On Episode 122 of The TLB Podcast, James speaks with visual artist and former CIA analyst Jessica Elder to explore her journey out of the intelligence community into art, the CIA’s internal culture, the creative potentials of 3D printing, reclaiming identity through creativity, and how secrets shape self-expression.
Support the Show:
Early access on Patreon → https://tinyurl.com/mva2z9se
Audio-only on Spotify → https://tinyurl.com/ytfnwx6s
Connect with Jessica Elder:
Website → https://www.jessicaelderart.com
Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/jesselder.art
TikTok → https://www.tiktok.com/@jessica.et.cetera
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
06:03 - Bureaucratic Culture
12:40 - The Overt vs. Covert Roles
14:45 - Unclassified Facts
22:05 - Internal Humor
31:35 - Spicy Memes
39:13 - Transitioning to Art
48:36 - Art and Money Laundering
55:51 - Navigating the Art World
57:18 - Art Installations in Government Spaces
01:04:40 - Pursuing Your Passion vs. Stability
01:19:06 - Creating Art for the CIA
#artandintelligence #CIAinternals #3Dprinting #creativeidentity #thetlbpod
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