August 20, 2024 • 54 mins
Ever wondered if straight line W's or "woobly dooblies" are superior? Join us as we dive headfirst into the quirks of handwriting in "The Great W Debate," where we humorously dissect our own writing habits and even rope in a friend for her hilarious take. We also give a warm welcome to both new and loyal listeners of the Towing Life Podcast, sharing the buzz around our approaching 150th episode milestone and the nocturnal challenges we face during our late-night recording marathons.
Stay plugged in as we guide you through the best ways to interact with us during our live shows on various platforms like our website, email, Facebook, and YouTube. While listener suggestions for a donation button are appreciated, we prefer sharing a beer with you at events. Plus, get ready for some light-hearted chatter about McDonald's new s'mores McFlurry and the mystery of marshmallow fluff. We then shift gears to discuss the new safety legislation in Massachusetts that mandates vulnerable user protection devices on state contractor vehicles, weighing the costs, feasibility, and broader impact on tow service providers.
Don't miss our account of a frustrating run-in with unresponsive reps and the amusing twist of a birthday celebration amid the chaos. We recount the dramatic three-truck collision on the 401, emphasizing the critical nature of effective communication and teamwork in resolving major highway recoveries. As we wrap up, mark your calendars for our upcoming live show on August 25th, packed with games, giveaways, and interactive fun. Join us at 6 PM Eastern on YouTube and Facebook for a session you won't want to miss!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You want to make sure you can read.
I know how to read some letters.
None of the squiggly ones,though they're tough.
The straight lines not so bad.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm pretty good with the straight ones yeah, yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You start throwing those W's and U's at you and Z's
, and you're just Well, the W'sare still straight lines.
That one depends.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
What does it depend on?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
If you do the straight line W's or the woobly
dooblies.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
You don't do woobly dooblies, it's straight lines.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
No, capital is straight lines.
Little one is woobly dooblies.
No, it's just a little.
You've never made a W withround bottoms.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
No, it's always pointed you owe.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Hmm, the great debate of 2024.
If you do your W's with wooblybooblies or straight lines, If
you type it into the keyboard,it's straight lines.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
There is no woobly booblies.
We've made up a word.
There is no woobly dooblies onthe W's.
Hey everyone, I'm Brad fromCalgary.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
This is Sean from Cambridge, Ontario.
I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Terry from Cornwall Ontario.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Hey, this is Larry from Pitt Meadows, british
Columbia, and you're listeningto the Towing Life Podcast.
Metals, british columbia, andyou're listening to the towing
life podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Let's solve this debate who the fuck are you
calling?
She's not gonna answer shit.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Hello, hey, I got a question.
Okay, when you draw your w's,are they straight lines or with
woobly dooblies at the bottom ofthem?
Like they're rounded yes, withwoobly dooblies.
They're also known as rounded.
(02:05):
Yes, you don't draw W's withstraight lines, right?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I mean, I don't, some people do.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You're taught to do it that way.
You're taught to do it straightline or woobly booblies
Straight.
Oh then why do we do wooblydooblies?
Because people are accustomedto the way that they write, Just
like Y's are not straight somepeople do a loop at the bottom
yeah, those people are way toofloofy for my likings.
(02:32):
Well, you're married to one, soyou're the perfect amount of
floofy for my likings.
Thanks for the sound clip.
Oh, awesome, love you bye.
You walked right into that one,thanks for the sound clip.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh, awesome, love you .
Bye, bye, you walked right intothat one bud.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, I should have known better.
I should know how she does herwhys.
What am I thinking?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Welcome to the Towing Life podcast, where the ditches
are deep, the trucks are loaded, but the drivers are not.
I'm your host, Tome Angie, and,as usual, I'm joined by my
co-host, friend and formerco-worker, the man with very
strong opinions, Mr Plain Guy.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
What is going on?
G.
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oh, we go from recording early in the morning
to late at night, so I'm sleepythis time, and not for the
reason that I just woke up.
Late at night, it's 8, it's 9o'clock.
Yeah, I'm normally in bed atthis time.
I'm like an old man, I don'tmake it past Jeopardy.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
What is it that you have going on right now that has
got you not being able to sleepin?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I just always have been in the routine of getting
up at 5 am, regardless of what Igot going on.
Today was 6 am, but still.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
It was Sunday, he slept in a bit.
Yeah, I'm yawning, as we'reactually, as you're doing that
intro, so I guess I'm no better.
We're going to be feeding offeach other this entire time,
just yawning back and forth, andit's a shame because we have
such great things to go over intoday's show.
Yeah, if you're looking at myeyes on youtube.
(04:07):
I'm not high, I'm just tiredbecause they are slits right now
.
Yeah, so, um, like you said,welcome to another episode of
the tone life podcast, episode149.
Um, as you know, that meansthat, uh, next sunday, or,
depending when you're watchingthis sunday, uh, august 25th, at
6 pm Eastern, we will be doingour live episode, episode 150,
(04:29):
celebrating three yearsproviding countless hours of
entertainment Well, about 150hours of entertainment to each
and every one of you that listento the show week in, week out.
So we do appreciate you comingout.
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(04:54):
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(05:15):
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(05:37):
guess four or five time zones wehave in this country oh and we
were talking about the uhtipping last, uh last episode
and one of our listeners saidyou should set up like a
donation button.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But you can donate to us on the stream.
I'm pretty sure over on youtubeyou can give us like a super
thanks or whatever it's calledover there.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I didn't address that because I got the.
I got the same message sent tome.
I think pretty sure he copypasted the message between us,
um, because I don't think it wasto the page.
But anyways, um, we alwaysappreciate them, regardless if
you have us personally on socialmedia or not.
Um, and I thought about that.
I said you know what?
It is something that we wouldprobably set up, and I'll tell
you this will be the only timethat we'll talk about setting it
(06:20):
up, because the reason is isthat I do not want to promote
that like I have no desire aspart of our intro and part of
our regularly.
You know stuff that we make sureto get out to our listeners,
want to promote.
And don't forget, you can tipus over at.
No, they're here for theentertainment.
If you want to leave a tip, ifyou want to donate, I'm sure you
(06:41):
can find a way to do it.
It doesn't necessarily have tobe through a tip button.
You can reach out.
I'm sure you can find a way todo it.
It doesn't necessarily have tobe through a tip button.
You can reach out to us.
Hey, I love you guys, I love g.
I'm gonna send them fivedollars.
Gee, how do I send you fivedollars?
Right like we're not looking toum panhandle or cater to that
kind of um stuff.
So, yes, there may be a buttonthat gets put into the show,
(07:03):
into future episodes, but it'llbe the only time you'll ever
hear me promote it, because I donot do this show for the money.
If I did, I would not no longerbe doing this show.
But yes, you know what?
Hey, come to the Ontario toeshow coming up in September.
Buy us a beer.
There's the tip button.
You don't even need a tipbutton, right?
(07:24):
Buy g some marshmallows so hecan roast them by the fire in
his trailer that he's hauling.
Send me some peanut butterjelly sandwiches.
So in case this, the the foodtruck food is crap at the tow
show.
I love peanut butter and jellysandwiches.
Just don't make it withstrawberry, that's's junk.
Mcdonald's has a new s'moreMcFlurry.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, s'mores McFlurry.
It's actually pretty good.
It's got a bit of hot fudge init and a lot of little.
It kind of tastes like themarshmallows out of Lucky Charms
.
Okay, mixed in with it withsome crunchy graham crackers,
it's actually pretty good.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I'm surprised they didn't do like I don't know if
we have that in canada or ifit's just.
Like a americans, we eateverything that like marshmallow
spread like it's likemarshmallow in a jar.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
No, I've never even heard of you've never heard of
this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
No, oh, I haven't tried it and anyone who watching
the show who has tried it?
Um, you have to tell us if it'sactually good.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Look up fluff marsh or marshmallow fluff I will when
my internet stops shitting thebed okay, that is fair.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
How about I'll do you one better.
I'll present a screen that Ihave it on.
Um chrome tab.
Marshmallow in a jar.
So this is marshmallow in a jar.
It's marshmallow fluff.
Do you see my screen?
I don't know if you canactually see my screen.
Oh, you can't actually see myscreen.
No, do we have to?
(08:54):
How do we?
Oh, here we go.
I did this tapes.
There we go ah, this ismarshmallow in a jar um um
nutritional facts welcome to thetoying life podcast everyone no
, you, you've got me for 100grams.
Oh, that's just marshmallow.
I want marshmallow fluff.
(09:15):
There we go.
Marshmallow fluff.
Nutritional facts twotablespoons is wow, this is a
very good.
It really shows nothing.
Six grams of sugar.
It's 12 grams.
It's six grams of sugar.
Is that a lot?
It's half.
(09:36):
Half of it is sugar.
Oh yeah, like it's half yeahsugar includes six grams of
added sugars.
You don't say um, yes I guessthat is a lot I'm surprised they
didn't use that stuff as the uh, like that kind of stuff
(09:57):
instead, like the little hardmarshmallows those little hard
marshmallows that came in luckycharm sucked.
I said what I they're prettygood.
You thought they were prettygood.
Back when I was like 10, eatingLucky Charms, when was the last
time you had a bowl of LuckyCharms.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Oh, it's probably been over a decade now.
At this point I used thoseReese's Puffs were the shit back
in the day.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yo, I would still kill a bowl of those if we were
ever going to eat those.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
It makes your milk turn chocolatey and you
delicious.
Now we get all these anti-funcereals for adults Make your
teeth rot out of your mouth, butit's worth it.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's worth it.
Okay, enough of the food.
You know what we do get offpace quite regularly on this
show, but 90 of the time that weget off pace is food yeah and I
think people in our industryand other operators that are
listening can relate to the foodside of things.
Listen, we're in our trucks,we're on the road constantly.
(11:00):
Right, there's two things thatwe're good at towing cars and
eating food and some of us areonly good at one of those things
.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Are we turning the towing world podcast into a food
eating podcast, or are we justdoing a separate branch?
We don't have enough time fortwo podcasts, so one of them is
going to have to stay.
One of them is going to have togo.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Well, we'll let the fans decide.
But yeah, like I said, we'regood at two things driving tow
trucks and eating food, and I'vemet a lot of operators that are
only good at one of those two,so I wasn't pointing you out
specifically for the record.
So, no, we did have a greatepisode to get into.
(11:38):
We will start off.
Actually, g, you had somethingthat you wanted to share right
away with on behalf of who again?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, the names at the top of the screenshot there
the all ms msp tow providers.
It's from statewide towingassociation inc.
Of massachusetts.
Yes, I can't actually say thatstate's name without doing the
slander term I had no idea therewas a slander term, but okay
yeah, massachusettsmassachusetts.
(12:10):
Okay so I'm gonna have to makethis full screen so I can
actually read it, because I gotyou a screenshot in 20.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
In 2022, the massachusetts legislator
legislation less legislatorpassed a law to require all
state contractors' vehicles tobe equipped with vulnerable user
protection devices effectiveJanuary 1, 2025.
The Registry of Motor Vehicleswas tasked with drafting
regulation as to the type ofequipment required and which
(12:37):
vehicle would be required toinstall this equipment.
The RMV did not release theproposed regulation until mid
2024.
Oh, you sound like ourgovernment?
Yeah.
At which time, STA filedcomments regarding the lack of
exemption for towing equipmentand the unfeasibility of
installing this equipment ontowing equipment.
(12:58):
Sta and our lobbyists have alsoreached out to legislators,
state agencies and otherassociations whose members will
be affected by these regulations.
To date, there have been nochanges to the proposed
regulations.
Sta is still activelyadvocating for an exemption for
towing equipment.
This means that unless theproposed regulations are amended
(13:20):
, all MSP tow service providerswill be required to install the
required equipment on all theirvehicles by january 1st 2025.
The estimated cost to installthe required equipment on a
towing vehicle is six thousandto eight thousand dollars per
vehicle.
Required equipment is asfollows backup cameras.
What's a crossover mirror?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
so those are the front mirrors on the vehicle
that will show you in front ofthe bumper.
It's the same mirrors that areon like school buses.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Oh okay, the hood bump, the hood mirrors.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
No, not hood mirrors.
Those are normally convexmirrors that show the sides of
your vehicles.
These are to protrude out fromthe hood like three feet and
show you your whole front bumper.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Oh, to make sure you're not running over small
children, okay, yeah, convexmirrors which would be your hood
mirrors for the most part, ormost, trucks have a convex also
built into the um, like toemirrors, lateral side guards
with a maximum ground clearanceof 13.8 inches.
Yeah, like the bumper cars onthe wheels like the bumper
covers, I'm assuming so.
(14:26):
In addition, aftermarketmodifications or accessories
such as bug deflectors, chromevisors and bull bars are
prohibited and must be removed.
In order to accurately identifythe scope of the impact of the
number of msp towing companieswho will not be able to meet the
new requirements, sta is askingall msp towing service
providers to answer atwo-question survey.
The survey is anonymous and weask that there only be one
(14:47):
response per company.
So so the state is implementingnew requirements on state
regulated vehicles yep and thetowing and the tow trucks are
falling within thatclassification by the sounds of
it.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
So for the uh lateral side guards.
What I'm pulling up is, youknow, those uh like skid rails
on the side of trucks to coverup any blank space no, so you
know how some of the dry boxvans have those like cardboard
(15:23):
pieces of shit that hang downlow for aerodynamics.
Yeah making sure can getunderneath of it the same right.
So what this is actually doing?
I've pulled up uh umass amherstcollege of engineering.
They put out a post about this.
(15:43):
What is vulnerable road users?
Massachusetts now definesvulnerable user on the roads to
include people walking andbiking, roadside workers, people
using wheelchairs, scooters,skateboards, roller skates and
other micro mobility devices,horse-drawn carriages and farm
equipment devices.
(16:08):
Horse-drawn carriages and farmequipment.
Um, so it also includes safepassing for motorists.
Um, you need to provide a safepassing distance of at least
four feet when passingvulnerable road users.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, yeah, so anytime we have that, it's three
feet I think in ontario I couldbe wrong um rear red light
requirement for bicyclists forriding at night which is good.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Safer speed limits which just drops speed limits
down from 30 miles per hour to25 miles per hour, which kind of
sucks.
Crash reporting truck safetydevices, which is what we're
talking about.
Backup cameras this requirementwill do some of the tragic
right hook fatalities we've seenin recent years Right.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
No, tragic right hook fatalities we've seen in recent
years.
Right now it'll register.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
The register shall also prohibit aftermarket
accessories that obstruct,obstruct visibility or endanger
vulnerable users.
So does your boom in your backwindow that obstructs that
visibility actually count?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
no, but that's why they're going after the bug
deflectors, chrome visors andthe bowl bars.
The bowl bars are probably more, because they have an option of
sticking out and hookingsomebody yeah um, that's walking
by, I guess, or that you canhook on a as you're making a
corner.
I mean, it's a little excessive.
Yeah, like backup cameras forthe amount of times that we back
(17:26):
up and for safety and with mostvehicles coming equipped with
them, non-tow truck vehicles,meaning, you know, this is, I'm
sure, for, like state, umhighway pickup trucks, um crash
trucks, that kind of stuff,right, utility trucks and all
that it makes sense for towing,though tell me why it doesn't,
(17:50):
tell me why it doesn't makesense to to have a mandatory
backup camera for safety withthe amount of times that you're
backing around and and intoplace.
It's not, you know, thecrossover mirrors.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I, I can't, I, I understand it they're ugly as
fuck and I don't know 100 thecost that comes with this is is
crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Um, I can see why they're um, you know why they're
upset about it, but I know thecrossover mirrors on showing on
a bus are literally those hoodmirrors.
They're just wider angled hoodmirrors, but a hundred percent
like.
Obviously there's been anincrease in accidents in
(18:30):
Massachusetts or you know,vulnerable people struck and
killed.
I mean, we have it all the time.
Ontario too, I guess there'snot a bad enough problem yet
that they want to to bring inthat kind of stuff.
But keep fighting.
This is why your associationsare important.
Right, you're seeing this inmoments right now.
We just currently went thatkind of stuff.
But keep fighting.
This is why your associationsare important.
Right, you're seeing this inmoments right now.
We just currently went, like wejust recently went through it
um, down here in ontario.
(18:51):
Because you need a unifiedvoice when it comes to those um,
to those issues.
You need somebody who isspeaking on your behalf, not
three different people orindependent toe operators that
are pushing their mouth offwhere they really shouldn't be
even if it's not shooting yourmouth off, right?
one person having a an objectionto something and then turning
(19:13):
out that 5, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50,100, 200, 500, 000 have the same
problem or objection.
But if only one person writes aletter and complains about it,
nothing's going to happen.
If your association, whichspeaks for a large volume of
your towers, I hope willhopefully in massachusetts says
something, it might carry alittle bit of weight.
(19:35):
Right, the us associations areno joke, right, ontario has had
a bit of a gong show when it'scome to associations over recent
times, but the american oneswhat I heard are fairly strong
and fairly unified.
So if there's anyone that canfight it, so if you're down in
massachusetts and I and I knowwe do have listeners down there
be sure to check out yourassociation, be sure to support
(19:55):
them and be sure to get thatunified voice across to you know
, there is items on here that Ithink should be mandatory or
could be mandatory.
I think having all of them isgetting a little uh, is a little
ridiculous.
But you can make some changeswith your government If you can.
You know, get to the rightpeople and and work together.
That's something that we'rehoping for.
What's that?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I really don't like the fact that they're trying to
get rid of bush guards to likeprotect your investment from
like deer and stuff Right.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Protect your investment from like deer and
stuff.
Let's be honest, you put a bushbar almost call it something
else but you put a bush bar inany of your pickup trucks to
save you from an animal.
No, I'm not saying that.
That's not what they can beused for.
The problem is 95% of themaren't.
I got transports going down theroad with rabbit bumpers but
(20:47):
the first thing they hit biggerthan a rabbit is gonna write
this bar off the front of it andnot save a goddamn thing on the
truck.
So don't tell me it's about.
You know they're, unfortunately.
You're like the person thatgets a that you know has a
service dog that isn't actuallya service dog, but says it could
be a service dog and I'mallowed it.
That's the same argument.
Get that shit out of here.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
No, I'm just the person that drives around with
my trailer, hitch in all thetime.
In case someone so, do I so doI?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
only because when we bought the truck we didn't get
the lock for the pin lock, thekey for the pin lock, and I
haven't have to take the edgeout there and I've definitely
banged my shit off it multipletimes.
But no legislation change is ais a pain in the ass, and
especially when the people arewriting the legislation aren't
(21:35):
living the day to day of thecompanies in which they're
enforcing it on.
Right, we're, we're gonna,we're gonna get into that a
little bit.
We're, we're going to get intothat a little bit.
We're running into thatsituation.
Right now I am in a situationwhere I cannot hire a new
employee.
Not that I cannot hire a newemployee, I can hire whoever I
want.
The problem is is I've reachedout with this new requirement
(21:59):
that we have for mandatorytraining, and I've reached out
and I've written a letter to thegovernment and I have shared it
so to see who else is in thesame boat as I am, where the
government requires that beforean operator can drive a tow
truck in the province, he mustcomplete mandatory training.
Problem I have the mandatorytraining, the hands-on portion.
(22:20):
The next available course that Ihad currently available was
probably because they haven'teven confirmed it for four weeks
away yeah, over four weeks away.
They can't tell me where.
So which means, if I were tohire a guy today, I've got four
weeks before he can drive a towtruck, before I can fully
evaluate his capabilities as anoperator, not even saying that
(22:42):
he can drive, you know, in aclosed circuit, so in our yard,
but he cannot drive a tow truckon the road by himself, or with
somebody for that matter.
He's not allowed to drive untilhe he completes his basic
requirement.
It's become unrealistic.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Hey, bob, you want a job?
Yeah, sure, I'd love a job.
All right, perfect.
Let me put you down in aclassroom.
You'll do six hours worth ofclassroom training there and
then I'll see you in four to sixweeks.
You're not getting paid forthat, by the way, because I
can't afford that and you're notmaking me money.
In four to six weeks, I'm goingto send you to this training
course that cost me a bunch ofmoney, and then we can even see
(23:20):
if you're cut out for this or ifyou even like it.
Um, please don't find anotherjob in that four to six weeks,
because you need to make moneyand I get that, but I would like
you to work for me, bob yep,yep, that's 100 the spot I'm in.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I don't even know what I'm gonna go tell this guy
he interviewed.
Well, I think you make a greatcandidate, and so I reached out
to find when the next availabletraining was, and I got told
over four weeks away.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So now, what do I do?
Hey, keep working where you'reworking.
I promise I will hire you.
I'm not sure to work out, youknow.
And no, that's not how we'redoing it.
They're paying the trainingcourse.
How we're doing it they'repaying the training course.
We'll pay it up front and theycan, uh, and they can pay us
back in installments, becauseI'm not.
I'm not paying for bob to gofor a thousand dollar course and
(24:07):
then you know, get it and hangaround for a week and then screw
off.
Can't do that, no.
So yeah, I'm absolutely handtied on being able to bring in
new workers.
Now, the unintended side effectthat came with that that no one
really thought about, you thinkthat changes your mind when
you're coming to fire anoperator?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Now that could be good or bad.
Right, it could help, maybehelp, you know, it could stop
some people from just absolutelytaking advantage of their
operators.
But whenever you have asituation where you absolutely
are on the verge that you go.
I've got to let this person go,but, holy god, am I going to be
short because I can't hire areplacement.
Like the towing industry wasalready very hard to hire for,
(24:53):
we've just made it 100 timesharder yeah we've absolutely
made it 100 times harder to beable to and I'm not just talking
about quality candidates anycandidates the price point for
the training.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Okay, we can get over that, we can work on that, we
can figure out ways to, like yousaid, competition will come
into the industry.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Price will take care of itself.
Yeah, but the availability,because only two companies right
now are offering this trainingcurrently at the time of writing
my letter and, as far as I'maware, um there's only like
currently there's only twoproviders, that is rec master
and that is uh caa south centralontario yeah those are the two
(25:38):
that are available.
I'm going to go check theirwebsite as we speak, and no,
there are still only twoavailable.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So my understanding, CAA South Central Ontario and I
have not confirmed this are onlyoffering that training to CAA
providers, which I would believe.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I would believe that.
Now here's the worst part.
I called a company that I knowthat works up in that area and I
said, hey, what's the numberfor your rep?
Because I'd like to see about.
Maybe maybe I'm a, you know, ifwe're a provider in a different
region, can I send my.
It might be a farther distance,but if they say, hey, I got one
(26:16):
next week or the week after,maybe I could get a guy up there
, maybe it's worth it to me.
So called her up, left themessage.
They haven't even returned mycall, like four or five days ago
, not like business days yeahI'm like, okay, well, because
again you're calling from apretty reputable company as well
(26:39):
yeah, yeah, but they also knowwhere I'm from, the area I'm
from, and probably that's not myproblem.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Like you know, I'm not sure they would.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
So I don't know what your rep about it.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
My rep doesn't have a cell phone apparently anymore,
and the only way to get a holdof them is by email, which I
have sent off an email and havestill not received a response.
Oh, an email and have still notreceived a response.
Oh wonderful so that's.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
That's nice.
It's been a.
It's been an interesting week.
Can?
Can we talk about the elephantin the room briefly, what's that
?
If you're an audio listener,thank you, um, but if you're a
video listener, you have seenplain guy sit with a weird
looking stupid plastic fedorahat on his head that says happy
birthday on it my wife made mewear it.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yes, at the time of recording it is my birthday, so
g is going to grace us all rightnow by singing me happy
birthday on the show.
Go ahead, g, take it away.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Happy birthday to you .
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, happy birthday,happy birthday to you.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Do you not know how to sing happy birthday?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I think that's just how you sing it, is it not?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
No, it's normally happy birthday.
Uh, you know person's name.
Happy birthday to you at theend, but yes, okay how old am I?
That has yet to be determined.
Mentally I'm still about seven,um.
Physically I'm about 95, uh,but trips around the sun, I am
35.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
35.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So not getting any younger.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Getting closer to that 40 age, aren't you?
How's your hair holding?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
up Not very well.
No, it's thin.
It's thin up there.
No grays, though I've been verylucky with no grays.
Um, considering everything I'duh, I'm surprised there isn't
more of that.
So, yes, it is, you can thankjust for men for that.
No, I don't.
I don't dye my beard.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I've never dyed my beard.
I promise you.
I'd tell you if I do it, itwould be the same hair or color.
Color is my hair instead ofthis weird red beard that I have
.
Yeah, um, yes, that is off topof hell, but yes, my wife bought
me this hat and um made surethat I had to wear it today
while recording the podcast,since we're recording right on
my birthday.
Um.
So thank you in advance for allthe well wishes and anyone who
(29:13):
did take the time to wish me abirthday today.
It was great till man g didn't,but um it did oh did you yeah,
oh yeah, I started with happybirthday.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
When are we recording ?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
it was the other day when I sent you a message and
we're going to get into thiswreck, um, this doozy of a wreck
that we're going to talk abouttoday.
Um, I was just sending him amessage to say, before you ask
me when we're recording, and Iwas sending a message to him
when recording yeah, I've beenon this since 1 am and right as
(29:47):
I send it I look and you wouldjust send me a message when are
we recording?
Yeah, and then his response wasoh, so tomorrow.
Then so yes, we?
Um.
I've never really shared videosor photos of wrecks, mainly
because, as most companies willtell you, it's private right.
There's all the time there'sinjuries and there's company
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names involved and everythingelse.
This wreck was a little bitdifferent.
It was, it was, pretty worthyof a mention all over the
internet, like everywhere Ilooked, being in the town that
I'm in.
This was a major event.
Social media had dash camfootage of the wreck which we
will show on the show.
Like six hours after ithappened, the first videos of
(30:34):
dash cam footage was going up.
I seen the dash cam footage onsite.
I had seen it with a drivergiving it.
I made sure it was none of myguys that leaked it.
Um, I don't think any of themhave it.
I don't know who did leak thisfootage, but we had a massive
three tractor trailer uhcollision that happened recently
on the 401 in our area.
So, to lay the the groundworkfor it, a tractor trailer was
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traveling eastbound.
For unknown reasons still.
He crossed the center medianand almost went head on and
ended up hitting another tractortrailer, which then created a
fiery mess, and a third tractortrailer following behind, which
is which we have the dash camfootage for, drove through said
(31:23):
fireball and the trailer.
So two trucks were headingwestbound, one heading eastbound
.
Give you an idea of the dash camfootage?
We'll play it now.
The dash cam footage is fromthe truck that was the third
truck in traveling westbound.
There's nothing gory about thisand I'm happy to report there
was no major injuries at all,which is unreal.
(31:45):
So we'll play the video.
So we'll see the truck chairthat's heading west.
Pretty heavy traffic Boom,fireball, boom into the fireball
.
Like that is fire.
Guys wanted to see that on onsite at the wreck and I I told
them like that's like afireman's wet dream, is driving
(32:09):
into a fireball collisiondetected.
A very heavy incident.
We actually did have videofootage as well that we found
from the scene right after ithappened.
Wow, yeah, actually did havevideo footage as well that we
found from the scene right afterit happened.
Wow, yeah.
So these these photos are takenfrom the eastbound lanes.
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That is the trailer that gotdriven through that truck that
you see upright in thebackground.
That is the dash cam a lot ofemergency personnel on scene.
That's a mess that is nothingcompared to.
Oh, I'd sent you some of theother photos and we will share
them, um, ones that we could,making sure not to identify any
(32:54):
companies or anyone involved.
Um, but that is so.
That is facing westbound.
So that is the truck thatcrossed the median that you're
looking at, burnt right down,burnt right down.
You can see the upright trailerover on the right, the, the one
that's standing on with itslights up.
That's a service road, a bypassroad, um, so the one's up
standing and there's a secondone in there, um, this photo on
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the left is that same truck thatyou just seen.
That was burnt to the ground.
That was his load and histrailer ripped open.
Produce, yeah, he was.
So the one that crossed thehighway was carrying kiwis.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Oh nice.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Lemons.
I don't know if there's anylimes, but kiwis and lemons for
sure.
The other gentleman here withhis trailer ripped open he was
the one that originally got hit.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
He was hauling lettuce, onions, veggies,
produce, right, so we had avegetable.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, it's just a caesar salad or a vegetable
garden salad all over thehighway yeah, yeah, exactly, and
I have never um going back tothe first photo and it really
doesn't do it justice.
When I first showed up on sceneand I was walking down this
highway, there was like littlepiles of Like piles of little
fires everywhere, like it lookedlike a war zone.
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Like you know, obviously, firewere focusing their efforts On
these trucks and these trailers.
How nobody died Is still Amystery.
How nobody had major injuries,like the one guy had a couple of
cut fingers, I don't know ifanyone left in ambulance like
(34:28):
that minor of injuries, wow yeah, so we predicted about the
eight to 12 hour closure Once wegot started, once we got the
okay to do the work and getstarted.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
How many vehicles were you here to clean up?
All three, oh well closure.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Once we got started, once we got the okay to do the
work and get started how manyvehicles were you here to clean
up All three, oh, wow, all threevehicles.
All three vehicles and theircargos.
Now, what a lot of people don'tunderstand jobs like this.
I'm not saying they're simple.
There's a little tricky.
Load that tractor onto atrailer it's rotator work for
sure.
Lift it up, chain it best youcan put it down on a trailer.
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Luckily we were like kilometersaway from our shop, like a
kilometer or two oh nice so itdoes help with the
transportation of equipment,also, of getting you know
reaction time to it and gettingequipment on site and starting
the process.
Um, we had we had it clearedfrom the time we got the call um
and where our equipmentactually started working because
there was traffic we had tomove through.
(35:26):
We had to clear a path fortraffic.
There was, you know, thistrailer you see here on the left
.
We had the fire department hadus opening it up so they could
hit hot spots within the trailer.
Right, so once we couldactually get to work on recovery
work it was, uh, about seven oreight hours the highway was
closed.
Well, most of this stuff,though, is is just, it's like
(35:46):
it's destroyed.
Every piece of equipment,including that trailer that is
upright over there, um, isdestroyed.
Yeah, um, the that one is theonly one that the cargo is good,
but the trailer, the wholereefer there's a reefer on the
front the whole front of thetrailer is torched.
Yeah, so you're pretty muchdoing a salvage job at this
point.
Right, you've got excavatorsdoing work with, um, you know,
(36:08):
lugger boxes and you're justloading up, you know burnt
produce and all that.
You're just cleaning up themess.
Yeah right, very little thatare going on our flat decks and
floats, a lot of the reeferunits, the back doors, the stuff
you can't break up and cut upand throw in lugger bins, but
still a wild cleanup.
I should have actually sharedphotos of the highway afterwards
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because you wouldn't even tell.
Well, you'd have no idea we'rethere.
The ironic part, the funniestpart of this whole recovery was
while this was still going on,before the job had been decided,
we were on scene and we get areport.
So the only way because thehighway was backed up and closed
each way, the only way for thefire department to get off um
(36:50):
was to head um eastbound in theeastbound lanes.
Get off, fill their waterpumper, get back on westbound in
the eastbound lanes, get off,fill their water pumper, get
back on westbound in theeastbound lanes because the
highway was closed.
Well, a truck driver who wasgoing westbound and was going to
be completely blocked for whathe thought a couple hours,
decided he didn't want to waitanymore.
He decided to pull a U-turn inthe emergency U-turn with his
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53-foot trailer.
Now, this is a very wide u-turn.
He missed.
He got his trailer tires intothe center median, which the way
it was leaning, was takingweight off of his drives and
therefore he was stuck, yeah,now blocking the only way the
fire department can come in andout of this scene.
(37:35):
So we get on scene with that, Iget there before the cops to
see if it's something you know,and we'll get a truck mobile and
we'll get this cleared.
Obviously, this is, you know,kind of the urgency at this
point.
These trucks aren't goinganywhere, but this guy is
blocking fire.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, first thing he says to me when I pull up, goes.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I'm sorry, I go.
You don't have to be sorry tome, but the two guys that are
the two extra units that arecoming with flashing red and
blue lights, you might want toapologize to them.
Yeah, they're the ones that aregoing to have probably a
fistful of tickets for you.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Well, it gets better, this driver.
So we've got to.
Before I get into that, we'vegot a truck on its way.
One of our rotators is going tolift the trailer, put it back
onto the road.
It's a quick, easy job.
Yep, our driver.
Uh, this driver.
When the cops get there, theystart talking to him, they run
his information.
Cop comes back to me and hegoes.
(38:28):
I'm just waiting forconfirmation.
Sure he's suspended oh nice sowe wait and sure enough, he
comes back.
He is suspended um for for dui,the previous dui nice, which
means he is ineligible to bedriving which carries a 45 day
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impound on the tractor.
The trailer can be released atany time yeah so if you're gonna
be dumb, be good at it.
If you're gonna be dumb, yougotta be tough yeah, so the fact
that he couldn't make thisu-turn is ridiculous.
Yeah, it's the widest one inthis side of toronto and so he
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misses it, gets stuck, which isan invitation for police.
You're on a 400 highway and youjust took a U-turn and got
stuck.
This is an invitation forpolice to come see you.
Like that, that is better thana Christmas card.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
They are a hundred percent going to come see you as
soon as you do that and have asuspended license Like I would
have ran like at that point youmight as well just got out of
your truck and been like youknow what, see ya.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I mean like if you had a suspended license,
wouldn't you have a thought inyour mind is like maybe I
shouldn't do dumb things anddraw attention to myself If I
have a suspension Right, youknow right, that would.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
that would be one of the first few thoughts that
would come to your mind.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Like if, if you let your insurance lapse and you're
like, fuck, I don't haveinsurance, maybe I should, you
know, not do 120 in an 80.
Maybe I should be like a littlebit more sensible to like you
know read the report.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Especially in our area there's huge, because of
our corridor and because we'rewe're close to us borders
smuggling right, whether it betobacco, whether it be whatever.
And these guys will get caughtwith, you know, truckloads full
of unmarked tobacco or whateverit is they're bringing and why
they get pulled over Cause theywere doing 140 on the highway.
(40:35):
If I've got a trunk full ofhashish.
I'm doing five over, ten overmaybe.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Even twenty.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
You're non-conspicuous.
Drive like you would if youdidn't have a trunk full of
hashish.
These guys will do a mockchicken down the highway and
then go oh, cops are out to getme.
So I got a.
I didn't include it on on theslides, but I got a photo of
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this truck driver being walkedto the cop car in handcuffs,
which is pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
He was released later on, a couple hours later um so
you had to send one of yourheavies to impound this truck
trailer now we drove it okay wewith everything else going on
with the fire stuff yeah like.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
So we used our rotator to pull it out of the
median.
I told the cop I'm like, look,with everything going on, the
equipment and all that, can Ijust like drive this thing back
to our yard?
I didn't really care, like thethe vehicle's impounded, it's
going into our care and control.
Yeah, um, it's like a fivekilometer ride yeah, so we left
our rotator on the side of thehighway on the other side
because the side might open bythe time we got back and yeah,
(41:41):
just did the drive and broughtit back and I'll reflect that on
the bill, like I'm not going tobe.
Like hey, I towed your truckand I took it.
Like you know what I mean, comeon, you're going to get 45 days
with a storage.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
There is no reason to be greedy there's zero reason
to be greedy.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, so, yeah, that was probably.
But anyways, it was a longnight, so that came in.
That mbc happened about 12 30.
We were on scene at one.
We hadn't gone to bed yet.
Right, a couple of my guys had.
We had, you know, we obviouslyweren't calling our guys right
away.
We assumed a it's going to befatal, there's going to be a
couple hours before we can eventouch anything on site, and so
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on and so forth.
And then by the time they madethe decision so yes, you asked
how many units in that that wegot, and we did get all three
and why that's important.
That is an important question,not just for the finances and
the books, but it's becausethere is no feasible way to work
a recovery of that side.
In my opinion, with multiplecompanies involved you would be
so constantly tripping over eachother.
(42:44):
Yeah right, we've got equipmentmoving every which way.
We've got excavators coming inworking on stuff.
We've got you know what I meanfloats rolling in and out with
equipment hauling out um debrisand and parts of the trucks and
everything else.
You cannot have three companiesworking those recoveries.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
I think it would have took longer if you had three
different companies with threedifferent crews.
Even if the three differentcrews that got brought in had
more manpower and more equipment, Then one yeah 100%.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Right 100%.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
So, 100%.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
So it was talks of that happening originally and I
had no objections because I saidgo ahead, you're going to close
it Like we did it in abouteight, nine and I'm not saying
we're the best of the best, likewe still have a long way to go.
We're humble in our own way,but 100% we were one of them.
(43:39):
Right you would be.
That rock would have taken alot longer to clean up just
because of the logistics behindthree companies trying to do
three different things workingaround each other.
Yeah Right, so no, we uh, so wedid all three.
It worked out.
It was, like I said, the eighthours, whatever it was, I mean,
given the scale of the cleanupand everything else involved in
this, it was a freshly pavedhighway which is going to have
to be repaved again.
Nice, Like freshly paved, likethree days before this.
(44:02):
Oh so the heat and everythingthat got into it, the gouges
that are in the road, it'll be ashave and pave and the roads
guys were laughing about that.
Like it's just, we haven't hadthis highway paved, this section
in like five, six years.
They finally do it in like theweek of these guys go on.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
But no idea.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Taxpayers dollars oh, that's it right, but but no,
like I really want to push thepoint on the recovery side, like
I've got no problem workingwith other companies.
I've worked with people beforeon different things, smaller
wrecks and, and you know, maybea car versus a tractor where the
you know, like one company'sdoing the car, one's doing the
tractor trailer very workablescenes, right, because pretty
(44:42):
much get your car out of the wayand then the other crew goes to
work.
This isn't one of those oneswhere it's like, okay, well,
we're going to go and do one andthen you guys can come in.
No, these scenes were workedsimultaneously and the only way
those scenes can be workedsimultaneously is if everyone is
in communication with everyone.
Right now we offer the thing ofcinetics.
You know how nice cinetics arein a rec like that oh fuck when
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you're working two differentscenes, and we're.
I always thought I was a bigbeliever of let's, let's
separate the frequencies doesn'twork.
Put everyone on the samefrequency.
You have two leaders that aretalking over, like two groups
talking over each other.
You're listening for the keyplayers you're working with, and
my god, though, because whenyou hear someone hit a snag,
you've got a solution for them.
When you hear equipment'scoming or you need equipment
(45:28):
yeah, I have that over here.
You know what I mean, and weset up a truck right in the
middle of the two, put ourstation on it, like our base
station on it, and worked us,and it was god.
It went well so, but it's timewe rolled out of there.
It was about two o'clock in theafternoon, I think.
Wow, um, so we had been up.
You know I hadn't gone to bedyet.
(45:48):
I know I hadn't gotten to bed.
So we were 20, you know 20.
Well, over 24 hours at thatpoint um, how were your logs
leaving?
Speaker 2 (45:59):
there was no logs.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
There was no log books that night I wasn't
hauling freight, I was towingyeah um, but no, it was the team
really pulled together.
I had a guy that night who hadgone on an overnight pretty much
drive to Barry actually andback got back at like 8am and
went right to scene and startedhelping out.
(46:24):
Yeah, like that is a team thatwe have, right, we had guys who
weren't available.
Weren't available for the rec.
Well, they're just as important, because guess who was covering
while we were sleeping.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Right, you know what I mean.
Like I got back from this, Islept for 14 hours.
It was 30 some hours straight.
We had been awake.
I had to go, I had we had madeplans with my mother for dinner
and celebrate my birthday, andso I got back like two.
I think.
I got back about three o'clockI said what time are we going?
When I was like 4 30, I'm like,oh no, she's like what?
I'm like I want to lay down,yeah, but like if I go down, I'm
(46:57):
I'm out.
So I laid in the most weird wayand I'm like I just want to
sleep for 15 minutes.
She's like don't do it, don'tdo it, you're not gonna get up.
It was the best 15 minutes Iever had in my life.
I managed to get myself up,felt a little bit more refreshed
for dinner and then, afterdinner and dessert and
everything else, I'm sittingthere like I got to go home
(47:20):
because I'm about to fall asleep.
So no, it was a wild recovery.
Those are definitely the jobsthat you know.
They help financially too.
Like they're great jobsfinancially, no doubt, but it's
also like they're big teammoments.
The team comes together.
You really see what you have inguys on those wrecks.
When you're pushing to the 24hours, you'll find out what a
(47:43):
guy's made of and you'll alsofind out how much of a team
player he wants to be right,because my team players will
show up every time and then youget the guys that are just like
you know I've had.
I had guys where I send amessage hey, if you're looking,
we could use guys for a littlebit of extra labor for this
wreck, and I never heard backfrom later on that day, never
(48:05):
heard back from anything.
So you know what I mean.
Like you, you, you find out whoyour team is in wrecks like
that, for sure Can you reallyblame them for not getting back
to you, though no.
No, no, no, especially at 5 am.
Yeah, wouldn't mind like alittle 2.30 in the afternoon.
(48:27):
Hey, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, I was sleeping.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
You know I was sleeping.
Whatever Understandable, I wishI was sleeping too Like I
sleeping.
Whatever understandable, I wishI was sleeping too like.
I never give anyone.
You can't give people shit forthat.
No right, I'm a big believer inall of our guys and I run the
same way if you're off and Icall you and I had a run the
night before, actually thatbarry run where I called the guy
I said, hey, I've got this rungoing to barry, are you
interested?
He's off.
(48:50):
He says no, so don't get like.
You'd be helping me out if youdid, but your off time is your
off time, so would I appreciateit if you did 100%.
Am I mad that you're not?
No, anyone not doing this rec.
It's voluntary.
At that point You're not forcedto be there unless you're
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scheduled working, then you'reforced to be there.
There is no.
No, I can't fault guys forsaying no.
Like you're not forced to bethere unless you're scheduled
working, then you're forced tobe there Like there is no, you
know.
So no, I can't fault guys forsaying no.
So yeah, those were the wildadventures of the 401.
The fiery and wild times alongCanada's busiest highway.
The worst part is you'resitting there going like
wrapping that one up, and thejoke we always have is you know
(49:35):
there's going to be another one,right, and like I don't know
what you do, after 30, somehours, another one comes in.
Like you just go like no, yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
You kind of got to.
All your guys are well out ofhours, well out of energy.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
So you kind of wait 24 hours and we'll be there, or
do you just suck it up and goover round two?
Uh, if there's one thing thattowers are, it's suckers for
punishment.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, I truly believe that towers are some of the
biggest suckers for punishmentyou got to get a sponsorship
with either monster energy ortim hortons and supply coffee or
monster energy to the sceneyeah, we, coffee was definitely
a.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Thing yeah, well I spent a lot of time escorting
equipment back right, becausethis stuff was pretty mangled
and whatnot.
Every normally every escortback, it was, uh, tim hortons,
on the way at grab a, you know,fire showed up.
Fire was awesome with us.
The fire guys were great.
Um, they had a couple hosesthey had to write off.
After that they were covered indiesel fuel, um, because they
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get saturated and they can'treuse them.
So, like, we talked with themand, uh, we'll keep the hoses
because we'll cut them up anduse them as protectants in
situations oh yeah around sharpedges because they're kevlar
hoses.
so we'll just we'll cut them upand uh, make them into strips
and have them around the stuff.
They were great.
They had coffee donuts offeredus coffee and donuts as well.
The fire department had donuts.
(51:02):
They had coffee and donuts sentout to them.
I don't know who brought them,Probably the police department.
Nah, oh, dude.
There's two touchy groups in ourarea.
No, it was probably one of the.
You know we had a couple pickuptrucks there, fire pickup
trucks and stuff.
They probably sent somebody outat one point.
We had three different firehalls responding to it, right.
(51:24):
So we had a lot of firefighters, a lot of hungry, tired
firefighters there.
They had to get some sugars andsome caffeine.
I went to the store on the wayand I got two.
What do you call those, theseprotein bars you can get at the
gas station.
Now Cliff, Two Cliff bars, aKit Kat and beef jerky.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
It's your breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah, I had my Cliff bars and my Kit Kat is melted in
my truck now and my jerky isstill in the backseat.
Jerky is good, though It'll goin the go bag.
I keep that go book bag forevery time I got anything.
There's probably actually Ishould have checked there.
There's probably a Red Bull inthere, and the jerky will just
get added to the collection.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
And the chocolate bar will be thrown out.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
The chocolate bar will be thrown out, unless it
stays in there until winter andit hardens it back up again.
Yeah, I reached down today andtouched it went.
Oh yeah, I forgot you werestill here.
You are definitely going to bea little soft, yeah.
So, that being said, it was a uh, it was.
It was a hell of a day.
It was a hell of a weekend.
It was a hell of a birthday.
Um, obviously, we spent most ofit.
(52:34):
My wife made a wonderful steakand potatoes and broccoli for
dinner tonight.
We had a nice steak dinner,bacon and eggs this morning for
breakfast.
That woman absolutely spoils meAn eight pack of wonderful
different beers from differentareas that I love.
That was my weekend in anutshell.
(52:59):
So if you want to hear what nextweekend is going to bring in
hopefully no major wreck likethat on the 401 will interfere
Be sure to tune into our liveshow.
August 25th, 6 PM, easternepisode 150 here on the toe in
life podcast.
You will get your opportunityto ask us any questions.
Um, we'll see.
(53:19):
We're still working ongiveaways and different things
that we can do.
We'll have more information aswe get closer or just the day of
you'll have to tune in to findout if you can't make our live.
You will hear a replay next weekanyways on the show, so be sure
to check it out, don't forget.
We're over on YouTube andFacebook, so you should be.
I gotta remember how we gottaplay around and get that all set
(53:40):
up.
I think we can like start alittle thing that starts about
half an hour before 6 o'clockand then the show will start,
hopefully very timely, around 6o'clock.
We'll have some fun, somequestions, some games, some
different things going on, soanything you want to add to that
G I'm going to bed.
Sounds good.
So, on behalf of myself and mywonderful, tired co-host, mr
(54:03):
Toman G, we thank you forjoining us for another episode
of the Toman Life Podcast and wecannot wait to see you for the
live show August 25th at 6 pm,eastern 3 pm on the West Coast.
Take care, toodles.
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And he lets out the biggest yawnof life you got a big bee yawn
oh it's contagious, hopefully,you weren't driving when you
heard that, and you startedyawning too, because then you
might end up like this tractortrailer Upside down the rhubarb.
For every mile of road there'stwo miles of ditches.
(54:48):
Stay between them.
You want to make sure you can read.
I know how to read some letters.
None of the squiggly ones,though they're tough.
The straight lines not so bad.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm pretty good with the straight ones yeah, yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You start throwing those W's and U's at you and Z's
, and you're just Well, the W'sare still straight lines.
That one depends.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
What does it depend on?
Speaker 1 (00:24):
If you do the straight line W's or the woobly
dooblies.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
You don't do woobly dooblies, it's straight lines.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
No, capital is straight lines.
Little one is woobly dooblies.
No, it's just a little.
You've never made a W withround bottoms.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
No, it's always pointed you owe.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Hmm, the great debate of 2024.
If you do your W's with wooblybooblies or straight lines, If
you type it into the keyboard,it's straight lines.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
There is no woobly booblies.
We've made up a word.
There is no woobly dooblies onthe W's.
Hey everyone, I'm Brad fromCalgary.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
This is Sean from Cambridge, Ontario.
I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Terry from Cornwall Ontario.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Hey, this is Larry from Pitt Meadows, british
Columbia, and you're listeningto the Towing Life Podcast.
Metals, british columbia, andyou're listening to the towing
life podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Let's solve this debate who the fuck are you
calling?
She's not gonna answer shit.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Hello, hey, I got a question.
Okay, when you draw your w's,are they straight lines or with
woobly dooblies at the bottom ofthem?
Like they're rounded yes, withwoobly dooblies.
They're also known as rounded.
(02:05):
Yes, you don't draw W's withstraight lines, right?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I mean, I don't, some people do.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
You're taught to do it that way.
You're taught to do it straightline or woobly booblies
Straight.
Oh then why do we do wooblydooblies?
Because people are accustomedto the way that they write, Just
like Y's are not straight somepeople do a loop at the bottom
yeah, those people are way toofloofy for my likings.
(02:32):
Well, you're married to one, soyou're the perfect amount of
floofy for my likings.
Thanks for the sound clip.
Oh, awesome, love you bye.
You walked right into that one,thanks for the sound clip.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Oh, awesome, love you .
Bye, bye, you walked right intothat one bud.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, I should have known better.
I should know how she does herwhys.
What am I thinking?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Welcome to the Towing Life podcast, where the ditches
are deep, the trucks are loaded, but the drivers are not.
I'm your host, Tome Angie, and,as usual, I'm joined by my
co-host, friend and formerco-worker, the man with very
strong opinions, Mr Plain Guy.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
What is going on?
G.
What is going on?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Oh, we go from recording early in the morning
to late at night, so I'm sleepythis time, and not for the
reason that I just woke up.
Late at night, it's 8, it's 9o'clock.
Yeah, I'm normally in bed atthis time.
I'm like an old man, I don'tmake it past Jeopardy.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
What is it that you have going on right now that has
got you not being able to sleepin?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I just always have been in the routine of getting
up at 5 am, regardless of what Igot going on.
Today was 6 am, but still.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
It was Sunday, he slept in a bit.
Yeah, I'm yawning, as we'reactually, as you're doing that
intro, so I guess I'm no better.
We're going to be feeding offeach other this entire time,
just yawning back and forth, andit's a shame because we have
such great things to go over intoday's show.
Yeah, if you're looking at myeyes on youtube.
(04:07):
I'm not high, I'm just tiredbecause they are slits right now
.
Yeah, so, um, like you said,welcome to another episode of
the tone life podcast, episode149.
Um, as you know, that meansthat, uh, next sunday, or,
depending when you're watchingthis sunday, uh, august 25th, at
6 pm Eastern, we will be doingour live episode, episode 150,
(04:29):
celebrating three yearsproviding countless hours of
entertainment Well, about 150hours of entertainment to each
and every one of you that listento the show week in, week out.
So we do appreciate you comingout.
Any questions, comments,concerns you have for the show
or, in advance, want to send usfor the live show, you can find
us at wwwtowinglifeca, email usat thetowinglife at gmailcom or
(04:54):
find us over on facebook at thetowing life podcast, or, if
you're watching over on theyoutube side, you can always
leave a comment down below.
We will be sure to get to them.
Um, the lives.
If you haven't before seen them, they are on YouTube as well as
Facebook.
You have the option to commentlive right on it.
We do actually monitor activelymonitor the chat during the
(05:15):
live show, so be sure to getyour questions, shout outs,
companies, whatever you want topromote onto the show, send it
through on our live episodeAgain that is sunday, august
25th, at 6 pm eastern 3 pm onthe west coast, and double check
where that is anywhere inbetween those two, because I'm
not gonna give you the time forall six or seven times or I
(05:37):
guess four or five time zones wehave in this country oh and we
were talking about the uhtipping last, uh last episode
and one of our listeners saidyou should set up like a
donation button.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But you can donate to us on the stream.
I'm pretty sure over on youtubeyou can give us like a super
thanks or whatever it's calledover there.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I didn't address that because I got the.
I got the same message sent tome.
I think pretty sure he copypasted the message between us,
um, because I don't think it wasto the page.
But anyways, um, we alwaysappreciate them, regardless if
you have us personally on socialmedia or not.
Um, and I thought about that.
I said you know what?
It is something that we wouldprobably set up, and I'll tell
you this will be the only timethat we'll talk about setting it
(06:20):
up, because the reason is isthat I do not want to promote
that like I have no desire aspart of our intro and part of
our regularly.
You know stuff that we make sureto get out to our listeners,
want to promote.
And don't forget, you can tipus over at.
No, they're here for theentertainment.
If you want to leave a tip, ifyou want to donate, I'm sure you
(06:41):
can find a way to do it.
It doesn't necessarily have tobe through a tip button.
You can reach out.
I'm sure you can find a way todo it.
It doesn't necessarily have tobe through a tip button.
You can reach out to us.
Hey, I love you guys, I love g.
I'm gonna send them fivedollars.
Gee, how do I send you fivedollars?
Right like we're not looking toum panhandle or cater to that
kind of um stuff.
So, yes, there may be a buttonthat gets put into the show,
(07:03):
into future episodes, but it'llbe the only time you'll ever
hear me promote it, because I donot do this show for the money.
If I did, I would not no longerbe doing this show.
But yes, you know what?
Hey, come to the Ontario toeshow coming up in September.
Buy us a beer.
There's the tip button.
You don't even need a tipbutton, right?
(07:24):
Buy g some marshmallows so hecan roast them by the fire in
his trailer that he's hauling.
Send me some peanut butterjelly sandwiches.
So in case this, the the foodtruck food is crap at the tow
show.
I love peanut butter and jellysandwiches.
Just don't make it withstrawberry, that's's junk.
Mcdonald's has a new s'moreMcFlurry.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, s'mores McFlurry.
It's actually pretty good.
It's got a bit of hot fudge init and a lot of little.
It kind of tastes like themarshmallows out of Lucky Charms
.
Okay, mixed in with it withsome crunchy graham crackers,
it's actually pretty good.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I'm surprised they didn't do like I don't know if
we have that in canada or ifit's just.
Like a americans, we eateverything that like marshmallow
spread like it's likemarshmallow in a jar.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
No, I've never even heard of you've never heard of
this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
No, oh, I haven't tried it and anyone who watching
the show who has tried it?
Um, you have to tell us if it'sactually good.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Look up fluff marsh or marshmallow fluff I will when
my internet stops shitting thebed okay, that is fair.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
How about I'll do you one better.
I'll present a screen that Ihave it on.
Um chrome tab.
Marshmallow in a jar.
So this is marshmallow in a jar.
It's marshmallow fluff.
Do you see my screen?
I don't know if you canactually see my screen.
Oh, you can't actually see myscreen.
No, do we have to?
(08:54):
How do we?
Oh, here we go.
I did this tapes.
There we go ah, this ismarshmallow in a jar um um
nutritional facts welcome to thetoying life podcast everyone no
, you, you've got me for 100grams.
Oh, that's just marshmallow.
I want marshmallow fluff.
(09:15):
There we go.
Marshmallow fluff.
Nutritional facts twotablespoons is wow, this is a
very good.
It really shows nothing.
Six grams of sugar.
It's 12 grams.
It's six grams of sugar.
Is that a lot?
It's half.
(09:36):
Half of it is sugar.
Oh yeah, like it's half yeahsugar includes six grams of
added sugars.
You don't say um, yes I guessthat is a lot I'm surprised they
didn't use that stuff as the uh, like that kind of stuff
(09:57):
instead, like the little hardmarshmallows those little hard
marshmallows that came in luckycharm sucked.
I said what I they're prettygood.
You thought they were prettygood.
Back when I was like 10, eatingLucky Charms, when was the last
time you had a bowl of LuckyCharms.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Oh, it's probably been over a decade now.
At this point I used thoseReese's Puffs were the shit back
in the day.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yo, I would still kill a bowl of those if we were
ever going to eat those.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
It makes your milk turn chocolatey and you
delicious.
Now we get all these anti-funcereals for adults Make your
teeth rot out of your mouth, butit's worth it.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's worth it.
Okay, enough of the food.
You know what we do get offpace quite regularly on this
show, but 90 of the time that weget off pace is food yeah and I
think people in our industryand other operators that are
listening can relate to the foodside of things.
Listen, we're in our trucks,we're on the road constantly.
(11:00):
Right, there's two things thatwe're good at towing cars and
eating food and some of us areonly good at one of those things
.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Are we turning the towing world podcast into a food
eating podcast, or are we justdoing a separate branch?
We don't have enough time fortwo podcasts, so one of them is
going to have to stay.
One of them is going to have togo.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Well, we'll let the fans decide.
But yeah, like I said, we'regood at two things driving tow
trucks and eating food, and I'vemet a lot of operators that are
only good at one of those two,so I wasn't pointing you out
specifically for the record.
So, no, we did have a greatepisode to get into.
(11:38):
We will start off.
Actually, g, you had somethingthat you wanted to share right
away with on behalf of who again?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, the names at the top of the screenshot there
the all ms msp tow providers.
It's from statewide towingassociation inc.
Of massachusetts.
Yes, I can't actually say thatstate's name without doing the
slander term I had no idea therewas a slander term, but okay
yeah, massachusettsmassachusetts.
(12:10):
Okay so I'm gonna have to makethis full screen so I can
actually read it, because I gotyou a screenshot in 20.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
In 2022, the massachusetts legislator
legislation less legislatorpassed a law to require all
state contractors' vehicles tobe equipped with vulnerable user
protection devices effectiveJanuary 1, 2025.
The Registry of Motor Vehicleswas tasked with drafting
regulation as to the type ofequipment required and which
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vehicle would be required toinstall this equipment.
The RMV did not release theproposed regulation until mid
2024.
Oh, you sound like ourgovernment?
Yeah.
At which time, STA filedcomments regarding the lack of
exemption for towing equipmentand the unfeasibility of
installing this equipment ontowing equipment.
(12:58):
Sta and our lobbyists have alsoreached out to legislators,
state agencies and otherassociations whose members will
be affected by these regulations.
To date, there have been nochanges to the proposed
regulations.
Sta is still activelyadvocating for an exemption for
towing equipment.
This means that unless theproposed regulations are amended
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, all MSP tow service providerswill be required to install the
required equipment on all theirvehicles by january 1st 2025.
The estimated cost to installthe required equipment on a
towing vehicle is six thousandto eight thousand dollars per
vehicle.
Required equipment is asfollows backup cameras.
What's a crossover mirror?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
so those are the front mirrors on the vehicle
that will show you in front ofthe bumper.
It's the same mirrors that areon like school buses.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Oh okay, the hood bump, the hood mirrors.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
No, not hood mirrors.
Those are normally convexmirrors that show the sides of
your vehicles.
These are to protrude out fromthe hood like three feet and
show you your whole front bumper.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Oh, to make sure you're not running over small
children, okay, yeah, convexmirrors which would be your hood
mirrors for the most part, ormost, trucks have a convex also
built into the um, like toemirrors, lateral side guards
with a maximum ground clearanceof 13.8 inches.
Yeah, like the bumper cars onthe wheels like the bumper
covers, I'm assuming so.
(14:26):
In addition, aftermarketmodifications or accessories
such as bug deflectors, chromevisors and bull bars are
prohibited and must be removed.
In order to accurately identifythe scope of the impact of the
number of msp towing companieswho will not be able to meet the
new requirements, sta is askingall msp towing service
providers to answer atwo-question survey.
The survey is anonymous and weask that there only be one
(14:47):
response per company.
So so the state is implementingnew requirements on state
regulated vehicles yep and thetowing and the tow trucks are
falling within thatclassification by the sounds of
it.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
So for the uh lateral side guards.
What I'm pulling up is, youknow, those uh like skid rails
on the side of trucks to coverup any blank space no, so you
know how some of the dry boxvans have those like cardboard
(15:23):
pieces of shit that hang downlow for aerodynamics.
Yeah making sure can getunderneath of it the same right.
So what this is actually doing?
I've pulled up uh umass amherstcollege of engineering.
They put out a post about this.
(15:43):
What is vulnerable road users?
Massachusetts now definesvulnerable user on the roads to
include people walking andbiking, roadside workers, people
using wheelchairs, scooters,skateboards, roller skates and
other micro mobility devices,horse-drawn carriages and farm
equipment devices.
(16:08):
Horse-drawn carriages and farmequipment.
Um, so it also includes safepassing for motorists.
Um, you need to provide a safepassing distance of at least
four feet when passingvulnerable road users.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, yeah, so anytime we have that, it's three
feet I think in ontario I couldbe wrong um rear red light
requirement for bicyclists forriding at night which is good.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Safer speed limits which just drops speed limits
down from 30 miles per hour to25 miles per hour, which kind of
sucks.
Crash reporting truck safetydevices, which is what we're
talking about.
Backup cameras this requirementwill do some of the tragic
right hook fatalities we've seenin recent years Right.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
No, tragic right hook fatalities we've seen in recent
years.
Right now it'll register.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
The register shall also prohibit aftermarket
accessories that obstruct,obstruct visibility or endanger
vulnerable users.
So does your boom in your backwindow that obstructs that
visibility actually count?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
no, but that's why they're going after the bug
deflectors, chrome visors andthe bowl bars.
The bowl bars are probably more, because they have an option of
sticking out and hookingsomebody yeah um, that's walking
by, I guess, or that you canhook on a as you're making a
corner.
I mean, it's a little excessive.
Yeah, like backup cameras forthe amount of times that we back
(17:26):
up and for safety and with mostvehicles coming equipped with
them, non-tow truck vehicles,meaning, you know, this is, I'm
sure, for, like state, umhighway pickup trucks, um crash
trucks, that kind of stuff,right, utility trucks and all
that it makes sense for towing,though tell me why it doesn't,
(17:50):
tell me why it doesn't makesense to to have a mandatory
backup camera for safety withthe amount of times that you're
backing around and and intoplace.
It's not, you know, thecrossover mirrors.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I, I can't, I, I understand it they're ugly as
fuck and I don't know 100 thecost that comes with this is is
crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Um, I can see why they're um, you know why they're
upset about it, but I know thecrossover mirrors on showing on
a bus are literally those hoodmirrors.
They're just wider angled hoodmirrors, but a hundred percent
like.
Obviously there's been anincrease in accidents in
(18:30):
Massachusetts or you know,vulnerable people struck and
killed.
I mean, we have it all the time.
Ontario too, I guess there'snot a bad enough problem yet
that they want to to bring inthat kind of stuff.
But keep fighting.
This is why your associationsare important.
Right, you're seeing this inmoments right now.
We just currently went thatkind of stuff.
But keep fighting.
This is why your associationsare important.
Right, you're seeing this inmoments right now.
We just currently went, like wejust recently went through it
um, down here in ontario.
(18:51):
Because you need a unifiedvoice when it comes to those um,
to those issues.
You need somebody who isspeaking on your behalf, not
three different people orindependent toe operators that
are pushing their mouth offwhere they really shouldn't be
even if it's not shooting yourmouth off, right?
one person having a an objectionto something and then turning
(19:13):
out that 5, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50,100, 200, 500, 000 have the same
problem or objection.
But if only one person writes aletter and complains about it,
nothing's going to happen.
If your association, whichspeaks for a large volume of
your towers, I hope willhopefully in massachusetts says
something, it might carry alittle bit of weight.
(19:35):
Right, the us associations areno joke, right, ontario has had
a bit of a gong show when it'scome to associations over recent
times, but the american oneswhat I heard are fairly strong
and fairly unified.
So if there's anyone that canfight it, so if you're down in
massachusetts and I and I knowwe do have listeners down there
be sure to check out yourassociation, be sure to support
(19:55):
them and be sure to get thatunified voice across to you know
, there is items on here that Ithink should be mandatory or
could be mandatory.
I think having all of them isgetting a little uh, is a little
ridiculous.
But you can make some changeswith your government If you can.
You know, get to the rightpeople and and work together.
That's something that we'rehoping for.
What's that?
Speaker 2 (20:15):
I really don't like the fact that they're trying to
get rid of bush guards to likeprotect your investment from
like deer and stuff Right.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Protect your investment from like deer and
stuff.
Let's be honest, you put a bushbar almost call it something
else but you put a bush bar inany of your pickup trucks to
save you from an animal.
No, I'm not saying that.
That's not what they can beused for.
The problem is 95% of themaren't.
I got transports going down theroad with rabbit bumpers but
(20:47):
the first thing they hit biggerthan a rabbit is gonna write
this bar off the front of it andnot save a goddamn thing on the
truck.
So don't tell me it's about.
You know they're, unfortunately.
You're like the person thatgets a that you know has a
service dog that isn't actuallya service dog, but says it could
be a service dog and I'mallowed it.
That's the same argument.
Get that shit out of here.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
No, I'm just the person that drives around with
my trailer, hitch in all thetime.
In case someone so, do I so doI?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
only because when we bought the truck we didn't get
the lock for the pin lock, thekey for the pin lock, and I
haven't have to take the edgeout there and I've definitely
banged my shit off it multipletimes.
But no legislation change is ais a pain in the ass, and
especially when the people arewriting the legislation aren't
(21:35):
living the day to day of thecompanies in which they're
enforcing it on.
Right, we're, we're gonna,we're gonna get into that a
little bit.
We're, we're going to get intothat a little bit.
We're running into thatsituation.
Right now I am in a situationwhere I cannot hire a new
employee.
Not that I cannot hire a newemployee, I can hire whoever I
want.
The problem is is I've reachedout with this new requirement
(21:59):
that we have for mandatorytraining, and I've reached out
and I've written a letter to thegovernment and I have shared it
so to see who else is in thesame boat as I am, where the
government requires that beforean operator can drive a tow
truck in the province, he mustcomplete mandatory training.
Problem I have the mandatorytraining, the hands-on portion.
(22:20):
The next available course that Ihad currently available was
probably because they haven'teven confirmed it for four weeks
away yeah, over four weeks away.
They can't tell me where.
So which means, if I were tohire a guy today, I've got four
weeks before he can drive a towtruck, before I can fully
evaluate his capabilities as anoperator, not even saying that
(22:42):
he can drive, you know, in aclosed circuit, so in our yard,
but he cannot drive a tow truckon the road by himself, or with
somebody for that matter.
He's not allowed to drive untilhe he completes his basic
requirement.
It's become unrealistic.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Hey, bob, you want a job?
Yeah, sure, I'd love a job.
All right, perfect.
Let me put you down in aclassroom.
You'll do six hours worth ofclassroom training there and
then I'll see you in four to sixweeks.
You're not getting paid forthat, by the way, because I
can't afford that and you're notmaking me money.
In four to six weeks, I'm goingto send you to this training
course that cost me a bunch ofmoney, and then we can even see
(23:20):
if you're cut out for this or ifyou even like it.
Um, please don't find anotherjob in that four to six weeks,
because you need to make moneyand I get that, but I would like
you to work for me, bob yep,yep, that's 100 the spot I'm in.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I don't even know what I'm gonna go tell this guy
he interviewed.
Well, I think you make a greatcandidate, and so I reached out
to find when the next availabletraining was, and I got told
over four weeks away.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So now, what do I do?
Hey, keep working where you'reworking.
I promise I will hire you.
I'm not sure to work out, youknow.
And no, that's not how we'redoing it.
They're paying the trainingcourse.
How we're doing it they'repaying the training course.
We'll pay it up front and theycan, uh, and they can pay us
back in installments, becauseI'm not.
I'm not paying for bob to gofor a thousand dollar course and
(24:07):
then you know, get it and hangaround for a week and then screw
off.
Can't do that, no.
So yeah, I'm absolutely handtied on being able to bring in
new workers.
Now, the unintended side effectthat came with that that no one
really thought about, you thinkthat changes your mind when
you're coming to fire anoperator?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Now that could be good or bad.
Right, it could help, maybehelp, you know, it could stop
some people from just absolutelytaking advantage of their
operators.
But whenever you have asituation where you absolutely
are on the verge that you go.
I've got to let this person go,but, holy god, am I going to be
short because I can't hire areplacement.
Like the towing industry wasalready very hard to hire for,
(24:53):
we've just made it 100 timesharder yeah we've absolutely
made it 100 times harder to beable to and I'm not just talking
about quality candidates anycandidates the price point for
the training.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Okay, we can get over that, we can work on that, we
can figure out ways to, like yousaid, competition will come
into the industry.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Price will take care of itself.
Yeah, but the availability,because only two companies right
now are offering this trainingcurrently at the time of writing
my letter and, as far as I'maware, um there's only like
currently there's only twoproviders, that is rec master
and that is uh caa south centralontario yeah those are the two
(25:38):
that are available.
I'm going to go check theirwebsite as we speak, and no,
there are still only twoavailable.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
So my understanding, CAA South Central Ontario and I
have not confirmed this are onlyoffering that training to CAA
providers, which I would believe.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I would believe that.
Now here's the worst part.
I called a company that I knowthat works up in that area and I
said, hey, what's the numberfor your rep?
Because I'd like to see about.
Maybe maybe I'm a, you know, ifwe're a provider in a different
region, can I send my.
It might be a farther distance,but if they say, hey, I got one
(26:16):
next week or the week after,maybe I could get a guy up there
, maybe it's worth it to me.
So called her up, left themessage.
They haven't even returned mycall, like four or five days ago
, not like business days yeahI'm like, okay, well, because
again you're calling from apretty reputable company as well
(26:39):
yeah, yeah, but they also knowwhere I'm from, the area I'm
from, and probably that's not myproblem.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Like you know, I'm not sure they would.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
So I don't know what your rep about it.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
My rep doesn't have a cell phone apparently anymore,
and the only way to get a holdof them is by email, which I
have sent off an email and havestill not received a response.
Oh, an email and have still notreceived a response.
Oh wonderful so that's.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
That's nice.
It's been a.
It's been an interesting week.
Can?
Can we talk about the elephantin the room briefly, what's that
?
If you're an audio listener,thank you, um, but if you're a
video listener, you have seenplain guy sit with a weird
looking stupid plastic fedorahat on his head that says happy
birthday on it my wife made mewear it.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yes, at the time of recording it is my birthday, so
g is going to grace us all rightnow by singing me happy
birthday on the show.
Go ahead, g, take it away.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Happy birthday to you .
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday, happy birthday,happy birthday to you.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Do you not know how to sing happy birthday?
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I think that's just how you sing it, is it not?
Speaker 1 (28:02):
No, it's normally happy birthday.
Uh, you know person's name.
Happy birthday to you at theend, but yes, okay how old am I?
That has yet to be determined.
Mentally I'm still about seven,um.
Physically I'm about 95, uh,but trips around the sun, I am
35.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
35.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So not getting any younger.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Getting closer to that 40 age, aren't you?
How's your hair holding?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
up Not very well.
No, it's thin.
It's thin up there.
No grays, though I've been verylucky with no grays.
Um, considering everything I'duh, I'm surprised there isn't
more of that.
So, yes, it is, you can thankjust for men for that.
No, I don't.
I don't dye my beard.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I've never dyed my beard.
I promise you.
I'd tell you if I do it, itwould be the same hair or color.
Color is my hair instead ofthis weird red beard that I have
.
Yeah, um, yes, that is off topof hell, but yes, my wife bought
me this hat and um made surethat I had to wear it today
while recording the podcast,since we're recording right on
my birthday.
Um.
So thank you in advance for allthe well wishes and anyone who
(29:13):
did take the time to wish me abirthday today.
It was great till man g didn't,but um it did oh did you yeah,
oh yeah, I started with happybirthday.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
When are we recording ?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
it was the other day when I sent you a message and
we're going to get into thiswreck, um, this doozy of a wreck
that we're going to talk abouttoday.
Um, I was just sending him amessage to say, before you ask
me when we're recording, and Iwas sending a message to him
when recording yeah, I've beenon this since 1 am and right as
(29:47):
I send it I look and you wouldjust send me a message when are
we recording?
Yeah, and then his response wasoh, so tomorrow.
Then so yes, we?
Um.
I've never really shared videosor photos of wrecks, mainly
because, as most companies willtell you, it's private right.
There's all the time there'sinjuries and there's company
(30:09):
names involved and everythingelse.
This wreck was a little bitdifferent.
It was, it was, pretty worthyof a mention all over the
internet, like everywhere Ilooked, being in the town that
I'm in.
This was a major event.
Social media had dash camfootage of the wreck which we
will show on the show.
Like six hours after ithappened, the first videos of
(30:34):
dash cam footage was going up.
I seen the dash cam footage onsite.
I had seen it with a drivergiving it.
I made sure it was none of myguys that leaked it.
Um, I don't think any of themhave it.
I don't know who did leak thisfootage, but we had a massive
three tractor trailer uhcollision that happened recently
on the 401 in our area.
So, to lay the the groundworkfor it, a tractor trailer was
(31:01):
traveling eastbound.
For unknown reasons still.
He crossed the center medianand almost went head on and
ended up hitting another tractortrailer, which then created a
fiery mess, and a third tractortrailer following behind, which
is which we have the dash camfootage for, drove through said
(31:23):
fireball and the trailer.
So two trucks were headingwestbound, one heading eastbound
.
Give you an idea of the dash camfootage?
We'll play it now.
The dash cam footage is fromthe truck that was the third
truck in traveling westbound.
There's nothing gory about thisand I'm happy to report there
was no major injuries at all,which is unreal.
(31:45):
So we'll play the video.
So we'll see the truck chairthat's heading west.
Pretty heavy traffic Boom,fireball, boom into the fireball
.
Like that is fire.
Guys wanted to see that on onsite at the wreck and I I told
them like that's like afireman's wet dream, is driving
(32:09):
into a fireball collisiondetected.
A very heavy incident.
We actually did have videofootage as well that we found
from the scene right after ithappened.
Wow, yeah, actually did havevideo footage as well that we
found from the scene right afterit happened.
Wow, yeah.
So these these photos are takenfrom the eastbound lanes.
(32:30):
That is the trailer that gotdriven through that truck that
you see upright in thebackground.
That is the dash cam a lot ofemergency personnel on scene.
That's a mess that is nothingcompared to.
Oh, I'd sent you some of theother photos and we will share
them, um, ones that we could,making sure not to identify any
(32:54):
companies or anyone involved.
Um, but that is so.
That is facing westbound.
So that is the truck thatcrossed the median that you're
looking at, burnt right down,burnt right down.
You can see the upright trailerover on the right, the, the one
that's standing on with itslights up.
That's a service road, a bypassroad, um, so the one's up
standing and there's a secondone in there, um, this photo on
(33:17):
the left is that same truck thatyou just seen.
That was burnt to the ground.
That was his load and histrailer ripped open.
Produce, yeah, he was.
So the one that crossed thehighway was carrying kiwis.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Oh nice.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Lemons.
I don't know if there's anylimes, but kiwis and lemons for
sure.
The other gentleman here withhis trailer ripped open he was
the one that originally got hit.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
He was hauling lettuce, onions, veggies,
produce, right, so we had avegetable.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, it's just a caesar salad or a vegetable
garden salad all over thehighway yeah, yeah, exactly, and
I have never um going back tothe first photo and it really
doesn't do it justice.
When I first showed up on sceneand I was walking down this
highway, there was like littlepiles of Like piles of little
fires everywhere, like it lookedlike a war zone.
(34:08):
Like you know, obviously, firewere focusing their efforts On
these trucks and these trailers.
How nobody died Is still Amystery.
How nobody had major injuries,like the one guy had a couple of
cut fingers, I don't know ifanyone left in ambulance like
(34:28):
that minor of injuries, wow yeah, so we predicted about the
eight to 12 hour closure Once wegot started, once we got the
okay to do the work and getstarted.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
How many vehicles were you here to clean up?
All three, oh well closure.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Once we got started, once we got the okay to do the
work and get started how manyvehicles were you here to clean
up All three, oh, wow, all threevehicles.
All three vehicles and theircargos.
Now, what a lot of people don'tunderstand jobs like this.
I'm not saying they're simple.
There's a little tricky.
Load that tractor onto atrailer it's rotator work for
sure.
Lift it up, chain it best youcan put it down on a trailer.
(35:04):
Luckily we were like kilometersaway from our shop, like a
kilometer or two oh nice so itdoes help with the
transportation of equipment,also, of getting you know
reaction time to it and gettingequipment on site and starting
the process.
Um, we had we had it clearedfrom the time we got the call um
and where our equipmentactually started working because
there was traffic we had tomove through.
(35:26):
We had to clear a path fortraffic.
There was, you know, thistrailer you see here on the left
.
We had the fire department hadus opening it up so they could
hit hot spots within the trailer.
Right, so once we couldactually get to work on recovery
work it was, uh, about seven oreight hours the highway was
closed.
Well, most of this stuff,though, is is just, it's like
(35:46):
it's destroyed.
Every piece of equipment,including that trailer that is
upright over there, um, isdestroyed.
Yeah, um, the that one is theonly one that the cargo is good,
but the trailer, the wholereefer there's a reefer on the
front the whole front of thetrailer is torched.
Yeah, so you're pretty muchdoing a salvage job at this
point.
Right, you've got excavatorsdoing work with, um, you know,
(36:08):
lugger boxes and you're justloading up, you know burnt
produce and all that.
You're just cleaning up themess.
Yeah right, very little thatare going on our flat decks and
floats, a lot of the reeferunits, the back doors, the stuff
you can't break up and cut upand throw in lugger bins, but
still a wild cleanup.
I should have actually sharedphotos of the highway afterwards
(36:29):
because you wouldn't even tell.
Well, you'd have no idea we'rethere.
The ironic part, the funniestpart of this whole recovery was
while this was still going on,before the job had been decided,
we were on scene and we get areport.
So the only way because thehighway was backed up and closed
each way, the only way for thefire department to get off um
(36:50):
was to head um eastbound in theeastbound lanes.
Get off, fill their waterpumper, get back on westbound in
the eastbound lanes, get off,fill their water pumper, get
back on westbound in theeastbound lanes because the
highway was closed.
Well, a truck driver who wasgoing westbound and was going to
be completely blocked for whathe thought a couple hours,
decided he didn't want to waitanymore.
He decided to pull a U-turn inthe emergency U-turn with his
(37:14):
53-foot trailer.
Now, this is a very wide u-turn.
He missed.
He got his trailer tires intothe center median, which the way
it was leaning, was takingweight off of his drives and
therefore he was stuck, yeah,now blocking the only way the
fire department can come in andout of this scene.
(37:35):
So we get on scene with that, Iget there before the cops to
see if it's something you know,and we'll get a truck mobile and
we'll get this cleared.
Obviously, this is, you know,kind of the urgency at this
point.
These trucks aren't goinganywhere, but this guy is
blocking fire.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, first thing he says to me when I pull up, goes.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I'm sorry, I go.
You don't have to be sorry tome, but the two guys that are
the two extra units that arecoming with flashing red and
blue lights, you might want toapologize to them.
Yeah, they're the ones that aregoing to have probably a
fistful of tickets for you.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Well, it gets better, this driver.
So we've got to.
Before I get into that, we'vegot a truck on its way.
One of our rotators is going tolift the trailer, put it back
onto the road.
It's a quick, easy job.
Yep, our driver.
Uh, this driver.
When the cops get there, theystart talking to him, they run
his information.
Cop comes back to me and hegoes.
(38:28):
I'm just waiting forconfirmation.
Sure he's suspended oh nice sowe wait and sure enough, he
comes back.
He is suspended um for for dui,the previous dui nice, which
means he is ineligible to bedriving which carries a 45 day
(38:49):
impound on the tractor.
The trailer can be released atany time yeah so if you're gonna
be dumb, be good at it.
If you're gonna be dumb, yougotta be tough yeah, so the fact
that he couldn't make thisu-turn is ridiculous.
Yeah, it's the widest one inthis side of toronto and so he
(39:12):
misses it, gets stuck, which isan invitation for police.
You're on a 400 highway and youjust took a U-turn and got
stuck.
This is an invitation forpolice to come see you.
Like that, that is better thana Christmas card.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
They are a hundred percent going to come see you as
soon as you do that and have asuspended license Like I would
have ran like at that point youmight as well just got out of
your truck and been like youknow what, see ya.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I mean like if you had a suspended license,
wouldn't you have a thought inyour mind is like maybe I
shouldn't do dumb things anddraw attention to myself If I
have a suspension Right, youknow right, that would.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
that would be one of the first few thoughts that
would come to your mind.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Like if, if you let your insurance lapse and you're
like, fuck, I don't haveinsurance, maybe I should, you
know, not do 120 in an 80.
Maybe I should be like a littlebit more sensible to like you
know read the report.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Especially in our area there's huge, because of
our corridor and because we'rewe're close to us borders
smuggling right, whether it betobacco, whether it be whatever.
And these guys will get caughtwith, you know, truckloads full
of unmarked tobacco or whateverit is they're bringing and why
they get pulled over Cause theywere doing 140 on the highway.
(40:35):
If I've got a trunk full ofhashish.
I'm doing five over, ten overmaybe.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Even twenty.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
You're non-conspicuous.
Drive like you would if youdidn't have a trunk full of
hashish.
These guys will do a mockchicken down the highway and
then go oh, cops are out to getme.
So I got a.
I didn't include it on on theslides, but I got a photo of
(41:02):
this truck driver being walkedto the cop car in handcuffs,
which is pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
He was released later on, a couple hours later um so
you had to send one of yourheavies to impound this truck
trailer now we drove it okay wewith everything else going on
with the fire stuff yeah like.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
So we used our rotator to pull it out of the
median.
I told the cop I'm like, look,with everything going on, the
equipment and all that, can Ijust like drive this thing back
to our yard?
I didn't really care, like thethe vehicle's impounded, it's
going into our care and control.
Yeah, um, it's like a fivekilometer ride yeah, so we left
our rotator on the side of thehighway on the other side
because the side might open bythe time we got back and yeah,
(41:41):
just did the drive and broughtit back and I'll reflect that on
the bill, like I'm not going tobe.
Like hey, I towed your truckand I took it.
Like you know what I mean, comeon, you're going to get 45 days
with a storage.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
There is no reason to be greedy there's zero reason
to be greedy.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, so, yeah, that was probably.
But anyways, it was a longnight, so that came in.
That mbc happened about 12 30.
We were on scene at one.
We hadn't gone to bed yet.
Right, a couple of my guys had.
We had, you know, we obviouslyweren't calling our guys right
away.
We assumed a it's going to befatal, there's going to be a
couple hours before we can eventouch anything on site, and so
(42:22):
on and so forth.
And then by the time they madethe decision so yes, you asked
how many units in that that wegot, and we did get all three
and why that's important.
That is an important question,not just for the finances and
the books, but it's becausethere is no feasible way to work
a recovery of that side.
In my opinion, with multiplecompanies involved you would be
so constantly tripping over eachother.
(42:44):
Yeah right, we've got equipmentmoving every which way.
We've got excavators coming inworking on stuff.
We've got you know what I meanfloats rolling in and out with
equipment hauling out um debrisand and parts of the trucks and
everything else.
You cannot have three companiesworking those recoveries.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
I think it would have took longer if you had three
different companies with threedifferent crews.
Even if the three differentcrews that got brought in had
more manpower and more equipment, Then one yeah 100%.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Right 100%.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
So, 100%.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
So it was talks of that happening originally and I
had no objections because I saidgo ahead, you're going to close
it Like we did it in abouteight, nine and I'm not saying
we're the best of the best, likewe still have a long way to go.
We're humble in our own way,but 100% we were one of them.
(43:39):
Right you would be.
That rock would have taken alot longer to clean up just
because of the logistics behindthree companies trying to do
three different things workingaround each other.
Yeah Right, so no, we uh, so wedid all three.
It worked out.
It was, like I said, the eighthours, whatever it was, I mean,
given the scale of the cleanupand everything else involved in
this, it was a freshly pavedhighway which is going to have
to be repaved again.
Nice, Like freshly paved, likethree days before this.
(44:02):
Oh so the heat and everythingthat got into it, the gouges
that are in the road, it'll be ashave and pave and the roads
guys were laughing about that.
Like it's just, we haven't hadthis highway paved, this section
in like five, six years.
They finally do it in like theweek of these guys go on.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
But no idea.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Taxpayers dollars oh, that's it right, but but no,
like I really want to push thepoint on the recovery side, like
I've got no problem workingwith other companies.
I've worked with people beforeon different things, smaller
wrecks and, and you know, maybea car versus a tractor where the
you know, like one company'sdoing the car, one's doing the
tractor trailer very workablescenes, right, because pretty
(44:42):
much get your car out of the wayand then the other crew goes to
work.
This isn't one of those oneswhere it's like, okay, well,
we're going to go and do one andthen you guys can come in.
No, these scenes were workedsimultaneously and the only way
those scenes can be workedsimultaneously is if everyone is
in communication with everyone.
Right now we offer the thing ofcinetics.
You know how nice cinetics arein a rec like that oh fuck when
(45:05):
you're working two differentscenes, and we're.
I always thought I was a bigbeliever of let's, let's
separate the frequencies doesn'twork.
Put everyone on the samefrequency.
You have two leaders that aretalking over, like two groups
talking over each other.
You're listening for the keyplayers you're working with, and
my god, though, because whenyou hear someone hit a snag,
you've got a solution for them.
When you hear equipment'scoming or you need equipment
(45:28):
yeah, I have that over here.
You know what I mean, and weset up a truck right in the
middle of the two, put ourstation on it, like our base
station on it, and worked us,and it was god.
It went well so, but it's timewe rolled out of there.
It was about two o'clock in theafternoon, I think.
Wow, um, so we had been up.
You know I hadn't gone to bedyet.
(45:48):
I know I hadn't gotten to bed.
So we were 20, you know 20.
Well, over 24 hours at thatpoint um, how were your logs
leaving?
Speaker 2 (45:59):
there was no logs.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
There was no log books that night I wasn't
hauling freight, I was towingyeah um, but no, it was the team
really pulled together.
I had a guy that night who hadgone on an overnight pretty much
drive to Barry actually andback got back at like 8am and
went right to scene and startedhelping out.
(46:24):
Yeah, like that is a team thatwe have, right, we had guys who
weren't available.
Weren't available for the rec.
Well, they're just as important, because guess who was covering
while we were sleeping.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Right, you know what I mean.
Like I got back from this, Islept for 14 hours.
It was 30 some hours straight.
We had been awake.
I had to go, I had we had madeplans with my mother for dinner
and celebrate my birthday, andso I got back like two.
I think.
I got back about three o'clockI said what time are we going?
When I was like 4 30, I'm like,oh no, she's like what?
I'm like I want to lay down,yeah, but like if I go down, I'm
(46:57):
I'm out.
So I laid in the most weird wayand I'm like I just want to
sleep for 15 minutes.
She's like don't do it, don'tdo it, you're not gonna get up.
It was the best 15 minutes Iever had in my life.
I managed to get myself up,felt a little bit more refreshed
for dinner and then, afterdinner and dessert and
everything else, I'm sittingthere like I got to go home
(47:20):
because I'm about to fall asleep.
So no, it was a wild recovery.
Those are definitely the jobsthat you know.
They help financially too.
Like they're great jobsfinancially, no doubt, but it's
also like they're big teammoments.
The team comes together.
You really see what you have inguys on those wrecks.
When you're pushing to the 24hours, you'll find out what a
(47:43):
guy's made of and you'll alsofind out how much of a team
player he wants to be right,because my team players will
show up every time and then youget the guys that are just like
you know I've had.
I had guys where I send amessage hey, if you're looking,
we could use guys for a littlebit of extra labor for this
wreck, and I never heard backfrom later on that day, never
(48:05):
heard back from anything.
So you know what I mean.
Like you, you, you find out whoyour team is in wrecks like
that, for sure Can you reallyblame them for not getting back
to you, though no.
No, no, no, especially at 5 am.
Yeah, wouldn't mind like alittle 2.30 in the afternoon.
(48:27):
Hey, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, I was sleeping.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
You know I was sleeping.
Whatever Understandable, I wishI was sleeping too Like I
sleeping.
Whatever understandable, I wishI was sleeping too like.
I never give anyone.
You can't give people shit forthat.
No right, I'm a big believer inall of our guys and I run the
same way if you're off and Icall you and I had a run the
night before, actually thatbarry run where I called the guy
I said, hey, I've got this rungoing to barry, are you
interested?
He's off.
(48:50):
He says no, so don't get like.
You'd be helping me out if youdid, but your off time is your
off time, so would I appreciateit if you did 100%.
Am I mad that you're not?
No, anyone not doing this rec.
It's voluntary.
At that point You're not forcedto be there unless you're
(49:13):
scheduled working, then you'reforced to be there.
There is no.
No, I can't fault guys forsaying no.
Like you're not forced to bethere unless you're scheduled
working, then you're forced tobe there Like there is no, you
know.
So no, I can't fault guys forsaying no.
So yeah, those were the wildadventures of the 401.
The fiery and wild times alongCanada's busiest highway.
The worst part is you'resitting there going like
wrapping that one up, and thejoke we always have is you know
(49:35):
there's going to be another one,right, and like I don't know
what you do, after 30, somehours, another one comes in.
Like you just go like no, yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
You kind of got to.
All your guys are well out ofhours, well out of energy.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
So you kind of wait 24 hours and we'll be there, or
do you just suck it up and goover round two?
Uh, if there's one thing thattowers are, it's suckers for
punishment.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, I truly believe that towers are some of the
biggest suckers for punishmentyou got to get a sponsorship
with either monster energy ortim hortons and supply coffee or
monster energy to the sceneyeah, we, coffee was definitely
a.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Thing yeah, well I spent a lot of time escorting
equipment back right, becausethis stuff was pretty mangled
and whatnot.
Every normally every escortback, it was, uh, tim hortons,
on the way at grab a, you know,fire showed up.
Fire was awesome with us.
The fire guys were great.
Um, they had a couple hosesthey had to write off.
After that they were covered indiesel fuel, um, because they
(50:41):
get saturated and they can'treuse them.
So, like, we talked with themand, uh, we'll keep the hoses
because we'll cut them up anduse them as protectants in
situations oh yeah around sharpedges because they're kevlar
hoses.
so we'll just we'll cut them upand uh, make them into strips
and have them around the stuff.
They were great.
They had coffee donuts offeredus coffee and donuts as well.
The fire department had donuts.
(51:02):
They had coffee and donuts sentout to them.
I don't know who brought them,Probably the police department.
Nah, oh, dude.
There's two touchy groups in ourarea.
No, it was probably one of the.
You know we had a couple pickuptrucks there, fire pickup
trucks and stuff.
They probably sent somebody outat one point.
We had three different firehalls responding to it, right.
(51:24):
So we had a lot of firefighters, a lot of hungry, tired
firefighters there.
They had to get some sugars andsome caffeine.
I went to the store on the wayand I got two.
What do you call those, theseprotein bars you can get at the
gas station.
Now Cliff, Two Cliff bars, aKit Kat and beef jerky.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
It's your breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
Yeah, I had my Cliff bars and my Kit Kat is melted in
my truck now and my jerky isstill in the backseat.
Jerky is good, though It'll goin the go bag.
I keep that go book bag forevery time I got anything.
There's probably actually Ishould have checked there.
There's probably a Red Bull inthere, and the jerky will just
get added to the collection.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
And the chocolate bar will be thrown out.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
The chocolate bar will be thrown out, unless it
stays in there until winter andit hardens it back up again.
Yeah, I reached down today andtouched it went.
Oh yeah, I forgot you werestill here.
You are definitely going to bea little soft, yeah.
So, that being said, it was a uh, it was.
It was a hell of a day.
It was a hell of a weekend.
It was a hell of a birthday.
Um, obviously, we spent most ofit.
(52:34):
My wife made a wonderful steakand potatoes and broccoli for
dinner tonight.
We had a nice steak dinner,bacon and eggs this morning for
breakfast.
That woman absolutely spoils meAn eight pack of wonderful
different beers from differentareas that I love.
That was my weekend in anutshell.
(52:59):
So if you want to hear what nextweekend is going to bring in
hopefully no major wreck likethat on the 401 will interfere
Be sure to tune into our liveshow.
August 25th, 6 PM, easternepisode 150 here on the toe in
life podcast.
You will get your opportunityto ask us any questions.
Um, we'll see.
(53:19):
We're still working ongiveaways and different things
that we can do.
We'll have more information aswe get closer or just the day of
you'll have to tune in to findout if you can't make our live.
You will hear a replay next weekanyways on the show, so be sure
to check it out, don't forget.
We're over on YouTube andFacebook, so you should be.
I gotta remember how we gottaplay around and get that all set
(53:40):
up.
I think we can like start alittle thing that starts about
half an hour before 6 o'clockand then the show will start,
hopefully very timely, around 6o'clock.
We'll have some fun, somequestions, some games, some
different things going on, soanything you want to add to that
G I'm going to bed.
Sounds good.
So, on behalf of myself and mywonderful, tired co-host, mr
(54:03):
Toman G, we thank you forjoining us for another episode
of the Toman Life Podcast and wecannot wait to see you for the
live show August 25th at 6 pm,eastern 3 pm on the West Coast.
Take care, toodles.
(54:26):
And he lets out the biggest yawnof life you got a big bee yawn
oh it's contagious, hopefully,you weren't driving when you
heard that, and you startedyawning too, because then you
might end up like this tractortrailer Upside down the rhubarb.
For every mile of road there'stwo miles of ditches.
(54:48):
Stay between them.
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