July 30, 2024 • 51 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Go and get your crane ticket.
Go to your crane and get aticket.
Sounds like a bad time.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What are we talking about today?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Just bullshit.
Yeah, we're going to talk to.
We're going to promote the PTAOshow.
We're going to talk somebullshit.
Okay.
I'm good with bullshit.
Don't sell it as garbage Likeit's good bullshit.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's not bullshit, it'll be hot garbage it's.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We're two towers talking about what's going on in
the industry.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
uh yes, important, real, real hot garbage.
Real hot bullshit.
Yeah, it's real, I'll callgarbage don't call garbage one
man's trash is another man'streasure.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You just never know, that's why I look so good on
this show.
Show.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hey everyone, I'm Brad from Calgary.
This is Sean from CambridgeOntario.
I'm Terry from Cornwall Ontario.
Hey, this is Larry from Pit.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Metals British Columbia and you're listening to
the Towing Life Podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Welcome to the Towing Life Podcast, where the ditches
are deep, the trucks are loaded, but the drivers are not I'm
your host, towman g, and asusual, I'm joined by my co-host,
friend and former co-workerwith man with very strong
opinions, mr Plain Guy.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
What is going on?
G.
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh, you know, just another day in the life on the
towing life podcast absolutelywhat a day it is.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's a beautiful day.
It's 30 degrees outside for ouramerican listeners that's
somewhere in the I don't know.
Uh, it's warm and nice.
Um, my igloo is fully melted.
Um, the moose has been put intothe barn and uh, we're here
recording another episode,episode 146, of the towing life
podcast.
Getting close to that.
(01:49):
150, that's a.
It's a decent milestone in itsown right, I guess.
What would it be?
156 would be about three years,um, uh, yeah three years.
Well, three years is in august.
Three years.
We are coming up on ourthree-year anniversary.
Uh, I think it's time.
We have not talked about thisprior to the show.
As most of the stuff happens,it's probably time to start
(02:10):
looking at doing another live ordoing something along those
lines.
It tends to be our anniversarytradition.
Um, pretty sure we're making upwords at the same time, yeah,
but yes, episode 146 of the tonelife podcast.
We got some great stuff to goover today.
Uh, shoot the shit of the.
Uh, you know two towers thathave been at it long enough,
(02:30):
just having a good time andtalking about some fun.
Before we get into that, it isa good time to mention if you
want to reach out, have yourvoice heard on the show.
There's multiple ways that youcan do it.
You can visit us atwwwtowinglifeca, you can email
us at thetowinglife at gmailcom,or you can visit us over on
(02:52):
Facebook by searching the TowingLife podcast.
If you're watching over on theYouTube side, if you're one of
the lucky few that can sit downand have enough time to
physically watch us on a screen,there is the option to like and
subscribe and leave a commentdown below.
It's always appreciated, andyou guys really do help push our
content in the direction you sochoose, unless we don't like it
(03:15):
, and then we'll move itwhichever way we decide.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
If you're watching on YouTube, your phone better not
be in the gauge cluster of yourtruck while you're going down
the road.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yes, 100%.
We do notone um nor encouragethat kind of activity.
So, uh, that being said, it'sit's kind of exciting g?
Um.
We've announced recently overon our social media um, I don't
think we ever actually did it onthe show, but we will be.
It is confirmed.
We will be in attendance onceagain for the 2024 PTAO Tow Show
(03:48):
, which is the ProfessionalTowing Association of Ontario's
Tow Show being held.
I have it here September 13thand 14th at Bingman's in
Kitchener.
It's a venue that they've hadto host this tow show for many
years.
It's a great little venue.
There's a lot to show.
For many years it's a it's agreat little venue.
Uh, there's a lot to do there.
Like around there there's theboston pizzas.
(04:09):
Uh, with bowling, there's allkinds for the family.
You can camp right on site.
They've got uh different.
Well, they have like diggergames and stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Like they've got a bunch for the kids yeah, the
only issue is that's outside ofthe actual like camping season,
so I'm not sure if everything atbig men's is open, but they got
mini golf and I remember themini golf was open, the water
park wasn't.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I think, yeah, the water park might be a little
chilly in september anyways yeah.
so if you are in ontario or anyof the surrounding you know area
, especially in the kitchenerarea I know there's a lot of
some folks from Burlington, um,you know or or down Buffalo side
Uh, it's pretty, uh, prettyclose drive.
If you're anywhere in Ontario,do not forget to attend, uh,
(04:54):
ptao's toe show September 13thand 14th.
Um, we will be there.
We are doing this year so lastyear.
Last year was funny.
We brought merch to the show.
We had brought the the shirtsthat the G is wearing right now
to the show, not knowing whatthe consensus was going to be,
(05:15):
what, what volume we needed tobring, you know no idea.
We just brought like 12 or 16shirts, yeah, yeah, and some
hats.
I think there was some hats andwe said whatever sells sells and
whatever doesn't sell, it iswhat it is.
And my God, we had broughtforms just in case we didn't
have a size that somebodyrequested.
And, my God, I spent the nexttwo weeks filling out orders.
What a success it was.
(05:37):
So we thank all those thatattended.
We will be doing it again thisyear.
The difference is this year tomake sure that we have what you
need.
We have launched a pre-order forthe show, right?
Last thing I want to do is isget there and not have the size
you need.
Um, you know some people.
If they don't have it there,you know they're just not going
(05:57):
to get it.
I get it right.
It takes time to mail it out.
So if you are going to be atthe toe show, you can can head
over to our um, our Facebookpage.
You will see, uh, the link weshared for the pre-order.
You can fill it out, get thepre-order done.
We will deliver the shirtsdirectly to the toe show.
Uh, this year we are going with, uh, the same logo that is, on
(06:18):
the front of G shirt the toe inlife podcast and on the sleeve
as well as on the back.
We are going with our porn start-shirts.
They were very popular, um, Igot called out for one in
baltimore for having one on.
I remember that.
Um, so it's uh.
A brief description is is youknow, towing saved me from being
a porn star?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
now I'm just a hooker I'll put a logo up on screen if
you're on the youtube sideabsolutely, we can also go.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You, like I said, you can visit our social media,
find the pre pre-order page andgo there and get it.
You'll see the t-shirt rightthere.
A lot of big sponsors, which isgreat to see for this year's
tow show.
Right, you've got your, yourusual big players Eagle towing.
You know Abrams, you've got.
Tow soft.
You've got.
You know abram I think I saidabram's rescue 51 big hook
(07:07):
towing.
A lot of towing companies haveeven supported to help make this
show as much as of a success aspossible and they've got a lot
of great stuff going on thisyear.
I was going through kind of theseminar, the uh, the itinerary,
I guess, and you know I see evtraining seminar panel
discussion.
They've got their yearly AGM.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
That's for the membership side of it.
Is Canadian going there?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
this year.
Yep, okay, you do not need tobe a member of the PTAO to
attend this show.
So if you're out of province,out of state, whatever it is,
you do not need to be a member.
You can come.
There's a $5 fee to get in.
If you be a member, you cancome.
There's a five dollar um fee toget in, um, if you are a member
.
If you're not a member in theprovince, you probably should
become one um and uh, it's freefor them.
(07:52):
You've got a meet and greet onthe friday night.
We always enjoyed that down atwaterloo brewery or brewery
right.
We've gone in, we have somedrinks, mingle and shake hands
with.
You know a lot of the big bigplayers in the industry and not,
and not just you know a lot ofthe big big players in the
industry and not, and not just.
You know this isn't just where,like, sales reps are trying to
wind dine in.
You know just towers, justtowers, having I don't know how
many late nights we spent out attables having drinks with
(08:14):
people at Waterloo brewery, just, you know, discussing all the
fun time we've had.
So that is on the Friday night.
Saturday they do a memorialprocession parade.
We had filmed a bit of thatlast year.
For the Fallen, the tow showopens.
There's a show and shinecontest, which has always turned
up some great competition.
There are some beautiful trucksthat show up at the Ontario Tow
(08:38):
Show.
There's a seminar on RSLA,which is Leans, repair and
Storage.
Leans Act to help towingcompanies move forward with
collecting payment on vehiclesand how to put liens against
vehicles and how to ensureyou're going to get paid a
silent auction.
Uh, there's a speaker I'm nottoo familiar with it called
unstoppable tracy.
Not sure who that is.
(08:59):
We will look into that.
Uh, there's a women's uhluncheon.
My wife has attended thatbefore, so it's.
It's an event dedicated towomen in the industry.
Right, women supporting womenin the industry.
We know that this is a maledominated industry.
Um, you know, I think we'reseeing big changes and like
(09:19):
shifts to that, like I thinkyou're seeing a lot more women
come into the industry.
So it's a great time to gettogether with them um, discuss
maybe any struggles they've hadand you know how to overcome any
issues they've ran into.
All that good stuff.
There's a weights and balancesession and balances that.
I think that'll be good inOntario recently with the
requirement to enter scales.
A lot of emphasis has been puton how to properly scale your
(09:42):
tow truck and and what yourtruck can legally uh do.
And then later on that nightthere's an award banquet with
bill nuvo, um, I don't know who.
This one is unusuallyentertaining.
Last year they had a magician.
You didn't go to the banquetlast year, no, but last year
(10:02):
they had a magician and I will.
It was like a magician and amentalist and I will admit I
actually partook in part of theum the event.
We were.
We were tasked with chainingthis guy up.
It was me and uh derrick, uhderrick to down and two big lads
(10:23):
and we were like I was tryingto suffocate this guy and we
tied this thing up and he wasquite comical, like he was a
comedian as well.
It was a great time and he puton an amazing show.
The entertainment was awesome,the food was great, the silent
auction was fun.
It was overall a really goodtime.
So, you know, get your ticketsto the banquet and have a good
(10:44):
time.
Like I said, the EV will beinteresting.
Actually, yeah, the EV trainingseminar will be interesting.
Maybe we'll see if we can get alittle bit of you know, insight
into that and see if we can geta little bit of recording from
the show for you guys.
Also, for those of you thataren't in Ontario, aren't able
to make the tow show, aren't inOntario, aren't able to make the
tow show, most of the stars,most of the people from Heavy
(11:09):
Rescue, 401, right, which is apopular show that unfortunately
ended now for the last coupleyears, will be in attendance at
the show.
If you know in advance thatthere is somebody that you want
us to sit down and talk with, ifyou know there is some
equipment that'll be there.
Or or you know, even if it'snot a heavy rescue but something
that you want covered from theshow, don't hesitate and reach
(11:31):
out to us.
We will do our best to based onand I know g did a phenomenal
job of that last year or was theyear before as well.
No, but you went around and youfound stuff that that I
wouldn't really think of, right,you went out and you round, you
found stuff I remember you dida couple years ago you did a
great job with with bryce umtalking about his rotators and
that, that kind of stuff.
(11:52):
So if there is specificequipment you guys are looking
at.
If you want a full rundown,maybe some nrc equipment,
because ontario is big with nrcit's not as popular still in the
states.
It's growing um but it's notquite there should grow faster
really, the equipment isabsolutely um rika is there like
there's.
There's vendors from everywhere.
So if it's something that youknow you have some questions
(12:14):
about, whether it be a specificpiece of equipment, a specific
brand, or you know a questionfor a specific person don't
hesitate, reach out to us.
We'll do our best while we'reat that show give me a to-do
list.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I want to stay busy during this toe show I'll.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
If they don't, I will .
You can go get sandwiches.
Make sure the coolers arestocked oh, that's.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
That's why we're camping there this year, because
last year, as always, someone'sgot to stay sober to get us
back to the hotel, and this timewe're camping on site.
So all we got to do is stumbleour way back across the hotel,
and this time we're camping onsite.
So all we got to do is stumbleour way back across the road and
find our.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
We've done that the first year that we did the tow
show.
Yeah, I don't even think thepodcast didn't exist at the time
.
No, you and I rented bingman'shas these c-can campers yeah
like c-can, with, just like somebunk beds, a lamp, maybe a
fridge I think an ac unit too anac unit I remember we had.
We had like hot dogs and we hadcereal with no milk or no bowls
(13:12):
or something.
There was a weird thing that wehad.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
We looked like two college.
I know you were already playing.
I was like, hey, I want to cometo that.
And you're like, yeah, and Ialready had the cabin, the
container cabin.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
So we looked like two frat boys on a camping trip
with nothing in life figured out.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, and that was some of the best nights.
I think we're out shooting thebreeze until like 1am, getting
kicked out of the parking lot bysecurity, the owner of said
trailer that got pissed onpissed on his own trailer and
that got good.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
No, no, pissed on his own trailer and that got good.
No, no, that was no.
Okay, the owner of said trailerwas there, I was the one that
went to take a piss.
Oh, you're the one that got uskicked, yeah, so.
So we were at a tow show and wewere hanging out by the back of
one of our trucks and again, wewere staying on property, so
we'd knocking down, drinking anddriving, yeah, and, and we were
just shooting the breeze withsome towers and we had a cooler
(14:04):
in the back and we were pullingout beers, keeping them low,
just you know, hanging outhaving a good time, and security
was eyeballing us, eyeballingus, eyeballing us, and we were
with some of the board members,if I'm not mistaken at the time,
um, who hired said security.
And so you know again, we'renot causing a ruckus, we're not
anything.
We're really keeping toourselves and being respectful
and causing a ruckus.
We're not anything.
(14:24):
We're really keeping toourselves and being respectful.
And then I gotta piss.
You know, I've had a couplewobbly pops.
I walk over to the tree line,there's a trailer there, and I
go behind the trailer yeah, soyou're out of sight out of sight
the seal yeah, and I break theseal.
That security guard was so fastto come over and that was the
final straw.
Apparently that was what brokethe camel's back.
I've been letting you guys getaway with this, but that's it,
(14:46):
and I'm like what first of all,it's his trailer.
He paid you and, like I, wentin the bush behind the trailer
so that, like what do you wantme to just pee in the middle of
the parking lot?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
like that would be grounds to absolutely get me out
of there right away let me justcrawl, jump in my truck and
grab a piss jug out of the backpiss in the jug and then throw
it into your parking lot so youcan pick it up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, and then you know, we ended up back at the
cabin and we stayed up towhatever time shooting the
breeze and everything else.
It is really a good time.
I really enjoy these tow showsfor that I find you can.
You can see people you haven'tseen in a long time.
You've got.
You've got you know.
We know towers have stories.
(15:27):
That's the whole origin of thisshow, right, and, and we've got
some of the tamer ones, can youknow, compared to some of these
people that we meet from likenorthern ontario and everything
else, and you can just have aconversation, just towers having
a conversation.
No one's pulling it out andtrying to be the biggest guy at
the show.
No one's doing any of thatstuff.
It's just wholesome towersgetting together.
That's why I think these showsare so important.
(15:47):
Right, in an industry sodivided, two days to get
together and have a good timeright, it's a good.
You and I it's the one time ayear we get to record in person
together, right, and if youhaven't seen last year's show,
it was one of my favorites thatwe did from the hotel room.
(16:08):
We were laughing, we had agrand time.
We're both under the influence ahundred percent, but we had a
grand time the year before that.
We did it from the same hotelbut in, like the restaurant,
because we didn't have a roombig enough to to do a recording,
and without sitting on our beds, um, so, yeah, so if you
haven't already like, mark it onyour calendar.
September 13th and 14th uh,down in kitchener, ontario,
(16:33):
bingman's resort it's likebingman's family camping and
something.
Um, there's a lot of hotels inthe area.
G was the genius that told me Ihad booked a hotel.
I found it a little pricey.
I went online at Airbnb.
After he gave me the idea, Ifound an awesome little B&B
nearby and so we'll be at theshow all weekend.
(16:53):
Like I said, submit your stuff.
You can email us atthetowinglifeatgmailcom.
You can head over to thewebsite towinglifeca.
There's a comment section.
There's a contact us sectionright on it, and you can also,
like I said, down over on theYouTube side, send us a message
on Facebook.
Whatever it is that you want todo, we will be more than happy
to oblige and be sure to getyour preorder in for your
(17:14):
t-shirt to ensure that we haveyour size when we get there.
I don't know how much past thepreorder we're going to bring.
We normally bring a limitedinventory.
Again, we are a lower budgetshow.
I am not going to go invest in$10,000 with a clothing to be
one show per year, exactly.
So get your preorder in, we'llget that equipment ordered.
I think it's going to somewherebe around the end of August
(17:36):
that the preorder is going toclose just due to the fact that
we've got to get it produced andpackaged and ready to go.
So yeah, I'm excited for it.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I really am.
Yeah, like I was.
I was looking at the hotel andI was like, ooh, that's going to
be expensive, especially sinceI wanted to bring my dog, right,
right, that's what we want todo.
Me and the girlfriend were like, oh, okay, so then not really
(18:11):
fair to the dog, maybe we shouldjust leave it.
And I was like I do have thathouse trailer that I could drag
down there and the cost savingsto you're gonna get a site.
Yeah, it's like, well, the costsavings between the hotel,
because I think the hotel isgoing to be around six hundred
dollars for two nights and Ineed to stay for three, right,
yeah, we should all should,really should stay for three,
because the start of the towshow for us to set up is friday
morning, so you want to be downthere in good time and so you're
looking at three nights.
So you're going to be close toalmost a thousand dollars in
(18:32):
hotel stays, plus, if I throw adog fee on top of that, it's
going to be like twelve hundreddollars.
Airbnbs are a lot cheaperaround four, five hundred
dollars for the three nights.
But I could order a campsite atbigman's with electricity and
running water, uh, for like twohundred dollars for three nights
and the dog's free like you cankeep the dog at the site, and
(18:53):
he's not, even if I spend anextra two hundred dollars where
the fuel and my commons drag inthe house trailer down, which
I'm not.
It's four hundred dollars for athree night getaway, for like a
trip, plus your food and youreverything else.
But like it's just a great.
You can make it a fairly lowcost venture because to enter
the show it's five dollars.
You get to hang around with abunch of towers and just shoot
(19:16):
the breeze with people you know,people you haven't met.
It's a great networkingopportunity and it doesn't have
to be an expensive getaway.
It can be if you want it to be,yeah, but it doesn't have to be
an expensive getaway.
It can be if you want it to be,yeah, but it doesn't have to be
.
You can do it on the cheap.
They've got containers therethat I think are like 75 a night
, 50 a night, um.
You can even tent camp there ifyou want.
Like there there is options.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
There's options for it and it's in september.
It's still early enough in theyear.
The way the weather goesnowadays in september like
you're more than I've campedplenty of times in september you
can make this a cost-effectivetrip.
To head down, one of my biggestcomplaints I had over the
previous years and this didn'tjust go for myself, it was
multiple people was the food onsite.
There was never food on site.
Remember that.
Well, this year they'velistened.
(19:58):
They brought in food trucks.
There will be food on site oh,that's got me excited.
Yeah, there was alcohol on sitelast year too.
Remember they opened up thatlittle window.
They had pizza.
They finally convinced I don'tknow how they pulled it off they
had pizza and they were sellingbeer and everything else.
It's a really good time.
I can't explain enough.
It is an annual tradition.
(20:18):
We have been doing for at leastthe last four years.
Five years we've done, I thinklast four years, five years
we've done.
Yeah, um, I think covid mighthave played a little role on one
of them, uh, one or two of them, just like it did everything
else, yeah, uh, but yeah, no, ifyou're in the ontario area,
like I travel, what's the travelfor me?
Seven hours, something likethat, I think it's like seven
hours for me to travel, to go,and I still make sure to to go
(20:41):
every year.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's almost far enough for you that you could
justify a flight oh, yeah, yeah100.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It's right on that borderline.
If if our airfare prices weresimilar to the states, I would
be fine, yeah yeah, I know somepeople who actually own
airplanes fly to this event yeah, so do I.
I end up having to pick them up.
I picked him up a couple oftimes, seeing him walk off with
a suit over his shoulder,walking away from his little
(21:09):
Cessna and like you're, you're,we're in different tax brackets.
All I'm saying I'm still tryingto, I'm trying to get you know.
I want to take my company truckjust to save my fuel cost.
But yeah, no.
So head over to the website.
If you want more information,you can always head over to the
professional towing associationof Ontario's website, which is P
, t, a, o, dot O R G.
(21:30):
You'll find all the informationthere, with all the different
seminars.
Our logo is down there.
They have once again called uson their website toe life
podcast.
I mean close enough, I'm notgoing to split hairs over them
calling me the wrong name.
They've been always very goodto us.
They've taken care of us.
(21:51):
They missed the I-N-G.
It's just Toe.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Life.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
What is a couple of letters among friends?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You can be toe life and I'll be the ing.
You'll be the ing, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I'll be the ing.
You'll be the silent partner inthe back that nobody sees.
Yeah, no, it is a good time tohead over to that.
There was a story that I said Iwanted to save for the show and
I don't remember it.
Right before we started talkingI said, never mind, I'm going
to tell it on the show.
Oh, I remember Crazy AmericanRoad Sides, remember.
(22:28):
Right before we started talkingI said, never mind, I'm gonna
tell no show.
Oh, I remember crazy americanroadsides.
So you haven't been around asmuch gee, but there has been a
surge of.
I have never heard of towingcompany or like towing roadsides
that are popping up everywhere.
Some you've probably heard of.
Right, I've, I've seen postsonline.
Nation Safe Drivers is one whorecently has been reaching out
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to us Urgently, has called, butthey're always state to state,
which is obviously something wecan't do.
Being a Canadian company.
I've never actually seen themhave a call in Canada, not to
mention all the things I'veheard online about them.
I do not want to deal with themwith payment.
It was a post that brought thisto my attention.
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I was, you know, on socialmedia the other day and I seen a
post about someone complainingabout roadsides, which is.
I mean you can find those postseverywhere on the internet.
Every other day you see one.
Yeah.
And you know the post was alittle jarbled and I felt
uneducated.
But, that being said, they werelike you know, we can't keep
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doing these roadside calls andthey were referring to these
companies, these nation safedrivers, these urgently ina.
I think is another one, um,there's a couple of them and
they just it seems like they'remultiplying yep so you can do
these roadsides, and we do theseroadsides, but we do these
roadsides at a retail rate,right, like if you call me for a
tow out of the blue, I'm, it'sat the retail rate.
So I had a roadside recentlywhich did not make sense to me.
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They gave us a call and theysaid we've got this vehicle
broken down in this city andit's going about a kilometer or
two down the road.
This city is an hour away fromus.
So, like a good dispatcher, ourdispatcher took the information
and said we can gladly help you.
Let me put together a price foryou on that.
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So he puts together a price,right, don't forget about a
hundred and like a hundred andsome kilometers on route hookup
fee, flatbed fee, tow twokilometers, yeah, comes back
with a price.
I don't remember what it was,let's say 400 and some dollars.
Roadside accepts, no problem.
(24:42):
It was for like a, a transit, asmall little transit van that
is for like a massive chaincorporation, right, one of those
ones you would rent per day,not u-haul but something along
those lines.
My dispatcher, you know,accepts the call and goes what
do I do?
I don't have anybody availableto go that far away for that one
right at this moment said noproblem, I make a call to a
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local company company that Ideal with plenty said hey, this
is what I got, are you able tohelp me out on it?
And he goes no problem, I gogive me.
Give me a rate like charge mewhat you got to charge me.
He gives me a rate that's abouta quarter of what I charged, no
problem no consider it paid.
Right, you want, you want checkyou, transfer.
How do you want to be paid?
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And he goes and he does thecall for me.
He's like why are they callingyou?
I'm like I don't know, but youmade your retail, you made your
money and he had a truck not fararound the corner.
Like he made, I made sure hemade good money.
I made good money, yeah, androll a truck and it's.
I looked up this, this roadside.
They're like kentucky.
So these people are looking ata map.
I have no goddamn idea who, whoand where.
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Yeah, and and I mean you knowthere was nothing negative about
what we did.
I gave them my cost to get thatcall taken care of for them.
I included the mileage becauseof how far away we were.
I am not willingly going to tellyou there is a like.
If it was a retail customer,I'd be like 100.
Hey, you know what call theseguys.
They're much closer.
(26:07):
They to help you out.
We've talked about that before.
That can really help build yourbusiness.
But these roadsides that arebeing built to try and profit
and everything off these things,if you're going to call me for
a call two, three hours away,I'll give you a price.
And I got and I was worried.
I'm like now the fight becomesgetting paid by this roadside.
The call was paid before wewere ever on scene, nice, before
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the truck ever got there.
Like they were really well todeal with.
I have to give it to them butlike for them to accept those
like.
That is where the networking inthe towing industry is
important.
That is where you say as muchas we're competition, we can
work together if I have acustomer that breaks down
somewhere that I like doesn'tmake sense for me to go service.
If it's a customer that breaksdown somewhere that I like
doesn't make sense for me to goservice, if it's a customer, a
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charge account customer, I willbuild my customer and I will get
him a truck up there.
Right Like, I will contact you,know you, and say, hey, gee, I
got this truck here, can you gotow it?
Yeah, send me the bill, I'llbuild the customer.
And I'll build the customer,just like the small markup above
your rate, right Like.
I'm not trying to my chargeaccount customers.
I'm not trying to takeadvantage of anybody.
I want them to be paid Like.
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I want them to get a fair pricefor their services and I will
coordinate it.
They don't have to, they, theydon't have to.
You know you're going to getpaid by me, yep, so you're not
like concerned on and you knowI'm gonna pay you if I'm calling
you, and then you get to runyour trucks at your retail rates
and still you know, make your.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Make your money.
See, this is something thatI've always dealt with in the
towing industry is I could neverreally wrap my head around
advertising for towing right, um, you can support your local
teams.
You can have well-cleanedtrucks and have your driving
billboards going down the roadso you're in the public's eye
that you service their area.
(27:53):
I've always think that'sprobably the best thing to do.
Keep your advertising budgetlocal, if you even want to call
it an advertising budget.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
A hundred percent Right.
I have a straight-upadvertising budget.
I have a marketing budget.
Yep Right.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
So most companies have facebook pages.
I've never really seen and yousee it in the towing groups a
little bit and like the big toetalk where guys will advertise
their towing company in there,which that doesn't make sense to
me because you're you'repreaching to other towers, but
anyways, it starts to make methink so okay, you have this
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pop-up roadside service providerout of the States and they have
no idea what Canada even lookslike.
They just know that we'reAmerica's hat.
And when they type in towing inthis area, well, if you have
sponsored Google Ads running,you might be top of the list.
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So that could be somethingwhere what happened to you?
They call you for a tow that'san hour away because the other
guy doesn't have their websiteset up to where it shows up on
google correctly, because a lotof people will just type in
towing near me if they need atow truck and they don't already
know who to deal with.
(29:10):
If they don't deal with aroadside, yeah, and then they'll
get like the big guys that popup who have the advertising
budget.
But then at the flip side, as aconsumer, if I see that I call
this towing company because Ityped into Google towing
companies near me.
They give me a price.
I'm assuming they're local, butsince it's a sponsored ad,
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they're coming from three hoursaway and that's going to upset
me and it's probably also goingto reflect in the bill or the
wait time.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Right.
But you know what's weird islike, and that's right.
I can't see it being that,because I just Googled towing in
the city in which this call,this call was in question, and I
must have gotten, and I evenfiltered my search, thinking
maybe it's along those lines.
I filtered my search to 4.5stars and above.
I am about the 30th on the list.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, and it's yeah, like I'm about the 30th on and
you have your search historyrevolving around your company
anyway, of course I've.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I've.
You know it's a good time tomention, I have a 4.8 star on on
google with a 446 reviews, um,but yeah, I know like, so I you
know what I mean.
If anything, google would wouldpush towards my company and I'm
still so far down, so I don'tknow how they came out like.
I do not know, but this iswhere, again, benefits of things
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like the tow show you networkwith these.
You network with companies inyour area or companies from
different parts of the province.
You get to know them, right.
I don't know how many times I'vegot a customer out of toronto
that'll call us and say, hey,hey, my guy's broken down here.
You guys able to take care ofthem.
It doesn't make sense for me tosend a truck down.
No problem, who am I billing?
(30:54):
Am I billing you?
Yeah, bill me directly.
Okay, no problem, right, I'lleven go out on a limb and any
towing company like that thatwe've.
You know that we've got somesort of contact with, like, if
you're just joe, blow out of theblue, uh, maybe not, but I'll
give them 30 days on the on thepayment.
You know, I mean like as ifthey had a charge account,
because it's we, we get theindustry, we do the same thing.
I kind of expect in return.
(31:15):
Um, but you know what I mean.
It's like hey, my guy's brokendown there.
I don't want him to get screwedby some company.
Can you go take care of them?
What's the rate?
Send me the bill and thenthey'll take that bill, add 15
percent, charge the customer,right and the customer.
It's good for them, because thecustomer knows every time if I
get broken down, I'm gonna calllike I'm not trying to steal his
customer.
I don't want his customer tocall me when he's in that area.
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That is his customer, yeah,right.
So the best thing you can havefor your customer is when they
call you and it's not an areayou can service or it's not.
Whatever the case may be, itisn't just hey, call these guys,
it's no problem, I'll get thattaken care of for you.
Do the extra legwork.
That way, every time thecustomer has somebody broken
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down, he's gonna go through you,right, because he's like hey, I
know that if I call a one, two,three towing, no matter where
I'm at, they'll get me sortedout.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, and you don't have to be a massive company
that can service six hours awayno Right, but you've built this
relationship with your customer.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
And so what if BCD Towing shows up in your ACB
Towing right, yeah, a lot oftimes they know that, like we
don't hide that from ourcustomers, that we're going to
sub it out.
We're going to sub it out andmake sure that you know it's a
company that you're not going toend up with a six hour travel
bill for nothing.
It'll be a company in that areaand it's got to be a company
that you trust and it's got tobe a company that you know what
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I mean set up a tow for them andhave one of your.
You know, a company that youknow take care of it, only to
end up with a damage claim or toend up with a.
You know, like I mean, shithappens, no matter what.
Shit happens.
Right, I am, trust me, I'm theking of that.
Right now I have the month ofjuly.
I have had so many damageclaims for stupid things.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Is that why you want me to come to work with you?
So bad?
No, no, not at all.
Even though I've got like aFord story the other week.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I had a booster cable so surprisingly you ever run
into this.
No co, big fan of the no cobooster packs.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I still say there might be operator error on this
one.
I have yet to confirm it.
It is what it is.
Guy goes to tow of our boostervehicle, puts the no-co on.
He turns it on, puts it on butdoes not override it.
That's the statement.
But turns it on, puts it on,sits there for a second wires
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start smoking, shuts it off.
Now the no-goes are built inwith like a polarity protector
right yeah so the simple thingwould be is that we overrode it
goes.
I swear and I and I know thisoperator and I trust this
operator.
He's a great operator.
He's like I didn't hit theoverride.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, you got to hold the override.
For what?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
three seconds, three seconds and then you hear the
relay click and yeah, next timeput it on before turning it on,
just as a safety maybe, becausethen I put it on backwards
without turning it on.
Right, because they'll readvoltage without turning them on.
Yeah, and it gives me the alert.
You know the red light lightsup, nope, flip.
Yeah, and it gives me the alert.
You know the red light lightsup, nope, flip it around, it
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gives me the voltage.
Okay, so the no-go, the system'sworking.
The problem was is that the carthat he did this on was a 64
Corvette, oh, and there's anengine wiring harness that is
melted, just the main power wiregoing through it, yeah, which
looks like you could just cut itout and put a new power, like
run a new wire, it's notcomplicated.
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It's a simple system.
Being that old, it's a verysimple system.
It looks like it's wrapped inelectrical tape.
Apparently it's not electricaltape, that's actually a GM thing
.
The problem is this guy's caris pristine.
I mean, while we were towing itbecause we ended up towing it
to the garage of his choice toget it fixed and we're taking
care of it I look and there'sthree marks underneath on the
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car like paint drips, and I gowhat is that?
Like cause everything else inthis thing looks like the paint
is beautiful.
Like even you know had to.
Like did the paint the oldschool way.
Like he has rebuilt this thing,but rebuilt this thing to spec
of its time.
Yep, I built this thing, butrebuilt this thing to spec of
its time.
Yep, you always see these threelines here and these two lines
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here.
What is that?
He goes, those are the shimmarks.
He goes when they wouldassemble the cars in the plant,
the guy, before they put thebody on, would mark how many
shims.
Or when they mount the body,would mark how many shims it's
going to need on the front andthe back for the body.
They even went into detail tomaking sure those were on there.
Wow, so it wasn't a simple factof we'll just pull this wire
out and retake it back up, go tocrappy tire and grab a yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I mean, I've got.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I've got a lot of guys that do electrical in my
shop that are like whizzes andthe cleanest finishing work I've
ever seen.
But at the end of the day it'sthe customer's choice.
I've got another one right nowfor a guy who wore his keys
hanging on his key ring left thescratch.
It looks like in a 1982 oneowner ford f-150.
Oh, like just the, just likethings that you don't expect and
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bullshit.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
That happens and again, that's why I know a lot
of people will tuck their shirtsin to look more professional.
A I don't do that because I gota bit of a gut and that just
accentuates the gut when you gotyour shirt tucked in.
But if you got a longer shirtthat also covers up your belt
buckle, which is a goodscratching hazard if you do have
to lean over a fender right orif you have your keys hanging
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out right, it just gives youthat little bit more protection
it's, it's.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
It's not a terrible argument you can make.
I think that argument can bemade for, um, a work shirt on
tux, providing it doesn't looklike a dress on you because it's
so long, um.
But yeah, no it it's.
It's little things like the keyhanging and it's like man just
rubbed up against it while hewas reaching in to steer it,
while pulling it onto the bedwith his remote, like little,
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and it's one of those.
It's such a faint scratch thatI couldn't have proved it was
there before.
Even with photos I couldn'thave proved it was there.
Yeah, you know the first photohe sent me.
I can't even see the thing, butyou can assure you it's a 1984.
So I think it was 84, 82, fordF one 50.
The guy is the original ownerof the thing but he's taken care
of it.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
He's got pride in it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, and I'm sure he washes this thing, him.
He's a great gentleman, it'snot something he's just looking
to come after us.
Yep, and those are the worstbecause, again, it's all right.
Well, you know, especially whenit's classic stuff like that
that people take pride in, it'snot all right, we'll bring it to
my shop, we'll get a paint.
No, no, it's all right.
(37:56):
Who do you deal with?
Well, I deal with One in town,of course.
No, no, no, not quite, but thatis true, it does happen.
Yep, right, and it's just allright.
Well, get it.
And you have to.
So many companies, I think,will fight to get away from that
stuff, which, hey, I'm nothappy to be paying out these
claims, but, any stretch of theimagination, they absolutely
burn my ass.
(38:16):
Mm-hmm.
When I look at the budget at theend of the year and I see the
damage claims and I go andespecially stuff where it's not
training, like the booster pack.
This guy that did it.
This wasn't a train thing, he'sbeen trained on this booster
pack.
He knows this thing Well.
It was, I don't know I, youknow on his.
I don't know I have an ideathat the override was on.
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But I trust this operatorwholeheartedly.
He's never given me a reasonnot to, so I take his word for
it.
I go all right, it's a flukeaccident, but it's frustrating
because at one point, like Isaid, the key's off the side.
That's just to smarten up,that's just to hey, that's a
learning curve for you.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Put your keys in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Put your keys in your pocket.
My keys are in my pocket.
If not, they're in my trucklike little things like that can
cost you my keys on a lanyard.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
So whenever I'm working I make sure that lanyard
isn't hanging out, because whenyou're working around these
things you don't want anythingthat can grab you and hold you
back right a lanyard it's easyto get caught on, especially
doorknobs coming in and out ofplaces.
I've had my lanyard get hookedin one of the actual handles and
my keys come flying out of mypocket and you're like shit.
(39:29):
It just looks unprofessional.
So shove that down in yourpocket.
Most of our work pants have thecargo pockets down on the thigh
.
Put them in there, because ifyou're kneeling you're not going
to be kneeling onto your keys.
Even if you have to lay down,you're going to be laying down
on your back or your side thecargo pants.
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You might feel the key a littlebit or just leave it in the
truck right.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I have guys that are so bad for that they leave, like
they'll leave their wallet inthe truck, which I'm like no,
that's crazy to me.
But like I have, yeah, thepants, I have my wallet on my
right side because I've got the.
I've got my wallet right side,I got my smokes on the left side
and there's a little pocket onthe left side as well where I
keep my wireless earbuds.
And, like I've been upside downin ditches, I've never dropped
it, like I've never had themfall out my side pockets, but,
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like these cargo pockets, I'venever lost something and and,
trust me, I've been in someweird upside down situations
where, you know, a lot of timesI take the stuff out if I'm
gonna be crazy, only because Idon't want to get wet.
Yeah, isn't because I'm worriedabout it falling out, I'm
worried about it getting wet.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I personally love breast pockets, so you just put
your hey breast pockets you hatethem, I love breast pockets
stuff all the time oh yeah, shitfalls out of them all the time,
even just been over to put yourdollies on.
But I just love it.
But the fact that I love breastpockets so much is the fact
that I leave my keys, my walletand my vape in the truck.
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When I get out of the tow truckto do work, very rarely do I
even have my phone on me, unlessI'm dispatching at that time,
right, I keep my pockets empty.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
How are you documenting stuff?
How are you taking photos?
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (41:16):
all that, I would grab the device that's in the
truck.
I do the full corner pictures.
I'd put that back in the truck,right?
I use a lot of older androidequipment to where the battery
life isn't that great anyway, soit just always stays plugged in
take it out with a new onecomes out yeah, yeah, oh, you
got a new update.
Your battery is now 50 percentlower.
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Um, take the four pictures, orhowever many pictures document
it, put that back in the truck,grab my gloves and then start
hooking up the vehicle.
Unless I am putting a customerin my truck to where they would
be able to grab my wallet is theonly time would I take my
wallet and I put it in my cargoshort or cargo pants pocket yeah
(41:58):
, 100.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
I've definitely had customers in a truck where I go
like, yeah, taking this out ofhere because I don't really
trust you like the phone.
They're not stupid because thephone is sitting up normally on
a dash mount or something yeah,and that's I noticed.
We're not leaving yeah, likewe're not leaving until we find
this phone, so like, but yourwallet I mean, yeah, you leave
in a set of console.
(42:19):
You you're hooking up, they go.
You may not notice it until yougo grab lunch later on that day
.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Or even just take money out of it, Because, as tow
truck operators or driverssorry now, because of the
Ontario laws we normally have alot of cash.
You might not miss $20 rightaway, you might not miss the $50
right away until you actuallylook.
I know you and myself, we knowpretty much how much cash we
have in our wallets at any giventime?
(42:45):
Yep, but when you're justgetting the truck, you're not
counting the bills every timeyou get in and out of your truck
.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
You just know what's there it's funny you say that
there were tow drivers nowbecause of the ontario law.
Yeah, um, it makes me think Ihad a fun.
I had a fun encounter the otherday, um, so I I responded to a
uh, a police call for a 14 daystunt drive suspension.
So upon arrival I knew theofficer.
Uh, she's been around for along time.
(43:12):
She's temperamental at bestsome days.
Okay.
So I got there and I bring hermy binder which has all my stuff
in it and my DL, my driver'slicense, and I go to her I say,
hey, would this be easier foryou?
I've been working on thissystem for our drivers that when
we respond exactly in thissituation that you would give,
(43:34):
if you give me the incidentnumber as well as the email,
which is they're all Ontario or,you know, police email, so
they're not the driver then likeit's quick, you go instant
number email driver clicks thetruck he's in and his name.
It sends them an email with thedl, the tow certificate, um,
all the truck, the vin, the cvor, the plate, all the information
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that they would need.
And she goes nah, I'm oldschool, I'd rather have it paper
.
No problem, it's something I'mlooking at.
I'm kind of judging what thepolice feel about this before we
, you know, we fully integrateit.
She goes, so she goes to me.
She goes do you have your, yourtow driver certificate?
And I go, yeah.
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So I pull it up and on my onedrive I show her to her and she
goes well, you, you know youneed to physically have it here,
like physically have a card,and I'm like I don't, I don't
think I do, and she's like, yeah, you need to physically have a
card.
She's like, obviously, I knowyou and everything else.
So like I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not gonna write you a
ticket for it by any means, butjust so you know.
(44:41):
Okay, whatever, hook up the car, get it all done.
She comes back to my binder.
She goes you're also missingyour vehicle storage certificate
.
So for the storage facility,it's not in the binder that the
operator for the company is thecvor.
All my other stuff is in there,but but the storage one is.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Oh my god doesn't that need to be at the office
where the storage facility is?
Speaker 1 (45:02):
A hundred percent.
That's what I'm under theimpression she's like.
No, I had a customer the otherday that you know we impounded,
was well-versed in the new tosee act and said that you know
and um and requested to see itto know where his vehicle was
being towed.
And I was can kind of see thepoint, sure.
(45:24):
So I get back to you know, Iget back, I, I do the impound,
everything else and, uh, goodnight.
Someone mentioned music.
Why don't you email to see ya,because they have an email.
So that's a great point.
So I write out an email and Igo.
I have a little bit ofconfusion and I want you know
some clarification is a digitalor an electronic copy of a tow
driver's certificate, towoperator's certificate and
vehicle storage certificateacceptable when requested by
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police or customers?
The response was very clear andsimple that the tow operator
and tow driver's certificatesare completely acceptable in an
electronic format.
The vehicle storage has to be aphysical paper posted at the
location.
So, being the nice guy that Iam and to avoid that and keep
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that as with your electronicdocuments.
I absolutely forwarded thatemail off to the officer and I
said hey, look, you know.
Going back to our conversationthis morning, you know that we
strive to make sure that we areon top of any regulation,
whether it be police, whether itbe mto.
We want to make sure that weare keeping in compliance.
Yep, like I, I'm not hidingthis, I'm not trying to cheat
(46:32):
the system.
You tell me how the rules work.
I'll work within the rules, butI thought you'd be interested
in the email.
I, I, I, I.
You know I reached out to themfor clarification.
Um, and, and this is theresponse that I've gotten I
attached it and I said like youknow, it's a learning curve for
all of us.
Um, I'm like, so, like I'd hopeyou know, like, if you can, let
(47:06):
me but, like you know, we madesure to do it in a professional
and polite way, and it's likehey it's okay, we're all
figuring this out.
This is new to everyone.
Yeah, you know you haven'tgotten adequate training on it.
I've had to go find my ownanswers.
You know what I mean.
Like I know, the policeofficers have not received
training on this.
No.
So it's kind of a tricky one,right, because they still are
(47:27):
those police officers still havethe power to call whoever they
want to call when they feel likeit, like there's limitations
that were put in.
They have the authority tomonitor.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
They have the authority to take it in pound
whatever on the roadside thatthey deem necessary, even if
it's not justified.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
And you can go and find that information directly
from the horse's mouth after thefact right yeah, so I've kept
the email, like I said, handyand yeah, you're right, I,
because I have a.
I have a photo saved of my towoperator, my vehicle storage and
my, my driver, and I've toldall my drivers go grab a photo
of it, save it an album on yourphone.
Don't leave it that it's onlinesomewhere, because if, if
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you're in a dead spot and youcan't produce it, you could, you
could get hit with failure toproduce a tow driver certificate
yep, you see that a lot withthe insurance slips when
officers yeah they're online nowoh, the app needs to update.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Just give me a second .
Well, the cop's not going tosit there all day waiting for
your stupid app.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
No, you have to be able to produce it upon request
within a reasonable time.
Yep.
Right.
So, yeah, it's not.
Oh, follow me to a non-deadspot so I can get.
No, no, no, no, yeah, so I havemine to see a compliance in a
folder with my certificate.
I thought about putting all myemployees in because I have
(48:46):
access to all of them just thatway, like I have access to them
all through the one drive.
So, like, if I am you know whatI mean but like I want, like
each driver needs to have theirsoffline ready to go.
So, for companies that arelooking because we were one of
them we were looking to getlittle laminated cards because
they're also an odd dimension ifyou just print them off a
certificate.
So we're looking little solidcards like a dl that they would
keep right.
They can have information onthe back.
I'm still waiting for my price.
I still kind of like them, butyou don't need to.
(49:08):
You know you can.
For you guys out there, you canget away with with having it on
your phone.
You don't have to carry itbecause the piece of paper you
can laminate it's going to getall folded, wrinkled, everything
else.
Yeah, having it on your.
Here's my certificate.
You want me to send it to you?
Perfect, send me an email orsend me a text.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
You still have to have a driver ID in the truck,
don't you?
So why wouldn't you just putall that information on the back
side of the driver ID on?
Speaker 1 (49:31):
the plane?
Why do you need a driver ID inthe truck?
Speaker 2 (49:33):
For a lot of roadsides.
You need a little picture.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
You know, I don't have any of those I know, I
never had one either I did, I,did I did not.
I did back when we workedtogether.
I had one, I don't have onehere.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
I think that's the reason, because we put up such a
fuss when we work together.
Is they never asked for mypicture?
Speaker 1 (49:55):
again.
Yeah, when they started sendingyour picture in full name to
customers without telling you,and they're still doing that.
I bet they are, I bet they are.
Damn those roadsides, damnthose roadsides.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
So full name and picture.
Yeah, that's a slap.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Maybe bring it up to them at the if we get set up at
the provincial uh professionaltowing association Ontario
neighbors last year.
Exactly If we're neighbors withthem.
Again, maybe we will.
We will bring up the id.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I got my truck towed a couple months ago and I I
showed the driver that showed upand I was like this is all the
information I have on you and assoon as you click dr, I now
know where you roughly live,because that's where the map
starts from.
I'm not sure if you live thereand he was like no, that's my
boss's house, but I'm nevertaking the truck home ever again
.
If that's way it is is likeit's pretty indepth, like it
(50:39):
updates every like 10 seconds.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, it's kind of scary infringement on our rights
with an association with towingclubs.
So, um, anyways, that beingsaid, don't forget head over to
the website towinglifeca.
You'll find all the info forthe tow show, when we'll be
there, how to get your pre-orderdone for your t-shirt, um and
uh, maybe I hope we have thesame neighbors and we can have a
little more fun.
We're a little more establishedthis year and as our show gets
(51:05):
longer and, and you know, umlonger run out, I am less
worried about getting canceledfor saying something to them.
Um, so I've got a little calm,a little confidence, um, with
them.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
So and they gave away a lot of free stuff last year.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
So and we got a lot of free stuff from.
So, on behalf of myself and mywonderful co-host, mr toman g,
we cannot wait to see you at theshow.
Take care, see you next week,toodles.
Go and get your crane ticket.
Go to your crane and get aticket.
Sounds like a bad time.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
What are we talking about today?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Just bullshit.
Yeah, we're going to talk to.
We're going to promote the PTAOshow.
We're going to talk somebullshit.
Okay.
I'm good with bullshit.
Don't sell it as garbage Likeit's good bullshit.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's not bullshit, it'll be hot garbage it's.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
We're two towers talking about what's going on in
the industry.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
uh yes, important, real, real hot garbage.
Real hot bullshit.
Yeah, it's real, I'll callgarbage don't call garbage one
man's trash is another man'streasure.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You just never know, that's why I look so good on
this show.
Show.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hey everyone, I'm Brad from Calgary.
This is Sean from CambridgeOntario.
I'm Terry from Cornwall Ontario.
Hey, this is Larry from Pit.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Metals British Columbia and you're listening to
the Towing Life Podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Welcome to the Towing Life Podcast, where the ditches
are deep, the trucks are loaded, but the drivers are not I'm
your host, towman g, and asusual, I'm joined by my co-host,
friend and former co-workerwith man with very strong
opinions, mr Plain Guy.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
What is going on?
G.
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh, you know, just another day in the life on the
towing life podcast absolutelywhat a day it is.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It's a beautiful day.
It's 30 degrees outside for ouramerican listeners that's
somewhere in the I don't know.
Uh, it's warm and nice.
Um, my igloo is fully melted.
Um, the moose has been put intothe barn and uh, we're here
recording another episode,episode 146, of the towing life
podcast.
Getting close to that.
(01:49):
150, that's a.
It's a decent milestone in itsown right, I guess.
What would it be?
156 would be about three years,um, uh, yeah three years.
Well, three years is in august.
Three years.
We are coming up on ourthree-year anniversary.
Uh, I think it's time.
We have not talked about thisprior to the show.
As most of the stuff happens,it's probably time to start
(02:10):
looking at doing another live ordoing something along those
lines.
It tends to be our anniversarytradition.
Um, pretty sure we're making upwords at the same time, yeah,
but yes, episode 146 of the tonelife podcast.
We got some great stuff to goover today.
Uh, shoot the shit of the.
Uh, you know two towers thathave been at it long enough,
(02:30):
just having a good time andtalking about some fun.
Before we get into that, it isa good time to mention if you
want to reach out, have yourvoice heard on the show.
There's multiple ways that youcan do it.
You can visit us atwwwtowinglifeca, you can email
us at thetowinglife at gmailcom,or you can visit us over on
(02:52):
Facebook by searching the TowingLife podcast.
If you're watching over on theYouTube side, if you're one of
the lucky few that can sit downand have enough time to
physically watch us on a screen,there is the option to like and
subscribe and leave a commentdown below.
It's always appreciated, andyou guys really do help push our
content in the direction you sochoose, unless we don't like it
(03:15):
, and then we'll move itwhichever way we decide.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
If you're watching on YouTube, your phone better not
be in the gauge cluster of yourtruck while you're going down
the road.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yes, 100%.
We do notone um nor encouragethat kind of activity.
So, uh, that being said, it'sit's kind of exciting g?
Um.
We've announced recently overon our social media um, I don't
think we ever actually did it onthe show, but we will be.
It is confirmed.
We will be in attendance onceagain for the 2024 PTAO Tow Show
(03:48):
, which is the ProfessionalTowing Association of Ontario's
Tow Show being held.
I have it here September 13thand 14th at Bingman's in
Kitchener.
It's a venue that they've hadto host this tow show for many
years.
It's a great little venue.
There's a lot to show.
For many years it's a it's agreat little venue.
Uh, there's a lot to do there.
Like around there there's theboston pizzas.
(04:09):
Uh, with bowling, there's allkinds for the family.
You can camp right on site.
They've got uh different.
Well, they have like diggergames and stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Like they've got a bunch for the kids yeah, the
only issue is that's outside ofthe actual like camping season,
so I'm not sure if everything atbig men's is open, but they got
mini golf and I remember themini golf was open, the water
park wasn't.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I think, yeah, the water park might be a little
chilly in september anyways yeah.
so if you are in ontario or anyof the surrounding you know area
, especially in the kitchenerarea I know there's a lot of
some folks from Burlington, um,you know or or down Buffalo side
Uh, it's pretty, uh, prettyclose drive.
If you're anywhere in Ontario,do not forget to attend, uh,
(04:54):
ptao's toe show September 13thand 14th.
Um, we will be there.
We are doing this year so lastyear.
Last year was funny.
We brought merch to the show.
We had brought the the shirtsthat the G is wearing right now
to the show, not knowing whatthe consensus was going to be,
(05:15):
what, what volume we needed tobring, you know no idea.
We just brought like 12 or 16shirts, yeah, yeah, and some
hats.
I think there was some hats andwe said whatever sells sells and
whatever doesn't sell, it iswhat it is.
And my God, we had broughtforms just in case we didn't
have a size that somebodyrequested.
And, my God, I spent the nexttwo weeks filling out orders.
What a success it was.
(05:37):
So we thank all those thatattended.
We will be doing it again thisyear.
The difference is this year tomake sure that we have what you
need.
We have launched a pre-order forthe show, right?
Last thing I want to do is isget there and not have the size
you need.
Um, you know some people.
If they don't have it there,you know they're just not going
(05:57):
to get it.
I get it right.
It takes time to mail it out.
So if you are going to be atthe toe show, you can can head
over to our um, our Facebookpage.
You will see, uh, the link weshared for the pre-order.
You can fill it out, get thepre-order done.
We will deliver the shirtsdirectly to the toe show.
Uh, this year we are going with, uh, the same logo that is, on
(06:18):
the front of G shirt the toe inlife podcast and on the sleeve
as well as on the back.
We are going with our porn start-shirts.
They were very popular, um, Igot called out for one in
baltimore for having one on.
I remember that.
Um, so it's uh.
A brief description is is youknow, towing saved me from being
a porn star?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
now I'm just a hooker I'll put a logo up on screen if
you're on the youtube sideabsolutely, we can also go.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You, like I said, you can visit our social media,
find the pre pre-order page andgo there and get it.
You'll see the t-shirt rightthere.
A lot of big sponsors, which isgreat to see for this year's
tow show.
Right, you've got your, yourusual big players Eagle towing.
You know Abrams, you've got.
Tow soft.
You've got.
You know abram I think I saidabram's rescue 51 big hook
(07:07):
towing.
A lot of towing companies haveeven supported to help make this
show as much as of a success aspossible and they've got a lot
of great stuff going on thisyear.
I was going through kind of theseminar, the uh, the itinerary,
I guess, and you know I see evtraining seminar panel
discussion.
They've got their yearly AGM.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
That's for the membership side of it.
Is Canadian going there?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
this year.
Yep, okay, you do not need tobe a member of the PTAO to
attend this show.
So if you're out of province,out of state, whatever it is,
you do not need to be a member.
You can come.
There's a $5 fee to get in.
If you be a member, you cancome.
There's a five dollar um fee toget in, um, if you are a member
.
If you're not a member in theprovince, you probably should
become one um and uh, it's freefor them.
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You've got a meet and greet onthe friday night.
We always enjoyed that down atwaterloo brewery or brewery
right.
We've gone in, we have somedrinks, mingle and shake hands
with.
You know a lot of the big bigplayers in the industry and not,
and not just you know a lot ofthe big big players in the
industry and not, and not just.
You know this isn't just where,like, sales reps are trying to
wind dine in.
You know just towers, justtowers, having I don't know how
many late nights we spent out attables having drinks with
(08:14):
people at Waterloo brewery, just, you know, discussing all the
fun time we've had.
So that is on the Friday night.
Saturday they do a memorialprocession parade.
We had filmed a bit of thatlast year.
For the Fallen, the tow showopens.
There's a show and shinecontest, which has always turned
up some great competition.
There are some beautiful trucksthat show up at the Ontario Tow
(08:38):
Show.
There's a seminar on RSLA,which is Leans, repair and
Storage.
Leans Act to help towingcompanies move forward with
collecting payment on vehiclesand how to put liens against
vehicles and how to ensureyou're going to get paid a
silent auction.
Uh, there's a speaker I'm nottoo familiar with it called
unstoppable tracy.
Not sure who that is.
(08:59):
We will look into that.
Uh, there's a women's uhluncheon.
My wife has attended thatbefore, so it's.
It's an event dedicated towomen in the industry.
Right, women supporting womenin the industry.
We know that this is a maledominated industry.
Um, you know, I think we'reseeing big changes and like
(09:19):
shifts to that, like I thinkyou're seeing a lot more women
come into the industry.
So it's a great time to gettogether with them um, discuss
maybe any struggles they've hadand you know how to overcome any
issues they've ran into.
All that good stuff.
There's a weights and balancesession and balances that.
I think that'll be good inOntario recently with the
requirement to enter scales.
A lot of emphasis has been puton how to properly scale your
(09:42):
tow truck and and what yourtruck can legally uh do.
And then later on that nightthere's an award banquet with
bill nuvo, um, I don't know who.
This one is unusuallyentertaining.
Last year they had a magician.
You didn't go to the banquetlast year, no, but last year
(10:02):
they had a magician and I will.
It was like a magician and amentalist and I will admit I
actually partook in part of theum the event.
We were.
We were tasked with chainingthis guy up.
It was me and uh derrick, uhderrick to down and two big lads
(10:23):
and we were like I was tryingto suffocate this guy and we
tied this thing up and he wasquite comical, like he was a
comedian as well.
It was a great time and he puton an amazing show.
The entertainment was awesome,the food was great, the silent
auction was fun.
It was overall a really goodtime.
So, you know, get your ticketsto the banquet and have a good
(10:44):
time.
Like I said, the EV will beinteresting.
Actually, yeah, the EV trainingseminar will be interesting.
Maybe we'll see if we can get alittle bit of you know, insight
into that and see if we can geta little bit of recording from
the show for you guys.
Also, for those of you thataren't in Ontario, aren't able
to make the tow show, aren't inOntario, aren't able to make the
tow show, most of the stars,most of the people from Heavy
(11:09):
Rescue, 401, right, which is apopular show that unfortunately
ended now for the last coupleyears, will be in attendance at
the show.
If you know in advance thatthere is somebody that you want
us to sit down and talk with, ifyou know there is some
equipment that'll be there.
Or or you know, even if it'snot a heavy rescue but something
that you want covered from theshow, don't hesitate and reach
(11:31):
out to us.
We will do our best to based onand I know g did a phenomenal
job of that last year or was theyear before as well.
No, but you went around and youfound stuff that that I
wouldn't really think of, right,you went out and you round, you
found stuff I remember you dida couple years ago you did a
great job with with bryce umtalking about his rotators and
that, that kind of stuff.
(11:52):
So if there is specificequipment you guys are looking
at.
If you want a full rundown,maybe some nrc equipment,
because ontario is big with nrcit's not as popular still in the
states.
It's growing um but it's notquite there should grow faster
really, the equipment isabsolutely um rika is there like
there's.
There's vendors from everywhere.
So if it's something that youknow you have some questions
(12:14):
about, whether it be a specificpiece of equipment, a specific
brand, or you know a questionfor a specific person don't
hesitate, reach out to us.
We'll do our best while we'reat that show give me a to-do
list.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I want to stay busy during this toe show I'll.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
If they don't, I will .
You can go get sandwiches.
Make sure the coolers arestocked oh, that's.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
That's why we're camping there this year, because
last year, as always, someone'sgot to stay sober to get us
back to the hotel, and this timewe're camping on site.
So all we got to do is stumbleour way back across the hotel,
and this time we're camping onsite.
So all we got to do is stumbleour way back across the road and
find our.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
We've done that the first year that we did the tow
show.
Yeah, I don't even think thepodcast didn't exist at the time
.
No, you and I rented bingman'shas these c-can campers yeah
like c-can, with, just like somebunk beds, a lamp, maybe a
fridge I think an ac unit too anac unit I remember we had.
We had like hot dogs and we hadcereal with no milk or no bowls
(13:12):
or something.
There was a weird thing that wehad.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
We looked like two college.
I know you were already playing.
I was like, hey, I want to cometo that.
And you're like, yeah, and Ialready had the cabin, the
container cabin.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
So we looked like two frat boys on a camping trip
with nothing in life figured out.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah, and that was some of the best nights.
I think we're out shooting thebreeze until like 1am, getting
kicked out of the parking lot bysecurity, the owner of said
trailer that got pissed onpissed on his own trailer and
that got good.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
No, no, pissed on his own trailer and that got good.
No, no, that was no.
Okay, the owner of said trailerwas there, I was the one that
went to take a piss.
Oh, you're the one that got uskicked, yeah, so.
So we were at a tow show and wewere hanging out by the back of
one of our trucks and again, wewere staying on property, so
we'd knocking down, drinking anddriving, yeah, and, and we were
just shooting the breeze withsome towers and we had a cooler
(14:04):
in the back and we were pullingout beers, keeping them low,
just you know, hanging outhaving a good time, and security
was eyeballing us, eyeballingus, eyeballing us, and we were
with some of the board members,if I'm not mistaken at the time,
um, who hired said security.
And so you know again, we'renot causing a ruckus, we're not
anything.
We're really keeping toourselves and being respectful
and causing a ruckus.
We're not anything.
(14:24):
We're really keeping toourselves and being respectful.
And then I gotta piss.
You know, I've had a couplewobbly pops.
I walk over to the tree line,there's a trailer there, and I
go behind the trailer yeah, soyou're out of sight out of sight
the seal yeah, and I break theseal.
That security guard was so fastto come over and that was the
final straw.
Apparently that was what brokethe camel's back.
I've been letting you guys getaway with this, but that's it,
(14:46):
and I'm like what first of all,it's his trailer.
He paid you and, like I, wentin the bush behind the trailer
so that, like what do you wantme to just pee in the middle of
the parking lot?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
like that would be grounds to absolutely get me out
of there right away let me justcrawl, jump in my truck and
grab a piss jug out of the backpiss in the jug and then throw
it into your parking lot so youcan pick it up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, and then you know, we ended up back at the
cabin and we stayed up towhatever time shooting the
breeze and everything else.
It is really a good time.
I really enjoy these tow showsfor that I find you can.
You can see people you haven'tseen in a long time.
You've got.
You've got you know.
We know towers have stories.
(15:27):
That's the whole origin of thisshow, right, and, and we've got
some of the tamer ones, can youknow, compared to some of these
people that we meet from likenorthern ontario and everything
else, and you can just have aconversation, just towers having
a conversation.
No one's pulling it out andtrying to be the biggest guy at
the show.
No one's doing any of thatstuff.
It's just wholesome towersgetting together.
That's why I think these showsare so important.
(15:47):
Right, in an industry sodivided, two days to get
together and have a good timeright, it's a good.
You and I it's the one time ayear we get to record in person
together, right, and if youhaven't seen last year's show,
it was one of my favorites thatwe did from the hotel room.
(16:08):
We were laughing, we had agrand time.
We're both under the influence ahundred percent, but we had a
grand time the year before that.
We did it from the same hotelbut in, like the restaurant,
because we didn't have a roombig enough to to do a recording,
and without sitting on our beds, um, so, yeah, so if you
haven't already like, mark it onyour calendar.
September 13th and 14th uh,down in kitchener, ontario,
(16:33):
bingman's resort it's likebingman's family camping and
something.
Um, there's a lot of hotels inthe area.
G was the genius that told me Ihad booked a hotel.
I found it a little pricey.
I went online at Airbnb.
After he gave me the idea, Ifound an awesome little B&B
nearby and so we'll be at theshow all weekend.
(16:53):
Like I said, submit your stuff.
You can email us atthetowinglifeatgmailcom.
You can head over to thewebsite towinglifeca.
There's a comment section.
There's a contact us sectionright on it, and you can also,
like I said, down over on theYouTube side, send us a message
on Facebook.
Whatever it is that you want todo, we will be more than happy
to oblige and be sure to getyour preorder in for your
(17:14):
t-shirt to ensure that we haveyour size when we get there.
I don't know how much past thepreorder we're going to bring.
We normally bring a limitedinventory.
Again, we are a lower budgetshow.
I am not going to go invest in$10,000 with a clothing to be
one show per year, exactly.
So get your preorder in, we'llget that equipment ordered.
I think it's going to somewherebe around the end of August
(17:36):
that the preorder is going toclose just due to the fact that
we've got to get it produced andpackaged and ready to go.
So yeah, I'm excited for it.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I really am.
Yeah, like I was.
I was looking at the hotel andI was like, ooh, that's going to
be expensive, especially sinceI wanted to bring my dog, right,
right, that's what we want todo.
Me and the girlfriend were like, oh, okay, so then not really
(18:11):
fair to the dog, maybe we shouldjust leave it.
And I was like I do have thathouse trailer that I could drag
down there and the cost savingsto you're gonna get a site.
Yeah, it's like, well, the costsavings between the hotel,
because I think the hotel isgoing to be around six hundred
dollars for two nights and Ineed to stay for three, right,
yeah, we should all should,really should stay for three,
because the start of the towshow for us to set up is friday
morning, so you want to be downthere in good time and so you're
looking at three nights.
So you're going to be close toalmost a thousand dollars in
(18:32):
hotel stays, plus, if I throw adog fee on top of that, it's
going to be like twelve hundreddollars.
Airbnbs are a lot cheaperaround four, five hundred
dollars for the three nights.
But I could order a campsite atbigman's with electricity and
running water, uh, for like twohundred dollars for three nights
and the dog's free like you cankeep the dog at the site, and
(18:53):
he's not, even if I spend anextra two hundred dollars where
the fuel and my commons drag inthe house trailer down, which
I'm not.
It's four hundred dollars for athree night getaway, for like a
trip, plus your food and youreverything else.
But like it's just a great.
You can make it a fairly lowcost venture because to enter
the show it's five dollars.
You get to hang around with abunch of towers and just shoot
(19:16):
the breeze with people you know,people you haven't met.
It's a great networkingopportunity and it doesn't have
to be an expensive getaway.
It can be if you want it to be,yeah, but it doesn't have to be
an expensive getaway.
It can be if you want it to be,yeah, but it doesn't have to be
.
You can do it on the cheap.
They've got containers therethat I think are like 75 a night
, 50 a night, um.
You can even tent camp there ifyou want.
Like there there is options.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
There's options for it and it's in september.
It's still early enough in theyear.
The way the weather goesnowadays in september like
you're more than I've campedplenty of times in september you
can make this a cost-effectivetrip.
To head down, one of my biggestcomplaints I had over the
previous years and this didn'tjust go for myself, it was
multiple people was the food onsite.
There was never food on site.
Remember that.
Well, this year they'velistened.
(19:58):
They brought in food trucks.
There will be food on site oh,that's got me excited.
Yeah, there was alcohol on sitelast year too.
Remember they opened up thatlittle window.
They had pizza.
They finally convinced I don'tknow how they pulled it off they
had pizza and they were sellingbeer and everything else.
It's a really good time.
I can't explain enough.
It is an annual tradition.
(20:18):
We have been doing for at leastthe last four years.
Five years we've done, I thinklast four years, five years
we've done.
Yeah, um, I think covid mighthave played a little role on one
of them, uh, one or two of them, just like it did everything
else, yeah, uh, but yeah, no, ifyou're in the ontario area,
like I travel, what's the travelfor me?
Seven hours, something likethat, I think it's like seven
hours for me to travel, to go,and I still make sure to to go
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every year.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
It's almost far enough for you that you could
justify a flight oh, yeah, yeah100.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It's right on that borderline.
If if our airfare prices weresimilar to the states, I would
be fine, yeah yeah, I know somepeople who actually own
airplanes fly to this event yeah, so do I.
I end up having to pick them up.
I picked him up a couple oftimes, seeing him walk off with
a suit over his shoulder,walking away from his little
(21:09):
Cessna and like you're, you're,we're in different tax brackets.
All I'm saying I'm still tryingto, I'm trying to get you know.
I want to take my company truckjust to save my fuel cost.
But yeah, no.
So head over to the website.
If you want more information,you can always head over to the
professional towing associationof Ontario's website, which is P
, t, a, o, dot O R G.
(21:30):
You'll find all the informationthere, with all the different
seminars.
Our logo is down there.
They have once again called uson their website toe life
podcast.
I mean close enough, I'm notgoing to split hairs over them
calling me the wrong name.
They've been always very goodto us.
They've taken care of us.
(21:51):
They missed the I-N-G.
It's just Toe.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Life.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
What is a couple of letters among friends?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
You can be toe life and I'll be the ing.
You'll be the ing, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I'll be the ing.
You'll be the silent partner inthe back that nobody sees.
Yeah, no, it is a good time tohead over to that.
There was a story that I said Iwanted to save for the show and
I don't remember it.
Right before we started talkingI said, never mind, I'm going
to tell it on the show.
Oh, I remember Crazy AmericanRoad Sides, remember.
(22:28):
Right before we started talkingI said, never mind, I'm gonna
tell no show.
Oh, I remember crazy americanroadsides.
So you haven't been around asmuch gee, but there has been a
surge of.
I have never heard of towingcompany or like towing roadsides
that are popping up everywhere.
Some you've probably heard of.
Right, I've, I've seen postsonline.
Nation Safe Drivers is one whorecently has been reaching out
(22:49):
to us Urgently, has called, butthey're always state to state,
which is obviously something wecan't do.
Being a Canadian company.
I've never actually seen themhave a call in Canada, not to
mention all the things I'veheard online about them.
I do not want to deal with themwith payment.
It was a post that brought thisto my attention.
(23:10):
I was, you know, on socialmedia the other day and I seen a
post about someone complainingabout roadsides, which is.
I mean you can find those postseverywhere on the internet.
Every other day you see one.
Yeah.
And you know the post was alittle jarbled and I felt
uneducated.
But, that being said, they werelike you know, we can't keep
(23:34):
doing these roadside calls andthey were referring to these
companies, these nation safedrivers, these urgently ina.
I think is another one, um,there's a couple of them and
they just it seems like they'remultiplying yep so you can do
these roadsides, and we do theseroadsides, but we do these
roadsides at a retail rate,right, like if you call me for a
tow out of the blue, I'm, it'sat the retail rate.
So I had a roadside recentlywhich did not make sense to me.
(24:00):
They gave us a call and theysaid we've got this vehicle
broken down in this city andit's going about a kilometer or
two down the road.
This city is an hour away fromus.
So, like a good dispatcher, ourdispatcher took the information
and said we can gladly help you.
Let me put together a price foryou on that.
(24:20):
So he puts together a price,right, don't forget about a
hundred and like a hundred andsome kilometers on route hookup
fee, flatbed fee, tow twokilometers, yeah, comes back
with a price.
I don't remember what it was,let's say 400 and some dollars.
Roadside accepts, no problem.
(24:42):
It was for like a, a transit, asmall little transit van that
is for like a massive chaincorporation, right, one of those
ones you would rent per day,not u-haul but something along
those lines.
My dispatcher, you know,accepts the call and goes what
do I do?
I don't have anybody availableto go that far away for that one
right at this moment said noproblem, I make a call to a
(25:05):
local company company that Ideal with plenty said hey, this
is what I got, are you able tohelp me out on it?
And he goes no problem, I gogive me.
Give me a rate like charge mewhat you got to charge me.
He gives me a rate that's abouta quarter of what I charged, no
problem no consider it paid.
Right, you want, you want checkyou, transfer.
How do you want to be paid?
(25:26):
And he goes and he does thecall for me.
He's like why are they callingyou?
I'm like I don't know, but youmade your retail, you made your
money and he had a truck not fararound the corner.
Like he made, I made sure hemade good money.
I made good money, yeah, androll a truck and it's.
I looked up this, this roadside.
They're like kentucky.
So these people are looking ata map.
I have no goddamn idea who, whoand where.
(25:46):
Yeah, and and I mean you knowthere was nothing negative about
what we did.
I gave them my cost to get thatcall taken care of for them.
I included the mileage becauseof how far away we were.
I am not willingly going to tellyou there is a like.
If it was a retail customer,I'd be like 100.
Hey, you know what call theseguys.
They're much closer.
(26:07):
They to help you out.
We've talked about that before.
That can really help build yourbusiness.
But these roadsides that arebeing built to try and profit
and everything off these things,if you're going to call me for
a call two, three hours away,I'll give you a price.
And I got and I was worried.
I'm like now the fight becomesgetting paid by this roadside.
The call was paid before wewere ever on scene, nice, before
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the truck ever got there.
Like they were really well todeal with.
I have to give it to them butlike for them to accept those
like.
That is where the networking inthe towing industry is
important.
That is where you say as muchas we're competition, we can
work together if I have acustomer that breaks down
somewhere that I like doesn'tmake sense for me to go service.
If it's a customer that breaksdown somewhere that I like
doesn't make sense for me to goservice, if it's a customer, a
(26:49):
charge account customer, I willbuild my customer and I will get
him a truck up there.
Right Like, I will contact you,know you, and say, hey, gee, I
got this truck here, can you gotow it?
Yeah, send me the bill, I'llbuild the customer.
And I'll build the customer,just like the small markup above
your rate, right Like.
I'm not trying to my chargeaccount customers.
I'm not trying to takeadvantage of anybody.
I want them to be paid Like.
(27:12):
I want them to get a fair pricefor their services and I will
coordinate it.
They don't have to, they, theydon't have to.
You know you're going to getpaid by me, yep, so you're not
like concerned on and you knowI'm gonna pay you if I'm calling
you, and then you get to runyour trucks at your retail rates
and still you know, make your.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Make your money.
See, this is something thatI've always dealt with in the
towing industry is I could neverreally wrap my head around
advertising for towing right, um, you can support your local
teams.
You can have well-cleanedtrucks and have your driving
billboards going down the roadso you're in the public's eye
that you service their area.
(27:53):
I've always think that'sprobably the best thing to do.
Keep your advertising budgetlocal, if you even want to call
it an advertising budget.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
A hundred percent Right.
I have a straight-upadvertising budget.
I have a marketing budget.
Yep Right.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
So most companies have facebook pages.
I've never really seen and yousee it in the towing groups a
little bit and like the big toetalk where guys will advertise
their towing company in there,which that doesn't make sense to
me because you're you'repreaching to other towers, but
anyways, it starts to make methink so okay, you have this
(28:28):
pop-up roadside service providerout of the States and they have
no idea what Canada even lookslike.
They just know that we'reAmerica's hat.
And when they type in towing inthis area, well, if you have
sponsored Google Ads running,you might be top of the list.
(28:49):
So that could be somethingwhere what happened to you?
They call you for a tow that'san hour away because the other
guy doesn't have their websiteset up to where it shows up on
google correctly, because a lotof people will just type in
towing near me if they need atow truck and they don't already
know who to deal with.
(29:10):
If they don't deal with aroadside, yeah, and then they'll
get like the big guys that popup who have the advertising
budget.
But then at the flip side, as aconsumer, if I see that I call
this towing company because Ityped into Google towing
companies near me.
They give me a price.
I'm assuming they're local, butsince it's a sponsored ad,
(29:32):
they're coming from three hoursaway and that's going to upset
me and it's probably also goingto reflect in the bill or the
wait time.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Right.
But you know what's weird islike, and that's right.
I can't see it being that,because I just Googled towing in
the city in which this call,this call was in question, and I
must have gotten, and I evenfiltered my search, thinking
maybe it's along those lines.
I filtered my search to 4.5stars and above.
I am about the 30th on the list.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, and it's yeah, like I'm about the 30th on and
you have your search historyrevolving around your company
anyway, of course I've.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I've.
You know it's a good time tomention, I have a 4.8 star on on
google with a 446 reviews, um,but yeah, I know like, so I you
know what I mean.
If anything, google would wouldpush towards my company and I'm
still so far down, so I don'tknow how they came out like.
I do not know, but this iswhere, again, benefits of things
(30:33):
like the tow show you networkwith these.
You network with companies inyour area or companies from
different parts of the province.
You get to know them, right.
I don't know how many times I'vegot a customer out of toronto
that'll call us and say, hey,hey, my guy's broken down here.
You guys able to take care ofthem.
It doesn't make sense for me tosend a truck down.
No problem, who am I billing?
(30:54):
Am I billing you?
Yeah, bill me directly.
Okay, no problem, right, I'lleven go out on a limb and any
towing company like that thatwe've.
You know that we've got somesort of contact with, like, if
you're just joe, blow out of theblue, uh, maybe not, but I'll
give them 30 days on the on thepayment.
You know, I mean like as ifthey had a charge account,
because it's we, we get theindustry, we do the same thing.
I kind of expect in return.
(31:15):
Um, but you know what I mean.
It's like hey, my guy's brokendown there.
I don't want him to get screwedby some company.
Can you go take care of them?
What's the rate?
Send me the bill and thenthey'll take that bill, add 15
percent, charge the customer,right and the customer.
It's good for them, because thecustomer knows every time if I
get broken down, I'm gonna calllike I'm not trying to steal his
customer.
I don't want his customer tocall me when he's in that area.
(31:37):
That is his customer, yeah,right.
So the best thing you can havefor your customer is when they
call you and it's not an areayou can service or it's not.
Whatever the case may be, itisn't just hey, call these guys,
it's no problem, I'll get thattaken care of for you.
Do the extra legwork.
That way, every time thecustomer has somebody broken
(31:59):
down, he's gonna go through you,right, because he's like hey, I
know that if I call a one, two,three towing, no matter where
I'm at, they'll get me sortedout.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, and you don't have to be a massive company
that can service six hours awayno Right, but you've built this
relationship with your customer.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
And so what if BCD Towing shows up in your ACB
Towing right, yeah, a lot oftimes they know that, like we
don't hide that from ourcustomers, that we're going to
sub it out.
We're going to sub it out andmake sure that you know it's a
company that you're not going toend up with a six hour travel
bill for nothing.
It'll be a company in that areaand it's got to be a company
that you trust and it's got tobe a company that you know what
(32:49):
I mean set up a tow for them andhave one of your.
You know, a company that youknow take care of it, only to
end up with a damage claim or toend up with a.
You know, like I mean, shithappens, no matter what.
Shit happens.
Right, I am, trust me, I'm theking of that.
Right now I have the month ofjuly.
I have had so many damageclaims for stupid things.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Is that why you want me to come to work with you?
So bad?
No, no, not at all.
Even though I've got like aFord story the other week.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I had a booster cable so surprisingly you ever run
into this.
No co, big fan of the no cobooster packs.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I still say there might be operator error on this
one.
I have yet to confirm it.
It is what it is.
Guy goes to tow of our boostervehicle, puts the no-co on.
He turns it on, puts it on butdoes not override it.
That's the statement.
But turns it on, puts it on,sits there for a second wires
(33:47):
start smoking, shuts it off.
Now the no-goes are built inwith like a polarity protector
right yeah so the simple thingwould be is that we overrode it
goes.
I swear and I and I know thisoperator and I trust this
operator.
He's a great operator.
He's like I didn't hit theoverride.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah, you got to hold the override.
For what?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
three seconds, three seconds and then you hear the
relay click and yeah, next timeput it on before turning it on,
just as a safety maybe, becausethen I put it on backwards
without turning it on.
Right, because they'll readvoltage without turning them on.
Yeah, and it gives me the alert.
You know the red light lightsup, nope, flip.
Yeah, and it gives me the alert.
You know the red light lightsup, nope, flip it around, it
(34:30):
gives me the voltage.
Okay, so the no-go, the system'sworking.
The problem was is that the carthat he did this on was a 64
Corvette, oh, and there's anengine wiring harness that is
melted, just the main power wiregoing through it, yeah, which
looks like you could just cut itout and put a new power, like
run a new wire, it's notcomplicated.
(34:51):
It's a simple system.
Being that old, it's a verysimple system.
It looks like it's wrapped inelectrical tape.
Apparently it's not electricaltape, that's actually a GM thing
.
The problem is this guy's caris pristine.
I mean, while we were towing itbecause we ended up towing it
to the garage of his choice toget it fixed and we're taking
care of it I look and there'sthree marks underneath on the
(35:12):
car like paint drips, and I gowhat is that?
Like cause everything else inthis thing looks like the paint
is beautiful.
Like even you know had to.
Like did the paint the oldschool way.
Like he has rebuilt this thing,but rebuilt this thing to spec
of its time.
Yep, I built this thing, butrebuilt this thing to spec of
its time.
Yep, you always see these threelines here and these two lines
(35:32):
here.
What is that?
He goes, those are the shimmarks.
He goes when they wouldassemble the cars in the plant,
the guy, before they put thebody on, would mark how many
shims.
Or when they mount the body,would mark how many shims it's
going to need on the front andthe back for the body.
They even went into detail tomaking sure those were on there.
Wow, so it wasn't a simple factof we'll just pull this wire
out and retake it back up, go tocrappy tire and grab a yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I mean, I've got.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I've got a lot of guys that do electrical in my
shop that are like whizzes andthe cleanest finishing work I've
ever seen.
But at the end of the day it'sthe customer's choice.
I've got another one right nowfor a guy who wore his keys
hanging on his key ring left thescratch.
It looks like in a 1982 oneowner ford f-150.
Oh, like just the, just likethings that you don't expect and
(36:24):
bullshit.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
That happens and again, that's why I know a lot
of people will tuck their shirtsin to look more professional.
A I don't do that because I gota bit of a gut and that just
accentuates the gut when you gotyour shirt tucked in.
But if you got a longer shirtthat also covers up your belt
buckle, which is a goodscratching hazard if you do have
to lean over a fender right orif you have your keys hanging
(36:47):
out right, it just gives youthat little bit more protection
it's, it's.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
It's not a terrible argument you can make.
I think that argument can bemade for, um, a work shirt on
tux, providing it doesn't looklike a dress on you because it's
so long, um.
But yeah, no it it's.
It's little things like the keyhanging and it's like man just
rubbed up against it while hewas reaching in to steer it,
while pulling it onto the bedwith his remote, like little,
(37:13):
and it's one of those.
It's such a faint scratch thatI couldn't have proved it was
there before.
Even with photos I couldn'thave proved it was there.
Yeah, you know the first photohe sent me.
I can't even see the thing, butyou can assure you it's a 1984.
So I think it was 84, 82, fordF one 50.
The guy is the original ownerof the thing but he's taken care
of it.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
He's got pride in it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, and I'm sure he washes this thing, him.
He's a great gentleman, it'snot something he's just looking
to come after us.
Yep, and those are the worstbecause, again, it's all right.
Well, you know, especially whenit's classic stuff like that
that people take pride in, it'snot all right, we'll bring it to
my shop, we'll get a paint.
No, no, it's all right.
(37:56):
Who do you deal with?
Well, I deal with One in town,of course.
No, no, no, not quite, but thatis true, it does happen.
Yep, right, and it's just allright.
Well, get it.
And you have to.
So many companies, I think,will fight to get away from that
stuff, which, hey, I'm nothappy to be paying out these
claims, but, any stretch of theimagination, they absolutely
burn my ass.
(38:16):
Mm-hmm.
When I look at the budget at theend of the year and I see the
damage claims and I go andespecially stuff where it's not
training, like the booster pack.
This guy that did it.
This wasn't a train thing, he'sbeen trained on this booster
pack.
He knows this thing Well.
It was, I don't know I, youknow on his.
I don't know I have an ideathat the override was on.
(38:37):
But I trust this operatorwholeheartedly.
He's never given me a reasonnot to, so I take his word for
it.
I go all right, it's a flukeaccident, but it's frustrating
because at one point, like Isaid, the key's off the side.
That's just to smarten up,that's just to hey, that's a
learning curve for you.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Put your keys in your pocket.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Put your keys in your pocket.
My keys are in my pocket.
If not, they're in my trucklike little things like that can
cost you my keys on a lanyard.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
So whenever I'm working I make sure that lanyard
isn't hanging out, because whenyou're working around these
things you don't want anythingthat can grab you and hold you
back right a lanyard it's easyto get caught on, especially
doorknobs coming in and out ofplaces.
I've had my lanyard get hookedin one of the actual handles and
my keys come flying out of mypocket and you're like shit.
(39:29):
It just looks unprofessional.
So shove that down in yourpocket.
Most of our work pants have thecargo pockets down on the thigh
.
Put them in there, because ifyou're kneeling you're not going
to be kneeling onto your keys.
Even if you have to lay down,you're going to be laying down
on your back or your side thecargo pants.
(39:49):
You might feel the key a littlebit or just leave it in the
truck right.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I have guys that are so bad for that they leave, like
they'll leave their wallet inthe truck, which I'm like no,
that's crazy to me.
But like I have, yeah, thepants, I have my wallet on my
right side because I've got the.
I've got my wallet right side,I got my smokes on the left side
and there's a little pocket onthe left side as well where I
keep my wireless earbuds.
And, like I've been upside downin ditches, I've never dropped
it, like I've never had themfall out my side pockets, but,
(40:21):
like these cargo pockets, I'venever lost something and and,
trust me, I've been in someweird upside down situations
where, you know, a lot of timesI take the stuff out if I'm
gonna be crazy, only because Idon't want to get wet.
Yeah, isn't because I'm worriedabout it falling out, I'm
worried about it getting wet.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I personally love breast pockets, so you just put
your hey breast pockets you hatethem, I love breast pockets
stuff all the time oh yeah, shitfalls out of them all the time,
even just been over to put yourdollies on.
But I just love it.
But the fact that I love breastpockets so much is the fact
that I leave my keys, my walletand my vape in the truck.
(41:00):
When I get out of the tow truckto do work, very rarely do I
even have my phone on me, unlessI'm dispatching at that time,
right, I keep my pockets empty.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
How are you documenting stuff?
How are you taking photos?
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (41:16):
all that, I would grab the device that's in the
truck.
I do the full corner pictures.
I'd put that back in the truck,right?
I use a lot of older androidequipment to where the battery
life isn't that great anyway, soit just always stays plugged in
take it out with a new onecomes out yeah, yeah, oh, you
got a new update.
Your battery is now 50 percentlower.
(41:37):
Um, take the four pictures, orhowever many pictures document
it, put that back in the truck,grab my gloves and then start
hooking up the vehicle.
Unless I am putting a customerin my truck to where they would
be able to grab my wallet is theonly time would I take my
wallet and I put it in my cargoshort or cargo pants pocket yeah
(41:58):
, 100.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
I've definitely had customers in a truck where I go
like, yeah, taking this out ofhere because I don't really
trust you like the phone.
They're not stupid because thephone is sitting up normally on
a dash mount or something yeah,and that's I noticed.
We're not leaving yeah, likewe're not leaving until we find
this phone, so like, but yourwallet I mean, yeah, you leave
in a set of console.
(42:19):
You you're hooking up, they go.
You may not notice it until yougo grab lunch later on that day
.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Or even just take money out of it, Because, as tow
truck operators or driverssorry now, because of the
Ontario laws we normally have alot of cash.
You might not miss $20 rightaway, you might not miss the $50
right away until you actuallylook.
I know you and myself, we knowpretty much how much cash we
have in our wallets at any giventime?
(42:45):
Yep, but when you're justgetting the truck, you're not
counting the bills every timeyou get in and out of your truck
.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
You just know what's there it's funny you say that
there were tow drivers nowbecause of the ontario law.
Yeah, um, it makes me think Ihad a fun.
I had a fun encounter the otherday, um, so I I responded to a
uh, a police call for a 14 daystunt drive suspension.
So upon arrival I knew theofficer.
Uh, she's been around for along time.
(43:12):
She's temperamental at bestsome days.
Okay.
So I got there and I bring hermy binder which has all my stuff
in it and my DL, my driver'slicense, and I go to her I say,
hey, would this be easier foryou?
I've been working on thissystem for our drivers that when
we respond exactly in thissituation that you would give,
(43:34):
if you give me the incidentnumber as well as the email,
which is they're all Ontario or,you know, police email, so
they're not the driver then likeit's quick, you go instant
number email driver clicks thetruck he's in and his name.
It sends them an email with thedl, the tow certificate, um,
all the truck, the vin, the cvor, the plate, all the information
(43:57):
that they would need.
And she goes nah, I'm oldschool, I'd rather have it paper
.
No problem, it's something I'mlooking at.
I'm kind of judging what thepolice feel about this before we
, you know, we fully integrateit.
She goes, so she goes to me.
She goes do you have your, yourtow driver certificate?
And I go, yeah.
(44:19):
So I pull it up and on my onedrive I show her to her and she
goes well, you, you know youneed to physically have it here,
like physically have a card,and I'm like I don't, I don't
think I do, and she's like, yeah, you need to physically have a
card.
She's like, obviously, I knowyou and everything else.
So like I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not gonna write you a
ticket for it by any means, butjust so you know.
(44:41):
Okay, whatever, hook up the car, get it all done.
She comes back to my binder.
She goes you're also missingyour vehicle storage certificate
.
So for the storage facility,it's not in the binder that the
operator for the company is thecvor.
All my other stuff is in there,but but the storage one is.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Oh my god doesn't that need to be at the office
where the storage facility is?
Speaker 1 (45:02):
A hundred percent.
That's what I'm under theimpression she's like.
No, I had a customer the otherday that you know we impounded,
was well-versed in the new tosee act and said that you know
and um and requested to see itto know where his vehicle was
being towed.
And I was can kind of see thepoint, sure.
(45:24):
So I get back to you know, Iget back, I, I do the impound,
everything else and, uh, goodnight.
Someone mentioned music.
Why don't you email to see ya,because they have an email.
So that's a great point.
So I write out an email and Igo.
I have a little bit ofconfusion and I want you know
some clarification is a digitalor an electronic copy of a tow
driver's certificate, towoperator's certificate and
vehicle storage certificateacceptable when requested by
(45:48):
police or customers?
The response was very clear andsimple that the tow operator
and tow driver's certificatesare completely acceptable in an
electronic format.
The vehicle storage has to be aphysical paper posted at the
location.
So, being the nice guy that Iam and to avoid that and keep
(46:11):
that as with your electronicdocuments.
I absolutely forwarded thatemail off to the officer and I
said hey, look, you know.
Going back to our conversationthis morning, you know that we
strive to make sure that we areon top of any regulation,
whether it be police, whether itbe mto.
We want to make sure that weare keeping in compliance.
Yep, like I, I'm not hidingthis, I'm not trying to cheat
(46:32):
the system.
You tell me how the rules work.
I'll work within the rules, butI thought you'd be interested
in the email.
I, I, I, I.
You know I reached out to themfor clarification.
Um, and, and this is theresponse that I've gotten I
attached it and I said like youknow, it's a learning curve for
all of us.
Um, I'm like, so, like I'd hopeyou know, like, if you can, let
(47:06):
me but, like you know, we madesure to do it in a professional
and polite way, and it's likehey it's okay, we're all
figuring this out.
This is new to everyone.
Yeah, you know you haven'tgotten adequate training on it.
I've had to go find my ownanswers.
You know what I mean.
Like I know, the policeofficers have not received
training on this.
No.
So it's kind of a tricky one,right, because they still are
(47:27):
those police officers still havethe power to call whoever they
want to call when they feel likeit, like there's limitations
that were put in.
They have the authority tomonitor.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
They have the authority to take it in pound
whatever on the roadside thatthey deem necessary, even if
it's not justified.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
And you can go and find that information directly
from the horse's mouth after thefact right yeah, so I've kept
the email, like I said, handyand yeah, you're right, I,
because I have a.
I have a photo saved of my towoperator, my vehicle storage and
my, my driver, and I've toldall my drivers go grab a photo
of it, save it an album on yourphone.
Don't leave it that it's onlinesomewhere, because if, if
(48:06):
you're in a dead spot and youcan't produce it, you could, you
could get hit with failure toproduce a tow driver certificate
yep, you see that a lot withthe insurance slips when
officers yeah they're online nowoh, the app needs to update.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Just give me a second .
Well, the cop's not going tosit there all day waiting for
your stupid app.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
No, you have to be able to produce it upon request
within a reasonable time.
Yep.
Right.
So, yeah, it's not.
Oh, follow me to a non-deadspot so I can get.
No, no, no, no, yeah, so I havemine to see a compliance in a
folder with my certificate.
I thought about putting all myemployees in because I have
(48:46):
access to all of them just thatway, like I have access to them
all through the one drive.
So, like, if I am you know whatI mean but like I want, like
each driver needs to have theirsoffline ready to go.
So, for companies that arelooking because we were one of
them we were looking to getlittle laminated cards because
they're also an odd dimension ifyou just print them off a
certificate.
So we're looking little solidcards like a dl that they would
keep right.
They can have information onthe back.
I'm still waiting for my price.
I still kind of like them, butyou don't need to.
(49:08):
You know you can.
For you guys out there, you canget away with with having it on
your phone.
You don't have to carry itbecause the piece of paper you
can laminate it's going to getall folded, wrinkled, everything
else.
Yeah, having it on your.
Here's my certificate.
You want me to send it to you?
Perfect, send me an email orsend me a text.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
You still have to have a driver ID in the truck,
don't you?
So why wouldn't you just putall that information on the back
side of the driver ID on?
Speaker 1 (49:31):
the plane?
Why do you need a driver ID inthe truck?
Speaker 2 (49:33):
For a lot of roadsides.
You need a little picture.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
You know, I don't have any of those I know, I
never had one either I did, I,did I did not.
I did back when we workedtogether.
I had one, I don't have onehere.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
I think that's the reason, because we put up such a
fuss when we work together.
Is they never asked for mypicture?
Speaker 1 (49:55):
again.
Yeah, when they started sendingyour picture in full name to
customers without telling you,and they're still doing that.
I bet they are, I bet they are.
Damn those roadsides, damnthose roadsides.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
So full name and picture.
Yeah, that's a slap.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Maybe bring it up to them at the if we get set up at
the provincial uh professionaltowing association Ontario
neighbors last year.
Exactly If we're neighbors withthem.
Again, maybe we will.
We will bring up the id.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I got my truck towed a couple months ago and I I
showed the driver that showed upand I was like this is all the
information I have on you and assoon as you click dr, I now
know where you roughly live,because that's where the map
starts from.
I'm not sure if you live thereand he was like no, that's my
boss's house, but I'm nevertaking the truck home ever again
.
If that's way it is is likeit's pretty indepth, like it
(50:39):
updates every like 10 seconds.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, it's kind of scary infringement on our rights
with an association with towingclubs.
So, um, anyways, that beingsaid, don't forget head over to
the website towinglifeca.
You'll find all the info forthe tow show, when we'll be
there, how to get your pre-orderdone for your t-shirt, um and
uh, maybe I hope we have thesame neighbors and we can have a
little more fun.
We're a little more establishedthis year and as our show gets
(51:05):
longer and, and you know, umlonger run out, I am less
worried about getting canceledfor saying something to them.
Um, so I've got a little calm,a little confidence, um, with
them.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
So and they gave away a lot of free stuff last year.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
So and we got a lot of free stuff from.
So, on behalf of myself and mywonderful co-host, mr toman g,
we cannot wait to see you at theshow.
Take care, see you next week,toodles.
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