March 5, 2024 • 36 mins
Embark on a transformative journey through the realms of holistic health as we unlock the secrets to a balanced life with the guidance of Dr. Cari Jacobson from Be Optimal Health and Wellness. This episode peels back the layers of structural, biochemical, and emotional wellness, scrutinizing how they intertwine to shape our health. With Dr. Cari's deep dive into applied kinesiology and muscle testing, you'll understand why these practices are more than just fringe science—they're crucial tools for pinpointing and addressing the incongruences that affect our well-being.
Strap in for an enthralling exploration of Quantum Neurology and the emotional healing arts. You won't want to miss the compelling stories demonstrating the power of Neuromotional Technique, Lifeline Technique, and Quantum Neuro Reset Therapy, especially in the aftermath of COVID-19. These stories are more than just triumphs of health; they're testaments to the potential for recovery that lies in the harmony of our body's systems, as poetic yet precise as an orchestra in perfect tune.
To cap off our session, we unravel the intricacies of maintaining holistic health over time, revealing the specialized approaches needed for various cases, including those at the end of life. We highlight the importance of a tailored maintenance routine, the necessity of a strong health 'army,' and the vital role of functional medicine when traditional paths prove insufficient. Our conversation isn't just about managing symptoms; it's a rallying cry for addressing the root causes and crafting a vibrant, resilient life with the support—but not the crutch—of supplements. Join us for this enlightening episode, rich with insights and strategies to empower your health journey.
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Renee (00:07):
Welcome everybody to the Tummy Whisperer podcast.
I'm your host, renee Barish.
I am very excited today becauseI've gotten a very special
guest on.
I have Dr Cari Jacobson on fromBe Optimal Health and Wellness
and we're here together to talkto you guys today about what it
would look like to maybe take alittle step forward with your
health.
(00:29):
And I know this is a time ofyear where so many people are
thinking about what can they doto feel better, people already
feeling like shit from theholidays anyway, and they're
like, okay, I'm going to startJanuary 2nd, right or 1st or
whatever, but they don't knowwhat to do and who to look to.
And I want to talk to you guysabout encouraging you to partner
with people in the holisticrealm.
(00:49):
You need your medical doctorfor what you need them for, but
you need a holistic healer or achiropractic physician who works
with nutrition and mind bodystructure all of the above to
help your body just keep up witha toxic load that we have to
deal with in this world.
So, with that being said, Iwant to just hand it over to Dr
(01:11):
Cari and have her introduceherself and talk to you guys a
little bit about what she doesand go from there.
So take it away, dr.
Dr. Cari (01:18):
Cari, yeah, thank you.
I'm super psyched to be hereand I was thinking today on my
way to work just how long I'vebeen in practice.
I've been practicing for 17years officially.
You have to be unofficial onyour students and need to
practice on everyone, likewhether it's in the bathroom
stall or just throw somebody upagainst the like classroom wall
(01:41):
or whatever, while we practiceand try to get really good.
But my passion and what broughtme to chiropractic school to
begin with was that I wasexposed to an applied
kinesiologist.
Little did I know the extent ofwhat applied kinesiology is,
but ultimately it looks at thebody and it looks at health from
what we reference as the triadso structurally, biochemically
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and emotionally and howeverything's interlinked and
connected so that if one aspectis off balance, it can throw
everything else off balance.
Right, it's like thatequilateral triangle that can
collapse if one piece of it isout.
And what I've been noticing,what I notice a lot, is a lot of
people talk about biochemistryand if you have a parasite, then
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you do this, and if you have athyroid issue or hormone
problems, like you can take thissupplement, you can do that
sort of thing and and still in,that's like symptom managing,
it's symptom chasing, and whatI've and ultimately what I've
found, is that it isn't just onething.
It's eschewarney right, it issuch a journey.
Our health is a journey andthere really isn't an ultimate.
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The ultimate destination, ofcourse, is to be in our thriving
.
But because change is the onlyconstant and life happens and we
don't live in a bubble, we'reconstantly exposed to stressors
and different things.
So we're constantly working tofind that state of homeostasis
and to be in balance and to bein that state of thriving.
So it is truly about having apartner or an army of people
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that, based on what's going on,who you need support from and
how you can get help and how tolaser in and so on.
Now, as in applied kinesiology,we use muscle testing as a
diagnostic tool.
It's a way of guiding.
So a lot of people are superskeptical about muscle testing.
It looks like a big bunch ofbullshit and I call it.
I'm like who's the biggestskeptic here?
(03:39):
Whenever I give health classes,I'm like great, you're the one
to come up, because it's onething to talk about it and it's
another to like fully experienceit right.
And when you experience it yourecognize like the body just
doesn't lie.
We are energetic circuits andwhen there are incongruencies,
if we fall weak and it doesn'tmean we're weak like you can get
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the strongest dude in the gymand hold something up that is
incongruent with his neurologyor biochemistry or physiology or
whatever.
Put it in his mouth if it'ssomething like like a sugar
packet or something like that,and it doesn't matter that he
just lifted 300 pounds, he willgo weak, because it's a matter
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of whether the muscle isfacilitating or inhibiting.
It isn't about strength andweakness.
We, that's the guide, the guide.
Renee (04:30):
And if you think about it in terms of circuitry, like
you're explaining.
I tell people, think about yourheart.
Your heart is a circuit.
It needs that circuitry.
Your whole body is an energyfield.
Yes, and it helps them tounderstand it a little bit more,
but maybe there's some morelight you can shine on that as
well too, because it is hard toexplain it's super hard to
explain.
Dr. Cari (04:46):
I usually will demonstrate with I have this
doll like she, her, she sings,ring around the rosy, it's like
wiggies.
It's a little yikes.
What is she?
It's happening.
But you can hold her hand andhave the person next to you hold
the hand and you can have acircle of 50 to 100 people and
the 50th person can let go ofthe person next to them's hand
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and rosy stops singing.
And they did that.
Renee (05:10):
I was with Sharon.
I was.
There was maybe six.
Dr. Cari (05:14):
Yes, I remember that, yeah, super cool.
So in that it shows that,regardless of how many people,
how few people we do, we we arelike a battery, we're created,
we're in that way, or energy, wecreate a circuit and something
can break that circuit.
It could be somethingbiochemically, it could be like
something that we eat or breatheor touch or drink.
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It could be that we physicallypushed our body a little bit too
hard and we maybe injuredourselves and then that kind of
breaks the circuit.
It can be that we are dealingwith emotions and stress, and I
really find that the emotionalstress piece is the part that's
highly ignored, isn't looked at,but it goes with a lot of what
you do to Renee, which isemotional eating, and how do we
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navigate some of that stuff andhow do we, how do we choose,
like more mindfully for thestuff that we want to put into
our body and at what time willthis particular diet or food fad
work for me here versus overhere, and how do I navigate that
and figure it out?
There's so many things but atthe end of the day, if you
always see yourself fat, whetheryou're 30 pounds lighter or 30
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pounds heavier, what's the rootof that like that's emotional
thing emotional stuff.
Renee (06:24):
So my teacher, dr lumas, who's a chiropractor and taught
me everything I know aboutnutrition, structure and balance
and all that says, if it's nota mechanical issue and it's not
a structural issue, always lookto the emotional stuff.
And I just know being in my own58 year old body and healing the
way I heal and navigating lifethe way I navigate there's so
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much old stuff and it's not thatit keeps me from moving forward
, it's just helping to liftthese layers and help bring out
more of me, more of really who Iwant to be, which leads me to
actually and I don't want tosteal your thunder, dr Kerry,
but I saw Dr Cari's partner, Dr.
Abby, a long time ago before Imoved out here to the border of
Wisconsin, and I'm actuallygoing to be circling back to Dr
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Kerry's office to work on theemotional piece through
something that they do calledQNRT, and I'll let Dr Kerry
explain that.
But what I want to, I want theaudience to hear, is that if
you're stuck on any level,sometimes you can even grab an
essential oil, like I just amnauseous you grab some
peppermint.
That's wonderful, right, startto lean into that.
What else is going on and whatcan you do to really think about
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partnering with somebody tohelp move yourself forward?
When Dr Kerry's talked aboutthat emotional neural rewiring,
it's humongous, so I don't knowif you want it to pop in there
or go somewhere else.
Dr. Cari (07:41):
But I agree, I think having tools and strategies and
support is key to health andwellness and I always say we're
building your arsenal of stufffor your health.
But yeah, so in order tonavigate the triad, I am
certified in practice probablylike 20 different modalities and
to be honest, I would saythere's never like a stealing of
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my thunder.
I celebrate practitioners thatare working towards helping
others thrive and it's why I hadthe vision and held the vision
for BeOptimal.
So BeOptimal Holistic HealthCenter we're in Skokie but we do
remote sessions as well.
So we treat internationally andnationally and obviously we
can't do the physicalmanipulation chiropractically,
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but we do energetic, emotionaland biochemical work in terms of
guiding people to what isspecifically needed for their
body at this time.
So there's no cookie cutterapproach.
We really get specific to eachindividual in terms of what they
need.
And on the emotional side, allthree docs here, all three
chiropractic kinesiologists DrNaomi, dr Abbey, myself are
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certified in neuromotionaltechnique.
I believe Dr Abbey, as well asI know myself, is certified in
the lifeline technique, whichlooks at the subconscious
emotional patterning and thenlately, especially with COVID
and the shutdown, justeverything that that did
biochemically to people as wellas emotionally.
I have found it's really beenimportant to look at the
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neurology and so I've upped mygame in something I've already
been practicing and Dr Naomi wastrained in functional neurology
, but both of us practicequantum neurology, which is
looking at all the energy ofyour cranial nerves, like
getting your operating systemback online, and I really think
that's a big reason why peopleget thrown off in a major way,
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and I personally experiencedlong COVID, so my brain was
literally not functioning.
I could not.
There would be, I could onlysee three or four patients a day
and I would shut down.
I could not hear what somebodywas saying.
I could not integrate it.
My brain was not working for me.
It was very weird, it was veryfreaky, and I shared that with a
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newer friend who practiced inAtlanta and she is I have some
ideas, I'm going to bring it toChicago because she actually was
calling to get treated by meand I was like I'm happy to help
you, but I'm a little jacked upright now, but I'll do my best
and whatever.
So she flew in and we got herworked on and the whole thing
and she's like all right, I'vegot some stuff here.
(10:09):
So she started doing whatunbeknownst to me, what's called
quantum neural reset therapy, qand RT.
She did that.
She did quantum neurology mixedin with some of the methylation
piece that I've also gottencertified in.
So this was my motivation tolike super up, level myself and
learn, because in one sessionI'll fast forward to the, to the
(10:30):
chase or to the, to the result,which is that in one session I
was pulled out of long COVID.
That fast Now it was for me forabout 75 minutes straight.
I processed like a great Z thatevening.
I went to bed that night.
I woke up and I have not hadthe symptoms since.
Knock on wood, now that wasyears ago.
Renee (10:50):
You're going to make me cry.
That's crazy.
I didn't know you had longCOVID.
Oh my gosh.
Dr. Cari (10:54):
Yes, it was two months too long and thank God for
these tools.
But what happened and what Irealized was one there was deep
seated emotion around COVID forme and I've been.
I was super bullied from dayone by my family, who I love
dearly, but I am a black sheephardcore and it was very hard
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for me.
It was like really hard for me.
So, without clearing the traumathat created for me and why, I
believe the door opened for meto actually get as sick as I did
, I wouldn't have been able tolike receive anything else.
So that's what Q and R T did.
Now Q and R T taps into thebrain and allows the brain to
prioritize what cortex of thebrain is affected by whatever
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the trauma is, on multiplelevels.
I could get really deep, butit's not worth this moment of
doing that.
The cranial nerves associated,the hypothalamus, the specific
reflex points and the emotionsassociated and the clearing is
all of that all at the same time.
It's so.
I was like you want me to what?
What she's tapping my head.
I'm looking this way, I'm this,I'm this.
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I have no idea what she's doingand I wanted to pay attention to
what she was saying.
I had no idea what she wassaying.
Tears are streaming but I don'tknow why.
I literally don't know why I'memotional because I can't hear
what she's saying, because Ihave to focus on my this and my
tapping and I don't even know itwas crazy.
But after I got out of it all Iwas like, whatever you just did
, I will.
I vow to learn, and I'm nowcertified in Q and R T and I've
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completed all the methylationclasses and I've already had
done quantum neurology.
I just learned how to integrateit in a way that could help
people and pull them out of longCOVID and some of these other
really deep neurological issues,along with deep trauma,
traumatic issues.
Renee (12:41):
It's been super cool.
Dr. Cari (12:43):
Eight of my 12 cranial nerves were offline, eight
operating system.
Renee (12:49):
It only takes one.
Like I always tell my clients,if you have an orchestra with
one violin out of tune, what'sthat going to sound like?
Same thing Totally.
That's a great analogy.
I just think.
I'm so blown away.
I'm so excited for you and I'mso excited for my appointment
with Dr Naomi next week.
Janine (13:07):
I have a doctor, dr Kerry.
I have a question.
Yeah, is this something thatcan be done virtually, these
techniques, could you treatsomeone with this, this method,
virtually, or do you have to bein person?
Dr. Cari (13:21):
That's a great question.
You cannot change neurology ina distance, at a distance, so
quantum neurology and Q and R?
T has to be done in person Inmy experience.
I just ask you because you'reliterally changing the neurology
of that person.
Renee (13:39):
But possibly maybe down the road.
We ask Kerry to have a like afly in for whoever wants to fly
in and get her super charged upso she can clear everybody.
There might be chiropractors inyour genes in Florida and
there's got to be chiropractorsout there that do this Q and R T
, but it's a big piece and Ijust I really want to get clear
with people that everything isemotional.
(14:00):
There's nothing that's notemotional.
If you're not emotional, you'redead.
Okay, so you have emotionsaround food, around your husband
, around your dog, around yourwork, around your doctor, around
your friend, what they said,whatever it is, there's always
emotion around that.
That automatically changes yourneurology and your
physioneurology.
It changes it immediately,almost as quickly as putting
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something in your mouth thatshouldn't be there.
So how do you build this wholelike Dr Kerry said, this army
how do you get yourself online?
You've got to get yourselfonline with good nutrition, good
hydration and good frickingemotional health, and you need
help for that.
It is not easy.
I actually have experienced forthe past three and a half years
something called psychoneuroimmunology.
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I work with a person that doesthat and it is life changing for
me.
It's a way for my body to notreact to stimulus and stress in
the environment and bring upthese old patterns and even when
they do come up, if all of asudden I feel like I'm having
trouble with my lungs, which Ihave trouble with my lungs if I
can get quiet and allow that tobe there, which is fucking
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impossible, because who wants tofeel their pain?
Nobody wants to feel the pain,right.
But when you can get quiet andyou can partner with somebody to
help you through that momentumof the scariness, the fear, all
that stuff, you can really getyourself moved forward.
And you've got to find theright person.
You've got to find.
I have so many clients comingto me.
I love my chiropractor, dingding.
(15:24):
I love that you need to have aholistic physician to help you
with that whole triad.
Janine (15:29):
Sure, there's a ton of practitioners in South Florida
that can do that.
When you find someone that youlike, it's so interesting.
I'm so interested in knowingmore about what she does.
Renee (15:42):
It's like removing those old trauma loops removes those
patterns and our body is wiredthrough neurology bottom line.
So it's not about muting theneurology or shutting off your
neurology.
Janine (15:53):
It's about helping your neurology be in this world, and
is this something that's donethrough neurologist or it's
taboo for a neurologist and it'sonly done through alternative
health practitioners, through?
Renee (16:05):
chiropractic neurologists .
I wouldn't think a regularneurologist would really have an
idea of this.
If they're on the holistic side, they might think it was cool,
but they wouldn't know how to doit.
This is very specializedtraining.
It's super specialized training.
You heard her talking aboutputting her tongue here, and
when I was actually goingthrough Q and RT with another
chiropractor who did it who'snot doing it anymore I remember
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feeling so good but I didn't doa lot.
I was just holding stuff.
So I'm excited to actually gointo Dr Cari's office.
I'm going to make the drivefrom Fox Lake.
It's about an hour and 15minutes away, but I'm looking
forward to rejiggering some ofthe stuff right on out.
Janine (16:41):
So I love that when she said Skokie.
And one of my oldest childhoodfriends, who now is in Texas,
was born and raised in Skokie,illinois, cool.
Renee (16:50):
I grew up one summer away from there in Lincoln Woods Wow
yeah.
And Dr Cari's office was inGlenview, which is only like 15
minutes away from there, formany years and they've expanded.
Like I said, she's got amedical doctor in there, they've
got a nurse practitioner Ithink it's a nurse practitioner
doing IV therapy, iv nutrition,proper IV nutrition, because you
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don't just want to put a Bvitamins for somebody who
doesn't downregulate it.
You have to know what you'redoing.
So I think it's pretty awesome.
They think about stuff that'smaybe a little bit stressful.
It's an automatic physiology,physiological change in the body
.
So how do we strengthen yourbody to not really have a huge
response to this?
So I was talking aboutpsychoneuroimmunology, which is
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a type of psychotherapy thatworks with mind-body connection
and it works with havingreleasing some of those hooks of
trauma or stress that peopleexperience as a child and or any
time in their life, and havingthat duplicate itself in your
current life, right now.
But in a perfect world, yourneurology should be able to
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allow you to say, hey, I'm goingto go enjoy this time, I'm not
going to be quiet, I'm going tospeak by mind, whatever I want
to speak, and my body is notgoing to let me know that I'm
having a problem by getting acidreflux or a stomach ache or a
headache, or I can't breathe.
The body just responds.
It's the same thing.
If you're starving and yousmell something in your salivary
gland, go shh, that's it.
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That's your brain telling yoursalivary gland.
Hey, there's a chocolatecupcake over there.
Janine (18:21):
I'm on it.
That sounds good.
As long as it's gluten-free,I'm down.
Renee (18:25):
Exactly, exactly.
And your lungs, your palms getsweaty when you're nervous,
because you're about to speak orwhatever it is.
That's your physiology, that'syour neurology telling your
brain oh my God, you have to dosomething stressful and your
body's responding.
It's the same thing that DrCari does.
It's the same exact thing thatshe's talking about helping that
the neurology not respond, butbe a little more stable so that
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your body isn't in this fight orflight all the time.
You know what I mean.
So true, yeah, and then ashumans, we react to fight or
flight by making poor foodchoices, right, or making an
alcohol choice.
Now, I'm not saying wine is bad, I'm saying wine every day is
probably bad, right, and atleast without the histamine one,
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because that thing helps removethe histamine.
So you could probably have oneevery day if you took the
histamines out.
But on the same level.
Moderation, enjoyment,fulfillment.
I like to try to help peoplefind the joy in eating so that
they're not feeling sorestricted again.
Janine (19:24):
You help me find the joy in eating.
That is the one thing I couldhonestly say after struggling
with an eating disorder for somany years and the psychological
effects and the physicaleffects that has on someone's
body, which I don't telleveryone about because people
just don't understand.
They don't understand it.
It's not an addiction likealcoholism or even drug
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addiction that is almost okayedin society as oh, I understand
that.
But if you say you'rerecovering from anorexia or
bulimia, people don't get it andthey just don't get it.
Renee (20:03):
Dr Cari is trying to get back on here.
She just asked me to call her,so let's see here She'll answer.
Janine (20:10):
Yeah, I keep.
You know what?
It's funny because yourbackground Renee.
Every time I look at it I keepthinking that Rook is going to
move from his bed because it'sso real looking that I'm like,
oh my God, it's Rook and it'sjust, he's just chilling.
Renee (20:25):
Hang on.
His trainer would be so proud.
What a good place.
He's not even moving a muscle.
Janine (20:28):
Exactly, exactly.
He's a show dog.
Renee (20:31):
Talk about a place, don't move a muscle Rook.
Dr Kerr.
Janine (20:35):
I have a million questions.
So pretend I'm the villageidiot and I'm sitting here and
I'm like what is this?
Q and R, t?
And for I have a friend of mine, david, who's actually
commenting what is that?
What exactly?
Is it a series of movementsthat's done by someone in your
field?
What is it exactly?
Dr. Cari (20:55):
Okay, so it uses muscle testing or reflex testing
, because that triggers in theneurology Like the athlete
putting the sugar on his tongue,and then there's a response.
Renee (21:06):
So that's the first part.
Dr. Cari (21:07):
So actually the first part in this is getting the
cerebellum online.
Oh, so the cerebellum is acortex.
So just because it's thecerebellum online doesn't mean
you're working with just thecerebellum as the cortex,
although that's one of the mainbaseline components to really
getting somebody back online.
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But it actually uses to standup two feet together and you see
which way somebody bobbles.
That's usually the side of thebrain that needs support.
If the cerebellum is not online, then you have to take it
further.
How are you tapping in andtaking it further?
You use laser light.
So specifically red light isused for most everything.
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Green light is specifically forinflammation along with some
other things, and then an addedblue light is in for some toxic
reactions to things.
That's more advanced.
So usually you've got to getmore of the baseline lower
portions of the brain first.
So you're working more thecerebellum, midbrain, brainstem
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and cerebral medulla for thosebrain nerds that know the
specific cortexes of the brain.
So you're working those fourinitially to build strength, if
you will, in the brain, and thenyou can start working some of
the upper parts, thepost-sensory, premotor, et
cetera.
Janine (22:29):
Interesting, thank you and in one session you were
saying you were cured of longCOVID.
Typically do people buy apackage, or how does that work?
Dr. Cari (22:39):
Is it per session or yeah, and that session was a mix
of three different techniquesand that is truly, I would say,
the magic of what I do and whatwe do here.
Our chiropracticchemistologists tend to be
weavers of magic, because weweave specific techniques and
things that are needed for thatparticular person in that
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particular moment.
That's the beauty of muscletesting, because the bodies and
the intelligence guides that.
So how do I usually see people?
I would say usually I'll planfor once a week or once every
other week, just depending onhow sick somebody is or not.
Now I tend to see reallycomplicated cases, unfortunately
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.
I sometimes would appreciatejust a little simple headache or
low back pain or a littleallergy.
That would be nice, but yeah,so usually I don't see people
more than once a week, unlessthe only time I've ever done
that is actually helpingsomebody transition out of life,
and then time is literally ofthe essence and we're helping
them to transition and getaligned and OK in the best
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possible way.
Wow and something.
Yeah, yeah, it's something.
Yeah, I can't say it's happeneda ton, but I have.
Really it's an honor in someway and it's super intense.
But I would say once a week sothat you have ample time to
integrate the work.
Sometimes somebody needs acouple of weeks to integrate
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everything that's done.
Usually the sessions the firstsession is always an hour and I
use every minute of it, and thensome.
This is why I was late today,so I apologize and then follow
ups are usually 30 minutes.
Now if it's a baby or kids orsomeone that's been seeing me
for a while, usually I can do awhole lot in 15 minutes.
So it just depends.
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But usually follow ups are 15and 30 minutes.
The goal is to get people onmaintenance.
So for some people I'm likeonce a month is great or once a
season, and other people I'llsay I'll see you in four weeks,
every three to four weeks isfine, and I'll say the minute I
hit three weeks is just too long.
Really, that two to three weekmark is more for me for
maintenance.
That feels best to me becausethey run their body real hard,
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they run life really hard orjust stress or whatever.
So then I always say you bestand then you do what's right for
you.
And for some people are like Iknow you want me here every two
weeks, but the budget doesn'tallow for it and I just
literally don't have time, itbecomes stressful and it's less.
That would defeat the purpose.
We don't want to create morestress, so we just work with
what people can do.
Then, and maybe that is justonce a month, we'll still get
(25:10):
results.
It just might take a little bitlonger to get the results that
we're looking for.
Renee (25:14):
But it's okay as long as we're continuing to move.
And who might be somebody thatwould benefit from this?
Anybody with any digestiveissues, anybody with any stress
in their life, work, stress,whatever it is.
If you have just gas andbloating, I can absolutely tell
you that there's an old patternthere somewhere.
It could be what you're eating,it certainly could be dairy, it
certainly could be gluten, itcould be high histamine foods,
(25:35):
whatever, but that stuff alltranslates into your digestive
tract.
So for someone like you, janine, who's feeling so good, you're
gluten free, you're rocking it,you're feeling great, you've got
this great eating habit.
Now You're having joy back in.
What you're eating was just soimportant, right?
What if something else showedup for you now?
Because, as you shared with methings, it certainly could be
great for you to take a littletiptoe through the two of us
(25:58):
with a professional who knowshow to help you move that stuff
through.
And again, this is the wholepremise of this live is we all
need a partner.
Dr Cari said we need an army.
I'm with her on that, 100%.
Janine (26:10):
I believe that 100%.
I believe that 100%.
Yeah, you need a team and Ithink, people.
My best friend of, oh gosh, 37years I'm really aging myself,
but 37 years has now adopted anentire holistic health routine
for her husband and her familyno red dye, no gluten, no that
(26:30):
functional medicine to the max,because obviously what's
happening a lot of the times isnot working, and so when things
are failing to work intraditional medicine, I think
people are like all right, I'lldo whatever it takes.
Tell me what's wrong and how tofix it, and how I can feel
better and how I can live longerin the healthiest way possible.
(26:51):
Right.
Renee (26:52):
People want to.
Dr. Cari (26:53):
They want to 20 people could come in as you know this,
renee too 20 people could walkin with digestive issues, and
every single person, every oneof those 20 people.
There's a different root causeand reason for it, oh yeah.
Renee (27:06):
And it's not usually here's the answer.
Dr. Cari (27:08):
And yep, just take some digestive enzymes.
You're good to go bye, bye.
Yeah, it's not like you couldplay a role.
Sure, Would that help managethe symptoms.
While you get to the root causeof why that person might be
refluxing every time they eat,or as one here in here today.
She's like every time I eat Iburp.
Now and I think it's formultiple reasons and I do think
(27:31):
she might have a crater going on.
But in the meantime she needshelp digesting her food period
and a story.
So she needs tools to do someof those things.
But what's the reason it'shappening?
Renee (27:44):
And to your point earlier too, is about the supplements
are important, but they're waterwings.
It's not even like a life vest.
They're only water wings tokeep you floating.
Supplementation is important,but this is really where the
magic is for sure.
So now I think you're freezingagain, dr.
Janine (28:07):
Luke Hmastergoulop.
Dr. Cari (28:11):
No, not really.
Janine (28:13):
Yeah, let me, let's see, let me.
Can you do something on yourengine?
Yeah, I'm going to remove her.
Yeah, just removed her, just tomake sure.
I think we should do a part twoon this.
Dr. Cari (28:30):
Okay, we can carry.
Renee (28:32):
Yeah, because there is so much that I there's so much to
talk about with this, I know, Iknow I would love to have her on
again.
Yeah, part two, definitelyWe'll do a part two.
I feel bad They'll have to workon their band with maybe, or
get like a hotspot or something,or hardwire them or something.
Maybe they can have whoeverdoes their computers over there
to make sure that she doesn'tdrop out again for sure.
(28:54):
But yeah, so for those peoplethat are interested, like I said
, find your local chiropractor.
See if they do any kind of notjust muscle testing.
Qnrt is quantum neural resettechnique, any kind of she
mentioned lifeline technique.
There's 10,000 other ones.
But find what works for you Ifyou are looking for a partner in
your health, your localnutritionists, tummy whisperer,
(29:14):
digestive health specialists,physical therapist, whoever is
psychotherapist, whoever youneed to help put you on the path
so that you can keep movingforward.
Sometimes we're on the path andsometimes we're just coasting
and we're just stuck on the path, which is totally okay too, and
if we're stuck on the path,that's not a bad thing, right?
It's just letting us know.
Hey, who do we find to help us,push us forward Hard?
Janine (29:36):
to.
So yeah, so this is fascinating.
I had never heard of this QNRT.
Renee (29:42):
An acronym.
Janine (29:43):
I've that's what it's called.
I believe it's an acronym.
I've never heard of thatacronym before until today, and
most care it's done by mostchiropractic physicians.
Renee (29:50):
And just to touch for a minute on chiropractic,
everybody thinks of them as justfat crackers and they're not.
I want to stress the point thatchiropractic is really anatomy
and physiology married byneurology, again back to your
nervous system.
So when somebody like Dr Careyor a chiropractor can take the
pressure off your nervous systemby giving you a nice
chiropractic adjustment, thatalso helps their internal
(30:12):
terrain, your organs andeverything else work better.
So chiropractic kinesiology,better nutrition, better
hydration, better sleep and ifyour sleep is so messed up it's
because obviously I go right todigestion and drainals and
stress and it's the same loopthat we've been talking about
for the past 40 minutes.
Makes sense.
Oh, let me see here, let me see.
(30:34):
I'm trying to call her, she'strying to call me.
She's saying, yes, part two,part two.
But for people who areinterested, dr Carey owns Be
Optimal Health and Wellness inSkokie, illinois.
Like I said, they do.
They can do some remote stuff,of course.
All of my stuff is done,telehealth and remote.
I'm blessed and honored to haveclients from all over the
(30:57):
United States and medicaldoctors sending me their
patients, because the few thatsend know that the patients just
don't want to take acid refluxmedication and that's not the
fix anyway.
That's a possible symptomreliever for a moment, but it's
really shutting off yourdigestion.
We can talk for hours aboutthat.
But, yeah, but I again want tolovingly encourage everybody.
(31:17):
It's a new year.
Take charge, you know, ifnothing changes right.
So you have to make a littleeffort and you're worth it.
Your family is relying on you,your pets are relying on you,
your coworkers are relying onyou, and you need to take care
of yourself and don't use moneyas the excuse to not.
We have to invest in yourhealth.
(31:40):
It's an investment, not anexpense.
Janine (31:42):
So I'm off for so long.
There she is Dr Carey, I'm here.
Renee (31:51):
I just want to be optimized, gave your location,
it's okay.
Dr. Cari (31:55):
Oh, my God, hilarious.
I heard you say let's do a parttwo and I was thinking the same
exact thing, because it's moredigestible, than people will
have questions and that kind ofthing, and it's truly my joy
again to be able to offer thesupport and the information I
really.
Doctor in latin means to teach,so educate first, then treat,
because then that empowerspeople with tools also to like
(32:17):
really be able to navigate.
And the other thing I wanted tosay before I get freaking cut
off again so funny, I can hearyou and then you guys are like I
can't hear you, like I see you,I know what that is.
That nutrition piece is superfoundational.
It's like someone is superclean Can, has taken out
inflammatory foods and all that.
(32:38):
They can be fine tuned soquickly because you don't have
to clear the cobwebs in theclouds, because it really
already done their work to laythat foundation down from a
biochemical level.
It's so super important.
So like getting people toreally understand in general, I
talk about the five basics water, food, rest.
(33:00):
Exercise on your power withquality, quantity and frequent.
So good quality water, a greatquantity, right, have your body
weight announces or so, and withfrequency.
Keep the river running.
Food avoided the inflammatorystuff, the wheat, the sugar, the
corn, the soy, the dairy, thelike crap that just makes us
feel like crap literally andmaking sure that we get rest.
(33:23):
If you're not sleeping, you'renot restoring.
So if that's a problem, that'sgot to be our priority, you have
to get people sleeping.
It's such a big problem andit's ultimately just means
people's autonomic nervoussystems are not regulated.
They they don't know how tofire up the Paris and, pathetic
they don't know how to rest anddigest.
Well, they're constantly inthat fire to flight and they
can't seem to come down.
(33:43):
That's a big problem.
That also means you won'tintegrate healing.
You won't heal well, rightExercise, right when we're
moving, like more, more balancedeverything's more balanced in
our life or circulations.
Better, everything's better.
And there are ways to do it.
When you physically can't like,sitting in an infrared sonic
gives you a subtle, it gives thebody of physiological responses
(34:03):
.
If you're doing aerobicexercise when you're not, but
you're sweating and you'redetoxing at the same time, it'd
be very beneficial.
And then just owning your powerif you don't feel passionate
about something, then what's thepoint of getting out of bed and
trying to eat healthfully anddrink good quality water?
Right, it's just as importantto me as like all this other
stuff.
So, in general, when we haveaccess to doing sort of the five
(34:25):
basics and we are educated onhow to better do it, like that
is the foundation and now we canbuild off of it and start
clearing the subconsciousemotional stuff and supporting
it with homeopathy and vitaminsand supplements and things like
that.
So yeah, yeah, it was perfect.
Renee (34:40):
Yeah, no, very well said and I think, for and again, the
whole idea of this podcast wasto really help people just take
a step in, do something.
If you're going to go glutenfree or try to take dairy out or
something, and they havesomebody help you along with it,
so that you can really stepinto feeling like you're
partnering with somebody foryour health.
It is so important.
It's hard to do by yourself andI'm so grateful that I have the
(35:02):
team, that I have a village ofan army.
I've got army Navy, air ForceMarines.
I'm just super excited to getstarted on my Q and RT and I
think we're going to definitelyhave to do a part two because I
think this is motivating for alot of people.
Like Dr Perry said, I knowshe's frozen against public and
hear me, but people are going tohave questions, they're going
to have questions and we'lldefinitely do a part two and
(35:25):
this is just super exciting.
So, dr Kerry, thank you so muchfor taking time out of your
very busy day and busy practiceto be with me and Jeanine and
help give some information topeople who I think are going to
get excited about doingsomething great with their
health in 2024.
For sure.
Janine (35:41):
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With the podcast goes a longway.
We hope you learn something.
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She has helped me tremendouslywith the best of health.
I've gone through her programand so if you have any questions
(36:02):
, her information is below.
You can go to the tummywhisperer calm.
In the show notes there's alink that you can have a
consultation with her and we.
I did it all virtually.
I've lived in Florida.
She lives in Chicago or outsideof Chicago, illinois.
Renee (36:17):
I'm not going to go to Wisconsin, but yeah, or
Wisconsin, whatever, wherevershe's living today.
Janine (36:23):
The point is, we're 1000s of miles away and we were
able to.
She was able to help me, so shecan help you.
Renee (36:29):
Absolutely.
I absolutely can.
Thank you everybody forlistening.
See everybody in two weeks.
Welcome everybody to the Tummy Whisperer podcast.
I'm your host, renee Barish.
I am very excited today becauseI've gotten a very special
guest on.
I have Dr Cari Jacobson on fromBe Optimal Health and Wellness
and we're here together to talkto you guys today about what it
would look like to maybe take alittle step forward with your
health.
(00:29):
And I know this is a time ofyear where so many people are
thinking about what can they doto feel better, people already
feeling like shit from theholidays anyway, and they're
like, okay, I'm going to startJanuary 2nd, right or 1st or
whatever, but they don't knowwhat to do and who to look to.
And I want to talk to you guysabout encouraging you to partner
with people in the holisticrealm.
(00:49):
You need your medical doctorfor what you need them for, but
you need a holistic healer or achiropractic physician who works
with nutrition and mind bodystructure all of the above to
help your body just keep up witha toxic load that we have to
deal with in this world.
So, with that being said, Iwant to just hand it over to Dr
(01:11):
Cari and have her introduceherself and talk to you guys a
little bit about what she doesand go from there.
So take it away, dr.
Dr. Cari (01:18):
Cari, yeah, thank you.
I'm super psyched to be hereand I was thinking today on my
way to work just how long I'vebeen in practice.
I've been practicing for 17years officially.
You have to be unofficial onyour students and need to
practice on everyone, likewhether it's in the bathroom
stall or just throw somebody upagainst the like classroom wall
(01:41):
or whatever, while we practiceand try to get really good.
But my passion and what broughtme to chiropractic school to
begin with was that I wasexposed to an applied
kinesiologist.
Little did I know the extent ofwhat applied kinesiology is,
but ultimately it looks at thebody and it looks at health from
what we reference as the triadso structurally, biochemically
(02:05):
and emotionally and howeverything's interlinked and
connected so that if one aspectis off balance, it can throw
everything else off balance.
Right, it's like thatequilateral triangle that can
collapse if one piece of it isout.
And what I've been noticing,what I notice a lot, is a lot of
people talk about biochemistryand if you have a parasite, then
(02:26):
you do this, and if you have athyroid issue or hormone
problems, like you can take thissupplement, you can do that
sort of thing and and still in,that's like symptom managing,
it's symptom chasing, and whatI've and ultimately what I've
found, is that it isn't just onething.
It's eschewarney right, it issuch a journey.
Our health is a journey andthere really isn't an ultimate.
(02:51):
The ultimate destination, ofcourse, is to be in our thriving
.
But because change is the onlyconstant and life happens and we
don't live in a bubble, we'reconstantly exposed to stressors
and different things.
So we're constantly working tofind that state of homeostasis
and to be in balance and to bein that state of thriving.
So it is truly about having apartner or an army of people
(03:18):
that, based on what's going on,who you need support from and
how you can get help and how tolaser in and so on.
Now, as in applied kinesiology,we use muscle testing as a
diagnostic tool.
It's a way of guiding.
So a lot of people are superskeptical about muscle testing.
It looks like a big bunch ofbullshit and I call it.
I'm like who's the biggestskeptic here?
(03:39):
Whenever I give health classes,I'm like great, you're the one
to come up, because it's onething to talk about it and it's
another to like fully experienceit right.
And when you experience it yourecognize like the body just
doesn't lie.
We are energetic circuits andwhen there are incongruencies,
if we fall weak and it doesn'tmean we're weak like you can get
(04:01):
the strongest dude in the gymand hold something up that is
incongruent with his neurologyor biochemistry or physiology or
whatever.
Put it in his mouth if it'ssomething like like a sugar
packet or something like that,and it doesn't matter that he
just lifted 300 pounds, he willgo weak, because it's a matter
(04:22):
of whether the muscle isfacilitating or inhibiting.
It isn't about strength andweakness.
We, that's the guide, the guide.
Renee (04:30):
And if you think about it in terms of circuitry, like
you're explaining.
I tell people, think about yourheart.
Your heart is a circuit.
It needs that circuitry.
Your whole body is an energyfield.
Yes, and it helps them tounderstand it a little bit more,
but maybe there's some morelight you can shine on that as
well too, because it is hard toexplain it's super hard to
explain.
Dr. Cari (04:46):
I usually will demonstrate with I have this
doll like she, her, she sings,ring around the rosy, it's like
wiggies.
It's a little yikes.
What is she?
It's happening.
But you can hold her hand andhave the person next to you hold
the hand and you can have acircle of 50 to 100 people and
the 50th person can let go ofthe person next to them's hand
(05:07):
and rosy stops singing.
And they did that.
Renee (05:10):
I was with Sharon.
I was.
There was maybe six.
Dr. Cari (05:14):
Yes, I remember that, yeah, super cool.
So in that it shows that,regardless of how many people,
how few people we do, we we arelike a battery, we're created,
we're in that way, or energy, wecreate a circuit and something
can break that circuit.
It could be somethingbiochemically, it could be like
something that we eat or breatheor touch or drink.
(05:34):
It could be that we physicallypushed our body a little bit too
hard and we maybe injuredourselves and then that kind of
breaks the circuit.
It can be that we are dealingwith emotions and stress, and I
really find that the emotionalstress piece is the part that's
highly ignored, isn't looked at,but it goes with a lot of what
you do to Renee, which isemotional eating, and how do we
(05:55):
navigate some of that stuff andhow do we, how do we choose,
like more mindfully for thestuff that we want to put into
our body and at what time willthis particular diet or food fad
work for me here versus overhere, and how do I navigate that
and figure it out?
There's so many things but atthe end of the day, if you
always see yourself fat, whetheryou're 30 pounds lighter or 30
(06:17):
pounds heavier, what's the rootof that like that's emotional
thing emotional stuff.
Renee (06:24):
So my teacher, dr lumas, who's a chiropractor and taught
me everything I know aboutnutrition, structure and balance
and all that says, if it's nota mechanical issue and it's not
a structural issue, always lookto the emotional stuff.
And I just know being in my own58 year old body and healing the
way I heal and navigating lifethe way I navigate there's so
(06:45):
much old stuff and it's not thatit keeps me from moving forward
, it's just helping to liftthese layers and help bring out
more of me, more of really who Iwant to be, which leads me to
actually and I don't want tosteal your thunder, dr Kerry,
but I saw Dr Cari's partner, Dr.
Abby, a long time ago before Imoved out here to the border of
Wisconsin, and I'm actuallygoing to be circling back to Dr
(07:07):
Kerry's office to work on theemotional piece through
something that they do calledQNRT, and I'll let Dr Kerry
explain that.
But what I want to, I want theaudience to hear, is that if
you're stuck on any level,sometimes you can even grab an
essential oil, like I just amnauseous you grab some
peppermint.
That's wonderful, right, startto lean into that.
What else is going on and whatcan you do to really think about
(07:30):
partnering with somebody tohelp move yourself forward?
When Dr Kerry's talked aboutthat emotional neural rewiring,
it's humongous, so I don't knowif you want it to pop in there
or go somewhere else.
Dr. Cari (07:41):
But I agree, I think having tools and strategies and
support is key to health andwellness and I always say we're
building your arsenal of stufffor your health.
But yeah, so in order tonavigate the triad, I am
certified in practice probablylike 20 different modalities and
to be honest, I would saythere's never like a stealing of
(08:02):
my thunder.
I celebrate practitioners thatare working towards helping
others thrive and it's why I hadthe vision and held the vision
for BeOptimal.
So BeOptimal Holistic HealthCenter we're in Skokie but we do
remote sessions as well.
So we treat internationally andnationally and obviously we
can't do the physicalmanipulation chiropractically,
(08:23):
but we do energetic, emotionaland biochemical work in terms of
guiding people to what isspecifically needed for their
body at this time.
So there's no cookie cutterapproach.
We really get specific to eachindividual in terms of what they
need.
And on the emotional side, allthree docs here, all three
chiropractic kinesiologists DrNaomi, dr Abbey, myself are
(08:43):
certified in neuromotionaltechnique.
I believe Dr Abbey, as well asI know myself, is certified in
the lifeline technique, whichlooks at the subconscious
emotional patterning and thenlately, especially with COVID
and the shutdown, justeverything that that did
biochemically to people as wellas emotionally.
I have found it's really beenimportant to look at the
(09:05):
neurology and so I've upped mygame in something I've already
been practicing and Dr Naomi wastrained in functional neurology
, but both of us practicequantum neurology, which is
looking at all the energy ofyour cranial nerves, like
getting your operating systemback online, and I really think
that's a big reason why peopleget thrown off in a major way,
(09:27):
and I personally experiencedlong COVID, so my brain was
literally not functioning.
I could not.
There would be, I could onlysee three or four patients a day
and I would shut down.
I could not hear what somebodywas saying.
I could not integrate it.
My brain was not working for me.
It was very weird, it was veryfreaky, and I shared that with a
(09:48):
newer friend who practiced inAtlanta and she is I have some
ideas, I'm going to bring it toChicago because she actually was
calling to get treated by meand I was like I'm happy to help
you, but I'm a little jacked upright now, but I'll do my best
and whatever.
So she flew in and we got herworked on and the whole thing
and she's like all right, I'vegot some stuff here.
(10:09):
So she started doing whatunbeknownst to me, what's called
quantum neural reset therapy, qand RT.
She did that.
She did quantum neurology mixedin with some of the methylation
piece that I've also gottencertified in.
So this was my motivation tolike super up, level myself and
learn, because in one sessionI'll fast forward to the, to the
(10:30):
chase or to the, to the result,which is that in one session I
was pulled out of long COVID.
That fast Now it was for me forabout 75 minutes straight.
I processed like a great Z thatevening.
I went to bed that night.
I woke up and I have not hadthe symptoms since.
Knock on wood, now that wasyears ago.
Renee (10:50):
You're going to make me cry.
That's crazy.
I didn't know you had longCOVID.
Oh my gosh.
Dr. Cari (10:54):
Yes, it was two months too long and thank God for
these tools.
But what happened and what Irealized was one there was deep
seated emotion around COVID forme and I've been.
I was super bullied from dayone by my family, who I love
dearly, but I am a black sheephardcore and it was very hard
(11:16):
for me.
It was like really hard for me.
So, without clearing the traumathat created for me and why, I
believe the door opened for meto actually get as sick as I did
, I wouldn't have been able tolike receive anything else.
So that's what Q and R T did.
Now Q and R T taps into thebrain and allows the brain to
prioritize what cortex of thebrain is affected by whatever
(11:40):
the trauma is, on multiplelevels.
I could get really deep, butit's not worth this moment of
doing that.
The cranial nerves associated,the hypothalamus, the specific
reflex points and the emotionsassociated and the clearing is
all of that all at the same time.
It's so.
I was like you want me to what?
What she's tapping my head.
I'm looking this way, I'm this,I'm this.
(12:02):
I have no idea what she's doingand I wanted to pay attention to
what she was saying.
I had no idea what she wassaying.
Tears are streaming but I don'tknow why.
I literally don't know why I'memotional because I can't hear
what she's saying, because Ihave to focus on my this and my
tapping and I don't even know itwas crazy.
But after I got out of it all Iwas like, whatever you just did
, I will.
I vow to learn, and I'm nowcertified in Q and R T and I've
(12:26):
completed all the methylationclasses and I've already had
done quantum neurology.
I just learned how to integrateit in a way that could help
people and pull them out of longCOVID and some of these other
really deep neurological issues,along with deep trauma,
traumatic issues.
Renee (12:41):
It's been super cool.
Dr. Cari (12:43):
Eight of my 12 cranial nerves were offline, eight
operating system.
Renee (12:49):
It only takes one.
Like I always tell my clients,if you have an orchestra with
one violin out of tune, what'sthat going to sound like?
Same thing Totally.
That's a great analogy.
I just think.
I'm so blown away.
I'm so excited for you and I'mso excited for my appointment
with Dr Naomi next week.
Janine (13:07):
I have a doctor, dr Kerry.
I have a question.
Yeah, is this something thatcan be done virtually, these
techniques, could you treatsomeone with this, this method,
virtually, or do you have to bein person?
Dr. Cari (13:21):
That's a great question.
You cannot change neurology ina distance, at a distance, so
quantum neurology and Q and R?
T has to be done in person Inmy experience.
I just ask you because you'reliterally changing the neurology
of that person.
Renee (13:39):
But possibly maybe down the road.
We ask Kerry to have a like afly in for whoever wants to fly
in and get her super charged upso she can clear everybody.
There might be chiropractors inyour genes in Florida and
there's got to be chiropractorsout there that do this Q and R T
, but it's a big piece and Ijust I really want to get clear
with people that everything isemotional.
(14:00):
There's nothing that's notemotional.
If you're not emotional, you'redead.
Okay, so you have emotionsaround food, around your husband
, around your dog, around yourwork, around your doctor, around
your friend, what they said,whatever it is, there's always
emotion around that.
That automatically changes yourneurology and your
physioneurology.
It changes it immediately,almost as quickly as putting
(14:20):
something in your mouth thatshouldn't be there.
So how do you build this wholelike Dr Kerry said, this army
how do you get yourself online?
You've got to get yourselfonline with good nutrition, good
hydration and good frickingemotional health, and you need
help for that.
It is not easy.
I actually have experienced forthe past three and a half years
something called psychoneuroimmunology.
(14:42):
I work with a person that doesthat and it is life changing for
me.
It's a way for my body to notreact to stimulus and stress in
the environment and bring upthese old patterns and even when
they do come up, if all of asudden I feel like I'm having
trouble with my lungs, which Ihave trouble with my lungs if I
can get quiet and allow that tobe there, which is fucking
(15:04):
impossible, because who wants tofeel their pain?
Nobody wants to feel the pain,right.
But when you can get quiet andyou can partner with somebody to
help you through that momentumof the scariness, the fear, all
that stuff, you can really getyourself moved forward.
And you've got to find theright person.
You've got to find.
I have so many clients comingto me.
I love my chiropractor, dingding.
(15:24):
I love that you need to have aholistic physician to help you
with that whole triad.
Janine (15:29):
Sure, there's a ton of practitioners in South Florida
that can do that.
When you find someone that youlike, it's so interesting.
I'm so interested in knowingmore about what she does.
Renee (15:42):
It's like removing those old trauma loops removes those
patterns and our body is wiredthrough neurology bottom line.
So it's not about muting theneurology or shutting off your
neurology.
Janine (15:53):
It's about helping your neurology be in this world, and
is this something that's donethrough neurologist or it's
taboo for a neurologist and it'sonly done through alternative
health practitioners, through?
Renee (16:05):
chiropractic neurologists .
I wouldn't think a regularneurologist would really have an
idea of this.
If they're on the holistic side, they might think it was cool,
but they wouldn't know how to doit.
This is very specializedtraining.
It's super specialized training.
You heard her talking aboutputting her tongue here, and
when I was actually goingthrough Q and RT with another
chiropractor who did it who'snot doing it anymore I remember
(16:27):
feeling so good but I didn't doa lot.
I was just holding stuff.
So I'm excited to actually gointo Dr Cari's office.
I'm going to make the drivefrom Fox Lake.
It's about an hour and 15minutes away, but I'm looking
forward to rejiggering some ofthe stuff right on out.
Janine (16:41):
So I love that when she said Skokie.
And one of my oldest childhoodfriends, who now is in Texas,
was born and raised in Skokie,illinois, cool.
Renee (16:50):
I grew up one summer away from there in Lincoln Woods Wow
yeah.
And Dr Cari's office was inGlenview, which is only like 15
minutes away from there, formany years and they've expanded.
Like I said, she's got amedical doctor in there, they've
got a nurse practitioner Ithink it's a nurse practitioner
doing IV therapy, iv nutrition,proper IV nutrition, because you
(17:12):
don't just want to put a Bvitamins for somebody who
doesn't downregulate it.
You have to know what you'redoing.
So I think it's pretty awesome.
They think about stuff that'smaybe a little bit stressful.
It's an automatic physiology,physiological change in the body
.
So how do we strengthen yourbody to not really have a huge
response to this?
So I was talking aboutpsychoneuroimmunology, which is
(17:34):
a type of psychotherapy thatworks with mind-body connection
and it works with havingreleasing some of those hooks of
trauma or stress that peopleexperience as a child and or any
time in their life, and havingthat duplicate itself in your
current life, right now.
But in a perfect world, yourneurology should be able to
(17:55):
allow you to say, hey, I'm goingto go enjoy this time, I'm not
going to be quiet, I'm going tospeak by mind, whatever I want
to speak, and my body is notgoing to let me know that I'm
having a problem by getting acidreflux or a stomach ache or a
headache, or I can't breathe.
The body just responds.
It's the same thing.
If you're starving and yousmell something in your salivary
gland, go shh, that's it.
(18:16):
That's your brain telling yoursalivary gland.
Hey, there's a chocolatecupcake over there.
Janine (18:21):
I'm on it.
That sounds good.
As long as it's gluten-free,I'm down.
Renee (18:25):
Exactly, exactly.
And your lungs, your palms getsweaty when you're nervous,
because you're about to speak orwhatever it is.
That's your physiology, that'syour neurology telling your
brain oh my God, you have to dosomething stressful and your
body's responding.
It's the same thing that DrCari does.
It's the same exact thing thatshe's talking about helping that
the neurology not respond, butbe a little more stable so that
(18:48):
your body isn't in this fight orflight all the time.
You know what I mean.
So true, yeah, and then ashumans, we react to fight or
flight by making poor foodchoices, right, or making an
alcohol choice.
Now, I'm not saying wine is bad, I'm saying wine every day is
probably bad, right, and atleast without the histamine one,
(19:09):
because that thing helps removethe histamine.
So you could probably have oneevery day if you took the
histamines out.
But on the same level.
Moderation, enjoyment,fulfillment.
I like to try to help peoplefind the joy in eating so that
they're not feeling sorestricted again.
Janine (19:24):
You help me find the joy in eating.
That is the one thing I couldhonestly say after struggling
with an eating disorder for somany years and the psychological
effects and the physicaleffects that has on someone's
body, which I don't telleveryone about because people
just don't understand.
They don't understand it.
It's not an addiction likealcoholism or even drug
(19:46):
addiction that is almost okayedin society as oh, I understand
that.
But if you say you'rerecovering from anorexia or
bulimia, people don't get it andthey just don't get it.
Renee (20:03):
Dr Cari is trying to get back on here.
She just asked me to call her,so let's see here She'll answer.
Janine (20:10):
Yeah, I keep.
You know what?
It's funny because yourbackground Renee.
Every time I look at it I keepthinking that Rook is going to
move from his bed because it'sso real looking that I'm like,
oh my God, it's Rook and it'sjust, he's just chilling.
Renee (20:25):
Hang on.
His trainer would be so proud.
What a good place.
He's not even moving a muscle.
Janine (20:28):
Exactly, exactly.
He's a show dog.
Renee (20:31):
Talk about a place, don't move a muscle Rook.
Dr Kerr.
Janine (20:35):
I have a million questions.
So pretend I'm the villageidiot and I'm sitting here and
I'm like what is this?
Q and R, t?
And for I have a friend of mine, david, who's actually
commenting what is that?
What exactly?
Is it a series of movementsthat's done by someone in your
field?
What is it exactly?
Dr. Cari (20:55):
Okay, so it uses muscle testing or reflex testing
, because that triggers in theneurology Like the athlete
putting the sugar on his tongue,and then there's a response.
Renee (21:06):
So that's the first part.
Dr. Cari (21:07):
So actually the first part in this is getting the
cerebellum online.
Oh, so the cerebellum is acortex.
So just because it's thecerebellum online doesn't mean
you're working with just thecerebellum as the cortex,
although that's one of the mainbaseline components to really
getting somebody back online.
(21:27):
But it actually uses to standup two feet together and you see
which way somebody bobbles.
That's usually the side of thebrain that needs support.
If the cerebellum is not online, then you have to take it
further.
How are you tapping in andtaking it further?
You use laser light.
So specifically red light isused for most everything.
(21:49):
Green light is specifically forinflammation along with some
other things, and then an addedblue light is in for some toxic
reactions to things.
That's more advanced.
So usually you've got to getmore of the baseline lower
portions of the brain first.
So you're working more thecerebellum, midbrain, brainstem
(22:10):
and cerebral medulla for thosebrain nerds that know the
specific cortexes of the brain.
So you're working those fourinitially to build strength, if
you will, in the brain, and thenyou can start working some of
the upper parts, thepost-sensory, premotor, et
cetera.
Janine (22:29):
Interesting, thank you and in one session you were
saying you were cured of longCOVID.
Typically do people buy apackage, or how does that work?
Dr. Cari (22:39):
Is it per session or yeah, and that session was a mix
of three different techniquesand that is truly, I would say,
the magic of what I do and whatwe do here.
Our chiropracticchemistologists tend to be
weavers of magic, because weweave specific techniques and
things that are needed for thatparticular person in that
(23:00):
particular moment.
That's the beauty of muscletesting, because the bodies and
the intelligence guides that.
So how do I usually see people?
I would say usually I'll planfor once a week or once every
other week, just depending onhow sick somebody is or not.
Now I tend to see reallycomplicated cases, unfortunately
(23:21):
.
I sometimes would appreciatejust a little simple headache or
low back pain or a littleallergy.
That would be nice, but yeah,so usually I don't see people
more than once a week, unlessthe only time I've ever done
that is actually helpingsomebody transition out of life,
and then time is literally ofthe essence and we're helping
them to transition and getaligned and OK in the best
(23:44):
possible way.
Wow and something.
Yeah, yeah, it's something.
Yeah, I can't say it's happeneda ton, but I have.
Really it's an honor in someway and it's super intense.
But I would say once a week sothat you have ample time to
integrate the work.
Sometimes somebody needs acouple of weeks to integrate
(24:04):
everything that's done.
Usually the sessions the firstsession is always an hour and I
use every minute of it, and thensome.
This is why I was late today,so I apologize and then follow
ups are usually 30 minutes.
Now if it's a baby or kids orsomeone that's been seeing me
for a while, usually I can do awhole lot in 15 minutes.
So it just depends.
(24:25):
But usually follow ups are 15and 30 minutes.
The goal is to get people onmaintenance.
So for some people I'm likeonce a month is great or once a
season, and other people I'llsay I'll see you in four weeks,
every three to four weeks isfine, and I'll say the minute I
hit three weeks is just too long.
Really, that two to three weekmark is more for me for
maintenance.
That feels best to me becausethey run their body real hard,
(24:47):
they run life really hard orjust stress or whatever.
So then I always say you bestand then you do what's right for
you.
And for some people are like Iknow you want me here every two
weeks, but the budget doesn'tallow for it and I just
literally don't have time, itbecomes stressful and it's less.
That would defeat the purpose.
We don't want to create morestress, so we just work with
what people can do.
Then, and maybe that is justonce a month, we'll still get
(25:10):
results.
It just might take a little bitlonger to get the results that
we're looking for.
Renee (25:14):
But it's okay as long as we're continuing to move.
And who might be somebody thatwould benefit from this?
Anybody with any digestiveissues, anybody with any stress
in their life, work, stress,whatever it is.
If you have just gas andbloating, I can absolutely tell
you that there's an old patternthere somewhere.
It could be what you're eating,it certainly could be dairy, it
certainly could be gluten, itcould be high histamine foods,
(25:35):
whatever, but that stuff alltranslates into your digestive
tract.
So for someone like you, janine, who's feeling so good, you're
gluten free, you're rocking it,you're feeling great, you've got
this great eating habit.
Now You're having joy back in.
What you're eating was just soimportant, right?
What if something else showedup for you now?
Because, as you shared with methings, it certainly could be
great for you to take a littletiptoe through the two of us
(25:58):
with a professional who knowshow to help you move that stuff
through.
And again, this is the wholepremise of this live is we all
need a partner.
Dr Cari said we need an army.
I'm with her on that, 100%.
Janine (26:10):
I believe that 100%.
I believe that 100%.
Yeah, you need a team and Ithink, people.
My best friend of, oh gosh, 37years I'm really aging myself,
but 37 years has now adopted anentire holistic health routine
for her husband and her familyno red dye, no gluten, no that
(26:30):
functional medicine to the max,because obviously what's
happening a lot of the times isnot working, and so when things
are failing to work intraditional medicine, I think
people are like all right, I'lldo whatever it takes.
Tell me what's wrong and how tofix it, and how I can feel
better and how I can live longerin the healthiest way possible.
(26:51):
Right.
Renee (26:52):
People want to.
Dr. Cari (26:53):
They want to 20 people could come in as you know this,
renee too 20 people could walkin with digestive issues, and
every single person, every oneof those 20 people.
There's a different root causeand reason for it, oh yeah.
Renee (27:06):
And it's not usually here's the answer.
Dr. Cari (27:08):
And yep, just take some digestive enzymes.
You're good to go bye, bye.
Yeah, it's not like you couldplay a role.
Sure, Would that help managethe symptoms.
While you get to the root causeof why that person might be
refluxing every time they eat,or as one here in here today.
She's like every time I eat Iburp.
Now and I think it's formultiple reasons and I do think
(27:31):
she might have a crater going on.
But in the meantime she needshelp digesting her food period
and a story.
So she needs tools to do someof those things.
But what's the reason it'shappening?
Renee (27:44):
And to your point earlier too, is about the supplements
are important, but they're waterwings.
It's not even like a life vest.
They're only water wings tokeep you floating.
Supplementation is important,but this is really where the
magic is for sure.
So now I think you're freezingagain, dr.
Janine (28:07):
Luke Hmastergoulop.
Dr. Cari (28:11):
No, not really.
Janine (28:13):
Yeah, let me, let's see, let me.
Can you do something on yourengine?
Yeah, I'm going to remove her.
Yeah, just removed her, just tomake sure.
I think we should do a part twoon this.
Dr. Cari (28:30):
Okay, we can carry.
Renee (28:32):
Yeah, because there is so much that I there's so much to
talk about with this, I know, Iknow I would love to have her on
again.
Yeah, part two, definitelyWe'll do a part two.
I feel bad They'll have to workon their band with maybe, or
get like a hotspot or something,or hardwire them or something.
Maybe they can have whoeverdoes their computers over there
to make sure that she doesn'tdrop out again for sure.
(28:54):
But yeah, so for those peoplethat are interested, like I said
, find your local chiropractor.
See if they do any kind of notjust muscle testing.
Qnrt is quantum neural resettechnique, any kind of she
mentioned lifeline technique.
There's 10,000 other ones.
But find what works for you Ifyou are looking for a partner in
your health, your localnutritionists, tummy whisperer,
(29:14):
digestive health specialists,physical therapist, whoever is
psychotherapist, whoever youneed to help put you on the path
so that you can keep movingforward.
Sometimes we're on the path andsometimes we're just coasting
and we're just stuck on the path, which is totally okay too, and
if we're stuck on the path,that's not a bad thing, right?
It's just letting us know.
Hey, who do we find to help us,push us forward Hard?
Janine (29:36):
to.
So yeah, so this is fascinating.
I had never heard of this QNRT.
Renee (29:42):
An acronym.
Janine (29:43):
I've that's what it's called.
I believe it's an acronym.
I've never heard of thatacronym before until today, and
most care it's done by mostchiropractic physicians.
Renee (29:50):
And just to touch for a minute on chiropractic,
everybody thinks of them as justfat crackers and they're not.
I want to stress the point thatchiropractic is really anatomy
and physiology married byneurology, again back to your
nervous system.
So when somebody like Dr Careyor a chiropractor can take the
pressure off your nervous systemby giving you a nice
chiropractic adjustment, thatalso helps their internal
(30:12):
terrain, your organs andeverything else work better.
So chiropractic kinesiology,better nutrition, better
hydration, better sleep and ifyour sleep is so messed up it's
because obviously I go right todigestion and drainals and
stress and it's the same loopthat we've been talking about
for the past 40 minutes.
Makes sense.
Oh, let me see here, let me see.
(30:34):
I'm trying to call her, she'strying to call me.
She's saying, yes, part two,part two.
But for people who areinterested, dr Carey owns Be
Optimal Health and Wellness inSkokie, illinois.
Like I said, they do.
They can do some remote stuff,of course.
All of my stuff is done,telehealth and remote.
I'm blessed and honored to haveclients from all over the
(30:57):
United States and medicaldoctors sending me their
patients, because the few thatsend know that the patients just
don't want to take acid refluxmedication and that's not the
fix anyway.
That's a possible symptomreliever for a moment, but it's
really shutting off yourdigestion.
We can talk for hours aboutthat.
But, yeah, but I again want tolovingly encourage everybody.
(31:17):
It's a new year.
Take charge, you know, ifnothing changes right.
So you have to make a littleeffort and you're worth it.
Your family is relying on you,your pets are relying on you,
your coworkers are relying onyou, and you need to take care
of yourself and don't use moneyas the excuse to not.
We have to invest in yourhealth.
(31:40):
It's an investment, not anexpense.
Janine (31:42):
So I'm off for so long.
There she is Dr Carey, I'm here.
Renee (31:51):
I just want to be optimized, gave your location,
it's okay.
Dr. Cari (31:55):
Oh, my God, hilarious.
I heard you say let's do a parttwo and I was thinking the same
exact thing, because it's moredigestible, than people will
have questions and that kind ofthing, and it's truly my joy
again to be able to offer thesupport and the information I
really.
Doctor in latin means to teach,so educate first, then treat,
because then that empowerspeople with tools also to like
(32:17):
really be able to navigate.
And the other thing I wanted tosay before I get freaking cut
off again so funny, I can hearyou and then you guys are like I
can't hear you, like I see you,I know what that is.
That nutrition piece is superfoundational.
It's like someone is superclean Can, has taken out
inflammatory foods and all that.
(32:38):
They can be fine tuned soquickly because you don't have
to clear the cobwebs in theclouds, because it really
already done their work to laythat foundation down from a
biochemical level.
It's so super important.
So like getting people toreally understand in general, I
talk about the five basics water, food, rest.
(33:00):
Exercise on your power withquality, quantity and frequent.
So good quality water, a greatquantity, right, have your body
weight announces or so, and withfrequency.
Keep the river running.
Food avoided the inflammatorystuff, the wheat, the sugar, the
corn, the soy, the dairy, thelike crap that just makes us
feel like crap literally andmaking sure that we get rest.
(33:23):
If you're not sleeping, you'renot restoring.
So if that's a problem, that'sgot to be our priority, you have
to get people sleeping.
It's such a big problem andit's ultimately just means
people's autonomic nervoussystems are not regulated.
They they don't know how tofire up the Paris and, pathetic
they don't know how to rest anddigest.
Well, they're constantly inthat fire to flight and they
can't seem to come down.
(33:43):
That's a big problem.
That also means you won'tintegrate healing.
You won't heal well, rightExercise, right when we're
moving, like more, more balancedeverything's more balanced in
our life or circulations.
Better, everything's better.
And there are ways to do it.
When you physically can't like,sitting in an infrared sonic
gives you a subtle, it gives thebody of physiological responses
(34:03):
.
If you're doing aerobicexercise when you're not, but
you're sweating and you'redetoxing at the same time, it'd
be very beneficial.
And then just owning your powerif you don't feel passionate
about something, then what's thepoint of getting out of bed and
trying to eat healthfully anddrink good quality water?
Right, it's just as importantto me as like all this other
stuff.
So, in general, when we haveaccess to doing sort of the five
(34:25):
basics and we are educated onhow to better do it, like that
is the foundation and now we canbuild off of it and start
clearing the subconsciousemotional stuff and supporting
it with homeopathy and vitaminsand supplements and things like
that.
So yeah, yeah, it was perfect.
Renee (34:40):
Yeah, no, very well said and I think, for and again, the
whole idea of this podcast wasto really help people just take
a step in, do something.
If you're going to go glutenfree or try to take dairy out or
something, and they havesomebody help you along with it,
so that you can really stepinto feeling like you're
partnering with somebody foryour health.
It is so important.
It's hard to do by yourself andI'm so grateful that I have the
(35:02):
team, that I have a village ofan army.
I've got army Navy, air ForceMarines.
I'm just super excited to getstarted on my Q and RT and I
think we're going to definitelyhave to do a part two because I
think this is motivating for alot of people.
Like Dr Perry said, I knowshe's frozen against public and
hear me, but people are going tohave questions, they're going
to have questions and we'lldefinitely do a part two and
(35:25):
this is just super exciting.
So, dr Kerry, thank you so muchfor taking time out of your
very busy day and busy practiceto be with me and Jeanine and
help give some information topeople who I think are going to
get excited about doingsomething great with their
health in 2024.
For sure.
Janine (35:41):
And please download, subscribe to the tummy whisperer
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We're on YouTube, follow, share, review on Apple, spotify or
your preferred platform.
With the podcast goes a longway.
We hope you learn something.
Renee is the best in her field.
She has helped me tremendouslywith the best of health.
I've gone through her programand so if you have any questions
(36:02):
, her information is below.
You can go to the tummywhisperer calm.
In the show notes there's alink that you can have a
consultation with her and we.
I did it all virtually.
I've lived in Florida.
She lives in Chicago or outsideof Chicago, illinois.
Renee (36:17):
I'm not going to go to Wisconsin, but yeah, or
Wisconsin, whatever, wherevershe's living today.
Janine (36:23):
The point is, we're 1000s of miles away and we were
able to.
She was able to help me, so shecan help you.
Renee (36:29):
Absolutely.
I absolutely can.
Thank you everybody forlistening.
See everybody in two weeks.
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