March 12, 2025 • 9 mins
Political figures and media personalities are weaponizing marginalized identities as distractions from their lack of substantive policies on economic issues, healthcare, and housing.
The targeting of transgender people has become a lucrative industry for commentators who profit from creating culture war debates while avoiding accountability for real harm.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
there is, like someone like me could basically
be erased by not even havingaccess to that.
And it's this crazy politicalspirit.
Because, you know, you've gotpeople that are like debating my
life for sport and making moneyand grifting off it, like amala
, like the blair whites, likethe buck, like ben shapiro, like
matt walsh, like all thesepeople that are causing all this
(00:20):
intersectional harm that reallyexperience no consequences.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
They just make money on, I hope and they just don't
have the intellectual capacityto even have a conversation
about it like, or the economylike that's.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The other thing, too is like what did they spend?
How much money?
What was it like?
Almost two billion dollars inadvertisement through the trump
thing against just trans people,when you could have like.
So when does the economy matter?
When?
And it's like this constantdehumanization that we feel and
and and.
It's like we're being used forthis, that and the other, to
(00:56):
constantly fight each other, andit all comes back down to that
corporate creed because, liketrans people are such a like
minority.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
One percent that have been created into such a
massive issue just because theyknow that it is upsetting and
it's a hot button and xenophobicissue and it's like taking your
identity and the life that youhave to live on a daily basis
and using it as a form ofentertainment and as a way to
get like extremist rhetoricpushed more.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, that's because, literally, they have no policy
for homelessness, they have nopolicy for the economy, they
have no policy to make groceriescheaper, they have no policy to
help anyone out hey, that's nottrue.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
They have concepts of a plan and they just learned
about what tariffs are it's likethey're not president right now
.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They, they want they have nothing to help people out.
So what they do is they take asmall piece of a community to
say let's put this communityface forward for the next couple
years until we can get out andjust do all this stuff behind
the scenes.
And by the time they figure outthat we're done, it's already
(02:14):
too late.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
It's true, they're arguing over 1% of the
population, while so many peoplein the population are suffering
due to like-.
Economic impact Issues thatshould be so bipartisan because
they know that if they had tofight on those issues they would
lose exactly so they go forextreme stuff.
It's used as a detraction.
Your identity has become a redherring and that's such bullshit
(02:36):
.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's just bullshit yeah, and then the um, I was
actually breaking down somethingfor someone arguing with
someone in some comments and andI was like okay.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I've tried so hard not to I had to because it was
just so stupid.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I was like, okay, let's break this down.
So if you deport 30% of yourworkforce, that means your
farmhands, your builders, plusyou add on tariffs to products
that you take home, likeelectronics, food, anything
imported, like anything, metals,precious metals that go into
(03:11):
your materials, because it wouldtake years for us to produce
that stuff here.
So by the time the Trumpadministration ends, you
wouldn't even have that stuffstill.
If we take all that and thencouple that with the fact that
now women are dying in Texasbecause they have such strict
abortion acts, and then OBGYNsare leaving Texas yeah.
(03:34):
And then the fact that you guysdon't want to fund the schools
anymore.
You take all that, so you wantto cripple the education system,
make people's children StupidExactly, it's their voting base
that they're trying to create,because if you, what is the
statistics?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
If you took out the non-college educated whites, the
election would have lookedcompletely different.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Exactly so they're making, they're trying to make
people dumb they don't want toteach them about critical race
theory.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
They don't want to teach them about Because
critical race theory would makepeople more smart.
They don't want to tell themthe truth.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
So would make people more smart.
They don't want to tell themthe truth, so imagine Well,
because grandma was actuallythrowing the rocks back in the
day.
They don't want to get caughtwith the photo Like that's not
real, Like the generation.
It's only been like 60 yearssince all of this has happened,
so there are people that arealive today.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I mean the KKK.
Burned a cross on mygrandmother's lawn when she was
11 years old and she's like veryalive 11 years old, and she's
like very alive Arthritic, butalive.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I was born in a town that was only 15 minutes away
from the area where they foundEmmett Till's body in
Mississippi.
So, like you know, we're onlyone or two generations removed
from all of that.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
But that's why they put the photos in black and
white.
That's why they don't want toteach it in school.
It happened a very long timeago.
None of that stuff is stillhere.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
But I tell people, imagine if Germany hadn't
learned from their past.
You cannot get to your futurewithout tackling your past.
Yes, in the past America wasvery racist.
Right now you have people whoare very racist because they
haven't learned anything from it.
You're not teaching them tolearn from it.
You're trying to cover it upand say it never happened.
(05:10):
But I'm sorry, the survivorsare here, they know better.
And then, on the top of the onwhat I was arguing in the
comments too, I was like youtake all that 30% of your
workforce plus tariffs, you'renot going to be able to afford a
lot of things.
Your housing is going to be inthe gutter and then all the
stuff you thought you voted for.
(05:30):
Like you said, trump's going toend the war.
What war is this man going toend?
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
That's generational of palestinian israel for a long
generations which has alreadybeen accelerated yeah, yeah it
sounds like erasured while I'mhearing, you know, hearing it
sounds like a pure erasurebecause, like, if you take
something out or someone out ofsomething, you don't have to
include them in, right.
So because I'm thinking as agay person, black, cisgendered
(05:57):
male I'm you know, I'm listeningto all I'm like okay, because I
have a different.
I have the same dog in a fightbecause, you know, but I have a
different fight, because I'mlike I look at things a little
bit differently.
But I'm like it sounds likeerasure.
I'm like that's what it is.
If you say, oh, you're not aperson, that you're not this,
then you, it's, it's carteblanche to say that.
Then there are others, they'reover here, they're not part of
us.
I mean, I think the biggestthing for trump supporters
(06:19):
specifically, they will reapwhat they sow.
We all know that.
I think the problem is theythink that they are rich and
white and untouchable well,because they want to be correct,
so they vote with that yes youhave an opportunity to join us
as the rich white untouchables.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
All you have to do is be our pawns.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
But they don't give a fuck about you.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's's so scary because there are Latinos that
voted for Trump you know,without realizing, that their
own families are going to bedeported, potentially.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Because they told them that it was criminals only,
and now they're finding outwhat natural born citizen like.
They're understanding it asit's happening in real time.
The same thing with tariffsthey had no clue what tariffs
were, but you know what,honestly, I feel like, okay, the
tariff thing is one thing.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I understand, like not understanding international
trade laws, but I don't thinkthat Trump has been very
secretive about how he feelsabout immigrants and all you
really have to do is like openTwitter or open Instagram to get
a basic idea of his rhetoric onimmigrants and if you still
(07:23):
couldn't figure that out likethat's sad.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
No more x.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
No more x I think it was just about blue sky.
Right I was thinking I felt likea lot of it, I refuse to call
it I think it had a lot to dowith the economy, because you
know people coming over to thiscountry and trying to make a
better life for themselves andfor me, latinos.
For Trump sounds like anoxymoron For me, but then I also
(07:45):
.
You know that's one group ofpeople.
I'm pissed at white women.
I'm also pissed at trans peoplewho talk so much stuff about
Palestine, as they should have,but then talked about
withdrawing or withholding theirvote for Kamala and criticizing
her for things that I don'tthink she 100 could control,
because the reality of it iswe're on a two-party system and
(08:07):
all we have is kamala harris anddonald trump.
Now I have said on this podcastbefore in one of our previous
episodes you can have yourcriticism of kamala, I don't
care, but go show up and vote,please go vote, because at least
with kamala and the wholesituation around palestine, that
could be worked on.
But if you were somebody thatcriticized her and then you did
(08:29):
not go to the polls and vote andthen you told your fan base to
not go vote, I want to sincerelygive you a big f.
You do?
You think don Donald Trump isgoing to help the Palestinian
people?
Laughable, that is a joke.
there is, like someone like me could basically
be erased by not even havingaccess to that.
And it's this crazy politicalspirit.
Because, you know, you've gotpeople that are like debating my
life for sport and making moneyand grifting off it, like amala
, like the blair whites, likethe buck, like ben shapiro, like
matt walsh, like all thesepeople that are causing all this
(00:20):
intersectional harm that reallyexperience no consequences.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
They just make money on, I hope and they just don't
have the intellectual capacityto even have a conversation
about it like, or the economylike that's.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The other thing, too is like what did they spend?
How much money?
What was it like?
Almost two billion dollars inadvertisement through the trump
thing against just trans people,when you could have like.
So when does the economy matter?
When?
And it's like this constantdehumanization that we feel and
and and.
It's like we're being used forthis, that and the other, to
(00:56):
constantly fight each other, andit all comes back down to that
corporate creed because, liketrans people are such a like
minority.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
One percent that have been created into such a
massive issue just because theyknow that it is upsetting and
it's a hot button and xenophobicissue and it's like taking your
identity and the life that youhave to live on a daily basis
and using it as a form ofentertainment and as a way to
get like extremist rhetoricpushed more.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, that's because, literally, they have no policy
for homelessness, they have nopolicy for the economy, they
have no policy to make groceriescheaper, they have no policy to
help anyone out hey, that's nottrue.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
They have concepts of a plan and they just learned
about what tariffs are it's likethey're not president right now
.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
They, they want they have nothing to help people out.
So what they do is they take asmall piece of a community to
say let's put this communityface forward for the next couple
years until we can get out andjust do all this stuff behind
the scenes.
And by the time they figure outthat we're done, it's already
(02:14):
too late.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
It's true, they're arguing over 1% of the
population, while so many peoplein the population are suffering
due to like-.
Economic impact Issues thatshould be so bipartisan because
they know that if they had tofight on those issues they would
lose exactly so they go forextreme stuff.
It's used as a detraction.
Your identity has become a redherring and that's such bullshit
(02:36):
.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That's just bullshit yeah, and then the um, I was
actually breaking down somethingfor someone arguing with
someone in some comments and andI was like okay.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I've tried so hard not to I had to because it was
just so stupid.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I was like, okay, let's break this down.
So if you deport 30% of yourworkforce, that means your
farmhands, your builders, plusyou add on tariffs to products
that you take home, likeelectronics, food, anything
imported, like anything, metals,precious metals that go into
(03:11):
your materials, because it wouldtake years for us to produce
that stuff here.
So by the time the Trumpadministration ends, you
wouldn't even have that stuffstill.
If we take all that and thencouple that with the fact that
now women are dying in Texasbecause they have such strict
abortion acts, and then OBGYNsare leaving Texas yeah.
(03:34):
And then the fact that you guysdon't want to fund the schools
anymore.
You take all that, so you wantto cripple the education system,
make people's children StupidExactly, it's their voting base
that they're trying to create,because if you, what is the
statistics?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
If you took out the non-college educated whites, the
election would have lookedcompletely different.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Exactly so they're making, they're trying to make
people dumb they don't want toteach them about critical race
theory.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
They don't want to teach them about Because
critical race theory would makepeople more smart.
They don't want to tell themthe truth.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
So would make people more smart.
They don't want to tell themthe truth, so imagine Well,
because grandma was actuallythrowing the rocks back in the
day.
They don't want to get caughtwith the photo Like that's not
real, Like the generation.
It's only been like 60 yearssince all of this has happened,
so there are people that arealive today.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I mean the KKK.
Burned a cross on mygrandmother's lawn when she was
11 years old and she's like veryalive 11 years old, and she's
like very alive Arthritic, butalive.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
I was born in a town that was only 15 minutes away
from the area where they foundEmmett Till's body in
Mississippi.
So, like you know, we're onlyone or two generations removed
from all of that.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
But that's why they put the photos in black and
white.
That's why they don't want toteach it in school.
It happened a very long timeago.
None of that stuff is stillhere.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
But I tell people, imagine if Germany hadn't
learned from their past.
You cannot get to your futurewithout tackling your past.
Yes, in the past America wasvery racist.
Right now you have people whoare very racist because they
haven't learned anything from it.
You're not teaching them tolearn from it.
You're trying to cover it upand say it never happened.
(05:10):
But I'm sorry, the survivorsare here, they know better.
And then, on the top of the onwhat I was arguing in the
comments too, I was like youtake all that 30% of your
workforce plus tariffs, you'renot going to be able to afford a
lot of things.
Your housing is going to be inthe gutter and then all the
stuff you thought you voted for.
(05:30):
Like you said, trump's going toend the war.
What war is this man going toend?
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
That's generational of palestinian israel for a long
generations which has alreadybeen accelerated yeah, yeah it
sounds like erasured while I'mhearing, you know, hearing it
sounds like a pure erasurebecause, like, if you take
something out or someone out ofsomething, you don't have to
include them in, right.
So because I'm thinking as agay person, black, cisgendered
(05:57):
male I'm you know, I'm listeningto all I'm like okay, because I
have a different.
I have the same dog in a fightbecause, you know, but I have a
different fight, because I'mlike I look at things a little
bit differently.
But I'm like it sounds likeerasure.
I'm like that's what it is.
If you say, oh, you're not aperson, that you're not this,
then you, it's, it's carteblanche to say that.
Then there are others, they'reover here, they're not part of
us.
I mean, I think the biggestthing for trump supporters
(06:19):
specifically, they will reapwhat they sow.
We all know that.
I think the problem is theythink that they are rich and
white and untouchable well,because they want to be correct,
so they vote with that yes youhave an opportunity to join us
as the rich white untouchables.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
All you have to do is be our pawns.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
But they don't give a fuck about you.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's's so scary because there are Latinos that
voted for Trump you know,without realizing, that their
own families are going to bedeported, potentially.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Because they told them that it was criminals only,
and now they're finding outwhat natural born citizen like.
They're understanding it asit's happening in real time.
The same thing with tariffsthey had no clue what tariffs
were, but you know what,honestly, I feel like, okay, the
tariff thing is one thing.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I understand, like not understanding international
trade laws, but I don't thinkthat Trump has been very
secretive about how he feelsabout immigrants and all you
really have to do is like openTwitter or open Instagram to get
a basic idea of his rhetoric onimmigrants and if you still
(07:23):
couldn't figure that out likethat's sad.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
No more x.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
No more x I think it was just about blue sky.
Right I was thinking I felt likea lot of it, I refuse to call
it I think it had a lot to dowith the economy, because you
know people coming over to thiscountry and trying to make a
better life for themselves andfor me, latinos.
For Trump sounds like anoxymoron For me, but then I also
(07:45):
.
You know that's one group ofpeople.
I'm pissed at white women.
I'm also pissed at trans peoplewho talk so much stuff about
Palestine, as they should have,but then talked about
withdrawing or withholding theirvote for Kamala and criticizing
her for things that I don'tthink she 100 could control,
because the reality of it iswe're on a two-party system and
(08:07):
all we have is kamala harris anddonald trump.
Now I have said on this podcastbefore in one of our previous
episodes you can have yourcriticism of kamala, I don't
care, but go show up and vote,please go vote, because at least
with kamala and the wholesituation around palestine, that
could be worked on.
But if you were somebody thatcriticized her and then you did
(08:29):
not go to the polls and vote andthen you told your fan base to
not go vote, I want to sincerelygive you a big f.
You do?
You think don Donald Trump isgoing to help the Palestinian
people?
Laughable, that is a joke.
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