April 5, 2025 • 27 mins
Shane Haff joins Mark Henry Jr. and Sean Barnard to dive into the #NFLDraft.
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
That's my coast over there, Sean Bernard. I think you've
been on the show with Sean before. Yes, But Sean,
I'll let Sean kind of ask you the question that
he just asked me. Before I give my full answer,
I'll kick you off on it.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah. Sure, So, Shane, thanks for popping on.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Always good to chat with you and me and Mark
kind of I'm getting my deep dive into the draft
right now. Asking my questions. He's kind of filling me up,
catching me up to speed as I started playing the
process here. So the question that I just laid out
for Mark was looking at this from an Eagles perspective. Obviously,
the last pick of the first round, which tends to
happen when you want a super Bowl. There who are
some guys that we should have our eyes on from
an Eagles draft perspective.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, you know, we can put our eye on guys.
And I just feel like, what's inevitably gonna happen is
we're gonna watch the draft for three and a half
hours on Thursday night and pick thirty two is gonna
come up, and we're gonna think, yeah, like, there's this
guy on the board. We really like, let's make the pick.
I can go to bed happy. I'm gonna be really
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tired at work tomorrow, and then the Eagles are gonna
trade out just like they did in twenty eighteen, and
we're just gonna have to wait another twenty four hours
for the draft. But all that, all that aside, because
I think that's very much on the table.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You know, I'm very.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Big on approaching the draft without like obvious needs that
you must fill, and I think the Eagles do a
really good job of that. I mean, you look at
like deficiencies in the edgresher rotation. They go sign guys
like Josh Ucha and Aziz Ojulari, and you look at
maybe concerns about your cornerback room, and they go and
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they sign Adria Jackson, and none of these are big
deals that preclude them from making selections there in the
first round. But it doesn't make you force around or
square peg into a round hole, which I guess I
guess a round peg would go into a square hole,
but emphasizing was right. Anyways, you don't have to do that,
And so I do like that a few guys that
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I really like at the back end of the first round.
I mean, if Derek Harmon or Walter Nolan are there,
I think they make a lot of sense for the
Eagles because you have, you know, in Jalen Carter, you
have a guy that's a force multiplier on the middle,
and so you know, if you go and draft a
Derek Harmon or Walter Nolan, you know they're good players
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on their own, but you can sort of multiply their
value in the fact that they're consistently going to get
easier matchups because they line up across from Jalen Carter.
And so I do think like those two guys make
a lot of sense if either one of them is
on the board, if you want to go to like
Ed Rusher. I know there's been things about like James
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Pierce and maybe some concerns, and I'm not going to
really wait into that. I'll just say if he checks out,
if those things for him check out some real quick.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Not to cull you off.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Something Shane and I always like to say is we're
not doctors, we're not investigators, Like we're just talking ball
like we were. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
That's that's for big down to figure out.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, which is wonderful because it allows me to sit
here and say, hey, James Pierce is a great player,
but I'm not putting my job on the line if
you draft him and it doesn't work out for off
field things. But I mean, if it checks out, like
he would be a slam dunk pick. Also, like if
that all checks out, he probably isn't there at thirty two.
But you never know what teams are willing to take
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take on risk wise, So you know, trenches I think
are very much in play for the Eagles, especially on
the defensive side. On the offensive side, I don't necessarily
love an offensive lineman in the first round, because I
don't think drafting an interior player in the first round
is good value. And I just never liked the idea of, like,
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let's draft a right tackle of the future and we'll
play him at right guard for now, because inevitably that
road leads one of two places, and that's that he's
really good at right guard. And so two years down
the roads you say, well, he's been really good at
right guard, let's not move him out to tackle, and
then you essentially effectively drafted a right guard in the
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first round. And the Eagles didn't do it in the
first round, but it's the same logic they used with
Landon Dickerson. Let's draft him to be a center replacement
for Jason Kelcey. He'll play left guard for now. What
do you know, he's great at it. Let's actually draft
a center to replace Jason Kelcey. And so you see
that logic. The other road is, man, this guy kind
of stinks at right guard, and then you ask yourself, well,
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is you're going to be better going to tackle, which
is a harder position to play. So I'm kind of
out on the idea of like drafting a tackle to
play guard in the first round, and generally don't think
a guard is great value in the first round. But
one offensive guy that I would really like in the
first round, and I don't know that the Eagles would
do it, but Colston Loveland is a guy that I
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would really like if he's there. And again I don't
know that he's going to get there, but given all
signs point to the Eagles moving on from Dallas Goddard,
and I do think that leaves a huge hole in
your tight end room because I'm not a big Grant
Calcatara guy. Colston Loveland, And again, you can get into
positional value like a tight end in the first round
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and an offense that's run heavy with AJ Brown and
DeVante Smith. But at the end of the day, I
think it's you look at it as locking in a
guy that I think is going to be very good
for five years, and you just are naturally transitioning from
Dallas s Gooddart who was very good to another tight end.
And the Eagles love to get into twelve personnel, and
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I think you can give him some inline blocking responsibilities there,
so he's an offensive pick I would like. I kind
of feel like the Eagles will end up, as they
often do in the trenches on the defensive side.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Of the ball. Though, Yeah, I'm actually so. I really
like Loveland. I have Loveland twelve overall. I was surprised
to hear you love.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Him as an Eagles fit, though, because I'm definitely kind
of scared of his blocking ability. I guess in our
offense and we do ask tight ends to block so often.
I have another question I want to get to about
that pick thirty two, But do you think Loveland would
be able to hang at kind of what the Eagles
asked the tight end to do from blocking perspective, and
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do you think he's a guy that the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Are going to look at because of that?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I think I think immediately, like if you plugged him in,
he is a step down from Goddard as a blocker,
and I think he's a step up as a receiver.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
However, I do think he's a little better blocker than
he's given credit for being.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Also, he's just big and he's willing as a blocker,
and I think you can do a lot with an
athletic guy who is.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Big, framed and willing as a blocker.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You know, there's technical things that you can that he
needs to clean up, and he blocks better out of
the slot, and like you're not gonna ask him to
one on one block defensive ends a lot of times
and things like that. But I do think he projects
favorably and like his development is a run blocker if
that's what a team wants him to focus on. So
I think there's some better reps out there then people
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typically go to with him. And I also think he
could develop a lot more consistency there with good coaching.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
A lot of rumors with Colson Lovelin that the Chargers
may even trade up to get him, that Harball is
like in love with him from his Michigan days, and
a lot of Michigan guys in the draft, so i'd
be it'd be interesting if Harball does end up with
one of them at twenty two or are moving up
for them.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
But yeah, if Harball likes him, you know he can
run block because it doesn't want to throw the ball anyways.
So exactly, you're exactly right, that's that's a good that's
a good feather in the cap for the Colston Loveland
can block people.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
If Harball wants to trade up for him.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, And I'm honestly like, I'm trying to get you
to talk me into putting Loveland high on my Eagles
big board.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Because I hadn't twelve. Overall, I love the guy. I
I didn't think of him as an Eagles potential guy.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
But I'm you're you're talking me, and let me ask
you about another position of need. Obviously you mentioned that
Goddard probably the way Sirianni answered that question.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Maybe let's get trade.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, that was the least leverage inspiring answer I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But whatever you see if you plant a flower.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, that was insane.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
He could not have sounded.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Like more traded already or cut already if you tried.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I obviously a position of need it would be would
be safety. After trading Chauncey Gardner Johnson. I have three
safeties graded as first round prospects. They're all back end
of the first round prospects, but we're picking the back end.
I think there's probably only one that's being kind of
consensus created in the first round, and that's Malachi Starks.
There's another two with Xavier Watson, Nick Manwory, who probably
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are more second round guys. Maybe they sneak into the
back end of the first but are any of them
possibilities at thirty two good fits for the Eagles? Maybe
Day two targets. Where are you feeling about the safety
position for this draft?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, so safety is actually the last position that I
have to watch, so I have I am not very
far down the safety at rabbit hole yet. I mean,
it seems like Stark's is just not even going to
be in range for the Eagles. Yeah, I get the
vibe he's going to go early. Also, I mean, maybe
things change if a guy that's just supposed to go
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really early is all of a sudden available at thirty two,
although something would have had to have happened that we
don't know about. But he doesn't really fit like the
athletic profile of what the Eagles tend to go after either.
So I just kind of think he's a not going
to be in range for the Eagles, and b if
he does. If he was, he wouldn't really at their profile.
Emon Warry is interesting because he blew up the combine
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and like, and I haven't watched him a lot, so
but as you as you watch him some he doesn't
it doesn't feel like he's as rangy ke film as
his athletic testing. I mean, he gets to the ten
point zero relative athletics score and that automatically makes your
eyes pop. But obviously it's a place the Eagles need
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to look at because you think about last season and
when there were safety injuries, and the Eagles didn't have
a lot of those, but there were times Vonte Maddox
was kind of the first guy off of the bench,
and the Eagles let Avonte Maddox walk for almost a
minimum contract to the Lions, and so you get into
this game of like, well, does that mean they trust
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Sidney Brown if they weren't willing to pay Avonte Maddox
one and a half million dollars. Well, if they did
trust Sidney Brown, why wasn't he the backup safety last year?
And so you get into all kinds of things there,
and it's definitely, in my opinion, the gest hole on
the roster, because you know, I think Read Blanken hips
a fine safety, but you need two of them, and
Chauncey Gardner Johnson's gone, and so I don't know what
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they're gonna do there. You know, isn't going to be
Sidney Brown. Do they feel comfortable walking into a season
with Sidney Brown being their guy? I don't think so.
I think that they are probably going to add a safety,
and if it's not through the draft, maybe it's post
draft in a Justin Simmons or a Julian Blackman, or
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you know, one of those safeties that's still out there
that can just get you a base level of competency.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
You know, are they going to move Cooper to Gene?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's safety, which I would absolutely hate, by the way,
So safety is a big question mark, and unfortunately it's
one of the few positions I don't have very many
definitive opinions on yet either.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Let's uh, I'm gonna throw it to I got a
little co hosception going on here, my my podcast co
host and my radio cost I'll throw it to Sean
to add to.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Ask ask Shane a draft question here.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah, Shane, So I asked Mark this as well. Do
you have any kind of your guys for this draft that,
when diving into the tape taking a look at these that, like,
in your mind, should be ranked far higher than is
the consensus. Sore, any guys that popped your mind with
that question.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
We call him helmet sticker guys. Helmet some helmetsticker guys.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I mean, I'm obviously I'm biased on this one, so
I don't know if it counts, but I'm a big
Danny Stutsman guy. I love Danny Stutsman. I think it's
insane that, like you can go obviously it's mock draft simulators,
but that you can just get this guy in like
the one twenties, the one forties and any mock draft simulator,
and that's insane. He's a better player than that. He's
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been the heart and soul of a very good OU
defense and not just that, like the unit's good, but
like he pops like you if you had no idea
what you were looking at and you just turned it on,
you would be like within a couple quarters. Like that
guy is really good, and you know he's got good athlesticism.
I don't know that he's you know, necessarily a great
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fit for the Eagles, but I would love it anyways
because I think he's just a really good player. I
also am intrigued by, and I know Mark hate's this guy.
I am very intrigued by Charles Grant, offensive tackle out
of William and Mary. I was watching another guy that
we do draft stuff with, Dives.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Miss cruck Pot on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I was watching offensive line stuff and getting my rankings
put together for off our offensive Line show last week,
and I messaged him and I was like, I found
the offensive lineman I want the Eagles to draft, and
like immediately he responds and he was just like, it's
Charles Grant. And I was like, yep, I just like
the potential with him. And I mean, he's an older prospect,
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but he's got tremendously long arms, and he's a good mover,
and I think he's a developed like he's your enroll
in Stotland University type guy. So I really am intrigued
by Charles Grant. And I know it's a long shot
that you know, an older prospect out of William and
Mary that's not technically refined hits, but if he does hit,
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I think he's going to be so good.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
See I'm trying to think who else.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm a big fan of Dylan Sampson as well, running
back out of Tennessee. I'm very intrigued by what he offers.
And there's some concerns with Sampson in terms of like
size and workload and what he could sustain at the
NFL level. But two big boxes he checks for me
is he's got explosiveness and he's a good pass protector.
And if you have those two things, you can get
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on the field as a running back. And so you know,
he was asked to handle a lot of protection duties
the way Tennessee runs their offense, spreading everything out. Anytime
you check into a six man protection like as a
running back in that offense, you are individually responsible for somebody.
And so he's got a lot of pass pro reps
out there, and I think he can handle that well.
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And usually that's not something you can say about a
lot of running backs, especially one of his size, Like
that's kind of crazy. So, uh, he's another one that
I'm very intrigued by, would love to see, you know,
in Midnight Green where he's not going to get a
lot of reps behind Saquon Barkley, but when he does,
you know, he's not gonna be a Kenny Gainwell that
comes in and it's like, you know, we can expect
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four or five yards on this play. It's like, hey,
he might just hit a home run here, and you
just never know.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
And another kind of kind of on the other side
of the coin, who is the guy that you're hearing
get floated as a top ten, top fifteen, top twenty
pick whatever you want to say, and you're you just
don't see it.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I So I was so disappointed when I started watching
the edge rusher class, like I was told, like I
was led to believe. And I don't watch a ton
of college I casually watch college football. I don't really
start doing draft scouting scouting stuff until NFL season's over,
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and I expected this. All I heard was this edge
class is so deep, it's so good. And as I
kept watching these guys, I was like, I don't who
am I supposed to give first round grades to an
edge rusher?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And I gave a few of them, Abdual Carter, James Fierce, Junior,
Mike Green.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
But I just see a lot of infatuation with like
the edge class, and I think there's some good players,
but I didn't see it being like overwhelmingly good. I'm
a little I'm concerned about Will Campbell a little bit,
like what position he's going to play at the next level,
And you know, he just gets into that thing for
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me that like, I think he's a very good offensive lineman,
but I'm not sure he sticks at tackle, and that
it's the Peter Scronsky of it all a couple of
years ago where that makes me nervous to be the
team that drafts a guy that might have to go
to guard in the top ten. But I mean, the
guy that's gonna go way too high is Shear Sanders.
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I'm and quarterbacks get routinely overinflated, overdrafted because it is
the most important position in pro sports. But I gave
Sugar Sanders the second round grade. I obviously don't think
he's going to go there. I would not want to
be the team the GM, the head coach tying my
job to spending a top five pick on Sugar Sanders,
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and I desperately hope he's there at number three overall
for the Giants to swoop in and take because I
just don't think that's a good use of resources in
this draft.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
On the same kind of side there with cam Ward
going one, where like for me, I get it, you're
a team that doesn't have a quarterback in Tennessee. You're
kind of out in the wasteland and needing something to
pick your fan base up, you're moving into a new stadium.
I think that there's a chance we look back on
this and laugh at the fact that cam Ward has
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taken over a couple of these guys in the top
five for so picks and a couple of the men up,
you know, being all pros, whether it's Abdul Carter or
te McMillan and Travis Hunter or rash and Gentz, James Pierce,
Will Johnson, whoever you want to say, what is your
kind of take on the Titans going ahead and taking
that chance at number one overall?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, I know there was like the reports early on,
and who knows how true they were about like them
getting offered, Like I think it was like a first
this year and next year, second this year and next year,
and like a third this year something like that. Whatever
that package was from the Jets, they were absolutely insane
if they turned that down. In my opinion, I don't
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know that that was ever a legitimate offer on the table,
but if it was, they should all be fired, you know.
That said, I could see it being hard to get
a lot of value for one overall this year, Like
you're I don't think you would get the trade down
package that you could have gotten in years past. And
so if we're in a world where you need a
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quarterback and you're not getting trade down offers that are
worth it, and you, I mean you don't have you
can't do the Will Levice thing again. You could do
worse than cam Ward, for sure, Like I see the
ceiling with cam Ward, Like I could see how cam Ward,
you know, becomes a top ten quarterback. That he's got
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some playmaking ability, that he's got some arm talent, and
you know, his pressure to sack ratio has really improved
over the last couple of seasons. And you know, if
you can rain in some of the aggressiveness, which is
often easier to do than trying to get a checkdown
quarterback to be more aggressive, and if you can get
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him to get to his checkdowns, and if you can
get him to take care of the football, and a
lot of that goes hand in hand, like stop being
so aggressive, stop big play hunting, hits your checkdowns, let's
play on time. Like I generally think it's easier to
get an athletic quarterback there than it is to you know,
take a pocket guy that is just get into the
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checkdowns so passive to tell him to extend plays and
to push the ball downfield.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So I see it.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I don't think it's laughable at all to take cam
Ward number one overall. I've got like a late first
round grade on him, and you get into the positional
value thing again, So I can see it with cam Ward.
It's not the guy that I would want. He cam
Ward would have been my QB four last year. I
would have had him ahead, a little bit ahead of McCarthy,
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behind Jaydeen Daniels, which we see how Jade Daniels turned out.
It's not last year, and I think he's the best
quarterback prospect in this draft. For these guys. Next draft
is not guaranteed. You might you might still be bad
next year and get fired. You might not get fired,
but you might be picking seven overall, and you know,
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is it worth would you rather have cam Ward in
this draft? Or would you rather trade three first round
picks to go up and next year to get whatever
quarterback it is? And we're famous for that next year's
quarterback class, it's gonna be awesome. And you get there
and it's like last year though, where nobody said that
last year. Nobody said that, so I get the cam
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mord of it all. I would not love being the
team that takes him one overall, but I definitely see
the pathway where this guy becomes a top ten quarterback
and turns a franchise around. And I could see it
happening really quickly, because, like Mark and I talk about
all the time, these mobile quarterbacks, they do bring a
certain floor just for their athleticism and their ability to
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extend plays. Even if you know they're still learning how
to work in the NFL, they can always run.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, I think my thing with him is I don't
think he's like a Jaden Daniels level athlete or like
runner like. I think he's going to be more of
a I guess i'd say like a camp of Williams
runner like, where it's more like, you know, a couple
hundred yards a year, but maybe more so like manipulating
the pocket more than anything else, hopefully. But yeah, I'm
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a little lower on ward just in terms of I
have him as like a high second round grade. You
have a late first, so it's not that different. And
obviously positional value determines everything. But I guess I'll ask
you a question Sean asked me and I talked about
the cornerback position. He asked, what class have you come
away with either thinking of the deepest or the best class?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Which class so far?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I think we haven't covered receiver corner safety over on
armchair scouts.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But besides that, which is your favorite class so far? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I'm still stacking my rankings all across defensive back, but
it's going to be cornerback. Yeah, cornerback is going to
be If you want a cornerback, it's a good draft
to need one. Which is interesting for the Eagles too,
because Darius Lay Isaiah Rodgers are gone. Do they spend
the first round pick on a cornerback? You know, you
get the stat that Howie hasn't spent a first round
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pick on a cornerback since I don't remember when it was,
and they went one two at cornerback last year. Could
he really follow it up with a cornerback in the
first round this year? I certainly think it's possible if
the board stacks out that way, and I think there's
a lot of guys that I will end up assigning
first round grades to out.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Of this class.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And you know, I went in thinking it was gonna
be edge rusher, like I said, was disappointed there, but cornerback.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I think there's a lot of depth.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
And then we have I'll get you out of here
on this last question. We have a wide receiver podcast
episode coming up yet. I don't know how deep you
are in your research yet, but just I guess in
terms of takeaways, well, it's your kind of biggest takeaway
so far going through the wide receiver position.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
There's a lot of wide receivers in this draft that
I'm like, these are slot players.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, and it's a.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Good draft if you want a and there's slot receivers
coming a couple of different side it a couple different
sizes works, but a couple of different flavors.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You get like the super shifty like can run a
four three forty sort of vertical thread out of the slot.
You've got the smooth route runner yat guys, and you've
got like the power slots, you know, and all three
of those types are in this class. It's a little
rougher if you want to get an outside receiver, especially
if you want to get like an X receiver, because
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some of those speed slot guys they could be your
Z receiver types as well. If you want an X
receiver in this class, it might be slim Pickens. And
I wonder, like, I think there's a lot of good
players in this class. I wonder what value we're going
to see teams start to assign to these slot receivers
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because as teams major in eleven personnel, now, like how
valuable is a slot receiver only comparative to like an
X guy on the outside, Because a lot of these
guys I just see as great slot fits, which you
could argue is also a need for the Eagles, right,
I don't know how big of a need considering the
offense is always going to run through Saquon aj, DeVante
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Smith and tight end yet to be named. But that's
one of the things that really stood out to me
is just there are a ton of slot receivers and
there's not a lot of great options, at least early
on on the outside.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, it's definitely a small class. It reminds me of that.
I think it was the Cadarius Tony year where everybody
felt like everybody felt like a small receiver that year,
and that's.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
How Cadarius Tony ends up in the first round. Yeah,
exactly there you go.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
But you can listen to Shane Half, Dives and I
every single week and Ryan Reese over on Armchair Scouts
on the Eagles Pin Pull Network. Shane and I'll be
picking up chalk talk, I'm sure once once the draft's done,
to be doing our draft recaps where we go division
by division, conference by conference, and those are some of
my favorite episodes of the year. We're getting close to
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your Shane. Three weeks away. We'll have our our live
watch along. We'll have more information on that as we go.
Where we're getting to the point.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
We got to put together this.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Draft guide and see where where our overall rankings stack up.
See who our helmet sticker guys are officially for Shane, Dives,
Ryan and I and I'm excited to break down these
next couple of weeks. Hopefully we get Dives and Ryan
on to plug the pod as well. But Shane, thanks
so much for coming on man, Thanks for having me
guys anytime. We always love having Shane. You can follow
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him on Twitter at Shane Half n FL.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Great stuff for my guy as always.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
And Sean Bernard, I think it's about that time to
wrap up the show. An A ton of people watched
along today, great great show. Took a ride around the
sports carousel, nice little NFL Draft Hour, fun stuff, anything,
anything you want to get off your chest before we
get out of here.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yeah, no, I think we nailed it on. Let's buckle
up for some good hoops tonight, soak in the last
of the final four as we do not get it
back here. And let's hope this Phillies team keeps looking
like a wagon. So some good sports to tune into
the rest of the day.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, I cannot wait a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
To go on.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Oh and also Villanova competing for the crown on these
very air waves a little bit, so.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
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Speaker 3 (27:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
Let's bring Shane Halfen. We have our guest who just
popped on. It's some beautiful Kelly Green there, my co
host over on schalked off. My coast over on the
Armchair Scouts, the founder of the Eagles Pin Full Network,
my guy Shane Half.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You can follow on Twitter at Shane Half NFL.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Shane.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
How are we doing on this fine Saturday. I'm doing good.
How are you guys doing? We're doing good.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
That's my coast over there, Sean Bernard. I think you've
been on the show with Sean before. Yes, But Sean,
I'll let Sean kind of ask you the question that
he just asked me. Before I give my full answer,
I'll kick you off on it.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah. Sure, So, Shane, thanks for popping on.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Always good to chat with you and me and Mark
kind of I'm getting my deep dive into the draft
right now. Asking my questions. He's kind of filling me up,
catching me up to speed as I started playing the
process here. So the question that I just laid out
for Mark was looking at this from an Eagles perspective. Obviously,
the last pick of the first round, which tends to
happen when you want a super Bowl. There who are
some guys that we should have our eyes on from
an Eagles draft perspective.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, you know, we can put our eye on guys.
And I just feel like, what's inevitably gonna happen is
we're gonna watch the draft for three and a half
hours on Thursday night and pick thirty two is gonna
come up, and we're gonna think, yeah, like, there's this
guy on the board. We really like, let's make the pick.
I can go to bed happy. I'm gonna be really
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tired at work tomorrow, and then the Eagles are gonna
trade out just like they did in twenty eighteen, and
we're just gonna have to wait another twenty four hours
for the draft. But all that, all that aside, because
I think that's very much on the table.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You know, I'm very.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Big on approaching the draft without like obvious needs that
you must fill, and I think the Eagles do a
really good job of that. I mean, you look at
like deficiencies in the edgresher rotation. They go sign guys
like Josh Ucha and Aziz Ojulari, and you look at
maybe concerns about your cornerback room, and they go and
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they sign Adria Jackson, and none of these are big
deals that preclude them from making selections there in the
first round. But it doesn't make you force around or
square peg into a round hole, which I guess I
guess a round peg would go into a square hole,
but emphasizing was right. Anyways, you don't have to do that,
And so I do like that a few guys that
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I really like at the back end of the first round.
I mean, if Derek Harmon or Walter Nolan are there,
I think they make a lot of sense for the
Eagles because you have, you know, in Jalen Carter, you
have a guy that's a force multiplier on the middle,
and so you know, if you go and draft a
Derek Harmon or Walter Nolan, you know they're good players
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on their own, but you can sort of multiply their
value in the fact that they're consistently going to get
easier matchups because they line up across from Jalen Carter.
And so I do think like those two guys make
a lot of sense if either one of them is
on the board, if you want to go to like
Ed Rusher. I know there's been things about like James
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Pierce and maybe some concerns, and I'm not going to
really wait into that. I'll just say if he checks out,
if those things for him check out some real quick.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Not to cull you off.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Something Shane and I always like to say is we're
not doctors, we're not investigators, Like we're just talking ball
like we were. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
That's that's for big down to figure out.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, which is wonderful because it allows me to sit
here and say, hey, James Pierce is a great player,
but I'm not putting my job on the line if
you draft him and it doesn't work out for off
field things. But I mean, if it checks out, like
he would be a slam dunk pick. Also, like if
that all checks out, he probably isn't there at thirty two.
But you never know what teams are willing to take
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take on risk wise, So you know, trenches I think
are very much in play for the Eagles, especially on
the defensive side. On the offensive side, I don't necessarily
love an offensive lineman in the first round, because I
don't think drafting an interior player in the first round
is good value. And I just never liked the idea of, like,
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let's draft a right tackle of the future and we'll
play him at right guard for now, because inevitably that
road leads one of two places, and that's that he's
really good at right guard. And so two years down
the roads you say, well, he's been really good at
right guard, let's not move him out to tackle, and
then you essentially effectively drafted a right guard in the
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first round. And the Eagles didn't do it in the
first round, but it's the same logic they used with
Landon Dickerson. Let's draft him to be a center replacement
for Jason Kelcey. He'll play left guard for now. What
do you know, he's great at it. Let's actually draft
a center to replace Jason Kelcey. And so you see
that logic. The other road is, man, this guy kind
of stinks at right guard, and then you ask yourself, well,
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is you're going to be better going to tackle, which
is a harder position to play. So I'm kind of
out on the idea of like drafting a tackle to
play guard in the first round, and generally don't think
a guard is great value in the first round. But
one offensive guy that I would really like in the
first round, and I don't know that the Eagles would
do it, but Colston Loveland is a guy that I
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would really like if he's there. And again I don't
know that he's going to get there, but given all
signs point to the Eagles moving on from Dallas Goddard,
and I do think that leaves a huge hole in
your tight end room because I'm not a big Grant
Calcatara guy. Colston Loveland, And again, you can get into
positional value like a tight end in the first round
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and an offense that's run heavy with AJ Brown and
DeVante Smith. But at the end of the day, I
think it's you look at it as locking in a
guy that I think is going to be very good
for five years, and you just are naturally transitioning from
Dallas s Gooddart who was very good to another tight end.
And the Eagles love to get into twelve personnel, and
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I think you can give him some inline blocking responsibilities there,
so he's an offensive pick I would like. I kind
of feel like the Eagles will end up, as they
often do in the trenches on the defensive side.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Of the ball. Though, Yeah, I'm actually so. I really
like Loveland. I have Loveland twelve overall. I was surprised
to hear you love.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Him as an Eagles fit, though, because I'm definitely kind
of scared of his blocking ability. I guess in our
offense and we do ask tight ends to block so often.
I have another question I want to get to about
that pick thirty two, But do you think Loveland would
be able to hang at kind of what the Eagles
asked the tight end to do from blocking perspective, and
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do you think he's a guy that the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Are going to look at because of that?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I think I think immediately, like if you plugged him in,
he is a step down from Goddard as a blocker,
and I think he's a step up as a receiver.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
However, I do think he's a little better blocker than
he's given credit for being.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Also, he's just big and he's willing as a blocker,
and I think you can do a lot with an
athletic guy who is.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Big, framed and willing as a blocker.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
You know, there's technical things that you can that he
needs to clean up, and he blocks better out of
the slot, and like you're not gonna ask him to
one on one block defensive ends a lot of times
and things like that. But I do think he projects
favorably and like his development is a run blocker if
that's what a team wants him to focus on. So
I think there's some better reps out there then people
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typically go to with him. And I also think he
could develop a lot more consistency there with good coaching.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
A lot of rumors with Colson Lovelin that the Chargers
may even trade up to get him, that Harball is
like in love with him from his Michigan days, and
a lot of Michigan guys in the draft, so i'd
be it'd be interesting if Harball does end up with
one of them at twenty two or are moving up
for them.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
But yeah, if Harball likes him, you know he can
run block because it doesn't want to throw the ball anyways.
So exactly, you're exactly right, that's that's a good that's
a good feather in the cap for the Colston Loveland
can block people.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
If Harball wants to trade up for him.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, And I'm honestly like, I'm trying to get you
to talk me into putting Loveland high on my Eagles
big board.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Because I hadn't twelve. Overall, I love the guy. I
I didn't think of him as an Eagles potential guy.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
But I'm you're you're talking me, and let me ask
you about another position of need. Obviously you mentioned that
Goddard probably the way Sirianni answered that question.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Maybe let's get trade.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, that was the least leverage inspiring answer I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But whatever you see if you plant a flower.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, that was insane.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
He could not have sounded.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Like more traded already or cut already if you tried.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
But whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I obviously a position of need it would be would
be safety. After trading Chauncey Gardner Johnson. I have three
safeties graded as first round prospects. They're all back end
of the first round prospects, but we're picking the back end.
I think there's probably only one that's being kind of
consensus created in the first round, and that's Malachi Starks.
There's another two with Xavier Watson, Nick Manwory, who probably
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are more second round guys. Maybe they sneak into the
back end of the first but are any of them
possibilities at thirty two good fits for the Eagles? Maybe
Day two targets. Where are you feeling about the safety
position for this draft?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, so safety is actually the last position that I
have to watch, so I have I am not very
far down the safety at rabbit hole yet. I mean,
it seems like Stark's is just not even going to
be in range for the Eagles. Yeah, I get the
vibe he's going to go early. Also, I mean, maybe
things change if a guy that's just supposed to go
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really early is all of a sudden available at thirty two,
although something would have had to have happened that we
don't know about. But he doesn't really fit like the
athletic profile of what the Eagles tend to go after either.
So I just kind of think he's a not going
to be in range for the Eagles, and b if
he does. If he was, he wouldn't really at their profile.
Emon Warry is interesting because he blew up the combine
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and like, and I haven't watched him a lot, so
but as you as you watch him some he doesn't
it doesn't feel like he's as rangy ke film as
his athletic testing. I mean, he gets to the ten
point zero relative athletics score and that automatically makes your
eyes pop. But obviously it's a place the Eagles need
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to look at because you think about last season and
when there were safety injuries, and the Eagles didn't have
a lot of those, but there were times Vonte Maddox
was kind of the first guy off of the bench,
and the Eagles let Avonte Maddox walk for almost a
minimum contract to the Lions, and so you get into
this game of like, well, does that mean they trust
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Sidney Brown if they weren't willing to pay Avonte Maddox
one and a half million dollars. Well, if they did
trust Sidney Brown, why wasn't he the backup safety last year?
And so you get into all kinds of things there,
and it's definitely, in my opinion, the gest hole on
the roster, because you know, I think Read Blanken hips
a fine safety, but you need two of them, and
Chauncey Gardner Johnson's gone, and so I don't know what
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they're gonna do there. You know, isn't going to be
Sidney Brown. Do they feel comfortable walking into a season
with Sidney Brown being their guy? I don't think so.
I think that they are probably going to add a safety,
and if it's not through the draft, maybe it's post
draft in a Justin Simmons or a Julian Blackman, or
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you know, one of those safeties that's still out there
that can just get you a base level of competency.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
You know, are they going to move Cooper to Gene?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's safety, which I would absolutely hate, by the way,
So safety is a big question mark, and unfortunately it's
one of the few positions I don't have very many
definitive opinions on yet either.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Let's uh, I'm gonna throw it to I got a
little co hosception going on here, my my podcast co
host and my radio cost I'll throw it to Sean
to add to.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Ask ask Shane a draft question here.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Yeah, Shane, So I asked Mark this as well. Do
you have any kind of your guys for this draft that,
when diving into the tape taking a look at these that, like,
in your mind, should be ranked far higher than is
the consensus. Sore, any guys that popped your mind with
that question.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
We call him helmet sticker guys. Helmet some helmetsticker guys.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I mean, I'm obviously I'm biased on this one, so
I don't know if it counts, but I'm a big
Danny Stutsman guy. I love Danny Stutsman. I think it's
insane that, like you can go obviously it's mock draft simulators,
but that you can just get this guy in like
the one twenties, the one forties and any mock draft simulator,
and that's insane. He's a better player than that. He's
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been the heart and soul of a very good OU
defense and not just that, like the unit's good, but
like he pops like you if you had no idea
what you were looking at and you just turned it on,
you would be like within a couple quarters. Like that
guy is really good, and you know he's got good athlesticism.
I don't know that he's you know, necessarily a great
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fit for the Eagles, but I would love it anyways
because I think he's just a really good player. I
also am intrigued by, and I know Mark hate's this guy.
I am very intrigued by Charles Grant, offensive tackle out
of William and Mary. I was watching another guy that
we do draft stuff with, Dives.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Miss cruck Pot on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I was watching offensive line stuff and getting my rankings
put together for off our offensive Line show last week,
and I messaged him and I was like, I found
the offensive lineman I want the Eagles to draft, and
like immediately he responds and he was just like, it's
Charles Grant. And I was like, yep, I just like
the potential with him. And I mean, he's an older prospect,
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but he's got tremendously long arms, and he's a good mover,
and I think he's a developed like he's your enroll
in Stotland University type guy. So I really am intrigued
by Charles Grant. And I know it's a long shot
that you know, an older prospect out of William and
Mary that's not technically refined hits, but if he does hit,
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I think he's going to be so good.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
See I'm trying to think who else.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm a big fan of Dylan Sampson as well, running
back out of Tennessee. I'm very intrigued by what he offers.
And there's some concerns with Sampson in terms of like
size and workload and what he could sustain at the
NFL level. But two big boxes he checks for me
is he's got explosiveness and he's a good pass protector.
And if you have those two things, you can get
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on the field as a running back. And so you know,
he was asked to handle a lot of protection duties
the way Tennessee runs their offense, spreading everything out. Anytime
you check into a six man protection like as a
running back in that offense, you are individually responsible for somebody.
And so he's got a lot of pass pro reps
out there, and I think he can handle that well.
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And usually that's not something you can say about a
lot of running backs, especially one of his size, Like
that's kind of crazy. So, uh, he's another one that
I'm very intrigued by, would love to see, you know,
in Midnight Green where he's not going to get a
lot of reps behind Saquon Barkley, but when he does,
you know, he's not gonna be a Kenny Gainwell that
comes in and it's like, you know, we can expect
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four or five yards on this play. It's like, hey,
he might just hit a home run here, and you
just never know.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
And another kind of kind of on the other side
of the coin, who is the guy that you're hearing
get floated as a top ten, top fifteen, top twenty
pick whatever you want to say, and you're you just
don't see it.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Man.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I So I was so disappointed when I started watching
the edge rusher class, like I was told, like I
was led to believe. And I don't watch a ton
of college I casually watch college football. I don't really
start doing draft scouting scouting stuff until NFL season's over,
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and I expected this. All I heard was this edge
class is so deep, it's so good. And as I
kept watching these guys, I was like, I don't who
am I supposed to give first round grades to an
edge rusher?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
And I gave a few of them, Abdual Carter, James Fierce, Junior,
Mike Green.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
But I just see a lot of infatuation with like
the edge class, and I think there's some good players,
but I didn't see it being like overwhelmingly good. I'm
a little I'm concerned about Will Campbell a little bit,
like what position he's going to play at the next level,
And you know, he just gets into that thing for
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me that like, I think he's a very good offensive lineman,
but I'm not sure he sticks at tackle, and that
it's the Peter Scronsky of it all a couple of
years ago where that makes me nervous to be the
team that drafts a guy that might have to go
to guard in the top ten. But I mean, the
guy that's gonna go way too high is Shear Sanders.
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I'm and quarterbacks get routinely overinflated, overdrafted because it is
the most important position in pro sports. But I gave
Sugar Sanders the second round grade. I obviously don't think
he's going to go there. I would not want to
be the team the GM, the head coach tying my
job to spending a top five pick on Sugar Sanders,
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and I desperately hope he's there at number three overall
for the Giants to swoop in and take because I
just don't think that's a good use of resources in
this draft.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
On the same kind of side there with cam Ward
going one, where like for me, I get it, you're
a team that doesn't have a quarterback in Tennessee. You're
kind of out in the wasteland and needing something to
pick your fan base up, you're moving into a new stadium.
I think that there's a chance we look back on
this and laugh at the fact that cam Ward has
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taken over a couple of these guys in the top
five for so picks and a couple of the men up,
you know, being all pros, whether it's Abdul Carter or
te McMillan and Travis Hunter or rash and Gentz, James Pierce,
Will Johnson, whoever you want to say, what is your
kind of take on the Titans going ahead and taking
that chance at number one overall?
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, I know there was like the reports early on,
and who knows how true they were about like them
getting offered, Like I think it was like a first
this year and next year, second this year and next year,
and like a third this year something like that. Whatever
that package was from the Jets, they were absolutely insane
if they turned that down. In my opinion, I don't
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know that that was ever a legitimate offer on the table,
but if it was, they should all be fired, you know.
That said, I could see it being hard to get
a lot of value for one overall this year, Like
you're I don't think you would get the trade down
package that you could have gotten in years past. And
so if we're in a world where you need a
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quarterback and you're not getting trade down offers that are
worth it, and you, I mean you don't have you
can't do the Will Levice thing again. You could do
worse than cam Ward, for sure, Like I see the
ceiling with cam Ward, Like I could see how cam Ward,
you know, becomes a top ten quarterback. That he's got
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some playmaking ability, that he's got some arm talent, and
you know, his pressure to sack ratio has really improved
over the last couple of seasons. And you know, if
you can rain in some of the aggressiveness, which is
often easier to do than trying to get a checkdown
quarterback to be more aggressive, and if you can get
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him to get to his checkdowns, and if you can
get him to take care of the football, and a
lot of that goes hand in hand, like stop being
so aggressive, stop big play hunting, hits your checkdowns, let's
play on time. Like I generally think it's easier to
get an athletic quarterback there than it is to you know,
take a pocket guy that is just get into the
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checkdowns so passive to tell him to extend plays and
to push the ball downfield.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
So I see it.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I don't think it's laughable at all to take cam
Ward number one overall. I've got like a late first
round grade on him, and you get into the positional
value thing again, So I can see it with cam Ward.
It's not the guy that I would want. He cam
Ward would have been my QB four last year. I
would have had him ahead, a little bit ahead of McCarthy,
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behind Jaydeen Daniels, which we see how Jade Daniels turned out.
It's not last year, and I think he's the best
quarterback prospect in this draft. For these guys. Next draft
is not guaranteed. You might you might still be bad
next year and get fired. You might not get fired,
but you might be picking seven overall, and you know,
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is it worth would you rather have cam Ward in
this draft? Or would you rather trade three first round
picks to go up and next year to get whatever
quarterback it is? And we're famous for that next year's
quarterback class, it's gonna be awesome. And you get there
and it's like last year though, where nobody said that
last year. Nobody said that, so I get the cam
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mord of it all. I would not love being the
team that takes him one overall, but I definitely see
the pathway where this guy becomes a top ten quarterback
and turns a franchise around. And I could see it
happening really quickly, because, like Mark and I talk about
all the time, these mobile quarterbacks, they do bring a
certain floor just for their athleticism and their ability to
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extend plays. Even if you know they're still learning how
to work in the NFL, they can always run.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Yeah, I think my thing with him is I don't
think he's like a Jaden Daniels level athlete or like
runner like. I think he's going to be more of
a I guess i'd say like a camp of Williams
runner like, where it's more like, you know, a couple
hundred yards a year, but maybe more so like manipulating
the pocket more than anything else, hopefully. But yeah, I'm
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a little lower on ward just in terms of I
have him as like a high second round grade. You
have a late first, so it's not that different. And
obviously positional value determines everything. But I guess I'll ask
you a question Sean asked me and I talked about
the cornerback position. He asked, what class have you come
away with either thinking of the deepest or the best class?
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Which class so far?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I think we haven't covered receiver corner safety over on
armchair scouts.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
But besides that, which is your favorite class so far? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I'm still stacking my rankings all across defensive back, but
it's going to be cornerback. Yeah, cornerback is going to
be If you want a cornerback, it's a good draft
to need one. Which is interesting for the Eagles too,
because Darius Lay Isaiah Rodgers are gone. Do they spend
the first round pick on a cornerback? You know, you
get the stat that Howie hasn't spent a first round
(22:51):
pick on a cornerback since I don't remember when it was,
and they went one two at cornerback last year. Could
he really follow it up with a cornerback in the
first round this year? I certainly think it's possible if
the board stacks out that way, and I think there's
a lot of guys that I will end up assigning
first round grades to out.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Of this class.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And you know, I went in thinking it was gonna
be edge rusher, like I said, was disappointed there, but cornerback.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I think there's a lot of depth.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
And then we have I'll get you out of here
on this last question. We have a wide receiver podcast
episode coming up yet. I don't know how deep you
are in your research yet, but just I guess in
terms of takeaways, well, it's your kind of biggest takeaway
so far going through the wide receiver position.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
There's a lot of wide receivers in this draft that
I'm like, these are slot players.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, and it's a.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Good draft if you want a and there's slot receivers
coming a couple of different side it a couple different
sizes works, but a couple of different flavors.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
You get like the super shifty like can run a
four three forty sort of vertical thread out of the slot.
You've got the smooth route runner yat guys, and you've
got like the power slots, you know, and all three
of those types are in this class. It's a little
rougher if you want to get an outside receiver, especially
if you want to get like an X receiver, because
(24:13):
some of those speed slot guys they could be your
Z receiver types as well. If you want an X
receiver in this class, it might be slim Pickens. And
I wonder, like, I think there's a lot of good
players in this class. I wonder what value we're going
to see teams start to assign to these slot receivers
(24:34):
because as teams major in eleven personnel, now, like how
valuable is a slot receiver only comparative to like an
X guy on the outside, Because a lot of these
guys I just see as great slot fits, which you
could argue is also a need for the Eagles, right,
I don't know how big of a need considering the
offense is always going to run through Saquon aj, DeVante
(24:54):
Smith and tight end yet to be named. But that's
one of the things that really stood out to me
is just there are a ton of slot receivers and
there's not a lot of great options, at least early
on on the outside.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, it's definitely a small class. It reminds me of that.
I think it was the Cadarius Tony year where everybody
felt like everybody felt like a small receiver that year,
and that's.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
How Cadarius Tony ends up in the first round. Yeah,
exactly there you go.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
But you can listen to Shane Half, Dives and I
every single week and Ryan Reese over on Armchair Scouts
on the Eagles Pin Pull Network. Shane and I'll be
picking up chalk talk, I'm sure once once the draft's done,
to be doing our draft recaps where we go division
by division, conference by conference, and those are some of
my favorite episodes of the year. We're getting close to
(25:45):
your Shane. Three weeks away. We'll have our our live
watch along. We'll have more information on that as we go.
Where we're getting to the point.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
We got to put together this.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Draft guide and see where where our overall rankings stack up.
See who our helmet sticker guys are officially for Shane, Dives,
Ryan and I and I'm excited to break down these
next couple of weeks. Hopefully we get Dives and Ryan
on to plug the pod as well. But Shane, thanks
so much for coming on man, Thanks for having me
guys anytime. We always love having Shane. You can follow
(26:17):
him on Twitter at Shane Half n FL.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Great stuff for my guy as always.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
And Sean Bernard, I think it's about that time to
wrap up the show. An A ton of people watched
along today, great great show. Took a ride around the
sports carousel, nice little NFL Draft Hour, fun stuff, anything,
anything you want to get off your chest before we
get out of here.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yeah, no, I think we nailed it on. Let's buckle
up for some good hoops tonight, soak in the last
of the final four as we do not get it
back here. And let's hope this Phillies team keeps looking
like a wagon. So some good sports to tune into
the rest of the day.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Yeah, I cannot wait a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
To go on.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Oh and also Villanova competing for the crown on these
very air waves a little bit, so.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Maygees. I should have taken that tongue noise away.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
But yeah, by the way, I forgot to give these out.
I'm not gonna dive into them. Over nine and a
half Yankees Pirates Blue Jay's money line one unit plays
small plays, but those go along with Auburn money line
in Houston plus five and a half. That's gonna do
it tough cover country, Let's ride
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