Hip-Hop Through the Decades: A Veteran's Perspective

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Speaker 1 (00:45):
All right, ladies and gentlemen we are back.
Tnt Podcast.
Please excuse me, this is fromCookout last night.
Very interesting, veryinteresting couple, very
interesting couple days, to saythe least.
Dj Turned Up DJ Tanaka, and wehave a special guest in the
building, mr LeRonn, aka MrRovira t-shirts.

(01:08):
Did I say it right?
This time you got it there.
We go alright.
Cool Rovira t-shirts checkingin with us how you doing good,
sir, doing alright doing alright.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Pleasure to have you aboard.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I remember, I remember when you asked I was
like wow, wow I didn't know youwanted to be a part of it, but
shout out to you for wanting tobe a part of our little mama pop
podcast.
Yeah man, yeah Tanaka.
How are you doing, sir?

Speaker 4 (01:40):
It's been a rough go, but we still soldiering on.
Sir, you did.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I hear that that's all we rough go, but we still
soldiering on.
I hear that.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
That's all we can do, man.
I already anticipated thatallergy season was going to come
full-fledged with haymakers.
Then we had to add in the skatestuff too skate injuries as
well.
It's more of a challenge, butit's all good though.
Then we had to add in the skatestuff too Skate injuries as
well.
So you know more of a challengebut it's, all good, though
Still a lot of chill breathing.
You hear me.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
We trying.
I'm actually surprised that Ididn't get hit with nothing yet.
I usually get hit withsomething.
Now, honestly, when I wasyounger, I didn't get hit with
spring allergies or anythinglike that?
Do y'all get hit with anyallergies or anything?
I just deal with it.
Probably have, but I justhandle it.
I've never had that issue.
Maybe it's because of thedifferent climate I'm from

(02:37):
California, maybe it's justdifferent climate and all that
other stuff.
Alright.
So Tanaka question Is episode 3of the new era of the TNT
podcast, not the first and the15th.
How are you feeling aboutJanuary, February, March, April,

(03:00):
Like the once a month thing?
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 4 (03:03):
How's it feel the once a month thing or just you
talk about in general, likeeverything that's been going on
we do both and I can actuallysay, yeah, as a matter of fact.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, we do the once a month, and then we can do the
once a month thing, not a once amonth things, cool.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
I feel like it's uh, you know, it's little who's busy
, like before, we're stressing alittle bit a lot more, you know
, but now we um, it's, it's alot easier for so just just
because all the stuff that we'reworking on like behind the
scenes that people don't knowabout you know what I'm saying
so yeah but, um, I'm glad westill able to have the talk,

(03:40):
though you know what I'm sayingI feel like it's important to
have to talk, though you knowwhat I'm saying.
Right, I feel like it'simportant to have that kind of
check in and see where we atmentally as far as like what we
got going, yeah.
So yeah, I like it, though,okay.
I like it and I like having aguest every, you know you know
what I'm saying?
Every episode, yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, man, yeah, because we've been backed up on
guests for it feels like yearsnow.
So, yeah, shout out to us ableto roll with the guests every
episode.
But, tanaka, you're good withthe questions, so you got any

(04:20):
questions for our guests?

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Man LeRonn, yeah, so just where were you born and
raised?
You know?
Just kind of break it down tous.
You know what your upbringingwas, you know what I'm saying
and how, and once you getthrough with that, tell us.
You know when you came toGeorgia and everything alright
well for me.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
This goes back, you know.
So I'm born and raised Bronx,new York, bronx, new York, bx,
all day already Yankees fan.
But you know, it's all good, Itravel a lot.
I'm a military veteran, retired20 years.
So pretty much how I came toGeorgia, I was stationed here at

(04:59):
Fort Benning, which is inColumbus, georgia.
So being that I was stationedthere, I kind of liked it and
everything.
Then I was getting close to myretirement, so then I had left,
went across the river to Alabamaside and then ended up coming
back to Georgia with me and mywife.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
Got you, got you what inspired you to go to the
military.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
More back then, you know from the 90s.
So it was more like because ofBoys in the Hood, that kind of
was in my mindset.
I did want to go to college,which I did.
Do you know one term of it inArizona, but from then I was
like nah, go in Between what wasit?

(05:41):
Boys in the Hood and what wasthat on there there 106th and
Park, that's where it kind offlow in.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
I feel that, I feel that did did you have any family
that was military?

Speaker 3 (05:56):
one of my uncles was.
He was in Vietnam, so Iremember you know he had this
album.
It was not an album like musicalbum, but it was like, I guess,
the story to be told of whatwas going on over there.
So he's like the only one in myfamily.
But other than that it was likea choice.
You know wanted to go tocollege.
You know to be a football playerbecause, as you know, I was a

(06:17):
football you know what position,where, what position oh now,
even when I was little, I wentfrom being a strong safety to
running back, and then, when Iwent to high school, I was
always the one in VAR.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
I didn't even hit JV.
You said strong safety.
You was laying that wood down.
You was like coming down.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
I was a beast, then you were very important.
So from there I graduated highschool and then went to college.
You know I went to DeVry.
You know what I'm saying.
Even though I went to DeVry, Ishould have went to one here in
Georgia, but I went to one inArizona.
But being out there in Arizona,you know, then the military was
more, you know, more focused onyou know, something to do.

(07:01):
You know I had, you know, achild at that time.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah on, you know something to do, you know, have
you know a child at that time?
Yeah, I know a lot of folks Ispoke to that been to the
military that said how importantthe discipline it was, like it
helped them kind of like gettheir life in order oh yeah boy,
boy, boy.
Stories on top of stories I feelthat what uh, what was the role
that you played when, when youwere in the military and stuff
um, as far as like the military,I came in, as you know, in the
military and stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
As far as like the military, I came in, as you know
, e1.
I came out as a sergeant, firstclass Gotcha, so pretty much
you know the job I was.
I was, you know, army.
First of all.
I was Philadelphia Army.
For those who may know whatthat is, I started as a 13th
Bravo, then I went to 13th Romeoand I'm sorry to hit y'all with
the nomenclatures, that's justhow we talk.

(07:45):
I have a certain way that Italk and I try to you know, not
go too in-.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Nah, but you know.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
So yeah, I was like you know, when I got out I was
like a star in first class.
I had a charge of platoons, dida lot of things, met a lot of
interesting people, people.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
I can imagine that's people from all over, all
different walks of life andbackgrounds.
So what'd you listen tomusic-wise coming up in the
Bronx man.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Now, when you say hip-hop, now, like I said,
k-r-s-1.
He held the VX down andeverything.
Blah, blah, blah.
My era Brooklyn started to riseup.
Then you had Staten Islandstart to come up big time, then

(08:33):
Queens, of course, you know whatI'm saying.
It's like each borough hadtheir own spots.
Me being from the Bronx, Istayed with a lot of the Bronx
legends that came up, likeAfrican men by the head, other
man, other people, stuff likethat.
Um, as far as like what welistened to, like I said we was
really, when I was back home inthe Bronx, I was a New York.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Hey, as you can see, as you can see, but you know but
.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
I'm humble and I'm mellow.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
So let me ask you this so was it like territorial,
where you would only listen toonly Bronx, like artists or did
it matter back then.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
like I said, you know , because I graduated high
school in 93, so we'll say from90 to 93 era.
You know it was more.
You know people that came inthe Bronx and everything, but at
the same time the West Coastwas starting to come.
That's when NWA dropped.
So that kind of came big Peoplewas really feeling it.
People was kind of like, ohRight, I was wearing all black.

(09:34):
You know LA Kings, you know inmy Raiders jacket, because one
of the teams that I played on itwas called Eastchester Raiders.
So you know that was the way toget into that, like that.
But really the different erasreally started when I got into
the military service.
So I started meeting peoplefrom different places and then
they got to put me on differentthings.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, what was the first hip-hop song that you
heard?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
The classic one, the Sugar Hill Gang, and then from
there, like I said, carat Restwhen the bridge is over.
And when that come on, I justdo something to it.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
So paint a picture for me.
Where were you at?
How did you hear this?
Did somebody play the song?
Was it on the radio?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, for back then which is crazy for me growing up
, the big thing was tapes yougot you.
Remember we was doing cassettetapes so I remember staying up.
This is when Hot 97 wasn't evenon the radio.
It was a pirate station.
So I went from putting twofingers in my thing because I
broke the pause and recordbutton Right, right, the record

(10:45):
and play button, excuse me andthen the pause button.
I broke the play and the recordbutton so I had to push my
finger up.
So anytime when they starttalking on the radio or the
commercials, I would pause it.
And then when it go back, I didsomething.
I used to master stuff.
I was good at taking thingsapart and putting it back
together.
Wow.
So back then you knoweverything that was on the radio

(11:06):
.
So like Hot 97 wasn't aspopular that it is now.
So when Flex was on back then,you know, then you had like DJ
Red Alert and all that.
So a lot of the club scenesthat they were playing was big
Right.
And then also Nas was comingout.
And then also Nas was comingout now, back in 93.

(11:26):
94 is when I left New York togo into the military, and then
that's when Wu-Tang.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
So Wu-Tang was like my all time for some that's
funny that you say that becauseI have a similar story that I
had my CD Walkman and the.
You know that there's like alittle this little hinge that
kind of keeps the cd closed.
That had broke and apparently Ididn't realize that there's

(11:54):
like a sensor that it crosses toallow the cd to play.
So what I had to do was I hadto get the edge of an eraser
from a pencil, I had to put iton this button and I had to keep
it on that sensor like this,and I had to wrap a rubber band
around it to listen to my musicin order for it to work.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
We call that Jerry Ring, jerry Ring all day, but
you get it to work.
Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
I'm saying Make it happen.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Make it happen.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, man make it happen.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
So let me ask you this.
So you said the first time youwere listening to I forgot what
song you were talking about, butit's just interesting.
You said that the first hip hopsong you heard was the Rapper's
Delight.
Right, so what was, what was?
Do you remember the first timeyou heard that song and did it?
Did it feel different, sincehip hop wasn't a thing yet?

(12:42):
Like what was the?
How did you, where were youwhen you heard it?
Like, what was your feelingabout it?
Like how did you?

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Well, most of the music you know, like I said, you
hear on the block, so you knoweverybody used to carry their
radio, so the thing was abouthaving the boom box.
So, yeah, we had a crew of usand all we did was walk around
with radios in our hand andstuff.
So when we in the park, soeverything like a lot of the new
songs that you hear when we outin the court playing.
You know what I'm saying?
I did play a little basketball,but I wasn't that good.

(13:09):
I was the, the fat, the, howyou know, the hack man.
That was my job.
All I do was, yeah, I didn'tshoot.
All, hey, you go ahead.
So you know like when?
you hear that sugar hill gay,it's like, hey boss, hit it.
It was more like a party.
So it was more of a party sceneto us coming up, you know, even

(13:31):
though it was still new, but itwas like okay, and then, you
know, we kind of felt like itrepresented.
But then when we heard thebridges old from keros one, it
made the big difference, andthat's when he had the beef with
um queens, because you know wedidn't, you know, the Bronx had
they style, queens had theystyle that's a Shan right,
correct, mc Shan?
yeah, right, so you know.

(13:51):
So that falls into, you know,the Roxanne beef, roxanne Shante
, even though I love her todeath now she on the radio, she,
I rock for her too, yeah, butyeah, it was like back then, um,
a lot of the songs, you know,because, believe it or not, let
me back up to this part, to now,you know, even though I said,
of course, when he got tours,you know, kara's didn't this

(14:13):
group, you know was I'm Tim doghad came out.
So you know he always he was,you know, shot now the Bronx
word in his songs when he wastalking about, you know, f
Compton and everything.
But that would just be in hardheads because that was our thing
, boy.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
New York.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Very interesting side of theworld.
Boy, they was real.
They did not have a thing,nothing else.
So let me ask you this how didyou feel about?
Because at one point they hadbooed OutKast and I feel like,
just as a young person, I'm likewhy would anybody, I don't know
, I feel like that's one ofthose things.

(14:48):
Did they feel like because theyweren't from New York?
That it's kind of whack, Idon't know what's crazy is.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I just remember looking at that.
That was from the Source Awardsno Source Awards, and they did
that.
What it was is at that time NewYork was a little faded as far
as the music scene.
That's when more LA and thenthe South started to get into it
.
The reason how I know about theSouth is because, like I said,

(15:17):
when I was in Fort Hood FortHood is in Texas, so I really
went left.
Of course, me my thing wasalways the locks.
You know, jadakiss, stiles P,you know what I'm saying she
glues, that was my thing.
But when I went out to Texasthen I got into that tropical
screw, totally different.

(15:38):
But you can ride to it, you canride to it, but I still have to
maintain I'm from New York, youknow everywhere.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
How'd you hear about the child?
It was on the radio or you justheard it passing.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Crazy story.
I get to my new unit, theyfound out I'm from New York.
So at that time it was startedout with Beanie Segal versus
what you call Jadakiss.
So it's like who do you like?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I said Jadakiss all day, kiss all day, even though
beans is my man too but jay thekiss so then it was like oh word
.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
So then you know, now I got a little crew right.
They know I'm from up north,even though I'm in the south and
all that.
So it was like um bam, welistening to stuff and then,
like they just played thischocolate screw, I was like wait
, hold up, because remember,it's all slow.
Yeah, so being that it was slow, but you still can ride to it,
just you know.

(16:31):
So you know we always get inthe whips that you know we had
like five or six.
Everywhere I go I always seemto get the music people.
We just click up.
Yeah, weird story, it happensthat way.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
So were you with the people that was making it, or
was it like uh oh, do you likethis person click up?
Yeah, weird story, it happensthat way.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Nah, that's dope, that's dope.
So were you with the people.
That was making it or was itlike oh, do you like this person
or this person?
You said this person, so theyalready had it, like on a
cassette or CD or something.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
It was at that time.
This is when CDs started tocome, but it still was on
cassette could watch.
Don't tell you that.
Switch the house.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
I got into it, still New York all day, but then they
started playing New York musicusing chocolate screw, and that
was where I went from.
And then what make it crazy isnow, when I end up going
overseas, that when it goes awhole nother level, because now
we got Master P and him Comingout, so now I'm getting on that

(17:27):
no limit, I'm like man, okay,and that's where I feel.
When it comes To the music, Ithink People wasn't ready For
when Outkast had stepped out.
But if you Realize to the wordsthat they say, because you know
Everything more to me is moreabout metaphor.
You know how the cadence go.
So when you have somebodyrapping about stuff, that makes
sense.

(17:47):
Some people don't gravitate towhat others do.
So that's really the differencewas right there for me, for
what I can say on my part.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah, so we could.
We always, as DJs, we alwayshave this discussion about, like
, the origin of hip hop.
Right, we like was it about theparty or was it about the
message?
You know what I'm saying andthat's that's where we all kind
of debate on that because, like,I always felt it was about the

(18:15):
message, but a lot of mypartners they feel differently,
they feel like it's about theparty.
So you, know well as you, youknow what I'm saying, being that
that was, you know your time,you feel me.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Enlighten us.
Okay, so the message, whichactually was a song by Melly Mel
Furious, 5.
Now that's back in the 70s, 78s, so they did deliver the
message.
If you listen to the wordsright, it told you about the
condition that they were livingin at that time.

(18:46):
So what the difference is nowis a lot of songs are more about
for partying, doing this anddoing that, but it's still more.
It's the message.
Is what we're missing now youknow what I'm saying.
So you had that time.
And then you have back in NewYork the song dropped called

(19:06):
Self-Destruction.
If you listen to that song andthat was by KRS-One and
everybody that was popping inNew York at that time If you
listen to that song and see howwe are living now still the same
issues, just different times.
So it's all about the time anderas of music and everything
times.
So it's all about the time anderas of music and everything.
Really, for us we didn't the wayour crew was.

(19:31):
I had a crew, I was part of acrew and all that.
So we would go to differentcrew neighborhoods and then we'd
be in there.
It'd just be crew deep.
That's what we did Crew deep.
Guess I'm telling on myself.
But hey, I was younger Adifferent time.
I'm 51 now, so I can speak ofthese things Right.

(19:52):
So it was like we was crew deepand then, you know, our thing
was we did go party and dance,but our dance would be like the
whole crew dance.
We came up with this dancecalled the big.
We called it the big niggas.
Oh, we just didn't just rockside to side.
You know, that's what I think,wasn't it?
We end up leaving if we end upgetting into a scuffle sometime.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
That happened, right most times we're just.
You know, we just representedour crew.
That's what's up.
That's dope.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
All right, definitely dope okay, well, so tanaka, I
remember us because we kind ofgot sideways, so the once a
month thing, and then you wereasking so what was?
What was the other thing thatyou were saying?

Speaker 4 (20:33):
it was about what's been going on since yeah, I
didn't know if you was justasking because you know these
businesses.
They be saying like the firstquarter, it's just about
completing you dude.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Yeah, I'm not going to lie bro.
Since the last episode I kindof I mean, I feel like it's kind
of been a lot.
I don't really remember exactly.
Oh, yeah, yeah, do you rememberanything?
Because I don't know these days, kind of.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, I guess the biggest thing is RITC.
I went and checked that out.
Oh yes, let's talk about that.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Rolling in the Carolinas.
Rolling in the Carolinas.
Floor drawer, sir, how did thatgo?

Speaker 4 (21:09):
So I had no expectations, like I didn't know
what I was getting into.
Them folks talking about hell.
No, you got to go to theCarolinas.
Like it's a lit skate party andit's at the third and you know,
being that we in the A, like weget skate parties all the time,
so that's kind of like you knowwe're spoiled.
Yeah, we're spoiled, very muchso, but I don't be going to the

(21:33):
day parties and all theextracurriculars.
You know I just go to thesessions if I do pop out.
So I didn't know what thisexperience was going to be.
I went up solo.
I didn't know if thisexperience was going to be.
I went up solo, I didn't knowif I was going to know anybody
there, like you know what's thedeal and everything.
So it was cool to be in anotherplace and see, you know, fellow

(21:55):
skaters, fellow peers fromAtlanta out there, but yeah, it
was cool.
I was really mad the firstnight, but yeah, it was cool.
I was really mad the firstnight because I forgot that I'd
be in the past.
You know, like being at AA, I'mable to just bring my water in.
But I was talking about you seethis, right, sir?

(22:17):
Yeah, fresh out of the stoveLike they like.
Yeah, you can't bring it in.
I'm like bruh Damn, didn'tthink about that.

Speaker 1 (22:24):

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Right, so, but no, it was cool, though, checking out
a different rink and like seeingall the different styles, for
sure, and then like thedifferent they did.
I got there Friday.
They had a session Thursday,but I got there Friday.
Friday they did a roll call,Saturday they did guys and girls
skate, and then Sunday they dida roll call.

(22:45):
Saturday they did guys andgirls skate and then Sunday they
did style call.
So those are the differentthings, but yeah, the day part
boy, that joint was exhaustingman Cause I was.
I was so tired, like I usuallybe, downloading the videos to my
computer after the session LikeI fell asleep doing it Like I
was just.
It was that bad.
Yeah, I was downloading thevideos to my computer after the
session like I fell asleep,doing it like I was just out.

(23:06):
It was that bad.
Yeah, I was exhausted.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
that's almost a lot, man yeah, because you, you, you
had said off air that you were,um, you, you've gone to these
parties and it's kind of nothing, but the only difference is
you've never gone to the dayparty, day party, yeah that's,
that's your curricular, it'slike a solo one, you definitely.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Yeah, man, it's, it's aricular, it's a lot, it's a
lot to process, for sure youknow cause you don't really like
.
We know the skaters but we onlysee them at the rink, you know,
and then just seeing them in adifferent setting and like the
different personalities it'slike that's when the
personalities stand out.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
for sure, yeah, not definitely, but not.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
it was a good sign though it was, you know, there
was no like beef or anything.
Everybody was, you know, goodvibes, partying, having a good
time and stuff.
So, yeah, it really brought meback to college for real, but
that's you know, that kind ofyeah, yeah, that kind of
environment did.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
But um, well, that's what's up.
That's what's up.
Good, you made it back in onepiece and then you end up
hurting yourself here.
It's awesome, uh.
So, lauren, do you got anyexperience on the uh in the
skating rinks?

Speaker 3 (24:19):
well, back then, when I was going skating, you know,
we scored a skate key up in theBronx and I didn't skate, we
just went there to fight.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Truthfully no, but I ain't gonna lie, honestly, when
I went to All-American, when Ifirst got there, I wasn't going
there to skate.
Like I didn't go there.
Like they used to have parties.
And that's back when the theteam parties kind of stopped,
because I guess we were like tworowdies, so like they started
doing in the skating rinks andlike we would just be in that
little practice area like justwaiting for them to shut the

(24:48):
floor down.
So same thing.
They still.
Most you know they have, likelocal people did parties there
as well too.
So it'll be the Friday, youknow, meet other people and we
just be lurked up right we be onset.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
We be on scene right.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
So this, this literally, do you know?
Do you know if that rink Isstill open?

Speaker 3 (25:07):
It moved.
It's still open, but it movedwhen, I believe, the last time I
was up top.
It's in Manhattan.
Now I don't think it's in theBronx.
I could double check and stuff.
But now, you know, with my wifewho's a great skater, so now so
, so now, so now I'm trying toget back, but it's just that you
know, them old pains, themilitary pains, is kicking in.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
I mean, and I would I don't know I would I would
agree with you on that, but I'mnot gonna lie, bro.
Some of these older folks thatbe on the flow, I mean I get
they've been, you know, put intime, but I feel like there's
ways around it, like you reallywant to learn.
I just did Sparkle Smyrna andit'd be old folks in there.
I'm talking 60 plus.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Truly so you know, it's funny you say that too
because my dad, he always becommenting on me like, hey, that
guy's pretty big, I get chants,yeah.
So you know, but how did Breezyget into the ring?
Well, that's, did you guys like, oh, do you want to go to the

(26:09):
skating rink and kind of bringhim along?
Or he just was like did he asky'all to go hit him up pretty
much.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
I don't know, his mom should be the hands man more.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, she doesn't want to be on the show, though
she said she's, it's more.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
He got into the djing right.
Yeah, because you know, like Iwas telling you know from the
early stage.
You know I was supposed to behis backup but long search, I
was the backup.
So if he had to go to thebathroom and everything, oh, you
hop on then I also kind ofthrow him certain 90s, 80s music

(26:43):
and stuff like that.
But as far as how he just hadit in him.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
You see how he took off you guys, definitely I'll be
blown away sometime by thereason how you knew that song.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
I didn't know he was so big into house music oh,
that's because he get it fromhis moms that's like his dna he
going crazy with it, right oh mygod because you know that house
music is, it's somethingspecial so were there?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
like so is that the kind of music they were playing,
like up north, like in the newyork?
Is that like the party you weregoing to?

Speaker 3 (27:21):
were you going to some of those parties or no, I
didn't go to most of thembecause those were like the big
name clubs.
You know what I'm saying Withthe house music and especially
if you was in Jersey, you knowJersey didn't like New York cats
like that.
So we didn't really fool, wedidn't like that Right.
But you know most of the mainclubs in Jersey had all the
music.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
So the parties you're talking about Like house
parties type of deal.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Well, let's see From my time era.
The biggest thing for us Wasthis one called the Muse.
That's the one where everybodyfrom every borough Meet at,
because I remember being inthere With Tupac and he had the
bathroom on lockdown Likeeverybody In this club, the Muse
.
A lot of craziness happeneddown there.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
So what year would you say that Tupac was there?

Speaker 3 (28:05):
I want to say this has to have been around.
Let's see, it got to be eitherin the early 90s or, like I said
, I left New York around,graduated in 93.
So I left New York in like 94.
So it probably has to be inbetween 90, 91, 92, if I'm
correct.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Okay, Well, I just to put it in perspective, because
I do a lot of research on Tupac.
So the fact that you said Tupacwas there, I'm just curious on
which Tupac was at the club.
Is this fun Tupac or is thisdeath row?

Speaker 2 (28:36):
It's not death row.
You said 93.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
90, 91, and 2.
This is like digitalunderground, right.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
So this is probably around Juice Era, right before
Juice, even though people don'trealize.
He never left the road.
Juice Bishop, yeah, yeah, Iain't gonna go there, but yeah,
yeah, yeah, because you know, ofcourse, like I said, me being
in New York, no biggie or athing, right?

(29:02):
But, you know I like Bach too.
Maybe in New York, no biggieall day, right.
But you know I like Bach too,Don't get me wrong, right.
You know being in the military,you get to learn different
things, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
I had cast outs from LA and stuff too.
So let me ask you this when youfirst heard of Tupac, did you
also think that he was alwaysfrom the West Coast, or did you
already know he was?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
from New York and Baltimore and all that other
stuff.
Technically, from when I gotinto knowing who he was and
everything, I always felt he wasfrom Atlanta.
You know what I'm saying, eventhough he spent some time there,
really, yes, but really he wentto school, I believe some art
school that's in New York.
I'd be a little bit off becauseI remember something about him

(29:43):
being in an acting school andstuff, because a lot of people
do go to this school.
It's one of the known actingschools.
And then you know, of course,he did the role of Jews and then
he did other movies and stuffAbove the Rim, and all that and
all those was before Death Row.
Yeah, all that was before DeathRow.
So, like you said, the digitalunderground era.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Truthfully, death row didn't really last that long.
It was really a year.
Honestly, it was like probablytwo years, maybe possibly like,
but you know death row didn'tlast that long.
I was just curious to see.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
No reason why I say like I said you know between, I
said the tunnel was witheverybody cuz.
I'm gonna see when guru was alot what, where I pass me the
service, what's up to me, youknow like, believe it or not,
being from the Bronx, like SwissBeasts, we grew up together a
lot, meaning we was playing inthe dirt together and stuff.
Meaning Kaseem sees me, heprobably will remember or I can

(30:40):
remind him of things that we did, especially on the block.
That's crazy.
It's a lot of people.
I do know that me and I haven'tbeen up there in a minute now,
but that's older, elder than meand I am now.
It's like I'm an OG to a lot ofpeople.
I'm lucky.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
But trust me, I am Going back to that club that you
were talking about.
What would you say is thebiggest, the biggest celebrity
that was in that that you'veseen in?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
there, um.
Like I said everybody, I thinkflex was on the um, on the ones
and twos then, but for me thebiggest celebrity was at the
time when we went to um in theBronx.
I went to the fever and Nasperformed.
I was right there, he performed.
He's rocked it.
You know, I'm saying what yearis this?

(31:32):
This had to be like probably 89or 88 time frame because Nas
yes, oh, dang, this is early Nas, so this is before Illmatic
right, it was way beforeIllmatic.
Yes, like I said, it's justnasty Nas.
So this is like being like Isaid, we just end up going to
this one club and it was like yo, let's go check this out

(31:54):
Because, like, even where welived up in Boys Row, they had
this one spot called the Stard,so in the starters is where a
lot of people may come throughto as well too.
So it's like I said, I mean,had went to a place and even
realized you know, I'm sayingyeah, it was there because you
know what's funny story is.
I went to a big old concert inin north carolina when I was in

(32:16):
the military and wu-tang wasthere.
Carol s1 um madeline wasperforming.
I remember when Meth jumpedinto the crowd I would have
caught him.
I would have caught him too ifhe would Now.
We started near the stage.
That crowd rocked so hard wewas almost outside, oh wow.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
So I gotta ask At that concert, were all Wu-Tang
members there?

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah, they all was there.
I want to say this was up in.
I want to say this was up ineither.
I want to say it was in Raleighbecause Raleigh, we found, was
like a little New York to us.
This was when I was stationedat Fort Brown, north Carolina.
So we always dip up to Raleigheven though we weren't supposed
to be in there.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
We just did it.
Wow, that's dope, he said Big.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
L.
Yeah, I was just about to saythe fact that you just breezed
past Big L like that, yeah.
So what are your thoughts onBig L?
Because, I'm not going to lie,I didn't know about him until he
passed away.
I honestly don't remember whenhe passed away, but, yeah, what
are your thoughts on Big L?

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Big L, he was the, you want to say he was the
beginning of what a lot ofpeople sound.
Big L had a lot of versesbecause he was down with the
crew called Digging with theKrinks, which is Diamond D, ag
Chauvis, fat Joe, big L waskilling it.
He did that one rhyme.
You know, he did the rhyme thatPat Boots ended up doing later

(33:48):
on when he did all the alphabetsand stuff.
Oh, big L did that.
Yes, so he did a song where hewas saying what words mean.
You know.
You say what an L is.
That means you either catchingan L or taking a train.
He breaks down a.
So if you go back to Big L,basically Big L, basically Big L
is once he passed, then that'swhen Jay-Z became who Big L was.

(34:11):
Believe it, or?

Speaker 1 (34:12):
not believe it or not .
Believe it or not?
Yeah, cause I just remember.
I just always see in his facewhen I would watch.
When I was younger I wouldwatch music videos and they
would always have like his likelike his, like memoirs, like
memory joint and memory, loveand memory on like the walls and
like graffiti and stuff likethat.
I'm like, wow, he must havereally been a an issue.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
He was, because you know back then a lot of people
before they started to do rapbattles, you know, just like
there is footage of when DMXbattled Jay-Z.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
That's's funny.
That's what I thought about too.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
There's so many that's out there, believe it or
not.
You can see when somebody firststarted to be where they at.
Just like people don't realizethe whole thing with Ja Rule and
DMX.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
It's a lot of things, I'm not gonna lie.
I thought that happened becauseJa Rule sounds just like DMX.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
That's what it was about.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I remember when he first came out.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I'm like he sounds like Like a soft DMX, like he's
like Same raspy voice, whateverLike Correct, yeah, but yeah,
that's man Shout out to you.
I would have never thought We'dbe talking about Big L Like
that's Hip hop history.
Man.
Thought we'd be talking aboutbig L like that's history man.

(35:25):
Like always, that's somebody.
I need to do a little historyjoint on a little history
research on this big L, becauseanother person you should do the
test.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
You know it's guru.
The words he was spinning backthen yeah that's on the tripod.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Quest guru is with gang star, gang star.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
So guru pass, but DJ Perrin is still here, so Guru
was definitely.
Definitely he was from Brooklyn.
I believe you know what I'msaying.
He spit a lot of things thatmake you think, because you got
to think about how, like I said,the 90s was more about okay, it
wasn't all about just partyingand BSing.

(36:03):
At first it was about yo, we'regoing to get this message on.
You know, we got to do betteras a people, as a community.
That was like the first pushfor it, but then all of a sudden
it changed and then everybodywas like you know, I get this
quick money party.
You know, you know, spin thebill or do all this craziness.
It changes each time?

Speaker 4 (36:25):
When would you say you felt like it changed?

Speaker 3 (36:30):
What year would you say it had to change when NWA
started.
So I want to say that has tohave been around 93.
And then, like I said, in 94,in May of 94, I left New York.
So but the way NWA was was theywere speaking of what they was
going through out there, butthen also was talking about
freedom of speech.

(36:50):
That's when the word freedom ofspeech but you gotta also
remember you had nwa, then youhad luke, see what I'm saying.
So it's like you have florida,you have florida, it's the
furthest down south.
You have the west coast now andthen also, like I said, what
you call Atlanta music wasstarting to come on the rise
because you had, you know,Outkast, you had Goody Mob, you

(37:11):
had a lot of people from the Awas coming through.
Well, I believe if people wouldhave just embraced everybody and
let them be how they have theirstyle, because you know Texas
have their own type of style,you know what I'm saying Then it
really really shouldn't havebeen an issue.
It should have been that wholelet's get together as a whole

(37:33):
and it would have been different.
I think the music industrywould have went a whole
different way if we really tooktotal control of it and then,
like, put things in place.
Even though a rapper gets old,they should be somewhere as a
spokesperson for the peoplewho's young, because people need
guidance.
Know, I'm saying, but a lot ofpeople was gatekeeping and

(37:54):
that's how?
Because somebody's not from NewYork, they sound different.
You think they wack?
No, that's just their style.
No, I'm saying because that'swhat hip-hop is about.
It's about a style.
You can wear certain clothesand somebody can tell where
you're from.
That's a style, that's hip-hop.
Somebody can do a tagging.
You can tell where it's from.
That's part of hip-hop.

(38:14):
So really, if we put all thethings in perspective, like the
DJ, the DJ makes the differencein hip-hop.
Before it was all about therapper, but no, it's more about
the DJ.
You know what I'm saying andall the other essence.
And that's where KRS loves tospit out the culture as a whole.
He don't just talk about oh,I'm the only MC blah, blah, blah

(38:37):
.
No, he talks about every otherthing with it Graffiti, the
music you know the DJ andeverything.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
You talked about a lot of stuff.
It's interesting that youbrought up the West Coast and
then you brought up Uncle Luke.
Were you around that time?

Speaker 2 (38:55):
when apparently Uncle .

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Luke and Dr Dre were beefing.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
I probably was living or not, oh, but you weren't
paying attention to it.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
I wasn't really paying attention to it Because I
remember there's people.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
That matter of fact, because I think it's something
that Eazy has said too, itscared my mind.
But the thing with Luke, like Isaid, he had the party, he was
like party, party, party and hedid all the music and of course
you you know the booty shakingand stuff, right, because billy

(39:27):
believe it or not, because ofluke is how atlanta even got
even to the next level, becausethat's when freakney came about.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Booty bass, yeah, booty bass, and that's shout out
to tanaka.
I had, I, I didn't know itsounded like atlanta just took a
lot of like influence fromother states because I didn't
know that the crunk was fromMemphis.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
A lot of people don't know that.
A lot of people don't know thatit started in Memphis, but
Memphis was still trying to comeup.
But you got to also rememberAtlanta is the center.
It's now considered like a hub.
Oh yeah, I don't know if peoplepay attention like the shows,
like BMF and stuff.
Even with BMF they went fromDetroit, came to Atlanta.

(40:09):
So everybody comes down toAtlanta right now.
You'd be surprised how manypeople from up north is down in
Atlanta oh yeah so that's howthe music is going to the next
level, believe it or not.
So like with Crunk Music.
So like with crunk music whichyou know, lil Jon was doing it,
he was killing it.
Then they made, you know, stripclub music, and that was
killing it too.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Right, right, ooh boy , we done rapped a lot.
We didn't even start the showyet, so we gonna move on to the
waiting.
You got anything else to add?

Speaker 4 (40:41):
No.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Okay, cool, that was a cool issue.
Yeah, right, I mean we're goingto keep it going, but yeah, so
we got the question of the day.
Let me pull this back up andsee what the question of the day

(41:06):
is.
And, lebron, we're going tostart with you.
We're going to start thequestion of the day.
What's an artist you thinkdeserves way more recognition
than they get?

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Hmm, see, it seems like I might be.
What more, when you say artist,is it a group or just the one
person?
Take it wherever you want totake it, because for me, what's
the one cast, luchini, I'venever heard of them.
What you got to listen?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
to them Camp Love, camp Love.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Luchini Falling From the Sky.
Yes, camp Love Put me on.
Yes, basically, because youknow a lot of people only think
of only what's the group.
What's the group called theJungle Brothers.
But the Jungle Brothers thenyou had Native Tongues.
So Native Tongues was anothermovement that came through.
That was mostly the cats fromQueens.

(42:00):
They was like the end part ofthe Native Tongues era.
You know, de La Soul, of course.
De La Soul, which they stillget recognized, believe it or
not.
Yeah, camp Lo, that group rightthere, just the words they say,
how he was speaking, themetaphor smooth, everything and
classic too.
That's just what I think, me,nah, I feel that.

(42:21):
I feel that.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Yeah, camp Lowe is dope.
I actually seen them live.
They had performed with DigablePlants, exactly.
I seen them and nothing.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Oh yeah, don't mind me, I'm actually looking up.
I've never heard of this group.
Camp Lowe, yeah, the video wasbanging.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
Check out the video this group can't blow.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah, yeah, the video was banging.
Check out the video.
All right, who you feel?

Speaker 4 (42:50):
is an artist that needs a little bit more record
recognition.
That's the word, it's.
It's crazy, I feel like umrecognition one of my favorite
groups is the lost boys.
So you know, uh, I feel likethe Boys you know don't quite
get the recognition.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
And I get.
Well, I'll come back to you.
Why do you feel like Camp Lowdoesn't get the recognition?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Because you know at the time how everybody was
coming up and then they justtheir songs.
What they were saying, was itresonated with you?
It wasn't like they were justgiving you, you know, bullshit
and party Nah, they had a goodsaying.
Was it resonate with you?
It wasn't like they were justgiving you bullshit and partying
Nah, they had a good message.
They was putting out words andit damn, that's the case.

(43:33):
I could have said another grouptoo.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Say it Dan Prez, that beat I ain't gonna lie, the
reason why I even know who DanPrez is.
Shout out to Dave Chappelle.
That's how I know who Dead Prezis.
That dude, yeah.
The hip hop, yeah.
So let me ask you this so youactually did listen to Dead Prez

(43:57):
, yes, so why do you feel likethey didn't get the recognition?

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Because of what they were saying.
They was galvanizing thecommunity together.
It was galvanizing, but theyalso was talking about the music
industry, Right, which you knowthey ain't like that.
So they had to make them intosomething negative when it was
all about positive.
That's the same thing with CamLoeb.
Their songs wasn't aboutnegativity.

(44:23):
It was about positivity of uspeople.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
That's just what it is, man.
So what about you, Tanaka?
Why do you feel like Lost?

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Boys is getting the recognition.
I just feel like, as far as NewYork, there's so many New York
groups I feel like it's spokenabout, but I feel like Lost Boys
kind of gets lost in theshuffle.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
No pun intended, no pun intended you know truthfully
, I didn't even know that was agroup.
I didn't even know that was agroup.
I knew about Mr Cheeks when hecame out with Lights Camera
Action.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
But yeah, freedy, the other dude here passed away
when he was one of the victimsof the circumstance.
We'll just say that's thatright.
So you know it was like.
It's like how you have, youknow, say like if what you call
Mobb Deep, you know it's twopeople, but one passed away and

(45:21):
the other one is still there,but if you listen to all of Mobb
Deep now, I've talked aboutthis group and I mean I feel
like they get the recognitionbut I feel like they should get
bigger recognition.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
But Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, I feel like
they should get a lot morerecognition from what they get,
because they were the firstgroup to add a melody with
hip-hop.
Hip-hop was always just rapping, but they would add melodies to
it.
I do feel like they do get therecognition.
I feel like they should geteven bigger recognition than

(46:01):
what they have.
Did you listen to Bone ThugsRemembrance Ron?

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Oh yes, main thing with them, you know, because
they was on the back end of Eazy.
This is where Eazy this was hisfirst project with them, right?
And then you know what he wasgoing through that kind of like
shadow, but, like you said, withthe harmony ain't, nobody was
doing that at that time.
So they was, you know theystarted it.
And Ain't nobody was doing thatat that time.
So they was, you know theystarted it.

(46:27):
And then you know, of course,busy Boom, he just was a beast
with them words Right, and thenthe other guy, I can't remember
his name.
They all was on point but, justlike you said, they got
overshadowed.
You know what I'm sayingBecause they was in Columbus,
ohio, I believe.
So you know, it really wasn't aname.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
You know a known spot at the time, but I agree with
you on that one so let me askyou this, lauren how much do you
think it's um the artist'sfault that they fall off, rather
than the record label thatthey're on that they fall off?

Speaker 3 (46:59):
honestly, it's more about the education part and
understanding.
If you understand and know thewhole picture, just don't look
at the money part.
I think some people just lookat just the cash value and they
don't really understand thatSometimes they just don't.
It's not because you got tokeep performing.
If you can't perform.
If you can't perform, you'renot going to get your money.

(47:21):
Just making a song is not theonly thing.
You got to perform.
Perform because you gotta beout there.
You gotta sell merch.
You gotta do the other thingsthat a lot of people ain't
willing to do.
Some just want to be in thestudio and that's it.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
But nah, because the studio is where half of your
bill is going to Right Facts,nah, and that's and honestly,
now that I know a little bitabout record labels and all that
type of stuff, I feel like they, I don't know I feel like it's
kind of interesting.
It makes sense why they alwaysget these folks from like the
hood, because they're not usedto all that kind of money and
they're going to see that atcash events of $100,000 and not

(47:58):
know that for four or five yearswe now own you.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Correct.
And yeah, I think that'sanother thing, that because you
know how everybody be like, oh,I wouldn't have done something
like that, but it's like thesekids like they're young you know
, yeah, very, and they're young,yeah, so it's like you know.
You gotta put that inperspective.
Yeah, you know, they they notyou.
Like you said, they're not usedto seeing that much money and

(48:24):
then on top of that.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
You know they're young, so it's like and some of
them got families to feed.
So like it's like yeah, so yeah, but yeah, man, you gotta read
them papers and it's a lot ofpapers too, but the main one
what page, which page?

Speaker 3 (48:42):
you always say we always have to look at the last
page, the last page, it's themost important one.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Yeah, that's all I look for, because that's what
they love making sure you didn'tread it all.
That's all good.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
As long as you got your signature, that's all that
matters.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Correct, but cool.
Well, we're going to move on toGuess the Bars.
I can't wait for this one.
This one is going to be fun.

(49:37):
We'll see you next time.
So, ladies and gentlemen, ifyou don't know what Guess the
Bars is, we have some bars thatwe give to each other and we
read them out to you guys and weput them on the F scale.
We rate it off the F scale,which is from 5 to 1.
Fire, ferocious, flat, frisbeeand fecal.
You just pull from this and youread it out to the people and

(50:02):
if you think you know who it is,you can try to guess or whoever
, and if there's any part thatstands out to you, you know.
Oh yeah.
Just read it and see and rate iton the scale.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
It says I'd rather be a different man in another
world than work for a man in myuniverse.
Wonder what it feels like totake flight.
Mama told me everything gonnabe alright.
I mean my life couldn't be offright.
But come to think about it,everybody's running.

(50:41):
The world seems to be all right.
Can you motherfuckers see allright?
Can you say?

Speaker 1 (50:54):
yeah, just so, on the on the 501 fighter fecal.
What would you give that?
What you get, those bars, Iwould give it a four Ferocious
yes For sure.
Do you have any guess on whothat could be I?

Speaker 3 (51:09):
don't know, I can't, it's not coming.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Is it a newer or old?
I guess he would be newer, nah,I can't.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
I can't get it.
Is there any lines that stickout to you at all?
He would be newer.
Nah, I can't.
I can't get it.
Is there any lines that stickout to you at all?

Speaker 3 (51:26):
or that's the thing.
It's like.
Mama told me everything gonnabe alright.
I would feel that would be theone to get me.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
It's just not clicking it's not clicking okay,
well, honestly, if you wouldhave got this to get me.
It's just not clicking, it'snot clicking.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
It's not clicking, okay.
Well, honestly, if you would'vegot this, I actually would've
been surprised but, this is.
This is an artist by the nameof Logic.
Are you familiar with theartist named Logic?

Speaker 3 (51:53):
is that the new cat with the glasses?
No, he's like he's like Logic,yeah, he's like he's like a mix.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
He's like a mix.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
He's like mixed.
He's like mixed.
He's like black.
I think he's like mama's black.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Does he have glasses?

Speaker 1 (52:04):
I think he does have glasses Dang, I just said that.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Yeah, he might, if it's the one.
I think you know he does gotsome skills.
I like his flow.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (52:13):
I think he may, I think I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
I'm called, confess, I'm assuming you've never heard
the song before.
I probably heard it.
Just.
You know just my thing be, Ican hear a song, but sometimes
if it don't, if it don't grab meand pay attention to it, then
I'm right, I feel you, but Istill say afford because he did.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
I like how the metaphor was I be high as hell
but I be on my business too.
Baby said I'm fly.
Yeah, I put up in a businesssuit.
Please don't waste my time orI'ma block you and forget.

(52:58):
It's you.
Yeah, after all this shit I did, you just did it too.
Is it the drugs?
It's the money?
What got into you?
What the hell you thinking?
What you thinking?
You not bulletproof?
All it takes is just a second.
Just see what this bullet do.
They said that.
They said the way wouldn't makeit bitch.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
I'm living proof what are your thoughts?

Speaker 4 (53:21):
good sir, um, it's interesting, interesting thought
process.
Um I could, I could appreciateit, though it's kind of like
thoughtful conversation.
Um, I'm gonna get a flatferocious.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
I'm going to guess that it's Max B Max.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
B.
Well, you are wrong.
This is actually an artist andhe was asking if this is a new
artist.
This is an artist by the nameof Yeet.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Are you familiar with Yeet?
I am Not familiar with Yeet.
I mean, I haven't listened.
Yeah, I haven't listened.
Ron's like nah, I don't know.
Nope, this is a song called Notthe Same.
Wow, you don't know the song.
I haven't listened to so much.
Yeet, okay, wow, yeah you know.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
So, wow, yeah, I mean I, you know, jordan spoke up
for him and said that, you know,I mean, honestly, I feel like
he probably will be the nextblake ricardo, probably because
he's like, he has that good corefan base.
But, um, yeah, okay, all right,cool, let's see what we got.
Um, I don't give a goddamn onthe shows you did.
How many times you got, or two,who knows you kid, cause I

(54:45):
don't know you.
Therefore, show me what youknow.
I come sharp as a blade and Icut you slow.
You become so pat as my styleincreases.
What's that in your path?
Ah, human feces.
Throw your shitty draws in thehamper.
Next, i'ma come strapped withthe fucking pamper.
How you sound B.

(55:06):
You better be off quicker.
I'm on the mound G and it's ahitter.
And the DJ, the catcher, he'smy man.
In a way, he's the one whodevised the plan.
He throws the signs.
I hook up beats with clout.
I throw rhymes on the mic andstrike them out.
So it really doesn't matter howyou intrigue, you can't fuck

(55:28):
with those in major leagues.
That was long, that was reallylong.
Um, that, um, uh, it was allright.
I guess uh'm going to give it agoddamn.
I'm going to show you how manyrhymes you got.
I'm going to show you, kid, Igive it a flat ferocious because

(55:50):
I feel like this is older.
If it's not older then it'llprobably be closer to flat.
I feel like it's older.
I'm going to go with flatferocious.
This definitely sounds likesome New york, some up north.
It's definitely sounded upnorth.
Rapper.
Um yeah, I don't know who thisis who do we have?

Speaker 4 (56:13):
to knock it I can't get it he said he can't get it,
I can't get it Clan in the front, Clan in the front man.
What's that?

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Oh, okay, yeah, your PR group over here are mad at
you.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
I thought you were really saying that man.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Your PR group over here mad at you.
You got some explaining to do.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Yeah, yeah, that's funny.
All right, I told Weezy, giveme a key, give me that weed.
Give me that little G, give methat Mac 10.
Let me see what's happening.
That will excuse me.
That was me.

(57:07):
While these niggas was lacking,I was thugging with.
Detroit Wasn't a good day,these niggas relaxing.
You was stressing about that.
Hoe, I'm chasing Charles.
I ain't want no taxes.
My plan went sour.
I don't want to sell flour.

(57:29):
I want a office and a tower,though they bully by the hour.
And I know you heard of ghosts,but mine wasn't on power, ooh.
And I know you heard of ghosts,but mine wasn't on power.
Ooh, ain't never seen the bodybefore.
But let's give him a shower.

(57:49):
This guy be nicking my ass, oh,dang.

Speaker 4 (57:54):
You heard the wrong.
He said ooh, ooh.
He said ooh.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
You said you going Nikki.
Oh, okay, hold on, well, okay.
So yeah, wait.
You said Nikki.
Right, it has to be Nikki.
What do you?

Speaker 4 (58:09):
give it.
What's the rating you give it?
I still say a four Promotions.
Was there any lines that stuckout to you?

Speaker 3 (58:18):
that you enjoyed Between the part where it says
about power.
Okay, something about thatPower ghosts and power.

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Okay, caught that one for sure.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
That's the one that caught you.
Okay, well, no, it's not NickiMinaj.
Um, this is actually a rapperby the name of Trouble.
Oh, yeah, I heard of him and Ilike him too.
This, this is a feature.
This is off a song calledsoldier rags.
Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, that'suh, but that's you correct,

(58:53):
nephew?
Yeah, and he's.
He's one of the features on thesong, didn't?
That's the way?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I dolike him his style.
I did have trouble.
He didn't even ask the way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Idid like him His style, damn.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
I did like him.
Yep, his style.
Alright, round two, here we go.
Hey, that's funny.
So many plays homie.
I finesse palisade views withsome sex.
I lost a lot of love formissionary this the first time,

(59:29):
I confess me.
And top is like a Kobe and Phila father figure fucking, you
get killed, fuck with me and hewill kill you himself.
Interesting, real, real,aggressive, real quick.

(01:00:12):
I had to think about whoeverthis was talking about, six but
then they said me and top.
I thought they was talkingabout, like you know, getting
top, but they talking.
I thought they was talkingabout getting top, but I think
they talking about Top Dog.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Yeah, I was going to say they're probably talking
about.
Well, I wasn't saying Top Dog,but somebody named.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
Top.
Yeah, yeah, I guess.
Yeah, I thought at first theywas yeah, okay, read it one more
time, Tyler.
So many plays homie.
I finesse Palisade views withsome sex.
I lost a lot of love formissionary.
This the first time I confessMe and Top is like a Kobe and
Phil Father figure fuck with himand you get killed.

(01:00:53):
Fuck with me and he will killyou himself.
I don't think, okay, well, i'majust think TDE.
So I don't think okay, well,I'm going to just think TD.
So I don't think this isKendrick.
I don't think Abso is thataggressive.

(01:01:28):
I see the school, or J-rock, I'mgonna go school.
What Q Well say?
I'm gonna say with Schoolboy QWell, sir, did I raise it?
No, you didn't.
If you did, I don't remember.

(01:01:50):
Yeah, this would be probably.
I need a flat four.
I like the metaphor, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Well, sir, you should have won with your first
thought.
It was kendrick, it waskendrick, it was kendrick.
Yeah, this is off of, uh,untitled two.
Yeah, this is off that.
Uh, levitate, levitate thatthat album.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Whatever the album that was what's the name of the
album.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
yeah, yeah, I forget the name of the album, but yeah,
dang, that was that.
Yeah, that was.
That was definitely a dot.
Alright, let's see Number two.
Let's see what we got.
Alright, alright, you alreadyknow what it's about.
When I run up in your house,put the gun in your mouth and
get the money out the couch,hearing you out is senseless

(01:02:40):
perhaps.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
for instance, what's up, man?
Why you laughing about?

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
me.
This man, tanaka, is trying toget me canceled.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Look, tanaka wrote this down, You're reading bars I
have no issues with the LGBTcommunity.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Please, I haven't Look.
Pr group.
Please forgive me.
Please, hearing you how sinless.
Perhaps, maybe I should say itfaster.
I give this packet of currentfish, true, hello, I couldn't
even say it.
All right, I'm going to startfrom the top.
I'm going to say it.
Alright, I'm going to startfrom the top.
I'm going to say it fast.
You already know what it'sabout.

(01:03:25):
When I run up in your house,put the gun in your mouth and
get the money out the couch.
Hearing you out is senseless,perhaps.
For instance, I give thisfaggot a French kiss.
Black gloves, no print, darktint Word on the streets.
They ain't heard from him sinceyou ain't about oh, you know
about life after kicking the kidin, since me and my mini Dan

(01:03:47):
can flip seven gridams.
It's gridam.
The flow is forbidden.
Yeah, I don't know.
This definitely sounds likesome New York rap for the

(01:04:12):
intensity.
I think I'll give it a.
I think I'd give it a.
Give it a 3.8.
This is right.
This is right there.
It's right up under ferocious.
Yeah, I don't know who this is?
Yeah, I don't know who this is.
Laron, do you know who this is?

(01:04:32):
Is it Biggie?
Yeah, I don't know that doessound like with the gun in your
mouth, the money on the couch.
It does sound like it gives megive me the loot.
Yeah, give me the loot, yeah,Wait, I'm trying to get a
cadence of it.
I don't remember him.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know who this is.

(01:04:52):
I don't know who this is.
It's not who we got.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
So you guys are close .
It is a Biggie song but theverse is Jadakiss it's Last Day.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Oh, last Day.
That was off of what was thatoff of?
Life After Death.
Life After Death.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Yeah, I got to give Life After Death a full listen.
I don't think I've listened tothe whole Life After Death.
It's a great project yeah, soI've heard.
So I've heard All right, let'sgo around, let's go around.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
All right All right, here we go Right now.
I change guns with the season.
When I was young I bought NinjaStars on Jamaica Ave Hitting
trees, then Started hittingtrees, then we ran the trains on

(01:05:48):
the girls in my family danceschool.
We were beasting Little youngheathens.
I had the Rambo knife and whenI got my first gun I was
cheesing.
I couldn't believe it.
I had the power of life ordeath in the palm of my hands,

(01:06:10):
fiending for people to bescheming.
That was tough.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
yeah, that's the tone of the part I give it a three.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
It's like all these are starting to sound the same.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Yeah, it's starting to run the air.
There's definitely a lot of.
There's no heaps and valleys,it's kind of just.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Yeah, I can't even, I can't imagine, I can't even
imagine, I can't even imagine.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Oh, so you have no idea.
No idea, no idea.
Okay, so, oh.
So you have no idea, no idea.
So this is Prodigy.
It's off of a song called theInfamous.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Oh my God, oh my God, that's something that I would
listen to.
Oh man, so I gotta go back.
I gotta go back and listen toit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
I gotta go back and listen to it.
So wait, have you heard thesong?

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Yes, you have.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Okay, when was the first time you heard the
Infamous?

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Well, the main song we played was Ship One, so off
of that album, and then I justlistened to all of them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Oh, so you just ran through that album.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
That was one of the songs.
Yes, but Ship One is straightup Because it was one of the
songs.
Okay, gotcha, but Ship One isstraight evil.
Well, because it was all aboutthe, you know, the Acre legends.
Yeah, the gold Acre legends.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Yeah, absolutely, yep , yep, yep.
Those are the ones that.
That's why we, that's why wetry to give you a little time to
you know, if you want to thinkabout it, that's funny, all
right let's see.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
I might not hit nothing, but y'all know that I
was present.
See me and a bear in the woodsand held the bear there.
My life is Leonardo and theretinue.
Listen to the lead playing.
I ain't talking Zeppelin,boston, george.
Before we got the blow, I'm outhere.
Johnny Deppin, the only thingthat police gonna find on me is
a weapon Blessings.
Never believe in luck.

(01:08:04):
Read the signs at the lake.
It tells you don't feed theducks.
So keep it up and you'll beback to selling cuties In the
hood.
You get shot or you go out likefella cootie.
I like that one.
Yeah, this fire, daniel Tarrant.
I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Yeah, that was bars on bars, facts.
Yeah, that don't lie, I ain'tgonna lie.
So what part stood out to you?
So, wait, wait, what are yougiving it?
Oh, it's five, oh five, juststraight five, okay, yeah it's
five, oh five, just straightfive.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Okay, that's a lot.
Yeah, I mean like Don't Feedthe Ducks.
Life is Leonardo and theRevenant.
Listen to Led playing, nottalking, exactly.
It's a cold word, yeah this is.

(01:09:14):
I had a Prince.
What song?
Let's see this one.
I know it's the intro song, butI don't know what the title is.
Intro to what?
No, the One.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Sunday.
It's the first song.
Well, let's see if you're atleast correct.
If you're're correct on that,I'll give you a point for that,
if you can, cause I know themintros be a little weird.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
Cause it's not no Dope on Sundays, cause it's the
second song, but the first songit might be Amen or something, I
don't know, it's not coming tome.
I just know it's the first songoff the album.
First song off the album Setthe tone for the album.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
First song off the album yeah, set the tone for the
album Bars on bars, bars onbars, bars on bars.
Well, sir, yeah, I'll give youthe point.
You were right, it was theintro and I'll give you the
point.
Just because you were like, isit Amen?
I'll give it to you.
Good job, good job, you got itthere you go, there you go.
So when's the first time youheard Amen?

(01:10:26):
Oh, when the album dropped.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
Just like when the album dropped.
Yeah, man Didn't wait for that.
I was waiting for that albumfor like Tanaka come on Come on
now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
We know, because I was waiting too and I was like
like good lord Since 2009, 2010.
Lord 2009, all of us have, butum, okay, alright, so I'm gonna
wrap it up.
Let's see what we got.
Alright, the overseer rodearound the plantation.
The officer is off patrollingall the nations.

(01:10:59):
The overseer could stop youwhat you're doing.
The officer will put you overjust when he's nations.
The overseer could stop youwhat you're doing.
The officer will put you overjust when he's pursuing.
The overseer had the right toget ill and if you fought back,
the overseer had the right tokill.
The officer had the right toarrest and if you fight back,
they put a hole in your chest.

(01:11:19):
Hello whoop, they both ridehorses.
After 400 years, I've got nochoices.
The police, them, have a lip alittle.
A little wait.
Is that that's really okay?
So when I'm on the streets, Iwalk around with a bigger one I

(01:11:45):
hear it all day just so they canrun the lights and upon their
way.
So, lauron, you want to takethe point?
it's called I'll give it a firejust cause you know that's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Kara, that's one, that's the teacher.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
He's talking about something so um, yeah.
So when's the first time youheard that song, lauren, do you
remember?

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
we played it all the time.
That's just what we played, butreally, as I'm mainly focused
more on it now, you know, as Ibecame an adult growing up, it
really was hit because I waslistening to the words.
Back then it was all about justthe beat yeah, the beat and
being a H-1, being KRS-One.
But when you really listen tothe message it's like he brings
you back.
So he tells you the story andbrings you back into that time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
And it just really tells you what's going on now,
how to justify.
You know how the police are andwhere they came from.
Well, shout out to you, laron,I didn't, because that was the
perspective I've always had ofup north older rap is that they
didn't really care about thebeat.
But that's good to know that.
That was still a thing thaty'all did care about the beat,
but it was also about themessage as well.
So shout out to you for that.
Well cool, yeah, there, you gothat out the message as well.
So shout out to you for that.
Appreciate it.

(01:13:04):
Well cool, yeah, there you go.
That's Guess the Bars.
That was Guess the Bars.
That was fun Up next we have.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
When did you hear that song?

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
What this?
I've never heard this song.
Sound of the Police.
Oh, this is Sound of the Police.
Oh, this is Sound of the Police.
I thought he said somethingabout bad cop, or I did.
He didn't actually say the nameof the song I just I got uh
sound of the police I probablywould have heard.
I feel like I just would haveheard it like just randomly,
like I couldn't tell you when Iheard some of the police, um

(01:13:33):
yeah, um, I'm really trying,maybe like on a movie or
commercial or some some alongthose lines like I probably
heard it on that and I'm like,oh that's, that's KRS-One.
Because for me, krs-one was oneof those people.
I never really knew any of hismusic, but I just knew he was an
older rapper that was one ofthe founding fathers of hip-hop.

(01:13:54):
Yeah, my philosophy.
Oh well, I guess the only songI would know about him was the
the bridge is over, because Ialways just love the.
It's just so simple.
Yeah, exactly, it's so simple.
I'm telling you, tanaka, thatkiss method gets him every time

(01:14:16):
we're going to move on to theHall of Fame.
So, so, tanaka, like I said,these months and months joints I

(01:14:46):
know you don't remember them,so I actually written it down
this time.
So, last time on the Hall ofFame.
Appreciate everybody forparticipating in the Hall of
Fame.
The nominees were Georgia Snow.
Oh, by the way, shout out to DJ20 being the last guest.
Wait, shout out to DJ 20 beingthe last guest.
We had Georgia Snow versus theJeezy Snowman Contest versus the

(01:15:08):
Heath Ledger Joker, and thewinner is and the new inductee
into the TNT Podcast Hall ofFame is the Heath Ledger Joker.
So, tanaka, if you would liketo go ahead and start us off, go
ahead.
So, laron, what we do right nowis we just nominate whatever
you want to nominate.

(01:15:29):
It could be whatever you wantit to be.
It doesn't have to be a person.
It could be a clothes, a song,a mixtape.
It could be you.
If you want to nominateyourself, nominate yourself.
What we do is we take it and weput it on our Instagram page
and they vote.
And that would be the nextinductee into the TNT Podcast

(01:15:49):
Hall of Fame.
So, tanaka, I'm going to letyou start off.
What's our first nominee?

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
Let's see First nominee, let's see, let's see,
that's a good question.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
Uh, that's what I picked,gotcha.

Speaker 4 (01:16:13):
Well, you know what, tanaka, I'll let you slide.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
I'm going to nominate the Lost Boys.
Lost Boys, okay.
Why are we nominating the LostBoys?

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
Look, I feel like we didn't talk about a lot of
hip-hop this episode.
They were one of my favoritehip-hop groups.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
So who was your favorite out of that, or did you
have a favorite?

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
Yeah, I don't know if I really had a favorite.
I like the chemistry, though,that they had.
Yeah, like the chemistry forUtah and Mr Cheekshead, you know
, it's like that's kind of whythey?
you know, once he passed away,it's like no bringing that back.

(01:16:56):
You know, it just wasn't, itwasn't the same, the formula
wasn't there, mm-hmm.
So.
But I think they recognizedthat too, though it just wasn't,
it wasn't the same, the formulawasn't there.
You know so.
But I think they recognize thattoo, though.
So you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
But they make great music, though, for sure so what
would you say is your favoritesong by the Lost Boys?
For what are some?
If you don't have one, what'ssome favorite songs?
Well, I think my favorite isLex Coop, beamer and the.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Benz.
But I mean I have of courseRene Classic and then I think
the last song on that firstalbum Problems.
I forgot that real title, butyeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Okay, so we're going to go to Lost Boys.
So I're going to go to LostBoys.
So, I'm going to go completelyleft with this Just on account
of, at the time of recording, Iwent to go see the movie.
I went to go see a movie, soI'm going to nominate the Marvel
Cinematic Universe.
The Marvel Cinematic Universehas taken up a lot of my time.

(01:18:01):
I've stopped watching a lot ofstuff because of the Cinematic
Universe.
The TV shows, the movies, allof it.
It has just taken up all of mytime.
Like I said, I went to go seeCaptain America yesterday.
As a movie it was okay, but Ican kind of tell that it's
connected to something.
So the ending was kind of mid,but you can kind of tell it's a

(01:18:21):
to to something.
So the ending was kind of mid,but you can kind of tell it's a
to be continued.
But, um, yeah, I it's.
It's taking up a lot of my timebecause it was one movie I went
to go see and I didn'tunderstand it because I didn't
watch the tv show and I was likeyou know what, bump it.
I'm gonna drop everything andI'm gonna watch every single tv
show that came out of the marveluniverse and that took about a

(01:18:42):
year.
It took about a year for me toget caught.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
And I'm almost caught up.
I got to watch Daredevil.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Shout out to Daredevil.
That's actually a pretty goodshow for people that aren't
really into the Marvel Universe.
There are a couple shows that Iwould recommend that I would
watch If you don't care for theMarvel Universe, just to watch
is a good show.
Luke Cage, daredevil, jessicaJones, the Punisher those are

(01:19:08):
the shows you should watch.
I'd recommend them.
The movies, of course, theAvengers.
The Avengers are always theones that everybody goes to, but
I would say my favorites wouldbe Wakanda.
Oh, not Wakanda, no, notWakanda.
Forever, forever.
I can't watch that movie.
That movie is really sad.
The first one, black Panther.
Black Panther was probably myfavorite.

(01:19:28):
That soundtrack is amazing, bythe way.
Yeah, so that's my nominee.
Marvel Cinematic Universe,leron.
What we got, what we nominating?
I nominate Hoodie Brand, bronxBread, bronx Bread.
Why are we nominate?
I nominate Hoodie Brand BronxBread, bronx Bread.
Yes, okay.
Why we nominate Bronx Bread?
It's a fish joint and it's fora minute too, uh-huh, okay.

(01:19:50):
And it's green, and it's green.
Shout out to green.
I like the Bronx.
All right, is green yourfavorite?

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
color.
It's one of them.
One of them.
It's one and a month.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Burgundy is the top.
Burgundy is the top.
Okay, shout out to Bronx Bread.
So we're going to put the LostBoys versus the Marvel Cinematic
Universe versus Bronx Bread onthe Instagram page.
We're going to let y'all voteand the next the one that wins
will be the next inductee intothe TNT Podcast Hall of Fame.

(01:20:23):
So this one's going to be briefbecause I didn't really have a

(01:20:58):
lot of time to give youbackground information on it, so
I'm really just going to giveyou all personal information.
So the next one is DJ Turn Upsong of the day.
Uh, so my song of the day is asong that I feel like to really
do no wrong because it came outin a time when I was a little
younger and I feel like for me,um 2002 and 2000 no, I'll say

(01:21:18):
2001-2003 music could do nowrong for me.
Hip-hop and R&B could do nowrong for me.
Anything that came out that wasa single that was on the radio.
I feel like it had to be a lot.
It had to be really bad for meto not like it, but anyway.
So my song of the day isFrontin' by Pharrell and Jay-Z.
I don't know if y'all arefamiliar with this song, but

(01:21:40):
that's the song that came out in, I think, 2002.
It came out in 2002, tanaka.
Can you fact check that for me?
Fact check that for me?
I feel like it came out in 2002, but, like I said, this was
around the time where 2003, 2003, yeah.
I figured it was because thiswas around the time where I
started getting into like mixCDs.

(01:22:01):
My mom knew somebody that mademix CDs and she was like, yeah,
just write down on a piece ofpaper all the songs and I'll get
a mix CD made for you.
And that was one of the songsthat was on there, just a cool
little laid back track thatgives a real 2000s vibe.
I feel like that's like out oflike Pharrell's like R&B and hip

(01:22:22):
hop songs.
I feel like that's like out oflike Pharrell's like R&B and
hip-hop songs.
I feel like that's like one ofhis bigger songs, like, like I
said, excluding like happy orstuff like that, like more his
pop stuff.
But yeah, I just feel like it'sa well put together song.
That's like just a lot andPharrell fits in there nicely,
jay-z in the track nicely, likenobody, like nobody's gonna like

(01:22:43):
stepping on each other andhonestly, it's a really
interesting perspective to lookback on, because I don't know if
y'all have ever seen the video,but Lauren London is one of the
video girls in the video andit's just interesting to think
about.
It's just think about like theone one you're like oh wow,
that's Lauren London.
Like but, at the time you're notthinking about that, because I

(01:23:03):
don't think anybody knew Warren.
London was in 2003.
Well, yeah, leronn, have youever heard the song before.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Frontin'.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
Jacob, what was your thoughts on Frontin' it was more
of a laid back cool song typething.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Right, because you know this is when he was.
My thing was, you know, bluecrank and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
So yeah, yeah, like I said, it was just the laid-back
cool little R&B slash, hip-hopcollab little track.
I'm trying to think, see if Ican get anything else on the
front end.
If I'm correct, I believePharrell made the beat.
This is when he was withNektoons, correct?

(01:23:49):
Yeah, this is when he was withNektoons.
I'm not sure.
Nektoons isn't a thing anymore,right, tanaka?
I don't think so I want to sayhim and the Asian dude had a bad
falling out or not a badfalling out, but they didn't.
They just went separate ways.

(01:24:10):
They didn't went separate ways.
I feel like they were fightingover the Neptune's name.
Yeah, but yeah, like I said,it's a fairly successful track.
It went gold in the UK andplatinum, yeah, yeah and that's

(01:24:32):
the same.
I think that's the same guy thathe was in our, in our in our
NERD with yeah, yeah, so so yeah, um, but yeah, man, it's a cool
little positive, little littlebop.
So yeah, um, but yeah, man,it's cool, little positive.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Was actually interested about this song just
like going back to the musicvideo, like it's funny that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Lauren London doesn't even play the main girl in the
video Like she plays the maingirl's friend.
She's very it's veryinteresting, but anyway I'm not
gonna hold y'all up.
If you want to lay back trackthat gives you a real good, but
anyway I'm not going to holdy'all up.
If you want a laid back trackthat gives you a real good 2000s
vibe, that's going to make youfeel good.
I highly recommend you listen toFriend, that's DJ Turn Up's

(01:25:11):
song of the day, your face istelling me that you found some
other stuff you want to talkabout, it, you want to share
with the class, sir Nah this isjust crazy, man.

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
I didn't realize that .
I didn't know.
Oh, you didn't know that theyfell out.
I didn't know they fell out.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Truthfully, I'm not going to lie.
I'm going to give a shout outto TikTok.
Tiktok has put me onto a lot ofdifferent information that I
did not know about.
I'm learning stuff likeyesterday that I did not know
about.
It's just a lot of stuff.
There's a lot of stuff ontiktok that you can learn

(01:25:43):
correct like biopics andpeople's background and it's
crazy.
That's actually where I learnedthe uh, dj, uh, I mean not dj,
dr, dre and uncle thing from wasfrom tiktok.
I was like, oh damn, I didn'tknow that was a thing, sure
would you?
Sir, would you like to sharewith the class?

Speaker 4 (01:26:04):
why are you sitting here.
I had no idea that they fellout like that man.
Yeah, apparently I guess hewasn't included in like all the
trademarking and stuff like thatwait, who, pharrell or the
other guy?

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
the other guy?
Okay, let's not bedisrespectfulll, or the other
guy.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
The other guy.
Okay, let's not bedisrespectful.
What's?

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
the other guy's name Chad Hugo.
Chad Hugo.

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
Yeah, so basically all the Neptunes and NERD stuff
is like credited to Pharrell andnot him.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Pharrell, and Pharrell only, because there's
more than just them two.

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
Well, yeah, I guess Pharrell and not him.
Pharrell and Pharrell onlyBecause there's more than just
them two.
Well, yeah, I guess Pharrell'sthe one that trademarked all of
it and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
Well, his first one.
Well, I mean truthfully, thatis dirty, but at the same time
that's business Like if youdon't trademark it, but these
folk been tight since 7th grade.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
What that mean.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
I'm saying what that mean.
I'm saying what that mean.
I'm saying, bro, you can't takethat to court.
Tanaka, I hope you don't evergo to court and be like yeah,
bro, I've known you sinceseventh grade, bro.
I'm saying they've been nephewssince seventh grade and that's
great, but once again, that'show business is, just cold.
It's that cold Can't take thatto court, sir, but um, yeah, so

(01:27:33):
Thank you, sir.

(01:28:02):
Do you have our album of theday?

Speaker 4 (01:28:05):
Yeah, it's Reaching a New, Excuse me, reaching a New
Reputation of Time and SpaceDiggable Planets.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Is that a so wait?
Is that the one that has thesong on it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Yeah, it does.
I can't live on.

Speaker 4 (01:28:21):
I can't live on.
Is that that one?
Yes, man, you're thinking ofthe wrong group.
That's not Dilated Peoples, man.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Oh, that's Dilated.
Oh, my bad, I'm sorry.
Diggable Plants man.

Speaker 4 (01:28:32):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:28:36):
Oh, okay, sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
You all.
Good man, I'm sorry, but yeah,Diggable Plants was a trio, Two
male rappers and one female.
They had um Butterfly uh, who'sit?
Butterfly, Butterfly, DoodleBug and Ladybug Mecca.

(01:29:03):
Um, the reason I rock with themso heavy is cause they had a
different sound, you know, andbut they were just like dope
lyricists, like it was almostlike poetic, the way that they
rap, you know it's like.
And then the production they hadwas like real, real relaxed,
real hip hop, smooth, you know,and they was dope with the

(01:29:26):
lyrics too, like they just had a.
It was just dope Like you know,the way they used to put stuff
together was just dope and Ishor Butterfly is kind of like the
pride and joy, I would say, ofSeattle.
We not really known for a lotof rappers like that, but he's

(01:29:49):
actually from Seattle and yeah,his flow is just crazy.
And then to hear him he hadfeatured on a record in Seattle
by this producer named Jake OneJake 1 and man, it's like.
It just showed how hip hop,like even though you older, like

(01:30:12):
you still got it in you.
You know what I'm saying, causehe's an OG now but like him
rapping on the track showed thathe hadn't lost his touch at all
, like he was just going crazy,but yeah, man really talked
about him.
This album was a dopeexperience really.
Both their projects are prettypretty dope.

(01:30:33):
If you haven't checked them out,you know you're looking for 90s
hip-hop.
There wasn't really too much ongangster rap like that, you
know, but they brought adifferent perspective and, yeah,
I just appreciate what theybrought to the game and seeing
them live when they did like 30years later like just showed

(01:30:57):
that they had the showmanshipand just how much appreciation
their fan base has for them.
You know, even though they onlyhad two albums, they definitely
left a mark I, I would say, inhip-hop.
So definitely check that out.
Debut Project they, of course,are known for their hit single,
rebirth of Slick Cool Like that.

(01:31:21):
And yeah, I feel like that wasjust a perfect representation,
you know, because they all hadtheir own style, the way they'd
say that song, and it was justdope.
You know the way it cametogether.
And it's carried on to thesamples you know, obviously,

(01:31:43):
e-40 has sampled them, you know,in his music.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
It's interesting that , like, like both of those I was
gonna bring that up uh, that Ifeel like both of those samples
came out the same, came out thesame year, um, with yay area and
uh, candy by sleep dog I don'tknow if you've heard that, but
yeah, um, but whether you have,has this been sampled by anybody

(01:32:09):
else?
You know they probably have,but Off top you don't know, I'm
pretty sure.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:24):
Dang, that's crazy.
We beat to rap, we keep beat tolock.
Yeah, it's hard, it's hard.
So is that album a date?
Yeah, oh yeah, that'severything, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
You usually hit them with the album of the day or do
you want to check them out?
Blah, blah, you usually hitthem with that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
Oh yeah, it's their debut album.
They will play this manreaching a new time.
Reputation of time and space.
Um yeah, I really suggestlistening to the whole project,
like just as a whole.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
So what does?
What does okay, so what are thealbum cuts that you uh?

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
that you, that you rock on when I'm from La Femme
in Viettel, nickelback just afew records, but really I feel
like the whole experience ofthat it flows together.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
They got to listen to the whole project.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
I can definitely appreciate albums that put
together like a story and it'sall floating and all that.
I can appreciate that.
Alright, what we got next?
Oh, I know what we got next.
So, leron.
So we have this thing we havewhen we have guests on the show
that we call open topic, wherewe kind of leave the floor up to

(01:33:50):
you.
We can talk about whatever youwant to talk about.
It could be controversial, itcould be not controversial, it
could be a promotion, it couldbe whatever you want it to be.
We're following your lead forthe next until you're ready to
not talk about anything else.
So, leron, the floor is yours.
Wow, that's a lot Sorry, let'ssee.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Just keep it on with the you know DJing.
So, like for me, I like KidCapri.
He did his mix back in 1992with 52 Beats, has all the beats
on it.
So he just you know Beats, hasall the beats On him.
So he just you know, Playsbeats After beats After beats.
These are his beats.
It's beats that you know Fromall the beats that's been in hip
hop.
He has it all in one and it wasa mixtape Back then.

(01:34:34):
Oh, okay, so where I get theresource from Is from, you know,
Some Apple music and stuff andit's called 52 by DJ Kikapri.
And you know he just know howto promote the party.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
You know, okay, tanaka, have you ever heard of
this?
I've never heard of it, nah.
I haven't heard of it so likeis this like something he does
on a mix tape?
Is this like a live thing hedoes Like?

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
what?
Nah, he just did it.
This, like I said back when Iused to press pause and play.
So what he did was he just putall the hot beats together and
he got James Brown mix.
He has different mixes on it,so it's like you listen to one.
You listen to it all at onetime, so it gets you all the
beats.
So when we was growing up,we'll just do freestyles.

(01:35:22):
We just do a cypher, so we justhave the beats going and then
you just bust a rhyme.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Oh it's going and you just bust around.
Yes, that's hard.
No, I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
So yeah, something to check out.
You know it's all those beatsthat we hear now, but you know
he just did it back then when itwas straight off a cassette and
you can kind of still hit acassette playing, so it's that
authentic.
You said this is Kid Capri.
Yes, it's called 52 Beats.
It was back in 1992 that itdropped.

Speaker 2 (01:35:54):
Yeah, that's interesting.
I've never heard of this before.

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
And he did the 50-year-old hip-hop.
What?

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
was that about?

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
Where pretty much he just was dead, he just pretty
much was just.
You know, hip hop turned 50years, so basically it was last
year I believe, and like he dida party, he did that live, but
he was playing like A lot ofcurrent hits, he was just mixing
it in, you know, mix mastertype thing, so that was pretty
good too, and stuff.
You know, even though, like Isaid, a lot of the music I

(01:36:26):
listen to is 90, but I mean, Ilisten to most of the stuff
recent, you know, but I just I'mmore about lyrics.
You know somebody can spelllyrics and then, you know, talk
about something that makes sense, don't just not say anything.
You know everybody has theirown style.
Because that's what I had tolearn, like I said, with me
being in the military, going todifferent states and even in

(01:36:49):
different countries, because,like a lot of music I did pick
up too was when I was in Germany, picked up a lot of music there
.
When I was in um Korea, pickeda lot of music, and when we and
I was deployed to Iraq, I heardtons of music, wow, tons of
music.
So you know, you pick all thesethings up and it just molds you

(01:37:09):
and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
What so?
What was your thoughts on thebattle between Drake and
Kendrick?
Or did you not?
Not with the tech?

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
so you are laughing over here.
So the way I felt was it wastwo different people with the
same company battling over thesame.
So if one was losing money thecompany still was making money,
but it also changed the wholedynamics of who was hot.
So basically it just showed youhad one person who just

(01:37:44):
couldn't miss Drake could notmiss.
Then you had Kendrick Lamarcome up, even though he wasn't
the initial starter of thatbattle beat Because you know, j
Cole started it and then RickRoss kind of started it, but it
ultimately went to K-Dyne.
I mean he killed it and stuff,but it's like wow.
But remember, hip hop is allabout that, because you think

(01:38:05):
about it, you got to have twodegrees.
So whenever somebody say Tupac,what are they going to say?
Biggie?
When they're going to say Nas,they're going to say Hope.
See what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
So it has to be two people going at it, no matter
what, even though they're bothunder the same management.
So did you hear all of therecords that were?

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
released.

Speaker 4 (01:38:25):
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
I did I mean and in your personal opinion who do you
feel like what's crazy when yousay that is because most people
say that Kendrick won.
Then some people say Drake wonthe long run.
But then again, look whathappened.
They kind of had to kill him.
You know, bring him back downto reality, because he couldn't

(01:38:48):
miss anything.
He put out, it was a hit, eventhough his sound was starting to
sound the same over and over.
But you got to remember, to behonest, they're really two
different rappers, believe it ornot.
Kendrick's more like a battlerapper to me, where he can just
go do.
He can do the battle thing andkill it.
But Drake was just singinghooks and he had the fan base

(01:39:08):
behind him.
But, as you can see, due toTikTok and everybody doing that
Squad Boy song, that's whatraised up.
You know so, but I can't evenReally I would just say I would
say Kendrick won it because ofhow the accolades he got behind

(01:39:28):
this record.
Yeah, he won that part.

Speaker 4 (01:39:32):
So, okay, because it's just interesting, I like to
get a different perspective,you know, being that you know
what I'm saying.
You come from a differentgeneration of hip-hop.
For our generation, this is,like you know, our two heavy
hitters, you know hip hopartists going at it, correct.
So I just always like to seewhat you know other generations

(01:39:55):
perspective is on the battle andstuff.
You know, because I know who Iyou know feel like when turn on
those who you know feel like one, and that's that's really who
we've been standing like,standing by, I feel like from
day one.
You know we gave both artists afair chance to win this battle,

(01:40:16):
you know.
But at the end of the day, youknow, I think this is spade.
So you know, just just curiousto see what.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
how see how you looked at it.
So let me ask you this, LaRon,since we're talking about this
how do you feel about Draketaking?

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
this to court, which crazy is, because he was doing
the same thing when it was inhis favor.
Now that things are not in hisfavor, now it's a problem.
He can't have it both ways.
So basically, I think the mainthing with him was more because
of the word he used, even thoughhe didn't say his name directly

(01:40:54):
.
He just said it in a line, buteverybody assumed so it's more
like back in the days with nwa,how they was going to do because
they were talking about thepolice, and then they also made
them become, oh, they hate thepolice.
No, they were just talkingabout the police that they were
going through, they weren'ttalking about all the police.

(01:41:14):
So it's all about your wording.
So with him, you know him usingthe court system to work behind
him.
It just showed a wholedifferent side.
Then again you did the samething, because when you went
against Push which I guesseverybody forgot about that when
he went against Pusher T, comeon now, what?
What was the difference?

Speaker 4 (01:41:34):
But then the times was different then so how did
you feel about that battle,Pusher T.

Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
I mean, you know, to me Pusher got more of a metaphor
of flow.
You know, to me Pusha got moreof a metaphor flow, you know.
But you know his thing.
He's on that drug dealer, thisdrug dealer, that type thing.
And then Drake was pretty muchthe ladies man type thing.
So it's like even then thatwasn't equal.
I mean, it's like going back inthe days when you had Kumo D

(01:42:02):
bowing at Ice-T.
A lot of people don't knowabout that or can't remember
that Iced tea.
The dude who's on the TV now,mm-hmm Kumo D.
You don't see him no more, buthe's still around and he was
killing it back in them days,treacherous 3.
Ooh, weak yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
Yeah, I just look.
I just feel like that wasn'tthe right move for Drake to take
rap beef to court.
That was just my opinion, evenif he didn't have all these

(01:42:47):
battles with Pusha T or MeekMill or Common or whomever else.
And I don't know if you'refamiliar with this, and I feel
like you are, because you seemlike a hip-hop head.
Do you remember thedocumentaries we had called Beef
?
Do you remember thosedocumentaries when they would
talk about the different artiststhat were going against each
other?

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
Yeah, I watched it.
Matter of fact, me and my wifewatched that whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
How many times did you see anybody go to court?

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
None.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
So why now?
I mean I, like Tupac wastalking about having sex with
Biggie's wife, ice Cube talkedabout the whole NWA getting
raped by a white man.
Right Like let's not even talkabout all the stuff 50 Centna
said about Ja.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
Rule.

Speaker 1 (01:43:26):
Correct, Because he sure went on and on Right, but
you're taking this to court.
I don't know.
That's just something I can'tLike.
I can't even listen to none ofhis disses anymore because it's
like, bro, you took it to court,Like that's like, and I told
Tanaka this off air.
I'm like that's like you in aroast battle at school and you

(01:43:53):
going to tell the teacherBecause you got roasted Like are
we really Right?

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
I don't know, I don't know that just whacked me, but
I don't know.
Teach is on but, like I said,it's big in a lot of things
because it's more of thiscompany versus company.
Because it's more of thiscompany versus company, just
like when you want to go back tothe East Coast West Coast beef,
that really wasn't about Tupacand Biggie, that was Defro and
Bad Boys, that was label versuslabel to be honest, truthfully,

(01:44:19):
I feel like the media made thatbecause, honestly, I feel like
if it was really East Coastversus West Coast Method.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Man and Red.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
Man wouldn't have been on All Eyes On Me.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
And a lot of people there's a verse out there with
Expected Deck and Tupac that'sgoing around.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
Like you said, TikTok , we have a lot of stuff, a lot
of stuff, right, a lot of stuff.
Tiktok, yeah, tiktok is what'sputting folks on man you find
out a lot of stuff on TikTok,but yeah, man, I don't know, I
just can't, so okay, so let meask you this because somebody

(01:44:59):
somebody in our circle, issaying that he, um, doesn't
respect kendrick because hefeels like he lied on a couple
of his diss diss records.
How do you feel about that?
Do you feel like?
Do you feel like that shouldmake a difference?
Or?

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
I don't know how do you feel about it?
I believe it's more about somepeople just really say certain
things as for a line purpose,Not you know, line for line.
That's how Kendrick speak.
When he's flowing, he's sayingwords that connect to words.
Now he may I mean he may tellsomething, maybe different or
whatever, but it's really on theperson.

(01:45:30):
So if they feel like that, theytaking it way too personal,
like they know Kendrick andthat's wrong.
You don't know him, so justlike you don't know the person
he talking about.
It is what it is.
It was for entertainmentpurpose.
We went WWE here, WWE or WWFback in the days, right?

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
and we're taking it to court, and that's, that's a
whole.
That's a whole.
Another story no and that's.
That's a whole another storythat I'll tell you.
I'll tell you all, fair Tanaka,because I don't want to, I
don't want to bore people withthe wrestling story.
But, um, yeah, you know whatfuck it I'll say, I'll tell the
story.
So it was a situation thathappened in wrestling that kind
of is kind of similar to that,to where they had a script on

(01:46:13):
how, um, a certain joint wascalled was supposed to go and
basically, well, for thewrestling folks that do listen
to the tnt podcast, they knowthis as bash of the beach 2000.
So basically there was a scriptthat was supposed to go one way
.
It didn't go the other way andthen it didn't go the way that
it was supposed to go.
The guy came out, startedtalking shit about hulk hogan
you know that name right startedtalking shit about hulk hogan,

(01:46:35):
and then hulk hogan was on aplane going somewhere else and
then, once he landed, he got hisphone blown up like yo, you
heard what dude said about you,quit the company, sue the
company.
And like the folks the folksare in court, like wait a minute
, you're, you're suing him forsomething to happen on wrestling
.
And like they're like why areyou wasting your time, like what

(01:47:00):
are we doing here?
Like you're suing me.
It was really weird.
But yeah, that's immediatelywhat I thought about when I
thought about this drakesituation.

Speaker 4 (01:47:09):
But um, yeah, so what was the outcome of that?

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
so they said there was.
They said, they said there wasa settlement, but nobody knows
about the settlement.
I guess the only person thatknows is hulk hogan, and hulk
hogan is known to be a liar.
So I mean, can we reallybelieve?
I don't know, I can't reallybelieve him.
But yeah, what we got, what wegot next, dj Talk, dj Talk.

(01:47:37):
Alright, unless y'all gotsomething else y'all want to add
.
Okay, I think it's DJ Talk.
So DJ Talk is going to maybebreathe, but we'll see what
happens.
And, laron, we'll include youon this.
Just because you're abusinessman, so we'll add you to

(01:48:03):
the DJ Talk as well, just froma different standpoint.
So, tanaka, I got a questionfor you.
What's that?
You DJ a lot and we talk abouta lot, a lot, a lot.
I DJ a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot.
We I DJ a lot, a lot, a lot.
So let's, let's talk about aday.
What's some, what's some thingsthat you do on when you're not
DJing.
You're off day, you're notDJing.

(01:48:25):
You got 24 hours to yourself.
What's a day in the life of DJTanaka?

Speaker 4 (01:48:31):
Day in the life.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
Okay, my bad.
I know you're going to go overthis.
Hold on, I'm going to get morespecific, nothing is coming up.
Nothing is happening in thefuture.
You don't have to prepare foranything.
The thing you prepare for isdone.
That was yesterday, you're done.
Nothing is coming up.
You get a day to chill out.

(01:48:58):
I know I know Tanaka.
I know Tanaka, he's going tooverthink everything.
So Tanaka Day in the life of DJTanaka on his off day.

Speaker 4 (01:49:08):
So is this including Shot by Tanaka?

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
Sure, let's add him too.
Shot by Tanaka slash.

Speaker 4 (01:49:15):
No, I'm saying all my work, including Shot by Tanaka
Sure, let's add him too.
Shot by Tanaka slash.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
No, I'm saying, I'm saying like Like all, my work
for Shot by Tanaka is completed.
Everything is completed.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
So I just have a completely free day.

Speaker 4 (01:49:23):
Completely free day, I just had to clarify that you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
Now you see what I go through every day.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
I just had to clarify .
Day in the life.
So it's a day off.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
Day off.
I mean we're trying to make itjust because it's DJ talk.

Speaker 4 (01:49:41):
But if you want to add shot by talk too, we can add
that.
Well, no, I'm just saying likeif I wasn't doing them DJ stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
Yes, all your work is done.
Then I'd be out here sendingvideos out.

Speaker 4 (01:49:47):

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
All your work is done .

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
You did that.
I mean a day in life, Iprobably.
Well, I'm trying to get backworking out, you know what I'm
saying.
But usually I wake up exercise,which could either consist of
like you know what I'm saying,like exercise and exercising, or
like just going skating, youknow, cause that's usually my

(01:50:15):
form of exercise, for it to keepme in shape, probably get some
food.
I'm a big food head, you knowwhat I'm saying Either cook food
or get food.
You know one of the two?

Speaker 1 (01:50:35):
That's a good question, I mean so food and
skating, food, skating, exercise.
That's a perfect day for Tanaka.
That's a perfect day.

Speaker 4 (01:50:45):
That's a perfect off day for Tanaka probably spend
time with you know, with thecrew.
You know what I'm saying likeif we able to usually if it's an
off day I would arrange forlike the whole crew to get
together.
You know, we I'm saying like,like if we able to, usually if
it's an off day, I would arrangefor like the whole crew to get
together.
You know, we just uh do somefun stuff, like how we did with
um and jerry's.
Yeah, yes, you know, um, youknow, or uh, or even like

(01:51:10):
getting food, I'll probably,like you know, maybe get lunch
or dinner with, like you knowknow, a friend I ain't seen in a
minute.
Catch up with him, right.
But yeah, other than that, ifit's nighttime I'd probably just
relax and watch a show or amovie.
You know, trying not to, yeah,think about all the other work

(01:51:32):
that you right, of course, yes,of course you know what I'm
saying right, um.

Speaker 1 (01:51:38):
So basically, ladies and gentlemen, the moral of the
story, the work, is never done.

Speaker 4 (01:51:42):
Yeah, the work is never done, man, but uh no, I I
probably enjoy outside, though Ithink that's the main thing.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
Like so enjoy outside .

Speaker 4 (01:51:51):
Yeah, like just being outside an environment, being
that we dj so much, you know, weoftentimes are inside, we're
not that often in the outsideenvironment.
So, and we all know howimportant the sun is to health
and everything and breathingfresh air and, um, you know,
even though it's pollen season,I can still appreciate the

(01:52:13):
beauty also.
And, yeah, I feel like justbeing in nature kind of allows
your minds to kind of processdifferent things, process things
differently, you know, and webe listening to music a lot.
Sometimes you gotta listen tonature, you know, and we be

(01:52:34):
listening to music a lot.
Sometimes you gotta listen tonature, you know.
So, facts that's, uh, it's aday in the life of I don't know
when they, I don't know.
I really sound like an oldperson for real, because it's
whatever you want to be.
I'm saying I'm saying because,like, because I like to observe
society, you know what I'msaying.
So, like even going to the parkand seeing like kids like you

(01:52:56):
know what I'm saying how theyjust be interacting and stuff
like that, or just you knowother folks, how they be, you
know, it's just interesting tosee society, like just walking
around, you know, even going tolike a shop, like a little food
shop or you know, here and there, whatever, just seeing
different interactions that folkbe having, what people are
wearing, you know it's like soyou're a mall walker, I wouldn't

(01:53:20):
say a mall walker.
I don't like to go to the malllike that, because that's you
know, maybe like, uh, you know,like at the battery, how they
have like different, yeah, theopen.
Yeah, I get what you're sayinglike piedmontiedmont Park or
something I got you Not a mallwalker?

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
Not yet.

Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
When you say mall walker, it's inside.
That's why I wouldn't say thatper se, because I like to be
outside.
We haven't got to that age yetNot.

Speaker 1 (01:53:45):
Mall walking, not yet .
Alright.
Anyway, let's see.
Perfect day in the life of turnup trying to think so, wake up,
get on the phone, see all thenotifications on my instagram.

(01:54:07):
Probably go on my dev and page.
See if there's anynotifications there.
Probably sit there for a littlebit, listen to a podcast, play
the games on my phone.
Sit in bed for I didn't neednotifications there probably sit
there for a little bit, listento a podcast, play the games on
my phone.
Sit in bed for like a good twoor three hours, um, and I'll
probably get hungry.
Go to the fridge, makesomething, eat something.
Go back to TV, watch, watchsome, watch some wrestling or

(01:54:27):
something.
Play a video game, marvelsomething, um, marvel something.
And yeah, depending on if Ihave something planned, probably
hang out with the hang out withfolks, like you said, seeing if
Tanaka has a Soulful Sunday ora cascade Sunday or drip as a

(01:54:49):
cascade Sunday, or I don't know.
Breezy has a Metro Cafe orThrowback.
Thursday or you know AC willhave the little reggae radio
show or Royal Peacock or youknow just a whole bunch of
mixture of Tonic having MetroDiner all of them have Metro

(01:55:12):
Diner.
Just a whole bunch of differentstuff.
Just see, if my social that'sanother thing If my social
battery is at a good point, I'llgo outside and do that type of
stuff.
Yeah, other than that, I justchill at home Video games, music
, clean the house, just adultstuff.

(01:55:33):
That's the day in the life ofme.
I'm trying to think is thereanything else?
I feel like I'm missingsomething.
I'ma be mad when I listen backto this because I know I'ma miss
something.
But yeah, that's basically it.
I'm a pretty simple, I'm prettysimple human being.
Yeah, so, leron, all your workis done, everything is done.
You ain't gotta worry aboutnobody.

(01:55:54):
All the chores is done in thehouse.
You ain't got to worry aboutnothing.
Well, what's what's day in thelife of of LaRon?
What's a perfect day for LaRon?

Speaker 3 (01:56:01):
Um, of course you know I got to check with wifey,
make sure, ain't nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
That's what I'm saying.
Everything is checked.
That's good.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
Everything is good she's not, we keep it simple
we'll just sit down watch seewhat type of series or show we
watch either Netflix, tubi orwhat's the other one, this other
channel that I have we'll justwatch a series and we try to
complete the whole series in oneday, or we just get far enough.

(01:56:32):
You know, we're just relaxingand chilling.
Like I said, I live the easylife, I be lifin' that's it.
I feel you, that's a great wayto live.

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
Just keep it simple.
It's just chilling, justchilling.
Question, since you said you'dbe watching Just Shot in the
Dark, have you watched thatAaron Hernandez show?
Dad joins it's crazy, dad joins, that joint is deep.
Yeah, it's crazy, that joint isdeep.
Good Lord, tanaka, you knowabout Aaron Hernandez, right?
Yeah, did you watch any of it?
I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:05):
I just listened to some of like the.

Speaker 4 (01:57:07):
I read some like articles and then listened to
some of the like, the audio of,like the.
You know what I'm saying fromjail and all that?
Oh, the like the audio like the.
You know what I'm saying fromjail and all that?
Oh, like the real stuff.
Yeah, but I haven't actuallywatched the, the show.

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
I'd recommend it.
That's a good one.
I was like whoa, I mean, causeI had watched the documentary
they had put out in Netflix, butI didn't watch, yeah, I didn't
watch the TV show.
So when they said TV, I waslike, oh okay, let me check this
out.
Yeah, it got it got real realquick.
I was like whoa, this isinteresting.
Um, but uh, yeah, so okay, sobefore we go back, before we go

(01:57:48):
to our schedule I'm just gonnaapologize because I'm not gonna
lie.
I don't know how we've gone.
I don't know, i'm't know howwe've gone.

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
I don't know.
I'm just gonna assume we'vegone like an hour.
I'm assuming it's been like twohours or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
And we have not talked about Rovere t-shirts at
all.
I know we got deep diving tohip hop, but just give a
background story of how that'sbeen.

Speaker 3 (01:58:12):
Alright, so how?
Rovere t-shirts and more comeabout.
It's a simple.
You know I love designs, I lovehoodies and stuff and with me
and my wife she bought my firstcutting machine, right, didn't
have a clue what I was doing andwe just went from there to make
it to where it's doing now.
So you know, we just do customT-shirts.

(01:58:32):
You know we do vinyl, we do DTFand everything, and then we do
every other thing behind it andstuff.
So it's like once we started,you just couldn't stop.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
Facts, facts, facts, facts.
Well, you want to tell thefolks where they can find you at
or follow you at on the socials.

Speaker 3 (01:58:49):
On the socials.
You can follow me at RoviraT-shirts and that's spelled
R-O-V-I-R-A-T-E-E-S-H-I-R-T,with a Z at the end, and our
website isroviritshirtsandmorecom and from
there you can see.
If you want to put a quote inor anything, you can see what we

(01:59:13):
have on site because we alsohave clothing line that we have
started.
You know I got, but God, that'sour clothing line that we have
started to.
And yeah, just check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
You want to talk about that.
How did that get started?

Speaker 3 (01:59:25):
Of course, once again with my wife.
She's really the brains to theoperation and we just, you know,
combined together and it waslike, you know, we just want
positive messages.
You know, being that the wayhow a lot of things is going
around, there's still goodpeople around and, you know, god
does control a lot of thingsthat we do.

(01:59:48):
So we just want to put it outon a display.
So we have, you know, bud Godshirts that we have on it.
Like I said, just go to thesite and check it out, be
interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
Go ahead and check it out.
Man, check it out.
We got left.
Oh, the schedule correct.
So, ladies and gentlemen, forour schedule, my schedule will
be up by this point.
Just go on my Instagram andfollow me at DJTurnUp, djtj,
t-u-u-r-n-u-u-p.
Same thing for tiktok.
Twitter is a little different.
Just don't put the dj on it.

(02:00:19):
Same spelling it's turn up andum, trying to think is anything
else?
Nope, that's about it.
So, yeah, all my schedules willbe on there.
Go check that out.
Tanaka, where can they find youat?

Speaker 4 (02:00:32):
um, it's april 1st, by the way.
I really gotta, I really gottacopy your style.
I just, I don't know, it'd justbe a lot.
I'd be trying to think to makea schedule yeah, cause I'd be
trying to think of how to likedo I?
Let's talk about it, I start tooverthink that joint for real.

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
Okay, well, let's figure it out.
What is it that you beoverthinking about?

Speaker 4 (02:01:00):
Well, because, like, do I put the Shabbat Tanaka
stuff on there too, like whenI'm going to be filming tight?

Speaker 1 (02:01:06):
Well, you got two Instagrams, why not?

Speaker 4 (02:01:12):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:01:14):
It just I don't know it just be like, and then
sometimes, and then it'sdifferent too, and I don't think
, once again, I don't get myroses.
I was gonna put I was gonna getmy roses in a future Hall of
Fame, but I'm gonna get my roses.
Tanaka, you really started apandemic with this, with this
shot by situation.
I don't know if you know well,you do know this.
I don't know why he's gonna.
He's going to act modest andgoing to be like, but if you
look, go on Instagram and typein shot by, there is like seven

(02:01:38):
of them.
And a lot of them have.
Like a lot of them have thesame black, same black.
Some of them started to changetheir joint, but there's a lot
of shot bys now and it's becauseof you, and some of them are
starting to do recaps now.
Nobody did that, Nobody wasdoing that, and yeah, and then

(02:02:02):
once again, and if you do that,then they're probably going to
start doing that too.
Shout out to Music Shine.
I'm not stepping on his toes oranything.
I feel like I'm not stepping onhis toes by saying that.
But when I put my schedule outthere, he hit me up and was like
yo, bro, you really inspired meto put my schedule, make a
schedule.
So you know, bro, do it, Go forit.

(02:02:23):
I feel like it's different.
I feel like you know rolemodels, skate love, ATL,
visionaries, skate mentality.
I feel like, yeah, exactlyright, A lot of them we're
talking right now, but yeah, soyeah, I mean yeah, yeah, I'm
right, but I don't know.

(02:02:43):
I feel like with Shabbat Tanakh.

Speaker 4 (02:02:48):
I feel like it's a little different because you're
not obligated to be.
Yeah, it kind of also spurred amoment with the Shabbat Tanakh
thing.

Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
And I will say this with the Shabbat Sanaga thing,
and I will say this I don't knowif one of your questions is
well, what if something comes up, or what if something changes,
or something like that.
That's what I don't know.
If you know this, events aresubject to change.
You know where I got that fromWrestling Everywhere On all the
flyers it says events subject tochange, always.
So they can't be like oh, turnup, you said you're gonna be a

(02:03:17):
metro diner.
Why are you?

Speaker 4 (02:03:19):
you know what it, all right, you know what it is, man
, these rinks, some they don't.
They don't consistently sendtheir schedule out, and so it's
like I always be having to tradeshifts around.
Just so that you know what I'msaying, I feel you, so I feel
like when this drops April 1st,it's like Something different.

(02:03:43):
I still need to.
I'm still trading aroundsessions, trying to make sure
nothing is conflicting.
I'm not double booking stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:03:53):
Well, I just feel like that comes with consistency
.
So I will say this so when,when the situation happens with
me where I get all my schedulesand everybody's brought
everything to me and I put myschedule out, I put my yeah, my
schedule out and there is asituation where I have to switch
, but I already put my scheduleout, I won't promote that day.
And I'm at a point where thepeople know that if I don't

(02:04:16):
promote that day, I'm probablynot going to be there.
So it's like one of thosethings where somebody will hit
me up.
It'll probably be, like one ortwo or three people will be,
like, hey, turn up.
I noticed you didn't post aboutSparkloops, are you not coming?
And I'll be like, oh shoot,yeah, my bad, I forgot to say
that.
Yeah, I'm not, and, honestly,that's why I like the notes too.

(02:04:36):
So I'm like, hey, so quickchange, I'm not going to be at,
I'm off or whatever.
I'm sick.

Speaker 4 (02:04:43):
Well, yeah, so to everybody.
Usually, if you check my note,that's where I post.

Speaker 1 (02:04:55):
I'm always for sure if I'm DJingj, I'm always
posting on the dope, you know,and is it?
Is it because it's like alittle easier to just post?
Hey, I'm gonna be here on thenotes rather than making a whole
story or making a whole posteror something like that yeah, I
mean, I guess I could but no, no, no and no.
That's why I asked, because Iknow, I know, I know, when you
make a story you gotta make, yougotta figure out what picture
you're gonna post or something.
Nope, you just write it.
Yeah, it's all.
No, I feel like it's dropping.

Speaker 2 (02:05:15):
Yeah, it's dropping.

Speaker 1 (02:05:16):
Yeah, I feel like I wish the note was obviously
older.

Speaker 4 (02:05:19):
Honestly, yeah, I probably would have just been
doing that too, yeah, but, but,but, um, because, yeah, that's
why it's like so, for instance,like golden glide, like they
still haven't sent theirschedule.
And like you know we're howmany days away from April, you
know what I mean.
So, like I'm probably going toget that like two days from now

(02:05:42):
and then I'm going to be havingto scramble around because I'm
going to be like double booked,yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:05:49):
Yeah, that's how it goes, or even cascade for that
matter.

Speaker 4 (02:05:55):
We haven't even received that officially, boy,
let's not talk about that.

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
Oh boy, talk about an interesting week, Not even a
week, a couple days, that jointright there, but anywho.
Oh wait, did you ever say yourschedule?
Or are you not saying yourschedule?
Do you know where you're gonnabe at, at least?

Speaker 4 (02:06:23):
April 6th I'll be Supporting Drip as Trail Ride,
cascade Session, cascade Sunday.
Make sure y'all Tap in withthat.
Bring your Cow, cowgirl, cowboyOutfits.

Speaker 1 (02:06:41):
So not just Are you gonna wear, you wearing your
joint For the photo shoot.

Speaker 4 (02:06:47):
I gotta get outfits For that, but I don't even know
If I can skate, so that's that'skind of a question.
But I will be there supportingthem.
13th, I'll be at SparklesGwinnett for a Caribbean night.
April 20th, I'll be at AA forSoul Sunday I think I'm not

(02:07:16):
positive.
I think Cascade Sunday, april27th, but that still is yet to
be confirmed Trap Fever on the12th, I believe, and then

(02:07:36):
Spargo's Gwinnett on the 11th,19th and the 26th.
That's well.
Yeah, that's subject to change.
Yeah, I don't know.
Subject to change and then MetroDonner, like Thursdays and
Fridays get around.
But yeah, just look out for thenotes for the official check

(02:08:02):
out the notes.

Speaker 1 (02:08:04):
Alright, y'all, thank you.
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