October 23, 2025 • 38 mins
Dane Johnson is the Founder/CEO of Crohn's Colitis Lifestyle and a Holistic Nutritionist specializing in reversing Crohn’s Disease and Ulcerative Colitis.
Dane’s story ignited through a life-threatening case of Crohn’s/Colitis which nearly took his life in December 2014.
Since committing his life to natural healing he has remained surgery and medication-free while eliminating Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD) symptoms.
To date, Dane and his passionate team of specialists and coaches have created 500+ success stories for reversing IBD symptoms using his signature S.H.I.E.L.D. Program.
Today we’re going to talk about: The Role of Trauma in AutoimmunityHow Trauma Impacts Digestive Disease
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Dane’s story ignited through a life-threatening case of Crohn’s/Colitis which nearly took his life in December 2014.
Since committing his life to natural healing he has remained surgery and medication-free while eliminating Inflammatory Bowel Disease (IBD) symptoms.
To date, Dane and his passionate team of specialists and coaches have created 500+ success stories for reversing IBD symptoms using his signature S.H.I.E.L.D. Program.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Trauma Therivers podcast. My name is Guimi Ferson,
and I interview incredible people who share the story of
how trauma has shaped their lives. And a big thank
you for sponsoring today's episode goes to my guest and
our sponsors five four, three, two and one. Our folks,
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welcome back to the podcast. Very excited to have as
my guest today. Dane Johnson.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Dane, welcome, Thank you so much for having me guy.
I just want to dedicate this time to anyone struggling
with disease and feeling that anxiety, that hopelessness. I dedicate
this time to you, healing as possible, always make a
stand for you. Thanks for being here, all.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Right, Appreciate that so. Dane is a founder CEO of
crones Colitis Lifestyle and a holistic nutritionalist specializing in reversing
Crone's disease and alterative colitis. His story ignited through a
life threatening case of Crohn's colitis, which nearly took his
life in December of twenty fourteen. Since committing his life
to natural healing, he's reigned surgery and medication free while
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eliminating inflammatory ballo disease or IBD symptoms. To date, he
and his passionate team of specialists and coaches have created
over five hundred success stories for reversing IBD symptoms using
his signature Shield program This Shield Program. Dane, Welcome to
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Thank you guy. Yes, it's been a long time and
I've just tried to take the worst thing that ever
happened to me and try to make it the best.
And I think that's all we can help to do.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
So before we get going here, share with the listeners
where you're from originally and where you are currently.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I was born in Kansas, raised in Virginia. I went
to college in South Carolina College a College of Charleston, Charleston,
South Carolina, and I've been living a live in New York, Europe,
lived in Los Angeles for seven to eight years, and
I currently live in Orange County, California. Have been out
here for about four or five years now.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You know, I remarked to you before we started recording.
On your website, you have a couple of photos of
I guess when all this was happening, when you were
really sick, and then kind of the before and after version,
and the images are striking. How let's how did all
this start for you?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, that image you're seeing, I was one hundred and
twenty two pounds. That was December twenty fourteen. I just
turned twenty seven years old and I'm six to two,
so it was one hundred and twenty two pounds. Right
now I am about one hundred and ninety pounds to
give you an idea. And it wasn't like I was
going on some kind of diet. I couldn't absorb food
with inflammatory bout disease. If you don't know what it is,
it's chronic inflammation the bow that affects your ability to
absorb nutrients, water, iron, protein, carbohydrates, electrolytes. And I was
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wasting away. And that was after I was on TPN
feeding tube. So they've been an incision in my arm,
put a tube that went into my stomach and fed
me intervened, Yeah, fed me in that manner. So I
wasn't eating food I was. I was on a feeding
tube through an incision in my arm, and I was
on antibiotics. I was on deluded, which is seven times
strong with morphine. I was on you know, I was
(03:02):
on twound milligrams of infused pregno zone. I was on antivio,
which is a biologic. I was on antiviral chemotherapies. I
ended up saving my life. And so, really, guy, the
reason I'm here and why I'm here and I want
to have a voice and help people and serve people
is man. I just I almost died of a disease
I did nothing to deserve. My family couldn't help me,
doctors couldn't help me. I felt hopeless. I was helpless.
(03:26):
I had four or five years of evidence showing I
was helpless of chronic disease, and I couldn't get out
of it. So it was stuck.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And let me just interject you for a second. How
did it start? How did you realize you had something
was going on?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Eighteen years old, I'm under a little bit of stress.
I'm in college and I'm doing some exercise stuff, push
my body really hard, right, And I go to the
bathroom one day and I see blood, and I go,
what's that. I don't know what it is. I felt shameful.
I didn't know if it was maybe beats or something.
Right the next day, I didn't think of it, But
then they kept happening, and you know, I didn't want
(04:01):
to say much. But by the time I was twenty two,
I was finally diagnosed with alsup clytis was full blown
where I started having ten fifteen twenty twenty five bowel
movements a day, full of blood, full of mucus, full
of water. Oh my god, every single day. And so
can you imagine the shame of this guy. You're walking
down the street. I need to know where a bathroom
is at all times, and you get this pain. It's
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like it almost feels like you ate a bunch of
glass and then you're trying to poop it out and
you're like, oh, that's not good. Pain. Pain, pain, right
in a sackboard, cold pain, pain, pain. Where's the bathroom?
Where's the bathroom? Run? Run and run? Oh what comes out? Water? Mucus, blood,
in a little sediment. And that happens about twenty times
a day. And you go to the doctor and they say, well,
this is a chronic and curable disease, so we're gonna
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give you steroids. We're gonna give you biologics to turn
off the immune sytem, immunosuppressants or modulate the immune system,
immunomodulators or a steroid a immunosuppressant that's temporary cortisom steroid
col prednosome. I was on pregnosone like Skittles for four years,
on and off, sixty milligrams, taper off, back on, back off.
So years of just doing what I was told, going
to the doctor. I was a kid, guy, I was
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a kid.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Had it been diagnosed as IBD.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
ES twenty two right right, okay, right after college. I
was finally diagnosed. But this was years of I don't
want to go to the doctor. I don't want to
talk about it. I'm in college. My parents lived two
states away, you know, and so.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You dealt with it. I trying.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I dealt with it. Yeah, I dealt with it. But
in the beginning a lot of times when these diseases come,
they don't come full on like that. For me, it
was slowly progressing where I noticed when I was stressed,
I'd drink beer, I eat a lot of pizza, or
I didn't get enough sleep. Where I was studying for
an exam, I'd see more symptoms in the bowels. Then
if I got sun i'd calmed down. I just started
naturally staying away from certain foods. I didn't see it
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as much. So I was like, okay, nah, just let
that go. So it was kind of like, you know,
a lot of us don't want to deal with it
until we have to deal with it. That was really
the right. It was like, I don't want to deal
with it until I have to absolutely deal with it.
And then you're kind of weird in your mind, like, oh,
is this progressing? Is this getting worse? Is this cancer?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Did you tell anyone?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No? I didn't. I was shameful. Guy. I I didn't
know what to say. Even when they told me I
had ulcerative colitis, I said, alterative colitis? What that sounds disgusting?
I can't tell a girl, I like, I have alternative colitis?
What are we talking? There's no way. I told my
mom that was it. Mom, don't tell anyone. The next day,
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my sister calls, I heard you got all class? Great,
Thanks ma, Thanks Ma. Let everyone know I've got a
button disease. Thank you. So, yeah, there's a lot of shame.
And I was a kid, and you know, I was
a growing man. I was trying to find my manhood
and I, you know, ego and what's that? And who
am I? And how do I express this and you know,
where's the toy? You know, It's like when you can
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go to someone's house where you're like, can I use
your toy, It's like it's already weird. Can I use
your restroom? You know it's already a little so you know,
after a while, I don't go out unless I have
like a covert op double O seven mission impossible plan
to get somewhere and get back. I carry underwear. I'm
wearing double shirts, double jeans because I'm losing weight now.
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So now it's like it's not just shameful, it's like
I don't fit my jeans anymore. You can tell I've
lost weight. And I was a very ambitious young man,
and so it was. It was just a lot of
things I want to say in life that I hope
people can hear on. This is in the when you're
going through things, it can be like why me, and
you get so much pain and anger for it, But
(07:30):
later on, if you if you stand up and you
get off your knees and you do something about it,
it can be thank you for this opportunity. It can
be I'm like I nowadays, I feel so blessed, but
it's only because of the fire.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So you know, well, I I want to I want
to I want to get to that point. How did
you Okay, let's shift move a little forward. When how
did things start to shift with you in terms of
something's not working. I need to find their treatment or healing.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Four years straight, I would go to different doctors and say,
what do you suggest? My mom would fly me there.
My family would help pay for things. I was broke kid,
and I was a broke college kid. I was in
debt from college. Okay. That come from a middle class family,
so we started using family money. My sister would pitch
it on certain things to go fly here, do that.
So what do you think? Okay? And I kept getting
the same story. You're gonna use a steroid, You're gonna
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use a biologic. If it doesn't work, we're gonna cut
out your colon. That was at MAO Clinic, it was
at UCLA, that was at Cedar Cino, that was at
the ten different GI doctors I saw. It was the
same story. You have an incurable disease. You need to
use these immune suppressants. If they do not work, you
need to get your colon removed. Food doesn't matter. Mindset
doesn't matter. There's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Okay, let me just pause you for a second. So
you just rattled off like three of the top places
at least in the US were you Was there any
idea at this point, any thoughts well, okay, that's all
the kind of quote quote traditional medicine. Should I try
(09:09):
to seek any kind of alternative stuff? Had you had
any thoughts like that at that time?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
My my, I'll keep saying this. My mom was pushing,
and I know there's a lot of you know, parents
listening out there. She was the one on the internet
looking I was a kid. I wasn't ready for the
responsibility to take on my health. You weren't even there,
it was, you know, my mind wasn't there. So she
was dragging me to these different doctors, flying me, she
was buying the books. She was getting up early, trying
(09:36):
to crep some gluten free, dairy free, low fod map
meal and I'm like, I'm supposed to eat this. It
tastes like cardboard. I was, you know, I was like,
I was totally not into natural medicine at all. I
was like, this is I grew up bunch of poli.
I worked a Papa John's Pizza for four years. I
grew up in Virginia, the middle of nowhere. We ate
what was in front of us, you know, like you know,
(09:56):
we were about macros. If I gained a few pounds,
I ran it off. That's all I knew about diet.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
It was like eat too much, go for a run,
and go play basketball. You know, four on four, you'll
run it off. So that's that was it. And so
it took me a lot of years of pain of Okay,
we tried these diets and then when the diets weren't working,
where it's like you're gonna be gluten free. No, you're
going to get rid of polysaccharides, which is big word
for complex carbs that are harder to break down. You're
going to get rid of process foods and sea oils.
(10:22):
Well that's pretty much everything you eat at a restaurant. Like,
so everything I was told I could not eat. And
the problem also, guy that I ran into was everything
I was reading was you have to be like this
for the rest of your life. So I was trying
to be enrolled in this Monkish life as a twenty
two year old kid who grew up, just got out
of college. What do you think I eat? In college?
I had a twenty dollars a day budget for food,
(10:44):
Like what do you think I was eating? You know, cheese, tortilla, taco,
chips and salt, like this is all? This is all
I had. I was in debt, and so it was like,
you can't eat aat Like what are you going to
survive on? And so it was years of this is
never gonna work. Even when I tried it, I'd fail,
I'd give up, I'd quit, hunger pains, can't keep this up,
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can't go to restaurants, can't travel, Why me anger?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And then you know, my mom didn't have this, never,
No one in my family had gotten this. So when
my dad's trying to enroll me and come on's son,
keep it up. You can do it. You can do it.
And I'm like, Dad, shut your mouth. You don't know
a damn thing about being sick. You eat whatever you want,
you think two beers a night. Don't tell me to
keep something up that you can't do yourself. So I
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could continue to defend the victimhood because no one around
me and my first time my life, no one around
me had had to walk a path that I was
being asked to walk, and that was able for me
to emotionally and spiritually defend my victimhood because no one
could relate. That's one of the reasons and passions I'm here, guys,
because people out there who are listening and going, yes,
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I relate. Now you're listening to someone who's actually been
through what you've been through and has the right to
tell you what can be and what can't be because
I've actually done it and I almost died of this.
So by the time I was twenty seven, I was
hooked up to a feeding tube. I was on two
hundred milligrams of infused Predna zone. I had failed Remickaid
and TiVo was. I had already failed six MP. I
(12:12):
was on methotreks eight. These are all medications people will
know if they know. I was on ambient sleeping pills.
I was on painkillers, so three grams of delatted a day,
which is seven times stronger than morphine, so it's like
legal heroin. I hit a button because I kept an
ivy in me for six weeks straight. I hit a button,
and I'm floating on a cloud. Guy where were you
living at this hospital. I was in the hospital for
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five weeks. I did not leave the hospital for five
weeks straight. I lost the ability to walk because I
didn't get out of bed, and I would have twenty
five bloody bal moons to day. So my mom and
my sister took turns living with me at the hospital,
where they'd sleep on the floor. And then they because
I almost died in that hospital, it wasn't like they
could check me out. I was dying. They couldn't stabilize me.
So they'd take these bedpans and they'd put them under
my butt and I'd release blood and mucus in water,
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and then they'd go dump it out and wait another
thirty minutes for it to happen again. And they just
kept me on painkillers so I wouldn't feel it. And
it was December fourteenth, twenty fourteen. I nearly passed away.
They came to my mom and my sister. My dad
was out there, so my two sisters, my dad, my
mom all flew out and they were staying at a
hotel and staying at my apartment in Santa Monica, and
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they said to my mom, they said, we don't know
if he's going to live through the night. We don't
know what's wrong with them. And just to give everyone
a footnote if you're going through something like that, there
was one doctor who had found in a stain in
a coln osby side of meglavirus and he believed that
the virus were shedding in my body had overtaken my body.
So the immunosuppressants and the antibiotics were actually making my
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body weaker to handle the virus. Antibiotic treats antibacterial and
it just weakens your immune system, which was making the virus,
making me more susceptible to the virus shedding and overtaking
my body. How did I go from left side of
colitis to widespread Crohn's colitis and the matter of four
years that it was life threatening? So it went like
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that no one could find out some of these rude issues.
So when they gave me the anti viral chemotherapy, guy,
I woke up, I became conscious. So I wasn't conscious
for about five or six days, right, okay, And I
don't remember it. I can't tell you anything about it.
My mom will tell me crazy stories. I'm like, I
said that she's like yep, that type of thing. It
was like, okay, just Lee, don't tell. She's like, you
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don't want to know what you were doing. I'm like, good,
all right, I'm just gonna leave it there. But you know,
so when I woke up, it was like maybe five
days later, I called up. I was in natural medicine
school at that point because I started to believe that
there was something I could do about it, because it
was either give up in life. This is your life.
You're gonna be on disability, you're gonna have a you're
gonna poop in a bag and this is it, or
you're gonna fight. And natural medicine at least gave me. Eventually,
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as I started to like get over it spiritually, and
eventually I started to want to fight. I started to
be willing to say, Ma, you don't have to make
the food for me anymore. I'm studying it, I'm making it.
I'm journaling, I'm getting my mind.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Hold but pause for said first pause. Yeah, I just
want to remind everyone. Speaking with Dane Johnson of CC
Lifestyle that's Crone's Colaidis Lifestyle, talk more about that time
where you were like, hold on, something's got to shift
was how did that start to happen for you?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
When they told me they were going to cut out
my colon at twenty four years old and attach a
bag to my stomach that I would potentially have for
the rest of my life, that's when it the victimhood
was like, Okay, I can't just complain about this anymore.
I can't just be a victim and veg out on
Netflix and why me and be angry and you know,
(15:37):
live in my pajamas because I can't leave the house.
I I had I think something that saved me. Guys.
I had a lot of dreams. If you're a dreamer
out there, man, dream big, dream big. It will save
you from the pain, the anxiety, the unawareness. Because the
number one thing that's going to help any of us
get we want to go is us. It's not another person.
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You have the ability to be intuitive. You have the
ability to create new paradigms, new realities. You have that
you have the idea of to shifting your perspective of
what is. I had to take the worst thing had
ever happened to me and start finding what was good.
So those were like when I finally got back into
a corner, my life, my future, my life was now
at risk. It was just, I mean, years of suffering
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of why me. I got to a point where it
was like, well, this is going to be it and
it was either going to swallow me up or I
was gonna get my nails bloody and start crawling. And
I just wasn't. I think the thing. I just was
not willing to give up my dreams of what my
life was going to be. And I was already robbed
of a good bit of my twenties. And I think,
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so what did you start to do? Specifically, I remember
this one day. What I did is I I didn't
eat for like a day or two, and I was
already scared. I was like, I got over the fact
of losing weight. I was like, fine, if I lose weight,
I lose weight like whatever. So and I was started
tracking my symptoms and then I started noticing that the
pain if I was, if I was, it was an
eight out of ten pain on Saturday, and I didn't eat.
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I just had like like a little bit of soup
or bone broth, period carre, it's little bits of stuff
for Saturday, Monday, Tuesday. My pain went to three and
the amount of bad moons I would track. I was
at eighteen bow movements, and then all of a sudden,
I was at ten or eight, and I went to
the doctor and I remember saying, Doc, I'm seeing the
pendulum start to swing here when I take extreme measures. Now.
(17:26):
I know I can't keep up these extreme measures as
a lifestyle, but I'm still seeing movement on the symptom.
I know you told me this is incurable, but as
far as my life and like how I can live,
I'm seeing a swing. I said, do you think there's
a correlation. He goes, no, there's no correlation. I said,
hold the phone. You've got fifteen degrees. You've been doing
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this for five thousand years, and you're telling me there's
no correlation between what I eat and my stress and
how I feel and what actions I take on a
day to day basis, and that this is just some
monster that will swallow me whold. It doesn't matter how
I fight, because that's what you were telling me. Once
I heard that, Oh man, you can you can feel
my energy on it. It's like I call BS big time.
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I was like, you are no longer the CEO of
my health. You are no longer calling the shots of
what is and what isn't. I don't trust your perspective.
I don't trust your You don't even you know you
can heal yourself. When you intuitively trust yourself more than
anyone else in this world, you got to sharpen your
belief system. I had to get rid of this idea
that I feel sick, I feel angry, I feel depressed.
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But that's who that's my identity, that's who I am now.
So because I refuse to identify with how I was feeling, guy,
it gave me a left lane. I don't feel good,
I don't feel worthy, I don't feel like I can heal.
But I'm going to act and I'm gonna read and
I'm gonna do anyways. Damn, it's like your life's on
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the line. That's the thing. Guy, I wasn't up. I
couldn't complain about it anymore. I complained about it for
four years. I was a victim for four years.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
So what did you start? What do you start to study?
Did you just start studying nutrition or what?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Want to change everyone's lives?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Get your pen and paper. This is it. This is
the biggest thing I learned because I was studying all
these diets and it's like, do the carnivore No, no, no,
eat five hundred bananas no, no, just fast. No you
need to do AIP. No you need to just take
hookworm therapy. No, you need to drink raw milk and
make your own yogurt and every single day and take
ten billion zillion see a fuse of probiotics. It was like,
(19:26):
there's so much conflicting evidence. I said, Okay, let's do
this Number one. I've got to be the CEO of
my health. So now I'm going to take full responsibility
for my health. I'm not going to outsource it someone else.
So if someone's gonna tell me an idea, just like
they're coming into my business, I'm gonna listen. I'm gonna
tell you to explain it to me like a sixth grader,
and then I'm going to use my intuition to decide
(19:46):
if it's right for me. So I'm no longer following someone.
I'm now going to absorb and build my custom plan.
I'll take a little bit of that. I agree with that,
I don't agree with that. And then the second thing
is I'm gonna journal every single day as doctor Dane
seeing patient Dane five minutes in the morning, five minutes
in the night. See it didn't. So now I can
sharpen my intuition. I can see what's happening, like a
(20:08):
graph to my symptoms blood, mucus, urgency, weight, energy, you know, bloating, cramping,
indigested gastritis issues or undigested food in the stool. Like
I'm tracking this every day and I'm saying it's a
one out of ten using my intuition. It was an eight,
it was a six, it was a five. And so
I started journaling every day. Next, I need to get
(20:30):
control of my mind. So I started realizing that I
just needed to build a foundation where I wouldn't be
stuck in depression and I wouldn't be stuck in hopelessness.
So every day I had to read twenty pages of
a solution oriented book. I just made it up, guy,
I just made it up. When you start trusting your creative, divine,
(20:50):
barbarian spirit of a human who wants to live this,
just look, there's some obvious stuff. It's just obvious, Like
just read solutions and stop reading. Be it like no news,
no Arnold Schwarzenegger movie shoot them up, no craziness. I
am watching Planet Earth. I am watching I'm reading about God.
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I'm reading about biochemistry, I am reading about autoimmune disease.
I am reading success stories of other people who say
they healed, and I am cherry picking from everything I'm
learning and then trying it on myself, using the data
I'm getting from myself to refine my own plan. That's
when my life changed. I got I got some results
with carnivore and paleo, but it wasn't enough. I got
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some results eating five hundred nanins a day with fratarian
diet with this guy David Klein was talking about at
the time, and I met him and interviewed him, and
it was like, Okay, that's not enough. And I started realizing,
what are the attributes of what they're saying, don't judge it,
what is the highlight attributes? So, if you take an example,
I built something called food philosophy where I realized the
low FODBAP diet was saying something different than every diet.
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It was saying that an avocado can be good, but
if you eat too much avocado, it'll cause of fermentation
response leading to diarrhea of bloating, urgency, brain fog, and
low energy. I said, wait, that's an interesting concept. Maybe
it's just not whether a food is good or bad,
it's the manner which it's prepared and how it's how
much I have of it.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So I started realizing, like the like, it's not that
one person's completely right and one person's completely wrong. They
had great attributes in both sides. So I was like,
I'll take a little of that. I'll take a little
of that. I'll take a little of that. You all
can keep your flags, and uh, I'm gonna build my plan.
And my life changed. My life changed, But I got
happy before I got healthy. I journaled every day, I
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did twenty minutes of reading. I started doing prayer and
purpose and when I did prayer, it was like the
reason I did prayer is I'd had this one of
my matchmth professors who asked me this question, and it changed.
It's changed my life. He said, Dane, what is the
downside of prayer? How could it hurt you? Can it
hurt you?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
It?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Could it hurt your effects? Anyway? No, even if you
don't if you believe in Kermba, the frog, or God
or the North star or the universe, whatever, How can
it hurt you?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
It can't.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Could it potentially help? With the science behind meditation, prayer, purpose,
affirmation on nervous system, on how you feel, on helping
you get through another day of being isolated? And I
was house fund for a year. Could it help? It's like,
I guess it could possibly help. Then he goes, that's it.
Start doing things that cannot hurt and can only help.
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So if it can't hurt and it can only help,
do it. Put your identity, put your thoughts, put your
trivial perspective away, and just do things that can't hurt
and can only help. And all of a sudden, I said,
wait a minute, let's just make a list what can
only help and can't hurt? Grounding, sunshine, positive music, a
sleep schedule, breath work, journaling, making, only making what I eat.
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I didn't know what to eat, so I made a
conviction that I was only going to eat what I
cooked for seventy days. It was like, see, it's so easy.
It's just hard as far as a discipline, haven't got
there yet that you're actually willing You ever heard someone
say you just don't want it enough that it was
pissed me off. I'm like, what do you mean? It's
(24:07):
like I want to make ten million dollars. Well, you
just don't want enough. It's like, what does that mean?
I don't want it enough? What it means it's like
you want to heal? No, you don't want enough. It's like,
what do you mean? I don't want it enough?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
How much is it going to cost? Our first thought
is like how big of a check do you want?
Money is actually the weakest currency to change your life.
The strongest currency is is time and energy. The weakest
is money. I spent fifty thousand dollars, my family fifty
grand and I got worse when I actually started healing.
I spent the least amount of money I'd ever spent,
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but I had spent the most amount of time and energy.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Wow, all right, hang on, hang on, man, you're amazing.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
This is crazy, but god, it's crazy. I'm like reading
your bio and I'm like Jesus, and.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Then talk you a trike you've got. You were like
infused by this energy, which sounds like it. You were you,
like you described, your life was on the line. You
were backed into a corner during this time where were
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you living.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I was living, and it was it was so serendipitous.
I was living a mile away from the beach in
Santa Monica, California, in a three bedroom, one bath with
two roommates, which was the weirdest thing, right because we
had one bathroom. I imagine one bathroom, twenty BOMs they
had to put up with me. I was calm down, guys,
and you got a sick person who's almost dead. That's
when I was housebound for a year. But the one
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of the man's stories who helped give me hope, and
it was Jordan Ruben. He wrote a book called The
Maker's Died and the first fifty five sixty percent of
the book was only his story of nearly dying of
Crohn's colitis and then healing himself in Huntington Beach. On
the beach he got an and lived on the beach
for like six or seven months, and I was living
like ironically, I was living six miles away from where
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the book took place, and so I was just I mean,
a lot of this is when you really break it down, guy,
the knowledge is already there in your spirit. We've lost
confidence in our intuitive nature. How is it you can
look at an apple and you can smell it, and
you can taste it, and you can feel it and
then automatically intutally know how healthy it is. Nope, it's rotten. Nope,
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it's right, Nope, doesn't taste good, Nope, it feels like
you go to the story, you feel it, You're like,
ah nah, not that one. We have just forgotten to
believe in our intuition. When you are reading every day
and you are learning, and you just make healing your
number one priority, whether it's getting out of depression, whether
it's just wherever you want it. Once you make it
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your number one priority and dedicate yourself, you have AHA
moment after breakthrough after aha after aha after and then
all of a sudden and you just realize the road
to success is just finding balance in an uncomfortable place
in your life. Can you find a sense of happiness
and peace when things aren't how you want them to
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be yet? And when you do, you make space for
exploring curiosity, reading, you make space for trying something that's
going to take another week. When I hadn't got there foundationally,
i would try these crazy diets for two weeks and
then I'd give up because I was out of patience. Right,
that's why we go on a diet. People go on
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a diet as a short term imprisonment to change their life,
and they don't want to do it. That's why they
call it a diet. If they liked it, they wanted
to do it, they call it a lifestyle. Right, Vegans
called a lifestyle. They don't call it a diet because
they want it. So there's this when you go through it.
I just had to bare bones ask myself, why can't
I find balance in what? In what my life is
(27:56):
asking me to do what I am being called to do,
to divorce the falseness of Western world and American living
and accept a more human experience to the earth. Because
when you really look at it's like, what should I eat?
Every diet agreed? You should eat real food that's not
chemically infused from the earth. Like that's everyone agrees. So
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I started realizing these foundational truths and then why am
I angry?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Really, why are you angry? And I started realizing, even
though I'm having twenty bad movements a day, are you
still able to find happiness in life? Like I had
to stop being angry and miserable. I had been it
for four years and I had a reason to do so.
The hardest thing is I had a reason to be angry,
but now I'd no longer serve me and I had
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to get over it even though I had a reason
to be So I started ask myself smarter questions like
ask yourself, now, whatever you're going through, would you rather
the person you love the most go through it or you?
And the answer was obviously me, okay. And now if
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if I learn how to rebuild my life, my spirit,
my mind, my relationship with food, people, the earth, happiness
like what is happiness?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Like?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
What is you know? How will this serve me for
the rest of my life? And that was like will
I be a better father? Could it be a better husband?
Could this be a reason that you know, the woman
I want to marry someday I was single at the time,
would maybe value me and I would value her? You know,
because we don't really fall in love with each other
for our high qualities. It's usually how we overcome life
(29:43):
that makes us unique. You know. The struggles is what
makes you unique and why you want to you know,
really be who you are and why you want to
be with someone because they have to share values. We
don't have values because of the good things in life.
We have values because of the bad things in life,
Like we don't want these things that we create a value,
you right, Like I don't eat gluten because of the
pain I felt. Now that's a value of my life
(30:04):
that I don't eat foods high in glycasate and gluten,
you know. And so when I wanted to date, it
was like I needed someone who shared my values. And
so I started realizing that I was creating. I was
deciding who I was going to be in this world.
And then the disease was just kind of almost it
felt like forcing until I just accepted that this was
just better and I had to get over the idea,
(30:26):
like I had to get something I had to do
and turn it into something I wanted to do. That
was really difficult. You've got to want what's good for
you to really succeed. Because now there's no timer, Now
there's no diet. Now there's just a lifestyle. I always
tell people I don't have a diet. I have a lifestyle.
So you got to change the paradigm. You got to
change the perspective of happiness and choice. And the more
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you read on how food is poisonous, the more you're
going wait a minute to heal. IBD is the same thing.
I need to have the best life and reduce the
chance of any disease for the rest of my life.
I'm not just getting rid of life a state because
I have crome disease. I'm getting rid of glyphisate because
it's been shown to increase Parkinson's cancer, Alzheimer's, IBS, arthritic pains.
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They've already lost in court. I mean, this is bad
for everyone. So I started realizing, like, what do I
want my human life? Me not a sick person, but
how do I want to show up as a human?
And I just realized it was ninety five percent the
same thing is what I wanted. That's what I needed
to heal. And that's when the desire came in and
(31:31):
the fear left.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
As we I'm going to have to have you back. Really,
it's so freaking inspiring. As we kind of wind down here,
how did you shift into creating CC lifestyle?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So I believe that we need more conscious capitalism. I
didn't start building CC lifestyle because I thought it was
going to be as successful it is today, I realized
there was a major, major hole in what I needed.
I simply said, I want to build what I needed
when I was chronically sick for years, spending thousands and
(32:08):
thousands of dollars, not just spending, but alone. And when
I built CCL, it was like I just had to
get a PhD In healing myself mentally, physically, spiritually. And
then I said, well, what am I going to do
with all this information? I started just you know, sharing
my story like this was me a year ago, this
is me now. And then people started reaching out and saying, hey,
(32:30):
I'm stuck, I'm lost, I'm depressed. No one can help me.
I'm in the same position. Can you help me? And
I said, yeah, let me just see if I can
teach you some of the stuff I learned. And I
started seeing unbelievable like people getting better in three weeks.
I'm going that took me a year. By the way,
I'm like almost angry at something, like you understand how
far it was? How long? Because I had already had
so many failures and failries and failures, and it was like, no,
(32:52):
don't do that, don't do that. I already tried to
go here, but then you know, there's different cases constipation, crozies,
people already had surgeries, people have been sick for twenty
five years, like we're I've worked with a three I've
worked with three year olds, five year olds, eight year old,
sixty five year olds, and you know, so there was
a lot of you know, I remember the first time
I worked with someone who had it for thirty years
and I'd only had it for eight years, and it
was like, Okay, let's see, like I want to be
an integral but uh and I got We got massive results,
(33:14):
by the way, and he still works with me today.
He's like a partner of mine. But you know, it's
it's like the idea of CCL is build what I needed.
We need a home, and it's my home too, guy,
It's not just a company, it's it's my home. Every
day I talk with people around the world who were
diagnosed with the same potentially life threatening, lifelong disease is me.
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And they're of every creed, every culture, every every skin color,
every every every walk of life, and we come together
on this common mission of we are not going to
accept being victims of a disease, and we're going to
live our best lives and we're going to make the
best This the best thing that ever happened to us,
and we're going to build our shield. And shield is
your personal shield. Like you don't have to be a
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meat eator, you have to be a vegan, you can
be Indian base. We've worked with people who of every descent,
of every culture, every creed, every type of eating style,
and we've started to make sense of how to repair
these problems that the doctors just weren't even mentioning or
talking about. And I'm going to leave you with one
concept that i think will open up a really big
door for everyone listening. People say this, no, that these
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autoimmune diseases are incurable, but let me and they say
this no root cause let me ask you this. If
someone has autoimmune disease, do they also have very poor
digestion or do they have an imbalanced microbiome? Because that's
a biology problem. Conventional doctors and natural medicine doctors will
all agree that if you have poor stomach acid, you
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have weak pancrotic enzymes, you have a backed up liver
not able to create bio that breaks down fats, you
are going to have digestion problems you're going to have
bound movement issues, you're going to have low energy issues,
you're going to have mitochondria production issues. This is fact.
This is not a debate of root cause. So when
we started looking at how do we optimize the mechanics
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of the body like an engine, like a car, Like
if you have a disease, should you just simply optimize
your biochemistry, optimize digestion, optimize the microbiome, optimize the gut
lining and the mucolsa membrane, and optimize the immune system
to act smarter these So the debate is, well, how
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and how does it imply to this disease and what's
the clinical research to show It's like you have chronic inflammation.
If you digest better, are you most likely gonna have
less food sensitivity. Yes, it's just fact. It's not for debate.
You don't have to get in this argument. It's like
I just started realizing, can we start just optimize bodies,
(35:44):
Like when you go for a run, you're optimizing your
heart rate? Correct? Okay, so if you take apple side
or vinegar, hot water with lemon juice and maybe a
little fenol or ginger, that will help optimize your natural
stomach acid and pancrotic enzyme movement. If you do, a
ca aster will pack and you get on a sleeping
schedule and you get rid of certain toxic load that
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will help optimize your livers detoxification process phase one. In
phase two, it will move stuck bile with chemicals out
of the liver, dump them into the dwatum so you
can properly just scree them and you're less chemically bound
and over toxic, usually causing a HRK number reaction or
brain FOK or skin reactions like eggs must rice. It's
like it's just it's not It's just like obvious. It's
(36:25):
just like this is not up for debate. And that
really saved me guy, because I didn't want to argue
with my doctors. I wasn't a doctor. It was just like, well, doctor,
if I optimize my digestion, do you think I could
start eating food again. It's like it's not a bad thought,
you know, like forget the cure of disease for a second, Like,
can we just I'm seeing undigested food in my stool.
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I'm I can't break this. I'm anemic because I can't
absorb the iron from the meat. You see I'm saying,
so we could go into this over and over. I
know we're up out of time, but guys, just start
asking yourselves, non conflicting, simple questions. Can you optimize the
chemistry even and I want to forguy, if your audience
one more thing. If you are feeling bad, anxious, depressed, overwhelmed,
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is that also something going on in your biochemistry? Can
you optimize your ability to drain toxins that have clinical
research to show that they're going to affect how you feel? Mercury? Okay?
And research something called light bulb poly sacrites LPs LPs.
The more LPs, the more you're neurologically gonna feel terrible.
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The more candida, the more mold, the more it's just fact.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Dan, I'm gonna have to have you back, man. How
do people learn more about you and what you do?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Guys, I just want to let you know that healing
is possible. If you need a team, if you need
a community you're dealing with IBD, We're gonna hold space
for you. You can click on the link below here
in Guys Podcast, We're gonna send him a link that
you can just schedule a free IBD session you can
find a scene where on the internet, but all over
you're gonna see that you can book a free session
with us, and we're gonna deep dive in your case
what's happened. We want to build integrity and trust with
you and if we can help you when it's a fit,
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we're going to do everything in our power to change
your life and make you a success story. Thanks for
having me, love man, love it loved and love to
have you back.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I mean this. I feel like there are so many
ten gentle things that we haven't really touched on and
but so awesome, Dan, It's great to meet you.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Really appreciate you, mean you so we'll definitely run it back.
Thank you, guys, God blessed.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
All right, man, take care
Welcome to the Trauma Therivers podcast. My name is Guimi Ferson,
and I interview incredible people who share the story of
how trauma has shaped their lives. And a big thank
you for sponsoring today's episode goes to my guest and
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welcome back to the podcast. Very excited to have as
my guest today. Dane Johnson.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Dane, welcome, Thank you so much for having me guy.
I just want to dedicate this time to anyone struggling
with disease and feeling that anxiety, that hopelessness. I dedicate
this time to you, healing as possible, always make a
stand for you. Thanks for being here, all.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Right, Appreciate that so. Dane is a founder CEO of
crones Colitis Lifestyle and a holistic nutritionalist specializing in reversing
Crone's disease and alterative colitis. His story ignited through a
life threatening case of Crohn's colitis, which nearly took his
life in December of twenty fourteen. Since committing his life
to natural healing, he's reigned surgery and medication free while
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eliminating inflammatory ballo disease or IBD symptoms. To date, he
and his passionate team of specialists and coaches have created
over five hundred success stories for reversing IBD symptoms using
his signature Shield program This Shield Program. Dane, Welcome to
the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Thank you guy. Yes, it's been a long time and
I've just tried to take the worst thing that ever
happened to me and try to make it the best.
And I think that's all we can help to do.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
So before we get going here, share with the listeners
where you're from originally and where you are currently.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I was born in Kansas, raised in Virginia. I went
to college in South Carolina College a College of Charleston, Charleston,
South Carolina, and I've been living a live in New York, Europe,
lived in Los Angeles for seven to eight years, and
I currently live in Orange County, California. Have been out
here for about four or five years now.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You know, I remarked to you before we started recording.
On your website, you have a couple of photos of
I guess when all this was happening, when you were
really sick, and then kind of the before and after version,
and the images are striking. How let's how did all
this start for you?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, that image you're seeing, I was one hundred and
twenty two pounds. That was December twenty fourteen. I just
turned twenty seven years old and I'm six to two,
so it was one hundred and twenty two pounds. Right
now I am about one hundred and ninety pounds to
give you an idea. And it wasn't like I was
going on some kind of diet. I couldn't absorb food
with inflammatory bout disease. If you don't know what it is,
it's chronic inflammation the bow that affects your ability to
absorb nutrients, water, iron, protein, carbohydrates, electrolytes. And I was
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wasting away. And that was after I was on TPN
feeding tube. So they've been an incision in my arm,
put a tube that went into my stomach and fed
me intervened, Yeah, fed me in that manner. So I
wasn't eating food I was. I was on a feeding
tube through an incision in my arm, and I was
on antibiotics. I was on deluded, which is seven times
strong with morphine. I was on you know, I was
(03:02):
on twound milligrams of infused pregno zone. I was on antivio,
which is a biologic. I was on antiviral chemotherapies. I
ended up saving my life. And so, really, guy, the
reason I'm here and why I'm here and I want
to have a voice and help people and serve people
is man. I just I almost died of a disease
I did nothing to deserve. My family couldn't help me,
doctors couldn't help me. I felt hopeless. I was helpless.
(03:26):
I had four or five years of evidence showing I
was helpless of chronic disease, and I couldn't get out
of it. So it was stuck.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And let me just interject you for a second. How
did it start? How did you realize you had something
was going on?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Eighteen years old, I'm under a little bit of stress.
I'm in college and I'm doing some exercise stuff, push
my body really hard, right, And I go to the
bathroom one day and I see blood, and I go,
what's that. I don't know what it is. I felt shameful.
I didn't know if it was maybe beats or something.
Right the next day, I didn't think of it, But
then they kept happening, and you know, I didn't want
(04:01):
to say much. But by the time I was twenty two,
I was finally diagnosed with alsup clytis was full blown
where I started having ten fifteen twenty twenty five bowel
movements a day, full of blood, full of mucus, full
of water. Oh my god, every single day. And so
can you imagine the shame of this guy. You're walking
down the street. I need to know where a bathroom
is at all times, and you get this pain. It's
(04:24):
like it almost feels like you ate a bunch of
glass and then you're trying to poop it out and
you're like, oh, that's not good. Pain. Pain, pain, right
in a sackboard, cold pain, pain, pain. Where's the bathroom?
Where's the bathroom? Run? Run and run? Oh what comes out? Water? Mucus, blood,
in a little sediment. And that happens about twenty times
a day. And you go to the doctor and they say, well,
this is a chronic and curable disease, so we're gonna
(04:44):
give you steroids. We're gonna give you biologics to turn
off the immune sytem, immunosuppressants or modulate the immune system,
immunomodulators or a steroid a immunosuppressant that's temporary cortisom steroid
col prednosome. I was on pregnosone like Skittles for four years,
on and off, sixty milligrams, taper off, back on, back off.
So years of just doing what I was told, going
to the doctor. I was a kid, guy, I was
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a kid.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Had it been diagnosed as IBD.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
ES twenty two right right, okay, right after college. I
was finally diagnosed. But this was years of I don't
want to go to the doctor. I don't want to
talk about it. I'm in college. My parents lived two
states away, you know, and so.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
You dealt with it. I trying.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I dealt with it. Yeah, I dealt with it. But
in the beginning a lot of times when these diseases come,
they don't come full on like that. For me, it
was slowly progressing where I noticed when I was stressed,
I'd drink beer, I eat a lot of pizza, or
I didn't get enough sleep. Where I was studying for
an exam, I'd see more symptoms in the bowels. Then
if I got sun i'd calmed down. I just started
naturally staying away from certain foods. I didn't see it
(05:45):
as much. So I was like, okay, nah, just let
that go. So it was kind of like, you know,
a lot of us don't want to deal with it
until we have to deal with it. That was really
the right. It was like, I don't want to deal
with it until I have to absolutely deal with it.
And then you're kind of weird in your mind, like, oh,
is this progressing? Is this getting worse? Is this cancer?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Did you tell anyone?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No? I didn't. I was shameful. Guy. I I didn't
know what to say. Even when they told me I
had ulcerative colitis, I said, alterative colitis? What that sounds disgusting?
I can't tell a girl, I like, I have alternative colitis?
What are we talking? There's no way. I told my
mom that was it. Mom, don't tell anyone. The next day,
(06:27):
my sister calls, I heard you got all class? Great,
Thanks ma, Thanks Ma. Let everyone know I've got a
button disease. Thank you. So, yeah, there's a lot of shame.
And I was a kid, and you know, I was
a growing man. I was trying to find my manhood
and I, you know, ego and what's that? And who
am I? And how do I express this and you know,
where's the toy? You know, It's like when you can
(06:48):
go to someone's house where you're like, can I use
your toy, It's like it's already weird. Can I use
your restroom? You know it's already a little so you know,
after a while, I don't go out unless I have
like a covert op double O seven mission impossible plan
to get somewhere and get back. I carry underwear. I'm
wearing double shirts, double jeans because I'm losing weight now.
(07:08):
So now it's like it's not just shameful, it's like
I don't fit my jeans anymore. You can tell I've
lost weight. And I was a very ambitious young man,
and so it was. It was just a lot of
things I want to say in life that I hope
people can hear on. This is in the when you're
going through things, it can be like why me, and
you get so much pain and anger for it, But
(07:30):
later on, if you if you stand up and you
get off your knees and you do something about it,
it can be thank you for this opportunity. It can
be I'm like I nowadays, I feel so blessed, but
it's only because of the fire.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So you know, well, I I want to I want
to I want to get to that point. How did
you Okay, let's shift move a little forward. When how
did things start to shift with you in terms of
something's not working. I need to find their treatment or healing.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Four years straight, I would go to different doctors and say,
what do you suggest? My mom would fly me there.
My family would help pay for things. I was broke kid,
and I was a broke college kid. I was in
debt from college. Okay. That come from a middle class family,
so we started using family money. My sister would pitch
it on certain things to go fly here, do that.
So what do you think? Okay? And I kept getting
the same story. You're gonna use a steroid, You're gonna
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use a biologic. If it doesn't work, we're gonna cut
out your colon. That was at MAO Clinic, it was
at UCLA, that was at Cedar Cino, that was at
the ten different GI doctors I saw. It was the
same story. You have an incurable disease. You need to
use these immune suppressants. If they do not work, you
need to get your colon removed. Food doesn't matter. Mindset
doesn't matter. There's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Okay, let me just pause you for a second. So
you just rattled off like three of the top places
at least in the US were you Was there any
idea at this point, any thoughts well, okay, that's all
the kind of quote quote traditional medicine. Should I try
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to seek any kind of alternative stuff? Had you had
any thoughts like that at that time?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
My my, I'll keep saying this. My mom was pushing,
and I know there's a lot of you know, parents
listening out there. She was the one on the internet
looking I was a kid. I wasn't ready for the
responsibility to take on my health. You weren't even there,
it was, you know, my mind wasn't there. So she
was dragging me to these different doctors, flying me, she
was buying the books. She was getting up early, trying
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to crep some gluten free, dairy free, low fod map
meal and I'm like, I'm supposed to eat this. It
tastes like cardboard. I was, you know, I was like,
I was totally not into natural medicine at all. I
was like, this is I grew up bunch of poli.
I worked a Papa John's Pizza for four years. I
grew up in Virginia, the middle of nowhere. We ate
what was in front of us, you know, like you know,
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we were about macros. If I gained a few pounds,
I ran it off. That's all I knew about diet.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
It was like eat too much, go for a run,
and go play basketball. You know, four on four, you'll
run it off. So that's that was it. And so
it took me a lot of years of pain of Okay,
we tried these diets and then when the diets weren't working,
where it's like you're gonna be gluten free. No, you're
going to get rid of polysaccharides, which is big word
for complex carbs that are harder to break down. You're
going to get rid of process foods and sea oils.
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Well that's pretty much everything you eat at a restaurant. Like,
so everything I was told I could not eat. And
the problem also, guy that I ran into was everything
I was reading was you have to be like this
for the rest of your life. So I was trying
to be enrolled in this Monkish life as a twenty
two year old kid who grew up, just got out
of college. What do you think I eat? In college?
I had a twenty dollars a day budget for food,
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Like what do you think I was eating? You know, cheese, tortilla, taco,
chips and salt, like this is all? This is all
I had. I was in debt, and so it was like,
you can't eat aat Like what are you going to
survive on? And so it was years of this is
never gonna work. Even when I tried it, I'd fail,
I'd give up, I'd quit, hunger pains, can't keep this up,
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can't go to restaurants, can't travel, Why me anger?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And then you know, my mom didn't have this, never,
No one in my family had gotten this. So when
my dad's trying to enroll me and come on's son,
keep it up. You can do it. You can do it.
And I'm like, Dad, shut your mouth. You don't know
a damn thing about being sick. You eat whatever you want,
you think two beers a night. Don't tell me to
keep something up that you can't do yourself. So I
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could continue to defend the victimhood because no one around
me and my first time my life, no one around
me had had to walk a path that I was
being asked to walk, and that was able for me
to emotionally and spiritually defend my victimhood because no one
could relate. That's one of the reasons and passions I'm here, guys,
because people out there who are listening and going, yes,
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I relate. Now you're listening to someone who's actually been
through what you've been through and has the right to
tell you what can be and what can't be because
I've actually done it and I almost died of this.
So by the time I was twenty seven, I was
hooked up to a feeding tube. I was on two
hundred milligrams of infused Predna zone. I had failed Remickaid
and TiVo was. I had already failed six MP. I
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was on methotreks eight. These are all medications people will
know if they know. I was on ambient sleeping pills.
I was on painkillers, so three grams of delatted a day,
which is seven times stronger than morphine, so it's like
legal heroin. I hit a button because I kept an
ivy in me for six weeks straight. I hit a button,
and I'm floating on a cloud. Guy where were you
living at this hospital. I was in the hospital for
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five weeks. I did not leave the hospital for five
weeks straight. I lost the ability to walk because I
didn't get out of bed, and I would have twenty
five bloody bal moons to day. So my mom and
my sister took turns living with me at the hospital,
where they'd sleep on the floor. And then they because
I almost died in that hospital, it wasn't like they
could check me out. I was dying. They couldn't stabilize me.
So they'd take these bedpans and they'd put them under
my butt and I'd release blood and mucus in water,
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and then they'd go dump it out and wait another
thirty minutes for it to happen again. And they just
kept me on painkillers so I wouldn't feel it. And
it was December fourteenth, twenty fourteen. I nearly passed away.
They came to my mom and my sister. My dad
was out there, so my two sisters, my dad, my
mom all flew out and they were staying at a
hotel and staying at my apartment in Santa Monica, and
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they said to my mom, they said, we don't know
if he's going to live through the night. We don't
know what's wrong with them. And just to give everyone
a footnote if you're going through something like that, there
was one doctor who had found in a stain in
a coln osby side of meglavirus and he believed that
the virus were shedding in my body had overtaken my body.
So the immunosuppressants and the antibiotics were actually making my
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body weaker to handle the virus. Antibiotic treats antibacterial and
it just weakens your immune system, which was making the virus,
making me more susceptible to the virus shedding and overtaking
my body. How did I go from left side of
colitis to widespread Crohn's colitis and the matter of four
years that it was life threatening? So it went like
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that no one could find out some of these rude issues.
So when they gave me the anti viral chemotherapy, guy,
I woke up, I became conscious. So I wasn't conscious
for about five or six days, right, okay, And I
don't remember it. I can't tell you anything about it.
My mom will tell me crazy stories. I'm like, I
said that she's like yep, that type of thing. It
was like, okay, just Lee, don't tell. She's like, you
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don't want to know what you were doing. I'm like, good,
all right, I'm just gonna leave it there. But you know,
so when I woke up, it was like maybe five
days later, I called up. I was in natural medicine
school at that point because I started to believe that
there was something I could do about it, because it
was either give up in life. This is your life.
You're gonna be on disability, you're gonna have a you're
gonna poop in a bag and this is it, or
you're gonna fight. And natural medicine at least gave me. Eventually,
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as I started to like get over it spiritually, and
eventually I started to want to fight. I started to
be willing to say, Ma, you don't have to make
the food for me anymore. I'm studying it, I'm making it.
I'm journaling, I'm getting my mind.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Hold but pause for said first pause. Yeah, I just
want to remind everyone. Speaking with Dane Johnson of CC
Lifestyle that's Crone's Colaidis Lifestyle, talk more about that time
where you were like, hold on, something's got to shift
was how did that start to happen for you?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
When they told me they were going to cut out
my colon at twenty four years old and attach a
bag to my stomach that I would potentially have for
the rest of my life, that's when it the victimhood
was like, Okay, I can't just complain about this anymore.
I can't just be a victim and veg out on
Netflix and why me and be angry and you know,
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live in my pajamas because I can't leave the house.
I I had I think something that saved me. Guys.
I had a lot of dreams. If you're a dreamer
out there, man, dream big, dream big. It will save
you from the pain, the anxiety, the unawareness. Because the
number one thing that's going to help any of us
get we want to go is us. It's not another person.
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You have the ability to be intuitive. You have the
ability to create new paradigms, new realities. You have that
you have the idea of to shifting your perspective of
what is. I had to take the worst thing had
ever happened to me and start finding what was good.
So those were like when I finally got back into
a corner, my life, my future, my life was now
at risk. It was just, I mean, years of suffering
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of why me. I got to a point where it
was like, well, this is going to be it and
it was either going to swallow me up or I
was gonna get my nails bloody and start crawling. And
I just wasn't. I think the thing. I just was
not willing to give up my dreams of what my
life was going to be. And I was already robbed
of a good bit of my twenties. And I think,
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so what did you start to do? Specifically, I remember
this one day. What I did is I I didn't
eat for like a day or two, and I was
already scared. I was like, I got over the fact
of losing weight. I was like, fine, if I lose weight,
I lose weight like whatever. So and I was started
tracking my symptoms and then I started noticing that the
pain if I was, if I was, it was an
eight out of ten pain on Saturday, and I didn't eat.
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I just had like like a little bit of soup
or bone broth, period carre, it's little bits of stuff
for Saturday, Monday, Tuesday. My pain went to three and
the amount of bad moons I would track. I was
at eighteen bow movements, and then all of a sudden,
I was at ten or eight, and I went to
the doctor and I remember saying, Doc, I'm seeing the
pendulum start to swing here when I take extreme measures. Now.
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I know I can't keep up these extreme measures as
a lifestyle, but I'm still seeing movement on the symptom.
I know you told me this is incurable, but as
far as my life and like how I can live,
I'm seeing a swing. I said, do you think there's
a correlation. He goes, no, there's no correlation. I said,
hold the phone. You've got fifteen degrees. You've been doing
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this for five thousand years, and you're telling me there's
no correlation between what I eat and my stress and
how I feel and what actions I take on a
day to day basis, and that this is just some
monster that will swallow me whold. It doesn't matter how
I fight, because that's what you were telling me. Once
I heard that, Oh man, you can you can feel
my energy on it. It's like I call BS big time.
(18:07):
I was like, you are no longer the CEO of
my health. You are no longer calling the shots of
what is and what isn't. I don't trust your perspective.
I don't trust your You don't even you know you
can heal yourself. When you intuitively trust yourself more than
anyone else in this world, you got to sharpen your
belief system. I had to get rid of this idea
that I feel sick, I feel angry, I feel depressed.
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But that's who that's my identity, that's who I am now.
So because I refuse to identify with how I was feeling, guy,
it gave me a left lane. I don't feel good,
I don't feel worthy, I don't feel like I can heal.
But I'm going to act and I'm gonna read and
I'm gonna do anyways. Damn, it's like your life's on
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the line. That's the thing. Guy, I wasn't up. I
couldn't complain about it anymore. I complained about it for
four years. I was a victim for four years.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
So what did you start? What do you start to study?
Did you just start studying nutrition or what?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Want to change everyone's lives?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Get your pen and paper. This is it. This is
the biggest thing I learned because I was studying all
these diets and it's like, do the carnivore No, no, no,
eat five hundred bananas no, no, just fast. No you
need to do AIP. No you need to just take
hookworm therapy. No, you need to drink raw milk and
make your own yogurt and every single day and take
ten billion zillion see a fuse of probiotics. It was like,
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there's so much conflicting evidence. I said, Okay, let's do
this Number one. I've got to be the CEO of
my health. So now I'm going to take full responsibility
for my health. I'm not going to outsource it someone else.
So if someone's gonna tell me an idea, just like
they're coming into my business, I'm gonna listen. I'm gonna
tell you to explain it to me like a sixth grader,
and then I'm going to use my intuition to decide
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if it's right for me. So I'm no longer following someone.
I'm now going to absorb and build my custom plan.
I'll take a little bit of that. I agree with that,
I don't agree with that. And then the second thing
is I'm gonna journal every single day as doctor Dane
seeing patient Dane five minutes in the morning, five minutes
in the night. See it didn't. So now I can
sharpen my intuition. I can see what's happening, like a
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graph to my symptoms blood, mucus, urgency, weight, energy, you know, bloating, cramping,
indigested gastritis issues or undigested food in the stool. Like
I'm tracking this every day and I'm saying it's a
one out of ten using my intuition. It was an eight,
it was a six, it was a five. And so
I started journaling every day. Next, I need to get
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control of my mind. So I started realizing that I
just needed to build a foundation where I wouldn't be
stuck in depression and I wouldn't be stuck in hopelessness.
So every day I had to read twenty pages of
a solution oriented book. I just made it up, guy,
I just made it up. When you start trusting your creative, divine,
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barbarian spirit of a human who wants to live this,
just look, there's some obvious stuff. It's just obvious, Like
just read solutions and stop reading. Be it like no news,
no Arnold Schwarzenegger movie shoot them up, no craziness. I
am watching Planet Earth. I am watching I'm reading about God.
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I'm reading about biochemistry, I am reading about autoimmune disease.
I am reading success stories of other people who say
they healed, and I am cherry picking from everything I'm
learning and then trying it on myself, using the data
I'm getting from myself to refine my own plan. That's
when my life changed. I got I got some results
with carnivore and paleo, but it wasn't enough. I got
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some results eating five hundred nanins a day with fratarian
diet with this guy David Klein was talking about at
the time, and I met him and interviewed him, and
it was like, Okay, that's not enough. And I started realizing,
what are the attributes of what they're saying, don't judge it,
what is the highlight attributes? So, if you take an example,
I built something called food philosophy where I realized the
low FODBAP diet was saying something different than every diet.
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It was saying that an avocado can be good, but
if you eat too much avocado, it'll cause of fermentation
response leading to diarrhea of bloating, urgency, brain fog, and
low energy. I said, wait, that's an interesting concept. Maybe
it's just not whether a food is good or bad,
it's the manner which it's prepared and how it's how
much I have of it.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
So I started realizing, like the like, it's not that
one person's completely right and one person's completely wrong. They
had great attributes in both sides. So I was like,
I'll take a little of that. I'll take a little
of that. I'll take a little of that. You all
can keep your flags, and uh, I'm gonna build my plan.
And my life changed. My life changed, But I got
happy before I got healthy. I journaled every day, I
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did twenty minutes of reading. I started doing prayer and
purpose and when I did prayer, it was like the
reason I did prayer is I'd had this one of
my matchmth professors who asked me this question, and it changed.
It's changed my life. He said, Dane, what is the
downside of prayer? How could it hurt you? Can it
hurt you?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
It?
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Could it hurt your effects? Anyway? No, even if you
don't if you believe in Kermba, the frog, or God
or the North star or the universe, whatever, How can
it hurt you?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
It can't.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Could it potentially help? With the science behind meditation, prayer, purpose,
affirmation on nervous system, on how you feel, on helping
you get through another day of being isolated? And I
was house fund for a year. Could it help? It's like,
I guess it could possibly help. Then he goes, that's it.
Start doing things that cannot hurt and can only help.
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So if it can't hurt and it can only help,
do it. Put your identity, put your thoughts, put your
trivial perspective away, and just do things that can't hurt
and can only help. And all of a sudden, I said,
wait a minute, let's just make a list what can
only help and can't hurt? Grounding, sunshine, positive music, a
sleep schedule, breath work, journaling, making, only making what I eat.
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I didn't know what to eat, so I made a
conviction that I was only going to eat what I
cooked for seventy days. It was like, see, it's so easy.
It's just hard as far as a discipline, haven't got
there yet that you're actually willing You ever heard someone
say you just don't want it enough that it was
pissed me off. I'm like, what do you mean? It's
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like I want to make ten million dollars. Well, you
just don't want enough. It's like, what does that mean?
I don't want it enough? What it means it's like
you want to heal? No, you don't want enough. It's like,
what do you mean? I don't want it enough?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
How much is it going to cost? Our first thought
is like how big of a check do you want?
Money is actually the weakest currency to change your life.
The strongest currency is is time and energy. The weakest
is money. I spent fifty thousand dollars, my family fifty
grand and I got worse when I actually started healing.
I spent the least amount of money I'd ever spent,
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but I had spent the most amount of time and energy.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Wow, all right, hang on, hang on, man, you're amazing.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
This is crazy, but god, it's crazy. I'm like reading
your bio and I'm like Jesus, and.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Then talk you a trike you've got. You were like
infused by this energy, which sounds like it. You were you,
like you described, your life was on the line. You
were backed into a corner during this time where were
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you living.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I was living, and it was it was so serendipitous.
I was living a mile away from the beach in
Santa Monica, California, in a three bedroom, one bath with
two roommates, which was the weirdest thing, right because we
had one bathroom. I imagine one bathroom, twenty BOMs they
had to put up with me. I was calm down, guys,
and you got a sick person who's almost dead. That's
when I was housebound for a year. But the one
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of the man's stories who helped give me hope, and
it was Jordan Ruben. He wrote a book called The
Maker's Died and the first fifty five sixty percent of
the book was only his story of nearly dying of
Crohn's colitis and then healing himself in Huntington Beach. On
the beach he got an and lived on the beach
for like six or seven months, and I was living
like ironically, I was living six miles away from where
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the book took place, and so I was just I mean,
a lot of this is when you really break it down, guy,
the knowledge is already there in your spirit. We've lost
confidence in our intuitive nature. How is it you can
look at an apple and you can smell it, and
you can taste it, and you can feel it and
then automatically intutally know how healthy it is. Nope, it's rotten. Nope,
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it's right, Nope, doesn't taste good, Nope, it feels like
you go to the story, you feel it, You're like,
ah nah, not that one. We have just forgotten to
believe in our intuition. When you are reading every day
and you are learning, and you just make healing your
number one priority, whether it's getting out of depression, whether
it's just wherever you want it. Once you make it
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your number one priority and dedicate yourself, you have AHA
moment after breakthrough after aha after aha after and then
all of a sudden and you just realize the road
to success is just finding balance in an uncomfortable place
in your life. Can you find a sense of happiness
and peace when things aren't how you want them to
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be yet? And when you do, you make space for
exploring curiosity, reading, you make space for trying something that's
going to take another week. When I hadn't got there foundationally,
i would try these crazy diets for two weeks and
then I'd give up because I was out of patience. Right,
that's why we go on a diet. People go on
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a diet as a short term imprisonment to change their life,
and they don't want to do it. That's why they
call it a diet. If they liked it, they wanted
to do it, they call it a lifestyle. Right, Vegans
called a lifestyle. They don't call it a diet because
they want it. So there's this when you go through it.
I just had to bare bones ask myself, why can't
I find balance in what? In what my life is
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asking me to do what I am being called to do,
to divorce the falseness of Western world and American living
and accept a more human experience to the earth. Because
when you really look at it's like, what should I eat?
Every diet agreed? You should eat real food that's not
chemically infused from the earth. Like that's everyone agrees. So
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I started realizing these foundational truths and then why am
I angry?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Really, why are you angry? And I started realizing, even
though I'm having twenty bad movements a day, are you
still able to find happiness in life? Like I had
to stop being angry and miserable. I had been it
for four years and I had a reason to do so.
The hardest thing is I had a reason to be angry,
but now I'd no longer serve me and I had
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to get over it even though I had a reason
to be So I started ask myself smarter questions like
ask yourself, now, whatever you're going through, would you rather
the person you love the most go through it or you?
And the answer was obviously me, okay. And now if
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if I learn how to rebuild my life, my spirit,
my mind, my relationship with food, people, the earth, happiness
like what is happiness?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Like?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
What is you know? How will this serve me for
the rest of my life? And that was like will
I be a better father? Could it be a better husband?
Could this be a reason that you know, the woman
I want to marry someday I was single at the time,
would maybe value me and I would value her? You know,
because we don't really fall in love with each other
for our high qualities. It's usually how we overcome life
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that makes us unique. You know. The struggles is what
makes you unique and why you want to you know,
really be who you are and why you want to
be with someone because they have to share values. We
don't have values because of the good things in life.
We have values because of the bad things in life,
Like we don't want these things that we create a value,
you right, Like I don't eat gluten because of the
pain I felt. Now that's a value of my life
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that I don't eat foods high in glycasate and gluten,
you know. And so when I wanted to date, it
was like I needed someone who shared my values. And
so I started realizing that I was creating. I was
deciding who I was going to be in this world.
And then the disease was just kind of almost it
felt like forcing until I just accepted that this was
just better and I had to get over the idea,
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like I had to get something I had to do
and turn it into something I wanted to do. That
was really difficult. You've got to want what's good for
you to really succeed. Because now there's no timer, Now
there's no diet. Now there's just a lifestyle. I always
tell people I don't have a diet. I have a lifestyle.
So you got to change the paradigm. You got to
change the perspective of happiness and choice. And the more
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you read on how food is poisonous, the more you're
going wait a minute to heal. IBD is the same thing.
I need to have the best life and reduce the
chance of any disease for the rest of my life.
I'm not just getting rid of life a state because
I have crome disease. I'm getting rid of glyphisate because
it's been shown to increase Parkinson's cancer, Alzheimer's, IBS, arthritic pains.
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They've already lost in court. I mean, this is bad
for everyone. So I started realizing, like, what do I
want my human life? Me not a sick person, but
how do I want to show up as a human?
And I just realized it was ninety five percent the
same thing is what I wanted. That's what I needed
to heal. And that's when the desire came in and
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the fear left.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
As we I'm going to have to have you back. Really,
it's so freaking inspiring. As we kind of wind down here,
how did you shift into creating CC lifestyle?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
So I believe that we need more conscious capitalism. I
didn't start building CC lifestyle because I thought it was
going to be as successful it is today, I realized
there was a major, major hole in what I needed.
I simply said, I want to build what I needed
when I was chronically sick for years, spending thousands and
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thousands of dollars, not just spending, but alone. And when
I built CCL, it was like I just had to
get a PhD In healing myself mentally, physically, spiritually. And
then I said, well, what am I going to do
with all this information? I started just you know, sharing
my story like this was me a year ago, this
is me now. And then people started reaching out and saying, hey,
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I'm stuck, I'm lost, I'm depressed. No one can help me.
I'm in the same position. Can you help me? And
I said, yeah, let me just see if I can
teach you some of the stuff I learned. And I
started seeing unbelievable like people getting better in three weeks.
I'm going that took me a year. By the way,
I'm like almost angry at something, like you understand how
far it was? How long? Because I had already had
so many failures and failries and failures, and it was like, no,
(32:52):
don't do that, don't do that. I already tried to
go here, but then you know, there's different cases constipation, crozies,
people already had surgeries, people have been sick for twenty
five years, like we're I've worked with a three I've
worked with three year olds, five year olds, eight year old,
sixty five year olds, and you know, so there was
a lot of you know, I remember the first time
I worked with someone who had it for thirty years
and I'd only had it for eight years, and it
was like, Okay, let's see, like I want to be
an integral but uh and I got We got massive results,
(33:14):
by the way, and he still works with me today.
He's like a partner of mine. But you know, it's
it's like the idea of CCL is build what I needed.
We need a home, and it's my home too, guy,
It's not just a company, it's it's my home. Every
day I talk with people around the world who were
diagnosed with the same potentially life threatening, lifelong disease is me.
(33:36):
And they're of every creed, every culture, every every skin color,
every every every walk of life, and we come together
on this common mission of we are not going to
accept being victims of a disease, and we're going to
live our best lives and we're going to make the
best This the best thing that ever happened to us,
and we're going to build our shield. And shield is
your personal shield. Like you don't have to be a
(33:57):
meat eator, you have to be a vegan, you can
be Indian base. We've worked with people who of every descent,
of every culture, every creed, every type of eating style,
and we've started to make sense of how to repair
these problems that the doctors just weren't even mentioning or
talking about. And I'm going to leave you with one
concept that i think will open up a really big
door for everyone listening. People say this, no, that these
(34:18):
autoimmune diseases are incurable, but let me and they say
this no root cause let me ask you this. If
someone has autoimmune disease, do they also have very poor
digestion or do they have an imbalanced microbiome? Because that's
a biology problem. Conventional doctors and natural medicine doctors will
all agree that if you have poor stomach acid, you
(34:40):
have weak pancrotic enzymes, you have a backed up liver
not able to create bio that breaks down fats, you
are going to have digestion problems you're going to have
bound movement issues, you're going to have low energy issues,
you're going to have mitochondria production issues. This is fact.
This is not a debate of root cause. So when
we started looking at how do we optimize the mechanics
(35:01):
of the body like an engine, like a car, Like
if you have a disease, should you just simply optimize
your biochemistry, optimize digestion, optimize the microbiome, optimize the gut
lining and the mucolsa membrane, and optimize the immune system
to act smarter these So the debate is, well, how
(35:23):
and how does it imply to this disease and what's
the clinical research to show It's like you have chronic inflammation.
If you digest better, are you most likely gonna have
less food sensitivity. Yes, it's just fact. It's not for debate.
You don't have to get in this argument. It's like
I just started realizing, can we start just optimize bodies,
(35:44):
Like when you go for a run, you're optimizing your
heart rate? Correct? Okay, so if you take apple side
or vinegar, hot water with lemon juice and maybe a
little fenol or ginger, that will help optimize your natural
stomach acid and pancrotic enzyme movement. If you do, a
ca aster will pack and you get on a sleeping
schedule and you get rid of certain toxic load that
(36:04):
will help optimize your livers detoxification process phase one. In
phase two, it will move stuck bile with chemicals out
of the liver, dump them into the dwatum so you
can properly just scree them and you're less chemically bound
and over toxic, usually causing a HRK number reaction or
brain FOK or skin reactions like eggs must rice. It's
like it's just it's not It's just like obvious. It's
(36:25):
just like this is not up for debate. And that
really saved me guy, because I didn't want to argue
with my doctors. I wasn't a doctor. It was just like, well, doctor,
if I optimize my digestion, do you think I could
start eating food again. It's like it's not a bad thought,
you know, like forget the cure of disease for a second, Like,
can we just I'm seeing undigested food in my stool.
(36:45):
I'm I can't break this. I'm anemic because I can't
absorb the iron from the meat. You see I'm saying,
so we could go into this over and over. I
know we're up out of time, but guys, just start
asking yourselves, non conflicting, simple questions. Can you optimize the
chemistry even and I want to forguy, if your audience
one more thing. If you are feeling bad, anxious, depressed, overwhelmed,
(37:07):
is that also something going on in your biochemistry? Can
you optimize your ability to drain toxins that have clinical
research to show that they're going to affect how you feel? Mercury? Okay?
And research something called light bulb poly sacrites LPs LPs.
The more LPs, the more you're neurologically gonna feel terrible.
(37:30):
The more candida, the more mold, the more it's just fact.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Dan, I'm gonna have to have you back, man. How
do people learn more about you and what you do?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Guys, I just want to let you know that healing
is possible. If you need a team, if you need
a community you're dealing with IBD, We're gonna hold space
for you. You can click on the link below here
in Guys Podcast, We're gonna send him a link that
you can just schedule a free IBD session you can
find a scene where on the internet, but all over
you're gonna see that you can book a free session
with us, and we're gonna deep dive in your case
what's happened. We want to build integrity and trust with
you and if we can help you when it's a fit,
(38:02):
we're going to do everything in our power to change
your life and make you a success story. Thanks for
having me, love man, love it loved and love to
have you back.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
I mean this. I feel like there are so many
ten gentle things that we haven't really touched on and
but so awesome, Dan, It's great to meet you.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Really appreciate you, mean you so we'll definitely run it back.
Thank you, guys, God blessed.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
All right, man, take care
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