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July 14, 2025 66 mins

In this episode, Paul & Azar discuss some of the most popular current events within pop culture including Diddy’s legal battle, Jay-Z’s alleged son, women looking for “baby daddy situations” and so much more!! Put the kids to sleep & tune in to The Truth After Dark!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
My my vibe, my.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Or and why I feel like I'm beautiful is because
of my personality, is because of how genuine I am.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
It is because how you got to keep telling yourself
that at this stage, because because you.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
Got to convince yourself.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Plies put out a ps a public that says that
says forty and up with a good job.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Where y'all at. He's on the hunt, and he said,
if you forty en up, that's what he's looking for.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Come on, bro, what's the qualification. It can't just be
forty hey, you ain't slick. You ain't slick, and you
know them forty enough. They are a little insecure, they desperate.
You think you slick flies.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
All it takes is for a bitch to look good, period.
And all it takes is for a bitch and one
loose night. And now I'm connected to you for eighteen
plus years and you're paying me every month.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
That's it, that's it, And these bitches are.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Unless you jay z. I want tonight, I want to know.
I said so real?

Speaker 5 (01:16):
No, I said so real tonight what I definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Want to die.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
That's gonna hit hard bed and women gonna feel this one.

(01:41):
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Speaker 2 (02:44):
So we're gonna touch on some current events. Number one,
to start Ditty's legal battle first of all, so it
looks like Ditty is probably gonna get off right now.
His lawyers agreed to a sentencing sentence seen date of
October third. They first pushed back on that date initially,

(03:05):
but they agreed to October third. The defense must file
motions by July thirtieth, with a government response by August twentieth.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
What do you mean you think he's gonna get off
of what the major charges?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah, for sure, So he's probably looking at which is
what his like the defense is working towards is basically
like twenty one to like thirty months. Really, Yeah, they're
trying to get him like five to ten years, but
I don't think that's gonna hapen.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
And that's what time serves. So by time October come,
he would have already did like sixteen months, maybe almost
a year and a half by like over a little
over year.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah, being there for less than a year exactly from
the time they announced.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, yeamn, that's weird getting off on a lot.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
So you know what's crazy, like and we talk about
this trial now. The reason he getting off, of course,
he had a great defense team. But let's not forget
what the charges was. You know, the charges wasn't like
sexual harassment or it was like the charge It wasn't

(04:20):
like battery or like you know, because we saw a
lot of violence with him and Cassie, right, we saw
a lot of things that we don't like to see
and or hear of how the women, of course, but
that wasn't the case. The main case was racketeering, now

(04:45):
sex trafficking. Now is he or did he do some
bad things?

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Absolutely? Like absolutely, he will.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Never be looked at the same, you know, and moving
forward when he does get out, like be interesting to
be like what type of business opportunities or what type
of life will we live?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Definitely, you know what I'm saying, His life will definitely
be shaped differently.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, And that's the thing you're like, damn, because it's
like reputation is pretty much kind of ruined, right yeah,
and so like who's like gonna associate with him? Like
who wants to be a part of that association? Because
now who are what? How are we gonna look at you? Man?

(05:32):
So you know, it's it's something that's happened, and these
is the current events, and it really shares some light
on like the power in the music industry that people have.
And I'm gonna tell you that Diddy isn't alone in this.
There's a lot of other people that names haven't been

(05:56):
brought up. Yeah, and I don't facts, but this is.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Not a.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
One of one absolutely, because you when you're in the
industry and you're in the culture and you hear about
certain situations the thing about Diddy. You heard about this
for years, but now it got brought to the forefront
for the people to know what's going on. But it's
a lot of people that stuff been going on for

(06:24):
years that it ain't a fact. It's hearsay, And you know,
throughout the industry and throughout rap culture and hip hop culture,
you hear things. Yeah, but I'll take it with a
grain of salt to where I'm like, yeah, whatever, until
it's the fact, when they going that court they present

(06:46):
the facts. Yeah, then that's when the realization of it,
when your your heroes and the people you you idolize,
shit start coming to light and you're like, damn, I
heard it, but I didn't want to believe it. Yeah,
there's a lot of rumors on a lot of stars
like that, man.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
I'm telling you. So.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Another thing is that jay Z has an alleged son,
and his son wins a major step in his paternity case.
So the court reportedly ordered jay Z to submit a
DNA sample. Jay Z has had this alleged son. He
looks just like him, but he's been denying it for
a very long time. The son came out and did

(07:23):
a whole court case and was like, no, you're going
to prove the paternity test because I know you're my father.
You know what, I actually don't know his age. I
think he's older though he's yeah, he's like a drown man.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, he's around that age, so he's older.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
But he's like not, He's like, this is not He's
not claiming that son period. So now the court reportedly
ordered jay Z to submit a DNA sample, and now
jay Z has to submit that and we have to
find out the verdict if that's his son or not.
But at this point, the sun has grown, so he's
probably just like okay.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
But like, let's just say the son comes back and
is his son? You gotta play like back child.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Support maybe really, I don't know how does that work.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I don't know exactly how that works, but I'm sure
he's going to be paying something up. I don't know
if it's back child support or if that's even took ago.
Then he has been he's been trying to get him
to do this test for a long time and jay
Z has been like, uh, I'm Beyonce, this is my family.
I don't know what you talk about. You ain't my son.
He's been ninety for years. This is not it was

(08:31):
like some teen mom pregnancy situation. Yeah, he's been denying
this shit forever. He don't want to claim this son none.
He's like, girl, you better figure.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
It out, Like that ain't my son.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
How did it take so long to get the.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Court Because it's one of those situations where he can't
force him to do that, and jay Z's a powerful man,
so this son don't have the access to resources of
the money that jay Z has. So going up against
a jay Z trying to prove that you're that his
father like that takes years and years and years of effort.
Like finally he's been pursuing this for a long time.

(09:07):
Finally he's able to do it. You don't think that
mom has been pursuing it for her whole entire life.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
To get that jay Z money.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah, what what you mean? Whatever, come on, you need
to go with that. You got a whole beard.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah. When she wants her money and he wants his money,
they want to they want that. They're like, listen, I
had your baby. Jay Z said, listen, you're not about
to ruin my family. We're not about to be the
polygamiss over here, Paula A Marie were about to have
our shit. You know this ain't about to be that.
So he said, this ain't my son. Whatever, girl get
on so that yeah, we'll see. So that actually triggered

(09:52):
Nicki Minaj. So I don't know if you know that.
Nicki Minaj has beef with jay Z because she feels
like he owes her all this money rock Nation and
says that he owes her one hundred to two hundred
million in karmic debt and that she claims she'll use
that money to pay her fans college tuition.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Why wait was she.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
So?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, so Nikki had some associates. Basically, Nikki feels like
jay Z backdoored her career and like fucked her career
up in a certain way, and that's what she claims.
So she feels like he owes her X amount of
money in cars. Yeah, exactly, like you kind of fucked
me over. I would have made this money.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
You did me dirty.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
You're a trifling man. So now she's like going hard.
You know, Nikki, don't they she don't. She don't stay silent.
I mean, obviously we never know. But another thing she
said on the Internet. So Meghan the Stallion is facing
another harassment lawsuit. Her former cameraman, who is gay, alleges

(10:58):
he was forced to watch her have set in a
moving car and a Biza and Megan. They tried to
dismiss the motion, but the judge denied Megan and Rock
Nation's motion to dismiss, so the case has to move forward.
He got something because they're like, nope, we're not denying this.

(11:18):
We have some type of proof where we're gonna have
to make this case move forward.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
And if I actually, if you're my camera man, I
actually to take this. Is that forca and you just
do it or you say no, I'm not going to
do it. You got to say no first, and it's
got to be proof of you saying no.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
That's not true because a lot of the time people
can say I felt like.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
My job was on the line.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I never said that though.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
But you can feel like, you know, there could be
insinuations like you have to do this.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
This is about person.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Oh my god, I have I need to make I
need to make money, you know, like I need my
career and if I don't do this, it's giving I
won't have a job. So you know, it could be like,
you know, you feel like your core or you feel
like you have to do it.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Everybody, you know, we all like I feel like forced
is such a strong word. If it's not like a
like demanding, or if it's not on tape and you're
not like saying if you don't do this, like if
there's proof of that, but like if you my camera
record and there's something going on.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's but they're not saying that he had to record it.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
He's saying that he forced her to watch it.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
She forced him.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
To watch like recorded, didn't watch it.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Not recorded.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
She's just the key's of cameraman. But he wasn't cameramanning anything. Yeah,
like I want you to watch me have sex anyways,
I'm not gonna wrack that. But Nicki Minaj also referenced
that as well, and she was throwing subliminals because she
again she don't rock nation.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
This is my thing too. And I'm not saying and
he wrong or she wrong or he listen. Like the
thing about the society we live in right now where
we at, everybody's such a money gras, so much of
a money grap going on out there. It's almost sickening
of the things that's going on, and some of them

(13:18):
are justified, definitely, you know, and I'm not saying all
of them. Yeah, but it's just like everybody is looking
for a win, you know what I'm saying. It's like
a celebrities, you can't even like look at nobody, you
can't even brush up against nobody, like you know what
I'm saying. It's just like everybody got trying to get clout,
everybody trying to make money off of something that like,

(13:40):
and it's just so disgusting on both sides of it.
You know, people with clout take advantage of people with
no cloud, and people no cloud taking people's take advantage
of people who got clout. You know what I'm saying.
That's the society we live here. That's crazy, right, Like
I can't believe that. Like so like me, I just
be like, man, I got old school values and shit,

(14:05):
and I'm just like, man, I'm not trying to take
advantage of nobody. I'm not trying to like change nothing.
I'm not trying to look like and I just I'm
so And then now it makes me so scared and
careful about who I talk to or what I say
in the text or what I do out in public,
it's like, you can't do nothing, Yeah, but you know
because somebody gonna try to take advantage.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
And for me, I believe in karmics that as well.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
I believe that like what I do and what I
put out into the world is what I will receive.
So I'm very careful about the things I do. I
don't believe in taking advantage of people. I don't believe
in lying on people. I don't believe in I always
think that if you do things anything that's the devils,
you have to give it up. Anything that's not for
you and that's not truly yours, you have to give back.

(14:53):
So I only want things that are truly mine and
for me, and anything else can just get.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Up out my way.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (15:01):
So Plies who I love?

Speaker 4 (15:04):
I heard this one?

Speaker 2 (15:05):
So he in in in response to the fact that
you're out here telling women they're cooked over thirty Plies
put out a PSA public says that says forty and
up with a good job where y'all at. He's on
the hunt, and he said, if you forty en up,
that's what he's looking for. He wants that woman because

(15:27):
he feels like she got her shit together. She ain't
about the bullshit. She knows what she wants, she knows
what she's on. He was like, I'm ready to take
care of a woman fortying up?

Speaker 4 (15:36):
What it do?

Speaker 3 (15:38):
So she's got to be just forty years old. That's
his only qualifications. He didn't say that, Diddy. I mean,
he's bro, what's the qualification. It can't just be forty yea, hey,
you ain't slick. You ain't slick. And you know them
forty enoughs they're a little insecure, they desperate.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
You think you slick flies just.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Because they're forty up, the insecure and desperate.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
They're single.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, that's not true. I don't think if they're insecure.
And what if you were married and you gotta no kids? No,
what if they have kids or they've got a divorce.
Just because you're fording up, don't mean you have no kids.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
If you fortying up. Implauza is looking for you. He
knowed the situation, which is what that you're a little
more thirstier than normal you.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yo yo.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Standards almost is out the window, and you god like
a you you ain't got no room to be choosing.
You gotta choose who choose you?

Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's not true. Have you seen Brunice Burgos? The bitch
looks good?

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Who that is?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
She's fine and she was just in Turks and k
coast of her best life. She looks the fuck good.
She's a grandmother and she's fine as hell. And I'm
telling you right now, Bernice don't have no problems with nothing,
with having no man.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
This is her right here. Man, do you see this lady?

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Okay, she got a man.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I don't think she has a man. But do you
see her?

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I'll see her. Okay, where's her man? At? I don't
see she looks good? Okay, where's her man?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
And she's like forty five and she has a grandchild,
a red.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Flag, she's a red flager. She's I mean, everybody think
looks is ain't everything?

Speaker 1 (17:39):
No, it looks are not everything?

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Just because you look cool, let me tell you something,
Just because you look good and everything, just get that
just gets you in the door. Like if you ain't
got no other qualities then looking good then like what
what what value you bringing to me?

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Like it's a gang of good looking girls? Come on now,
Oh she looked good. You just told me. Oh, she'sposed
to look good, all right? What else?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Well, but let me say this, though I couldn't even
paw Paul, let me tell you this of a lot
of men looks as all that it takes baby.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yeah to get in the door. No, what do you
mean to get in the door.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
To have sex with you? Unprotected?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Have your baby on the way, and now you're paying
thirty thousand dollars in child support every month.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
That's all it takes. And these bitches are getting y'all.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
So quickly because y'all are so loose, and y'all decide
to have unprotected sex with anybody moving. You don't need
to know the qualifications. You're not asking them. What do
you bring to the table. You're just doing this shit.
You're getting bitches pregnant and now these women.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Are getting child support.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
She has this nigga with this baby and this baby.
This is what women are doing. They're using these men,
and y'all are not asking all of these men. Drea
has a baby by a twenty one year old that's
the same age jam near as her son.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
And that's crazy to me. And guess what it took
nothing but for her to be looking good.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
She has another baby daddy who's another NFL player or
whatever else she getting checks.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
The other girl who asked.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Bow this this this future bow wow, the other nigga, Like,
all these women have all these men's babies, and they're
getting childs for off of these men and living a
flavish life. So don't tell me about qualifications, because it's
not taking a lot of qualifications for men to do
this with these women.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
So what you're telling about her.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Now, I'm saying, it's the same thing.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Does she miss the boat?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
What you mean to have the baby by? I don't
think she did because rays DM near forty and she
just had a baby.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
By the she's rolly around the same age Asdre has.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
She missed the boat. She don't got a twenty one
year old getting checks. She ain't got a twenty like
who she got right now?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
We don't know she probably, I can't. Do you think
she works a job? She getting checks from somebody. She
don't work, no regular jobs. She don't have nothing.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
She lives in the hou.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
We know. But she's been doing it. That's all I'm saying. Listen,
I get what you're saying. Because you're a different type
of man, and once you what you want and once
you look for despite what anyone wants saying. And I
know you actually care about connection and quality and you
care about that with a woman, and it's not just
about looks. And I know that about you, and I
love that about you. But I'm telling you that a
lot of these men are just falling for the okie dope, period,

(20:23):
point blank. And all it takes is for a bitch
to look good, period.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
And all it takes is for a bitch and one
loose night.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
And now I'm connected with to you for eighteen plus
years and you're paying me every month.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
And these bitches are forty plus.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
You're a trifling and I'm gonna keep it real though.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm gonna keep it real though a lot of these
womens that are getting knocked up now by these retired
and these current are forty plus. They're not young, they're
forty plus. The young ones is not even trying to
do that with these niggas. It's the older ones that's
because they're washed up. They came here to get a
career that couldn't make it. Their tried So the next
best thing I can do is I'm a fine one

(21:11):
of these loose man who I'm cute enough to get
into the bedroom with, and now they're gonna pay me
every motherfucking month. Tell me I'm wrong, because that's exactly
what's happening, and they make a career out of it.
And you've said it yourself, so all it takes is
for them to look good, because I can name thirty
women right now that bring nothing to the table and
just look good and they have that situation for themselves
and never have to work again.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
I remember a couple of years ago I was out
with I was out with a couple of guys, a
couple of girls, and it was a girl that was
sitting there. It was boring for hookah, and she said,
I'm looking for a baby daddy situation.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I'm screaming. At least she was honest, because that's what
they're looking for.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
She just set it right off the blue, and I
was looking at her like, damn, Like she just came
on and said I'm looking for her. I ain't gotta
be with them.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
No, that's what they want. You don't like that, Yeah, But.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
It was just like it's crazy that she said it,
that you said, that's the game right now. A baby
daddy situation is good for these women, especially women who
are hit their forties and now they don't got She cracked, like,
I'm plus forty.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Okay, yeah, you don't like that comms.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
What I'm saying, this is the current events.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Okay, Okay, So.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
It's both, it's a little bit of both. That's fine,
that's fine. That's really all that I have. The only
last thing that I was gonna talk about is French Montana.
He's dating the Princess of Dubai. She's cracking. He's publicly
out with her. They're like official couple online everything. So
he said, yeah, I'm out of here. I'm out the
country Princess of Dubai.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
She looks like, how does she become the princess?

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I have no idea. She obviously is.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
The daughter of a queen. Yeah jeez.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
So he's out about her living their best lives. She's
like this blonde situation. She's like, she's appreciation nights.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Now. Man, I'm telling out the country us black men.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
I'm telling y'all we need to follow in French Montana steps.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
You see, he cracking he's cracking, like, Man, I'm out
here with.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
These don't listen to Paul. There's women in the States
that are cool and a vibe.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Women the States women, they don't have the same values
as these women overseas. They value they man, they priorities,
They man first. They're not shaking thats on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
And not every woman is doing that, Paul.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
That's American women. That's the majority.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
No, not every woman is doing that though I'm not
doing that.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
So it's more women in America doing that than out.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
The country, I can agree.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
But they're out the country women are getting paid twenty
five dollars to have sex with anybody Columbia, go there, Brazil.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
So please kill it because.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Y'all because I know and y'all want to glorify these
out the country women.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
These out the country women.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
You give them thirty dollars and they're sucking you and
all your homeboys dicks in one night. So stop trying
to glorify that of it.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Anyways.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah, I mean, only difference between there and here is
the prices up over here.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, don't try to say their values are so different
than I shake outs.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
No, they are. They're doing it and they're getting shitted on,
shaking ass and all types of stuff. Yeah, so don't try.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
It, man.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
I ain't trying nothing, But I'm just saying, like, right now,
if you ain't taking a girl shopping, if you ain't
got no bread like this, I'm almost impossible to get
a girl out here if you ain't doing that. Like
you go overseas, you can get a broke nigga. Right,
go over sea. You got a couple of hundred. I
don't ain't gonna feel appreciated, man. So it's a difference.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
You know. You know what I'm saying is.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
I do know what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
But I will say, like I don't like the whole
values thing, and I think that I have to stop.
I think for me, it's like it's a personal thing
because it's like, I know I'm not like that, and
I have friends that I know are really not like that.
So I surround myself with women who are who are like,
really have morals, have values, have all the things that
really like are amazing, bring a lot to the table.

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So it's like, yeah, I may be a little biased
in the sense of that, but I do understand the majority.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Of women out here are trash.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
I can fuck with that, and I can feel you,
and I feel like because of that, men are also trash.
I feel like it's a bunch of trash just swimming around,
and I feel like we just have to reset and
clean it up.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
So like, based on like.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
American women, values for us as American people, values as
a black man here, why would I want to pursue
American woman who thinks that if I'm not on the
internet shaking ass or showing my body off, that I'm
not cracking Because that's what the majority think, and that's

(25:49):
what the majority do to just feel appreciated. Like, how
do I even have a relationship when I'm dating a
girl and on the internet.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
I don't think turning around doing all this.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
But then the days she get mad at me when
every day somebody they flood in her comments complimenting her like,
oh you look so good, bebby, Like, how do I
compete with that in a relationship When you're getting all
these compliments on the day, how do I compete? You
know what, I give you enough compliments throughout the day
that's gonna compete for what you're gonna get on the internet.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
But you want to know what it is.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Let me tell you something, Women need to really get
into reality check because all those compliments are a false
sense of reality. None of that is quality. None of
those men are serious. None of those men are going
to take you serious. And I feel like women they
get men in their dms, they get these comments and
they get this inflated ego when in reality you to

(26:47):
come back down to earth because half of y'all don't
look how y'all look on the internet. Number one, you
don't look like that the life women, the women, you
don't look how you look on the internet. Bro, you
don't when I see you in real life. You look
like a different person. You put way too much face
app on, bro. And at the end of the day,
when you get all those compliments online, understand that don't
amount to shit. Half of those men are not going

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to ever take you serious. The other half of those
men is not even real. They probably fucking bots. And
the little bit of celebrities that you have in your
dms are probably not really gonna ever take you serious, sweetheart,
because a real man with integrity, morals, who really wants
to have a family is not gonna take a woman
that's shaking ass on the internet. Serious, because if I
was a man, I would have automatically sexualized you and

(27:29):
I would just want to fuck period point play.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Why are women getting offended when men sexualize women who
do that when they shouldn't when men are coming here like, damn,
I gave you, I got you some dinner.

Speaker 4 (27:43):
What's up? Because so this But that's but that's where
we at.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
But this is two things I want to say. Two things.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Women have to stop getting offended when they promote themselves
as a prostitute.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
And then when a man wants to have sex with
you after he bought you dinner.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
No, listen, then you're upset, and men have to get
We have to stop getting mad when they promote themselves
as a trick and then the woman is expecting money
from you. There's two things that we are doing in
this generation that is completely fucked up. You're literally sexualizing
yourself online. You meet a man and then you're mad
that he wants to have sex with you. And then
a man is leading with his wallet and oh, I'm

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this something that he's online.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Roy's royce lahlahlah?

Speaker 4 (28:21):
What was that?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Baby? I'm gonna take you care.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Just because I'm leading of that. I'm not leading as
a trick, like just because I have some nice things.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
No, not in that way, not in that way.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Been showing money all the time, doing all that.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
What I'm saying is that if you're online, have you
been online showing stacks of money and all this.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
No, that's some corny shit. But men are doing that.
I'm not talking about you and just someone.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Who require that. Is that showing you a trick?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
You're acting as one.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
If you showing that, you might. But no, you know,
I get you. I get what you're saying. So it's
guys out here that might have a stack, but that's
all they got.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, and they look stupid anyone.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
But then it ain't really what they saying it is
and they doing that to get the girl, and get
the girl.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
And then the girls she's a gold dig girl, Oh
my god.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
But like they tricking the girls, just like the girls
is tricking the guys. Look, I'm sure you awe this money,
but I realized I got it like this, and the.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Girls like what they see and women like what they hear.
That's why women wear makeup and men lie period. So
at the end of the day, men like what they see,
and women like what they hear. That's why women wear
makeup and men lie, period, point blank.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
So we're living in.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
A reality where people are just going online and they're
creating this persona and then it's not equating.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
To what it really is in real life. And it's like,
I've been in.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Relationships before where it could be whoever that's dming me,
I don't care the most popping man in the world,
which has literally happened, and I will be like, I'm
not saying he's the most proba. I'm saying like people
who are in society where other girls would be like,
oh my god, for me, I would never I'm like,
why would I ever ruin something that's solid, that's great,

(30:09):
that I have a connection with over this motherfucker that's
never gonna even be on nothing for real, Like, I
would never do that. And I feel like women don't
operate from that space. They're just so freaking thirsty for attention.
And Internet has created that. Internet has created that this
high that you get from the likes and the comments
and all this attention that you forget that don't even matter.

(30:31):
You take that all away, y'all, bitches is sick because
you don't have your own value within yourself.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
You don't understand who you are.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
You don't have worth without having validation from other people.
No one can tell me I'm beautiful, and I will
still look in the mirror and be like, damn, okay,
you're a beautiful woman. You look good, you feel good.
I don't have to have none of that because I've
done the work internally to feel that way about myself,
to know that I'm worthy. And it's not even about
my looks, my vibe, my or and why I feel

(30:59):
like I'm beautiful. It's because of my personality. It's because
of how genuine I am.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Because you got to keep telling yourself that at this stage,
because because you.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Got to convince yourself that.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
This is crazy.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
So it's just like this. It's just like an NBA player.
Think about this, when you start getting up in their
age and you're not that good anymore, but you got
to go to the gym, make some shots, convince you
still good.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
No, I don't have to convince myself that I'm beautiful, baby,
because I'm the one, never the two.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
But you need to retire.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
I don't need to do that. You got me so funny.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
You can't make a shot.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
That's why everybody be in my DMS. Like, baby, you're
not cooked. Let me take you to your I will
never call you cooked.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
You got that.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Because listen, they trying to take advantage.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Of a of a cooked woman.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Man, you know what I'm saying. They trying to take a.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Ain't nothing to take advantage of over here. Baby, It's
like it's.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Just like when you see that wounded duck and then
here come the crocodile.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
You know you're not going to disrespected.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Disrespect I'm talking about You're not going to keep disrespectful
after dark?

Speaker 4 (32:16):
What did I say the last time?

Speaker 1 (32:17):
You're not going to keep the other day.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
I'm just saying, you gotta just be in the reality
of it. Like you're a good looking woman.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I have to be the reality of what.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
But like you know, you're a good looking woman and
everything and what Paul, well know what we were talking about.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
We were talking about like you're convincing yourself, right, but
like are men telling you?

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yes, I can't even walk up the house all right?

Speaker 4 (32:49):
So like why do you have to convince yourself when you.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
It's not convincing. I never said you are bringing this
word convincing.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I don't have to convince.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Myself, like men are telling you every day how good
you look.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
You think that I give a fuck about what a
man is telling me every day.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
But that don't feel good after a while.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
No, because men will tell anybody they look good, So
I don't feel the value of a man.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Why will you sit there and look at comments all day?

Speaker 1 (33:16):
I don't look at comments.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
You projected something on me. I don't look at comments
all day. I don't ever do that. I don't even
look at comments rarely. The only time I look at comments. Yeah,
the only time I look at comments is on YouTube
to get positive feedback. I don't be looking at what
they're talking about me physically or looks I talk about.
Look at our clips and our content here and there

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to see what the reaction of the public is.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
I'm not lying.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
That's crazy. You knew you you have some funny thoughtship tonight.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
That's cool, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
I thought we was friends, but we ain't friends after
this the truth after dark, I quit because he got
in the morning.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
In the morningfall because really, and and you like.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Looking at the comments like he said this about me?

Speaker 2 (34:06):
No, I do that rarely and I don't be on
it like that, and at the end of the day,
there no and people say a lot of mean things
about me all the time, like I don't care, including you.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
So you're my biggest hater.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
I'm the biggest fan.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I can't tell because you.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
About you.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
You just said that I had to convince myself that
I was beautiful of the beer, and that you compare
me to a wounded duck. I didn't say, I promise
this show is over, y'all, I'm cool on pod because.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
He had me. He compared me to a wounded duck
in the water, coming like, what the hell? This is crazy?

Speaker 4 (34:47):
You're not going to keep this from This is not
disrespect you.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
I'm talking about the women out there. That was not
directly towards you.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
You said towards me. You said, listen, you have to
convince yourself.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
I'm saying, I'm speaking as how you're speaking as a
whole women. I'm speaking as a whole to women too.
This is not directed at you. This is directed at
our conversation going out to the fans, like, hey, you
know when you this is what happens.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
This is not directed at you, though stop looking at
it like that we're having a conversation.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Don't start with me tonight.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
We're having a conversation for real. This is not directed
at you. I don't think you're.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
The disrespect is so crazy.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
So that's it.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
As far as anything current events, I thought it was
on truth the Dark.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
We are on truth.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Theftter dark now because we kind of segued into this.
So what I want to talk about is this doctor
Seanne Brian and she came on our show and one
of the clips that she put out or we put
out there of her was her talking about the fact
that she feels like a woman who gets into a
relationship with a man who already has children, whether that's one, two, three,

(36:07):
four or five baby moms is participating in a put
Because it's polygamous and polyamory, they're two different things. So
polygamous means you're married, and polyamory means that you guys
are just in a consensual romantic relationship with other people,

(36:29):
like multiple people. So that's like if you and I
were together. Polyamory relationship is if you and I were
together and we both were like, we want to part
take with different people and we want to bring them
into our family or bring them into our unit, and
we're gonna do romantic, sexual whatever different things. It doesn't
necessarily have to be sexual, but they're part of our

(36:51):
group of dynamic. So she's basically trying to say that
she would never date a man with children because she
doesn't want to be in that type of a polity relationship.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
But does that.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Make it that when you have when you're dating somebody
with kids, I will say, necessarily make it that.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Well I see, okay, so but listen.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
She said.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
She wanted her own family because she said when a
man has kids, he gets the tension in the relationship.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Like like what was that?

Speaker 3 (37:28):
It was like she said, I have to deal with
another relationship that he has with his kids.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, not just with his kids. He has to do
you have to deal with the mother of those children.
You do, and you have to deal with the fact
that your man is not always going to be available
to you and you're going to have to be like, oh, oh,
I have my kids and all I.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Have to God be available to you.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Because that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Some people, you she don't understand that part.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Then, okay, So like like like a man can always
be available to you, Like he can introduce you to
his kids. When the kids is over, you can pull
up as a matter of fact, why we can't lay together,
Oh we lay together.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
Oh they can come over.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Right, But not even just the kids though, I think
that she was talking more about the mother of the.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Children and that ain't got to get involved in none
of this, because I know a lot of relationships to
where the man they'll meet the wife to the pickup
point and that's it, or I'll go pick him up, right.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
But then there's a lot of relationships where the man
is always the woman is always texting and calling and FaceTime.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
A lot of So maybe that so maybe that's.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
What she means to update me, you can update me.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah, But there's also like so for instance, I will
say this like I was in my ex had a daughter,
and I will say this, and I will commend him
as a man the way he handled that baby Mama
situation and made me so comfortable that baby Mama is
only a pick up a drop off of this. It's
very separate, right, And it was like I never felt anything.

(39:04):
I never felt like he was she was calling him
on somewhere. I just didn't have that. My intuition never
sparked with that, and I felt so comfortable in that
situation to where I was like, I knew the daughter,
I was the first woman to ever meet his daughter.
I love the daughter, and I felt like the situation
made me be uncomfortable. But I've also been in situations
where I felt like, hmm, this is crossing a line.

(39:26):
The boundaries are not set. Why is this person doing
this or calling you at these late hours, or why
are you still having this or does this person still
have feeling? Its like, there's those situations, and those situations
can be extremely difficult because I've seen both. I understand
when there's really nothing going on and it's really super
clear and a man has really made it like hey, nah,

(39:48):
like these.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Are my boundaries, this is what it is.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I see the difference in that type of situation versus
a situation where you can tell like, uh, I don't
really know that the boundaries are set here. I don't
really know that she respects you. I don't really know
if she would respect a relationship that you have.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
And I feel like a lot.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Of women have dealt with a lot of contention in
those type of relationships That's why I think a lot
of people resonated with what she said. So I think
that if men were better at controlling the situation, because
I know a lot of women who are like, well,
you know, like my man feels like you know, he's
they're going places and the baby mama's coming with them,

(40:30):
and it's awkward for the person because they're like what
and they don't know if they're fucking around.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
And I feel like I know a lot of.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Women who's caught their men sleeping with the baby mom
and the baby mom is calling.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
It's like drama.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
I just feel like.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
This if you as a man, like if you hanging out,
what's your baby mama in that situation?

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Like why y'all not together?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Because some men feel like, okay, they don't want to
be with her and they know that's not going to work,
but they love to have sex with her. I know
a lot of men who just sleep with the baby
mama because they know it's accessible and they know, like,
I like her, we have good sex. I'll have sex
with her when I can. I know men who do that, like, honestly,
I do. I know a lot of men who have
that relationship with their baby mom, and it's cool if

(41:15):
they're single, but it also creates a very weird dynamic
because it's like, if you're messing around and still having
sex or doing this, like the women most likely still have.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
No I'm saying men have done that when they're not
both single.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
But if you're both single and you're doing that, it
also creates I feel like a space for like confusion too,
because I feel like most women, if they're still having
sex with you, there's some type of feeling. And I
also feel like, as a woman, don't you wish you
had a family Like me if I was a baby mom,
Like sometimes it would be like damn, Like I wish
we could work this out. I wish we could be

(41:51):
a family, Like I would think I would low key
be like damn, like can we still be Like yeah,
I feel like a woman would be like damn, Like
what woman in the world wants to have a kid
with a man and not be with them?

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Like, well, we just had that whole situation.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
But I'm saying like, as far as like if you
had a relationship, I'm not talking about what we were
just talking about. I'm saying, if I had a relationship
with a man, and we had a kid and we
didn't work out. Like there's a little part of me
that wishes, damn, like I want to have a family.
I don't want to have a broken family. But I
haven't so I don't know. I don't know, But I
do have best friends that are single mothers, and I do.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Know the situations.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
You know, I'm around women a lot, and I'm around
women that tell me their thought stuff.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
You don't have enough sample size to know.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Okay, I can't respect that.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
I know a lot that want to still be with them.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, well, but.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Most likely they broke up with him, right, So as
a man, ego, how you break up on me? And
then now you see what it is and you and
did all of this as a man?

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Like what if the man was doing shit?

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Listen, man, ain't going for that. You broke on me, right,
because that's what the statistics say. Women usually break it
with the man.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
But broken up with it does matter?

Speaker 4 (43:17):
Paul, All all right, whatever what he was doing. Now
you want me back? All right?

Speaker 3 (43:22):
I still I did all this, but you want me
back now? Like you feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
You want me back so bad though, because I feel like,
don't just wa back like that.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I want you back because I felt like because you.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Went saw was out there and this is what women do.
This is this is one like you get with your
husband who probably messed around, right and it happens, you know,
or the woman messed around. Let's say the husband messed around.
Now y'all divorced then, and now that you single, you

(44:02):
gonna mess with another dude who won't commit to you?
Who doing all that other shit that you could have
still been doing with your husband and you stial with him?
Make it make sense? Do it makes sense? That don't

(44:24):
make sense?

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Right? Right?

Speaker 3 (44:26):
But now you gonna go a head with him? Be
you sex with him down but he ain't committing to you. Well,
you got a dude who committed to you, got a
whole house, kids and everything, but you want to deal
with his ship. Make it make sense? Now you want
him back? Does it make sense what I'm saying now?

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Saying?

Speaker 4 (44:47):
Now? So now who?

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Who?

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Who?

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Why would I want to get back with you? Right?

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Why would I want to get back with you? We
could have worked this out, but you want to go
This is what you really wanted. You wanted to do that,
but I was the one that was willing to deal
with you and hopefully you could deal with me, because like,
maybe I did mess up, but I wasn't leaving you.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
You left me.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
But now you get into a situation to where you
dealing with that with another nigga that don't commit to you.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Make that make sense?

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Well, I would say that sometimes.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Uh, so you don't want to hear what I have
to say.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
You ain't got nothing to say. I don't think I
think I inquieted a lot of that damn shit down.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
No, I would say, like, obviously I don't have kids
and I'm not married.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
And but you understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
I get what you're saying, and I feel like you
know sometimes though, there's certain relationships that have too much
shit that happened, and it's hard to bounce back fro him.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
To deal with him. Now now you now you you
somebody work. Now you just gonna be somebody work. He
ain't committing to you, but you having sex with him,
and he got he got other he got other girls,
and he's telling you, but you're gonna deal with them?

Speaker 4 (46:10):
Make it make sense?

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Make that makes sense because you know that's exactly what
goes on.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
I don't know what goes on.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Oh so you know these other situations, but you don't
know the situation that I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
You don't have girls.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
That's a situation saying yes I do.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
I thought, so you do have girls in that situation,
A lot of them, probably not a lot, man, there's a.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Lot of girls in that situation.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Now you're feeling like an idiot because now you want
to come back to him because he wasn't gonna leave you,
even though he whatever, he he messed up, but he
wasn't never gonna leave you.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
Yeah, it's getting, it's getting.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
It's not it's not cricket.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
You think that because a man and some ship. You
think that because a man is never going to leave you,
that that's the best thing that a woman can have.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
Going, all right, we'll deal with that.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
And some people rather deal with that than deal with
a man who was no because nobody.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
Wants dealt with that.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
To the nigga that was gonna take care of you
the rest of your life and your kids.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I mean, I will hope people still take care of
his children, and he probably still take care of her.
But I bet you that you're still taking I bet
you that the man is still taking care of the
woman still because child support.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
So the woman is still.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Taking care of and she gets to go mess with
whoever she wants and maybe support too. Huh.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
A lot of guys ain't paying support too.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Right, But I'm saying that there's a lot that are,
and so they.

Speaker 4 (47:42):
Are still argument of the situation I'm talking about, because
none of that.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Argument I gonakeep it. I don't have an argument.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
It's a subject. It don't matter.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
You ain't been in none of the situations we talked
about that you had an answer for it. You ain't
got to answer for this though.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
I don't have answer for a lot of things.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Yeah, you can.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
I don't think I'm right. I don't think I've answered
for everything, Paul, I don't know a lot.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
You don't have to.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
You've seen a lot, and you've heard a lot, and
you've been around a lot. Yes, just like you said,
I got homegirls, you got homegirls like this too.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
What's the answer?

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah, I just said that. I said that. I have
seen that before, for sure. I've also seen men who
get with women and they break up.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
They get broken up with because they were doing dog shit,
and then they go out and they see all the
options and they're like, Damn, I miss what I really have.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Every man I've ever been with, you can mark my
words on this thing wants to still be with me.
Every single man they have to be. I broke up
with them, but they were cheating and doing dog shit,
like I said, and they still want to be with me.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
That's normal.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
You just said it wasn't normal, Paul.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
What I said was the girl breaks up, messes around
with another dude, gonna treat you like some work, won't
commit to you.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
I get what you were saying, but I had a
different scenario. You keep bringing that back.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
If you had a commitment and he fucked up, but
he wasn't never gonna leave you, and he was gonna
take care of you, and he was gonna be by
your dying bed and all that where him. If something
happened to you, he ghosts, But him, regardless of what
y'all been through, he gonna be right there in your
sick bed, by your side, make you some soup, bring
you some whatever you need. He was still gonna do that,

(49:36):
regardless of whatever he did wrong. He was gonna be
right there. But when you get sick with him. Man,
go on, he taking someone else to Vegas like, oh,
she said she he did. Wait, let me go over here.
Let's keep it real. But regardless, he was gonna steal
boom boom. You know, yeah, I'm bad boom man, I
got you. Let me chuck you win boom.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
See I listen, I want tonight, I.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
Said no, No, I said so real tonight.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
I definitely want to. That's gonna hit hard being and
women gonna feel this one. Feel what I'm saying on
this one. Make it make sense, females, make that make
sense what I'm talking about tonight, because you ain't got
no comeback for this one. The comment's gonna be low.
There ain't gonna be a lot of girls talking about this.
Is gonna be all the niggas.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
You right, like you.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
At the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Though, all I'm saying is sometimes women don't want to
just stick by man inside. That's just like, yeah, there's
women who don't want that. So that's all I'm saying.
I don't know because I've never been in this situation,
so I can't speak on it.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
I don't know. So cool, You're right, you got it?
You want would you like me.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Man you ever been with that you want to be
back with?

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Never fuck no every man, oh baby, Because let me
tell you why. My grandma taught me always to leave anywhere,
even if the person is foul smelling like roses. I
have always and I believe in karmic debt. And this
is why I say that every relationship I've ever been
with in I put my best foot forward. I've always

(51:26):
been loving, I've always been giving. I've always went the
extra mile. And I promise you any X I have,
can I promise you they're not gonna say otherwise. I
can really stand on that. I am a very loving,
giving woman, period. I don't I'm not a taker. I'm
very mindful. I'm very like want the best for this
man so much that I'm like willing to do everything,

(51:47):
and I will not leave you. It will take me
so much, like you have to really beat me down,
so a man that beats me to my lowest point
and I'm just like so sad and I'm just so
damn bad and everyone can see it. It's like that
I walk away because I'm like, I just can't live
like this anymore. And when I walk away, I'm happier
because I feel good and that man feels horrible and

(52:07):
his life starts going down the fucking drain because he
realizes everything that I did for him, everything that I
put into him.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
I will say this about you.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
You have grown a lot as a person, and like
I haven't been knowing you that long, but like before
we got together as a podcast, I watched a lot
of like if their like other stuff, yeah, and seeing
how you talked and seeing how you came across You've

(52:39):
grown a lot, and this is refreshing hearing how you've
come a long way as a grown woman. And by
the way, your hair looks amazing, by the way, I
know you just got it all done. I forgot the
compliments at the beginning.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
It's waterproof here.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
I wasn't even about to say that it's my natural heir.
I decided, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
I have to seeing this style yet, but it looks
amazing and everything. But I just wanted to tell you
that as thank you. I appreciated that short in this space,
like your conversation and your attitude towards everything, because it's
come it's become refreshing because like I've seen stuff before

(53:24):
I had a chance to meet you that.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Was like, oh damn.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
But I want to say this though, because some people
come and they're like, oh, I seen your clips. We're
so different now and you change and you obviously we checked, right.
But the thing is is like a lot of that
is not true though, because a lot of those clips
were like click bait, and it was like someone trying
to raige bait me into saying certain stuff.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
It's like, how me and you had this conversation.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
I was heated about certain things and I was passionate, right,
But I'm not mad at you. I'm not yelling at you.
It's just you know how I am and you know
how you're No. But listen to what I'm saying. I
can contribute a lot of the what and I genuinely
mean this. I can contribute a lot of how I
interact on this podcast with you versus my other one.
Because of you, and because you, although you be coming

(54:11):
at me crazy, you're still very respectful towards me, and
I still feel like it's a really safe space to
be who I am as a woman, and I feel
like I can flourish. I feel like in other spaces
you don't always feel that way and your energy is
suppressed or people are trying to compete with your energy
and they're trying to like dim your light in a way,

(54:31):
and then it puts you in a bad spot. And
I feel like in this space, I don't have that issue.
And so for me, it's like I've always been extremely mature.
I'm not going to say I haven't grown, because of
course I'm always growing and evolving, but I feel like
there's this perception of like I was so angry, I
was all these things, and it's like that's not true. Actually,

(54:51):
Like I just always have had a very strong opinion
as a woman. And there's a lot of things where
a man can sit here and say, man told me
on a podcast. Oh another and this is a man
with a daughter. Another man decides your worth as a woman,
and it's like, how do you have a daughter? And

(55:12):
if a man breaks up with her, she's not shit Now,
she's not worthy. Like I think about young girls. I
have nieces. I look at these young girls and I
do this because of that. I started this because of
that because when I was young, I didn't have someone
that I could look up to that looked like me,
that talk like me that was unique.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
In the way that I was.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
And these young women, they look at these women on
the internet and they see these women who are with
these designer packs and they are doing these trips and
they're doing all these things, and they're like, I need
to be like that. I need to have this body
that's like this, I need to be this way, or
I'm not worthy, I'm not enough, no man will love me.
And I feel so sad for those young girls. It
makes me tear up, seriously, like I'm gonna cry because

(55:54):
I have a niece and I have like little women
who look up to that and they're like, this is
what I want to be. And I want them to
know you don't have to be that, Like you are
beautiful in your own right. And I can't sit on
these podcasts and just be like, you're not this, You're
not that, You're not going to be this, because that's
not fair to these young women to see that.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Like you have daughters.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
I want young women to know you can be beautiful
if you don't look like this person Bernice Burgos or
this person or this person on the internet and Sweetie
and Ice Spice and all these women because you don't
know what they're doing to get where they're going. You
don't know what they had to do. They had to
do some stuff that you are way better than. You
don't deserve that lifestyle. You deserve something more than that.

(56:34):
So that's what I'm saying. That has always been my
goal on my message doing podcasts and sometimes like we
have fun and we do other things, but like when
I remember why I did this, it was because of that,
Like I want young women to know like you can
be Like I'm not perfect, I don't look perfect.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I used to be three hundred fucking pounds.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Like I want them to know, like you don't have
to be that, you could be you and you're worthy.
And that's why when like men say crazy stuff in
these podcasts, man that be talking crazy, It's like, no,
I'm gonna come and I'm gonna check you because you
could call me all these things. I'm angry, I'm this,
I'm not. No, I'm defending young women so they can
know you're not You're not a man. Breaking up what

(57:12):
you're telling you you not enough is not me nothing. Baby,
you got it?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
You worthy? You beautiful? Period.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
Yeah that's good. No, that's a great message man.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Like that's real.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
No, that was real. That's that's real message.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
I feel like people need to hear. And I'm glad
you was able to express that. You know, you've had
an amazing journey to where you've been in a position
to where you've lost I don't want to say your confidence,
but you've been at you was in a place.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Yeah, I did lose my confidence.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
I don't want to use that word. I did, though, Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Just like you just lost Maybe it is your confidence.
We go through that even like like life is a game,
when they say life is a game, like you could
be a great player, but you can still lose your
confidence and you can have your EBB and flow your
confidence back. You on top of the world, no matter
when nobody say about you. Man, and like me, I've

(58:15):
been one of the most scrutinized players, like and when
I play and even after the play some of the
stuff I play, But they don't know what my true
strength was, my truth, My my best strength was my confidence.
Nobody nothing can tell me. And when you gain that,
and you you just start developing teflon skin to no
matter what people say about you, it don't even bother.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
You don't even move you.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
That's when you're gonna be able to advance in anything
you're trying to do. And that's the message I want
to put out. Like people say, oh you delusional, people
are gonna say, oh you you you're.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
Not this, You're not that. Look where it got me
being delusion exactly.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Like it got me some places I never thought as
a kid coming out of Inglewood to be able to
travel the world like from being delusion though, because I
didn't believe what people said. Because I didn't believe like
anything you said, I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Do exactly that's what you have to do.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
And so I'll never I'll never like trust or.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Even indulged myself in negative self talk, not even self
outer talk like I laugh at like, oh Pierce, you're
all right whatever. Yeah, ninety nine point nine percent of
you cats wish y'all had my life, you saying and you.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Talking like this, that's a fact.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
That's a fine.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
It is what it is. And man, we got all
the way off. Who you talking about?

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I don't know how we got off, but honestly, we
said at It was a genuine conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
We got into some shit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
But it's okay because honestly, I feel like, you know,
we said a lot on this episode. I think we
can graft this episode up in a minute. It's been
a good episode. I went all the way off. We
were all over the place, but you know what I mean,
it was really genuine and it was real. And I
feel like, you know, be de Lulu, be delusion. All
believe in yourself. Like and anytime someone comes to me

(01:00:27):
and they're like, I'm gonna do this and it sounds outrageous,
I'm like, yeah, okay, I'll fuck with it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
I believe you, like you could do that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Like my little niece, she's like, I'm gonna be an
NBA player, Auntie, and she kills it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Okay, she's on that thing. And I was like, okay, girl,
do your big one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Because I believe in you. You know what I'm saying.
But the most important thing is that you believe in yourself.
And there are times where you can get low on confidence.
There are times where I've been insecure, I've been feeling
bad about myself. I haven't been feeling good. But you
are the only person that could make the change. Nobody
else is gonna call you and be like, get up.
It's time for you to do this. Every day it's

(01:01:02):
only you, and every time you break your own trust
it hurts you. So every time you tell yourself you're
going to the gym and you don't do what, you're
breaking your trust. Every time you tell yourself you're gonna
do something and you don't, it's breaking your trust and
that breaks down your confidence.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
I do want to say this before we you know ended,
like for all you women and all you men and relationships, No, seriously,
because that's what this is about. You know, we all
tend to think that the grass is greener on the
other side. We all tend to think that, you know,

(01:01:38):
when one side fuck up, that we can do better. Yeah,
and then when and that was the message earlier when
like things ain't going right, you quit. Man, Like, if
you want something to be great, and it don't matter
if it's in your job, it's in a relationship or
your sport, everything ain't gonna always go great. It's gonna

(01:02:01):
go greatest the persistence you put in that to push
it into and to just be like, man, I can
get through the dark times, I can get through the rain,
I can get through the thunder because that's anything you
do in life relationship, it's gonna be thunderstorms. It's gonna

(01:02:22):
be cloudy days when you can't deal with that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
That ain't gonna last. That's not gonna be authentic.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
And the ones that last is can get through those
days where man, he liked another girl picture.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Oh, but like if you don't hang it up, that's
not that deep.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
Like we all go through and we all make mistakes.
It's how you get your mistakes and how you get
through the dark times that's gonna really show, oh, who
you are as a person. That's gonna really show who
you are and the greatness of a relationship, the greatness

(01:03:08):
of what you want to accomplish.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
Yeah, and I always remember, like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
You always stronger with your team, regardless of what you
go through than an individual. And like you see these
five fingers, like, man, you hit the finger right, it's
gonna move right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Yes, it's gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Like you like these individual fingers, you hit them. But
when I bring them together, look what it form. It's strong.
It's strong, exactly, you know what I'm saying. And now
so we gotta realize.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Do you know about the eighty twenty No, tell me
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
So eighty twenty is like, I'm in a relationship with you, right,
eighty percent of everything. Like, let's say we're together, eighty
percent of everything will be it's cool, right, but I'm
missing this one thing. Right, Let's say I'm missing the
fact that you like compliment.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Me or something all the time. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I don't really get compliments. So then I meet a
man and he's giving me every compliment.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
I'm eating it up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
So I'm like, I'm about to leave this eighty percent
of a man for this twenty percent.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Of what I'm not getting. And then you fucked.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Because you're like, oh, wow, he's only twenty percent. He's
only telling me I look good every day. He ain't
got nothing else this other motherfucker had. So that's the
eighty twenty rule. People do that a lot in relationships.
There's that twenty percent that they feel like their partner
is not doing and they start to get it from
someone else and they're like, oh, this feels good, this
is what I want, But they don't realize they lack

(01:04:38):
all other eighty percent of what they're missing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
So that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
It's like, you can't get caught up with that eighty
twenty because you don't want that twenty percent over there,
you want this eighty over here. But you you just
lacking that right now, so you're thirsty.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Wow, that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
That's a popular thing though, It's not like I made
that up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
But yeah, well this episode is spicy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
This fight gotta go on Patreon.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
We got some Patreon stuff coming behind the scenes, especially
in the next week or so. Make sure you join.
It's gonna be some good behind the scenes of just
like yeah, like I said, behind the scenes type of
stuff you can catch up on like bizarre her daily life,
myself and the things we do. Get to know us
a little better than what you normally do from the show,

(01:05:25):
and I think that's gonna be some really interesting things.

Speaker 4 (01:05:28):
So man, thanks for joining us today. This was like
great and we got.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Some special guests coming in the next couple of weeks,
so make sure you tune in. This one's gonna be
real spicy coming up. So we ain't gonna introduce you yet,
but like you can join early to see on Patreon
to see the early.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
Access to access to it also, so make sure you join.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
All right, thank you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
This is the taking over the game, all right, Everybody
Welcome to truth after Dark.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
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