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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know she made a
whole video and lied and tried
to get ahead on the PR and allof her people are still coming
to me like minions.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
In the same way Riley
is.
I destroyed Blair.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Even Riley and I
destroyed Riley Gangs too in a
debate, and that's just our viewover here.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Michael Jones isn't
even doing that, like all of
them, are always trying to getahead of the narrative before
the episode even comes out yeah.
Try to spin it so peoplealready have a narrative when
they watch it.
It instead of letting peopleyou know what?
Speaker 1 (00:21):
that is true, because
michael knows blair did it,
michael did it riley's done it.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Oh, that's true, and
it's like if you, if you, are so
strong with your work, why doyou have to add that extra like
let's rile up our followers?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
just let your
followers, because they can't
debate for themselves, becausethey can't debate liberals the
way that they think they can,and conservatives well to be
fair.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
To be fair and this
is why I love your activism and
my activism name a liberal thatcould stand up to Ben Shapiro
the way that I have, because Idon't know None, because people
feel like it's a waste of timeto do so.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
And the thing is,
we're not here to change
people's minds.
We're here to give our talkingvoice and, let you be known,
we're still not going nowhere.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, and to show
that we're powerful as well, yes
, that we can stand up forourselves, that we can protect
ourselves, that we have theeducation and nuance to
understand what's happeningwithin society as Americans, as
trans people, and the nuance ofhow that all blends together.
That we don't have this oneissue of you and I are just
trans people coming into thespace.
You and I are Americans thathappen to be trans people, that
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happen to be living within thespace that we do.
You and I are Americans thathappen to be trans people, that
happen to be living within thespace that we do and we learn to
navigate it with so muchvisceral hate, especially from
people that are purely like.
To me, it all just feels reallygrifty.
Oh yeah, like like the Riley,like just even talking this out
right now.
It feels like if you talkenough shit about trans people,
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you're gonna get a platform, andmy question is why does that
bother people so much?
And I've had theories, and thisis where I get into my
allegedly zone.
I gotta say allegedly becauseI'm not trying to get sued.
Oh yeah, but let's talk about,let's talk about elon musk for
just a second, but I don't wantto do it too long, because we
know she likes to sue, askendrick, you know, did in the
super bowl oh my god, um elonright now has a baby mama on
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twitter.
That's a conservative.
Uh twitter something kind oflooks like a blair white kind of
somebody similar.
Just the same, it's all thesame that's her move no, I don't
know.
It just seems like there's afactory of them that are being
made, as long as her upper topmoves is all good and not saying
anything.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I've seen way
anything.
I just wonder if her upper toplip moves?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
basically, elon is
like rejecting any communication
about this child, any supportor anything.
That's going on right andthey've been trying to reach out
to him publicly through twitterbecause he's just ignoring all
of that.
Now, grimes, I'm just make sureI'm gonna add him allegedly
every time because I'm notgetting sued.
But grimes, listen, we gottakeep it on air yes, we do grimes
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is now reaching out publiclysaying, hey, your kid is having
a medical emergency, you need toreach out to me, I need to
speak to you.
And meanwhile he's like got achainsaw with glasses on
allegedly on ketamine at thec-pack thing and doing all of
this like god knows what stuffon stage and people just keep
going yay, elon.
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Meanwhile it's like this issomebody who's allegedly saying
something about traditionalvalues and family and all of
these things, and it's like Ilook at his life and I look at
my life.
I go, wait a second.
I've been with the same womanfor 20 years.
I practice all like if you wereto look at my life and just put
it against to what a Christianideology is, I match them all,
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every single one of them, exceptfor I'm trans.
That's it Like I help my fellowman, I help my neighbor, I do
my part to society, I contribute, like all of those things, but
I'm just trans.
So somehow that makes me thedevil.
Meanwhile, you've got a man whohas multiple baby mamas, is not
even taking care of his kids,using his kid as a prop on his
shoulder, so he doesn't get shotbecause it's like what are we
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doing there?
Allegedly let me add itallegedly there.
And at the same time I foundthis I've been always wondering
so curious about elon musk,because he's got all this money.
I'm like what is his interest?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
in trans people.
I think, because his child cameout as trans, that he has this
whole hatred thing.
But I also think elon musk isblackmailing donald trump.
I don't know about what, Idon't know about who yeah I
truly believe that he isblackmailing donald trump,
because when I I saw that videoof Elon and his son in the
office with Donald Trump andElon's son telling Donald Trump
you are not the president andshut up, or whatnot.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Clearly that's
something that Elon talks about
when Donald Trump rounds.
I don't agree with Trump, right, but the optics of that as an
American to see the ResoluteDesk be put into that position,
that is so un-American on somany levels.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, elon is not
from America, that's the thing.
He's an immigrant.
And ironically, they're tryingto deport all these immigrants
from America, from the country,and it's like donald trump's
wife needs to go because she'san immigrant.
Elon must needs to go becausehe's an immigrant.
So I mean, like it doesn'toxymoron of it all, like the
contradictory of it all, youknow what I mean, but what's his
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obsession with trans people?
I really genuinely think,because his child came out as
trans.
He's never been able to getover it and, like laverne cox
said, they're focusing on thewrong one percent of the
population.
They should be focusing onthese billionaires and, like
laverne said, trans people arenot the reason why your eggs are
high, your gas is high, whygroceries are so high, like you
know what I mean, like we're notthe reason, but I think that
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they're trying to steamroll andgaslight and smoke screen this
whole trans um issue, yeah, andtrying to make it seem like
we're such a problem to theAmerican people because they're
doing a lot of things behind thescenes that they're going to
eventually get caught.
And we, as trans people, weknow we're resilient but we're
also tired.
It's exhausting, it's tired andwe have to make space for that.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
We've got a
billionaire who again I'm going
to say this on, I'm going to addthe allegedlys there, but like
what I understand also there'smore trans lore to Elon is, I
guess Chelsea Manning, which islike the whistleblower from a
little while ago, ended uptaking Grimes from Elon, so like
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.
So Grimes is Elon's child,right?
No, no, no, Grimes is Elon's exand ex, and you know the kid
that said the thing at the desk.
That's their kid oh right so oh,chelsea's with her so my thing
is is like I think people arenot realizing that this is a man
who is a bitter ex with a lotof money yeah, a lot like.
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Imagine, imagine your worst ex,your worst ex that you could
ever think of, has so much money.
It is unfathomable.
They can change the entire waythe world works because of the
influence that it comes with,and that's where I think the
focus of trans comes.
I think that because he got hisheart broken because a trans
woman took his girl and not onlythat, allegedly, I'm gonna add
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that allegedly uh, his daughteris trans the combination of
those two things, instead of himactually maturely processing
what was going on in his life,he's acting like a giant man
child.
And because he has all thismoney to support his behavior
and he's got sycophants andpeople that need money in their
pockets too, it's now createdthis, like you said, birds of a
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feather with riley gaines, andthey all kind of like worked
together, and it's like you hadto get all of these people
together to try to take apartthe heart of america and what it
means to be an american,because this is not what it
means to be an American, becausethis is not what it means to be
an American.
To be an American means tosupport one another, to innovate
, to create, to support.
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There's so many layers to beingan American.
It's not about creating thishate narrative and taking down
trans people.
And you can look at the historyof the Nazis in 1933 and the
book burning of MagnusHirschfeld, and that was the
first book.
Burning was trans books andit's all parallel to today and
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we've got someone who's got animmense amount of money and I
just I really wish Elon Muskwould stop doing what he's doing
and work on whatever hispersonal stuff is and stop
attacking trans people in theway that he is.
Whatever's going on with hiskid or whatever is going on with
his ex partner is not mycommunity's responsibility,
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because he doesn't have thematurity to understand that his
situation didn't go right forhim because he didn't navigate
it right and it just feels likethis big projection of this
person who's like this angry ex,doing everything they can to
hurt the people that he used tosay I love you to yeah, but
let's remember we as a transcommunity are strong, we're
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powerful, we can withheld, wecan withstand anything.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Um, it's interesting
how people love to bring us up
in conversation, especially whenwe're not in the room, because
it's always an easy flex forother people when they don't
know what the hell they'retalking about.
I think and I also need toaddress this, because these
trans conservative are alsogetting on my nerves these days,
cause during the whole debatethey're just like y'all make
trans people look bad.
(09:14):
First of all, anybody who goeson a Jubilee debate is freaking
powerful, because it's a lot.
You really don't know whatyou're walking into, and so I
think trans conservatives, someof our trans sisters, who want
to be conservative which is whyI don't understand that's a
whole oxymoron.
But that's your prerogative ifyou want to be miserable and
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that that's your business.
No judgment, because not alltrans conservatives are bad.
There are some that want tolike, that are more moderate,
that want to reach across theaisle yeah if you can't go on a
jubilee debate and go on thereyourself and debate.
You have no room to criticizethe trans girls that go on there
.
Instead, why don't you look atyour sisters, hit them up and
say first of all, are you okay?
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And then give your opinion oryour view?
I can understand that Some ofy'all just want to be loud,
obnoxious and rude and ignorantjust because you can.
I got tagged in a post by thistrans woman and she's beautiful,
she's an OnlyFans girl andthere's nothing wrong with that,
and she was just going on arant talking about some.
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Y'all made our community lookbad.
Stop going on Jubilee makingthem look bad.
Well, girl, first of all, likeI said, get information before
you post.
You know nothing about the why.
Optics, to me, are an illusionbecause you don't know the why.
If you're not asking the whywhen you're looking at an optic,
you're not getting the fullstory, and I think a lot of
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these girls look at theseJubilee videos and they're so
quick to have an opinion, butyou don't ever do research.
You just want your followers.
You want to make your littlecontent, get your little
followers up, and you soundstupid in my view when you do
that.
I don't have to answer toanybody on the why I go on these
certain platforms.
I don't have to, I choose toand I'm going to continue to do
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it because a lot of y'all thatare criticizing can't do what I
do, and I think we need to wakenup that talking point for real
when you see us going againstBen Shapiro and Riley Gaines and
Pierce Morgan and all thesepeople.
One yes is to build exposure astrans people because, let's be
clear, we're under a Trumpadministration and trans voices
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are now more crucial more thanever.
So us going on these platformsis so important because our
visibility needs to still beabove water, because Trump is
trying to take it obviously.
So don't get mad at us.
Get mad at the game that hasbeen played and that has been
put into place that's trying toseparate you and I when there
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should not be a separation.
I am not going to apologize forgoing on camera and being me.
Y'all accuse me of beingemotionally charged.
I'm just emotionally passionatebecause I'm an empathetic
person and I care.
I've always been like that.
What do?
you expect from your formatswhen this is happening.
I've always been like that, butthe only problem is I don't
conform to optics and the thingis I'm a very passionate person.
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Y'all have not seen me beemotionally charged yet.
I think the CNN protest wasprobably the most emotionally
charged I was.
I think I really wasemotionally charged and I'm
nothing like that, really wasemotionally charged and I'm
nothing like that.
I'm just very passionate andyou're not going to disrespect
me Because the thing is I knowwho I am and I'm confident in
what I exuberate.
Y'all always say, oh, you didn'tbring anything good to the
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table.
Y'all don't understand what I'msaying because you don't have
the intellectual capacity tounderstand what I'm saying.
Pierce and Riley did not havethe intellectual capacity to
understand that black womencannot be racist to white women.
So if you can't understand thatbasic truth, then I'm sorry we
can't have a conversation.
I'm sorry, why waste my timeand I think a lot of y'all are
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just upset and y'all just wantto be keyboard bullies.
But the thing is you can'tbully me.
I love doing this work.
I want to continue going onmore of these platforms and I'm
going to make it happen.
The View I'm coming for you onABC and Good Morning America.
I'm coming for all cablemorning news shows.
What's up?
Riley Gaines is on Fox Newsbooty clapping over there
talking about me making thesevideos.
(13:15):
Why can't I go on the moreliberal ones, msnbc, hello.
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