Vancouver Recap, Abaan Top 8 + General Meta Discussion

Episode Transcript

Liam (00:00):
And, uh, hello and welcome to the Trash Launch Podcast.

(00:02):
You know, we've been on a longhiatus.
We did record an episode afterHenry won San Antonio, but
unfortunately my audio was, uh,I don't know, it just didn't get
picked up.
I, I, I stand by.
It wasn't my fault, but I'm notreally sure.
Well, remember a lot of youguys, that same thing happened
after I'm on Baltimore, but it'sall good.
And it was the exact same issuewith the Bond's audio, so we had
ample time to fix it, but Noworries, no worries.

(00:24):
I'll actually just, I know, butwe like recorded many successful
podcasts between them.
So like, it was like, I don'tknow what to say.
Like, I hope this one likeactually gets recorded, but
like, uh, a lot of people cameup to me and said like, why no
podcasts like at EIC and at, um,at Bank.
So, You know, I'm like reallytouched.
I didn't actually know anyonecared about this podcast.

(00:44):
So, uh, sorry about that guys.
And even and so bad.
'cause in our New Year'sepisode, we promised to be more
consistent and we actually werethe least consistent we've ever
been in our entire lives.
So, I mean, it's obviously wecan just go ahead and blame Lame
here.
All good, bro.
All right.
The time, the time zone thing isa little, a bit of an issue, but
I think that, yeah.
Well, I don't know if we reallyhad that, A valid excuse
considering lamb pretty muchlives in the American Times.

(01:07):
yeah.
I, I don't like, that doesn'treally slide, but just like,
take that excuse guys and likekeep it pushing please.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Anyways.
You never say this anymore, butyou know, we're sponsored by
Dragon Shield.
I don't know, like, I feel badlike this has free sleeves and
we like, haven't said anythingin like so long.
But I, thanks for supporting us.
I cannot speak on this matter,but feel free to go ahead.

(01:29):
Yeah.
Anyways.
Oh, this podcast is be, uh, youknow, we're like actually
recording'cause we like have alot of events to talk about.
So yeah, let's get into it.
I think one like reallyinteresting event in particular.
Yeah.
Let's just start off VancouverRegional championships guys, do
we want to, because I think alot of people are curious about
the EUIC, like the Gogo room.

(01:50):
Like how did like Henry Chowplay Ang is the most recent?
Well, I mean, I think a lot ofpeople already, like, if they
wanted to know about it, I thinklike refu has like talked about
it, but like we, we can gothrough it real quick and I'm
obviously gold is like stillrelevant to Vancouver.
Um, yeah, sure.
I think I'm saying like, wehave, like, we didn't actually
write an agenda at all for thisepisode guys, but I think like
those are like the two keypoints.
Vancouver, regionals and EIC.
So like the events I cashedessentially are like the ones we

(02:10):
should talk about.
I'm down for that.
Great job.
I congrats on you.
That's fine.
Okay.
So coming off of the San AntonioRegional Championships, which I
managed to emerge victorious at,we uh, we got this new set
called Evolutions with the buddycard.
Kind of changed the medal alittle bit and uh, I was
practicing a guard and Livo werepracticing a PI deck for like.

(02:32):
Two or three weeks before UICand we were both like fairly
confident in it.
But then the moment we got intoBrad's room the day before, he
like showed us the skull Dangodeck that pretty much had
favorites into the top fivedecks of the meta.
So it seemed pretty good and it,it's not like super skill
intensive, so we just kind oflike decided to lock it in.
Right.
It seemed like a, I think theother problem, that room was
like all like, no bro, it waslike there propaganda in that

(02:54):
room.
Like on the wall.
Yeah.
There were like these posters oflike, play thingo bro.
Like, oh my God.
Not just that though, it waslike almost every serious North
American player other than likeDrake's friend group was in that
room.
So that was like 15 people and Ithought, like at the time we
didn't, we didn't have the Badootechnology.
I'm not sure if Liam knew, butlike I definitely didn't know
that in Piot, like you couldjust play one Badoo and the

(03:15):
golden match is like completelysolved.
So like I thought like, I'm notgonna play Cornerstone, and I
wasn't even sure if that wouldwork.
So I just, uh.
I just gave up.
I was like, I'm not gonna playpiggy eye until like fif, like
I'm gonna hit one of these guys.
And I ended up hitting Victorwho was playing the deck.
So like, I was kind of rightthat it's, it was too scary to
play.
Um.
Goo They were at every singlepossible bracket level as it

(03:36):
turned out.
Yep.
Just based on the red eye.
I managed to, uh, you know, keepit towards the bottom of the
bracket, just in case anyflipping just for full coverage.
Yeah.
Of course.
We needed someone at bracket getthe people at X to one Yeah.
Just to ruin people's dreams ofmaking, no matter how many
losses or wins you had, therewas a chance you hit one of the
golden groups.
So it was like very scary.

(03:57):
To play.
Yeah.
Something that, that at the timeI thought like, had a very tough
matchup.
I, I actually think withoutBadu, uh, I was playing a really
good s Chen and like, I thoughtthat actually there was like
more counterly than I realized,like the, the Istic Luxate
package, like it can get you sofar.
It's just that I didn't have thelike, extra push of like, uh,
Badu at the end.
So I was trying to like useTheistic Luxate to buy time to
flew out like some guy, but itwas pretty, SC sketch was all

(04:21):
you can do.
Like if you can get like two sesat some point, you can usually
win.
Right.
Yeah.
I like found out about this,like the promote the promote
bear and having like a l on thebench with charm or something.
It's like you can just likesometimes win by like asking
them, can you even kill this guytwice?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It's like, but, but I mean, the,the matchup is like, it's not,
it's not comfortable at allwhen, when you're like, you have
to resort to that.

(04:42):
Right?
Yeah, of course.
So yeah, that was like the storyof Guango, I think.
Uh, my li yeah, my turnaroundwas like, it was actually so
fucked.
I, uh, I beat a raging ballround one, which is like, dude,
like all these like, cap salesis like a super good matchup.
Like, dude, even with the ArchPro, like I, I don't know if I
was just like drawing that orsomething.
Like, dude getting turn twoGolda is like so hard for this

(05:03):
deck.
It felt like, um, so that, thatsounds like I think you
massively low rolled.
I've heard so much of Henry'sstories about this event, and I,
I, like, I was thinking about myown experience with Guango and
like a lot of the other people,like, I think Henry just like
really low rolled.
I don't really say that veryoften.
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not sure I,because it felt like, like it
was like a reasonable samplesize.
Like, I don't like six rounds.
Like I was attacking throughtwo, like less than half of'em.
I'm like, I don't, I don'treally know how, how that fits

(05:25):
in with y'all's.
But yeah, I beat Arag Bolt.
Then I got like, get just kindof like fucked me up on stream
and did 2, 2, 2, which like, Ididn't even like know was
possible.
Like Brad had just kind of toldme the day before that like,
yeah, that shit doesn't happen.
But he actually did it to me.
Um, and it was like, I mean hedrew pretty good, um, but it
wasn't like completelyunreasonable.
Uh, and then I just missedGolden Dingo game three.
Then I lost dude round three.
Round three was like the mostbullshit one where I hit a

(05:46):
fucking to kiss Golden Go.
And then he flipped heads on me,two games in a row on the very
last turn off, one flip.
So that was bullshit.
And then I beat, I don't evenremember what I beat, but then I
lost to a cloth.
So yeah, not very lit.
Kind of like got punished.
I like probably should've playedGuardi, but in like hindsight,
oh yeah, I'm sorry for youHenry, bro.
God Yeah, it was pretty bad.

(06:08):
I like, I don't have like thatmuch regret in playing Guango.
It's like it's bad for my brand.
Right.
But in terms of the ev, I thinklike Plano.
Yeah, exactly bro.
Like they, so somebody like hasto lose with this Guango deck,
right?
Like it's not, you have tosacrifice someone to get Xandr
and top four and like as manypeople as we did in 64 and
three, two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Unfortunately Henry, we drewstraws and we chose you Yeah.

(06:30):
Like our main open question islike whether goo.
Like outperformed expectationbased on like who the players
who were playing it.
Right.
I'm not sure about that.
I think it's like close, right?
Like about what you'd expectconsidering all the people who
played it.
I agree.
Mm-hmm And then Liam, do youwanna talk about your run at all
or do you wanna just keep itpushing?
It's fine.

(06:50):
Um, sure.
Yeah.
I, uh, I dunked on a bunch ofstuff.
I lost her cough.
I tied two snx and what was theother deck I lost to?
Hmm.
Oh, I lost some ride on.
I like missed Dango turn two.
Like I got doned one game andthen I missed Dango turn two in
the other.
Yeah.
Oh, I actually didn't even hearabout that.
Okay.
Yeah, that sounds alright.

(07:11):
Uh, I like briefly talked aboutmy run.
I went 1 1 1 into lost box.
I thought hitting three lossboxes was pretty egregious.
My first lost opponent.
Didn't know that you're notallowed to cram it.
Like you're literally neverallowed to cram it and leave
damage on the board because thenI would just like switch that KO
and just like Use it to as likep like Pikachu breaking with
Monkey Dory, the whole game.
So that game went really long,but I didn't expect my opponent

(07:32):
just randomly, like, there waslike no reason for it.
So I didn't actually expect itto happen.
So I was, the game had too muchtime to finish and then he won
on like turn three of time gametwo.
So I, it was one, one tie.
I lost to her money and hermoney's like the actual goat of
lost box.
Like, well, I don't know aboutthat.
I like, haven't really thoughtabout this very in depth, but I
would say he's like definitelytop three lost boxes in the
world.
Like you can just, and he liketold me, like apparently he like

(07:55):
tested like IA I guess.
But he told me he tested thematchup and he was like very
confident and like The way hewas talking while he was playing
me, he like did not care.
He was just like, I can dowhatever I want.
And like he just, he knewexactly like the limits of like
what was allowed.
He literally did not play asingle chorus against me.
'cause he, like, poke stoppedthem away.
And then one time he made areally mature, like he lost on
away chorus and like, I'm sureit was correct given that like,

(08:16):
he had just, he had like peramount of resources and stuff
that, like the chorus probablywasn't even necessary.
So I could just tell from likeour, our, like the one game that
we played.
Like, he doned me game two bythe way.
I just had two, two games.
He just turned one, turned oneshirt into me.
Wait.
Really?
Oh, I didn't even know aboutthat.
What the heck?
Yeah, but I knew was likescrewed him out.
Yeah.
I didn't ca I was low key, likewhen he was doing it and he
poke, hopped in a vacuum, I waslike, please tell me you have,

(08:38):
and he goes, yes, off thischorus.
If I have a switch, I have it.
I was like, he was like flippingthem over for me.
Like harmani, if I played onlike LA high, high ladder before
and like.
We, it was like pretty cool.
Like I was talking to him about,like, we were literally talking
about our ladder games and justlike, literally just chatting
while he was just owning me.
It was pretty, it was a prettyfun experience actually.
I like, I enjoyed that one.
And then I beat a CornerstoneLAX because game two, I dunked

(09:00):
him and game three, he took fiveprize cards.
And like, I actually do likereally pretty consistently
stopped my punnet from dpl, buthe took six cards off sisters
and I had no clue.
Like, he literally just picksup, he was super handsy with my
cards, which I don't reallycare.
Like, I, I don't mean tocomplain, like I really like
people.
I, I do sell other people'scards all the time, so like, I
have like, definitely don'twanna throw stones from like a
glass house, but like, he, heinsisted on like Sisters Inc.

(09:22):
For himself.
And he also insisted on like.
like fluting for himself too.
And I was like, yeah, I don'tcare.
And then like he picked up mydeck, dealt six cards.
I like, didn't notice.
And then he was like flippingthrough the cards like a lot.
And then I was like, that justlooks like too many cards.
Like how many is that And thenit's, and then it was six and
he'd already fed me five prizes,but he had lone cornerstone.
I had House to win though.
I could have, uh, I could havedone some tricks with just the

(09:43):
gimme Go attack because you haveto find something to Penny into.
And I, I think he didn't playMimic you or like it was prized
or, or something weird.
I wasn't really sure, but like,I think I might have got him,
but my deck might've been justslightly too low.
I'm not really sure who wasgonna win.
But after he did that, obviouslyI won instantly.
And then my one lost loss win islike, I think the only round of
the tournament.
I actually did.
Anything cool.
I like, um, game one, I justdoned him.

(10:05):
And then game two, uh, I usedMind Bend to break his Pikachu
and then he didn't have thedouble switch card, double
switching effect.
And he played jolty and he putway too many energies on his
first Pikachu that I mindmended.
And then he used, he used thesuper, he lost on a super rod
turned one, he used the superrod to use the jolt attack.
And then after I killed thePikachu that had damage left on
it, I, um, I just, he superratted one more time.

(10:28):
And so he had one super rodleft, but he was literally out
of energies completely.
So I just toured my last dangoand left my board as, um, as
Monkey Dory.
And a, um, it was, yeah, it waslike Monkey Dory on the act in
the active and like one gimme onthe bench.
And I just passed.
And he had literally exactlythree energies he lost on cram

(10:49):
and he had lost on Bear.
Bear.
Didn't really matter, I don'tthink, because, uh, he only had,
I only had taken two prizes atthis point just to kill the
Pikachu.
So he actually nest ball forhands and then counted his
resources and realized he didn'thave enough energies to, to play
the game.
Like he could have attacked withhands for arm press for one
prize.
But then I was just gonna use,uh, dango, kill the, kill the

(11:09):
Hands, and I just win the game.
So he just scooped it up.
So I two owe him and then Ilost.
I don't understand how you lostit situation and.
He lost him cram like turn one.
Yeah.
But like his turn one must havebeen basic in the back of your
mind, like the entire game.
If you had to lost him, cramthat like Yeah, I, I mean
obviously he, yeah, I obviouslyit's true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like yeah, there's everything tolike, I think, well, I think

(11:31):
it's reasonable'cause her moneylost some cram instantly because
her money just knew and hermoney did attack, attach extra
energies.
Yeah.
I don't have a problem with, butit's like.
If you're gonna lost on, youhave to make sure you're playing
airtight, right?
No, I think the biggestegregious on is loss.
Super odd.
Like it loss the first super rodand then super odding to use
your jolt tick was just like waytoo much stuff.

(11:52):
Like I, I don't even know.
It's possible.
Like I think he must have had avery like Ani s decision where
like he probably had super rodand ris and just like, he like
lost one brain, just likegrabbed the chorus when you
don't need any of that.
Well I mean like, I think likeall these decisions are fine,
right?
It's just that when you make allof them together and it blows
up, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then game round, like one ofmy last rounds I was 9 1 1 I

(12:13):
lost to a cloth where game one Idunked them game two, they chose
second and then they like neverlet up the badu and like they
just kept Badu poison killingstuff and I just like completely
fell over, which is how you'resupposed to play the matchup.
Well you could kind of, youknow, once you were winning on
the prize trade you can just get'em with the tro, like that's
fine.
Yeah.
But they were so adherent to theprincipal that like when they
could have decided to win forthe prize trade and uh, they

(12:33):
like still Badu, so I knew.
And I thought like it's betterto be on that side of the
spectrum than the side where youdon't beew enough and just try
to win from pressure from theget go.
So like I thought that thisopponent was like way too
competent, so I was like notgonna choose first.
Like if I thought my claw on waslike kind of not really sure
what was going on.
I could have chose first andlike got away with it.
But I knew that if I chose firstI was getting beew, I was gonna

(12:54):
lose.
So I just decided to choosesecond game new.
Yeah.
And started, yeah, they juststarted baby pack rent and had
the bonnet don like instantlyand I started load game, so I
just lost, like I lost the, weplayed a three game, seven, 15
minutes.
It was brutal.
Wait, how did you get'em?
Game one.
They literally went like, I wentfirst and I drew past going
second.
And, I don't know, pretty lit.

(13:15):
Pretty lit.
Okay.
Yeah.
Great.
Set all around.
Yeah.
Really fun set.
And then I guess a, yeah,actually, does the baby Dan go
fix it?
Like, well, not fix, like itmakes it like playable, right?
Like you, the spirit team helpsa lot as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
The team is really helpful.
Like their deck is not very goodwhen you don't have to, when
when tombs in play, they're likeLucia esque, like people don't
talk about how much cloth like,struggles under tomb.

(13:37):
It's like, well, like the deckalready struggles enough so they
can't really tell that it's likestruggling even more Right?
I agree with this.
I, but anyways, um, the lasttime I played against Alucia and
if it was I win, I make 5K, Imake 16.
I was gonna, I had Godresistance if I lose no money
and if I tie it's 2K.
And uh, I definitely made somemistakes.

(13:58):
That said I wasn't very proud ofLu game matchup and like I have
a lot of regret for how I playedit.
I, me the second gimme when Ididn't need to and I got they
boss water upon me.
I.
And then at the end I cyberstacked a boss to my deck.
And I needed, like, they had aguy with legacy active or, or
something like that.
Or maybe they had jino active.
I don't really remember exactlywhat happened, but essentially I
needed boss to kill a two Prizeron the bench with no legacy or

(14:20):
boss and one SCRI had three inmy deck and I just like, um, I
just crumbled.
I just didn't find the SER off,like f plus Ninja plus, uh,
Danko.
But I needed a little more, likeonce I used Ninja, I need one
SER wasn't enough.
I think, well, actually I drewlike enough raw energies.
You an NCR stretcher or someshit?
No, no.
I drew enough raw energies offthe first five cards that I
think the ninja was fine, butI'm just saying that like if I

(14:41):
knew I had the ninja, SERwouldn't have been enough.
But I did draw the otherconditionals, like it was so
painful too.
'cause off the last draw I drewdouble ciphers, which, oh wait,
I guess ciphers didn't matterbecause I, I needed to boss.
Nevermind.
But I do remember drawingciphers and thinking, oh, well I
had like nothing I could evendo.
'cause I, yeah.
Anyways, so ended up nine, uh, 91 2 I guess, or 13 or yeah, 9 1

(15:02):
2.
So whatever.
Yeah.
Or ten one.
No, I don't remember.
Yeah.
Probably ten one two.
Did I really win 10 rounds?
No, no.
I went 9 1 2, that's for sure.
Well, that, wait, no add up, butit's probably 9, 2, 2.
Did I lose twice?
Oh, I lost her money and I lostthe clock.
9, 2, 2.
That was my final That checksout.
That out.
I knew I didn't have 10 wins.
That's all I remembered forsure.
Yeah.
Then you would've been infracking then.

(15:24):
I'd been really chilly.
I've making a lot of money.
Yeah.
But anyways, yeah, I think thatwas my, uh, oh.
You know, not, not the bestperformance from us, but it's
all good.
You feel like a side character,like when you're playing Dango,
like you, you just try to do asbest as you can on your own.
But like you're, like, once theprize trade's losing, like
there's no io there's nothinglike, I think the Roxanne's an

(15:44):
all right edition.
I, I don't actually like, lovethe Roxanne.
Yeah, you the Roxanne.
It's, I, yeah.
I, I thought this new list waslike way better at the baby
dangos.
Of course, I, I wouldn't play itwithout the mirror
consideration, but like, I.
I like it a lot.
The baby Dan and the tomb arelike way more important.
I don't know, I think theRoxanne is like, the rock is
good, dude.
I wouldn't want me like, well Istill want the gang guard.

(16:04):
I might be more down for thegang guard than the baby Dango.
But I don't know if that's liketroll.
But dude, I think the gang isthe cornerstone.
The cornerstone considerations.
Oh, I see.
Does Baby Dango?
Baby Dango does a lot.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It Well when you have the tombas well, right?
Like the, the Baby Dangle plusthe Tomb Henry, there's so many
spots where you're like, like atthe end where if you could just
like go like hit 50, evolve, hitone 20, like shuffle in, hit a

(16:28):
hundred into After you Pennyinto mimic you like you'd win,
right?
Yeah.
But like you can't do that.
So I think the Baby Dangodefinitely does help enough
against like verystraightforward cornerstone
strategies.
If they have like moreintricacy, like they have like,
I dunno, like sometimes likethere's like other factors that
you have to worry about.
Then they can like transition toa different plant.
But just like pure channelcornerstone Wall, you doesn't
really work against the The babydango.
Yeah.

(16:48):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pretty.
But anyways, I think that's ourUSCI was crashing out after I
lost, but uh, honestly, it'sback, dude.
It was actually horrible.
I, yeah, like we're never doingthat shit again.
'cause like, we wanna be incontrol of our destiny.
But, uh, you were, yeah, thatwas the one, that was the one
thing we were sure of.
I felt like after, uh, afterEIC, like we didn't really have

(17:09):
a concrete reason, but I thinkme and Liam, we both knew that
like, or I guess Henry too.
Like, well I was the only onewho had a, who was gonna
Vancouver, but I knew for a factI was not playing Dan go to
Vancouver.
Yeah.
Just'cause like there's noreason to, I think Like, I just
got swept up in the whole like,oh, my deck is trash.
Like, I think, I think we wereall like a little scared and
then like, you know, Brad, Bradwas out here like offering us
all like the solution and it waslike, you know, yeah, we'll

(17:31):
just, just put our faith in himfor this one.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I wasn't veryconfident in my god red deck.
And you guys weren't thatconfident in your P deck?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
We more confident we would'vestayed strong.
Also, his decorat by, I mean,after that event though, the
badoo that, that, like Liam, I,I have to give full credit to
Liam for this Badoo idea becauseI, I, I was a little skeptical,
but Liam just like played me acouple times with the Badoo in

(17:52):
the deck and like he was, he wassuper sure that that was the
best answer to go dango.
And like, I was like, I was likekind of on the fence about it.
I was like, maybe if I manage myenergies perfectly, I can win.
It's so hard if the flu evenhits like one gimme go, it
already like, feels like reallyhard.
As long as the charm isn'tprized, that's like the key
thing you can't prize.
I'd say like also pricingThornton makes it really hard to
spam it.
Like pricing stretcher is likeannoying, but if you prize

(18:13):
Thornton and like you can't padfor Purdue again anymore, that's
like, that makes it really hardas well to actually finish the
game.
Because you can never drop thebedu lock once you like start
the bedu lock.
Yeah, perfect.
You give so many prizes up, likeyou can never drop it.
If you ever drop it for eventurn you lose.
The thing is like you get somuch time in the match.
Right, because like even if theyhave the energy and deck, it's
really hard for them to accessit.
Like they have to essentiallyhave like a raw ciphers.

(18:34):
Right?
So a lot of, yeah, exactly.
Like they just miss an attackand then you like get to set up
everything in your hand.
Right?
Exactly.
A lot of the middle bad Deesdon't have a charm in them.
They miss a turn and yous leanand if you hit one heads and you
get the charm back, like they'retwo energy stress that you might
not need a charm ever again.
It's also important thatmatchup, like we'll talk more
like, because I did play againsttwo Tangos and maybe I can tell
you guys more about the matchup,but like, not, not you guys

(18:55):
obviously like, like audience,like I, but like I would say
like I dunno how I clarifiedanyways.
I'll say that.
Like if you don't charm yourlux, right, it's huge bait
because if you get your charmedback, I think the matchup gets
way too hard.
Like I know it like sounds niceto like tax an extra energy, but
like literally I think youshould only charm when you
announcing itchy pollen forturn.
Oh, or else it's better to taxthe poor is what you're saying.

(19:17):
Like after they have lessenergies, that's when you want
to tax them.
No, no, no.
It's not about that.
It's literally about neverletting your charm get backed so
you can like at least cycle itonce or twice.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I see.
Um, no chest.
Okay, so yeah, that was EICpretty lit.
Well, not really.
It's actually terrible.
Um, and then it was like twoweeks till Vancouver, as Lamb

(19:37):
knows I was kind of retiredbecause I was not going to
Vancouver and had other shitgoing on.
Hmm.
What do you mean, kind?
Yeah.
Henry has this thing where if hehas an event in the, in the
format, he just like, prettymuch like disappears from the
group chats and just like can'tbe found completely untrue, but
it's all good.
That's like, actually that waslike, that was a lie.
No, no, no.
He's actually like very presentin the group chat, but he's just

(19:58):
like literally saying he justwon't play the game.
Like Yeah.
He just says random things andlike just won't like play.
Yeah.
I become a full-time rage major.
It's pretty, well actually, no,I will give Henry credit.
He like decided like, he feltlike bad for me that he, like he
won San Antonio and I got 147,so he decided to like donate$50
to me.
By playing like a, he thoughthis spear tune, BDU Godless was
actually had any chance for hispitch on my tic.

(20:19):
That was the best of seven andit was 4.0 Okay.
Appreciate the physiology,honestly.
Yeah, I like, well I was playingsort of that, but also I
realized that this Badoo is likekind ba I shouldn't be using
that guy.
Not just that the Evo card islike, like the Evo card was
like, am I gonna get credit forthat now that you know, you're
like speaking publicly.
Okay, I sure I'm down.
I mean, I'll say this like, likewe were sitting on a call and I

(20:41):
was like, I was like, I think weneed pitch Yoda.
Like this PDU card is too good.
Like we cannot have it that ifthey bedu we, we have to break
item lock to vault.
Like we have to have some out.
Right?
And so I said, but pitch Yodaand like maybe in the same
breath Henry said like, oh Evo.
And then like, you know, I meanobviously I thought PTO was be
paired with Evo, but like, okay.
Completely 50 50.
Shout to Henry.

(21:02):
50 50, shout to Henry.
Controlling what the, all good.
It's all good.
It's all good.
Yeah.
I'll take credit for pushing.
I have like no recollection oflike any of these events.
But this is like definitely thenarrative that a Obama is
pushing.
Yeah.
I mean, it's all, it's all, I'lljust take credit.
Okay.
Henry, can we agree that thestory, even if it's like,
there's like, like some, uh,spewing from of me, like at

(21:22):
least the events I said aretrue.
Like I did say pto, you saidEvo, and then like that's the
true part.
Yeah, that's the true part.
Yes.
Everything called made no sense,but that part, how can that dude
pitch?
OTO is a stage one and like mostpeople play P oto when they use
Elu TM evolution.
Is that correct?
Like, like does, can the courtagree on this at least, or.

(21:43):
Like, I don't know, Vicky,you're like playing a super
heavy I Alyssa this way.
You were on like three Iita orsome shit, right?
No, no, I was never on three, I,it was two Iita, three Arvin,
which is what I ended upplaying.
Okay, okay.
Okay.
Well anyway, I'll, I'll betaking like probably like 70% of
the credit, but it's all good.
No, I, there's, it's actuallyoutrageous for you to think that
you deserve any more than likeat the very most, like 40% most.

(22:04):
And, and that's like, that's agenerous offer.
Like you can take your 40% andleave or like we can like argue
and go to small claims court andmaybe it'll come down to 30%.
Who knows?
Firstly, I think the seventhAmendment says that we'll not be
able to, from my Americanhistory, you's gonna say that
we'll not be making the smallclaims court.
Um, okay, so is there anything,okay, fine.
But anyways, like after the 7030 idea that me and Henry came

(22:26):
off with, the deck just felt sobroken.
Like it doesn't, like, yeah, itlike sets up way more like the
evil more.
This deck is like clearlyterrible still, but let's go
through a bonds bank run.
Okay, sure.
I, okay.
Like the deck is like not verygood.
It's obviously not terrible.
Like how can you even say thatwith a straight face?
Like, I mean, like we top four,you know, like just because you
got top eight doesn't mean yourdeck isn't terrible.
Like, I agree with No, no, no.

(22:50):
I'm not saying it based on the,the fact that like I top a, like
top a top four, like based onresults, I think How can you
think this deck is terrible?
Just because like, Henry'scontention is the pul nor
matchup is like, well, likeunsaved.
Like if your goal is to win thetournament, you probably
shouldn't play the page on deck.
Um, that's ridiculous.
That's actually a ridiculousstatement.
If your goal is to win thetournament, you definitely
shouldn't play the guard wardeck because your name's not
Henry Chow.
So like, don't pick that up ifyou're not Henry's literally

(23:12):
look through like, this isridiculous.
Like, dude, dude, oh my God,Henry, you dude, like literally
look through the results.
Like Henry has plenty ofdisciples.
He like released the meta myclass for like every deck he
ever made.
Like he's like a complete shilland like no one has.
Other than like Rose Gregson atLAIC, no one has ever been able
to make, oh, and I guess MD andMarita, we'll, like, we'll, not

(23:33):
like be discussing the validityof Marita, but it's totally
fine.
Like, other than those twooutliers, no one can make past
Asim with Henry's creations.
Like, let's just be, uh, let'sbe real.
Well, dude, like, anyways.
No, no.
Like there hasn't even been verymany opportunities, dude, like
Baltimore and Louisville.
No one would've like played myDax.
And then like, are you serious?
A good success.
Okay.
And then Toronto, it had prettygood success.

(23:55):
Like, yeah, some shit happenedin Asim, but the deck was pretty
good.
Like everyone played.
It was actually Every timepeople played the PI deck, they
got top eight.
Henry, even with these limitedopportunities, lose an Asim.
Dude, Henry, I'll admit this issuper runoff based, but Poke has
actually clearly stated thatAsim, like losing an asim is
like not worth very much intheir eyes.
There's like 120 pointsseparating Asim and like topic.

(24:17):
Yeah, that, yeah.
I, they, they know I, I'm wellaware.
Well, obviously this is top 16.
Yeah, exactly.
But no, Henry, I thought we weretalking about the window from
like Toronto to Vancouver andlike that's such a short window,
literally li list, like where'sour results?
Top eight?
Yeah.
That literally only one personhas ever played our pig yacht

(24:39):
creation, and they top eight it.
So it is like, um, I don't know.
Like Jeremy for one.
Jeremy.
What?
What?
No, no.
Like in that window.
In that window that Liam justlike out outlined, Jeremy Gibon
played it at Toronto as well.
He did.
He did Okay.
Alright.
I didn't that.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that was actuallydoing good.

(25:03):
No, I think.
Well, Jeremy or Hassan didn'tplay the right Toad school.
So if it was Jeremy, oh, thatchanged everything.
That, that straight up changedeverything.
No, no, that, that, so hedoesn't count.
Doesn't count.
It doesn't even matter.
No.
Uh, doesn't change the Toadschool.
I like Ohad, I think, I thinkJeremy played the fighting type
one instead of the grass typeone.

(25:23):
Okay.
Alright.
Is the wrong one.
That is so different that Libbychanges everything if they play
like friend ball or love ball orwhatever.
So like, don't do the samething.
Jeremy.
Jeremy like, uh, I think, no, itwas Jeremy bro.
'cause he, he like almost lostthe game to it because he had a
chance to do the play where hemissed energy counter games.
The Toad School then knocks outa roaring moon.

(25:44):
That frenzy gouging Nice fan.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So this is completely like, soJeremy's run doesn't count in
terms of the thing.
So anyways, me and Hassan arethe two top baders with the
list, so.
Okay.
Thank you for, it's fine.
Actually from.
Toronto to San Antonio.
Three people top cut with, uh,my creations top cut.

(26:04):
We don't use that terminologythese days.
Top eight This is all, iscompletely results based.
By the way, if I lost, if me or,or Hassan somehow had to play
Asim and Lost, or if I like lostmy game to the Luga and Asim, we
would be definitely shifting thenarrative.
I, I'll be completely honest.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm completely with this.
I'm completely with this.
We'll share say with no shame,but that's like not ridiculous.

(26:27):
Ill say that.
PT Ladder, when they count yourtop cuts, they include Asims.
So I will be going ahead andsaying that I'm Oh, we're using,
we're using pt.
Oh, okay.
Well, PT Ladder hasn't evenupdated Vancouver yet.
So like, are we allowed to havea podcast about Vancouver?
'cause like, PT Ladder's gonnahave it up, so, oh, still not
Wait.
Oh, oh, is it up?
No, no.

(26:47):
It is updated.
It is?
Okay.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Anyways, we'll, we'll like,we'll like discuss tight.
That's crazy.
Alright.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Anyways, Vancouver, uh, I waslike, sure that I wanted to play
my patriot deck because like, Idon't know, I just, I just, I
really felt a lot of regret thatI like, like cowered out the
last second and we finished,finished the golden matchup or

(27:07):
like fixed it.
Sorry.
So like, I thought there's noway we can, like, I can play
something else.
So I was, I was set.
Uh, I was just thinking aboutsome last, last cards, like, uh,
the four Arvin, two, one ear Ithink versus three, two, I, I
think like I thought about itbit two ear broken.
It does.
The ear are really good.
I agree with you Henry.
I think it matters like aboutthe same amount that like the

(27:29):
Erie to Arvin split that youplayed the NIC matters.
Yeah, exactly.
Like it's like fun, like it's agood chat, but no one actually
cares.
Right?
Yeah.
Ex exactly.
Deck would still function fineif you played four one.
It's like, no.
Yeah, I agree with this, but Iwas very happy throughout the
day.
Like the thing is though, whenyou, when you, yeah, I agree.
When you price secret pox thoughand you're looking at internet
like, that happened to me onetime.

(27:49):
I felt so sad.
But other than that it waschill, bro.
I like brilliant.
I mean, you know, I'm all for, Igrabbed Nest Ball and wrote'em,
did everything I needed for therecord, but, oh, that's why year
nor there we did Secret Box.
I.
So anyways, before thetournament on Friday, I was, um,
I was feeling like pretty good,but I wasn't, I wanted to play a

(28:11):
couple of games because Drake,he was refusing to play me.
Like I asked him like manytimes, like, I wanna practice
the matchup.
And he said, bro, I played somuch this matchup before you, I
see that I don't wanna testanymore.
So I was like, or I don't wannatest this match anymore.
I have other things to worryabout.
And I was like, please, Drake,like, I think that you're gonna
be in the finals and like, Iwanna get some practice in
beforehand.
So, you know, also just fightingthat in there.

(28:31):
I called it, dude.
Well, I don't know what you saidin person, but I like, well,
we'll talk about this, but like,I, I like a hundred percent knew
Drake was winning was event.
Like, that shit was not evenlike a question.
Oh dude.
I, I knew Drake was cutting andI still was cocky enough to put
a$5 placement file with him thatI de like I placed better than
him.
And, uh, you know, after Swiss,after Swiss, I was ahead.

(28:53):
10.
Hey.
Yeah, I was above Dr.
And Smith.
Any IC Oh, if that turned outwell, how did that go?
Oh, okay.
Anyways, so the, the thing thatreally made me confident though
is I played against like the, Iactually played against Drake's
List, but I was playing againstuh, Justin Templar and like Luc
is sing beforehand.
And I was like, I felt like Iwas like still learning the
matchup, like with Badu.

(29:13):
I'm not sure how good this Baduconvert is, but I think like
they were surprised by it justas much as I was surprised it
was so good.
Like, they were having like kindof slow starts, like, I dunno,
they just didn't want, theydidn't have Lance yet.
They were just like going to BDUas fast as possible.
And I would hit the, the bdu,like I'd get pig out, out like
through some like agreed tosacking and then I'd just like
get into DU and stop there.
I stop them from Candying, butthey had like one or two Drac

(29:35):
looks, then I'd ICS and I wouldset up my water pond and then I
would water pond kill both Dalsand like It was pretty much over
from there.
And this was a two bo, like thiswas Drake's, like two boss list.
So at the time it was workinggood.
Like we like tested the matchupa lot more after the event and
like that shit is happen,happen.
I'm not sure at all.
Yeah.
I don't know what was happening.
I genuinely don't know, likewhat happened in like the

(29:56):
Vancouver like conventioncenter, like why this was
strategy was working so muchmore like right then.
Like I genuinely have no clue Iwas winning every single game
like this because you're notplaying against like, like me or
Bradner, like Sure.
But I think like Zing andTrustin, those are like, like, I
dunno what to say.
Like, they're, they'redefinitely really good at they,
well they don't play like, it'sjust about knowledge.

(30:18):
Like, it's not about likeinstinct.
Trustin doesn't play pul thisdeck like said many times.
Like Tristan is like theinventor of this list.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, trust's obviouslygood.
You're just probably sackinghim, that's the thing, like,
right.
Yeah.
I know, I know.
But I went like five one, so I'mjust saying like, what happened?
I, I was feeling really good.
Let's not forget like at thismoment Abad decided to go, to
say anything strategy.
It was like, dude, this stickdestroys everything.
Like obviously that's not true.

(30:39):
Yeah, bro.
I, I played like, um.
Like maybe like eight or ninehours yesterday of the pulp
matchup in Piot versus Bradner.
And we were like playing bothsides and the pulp side was so
much better.
Every single, like the Pul sideis so much more comfortable.
It's winning like 70, 80%, likeby the numbers and by the vibes.
It's just like completely mothis deck.

(31:01):
It's, I mean this pol deck isjust so good.
Like they land on turn two.
Okay.
And the PI player just alreadywants to, it's important, it's
important to clarify that we'reonly talking about pul, nor
every, everyone agrees that thisstraight dust the straight.
No, no.
I mean that is also the versionthat one, um, port laser and
like top A of this event.
Like that's the other pulingcut.
Like, I think it's to, it'stotally valid to just point out

(31:21):
that that's, this is like thisPul is only half the PUL
percentage, right?
Like.
I don't, I don't wanna like,like obviously like regular full
tech is something you can do.
I, I, and I actually think theaudience understands that.
I think maybe at the highestlevel I agree that this Paul nor
iss un favored, like, I'm likewilling to succeed that at the
very, at the very, very highestlevel.
But like, it's extremely, like,highly un favored at the highest

(31:42):
level.
Like it's not just, okay, sure.
But on your, like, I like thisis advice for anyone who's
playing, like, who's decidingwhich side to be on.
Well, I, you don't have todecide, like the thing is a
whole different, but I'm justsaying that like, if you're
playing page to this event andyou're actually really cracked
at Piot, you're gonna beat like,like almost every er you sit
down against, likerealistically, like if you are
like really, really good withpiot, like, I think.

(32:03):
You will be like, most Paulknows you play.
And I, I don't think that likecan really be disputed.
I think like no, it definitelycan be disputed.
I think it gets like the averageplayers, you'll convert your pay
jack games a little bit more.
You're still losing these gameswhere you just get like
completely fucked up by Yeah.
Like, I don't know.
I like, I, I do feel like somepeople have like some, some
pretty bad technique, but likeit doesn't feel like it takes
all that much, bro.

(32:23):
Like as soon as you go like BDUa lands for three drag load, you
already feel like, like it'simpossible to lose.
Yeah.
Like they, it's like such anobvious, like they go for the D
dz, right?
Like Yeah, exactly.
Like sure how your deck works,you bedo and then you get your
three drag folk and now you'realready like zing them up, dude.
Like I agree.
Like, I mean, I was putting uplike I don't, but like I agree

(32:44):
to the extent, but I still likewas like before, like way before
I was like beating Drake pretty.
'cause like we were like going,even I was like, I was up into
Drake and then we had like areally, like I had a bad session
and then like, I think I endedup probably being down before we
like quit playing the matchupever.
And then like I played thematchup on ladder a ton.
I played the matchup with liketruss and zing.
Like, I don't know like how,like how crap do you have to

(33:05):
like, I don't even know whatthey're doing wrong.
'cause I agree like it's so easyto play the pulse side, so I
don't even know how people aremessing it up.
But I just know that when I playthe pig outside and I just like
watch what they're doing, I'mlike, oh wow.
Like they mess up and like, nowthis is like Textbook
punishment.
Oh yeah.
There's like some forbiddentechniques that are like, not
obvious, like people do notexpect you to get like the water
pot involved or like this isticstuff, but like, it's just like,
as long as they're aware, awareof like all your tricks, it's

(33:28):
like, feels like they can playaround it and just, yeah.
Now that me and Henry aren'tgonna Stockholm anymore because
we couldn't get a spot, now Idon't even care.
Like you can like, yeah, justplay around cic, but that's not
that hard.
TPCI, if you're listening,please gimme a spot to
Stockholm.
I would like to make my$10,000.
But I think that literally likethe, the, the simple concept of
like IC is a huge threat is likelost on a lot of people.

(33:48):
Even like pretty strong players.
Like until they see it and thenthey're like, they look at their
hand, then they're like, okay,wow.
Not letting that happen again.
If I have to play it's like Ifeel like my one set that I did
get to play is like they didn'texpect the water pond to get
involved.
And then I had a slow start gamethree and like.
It I prize OSA game two.
It was just, but the water P gotinvolved and was too good.
And then game three, I think OSAgot involved, but I think the

(34:11):
water p also got involved againand like it was pretty free.
Yeah.
Every time I use the water pongjust a game winning.
Yeah.
Like, yeah.
Yeah.
But I mean like in principle, itdoesn't have to be true, but
like generally, like there'slike some like in practice, they
don't convert the post.
Yeah.
They don't convert the posttorrential pump world very well.
Yeah.
Well dude, like converting it islike if you're doing the

(34:31):
torrential pump, right?
Like the next turn is like pennyfebu ascension every single
time.
Yes.
And like yes, exactly.
The are gone.
The game is over.
Like it's not over because theyplay three dous, all two
stretcher.
And like if they didn't let youget a clo, a CLOs with a pump,
like they still might haveenough resources to get you and,
and they get to Iona four andCCS their life.
So pretty much though, like it'sbecause I agree that's, that's

(34:52):
why I think it's like good.
That's why I think it's a goodthing to do and it's like a good
spot.
But I'm just saying that like itis, the game is not as a hundred
zero as it feels in practicewhen you do this to someone.
Yeah.
So you wanna get into My problemthough is I didn't understand
this correlation though.
And sometimes in testing I wouldlose gain ride threshold pump
because like we're talking nowwhen you're like allowed to

(35:13):
trench a pump, then you neverlose.
But because I've noticed thatspot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would do it way too early.
Like I was just like, I wouldn'tpigeon out for like enough good
stuff first.
I wouldn't istic first.
I was the realistic Bri, I wasjust like, but like I would just
go like bang potential pump,like, and then they just like,
it would be their hand is hugeor something.
Or like something had gone wrongand like I lose board is just
wide.
Then they have access to CC andlike they just start like

(35:35):
magging your board.
Right.
CC pigeon out punch everywhere,right?
Yeah.
CC Pigeon punch io.
Yeah.
Like you have to be like set upenough or like have enough good
things going for you that likethis IO is not gonna like ruin
the game for you, like after youget, after you get the trench
pump off.
So yeah.
Anyways.

(35:55):
Yeah.
So do you wanna go through likeevent round or interesting
rounds or, yeah, or, yeah.
I'll, I'll try to do, I'll do aspeed run because I think piton
matches are pretty easy to tellwhat happened.
So I'll just speed run throughas many of my, my rounds really
fast.
So round one, I think I saw Chaon, he was actually playing the
Brent Toon list.
He was Australian.
And game one I did, I didn't seeprime catcher until game three.

(36:15):
So game one, he didn't, um, likehe just didn't use Prime
Catcher, but I just like, myboard was like bad and he just
like ran me over.
I just drew pound of bad gametwo.
I was like getting extremelylucky with the flute.
I flew out like so many.
Good, well, he donated squawk ofhis own volition.
And then I fluted gr Ninja Fezand a second, and, and the yaga

(36:36):
after he bega also on his ownvolition.
But this was not like one flute,this was three flutes that I got
this, I think each went one.
He, he had one arch.
He had one arch, one Sweedonated, one Fez and Greninja
and a diala that I put down.
Yeah.
And then yeah, a diala that heput down.
I guess he did.
No, no, no, no.
I, I must be wrong with Daga.

(36:56):
I think the Diala was alsovoluntary and I only had one
Diala and there was a secondElla on.
Regardless.
That's enough to win.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So anyways, that was enough towin game two and then game three
didn't have that much time, wegentleman, and we got to a weird
spot.
But anyways, it ended, I endedup getting the gentleman Sure.
And then you on two playing withKango.
He, um, he was playing a one oneour child online in it, which

(37:16):
was really funny because heultra balled away the, um, wait,
the, our child on really early,one of them way.
Yeah, I don't know.
But he'll ultra the waydon andthen assuming he could stretch
it later.
And then when I got into theBadoo, I had a charm and it was,
it was really funny.
He put 30 with the hammer in andthen he jammy towered, and I

(37:36):
promoted lax.
And he just like, he went crazy.
He like had an energy already onhis tango.
He retreated and used three moreenergies to kill LAX as well,
while he was like itchy, pullingthat turn right.
And I just like set up another,he like, he attached an
hammering.
He had an energy on the active,oh, I guess he, he active, maybe
he didn't retreat.
Mm.
Oh, yes.
He retreated before the jammytower was played.

(37:57):
Yes, you're right.
Henry got, I got, yeah.
And I was like, I just couldn'tstop laughing.
I was just like, he just killedthree en, he like killed my
lives with three energies and Ipassed the Turo melodic this
game.
So I did have some annoyancesdealing with tarots, or maybe he
turro into the arch.
The, the golden.
The thing, don't, the tur arejust plus one energy.
They don't really matter thatmuch.
Or sometimes plus two energy.

(38:17):
Yeah, I know.
But yeah.
And, and you're not allowed togo for the other strats, right?
Like when, when you have Turo,you can't, that's why you're
never.
Well, I don't know because gameone, I saw his entire deck
because he played till deco orplayed till within three cards
of deco, I think.
And I flew, I, I always, when Igo to win no matter what, and
their deck is sub five cards,I'm picking my cards up.
He played the flute 13, notletting you see everything.

(38:38):
Yes, yes, I know.
But he did not do that.
So I got to flute, see the lastfive he, he got down the two
prize cards and I'd ic to himlike I turned before, so there
were only like five mysterycards.
So I just like knew there was nohard switch in his dad.
Yeah.
Or, or like any tricks to beword out whatsoever.
Yeah, and I saw like his energycount too.
So I knew that he couldn'tattack with Greninja.

(38:59):
This actually came up againagainst my other Guango
opponent.
I knew he couldn't attack withGr Ninja.
So game two, I just like, uh, hebenched gr Ninja on his own and
I had the Turmo Myotic and helike picked up and read it,
which is a great sign.
And then I CC and a water poundthe Greninja and he scooped
instantly.
So.
Well, I mean, it seems like inthis spot, if he had a switch,
that probably would've evenmattered.
Yeah, it wouldn't have mattered,but it's like, it's extra

(39:21):
assurance.
Like the five MR.
Cards would just be like fourswitches for me to lose, like.
But anyways, so I beat that guy.
Then round three I had atragedy.
I played against LAX in gameone.
I, I saw temples early on, so Ithought there must be a geo, geo
como to follow with this.
And like I think if they don'thave geo como, the S tier line
is just like pig evolve nothingand just a hundred even into

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fans and just like Penny as likenever bench anything on your
own.
Just like have a pig up pennyeverything else when they flute
or Erica's or whatever, it'sfine.
Penny again.
And then when they start likefanning your en your energies
onto the basics, you just pennythose and like, yeah.
And just a hundred them todeath.
And win the game that way.
And I especially need to go forthe strategy because I prized io

(40:04):
so every card I was drawing waslike forever drawn unless I pow
like the only thing I could doto make my deck bigger is Pal
pad.
So anyways, I was, I went forthe strategy where I bedu him
and never dropped the Badoolock, but I ended up losing a
deck out war where I had twoLene, two pad, and he had two
Lene, one Yel cheer.
And I just lost like my, I likelost like, uh, like six or I
believe like, like six flips ina row is like the, the final

(40:26):
breaking point.
But I'd already like been goinga little negative to get to The
six flips in a rows when Ibroke, but I think I was going a
little negative to even getthere.
Right.
So it's okay.
I mean, I like, I was reallytilted, but game two I realized
there was no Jocko.
'cause I saw his entire deckexcept his six prize cards,
which I believe he like showedto me too, just like for no
reason after game one.
So I just like instantly wentfrom my page out a hundred

(40:47):
strategy and I got the game, uh,with one minute left in, uh, in
before time and he just, we justdidn't play game three.
So we, I tied, I was extremelyfrustrated after I tied, but
this was not the mostfrustrating I would be all day
actually.
So and like, that's kind ofcrazy because when I tied this
lax, which is like supposed tobe like in 90 10, I was, I

(41:08):
thought like this is like peakfrustration.
Anyways, the next round, I thinkit's Ethan y.
He's like a really nice guy.
He plays Pig out normally, buthe, we were actually chatting
'cause we've talked about PigOut before and we were chatting
and he said like he couldn'tmake it work for this event.
And then I played, I played himand like I evo him and he
thought it was pretty cool andlike, I don't know, he was like
obviously tilted that he justlike lost the, he lost both

(41:29):
games mention, really mentionanything.
The Guidewire stack and you'resort of Rock Oh, sorry.
In the face.
Yeah.
I he playing Guard Devore ingame one.
He tried the Clef Me, which Iwas really surprised and I
thought like most pigon enjoyersdon't like try to clef because
the clef is so bad.
It solves like any monkey dorytricks like.
You can't even win the game withcl key.
Like you have to retreat andlike, even if they're bricked

(41:50):
and you retreat and like, theycan start roading again.
Like, well dude, if you don'tcompare to him, I don't know,
like I'm kind of down to justfree roll with cl you know?
I don't even like, dude, if it'snot even a free roll, that's the
point.
It doesn't work.
It like almost never works.
Anyways, he cl he me, I justlike had like, I literally like
when the clef and there's nopressure, I like just was able
to nest ball for pitchy and thenlike, I next friend I like had
lux right in hand.
I had Arvin like maybe that'slike an eg agree to set.

(42:11):
Yeah, exactly.
Like, okay.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
So yeah, no, he went for thisclef and like, obviously
terrible.
I have so many outs.
I have a ridiculous amount ofouts, myy and my Arvin.
So, and I, I, I have so many,like, I, I didn't think it was
like that lucky, but anyways,gave two I, it was even more
egregious what I did to him.
He chose first and I just likeEvo into baby melodic and the
PTO on turn one and the game waslike almost over on the spot.

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It was, I used a secret box too,so I think I had a, my hand was
like lux or like wrote on.
I had Rod him on the bench tooand my hand already had the
Arvin for next turn and like helike, it's really awkward,
right?
'cause the art, the rodos on thebench, like whatcha gonna do
like the Arvin is known.
So do you io to stop the SealStone or Pope Seal Stone's
prize?
Maybe.
Or like, do you like io Justexpress prize.

(42:56):
Sometimes you've done to me aslike you have the Arvin turn won
and then you just like get boththe steel stone and the Evo in
play and the game is likeliterally over.
Right?
Like you actually just can'twait.
Oh yeah.
That's like, that's a fanfavorite too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
game or something.
But yeah, I think it wasexhaust.
I think thing like why is likeso improbable it almost never
happens is'cause the pitch deckhas to start with the energy,
which is like an egregious highrule.
But sometimes it happens.

(43:18):
The energy's the hardest part'cause you don't wanna steal, so
the energy, because that defeatsthe purpose.
Right?
But like, if you have an energy,I would say eviling and getting
both basics is really easy.
The energy's the only hard part.
Yeah.
Like if you have a box that'salready like really free.
Uh, I mean, I, I was like, uh,it was nice playing you, man.
Like, I don't know aboutapology, but I, oh, well.
And then at 3, 1, 1 is this whenI lost my deck?

(43:40):
2 1 3.
Oh, I was 3 0 1.
No, I, I won again, someone elsefirst before losing my deck.
Let me think.
Uh, all right.
I'm not really sure.
Let's just like skip over thatround.
I beat someone.
Uh, and then this is like, likethe, oh, I know how to beat.
I beat a cloth.
I beat a cloth who didn't reallyunderstand the matchup at all.
And so he, it was kind of funny.

(44:01):
He like went really all out atfirst and I met, but like I
managed to just like Jack OmoLux, right?
Him, and he was like superbrick.
And then I like.
Say for a bit, uh, while bumpinga stadium and just like
chilling.
And then I went for a waterpond.
I like, I don't know how helike, didn't have laud to play,
so I, I ended up guessing I wasbonnet and punching it with Piot

(44:21):
to discard the stadium and puthis bonnet at a hundred.
And then later in the game, I,when he like tried to go back
into Bedou while I already hadpigott out, I water upon his
bonnet and his badu to take twoprize cards and he was only at
five.
He, like Badu killed my, um, pigto start the game.
So I was just like, I was upfour or five and I was purely
just winning prize trade.
You won a prize trade?
Yeah, there was like actuallynothing he could do.

(44:42):
It was pretty funny or I thoughtit was pretty funny.
Yeah, I mean they, the part ofthe Right, that's an exact a
prize trade by the pig Yex.
It's literally cooked, right?
Yeah.
They're never gonna miss.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh.
You could always find themissing piece every turn with
using the quick Well, yeah,exactly.
Like you can get the card youneed in your hand.
If you have the card you need,how can you lose?
Right?
Yeah, he exactly.
Uh, Liam's putting it perfectly.

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So that was my first torrentialpump of the tournament.
And then game two, I ed hisresearch and he, like, he's
supposed, he was a nice guy.
It was funny.
He was like very like, cordialand nice, but like, when I like
actually looked at his research,he, um, he got very frustrated
and he just picked up his cards,but he was still like, I don't
know, it was funny.
Like his actions were like sotilted, but he was like very
nice.
I, I thing like, you know, he'sNo, I know, I know.

(45:24):
I'm just saying like, hilarious.
Like I, I feel like No, exactly.
I, I, I say I have a lot ofrespect because I feel like most
people, like they just go silentor like tilt really hard.
But like he was, um, he was, Icould tell he was, and it's
always frustrating to lose.
So like, I, I, I feel a lot ofsympathy.
I respect that guy a lotAnyways, I guess after this
round, I didn't put my deck inmy bag or something.
I don't really know.

(45:44):
it was 4 0 1.
I just, I don't know whathappened.
I like, I don't know, I have notheory, nothing.
And then I, um, show up to,against Charlie Locker who's
playing straight pole and I knewCharlie's list.
He played one of my, the freewaySeattle locals.
Yeah, it's, he thinks that thecornerstone matters because he
could like kill my poetic ex,but actually get straight pull.
It's really important to getthe, the anti Turo Myotic

(46:05):
involved.
No, that, I dunno about thatone.
Yeah.
It's super, super important toget the Antiotic involved.
I mean, because there's noduster to kill your anti, your
antiotic, so then they can't,like, they can never go like
dust nor Turo.
So it's super easy to trap likea bunch of different things that
are able to be trapped.
With the baby, melodic and justchill.
It's like playing a sorority.

(46:26):
Honestly.
You probably would've won, but Imean, I guess since you didn't
have your deck like oh well, butlike you probably would've lost
anyway, so it's all good.
But anyways, this is like atravesty where I sit down like I
don't have my deck, and thenthis is like so funny to me.
Someone at my old table had thesame deck box as me, so like ran
over and just took it.
Just thought like, oh, that ismy dad I literally run back to
my seat.

(46:46):
I open it up.
It's like.
Not my deck in there.
I guess it's just like his extradeck had to run back anything.
Dude, I I, I was filled withadrenaline.
I'm sure he was confused.
He was like, prize checking,bro.
Like the round had alreadystarted.
What?
And like, I like went back, Ilike apologized profusely.
I was like, oh my God.
I'm like so stressed out.
I'm so sorry.
Like I, I, I thought this was mydeck.
I was sitting here, I lost mydeck and he was just very

(47:07):
understanding, I thought.
And so anyways, then, likeCharlie, Charlie's someone I
talked to about this deckbefore, like my deck.
And so he actually had most ofthe pieces in his room, but his
room was a 25 minute Uber away.
And like, given the round hadalready started and stuff, it
was like cutting it extremelyclose.
Right.
So he at first offered to sendme there, but I, I thought about
it and I was like, this is gonnabe such a nightmare.
I'm gonna be like going throughtheir Airbnb, like trying to,

(47:30):
he's like, I can direct youthrough my room.
It's a little messy.
He has like the deck in one ofthese.
I was like, and he doesn't evenhave all the cards.
It's not like he has my exact60.
Yeah.
It's like even after I comeback, I'd have to fix like 10
cars or something.
And I was just like, this soundslike a completely miserable
experience.
Like, I don't want to do thislike.
I think I'm gonna just like, trymy luck.
Just like getting people, likeeither finding it here or like
getting people to help merebuild it.

(47:50):
And like, this is the part wherelike the community like
completely carried.
Um, I told the, the tabletopparents like, what happened?
And like, it was like theAvengers Row, like we had
Princess Dad, Holden, he, hecame out and he was like, yeah,
prince Place Control.
Like, here's like these cards.
And then like, um, Jake ER'sdad, Keith, he came out and he
was like, here's my, my pulldeck that I just dropped with.

(48:12):
Like, take everything you needoutta here.
Like, no worries.
Like, and then this is like whatreally saved me.
There's this guy Jeff, he's uh,he's like the community, like
he's a doctor.
He is like a really nice guytoo.
And he, uh, his, he just came inwith this mega binder and his
kids play SNL wax.
Man, I was so chilling.
I found every single card exceptmelodic, tw on 50.

(48:35):
But the, the kale that ensuedtrying to get this melodic was
actually like, that took themost time at the, these guys
were like, they had me set, theybuilt my deck in like 15, 20
minutes, right?
So I had 59 cards, and then Iwon like a pack of end games off
ki and trivia that I used tosleeve my deck.
Like, it was so lit.
And then I was just like, okay,melodic.
Like I knew my ju the judgescan't like proxy a full deck.

(48:55):
That's like awfully ridiculous,right?
But I figured like one card,like this melodic TWM, like,
please, like the vendors don'thave it.
No one has it.
Please just like, like, youknow, gimme a pass.
You know?
No can do.
I even knew like the t like TGleader or whatever, and she's
like, well, like I, I like, I'msorry, like, I just can't like,
make exceptions like this.
Like if you can't produce a cardthat's damaged, you can't get a
judge proxy.

(49:16):
So I was like, okay.
Like I was saying to myselfthough, like, what's the
difference between like, if Ijust burned a card, faceless or
whatever, it's just like a blankcard.
Like, and I'm like, this was mymelodic, it got burned in like a
fire.
Can I get like a drudge proxy?
Like how is that any differentthan me?
Like I need one card.
Like my deck literally got likeI was stolen or I lost it or
something.
Like, please like help me out.
Like, but anyways, I'm likebegging and like people keep

(49:37):
giving me my, a lot of yx andlike, I was like, obviously
everyone's trying to be helpful,so I was like trying not to get
frustrated.
But like after like the third orfourth person who handed me on
my, a lot of hex, like I wasgetting a little mad, but like,
I obviously like, I don't know,it was fine.
Like it's obviously everyone metit well and like I am, I don't
like, I obviously can't complainabout people being like,
helpful.
I'm like, but it was likefrustrating'cause I'm trying to

(49:59):
like, I get so excited.
'cause like I get like, peoplewho gimme like a lead, they're
like, oh, this guy has on Melo.
And I'm like, run to likewherever they told me they were
and like to show, I show up andit's like Myx.
I was like, I, I have these nowthe issue here.
Yeah.
Okay.
Henry's been waiting this wholetime.
Oh God.
Oh God.
He dropped that a second time.
I, it's a great poll, Henry.
Second time.
It's a great joke.
It's such a bullshit card, solike, it just makes me mad.

(50:20):
So I have to like, sort of like,honestly with all due respect to
you, like I feel like you shouldjust been forced to play like a
second.
My lucky ex, like that would'vebeen fine with me, dude.
But I almost just played a waterbro.
I literally almost played awater because she said like,
because someone said they hadthat in their hotel room and I
was like, maybe I played withMyotic for one round, but thank
God I did not do that becausenext round I'm play against a
guango and like this guy'splaying a 1 1 1 Pul line.

(50:41):
And what?
oh my god.
Yeah.
What s Noreen Nore or something.
Oh, oh, oh, Toronto.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Toronto.
And he, um, because of the poleline, I could very much tell
there's not a second water forGreninja.
'cause that would be absurd.
So he started greninja.
And then he benched clef key andtried to like do that on me and
like, I just like water pawnedhim.

(51:02):
I just knew there wasn't morethan one switch.
I just, I just went for straightwater pawn game two.
I like, I think it's kind offunny, he, um, he, we were
talking about like if we wouldbe down to gentlemans and I was
like, yeah, sure.
No big deal.
I'm, I'm almost down togentleman.
And he, um, he like, he'scompletely locked with a gr
ninja active and he catches thewater to it.
And I was like, I was sittingthere thinking like, do you have

(51:23):
an out to win?
And like, I, I did just say itout loud.
I was like, do you even haveoutside?
He goes like, yeah, maybe.
And he's like trying to bluff, Iguess, that he has a second
water, like attached to anotherenergy.
But like, I was like, I'll lethim do the first Greninja attack
and then we'll like, try afterthat.
You know, like I, I don't evenbe, I like really, really do not
believe this, that there's asecond water energy in your
deck.
So like, even if you have,let's, he's never winning
through like Serena, right?
It is not possible.

(51:44):
Uh.
You could load a bunch of extraon GR Ninja theoretically and
like 99.
99.
Like never drop it, right?
Yeah, but like But then I couldtransition to something else.
Charlie, you can't watch thatstuff.
You put like five energy.
Yeah, I could drop somethingelse.
But anyways, I like checked hisdeck with flu and like AIC him
and I was like, okay.
There was like no outs.
Sure.
And like yeah, at some point Icould just retreat into Bear and

(52:05):
just like win the game.
But just like sitting there witha bear until like make prove
that you can win like bluffing.
Like he maybe like it's gametwo.
I have no clue.
Like I would spazz out and justlike retreat into Badu or
something.
I don't really know.
I don't know what he is helpingbut like Lowkey, he's down one.
Oh.
Like I can respect the track.
Yeah.
I just thought it was funny tomention.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was super chill.
I actually, I really enjoyedplaying.
I just, the, if you're down oneoh like there's no reason to
ever scoop.
Right?
Like I just, well in thatsituation I think I probably

(52:27):
just, I dunno, I've seen youscoop to zero zero against Ross
Coffin, so like, I don't reallyknow what you're talking about,
but uh, well I suppose, yeah, Imean I would scoop maybe in like
a situation like that if it's atlike a lead cup or like, you
know, some other round thatdoesn't matter.
But, oh, you, if I'm incontention still, I'll see.
You would've played that setout.
I mean, you probably should, butlike, bro, anyways, I actually

(52:48):
set, I actually check out, paidout ao set in contention when I
was down four six, bro.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And you won.
Congrats.
This guy, he ran outta energieskind of technique.
Okay.
Anyways, moving on from S Nora,I played against a, um, pretty
easy match.
Been the next round.
I'm like, trying to rememberwhat it was.

(53:09):
Lemme go open on my Twitterpost.
Sorry.
Sorry for being so unpreparedand unprofessional guys after
Theo.
Oh, I guess I didn't, I playedagainst a cloth.
Oh, my cloth opponent.
Actually, this was like,somehow, I think this was more
frustrating than when I lost mydeck.
Genuinely, my opponent turnedone of game one he uses, but he,
he uses trolley and doesn'tventure Oppa Ghost or a Badu.

(53:31):
His board is just completelylocked.
But like, he, he's like, thegame is like taking forever
because he is like not makingany actions, but like it's
taking forever, like.
Because he's like poisoningstuff and like all like, and he
has the baby Peck ran.
So he is like killing stuff atfirst.
And then I get into this niceboard that I've tried in on
ladder when I've like put peoplein spots like this where I had
two pitch yachts and I was justlike retreating between them and

(53:51):
like bossing to stop him fromlike poison killing himself.
He had lads in place so he couldhave like at any point stopped
this like shenanigans by likejust retreating and like keep
trying to kill something.
And then eventually he likealmost killed he, he killed his
baby pacran.
But I made sure it happened intomy turn and I had two flutes and
Selene prepped to like get anon-op on the bench, non-op,
non-bio.
And I got something random andwe still played for about 30

(54:12):
minutes.
And I was, I was like, chilling.
'cause I thought that like atsome point I'm gonna cirrhotic
him and like I'm gonna win.
But at 30 minutes he just likerandomly snapped and just
realized like, oh wait, I'm notgonna win ever like this.
And he just scooped, which I washoping that he would just sit in
the game for like, like I wasnot gonna show the heroic until
like it was much closer to theend.
And then I was gonna like Winwith like five minutes left.

(54:33):
I hoped, but oh well, fiveminutes.
That is, that is, uh, that's alittle too much for the cloth
tank Yeah.
Yeah.
But anyways, you sco and then 20minutes left, you have this
ridiculous game where the coolthing about Laufer's Pig is when
you pigeon out kill the cloth,you bump their stadium and they
die a poison.
So you like, it's, it's like a,like a really strong line.

(54:56):
You're getting rid of theirenergy, you're killing their
cloth, you're bumping theirstadium, and it's typically
coupled with an Iona to four andit's like so natural to do.
But Office Iona to four, Andy'sused Seal Stone already for the
record and no body would playnothing.
His, his five cards are actuallyliterally perfect.
He ends the turn with zero cardsin hand, but he kills my page
with Tropicals.
And then, but he doesn't get alot.

(55:17):
He doesn't play, so he has twoprize cards and a top deck.
Oh.
And he has an extra mochi inhand from his orang group.
Sure.
Then I cc his bonnet.
He has switch card.
I was like, no big deal.
We're, we're super close to timeat this point because the game
had been going on in like aweird circle before this.
So we're super close to time.
I cc his bonnet again, and Isile and I double tail so I
don't get the secret box on topbecause if I get a secret box on
top, I can definitely CC himagain, and like, there's no way

(55:39):
this game ends in time Anyways,I miss, he switch cards again,
and then I lose the game, and sowe tie, I'm 5 1 2.
I'm, I'm very, very, very tiltedat this point.
Like, I'm like inconsolablytilted, but it turns out, you
know, never give up.
Never backed up.
Yeah.
Just I, I gave about a littlebit of a motivational feature.
He was like, He came in and hewas like, begging for sympathy.

(55:59):
Like, this is so bullshit.
And I was like, dude, you gottalock in.
You're still in contention.
5 1 2 is completely fine.
That's not what Henry said to meat all.
But that, that like, no, that'scan, like, not true.
This is true.
This is literally true.
No, this, okay.
Like if we're gonna like,actually stick to the facts.
I was like, can you guys somesympathy?
And then Henry goes like, youknow, like it's variance.
Like this is what happens.
Like, like losing your deck.
Just like, I don't know, likeyou're just trolling.
Like, I don't know.

(56:19):
I he was, he was veryunsympathetic, very believable.
Sorry, I just s stopped left thecall.
I just s stopped left the call.
I, I was actually just sofrustrated.
I was like, I, I like, I need tojust be like consoled and then
like, I don't know like how muchtalk about this.
You're still in contention,dude.
Like you were acting as thoughyou needed like an obituary bro.
But like you were still in thefucking turn.
Dude, Henry is always Oh my, I Iactually can't believe I just
heard those words from Henry,bro.

(56:40):
Yes, I know Henry X one is likebusy bing for free in the call
because he lost the last roundand he.
No.
7 1 1.
He's like literally like themost complaining more than
anyone you've ever heard intheir entire life at 7 1 1.
But like I'm X one two to likeall these ridiculous factors and
like, I'm just gonna, like, I'msupposed to just take it on the

(57:00):
chin, you know?
I'm still in the tournament.
You know, I, I love thisnarrative of bond, like oh my.
It's so true.
It's so true.
So anyways, gonna date two?
I like, there was like a birth,no, no, there was like a
birthday party for like one ofthe kids, uh, for like in
tabletop, I guess Zelda, wellshe does, she's not in tabletop,
but she's like really like,tightly, tightly connected with
tabletop, I guess.

(57:21):
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's actually good pullHenry.
'cause um.
Yeah, Derek told me she, heplayed against her dad at the
New York Cup when Derek was justin New York for a week.
Oh, okay.
And so anyways, there was anopen bar and I was very tilted
And you know, I'm just sayinglike, I found that like I played
better under like some weirdconditions, you know?

(57:41):
So I was, uh, and we were losingan hour's sleep to daylight
savings.
And I, and I didn't care.
I was just so, I was like justtrying to like, uh, but you guys
are wondering why it bonds daytwo performance oftentimes drops
off from the day one.
You maybe now know the reason.
It's too comfortable.
No, I literally never do this,Henry.
This is, that's actually thefunny part.
This is my first time when Istill have day two to play,
getting extremely drunk.
So extremely drunk.

(58:01):
My god.
Alright.
Anyways, I was like, the nextmorning I like barely woke up.
Okay.
This is like not true.
I definitely like, I.
I like, I was able to wake uplike this was, I was like, low,
keep pushing it there.
I was like, able to wake up justfine.
And then once the event, likenormal person had like, um, like
drink of water in the morning,like I was chilling.

(58:23):
I was, it was not like, it wasnot actually like a flu game
type performance.
I was, I was feeling okay.
I was feeling fine.
So anyways, I played, playedagainst the Guard and um, game
one was really free.
He tried, the clra did not work.
Game two, I flipped eight tailson Seline.
I went like, my first pad wasfor like IO and like some other

(58:45):
car that I thought was justgood.
And then my next, I like Lene,Seline failed, failed, padded,
both salines.
And so I was down to pad twosaline and failed, failed.
And so I eight tails, but I wasactually impatient.
I lowkey just forgot that it'spossible for my seline to get
eight tails in a row.
Like that wasn't in mycalculation.
So like, if I just like waited alittle longer, it would've been
way more comfortable.
It like after this, the eighthsi a saline tail hit.

(59:08):
I was like re abouting myposition.
I was like, wait.
Okay.
I still win as long as he onlyhas one rod and he, he only had
one rod.
So iic at the right time I ownand like he had a rod, but I won
by two cards, so that was kindof scary for a bit.
But you know, all this like badvariances, it's not really that
relevant.
Like my neck is just too good.
Was that the one That's whatwe're taking away from this.

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Okay, sure.
It's all good.
It's all good.
Oh yeah, You think?
What the fuck?
a Sarah lunch?
Yeah.
Okay.
And then I went Bedu pass turnone and, or no, he had for whole
first turn I went Bedu pass onmy going second and he just

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target to kill me.
So I lost him.
One in two was playing.
There's so many charades.
Dude.
The one that does 20 damage forone Energy, I believe he has 70
hp, but I don't really remember.
Oh, in your, oh, he's actuallyrewarded bro.
Because I feel like the, like Iwas talking to him with Zing God
before he was about to play Ipromise you he could have found
Ledge evolve like him, bro.
I don't dunno.
I guess.

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I guess I didn't even considerany of that because I saw the 20
started it active, had no basicsand I instantly scooped because
the game was on board.
So anyways, game two, I'm likethinking that this is gonna be
so hard'cause I prized the bigmyotic, the myotic that stop
Terrace from attacking it.
He had Paul, he as an out, but Ilike, I was so concerned about
what was gonna happen, but Ijust doubled down.

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He put spirit to him.
By the way, I doubled down thatlike I'm not gonna try to like
draw a prize card and like getbig my loading like.
Bad things will happen.
There'll be too many guys on myboard to Gus and like, I'm not
gonna win that way.
But I managed to like goad himinto like, just keep killing my
piggy with jet energies.
Like, I was like, I sat therewith my tur myotic and LA on a,
on a tomb and this guy was likeso impatient.

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Like didn't wait for a boss oranything.
He just like jet energy.
Greninja killed my piggy.
And I was like, okay, this isthis.
That was terrible.
But I was like, maybe I can getit to do it again.
So like bossed and like, or CC'dI guess, and like best another
pitchy and like healed and put acharm on my active, he like did
it again.
So he's taking, he's used twojets to take two prize cards,
which is still fine.
I, I somehow got him to like jetone more time.

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To not even kill a pitchy, justto kill a lax.
Like, I, I don't even know, likeif my opponent just like, stop.
And like, and the best part washe was sitting next to me during
my guardian opponent and he toldme, he's like, I don't really
know what you're playing, butyou like, have someone on a saw
block.
I'm gonna be like, he said, heliterally told me he's gonna be
extra careful, you know?
And like I was, we've beenrecently talking about like, if
you lie to your opponent, likeit's like you can get a penalty.

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And I was thinking like, youknow, maybe you can get a
penalty for this.
'cause like he said he was gonnabe extra careful and he was like
extra, like risky.
I don't even know.
Like, he just completely usedevery jet for like, no reason.
It was, it was a, it was ablessing, you know, like
everything had to gone wrong forthis point.
And then when he used the thirdjet for no reason and took only
one prize card, I was like, oh,I can just win this game pretty
easily.
And then I kind of got worriedfor a second that like, maybe

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I'm missing something, maybelike a hard switch on top of
this.
Like that's why he did it.
But no, there was, there was noreason playing catcher, he
playing the blender or what?
He was playing Blender.
Yeah, that's correct.
Because yeah, I know that Ithink people thought the Prime
shit shirt was better, like whenWinding and Co were playing it.
Yeah.
And then game three, like heknows what's gonna happen, but
I, he, like, first I start Waterpond, he, his hand is so

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unfortunate.
He has, he has a be he bench tosquawk and he jets into it and
then squawks away another jetand he forgets to retreat or
something.
I, I don't know if he forgot orlike, he didn't think it was
good, but he didn't retreat.
So I like had DT e in hand and Ijust like got a piggy and just
sobbed.
And then I, I like got, becauseyou know, I just have like two
supporters in your hand for somereason.
Well he also Ben spare it too,so like Oh, I was just kidding.

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I was completely locked intothis line anyways.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways.
Yeah, you are correct.
I did have Nest Ball Arvin andlike an out to V or like two
supporters and again, nest Balltwo supporters.
That's actually what, not theclassic.
Yeah, the classic.
Yeah, like use Arvin Turn oneNest two.
Oh, you're gonna turn two.
Wow, sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not, not mad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Henry's not mad, but he's likeextremely mad.

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Anyways, got the opponent andI'll say he was very gracious.
I told, I asked him at the startof round game two, which was
kind of crazy'cause it was 45minutes left if he'd be down a
gentleman's, if we got to a gamethree and, and at this point a
loss is outta the tournament andI tie maybe top three, two and
he's like, um, yeah sure thatseems reasonable.
And he, he is feeling reallygood about that'cause he just
won be very fast.

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So then like when we got down toa game three, he was out of jet
energies and out of outs andhe's only out was the boss by
Melo twice.
And hope I didn't have outs.
So I just showed him that I hadtwo water energies, a switch
cart and a stretcher and themissed energy.
And then he was like, oh, okay,well that's five retreating outs
and a pitch IX so this was nevergonna work.
And then he skipped it up.

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So I like I have a lot ofrespect because like against you
can just decide like at anypoint, not to just tie, but
obviously he's hoping that likeif he got to spot where he was
winning to look enough jets leftthat like he, I was gonna scoop
and like that's obviously thecase.
So like it's not just a freeroll.
Like he had some like, uh, heobviously has some compensation,
but I don't know.
Anyways, appreciate him scoopingnext game I play this a guard

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and I got rolled game one.
I dunno how this one?
No, no, I got rolled game one.
Oh, surprised.
Oh wow.
I like, I just had a terriblehand just like, oh, you hold up
a masterful one Oh technique onyou or uh, no, this game took
about eight minutes.
So Thatt really work there,there are dogs who could get it
done.
I personally could not get itdone, but I, I agree with you.
There are dogs who could get itdone.
Yeah, I agree with you.

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But I think that if he triedthat he would've been just short
and then we would just tie it.
Because I asked him after gametwo if he was down at Gens and
he said yes.
And when he was complete, lockedin game two after about five
minutes,'cause my hand wascompletely un unbelievably
broken.
He, um, he just scooped.
So we had like 30 minutes forgame two or game three.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So this is why like, it was likea lost one win, but it was no
gens because the first two gamestook like eight minutes to pop

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or something.
Like, there was like so muchtime.
We got, got deck checked and hewas actually super chill.
We were like playing a fun game.
I, I had my like friends, likepul our deck that I used to like
dismantle some of it, build mydeck again.
And we were just like playing agame where we'd like take, each
person would take half the deckand we were like drawing,
opening hands.
So we saw like unfair stamp, butthen we like, we like kept
adding more rules.
Like if someone had unfair stampand the other person had like Zd

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Pul, that that was a win.
But if someone had all threefires and the unfair stamp that
could count, like it was just a,it was like a fun game.
I don't know.
I actually took like, kind oflong, so it was pretty chill.
I, I thought it was a fun game.
Anyways, game three, he actuallymakes a huge mistake.
He, um, he.
He has the vacuum to charm toget rid of the charm, clef key
or whatever, to k like I waslocking clef key and he killed

(01:05:28):
it.
Um, he didn't put the clef downvoluntarily.
I had flu.
And then he, um, he didn't usethis opportunity to fix, he had,
he like took a prize early withdrifting, but he didn't use this
opportunity like fix hisenergies at all.
What he should have done waslike, probably promote the
drifting retreat into screamtail and kill my myotic and hope
for no Turo after io me tofight, or sorry, not like hope
for no like reset of melodic sohe could Turo.

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So like he could io me, but hedidn't do that.
He just like already killed mywater pond.
So Mylo, I didn't play it.
And I just like gusted again andI won.
Uh, so that was pretty chill.
And then the last round I playedabout that.
Yeah, pretty bad spot, right?
Because.
And stretcher right off five andlike, like obviously you have
the pitch out to fill it, butlike the chance of fitting the
two is really unlikely.
Secret box was in my deck, bro,but Oh, secret box deck, right.

(01:06:12):
Oh, oh, oh, okay.
Well, but I did make a mistake,Henry, you I was kind of messed
up my, my as I lean and I didn'tshuffle my deck that turn, which
was really bad.
So I let the secret box get intomy hand, which was bad.
Oh, I am, okay.
Yeah, I see.
Yeah, that's what I should havedone was after I made that
mistake, I should have instantlyIOed to like fix my deck, like

(01:06:33):
io then shuffle my deck.
And so my deck is like, has, Ihad so many good cards in my
hand, it was ridiculous.
Like obviously io I actuallydrew like five terrible cards.
You actually probably would'vegot you if you'd made the right
player, right?
Because that's like a lot ofpressure.
Oh, well you have to find a, youhas to find Turo and I, I bench
fez early, so.
I would have been, we would'vehad a game.
I would've basically probablypiggy out a secret box and then

(01:06:54):
fest and like, but yes, I likeruined my outs by like doing it
like the way I did.
So this bravery, charm, charmthing, like yeah, this, this
lost vacuum charm thing is, uh,pretty good.
I think it makes a match.
I think if he did a bunch ofother things right, he could
have made the game veryinteresting.
But obviously free removal nomatter what.
And also donating like that.
That's pretty good.
Yeah, he like, so then the next,he said he played two charm,
right?
Like two charms back flight.
He played two charm in the back.

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He favorite?
Yeah.
I don't think it's favorite.
That's completely ridiculous.
I swear Henry like, oh my god.
Favorite Henry, if you like todonate another$50, I'm super
down.
Anyways.
I, okay, go ahead.
Anyways, yeah, the next round ofplaying has a pull, uh, in game
one I prized my four seal stone.
So after like I had this likereally nice secret box turn, but

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the problem was I could, like, Icould evo into PTO there, which
I did end up doing, but I had toput IO in my hand instead of
Arvin for the seal stone.
So I literally just had to drawPTO off io plus like, one is the
charge before, like my board gotdestroyed.
Um, yeah, we're playing wasobviously gonna be me.
Clearly not very reasonable,right?
Yeah.
So, yeah, I know, I know.
But like that, that was, thatwas actually that turn took me

(01:07:57):
forever.
I would say that was probably mylongest turn of the tournament.
'cause I, like, I was looking atmy hand, uh, I was my like
second I guess.
Yeah, I was my second.
I was looking at my hand and Ilike had a clear plan during
this entire turn of like what Iwas gonna do and I was gonna set
myself up so perfectly.
Like my, like I was gonna big myload, I was gonna evo and then
have seal stone.
I was basically gonna do theguard track because like his
turn was kind of weak.

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And like, when that, when Irealized Seal stone wasn't in
deck, like it, like I had somany new plans going through my
mind that it just like took meforever, like to do, but there,
get to the pitch reliably,right.
Definitely not.
There was no way to likeguarantee anything that I, I
guess like IO or like Yeah,exactly.
So anyways, I lost that game andthen game two, I hit him with

(01:08:38):
the Badoo, uh, nose osa becauseI didn't prize it, but Badoo set
on my water pond, kill both dustgoals.
And then I had a really nicespot where later he had used one
dust winner for something, andthen I punched his, uh, pulp and
he left it active even though hewoke up and I just retreated
into Bair to go down to oneprize.
And it was like, pretty muchCheck man, pitch you out.

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I went to one prize and yeah, hehad like a duster on the bench
and like a, yeah, and a dustbowl as well.
So like, but I don't know, helike kind of, he, I think he
could have done more stuff tolike dust nor io or something,
but yeah, I don't think heexpected the bear.
Anyways, game three, my pun wassuper down to gentleman's, which
I have a lot of respect for,because at that time actually,
like, I think a tie would'vebeen one K each.

(01:09:20):
But he was like, he had theright mindset.
Like, you know, this is a, thisis a pretty reasonable matchup.
And like, uh, let's try to cut,right?
Like.
Let's, let's gentlemen and I, I,I think the out like of course,
like if we, if we can't agreewho's favorite, then we'll just
tie.
'cause like we'll both make onek like fine.
Sure.
But luckily he didn't leave itvery ambiguous.
He lumi for IO to like try todisrupt me and then he had used

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his Turo for like, Alex exam atone point just to like keep
putting the pressure on.
So when I CC Water Pond, hisLumi, there were no TURs deck.
And so, and his dust north linewas too thin at that point.
Like he played a three two or 31 2, the standard and two
candies.
But he had like gone through toomuch stuff to like have any wind
threats.
So he was very gracious and likehe did concede.

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It was funny.
I would, I had like a 20 cardhand when I CC'd water upon him,
but I Iona just to like limithis options just so that like
our discussion would be easierin our gentleman's because his
hand was like bricked off theIona.
Well, I mean, it should bebrick, right?
It's like three cards plus onetrack look.
So yeah, I thought, yeah,literal from a trap, like Yeah.
Yeah.
But I, it was just so that likehis hand wasn't too big so that

(01:10:24):
he couldn't like, cope too hard.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think it was like a good tech.
I like added that to my backimmediately.
Uh, I played against, so I'm anAsim now.
Pretty, pretty high playingagainst Lucia.
Uh, I mean, last time I was incut with I lost with Lucia, so I
was a little nervous about that,but, and I had no information on
his deck.
He was like kind of some, likeevery other person in cut.

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I knew their deck pretty well,but Joe Filiana, like no one
knew anything, right?
All we knew was playing Lucia.
It turned out his list is likeeven worse than, like, I
could've even like imagined itdidn't have water pond.
It doesn't have weird ear, andit only has a one, one cina.
So it's like, look at this.
What's he playing?
He has like, rads are luminous.
It's like one of his things.
He has bundle, but uh, his neckis just genuinely terrible.

(01:11:07):
So he just, um, game one, Ialso, he like doesn't really
understand that you're like.
You need to be like preloadingwith arch ops, even though
there's Giacomo because likeyour arch ops are gonna die.
He like never really preloadedgame one.
And so I just like, he like wentto four and then at some point
he killed my Badu.
So he went to three, or maybethis was not the game.

(01:11:28):
Maybe game three is the one hekilled Badoo.
But anyways, he goes to four.
I attached my bear and just likechill.
He doesn't do anything for aturn.
I think I like CCed his archosand just chilled and he doesn't
do anything.
I just like instantly DT Pennykill the archos.
He doesn't preload anything.
So his board literally has likeone Lucia and like one archos
with four energies and it's soeasy.
It's like penny cc Gigi fromthere.
Um, he hits some bosses to makeit close though.

(01:11:50):
He like boss killed my couldn'tpick it up in time.
And then he did hit the firstboss on my p on, but, so I guess
there was like a, there was awindow where he could have water
upon me, but now knowing what Iknow, he actually does not play
water pond.
So I was chilling.
So anyways, game one.
That's game one.
And then game two.
Uh, similar, similar thingshappen, but I mess up.

(01:12:11):
I think at some point I likeallow a bundle to hit my pitch
out when I could have likebenched a blocks or something.
Uh, like, I don't know, I just,like, I thought I was like super
winning either way.
So I thought, like, leave myboard limited.
I wasn't really sure like whatthe downside was, but I had seen
the bundle, so this was a puremisplay by me, but then off Iona
to one, he hit the, the boss.
So I, I just needed him to nothave it there and I was fine.

(01:12:34):
It's okay.
Uh, like I'd kill all his chops.
Like after Diana one, I could'veliked jock mode and then I've
been fine.
But anyways, I lost game two.
And then game three I go first.
And like he has like his worsthand in the series.
He has like, he has to read thewind.
I flew, but I miss, so his bunchis like, not full, but it has
two loomie on it.
So I guess, I guess I hit, I hitlike two Mies off, two flutes.

(01:12:55):
Wait.
Oh, you did it.
Oh, okay.
I was like confused.
I, I didn't get to lock, lockhim out of chops.
I guess.
Like saying I miss is verydishonest.
What the fuck?
I don't know.
I'm like so delusional.
Okay.
Like I actually thought, there'sso many guys in there that I was
like, I should lock him outtachops with the second I hit
first.
Not playing.
A lot of the guys, I'm mostlylike, I'm looking at his list.
There actually aren't that manyWell, I know this is what I was
thinking at the time.
Right.
But like, I was just thinkinglike.

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He bench on Lumi voluntarily.
I flew to a Lumi and likeanother guy, like a Lua and I
was like, ah, dude, like I'm onefoot away from just winning and
he's just chilling.
So like, let's just do it.
And then I missed.
But this game was the mostcomfortable, this is the most
comfortable game by far becauselike I just like went on the
prize trade at the end.
I like secret box.
I like pride secret box.
I drew it off my, like on mythree, four prize cards.

(01:13:37):
And then I like switched balls.
And then I also lee in likereally, really like really fast
fashion.
He knew to like to shut the piotafter the mist comes down and
like it was reallyuncomfortable.
Game two, he actually prized thepeck ran and I had a lot of
owls, but I like could not setup a piot.
This was like the first timewhere like, I'm not under any
duress, no item lock.
He even put the hooks up andplay that I'm spinning every
turn and like I just cannot getanything together at ice lose.

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So that's my tournament.
Pretty lit, pretty lit.
Pretty lit.
We're all very proud of ourfriend.
The top eight.
Pretty cool.
Yeah, hopefully this episodeairs on unlike Henry's, uh, It's
all good.
I'll just be winning anothertournament just like Pokemon and

(01:14:22):
then this time ob.
Hello?
Hello.
Let me into a Stockholm, please.
It's my bad.
I definitely was supposed toreg, I didn't really think about
it until like last week.
You were such Henry.
If you had asked me, I would'vetold you to register.
This is my favorite lie, That'svery useful and constructive.
Thank you for sharing Dude.
It's no bullshit, dude.
Like I have, like, we can take,we can take something away from

(01:14:43):
this in the future.
We ask Liam and we listen towhatever he says.
Hmm, Liam, should I go toBrisbane?
Should I go to Brisbane?
Nah, I don't think so.
You made that.
Oh, okay.
He's balanced.
He's balanced.
Well, it's, um, it's also soldout as a lot.
I was so desperate.
I I was so desperate.
I checked too when we couldn'tget into Stockholm.
I really wanna play this Xthrough another event, but Yeah.

(01:15:03):
Well, I mean, like, I, I havelike, I already listed
essentially like a hundred zerosthe entire format and it's just
gonna have to like, sit in raw.
Well, not really am I, Henry,Henry says this every single
format, but then if you look atwhat you, it was ang, I didn't
say it for UICI, I literally didnot say it for UIC.
So you're Yeah, that's true.
Whenever I say that's true, Itrying was actually good.
And like this time you're, yourToronto was so bad too, by the

(01:15:23):
way.
Well, it, the mall was reallysmart, but the stamp is so bad.
Fair stamp was bad.
Yeah.
And like I lo I got like, Ibricked and lost.
It was deserved for playing onfair stamp.
I mean, those bricks were like alittle egregious, even by
bricking standards, but it's allgood.
Um, but yeah, this time, youknow, we, we did, we're not
playing the stamp obviously.
We, we are definitely not doingthat.
Um.
Yeah, I mean, like I, I wasreally, I was a little
disappointed in Vancouver.

(01:15:43):
Like I thought Gardy definitelyshould have done better, but I
feel like people's lists weren'tthat great.
And also there was somequestionable gameplay when I was
watching Onstream, so was hopingthat I could go ahead and give
it a full ride at Stockholm, butseems like that's not gonna be
the case.
But I think, oh, by the way, ifanyone's wondering, oh, sorry, I
didn't mean to interrupt.
Sorry.
Sorry.
No, no, go ahead.
Go ahead, go ahead.
I was gonna say that like if thetwo more analysts that were like

(01:16:03):
the most pop, like the two bestones I think were like me or
like Caleb Rogerson, he had, um,the vacuum that, that can be
annoying because the charm, likeif they don't play vacuum, the
charm is going everywheresomewhere.
concept where like every, it's athing on the road game, right?
What do you mean every, no, no,no, no.
At some point when you've drawnenough of your deck, it lets you
like charm your lax so that yourlax doesn't die when the hand

(01:16:25):
hits the third energy or the muthe third energy.
It's, it's, which is veryhelpful.
The rod is like the lets youYeah, of course it stays on the
rodo for like a while, but likeYeah, exactly.
You understand?
Yeah.
But like, you can win obviouslyby like milling, like, uh, or
like catching something off flu,right?
That's like the easiest way towin.
But like, you can also, like,they have to have all their
energies in deck and good boardmanagement and like, even then

(01:16:46):
it's like kind of close.
If they're able to win with onlyone switch cart, I'm not really
sure because like some of thePokemon one, when they get their
last energy, they don't kill youeven after charm.
Like Riku doesn't kill you ifyou only have two locks at the
IQ point.
Point.
It's, it's, uh, yeah, it'sperfect math.
Yeah.
So anyways, um, that, and thenthe Azo list is so terrible for

(01:17:07):
you.
It has two switch cards, primecatcher and canceling cologne
which is just ridiculous.
Like, oh my god.
Oh, you kind self, right?
Yeah.
It's, it's a tricky one to playfor sure.
What did they come from?
Their deck?
I'm looking at this aula.
It's actually pretty Oh, thePikachu, the secret box.
Yeah.
They, they cut all the Pokemon.
There's no Lajas, right?
Oh, there's no Lato.

(01:17:29):
No, LA is wild.
Wow.
This guy hates Ma.
Holy shit.
Well, this guy kind of hatesguard war.
He's got the clone in here forthe clef key and he's got the
seven switch out for the malMan.
It's, it's a ridiculous list.
I mean, I think it Goddessdeserved place, but like, I'm
not really sure.
Topic.
Yeah.
Seems was reasonable.
Seems, yeah, it seemed like it'slike a topic two list, but I
don't know.
It was, I, I was listening alittle Bit's podcast and he was

(01:17:51):
saying like he thought this wasbroken and like, I mean, clients
didn leave when he says stufflike that, but I don't knows.
Pretty good.
I mean, the Defi fan was good.
I was telling them to play thedef fine fan, bro, that that was
actually way too lit.
Yeah, dude, this Maria MirandaIndexings pretty good.
Like if you just like assumeturn one amp, like the deck
like, which is like notridiculous.
It's like, it's pretty good.
Like I thought Lotio in secretbox like really helps doing
these things, but I'm not sure.

(01:18:12):
Yeah, I.
I agree.
Like does deck feels so muchbetter when you can just like
bench everything.
Right?
And like, you thin your deck outso much with the, for the
generators, like it's like thisdeck feels too straightforward
and a little too honest, but I'mnot sure it a m the deck deck
function is so much better,right?
I this deck is like far moredishonest than like the secret
box version.
No, but I'm just saying theprime picture and stuff and more

(01:18:32):
being straightforward.
It's like more like yeah, it'show hoping that go right
naturally.
And then it's trying to win likea, a real game as opposed to
just like running them off theboard in like two turns, right?
Like yes, like I'm, I'm going tohit prime.
Like that's what I need.
And like I don't, I thought itwas, that's, I think it's a
good, I actually really like thelist, but I don't know if I
would describe this, but I'llsay like the guango matchup by
the way is like super, superfree.

(01:18:53):
Um, I'd say Guango after guardwar is like your next best
matchup.
So I thought it was wonderinglike, well bro, they're saying
all the memos are playing Rigidband after this, bro.
Oh, rigid band.
How's that Helpful Defiance bandwith the rigid band.
Oh.
Oh, you're gonna them right on?
Yes.
Wait, you saying they're goingbanned for band?
Yeah.
Yeah.

(01:19:14):
This is actually generational.
This a great poll.
Not scripted.
Not scripted.
It's actually not scripted.
I dunno how you said it.
This kind of stuff can only haveoccur naturally random, like
randomly.
But yeah, I'm looking at Kairight now and I'm just saying
this, our guy, he was playingscuba cycle and not prime
picture like Brent, so I wasgonna beat him a Neil was

(01:19:35):
playing no dust star, so I wasgonna beat him.
TRV Reed, I was gonna beat him.
Robinson had vacuum, so closeone.
Bui, I did not beat him.
Zing, I was for sure gonna beat.
And Drake is like.
Is actually so good at the gamethat, and Drake is like the
person I played ghost.
Never being, you'd never, ever,ever.
No, no, no.
I don't agree.
Okay.
I'm complete agreement withHenry, bro.
He has to win one of two games.

(01:19:56):
Your FZ, it's cut rules.
It's Drake and it's Atch.
We're like, wait, how do welike, I'm sorry.
Okay.
I always wanna say like, okay, Iagree.
I actually think obviously Drakeis the favorite.
And I'm just saying like some ofthe factors that are
interesting.
Drake is the person before thisevent I'd played the most of the
matchup with, and like, I thinkthe matchup is pretty like, I
don't think it's as bad as theseguys are saying it.
I think that that finalswould've been really, really fun

(01:20:17):
to watch.
I think Drake would've probablywon.
But I'm just saying that like,this is not like Drake would've
just rolled me over, bro.
I think that would've been likea banger, like a generational
DR.
For like just, just agenerational Drake finals, you
know, like NAC loans.
We got it.
Generational finals, bro.
Oh my God.
Oh my.
Like no, that's true, but likeholy moly, dude.
He was.
Yeah, but like this final, Ikind of, I I, it's like kind of

(01:20:39):
not that sick when you rememberthat like, game one he loses and
game two, he's, he's like supersupposed to lose, like thing
played and then like, yeah.
Game three is like honestly kindof a, like a terrorist maneuver
too.
But I mean, he played Yeah.
And game three's like he playedit well, but like that game like
low key just plays itself.
Right?
So like, but like lost No, no,no, no.
Should have lost Stop, stop,stop, stop, stop.

(01:21:00):
I don't like the area you'respinning right now.
Drake is top one A I mean worldknow, but I'm just saying that I
think the potential of me, meDrake finals was way higher in
terms of like hype ness.
No, but I don't know you fuckingbad dude.
And your entire shit was gonnaget gone.
And then game two, no bet.
You'd actually get a page add upand you'd still lose and it's
like, okay, well I guess we No,no, that's ridiculous.
I would've got page up one ofthe games and won.

(01:21:21):
And then Drake would've likedone some time trick on me where
he like perfectly manipulatesthe clock, takes one prize in
the right turn and then goeslike dust or dust or cecc.
I, I had by one prize Gigi kidand then that in it.
Yeah, well anyway, like it'sreally easy to say all these
things we like, we're saying thesame thing.
I think Drake is gonna win, butI think that that would be the
thing.
No, like the way you're sayingit, like you haven't, I told

(01:21:42):
before, that's not like abanger, but like first of all,
it's not a banger.
Second of all, you have not satacross from Drake at a major,
especially in Top Cut.
It does not feel good.
You're not like, oh, this islike a, oh, you wait.
Henry actually has likefirsthand experience.
Do you wanna tell us about that?
Henry?
Like, yeah.
Yeah, like I, how much Aura didhe have?
Like I had him at top and IClike, this is when like, I
didn't really like know thatmuch.
Like I didn't know a lot ofpeople.
I was like, oh, Andrew Hedrick,apparently this unc, you know,

(01:22:02):
he wanted I hope there's like nodead horse in the audience
because they're certainly beingbeat, bro.
That's for sure.
Dude, I'm not even like Liam isthe one who says this stuff.
Like I, you know, like me, likeI just re facts here.
I'm just wondering.
It just felt hopeless.
Like it, I, he just like, Icould have dropped a mani you to
block his ninja and I justdidn't.
I blinked and then my curlyswere gone.
I'm like, oh my God.
Oh my god.
No drink.
No.
Does this even sound high levelto anyone listening?

(01:22:24):
Like, oh, I did a bench man, andthen he gr oh my god, he you on
guy.
Subtle details, right?
Things that look obvious becomessubtle details.
And you're drag, bro.
Like most people, like don'texpect like the wash box deck to
work that well.
And then Drake starts cookingthough.
Cook the vacuum thing.
Like, dude, I, I had did, fuck,I dunno.
I was like, I, I like playedagainst Ani and like, that was

(01:22:46):
easy.
I, I feel like you would knowthis bro.
Drake Obox bro.
Like.
He like shatters, likeworldview, right?
This is like 2012.
LeBron on the heat, dude.
Like this is like actuallyridiculous, right?
Like he, he's playing lost.
It's the big trick.
Okay.
Okay guys.
Okay.
Alright.
I, I failed that.
But like I said, some of thatwell just like, not ridiculous
to say that, right?
It's not, it's not.
I'll say though that his, um,his game against, like his, gave

(01:23:09):
me AAL game too, and like alsohis, uh, oh my god, his game
against Trevor Reed.
Those are, those are some like,like he's Drake never, he never
flinches.
He is.
Always, always.
So present, dude.
Okay.
Please.
I'm actually getting a headachethough.
Just like, please.
Anyway, we like come back at theend of the tunnel every single

(01:23:31):
time.
Even if the tunnel is like so,so long.
Bullshit, man.
I like some, you know, I don'teven understand how anyone walks
out to me and says they miss thetrash lunch.
'cause like, this is like whatour like, like our first years
of Like, alright, alright.
Like, I literally dunno howanyone could like miss this at
all, but, okay.
Well, no, no.
Our podcast is amazing.
Um, I think full ownership ofit, we should have some really?

(01:23:52):
Is that true?
Because I remember like afteryou won the event, like San
Antonio, you like went on theshift gear and said trash lunch
is trash at like, like the name.
And like, I never wanna do thatpodcast again.
I remember you saying all that.
I, I've taken over productionduties now, so there's no
worries.
The episode will actuallypublished Dude, I hope this ever
gets aired just so that like,this will be like the funniest
thing I've ever heard.
Like it was like unreleasedepisode that like had like

(01:24:14):
masterclass by me and this islike, no one has ever heard I
even say that.
I just said I to cover recordingmeeting.
Okay.
Okay.
I, I am, I'm glad we, we needlike an experience like veteran
voice walk room over recordingLiteral my life, but No, I'm
aware.
You're just like old as shitSure.
I've actually cut it down tomaybe like, stream because I, I
like, I've been like, I've beengetting a little bit mad behind
the scenes'cause you know, Idon't, I don't have any events

(01:24:36):
to go to.
I couldn't make Vancouver andthen I, I miss Stockholm, right?
You're gonna start streaming.
Henry.
I might need to like, challengepeople to money matches and then
stream it so I can like, feelsomething with this format.
Format.
I.
S stack of shit, so We'll yeah,know it's a z.
Oh no, no, dude.
Henry new pc.
Maybe I stream and we'll play,we'll play like Chip and stuff.

(01:24:57):
Pc, I'll host it.
Profits or what?
Yeah, Henry, like, uh, you'veactually won two this year.
Ad revenue.
What the fuck?
Yeah, you've want two majorsthis year.
So like, we have to like,distribute the products, like
the profits in less fortunateOkay, bro, you've cashed last
two events.
I don't want to hear shit, bro.
Like I not cash much, dude.
You, it's Casey.
The four boxes in my room, bro.

(01:25:18):
It's like a whole extra band.
Like, I never even like realizelike how, like how much it is
like Yeah, it's just like forthis set, like this set is like
insane for some reason I don'treally follow the collecting
stuff that much, but yeah, thislike the stellar crowd is like
trash, I'm pretty sure.
But, uh.
Well, yeah, you just chose like,I know when to win, you know,
not even win, I just know whatto do.
Well.
Oh, okay.
Good.
Good.

(01:25:38):
I won one in in uh, oh God.
What even, what was it?
What did I get at Baltimore?
Was it Masque?
Yeah.
Was this because it, theshredded table was a mini set,
right?
So I guess it must've been,yeah.
Twi Masque.
What the fuck?
That's terrible.
Um, I'm gonna wait.
So that means you could havehelped me out.
If you're at this event, youcould opened up your three boxes
and got a myotic from me, Beth.
Dude, you know, I like, I wouldliterally open that shit and

(01:25:59):
like throw it into a fire rightin front of your face with all
due respect.
And I wouldn't let you get theburned remains so you could get
to Judge Proxy.
I would like ate it.
Okay.
I was literal.
You actually read me so Wellthat doesn't even matter.
Like all I have to do is liketake the ashes and I'm chilling.
I.
Okay.
Um, okay, so yeah, we're notgonna Stockholm, like ab and I,
Liam's gonna Stockholm'causehe's, he's living in Europe now,

(01:26:21):
so, uh, I dunno.
Yeah, and Liam's like havinglike a complete identity crisis
because sometimes we're checkinga good performance for him.
DraftKings, or no, no, no.
Lemme make you very clear.
No, no.
Lemme make it very clear.
If it's Liam guy plays likeanything that isn't like a, like
a serious, serious patriot deck,I don't expect anything from
him.
If he plays a serious Patriotdeck, I think he's top four for
sure.
But like If he plays likesomething like, okay, alright.

(01:26:43):
Yeah.
I said, yeah, tech already.
Dude, this guy is just likesaying anything, bro.
Like, oh my God, I, no, it's, I,I, I have good chances too, bro.
Like, it was like, no, no.
I'll bet money, I'll bet moneyagainst Liam on Dragon Pool.
Not because Liam's bad at DragonPool.
I just like, I just don'tbelieve it.
You know?
Like that's like, you're justlike blaming him and saying
like, oh, but not because he'sback.
Like, what the fuck?

(01:27:03):
Like, what does that Well, yeah,but then can't him back, can't
him back, bro.
It's like, like I, I don't thinka bond is like, seen me, see me
in tournament that much, bro.
Like, I, like even, I likesometimes when I play too much
on my own, like, and I'm not inan event.
I like start to doubt myself,but then I get into tournament
time and like tournament time.
William is not, oh my God.
Do not, do not open up Liam'slimitless page from this year.

(01:27:25):
Any event.
That's not Orlando, bro.
I like, oh no.
And don't just not open up hislimitless.
Make sure not to open up his PTladder.
'cause then like then there's areal horse in there.
Be Jesus Christ.
Man.
I'm, bro, I'm just, I'm justitching to like play with the
cards again.
Tournament time, Liam.
It doesn't even last the wholetournament by the way.
Like when you like don't orwhatever.

(01:27:46):
Yeah.
Highly tournament time.
Liam is like half a tournament,bro.
Like, damn, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, bro, like, obviouslyonce we get to the end, it's
like ridiculous that they haveus playing for so long.
Like, you know, we're, we're alittle bit tired.
Right.
But like, bro, I just feel, I'mlike, it's like, it is like when
I'm most alive, like, especiallywhen I'm on that bubble, bro.
And I like.
You know, do or die every singleround, bro.
Yeah.
He loved being O2 star.

(01:28:07):
Like, this is so high.
We're on the bubble.
We have to win from here.
Like, God forbid, he just haslike a cruise to dude.
Oh my God.
I'm like, oh my, I'm so excitedfor stock, bro.
Like no matter what I played,played, you had like two
tournaments.
Top fade have been both sides ofthe spectrum.
I had the LA where I was likenever missing cut and I scoop my
last round and I had like the, Iwas 5 1 2 have to win like every
single round.
There is no way you prefer thestupid bubble thing where like

(01:28:29):
every single round you like lookat your opponent, like, are you
gonna make us tie and like,we're just gonna like, yeah.
Cut.
Or I think I might have beyondLiam's side, I mean like in
retrospect like, like going likethrough the gala, it's like
fucking lit, dude.
Like what do you mean?
Like both my events, it's onlylit.
It's only lit if you got to atthe end and you got to do a
cheat code and you're like, ohyeah, we're gonna make it to the
gala.
Like, okay.
Like, yeah, like if the questionis, Hey, would you rather spend

(01:28:50):
the day two at nine over seventwo?
Like, yeah.
Like, no fucking shit, dude.
But like, I, I think what Liamis saying that like, you know,
like compared to the average,all the feelings associated with
being in the golf, I feel alive,bro.
I feel more alive on the bubble.
I hate it.
I, I like having a game to give,bro.
I like having a game to give.
Well, dude, no, that's exactlythe thing, bro, is like, when
you have that game to give you,like, start to get complacent,
bro, you're like, oh, like, uh,it's okay if I lose this one, I

(01:29:12):
hate No, no, it's not okay.
If you lose this one, like Yougotta stay like locked in, bro.
Like I'm most locked in whenlike, yeah.
You don't understanding though,like I, I dunno, I feel like
such despair, like even middleof the set when I have nothing
to give.
Like, I don't have a game togive.
And like, I know I can feel thatI'm about to lose.
Like, I feel such despair likewashing over me mid game, bro.
It's like actually liketerrible.
It's like terrible mental.

(01:29:32):
And I like, don't agree, like,it's not a good thing to do.
I'm just saying that happens tome, bro.
But like, I, I don't know man.
Dude, I'm just like addicted tolike that tournament experience,
bro.
I, I like, even though it like,feels like bad, I like.
I love the feeling, bro.
I like, oh, Turner are lit.
I mean, Turners are like, turnerare lit thing ever.
I mean, yeah.
What the fuck?
I mean, that's why I need to getstuck on Hello Pokemon.
You know, I was telling peoplethis like, bro, dude, people do

(01:29:56):
not agree with this, bro.
Like, I was telling someonelike, major's like the best part
of life, like, they're likeactually the most lit shit ever.
And they're like, no, bro, youlike, you're just like a kid
that you don't understand.
I'm like, no, bro, I think youdon't understand.
You parents in Seattle.
I'm like, yeah, I don't know ifthat's gonna be, no, it was
like, uh, outside, outside tolike Chano and Derek who like,
just the two, like complacent.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I, right.

(01:30:17):
Sorry.
I mean, yeah, I don't know.
It's like the best thing, likethe reason why we travel for
weekends and like do this shit.
Right.
Like it's pretty fun.
I think most memos like, well,there's a lot of memos that hate
the game is a thing.
Right.
But well, like, yeah, andthere's like some members that
are like, can't play the gamefor like a calendar year too.
So like, like, like when yougrow up, you're kind of like

(01:30:38):
told, or like you're, you'rejust sort of under the
assumption that like, you know,like surely there's like a lot
of people that like enjoy thegame, right?
Like, you know, they play thegame a lot, right?
Like surely.
No, bro.
Like if you play like maybe one,maybe two hours a day, you play
more than like, all but like 15players already, bro.
Like there, there's literallylike, I, I dunno, Liam, I like,

(01:30:59):
I used to agree with thesentiment more, but I think
we're actually entering like ashift, bro.
I actually think that like the,I, I looked at cut, right?
I was like, tell this to myfriend, like cut everyone on
that list plays a lot.
Or like, not everyone.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Not everyone.
I remember like the, theexceptions, right?
Like I don't know anything aboutJoe Filiana, so I won't comment
on that at all.
But I knows obviously plays aton.
McConney plays a good amount Ithink, right?

(01:31:21):
He like just, I don't, I'mpretty sure was a lot.
Yeah.
Label Bella.
I don't know anything.
I don't know anything about.
I've been talking to Lobel more'cause he plays a lot of Valant.
I don't know how much he playswhatever.
Hiroshi.
Takeda, he's Japanese so he mustplay like the game more than
anyone else.
And then like Il probably put,he plays a good decent amount.
I don't dunno anything aboutTrevor Reid.
So no comment.
Uh, Caleb Broderson plays a ton.
Lee wi a ton.
Zin plays a ton and Drake playsa ton.

(01:31:41):
Like plays a ton.
I mean, I wouldn't even sayDrake played a ton, bro.
Dude, he plays so many likeprivate games, bro.
Like, I think like, it's likecomparable.
Not a ton.
Dude.
Dude, there's levels obviouslydon't more much like I don't,
bro, like not an hour or two aday.
Like that's too low.
Like there's like, they playlike more than that.
You think Drake plays more thantwo hours a day?

(01:32:02):
No.
No, no, no.
No way.
Well, uh, I guess like, I don't,I don't think played last week.
It's like probably zero, right?
Like Sure.
Okay.
I, I, I guess like, first ofall, this is final week, but
second of all, like, I would saythat like, if you're watching
intently and like talking aboutlike, like watching someone play
and like group talking about theplays with em or whatever, I
think it's like close enoughthat's Iam, so all counts as

(01:32:25):
like time.
But like, I mean.
Okay, whatever.
I'm the same, but like, it'slike gonna get more and more
extreme.
Like I was the, the samplestarted better when it was like,
Caleb Rodder, zing likes me.
Roshi, Takeda.
I was like, these are like some,well, you like completely made
it.
You said like the olive cut andthen you like named like MCC
five and then you made up liketwo Macon.
Yeah.
No, no.

(01:32:46):
Okay.
Okay.
I, I remember thinking when Ilike started the, like when I
started like this thought thatlike there was more, but then I
like looked at the list likejust now again and I was like, I
don't know.
I'm not sure if they like playas like as much as I thought
they did.
Yeah.
There were more than someone wasasking me about this and I
definitely, definitely playedmore than them.
Like the person who was askingme.
So I was like, this guy playsmore than you.
They were like asking like, howdo you like cut events and
stuff?
I was like, this guy plays morethan you.

(01:33:07):
This guy plays more than you.
This guy plays more than you.
Like you play the fucking game,bro.
That's like, that's a cheatcode.
And I was like, get you.
Don't play ridiculous.
This narrative that like, oh,like a bond and like me and
trick, like they play the gamebare.
How?
How come whenever?
I'm like asking if anyone wantsto play it.
Like, ah, not fake.
Liam.
Is this a serious comment fromyou that I don't play the game
like a ton?

(01:33:27):
Is this like serious?
Well, like probably pretty bad.
We have to say anything.
Don't even worry about it.
This is actually one of theworst comments I've ever heard
about.
Like, what are you talkingabout?
Like, uh, I'm not sure if youknow my live name, but I'm one
of the like five people in theworld apparently who said 2K
elo.
Wow.
So, wow.
So plays, we work this all.
Yeah.
Well, I do like, I, I don'tknow.
You, you have like, period, likeYeah, I guess I would say every,

(01:33:49):
all of these players haveperiods where they play the game
a lot, bro.
But like, I can, I can't take abreak breath.
I like literally cut an event,bro.
I'm like the, the week after, Istill played with you yesterday
and like today I am like, yeah,I don't wanna play.
Like, we're gonna record the podand then I have to, I have to
play more games at TT v todayand like do all this and that.
Like, I don't wanna play thegame right now.
And like, oh, I'm bumed.
He like doesn't play.
Okay, bro, this is ridiculous.
This is actually, this areasonable narrative, bro.

(01:34:10):
No, nobody actually, no.
Like literally, if someone'smaking like a trash list, most
ridiculous comments, everwheretimestamp, whatever moment it is
right now, and put that in the,the compilation.
This is actually like, this isan outrageous comment, dude.
Put compilation, like, it'sfine.
Let the people decide, bro.
Let's generally, like what I wassaying earlier is like
completely valid, bro.
Like, this is like the offseason and like, no, nobody

(01:34:31):
likes to play during the offseason, bro.
I guess I'm like the only guywho likes to play during the off
season.
I can't even play post row onladder, bro.
Like, what do you want me to do?
Are we gonna talk aboutrotation?
Uh, yeah, rotation is, we can,we can wait completely.
Who even knows anything aboutrotation, row rotation?
Nobody knows anything.
Yeah.
Nobody knows anything.
Okay.
Okay.
Do we expect and the people whodo know Henry don't wanna share

(01:34:52):
it?
Yeah.
Obviously if you, if you look atlike the list that are like
doing well in Japan and like allthat stuff, you can just take
like one look and you likeunderstand that like these decks
are like not very serious.
Like obviously like the formatis not like fleshed out yet.
Well before.
Try to build a deck.
This farm just like cancel, likeall the cards are terrible.
So I mean, like that's like,that always happens after
rotation, but like, like you canmake so much better deck this

(01:35:14):
being put out right now.
Okay.
Okay.
So at uh, at the first regionalsin eu, where do we have an,
where there's no regs.
What the hell?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, so you're not even gonna geta chance to show you.
Oh, oh, actually one Milwaukeelast thing I wanted bring up.
I just thought, like, wonderingwhat you guys think about this.

(01:35:34):
So like a lot of people aresaying that the point threshold
is gonna be 700, like roughly.
And like, I don't actually,like, I don't have any math or
like any reason to believethat's true or not, but like,
even if that is true, like let'sjust take that to be a fact.
Like do we rock with this?
Do you think 700 was like achallenging number to hit this
year?
Dude, I have like no opinion onthese things.
Like, I don't even like reallyknow what I mean.
Obviously, like you probablyknow my opinion worlds is like

(01:35:55):
too big.
It should, it should have beenlike a maybe.
Yeah.
They should just take regionalwinners.
They should just take regionalwinners.
Are you in Bay Range right now?
Me?
Not right now.
Not right now.
Okay.
Okay.
Not because I like, I'm likeactively checking on Liam as a
hater.
I like just recall, like seeinghis name next to Bradner at like
five 30.
Wait, does Bradner not, that'snot possible, right?

(01:36:18):
He's not invite range startingremotely.
Brad Bradner doesn't like dolocals, so Yeah.
Okay.
I.
I mean, yeah, I, I think like700 seems, well, I mean like you
can't even compare it to lastyear because it like changed all
the well, okay.
I do think the way that theygive it, like, I don't wanna
really necessarily agree withthis like steep top eight thing,
like where a top eight is like ahundred more points.

(01:36:38):
Then all the points within topeight are like the same, like
getting first at, I agree, 50,like 3 25.
Like, I, I think you should betotally rewarded for like
winning your ASIN match andlosing to, to, to a bomb.
I think that's like, should belike the most rewarded thing in,
in the system doesn't reallymake any sense.
But on March 8th and I.
This is so just like, because myreg winds aren't even like that

(01:37:00):
good.
Like they're like, they're like,I think you get 300 for a top
eight and three 50 for a regbro, three 50.
They should make it.
So you need like one point toqualify for worlds and you get
one point for winning regionalsand you don't get points through
any other method.
Like I, I actually think thatwas Drake's idea.
I think that's like anincredible idea.
I don't think that's whatDrake's idea was at all.
Drake did not say that Li wasputting words in his mouth to

(01:37:21):
like canceled.
He said something that inspiredthat idea.
So you're trying to make andinto an elitist, I think well,
no, I mean I've been calling fora long time and Drake has like
changed ever since running hisfourth regional.
Do you know what that's areference to Henry?
Yeah.
No.
Oh, there's this guy after Liamwent Orlando, who said, like,
I've been following Liam for along time, and he was never this

(01:37:43):
elitist before.
This make, before this win.
Little, little para.
No, not just that.
Like, literally like, I thinkLiam like looked or something
and like, he would like eitherjust like followed him or like,
pretty recently and like neverheard of the guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wonder if he's like, as a longtime Liam follower, if he's
like, still following Liam.

(01:38:03):
No, no, bro.
He's gonna hear this.
No, it's, I, I didn't, I don'tlike know when he followed me,
bro.
But like, if he had followed mefor a long time, he would know
that like, bro, like I, I neverswitch up, right?
Like, dude, that's what Drakekeeps saying.
I like, I've been saying allthese crazy things after like
this event and he's like, oh,well I thinks this because the
only topic.
I was like, no bro, I was sayingall of this on Friday before
anything, I was saying this,it's hard.

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You could go, it's hard.
Like you, you would, like, youused to say like 90% of things,
but now you just say likeanything, right?
Like, no, you bro, like, you,you like say everything with
like someone much moreconviction bro.
Like.
It's like you, you have, thatjust means you're like, you're
like reading between the lines.
Like that means you just don'tthink, I believe what I was
saying before.
Like, oh, I mean, I'm saying thesame thing and now you're

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saying, I'm saying with moreconviction.
You're like, like reading intothe tone because like, it was
complete, like projecting bro,complete projection.
Nah, it's not narrative.
It's not like, no.
Yeah, Henry, you know what I'msaying?
Yeah.
It's like fine.
Like, like I, I, you know, Ialways take my opportunity to
say anything like, well that'snot true.
I mean, it's understandable,bro.
After, after you got like, uh,you know, a top eight, like, you

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know, you kind of feelingyourself.
Lost my deck.
Lost my deck.
Top eight.
Like double bla, double double,you know.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Lost my top eight.
That's different breath.
That's different.
Well, eight tail top eight, sixtail saline.
Top eight.
Lost my topic.
I do, yeah.
I actually think that was likeridiculous man.
That was really good run.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(01:39:26):
All right.
All right.
Let's, uh, to chew on that, Iguess.
yeah.
Back.
We'll, uh, probably talk to youguys after stalk him, you know,
maybe I'll be there.
Probably, yeah, we'll steam outif Liam taught me, we'll
obviously have an episode, butlike, I'm pretty sure if Liam,
that's bad and we're gonna crashout.
We need to hold ourselvesaccountable.
Like we, we can't just be onlyrecording after we win, dude.
Like, that's fucking bullshit.

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Like, and then have like a 50%chance of even like having the
recording go out.
This is how we get out threepodcasts a year, which is our
current trajectory.
So, yeah.
Okay.
So we'll, we'll be, uh, I mean,we have six top eights a year.
Is that even, would we even takethat?
No way.
That's too low.
Six top eights aren't we likealready close to?
Well, uh, okay.
No, I'm just saying like, that'sour projection though.

(01:40:07):
We'd have like six top eight ayear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like three because of 50.
50.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Six.
I mean, if we're only going tolike around 10 events a year,
that's too low.
Yeah.
I think we could do better thanthat in a, in a calendar year.
There's no way.
Well, actually, now that I thinkabout it.
That's probably just like thisseason combined.
All three of us are probablygonna have, like, we, we just
have three combined top eightsright now.
Right?
Like that's actually not reallygood, dude.

(01:40:29):
Like of course I understand whatyou're saying, but I think this
is like, we're a low rollingthis year.
Yeah.
I mean it depends how good Henrydoes.
If Henry does really good thenum, Henry, Henry close up the
season strong.
Then we, we have more dude ifLiam starts playing like, like,
or like some ridiculous dex toevents spell and then like
complaining rather than likewe'd be chilling.
And not to mention Liam isdefinitely low role.

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Like let's talk about Liam'syear.
He had like same 60 with JeremyGibson.
Like Jeremy saw some off thislist and like Jeremy had Aon and
Liam only got 35th.
That was a low role for sure.
That was a low role.
That guy was so good.
And then like Toronto, Liam,like Hassan gave Liam this
broken list again, like Liamkeeps getting hand these broken
list out of nowhere.
And then Hassan ta made it andLiam like, Laurel, like Liam's
had a Laurel year.

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Like the Liam is not a zero topcut caliber player.
He's like actually like hellagood.
I don't know.
Like I don't wanna see any Liamdisrespecting year honor.
Oh, crash out bro.
Oh my god.
Yeah, I'd say like on average wehad like five, eight a year,
like, uh, sixes, maybe acalendar year five.
Calendar, another shot, bro.
I like, I I, I mean anothershot.

(01:41:31):
I like can't wait for Stockholm,bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And I can't wait for these nextevents.
It's uh, yeah, UIC was reallybad, so it's, it's gonna be a
long time, but once we getthere, alright guys, you'll be
winning.
So put it on your calendars.
Alright.
I believe in Henry and Liam.
We'll get 10 top base this year.
See you guys later.
I don't think that's possible.

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Okay.
Calendar.