literally a version without anybody else on
it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember hehad an album too that he had
released.
Fox did have an album.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
And so they just Does Boosie ever talk about it?
Because that's like one ofBoosie's biggest songs is Wipe
Me Down.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Or biggest feature.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, I ain't gonna gonna lie, I haven't done
research on fox like that you'rea true, really true.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Family as a whole that needs to be your next
project you need to do some.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
I do need to do some research.
Um, I just know that fox.
I think he had another record,but I think it was.
Uh, it was a jigging song.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Oh, so that's like some street classic Louisiana
type shit.
Yeah, I don't know about thejigging.
Yeah, I feel like one time Iactually looked up Fox and I
just wanted to.
Yeah, I think he's back to aregular person.
He's just a regular person now.
I don't think he raps anymore.

(23:44):
I don't think he does, but Ifeel like I was a while back
when I uh I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
I feel like everything kind of fell apart
with true family after um pimpshe died.
No, what's the name?
Mouse, little fat mouse oh,that wasn't mouse no, no mouse
is the producer man.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Oh, oh, a little fact that's on 3D.
Right, he's on 3D.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
I think so yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Damn Wait.
Why did everything fall apartwhen he died?
Was he like a big part, likebehind the scenes, or something?

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know Just thatdeath.
I don't know just that death, Idon't know.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
I feel like she kind of tore everybody apart.
Well, you know it wasn't astight-knit.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
I feel like after that.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
But you know, there's always that one person that
brings everybody together, andthen there's also, like you know
, sometimes death.
You know it changes people.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
So I mean, yeah, you're not wrong about that, but
I don't know.
I hate how this is going tocome off, but I don't know.
I feel like Lil Phelps was kindof minuscule when it came to
everybody that was in Troll Fam.
I feel like Boosie WebbyHonestly, those are the only two
people I can really think ofBoosie Webby and I guess anybody
else that was in 3D and I guessFox at the time.

(24:58):
I don't know.
Do you know anybody else that'sin Troll Fam?
Tanaka, well, at the I don'tknow Do you know anybody?
else that's a true fan of.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Tanaka.
What time, I guess.
What's the name?
Who'd you say in my bed?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
I guess 3D.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I don't even know.
All I know, is Phat Lil.
Phat Lil Chul.
I forgot a girl's name, didn'teven know there was a girl Like
Kim McCoy, I think that was hername.
Is she a rapper Singer?
Oh, she's a singer.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Singer on Trill Fam is crazy, tough, very
interesting.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Very interesting.
Very interesting I might haveto look that up.
Yeah, I'm just.
I'm trying to think back tothat True Family compilation
album.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
That was 07, wasn't it, or 06?

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well, they had two of them.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
They had two.
Yeah, oh, I only knew about thefirst one.
I think Wipe Me Down was thefirst one, right?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
They had Survival of the Fittest One that had Wiping
Down, and then they had All orNothing I think I think it was
the name of that.
But, yeah, I F'd that joint.
Yeah, because it got a song onthere that I really rock with

(26:21):
called when Would I Be, andthat's probably one of my
favorite verses that Boosie'sever spit is on that song
Because he's basically speakingabout.
That was the time when he wasfacing the death penalty, yeah,
and he was just speaking abouthis experience and just what he
was thinking at that time.

(26:42):
Right, Okay.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
And I'm not going to say that Boosie comes off as
vulture-like.
So I don't know For everybodyto give the roses to Boosie even
as little as Glorilla samplingthe song and Fox not being
anywhere on the video.
I don't know.
Fox and Boosie fall out.
Were they not cool at first?
They were is kind of.
I don't know.
Fox and Boosie fall out.
Were they not cool at first?

(27:08):
They were just kind of businesspartners.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Maybe he's not into the music scene as much as he
used to be.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
And that's what I'm thinking, because I feel like I
looked it up and he was justkind of, just like I said, a
normal person on Instagram.
I feel like I found him onInstagram and it was just he was
just.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
You know, that's what you know.
People are at peace.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
He probably got a taste of what that life is like
didn't like it he didn't like itat all and he was just like
it's okay, I'm alright rightprobably, and if that's the case
, if that's the case, fox,wherever you are, sir, and and
if that's the case, if that'sthe case, fox, wherever you are,
sir, I just appreciate you forcoming out with wipe me down

(27:47):
because, truthfully, that, yeah,very much so, and, honestly,
not saying that I could havedone without the busi and webby
part, because webby is myfavorite part unpopular opinion,
but um, yeah, I feel like Ifeel like if I would have heard
the regular wipe me down beforeI heard the remix, I would have
been like, okay, and honestlyand truthfully, I don't even.
I actually like the UGK versionbetter.

(28:09):
So that's, that's a wholenother, that's a whole nother
monster.
But um, yeah, so I guess this,this question of the day, will
be turning me, turning it intome giving my roses to Fox.
Appreciate you for giving uswipe me down.
I fucking love that song.
That's like one of my.
I feel like that was like oneof my first favorite ratchet
songs, like that, like one ofthe hood southern songs.

(28:30):
I was like you know what thissong is, very ignorant, but I, I
fuck with this song, and it waswhen it first came out.
I was because at first I waslike the fuck is this?
And then I listened to it.
I'm like damn, this shit islow-key, like ignorant as hell
and I fuck with it.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Like this shit is hard but and then it turned into
every like you can't, you can't.
You have to hear that song ifyou're at some type of function.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Function yeah, function college cookout hell
even cookout like it's, likeit's turning into like low-key,
like a black family reunion,like you will hear that song
when, when it's time to turn upat the family reunion.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
It's one of those songs that probably is turning
to, a song that will probablynever die.
It's because it's somethingthat that's one of those songs
amongst black people I want tosay it's up there with, before I
let go, something that'll belike tradition you pass down

(29:27):
from generation to generationright it makes it to those?
Um, I mean, before I let go youknow frankie mev, uh, frankie
beverly and maze.
Um, you know that song, thatthat goes without.
You know any of the, thestrolls, any of the that was
before they tried to electricslide with it, like that song

(29:51):
okay, I don't want to go off ona tangent.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I'm sorry and I don't mean to cut you off when, when
was that a thing I'm not gonna?
lie I've heard, I've heardbefore I let go, like for a very
long time, like I said, mygrandparent, my grandfather.
I will never forget this.
I will always, always have thisin the back of my head anytime
I heard frankie beverly andmaize, it would be in my
grandfather's o2 jaguar, um, andhe'd be playing the whole album

(30:14):
.
I don't know what album it was,but I know I would always hear
before I let go golden time ofday, southern girl, happy
feelings, like all that shit.
I never remember it being anelectric slide with before I let
go it never was.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
I mean the when it started, when that started when
beyonce released her version ofthe song.
No, I was before that no, Idon't remember.
Well, okay, it was what Iremember yeah, like I didn't
remember seeing people do ituntil like beyonce came out bro,
I will never forget the firsttime I heard that shit in the
club.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
That shit blew my mind.
I was like, like we're in likea real deal club, like domain,
like it's like one of those bigass clubs.
It was club opera.
I don't know if club opera isstill a thing, but the dj played
it and I immediately justthought of my.
I'm like, bro, why am Ithinking of my grandfather in a
fucking club like?
That's what that's what thosesongs do.

(31:08):
Oh no, that's what the songs do.
But I'm like, why is this songgetting played right?
now like this is literally inthe middle of.
Okay, let me think of the timeframe.
This is probably like.
So this is like probably like.
This is when shit and ain'tabout the money and like I don't
know bands will make her dancepop.
That like that's when thosesongs were hot, like really oh,
let's do it like that type ofstuff.

(31:30):
So to hear before I let go waslike, like what the fuck am I
listening to right now, like,but the club went crazy?
I no, no, I'm not gonna.
I don't remember if the clubwent crazy.
I was just so mind blown thatbefore I let go was being played
.
But I don't know, teach his own, I guess.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Um, you know what you know now, I mean, you'll find a
way to put it in.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Oh yeah, no, definitely like it's like in any
old school set you do at theclub before I let go is more
than likely getting played yeah,you're gonna find your way to
put it in there yeah you'regonna it's somewhere yeah,
you're that that song more sothan anything else.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I like.
I wouldn't even do this is howyou do it.
Return of the Mac, candy Rain,those songs you can.
But I mean, before I let go,it's a safe bet.
You can put your money on itand know you're going gonna get

(32:24):
a nice little reaction from itgotcha.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, that makes sense.
But to realize back in, yeah,like I said, um, this is, this
was just me.
Uh, giving fox's roses for wipeme down, I don't like I say I
have.
No, I have little to noinformation how white me down
was made or whatever, but likeyes, this is, this is if if fox
is at peace with just life andhe's just cool with you, know,

(32:48):
and he just wanted to get awayfrom the limelight.
More power to you, sir.
I hope you're living a.
I hope you're living your lifebro well, I also hope.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Uh, you know, finances aren't a thing.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying that's like just
everything overall.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Just, I hope you're living life comfortably yeah,
yeah, because you know sometimes, because sometimes someone like
a Boosie, who doesn't releasenew music as often as our newer
artists do, sometimes they goperform because they need it,
because they need the money.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
They need the money.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
And maybe he doesn't need the money or he's just like
, hey, you guys can go do it.
Just break me off, right.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Like I said, hopefully he's living
comfortably, because I will saythis, what really sparked this
question?
For real, for real, because youknow it's funny, my homeboy
shout out 104 Kenny.
He would always talk about thatLike he would be a lot.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
He would be really frustrated when rappers would
make like wipe me downreferences and say like boosie
and I would too.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I'd be like like boosie isn't the only one on
that song and it's not even hissong.
Yeah, he's a feature.
Yeah, like kind of equivalentto uchiwale by uh, brave heart,
but that's a whole nother storyanyway.
That's a whole nother story but,yeah, this is basically just me
giving you roses, fox, I hopeyou're living comfortably and
you know no financial problemsor any problems at that, of
course.
So, yeah, but yeah, we're goingto move on to Guess the Bars 20
, can you pass me that?

(34:43):
So, for the people that don'tknow what guess the bars is, we
passed each other some bars andwe read it off the f scale,
which is fire, ferocious, flat,frisbee, fecal, and yeah, we try
to figure out who it is andyeah, we just go from there.
Um, give me a second, I'm goingto see if I can find these.
Microsoft Word, the paper.

(35:06):
Well, no, the paper is put up,because I was supposed to be
backing up right now.
So it's somewhere.
It's somewhere.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Turn up.
I just did a little briefresearch.
I'll do a little more in depthlater on.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Okay, Would it be possible to add that to uh, at
the end of tony's topics, can weadd that whatever?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
research he did.
We could do that, yeah, orright before or right before, or
before, or after.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
I I mean whatever yeah, because I feel like you're
gonna yeah before, becausey'all gonna yeah.
By that point you're gonna beburnt out, we're gonna be we're
gonna be too deep in.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Oh, y'all gonna be burnt.
I feel like y to be burnt out.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
We're going to be too deep in.
Y'all going to be burnt.
I feel like y'all going to beburnt out.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
I don't want y'all to burn out so fast.
Yeah, right too.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Just know, you know how during Just do a little
teaser, how the halftime showhad a little teaser, right, you
know what I mean, definitely.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Anyway.
So we're gonna move on againstthe bars.
Um, I gotta get you the, uh, Igotta get you the little scale.
I mean, at this point, tanaka,if you don't know the scale,
shit by now, I don't tell you no, that's fine, I'll probably.
I got it no no, no, I'm gonnagive it to you because you're
the guest, tanaka, I can't, Idon't know.
If you don't know by now, thenI don't know, but um, let me

(36:32):
just write it down Big, too low.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I'm glad y'all are happy to see each other.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
It's gonna be a fun conversation.
Not, this man's one of theshenanigans man.
Ain't that right?
Twin Twin Talking that money.
Long the shenanigans man, it'snot shenanigans, Ain't that
right?
Twin, twin.
You know this man right.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Talking that money long.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
That money long.
What's up man you over therecoaching Real bro?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Man, I'm trying to coach Real and Lonnie, trying to
get them right.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Like I said, you know , yo Lonnie with them clean
versions bro.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
With the youth man.
Hey, listen them clean versions.
Y'all sleeping on the cleanversions.
You can play it anywhere.
Yeah, I mean it's not the songof choice in the club, but it
doesn't mean you can't play itin the club.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yo, they're asking me how to use Audacity.
Audacity's crazy.
Alright, I'm going to start itoff, since I got it in front of
me.
She got an Android.
Her message is lime green.
I search one name and it endsup seeing 20 tings Nadine,
christine, justine, kathleen,charlene, pauline, claudine.
Man, I pack them in this phonelike some s oh my bad, like some

(37:47):
sardines.
I just added damn for somereason, and they send me naked
pictures.
It's the small things, youniggas still taking pictures on
the gulf stream.
My youngins, richer than yourappers, and they all stream.
I really hate you been sellingthem false dreams, man.
If, if your pub was up for sale, I'd buy the whole thing.

(38:07):
For some reason, I think thisis like a New York drill rapper.
I don't know why.
This just sounds like some.
I can see them doing thatlittle sturdy shit to this.
I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
No, I don't see it as that.
I see it as he's definitely anOG.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Think so.
And he has some people underhim he might, I mean he might be
, that's what it sounds like tome.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
At first I was gonna say like wayne, but then I was
just like not.
What gave it away is, he said,my youngins.
Yeah, I'm like, oh okay, soyeah you might have some.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
This don't sound like wayne at all.
I'm trying to think.
I give it a flat.
It wasn't bad.
I feel like on the beat it'd bebetter.
It was cool.
I give it a flat, flat fur,flat fur.
It was cool.
I won't just give it a straightflat.
It wasn't like, yeah, but itwas cool, I fuck with it.

(39:02):
So C-Town B who we got?

Speaker 3 (39:06):
this is 20's favorite rapper and a record called
First Person Shooter this isAubrey.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Of course it was.
I knew Drake was gonna make anappearance.
I knew Drake was gonna make anappearance.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I had to do it for 20 man.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
You know what's crazy ?
To this day I still haven'theard this song All the way
through.
I don't know that last album, Idon't know why I didn't
necessarily avoid it.
Last album, I don't know, Idon't know why I just kind of I
didn't necessarily avoid it.
I don't know, I just didn'tlisten to it.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
The desire wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, I don't know.
Have you listened to?
For All my Dogs?
That's what it is right For Allmy Dogs.
Yeah, have you listened to?
For All my Dogs.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
That's the one with Rich.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Baby, daddy and First Person Shooter I.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Baby, daddy and First Person Shooter.
I haven't heard it.
Yeah.
Not outside of the ones thatnot outside of all the Singles.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah, yeah, because I think I Don't.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Give a Fuck is on there too, right, I don't, I
ain't gonna count, I don't yougiving no fuck.
No, no, I don't.
Yeah, I don't know that record.
I ain't gonna lie to you, yougiving no fuck.
But yeah, ja was definitely.
You know the song that sparkedit all.
He was just like you know.

(40:39):
Did I not hear you know thealbum?
I was like, yeah, I didn'treally.
It was like what 23 songs orsomething like that, was it?
Oh, I don't know lie, I didn'treally.
It was like what 23 songs orsomething like that, or
something pretty long.
And then on top of that, like,yeah, I don't know, I don't know
why, it just kind of went underthe radar.
For real, you know, I don'tknow if it was the time that it
was released in or what you knowwhat it was and I feel like I

(41:01):
have the album.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I just didn't a lot of those songs I like try to
avoid, because he keepsswitching up the fucking tempo
of the song and that shit ohyeah, yeah, he was so much as a
dj.
That shit pisses me off so muchyeah, because it's hard to mix.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
Yeah, because I will say, though, that um the video
for first person oh, that shitis hard, yeah, yeah I I only
recently like seen it.
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't see itwhen it I commend them.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I commend them for that.
That shit was hard yeah yeah,that shit was hard I seen.
Yeah, I seen it when it cameout because I follow like all
the like, I will follow some ofthe um hip-hop blogs so, yeah,
that joint was hard.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Though I be texting with a bod shit.
We both freaky, just tryingshit.
Main ninja getting superjealous.
He don't even know about theother fellas.
I need a Mr Clean.
Make that pussy beam.
Okay, I just might need a bakerMake that pussy cream.

(42:00):
Okay, you woke up mad at meBefore you even brush your teeth
.
Woke up mad at me what you say.
Okay, you woke up mad at mebefore you brush your teeth.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
You even brush your teeth I mean because that's
probably the first thing youwant to do before you wake up
Brush your teeth.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
I'm saying, though, I'll be texting somebody and say
what were you just trying tosay?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
I think said person is saying their priorities are
all in the wrong order.
Like you wake up mad atsomebody I don't know, Something
like that.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
And be a young boy.
And that's my final answer.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
I need a Mr Clean Make that pussy beam.
Okay, I just might need a bakerMake that pussy cream Okay.
You woke up mad at me beforeyou even.
Oh, so he's talking to the dude.
That's mad.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Sure, that was a slight troll answer.
I'm not gonna lie huh oh no,he's not.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
He said he picked.
He said he thinks that the NBAyoung boy.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
But yeah, it's a flat it's pretty flat.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Well, it's actually funny that both of y'all didn't
catch that, that that's actuallya chick yeah, I didn't know
main nigga getting super jealous.
I felt like that when what hegave it away.
I mean, unless it's like SaucySantana or something.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Well, because what do you?
They said Let me see.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
I need a Mr Clean to make that pussy beam.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Yeah, I don't know.
I thought for some reason itwas like a dude saying that he
gonna make the girl like.
I don't know, I don't know,like because I'd be texting with
a bi chick, so like we bothfreaky, just trying I thought he
on some like, like somethreesome type you feel me like
the chick he texting she f withanother girl.
So they got the three, you knowwhat I'm saying like I thought

(44:23):
that's what he was talking aboutbecause because they said we
both freaky, you feel me.
So that's why I didn't think itwas a female.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
So main nigga getting super jealous.
Yeah, like he over there, likeoh, he don't know that that girl
has another.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Yeah, like the chick I'm texting like your, his, her
main dude don't even know thatyou feel me like he over there,
super jealous.
He don't even know about themother.
Fuck, that's tapping that.
Like I'm only.
I'm only one of them, like mypartner them had ran through
shawty feeling tight joint likethat's how I was thinking,

(45:01):
interpreting it, you know what Imean.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Thank you, tanaka.
Opening up minds, that's what Idon't know.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
That's just how was thinking interpreting it, you
know what I mean.
Thank you, Tanaka.
Opening up minds, that's what'sup.
I don't know, that's just how Iread it, man, but yeah, who we
got, man.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
That was Megan Thee Stallion.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Okay, that was a song called Captain Hook.
Oh, I know.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Captain Hook, hook, captain Hook.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Are heard.
Captain hug, I feel like Iheard one of y'all played like
at a party or like some, sometype of function.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
You know I'm saying first time, you heard it though.
Oh, dude, when I was looking upuh, you know when she was hot,
and you know looking up uh anytype of twerk music, because I
remember back during bailoutmonday that was like a segment
of bailout monday trying to lookup so yeah, let's ask you, or
it could have been, or it couldhave been, um, she probably

(45:50):
something on the breakfast club.
She probably had an interview onthe breakfast club and she was
like you know, we're talkingabout it and I went and I
listened to it I'm not gonna lie, this is my favorite.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
This is my favorite version of megan the stallion.
Just look wise.
Probably not rap wise.
I mean rap wise.
She's doing about the same, notsaying that she was ever.
This is my favorite.
This is my favorite version ofMegan Thee Stallion.
Just look wise.
Probably not rap wise.
I mean rap wise.
She's doing about the same, notsaying that she was ever bad or
didn't make any improvements.
But I ain't gonna lie.
Shawty was thick, like like I,and I hope I hope that she's
gotten thinner because forhealth reasons and she's like

(46:20):
healthy.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Yes, yeah that's.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
And if that's the case, cool, I'm not mad at it.
But boy, this fucking video.
Boy, that ass was assing boy, Iain't gonna lie I ain't gonna
lie to you, boy.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Well, so yeah, we'll ask you 20.
What temperature do you thinkMeg the Stallion is right now in
the industry?

Speaker 2 (46:41):
In the industry.
I think she's very, I thinkshe's flat, you know, because I
think with Tori you know eitheron her side or not.
And she's not.
She's not that prominent figureanymore, it's more so like a
Glorilla.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
That's really Glorilla, and Sexy Red has
really taken over.
Has really taken over that andI don't know.
And it's crazy and I'm gladthat Glorilla was able to prove
me wrong, but Glorilla's reallytaking over and I don't know.
I feel I'm not saying Sexy Redis getting stale, but I don't
know.
Well, glorilla actually couldcorrect, yeah, but I mean it's.

(47:29):
I feel like it's deeper thanthat.
I feel like it's more of likejust I won't say her as a person
, because I feel like sexy redisn't a bad person either.
Like all the decisions shemakes, I feel like it's on brand
for her and it's like it's likenothing, like too outlandish,
like I remember she got into afight with somebody at the
airport for reasons like sexyred, yeah, sexy red on brand
whatever.
It's sexy, red, cool, but like,like even a little shit.

(47:53):
Like her leaking a sex tape.
Like I was like what did y'allexpect from her?
Like y'all just think she'sjust sitting at home playing
video games.
Like like that's what I'msaying, like that's why I feel
like, even when that happened,like it was news for a moment,
but it was like like even likeher response was funny, like she
was like damn, like y'allcouldn't tell that was a leak.
Like bro, I got freakier shitthan this.

(48:13):
Like yeah, like y'all, y'alllike the y'all, like the bad
shit, like I mean y'all likesome weak shit like this is so
do y'all think that?

Speaker 3 (48:23):
do you think that meg could regain like that?

Speaker 1 (48:27):
look at this point, anything is possible.
Because I always say this Inever would have thought mick
mill would have be able torebound after back to back, and
I didn't think.
I didn't, hell.
I didn't think ray sherman wasgonna be able to rebound after
um, no flex zone and no type.
And I didn't think, um, there'sanother one, there's another
one.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I don't know I can't think of it right now, but
anything's possible.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I mean it depends on whatshe wants to do right I mean I
do feel like you know even herherself, like I feel like she's
kind of running I'm not going tosay running away, but she's
kind of deferring from thespotlight.

(49:08):
I feel like with everythingthat she had going on, you know
it changes you.
Whether it was Tori, whether itwas her friend, was it Kelly?
Whoever it was, you know thatchanges you and, like you know,
you don't want to be in certaincircles which comes with the
industry, and you probably don'twant to experience anything

(49:30):
like that again.
So I mean, yeah, you make thestallion, so people are always
going to know who you are.
But you probably, you know youdon't want to be with those type
of people or be in thatposition again and, being that,
you have this target on yourback because, like they say,

(49:52):
don't read the comments for areason.
It's hard to do when you'rethat person because, think about
it, you have so many fanssaying that we love you, meg,
but the ones that are stickingwith her is what's her, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
What's her fan base called?

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Oh, the oh, I don't know.
I don't think I know her nameHotties.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Oh, the Hotties.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
So the Hotties are saying thatlike we love you, and then you
have everybody else no, they'resupporting her, but they're
saying like, yeah, like she'splaying chess compared to all
these other rappers.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
You know, I don't know, that's just what oh,
that's what, that's what, that'swhat, that's what the narrative
is yeah, that's what they'reclaiming.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
Like, compared to these other rappers, she's
playing chess.
I hope that's the case playingchess.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Shout out to just the way she's moving.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
I feel like it's kind of like on a chameleon.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
I mean not necessarily like chameleon, but
like chameleon didn't reallycare about the music.
He came out with songs andmixtapes and all that stuff, but
he had a bigger picture yeah,now he owns like a record label
but now that I think about MeganThee Stallion, I didn't think
she was going to recover after.
I don't even remember whatfucking album that was, but then
she bounced it back with thatJapanese song.

(51:09):
What's Japanese?

Speaker 2 (51:12):
And that song was huge.
That song was huge, that songwas yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah, that song was pretty huge and it's TikTok
famous and I mean, yeah, yeah,so, oh, so.
But yeah, shout out to.
Megan, I gotta watch thatCaptain Hook video again.
Boy, that ass was assing, soyou want me to pick one from
here.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Pick one yeah pick one, Any one Okay cool, I have
my own.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
You know what I found ?
My own, actually.
I'll save this for another day.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
You said you found your own for another day you
said you found your own.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, you sent.
He sent you one.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Oh, I didn't send him a, no, I'm saying, he sent you
one.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah, what you talking about, 20?

Speaker 2 (51:49):
It's for Guess the Bars.
Yeah, I know, I got a bar.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Well, no, you can't use your own bars, you gotta
what?

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Then that defeats the how you going to guess the bar
when you already know what it is.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Isn't that the point?
No, it's not the point.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
The point is to guess the bar.
What are we talking about?
Swinney, that's your boy.
Swinney, what type of operationyou?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
running over there, man Listen, listen, listen.
I'm always for the streets, but, baby, not for the block.
Came here for what I want.
Can't hate me for what I got,Because when I add it up, buddy,
it ain't a lot.
I count fast feet to beeverything that I'm not, but put

(52:38):
it all together, oh Lord, themtwo country boys ain't no bum,
no back seats taken.
I told y'all.
Swear for God, I will.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
And what makes this worse?
20?
Is this not even your firstappearance on the show, man?

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Well in his defense.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Oh, you guys didn't do the guest of bars.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Well, no, the Alvin one was the album review oh,
okay, okay so this is his secondtime doing the guest of bars
and also in his defense, thatwas two years ago.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Well, one a year and two each other, right yeah, okay
, yeah, I forgot about that,it's all good clearly someone
doesn't listen to the show.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Oh, yeah, he doesn't.
It's all good.
Clearly, someone doesn't listento the show.
Oh yeah he doesn't?

Speaker 2 (53:25):
It's all good, listen to this.
Um, this is, this is.
It's a flat for More so towardsflat, more so towards flat,
more so towards flat.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Yeah 3-2 over there man 3-2, what you mean that?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
man not happy as hell when he said that.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Flat Flat.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
You want to take a guess at who it is?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I could always take a stab at it.
I want to say Nardo Wick, therewe go.
Honestly, nardo Wick is noteven the one that's a shot, boy,

(54:27):
nardo wick.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
I boy, that's talk about it.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Man, I totally forgot he just dropped six of the
songs he playing I hear it, Ihear the project, but all right
the ep.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I guess I say he from Florida too, ain't he I?

Speaker 3 (54:45):
don't think so.
Do you think so?
I think so.
I want to say like Jacksonvilleor something like that.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Yeah, but anywho.
So yes, no, that is not NardoWick, this is actually Bubba
Sparks.
This is a song called Overcome.
Are you familiar with Overcomeby Bubba Sparks?
No, I'm not familiar.
I Are you familiar withOvercome by Bubba Sparks?
No, I'm not familiar.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
I'm not familiar with his game.
Do you know Bubba?

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Sparks, that's all I know.
Bubba Sparks.
I'm not familiar with his gameFigured Alright, let's see.
Let's see what this next one is.
One day we gonna graduate andcop a brick, and that's the key.
That's the key, my nigga.
Listen up, I'm about to go andget rich.

(55:32):
Stand back and watch, if youwant to.
Nigga Me, and oh me, I want mypockets fat and a battered bitch
.
Tired of seeing niggas flaunt,I want to flaunt too nigga.
Tired of seeing niggas flaunt,I want to flaunt too.
Nigga.
Watch the roller in a fuckingcrown vic trying to lock a nigga
up.
That's what they do, nigga well, want to know a funny thing

(55:53):
about this shit.
Even if you let them kill yourdreams, it'll haunt you, nigga,
haunt you.
I feel like I know what this is, but for some reason, some of
some of these words is like thewording is, some of them aren't.
I don't know.
It feels like it's coming andit's not.
It's coming and it's not.
It's coming and it's not, buttrap talk.
It's like some old school traptalk, though.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
It feels like a Gucci or a Jeezy type of.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
It doesn't seem like Atlanta, it seems like some,
some off Atlanta, like it'd belike Alabama, mississippi, texas
, one of those, probably Texas,I don't know Crown Vic, I feel
like Texas maybe.
Um, I'll give it a, I'll giveit flat.
It's cool.
So this is yes, it's not reallydoing anything for me but it's
not really doing anything for me, but it's not terrible.

(56:42):
It's not terrible, but yeah,yeah, that's my guess, somebody
from Texas, or one of themoff-brand.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
So this is somebody from North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
Beautiful Off-brand as hell.
The baby.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
J Cole.
A.
Tale of Two Cities.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Really, that's Nice Watch Run.
It Is that that.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
No, oh, you talking about the album.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
No, does he say that in the song?

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Watch.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Run it Hands in the air?
I think so, yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Oh yeah, I see it now one day when it gonna break,
and that's the key.
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah,definitely.
I'll say the first time I heardthis was I feel like I vaguely

(57:42):
heard this like on, like somejust hip hop early type shit, by
the way.
So I put two.
I put two and two together.
I'm not gonna lie as as akendrick fan any kendrick fans,
any kendrick fans out there I'mgonna just let you know the odds
of him ever coming out with acollaboration album with anybody
is slim to none.
I don't see him ever coming outwith a collaboration out with

(58:04):
anybody.
His, his, the way his mindworks.
I don't.
I don't think that's ever gonnahappen.
So just I don't.
I don't know.
I randomly thought about that acouple days ago and I was.
I just felt like I had to putthat out there.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
I don't know the way his, yeah, I feel like it would,
just like it would, really itwould.
It would, no, it would, itwould really have to make sense
to him.
You know, I'm saying like, andhe's like a very precise yeah,
he's very like, you know,perfectionist.
So it's like, if it's not, ifit's even slightly off, he's
like all right, we'll just,we'll just, you know, either put

(58:37):
a song on the album orsomething like that, but we're
not gonna do a whole project.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Yeah, you feel me like.
Yeah, I don't see thathappening.
I just thought I thought it outthere and then he.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Well, I'm sorry, what made me think of?

Speaker 1 (58:47):
this was um, because you remember him and j cole did
the flip thing where he I thinkhe freestyled on this, didn't he
?

Speaker 3 (58:56):
oh I forgot about yeah and then j cole freestyled
on.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Was it all right?

Speaker 3 (59:01):
no, I can't remember what it was.
I do remember that they didthat, though, and that's when
everyone got all excited, yeah,excited because they didn't know
that.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Yeah.
I forgot what J Cole rapped on,I feel like it was alright, but
I feel like I'm wrong.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Yeah, I can't remember.
You remember that 20?

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Um, vaguely, I don't remember the beat that.
Yeah, I vaguely remembersomething like that happening.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
I put my feelings aside.
You want me to die, but baby,I'm still alive.
But baby, I'm staying alive.
Supposed to be one of a kindyou putting on miles I thought
you was down for the ride.
I'm trying to turn up her style.
We going, chanel, she geteverything in her size.
She in some shit with anotherguy, I don't even care.
Whenever I see you, you mine.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
That's some toxic shit.

Speaker 1 (59:59):

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Baby, I don't understand a lot.
That's deep.
You want me to die.
It's kind of deep, supposed tobe one of a kind read it one
more time, tanaka, I'm sorry Iput my feelings aside.
You want me to die, but, baby,I'm staying alive.
Supposed to be one of a kindyou're putting on miles.

(01:00:23):
I thought you was down for theride.
I'm trying to turn up her style.
We going Chanel.
She get everything in her size.
She in some shit with anotherguy, I don't even care.
Whenever I see you, you mine.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Toxic.
That's how you moving Tanaka,even when she was another guy.
You don't care, you mine.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
That's how you moving .
I'm not going to lie to youWatching this new show I've been
watching.
It's like Shout out to the Chi,it's just interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
You just started watching the Chi.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Yeah, I just found out about this show.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Dude, you're like six years behind.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
I don't watch TV, but that's my whole thing.
You're talking to somebody.
I don't go looking for shows.
I get suggestions from peopleand then I go check it out you
have to actually sit him down.
I don't be looking on thesesites for what's the new show?

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
What season are you on?

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Season 6.
Season 6?
.
I'm waiting for the next seasonto come out yeah, yeah, I done,
I done danced through thatwhole like the past week.
You feel me?

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
so you started from season 1, yeah, and now you're
on season 6 yeah it's impressivethank you that's what I was
doing with the Marvel shit, so Idon't I don't I believe him,
but I actually need to get backon that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
I mean, this is interesting because I'm really
intrigued to what record this is, because you Want Me To Die is
deep, like somebody you'rehaving feelings for, and they
want you to die.
It's like damn, what did wantyou to die?
You know I'm saying it's likedamn, what did you do to you
feel me?
What did you do to the otherperson that they?

(01:02:31):
You know I'm saying, but yeah,you still got this feeling like
whenever I see you, even if youwould another dude, you heard me
like you're forever gonna bemine, type shit like that's you
know what I feel like that's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
That's one of those, and I remember we have an off
air conversation about Usher.
You got it bad.
It's one of those.
You got it bad is a veryinteresting song.
I'm not even going to die.
That's going to be anotherquestion.
That's going to be a questionof the day.
We're going.

(01:03:05):
That's another episode, butyeah, but do you have a guess on
who it could be future?

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
well, I'll give you a quarter of a point.
This uh, I'm gonna, did I rateit, I'm gonna get this.
Uh, yeah, I don't, I'm flatferocious.
I don't know why I just kind oflike this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
I don't know right, yeah, like cause you messy, just
like Drip said, shout out djtrip.
Anyway, no, I'm just talkingshit, but um, nah, that was um,
oh, yeah, I'll give you.
You give you like a quarter ofa quarter of a point, because
it's not future.
However, he is from atlanta.
That was a little baby.
Okay, it's off a song calledstaying alive, are you?

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
familiar with.
Uh, staying alive, that's.
That's funny.
You say that that I thatactually came to mind, but I was
like no, because I heard therecord.
Yeah, that's crazy.
No, it's funny because Iliterally recently looked that
record up.
Why?
Because I was like why wouldyou do that?
What is DJ Khaled doing?
He usually drops an album, likeevery year.

(01:04:00):
Ty and I was like I feel likehe's getting ready.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Oh, have you not heard that?
No about dj khaled.
No, oh bro, like he's about todrop an album.
And they were like.
He was like, oh yeah, I gotdrake on the album.
And then drake commented on thepost and was like, must be,
drake bell oh yeah, must be whatmust be.
Oh, you don't know who that is.
You don't watch tv, so therewas you don't watch TV so
there's a show on Nickelodeoncalled Drake and Josh.

(01:04:27):
He's an actor named Drake Bell.
He's known for shows likeNickelodeon, shows like the
Amanda Show, Drake and Bell.
I think he had a couple moviesout and basically that's what DJ
Khaled was like.
Oh yeah, I got some songs withDrake on there and Drake kind of
cited.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
When was this?
This was recent, yeah this isrecent.
Oh, recently.
This is recent.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
In the span of like a few weeks, maybe Right, and he
was like must be Drake Bell.
Drake commented, drakecommented, it said that Must be
at Drake Bell.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Oh, kind of side.
Yeah, so like I'm not on thealbum, that's what he's saying,
I guess.
Oh damn.
That's what's implying I uh, nocause, I was just curious,
cause I was like I was thinkingback to the last project.
I don't know how, you know whatI think, because I was like you
know, usually the Grammys behaving like some crazy

(01:05:24):
nominations, like why would theyget nominated for a Grammy?
But yeah man, khaled.
And then I realized I was likedang, it's really been three
years since Khaled dropped bro.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
You know what's crazy Now that you say that?
It is interesting that you saythat because now that I think
about it, just to tie everythingup, I think that's how I knew
that florida, uh, nardo wicklesfrom florida, because the way he
was back in nardo, he was likeoh yeah, you know florida, you
know florida.
We got to stand together, stickthe other block florida stand.
You know the cali shit and soyeah, no, so it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
so I watched the music video, or yeah, whatever
it was the studio for Alarm ofGod.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Yeah, well, you can read that, read that one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
But yeah, basically, I'm sorry I know it's
long-winded, but I saw thestudio.
I guess they made like a studiovideo or something for that
song Stayin' Alive, and it'sjust basically like I don't know
, khaled like dancing around,like vibing while they're in the
studio, like rapping theirverses and stuff, and it's a

(01:06:39):
very interesting record that'snot a good record.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
It's an interesting joint Staying alive.
Yeah, well, you can read that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
But yeah, I heard yeah, so I have heard that
record, that joint dropped inwhat 23?
Maybe, yeah, and I guess Idon't know.
I guess it didn't move theneedle, so I don't know what
you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
It had no substance in it.
That's why.
Alright.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Dissolve the solution .
Nationwide recruiting.
I don't want your damn girl,she's Craigslist prostitution.
Ice rice, don't get blinded bythe sight.
I could fracture streetlights.
Rolling dice with Mark PriceRap game.

(01:07:33):
Janet Jackson in the cactus.
Jack Black bends Ice on my ear.
Got me balling like the Pac-10.
I should know this.
There's a lot going on in thisfreaking record.
I should know this.
Very interesting.

(01:07:58):
Balling like the Pac-10.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
What dude, I can't.
That doesn't even go back towhere do you?

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
are you talking about what he just said?

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
no, no that because I'm thinking, oh, there must be
some underlying issue betweenprobably that, uh probably sided
with kendrick or something no,but oh my bad, I keep thinking
this is like an old thing, thisis recent literally just yeah,
yeah, okay okay, I'm sorry forsome reason.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Yeah, because he definitely had a couple records
with kindred too, wait.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
So who who made?
I thought khaled made the beatfor dre.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
What beat um, come on staying alive.
No, what are you talking about?
Made what beat?

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
no um, or made beats for Drake um.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
DJ Khaled.
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
Khaled made beats.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
I thought he was an executive producer yeah no I
think well, I could be wrong, Idon't know.
I thought I thought cause yousaid sided with Drake, I mean
sided with Kendrick.
Oh, I don't know, maybe heheard.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Maybe he heard that Khaled said some shit about I
don't know.
I don't fucking know.
This is fucking I don't knowbro.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
I mean it has to be that, though it has to be
something.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
That's the only reason why he would, he would
say something like that, I wouldfeel oh well.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
I don't know, it's just not it's a mess it's not
looking good, it's not it's notlooking good for the boy, right?

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
anyway, so yeah, my guess well, your rate first oh,
um this, oh snap, I'm droppingit.
This I give it a to, not I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
It's a flapper.
Now the artists.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
I feel like they're like an outlast artist.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Truth be told, I don't know where he's from, but
this is an artist by the name ofRiff Raff.
Are you familiar with Riff Raff?

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
I think I know I don't even know what song I've
heard of Riff Raff, but likeit's a song called Brain Freeze,
are you?

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
familiar with Brain Freeze probably not.
I feel like I should.
I mean those lyrics soundfamiliar.
Brain freeze Are you familiarwith brain freeze?
Probably not.
You said you know this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
I feel like I should.
I mean, those lyrics soundfamiliar.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
It's familiar Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Got you he's uh, was he from Texas, I think?

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
Maybe.
Yeah, I think he's from Texas,maybe.
Alright, last go round.
Feel like Tupac.
I got two bitches.
They fucking in the spot.
Her ass fat.
I'm grabbing, gripping, i'masqueeze it till it pop.
You know how I get around.
I get your pants down.
Then I rock Hood nigga, i'mapull my pants down.

(01:11:18):
Keep on my socks.
Jamaican nigga, she be feelingon my hair.
She like my locks.
I put her head on my cock and Itold her suck it, don't stop.
Hey, you can call me Tommy.
I got the drink up in my belly.
This is a frisbee.
This is not good.

(01:11:41):
This joint probably sound fireon a beat.
I'm not going to lie, but thisjoint is kind of whack.
I'm not going to lie, but thisjoint is kind of whack.
I'm not going to lie.
Lyrically wise, this shit islike.
I mean, I can appreciate.
I can appreciate the staying ontopic and the slight metaphors.
You can call me Tommy.
I get the drink in my belly.

(01:12:01):
It took me a while to realizewho he was talking about.
I was like from Martin.
I was like, okay, rugrats Gotit.
I feel like Tupac.
I got two bitches fucking inthe spot.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Wait, wait.
What is the Hold up?
Say that last line.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
You can call me Tommy .
I got the drink in my belly.
What's the reference?
Tommy Pickles, from the Rugratsthe baby.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
It's actually a double entendre.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Beautiful.
You can tell me that later.
All right, I feel like Tupac.
Two bitches, they fucking inthe spot.
Is that a double entendre too?
Because I didn't get thateither.
If it is, it went over my head.
I don't get that either.
Say it is it went over my head.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
I don't get that either.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Wait, say it again my bad, I feel like Tupac got two
bitches they fucking in the spot.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
It's the lyrics after Her ass fat.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
I'm grabbing, gripping, i'ma squeeze it till
it pop.
After that, you know, I getaround, I get your pants down,
then I rock.
Oh that's I, then I rock, I getit wrong.
It took him two of them, so Ihad to wait for the metaphor
Gotta be patient, you gotta beobviously.

(01:13:13):
I done already forgot.
He didn't reference Tupac.
See, yeah, this is gettingfrisbee.
It's like a frisbee flat.
It's a frisbee flat.
I'll give him he more leaningtowards the flow.
I don't know.
He in the middle, he in themiddle somewhere, I don't know,
it's a 2-7 out here man 2-7.

(01:13:35):
You know what I feel like.
For some reason, I feel likethis is like 2000, 2011, 2012,
waka Flocka.
This is what this sounds liketo me.
Watch it be like fucking J Coleor something.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Go ahead.
Who is this?
It's a rapper named NL LeeChopper.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
That makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
It's a song called Picture Me Grapin'.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
I've heard of that.
Is that the one where he'ssampling Picture Me Rollin'?
Yeah, I've heard of it.
I don't think I've ever heardthe song and, um, no, the reason
.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
That's the double entendre, the Tommy cause I
didn't know about the Rugrats.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
You know what I'm saying oh, I just he said he got
the drink in my belly, so I'mthinking like he's drinking a
bottle okay, but that's what I'msaying.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Tommy is a character in Rugrats.
Yeah, okay, I didn't know that.
The reason it's the doubleentendre is because Belly, the
movie Tommy, is getting his dicksucked by that little girl
maybe that might be it it couldbe both.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
I feel like that means more of that.
That's probably suck.

Speaker 3 (01:14:42):
It don't stop but drank up in my belly like I
don't know I just did, did thatcharacter from rugrats have a
baby yeah, that's what I'msaying, though, like he was
always, he did he always notalways, but he's a baby so I'm
like pretty okay I mean babiesdrink bottles.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
That's why that's my I don't know that's that's what
I reach for.
I've never seen belly, so Iyeah, I don't know'm going to
give him the double entendre.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Yeah, you can give it to him.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
I'll fuck with NLE.
He's interesting, veryinteresting, alright, last one.
Oh, wait a minute, my bad.
Oh yeah, keep that.
I forgot it's Tanaka's turn.
I'm sorry, I just keep it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Nah, I was pointing at him because that's one of
your boys, ain't?

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
it, that's one of your boys.
Oh, you fuck with NLE.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
NLE cool, nle cool.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
He was one of your top picks, wasn't he?
I could've sworn.
Last time we had a discussionabout hip-hop and rappers he
would have put it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
He said NLE Choppa.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
I don't remember.
That doesn't sound like me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Definitely said.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
NLE Choppa, very interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Definitely said NLE Choppa.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Probably popular.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Yeah, we were saying young artists hot in the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Philip just make sure you make sure you separate them
, because I feel like you'regonna.
I know which one it is okay,well, I just feel like he gonna
read I'm trying to say I rockwith little bivy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
But little pump is a little chump, but body little
yachty.
Then give him some little lumps, probably just because I'm
older and got me a little grump.
Because when the kids get inthe rover, little yadi getting
some bumps, little dirt getputting in work.
But fuck this little perp.
I stepped to his face andslapped the shit out.
His little smirk.
Little boozy told little uzitake off that little skirt.

(01:16:38):
Son was still chilling, hisfeelings just got a little hurt.
Oh, it's a New York rapper.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
That man has beef with Yachty.
Well, a lot of little rappers.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
That's what they sound like.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Yeah, yeah trying to think of a new york rapper that

(01:17:20):
hates southern music pick all ofthem.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
I mean any of them that can't.
Any of them born in fucking the70s.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
So yeah, there's got to be like a 90s, 2000s rapper.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Y'all know how hateful y'all fucking New York
rappers are, especially the onesthat would be in their 50s.
Be in their 50s now.
Be in their 50s, now 50s andolder now, hell, probably 42.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
I don't know, though, does Ghostface, because I want
to say Ghostface, but I don'tsee him hating on the young
generation like that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Yeah, I don't see that either.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Yeah, I don't see that either.
Yeah, I don't See.
The only person I didn't thinkof was D-Max, but I know D-Max
didn't rap this.
Yeah, I don't know who?

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Yeah, because the F word would have been thrown
around a lot more.
Yeah, being gay and all that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Um yeah, this Frisbee .

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Oh, because he's being so hateful to the youth.
Is that why he's gettingfrisbee?

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
I mean, it's like what them folk be saying Hickory
, dickory, dock, the mouse ranup the clock.
Oh damn, it's just kind of.
It's just kind of basic to me,man Chump, grump, bump, smirk,
skirt, chillin Hurt.
Kind of basic to me, man.
Chump, grump, bump, smirk,skirt, chillin' hurt, I don't

(01:19:10):
know man.
Frisbee, okay I mean, I guesshe, yeah, I guess he was upset.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Tanaka needs a.
He wants the rappers to youknow, make you feel like you
need a thesaurus.
Is it thesaurus?

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
It's just not really saying okay, make you feel like
you need a thesaurus, Is itthesaurus?
It's just not really sayingokay, this rapper, this rapper,
this rapper, this rapper, youknow.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
That's what it sounds like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Yeah, not a complex one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
You need a thesaurus yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Anyway.
So yeah, this is actually alittle disappointing, because
this is, this is your boy.
This is boy, by the way, yeahthis is this saigon.
Oh is it this is off of a songcalled little big.
Are you familiar with littlebig?

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
that's crazy.
That makes sense sense.
Now I could hear Saigon rapping.
No, I have not, you have not,okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Yeah, see what's up.
You're now growing Saigon bro.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
No, I like him better when he's making songs, when
it's like a diss song it's likehe kind of loses.
I don't know.
When he raps with a purpose, itcomes off better.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
He had a purpose.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
Purpose was fucking good yeah but him dissing on him
?
I don't know bro.
Him hating on the younggeneration.
That's not it.
That's not the Saigon.
I wouldn't listen to that typeof Saigon.
It's like no, I know Saigon islike he's trying to speak
positive for the community andsociety and stuff.
So hearing this is like I don'tknow.

(01:20:57):
Man, anyway, got you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Last but not least, I'm that nigga.
Same old nigga.
Ain't shit changed Name,getting bigger.
Hoes be choosing Booches berooting.
Fuck is you doing?
Bitch, start screwing.
I ain't here to play games.
Watch ya or kiss ya, bitch, usea flipper Me on them.
Dolphins since the 8th grade,bitch you be tossing.

(01:21:26):
I guess he's got a point toprove.
I don't know.
This is Jesus, what was it?
It was below flat Frisbee, yeah, frisbee.

(01:21:47):
This is a frisbee.
It sounds like every other.
Street.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Didn't move, it didn't move.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Yeah, it didn't move, that's what it sounds like it
didn't move.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
You got to it, just didn't move me.
That's what it sounds like itdidn't move me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
You going to take a guess?
You got a guess.
Nba Youngboy.
That's my final answer.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
I definitely don't hear.
Nba Youngboy, but this is arapper by the name of.
It's a West Coast rapper by thename of J305.
Are you familiar with J305?
I'm not familiar with J305.
It's a song called Use a Flip.
Have you ever heard of thatsong?
What's your favorite line off?
Use a Flip.
The first one.

(01:22:32):
Oh okay.
It makes sense.
It makes sense, cool, all right, y'all, that was Guess the Bars
, and we're going to move on tothe Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Hall of Fame Yep.
Hall of Fame Yep.
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Hall of Fame so the hall of fame was interesting

(01:23:12):
because I think that was thefirst time we ever had four
people on hall of fame.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
And let me see if we can find find this because I
actually wrote it down.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
These are your crocs turn up it's the Crocs that we
wore for the prison outfit.
Let's not get him riled up onthat Anyway.
So the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
You got to save it you see the big smile with 20
over here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
You got to save it, not we got.

Speaker 1 (01:23:39):
We'll talk about it later.
All right, so Hall of Fame.
So the nominees were DJ Unk,the Ladies of Murder Inc.
Lil Wayne's era of 2005 to 2006, and the whole Drake era from
2009 to 2024.
Shout out to DJ Tonic andLavender, including their
nominees, and the winner is forthe next inductee into the TNT

(01:24:02):
Podcast.
Hall of Fame is Lil Wayne's erafrom 2005 to 2006.
Appreciate everybody for votingand all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
How Drake lost.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
Because y'all didn't vote.
You didn't vote, did you votehow?

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
he lost.
Did you vote?
Did you vote 20?
Did you vote?

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
20?
.
I mean, hey, we left it wideopen for everybody to vote.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Yeah, what were y'all talking about?
Saying that Uncle's going towin easily?

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
I'm not going to lie, that's actually pretty sad.
That man died, and still lost.
That's crazy talk.
That's crazy talk, but anywho.
Well you know, since you're theguest, I'll let you go first.
Since it's the Hall of Fame,pick whatever you want to be

(01:24:51):
inducted Into the podcast Hallof Fame and why you pick that
inductee.
Alright, alright.
Is that your?

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
nominee.
No, that's not my nominee.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
You know that's going in.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
We're not there, yet I don't think I've ever worn
Crocs.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
So what did you wear with your outfit?

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
I never.
I don't think I wore any.
I had skates on.

Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
So I'm saying how did you?
You just had socks on, that'swhat I'm saying.
What had skates on?
I'm saying you just had sockson, that's what I'm saying.
What did you walk into theskating rink with?

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
I think I just had some regular shoes on.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
Oh, I think I wore mine to the strip club too,
though.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
I think I wore mine to work Crocs because folks be
swearing by these Crocs.
They just like Dude, I'mNorth't mind a work crocs
Because, like folk, be swearingby these crocs Like they, just
like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
Dude, I'm North, that's a big thing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
I can't wear crocs Because, ladies and gentlemen,
you just got to know yourselfand I know, if I ever invested
in some crocs for real, for real, I probably would never wear
shoes, ever again yeah, youwouldn't, I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
That's why ever again , yeah, you wouldn't, I wouldn't
.
Oh, so they are hellacomfortable.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
I mean they're not comfortable, they're just
convenient.
They're very convenient to wear, especially in the way of like
today, you know, depending onwhen you're watching this or
listening to this and guys bewearing Crocs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Who wears Crocs?
Bro, I have on Crocs now.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
I'm paying attention to what 20 be wearing.
I just know he be jacking withAC.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
That's not true, that's so not true.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Anyway, we don't want to get him sidetracked.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Tony, what's your nomination, bro?

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
That Georgia.
Snow man, it snowed twice inJanuary.
Georgia Snow, georgia Snow, bro, that that georgia snowman it
snowed twice in january.

Speaker 3 (01:26:46):
Georgia snow georgia snow.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Why are we?

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
inducting georgia snow into the tnt podcast hall
of fame.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
I mean it was more of like a.
This is, you know, tnt pod,like the hall of fame.
You know it's typically for agood thing, but this is just
more so memorable and howannoying it was yeah, I lost
like five hundred500 off thefucking Georgia Snow.
Yeah, I lost some money too,and it was very inconvenient.
You know, like you can't yeah,like that snow.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
It was definitely memorable.
Yeah, and Georgia Snow canceledTrap Fever, so you know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
Definitely did.
So, Georgia Snow.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
That's my nominee into the TNT Hall of Fame, at
least the 2025 version, whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Alright, so Tanaka what we got.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Well, I'm going to piggyback off of 20 here, but
I'm going to be a little morespecific.
The Jeezy Snowman contest.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Oh yeah, that was interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
I saw the snowman at one and I approved.
Like that was, that was dope,dope snowman.
You know, that they made youknow.
So it was interesting to seeeverybody's creativity With how
they made their snowman.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
But, um yeah, I enjoyed Seeing the different
snowman Jeezy, snowmen that wereentered into the contest that's
him knowing his crowd and sincehe said Jeezy, anything
attached with Jeezy is gonna win, so he already knows he's gonna
win but I enjoyed the snowmenright, so I'm gonna go

(01:28:20):
completely left with either oneof y'all, either one of y'all's
joint, right?
so I'm gonna go completely leftwith with either one of y'all,
with either one of y'all's joint, and I'm gonna nominate a
character, but a specificcharacter.
So I want to nominate the Jokerfrom Batman, but I want to
specifically nominate HeathLedger's Joker.

(01:28:41):
That was a very like in myopinion.
I don't know if you're big withsuperheroes, but like that's
like.
That is my favorite.
That is my favorite renditionof the Joker.
Right, once again, it had Jeezy.
You know your crowd and youknow most of our crowds are ATL
riders.
So, and you know as soon as yousaid Jeezy, that's a dope-ass
snowman.

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
as soon as they hear gz.

Speaker 1 (01:29:02):
Their fucking panties get moist anyway, so yeah
anyway, back on my um dang jokeryeah, I'm nominating that
because I'm just giving heathledger's roses.
He wasn't.
He wasn't able to see his, hischaracter come to life because
he passed away before the moviecame out.
But, um, if you've never seenthe dark knight, I'd highly
recommend you see the dark night.

(01:29:23):
That's like.
I feel like that is thegreatest batman movie ever like,
and we can, we can argue, wecan argue day and night to that.
But yeah, he pledged her.
He, um, really lived hischaracter and honestly and
truthfully, I feel like that'swhat really fucked him up in his
later life was because hereally lived that character for
real, for real, and it fuckedhim up mentally.

(01:29:45):
But, um, yeah, I mean, you know,they say that um actors have to
become like who they are or whothey're acting, so that they
can um and I feel like, well,yeah, and that's what I feel
like he did, boy, he put his allinto that character and yeah,
got the best of him.

(01:30:05):
But, yeah, that's my nomineeHeath Ledger Joker.
I might go watch that movieagain.
I might put that movie on,we're done anyway.
So, yeah, that's the nomineesGeorgia Snow versus the Jeezy
Snowman contest versus the HeathLedger Joker.
We're gonna put it on theInstagram and we will let y'all

(01:30:27):
vote and hopefully, this timey'all vote.
You know certain people, youknow whatever, so, yeah.
So up next we have the next songof the day.
Is that all we got?
Yeah, song of the day is gonnabe a song by Beyonce and it's

(01:31:18):
actually featuring Drake is asong called mine.
I don't know if you guys arefamiliar with the song, but, um,
that is one of.
That is probably one of, if notmy favorite songs by beyonce.
I'll give y'all a little bit ofinformation on mine.
Essentially, mine is a songabout the messy and complicated

(01:31:38):
aspects of love.
Track centers around doubt andtelling uncertainties she's
experienced in getting marriedand becoming a mother and
falling in love.
It delves into insecurities,communication breakdowns and
power struggles that that canarise in a relationship, even
when there is a strongunderlying connection.

(01:31:59):
Question Tanaka Beyonce cameout before Lemonade, correct?
yeah, that's correct andquestion the Solange situation.
When was that the Solangeelevator situation?
When did that?

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
happen, I think, in the swing oh, so this the.
Beyonce happened, did it?

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
Beyonce happened before.
Hold on, hold on, hold onBecause I'm not going to lie bro
, that was a very, that was avery, very random situation that
happened yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Were you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
Yeah, the elevator situation with her and Beyonce
and Jay-Z.
That was so weird.
I was like wait what, why isthis happening?
And then she comes out with allthis music and I'm like wait
what, why is this happening?

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
And then she comes out with all this music and I'm
like, ah, okay, this makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Yeah, in between, yeah, it was in between.
Oh, so Beyonce happened, thenthe elevator happened and then
Lemonade.
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
Okay, yeah, because I think the Carters project was
what 2015?

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
I thought it was like .
I thought the Carter's jointwas like 2016, 2017.
You know what it was 2017.
I now remember that because oneof the dancers used to like
dancing to anything.
I think it was anything.
I can do anything, I don't know, I don't want to get, I don't
want to go on a tangent withthat, but yeah, 2018.

(01:33:22):
Yeah, oh, damn, yeah, you wereway off.
Let yeah, oh, damn, yeah, youwere way off, let's see.
It captures the push and pullof wanting to be with someone
but also feeling afraid ofgetting hurt.
Drake's verse swerves throughB's and it adds a distinct
flavor and the confidence of theemotion that B brings to the
collab.

(01:33:42):
The song came out on the albumbeyonce, which came out in
december 13th 2013, and it wastrack number nine.
It released under parkwood andcolumbia records.
Um, to knock a question, areyou familiar with the parkwood
records?

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
yeah, that's.
That's beyonce's personal oh,that's her.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
P, that's her.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Does she have any artists underthat?

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
I think it was just Chloe and Hailey.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Oh, that's it.
I do remember them having that,having that connection with
Beyonce.
That's interesting.
Okay, and that's under ColumbiaRecords.
The more you know the song wasproduced by Omen Majid.
Is it Majid Jordan?
Is that how you say his name?
yeah, magic jordan or magicjordan magic, jordan key wayne
and 40 boy.

(01:34:30):
That's a stack lineup for onesong, good lord.
But I mean, I'm assuming the 40, the 40 joint, came with drake.
I'm pretty sure, pretty sure,anything that has drake's name
on it probably has 40's name onit.
The music video has a lot ofsymbolism in it.
It's directed by Pierre oh, Idon't know how to say his last
name, so I apologize, pierre,I'm going to try Debouchier.

(01:34:54):
Debouchier Sounds French,sounds French Debouchier
Debouchier.
Do you know who that is?
No, you don't know who that is.
No, you don't know who that is.
Pierre Deboucher, that's whoI'm going to go with.
Deboucher, probably.
Apparently he also directed thevideo for Ghost.

(01:35:16):
There's a distinct parallelimagery of the two works of art
and apparently he got motivationfrom the.
Apparently he got motivationfrom the.
Apparently he got motivationfrom the mikey michelangelo uh,
michelangelo work of the lovers,which was intended by the
director.
Oh, let's see.

(01:35:38):
But yeah, apparently there's alot of symbolism in the um, in
the music video, with her on thebeach and drake in his own
little, own little area of.
Apparently it was somethingalong the lines of.
Drake felt lonely, I don't know, even though he was in a
relationship, he felt like hewas alone, so that's why he was
in the area by himself andthere's some other shit.

(01:35:58):
Who was he in a relationship atthe time?
That was 2013.
Honestly, drake was reallylow-key about all his
relationships.
I didn't know about the scissorthing until he said it on the
Mr Right Now situation.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
He may have been with that girl.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
No, he wouldn't have been with that girl, he wouldn't
have been with his baby mamayet.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
When did work come out?

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
Look that up, Tanaka, Look that up Off the top of my
head.
I want to say around that time.
I want to say around 2013, 2014.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Then you would have been in a relationship with
Rihanna In 2013?
That's when they were like Workcame out in 2016.
Oh damn, okay, so it wasn't,then I don't know who he was in
a relationship at that time.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Well, see, if you can find that information um the
song, the song certified in twodifferent countries.
The song went gold in canadaand platinum in america and it's
charted in france, the uk,canada and america.
Um question have y'all heardthis song before?
Okay, have you heard this songbefore tanaka?

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
oh, what song is this ?

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
mine by beyonce drake .
I've been explaining it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
The whole time.
Nah, I'm not gonna lie, Imissed the title, I missed the
title I missed the title, bro.
I'm sorry, I'm gonna just keepgoing.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Anyway, I heard the song when the song came out,
because my mom had the album andshe would play it and I would
either hear it in passing or beriding in her car and the song
caught my ear because I thoughtit was a dope song and I was a
big fan of drake.
I was at the time I was djingand working at the boys and
girls club, um and uh, yeah, oh.

(01:37:48):
So this is the criticsreception.
Mine was generally a wellreceived was well received by
critics, though the opinion wasvaried on certain aspects.
On the good side, many criticspraised the song production.
The blend of r&b trap elementsand african beats was seen as
innovative.
The beyonce vocals performancewas widely commended and

(01:38:09):
appreciated by the song's honestportrayal of the relationship
struggles, particularly theexploration of the insecurities
and doubt.
Beyonce's willingness to revealher vulnerabilities was seen as
refreshing and the doubts andthe doubts of others.
Drake's contribution was alsopraised with many feelings.

(01:38:31):
His verse added depth andpercent and oh and perspective
to the song's narrative.
On the not so good side, thecritics found the lyrics to be
somewhat fragmented and lackingclear narrative.
While the emotional tone wasconveyed effectively, some felt
the storytelling could have beenstronger.

(01:38:52):
The song structure, which islargely chorus free, was a point
of connection for some.
While some appreciated theunconventional approach, others
felt the lack of traditionalchoruses made the song less
memorable.
Overall, mine was considered astrong track of Beyonce's
self-title, which had some minorcriticisms, but the song was

(01:39:17):
largely seen as a creative andemotionally resonant piece of
work resonant piece of work.
So, ladies and gentlemen, ifyou want to hear one of
beyonce's stronger tracks on onher later side of her career, I
would highly recommend youlisten to drake's and beyonce's
song.
Um mine, and that is dj turnipsong of the day and we're about
to go to the album a day.

(01:39:37):
And I'm not going to payattention to what tinaka said
because he didn't finna go get afinna go get a water or
something.

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
But yeah, that's on fire.
Oh, shut up.
That's on fire.
That's on fire.
Nah, that's crazy.
That was actually one of myfavorite songs off that album.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Mine yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:59):
Cause um what's it called.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Oh yeah, there was one more thing I want to add
okay, go ahead and go ahead andadd it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Yeah, it's not like tanaka's gonna pay attention
anyway last thing, before we getto album of the day.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
So the another thing I wanted to add was that, um, I
did fuck with the song.
The only issue I had with thesong because when the song came
out, this is when I started toget into um, the skate world.
But if you listen to the song,there's a part of the song came
out.
This is when I started to getinto the skate world.
But if you listen to the song,there's a part of the song where
it goes halftime and not it'slike, instead of doing this, it
goes.
And I was kind of like, damn, Iwant to play this song, but I

(01:40:39):
feel like that part would fuckup the skaters, type shit.
So I went to once Virtual DJgot stems and stuff, I was like,
wow, I fuck up the skaters,type shit.
So I went to um once.
Once virtual DJ got stems andstuff, I was like, wow, I could
really do something with thissong now.
And so, like I started, like Istarted, I started playing with
like the beats and stuff.
Yeah, finally able to play thesong, and I actually have a

(01:41:00):
remix of the song on bandcamp.
So, ladies and gentlemen, ifyou want to support.
Go check out Bandcamp and listento the DJ Turner remix and all
that how's the joint go?
This one's for the bad yeah,this one's for the good girls,
yeah yeah, nah that that jointwas one of my favorites off the
album.

(01:41:21):
It's possible and also it'spossible he could have been on
um dating tyra banks at the time2013 I don't know, I feel like
drake just got ndas galore Iain't gonna lie and I feel like
he just doesn't.
Yeah, he keep that shit on thelow, like on the low low, which

(01:41:42):
I'm like a respect.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
I don't I don't like my business all out there like
that, this whole kendrick joint,you know like I feel like I
feel like them folk even ifsomething happened, they not
gonna say nothing, because theydone, already signed that
contract which is interestingthat you say that, because that
actually puts it in perspective.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
Um sisa had a.
Um sisa had a, a little I thinklike it was her Kiki Palmer and
somebody else I think it wasIssa Rae maybe and they were
like at like a round tableeating like, I guess, hot
chicken or something like that,and I guess the thing was they
either had to answer thequestion or they had to eat the
hot chicken and apparently thechicken was really hot.

(01:42:21):
Oh you talking about hot ones.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
No, I don't think it was hot ones oh, isn't hot ones
like an interview type thingwell, they do an interview, but
they also gotta eat the like.
They ask questions, yeah, butthat's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
It wasn't like an interviewer, it was just sisa
kiki palmer and I think, isa ray, I think that's her name I
might have to check that out.
Yeah, she was like kiki palmerwas like is drake a good kisser?
And she was like, like, whywould you go?
How would you?
And so she was like give me thechicken give me this chicken.

Speaker 3 (01:42:50):
Yeah, give me the chicken man yeah, but I hate it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
But yeah, I'm finna, go get a water for real.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
I'll be back all album of the day.
Album of the day we're gonna gowith summer walker over it.

(01:43:41):
Um, yeah, man, you know, I feellike I feel like r&b was, r&b
has been kind of in a weirdplace this whole time.
You heard me, and so the factthat 2019, summer walker, you
know, uh, started creating abuzz out of her you know what I

(01:44:04):
mean, and I don't know.
I feel like I discovered herand everybody's like who's this
girl?
Like she, just she tatted upsinging, you know, with her
little guitar and all that.
You heard me.
And then she, finally, you know, she had her first project,
which, you know, created a bigbuzz.

(01:44:25):
And then, when the album came,I feel like, you know, everybody
was waiting on it.
Yeah, definitely, and I couldrespect her artistry because I
was like, you know, it just feltvery natural.
Like her music, and so, eventhough I can't personally, as a

(01:44:48):
guy, necessarily maybe relate toall that she's speaking about,
all the girls I can appreciatethe perspective that she gives
to the women you did because Iclearly you know they rocking
with her heavy you know theylove summer walker love summer
walk.
Got to love the toxicity out ofthis, but yeah, this album had

(01:45:09):
Body playing games come through,yeah, and then even some.
Oh, of course, girls Need Love.
The remix with Drake.
I think that was a bonus track,though.
The remix with Drake.
I think that was a bonus track,though, but yeah, and just the
us being skating ring DJs.

(01:45:30):
We obviously have gotten a lotof requests for even album cuts
off of this project, you know,such as tonight.
Just might I think even I'llkill you.
I feel like we've gotten umrequests for so, but as a whole,

(01:45:50):
I mean, I think it was just asolid r&b project, you know, and
um.
Clearly she knows herdemographic and and clearly she
knows how to write.
You know good songs that folksis able to relate to, you know,
um.
So yeah, I salute summer walker.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Um, just wanted to give her some shine um, she
actually showed up to bailoutmonday, so right it's definitely
some.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
She would some walker right, and you know I I respect
the uh paying homage with theAlbum cover.
It was.
What movie is that?
Dang it.
Why am I not Blanking on theMovie Summer Walker over it?

(01:46:43):
What is the cover paying homageto?

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
I didn't know it was paying homage to anything, oh
for real what?
Was it paying homage to?

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
I thought it was paying homage to something.
Is it Baby Boy when he's on thephone?

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
with that.
She's in the pink.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
Yeah, he's talking to the.
Yeah, this one yeah, I didn'tknow that I was paying homage to
anything yeah, he's talking tothe, uh like when he's on the
phone with the ratchet chick andshe's oh damn I gotta find it
friday, that's friday is itfriday?

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
maybe it's friday, and then the guy is laying in
the background and nobodynoticed it until like now.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
Exactly, yeah, yeah, I think.
So I'm not gonna cap Go aheadand get the.
But yeah, london on the track,you know, obviously was A huge
influence on the album.
He produced pretty much thewhole project, pretty much the
whole thing.
They was involved in arelationship which clearly a lot

(01:47:52):
of these songs were about him.
But yeah, og Parker, yeah, alot of very talented individuals
, um got involved on thisproject and um, so, yeah, aside
from the singles I think theyjust threw on through as a whole
project, um, you know, top tobottom is pretty solid.

(01:48:15):
So if you want some r&b for allmy women that listen to R&B and
appreciate nice and slow yeah,you know, toxic, I mean, I don't
know.
I feel like it's justperspectives on relationships
and different situations, and Ican always appreciate seeing

(01:48:37):
different sides because, as youknow, us guys we think a little
differently.
We view things a littledifferently when it comes to
relationships.
So hearing a woman'sperspective and also the fact
that she can sing well, you know, I can appreciate it.

(01:48:59):
One flick.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
Am I going to give him for not?
Oh, I didn't know he wasdrinking.
You drinking too?
Okay, I'll give you a shot.

Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
Nah, just give me a green cup, or yeah, just give me
one of them cups If you gotthem.
But yeah, let me see here.
But yeah, so that's my album ofthe day.
Man, summer Walker Over it,that was her.
I believe it was her debutalbum, cause I think the last

(01:49:35):
day of summer, I think that wasjust like an EP or mixtape Type
of deal.
So that album, yeah, last dayof summer type of deal.
That album, yeah, last Day ofSummer, I think that was a
mixtape or EP project Last Dayof Summer.
That was like an EP mixtapealbum, right.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
Last Day of Summer Summer.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Walker, her first project.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
See, I'm not gonna lie.
I didn't get into summer walkeruntil uh over it till that
album.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
Okay, I mean, I knew about playing games.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
Yeah, I knew about playing games and, uh, girls
need love, but I didn't mix tape.

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
I didn't mix tape mix tape yeah so, but yep, summer
walker over, go and check it out, man.
Yeah, good R&B from the newgeneration man.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
Did you y'all ask the question I usually ask?

Speaker 3 (01:50:35):
Oh no.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
So yeah, have you heard all of her projects?

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
I believe I have so where's over it?
I want to say it's either oneor two for me, I think out of
our catalog yeah, I like thatalbum.

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
I really do.
What would be a contention for?

Speaker 3 (01:51:04):
because I feel like the first project, the mixtape I
do think had some that's thelast day of summer y'all was
talking about yeah, cause, okay,yeah, cause the last day of
summer had some real like almostneo soul.

(01:51:28):
You know I'm saying not onlybecause you know we know summer
can do like mainstream r&b stuff, but uh, there was some there's
some records on that firstproject that was like, um, yeah,
just had some real smooth.
You know what I mean and Icould appreciate that because
I'm like you know, I just feltR&B was already kind of

(01:51:51):
struggling.
You know, these 2010s have justreally been interesting.
Yeah, it's completely fucked up.

Speaker 2 (01:52:00):
Yeah, so 2010s.

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I feel like mid-2010s iswhen it kind of got a little
fuzzy, but but yeah, I canappreciate you know.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
I always say early yeah, that's when I started
saying yeah R&B.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
I just feel after really I feel like after Trey
Songz's Trigger album dropped,like that's when to me me at
least that was kind of theturning point, you know.
But um, yeah, some, walk overit.
It was refreshing just to hearthe um sound Right, well, cool,

(01:52:38):
um, let me see.
Do we have a special guest?
Uh, icy, oh, we got a specialguest.
Icy Queens, would you like tosay hello To the podcast?
Why would you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
You gonna talk or you gonna cough what we doing, so
Icy Gay.

Speaker 3 (01:52:59):
What yeah, we got, we got.
Go ahead and introduce yourself, man.
The people can't see you.
So you know, go ahead andintroduce yourself, man.
The people can't see you.

Speaker 4 (01:53:06):
So you know, go ahead and um yeah, you are so
childish, that's very childish.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
Oh, that's Tiana, Hi Tiana.
What's up?

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
Yeah, so all right.
Since she doesn't want tointroduce herself, icy Queen's
uh, princess Tiana has checkedinto the building.
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
I can just always tell by the voice Tiana sounds
like the mama, lex sounds likethe child, really so.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
but yeah, icy Queen Tiana, is there anything you
would like to share to the goodpeople on our podcast?
So Icy Gang go follow us onInstagram.

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
Type shit.

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
Do you want to say y'all Instagram at?

Speaker 4 (01:53:52):
Yeah, hey, I'm at work.
It's Icy.
Underscore Queens with a Z-S-T.

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
And where are you representing Tanago?
Where?
Are you representing.

Speaker 1 (01:54:08):
Tanago, where you representing from, I went 12
years old, trapping my own mama.
You said what about a mama?
What you saying what.
She just want me to talk shit.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
I know right, she, just she just sitting herself,
shit.
I know right, she just she justsitting herself up.
Them May Geminis.

Speaker 1 (01:54:31):
M for maniac.
We the best.
Stand on that.
I ain't even gonna argue withyou.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
But yeah, where you representing ma'am.

Speaker 1 (01:54:39):
Bro, this answer Alabama.

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
Alright, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
Roll Tide.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
Look, man.
And so yeah, salute to the IcyQueens man.
They be holding it down forAlabama.
You dig, they know how to dothat.
Trail ride, country linedancing.
If you ain't know, so tap inwith them folk.
They be out there stepping itsome crazy and got all the

(01:55:12):
routines out there with slowwalk, slow set, you dig.
So tap in with them folk.
You already know what's going.
Sexy, desi, unthinkable Lexi,co, suzy, yim.
So yeah, anything else you'dlike to add?

Speaker 1 (01:55:29):
Well, it sounds like she's trying to run away.
It sounds like she wants you tostop talking.

Speaker 3 (01:55:32):
I was never supposed to be talking on this podcast.
Okay, my fault, all right.
Well, yeah, little cameo rightthere.
All right then.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
I hope the mic picked that up.

Speaker 3 (01:55:43):
Yeah, hopefully it picked it up.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
Do I know?
No, you don't know Tiana.
Yeah, you don't know Tiana.
Yeah 20, you don't be around,alright.

Speaker 3 (01:55:56):
Big 2-0.

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
As y'all are pouring up, we're going to get into we
got one more, yeah, we got onemore.
And then we're gonna.
Well, we go, yeah, we got onemore.
Then we're gonna get into 20'stopic.
We got a dj talk um oh, myfault.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
I'm over here jumping the gun oh, y'all good no, go
ahead, go ahead, dj talk.

Speaker 4 (01:56:15):
So 20, all right I know it's been a goddamn.
Yeah, I was about to say thisman trying to have me so 20.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
All right, I know it's been a goddamn.

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
Yeah, I was about to say this man trying to have me
leaning out there.
Man, yeah, like you want tobail out Monday?

Speaker 4 (01:56:32):
You know what I'm saying Whoa, whoa, whoa, chill
out Chill out, turn up, chillout.

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
Don't get crazy out here Talking about bail out
Monday, young'un, that manleaning?
I would not, bro, that man wasleaning, I was just cooling, bro
Boy.
You got to say that let's go,corey, all right.
So Just cooling like four icecubes and a styrofoam cup.
You dig what I'm saying Exactly.
Leaning like you too.

Speaker 1 (01:56:53):
But anyway, so 20.
So what we got is these old DJTalk questions and, just like
the last time, we're just gonnahave you answer them.
We got five of them, okay, solet's start with number one.
So we're gonna get into this djtalk tonight.
I got a question for you.
What's?

Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
that now with it.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
I kind of figure what side you, what side you're on,
but there are two type of djs inthis world, right, the djs that
actually you know have themixing and transitions and all
that stuff.
And then there are djs thatkind of just kind of just play
for the crowd per se and don'treally do any mixing or

(01:57:33):
transition and just kind of likehost.
They're kind of like, they kindof just host, they kind of just
like no mixing, just droppingrecords.

Speaker 3 (01:57:42):
Yeah, like talking.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
Yeah, they're talking for a little bit and then
they'll like, they'll uh,they'll get the crowd's
attention.
And you know, and it's likefrom back in blood to before I
let go.
So 20, I like like I telltanaka, I kind of figure what
side you're on, but how do youfeel about those DJs that don't

(01:58:06):
necessarily do the mixing andtransitioning.
They just kind of host and dropsongs from tempos to tempos
they just dropping that ish manplaying all the hits playing all
the hits exactly going from.
Young Dolph Preach to Not LikeUs no care for BPM whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (01:58:25):
Your thoughts, sir?

Speaker 2 (01:58:27):
yeah, man, I mean, there's an art to you, know I
mean if it like it works forthem.
You know, for some of them theygot there doing that, so it
works for them.
Me personally, um, I like, uh,I like you people, I like DJs
who are able to mix and canactually carry the party through

(01:58:48):
without having to break the youknow, the energy of you know,
or the flow.
You know you're supposed to betelling the story.
That's kind of how I see it,you know, because us, as DJs,
we're artists as well.
So I mean it's like going fromchapter one to chapter five Us,
as DJs, we're artists as wellit's like going from chapter one
to chapter five, then fromchapter five to chapter three.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
We tend to like to take you on a journey.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
Yeah, definitely take you on a journey.

Speaker 3 (01:59:22):
We want the ride to be smooth, not just bumper cars
out here.

Speaker 1 (01:59:26):
Right, right, like when 20 first pulled into
Cedarview for the first time.
Remember that Dude Killed his,destroyed my O2 sensor.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
That joint said dude, dude, dude, dude.
I said whoa Destroyed the O2sensor.

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
Oh, that joint was so funny.
All right.
Question number two so this isgoing to be an interesting DJ
talk, because this isn't reallylike a question and this isn't
really like an etiquette, butthis one goes out to all the
younger DJs.
All the younger DJs coming upin the DJ game or hell, even if

(02:00:08):
you feel like you want to be aDJ this goes for anybody.
That's like I said, young DJ,or even think about, even if
there's a thought in your mindthat you want to become a DJ.
What I recommend that you do,before you do anything else, is
make sure that you soak up themusic that you that is coming

(02:00:32):
out now, anything that's comingout now, or hell, even something
that you could think of thatcame out and you just like it,
throw it in a playlist.
All right, 20.
So here's the situation, right?
So, um, my little tidbit wasthat, um, younger djs should, uh

(02:00:56):
, soak up all the music thatcomes out.
You don't have to even per selike play it at that moment, but
just soaking up all the musicthat came out in your generation
.
So, once you guys are once,once they're older, they, they
have that music that they can goback to and be like oh shit, it

(02:01:16):
may have not have charted, andso it may have.
It may have disappeared fromthe internet, so so it might not
be there forever.
What are your thoughts?
What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2 (02:01:27):
Definitely you want to make sure your library you
don't know who like, you don'tknow what situation you're ever
going to come across, you don'tknow who like where that song
will come in handy, like there,you know, back in my A-Day you
know what I mean there was apopular us being skating rink

(02:01:49):
DJs.
You know what I mean?
Well, djs in its purest form,but skating rinks we do a lot of
those.
A little bit more specific, youknow this is back when I would
just search up different houseremixes, just different songs,
and you know I would just searchup different house remixes,

(02:02:09):
just different songs.
And one of those songs that Ibecame famous for no one else
had and that's just simply offof, and that was a song that was
very popular and very known.
It was a signature.
People came up to me and theywould be upset when I didn't,
Because I would end the sessionwith that song and they would be

(02:02:32):
upset when I didn't end thesession with that song.
So that just goes to show likeyou know what I mean, you never
know like what song that where,when it, when that song would be
an impact to people.
So definitely soak up as muchmusic as you can I don't know
what to not laugh.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
What just, yeah, what just did?
I did something happen where mycomputer is that I did like
missed it.
What just happened?

Speaker 3 (02:02:59):
I just had a funny thought in my mind, you like
share the class I don't knowokay, sure well, all right, so
wait, the signature song was.
She says she wants some you arepetty as hell oh, you are petty
as hell, oh, you are petty.

Speaker 4 (02:03:20):
You are pettier than I thought bro, I thought you
were about to say detroit girllike no, that's great bro,
that's petty that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:03:28):
Yeah, that's petty, that's pretty petty.
You asked him what I wasthinking.
That's the thought that poppedin my mind and that's my bad I,
I will never ask that ever again.

Speaker 1 (02:03:37):
I'm sorry, I was trying to move on in my defense
too, but I mean, I guess anyway,that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:03:42):
Yeah, that's crazy dog but, but yeah, no, it's a no
, it's a further on thatquestion, though.
It's like we, as djs, werehistorians.
You know I'm saying so likesometimes, as you said, turn up,
the music gets erased from theinternet, and it's like only the
people that was there at thetime had the music.
You know, I'm saying like.

(02:04:02):
So really, we're like, um, like, we document periods of music
in different time periods.

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
That gets erased from the internet right, because we
live in the internet, internetinternet based world and they
feel like I feel like certainpeople think that if it's not on
the internet, it didn't happen,and you know very much so yeah,
anyway, number three.
So, tanaka, this goes back tothe um, kind of goes back to the

(02:04:35):
dj unk situation.
Um, but you know, quickscenario.
You're the DJ.
The guy comes up to you hey,insert name here.
Artist is here, he said he'llperform one song.
The song is up to you.
What song are you choosing?
Just give you some names ofsome people and just tell me

(02:04:58):
what song are you choosing forthem to that they're performing.
If you want to give a, why youcan, if not, whatever, all right
.
So, tony, what's about tohappen is I thought of two
artists, tanaka has thought oftwo artists and we're giving you

(02:05:19):
that scenario.
So you're djing at hell.
Then you gotta be a club.
It could be wherever.
Whatever scenario you want tocome up with, the promoter or
somebody comes up to you and islike hey, this artist is in the
building and he said he willperform one song and the song is
to your choice.
What song are you choosing,tanaka?

Speaker 3 (02:05:40):
Malik.
So we're gonna name the artistand you're gonna tell us the
song that you're gonna play forthem To perform Tanaka, i'ma let
you.
So we're gonna name the artistsand you're gonna tell us the
song that you're gonna play forthem.
Okay To perform.

Speaker 1 (02:05:47):
You have.
Tanaka has two.
I have two.
I'ma let Tanaka start off, sahathe Prince.
Dj 20 Saha.
The so Saha.
The Prince is here.
He said that he would perform.
He said he'd perform one song,but he said he said he really
didn.
Is here.
He said that he would perform.
He said he'd perform one song,but he said he really didn't

(02:06:08):
care.
He said he's going to leave itup to you.
What song is he going to lethim perform?

Speaker 2 (02:06:14):
Saha the Prince, saha the Prince I'd probably.
Just random pick.

Speaker 1 (02:06:26):
I probably like just random pick do you have any Sire
of the Prince songs?
It's a better question.

Speaker 2 (02:06:34):
A better question is name a Sire of the Prince song
yeah, I don't know Sire of thePrince, like that, but if he was
there in the building okay, sothat's another scenario.

Speaker 3 (02:06:46):
So you don't know.
So you said you were unfamiliarwith his music.
How are you going to go about?
Yeah, what?

Speaker 1 (02:06:52):
do you do in that situation?
You don't have any of his music, you don't know him.
What's your next thing?
I mean, what's your next move?

Speaker 2 (02:07:00):
Find a song.
Probably what I would do islike how I told you how I um how
I do my homework go to youtube,um or spot by the way, this is
in the middle of a gig, by theway, so like this okay, okay,
okay, for sure, yeah go toyoutube or, um, you know,
spotify or apple music,whichever Apple Music, whichever

(02:07:21):
, whichever platform.
Find out which one has the mostengagement, the most traffic,
and choose that one.

Speaker 1 (02:07:32):
You know it's crazy, shout out to you.
I actually meant to give you aroses for that, but I kind of
forgot what your number was.
I remember you said that you dothis thing where you, if a song
has a certain, certain amountof views, that's when you know
you're gonna pick that song.
I forgot what number you saidit was, though it was.

(02:07:52):
It was definitely a youtubesituation, though, but you were
saying that yeah, youtubeanything, anything like in the
triple digits.

Speaker 2 (02:07:59):
I know that that's so in the honey case.

Speaker 1 (02:08:01):
It's a honey k up.
No, no, no, he's talking amillion, hundred million.
Okay, I know that I'm sayingyou 100Ks, so 100K up.

Speaker 3 (02:08:04):
No, no, no, no, no, no.
He's talking a million, 100million.
I know that.

Speaker 1 (02:08:06):
I'm saying you got to be specific.

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
I don't know, yeah, 100 million, 100 million or
sometimes it doesn't even haveto be 100 million, but you just
know, there's just a numberwhere you're just like, okay,
people know this song and 100million is a safe one, um,

(02:08:28):
anything close to that.
So like I'd say anything above50 million, like that's a safe
bet that people know it sowhat's the lowest that I would
play?

Speaker 1 (02:08:34):
that you would, that you would be like that you would
be definite to still be like,yeah, I'm gonna play this.
This may be this low, but I'mgonna still play it okay.

Speaker 2 (02:08:41):
So now, like that's where, that's where the homework
comes into right.
So now, if I'm, if I'm, if I'mgiven and let's take, for
example, an Atlanta artist,because we're in Atlanta- I'm
saying so high.
So let me say, it comes in andyou're like, if my what I like,
what I really like, is two tofive million, I really want

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there to be some type of trafficor engagement.
Two to five million um, that'sprobably where I know I'll play
it.
Um, anything below that, it'sit's a bit sketchy okay.

Speaker 1 (02:09:19):
So let's just, let's just throw out a quick
hypothetical um and this is.

Speaker 3 (02:09:23):
I mean.
I know that you do this for allmusic, but this was when you
was looking up like Afrobeatrecords, right?

Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
No, this was anything .
Anything else I want to say atthe time you were doing like
Latin when I was talking to you.
Latin for sure.
I knew it was a popular songwhen it started.
That's the triple digits Plus.
When I started seeing that B Isaid, yeah, this is one of those
songs that like this is biggerthan America.

Speaker 3 (02:09:52):
What was it Start seeing?

Speaker 2 (02:09:56):
Oh, B Billions my bad On YouTube.
That's when I knew that song isa hit internationally, Right.
I feel that that song is a hitinternationally Right.

Speaker 1 (02:10:09):
I feel that.
So let's go back to Saha.
So hypothetically, saha is onlytouching a million, so are you
just picking the song that hasthe most views?

Speaker 2 (02:10:19):
That's probably where I would lean.
I would pick that one Becausethat one has the most engagement
.
That's probably his biggest hit.
That's probably his most famoussong so what song are we
playing?

Speaker 1 (02:10:31):
turn up so, and that's where it gets sketchy.
You would just have to makesure that the thing about that
you could show the 20, which one?
so so.
So that's the thing, though.
Well, that's the thing, though.
The thing about that is thatone of his biggest songs it's
not his biggest song, but one ofhis biggest songs is the
Morning.

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But if you choose the Morning,that means you actually have to
listen and he's on the lastverse, or he's in the middle to
last verse.
There's five people on the songand you're like, oh shit, damn,

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I don't really know this songlike that.
So that's another thing to takeinto context.

Speaker 2 (02:11:19):
But if I'm in the middle of a gig and that's
happening, I would I woulddefinitely try to do my best
right to make sure he is um,like it's him and it's one of
his.

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
You know bigger, better songs, right oh, okay, I
guess I'm doing one of mine,since you walked away um hey 20.
So we're um hey.
So, uh, kelvin, kelvin, momohas just walked in the building
um he said he'll do one song andhe said he's leaving it up to

(02:11:57):
you you said kelvin momo.

Speaker 2 (02:12:01):
Yeah, you said Kelvin Momo.
Yeah, all right, so let's putthis into play.

Speaker 1 (02:12:08):
Let's put this into context yeah, music going, djing
yeah, he said he'll do any song.

Speaker 2 (02:12:27):
All right, alright.
so if I look up, so I'm assumingthis is another person you
don't know no, I don't knowCalvin Momo, but if we look up
Calvin Momo on YouTube, alright,299k subscribers.

(02:12:47):
Okay, why am I only seeingalbums?
Okay, so one of his songs has10 million views.
I'll look at that one and I'llbe like, okay, that's a safe,
that's a safe bet.
2.7, huh, I could get away withthe 7.5.
So right now, as I'm lookingthrough it, 10 million is the

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one that 10 million is thenumber to beat.
10 million would be the song Iwould play.

Speaker 1 (02:13:18):
And that song is Song is song is oh, he has a 9.5 on

(02:13:56):
here, but two million.
I might add this to my playlist, okay, oh, yeah, have to add
that to my African.
That's that MO Piano?
That's MO Piano, right, is thatMO Piano?

Speaker 2 (02:14:10):
Yeah, you can consider that.

Speaker 1 (02:14:14):
Alright Tanaka Next artist.

Speaker 3 (02:14:21):
We got Summer Walker in the button what up.

Speaker 2 (02:14:25):
Alright, alright.
So this one, this one'sactually a hard one For me, um
Cause.
It would either be Come Through, which Is probably my favorite
song On the On the project, orgirls need love.

Speaker 1 (02:14:53):
I was straight away from me personally.
I was straight away from anysongs that have features if
they're just me personally, notsaying it's wrong or not.
Um, and was actuallyinteresting, tanaka, that you
picked summer walker.
Is that, um, summer walker?
Well, I don't know if you werethere for when that happened,
but t smooth, shout out t smooth.
He had brought summer walker tobail out monday.

Speaker 2 (02:15:13):
Yeah I remember seeing and it was fun.

Speaker 1 (02:15:15):
And it was funny because, like she's, like like
that scenario sounds wildbecause, bro, she doesn't even
like hearing her music.
Like she has a high level.
She has high level of anxiety.
Like she does not like hearingher music that's not.

Speaker 2 (02:15:32):
That's not a first.

Speaker 1 (02:15:33):
I've heard that a lot oh yeah, no, it does, but like
she's like, so no, just to putin perspective, like she doesn't
even like here, so let aloneperform.
It sounds crazy to me.

Speaker 2 (02:15:43):
That's just yeah, yeah, that's, that's a crazy
content.

Speaker 1 (02:15:45):
That's crazy.
But um, yeah, no, but anyway,um, all right.
So last one uh, hey, 20, so, um, so you see this big crowd over
here.
Apparently, in the middle ofall that, um, I was just told
that bad bunny is here.
So, um, he said that he wouldpossibly do one song.

(02:16:08):
Oh, and he's.
I guess he doesn't really carebecause he's not really getting
paid for it and he's gonna leaveit up to you.
He said he may just do a verseor something.
What?

Speaker 2 (02:16:16):
oh, verse mia.
That's the song that I want tohear from bad Bunny, and that's
just because I'm a Bad Bunny fan.
Well, I'm a yeah, I'm a BadBunny fan.
I like Bad Bunny and yeah, thatsong has a future with Drake.
But because he's only doing averse, or not?

Speaker 1 (02:16:38):
Right, right, I hear that.
All right, cool, that was fun.
All right, number four this isgoing to be the first time we've
done like a dj etiquette sincelike episode one right, so this
situation that happened that hashappened to many of us where a
customer will come up and belike hey, tanaka, can you either

(02:17:00):
play this, do this, can youplay this, do this Can you move?
this Something.
They're making an order andyou're like, nah, I don't want
to, I can't Something, somethingalong the lines of they cannot
do it and you're not going toget your order.
And they say this thing that Iknow irks a good 90%.

(02:17:24):
It irks a good 90%, it irks agood 90% of DJs, but DJ Other
Person does it.
I'm not DJ Other Person.
Tanaka, how does that make youfeel DJ 20,?
How does that make you feelj 20?

Speaker 2 (02:17:46):
how does that make you feel I'm not dj other person
?
Simple as that.
I'm not dj other person, sowho's that?
Who was that?

Speaker 1 (02:17:56):
um, that was actually abraham.

Speaker 2 (02:17:57):
I don't know if you remember abraham yeah, yeah, I
remember, I remember, yeah, itwas cool, shout, shout out
Abraham.

Speaker 1 (02:18:02):
He pulled up on me at Metro Diner yesterday.
Really, yeah, shout out Abraham.
Yeah, but no man, I ain't gonnalie that joint hurts my soul.

Speaker 2 (02:18:11):
Yeah, I'm not a DJ of the person.

Speaker 1 (02:18:14):
Plain and simple.

Speaker 2 (02:18:15):
Yeah, go to a DJ of the person's session.

Speaker 1 (02:18:19):
All right, boy, talk about it.
Yeah, all right, right, boytalk about yeah, all right,
number five.
So, tanaka, question your fans,customers or the people that
like come to your events or yoursets, or whatever the case may
be, when is the best time forthem to have conversation with
you about?
Like music, about music, Mm-hmm, so DJ20, when is a good time

(02:18:45):
for, uh, people to hit you upabout, like I don't know type of
music that they like or I don'tknow, like a song request they
may have that they may want youto?
They may know that you're gonnabe at a certain place and
they're like, hey, I'm gonna behere too.
Could you play blah blah?
For reasons I don, reasons Idon't know, or is it just better
for them to just be there andjust be like, hey, can you play

(02:19:07):
this?
No, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (02:19:09):
No no, no, no no, I've gotten to a point where
eight times out of ten becausehere's the thing I've got to do
my homework on the song, whichincludes making sure that it's
clean.
Right.
If you hit me up at the and it'snot a main like at the event
and it's not a mainstream songthat I know I will have clean 10

(02:19:32):
times out of 10, I'm notplaying it.
But the best time to hit me upabout it and talk to me about it
is for you to hit me up maybe aday or two prior so I could do

(02:19:52):
some research and then I'll letyou know if I'm able to get that
music played and I don't mindtaking requests, but it's got to
make sense, and I got to be,you know, get it done.
shout out to the ys, shout outto the ys.

Speaker 1 (02:20:11):
I don't know what the fuck is going on right now, but
, um, all right.
Well, dj 20.
It is now.
Well, this is what we usuallycall open topic.
However, dj 20 is here, so it'scalled 20's Topics.
So, dj 20, the floor is yours.

Speaker 2 (02:20:29):
Alright, 20's Topics.
I don't know, tanaka, do youneed a refill Because?
This is going to be a fun.
This is going to be a fun, youknow.

Speaker 3 (02:20:42):
This man trying to have me out here slithered man.
This is going to be a fun, youknow.
This man trying to have me outhere slizzard man.

Speaker 2 (02:20:46):
This is going to be a fun hour.
Good lord, it's probably goingto be an hour for real, alright.
So, um, before I get into thecontroversial takes, you know
what I mean.
And um, so 20s Topics is realshort today, but it's going to
be a long.
No, it ain't.

Speaker 1 (02:21:06):
It's going to be 20s Topic.

Speaker 2 (02:21:09):
No, we got two.
I wanted to add one because meand my guy Frank, shout out
Frank.
We've been having thisdiscussion on what is pop music,
so I want to hear you guys'sopinion on what pop music is,

(02:21:31):
and then I'll tell you hisopinion on pop music oh, so
we're doing that right now.

Speaker 1 (02:21:36):
Yeah, what is pop music?
So, um, how would you like.

Speaker 2 (02:21:39):
Is it a category?
Is it stature?
What is it?

Speaker 1 (02:21:42):
so is see, that's the thing about pop music.
Pop music is interestingbecause it just really depends
on how you look at it.
Well, we think of pop music, wethink of I don't know, we think
of white people music thatisn't rock or country music.
That's what we think of popmusic.
However, if you really deepdive into pop music, pop is

(02:22:04):
short for popular and that's allpop is.
And that's why, when people saya rapper has gone pop, they're
saying that he's just got outthe mud and he's now in the
limelights.
And now his music is not justfor streets, it's for the
suburbs, it's for the countrybunkins, it's for the you know,
people in outer space, I don'tknow undersea, it's for

(02:22:27):
everybody, it's pop, it'spopular.

Speaker 2 (02:22:29):
So that's that's my two perceptions of pop music
okay, so would you um, just uh,so I can get a clear, a clear um
answer.
So it's not a.
Would you consider it a genreor stature?

Speaker 1 (02:22:47):
It just depends on how you look at it.
So I could see it could be both, because I could see somebody
saying, um, what's them niggasname chain smokers, I think, is
their name I could see thembeing like pop.
But at the same time I couldsee if somebody were to call

(02:23:09):
Glorilla's what you Know AboutMe pop as well, because that's a
song that has made it fromsuccessfully yeah, it
successfully crossed over fromjust the streets and the white
people want to hear it.
Or TGIF, that type of shit.

Speaker 2 (02:23:26):
I think it can be considered pop okay, um so okay,
final, final question threelittle birds by bob marley well,
oh, I don't know that song, I'mnot gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (02:23:42):
Oh, it's gonna be all right, all right, so would you
consider that pop?

Speaker 2 (02:23:45):
or would that just be considered reggae, because
everybody's heard that song?

Speaker 1 (02:23:49):
that's a very popular true, but has it been
successful financially?
It might be like a what?
What people call a streetclassic, and I don't, I don't
really.
Okay, well, hold on, let me seethree little birds by bob
marley and the roilers.
Let's see, uh yeah, this Icould say this is pop.

(02:24:14):
I could say I could put this upin pop okay um.
Technically I can so I mean andit also, and it also.
It also depends on what you meanby what is considered pop.
You learn Because it's gonegold in Brazil, gold in Denmark,
gold in Germany, platinum inItaly, five times platinum in

(02:24:36):
New Zealand, platinum in Spainand three times platinum in the
UK Sounds pretty successful tome.
Okay, Germany is charted inGermany, Spain and the UK as
well.
But yeah, I guess you can.
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (02:24:52):
Same question to you, Tanaka.

Speaker 3 (02:24:56):
I mean, my answer is Summa Eterna, because I get
there's artists that are likepop artists, so like the music
they make is geared towards,like that audience.
But then at the same time, ofcourse, we got like hip-hop

(02:25:18):
stuff that grew out the you knowout the streets, that then
turned pop because of how bigthe song became, to the point
that you know I'm saying thatvanilla over there eating it up.
yeah, so so for you it's more ofa stature and not any more of a
genre um, I mean, like I said,I feel like it's both, because I

(02:25:42):
I do feel like there's artiststhat are pop artists and they,
like that's the genre of musicthey make.
It's aimed towards making like.

Speaker 1 (02:25:51):
And also to piggyback off that I feel like there are
pop artists that aren'tsuccessful.
Yeah, so like it's.
I don't know, that's weird.
That's a weird like doubleentendre type shit.
Like, just because pop issupposed to be popular but you
make pop music and it ain'tsuccessful, so like that's,
that's a weird thing.
So it technically could be astature.
I could see it leaning moretowards a stature because there

(02:26:13):
could be a genre of hip-hop andthen there's pop and then
there's like the pop, hip-hop, Iguess, or hip-hop, right that
they call it.
Do they have?
Do they have a name for umreggae like, is there like a pop
?

Speaker 2 (02:26:25):
reggae.
It's just, it's just um.

Speaker 1 (02:26:30):
It's just reggae because dancehall, because
here's the thing, though so likeI know in I know in certain
like areas of music there arelike surface love, there's like
surface level stuff that likeonly us would know.
But it's only but it's becauseit's so pop but it's cliche
because it's pop.
It's like we know it, like withreggae or dancehall.
I would know murder she wrote,but for you that's, that's

(02:26:53):
literally what no, you struck anerve with that one, because
that was literally the song thatI was telling him.
I mean, and that's okay andthat's cool, but yeah, so like
with, but it's still dancehall.
Yes, it's dancehall, but it's,it's, that's cool, but yeah, so
like with, but it's stilldancehall.
Yeah, it's dancehall, but it'slike that's like the surface
level stuff, but it's I don'tokay.
But that's another thing too.
I don't know how, I don't knowhow successful that song was,
but I just know for me thatwould be.

(02:27:15):
I would think that would belike the surface level, and we
don't necessarily call it pop,but that's like the surface
level stuff which is thateverybody knows which is
basically pop like if you playmurder.
She wrote for white people.

Speaker 2 (02:27:26):
I feel like you could throw it in there with like
sorry, justin bieber, okay seenow, okay, now here's, here's,
um, I'm gonna, we're gonna drawa larger point because
essentially I do agree with um,his his overall messaging.
However, me personally, I dofeel like there is a distinction

(02:27:46):
, because I do feel like there'sa difference between pop like I
fit.
Me personally, I consider popas a genre of music more so than
a stature, right, because?
Okay, now let me ask you this,right, uh, super bass, what
would you consider that?
Um, hip-hop?

(02:28:06):
You would consider that hip-hop, hip-pop, hip-hop yeah, that's
the actual genre.

Speaker 1 (02:28:12):
That's what I was saying.
So, like it started out, itstarted out as well.
It started out as hip-hop, butit's our.
It's also a successful song too.
So I don't know.
It's, I don't know.
I guess pop has pop.
That's what's weird about themusic business.

Speaker 2 (02:28:29):
It's see, because like, honestly and truthfully,
like I would have said, okay,well, I wouldn't have added the
hip in front of pop, I wouldhave just said that that's pop,
but now when?
Because these were the twosongs that got debated with me
at least yesterday.
So there's Super Bass and thenthere's Moment for Life.

Speaker 1 (02:28:51):
What would you consider Moment for Life.
That's interesting, that's aninteresting perspective.

Speaker 2 (02:29:00):
Because the delivery on both songs it's the same
artist.
The delivery on both songs it'sthe same artist.
The delivery on both songs isdifferent I mean just the.

Speaker 1 (02:29:08):
But pop is also feeling too.
I don't know.
I feel like I feel like momentfor life kind of blurs.
Those lines of it could behip-hop, but at the same time
like you could slide that inwith uh, with uh like a justin
bie or something, because it'sjust the feel.
I feel like the feel of thesong is like, even though the

(02:29:30):
lyrics could be a little raunchyin comparison to Taylor Swift
or Megan Trainor, it's still thefeel of the song.
Yeah.
Okay, go ahead, my bad.

Speaker 2 (02:29:40):
Yeah, no, I mean Tanaka Asking about those two
songs.
What would you consider superbass?
And then, what would youconsider moment for life?

Speaker 3 (02:29:54):
I mean, if I'm being completely honest, I really
looked at that first album byNicki Minaj is mainly more like
pop than hip hop.
You know what I'm saying, ifI'm being honest.
So for those two records likehe feels like like, yeah, they
can pass as hip-hop, but I feellike they're more pop than
hip-hop in my opinion especiallyI'm saying I would think no,

(02:30:16):
super bass, and this is where Iprobably disagree with you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:30:20):
Super bass, I see, because the definition that I
was given when it came to pop,or that I always understood when
it came to pop, is a catchytune, right and um, to me like
every sorry, I'm sorry, I'msorry, I don't mean to cut you

(02:30:42):
off.

Speaker 1 (02:30:42):
Where, where did you get?
Where'd you get that from?
Who told you that that is acatchy?

Speaker 2 (02:30:46):
that was that, yeah that was in school when I um
music class or whatever, andwhat I saw on um what we looked
up on google okay so when Ilooked it up, when I saw catchy
tune, I was like, yeah, that'spop, the catchy tune like that's
for me when I consider a genreof music.
That's how I separate the two,right so, moment for life and

(02:31:11):
super bass.
The delivery is different butit's given by the same artist.
So I'll ask you guys anotherone right so, break of dawn and
thriller.
What would you consider thosetwo?
Because those two are alsoanother point of debate.

Speaker 1 (02:31:30):
Well, break of Dawn is definitely R&B, because, well
, it's R&B.
But it also wasn't.
That's my point, but that's,but that's, I mean, but even
though Michael is the king ofpop, but but at the same time
you kind of I don't know You'rekind of like putting like
artists in the same time.
I don't know, y'all kind ofputting artists in one genre.
You know more.

Speaker 2 (02:31:47):
No, I'm not saying.
I'm not putting him in a genre.
All I'm saying is one artistcan make two genres of music.
Yeah, and I consider pop to bea different genre of music.

Speaker 1 (02:32:00):
Yeah, I mean, you could say that, yeah, I would
say that, but the um, you kindof explained it.

Speaker 2 (02:32:06):
Your definition it was more so of like a stature.
So pretty much, if it makes itto a certain level, to the point
where people in china aresinging the song, then it's now
considered pop.

Speaker 1 (02:32:19):
It's successfully crossed over I mean not now
consider pop.
It's still considered what itwhat it started as, but it's,
it's now.
It's now in that level of popmusic.
That's, that's just how I, justhow I see it, I mean tamaka
yeah, I mean, that's that's whatI feel like.

Speaker 3 (02:32:39):
You know, because if I think about like, like drop it
, like it's hot, I consider thata hip hop song.
But it became so popular thatyou could consider that pop
music.
But I still consider that a hiphop song.
When I listen to something likeSuper Bass, I don't necessarily

(02:33:02):
consider that really a hip-hopsong, like yeah, she's rapping,
but I consider it more of a popsong.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Because, it's catchy.
So yeah, I don't know if thatanswers your question.
No, no, it does, it's a catchytune.

Speaker 2 (02:33:21):
That was my main thing, but to him it's more so
like a stature.
So now that brings it to youknow my next point, or segue.
So not like us all right would?
Would we consider that pop,being that it just got performed

(02:33:41):
on the biggest stage and noweverybody knows that song?

Speaker 1 (02:33:44):
I mean, that's not why everybody knows that song.
But no, I mean, yeah, that'sdefinitely pop you consider that
pop?
I mean it's hip-hop, definitely, bro, it's rap beef, it's beef
like that's, that's some hip-hopshit.
But yeah, it's pop, becauseeverybody, I feel like they're
okay.
So I'll say this I feel likePop and I hope this makes sense

(02:34:06):
before I put this on fuckingevery platform.
But I feel like Pop, there'slike different doors of Pop,
like it's like okay, you get inbecause you're just already Pop,
you're just off the rip, you'rePop.
Some people have to work to getto that other door.

Speaker 2 (02:34:31):
And that was the biggest point of that.
That whole thing was like hewas pretty much saying that is
racism.
Right, when it comes to, whenit comes to pop, because, like,
even when, because the onlything that's different is that
because they're a white person,they would be considered pop
versus a black person.
There's something else, thereare B or their hip hop, or
there's something else or anyother genre.

(02:34:51):
Like Koreans, it's consideredK-pop versus you know them, just
being regular pop pop music.

Speaker 1 (02:35:02):
I mean maybe, possibly, but I mean even I
don't know because okay.
So I mean, if we're bringing upthe race thing, do we?
Do?

Speaker 2 (02:35:09):
we call shibuzi r&b no, we call them country, and
then we would give them pop butI feel like it's because it's a.

Speaker 1 (02:35:16):
I mean it's a feel like the feel of the music
doesn't feel like r&b, I feellike he's country music.

Speaker 2 (02:35:23):
No, that's what I said.
He's country.

Speaker 1 (02:35:25):
I mean you said pop, but yeah, no, but he's also
considered pop as well.
I mean I would consider the barsong pop.
I wouldn't really consider himpop because he only has that one
song.
I mean, I only know that onesong.
He may have other songs, Idon't know, but yeah, I would
consider him just pop.
I mean just country music umtanaka oh so okay.

(02:35:51):
So let me ask you this are yousaying, because he started out,
since he started out and he wasblack, he's not going to be able
to start out as pop music?

Speaker 2 (02:35:59):
pretty much, yeah.
So you pretty much have to workto get your way to pop To pop,
because in the way that my guyFrank.

Speaker 1 (02:36:07):
There's some truth to that Stature no.

Speaker 2 (02:36:09):
Because if you're looking at it as far as stature,
yes, but versus when it comesto someone like a Justin Bieber,
anything he releases, it'sautomatically pop.

Speaker 1 (02:36:19):
Yeah.
I mean you're not wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:36:22):
When you're looking at it as far as stature, yes,
very much so.
Racism but me how I look at itas a genre of music.
It doesn't matter if you'reblack or white.

Speaker 1 (02:36:33):
Yeah, but at the same time there is some truth to
like, if you start out as anartist, there is some slight
racism in, like, okay, you'reblack, so you're singing.
You're black, oh, and you sing,oh, and the beat is so you must
be r&b or new jack swing, yeah,or anything else, that's not

(02:36:54):
like, oh, you're white, you sing, oh, you must be pop.
I mean I could see that.
I mean I could see that, butlike um at the same time.
Um, I was going to bring up thepoint of Jason Derulo, but he
didn't start out as pop, hestarted out as R&B.
That, what you say, was an R&Bsong and then, like, it blew up

(02:37:14):
and then he's just been in popever since.
I think is how it went.
Same thing with Flo Rida he wasa rapper, he was a rap rapper.
He got Lil Wayne on his firstalbum, on some shit, and then
anything after that was kind ofpop.
Same thing with Pitbull.

Speaker 2 (02:37:30):
He was a real street rapper.
He would come out with Latinsongs.

Speaker 1 (02:37:37):
And after that he just went pop, he just went pop
yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:37:41):
And then you could kind of consider bad money, pop
Bad money.
You know what I mean, you ofconsider bad money, pop bad.
But I mean, yeah, you can, youcan consider bad money.
Oh, yeah, bad money, yeah, no,you can consider shakira, yeah,
he's very yeah you can considerthose, they're very they're very
successful, for sure so that's,that's where it goes.
Which um?
But, yeah, like, and now youcan start to consider Kendrick

(02:38:04):
pop.

Speaker 1 (02:38:08):
I mean, I wouldn't say Kendrick Lamar as a pop
artist, I would just say some ofhis music could be labeled as
pop music because it'ssuccessful.

Speaker 2 (02:38:20):
I would say.
I would say Not Like Us is pop,because that is a song that
let's be honest nobody like youknow what I mean.
Nobody outside of Kendrick fanslike and I'm talking about in
America specifically knewKendrick before that night like

(02:38:41):
a Not Like Us song Because ofDrake.

Speaker 1 (02:38:44):
Would that be for Drake?
That's boy, that's that's boy.
That's some words you sayingright there boy.

Speaker 2 (02:38:49):
No, no, it wasn't he, he wasn't, he wasn't lighting
it up like that before before,before, not like us oh okay, I
mean I'm not saying that, Iguess it's your perception, I
guess, but but I mean the thing.

Speaker 1 (02:39:05):
Okay, so here's the thing, here's the thing about,
well honestly here's the thingabout life right, and folks have
this perception that life andsuccess is supposed to go one
way, and that's it, and that'sall.
The thing that I see withKendrick is Kendrick wants to
just do shit his way.
And if he wants to do it, andhe just wants to do shit his way
, and if he wants to do and hejust wants to do shit his way,

(02:39:26):
and it just so happens, he justso happens to be the best
fucking artist in the worldright now, right now, and he has
perception on life and heperceives it the way that he
does and through the way that heshows his art.

Speaker 2 (02:39:43):
But that's what I'm saying.
So for you to say that he showshis art.

Speaker 1 (02:39:45):
But that's what I'm saying.
So for you to say that he'slike I don't know his success.

Speaker 2 (02:39:50):
Well, okay.
So, his popularity, I would saywasn't a thing.
Well, I wouldn't say it was asbig a thing until.

Speaker 3 (02:40:02):
Tread lightly 20.

Speaker 2 (02:40:03):
No, no, no, it wasn't a thing, it wasn't a big thing,
cause granted, until he dissedDrake.

Speaker 3 (02:40:11):
Cause I'm not gonna.

Speaker 2 (02:40:13):
Most of these artists they have to diss Drake or they
have to collab With Drake, toyou know.

Speaker 3 (02:40:18):
But no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (02:40:22):
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing, here's thething.

Speaker 3 (02:40:27):
I literally just had this conversation with a fellow
delinquent named DJ Sonic oh,I'm hater number one cause.
What I'm getting, what I'mfeeling, like you trying to get
at, is you're saying thatKendrick wouldn't have the
success he had without Drake.
Is that what point you weregetting at, right here?

Speaker 1 (02:40:48):
I would say that I would disagree with that.
If that's what you're saying, Iwould say I would disagree with
that.

Speaker 2 (02:40:56):
He wouldn't be at the level he's at today, if it
wasn't yes.
I'm going to disagree with that, without Drake, he does not
have not like us and he's not.
Yes, I'm going to, I'm going todisagree with that.
Okay, without Drake, he doesnot have not like us.

Speaker 1 (02:41:05):
No, no, no, no no no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, had it.
If you're gonna just base itoff of just drake, that's kind
of that's kind of fucked up, no,not, and here and here's, but

(02:41:26):
here's the thing I base it offof.
Yes, it might have been becausehe picked up.
He picked up this beef withdrake and all that stuff.
Yeah, that may have been thefire to the flame or whatever,
but y'all also gotta put, uh,give it to his ability as well,
his ability to put a songtogether and make it as, make it
as you know, as what is it?

(02:41:48):
What is it related?
What did Joss okay, bring upJoss Point?
What was Joss Point About?
Not Like Us you were telling meabout?
It's not even about the, it'snot even about the disc.
It's not even about the discanymore.

Speaker 2 (02:42:00):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (02:42:05):
It's more than no.
No, no, it's bigger than thedisc.

Speaker 3 (02:42:06):
Yeah it's not.
It's not just about no, no, no,but it was, it was, yeah.
The point he was making it'sthe fact that the reason the
song is so detrimental like toDrake and just everything is
because the song is now simply,it's like a.
It's something everyone canrelate to, whether it's like a

(02:42:26):
sports team, a small town.
They not like us, like we'redifferent from them.
You know, I'm saying like it'ssuch a simple concept that every
like even different communitiescan relate to that.
You know, I'm saying becausethey're not like us, so it's
become like a chant and almostlike a.
You know, I'm saying becausethey're not like us, so it's
become like a chant and almostlike a.
You know, I'm saying like ananthem for them.

(02:42:49):
You know, alongside the factthat he's dissing drake so okay.

Speaker 1 (02:42:55):
So, with all that being said, are you saying that
had drop and give me 50 andfamily matters been successful?
We would be saying we would bethanking he.
Drake would need to thankkendrick for where he's at no,
because Drake had already.
Drake is already at a levelthat.
Kendrick, and Kendrick wasn'tat that level no, so you're

(02:43:15):
telling me Drake.

Speaker 2 (02:43:16):
As far as popularity, you know what I mean.
Drake and Kendrick are on thesame level that's why I can, but
that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (02:43:22):
That's why.
I feel, but that's what I'msaying.
That's what.
That's your misunderstanding.
Drake is a pop artist.
Kendrick is a rapper.
But here's the thing, and thisis why this is where he this is.
This is where drake fucked up.
He tried to he, he gotbig-headed and he had these
discs where everybody else andhe was untouchable and got
touched.

(02:43:42):
That was, that was the.
I'm not saying.
I'm not saying that kendrickcan put out a club song, or he
could put out a latin song, orhe can come up with the greatest
melodies of all time.
Kendrick is a rapper at atheart.
Kendrick is a rapper and he hassymbolism and everything, and

(02:44:03):
it just so happened that he wasable to come out with Not Like
Us and that shit exploded.

Speaker 2 (02:44:09):
Here's what my difference is when it came to,
because this is not the firsttime Kendrick has dissed a
rapper.
It's not the first time he'sdissed Drake.

Speaker 3 (02:44:17):
Well, let's get it clear, man, let's get this clear
, okay.
Okay, did Kendrick diss, drakeand them?
All he said was that he's thebest.
He said f the big three, it'sonly big me I'm the best.
That's basically what he'ssaying.
He didn't.
You know, I'm saying like he'sjust and and that's that's what

(02:44:41):
I get frustrated on, becauseeveryone wants to say kendrick's
always did he, even when he wassaying that he wants to like
back with the control versewhere he's trying to.
You know, I'm saying murder allthese folks and take all their
fans right.
It's literally him justchallenging people to be the
best.
You know, I'm saying it's noteven, it's not even to me.

(02:45:03):
I don't look at it.
He's saying it in a hateful way.
He's looking at it likecompetition, like we should all
feel like we're the best,because if we're not doing that,
then why are we participatingin this?
You know, I'm saying and that'sthat's kind of the essence of
what hip-hop has always beenbuilt on is I'm the best, you're
not.
I'm gonna show you why.

(02:45:23):
You know, I'm saying and that'sthat's always elevated the game
, because it's it's forcedeveryone to bring their best in
order to be the best.
So when I look at this, it'slike I've always he.
That's one thing about Kendrick.
He's always stayed true to that, you know.
I'm saying he's always beentrying to elevate the game and

(02:45:44):
keep it competitive, because ifit doesn't get competitive,
that's when folk getlackadaisical and they're not as
sharp on their toes with it,you run.
You run faster when someone'schasing you you know I'm saying,
and I feel like that's whatevery diss, that people perceive
it as that's just him trying tochallenge the game, for
everyone to step their game up,because he wants the best out of

(02:46:06):
you.
He doesn't want just you justchilling, he wants the best.
And so drake felt like he, he,he felt like he was the best, so
he went and challenged.

Speaker 1 (02:46:21):
You know, cole even felt it too, like and and to
piggyback that if he was as bigas you say he is Drake, if Drake
was as big as you said he was,he wouldn't have responded.
If he was that big, if he wasreally that big, if he was that
much bigger than KendrickBecause there's been a lot of

(02:46:41):
people.
Let's think about this.
Let's put this in perspectivetoo.
Right, drake has been on topever since he started 2009.
It's 2024.
There's a lot of people that inthis drake and drinking say
shit.
So for him, so for him to benot as big as drake.
Yeah, he may not be at thelevel, because dra covers a lot

(02:47:04):
of ground.
Kendrick is just great at kindof one thing Like rap.
That's where he's good at.
Drake tried to step in his laneand got ran over, but at the
same time, if Kendrick is reallynot as good as everybody says
he is, why did he respond?
Why did he take time out of hisday to respond to Kendrick

(02:47:26):
Lamar?

Speaker 2 (02:47:27):
But okay, what I don't want y'all to misconstrue
is that I'm not saying Kendrickis not a popular artist.
What I'm saying is he's apopular artist here before, not
Like Us here in the US.

Speaker 1 (02:47:44):
So the U, so the.

Speaker 2 (02:47:45):
US has.
That's a big market.
That's a big market.
So for you to be, popular hereand you did this.
Drake where Drake started.
Like you know, he's been on topsince 2009 and the first market
he was able to take over wasthe US and Canada as well,
because he was Canadian.

(02:48:06):
This is someone.
This was an actor on the grassyand then he moved over into the
, you know, into the music world.
He became an artist and hestarted off as a rapper, gained
his popularity and then he moved.
Know, he's been up since and sonow you know, ego is still a

(02:48:28):
thing when you're, when you'rethat big and you know you,
you're having people sing yourpraises.
Like I was saying, earlier likewhen it came to meg the stallion
.
You know you have your hotties,you have your fans.
That's telling you you're,you're the greatest, you're the
best this, this and that that'snot the ones you're paying
attention to, the ones you'rethe greatest, you're the best
this, this, and that that's notthe ones you're paying attention
to.
The ones you're payingattention to is the people who
are saying Tory's innocent oryou have no talent.

Speaker 1 (02:48:54):
That's perspective.

Speaker 2 (02:48:55):
Most people.

Speaker 1 (02:48:56):
But that's perspective.
And the only reason why I saythat is because, kendrick, well,
honestly, once you make it to acertain level and honestly it's
not even like drake or kendricklevel once you make it to at
least even a, b, a, c level, clevel, d level, celebrity,
you're gonna have people talkingshit about you.
Hell us as djs.
We get motherfuckers talkingabout us all the time yeah, but

(02:49:16):
it's different.

Speaker 2 (02:49:17):
No, no, no, no, no, you're right, you're right,
you're definitely right aboutthat.

Speaker 1 (02:49:20):
What I'm saying is is but it's all about perspective.
Kendrick has a lot of peopletalking shit about him for many
different reasons.
Does he respond?
No, because it's not.
It's not.
It's not a part.
It's not a part of his plan, ofwhatever his plan is.
Like with certain shit is justlike you gotta pick and choose
your battles and, honestly,that's not a, that's not a

(02:49:42):
battle.
That's not a battle.
I feel like he should have tookwell in a me being a fan.
He absolutely should have tookit.
That's me being selfish.
Yes, drake drake definitelyshould have took it, because he
came out, we, we got familymatters.
Drop and give me 50 euphoria.
Meet the grams.

Speaker 4 (02:49:59):
Not like us and honestly and like I, like I tell
tanaka and I feel like I saidthis on other podcasts when I
first heard not like us andhonestly and like I like I tell
tanaka and I feel like I saidthis on other podcasts when I
first heard not like us, Ithought that shit was goofy but
the thing about it is I have ahope my mind is open enough to
see the impact of what it is.

Speaker 1 (02:50:14):
Not like us is the only song I well okay, I won't
say only song, that's one of theonly songs I could think of
that I got requested in allthree different shits that I do
Gold Rush somebody came up to meand asked for Not Like Us.
At the skating rink, somebodyasked for Not Like Us.
Metro, fucking diner somebodyasked for Not Like Us.
Those are three totallydifferent fucking platforms to

(02:50:39):
be DJing at and asking for NotLike Us.
The fucking wrestling showsomeone asked for Not Like Us.
And the pre-show not like us.
These are four totallydifferent djing things.
So I don't really necessarilycare for not like us as a song
just by itself, but I can.
I I have an open mind enough tosee the impact that it had it

(02:51:00):
was a bit.

Speaker 2 (02:51:01):
It's a big song.
He, he won.
He won five grammys off thatsong.
It's like it's a big song, likeit did numbers and I like me
personally, um like I saidunpopular opinion, but it's just
.
Follow me, me personally.

(02:51:21):
The reason why that song was sobig was because, like, it was
meant to cater to everybody andnot just kendrick fans, because
I feel like in kendrick songsthere's a lot of yes, okay okay,
um, you know there's a lot ofsymbolism.
he's a lyricist, so much to thepoint where, um, you, if you're

(02:51:43):
not a kendrick fan, you're notgonna understand it, it's gonna
go over your head.
And that even happened in theSuper Bowl, right, because a lot
of people, you know, as you'rewatching the Super Bowl, they're
like man, this shit is whack,right, but it wasn't until and
me personally, I was like, youknow, I'm not a Kendrick fan,

(02:52:04):
I'm not looking to dissect.
You know, especially a SuperBowl, like a halftime show, a
Super Bowl halftime show, peoplecome out, they put on a
performance and you know, theyput on a show and hope you're
entertained.
That wasn't Kendrick.
Kendrick came and he came tosend a message right, came and

(02:52:28):
he came to send a message, right.
And if, if you're not careful,you think he's sending a message
at drake, when he's reallysending a message to his people,
the us, the country, you knowwhat I mean donald trump, you
know like, and and that's, andit's no coincidence because most
of his songs are very you know,they have a lot of symbolism.
He's a lyricist and things likethat.
And it's no coincidence becausemost of the songs are very you
know, they have a lot ofsymbolism.
He's a lyricist and things likethat, but it's also not a

(02:52:49):
coincidence that, not like us,which is most like, in my
opinion his most straightforward, most clear, concise, easy to
understand, easy to read songended up being his biggest song
as of yet.
Song ended up being his biggestsong as of yet, agree or

(02:53:11):
disagree, and that even went forthe Super Bowl.
Me, personally, my criticism ofit is that it was too I'm not
going to say too symbolic, butit wasn't overt enough in my
opinion.
For what do you mean by overt?
So over right?
So, if you're sending a messageon that stage, yes, I get the,

(02:53:37):
the sony, um, the x squaretriangle circle, um, I get the,
the red, white and blue, likewhat I'm.
My thing is this make it clear,make it clearer for those to see
and not have to go back anddissect it because, like I said,

(02:53:59):
me, I had to go back and looktwice and understand like, oh,
ok, because someone brought outthe symbolism.
And then that's when I wentback and I saw it and I was like
, oh, ok, so this was not aperformance for like
entertainment, this was aperformance of sending a message
to the masses and now, when yougo back and you actually watch

(02:54:23):
the performance, you canappreciate it in that, in that
light so let me ask you this, umthis, uh, the views on, um, the
views on the halftime show andall that stuff does, does
kendrick get?

Speaker 1 (02:54:37):
does kendrick or kendrick's team or any of that,
do they get any of that money,or or no?
Do y'all know?
Do y'all know?

Speaker 2 (02:54:44):
about that.
Typically the halftimeperformers they don't.
I'm not going to say they payto be on there.

Speaker 1 (02:54:51):
Oh yeah, no, no, I know they don't get paid.
I know that what I'm asking isfor the halftime show.
Does when?

Speaker 2 (02:54:58):
they get views and stuff because I know, on views
and YouTube you get paid and allthat All so none of that's to
kendrick I don't think so nookay, so my, my only, my only
the only thing that, well, theonly way kendrick and his team
benefit is through.

Speaker 1 (02:55:18):
Like my stream, okay so my only response yeah,
because he had a search forstreams and all that shit.
My only uh comment to that isum kind of equivalent to why.
Um kind of equivalent to why Ithought young thug was a genius
when he makes his music becausein a sense everybody calls it
mumble, rap and all that stuff.
But at the same time, if youreally listen to it like you got

(02:55:39):
really listen to it he'sactually saying, he's actually
saying something, he's actuallysaying words.
But you can't just listen toYoung Thug one time and be like,
oh yeah, I get what he's saying.
No, you gotta listen to him acouple times and by that that
point, you done listened to himabout ten times and you're like
now, he done got ten views offof you.
So my thing would've been that,okay, he made all these.
And that's the thing aboutKendrick.

(02:56:00):
Kendrick has always been thetype to do something.
Go back under his rock andthat's just it.
So he'll make a point.
It's either you see it or youdon't, and you go back.
He doesn't explain any of it.
He doesn't do any interviews,he doesn't do nothing.
It's just he puts it out.
You like it or love it.
Go back to his rock, go back towork, finish this plan.

(02:56:22):
So my thing would have beenthat he probably did that.
So because he knows, bro, welive in a social media world and
he has enough fans or enoughpeople that are behind him, that
would be like okay.
Okay, I'm going to dissect thisand I'm going to tell you what
Kendrick meant.
And he doesn't have to Becausehe doesn't have to do it.

Speaker 2 (02:56:41):
He doesn't.
I mean me personally.
My only criticism is that ifyou are going to send a message
like that, like it would havebeen so much more powerful you
know what I mean.
Had you know what I mean, hadyou know what I mean, the the
masses had been able to dissectit right then and there that
that wasn't gonna happen andthat's not.
That's not who kendrick is, andthat's not who he is, but and I

(02:57:01):
get that on most scenarios, Ido get that, except on that
stage.

Speaker 1 (02:57:06):
Nah, he wasn't that's me, except on that stage.

Speaker 2 (02:57:09):
I mean because like okay, if this is so much deeper
than um rap, if this is so muchdeeper than the beef, then you
have to like at that point, ifyou're going to say that on that
stage, then the message has tobe clearer than what it was and
we shouldn't have to go tosocial media and your people to
dissect what you actually mean.
That's just me.

(02:57:32):
I agree and that's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (02:57:34):
I agree and that's my opinion yeah, yeah, he probably
doing like song today, probablynot paying attention to words.

Speaker 2 (02:57:41):
You said yeah it's between me and you but like that
, but that's just how I feelabout it.

Speaker 1 (02:57:46):
Like you know, to me, you can't and and I and I and I
, in a sense I agree with youand it kind of reminds me, and I
and I said on his vlog, notbeing open-minded, but at the
same time, it's to your point.
It's to your point that a fewyears back well, not a few years
, probably a decade now I hadwent to listen to the Yeezus

(02:58:07):
album by Kanye.
I was super excited.
It's Kanye West, one of myfavorite rappers.
I was super excited, kanye West, one of my favorite rappers.
And it was like, yeah, he cameout with it and I thought it was
terrible.
I listened to this shit.
I was like, bro, what the fuckis this?
This is awful.
And so I went back and Istarted talking to people about

(02:58:31):
how because there are somepeople that think Yeezus is one
of his greatest albums of alltime and I mean, hey, that's
what you, that's what you did,bro, that's what you listen to.
That's how you feel, yeah, howyou feel, hey, bro, more
priority, hey, more yeezus foryou, but I wasn't open-minded
enough to think that he wouldexperiment like that, and I was
just like, I mean, I guess, andso that's why I've been open
that's why I've been kind ofopen minded with certain

(02:58:53):
perspectives of shit, because atthis point, when it comes to
life, it's about perspective,and it's your perspective
against theirs, and but I do get.
What you're saying, though, isthat if you're going to make a
point, make the point and makeit direct.
However, that's not whoKendrick is, and I can't kind of
I can't hello, I kind of can'tcompare the situation to the

(02:59:15):
Yeezus, because Yeezus is on apersonal CD that you have to
personally listen to on yourpersonal time.
I get you, I completely getthat, alright let's get to
chopping this fight oh, here wego, pull the sword out.
So I watched the interview.

Speaker 3 (02:59:31):
The Apple Music interview.
Oh, here we go, you can pullthe sword out.
All right, man, Totally.
So I watched the interview, theApple Music interview.
You know what I'm saying withKendrick and all that.

Speaker 1 (02:59:40):
That's the one before .

Speaker 3 (02:59:41):
Yeah, he said that authenticity is one of the key
points that he spoke on verydeeply throughout the interview.
One of the key points that hespoke on very deeply throughout
the interview, and becausekendrick values authenticity so
much, there's no way that he wasgonna deliver, because tonic

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was making the same point thatyou making superbowl is a is a
party.
Right, it's supposed to be justentertainment everyone having a
good time playing the.
You know songs that everybodyknow, because that's that's one
of the biggest knocks.
Right, folk didn't know thesongs that he was performing.

Speaker 1 (03:00:24):
All that right which is I wouldn't say that odd like
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't go that far, Iwouldn't go that far when niggas
were saying that I was like, Imean, I get, they're not the
biggest songs he has, but fuck,squabble Up came out and was
TikTok famous Fucking.

Speaker 2 (03:00:40):
All the Stars was huge.
Humble, Humble.

Speaker 1 (03:00:43):
DNA.

Speaker 2 (03:00:44):
Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to say that I wouldn't
agree with that.

Speaker 3 (03:00:49):
Well, because that was my biggest thing with Sonic.
I said, okay, you with that.
Well, that was because that wasmy biggest thing with sonic.
I said, okay, you know what I'msaying.
It's kendrick lamar.
What would you have?
What would you rather have hadhim do different?
You know, I'm saying, and he'slike I wouldn't have him perform
.
I said, look, that's not thequestion.
Look, he's selected as aperformer.
What perform?

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What would you rather have himperform differently than what he
did?

Speaker 2 (03:01:17):
he gonna bring us swimming pools I mean it was a
big song, but like listen mepersonally.

Speaker 1 (03:01:25):
Pool is so mid to me.

Speaker 2 (03:01:27):
I ain't me personally .
Just I don't have a problemwith any of the songs he
performed, even the new song hedebuted at the Super Bowl.
I don't have an issue with that.

Speaker 1 (03:01:40):
Wait, what song I heard that?
What song did he debut at theSuper Bowl?
I forgot.

Speaker 2 (03:01:46):
It was the one where it was him and there was people
behind him.

Speaker 3 (03:01:51):
That wasn't a new song.
That was on a new album.

Speaker 2 (03:01:56):
That's the man in the garden yeah, that's the man at
the garden.
Well, they said one of thosesongs was new.

Speaker 1 (03:02:00):
I'm not completely sure I think they said it was
that one, because I think evensam um, I think uncle sam, he
highlighted that one.

Speaker 2 (03:02:05):
He was like oh, um, if I heard it correctly I could
be.

Speaker 1 (03:02:09):
Yeah, that's the one he highlighted.
He said the duck won life yeah,won life.

Speaker 2 (03:02:13):
Yeah, I think in his little speech he was like oh, it
might have been you performingwith your boys.
I thought I heard you doingthat.

Speaker 1 (03:02:21):
Yeah, I could be wrong With your homeboys at
Ghetto or some shit.
Yeah, or some hood rat shit.
Anywho.

Speaker 2 (03:02:25):
I mean that's besides the point.
Go ahead.
But like, well, back to myfurther point.
I don't have an issue with anyof the songs that you perform.
I mean, yeah, I don't have anissue with that.

Speaker 3 (03:02:36):
So you think you feel like the message should have
been clearer and more straightto the point.
That's your point.

Speaker 2 (03:02:42):
I feel like the symbolism.
He could have rolled back alittle bit.

Speaker 1 (03:02:45):
Lupe, dumb it down.

Speaker 2 (03:02:48):
And yes, if you're going to send a message like
that.

Speaker 3 (03:02:50):
But here's my thing though 20.
Especially, and yes, if you'regoing to send a message like
that, but here's my thing though20.

Speaker 2 (03:02:53):
Especially with the song, especially with the song
Dumb it down your biggest songbeing more clear, more concise.
There's not as much symbolism.
Dumb it down.
That's how that performanceshould have been.

Speaker 3 (03:03:05):
How are you going to say that when in that song he
said the audience not dumb, Likehow are you going to say that
he literally said the audienceis not dumb?
If he's standing on that, thenwhy would he dumb down his
performance?
If he says in the biggest songthat everybody know him for he

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says the audience is not dumb,why would he dumb down his
performance?
Because, that would bedetracting from what he's
standing on.

Speaker 2 (03:03:33):
He had too much faith in his audience.
Well, okay, if he's saying theaudience.

Speaker 4 (03:03:38):
He might, yeah, he might, if he's saying the
audience is not dumb.

Speaker 2 (03:03:41):
He means his audience is not dumb because, at the end
of the day, everybody outsideof his audience needed to go to
social media needed to go to hisfans to figure out what was
going on in that performance.
If you weren't a fan ofKendrick, you thought that
performance was not good, andthat's point blank period.

(03:04:01):
But here's my thing or part ofthe culture.
I'm not going to lie and that'syour first reaction.

Speaker 3 (03:04:09):
I understand that.
Here's my thing, though he hadto deliver that message on that
platform, because that's not aplatform he's gonna get every
single time exactly, which is tomy point, if you're going to do
that hit and hit hard.

Speaker 2 (03:04:26):
I'm not saying it has to be to the point where it's
fuck racism.
You know, fuck Donald Trump,shit like that.

Speaker 1 (03:04:33):
I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 2 (03:04:34):
That's what it sounds like, no no, no, what I'm
saying is this there was so muchsymbolism and it was so complex
, to the point where the averageviewer Okay.
So if we're in a room of 10people who are non-Kendrick fans
, all 10 people thought thatthat performance was mid because
they were looking forentertainment and they missed

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the point.
The only time that thatperformance could have been
broken down is if there's 11people in there and one of them
was a Kendrick fan and they'relike guys.
you guys are missing the point.
It's not supposed to beentertaining.
They're like guys.
You guys are missing the point.
It's not supposed to beentertaining.
He just sent a message and thenyou go back and you dissect it.

(03:05:16):
You dissect the point, theperformance.
That's my point.
So, instead of that, what I'msaying is this instead of it
doesn't have to be so overt, butwhat I'm saying is is this how
about make it to the point whereit's symbolic, to the point
where the black panther withbeyonce and and runo mars in

(03:05:40):
that performance, that's, it'snot so overt, but it's overt, to
the point where, if you know,you know and you understand, and
if you're in a room full of 10people, you understand it, like
three out of the three out ofthe 10 would understand it.

Speaker 3 (03:05:59):
I okay, I see what you're saying, but another issue
, I think, is the fact that thisis the first solo rap artist
that's done the done the Grammys.
You mean Superbowl, superbowl,excuse me.

Speaker 2 (03:06:11):
Solo artists.

Speaker 3 (03:06:13):
Solo rap artist.
There's never been a performerthat was a solo rap artist that
did the Super Bowl.
You're saying Beyonce andpeople can vibe to Beyonce just
based off of her singing,because they can hear her sing
and do these dance moves andstuff.
But a pure rapper strictlyrapping like the closest thing

(03:06:35):
will probably be when dr dre hadbrought out snoop kendrick,
mary j blige and all that.
But even then even then, it'slike you're taking five artists
and then you're taking liketheir top party songs.
You know I'm saying like, soit's like it's one big party and
it's like that, thateverybody's cool with that.
You know, I'm saying, and Iunderstand there's no real point

(03:06:57):
to that.
They just celebrating thegreatness of dr dre and what he
done, contributed to the musicgame, which there's no problem
with.
You know I'm saying, but that'sreally the basis of it.
There's no real message being,you know I'm saying, trying to
be pushed out and I understandthat.

Speaker 2 (03:07:13):
And my only pushback to you is I don't have an issue
with the message being pushedout I'm saying is make that
message more clear, becauseyou're on that stage but I'm
saying, how are you going tomake it more clear?

Speaker 3 (03:07:24):
that would be asking him to to dumb that.
How would you?
How would you have dumbed downthat?
That performance I would have?

Speaker 2 (03:07:31):
I would have done some type of tribute.
That performance, I would havedone some type of tribute.
I would have done some type oftribute.
Dei right, that's a big thingnow.
I would have incorporated sometype of I would have highlighted
DEI some way, somehow to thepoint where you know if you're
paying attention.
Black people understood itright.

Speaker 3 (03:07:52):
You said DEIE-I.

Speaker 2 (03:07:53):
D-E-I Diversity, equity and inclusion.
That's been a big thing, andit's another term for racism,
right?

Speaker 1 (03:08:04):
You never heard of the D-E-I thing.
So basically, d-e-i isbasically they can discriminate
at the workplace.
Yeah, they can discriminate, uh, for your at the workplace yeah
, they can discriminate at yourworkplace.

Speaker 2 (03:08:14):
You feel like um just because you're asian, just
because you're asian, you'reblack, you're a woman, like we
have to hire you because you're,because we don't have enough
diversity, equity or inclusion,so that that being a big thing,
protesting that, some way,somehow you incorporate that
into the show, making that clearso that the general audience or

(03:08:37):
the people who need tounderstand, so those three
people that are non Kendrickfans can understand.
Wait, this is not just forentertainment, this is not just
a Beyonce, this is not just aRihanna, and I'm not let's throw
Beyonce out of it of it becauseshe put on when she did the
Black Panther stance For herwhen she represented during her

(03:09:03):
Super Bowl halftime show.
So we're going to throw.
Beyonce out of it.
She did it Something closer tothat.
That's what I would have donedifferently.
She did it Something closer tothat.
That's what I would have donedifferently.

Speaker 3 (03:09:14):
Once again, you're comparing something that's
completely different, though.
You know what I'm saying, how?
Because Beyonce sings, and sothat's already a difference,
because people are more likelyto listen to someone sing than
be saying a whole bunch of wordsthat rhyme and saying them fast
.
You know, I'm saying peoplecan't even understand kendrick,

(03:09:36):
like what he's saying, butpeople are more.
They'll listen to what beyonceis singing just because it
sounds a melody.
Yeah, it's a melody that theymay not even hear the lyrics
she's singing, but because she'ssinging and it sounds good,
singing wise, they'll listen orthey'll be entertained by that,
because not everybody can sing.

Speaker 2 (03:09:57):
And I understand that and that, and that's where it
does make it a little bit moredifficult, because you are a
rapper.

Speaker 3 (03:10:03):
But another thing about Kendrick is he wanted one
of his other key points aboutthis performance is he wanted to
showcase hip-hop as an art form.
And what does that mean?
If we really go down to thebasis of hip-hop, it's dope
lyrics over dope beats.
It's that simple, you know.

(03:10:24):
I'm saying like.
So if you, if your main focusis being as authentic as
possible and showcasing thathip-hop is an art form, because
it's often not recognized asthat, it's often not appreciated
as that, if that's what you'restanding on, then I I don't see
how you can dumb down yourperformance because you want to

(03:10:44):
make it more entertaining to thepeople when you're trying to
showcase and stand on the factthat hip-hop is an art form that
needs to be appreciated well,okay, and maybe, maybe, the.

Speaker 2 (03:10:56):
When I say some dumbing it down, you think of it
as trying to take away from theauthenticity of the, of the
performance, and you know, yeah,dope beats and and that's not
what I'm saying.
Once again, where the songs heperformed, I had no issue with

(03:11:16):
them.
I had none whatsoever,whatsoever.
And even the entertainmentaspect.
I don't have an issue with itnot being entertaining because
at the, at the general base ofit, it was not supposed to be an
, it wasn't supposed to beentertaining, it was supposed to
be what did you think, swanee?
I told you as far as how do Ifeel about the performance yeah,

(03:11:40):
what did you think?
In the moment.
I'm not a Kendrick fan.
I'm not an everyday Kendrickfan what did you think?

Speaker 3 (03:11:47):
you turned it on.

Speaker 2 (03:11:49):
I'm breaking it down.
I'm breaking it down.
In the moment when I saw it, Isaid this performance is very
mid.
However, I'm thinking as anormal NFL fan, what I'm used to
.
I'm used to a performance, I'mused to entertainment.
I'm used to that stage beingthat it wasn't until the next

(03:12:11):
day when I went to social mediaand I saw that this was not
about entertainment.
This was about Kendrick sendinga message and about how he was
sending a message to his people.
Was I able to go back and lookat that performance and enjoy it
in a different light?
And look at that performanceand enjoy it in a different

(03:12:32):
light?
So once I was able to get themessage and understand what he
was trying to portray, that'swhen I decided ah, okay, that's
a solid performance, Because notonly is he addressing his
lawsuit with Sony, but he wasalso sending a message to his
people.
Now, the only crap I have aboutit is that it wasn't clear

(03:12:59):
enough, and that's that's alwaysgonna be my, that's gonna
always be my biggest critic.

Speaker 3 (03:13:02):
But if you.
But if you get it, then why isthere a complaint?

Speaker 1 (03:13:07):
because he's saying, because he wasn't able to get
that on the first, on the firsttry, he just watch it the first
try.
But let me ask you this 20.

Speaker 3 (03:13:14):
Have you ever watched a movie five times and gotten
five different meanings out ofit each time you re-watched the
movie?

Speaker 2 (03:13:21):
I wouldn't know, I wouldn't Five times, maybe
re-watching it a second time.
I'm understanding it and I'mlike, okay, I watched it, it was
entertaining.
The second time I'm like, ah,ok, third time is probably the
last time I get all the meaningsout of it.
Fourth and fifth that's whenI'm just seeing minor details

(03:13:45):
that I probably missed the firsttime.
I mean, granted, everybody's,everybody today is now just
figuring out and Friday it wasyou know what.
I mean there was a girl, I meanthere was a guy in the bed with
Felicia when she was callingCraig, and most people are
saying that it was Debo.
And I've watched Fridaymultiple times, multiple times.

(03:14:12):
So my thing is this, like beingthat I had to re-watch it and
I'm not saying I had to geteverything, but it would have
been nice.
For in the moment I understandthat, okay, you know, I got that
.
He's paying tribute to that.
At least he plans to seed in myhead to the point where, like,

(03:14:33):
well, in the midst of me callingit mid, I'm like, okay, I could
go to social media see whatother people think.
And then, when they startedtelling me that it was a message
to us, you know our people, youknow for us to come together.
I can be like ah okay, be like.

Speaker 1 (03:14:56):
Ah, okay, it makes sense why I interpreted that as
that.
Let me actually this 20 um,because here's a point that no
one ever brings up and I feellike I'm like the only one that
ever brings this up, and I don'tknow, I might just be tripping.
When you, when you turned onthat, when you turned on that,
uh, when you turned on thehalftime show for the first time
, did it ever cross your mind?
Did it ever cross your mindthat he was like that?

(03:15:16):
You were like you're just,you're just anticipating for him
to drop, not like us.

Speaker 2 (03:15:22):
No, I knew, I knew it , like I knew he was probably
going to drop it.
I knew, bro, that's, that's howyou ended up on the Super Bowl.
You would be like I mean, Ihear what Charlamagne was saying
because I did agree with him toan extent where I'm like man
you probably shouldn't perform adiss, but the diss is what got

(03:15:42):
you to the Super Bowl.
So you're going to hear thatsong, but me personally, I like
the performance, I like thebells and I like the whistles.
Me personally, my favoritehalftime show of all time was
Rihanna.
Rihanna didn't do much.
She was very simple with it.
It was mostly the choreographyaround her that made it for me,
with all the bells and whistles.

Speaker 1 (03:16:02):
Well, that, and she was singing as well.

Speaker 2 (03:16:05):
Yeah, and I was also a Rihanna fan.
I knew most of the songs.
So you know, maybe there's alittle bit of bias there.

Speaker 1 (03:16:17):
So there was no anticipation for not like us.

Speaker 2 (03:16:18):
You, you knew it was happening.
I knew it was happening.
You knew that it was 100.
I didn't know, I didn't knowhow it was going to get
presented, but I knew it washappening.
Why wouldn't you present?

Speaker 1 (03:16:23):
so there was so there was never.
So there was no, well, becausehe was getting sued.
Because he was going to getsued, no, he was going to
perform that song.
Well, yes, because I mean, butthat was still okay.
So this is a point that I keepbringing up and I feel like I, I
feel like I talked to you aboutthis, but I don't know if I
don't remember, if I did or not.
I feel like where everybodymissed the points was, like you

(03:16:45):
said, not like us is what gothim to the super bowl, correct?
yes people were sitting on theedge of their seat the whole
time.
As a matter of fact, hold onhold.
That thought real quick, realquick, let me see time.
Kendrick, alright, set list.

(03:17:16):
Let's see, alright.
So here's the thing.
Right.
So Not Like Us was number 10.
So and this is where I feellike Kendrick shot himself in
the foot.
Like you said, not Like Us iswhat got him to the dance,
correct?
yes everybody in that building,like you said, probably isn't a

(03:17:39):
kendrick fan, but they eitherknow not like us or they're like
.
Oh, this is that.
This is that this is that songthis is that song that won the
five grammys.
Did it ever cross your mindthat they probably missed the
point of all the symbolism andall that?
Because they had to waitthrough GNX?
Squabble up humble DNA,euphoria man at the garden.
So they're like, okay, squabbleup Cool Humble, cool, dna, cool

(03:18:02):
, euphoria, cool.
And they're like, okay, whenare we getting?

Speaker 2 (03:18:07):
out like this thing, though the only pushback I had
to that is humble was a big song.
That was a big, okay, okay, butbut here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (03:18:18):
Here's the thing, and I don't mean to cut you off the
the reason why I say thatpeople I feel like a lot of
people miss the symbolismbecause, like you said, no, a
lot of them knew, not like us.
And yeah, they, they may knowDNA, they may know all of these,
but Not Like Us.
Before this was only performedone time and that was at the

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pop-up show.
That was at the pop-up show.
One, that's one thing.
So they want to be a part ofhistory.
Quote unquote.
Two he's in a lawsuit because ofthis song for defamation and
some shit with UMG that Drakefeels like he's getting, he's
getting labeled as a pedophileand then, on the same time, umg

(03:18:58):
is pushing this song better thanany other song or some shit.
So, with all that being said,people are like, oh shit, is he
gonna do it?
Oh shit, is he gonna do it?
Ah, fuck, he's done.
Squabble up, okay, that's cool.
Humble cool, dna cool, euphoriacool, peekaboo cool, luther
cool, all the stars cool.
So by that point, we're at song10 and you missed this whole

(03:19:20):
performance because you werejust looking for one song yeah,
but also in that, in that samebreath, as a to kind of in that
point.

Speaker 2 (03:19:33):
Um, you know that I guess this is where I kind of
have too much faith in theaudience, you know.
You know that song is not goingto come until the end of the
performance, you know that as anaudience member you're sitting
now and you're you're enjoying aperformance.
Most people are not going tobring out their most popular
song until the end.
I mean, are you telling meyou're going to pull out your

(03:19:56):
best moves in the beginning?
No, you're going to wait tillthe end to give off.
Give off your best moves.
You're playing spades.

Speaker 1 (03:20:02):
You're not playing big joker in the beginning,
you're playing it towards theend, when you're trying to get
all the books I mean that makessense, but at the same time, at
the same time, they weren't, sothey weren't gonna get the
symbolism already.
Because not like us, becausenot like they're waiting for,
not like us, they don't.
They don't give a fuck aboutsymbolism and, like you said,
super bowl is meant forentertainment, they're meant to
have fun and all that shit.

(03:20:23):
What got them there, like yousaid, was not like us.
So whether, if, whether, if,and that's why I was trying.
That was the point I was tryingto make.
That's why I asked you aboutNot Like Us, whether, if he put
Not Like Us, so basically forthem to get the symbolism, I
feel like he had to haveperformed Not Like Us and then
went on with the show.
That's how I felt.
That's how I felt about thesituation.

Speaker 2 (03:20:44):
No, how he did it.
He had to do it like that.
Because now, like, becausethink about it now, like because
think about it in that samebreath, you now everybody's on
the crowd, like that's when youhave the most, that's when you
have the audience's attention atlike peak, because you're
waiting for that song?

Speaker 1 (03:21:02):
no, and I get that.
But what I'm saying is they'realready not getting the
symbolism because he's notputting it all the way out there
, but at the same time, they'renot even worried about that
because they're waiting on notlike us but the thing is like as
an audience member, you knownot like us is coming, like me
personally but that's what I'msaying.
No, they don't, because he's ina.
He's in a lawsuit.
Him and umg are in a lawsuit.

(03:21:24):
That's why that.
That's why everybody's like ohshit, he's gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (03:21:28):
Yeah, that's why there's a video.
There's a video of T-Pain.

Speaker 1 (03:21:31):
He's like bro, oh shit, no, he's not going to do
it, he can't do it.
He can't do it Because he's ina lawsuit right now.
Him and UNG are in a lawsuit.
I'm sorry, go ahead, tanaka.

Speaker 3 (03:21:40):
No, no, that was the topic of this.

Speaker 2 (03:21:50):
Going into this.
That was going to do it.
I didn't do my research on it.

Speaker 1 (03:21:55):
What I heard was he confirmed that the song was
going to be played or he wasgoing to perform the song, but
that's the thing, thoughKendrick doesn't do a lot of
interviews, and the interviewshe does do he's kind of surface
level with shit that he saysHe'll talk about, like his
previous stuff or, you know, notlike, uh, not like us.

(03:22:15):
The, the beef is already done,like he's.
He's been, he's been talkingabout it and like it.
It just is what it is andwhatever.
But when it comes to shit likethis, he's not gonna say
anything about it, he's gonna doit.
You're gonna either like it orlove it and he's gonna go back
to whatever the fuck he's gonnado yeah me.

Speaker 2 (03:22:31):
I just see it as like it was gonna get performed like
bro you.
That's what got me here, bro,like you know what I mean, but
that that's what got me here aslike there's no way, like all
right, even when, like you know,I'm called upon to to perform
that song, right, there's no waythey're like okay, um, apple or

(03:22:53):
umg.
Or like there's no way that youdidn't get the okay, because,
at the end of the day, this is asong.
The reason why we want you forthe super bowl is because this,
this is a song.
This song is so popular and wonall these grammys and won all
these.

Speaker 1 (03:23:07):
So let me ask you this to feel because because I'm
not gonna lie, I don't, I don'tknow, and, tanaka, maybe you
can, maybe you can tell me ifI'm wrong or not why is it that
they chose?
Because I'm not going to lie, Idon't know, and, tanaka, maybe
you can tell me if I'm wrong ornot why is it that they chose
2025, that they choose an artistthat is big, that is super big
for that one song to do thisyear.
I've never known the Super Bowlto pick an artist for one song.

Speaker 2 (03:23:34):
Yeah, I don't know why they did it Me personally
because a lot of people werelike that was a big thing.
They were upset because theyfelt like Wayne should have been
.
Because it's not only that, I'mgoing to just stop, I'm going
to just stop you there.

Speaker 1 (03:23:45):
I'm not going to lie, I'm just going to speak this.
I'm going to speak this now.
I'm a big Wayne fan.
I'm a big Wayne fan.
There is no way in hell thatWayne would have been able to do
the Superbowl in the state thathe's in right now.
And this is the thing.
This is the thing that kind ofirks me about Wayne fans is that
they choose the oldest fuckingvideos of him and have him do it
Now.
Granted, he may have been ableto do it if they were doing,

(03:24:06):
maybe like a I don't know cash,money, millionaires or no limit
collaboration maybe, but forneto do it, bro.

Speaker 3 (03:24:16):
Little wayne is not in the state to do the fucking
super bowl and that that'sanother thing that once again
speaks to kendrick's point, thethe performance that he put on.
Like people think that's easy,that wasn't easy.
That wasn't an easy performancefor him to do.
Did you see the breath controlthat he was having?
Rapping?
He was running, walking downthe field like doing the dance

(03:24:38):
moves with the like, With nobacktrack.

Speaker 1 (03:24:41):
With no backtrack at all.

Speaker 3 (03:24:42):
That's what I'm saying, and people underrate
that, and I think that goes tothe point.
That he had, though, is that hewanted to show that hip-hop is
an art form.
That's an art form to be ableto do all that Like that takes
skill, it takes practice, and Ithink that a lot of rappers
think they could do that.
They would be done after thefirst song, like they couldn't

(03:25:03):
do stuff like that, and to haveit with that type of clarity,
spitting all those rhymes likethat, and that's where I think,
Just like Turner said, I respectWayne, I got love for Wayne, he
got hits on hits.
I get it, but would he be ableto put a performance together
like that?
Fuck, no, fuck, no.
He's already forgetting lyricsfrom his songs.

Speaker 1 (03:25:24):
His popular songs Did you know about that.

Speaker 2 (03:25:28):
Listen, I didn't say nothing about Wayne.
Oh no, I hear you Well,actually you did say something
about Wayne.

Speaker 1 (03:25:33):
That's what made me.
I'm just talking to the peopleat this point.
Bro, we all love Wayne.
Yes, we love Wayne, but Wayne,like I said, I don't know what
Kendrick does on his personaltime, but Wayne has been very
open about doing lean, aboutsmoking weed, about doing this,
about doing that.
He might be clean now, I don'tknow, but you can obviously tell

(03:25:54):
his body has taken a toll fromhis past decisions.
And him, bro, we at that pointwe just been, would have been
listening to a record.

Speaker 3 (03:26:03):
at that point we just would have been listening to a
backtrack because don't get mewrong, I've seen wayne live and
he and it was good, but I feellike that was more so off the
popularity of the songs asopposed to actually the
technicality of his performanceand for it to be a 15-minute set

(03:26:24):
, that pretty much has to betight-knit all the way through.
I don't see him doing that.

Speaker 1 (03:26:33):
Wayne, definitely going to have a couple guests
for sure.

Speaker 3 (03:26:36):
Exactly, you know, and I feel like you know, I get
it.
I understand Everybody's likeit's New Orleans, this, that and
the third, I get it.
You did, but at the end of theday, you know, I just didn't see
that happening.
You, you know, I just didn'tsee that happening.

Speaker 1 (03:26:53):
You feel me and how many.
How many guests, cause I didn'twatch the Rihanna one.
How many guests does she haveon hers?

Speaker 3 (03:26:57):
She did it all solo but she's also a pop star.
You know, like did the weekenddo a solo too.

Speaker 2 (03:27:09):
Um, I don't remember that one wasn't memorable to me.

Speaker 1 (03:27:12):
Um, it was only memorable to me.
It was only memorable to mebecause that man blew $7 million
for that fucking performance.

Speaker 2 (03:27:18):
That's the only reason why it's memorable to me.

Speaker 1 (03:27:19):
I didn't watch it at all.

Speaker 2 (03:27:21):
Yeah, no, that's the lowest rated, lowest viewed
halftime Super Bowl in history.

Speaker 1 (03:27:28):
And he blew $7 million.
He spit $7 million.

Speaker 2 (03:27:33):
I don't, I don't know .
I can't imagine, like I, hemight have had a feature.
I'm not completely sure.
I don't know.
But like it wasn't memorable tome.
I know Rihanna's, I knowRihanna's.
Rihanna's did it solo.

Speaker 1 (03:27:48):
Yeah, shout out to Rihanna.

Speaker 3 (03:27:53):
But yeah, no, that shout out to.

Speaker 1 (03:27:53):
Rihanna.
But yeah, no, that, but the way, the way that I look at it, man
, and she was pregnant, not tomention that as well.

Speaker 3 (03:27:57):
I don't think Kendrick's goal was to, kind of
like, get everyone to understandhis message.
I think that the goal was todeliver the message on that
platform and the folks that weregoing to get it were going to
get it, and if they didn't getit, they didn't get it.

(03:28:18):
But then also the middle peoplewho maybe didn't quite
understand it but then gotinvolved in the discussions and
you know, saying, on second,look and talk to people.
I think that was really hisfocus because he already knows
that it's going to be a divideyou feel me between two people,
but he was focused on thatmiddle of people who may be

(03:28:41):
curious you know I'm saying andmay not fully understand or may
not be in the spaces to havethat type of conversation, but
because it happened followingthe performance, they start to
have the conversation about it,and those are the people that I
think that he was trying tofocus on yeah, and that's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (03:28:59):
So that's why I feel like it was.
It was just kind of like a tapin a pool, like it was just boom
.

Speaker 2 (03:29:05):
That's it and that's who you were trying to.
You know, send the message tothen those, because I consider
myself those people in themiddle, people like me shouldn't
have to go to social media tocatch most of that message.

(03:29:26):
But that was the point.
That was the point.

Speaker 1 (03:29:28):
That was the point you were supposed to, because
the lord knows that you weregoing to go to social media and
you were going to find outbecause it was on the Super Bowl
.

Speaker 2 (03:29:35):
Yeah, but and that's my point on that stage, that
message.

Speaker 1 (03:29:40):
No, but, but.
But, philip, that was the point, is it?
It wasn't supposed to be, itwasn't supposed to be, ok, so
here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (03:29:47):
Right.

Speaker 1 (03:29:48):
And I think I'm starting.
I think I'm getting a littlebit, a little bit.
It wasn't because you, being inthe middle, that's fine Wasn't
supposed to be you going.
Oh, I'm going to go see whatKendrick wants to go.
He doesn't give a fuck abouthow you feel.
He knows that you're going togo to social media.
One because it's the Super Bowl.
Two, because there was amessage sent out and he knows

(03:30:08):
he's symbolizing everything.
So he's not worried about ifyou give a fuck about it or not.
He just knows what's gonnahappen is that every somebody's
gonna the conversation is gonnabe had and the message is gonna
get put out by everybody else.
He doesn't it.
And I don't know.
I'm not, I'm not speaking forkendrick.
I don't know, but I don't thinkhe cares about if you like it

(03:30:29):
or not.
He just knows that you're gonnaget the message.

Speaker 2 (03:30:32):
He doesn't care how you get the message you're gonna
get the message and in in mypushback to all of that is like
okay then like why do it?
Why send the message if ifyou're not only a select few are
supposed to get it becausebecause people are supposed to
send your message instead ofjust having no, just having

(03:30:53):
collectively, uh, like as manypeople can get it as possible,
like that's my whole thing.

Speaker 1 (03:31:00):
That's kindred philip , that's, that's dumbing it down
.
That's literally the definitionof exactly and that's my whole
point.

Speaker 2 (03:31:07):
If that, if you're sending a message, what I'm
saying is if you're sending amessage, it needs to be clear
and concise, especially on thatstage.

Speaker 3 (03:31:16):
On that, stage, but but 20 that.

Speaker 1 (03:31:18):
That would be asking him to not be himself I'm not
saying well and honestly and andthat's I mean, that's something
I don't know, that's something,uh, that's something a rookie,
that's something a rookie persondo.
Kendrick has put in enough timethat he doesn't have to do that
.
That's why Good Kid Mad Citysounds the way it sounds,
because he had a lot of peoplebehind him that was like hey,

(03:31:41):
you got to do this, this, this,this.
That's why poetic justice is athing.

Speaker 2 (03:31:44):
He wouldn't have did that on the first deal, that's
how you could tell the secondalbum sounds the way it sounds?
Because he, he had enough trustin his record, his record label
had enough trust in him for he.
They were like you know what,go do your thing.
So, okay, let me ask you this,and then I gotta head out soon.
Um, so let me ask you this.
So when, when you hear, whenyou hear me say dumb it down,

(03:32:08):
what exactly?
How do you perceive that?

Speaker 1 (03:32:13):
so I I see what you're saying when I say dumb it
down.
It has like a negative.
What is it?

Speaker 3 (03:32:20):
Negative connotation.

Speaker 1 (03:32:21):
Yeah, negative connotation to it, but like
that's it's, like it's not.
You're not actually saying dumbit down.
You're like just saying you'resaying like the nice way of
saying dumb it down.
You're like just saying you'resaying like the nice way of
saying dumb it down what I'msaying.

Speaker 2 (03:32:35):
Well, so in a sense I'm what I'm saying is your
message yeah, make it more clearyeah, exactly dumb it down,
yeah so, okay, okay so here'swhat I want you to do.

Speaker 1 (03:32:45):
I want you to, and I I really need you to do this.
I want you, when you're driving, I want you to go listen to a
song by lupe Fiasco called DummyDown.
Go listen to that.
I just want you to listen tothat song and you may get a
better idea of where we'recoming from, type shit.
You may or may not, I don'tknow, but in a sense like here's

(03:33:08):
the thing.

Speaker 2 (03:33:15):
I understand your point because I had the same
conversation with someone atwork today.
She was like pretty much um youcan't, you can't ask kendrick
to change who he is and how hedelivers his message.
And my point, my challenge tothat point, is on that stage,
you have to, especially on thatstage, with the message that
you're trying to stage.
You have to, especially on thatstage with the message that

(03:33:35):
you're trying to send you haveto.

Speaker 1 (03:33:37):
You sound like the white man, tony.
Oh god, no but that's what I'msaying that's exactly what the
white man was okay so let me askyou this who made that rule
that you have to do that?

Speaker 2 (03:33:50):
okay, maybe have to is a little bit, maybe have to
is a little bit strong, but youhave to.
Who made, who made that ruleshould or have to who made that,
and that's another thing.

Speaker 1 (03:34:02):
And you know what's crazy about that?
It's crazy.
You talk about the rule ofhip-hop hip-hop, like he said,
dope beats, dope track, all thatstuff.
But you know what, though?
You know what?
You know what the foundation ofhip-hop was found on.
There are no rules.
Do what you want.
That's be you, that's that's.
That's that's why hip hop wasable to evolve into other
different shit, like jersey clubmusic and melodic rapping and

(03:34:25):
all that type of stuff, becausethat's what hip-hop was founded
on is there is no rules.

Speaker 2 (03:34:30):
Do what you want to do definitely and, and, and.
I get it once again.
I do, but what?
I'm saying with disregard yousaid before yeah, my thing is
this, like what and?
And this is just me, just andthat's and that's and that's the
thing I'm.

Speaker 1 (03:34:46):
I don't.
I don't want to cut you offbecause that's disrespectful,
I'm sorry.
What I will say is this theseare more personal.
Like I can't, I can't tell youhow to feel.
I I get you feel like it shouldhave been clearer.
You felt like that I I can'ttell Kendrick Lamar hey, bro,
you should, hey, can you?
Can you tell me?
I can't.
Like I understand what you'resaying and I wish it was clear

(03:35:07):
too.
Fuck, I wish I would have beenable to get the information like
just right there, him to justsay, hey, what I was trying to
say is fuck, donald Trump, likeI.
Yeah, I wish, I wish I wouldhave been able to get the
information like just rightthere, him just say, hey, what I
was trying to say is fuckDonald Trump?

Speaker 2 (03:35:15):
Like yeah, I wish, no , no, no.
Let me tell you what it's like.
Right, I'm listening.
Remember, you know I mean backin the day you used to say
pussyfooting.

Speaker 1 (03:35:27):
Yeah, definitely pussyfooting, alright cool.

Speaker 2 (03:35:29):
So, like you telling me, you're looking across from
your wife right, looking acrossfrom my wife, right, you're
looking across from your wifeRight how you doing.

Speaker 1 (03:35:40):
No, you're not saying baby, oh, no, baby.
You're not saying that oh fuck,because you pussyfoot, because
you pussyfoot, oh, okay, right,alright.

Speaker 2 (03:35:46):
So you're just like you know hey how you doing today
.
I'm good, it's good.
It's a good day, you know it'sa good day out.
Sun is shining.
Sun is shining right.
You know what I mean, you knowyou post any pictures on
Instagram today.

Speaker 1 (03:36:00):
Some small talk.

Speaker 2 (03:36:01):
You post any pictures on Instagram today Anybody any,
you know got any likes, stufflike that Right All the while
you pretty much you know in thebackground.
What you're pretty much sayingis you look like, if I'm going
to take it to photography, youlook good, you look like you
need a photo session, you're sobeautiful, but you're hiding it

(03:36:27):
behind you pussyfooting because,you're on.
Have you taken pictures yet ofyourself today?
Have you posted it?
Has anybody led you anycomments when you really want to
say yo, you should postyourself, take a picture, post
yourself and have people tellyou that you're beautiful,

(03:36:49):
instead of saying and I'm notsaying, you got to go that
extreme or you know what I meanin a sense.
Okay, I'm listening.
If you're following, I'mlistening, right.
I'm listening Right.
What I'm saying is, like youknow what I mean Pretty much
saying what's wrong with you.
Know you look good today.
Let me take a picture of youreal fast.
Oh, and what I'm saying is howI felt about the halftime show

(03:37:13):
was have you taken a picture ofyourself today?

Speaker 1 (03:37:17):
He was pussyfoot Versus he was pussyfoot and I'm
not saying yo, you got that shiton.

Speaker 2 (03:37:24):
Why, in the A, let me hit this,this, and that I'm trying to
put a ring on you.
I'm not saying all of that, butyou know a little bit more.
You looking good today.
You know, let me take a pictureof you.
You know, tell you, you know,in the midst of the photo shoot.
Oh, you looking beautiful.

(03:37:44):
You working that dress, this,this and that, Like that's what
I'm saying.
Closer to that, to the pointwhere you know maybe she could
miss it, but if she's for youshe's going to catch.
Oh, he's flirting with meVersus her, where she's
pussyfooting is okay.

(03:38:04):
He's asking me if I took apicture of myself today that I
posted.

Speaker 1 (03:38:12):
So what you're saying is symbolism is pussyfooting.

Speaker 2 (03:38:15):
No, what I'm saying is the symbolism that was
represented, in my opinion, waspussyfooting with the message
that he was trying to send.
That's what I'm saying, andwhat I'm saying is in that
symbolism.
Make it more clear and concise.

Speaker 1 (03:38:33):
so kendrick, basically your pussy, and that's
not what I said.

Speaker 2 (03:38:38):
That's not what I said.

Speaker 1 (03:38:39):
Get the shit off your chest stop being such a bitch
and just tell us what we want tosay.
That's not what I said.

Speaker 2 (03:38:47):
Fucking bitch ass nigga what I'm saying is this
what I'm saying is In yoursymbolism and that's pretty much
everything in the background.
I'm not even talking about how.
Like I said, I have no issueswith the songs that were
performed.
That's not my issue.
My issue is In the symbolism.

(03:39:08):
It wasn't clear and conciseenough for that girl To
understand that oh, he'sflirting with me but yet but,
but at the same time, um, I justokay.

Speaker 1 (03:39:23):
So, um, I don't know.
Symbolism to the yeah, yougotta give me a second to
dissect that one.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:39:35):
I don't know about 20 .
I think his objective is tochallenge the audience to think.

Speaker 2 (03:39:47):
No, here's my thing, right.

Speaker 1 (03:39:49):
That's not the place to do it.
No, no, no, I'm not saying.

Speaker 3 (03:39:52):
So that's Tonic's, not the place to do it.
That's that's.
I'm not saying that was sothat's tonic's, that's tonic's
combat to that point.
That's not the place to do it.

Speaker 2 (03:39:58):
No, no no no no, no that's me, I'm not, I'm not
gonna go as far as tonic and sayum you can't challenge the
audience to think there'snothing wrong with the making,
challenging the audience andthink what I'm saying is this
even when you're taking apicture, you're taking pictures
of that girl.
I'm sorry, I'm into photographynow, but taking pictures, oh,

(03:40:20):
you're working it, this, this,and that you're planting so many
seeds in her head to the pointwhere she's like, is he?
Flirting with me?
Is he flirting with me?
oh, he's flirting with me or youknow, he's flirting with me by
telling me this.
He's flirting with me bytelling me this.
He's flirting with me bytelling me that, to the point
where she knows I'm not sayinglike, yeah, get that shit out of

(03:40:42):
here.
We're not here for, we're hereto be entertained.
And.
I can.
I understand Tonic's view.
Like with history, it's aboutentertainment, it's not about
you know a pop quiz, but see myissue with the tonic thing.

Speaker 3 (03:40:57):
I know that's not your stance,you know what I'm saying.
My issue with the tonic thing,though, is like that's like,
yeah, black performer, go outand dance for me.
Like that's basically what I'mgetting from that it's pretty
much like shut up and drip.
Yeah, like, you know I'm sayinglike, but I'm not going.

(03:41:18):
That's, that's.
That's literally whatkendrick's trying to fight in
the system.
You know I'm saying so.
That's why I can't get behindwhat tonic's saying, because
it's like I get, that's whatyou're used to.
But if Kendrick's always beenabout deconstructing the system
to create a more A country thatbetter understands the

(03:41:41):
perspective and struggles youknow what I'm saying Then he has
to.
He has to do it that way, likeit can't be based off of old,
traditional ways.
If that's the system that he'strying to break down and dissect
for people to realize andunderstand the true meaning of
why he's speaking, on what he'sspeaking on, and and and to that

(03:42:04):
, and I would disagree withtonic on the point of dance boy,
yeah, because you, like youknow what I mean, like you know
that's what in, you know, justso, like on the way out, we can
all kind of be on the same side,right.

Speaker 1 (03:42:23):
When it comes to.

Speaker 2 (03:42:24):
Tonics Point.
That's what got him there.
So you can't tell a person dosomething like this other artist
.
That's like telling me to DJlike DJ Ham.
That's not what got me to whereI'm at as far as a DJ, you
can't tell me.
Or you can't tell Kendrick toperform like Rihanna.

(03:42:46):
That's not what got him there.
For you to say that, one, Idon't know how to how to do that
and two, they, they're, theychose me to be me as an artist.
So if this is my, this is how Ilike, if this is my artistry,

(03:43:09):
then this is what I going toperform, because not only I know
how to do it, but you know whatI mean.
This is what got me here.
Like these songs is what got mehere.
You know, like, damn theentertainment.
If it's not entertaining to you, then it is what it is, but
this is what got me here.

(03:43:29):
So this is how I'm going toperform and this is how I'm
going to go about it.
So yes, in that sense.
I do agree with that, like, youknow what I mean, don't I'm not
going to dumb it down to thepoint where these, you know I
mean like the, these five yearolds, you know don't completely

(03:43:52):
understand the history of racismand all of that and DEI and all
of that to the point for themto understand and have a big old
party and this, this and that.
No, what got me here was mycomplexity, my lyricism, my
symbolism, my everything that Ido.
So I'm going to showcase thaton the biggest stage.

(03:44:16):
So when it comes against Sonic,I do like we are all on the
same side.

Speaker 3 (03:44:27):
Except with Sonic, is what you're saying.
Yeah, no, he's saying we're allon the same side with the dance
boy?

Speaker 2 (03:44:33):
we don't yeah yeah, I don't, I don't believe, like me
personally, like I said, I feellike that was a solid
performance, now that Iunderstand it, now that I
understand, like the backstorybehind it, now that I understand
but I the vision and the thegoal behind it.

Speaker 3 (03:44:48):
That was a solid performance yeah, but I think
once again once again yeah, onceagain, turnip just spoke on it.
The point of this whole thingwas to have the discussion.
Yeah, okay, and you had thediscussion, even though you
didn't understand it the firsttime.

Speaker 1 (03:45:03):
You don't understand it, you don't like it.
He doesn't care about theemotion that comes with it, he
just wants the conversation tobe had.

Speaker 3 (03:45:11):
The question is was the message delivered?
And it was no matter whether ornot you were entertained or not
.

Speaker 1 (03:45:17):
Basically, you ever watch the Hangover.
Yeah, I watch the Hangover, butdid you die?
That's basically it.
That's basically the situation.
Kendrick is like, okay, but didyou die?
That's what I feel like thesituation is.
No, that's what I feel like thesituation is.

Speaker 2 (03:45:32):
No, and me personally , if I'm not someone who cared
to go to social media or who'snot on social media or anything
like that, that's kind ofdisconnected.
I'm that girl.

Speaker 1 (03:45:49):
And I'm just like yeah, I just had this weird
interaction with this guy.
Yeah, but okay, let's addcontext to you not being on
social media.
You've been not being on socialmedia, not you per se, but like
in this day and age, if you'renot on social media is a little
weird.

Speaker 3 (03:46:00):
Like, even if you're not like, even if you're not
like really active, like you'reat least a little bit on social
media, like my mom and mystepdad are on social media but
my, my mom and my dad are not,and if they and they my thing,
my thing is they didn'tunderstand my thing is this,
though, is that, even if they'renot on social media, right,

(03:46:22):
they probably had folks thatother folks that was talking
about it, and they probably hadthe discussion that way, in
person.
You know, I'm saying soregardless of whether you got
the information through socialmedia, whether you got it
through a conversation amongstyour friends, your peers, like
the conversation was still beinghad regardless, and that's the
point I have brought up to.

Speaker 1 (03:46:42):
Uh, tonic, I forgot what we were talking about and
it was um, we're talking aboutbarbershop talk.
Barbershop and nail salon talk.
Like folks like to act likesocial media was like the first
time folks were doing that likeno, that was nail salon, that's
like nail salon, barbershop talkoh, that fucking kendrick, that
shit was so ass.
Hey, but did you?
But did you?
Oh no, but you can't say that.
You know, hey, did you knowthis?

(03:47:03):
Did you notice that?
A minor chain, that?
Or like just a little shit likethat, like, yeah, that
conversation happens what'scrazy is that a A chain is
apparently a PG lane.
Apparently, it's a whole bunchof double entendres to that
fucking chain.
Apparently, there's a lot goingon with that chain.
Well, sir, do you have anythingelse to say?

(03:47:24):
Because it looked like you wereready to go.
No, I got to wrap it up.
I got to wrap it up.

Speaker 2 (03:47:30):
As much as I enjoyed the conversation, I do got to
wrap it up.
Like I said, photography isn'tthe new hustle, so I got to go
do someone's birthday show.

Speaker 1 (03:47:42):
All right, Well cool.
Would you like to tell thepeople listening?

Speaker 2 (03:47:45):
20E photos underscore .
That's 20EPHOTOS underscore Ifyou need your photos taken.
Lifestyle, if you're a privatechef, I do food photography as

(03:48:07):
well, real estate, anything likethat.
Just you know, follow me, dm meand we're going to get you
right.
We're going to get the picturesthat you want.
And if you don't know who I amalready underscore DJ20, and
then go into my follows.
I follow myself, thephotographer, and you can just

(03:48:29):
look up 20 photos and I'mworking with budgets.
I don't know for how long, butI am working with budgets
because I'm getting started.
You can look at my portfolioWebsite's attached to the link
in the bio.
Hope to see you guys there.

Speaker 1 (03:48:45):
Cool.
Well, we're going to wrap thisup with the scheduling To
piggyback Fox said that it washis song.

Speaker 3 (03:48:58):
Wipe Me Down was his song.

Speaker 1 (03:49:01):
I'm glad you brought that up, because I'm not going
to lie.

Speaker 3 (03:49:03):
Boosie had reached out to him and was like, hey, he
was up with Asylum at the time.
He said hey, man, we doing thislittle album and we need a
single.
Is it cool?
If you know me and Webby, hopon, you know, make that the
single.
And he said cool.
And he said they're like we'regoing to pay you like this check
and this check, and theneverybody will get one.

(03:49:24):
So he got two checks off thesong and it's that was it.
And he been paid ever since.

Speaker 1 (03:49:32):
He's been paid Like he's getting more checks off of
this.

Speaker 3 (03:49:35):
Yeah, oh, okay.
So he's like everybody, paidLike everybody good.

Speaker 1 (03:49:41):
See, and that's why I'm okay with that.
Okay, hold on, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (03:49:47):
That's why he don't really feel like the need to
talk about it, because, like,yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:49:53):
When was that article made?

Speaker 3 (03:49:58):
Let me see that Two years ago.

Speaker 1 (03:50:07):
Oh, that's beautiful.
That's fairly recent.
Beautiful.
That is good to know.
Well, like I said, um, beforewe get into the scheduling, like
I said, I just wanted to givemoroses to fox because not a lot
of people, you know,acknowledge him for his song,
and I feel like they should,even though boozy has the
spelling part, and that's whatpeople gravitate towards.
Um, but yeah, so, uh, yeah,we're gonna get to this.

(03:50:30):
Uh schedule, like I say on allthe other ones, um, oh, that's
my phone.
Um, if you want to know whereI'm gonna be at, my schedule is
on my instagram and my twitter.
Y'all go ahead and uh follow meon instagram dj, turn up
t-u-u-r-n-u-u-p.
With dj in front of it I don'tremember if I said that or not.

(03:50:50):
And then twitter is the samething, just with the turn up on
it.
Just, no, dj, uh, tanaka, whereyou gonna be at uh, we talking
about the march schedule?

Speaker 3 (03:51:03):
uh, yeah, I don't.
I don't have my march scheduleas of right now.
You know I'm saying, but youcould follow me at dj tanaka I.
I got my skate videography atShot by Tanaka, shot by
T-A-N-A-K-A.
Follow me there and just staytuned, check my notes, because

(03:51:26):
that's usually where I post,where I be at, and Big 2-0,.
Man, it was a pleasure havingyou know what I'm saying, a
fellow delinquent out, so youdig.
Pleasure being here, pleasurebeing.
You know I'm saying uh, djneshea has called.
Did you want to say what's upto the tnc podcast?

Speaker 1 (03:51:46):
bro, you should got all the guests coming in today
yeah, I know right um podcastpeople, I guess, hello is there
uh anything that?

Speaker 3 (03:51:55):
you just cut that part out, just cut it out.
Why would you answer the phonewhile you're still recording?
Uh, because you're calling myphone and you were over here
upset about text last night, soyou know oh, just call me back.

Speaker 1 (03:52:08):
I was just calling to ask you about a song that I
can't figure out.
What?

Speaker 3 (03:52:11):
it is.
Go ahead and ask the song.

Speaker 1 (03:52:13):
You got three DJs here.

Speaker 3 (03:52:15):
Yeah, you got three DJs.

Speaker 1 (03:52:17):
Okay, so I know it's the Weeknd and it goes the bass
line is Earned it, that's earnedit what?
Is it Earned it?
When are you playing that song?
That song is slow as fuck.

Speaker 2 (03:52:36):
I couldn't freaking remember it.

Speaker 1 (03:52:37):
Yeah, all right, thanks.
Love you guys.
Uh-huh Bye.
Why the hell would you playthat song?
That song is like 30.
That song is like 30.

Speaker 3 (03:52:48):
She probably want to play it with a slow set song,
probably, she probably want toplay with a slow set, probably
want to play it in the freak offroom.

Speaker 1 (03:52:56):
Did you finish yours?
I don't remember if youfinished yours or not.
February, no March.

Speaker 3 (03:53:02):
I don't know my dates in March Do you have anything.
Not to my knowledge, but yeah,man you uh big.
So did you uh get anunderstanding?
Uh, did we get somestraightening out in regards to

(03:53:23):
the whole kenny lamar and allthat?

Speaker 2 (03:53:24):
man, it's been understood as long as look is
there, is there has there been alittle bit?

Speaker 1 (03:53:30):
has there been a little has?

Speaker 3 (03:53:31):
there anything okay been a little bit?
Has there anything Okay?
Has there been?

Speaker 2 (03:53:33):
No, I understand, Like walking into this
conversation, I understand.

Speaker 1 (03:53:36):
So all this stuff that we told you, you already
understood.

Speaker 3 (03:53:38):
Yeah, I was about to say so nothing has changed.
So there was nothing new thatwe enlightened you to from what
we said.

Speaker 2 (03:53:46):
No, me personally.
I just came with a challenge.
That's all Great, that's allgreat.
So, okay, what's your schedulefor march?
March?
I don't.
I don't really have much goingon on march.
You just gotta stay tuned.
Um, I still do dj, so just youknow, check me out at underscore
dj 20 um check out my latestprojects on 20 photos and my

(03:54:07):
website link in the bio for 20photos.
So that's what I got going on.

Speaker 1 (03:54:13):
Alright, so that was the TNT podcast.
Y'all TNT and T Tonic Tonic.
Why do I keep calling it tonicTanaka?
Turn up 20, we'll see y'all onthe flip side.
Thank you, outro Music.

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