March 28, 2025 • 10 mins
Shane and Blossom discuss their experiences confronting conservative media figures and fighting for equal rights in a political landscape that often dehumanizes transgender Americans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pierce is just a mess .
He's a fascist, he's a racist.
But the thing about me is I hadto look at face to face and
face off with it.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm not scared like that and people need to give you
flowers for that.
Thank you, because it's likepeople go into situations
especially you're doing it forthe first time with truly no
support, sometimes not even fromyour own community, because we
don't really have much even tosupport each other.
Yes, so there's this pressurecooker feeling that every trans
(00:29):
representation needs to beabsolutely perfect because of
this, that and the other.
Meanwhile, they're still sayingand doing all the things when
we have been following the rules.
Only you and I recently havereally stepped out with the
podcast in the way that we have,because we saw the need that
the conservative side had apodcast and had that energy and
all of those parts of theinternet that the liberal side
(00:51):
wasn't even willing to touch.
Like you and I, we understandwhat it's like to be a
blue-collar worker.
We know what it's like to dealwith uh, the economy in the way
that it is as an american inthis country and the effects of
the tax laws, the effects of thestatus of us being trans, with
the healthcare and stuff that wenavigate.
We have to deal with so muchmore than the average cis person
(01:14):
, which another thing thatpissed me off is when Pierce
Moore was like we don't use thatlanguage.
It's like, of course you don'tuse that language because you
have this idea that the only wayto be is your way.
And the thing that's soupsetting is me as a trans
person, and I feel like you as atrans person, I don't
necessarily like do I want nazisaround?
(01:34):
No, but if you know what, ifthere's people that have an
ideology that I don't agree with, that, that they think this,
that and the, I truly don't care, because I want to have mine
and I want us to coexist in asafe way.
That is all that trans peoplewant to do, because there's this
agenda that it's like we'retrying to create this and we're
trying to do that and we'retrying to.
(01:56):
It has nothing to do withanything other than I want to
exist on this planet as anAmerican, in this country, and
have the same rights to go intothe DMV and getting my driver's
license, to be able to put ameal on the table for my family,
to be able to go on vacations,be able to be with my friends
(02:16):
and explore and life, love,pursuit of happiness, in the
same way that someone that hatesme wants to experience the
world.
It's no different and thedifference between their world
and my world is in my world theystill exist.
In their world I don't exist,and and it's so.
It just.
It's so confusing to me howthey can't see that we as a
(02:41):
people are, you know, like whenwe've added pronouns to emails
and we're creating more stuff.
When you get hired to a new joband there's a specific
transgender training that's onthere that the employees have to
learn.
I've been enrolled in a new jobrecently and there was a trans
training and I was like, wow,this is because of the work that
(03:02):
is done and when I go into thatworkspace I feel safer.
I feel like I just get to bethe average American person that
everyone else gets to be, andthat has always been my personal
journey.
I just wanted to be an averageJoe.
The only reason why I got intopolitics and even social media
and all of this stuff is becauseI felt like I was forced to as
(03:24):
a trans person, because I didn'tsee somebody saying the things
that I felt and saw.
And that's the same way why yougot into the activism and do it
the way that you do is becauseyou don't see anybody standing
up against this horrific,horrific rhetoric.
It's like we're just standingthere like doormats taking it
and I know that I've seen theheart of this community and many
(03:47):
communities on the left sidehas so much fight, so much
energy, so much resources and wehave been all convinced to
fight each other because ofwhatever sector that we are in,
and don't realize that the gamehas been played, that the
republic Republicans havecreated this narrative that we
can't find commonality.
Because I can find commonalityeven with the straightest, most
(04:11):
problematic man.
I can find common ground withhim in some way, shape or form.
The answer is why can't youfind common ground and see me as
human too?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Mm, hmm that was wonderful, and so I think riley
made a video about me.
Here's the thing.
So after we made the episodethat's more than she went
station she went to tiktok y'alland she made this video about
me.
She misgendered me in itbecause she's a, she's a, she's
(04:42):
a fucking moron.
You know she's.
It is what it is, she's a damnfool as you she's a damn fool.
She's a damn fool, um, and it'sfunny because she deleted the
video.
But of course y'all don't playwith the screen record button
and me, because you know I will.
Yeah, I'm a research like and Ithink we have that video y'all
let's take out what miss rileyhad to say about deleted this
(05:05):
video.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So I just said piers morgan's show uncensored, which
shout out peers.
I think peers approaches thingsvery logically, very rationally
.
We agree on a lot, we disagreeon some, but I just did his show
and, like the debate forum witha trans activist by the name of
blossom, which, if you saw anyof Michael Knowles' videos that
(05:28):
have circulated with the Jubileedebate style forum, I think
there was 30 trans activistssurrounded by Michael Knowles.
They get to raise their redflag if they want in and a
chance to debate him.
Michael did amazing.
By the way, blossom, the transactivist I just debated on Piers
, was the large African-Americanman who identifies as a woman
(05:50):
in some of these clips that thepast 30 minute debate we just
had was the most unhinged,absurd thing I have ever been a
part of in my entire life.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Before you jump in, okay, because I have one thing I
want to say.
She wouldn't have a career ifit wasn't for trans people.
Hold on, wait for the thought.
She wouldn't have a career ifit wasn't for trans people.
Her whole career is going onthe internet crying about fifth
place, basically destroying theAmerican Constitution and
(06:24):
working with the people to dothat because she was too
insecure to admit she wasn't agood athlete.
I'm sorry.
I grew up as an athlete, playingmultiple sports and the only
reason why I didn't continue isbecause I was trans, cause I
would knew I would have to dealwith women like her, because,
again, we have the whole transmale side of this never being
discussed.
I used to be able to shoot athalf court and I'm blind.
(06:46):
I did it without glasses on.
I could have gone to the WNBAand had contracts and all of
these things.
I'm tall.
I didn't do any of that because, as I went through puberty and
dealt with the socialramifications of what it was to
be who I am as a big bitch, assome people want to say on the
internet I created a situationfor myself to not know where to
(07:10):
go in sports, even though Itrained like blossom.
I used to wake up.
I had a basketball court in mybackyard as a little kid, at
like six years old, and I wasthat kid.
I was going to be a prodigy.
People like I was at one point,like I was on this team for the
city.
It was called the looney tunes.
Shout out to the looney tunes.
We won the championship, secondplace, oh shit.
(07:30):
And I was like two feet tallerthan everybody on my team
because I'm a.
I'm a big, big bitch.
Let's be real.
And navigating people like rileyin sports.
People like her would doanything in her possibility to
take down people like me, nomatter how much.
I mean, I trained like I wouldwake up at 6 am and shoot
(07:53):
basketballs and then go toschool and then, like, carried
my basketball all around and Iended up getting into music
because I couldn't be in sportsanymore because of people like
Riley.
Because it's not aboutprotecting women.
It's about this ideology of,like white supremacy and a woman
has to look like Riley in orderto be validated, and even a
(08:15):
woman looking like Riley canstill be invalidated by a man
whenever he pleases.
In the patriarchal system thatshe is upholding, she's putting
herself at risk Instead ofactually empowering all humans.
All she's doing is turning andgoing oh, white supremacy,
here's a check and completelywriting off the backs of trans
(08:37):
people, because realize, if shenever, ever, ever competed
against a trans person, wewouldn't know her name that's
interesting we wouldn't know hername yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So thank you so much for saying that, shane.
You know, when I look at thatvideo, um, all I see is someone
with low self-esteem, lowconfidence, insecurity, because
she could not compete with mydebate points.
She goes to my physicalappearance and I think most
conservatives they always dothat where they try to misgender
(09:08):
me.
They're like, oh, you're a man,look at that wig on Because
they pull a Blair White tactic.
That's a Blair White tactic andthe thing is my intellect is
totally unmatched to theirideology.
I think all I see is someonewho was just projecting their
own insecurities because theycould not debate me.
(09:29):
When I came through and I gavestatistics about the NCAA and
the number of athletes and theratio to that, she had nothing.
Yeah, because you went to theWhite House, you saw Donald
Trump sign an executive orderfor less than 10 trans people.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
That now all women are subject to genital testing.
Pierce is just a mess .
He's a fascist, he's a racist.
But the thing about me is I hadto look at face to face and
face off with it.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm not scared like that and people need to give you
flowers for that.
Thank you, because it's likepeople go into situations
especially you're doing it forthe first time with truly no
support, sometimes not even fromyour own community, because we
don't really have much even tosupport each other.
Yes, so there's this pressurecooker feeling that every trans
(00:29):
representation needs to beabsolutely perfect because of
this, that and the other.
Meanwhile, they're still sayingand doing all the things when
we have been following the rules.
Only you and I recently havereally stepped out with the
podcast in the way that we have,because we saw the need that
the conservative side had apodcast and had that energy and
all of those parts of theinternet that the liberal side
(00:51):
wasn't even willing to touch.
Like you and I, we understandwhat it's like to be a
blue-collar worker.
We know what it's like to dealwith uh, the economy in the way
that it is as an american inthis country and the effects of
the tax laws, the effects of thestatus of us being trans, with
the healthcare and stuff that wenavigate.
We have to deal with so muchmore than the average cis person
(01:14):
, which another thing thatpissed me off is when Pierce
Moore was like we don't use thatlanguage.
It's like, of course you don'tuse that language because you
have this idea that the only wayto be is your way.
And the thing that's soupsetting is me as a trans
person, and I feel like you as atrans person, I don't
necessarily like do I want nazisaround?
(01:34):
No, but if you know what, ifthere's people that have an
ideology that I don't agree with, that, that they think this,
that and the, I truly don't care, because I want to have mine
and I want us to coexist in asafe way.
That is all that trans peoplewant to do, because there's this
agenda that it's like we'retrying to create this and we're
trying to do that and we'retrying to.
(01:56):
It has nothing to do withanything other than I want to
exist on this planet as anAmerican, in this country, and
have the same rights to go intothe DMV and getting my driver's
license, to be able to put ameal on the table for my family,
to be able to go on vacations,be able to be with my friends
(02:16):
and explore and life, love,pursuit of happiness, in the
same way that someone that hatesme wants to experience the
world.
It's no different and thedifference between their world
and my world is in my world theystill exist.
In their world I don't exist,and and it's so.
It just.
It's so confusing to me howthey can't see that we as a
(02:41):
people are, you know, like whenwe've added pronouns to emails
and we're creating more stuff.
When you get hired to a new joband there's a specific
transgender training that's onthere that the employees have to
learn.
I've been enrolled in a new jobrecently and there was a trans
training and I was like, wow,this is because of the work that
(03:02):
is done and when I go into thatworkspace I feel safer.
I feel like I just get to bethe average American person that
everyone else gets to be, andthat has always been my personal
journey.
I just wanted to be an averageJoe.
The only reason why I got intopolitics and even social media
and all of this stuff is becauseI felt like I was forced to as
(03:24):
a trans person, because I didn'tsee somebody saying the things
that I felt and saw.
And that's the same way why yougot into the activism and do it
the way that you do is becauseyou don't see anybody standing
up against this horrific,horrific rhetoric.
It's like we're just standingthere like doormats taking it
and I know that I've seen theheart of this community and many
(03:47):
communities on the left sidehas so much fight, so much
energy, so much resources and wehave been all convinced to
fight each other because ofwhatever sector that we are in,
and don't realize that the gamehas been played, that the
republic Republicans havecreated this narrative that we
can't find commonality.
Because I can find commonalityeven with the straightest, most
(04:11):
problematic man.
I can find common ground withhim in some way, shape or form.
The answer is why can't youfind common ground and see me as
human too?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Mm, hmm that was wonderful, and so I think riley
made a video about me.
Here's the thing.
So after we made the episodethat's more than she went
station she went to tiktok y'alland she made this video about
me.
She misgendered me in itbecause she's a, she's a, she's
(04:42):
a fucking moron.
You know she's.
It is what it is, she's a damnfool as you she's a damn fool.
She's a damn fool, um, and it'sfunny because she deleted the
video.
But of course y'all don't playwith the screen record button
and me, because you know I will.
Yeah, I'm a research like and Ithink we have that video y'all
let's take out what miss rileyhad to say about deleted this
(05:05):
video.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So I just said piers morgan's show uncensored, which
shout out peers.
I think peers approaches thingsvery logically, very rationally
.
We agree on a lot, we disagreeon some, but I just did his show
and, like the debate forum witha trans activist by the name of
blossom, which, if you saw anyof Michael Knowles' videos that
(05:28):
have circulated with the Jubileedebate style forum, I think
there was 30 trans activistssurrounded by Michael Knowles.
They get to raise their redflag if they want in and a
chance to debate him.
Michael did amazing.
By the way, blossom, the transactivist I just debated on Piers
, was the large African-Americanman who identifies as a woman
(05:50):
in some of these clips that thepast 30 minute debate we just
had was the most unhinged,absurd thing I have ever been a
part of in my entire life.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Before you jump in, okay, because I have one thing I
want to say.
She wouldn't have a career ifit wasn't for trans people.
Hold on, wait for the thought.
She wouldn't have a career ifit wasn't for trans people.
Her whole career is going onthe internet crying about fifth
place, basically destroying theAmerican Constitution and
(06:24):
working with the people to dothat because she was too
insecure to admit she wasn't agood athlete.
I'm sorry.
I grew up as an athlete, playingmultiple sports and the only
reason why I didn't continue isbecause I was trans, cause I
would knew I would have to dealwith women like her, because,
again, we have the whole transmale side of this never being
discussed.
I used to be able to shoot athalf court and I'm blind.
(06:46):
I did it without glasses on.
I could have gone to the WNBAand had contracts and all of
these things.
I'm tall.
I didn't do any of that because, as I went through puberty and
dealt with the socialramifications of what it was to
be who I am as a big bitch, assome people want to say on the
internet I created a situationfor myself to not know where to
(07:10):
go in sports, even though Itrained like blossom.
I used to wake up.
I had a basketball court in mybackyard as a little kid, at
like six years old, and I wasthat kid.
I was going to be a prodigy.
People like I was at one point,like I was on this team for the
city.
It was called the looney tunes.
Shout out to the looney tunes.
We won the championship, secondplace, oh shit.
(07:30):
And I was like two feet tallerthan everybody on my team
because I'm a.
I'm a big, big bitch.
Let's be real.
And navigating people like rileyin sports.
People like her would doanything in her possibility to
take down people like me, nomatter how much.
I mean, I trained like I wouldwake up at 6 am and shoot
(07:53):
basketballs and then go toschool and then, like, carried
my basketball all around and Iended up getting into music
because I couldn't be in sportsanymore because of people like
Riley.
Because it's not aboutprotecting women.
It's about this ideology of,like white supremacy and a woman
has to look like Riley in orderto be validated, and even a
(08:15):
woman looking like Riley canstill be invalidated by a man
whenever he pleases.
In the patriarchal system thatshe is upholding, she's putting
herself at risk Instead ofactually empowering all humans.
All she's doing is turning andgoing oh, white supremacy,
here's a check and completelywriting off the backs of trans
(08:37):
people, because realize, if shenever, ever, ever competed
against a trans person, wewouldn't know her name that's
interesting we wouldn't know hername yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
So thank you so much for saying that, shane.
You know, when I look at thatvideo, um, all I see is someone
with low self-esteem, lowconfidence, insecurity, because
she could not compete with mydebate points.
She goes to my physicalappearance and I think most
conservatives they always dothat where they try to misgender
(09:08):
me.
They're like, oh, you're a man,look at that wig on Because
they pull a Blair White tactic.
That's a Blair White tactic andthe thing is my intellect is
totally unmatched to theirideology.
I think all I see is someonewho was just projecting their
own insecurities because theycould not debate me.
(09:29):
When I came through and I gavestatistics about the NCAA and
the number of athletes and theratio to that, she had nothing.
Yeah, because you went to theWhite House, you saw Donald
Trump sign an executive orderfor less than 10 trans people.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
That now all women are subject to genital testing.
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