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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Trauma Tapis Podcast. My name is Gamick
person I interview incredible people who dedicated their lives to
helping those have been impacted by trauma.
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Here we go, I was just here. Hear me, Yes,
I can.
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We're in the middle of a starting a training in
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This is my studio because we've been doing the event
from If you think it's a bit too much, I
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Uh no, it's well, it's so it's not too much.
The only question is in terms of consistency. You know,
I'm sitting here with my head and you've got your
whole body.
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I can I can sit down here actually because this
is where I teach from.
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My body shows up more than yours, that's all.
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Yeah, that's that's that's better. Easier. Good to see you, sir,
You too, You two guy.
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How are you doing?
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I'm doing great. Thanks so much for taking the time
to do this. We'll have you. We'll go thirty minutes,
thirty one minutes, thirty two minutes and then we'll be done.
But super excited to meet you and talk to you
and love what you're doing. Yeah. So thirty minutes towards
the end, when I get down to asking what's the
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best way for people to learn more about you, that'll
be an indication that we're getting ready to close out. Okay,
so once we do close out, just hang on so
I could say goodbye.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Now, any questions for me, No, in terms I've been
doing a few of these.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
In terms of the style, I've found my style, which
is you take me wherever you want to take me.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I'm a very big Q and a guy in general.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Okay, if you like some that I said, or if
you curious, just take me down that road, great, But generally,
you know, kind of on the fly type of style
is working really well for me because I'm very passionate
about my topic.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
So something will come out that will be useful.
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Love it, Love it sounds awesome? All right, So here
we go.
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You ready, Yes, how's the sound called good?
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That's much better? That was better? Yeah, all right, so
here we go. So five four, three, two and one,
our folks, welcome back to the podcast. Very excited to
have my guest today, Reg Malhotra, Reg welcome, great to
be here guy, Thank you awesome. So Reg founded Neuromasters Academy,
a leading personal development organization helping high performers regain their
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drive and motivation. He overcame his own struggles and limitations
using rapid hypnotherapy as well as neuro linguistic programming or NLP.
Since founding Neuromasters, he has helped others achieve similar results,
making him a sought after expert in mental health and
personal development. As an internationally recognized speaker, coach, and trainer,
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he's impacted over three hundred thousand people. His expertise is
transforming lives by helping clients regain focus, overcome trauma, and
eliminate self sabotage. All right, Rej, a lot there packed
in that little bio. But before we get going, share
with the listeners where you're from originally and where you
are currently.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So you mean location, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
So we're based out of Australia and you know, after
COVID well you know the COVID years, we expanded right
across the world and so we've been working with people
from across the world because we do a lot of
our programs online.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay, And where are you right now in Australia, right
now in Australia. Okay? Awesome, all right, So let's how
did this start for you? How did all this start
for you?
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Sure look like a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
You know, I had my share of adversities growing up,
particularly in the Foundational years zero to seven, and you
know that the kind of adversities that leave you with
a void, you know. In my case, I had to
be moved to my grandparents, and you know, I had
what we didn't not in a long time, one of
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my parents with a mental illness.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Right. So, growing up, you know, I.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Always felt that void of connection with a parent, you know,
and over the years it became bigger and bigger. And
I grew up and did the usual things, you know,
got some work, did well in there, got married, you know,
became a dad, all that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But there was something always bothering me.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
There was resentment, there was anger, the usual things that
a lot of people go through. But for me, I
just kept searching. I kept seeking. I said, there is
something going on. I don't know what it is. And
it led me down different paths. A lot of learning
seminars courses, you know. And it wasn't until I landed
up in this modality, which is NLP hypnosis, that I
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really really, really transformed in a huge way.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
You know.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I met the version of me that I'd never met before,
and I got so excited about it that I couldn't
help it. And I started working with a lot of people,
and eventually I knew that I had to take it
out in a much bigger way, which is what gave
birth to neuro masters.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, so you talked about growing up. Something was going
on you grew up. From what you said, it sounds
like you grew up in an environment where there was
lack of attachment from one or both of your parents,
and that can impact people many different ways. You said
there was a void, but talk a little more specifically
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about how that did impact you growing up and then
beyond teen years and so forth.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Well, it impacted me in that I was, you know,
unable to form good relationships with people. I was fearful
of others, didn't trust myself, you know, I was, you know,
always questioning myself. I've had a lot of negative ideas
about myself, a lot of negative ideas.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I couldn't really show up in the way that I
wanted to.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I you know, there was there was some level of
emotional physical abuse as well at play. I became suicidal
at least on three occasions. I seriously contemplated taking my
own life. Couldn't succeeded that later I found out why.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
So, so a lot.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Of a lot of you could say, trauma, a lot
of you know, inner pain, spiritual pain. You know, as
I look at that part of my life, you know,
it was a mess. It was a complete mess.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
So how did you adapt? How did you cope?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Earlier with alcohol? Earlier with alcohol?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
So it became you know, uh, it wasn't just the
od drink here and there. It was quite a lot
of alcohol. And this was even after I was I
was a parent, you know, in the early years that
became kind of what wasn't I wouldn't go to say
that I was addicted, but I was having a lot
just to get through.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And you know that there was a lot of warning
signs there as well that needed to overcome. There.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
So combination of all of that, I kept a pretty
straight face. I must have made you look. From the outside,
I think people think everything is good you know, earning
good money, got a family and all that sort of thing.
But you know, you know when you know there's something
in right.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So okay, so that's a lot there. You move you're
working at this point, I'm sure what kind of job
were you doing?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Working in the corporate sector? Okay, financial industry.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
So my guess is something something must have clicked or
shifted or transformed such that what did that look like?
Did you realize, holy crap, something's going on and need
to find out what's going on? I can't take this anymore?
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, okay, so I kind of condensed the story there,
but here are some of the missing pieces along the way.
I started a business, and you know, when you're running
something on your own, when everything depends on you, I
see a lot of your issues come up on the surface, right,
A lot of your fears come up because now you're
not in that secure environment of you know, you know
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you're going to get paid. And in the running of
that business, I realize a lot of things that weren't
going right, a lot of mistakes I was making, and
there was emotional outputs, right, So those kind of things,
and I started to become more aware, more conscious that
there is something I started to acknowledge, right that there
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was self hate developing. There was you know, I started
to see all these ideas of people doing work and
personal development work, and it's just starting to look at
those things and you know, things coming up to the
surface to say I got to do something about it.
And in terms of specific events, there was some alcohol
related events that just made it a bit scary even
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for myself. If I don't do something about this, something
wrong is going to happen, and that's gonna not only
haw myself, but it could hurt other people around us.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I mean, I appreciate you sharing that. Yeah, I mean,
this is we're all dealing with to one degree or another, right,
We're all dealing with this stuff, and I think it
really helps people. You know, when you share what you're sharing,
it helps us understand not just who you are, but
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now the incredible work you're doing. So what happens next?
How do the things unfold such that you start getting
into you start growing and healing yourself. What does that
look like? Oh?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
That was you know, it was quite painful to begin with.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
You know, I remember I would go to these seminars
Guy and I would or I would go and you know,
learn something new, and I would go back to the
hotel room that night and I would just burst out crying.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I had no idea what was going on.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
You know they say that process of you know, you
got to go go to go through the darkness to
see the light. I mean, I really did this, and
for my kids it was no less than three years.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I was.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
I was hearing things that was and then you know
a lot of what I teach us about that what
is happening at the subconscious level?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
What what are these ideas.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
And these significant emotional events is a term that I use,
see significant emotional events from the past. That when you
hear things that connect right to events from the past,
your mind does what's called a transderrivational search, and it
tries to connect the information coming in with events from
your life, and that brings up emotions. So it was
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a it wasn't a nice process. I mean, it wasn't
an easy process, but I knew things were changing and
I just get I just got so drawn to keep
going deeper and deeper, and my god, thank god I did.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
So it sounds like, and correct me if I'm wrong here.
When you started that journey, that journey of learning and
trying to heal yourself. You knew there was something more
in you, right or help me find the language here?
You knew that, like, how the hell do I get
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out of this? What was that sense or feeling you had?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I think it was for me. It didn't start with
there was something more in me. It was driven more
by what could go wrong here. I was seeing my
emotional patterns, I was seeing my linguistic patterns. I was
seeing my behaviors, and I was seeing that I was
you know, even though I would make that conscious resolve,
hey I won't do this, I won't say this eventually, I.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Would always go back to it.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And it happened more than enough times for me to
know nothing's gonna change here. I can keep putting a
strong front, you know that. You know that's saying everyone's
fighting a battle we know nothing about, right? How many
people out there putting you know, smiling faces out there
and you know, just wanting others to think they're okay.
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And I just couldn't find anyone to truly other than
my wife of course, to truly confide. And there was
I didn't really understand the idea of getting therapy. I
didn't go in that direction. For me, it was a
combination of, Hey, if I don't do something about this,
something's gonna go wrong. I'm gonna end up literally like
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losing everything that I've created here. So it started from that,
and later on it became like, oh my god, like,
there is so much more to me than I've been recognizing.
That came through the journey.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So you start attending all these these workshops and courses,
et cetera, going to your health going to your hotel.
I mean, I'm not laughing at that, but that you
painted a very picture there, the darkness walk us through.
How do things start evolving such that you're like this,
whatever it was, hypnotherapy or NLP, something was clicking for you.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
So a lot of the work that I was doing
was about disconnecting emotions from significant emotional events from the past.
Now when you go in that territory, it's it's not
like therapy. You don't sit there and talk about your events,
but it is it is the best thing of him,
like mechanical processes, visualization processes, that you can see that
event and now you no longer feel emotion about it.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You can literally watch it like a movie.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
But when you do this kind of work and you're
in solitude, you're alone. I noticed a pattern. Things would
come up, you know, later at night. And I'll give
you an example. One time I was in a seminar.
A seminar leader said, you know you chose your parents
in advance. Like you're listening to it consciously, you can
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entirely make sense of it, right, the words sit inside
your neurology. And then something would come up later that
night and I would just, yeah, I be.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Honest about it.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
I would I would literally just end up in tears, sobbing,
and I couldn't really put my finger as to what
was going on. But little did I know that I
think there was. There was just compounded healing occurring. There
was something leaving the system, as I say, and something
new coming in.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So were these courses or workshops or seminars, were they
on hypnotherapy and NLP or what they were?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
You know, they would sometimes they would be about mindset,
they would be about you know, getting more out of yourself.
But a lot of these references were thrown in and
then I eventually found hypnotherapy and NP and you know
that was I love that because it was showing me
actual results, Like I could see that I don't get
triggered by this thing. I could see that I can
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use my mind to create an idea and feel different
instantly on demand. I could see that I had a
limit decision limiting belief come up and I could get
rid of it. So I like that part of it
a lot. That's why God who does Okay, I can
actually see results and they are measurable.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
So give us a little thumbnail of what hypno therapy
is because I think we'll all have heard it. Some
people have maybe an idea, But how do you define it?
How do you describe it?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Look, yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
There's a lot of misunderstandings, you know, and a lot
of fears if you will, of these ideas.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
But to me, it's very simple.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
You have an intelligence, let's call it the subconscious mind, right.
This is where you're storing all the emotions, storing all
the information.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
You know. It helps give you the programs. If you
do something enough times.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
You know, one university says it's twenty one days, someone
says it's sixty days.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
If you do something enough times, you create a program.
It's held at the subconscious level, so you don't have
to think about it consciously. So there is a separation,
let's say, between the two minds, your conscious mind you're
thinking logical mind like I'm going to go to the gym.
That's your conscious mind saying it. But for you to
develop that as a habit, you know, you have to
do it enough times, and you have to think about
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it enough and have emotional intensity of it and will happen.
So hypnosis is simply bypassing the conscious mind right in
a state of complete relaxation, so you you know, your
little chattering mind is not coming in the way. No
over analysis, no you know, criticism, no judgments, and it
bypasses it and reaches the area where changes are made fast.
I mean, you think about it a smoker letting go
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of smoking. It's a program, right, a pack a day
for twenty years and lets it go in two hours
and never wants to touch it again.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
How do you explain that?
Speaker 4 (16:46):
So, in a state of relaxation, you are more open
to accepting certain ideas, including ideas about yourself, and once
they are accepted, you produce behaviors in line with the
new identity.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
New such estions as opposed to the old. So it's
very powerful.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So talk a little bit about yourself. How did you
start changing yourself in a sense.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
So I would use hypnosis to overcome certain behaviors, certain
patterns like alcohol, like even behavioral patterns, build suggestions and
record my own hypnosis or sit with the hypnosis practitioner.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I also use it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
To improve my performance, overcome procrastination, get clear on where
I'm going on my goals. So it has you know,
if one aspect is about where you're going, and one
aspect is about what you want to leave behind unwanted behaviors,
you know, to create more discipline. And there is a
form of hypnosis that is within the context of NLP
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that allows you to disconnect from your past. I have
a concept called the energy cube. I go go through
it in my book The Energy Keep.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Secret that throughout your life.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Right, you go through these significant emotional events and if
you can think of an event now and you can
feel emotions in your body, then the event is still alive.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
It's showing up energy that you need for the future.
I've worked with people that I've I've worked with thousands
of people. I can tell you.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
But tons of people have literally like no less than
thirty forty major significant emotional events, and then they're thinking
about it, they're talking about it, they're probably dreaming about it.
There's not enough energy available to move forward, to create.
You need energy to create, to create a family, to
create joy, to create business.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
How can you do that? Then?
Speaker 4 (18:36):
If you can think of a past event and feel
emotions in your body, it's alive and it needs energy
to be alive. Submit it very simple to understand this.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Well. I think this brings up kind of the obvious
choice here, which is trauma. I mean a lot of
people who are listening to this or therapists or survivors
or whatnot. And obviously that comes up for lot of people.
So what's the difference here between you said you didn't
get into go down the therapy route, But what is
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the difference from your mind between like therapy and what
you are offering or what you do or the work
you did on yourself.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So a couple of key differences with the work we do.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
It comes in the broader category of coaching, right, and
a lot of coaching is about moving.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Forward, It's about the focus.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
So a lot of what we do is considered generative
as opposed to remedial. That so we say it's generative
instead of being remedial. It doesn't start with the basis
that the person is broken and needs fixing. What we
do is is that you know a person, you know.
It's about curiosity and adaptation. It's about moving them forward
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and the processes themselves. The key difference guy is there's
not a lot of discussion on.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
The detail of what happened, doesn't require that.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
It's specific visualization processes and imagination processes, active imagination, and
it uses you know, the idea of gestall which is
also used in gestorllal therapy though, but it's dissociating, disconnecting
with the events in the first place, to reframe to
grave new meanings to the events. And the only time
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we send the person back into the event in their imagination,
of course, in their mind, is only to test. So
in our work it's not about reliving and it's not
about regression.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It's actually quite the opposite.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Can you observe the event from far, can you look
at it from different perspectives, get new meanings, new perspectives,
and then go inside to test if your body respondise.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
See the body never lies.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
So when did you decide that you wanted to start
doing this work and found your company? When did that start?
How did that start?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
So when when I did this for myself, the results
were measurable. I was seeing results in every area of
my life, my relationships, my financial situation, clarity over my life,
clarity of my goals.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I said, I can't help it. That's not how I started.
I'm going to offer this to work with other people.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
So I started working with a lot of business owners
and you know, literally I had a ninety nine point
nine percent success right in that whoever I worked with
was coming back to saying, this has been incredible. And
so it was a case guy, I just Okay, this
is too fulfilling for me, too rewarding, I like, And
so I couldn't help myself. I was just reaching out
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to people. I said I can do this and would
you like to experience it? And I worked with a
lot of people and yeah, it became clear I need
to find a way to not only do more of this,
but also to teach it. So now I actually teach
and I trained and I certify people to do this
work with others amongst other things.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
So so, I mean, I think a lot of us
hear about people who've done what you do. I mean,
there are coaches out there. So does someone ever say
to you, REDG, you know it's great what you've done,
but you I couldn't do that. I couldn't do what
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you do. You're special, you're superhuman, You're you're just you
know what I'm saying, You're I couldn't do it. What's
your response.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
To that, Well that we call that a limiting belief.
I would refer to it as a you have made
a conscious or an unconscious decision. So from our modality,
we treat all doubts as limiting decisions, whether it's true
or not, as irrelevant. If you said to me, reg
I cannot speak on stage, I will say, when did
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you decide that?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Now there is a lot of meaning behind that question.
We make conscious and unconscious decisions. I'll give you a
small example another high school. I went an audition for singing.
I had no idea how to sing. But like there's
addition going on. I'll go an audition, I go up
to this stage. I have no idea how to hold
a microphone in those days you know you're gonna have
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to hold it near the chin, and I've held it
like that.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It was so bad.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
It was so loud, the speakers screeched, and you know,
the worst thing that can happen to a high school
boy is a bunch of girls laughing in the back.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
It was, you know, it was a terrible day.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I felt a cocktail of emotions right as I look back, hurt, sadness,
perhaps even anger. Now we call that that potentially a
significant emotionally event occurred there, and it is possible that
I made a decision, maybe not conscious to me, that
I cannot speak in front of groups or I cannot
show up on a stage. I know that because for
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fifteen years after that, I would refuse any opportunity to
be in front of groups of people. Little did I
know that this was part of my purpose in life.
So what I'm trying to say here is there is
a limiting decision made. If we can find the event
where the decision was made, and we can go and
remove the emotions from the event and change the meaning,
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the limiting decision disappears. So that's how we treated in
our modality. A lot of people say I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Okay, okay, and we'll have that linked up here at
the show notes page at the Trauma Therapist podcast dot com. Reg.
Super inspiring. Appreciate you taking the time to do this,
and you got me going, man, I'm like seriously, it's like,
I just feel like so many of us live small,
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you know, and we have so many limiting beliefs, so
this is exciting for me. All right, love it all right, Reg,
thanks so much. We'll be in touch. Take care. There
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