November 3, 2025 • 37 mins
British inventor and professor Phillip Milburn joins The Trebles Show to unveil his revolutionary pain-relief technology built from everyday home goods. From research to entrepreneurship, Milburn explores how energy, frequency, and invention merge to heal pain at its source—straight from your living room with his own invention!
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Guys. This guy reached out.
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To me from YouTube, so we're making things happen on YouTube.
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show today, know that I'm connecting with people on YouTube,
engaging on YouTube, and recording with researchers from the other
side of the pond. All right, So I had to
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Speaker 1 (01:48):
Finally, this jump in from the deep one of the
pole and set the freaking mood. My next special guest
has not been here before. He's been engaging on YouTube.
He watched one of the one of the videos and
he told me that he has amazing research that he
wishes to put out and today he is making his
debut on Paranerradio dot com. Please give a warm welcome
to Philip Milburn, from the other side of town, from
(02:09):
the other side of the world. He's a researcher, he
is an entrepreneur, and now he's here to bring his
research to you.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Nol Burn, how do you feel?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Feel quite excited? I mean, you'd be surprised how vanishingly
rare it is to get anybody that will give me
a chance to talk about these things. You are the
second on YouTube and the third in any capacity besides
informal just conversation. So thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Absolutely, you know what, Bro, Sometimes people only care about likes, shares, subscribes.
They don't care about Some people don't care about the
little guy. Some people don't care about the message. They
do it for the money. Quite frankly, this is why
I told you guys on my my little trailer wannabe
trailer that I dropped on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Guys, I'm not polished up by all means, bro.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I'm an average dude that works eight hours a day
just to provide, professor protect my family. I'm not in
special in any kind of way. I'm a college dropout.
For you guys's information, I'm tied it up all the
way to my neck. Believe me, Bro, I am no
special being. However, I take the time of day to
exercise my rights and also put in the information with
(03:21):
people that are genuinely trying to spread good knowledge, like yourself.
You have something that might fit with every single female
listener on the show today, Bro, talk to me about
you about your research.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I will, but first try not to get jealous. I'm
a secondary school dropout, so I can. I may have
just talked to you.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
There, I love it.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, yeah, okay, not every female as will be unpacking.
And one thing I need to top this off with is
I'm not identifying myself as a doctor. If you are
sick with anything benign, worrying, or very dangerous, talk to
one of them. Okay. I'm not attempting to replace them.
I'm not trying to upstage them like I did you
(04:07):
with your dropout thing. I'm merely pointing out what I've
learned doing my research, which thus far has not been
official or done in a lab. I'm aiming to do
that at some point. Now we've got that out of
the way, what comes to mind when you see this?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Oh many different things. I can't really put my head
on the coffee cup.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
It nearly was. It's originally fashioned out of potato, tin
and some cotton. This is what's referred to as an
orgone accumulator. And those of us who are habituees of
the how do you describe this? You know, the world
of cover ups might recognize it on some level. I'm
not going to do in full synopsis of the man's life,
(04:53):
But Wilhelm Reich born in the very late eighteen hundreds
was a researcher of the origin of life and the
essence of the soul. He was some have reasoned he
was a very advanced version of was it mister Dugal
who had those of the soul gets twelve grams lighter experiments?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I believe so.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah. Well, his research eventually to create devices similar to this,
which are this is four layers. You can get away
with three, but it's four layers, well four and three,
so it's three layers of metal, four layers of cotton.
The important thing here is those are in nature perromagnetic
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and diamagnetic placed back to back on repeat. They create
a sort of one way system for electromagnetic energy that
functions similar to how a two way mirror might operate
for our vision. You can look in, but you can't.
They can't look at you back. And what happens is,
upon this energy being filtered in, attracted and filtered, it
(05:59):
arrives in side and with nowhere else to go, is
volly fired out of this exit here. Now that identifies
the function of this device. Do you know how pain
works in the human body on a deeper physiological level.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Please engage let me know. I do not know.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Well. The critical thing here is the method of communication.
You and I talk or text versus the body talks
by electromagnetic signal. So if I pinch myself or claw,
I get a bit of pain, and that starts with
an electromagnetic signal starting here. It travels up through here,
past the gun, show up into the brain. A signal
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then comes back down also electromagnetic in nature, through the
gun show back into the hand and issues the type
and the variant of pain. So it's pinching at mild
level in the hand, and what we get with the
pain Willie response is the same, it's electromagnetics. So my
(07:00):
hypothesis separate to what separate to a lot of what
Reich said. His were far more in depth, but in
simpler terms, what you do is you point this at
your body part that was suffering from various not all,
but a wide variety of pains, and it would spoof
the pain relief response of the brain, leading it to
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not feel anything.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Over to you for questions, Yeah, okay, wait, First of all,
you're using magnets, bro, secure pain.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I'm using electromagnetic energy that's not necessarily comparable to something
you'd stick onto your fridge, but thought of or adjacent to.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
That is nuts. Bro.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Does this actually work? I?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
If you're asking in terms of documented evidence, the one
thing I can point to was the high cooelastic experiments
of the nineteen eighties when it received something of a
revival and the man was researching to see if it
could stop some much more serious diseases. The conclusions were, well,
it's that would take unpacking and take an episode of
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itself to be quite honest, But one thing listed was
pain relief. And in reference to it working, the success
rate that I've observed is hanging around eighty percent, and
a lot of people trialed it for various different things.
We've used it on our phritic pain, We've used it
on injuries just from like falling, dropping objects onto yourself
(08:37):
anything to that effect. We've used it on trigemeral neurelgia.
Do you know what that is? No, that's the worst
pain documented on medical record. It's when some muscles or
nerves up here near the above the nose begin forming
up in all the wrong places, and what you end
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up with is they sort of slam into each other
and intertwine. And I'm told that it is on par
with having a blow torch shoved into your face, and
zero exaggeration, it is actually that bad.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Wow, you've never seen anybody with them. I have to
google that.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
You might have done. You You would think it looks
like someone screaming on the floor, clutching the forehead. It doesn't.
You can research that. But yeah, that is scientifically verifiable.
And the person personally used it put it there. It
didn't stop all of it, which you know, you'd have
(09:34):
to get a you'd have to be full of knocked
out for that to be effective. But it took things,
took the edge off of it.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Do I I do have another question.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So the way aspirin, talanol, at vil, all of these
pain killers work is they send the drug hits the
nerve in the brain, so It cuts off the pain,
but it doesn't cuts off the pain from source. It
doesn't go to where you're damage, where you're pinched, where
you're hurt. It doesn't take it off from there. It
(10:03):
cuts it off. It cuts it off off the brain.
This works the other way around. This takes off the
pain at source.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
That is no I need to specify. It doesn't take
off the pain that's source, because that there's no real
fix for actually mending. I recall one man who had
a foot injury. He broke it somehow, so I put
it on his foot and he said the pain went away,
and he was in utter disbelief.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
He posed for a picture with me and was very
very thrilled. I don't think I've seen anyone that happy
in a while. But I had to caution him and
I say, please do not sprint, jump, jog, anything that
you wouldn't do if the pain was there. Don't do
it because that bone is still broken and is still mending,
even if you can't feel, so be gentle with it.
(10:50):
But at least the pain is gone. And what you
were describing earlier with what was it takes out the
pain at sauce, not exactly put it this way, if
you will listen to a very subtle tune that was
the pain. It might be a voice that's quite soft,
and you don't particularly hear it all the obviously, but
then this comes along and it kind of shouts it
down to well, you can't hear the thing behind it.
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That is an apt way of describing it. So it
overwhelms the response, and sort of this. If seeing my
hand represented feeling the pain, seeing it represents not feeling it.
It's not that it isn't there, just that it's beyond perception.
And given the nature of the human body object permanence
does not mean to our physical being what it does
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to our analytical brains. If you get our if you
get my meaning.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Let me ask you something, why why did you take
that time? How did you find this out?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
When I was sat at home during twenty twenty border
on my mind for obvious reasons, I recalled, it's a
cruel irony. Actually, I was reliving some unpleasant stuff, and
I recalled that somebody who treated me very badly showed
me a channel filled with conspiracy theories. He wasn't that
big on it, but we looked at it together. This
(12:05):
was before things went really a right. I'm not going
to give you that full story because it's pretty ugly,
but I recalled it while thinking about him, and I thought, okay,
I'll look at that. It's a bit of entertainment if
nothing else. So I flicked through a few Then I
heard about this, and given the it was only an
eight minute video, three ahead of its time for quality.
Though this is released in about two thousand and eight nine,
(12:26):
I thought to myself, hold on, that sounds chillingly plausible,
especially given the attitude that the FDA had towards Reich. Well,
I'll unpacked that in a moment. So I thought, you
know what, that's not expensive and that's not complicated. I've
always said if you have it within you to make
a loaf of bread, if you're that capable of your
hands and you're that rich, it's within reach. So I
(12:48):
assembled one that was literally held together with duct tape,
and it looked very unimpressive. But I put it on
myself and I felt something. Now, Initially I said, you've
got to be stingy here, We're go in and call
that a placebo effect. I didn't get that liberal I
like it. I gave it to a then friend of
mine who had post forseectomy pain disordered. You know what
(13:09):
that is? No, Okay, I'm still not a doctor, so
verify this. You can do, though I encourage it. That is,
when doing someone getting over sectomy, there is a one
in fifty chance it will feel like somebody is all day,
every day, and the doctors don't tell you this until
after you've received one. So expecting very little of it,
(13:31):
I said, look, humor, may just try So he uses
it and he says that he can't feel any pain.
I took it as a joke initially a really sick one,
and then I asked him again and he said it
was He said it was true. And the thing that
made me fully believe it is the fact that he's
a terrible actor and if he wanted to deceive me,
he couldn't have done it. So that's what told me
(13:52):
it probably does work. Following that, I thought, okay, you
know what, I'm going to give this to other people.
So I just toured the town. I gave it to
anyone that would make time for me. I gave it
to a florist with pain in both of her feet,
one of them. It went away a lot. The other
one it went away less so but still worth having.
I gave it to a man who runs the record
(14:13):
store who's only three minutes away from me now, for
arthritic pain in his hand. His bones were kind of
I can't mimic it, not without breaking my fingers, but
if you can imagine this coming out a little bit
to an abnormal amount and kind of crooked at all times.
And he said that it worked, so I said to him, okay, great,
thank you, and then I gave it. I couldn't give
(14:35):
you every example, but I gave it to a lot
of different people. I gave it to two girls with
juvenile arthritis in their knees, and the pain took off
very suddenly. They posed for a pic. One of them
posed for a picture with me, and I could have
been reading it wrong, but it might have been flirtation involved.
So fellas get creating, and I sorry, I couldn't give
(14:58):
you every example. I gave it to a girl stomach
pain for it. She didn't identify what it was, but
she did say it went away, so I was happy
about that. I gave it to a female friend of
mine to see if it stopped a period cramps and
it did. She told me that took the pain from
about eight out of ten to one, and I was blown. Oh,
I know, I know right, and I've got somebody in
(15:20):
Canada seeking to create it for that purpose. Now I
need to make a distinction here. I gave it to
another friend of mine for the same thing. I did
not see this coming. She had a copper eeud, are
you familiar with those?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I know you haven't got experience with them. But it's
when a small copper implant, not always copper, but sometimes
it's put inside of the feminine system to inhibit pain.
And because it was made by of copper, copper has
conductive capacities quite strongly, and I think it caused them
to aggregate so much so that it overdosed and backfired
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and led to the pain getting worse temporarily. That well took,
thank God, and I felt quite guilty and border a
drink to make up for that. We're still friends, and
I thought myself, all right, I could really make something
of this. And this is Have you got any other
questions before we carry on?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah? I have a multiple.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay, so we're gonna'm gonna hit you with three off
the bats, so you can take off with the rant.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Again.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I'm not in any hurry to interrupt you, because I
find it fascinating.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
First of all, you.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Have documented research, then I assume you've given it to people.
You have results in extensive periods of time, but for
the past five years. Second, yes, have you been has
anybody tried to take this away from you?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
What do you call it? What's a meet out of?
One more time? Please? What do you have you patent it?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay, those are three questions. Have I documented? A documented?
Was the wrong word I've written down just in I've
written down in documents. I haven't documented. I been to
a lab environment, worked in a peer reviewed setting, So
documented was the wrong word. Yes, I've documented, but not
that have any major gravitas within the scientific community at current.
(17:17):
I'm looking to change that. But you know, I've had
many a curve ball in my life in five years,
so there's a getting those under control and b getting
my head around that. But we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I'm a conspiracy theorist. I'm sorry to interrupt. I'm a
conspiracy theorist. At this point, the scientific community can shove
it because half of the things that they have theorized on.
It's based on theory. I do things that might house
that the scientific community has not peer reviewed, as you said,
has has condemned to be right. You know, how do
(17:49):
you know what rapor rub vix's Okay, so you guys,
So I'm gonna send you an image of what this is.
All it is is petroleum jelly with.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Mint on it. And my mom rubbed it on everything.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Not only my mom, all Latino community Mexican older women
do this for their children when anything hurts. Guys, If
you guys are listening, if you guys are Latinos, you guys.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Know what I'm talking about. Big VIGs.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Vapor rub goes good on everything and anything that that
you have pain with.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You could you could even ingest it.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It tells you in about or not to but you
could even ingest it as a tea. Now in the
scientific community, that's wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Okay. So all I'm trying to do is defend your
research here, Bro.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
The scientific community might throw it to might patent it.
I might allow you to freaking make it into a
business or something, or I don't know what you're trying
to do with it, but you have something that works here, Bro,
you're taking it very it seems like you're not giving
yourself enough credit.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I'm a bit strict with myself and how I navigate this.
The documentation I've made, whether justin here or on paper,
is valuable, and you know, can do a lot of things,
but I'm conscious of the fact that in the scientific
community you'd have to stress this things a lot harder.
We're moving into some what's the word controlled experiments, not
with pain with ice. If you take a bottle, stick
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it in here with another one on top, I'll just
get something to illustrate the point. Take a bottle and
do that. What you end up with is you'll see
the ice freeze up with the bizarre pattern, which can
demonstrate you can visualize at that point something not based
on opinion. Because you can give a placebo effect of
the physical body, you can't give one to water. Okay,
(19:36):
So with that in mind, we're running some experiments along
those lines. And your third question, have I patented it.
I've done what's referred to as the poor man's patent,
which is, you know, you document something then seal it
in an envelope, but I've not officially done it. Add
to the fact that I'm sure will Helmreich did back
in the nineteen forties and fifties, so he's probably beaten
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me to the punch before I learned to walk. Although
the man did say of his inventions that he wanted
them to be re released fifty years after his death,
when society would be more forward thinking, and that was
fairly accurate, as they were released inspiring the video I
first saw.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Not because society is forward thinking, though.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well compared with the nineteen fifties, it is, in at
least some.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Aspects bigger prom.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I did I answer all of your questions there?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yes, you did, Yeah to a degree, in the respect
you have to take the proper chournels to make this happen,
the proper wave you have if you really find any
type of value behind it, I understand, But Bro, you're
sitting on a gold mine.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I don't like the term gold mine because that indicates
something commercialized, and I don't think you're suggesting commercialize it,
because I don't think that's ethical. You know, growing up
here in the UK, where every third story we see
is the Tories are going to privatize, slash sell off
the NHS, and you know there's a lot to like
in the NHS. It's not perfect, but the ethos behind
not having to pay for your health care is something
(21:07):
I think more country should lean into. I'm not going
to turn this into a full political debate though, socioeconomical political.
What I will say though, is, yeah, it is a
gold mine in the sense that there's a great opportunity
here and I want people to you know, I'm not
in this for the money, not to be a hypocrite.
I do have a Patreon on which we we take
(21:29):
the money to research orgun related things. But I've never
denied somebody access to one of these on the basis
of financial inability. I've never hidden that Okay, well we're
going to go for a rollercoaster ride in a moment.
I've never hidden one of these information as blackmail. Forgive
me that This next part is going to be challenging.
(21:50):
So as of a gold mine, yeah, depending on how
you use the word, you're quite correct, and the forgive
this next bit's going to be very difficult for me,
So just bear with me. Back in twenty twenty two,
when we were getting a bit of traction, right, we
I was contacted out of the blue by somebody who've
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seen some of my work, because I'd been discussing with
people on the internet. I didn't have a channel at
that point, but i'd been talking in sectors of the internet,
and it got back to me someone said that they
were suicidal with pain right because of some sort of
nerve damage back there at the you know, a little
(22:32):
under the head. And this person told me they were
considering killing themselves due to that, among other reasons. You
you may have to mute that. Wow, you may have
to replace that word. So I offered one of them
to them, and they followed the instructions and felt much
better for it. They now ride bikes through a living
(22:53):
and they've this person now has a girlfriend and the likes.
But to be quite honest, uh, you know, talking them down,
talking them down was It's immensely stressful. I'm not maligning
that person in any sense of the word. And it was,
you know what, I'm a I don't crumble for nothing.
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And what I mentioned earlier, you know, I'm a tough man.
Dare I say it? Well, you know I've been I've
been through some traumatic experiences in my life. But that
was I was scared. I'll freely admit I was afraid
at that point, but they're doing so much better now.
Everything is okay, and I don't like the the undercurrent
(23:37):
that in someone else's hands, if they were to monopolize
this thing, it could have gone extremely badly.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, you've you've had to save us us all men.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
He should be completely proud of that.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, I think she saved herself. I pointed out bits
and pieces of the like the dos and don'ts of
this thing. Do you qualify, here's how to do it,
that sort of thing. But when she came to patching
herself up mentally and emotionally, she was basically single handed
in doing all of that, mending relationships and whatever it took.
I didn't I don't know exactly what she went through,
(24:12):
but it sounded like she was getting maltreatment and social isolation.
And I'm just glad for them at this point that
things have stabilized. So that's the reason why, and that's
my personal experiences with it. The one thing I'll cover
is the FDA. Right, So, Wilhelm Reich, creator of this thing,
(24:33):
and you might say, sociologists, now there are indications that
he had some nefarious stuff going on, So I'm not
here to glamorize the man, separate the art from the artist,
you know. But one thing I want to highlight is
that he was jailed for interstate shipment of these devices
(24:54):
when they didn't have greenlight, for being sold under a
medical pretense. And what's interesting to note here is that
there were allegations flying around of him abusing his patients
in a manner I don't really want to describe it now.
The FDA, and no authority in fact investigated that. No
one looked into it, no one brought into court over it,
(25:15):
no arrest, nothing. But when these things began to as
some have suggested, when these things are supposed to have
began upstaging medicine, at that point they brought out the
entire arsenal. And I think it speaks a lot to
their sincerity that, you know, cruelty and maltreatment was tolerated,
(25:36):
but something that screwed over somebody's monopoly and profit earnings
were not look into that. Look into that in your
own time, but you'll see what I mean if you
search hard.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Enough, you you hit key points. Today.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I'm just surprised how relaxed her about it, because I
am I'm almost insulted. How people tend to overlook and again,
like we started the show when I was breaking down
to you, some people do it for the money. People
are not here. Some people are really not here to
work with others or help others out. But you've managed
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to help and give one other saw another day with
an invention.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Have you been persecuted by this we executed?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Is a persecuted is way too strong of a word. No,
I from the black lined. Okay, I've been maligned. I've
been emotionally abused. In one case, someone once said to me,
you know, I feel like if you've only lost a
few family members to cancer, you wouldn't be so willing
to talk about this. And if he'd bothered talking to me,
he'd know that I lost my father to cancer. And
(26:48):
do I think this thing would have kept him alive?
Probably not, But there are other things I believe might
have done. Now I'm not going to get into that
because it's a whole nother kettle of fish, but you know,
I further chance I might punch that guy in the
throat for that statement. It was a horrible thing to say.
He didn't even bother to ask. Let's not make it
all about that though I've been it mostly is just
(27:10):
taking the form of insults, but I've never really, I
never had any illegal trouble over it. I've never had
any sort of formal thing from authorities over it. And
that's partly because I make a point of identifying I'm
not a doctor. I'm not claiming to be. I'm not
guaranteeing anything to you except that point that you could
research about post forseecondary pain syndrome. What it is. You
(27:32):
know that is verifiable, so I'll treat it as such.
But you know, I'm very careful with my wording, so
I've not run into any official trouble.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
My condolences.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I asked my mother two years ago for the same thing, Canter.
It was.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
It developed very very fast, so I can tell you
right now it's a horrible feeling and I don't wish
that upon anybody.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, I think the first time I knew something was wrong,
he was dead less than two weeks later. It was
very you know, shock over suspense. There's a director. There's
a director in Hollywood is famous for that. I can't
remember the name.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I don't recall his name either, but.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It's intense you. Okay, so milaned, miligned, I'm not shooting film.
Excuse my thick accent. Then you have then you have
the creation. You have you've patented it, I mean a
poor man's pattern.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah. Distribution, distribution, Okay. Originally we sent these things via
the mail. That was stupid because in going through the mail,
everything receives an X ray, and X ray in nature
is toxic. But given the composite of this and how
it interacts. We know this because Reich tried something similar
(28:52):
where he tried to sort of diffuse active uranium by
projecting all going on to it. But it backfire and
instead of the or going overwhelming the the radiation, the
radiation overpowered it. He got everybody in the lab sick
and had to cancel the experiments. And it also draw
the conclusion that you can't isolate or gone, because in
(29:14):
his thinking, it is everywhere. You can accumulate it, and
you can concentrate it, but isolating is not possible within
the laws of physics, at least as he understands. The
more represented them, there was another point you were going
to make. Pardon me, can just jog my memory?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
What did you ask me before distribution?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Ah? Yes, yeah, So in putting this through the mail,
it received an X ray and you're getting you know,
the human being gets an X ray over it very quickly.
If you linger on an X ray, you will get
very sick. And because of the capacities and the you
know what is done with these things, they retained it.
(29:53):
So what we turned it into was basically a mobile
X ray thing, and it was ended up backfiring in
one case and made somebody feel quinde queasy. I didn't
understand that. I just said, okay, get off it. We'll
we'll talk to you when we're sure. And we theorized
that it was because of receiving an X ray that
(30:14):
or it went through like near to a nuclear power
plant when it was going on the Trans American railway
from washing sorry, from New York all the way to
the Pacific. So we don't distribute simply because it's not
it's not feasible. But what we do have, as you
mentioned before, with not trying to monetize this, is we've
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got a video on YouTube that is free to watch.
We don't even run ads. Well they might get ads,
I didn't ask for them. We don't officially run ads
on it where people can be walked through how to
create one of these things for the price of sod all,
and from what I can understand, at one point in
my life when I was feeling incredibly low, between that
(30:58):
person who had the issue cheering me up a bit.
I also got a message off someone from Pakistan saying
that he'd followed our instruction give one of these to
his grandmother, and her knee stopped hurting and she was
able to get a bit more active for it. So
to know that we'd gone that was our first documented
intercontinental case, and it lifted my spirits at a time
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when I was feeling dangerously low myself.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I'm happy that you're that you're working very, very hard,
and we need more people like you on Earth. I
do have one last question secondary effects.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Oh yes, well good, it's good you to point that out.
Besides relieving pain, you don't have to be in pain
to get a detectable response from these. It depends a
bit on who you are personally and where you put them,
but it's been known to have some similar overlaps with booze.
If you put it on your head, it tends to
make you feel sleepy, and your concentration improves, or at
(32:00):
least your ability to not overthink improves. But it tends
to have a sort of nullifying effect. If you put
it on your heart, you'll feel a bit more loving
and open emotionally. That's just my experience for example. But
one thing that I one thing that's pretty prevalent across everybody.
If you put it on your stomach, assuming you don't
(32:20):
have any metal implants inside of you and you're not
suffered from radiation poisoning. If you tick either of those boxes,
don't point it at that part. But if you point
out your stomach, you'll start to feel a bit more
drunk and a bit more rowdy and uninhibited. So I
would not recommend driving, operating machinery, or social socializing outside
of your rowdy pub mates when you're using one of
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these things.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Wow again, do you mind sending me the links to
the channel to the YouTube video you have up so
that people can learn how to do those at work,
a work, and at home and anywhere.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Guys, if you guys are listening or watching, it's a cup.
It's a freaking cup.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
That point you pointed over your body. It looks it's
surreal of how simple it looks.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, it's a feeling cup.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
The thing is, I'm aware that it's looking unimpressive. That's
one of the first things that was pointed out to
me when I showed a few people on mass in Liverpool,
of which I think three walked away feeling less pain.
But what I say to you is, if you think
it's unlikely, if you think that you shouldn't be taking
it from a secondary school drop out, that's all valid criticism, okay,
(33:32):
but you know, try it. It's highly inexpensive. I don't
personally make any money off of this. If you do
it and you stand to gain a lot, at bare minimum,
you'll prove me wrong, or you'll prove that it doesn't
fix everything. And at maximum it could take away a
lot of pain in your life.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
And don't.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I don't do this for the money or the glory.
That means nothing to me. You know, I have a
job as a blue collar fool. I don't have to
depend on that. Yes, And what I'll add on to
this is I'll send some links if you wish, but
this might just fill in some blanks. Can you see that.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Clearly it's a little blurry. If you send me an
image on three email, I'm sure I put it up.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'll send you an image or a channel link or
something to that effect. So yeah, I can leave links
to every part of this. Does that cover everything?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
That does cover everything? But I am going to ask
you from one last favorite.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I want you to tell people where they can find
you right now, and then I'm also going to put
you in contact with some other podcasters that I know
that are doing a lot better than I am on
YouTube and every other ass You.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Are a God sent and I was going to offer
you this anyway, but I wanted to point out you
mentioned in passing did you say why from two daughters? Yes,
this might be applicable to them, depending on age and
the presence of a copper EYEUD. So maybe talk them
through this if that's if you think, if you're open
to it, see if it does anything for them. You
(35:00):
may also have to be cognizant of how much pollution
is in your area. If you're in a very polluted
area downtown, I'd put it on something on important first
and then move it over, you know, take some baby steps,
but it might serve them well, it could even serve
you well. If you take a knock for any reason.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I love it. I will thank you so well.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Thanks, I'll send you all those things and huge thanks
for throwing me a lifeline with other people involved.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Absolutely, I have that fifty percent of what we do here,
at least in the podcast community is community. Fifty percent guys,
so having connections, showing each other's contacts, but most importantly
putting out messages for healing, for helping each other from
average Joe's Jess like Phil and I.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Please let the world know where they can find you
one more time.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
That's Anomaly Research Labs on YouTube. It can be found
with just put it into the search bar, simple a us.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I love it, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
If you guys enjoy it and you are watching on YouTube,
make sure you check us out on the Parenter Radio
dot com. And also, I am a little late on
responding on this, but do you guys give me a
quick little drum roll.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I am going to pull out and I have.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Oh sorry, sorry, let's just do that one more time ready, Yeah,
as your drum roll, I.
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Finally, this jump in from the deep one of the
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has not been here before. He's been engaging on YouTube.
He watched one of the one of the videos and
he told me that he has amazing research that he
wishes to put out and today he is making his
debut on Paranerradio dot com. Please give a warm welcome
to Philip Milburn, from the other side of town, from
(02:09):
the other side of the world. He's a researcher, he
is an entrepreneur, and now he's here to bring his
research to you.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Nol Burn, how do you feel?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Feel quite excited? I mean, you'd be surprised how vanishingly
rare it is to get anybody that will give me
a chance to talk about these things. You are the
second on YouTube and the third in any capacity besides
informal just conversation. So thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Absolutely, you know what, Bro, Sometimes people only care about likes, shares, subscribes.
They don't care about Some people don't care about the
little guy. Some people don't care about the message. They
do it for the money. Quite frankly, this is why
I told you guys on my my little trailer wannabe
trailer that I dropped on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Guys, I'm not polished up by all means, bro.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I'm an average dude that works eight hours a day
just to provide, professor protect my family. I'm not in
special in any kind of way. I'm a college dropout.
For you guys's information, I'm tied it up all the
way to my neck. Believe me, Bro, I am no
special being. However, I take the time of day to
exercise my rights and also put in the information with
(03:21):
people that are genuinely trying to spread good knowledge, like yourself.
You have something that might fit with every single female
listener on the show today, Bro, talk to me about
you about your research.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I will, but first try not to get jealous. I'm
a secondary school dropout, so I can. I may have
just talked to you.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
There, I love it.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, yeah, okay, not every female as will be unpacking.
And one thing I need to top this off with is
I'm not identifying myself as a doctor. If you are
sick with anything benign, worrying, or very dangerous, talk to
one of them. Okay. I'm not attempting to replace them.
I'm not trying to upstage them like I did you
(04:07):
with your dropout thing. I'm merely pointing out what I've
learned doing my research, which thus far has not been
official or done in a lab. I'm aiming to do
that at some point. Now we've got that out of
the way, what comes to mind when you see this?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Oh many different things. I can't really put my head
on the coffee cup.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
It nearly was. It's originally fashioned out of potato, tin
and some cotton. This is what's referred to as an
orgone accumulator. And those of us who are habituees of
the how do you describe this? You know, the world
of cover ups might recognize it on some level. I'm
not going to do in full synopsis of the man's life,
(04:53):
But Wilhelm Reich born in the very late eighteen hundreds
was a researcher of the origin of life and the
essence of the soul. He was some have reasoned he
was a very advanced version of was it mister Dugal
who had those of the soul gets twelve grams lighter experiments?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I believe so.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah. Well, his research eventually to create devices similar to this,
which are this is four layers. You can get away
with three, but it's four layers, well four and three,
so it's three layers of metal, four layers of cotton.
The important thing here is those are in nature perromagnetic
(05:36):
and diamagnetic placed back to back on repeat. They create
a sort of one way system for electromagnetic energy that
functions similar to how a two way mirror might operate
for our vision. You can look in, but you can't.
They can't look at you back. And what happens is,
upon this energy being filtered in, attracted and filtered, it
(05:59):
arrives in side and with nowhere else to go, is
volly fired out of this exit here. Now that identifies
the function of this device. Do you know how pain
works in the human body on a deeper physiological level.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Please engage let me know. I do not know.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Well. The critical thing here is the method of communication.
You and I talk or text versus the body talks
by electromagnetic signal. So if I pinch myself or claw,
I get a bit of pain, and that starts with
an electromagnetic signal starting here. It travels up through here,
past the gun, show up into the brain. A signal
(06:40):
then comes back down also electromagnetic in nature, through the
gun show back into the hand and issues the type
and the variant of pain. So it's pinching at mild
level in the hand, and what we get with the
pain Willie response is the same, it's electromagnetics. So my
(07:00):
hypothesis separate to what separate to a lot of what
Reich said. His were far more in depth, but in
simpler terms, what you do is you point this at
your body part that was suffering from various not all,
but a wide variety of pains, and it would spoof
the pain relief response of the brain, leading it to
(07:22):
not feel anything.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Over to you for questions, Yeah, okay, wait, First of all,
you're using magnets, bro, secure pain.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I'm using electromagnetic energy that's not necessarily comparable to something
you'd stick onto your fridge, but thought of or adjacent to.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
That is nuts. Bro.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Does this actually work? I?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
If you're asking in terms of documented evidence, the one
thing I can point to was the high cooelastic experiments
of the nineteen eighties when it received something of a
revival and the man was researching to see if it
could stop some much more serious diseases. The conclusions were, well,
it's that would take unpacking and take an episode of
(08:15):
itself to be quite honest, But one thing listed was
pain relief. And in reference to it working, the success
rate that I've observed is hanging around eighty percent, and
a lot of people trialed it for various different things.
We've used it on our phritic pain, We've used it
on injuries just from like falling, dropping objects onto yourself
(08:37):
anything to that effect. We've used it on trigemeral neurelgia.
Do you know what that is? No, that's the worst
pain documented on medical record. It's when some muscles or
nerves up here near the above the nose begin forming
up in all the wrong places, and what you end
(08:57):
up with is they sort of slam into each other
and intertwine. And I'm told that it is on par
with having a blow torch shoved into your face, and
zero exaggeration, it is actually that bad.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Wow, you've never seen anybody with them. I have to
google that.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
You might have done. You You would think it looks
like someone screaming on the floor, clutching the forehead. It doesn't.
You can research that. But yeah, that is scientifically verifiable.
And the person personally used it put it there. It
didn't stop all of it, which you know, you'd have
(09:34):
to get a you'd have to be full of knocked
out for that to be effective. But it took things,
took the edge off of it.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Do I I do have another question.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So the way aspirin, talanol, at vil, all of these
pain killers work is they send the drug hits the
nerve in the brain, so It cuts off the pain,
but it doesn't cuts off the pain from source. It
doesn't go to where you're damage, where you're pinched, where
you're hurt. It doesn't take it off from there. It
(10:03):
cuts it off. It cuts it off off the brain.
This works the other way around. This takes off the
pain at source.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
That is no I need to specify. It doesn't take
off the pain that's source, because that there's no real
fix for actually mending. I recall one man who had
a foot injury. He broke it somehow, so I put
it on his foot and he said the pain went away,
and he was in utter disbelief.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
He posed for a picture with me and was very
very thrilled. I don't think I've seen anyone that happy
in a while. But I had to caution him and
I say, please do not sprint, jump, jog, anything that
you wouldn't do if the pain was there. Don't do
it because that bone is still broken and is still mending,
even if you can't feel, so be gentle with it.
(10:50):
But at least the pain is gone. And what you
were describing earlier with what was it takes out the
pain at sauce, not exactly put it this way, if
you will listen to a very subtle tune that was
the pain. It might be a voice that's quite soft,
and you don't particularly hear it all the obviously, but
then this comes along and it kind of shouts it
down to well, you can't hear the thing behind it.
(11:12):
That is an apt way of describing it. So it
overwhelms the response, and sort of this. If seeing my
hand represented feeling the pain, seeing it represents not feeling it.
It's not that it isn't there, just that it's beyond perception.
And given the nature of the human body object permanence
does not mean to our physical being what it does
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to our analytical brains. If you get our if you
get my meaning.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Let me ask you something, why why did you take
that time? How did you find this out?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
When I was sat at home during twenty twenty border
on my mind for obvious reasons, I recalled, it's a
cruel irony. Actually, I was reliving some unpleasant stuff, and
I recalled that somebody who treated me very badly showed
me a channel filled with conspiracy theories. He wasn't that
big on it, but we looked at it together. This
(12:05):
was before things went really a right. I'm not going
to give you that full story because it's pretty ugly,
but I recalled it while thinking about him, and I thought, okay,
I'll look at that. It's a bit of entertainment if
nothing else. So I flicked through a few Then I
heard about this, and given the it was only an
eight minute video, three ahead of its time for quality.
Though this is released in about two thousand and eight nine,
(12:26):
I thought to myself, hold on, that sounds chillingly plausible,
especially given the attitude that the FDA had towards Reich. Well,
I'll unpacked that in a moment. So I thought, you
know what, that's not expensive and that's not complicated. I've
always said if you have it within you to make
a loaf of bread, if you're that capable of your
hands and you're that rich, it's within reach. So I
(12:48):
assembled one that was literally held together with duct tape,
and it looked very unimpressive. But I put it on
myself and I felt something. Now, Initially I said, you've
got to be stingy here, We're go in and call
that a placebo effect. I didn't get that liberal I
like it. I gave it to a then friend of
mine who had post forseectomy pain disordered. You know what
(13:09):
that is? No, Okay, I'm still not a doctor, so
verify this. You can do, though I encourage it. That is,
when doing someone getting over sectomy, there is a one
in fifty chance it will feel like somebody is all day,
every day, and the doctors don't tell you this until
after you've received one. So expecting very little of it,
(13:31):
I said, look, humor, may just try So he uses
it and he says that he can't feel any pain.
I took it as a joke initially a really sick one,
and then I asked him again and he said it
was He said it was true. And the thing that
made me fully believe it is the fact that he's
a terrible actor and if he wanted to deceive me,
he couldn't have done it. So that's what told me
(13:52):
it probably does work. Following that, I thought, okay, you
know what, I'm going to give this to other people.
So I just toured the town. I gave it to
anyone that would make time for me. I gave it
to a florist with pain in both of her feet,
one of them. It went away a lot. The other
one it went away less so but still worth having.
I gave it to a man who runs the record
(14:13):
store who's only three minutes away from me now, for
arthritic pain in his hand. His bones were kind of
I can't mimic it, not without breaking my fingers, but
if you can imagine this coming out a little bit
to an abnormal amount and kind of crooked at all times.
And he said that it worked, so I said to him, okay, great,
thank you, and then I gave it. I couldn't give
(14:35):
you every example, but I gave it to a lot
of different people. I gave it to two girls with
juvenile arthritis in their knees, and the pain took off
very suddenly. They posed for a pic. One of them
posed for a picture with me, and I could have
been reading it wrong, but it might have been flirtation involved.
So fellas get creating, and I sorry, I couldn't give
(14:58):
you every example. I gave it to a girl stomach
pain for it. She didn't identify what it was, but
she did say it went away, so I was happy
about that. I gave it to a female friend of
mine to see if it stopped a period cramps and
it did. She told me that took the pain from
about eight out of ten to one, and I was blown. Oh,
I know, I know right, and I've got somebody in
(15:20):
Canada seeking to create it for that purpose. Now I
need to make a distinction here. I gave it to
another friend of mine for the same thing. I did
not see this coming. She had a copper eeud, are
you familiar with those?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I know you haven't got experience with them. But it's
when a small copper implant, not always copper, but sometimes
it's put inside of the feminine system to inhibit pain.
And because it was made by of copper, copper has
conductive capacities quite strongly, and I think it caused them
to aggregate so much so that it overdosed and backfired
(15:56):
and led to the pain getting worse temporarily. That well took,
thank God, and I felt quite guilty and border a
drink to make up for that. We're still friends, and
I thought myself, all right, I could really make something
of this. And this is Have you got any other
questions before we carry on?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah? I have a multiple.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay, so we're gonna'm gonna hit you with three off
the bats, so you can take off with the rant.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Again.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I'm not in any hurry to interrupt you, because I
find it fascinating.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
First of all, you.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Have documented research, then I assume you've given it to people.
You have results in extensive periods of time, but for
the past five years. Second, yes, have you been has
anybody tried to take this away from you?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
What do you call it? What's a meet out of?
One more time? Please? What do you have you patent it?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Okay, those are three questions. Have I documented? A documented?
Was the wrong word I've written down just in I've
written down in documents. I haven't documented. I been to
a lab environment, worked in a peer reviewed setting, So
documented was the wrong word. Yes, I've documented, but not
that have any major gravitas within the scientific community at current.
(17:17):
I'm looking to change that. But you know, I've had
many a curve ball in my life in five years,
so there's a getting those under control and b getting
my head around that. But we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I'm a conspiracy theorist. I'm sorry to interrupt. I'm a
conspiracy theorist. At this point, the scientific community can shove
it because half of the things that they have theorized on.
It's based on theory. I do things that might house
that the scientific community has not peer reviewed, as you said,
has has condemned to be right. You know, how do
(17:49):
you know what rapor rub vix's Okay, so you guys,
So I'm gonna send you an image of what this is.
All it is is petroleum jelly with.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Mint on it. And my mom rubbed it on everything.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Not only my mom, all Latino community Mexican older women
do this for their children when anything hurts. Guys, If
you guys are listening, if you guys are Latinos, you guys.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Know what I'm talking about. Big VIGs.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Vapor rub goes good on everything and anything that that
you have pain with.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You could you could even ingest it.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
It tells you in about or not to but you
could even ingest it as a tea. Now in the
scientific community, that's wrong.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Okay. So all I'm trying to do is defend your
research here, Bro.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
The scientific community might throw it to might patent it.
I might allow you to freaking make it into a
business or something, or I don't know what you're trying
to do with it, but you have something that works here, Bro,
you're taking it very it seems like you're not giving
yourself enough credit.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I'm a bit strict with myself and how I navigate this.
The documentation I've made, whether justin here or on paper,
is valuable, and you know, can do a lot of things,
but I'm conscious of the fact that in the scientific
community you'd have to stress this things a lot harder.
We're moving into some what's the word controlled experiments, not
with pain with ice. If you take a bottle, stick
(19:13):
it in here with another one on top, I'll just
get something to illustrate the point. Take a bottle and
do that. What you end up with is you'll see
the ice freeze up with the bizarre pattern, which can
demonstrate you can visualize at that point something not based
on opinion. Because you can give a placebo effect of
the physical body, you can't give one to water. Okay,
(19:36):
So with that in mind, we're running some experiments along
those lines. And your third question, have I patented it.
I've done what's referred to as the poor man's patent,
which is, you know, you document something then seal it
in an envelope, but I've not officially done it. Add
to the fact that I'm sure will Helmreich did back
in the nineteen forties and fifties, so he's probably beaten
(19:59):
me to the punch before I learned to walk. Although
the man did say of his inventions that he wanted
them to be re released fifty years after his death,
when society would be more forward thinking, and that was
fairly accurate, as they were released inspiring the video I
first saw.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Not because society is forward thinking, though.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well compared with the nineteen fifties, it is, in at
least some.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Aspects bigger prom.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I did I answer all of your questions there?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yes, you did, Yeah to a degree, in the respect
you have to take the proper chournels to make this happen,
the proper wave you have if you really find any
type of value behind it, I understand, But Bro, you're
sitting on a gold mine.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I don't like the term gold mine because that indicates
something commercialized, and I don't think you're suggesting commercialize it,
because I don't think that's ethical. You know, growing up
here in the UK, where every third story we see
is the Tories are going to privatize, slash sell off
the NHS, and you know there's a lot to like
in the NHS. It's not perfect, but the ethos behind
not having to pay for your health care is something
(21:07):
I think more country should lean into. I'm not going
to turn this into a full political debate though, socioeconomical political.
What I will say though, is, yeah, it is a
gold mine in the sense that there's a great opportunity
here and I want people to you know, I'm not
in this for the money, not to be a hypocrite.
I do have a Patreon on which we we take
(21:29):
the money to research orgun related things. But I've never
denied somebody access to one of these on the basis
of financial inability. I've never hidden that Okay, well we're
going to go for a rollercoaster ride in a moment.
I've never hidden one of these information as blackmail. Forgive
me that This next part is going to be challenging.
(21:50):
So as of a gold mine, yeah, depending on how
you use the word, you're quite correct, and the forgive
this next bit's going to be very difficult for me,
So just bear with me. Back in twenty twenty two,
when we were getting a bit of traction, right, we
I was contacted out of the blue by somebody who've
(22:12):
seen some of my work, because I'd been discussing with
people on the internet. I didn't have a channel at
that point, but i'd been talking in sectors of the internet,
and it got back to me someone said that they
were suicidal with pain right because of some sort of
nerve damage back there at the you know, a little
(22:32):
under the head. And this person told me they were
considering killing themselves due to that, among other reasons. You
you may have to mute that. Wow, you may have
to replace that word. So I offered one of them
to them, and they followed the instructions and felt much
better for it. They now ride bikes through a living
(22:53):
and they've this person now has a girlfriend and the likes.
But to be quite honest, uh, you know, talking them down,
talking them down was It's immensely stressful. I'm not maligning
that person in any sense of the word. And it was,
you know what, I'm a I don't crumble for nothing.
(23:15):
And what I mentioned earlier, you know, I'm a tough man.
Dare I say it? Well, you know I've been I've
been through some traumatic experiences in my life. But that
was I was scared. I'll freely admit I was afraid
at that point, but they're doing so much better now.
Everything is okay, and I don't like the the undercurrent
(23:37):
that in someone else's hands, if they were to monopolize
this thing, it could have gone extremely badly.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, you've you've had to save us us all men.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
He should be completely proud of that.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, I think she saved herself. I pointed out bits
and pieces of the like the dos and don'ts of
this thing. Do you qualify, here's how to do it,
that sort of thing. But when she came to patching
herself up mentally and emotionally, she was basically single handed
in doing all of that, mending relationships and whatever it took.
I didn't I don't know exactly what she went through,
(24:12):
but it sounded like she was getting maltreatment and social isolation.
And I'm just glad for them at this point that
things have stabilized. So that's the reason why, and that's
my personal experiences with it. The one thing I'll cover
is the FDA. Right, So, Wilhelm Reich, creator of this thing,
(24:33):
and you might say, sociologists, now there are indications that
he had some nefarious stuff going on, So I'm not
here to glamorize the man, separate the art from the artist,
you know. But one thing I want to highlight is
that he was jailed for interstate shipment of these devices
(24:54):
when they didn't have greenlight, for being sold under a
medical pretense. And what's interesting to note here is that
there were allegations flying around of him abusing his patients
in a manner I don't really want to describe it now.
The FDA, and no authority in fact investigated that. No
one looked into it, no one brought into court over it,
(25:15):
no arrest, nothing. But when these things began to as
some have suggested, when these things are supposed to have
began upstaging medicine, at that point they brought out the
entire arsenal. And I think it speaks a lot to
their sincerity that, you know, cruelty and maltreatment was tolerated,
(25:36):
but something that screwed over somebody's monopoly and profit earnings
were not look into that. Look into that in your
own time, but you'll see what I mean if you
search hard.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Enough, you you hit key points. Today.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I'm just surprised how relaxed her about it, because I
am I'm almost insulted. How people tend to overlook and again,
like we started the show when I was breaking down
to you, some people do it for the money. People
are not here. Some people are really not here to
work with others or help others out. But you've managed
(26:17):
to help and give one other saw another day with
an invention.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Have you been persecuted by this we executed?
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Is a persecuted is way too strong of a word. No,
I from the black lined. Okay, I've been maligned. I've
been emotionally abused. In one case, someone once said to me,
you know, I feel like if you've only lost a
few family members to cancer, you wouldn't be so willing
to talk about this. And if he'd bothered talking to me,
he'd know that I lost my father to cancer. And
(26:48):
do I think this thing would have kept him alive?
Probably not, But there are other things I believe might
have done. Now I'm not going to get into that
because it's a whole nother kettle of fish, but you know,
I further chance I might punch that guy in the
throat for that statement. It was a horrible thing to say.
He didn't even bother to ask. Let's not make it
all about that though I've been it mostly is just
(27:10):
taking the form of insults, but I've never really, I
never had any illegal trouble over it. I've never had
any sort of formal thing from authorities over it. And
that's partly because I make a point of identifying I'm
not a doctor. I'm not claiming to be. I'm not
guaranteeing anything to you except that point that you could
research about post forseecondary pain syndrome. What it is. You
(27:32):
know that is verifiable, so I'll treat it as such.
But you know, I'm very careful with my wording, so
I've not run into any official trouble.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
My condolences.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I asked my mother two years ago for the same thing, Canter.
It was.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
It developed very very fast, so I can tell you
right now it's a horrible feeling and I don't wish
that upon anybody.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, I think the first time I knew something was wrong,
he was dead less than two weeks later. It was
very you know, shock over suspense. There's a director. There's
a director in Hollywood is famous for that. I can't
remember the name.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I don't recall his name either, but.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
It's intense you. Okay, so milaned, miligned, I'm not shooting film.
Excuse my thick accent. Then you have then you have
the creation. You have you've patented it, I mean a
poor man's pattern.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah. Distribution, distribution, Okay. Originally we sent these things via
the mail. That was stupid because in going through the mail,
everything receives an X ray, and X ray in nature
is toxic. But given the composite of this and how
it interacts. We know this because Reich tried something similar
(28:52):
where he tried to sort of diffuse active uranium by
projecting all going on to it. But it backfire and
instead of the or going overwhelming the the radiation, the
radiation overpowered it. He got everybody in the lab sick
and had to cancel the experiments. And it also draw
the conclusion that you can't isolate or gone, because in
(29:14):
his thinking, it is everywhere. You can accumulate it, and
you can concentrate it, but isolating is not possible within
the laws of physics, at least as he understands. The
more represented them, there was another point you were going
to make. Pardon me, can just jog my memory?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
What did you ask me before distribution?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Ah? Yes, yeah, So in putting this through the mail,
it received an X ray and you're getting you know,
the human being gets an X ray over it very quickly.
If you linger on an X ray, you will get
very sick. And because of the capacities and the you
know what is done with these things, they retained it.
(29:53):
So what we turned it into was basically a mobile
X ray thing, and it was ended up backfiring in
one case and made somebody feel quinde queasy. I didn't
understand that. I just said, okay, get off it. We'll
we'll talk to you when we're sure. And we theorized
that it was because of receiving an X ray that
(30:14):
or it went through like near to a nuclear power
plant when it was going on the Trans American railway
from washing sorry, from New York all the way to
the Pacific. So we don't distribute simply because it's not
it's not feasible. But what we do have, as you
mentioned before, with not trying to monetize this, is we've
(30:36):
got a video on YouTube that is free to watch.
We don't even run ads. Well they might get ads,
I didn't ask for them. We don't officially run ads
on it where people can be walked through how to
create one of these things for the price of sod all,
and from what I can understand, at one point in
my life when I was feeling incredibly low, between that
(30:58):
person who had the issue cheering me up a bit.
I also got a message off someone from Pakistan saying
that he'd followed our instruction give one of these to
his grandmother, and her knee stopped hurting and she was
able to get a bit more active for it. So
to know that we'd gone that was our first documented
intercontinental case, and it lifted my spirits at a time
(31:20):
when I was feeling dangerously low myself.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I'm happy that you're that you're working very, very hard,
and we need more people like you on Earth. I
do have one last question secondary effects.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Oh yes, well good, it's good you to point that out.
Besides relieving pain, you don't have to be in pain
to get a detectable response from these. It depends a
bit on who you are personally and where you put them,
but it's been known to have some similar overlaps with booze.
If you put it on your head, it tends to
make you feel sleepy, and your concentration improves, or at
(32:00):
least your ability to not overthink improves. But it tends
to have a sort of nullifying effect. If you put
it on your heart, you'll feel a bit more loving
and open emotionally. That's just my experience for example. But
one thing that I one thing that's pretty prevalent across everybody.
If you put it on your stomach, assuming you don't
(32:20):
have any metal implants inside of you and you're not
suffered from radiation poisoning. If you tick either of those boxes,
don't point it at that part. But if you point
out your stomach, you'll start to feel a bit more
drunk and a bit more rowdy and uninhibited. So I
would not recommend driving, operating machinery, or social socializing outside
of your rowdy pub mates when you're using one of
(32:42):
these things.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Wow again, do you mind sending me the links to
the channel to the YouTube video you have up so
that people can learn how to do those at work,
a work, and at home and anywhere.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Guys, if you guys are listening or watching, it's a cup.
It's a freaking cup.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
That point you pointed over your body. It looks it's
surreal of how simple it looks.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, it's a feeling cup.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
The thing is, I'm aware that it's looking unimpressive. That's
one of the first things that was pointed out to
me when I showed a few people on mass in Liverpool,
of which I think three walked away feeling less pain.
But what I say to you is, if you think
it's unlikely, if you think that you shouldn't be taking
it from a secondary school drop out, that's all valid criticism, okay,
(33:32):
but you know, try it. It's highly inexpensive. I don't
personally make any money off of this. If you do
it and you stand to gain a lot, at bare minimum,
you'll prove me wrong, or you'll prove that it doesn't
fix everything. And at maximum it could take away a
lot of pain in your life.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
And don't.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I don't do this for the money or the glory.
That means nothing to me. You know, I have a
job as a blue collar fool. I don't have to
depend on that. Yes, And what I'll add on to
this is I'll send some links if you wish, but
this might just fill in some blanks. Can you see that.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Clearly it's a little blurry. If you send me an
image on three email, I'm sure I put it up.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'll send you an image or a channel link or
something to that effect. So yeah, I can leave links
to every part of this. Does that cover everything?
Speaker 3 (34:20):
That does cover everything? But I am going to ask
you from one last favorite.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I want you to tell people where they can find
you right now, and then I'm also going to put
you in contact with some other podcasters that I know
that are doing a lot better than I am on
YouTube and every other ass You.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Are a God sent and I was going to offer
you this anyway, but I wanted to point out you
mentioned in passing did you say why from two daughters? Yes,
this might be applicable to them, depending on age and
the presence of a copper EYEUD. So maybe talk them
through this if that's if you think, if you're open
to it, see if it does anything for them. You
(35:00):
may also have to be cognizant of how much pollution
is in your area. If you're in a very polluted
area downtown, I'd put it on something on important first
and then move it over, you know, take some baby steps,
but it might serve them well, it could even serve
you well. If you take a knock for any reason.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
I love it. I will thank you so well.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Thanks, I'll send you all those things and huge thanks
for throwing me a lifeline with other people involved.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Absolutely, I have that fifty percent of what we do here,
at least in the podcast community is community. Fifty percent guys,
so having connections, showing each other's contacts, but most importantly
putting out messages for healing, for helping each other from
average Joe's Jess like Phil and I.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Please let the world know where they can find you
one more time.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
That's Anomaly Research Labs on YouTube. It can be found
with just put it into the search bar, simple a us.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I love it, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
If you guys enjoy it and you are watching on YouTube,
make sure you check us out on the Parenter Radio
dot com. And also, I am a little late on
responding on this, but do you guys give me a
quick little drum roll.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I am going to pull out and I have.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Oh sorry, sorry, let's just do that one more time ready, Yeah,
as your drum roll, I.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Want to make sure you guys have a quick check out,
quick shout outs to Chrisy coop Copola What chrisy Coopola
on Instagram. This episode goes out to you. You are
the listener of the week, Mad Love and Respect for
always engaging, giving us likes and following us on Instagram.
If you have already done so, make sure you check
(36:47):
us out on YouTube. Guys like share Subscribe, drop a
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Speaker 3 (36:54):
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