Embark on a transformative health journey with me, Renee Barasch, and my esteemed guest Dr. Cari Jacobson, as we unravel the intricate tapestry of holistic wellness. Prepare to discover the profound interplay between emotional well-being and physical health, and how our bodies whisper – or sometimes shout – for balance through symptoms. This episode is a treasure trove of insights, exploring the wonders of Quantum Neuro Reset Therapy (Q&RT) and its capacity to reshape our emotional and physical landscapes, with a special focus on the powerful influence of the hypothalamus.
Have you ever considered that your body's aches and ailments might be cries for help, signaling deeper imbalances? Dr. Cari and I dive into the holistic philosophy that looks beyond the surface, seeking to heal the root causes of health issues. From the remarkable benefits of supplements when used wisely, to the transformative potential of Q&RT, we cover the spectrum of proactive health practices. And if the thought of muscle testing seems daunting, our discussion will reveal its empowering aspects, demystifying the process and underscoring the value of tuning into your body's unique messages.
Concluding our wellness odyssey, we paint the picture of an idyllic health and wellness retreat, merging the best of homeopathic remedies, cutting-edge therapies, and the serene environment of a Caribbean getaway. Picture yourself basking in the healing powers of light therapy or learning about the health-boosting properties of quality olive oil. Join us as we contemplate the creation of this pinnacle of holistic care, designed to rejuvenate and revitalize the mind, body, and spirit. Whether you're seeking support from Dr. Cari's team or my virtual services, we are here to guide you toward a life of vibrant health.
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Renee (00:13):
Welcome everybody to the Tummy Whisperer podcast.
I am your host, renee Barish.
I'm very excited to piggybackon our last episode because
we're losing Dr Carrie with herstream, but we've got her
hopefully full time here todayfor our episode.
She's hardwired in Thanks toher wonderful husband, and I'm
so excited because I got so manyinquiries on our last episode
(00:35):
about how to roll out some newhealth in 2024.
People are curious about theirsymptoms.
They're curious about what theycan do to better themselves.
I'm sure there's a lot ofpeople that feel fine, but
there's more people that don'tfeel fine that can use some help
and some answers as far as howto better themselves, and
there's so many wonderful toolsand opportunities out there for
(00:57):
great practitioners to partnerwith you for your health.
So, as everybody knows, I dogut health and I help people
feel better in their tummy andtheir digestive system and
detoxification pathways and allthe things that slow down your
health.
So what does slowing down yourhealth look like?
Looks like symptoms, right, andmy mentor, dr Loomis, always
(01:19):
spells symptoms with dollarsigns at the front and the back,
because with your symptomsyou've got to pay money right to
your health care practitioners,to your doctors.
And how do we, how do we slowdown our symptoms and how do we
get into a place of balance andfeeling good?
So we're going to justpiggyback on Dr Carey's how she
started with, talking about theemotions and the chemistry and
(01:40):
how it all relates to how it alltranslates into how our body
expresses what it expresses,whether it's a gas, a bloating,
an emotion, a rash, a jointissue name it right Anything.
The body has such an innatewisdom and the body wants to do.
The body wants to be in balance.
(02:00):
We just have to give it thetools, we just have to give it
the right things, whether it'san essential oil to help change
your brain chemistry, or aflower essence, or a gluten-free
something that you're removingsome hard chemistry that your
body responds to.
So this isn't about taking awayreasons that your body responds
to things, but it's abouthelping your body stay in
(02:21):
balance through this toxic worldthat we live in, with unclean
water, bad air quality, shittyfood.
I won't go down the vaccineroute, but anyway there's a lot
of things that really mess usall up.
So in this episode we're goingto go forward and we're going to
just give you guys lots ofanswers and there's going to be
something for everybody.
(02:41):
So with that I'm going to turnit over to Dr Kerry Jacobson,
who is my dear friend, trustedcolleague, and I'll just also
let you guys know I was in heroffice last week for the first
time in a few years to get myown Q and R T from Dr Naomi and
it was just wonderful and I'lljust give you the quick version
(03:02):
of what I left with.
So she muscle tests, right,energy tests, to see what's
going on and where the blocksare.
And sure enough, one of thethings that came up was people
piss me off.
What a surprise.
So she's has me doing this,blowing out my mouth, testing,
raise my shoulder, spin threetimes, say the sentence and
before I'm doing it you havethis, you can feel it in your
body, like people piss me off.
(03:23):
And when I say it it's like,yeah, people piss me off, for
whatever reason, and that's justnormal.
So we go through the session, Iget done.
She has me repeat the thingsthat were that she found and the
first time I was saying it Icouldn't even get it out of my
mouth because I felt it in mybody and I was like, yeah, I
can't even.
I couldn't even finish thesentence got done with the
treatment.
Everything was flowing out andmy body just felt at peace.
(03:45):
So I walked out of the officefeeling like all my cells were
like back online.
And when I think about thesethings that maybe bother me,
it's like I almost can't getupset at like people's
shortcomings, like it's notreally about me and it is about
me, but their shit is not aboutme.
(04:06):
So how do you feel?
Okay with other people'smisgivings?
You just rewire your brain.
And that's one of the beautifulthings about Q&RT and I got to
experience it last week and I'mgoing next week and I'm bringing
my husband in for some marriagecounseling, also known as Q&RT.
So it was a wonderfulexperience.
And with that, dr Carey, justtake it away, just dive in and
(04:29):
just please tell everybody howyou help people and what you do
and yeah.
Dr. Cari (04:33):
So I opened the Optimal Holistic Health Center
in June of 2010 and I've been inpractice for about 17-ish years
as a doctor of chiropractic,and I generally say I'm a
chiropractic kinesiologist andholistic doctor because I'm
certified in practice probablyabout 20 different modalities
(04:53):
and it just allows me to accessthe body structurally,
biochemically, emotionally,energetically, and that when a
different aspect of the body orbeing is out of balance, the
rest of it falls.
So, as an applied kinesiologist, we look at the triad of health
and if one aspect of the triadis out of balance emotions,
structure, whatever the wholetriangle falls apart, kind of
(05:17):
thing.
So that's the holistic approach.
It allows me to get more to theroot cause and, generally
speaking, I say I don't treatthe symptom, I treat the body.
When the body's in balance,we're able to thrive.
So the symptom is just thesmoke signal that says yo,
there's a problem somewhere inthere.
And what I want to say is thatmore people and I don't know if
I've said this before with youguys, but more people spend more
(05:39):
money in the last few days oftheir life to try to stay alive
than they do their entire lifeto just be healthy, live more
vibrantly, and that's the truth.
People, generally they I hadpeople over at my place and
Renee and I have she's, I thinkyou beat me on supplements,
which I think, so I have aliteral apothecary in my, just
(06:00):
because we do so between myhusband and I and even my dog
like we have so many supplementsand they just accumulate and
it's insane.
But I always say, build up yourarsenal, have tools and
strategies and somebody or manypeople to support you to be in
that state of health,preventative health and wellness
.
So we just had Darrell had alike a training that happened.
(06:26):
He does something called poetrypals and it's about bringing
the youth of Jewish, christianand Muslim, Muslim youth
together to celebratedifferences and so they had a
training here and we have outthis monster cabinet with all
the supplements and all thethings and a couple of people
are like, oh my god, you guystake all of those things and
(06:46):
these are not all of them allthe time, but we have what we
take and then if we need things,it's here and it keeps us
healthy and well.
And it was such a new concept,literally it could not be barely
grasped.
Wait what?
Because this idea of actuallypreventing and helping build up
the body and build up thefoundation and prevent you from
(07:09):
getting sick, or that, ifeveryone around you is sneezing,
you might sneeze for a day, butloom your system just able to
what's it give yourself.
You start building your systemup and then, after a day or so,
you up your water, you up yoursupplements, you have a good
night's sleep and it's done.
It doesn't have to be a 10 daycold or a three week cold, like
a lot of people are experiencingnow.
It can be a couple of days andthen you're back up and down.
Renee (07:29):
Yeah and on top of that, if I may, dr Kerry, excuse me
for interrupting, but in termsof supplements, it is so
important to have an arsenal andI'll say I know Dr Kerry gets
this in her clinic I get it aswell.
So when people come to us withthe graveyard of supplements
that they're not sure what totake, they're not sure what's
working.
Empower your clients to helpthem understand how they can
muscle test themselves, have aprofessional muscle test you, or
(07:53):
help but know that you have anarsenal of your elderberry or
whatever you need, yourdigestive enzymes, your
probiotics, whatever it is, sothat you know what to take.
And help empower your clientsso that they can feel
comfortable.
They don't have to rely on you.
That's a huge part of how DrKerry and I both wanna help our
clients.
It's just about empowerment.
I love kicking people out of thenest.
Just go, be free, fly, have fun.
(08:13):
I'm here if you need me.
And it's so funny that youtalked about celebrating
differences.
Real quickly, mark's birthdaywas yesterday and I went to a
really cool shop in Crystal Lakeand I had a tarot card reading
and one of the cards wascelebrate differences and Dr
Kerry just said it today and I'mlike, holy moly, no surprises
here.
Anyway, carry on yeah.
Dr. Cari (08:31):
I was gonna say like the right thing at the wrong
time is the wrong thing, and alot of people come into my
office with a grocery bag fullof stuff from like Costco,
walgreens and the way that it'smanufactured.
They're not all created equallyCorrect.
The way that it's manufacturedfish oil especially.
It's super rancid more oftenthan not by the time it gets
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into your mouth, so you do needto know where it's sourced.
I have a whole store at theOptimal specifically, so I can
ensure that people are gettinggood quality supplements there's
.
I don't know if you have a fullscript account.
Renee (09:05):
Yeah, yeah, I do.
Dr. Cari (09:07):
I have full script.
You have full script so peoplecan probably find it in our bio
links and they can shop there.
So if you need a vitamin D orlike things that you think are
simple and easy vitamin B,vitamin D, a vitamin C get a
good quality one, becausevitamin C is sourced from corn
nine times out of 10 and corn issuper toxic.
It's one of the highest sprayedgrains out there.
Yeah, absolutely disgusting.
(09:28):
Yeah, and it was hybridizedbefore it was.
I could go on.
I hope it's not on corn, butanyway it was hybridized before
it was genetically modified.
So even when it says non-GMO,it's still super chaotic from a
biological point of view and itcan super mess you up.
So gluten free doesn't mean goeat a bunch of corn, which a lot
of things are made of corn whenthey're gluten free.
(09:50):
So you have to be mindful andunderstand and be educated to
really get where things aresourced and not.
And again, if you don't, you'retalking to Renee or you're
talking to someone like me orone of the doctors in our office
, because or listen to our freehealth classes.
It doesn't have to cost moneyto educate.
There's so much greatinformation.
There's a lot of shitinformation out there too,
though.
(10:10):
People.
Renee (10:10):
There is too.
And then even in terms ofsupplement even Dr Carey's
mentioning take a good B vitamin.
They do testing in their officefor methylation and just real
quickly go down that rabbit holeso you can take the wrong B
vitamin.
Because if you don't what'scalled down, regulate or clear
certain B vitamins, you it'salmost like you guys remember
that I always explainmethylation like this do you
always remember the toy, theslinky that?
(10:32):
So methylation is the samething as a slinky.
When the slinky gets caught onone of the stairs and it doesn't
go forward, that's your livernot clearing what it needs to
clear.
So, dr Carey's office, they canmuscle test for methylation.
They can do energy testing formethylation.
They can do actual testing formethylation to see if you need a
little more B6, at a littleless B12 or a type of B12.
(10:54):
That is super, super importantwith supplements.
I definitely say don't takesupplements willy nilly, don't
guess, test and talk to aprofessional in terms of your
supplementation.
So off my soapbox.
Dr. Cari (11:05):
I love.
Janine (11:08):
Too, and I think to interject.
That's such a great pointbecause so many people have this
.
It's funny, like you weresaying, start to carry.
You're like people just payattention towards the end of
their life but they make Excusesas to why they're not taking
supplements.
Because they're probably takingnumber one, the wrong ones and
(11:29):
they're not seeing a changebecause they're not getting the
dosage that they need.
They're not getting the correctsupplementation that they need
and people just don't know whatthey don't know.
Dr. Cari (11:37):
So unless they're seeing A specialist in that
field that can help them withthat, they're going to have a
salty taste in their mouth aboutTaking something because they
just don't know they don't know,and then they'll blame genetics
and I'm like no, genetics isthe blueprint, and Dr Bruce
Lipton wrote the biology belief,and the way he describes it is
that If everything that wasgenetic Expressed, it would be
(12:02):
like this oh, look at that pieceof land.
I have a blueprint of abuilding that I want to build.
Let me throw the blueprint onthe land and I'm going to drive
back tomorrow and the buildingwill be built.
But that's actually how itworks.
It's perfect.
So much time to write.
You've got to get the metalsand the woods and the nails and
the people and the building andthe, and it's months and years,
(12:24):
and months and years and to likeactually get that to happen.
So a lot has to take placebefore that genetic imprint
actually shows.
So a lot of people make a lotof excuses.
It mostly comes, unfortunatelyand I don't mean this from
judgment, but from ignorance,because they don't know what
they don't know, just like yousaid, and yeah, it's fascinating
(12:44):
.
There was something else Iwanted to say, but oh, I love
what you said about the wholeslinky thing and then I wanted
to divert a second.
So the methylation piece isreally interesting and pretty
much it goes to our geneticimprint as I was talking about
genetics there that we havespecific what's called genetic
(13:06):
snips that either express ordon't express, or are available
to us or just don't really workin us.
So some people, as you weresaying, methylate or break
things down very efficiently,and other people, a lot of
people, have thrown up the mthfr like that's a snip.
So that's one that people tendto know about, and if that you
don't have mth fr, you don'tmethylate well, you can't
(13:28):
detoxify well.
Those are the people that tendto be extra sensitive to toxins
like A shot or a medicine or orsomething like that, because
they can't get rid of the toxiccomponents Efficiently and
effectively.
So then the question is how dowe get to the root cause on a
biochemical level?
And that's this jade on'smethylation work that we do.
(13:50):
It's super interesting.
It's a little bit slow andsteady.
When's the race on that one?
In terms of that, there areways that I can cut in to find
primary toxin and help themHandle the toxin while we're
getting their genetics toactually work for them.
But, just like you said for a bvitamin, some people over
methylate and so if you take amethylated b vitamin, it
(14:11):
actually can create more toxinyou might need, like the adeno
hydroxy b vitamin, so it's adifferent form that allows your
body to utilize it.
And that's where I also amsaying like it's not all created
equally.
You need to really understandthe biochemical components of
how your specific body breaksthings down or doesn't, and then
we find very specificallywhat's going to actually make
(14:34):
your body run more efficientlyso that you're less likely to
get sick all the time, havedigestive issues all the time,
like whatever it may be.
Renee (14:43):
Yeah, and it's and very well put and it's so true.
And just to piggyback on whatwe were saying earlier, I always
tell my clients pay now foryour health or pay later.
You're paying out for yourorganic and your practitioner
and be healthy and enjoy yourlife, or pay later, when you're
in a tailspin and maybe youcan't even get out of it.
Dr. Cari (15:00):
So Spend money now that much longer to get out of
it.
So it's like if you're drivinga car and your check engine
light goes on and you're like,oh, that's really annoying to
look at that light, so you'relike, fucking, I'm gonna ignore
it.
But you keep driving.
It's really annoying.
So you're like you know what?
I'm pulling over to the side ofthe road, I'm just gonna cut
the wire to that light.
Good idea?
(15:21):
Not right, because we do that alot, though, with our own body.
So we cut the wire to the lightand we keep driving our car and
what's gonna eventually happen?
It will break down.
Your engine will break down onthe side of the road it
now not only do you have to callfor a tow truck, freakin, get a
brand new engine or whatever,because the whole thing just
(15:42):
fried, because you ignore this,the thing that just all it
needed was some oil, right, andso on and so forth, so like it
could have been a five to tenminute thing and they just
greased it up and Reconnectedwhatever they need to reconnect,
and then light goes off, boom,boom, everything's great.
Or it could be thousands ofdollars, many days or weeks or
months, and then it still mightnot run that great because it
(16:06):
just super fried.
Yeah, we do that to our bodyand we're like you know what I'm
gonna ignore.
It's normal for me to getheadaches every day, so that's
cool, so I'm just used to it, somaybe it'll go away.
Five most dangerous words andthen.
And then it's just like thesymptoms are ignored.
So then the body startsscreaming louder.
So now I'm bloaty, whatever,I'm always bloaty after I eat,
so I'll just eat a little bitdifferently.
(16:27):
Gee, I'm still bloaty, but nowI'm really hurting and I'm super
constipated.
That's okay, I'll just ignorethat.
And so then it just keeps.
Your body will just start toscream and scream.
Now You're not pooping.
So now the toxins areoverloading into your body.
Now you start to now yourjoints hurt because your whole
system is inflamed.
Your whole system's inflamedand now you have arthritis.
People live with arthritis foryears, decades, and never have
(16:51):
any pain.
Arthritis doesn't necessarilyhave to equate to pain, right,
it just does when every all thesystems are go and they're
basically trying to tell you todo something about it.
And if we don't know that everytime we eat we're fueling the
fire because we're eatingrefined sugar and gluten and
corn and Dairy, then we don'trealize that literally were the
(17:16):
problem and we, right, it's itand and and so many people don't
even realize with joint painthat it mostly unless there's
any kind of Direct trauma thatcomes from the gut usually most
of the time.
Renee (17:31):
And two, in terms of dr Kira, is mentioning your
genetics and your genes and howthese things turn on.
These genetics, these geneticsnips, turn on in our body from
our diet, our environment, ouremotions.
This is how the body turns onall these things that now create
, maybe, a detoxificationpathway impairment.
When I had my q and r t with drNaomi and I'm super excited for
(17:54):
my appointment next week I feltlike my, like she helped me
detoxify my emotions, notturning them off, but helping my
body down, regulate this, thesepathways, this, this shit,
right.
So it's the same thingbiochemically in the body if
you've got these all of a suddenimpairments where your body
can't get rid of waste.
Look at your diet, look at yourenvironment, look at your
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emotions.
It's all part of it, right?
Dr. Cari (18:18):
and I have to say number one what you do is so
important, renai, because thatfoundational piece of really
getting digestive health andgetting the diet right Is the
foundation of health, becausethe fuel we put in affects how
we function and if we eat crap,we feel like crap and if we want
to eat well for our body, weget to function amazingly.
(18:42):
And it makes my work so mucheasier because I educate on that
.
But it takes a while to findthe rhythm of that and have
someone hold me accountable andgive you so I've got recipes and
I've got this, but like where Ican thrive is really going
deeper beyond that.
That's foundational, yeah, andpeople miss that because, listen
, the digestion, that gut health, is that gut brain connection.
(19:04):
So many people are brain foggy,they can't sleep well at night,
they are Consipated or havediarrhea or get bloating and
gassy, like I said.
Then you get a backup of toxinsthat just adds to a whole
stream of symptoms anddiscomfort.
So that piece of gut health islike legit, so important.
(19:25):
So I just want to drive thathome because your work is so
very important and like reallycreating that foundation.
Renee (19:32):
Yeah, thank you.
It's a piece, the part of thetriad right.
You can't have one without theother.
Dr. Cari (19:35):
You got to have it all it's true, it's true, but it is
really foundational.
And the other piece is that Iwanted to just share that q and
r t because we talked about itlast time but the people that
haven't listened to that partone yet quantum neuro reset
therapy.
Quantum neuro reset therapy,and essentially what it does is
it allows the brain Guide theprocess.
(19:57):
The brain works very linearlyand it allows us to access the
lobe of the brain because, likerena, you're a loving, yummy
person.
You want to love people.
So the fact that you have beenrunning, though, with a program
of people piss me off, it's notyour nature.
It's a reactive survivalpattern, not really like you're.
The true essence of you is notthat, like you, like walk around
(20:19):
and you're like people piss meoff and not really you're not an
angry person.
And yet when we find ourselvescharged up and in that state of
I want to literally killeveryone, everyone's thoughts,
like fuck everyone andeverything, there's a.
It's like what's?
I always say.
Like when I get really chargedand I'm like Where's this really
coming from?
I need to put my arm up on that.
I need to get muscle tested.
I need to find out what's theroot of why I'm in this reactive
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place, because this is notbalanced, this is not love, and
and who I am from that truespace we all are, I really
believe Comes from this place oflight and love.
But when we're not there, what'sreally going on?
It could be a genetic imprintthat you came in with, so it's
literally all you've ever known.
You're like, nope, that's me.
It just is, I'm an asshole andI blah, blah, blah and that's
(21:02):
how I run and it's like when isthat really coming from?
So when you can access thatcortices of the brain, the
cortex of the brain, the cranialnerves associated, the emotions
associated according to thehypothalamus, and the different
reflex points, and reset it allat the same time, it is
literally magic.
And I had some of my men forvery first time ever.
(21:26):
I never had she been treatedand she came because she was
excited about q&r t and I waslike let's rock it.
We said for decades I've beenin so much pain I can barely
walk, but I love living inactive life and she actually
lives that foundational piece.
She coaches people on nutrition.
Renee (21:42):
Nice and.
Dr. Cari (21:44):
But she was in a ton of pain, like her feet killed,
and I was like let's just see ifthere's a brain component.
I'm dealing with the feet andthe hands that just keep you up.
You literally wake her up atnight.
They're so painful.
I said let's just see.
I'm curious.
And sure enough there was, onboth pain and inflammation and
red light, green light.
So we usually have to enter andWhatever we cleared, I don't
(22:06):
know it went super deep, thoughFoundational.
The first several Q and R T'sare always going to be
foundational, the lower portionsof the brain, and what I mean
by that is the cerebellum, themidbrain, the brainstem or
cerebral medulla, and becausethe brain needs to access that
first before you go into theupper portion.
So anyway, we finished andshe's literally the pain has
(22:27):
decreased and we did all thesemuscle tests and they were
strong where they were weakbefore and she's, I'm like,
literally feeling more space inmy body, my body's not hurting
as much and as she moved throughthe week, less and less, no
disruption in her sleep.
This is just one session.
This is the magic of Q and R T.
It is literally the mostprofound work I've ever done it
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is it is.
Renee (22:50):
That is such a beautiful story and, if I may piggyback on
that, yeah, I've been havingissues with my lungs for about a
year and a half.
It's quite scary.
I feel like I can finally getair into my lungs and I know
there's a huge emotionalcomponent to it and that is
absolutely just beyondprofoundly scary when I'm having
to put a pulse ox on my fingerto see if I'm dying Right and
(23:12):
now.
And there's a hormonal piece.
There's an emotional mechanism.
But one of the things Dr Naomishared with me when she tested
me she said you're highfunctioning but you're exhausted
and I'm like that resonatesright Because I'm just on go.
But she rejiggered the part ofmy brain that needed it, she
said.
She explained how some peoplestart with a different part, but
(23:33):
I had that intact.
So she went to the next placeand it was very foundational.
Like I said, I just feel likelife is completely different
from just that one session.
And Dr Currier is mentioningthere's an air traffic control
center in the brain called thehypothalamus, which is, in my
world, responsible for yourcravings and what you want to
eat and all that kind of stuff.
(23:54):
So I always tell my clients yourcravings and your hunger
doesn't come from your stomach,it's your brain saying, hey
tongue, go get that chocolateand you're like, yes, I'm on it.
So when you can have reallygood brain functioning, firing
and having it work the way it'ssupposed to work, that's what's,
in my professional opinion, myhonest personal opinion that's
(24:17):
how your body starts to thrive.
It really comes from the harddrive from the brain, and the
brain is that's what sends thesignals to everything else in
your body.
So when you can rewire thatbrain and help lift off some of
that wiring or change it so thatthe brain is firing properly,
everything can go back intoplace.
In fact, I was just talkingwith a dear colleague this
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morning that Dr Kerry and I know, and I think she's going to be
bringing her daughter over to DrNaomi for a foot issue for some
Q and RT, and I'm excited tosee how she does with that.
Dr. Cari (24:46):
So yeah, it does literally change the wiring and
it releases it.
It releases it, it allows spacefor you to actually function,
because when there's trauma ofany kind of just any symptom
doesn't necessarily mean there'sa brain component.
So Dr John Turner, who createdthis, created it from major
(25:06):
accidents that he was involvedin.
He had the best physical workever.
He was not getting well.
He could barely functionthrough a day or even a half a
day, and he ended up downloadingthis work and creating it
through studies and so on andhis whole thing was like if it
was physical it would have fixed.
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But my brain is holding on tothe trauma and it will do that
to help us survive and cope.
So when we can release thetraumas, when we can release the
patterns that are held there tohelp us survive, thinking that
it's doing a great thing for ourbody and our life.
But really it's actuallykeeping us in a trauma cycle and
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it's keeping us in the symptom.
When it can clear and release,your body's actually able to
heal and amazing things happen.
So just because you have asymptom, it doesn't mean there's
a brain component.
So we always check to see Now.
It doesn't mean that as weclear other things.
It won't release the actualthing that's happening in that
part of the body.
But, like I said, I lookdirectly at the foot and the
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hands to see is there a braincomponent?
And there was with thatparticular patient.
But there have been times whereI go over this hip thing or the
SI joint or the sciatica andit's like there's not a brain
component, which tells me thatit's probably more physical.
There could be some emotionalstuff, but we've got to get the
physical right first.
So the body will always guidewhat it needs.
And it is really fascinating,but it is.
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It's an incredible release, youknow.
Renee (26:32):
It is, and on the emotional component too, I've
done a lot of work on myself.
A lot of people do a lot ofwork and they don't want to
revisit the trauma.
And this work doesn't have yourevisited, it just fucking
removes it.
It's done, yeah.
Dr. Cari (26:45):
The one thing is like balls to the wall the biggest
go-getter that there ever wasand she constantly struggles in
her finances and she affirms andshe coaches people and she's
legit, she is baller, shecreates, she's a mega creator,
but for whatever reason, she'salways blocked to move next
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level on a financial space.
We weren't working on finances,we were just seeing where her
brain guided.
Sure enough, it was a geneticcomponent.
It went back a few generationson one of her family sides and
it was really wrapped into thispart of her that did not feel
worthy of experiencingprosperity.
It wasn't abundant.
She was good with abundanceprosperity.
Renee (27:28):
Interesting.
Dr. Cari (27:29):
It went really deep and I was like honey, you could
affirmation all you want, youare never going to get there
because the way too deep.
It was a deep seated programthat had to be reprogrammed for
her to realign to really who sheis, and I am going to be very
curious to see what she's ableto create.
This just happened like acouple of days ago.
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Yeah, to see what she's able tonow create because she's a
go-getter.
She doesn't sit on her ass likethe world should just bring me
prosperity.
She works her ass off.
She's out there inspiring andigniting and creating people to
be more ambitious and yet she'slike running into walls.
What is that?
That's?
Renee (28:10):
so nice.
Dr. Cari (28:11):
It wasn't a match.
She was like what's reallygoing on?
It was beyond her.
But it was in grains.
I'm a failure.
I'm a legit failure, and that'swhat was running as the
survival.
Renee (28:21):
And it's so interesting that you bring that up too,
because there's nobody in thisworld that doesn't have some
kind of stress.
So it's emotional, financial,whatever it is.
And really changing that brainchemistry is such a beautiful
thing to be able to help themreceive release.
And the testing that you guysdo is not only saying, hey, it
might not be the brain.
If there is a hip issue, ifthere is a spine and neck issue,
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maybe it is a structuralcomponent.
It does address the structurefor sure, but always check back
with the brain because more thanlikely, with doing this work
that you do, is it safe to saythat a lot of stuff goes back to
the brain?
What do you think?
Dr. Cari (28:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah , yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah,
and actually you were talkingabout muscle testing.
Dr Naomi is teaching a muscletesting class in person.
Unfortunately, you can't takeit online because it's so
tangible.
Yeah, but it's like her thirdclass that she's teaching, back
by popular demand.
People are going crazy becausethey want to learn how they too
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can access and really be able totest what works for them or not
.
And then, once she finishesthis, we're going to set an
advanced class so people cantake it.
Yet another step further, but Ibelieve it's February 11th.
It's on the be optimalcom.
It's on our classes page, as wehave a whole calendar of events
.
Yes, so, yeah, so people canfind it there and register.
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I think there's a handful ofspots left, but it literally
sells out every time.
So, if you want it, yeah, Iknow it's not that expensive.
I think it's 35 bucks or some40 bucks.
Yeah, and it's like a Sundayafternoon, your Sunday morning,
I think.
Renee (29:50):
Oh fun.
I think that's a great way forpeople who aren't sure, because
so many doubters like I don'tthink I'm doing it right and
it's your net.
There's no wrong way to do it.
You get your answer how you getyour answer.
Dr. Cari (29:59):
So but you just got to feel it, because the skeptics
are like, yeah, that looksfucking weird, there's no way,
and it's, yeah, it does.
Renee (30:07):
But come feel it, you'll see, and if you're doing it if
you're doing it organically andfor the betterment of the person
.
And I actually go back to thestory.
My husband was at some kind ofseminar and somebody was up on
stage telling some multi-levelmarketing product and he the guy
brought somebody else up onstage and did muscle testing and
it was just a shit show it was.
He was getting all the wronganswers because he was trying to
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sell him something and it wasembarrassing.
So when you come at it from areal, genuine place, like Dr
Carrie and her team does, oftrying to help and get the
answers with no practitioneragenda, no bias, none of that
Just the conduit of what doesthis person need?
Not only do you get clear,organic answers right, you're
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able to help guide that personand help direct them and help
empower them for their betterhealth.
It's just so important there's.
You can't just rely on yourpractitioners, you have to be
self-sufficient.
We are here to light the wayfor people.
We're here to give you ideasand hope and help and share
laughs and tears and all thestuff that we do as
practitioners right.
But we want to guide the wayfor you so that you can make it
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down your path and we're alwayshere for you guys.
I mean, dr Carrie loves doingwhat she does.
It's clear she wouldn't be inpractice 17 years.
I'm coming up on my 20th year.
I still love what I do.
It is just such a joy whenpeople say I have been feeling
so poorly and just this onedietary change, I'm sleeping and
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I'm.
I don't have to worry aboutwhere the bathroom is and I've
got my life back.
Dr. Cari (31:38):
I think Renee almost bring it back home to from the
beginning of like, how are wemoving into 2024 to be healthier
?
And I think one of the thingsthat I've chosen to do for me is
how can I show up to lovemyself more today?
And if I love myself and youcan look at it from the triad if
I'm showing up to love myselftoday, what do I choose to do
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for myself, my body structurallytoday?
Does it feel good to move itand exercise?
What kind of exercise?
You know what?
I'm feeling a little tired, Ithink.
Just a brisk walk and gettingfresh air in nature, that feels
good.
Or I feel like I need to sweatmy ass off.
I'm going bald to the wall.
I'm going Peloton I'm going to.
Or it feels really good to sitin the infrared sauna.
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I need to sweat out the toxins.
I just feel disgusting afterthe weekend of partying or
whatever it's like.
How do I show up to love myselfstructurally, how?
How do I choose to show up tolove myself biochemically, like
what do I choose to eat?
And I've been meaning to getthat air purifier or that water
purification system, like I'mgoing to bite the bullet today.
That feels very important.
I'm going to put good qualitywater in my body.
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It makes up 70 to 90% of mybody and brain.
Why would I not put in goodquality water that's loving for
me?
I'm going to choose to do that,so it's like showing up for
yourself.
And then how do I choose toshow it for myself, lovingly?
On an emotional level, do I feelextra stress?
Should I color in a coloringbook?
Should I do a guided meditation?
Should I pick up someJodhisthvensa, or do I want to,
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whatever it may be?
Or do I want to schedule anappointment with someone like
myself who can practiceneuromotional technique or Q and
R, t or any of these otheremotional techniques that can
support things that just aren'tmaking sense?
You just know you're stressedand things are not great.
Right, how can, again, movinginto 2024, how can I show up to
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love myself just a little bitmore?
Renee (33:29):
And for me, yeah, and if you can't, if you're like, no, I
don't need to do anything,that's a big red flag.
That's where you start callingbe optimal health and wellness
and let them get you bitchslappy into something, because
if nothing changes and you canhave fear around trying to move
into health, the financial piecethat I got to do the work I
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don't know what to eat, oh myGod, just too much.
No, fuck it.
Like I'm not going to do it.
Dr. Cari (33:53):
You could get busy living for death, or you can get
busy living for life.
No, and it's like I brought upto someone, hey, and I was being
reserved.
I was actually beingconservative because I knew what
they really needed was once aweek and I thought, just commit
to coming in once a month.
And the answer was, oh my God,once a month is so much, that's.
And I'm like, wow, if that'stoo much, I was reserved.
I think you should come once aweek.
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You're a disaster.
But okay, if that's too muchshit, we're probably in a big
trouble here because, right,you're very busy Living for
death, very right, living fordeath.
Renee (34:29):
and the old saying right If you don't make time for your
health, we'll make time for you.
All the, all the sayings thatDr I have.
I mean it's great and we're notand we're not here to throw
metaphors at you guys Like thisis just about getting quiet for
one minute.
If you get, if everybody gotquiet for one minute of the day,
in the morning or after lunchor whenever you have one minute
and just think what do I, whatcan I do for myself?
(34:52):
Maybe I'm going to take oneminute of meditation, because
all I can do in a day Great, doone minute.
Maybe I'm going to spray aflower essence that takes what?
Two seconds?
I mean something Right.
And if you're stuck and youdon't want to do something again
, red flag reach out for help.
Let somebody partner with youand your health, let somebody
guide you, let somebody shinethe light for you so that you
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can move into optimal health.
Dr. Cari (35:14):
Yeah, and if I may just share a little bit about my
center, please, yeah, we havethree, including myself, three
chiropractic kinesiologists.
I've got a Chinese medicinedoctor who actually certified in
something called synergetica.
He's the only one, I think, inthe States or in the Midwest
that that does synergetica.
Renee (35:34):
Which is can you?
Janine (35:35):
what is that?
Dr. Cari (35:36):
I can only explain it, semi, because I don't do it,
but it uses he's sort of likemirror things and it I've never
felt it totally shifts the wayyour energy moves and rebalances
the meridians in your body.
He is gifted.
You can try out like a minisession with him and that alone
like does it?
Dr J R is super brilliant.
He has a PhD in Chinesemedicine.
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He got in China, he lived inChina, he speaks like five
languages.
The guy's brilliant.
He's really quite amazing, j R.
He does Chinese medicine.
We have Dr Jason Penchick, who'sa nurse practitioner.
He does peptides, including,like the latest semi-glutide
stuff right, really helpingpeople to stay their life.
There have been a handful ofpatients it's it's night and day
difference where it was justnon-negotiable and they needed
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help.
Now Semi-glutides the answerfor that, in my opinion.
And then IV nutrition.
He does a bioidentical hormones.
We do ozone nasal, auricular,anal, vaginal, as well as IV
ozone which can kill bacteriaand fungus and moles and just
all those things.
It's incredible and at leastthat's what we find.
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Okay, I think clinically it'spretty powerful.
And then we have a foot detoxlady who helps to detoxify all
the crud, the dead cells out ofyour body.
This is right, this is ourcrazy Italian lady.
She's amazing.
And then we have a bunch ofdifferent light therapies and
one of the things we have amassage therapist and so on, but
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one of the things that therewas a guy that had a near death
experience and when he came backyou basically said humans are
depleted of light energy andwhat really allows us to thrive
and regenerate is light.
And this was way like decadesago, before the whole light
therapy, red light therapy,whatever was like a fad.
Right now it's a fad, but it'sa solid fad, because the truth
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is humans are depleted of light.
We don't get enough.
We're inside more, there's allkinds of weird weather things
that we just don't get as muchsun Right, and we need light to
generate instead of regenerate.
So he came up with what wasinitially called dream spots,
now called the origin light.
It has red, blue, amber andinfrared light that comes in.
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It comes over your head like ahelmet, it comes through your
face, like your eyes, basically,and it feeds the mitochondria
of your cells.
We also have something calledTherafi, which I think I
mentioned before, which alsofeeds life, giving light, giving
energy in a very powerful way,creating a cold plasma field.
It's very quantum nerdy but Ilove it.
It's the quantum physics piece.
Renee (38:12):
It's.
Yeah, so you said thatgentleman was the guy that made
the dream spot.
I know the dream spots.
Dr. Cari (38:17):
Yeah, it looks like a little dome and so, and then
another company, yeah, so Ican't remember the guy's name.
It's like on the tip of mytongue.
So I came into invent it, but hehad a near death experience and
that is how it came to be.
So I first learned about it Ithought it was the biggest hunk
of bunk.
I was like this is whack.
I was so skeptical because tome I'm putting my Carrie J stamp
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of approval Like I need to knowthat it's solid, and I just
thought it was the weirdest.
Two years later I saw this guythat was using it every day and
I was in mid sentence.
I was like David, you lookyounger and he's like oh, I am.
I'm like what he's like?
We use dreams for every day andI'm telling you, this guy is
environmental sensitive.
You've never died as hair, ever.
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He would die.
His hair went from gray to darkagain.
Renee (39:05):
Yeah, I'm painting on the stuff on my grays because I
don't want to talk about it.
Dr. Cari (39:12):
I'm telling you, he, yeah, he, I don't have gray, but
he his ring, he didn't have thesame amount of wrinkles.
I was like what?
Renee (39:19):
is happening.
I mean that's, yeah, that's.
And do you now?
Do you offer that in youroffice?
Dr. Cari (39:23):
Yeah, so then his partner was like oh, carrie, I
thought my eyes were gettingworse and I went to get them
checked.
It turns out they corrected sothat she was almost 20, 20, and
she had the worst vision for thelongest time.
But doing this every day, herbody stopped degenerating and
started regenerating.
And where it showed up for herFirst like really like where she
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really noticed, was hereyesight.
And after that conversation Iwas like all right, I'm in, I'll
buy one.
Yeah, that's the winter bluesand people that have seasonal
defective disorder and reallystruggle in the wintertime.
Renee (39:57):
Huge, when you get light therapy, it totally 180s it, not
only is it regenerative, ithelps with opening up cell
cellular health and probablydetoxification, like for me, my
I said I know is from my liver,like my floaters are from my
liver.
So again it's detoxification,emotions everything that I'm
working on.
But I love what you saidearlier about the ozone therapy
(40:17):
I have.
I know Dr Heria sees a ton ofpatients.
I see a lot of clients with alot of vaginal issues,
undiagnosed bladder pain andUTIs that are not UTIs or not
infections but doctors going tothrow the antibiotics at it.
Anyway, but for me, helpingpeople with a lower histamine
diet and helping them that wayto remove some of that stress.
But when the vaginal biome andall the microbiomes are out of
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balance and remember, guys, yourvaginal biome for us women is
an extension of your microbiomeright, everything goes down.
So if you got crotch issues,look at the gut.
But if you need extra help andyou need something like specific
there, the ozone therapy soundslike it could be a wonderful
tool, but vaginosis is verydifficult to get rid of.
Dr. Cari (41:00):
For women it tends to be Like I think, if you do it a
couple times a week, three timeswould be ideal, but a couple
times a week, like I want to sayI think Dr Jason said like at
least six to eight times, it canliterally handle it.
Renee (41:16):
Like for me, I full transparency, I struggle with
issues down under and I've got,I feel I see like I have an
autoimmune crotch and my stufflike goes there right Physical
abuse, sexual abuse.
Of course something's going toland there, and I would
definitely be interested intrying some different chemical
makeup for myself down there aswell too.
Dr. Cari (41:37):
So you can actually insert Megaspore into the
vaginal canal, which is asporobiotic.
Yeah, I have one of the thingsthat Dr Tom Bain, who created
microbiome labs in Megaspore.
He basically said don't usecoconut oil, it actually creates
leaky gut and a lot of thesolacellates, right, yeah, he
said in order to create a leakygut in the dogs, in dogs in
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order to, like, see if theycould fix it, they just fed him
a lot of coconut oil andeverybody thinks it's like the
best thing ever.
He told me people use it.
I don't use it.
Yeah, he just use olive oil.
Or you can use water.
Yeah, just whatever.
When you're inserting, Iactually use beef towel, yeah,
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so there it is, but you canthrow in.
Janine (42:20):
I have a suggestion for both of you, ladies.
So I am willing to likeliterally go in the cold just to
utilize your services.
I think what's stopping both ofyou from doing a retreat where
it's just like a wellness,because they have yoga retreats,
they have like women's retreat,but can we just do a week long
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like people just flying fromeverywhere and they get
digestive health?
They get a little of this, alittle of that.
And they are reborn again.
Yes, that sounds good.
Dr. Cari (42:52):
Yes, I'm into it.
Are you guys familiar withEdgar Casey?
Renee (42:56):
Of course I am yes, of course.
So do you know, Edgar Casey.
Dr. Cari (42:59):
I've heard the name Okay.
So he was way ahead of his timeand actually he channeled.
I thought he was crazy orwhatever, but he channeled in
information.
People would call him.
He would basically channel inand say you go to the store, to
the back of the store, and onthis second shelf, just to the
left of a red bottle, you'llfind this medicine and that's
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going to cure you.
And like it did, it was nothing.
No one could cure this personand it was just stuff like that.
I could go on and on.
It's so cool.
I've just read a lot.
I've read a lot of Edgar Caseyand he ended up creating like a
health center, basically on thesea, like I want to say, in the
Carolinas maybe I think so, yeah, and it was just like a very
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beautiful setting.
And he would just channel in andhe would say you need three
chiropractic adjustments a weekand you need to get acupuncture
and you need to only eat this,and then people would just stay
there until they got healthy andthey would be like rolling,
crawling, not be able to walk,not be able to talk, not be able
to whatever, and in a few weeksthey would be able to like walk
, run, jump and their health wasback.
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But he had a whole team ofdoctors and people so that
whatever they were needing, theywould be able to get all that
healing and health there.
So they would sleep there andthe whole thing.
And really it was this wholeretreat for them to just find
wellness and health.
And again this was like waylike hundreds of years ago.
Renee (44:21):
Yeah, and there are places like that it's a vision
of mine.
Dr. Cari (44:25):
I've always been like I need to do that.
And did I know Edgar Casey orWeBuddies?
Maybe did I?
Probably.
It feels so familiar to me.
But when you say that, janine,I'm like, yeah, I want to do
that, I would love to do that.
People just need to pay, yeah.
And a lot of people are like,why is this?
No, I have to be able to likesupport.
What I would do if I'm in myoffice and it creates people are
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like I just it needs to cost 80bucks and it's.
I'm literally giving $10,000worth of stuff.
It's got to be worth at least athousand or whatever.
So I'm super down with doingsomething, but it is a lot to
carry.
Like I have a homeopathicpharmacy, I have all my store.
I have like the laser lightsand the GRT lights and my blocks
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and all the flower essences,like three different kinds in
the whole entire thing.
So I want to be able to givepeople what they need and what
they desire.
But I would rock a retreat anyday, anywhere, warm and
delicious, like the Caribbean.
Yes, I would rock a retreat atthe optimal too, and do it like
for a full weekend or week andjust have it be where people
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could come and like super goodto just pay to get all the
things that whatever they need.
Yeah, you can charge all thethree to five K or whatever.
Like you can pick up boxes orwhatever they need.
Renee (45:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's like different shared packages or
whatever.
Janine (45:42):
I would fly to Illinois to do this.
Dr. Cari (45:45):
Yeah, renee, you had to get your ass into be optimal?
Renee (45:48):
I will, I definitely.
I would love it.
Bring little talks on nutritioncan take that load off the
optimal.
They do all that there too, butthat's they don't need to do
that part, they can do theirstuff, I'd much rather have
someone who's super.
Dr. Cari (45:58):
That's your passion and you can walk people through
and hold their hands, becausethat's not what I love to do.
I can tell them.
But then they're like oh my God, but I'm freaking out, I need
recipes and I need it.
I'm like go see Renee, but thatwould be so much fun.
Renee (46:13):
I would love that.
I would love to have some kindof retreat where people are just
coming and feeling their bodychange, just feeling it shift
for the better.
When you can feel that shift inyour body and you know that
everything's okay and you've gota wonderful team.
I feel so honored to be with DrCarrie and her team.
They're just phenomenal.
She's very particular about whoshe has working with her, so
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she has only exceptional, fromher receptionist front desk to
everybody.
They're just you, just handheldthrough her whole office and
you're cared for like a person,you're not a number.
They know your name.
In fact, one of the girls thatworks for Dr Carrie brought her
daughter into see me years ago.
So we're all always connected.
It's always about connectionand having the right tools and
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having some tools.
So again I want to lovinglyencourage everybody who's
listening and again thank youfor your emails and your
questions last time that I hadDr Carrie on and be happy to
have her on as many times as youguys want.
We're here to give you support,ideas, suggestions.
Pause, little bit of pause, dogpause, pa USC pause for your
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health, for your wellness, fornot only for you, but for your
family, for your loved ones, foryour kids, for your uncles, for
your neighbors, for people whoare struggling.
We all have people in our lifethat we love.
We all know people that arestruggling with some kind of
health issue.
Get some kind of advice,opinion.
You can call Dr Carrie's officefrom out of state.
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I take out of state clients aswell too, because everything
that I do is virtual.
We're happy to have aconversation with you about what
we can do to help you.
So if you guys have questions,of course you can find Dr Carrie
and her team at the.
Optimal Health and Wellness arelocated in Skokie, illinois.
You can find me atthetummymusperercom.
I'm located here in Fox Lake,illinois, on the border of
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Wisconsin out far, but do I loveit out here?
Dr. Cari (48:03):
And I want to invite everybody to come in.
Janine's going to plan alogistical.
She's going to plan a logisticof an amazing retreat sometime
soon.
Bye.
Janine (48:10):
Think about it.
People and on that note, I'mlistening to this entire
conversation and what's soamazing is that people have a
team of, let's say, doctors Likehow many older people do you
know of that say, oh, I have ateam of doctors, I have an
endocrinologist, I have aproctologist, I have a.
(48:31):
Why can't you have a team ofwellness?
And then you don't necessarilyneed not to downplay that, but
we need to start living and notstart backtracking, like you
were saying.
It's so much easier thanwaiting to die or waiting to
right.
Why do you need a team ofdoctors that are constantly
trying to fix you?
(48:52):
Why don't you just get a teamthat's gonna keep you healthy as
long as they can?
I think that's like the new wayof living.
Renee (48:59):
Well, and more people want a holistic approach.
I'm sure Dr Carey hears this.
All the time my clients come tome like, how do I get off my
omeprazole?
I'm like, yeah, love to get youoff of that because it's
causing more issues.
People don't want to be onmedications.
They would rather not, but theyare because they feel like it's
gonna put their body in balanceand maybe it is a little.
It bridges the gap for keepingyou alive for the moment, right,
(49:23):
so that your blood pressure isregulated and you're not having
acid pouring up into your throatfrom an ileosphingter valve or
a gluten or an emotion orwhatever it is.
And that's okay to bridge thegap.
But those I'm gonna say itmedications are not long-term
unless it's something big.
That's out of our wheelhouse,right.
All that nutritionalmedications which are your blood
(49:45):
pressure medications and yourproton pump inhibitors and all
that stuff, that's allnutritional medication.
That's the body out of balancenutritionally and emotionally
and everything that we talkedabout earlier.
Not just nutritionally, but ifyour blood pressure is up,
you're blocked with adetoxification pathway, you're
eating a high histamine food,you have some old childhood
trauma, all of the above right,it's everything.
(50:06):
Get off your meds, guys, unlessthey're here to keep you alive,
and depending on what that is.
But again, nutritionalmedication is the stuff that you
need for your blood pressure.
Dr. Cari (50:17):
You cannot get off meds unless you start to change
your way.
That's it.
This is what this is about.
People will try because theyreally want to, but they didn't
change anything about whatthey're doing in their life.
And then they fail and thatcreates a trauma.
So now they're scared to everget off of it because the two
times they tried was sotraumatic to get off the
antidepressant, the anti-anxiety, the whatever.
(50:38):
And I'm like I have a few thatcome in.
They're like yeah, I'm havinganxiety, can't sleep.
I'm like, dude, it sounds to melike you have a progesterone
issue, not an anxiety issue.
And to get their hormones.
Right now they're able to getoff and they're like oh, life's
great and well.
It's like, yeah, because wewant to go through a pause.
We didn't cover up the symptomof like why you're having
anxiety in the first place andwhen, again, there's been all
(51:01):
this trauma.
If we're not handling thetrauma, you can't get off those
antidepressants.
You're running 190 miles perhour into a brick wall.
That thing is slowing you downa little bit until we can handle
some of the cavity, becausethat's the problem.
Renee (51:16):
And then people get really scared about getting off
of it Well, because theirdoctors also tell them like
proton pump and hemorrhageshould really be taken less than
two weeks.
That's the standard.
But many doctors say, oh,you're fine, but they don't look
at how it actually shuts offyour digestion and causes a work
of it, makes the symptoms worse.
Makes the symptoms worse.
So again, but people do need tofeel better, so we honor that.
(51:36):
But at the end of the day, guys, if you want to get off your
meds and you're not feeling goodand you need some help, we are
here to help you, give you someideas and help you in health not
in sickness, right In sicknessand in health.
That's what we tell doctors.
Janine (51:50):
Nice one.
That was good, Renee yeah.
Renee (51:54):
Thank you everybody for joining us today.
I want to wish everybody awonderful, healthy weekend.
We're going to have Dr KaryanIn fact, I want to have Dr Naomi
on, yeah yeah, she said shewould love to come on and I want
to again invite everybody totake charge of your health.
Reach out to us with anyquestions and we will see
everybody in a couple of weeks.
Janine can take it from here.
(52:14):
Download, share, like I alwaysneed.
That's your part.
Janine (52:17):
Yes, please go to Apple Podcasts, spotify, google,
anywhere you listen to podcastand download, share the podcast
and leave a five star rating,which goes a long way in the
podcast ecosystem.
Renee (52:31):
Yeah, Thanks everybody.
Thank you again, Dr Kary, formaking the time out of your very
busy day.
We appreciate it and we loveyou.
Thank you.
Dr. Cari (52:41):
I appreciate it.
Thanks so much, ok, yeah.
Welcome everybody to the Tummy Whisperer podcast.
I am your host, renee Barish.
I'm very excited to piggybackon our last episode because
we're losing Dr Carrie with herstream, but we've got her
hopefully full time here todayfor our episode.
She's hardwired in Thanks toher wonderful husband, and I'm
so excited because I got so manyinquiries on our last episode
(00:35):
about how to roll out some newhealth in 2024.
People are curious about theirsymptoms.
They're curious about what theycan do to better themselves.
I'm sure there's a lot ofpeople that feel fine, but
there's more people that don'tfeel fine that can use some help
and some answers as far as howto better themselves, and
there's so many wonderful toolsand opportunities out there for
(00:57):
great practitioners to partnerwith you for your health.
So, as everybody knows, I dogut health and I help people
feel better in their tummy andtheir digestive system and
detoxification pathways and allthe things that slow down your
health.
So what does slowing down yourhealth look like?
Looks like symptoms, right, andmy mentor, dr Loomis, always
(01:19):
spells symptoms with dollarsigns at the front and the back,
because with your symptomsyou've got to pay money right to
your health care practitioners,to your doctors.
And how do we, how do we slowdown our symptoms and how do we
get into a place of balance andfeeling good?
So we're going to justpiggyback on Dr Carey's how she
started with, talking about theemotions and the chemistry and
(01:40):
how it all relates to how it alltranslates into how our body
expresses what it expresses,whether it's a gas, a bloating,
an emotion, a rash, a jointissue name it right Anything.
The body has such an innatewisdom and the body wants to do.
The body wants to be in balance.
(02:00):
We just have to give it thetools, we just have to give it
the right things, whether it'san essential oil to help change
your brain chemistry, or aflower essence, or a gluten-free
something that you're removingsome hard chemistry that your
body responds to.
So this isn't about taking awayreasons that your body responds
to things, but it's abouthelping your body stay in
(02:21):
balance through this toxic worldthat we live in, with unclean
water, bad air quality, shittyfood.
I won't go down the vaccineroute, but anyway there's a lot
of things that really mess usall up.
So in this episode we're goingto go forward and we're going to
just give you guys lots ofanswers and there's going to be
something for everybody.
(02:41):
So with that I'm going to turnit over to Dr Kerry Jacobson,
who is my dear friend, trustedcolleague, and I'll just also
let you guys know I was in heroffice last week for the first
time in a few years to get myown Q and R T from Dr Naomi and
it was just wonderful and I'lljust give you the quick version
(03:02):
of what I left with.
So she muscle tests, right,energy tests, to see what's
going on and where the blocksare.
And sure enough, one of thethings that came up was people
piss me off.
What a surprise.
So she's has me doing this,blowing out my mouth, testing,
raise my shoulder, spin threetimes, say the sentence and
before I'm doing it you havethis, you can feel it in your
body, like people piss me off.
(03:23):
And when I say it it's like,yeah, people piss me off, for
whatever reason, and that's justnormal.
So we go through the session, Iget done.
She has me repeat the thingsthat were that she found and the
first time I was saying it Icouldn't even get it out of my
mouth because I felt it in mybody and I was like, yeah, I
can't even.
I couldn't even finish thesentence got done with the
treatment.
Everything was flowing out andmy body just felt at peace.
(03:45):
So I walked out of the officefeeling like all my cells were
like back online.
And when I think about thesethings that maybe bother me,
it's like I almost can't getupset at like people's
shortcomings, like it's notreally about me and it is about
me, but their shit is not aboutme.
(04:06):
So how do you feel?
Okay with other people'smisgivings?
You just rewire your brain.
And that's one of the beautifulthings about Q&RT and I got to
experience it last week and I'mgoing next week and I'm bringing
my husband in for some marriagecounseling, also known as Q&RT.
So it was a wonderfulexperience.
And with that, dr Carey, justtake it away, just dive in and
(04:29):
just please tell everybody howyou help people and what you do
and yeah.
Dr. Cari (04:33):
So I opened the Optimal Holistic Health Center
in June of 2010 and I've been inpractice for about 17-ish years
as a doctor of chiropractic,and I generally say I'm a
chiropractic kinesiologist andholistic doctor because I'm
certified in practice probablyabout 20 different modalities
(04:53):
and it just allows me to accessthe body structurally,
biochemically, emotionally,energetically, and that when a
different aspect of the body orbeing is out of balance, the
rest of it falls.
So, as an applied kinesiologist, we look at the triad of health
and if one aspect of the triadis out of balance emotions,
structure, whatever the wholetriangle falls apart, kind of
(05:17):
thing.
So that's the holistic approach.
It allows me to get more to theroot cause and, generally
speaking, I say I don't treatthe symptom, I treat the body.
When the body's in balance,we're able to thrive.
So the symptom is just thesmoke signal that says yo,
there's a problem somewhere inthere.
And what I want to say is thatmore people and I don't know if
I've said this before with youguys, but more people spend more
(05:39):
money in the last few days oftheir life to try to stay alive
than they do their entire lifeto just be healthy, live more
vibrantly, and that's the truth.
People, generally they I hadpeople over at my place and
Renee and I have she's, I thinkyou beat me on supplements,
which I think, so I have aliteral apothecary in my, just
(06:00):
because we do so between myhusband and I and even my dog
like we have so many supplementsand they just accumulate and
it's insane.
But I always say, build up yourarsenal, have tools and
strategies and somebody or manypeople to support you to be in
that state of health,preventative health and wellness
.
So we just had Darrell had alike a training that happened.
(06:26):
He does something called poetrypals and it's about bringing
the youth of Jewish, christianand Muslim, Muslim youth
together to celebratedifferences and so they had a
training here and we have outthis monster cabinet with all
the supplements and all thethings and a couple of people
are like, oh my god, you guystake all of those things and
(06:46):
these are not all of them allthe time, but we have what we
take and then if we need things,it's here and it keeps us
healthy and well.
And it was such a new concept,literally it could not be barely
grasped.
Wait what?
Because this idea of actuallypreventing and helping build up
the body and build up thefoundation and prevent you from
(07:09):
getting sick, or that, ifeveryone around you is sneezing,
you might sneeze for a day, butloom your system just able to
what's it give yourself.
You start building your systemup and then, after a day or so,
you up your water, you up yoursupplements, you have a good
night's sleep and it's done.
It doesn't have to be a 10 daycold or a three week cold, like
a lot of people are experiencingnow.
It can be a couple of days andthen you're back up and down.
Renee (07:29):
Yeah and on top of that, if I may, dr Kerry, excuse me
for interrupting, but in termsof supplements, it is so
important to have an arsenal andI'll say I know Dr Kerry gets
this in her clinic I get it aswell.
So when people come to us withthe graveyard of supplements
that they're not sure what totake, they're not sure what's
working.
Empower your clients to helpthem understand how they can
muscle test themselves, have aprofessional muscle test you, or
(07:53):
help but know that you have anarsenal of your elderberry or
whatever you need, yourdigestive enzymes, your
probiotics, whatever it is, sothat you know what to take.
And help empower your clientsso that they can feel
comfortable.
They don't have to rely on you.
That's a huge part of how DrKerry and I both wanna help our
clients.
It's just about empowerment.
I love kicking people out of thenest.
Just go, be free, fly, have fun.
(08:13):
I'm here if you need me.
And it's so funny that youtalked about celebrating
differences.
Real quickly, mark's birthdaywas yesterday and I went to a
really cool shop in Crystal Lakeand I had a tarot card reading
and one of the cards wascelebrate differences and Dr
Kerry just said it today and I'mlike, holy moly, no surprises
here.
Anyway, carry on yeah.
Dr. Cari (08:31):
I was gonna say like the right thing at the wrong
time is the wrong thing, and alot of people come into my
office with a grocery bag fullof stuff from like Costco,
walgreens and the way that it'smanufactured.
They're not all created equallyCorrect.
The way that it's manufacturedfish oil especially.
It's super rancid more oftenthan not by the time it gets
(08:54):
into your mouth, so you do needto know where it's sourced.
I have a whole store at theOptimal specifically, so I can
ensure that people are gettinggood quality supplements there's
.
I don't know if you have a fullscript account.
Renee (09:05):
Yeah, yeah, I do.
Dr. Cari (09:07):
I have full script.
You have full script so peoplecan probably find it in our bio
links and they can shop there.
So if you need a vitamin D orlike things that you think are
simple and easy vitamin B,vitamin D, a vitamin C get a
good quality one, becausevitamin C is sourced from corn
nine times out of 10 and corn issuper toxic.
It's one of the highest sprayedgrains out there.
Yeah, absolutely disgusting.
(09:28):
Yeah, and it was hybridizedbefore it was.
I could go on.
I hope it's not on corn, butanyway it was hybridized before
it was genetically modified.
So even when it says non-GMO,it's still super chaotic from a
biological point of view and itcan super mess you up.
So gluten free doesn't mean goeat a bunch of corn, which a lot
of things are made of corn whenthey're gluten free.
(09:50):
So you have to be mindful andunderstand and be educated to
really get where things aresourced and not.
And again, if you don't, you'retalking to Renee or you're
talking to someone like me orone of the doctors in our office
, because or listen to our freehealth classes.
It doesn't have to cost moneyto educate.
There's so much greatinformation.
There's a lot of shitinformation out there too,
though.
(10:10):
People.
Renee (10:10):
There is too.
And then even in terms ofsupplement even Dr Carey's
mentioning take a good B vitamin.
They do testing in their officefor methylation and just real
quickly go down that rabbit holeso you can take the wrong B
vitamin.
Because if you don't what'scalled down, regulate or clear
certain B vitamins, you it'salmost like you guys remember
that I always explainmethylation like this do you
always remember the toy, theslinky that?
(10:32):
So methylation is the samething as a slinky.
When the slinky gets caught onone of the stairs and it doesn't
go forward, that's your livernot clearing what it needs to
clear.
So, dr Carey's office, they canmuscle test for methylation.
They can do energy testing formethylation.
They can do actual testing formethylation to see if you need a
little more B6, at a littleless B12 or a type of B12.
(10:54):
That is super, super importantwith supplements.
I definitely say don't takesupplements willy nilly, don't
guess, test and talk to aprofessional in terms of your
supplementation.
So off my soapbox.
Dr. Cari (11:05):
I love.
Janine (11:08):
Too, and I think to interject.
That's such a great pointbecause so many people have this
.
It's funny, like you weresaying, start to carry.
You're like people just payattention towards the end of
their life but they make Excusesas to why they're not taking
supplements.
Because they're probably takingnumber one, the wrong ones and
(11:29):
they're not seeing a changebecause they're not getting the
dosage that they need.
They're not getting the correctsupplementation that they need
and people just don't know whatthey don't know.
Dr. Cari (11:37):
So unless they're seeing A specialist in that
field that can help them withthat, they're going to have a
salty taste in their mouth aboutTaking something because they
just don't know they don't know,and then they'll blame genetics
and I'm like no, genetics isthe blueprint, and Dr Bruce
Lipton wrote the biology belief,and the way he describes it is
that If everything that wasgenetic Expressed, it would be
(12:02):
like this oh, look at that pieceof land.
I have a blueprint of abuilding that I want to build.
Let me throw the blueprint onthe land and I'm going to drive
back tomorrow and the buildingwill be built.
But that's actually how itworks.
It's perfect.
So much time to write.
You've got to get the metalsand the woods and the nails and
the people and the building andthe, and it's months and years,
(12:24):
and months and years and to likeactually get that to happen.
So a lot has to take placebefore that genetic imprint
actually shows.
So a lot of people make a lotof excuses.
It mostly comes, unfortunatelyand I don't mean this from
judgment, but from ignorance,because they don't know what
they don't know, just like yousaid, and yeah, it's fascinating
(12:44):
.
There was something else Iwanted to say, but oh, I love
what you said about the wholeslinky thing and then I wanted
to divert a second.
So the methylation piece isreally interesting and pretty
much it goes to our geneticimprint as I was talking about
genetics there that we havespecific what's called genetic
(13:06):
snips that either express ordon't express, or are available
to us or just don't really workin us.
So some people, as you weresaying, methylate or break
things down very efficiently,and other people, a lot of
people, have thrown up the mthfr like that's a snip.
So that's one that people tendto know about, and if that you
don't have mth fr, you don'tmethylate well, you can't
(13:28):
detoxify well.
Those are the people that tendto be extra sensitive to toxins
like A shot or a medicine or orsomething like that, because
they can't get rid of the toxiccomponents Efficiently and
effectively.
So then the question is how dowe get to the root cause on a
biochemical level?
And that's this jade on'smethylation work that we do.
(13:50):
It's super interesting.
It's a little bit slow andsteady.
When's the race on that one?
In terms of that, there areways that I can cut in to find
primary toxin and help themHandle the toxin while we're
getting their genetics toactually work for them.
But, just like you said for a bvitamin, some people over
methylate and so if you take amethylated b vitamin, it
(14:11):
actually can create more toxinyou might need, like the adeno
hydroxy b vitamin, so it's adifferent form that allows your
body to utilize it.
And that's where I also amsaying like it's not all created
equally.
You need to really understandthe biochemical components of
how your specific body breaksthings down or doesn't, and then
we find very specificallywhat's going to actually make
(14:34):
your body run more efficientlyso that you're less likely to
get sick all the time, havedigestive issues all the time,
like whatever it may be.
Renee (14:43):
Yeah, and it's and very well put and it's so true.
And just to piggyback on whatwe were saying earlier, I always
tell my clients pay now foryour health or pay later.
You're paying out for yourorganic and your practitioner
and be healthy and enjoy yourlife, or pay later, when you're
in a tailspin and maybe youcan't even get out of it.
Dr. Cari (15:00):
So Spend money now that much longer to get out of
it.
So it's like if you're drivinga car and your check engine
light goes on and you're like,oh, that's really annoying to
look at that light, so you'relike, fucking, I'm gonna ignore
it.
But you keep driving.
It's really annoying.
So you're like you know what?
I'm pulling over to the side ofthe road, I'm just gonna cut
the wire to that light.
Good idea?
(15:21):
Not right, because we do that alot, though, with our own body.
So we cut the wire to the lightand we keep driving our car and
what's gonna eventually happen?
It will break down.
Your engine will break down onthe side of the road it
now not only do you have to callfor a tow truck, freakin, get a
brand new engine or whatever,because the whole thing just
(15:42):
fried, because you ignore this,the thing that just all it
needed was some oil, right, andso on and so forth, so like it
could have been a five to tenminute thing and they just
greased it up and Reconnectedwhatever they need to reconnect,
and then light goes off, boom,boom, everything's great.
Or it could be thousands ofdollars, many days or weeks or
months, and then it still mightnot run that great because it
(16:06):
just super fried.
Yeah, we do that to our bodyand we're like you know what I'm
gonna ignore.
It's normal for me to getheadaches every day, so that's
cool, so I'm just used to it, somaybe it'll go away.
Five most dangerous words andthen.
And then it's just like thesymptoms are ignored.
So then the body startsscreaming louder.
So now I'm bloaty, whatever,I'm always bloaty after I eat,
so I'll just eat a little bitdifferently.
(16:27):
Gee, I'm still bloaty, but nowI'm really hurting and I'm super
constipated.
That's okay, I'll just ignorethat.
And so then it just keeps.
Your body will just start toscream and scream.
Now You're not pooping.
So now the toxins areoverloading into your body.
Now you start to now yourjoints hurt because your whole
system is inflamed.
Your whole system's inflamedand now you have arthritis.
People live with arthritis foryears, decades, and never have
(16:51):
any pain.
Arthritis doesn't necessarilyhave to equate to pain, right,
it just does when every all thesystems are go and they're
basically trying to tell you todo something about it.
And if we don't know that everytime we eat we're fueling the
fire because we're eatingrefined sugar and gluten and
corn and Dairy, then we don'trealize that literally were the
(17:16):
problem and we, right, it's itand and and so many people don't
even realize with joint painthat it mostly unless there's
any kind of Direct trauma thatcomes from the gut usually most
of the time.
Renee (17:31):
And two, in terms of dr Kira, is mentioning your
genetics and your genes and howthese things turn on.
These genetics, these geneticsnips, turn on in our body from
our diet, our environment, ouremotions.
This is how the body turns onall these things that now create
, maybe, a detoxificationpathway impairment.
When I had my q and r t with drNaomi and I'm super excited for
(17:54):
my appointment next week I feltlike my, like she helped me
detoxify my emotions, notturning them off, but helping my
body down, regulate this, thesepathways, this, this shit,
right.
So it's the same thingbiochemically in the body if
you've got these all of a suddenimpairments where your body
can't get rid of waste.
Look at your diet, look at yourenvironment, look at your
(18:15):
emotions.
It's all part of it, right?
Dr. Cari (18:18):
and I have to say number one what you do is so
important, renai, because thatfoundational piece of really
getting digestive health andgetting the diet right Is the
foundation of health, becausethe fuel we put in affects how
we function and if we eat crap,we feel like crap and if we want
to eat well for our body, weget to function amazingly.
(18:42):
And it makes my work so mucheasier because I educate on that
.
But it takes a while to findthe rhythm of that and have
someone hold me accountable andgive you so I've got recipes and
I've got this, but like where Ican thrive is really going
deeper beyond that.
That's foundational, yeah, andpeople miss that because, listen
, the digestion, that gut health, is that gut brain connection.
(19:04):
So many people are brain foggy,they can't sleep well at night,
they are Consipated or havediarrhea or get bloating and
gassy, like I said.
Then you get a backup of toxinsthat just adds to a whole
stream of symptoms anddiscomfort.
So that piece of gut health islike legit, so important.
(19:25):
So I just want to drive thathome because your work is so
very important and like reallycreating that foundation.
Renee (19:32):
Yeah, thank you.
It's a piece, the part of thetriad right.
You can't have one without theother.
Dr. Cari (19:35):
You got to have it all it's true, it's true, but it is
really foundational.
And the other piece is that Iwanted to just share that q and
r t because we talked about itlast time but the people that
haven't listened to that partone yet quantum neuro reset
therapy.
Quantum neuro reset therapy,and essentially what it does is
it allows the brain Guide theprocess.
(19:57):
The brain works very linearlyand it allows us to access the
lobe of the brain because, likerena, you're a loving, yummy
person.
You want to love people.
So the fact that you have beenrunning, though, with a program
of people piss me off, it's notyour nature.
It's a reactive survivalpattern, not really like you're.
The true essence of you is notthat, like you, like walk around
(20:19):
and you're like people piss meoff and not really you're not an
angry person.
And yet when we find ourselvescharged up and in that state of
I want to literally killeveryone, everyone's thoughts,
like fuck everyone andeverything, there's a.
It's like what's?
I always say.
Like when I get really chargedand I'm like Where's this really
coming from?
I need to put my arm up on that.
I need to get muscle tested.
I need to find out what's theroot of why I'm in this reactive
(20:41):
place, because this is notbalanced, this is not love, and
and who I am from that truespace we all are, I really
believe Comes from this place oflight and love.
But when we're not there, what'sreally going on?
It could be a genetic imprintthat you came in with, so it's
literally all you've ever known.
You're like, nope, that's me.
It just is, I'm an asshole andI blah, blah, blah and that's
(21:02):
how I run and it's like when isthat really coming from?
So when you can access thatcortices of the brain, the
cortex of the brain, the cranialnerves associated, the emotions
associated according to thehypothalamus, and the different
reflex points, and reset it allat the same time, it is
literally magic.
And I had some of my men forvery first time ever.
(21:26):
I never had she been treatedand she came because she was
excited about q&r t and I waslike let's rock it.
We said for decades I've beenin so much pain I can barely
walk, but I love living inactive life and she actually
lives that foundational piece.
She coaches people on nutrition.
Renee (21:42):
Nice and.
Dr. Cari (21:44):
But she was in a ton of pain, like her feet killed,
and I was like let's just see ifthere's a brain component.
I'm dealing with the feet andthe hands that just keep you up.
You literally wake her up atnight.
They're so painful.
I said let's just see.
I'm curious.
And sure enough there was, onboth pain and inflammation and
red light, green light.
So we usually have to enter andWhatever we cleared, I don't
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know it went super deep, thoughFoundational.
The first several Q and R T'sare always going to be
foundational, the lower portionsof the brain, and what I mean
by that is the cerebellum, themidbrain, the brainstem or
cerebral medulla, and becausethe brain needs to access that
first before you go into theupper portion.
So anyway, we finished andshe's literally the pain has
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decreased and we did all thesemuscle tests and they were
strong where they were weakbefore and she's, I'm like,
literally feeling more space inmy body, my body's not hurting
as much and as she moved throughthe week, less and less, no
disruption in her sleep.
This is just one session.
This is the magic of Q and R T.
It is literally the mostprofound work I've ever done it
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is it is.
Renee (22:50):
That is such a beautiful story and, if I may piggyback on
that, yeah, I've been havingissues with my lungs for about a
year and a half.
It's quite scary.
I feel like I can finally getair into my lungs and I know
there's a huge emotionalcomponent to it and that is
absolutely just beyondprofoundly scary when I'm having
to put a pulse ox on my fingerto see if I'm dying Right and
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now.
And there's a hormonal piece.
There's an emotional mechanism.
But one of the things Dr Naomishared with me when she tested
me she said you're highfunctioning but you're exhausted
and I'm like that resonatesright Because I'm just on go.
But she rejiggered the part ofmy brain that needed it, she
said.
She explained how some peoplestart with a different part, but
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I had that intact.
So she went to the next placeand it was very foundational.
Like I said, I just feel likelife is completely different
from just that one session.
And Dr Currier is mentioningthere's an air traffic control
center in the brain called thehypothalamus, which is, in my
world, responsible for yourcravings and what you want to
eat and all that kind of stuff.
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So I always tell my clients yourcravings and your hunger
doesn't come from your stomach,it's your brain saying, hey
tongue, go get that chocolateand you're like, yes, I'm on it.
So when you can have reallygood brain functioning, firing
and having it work the way it'ssupposed to work, that's what's,
in my professional opinion, myhonest personal opinion that's
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how your body starts to thrive.
It really comes from the harddrive from the brain, and the
brain is that's what sends thesignals to everything else in
your body.
So when you can rewire thatbrain and help lift off some of
that wiring or change it so thatthe brain is firing properly,
everything can go back intoplace.
In fact, I was just talkingwith a dear colleague this
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morning that Dr Kerry and I know, and I think she's going to be
bringing her daughter over to DrNaomi for a foot issue for some
Q and RT, and I'm excited tosee how she does with that.
Dr. Cari (24:46):
So yeah, it does literally change the wiring and
it releases it.
It releases it, it allows spacefor you to actually function,
because when there's trauma ofany kind of just any symptom
doesn't necessarily mean there'sa brain component.
So Dr John Turner, who createdthis, created it from major
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accidents that he was involvedin.
He had the best physical workever.
He was not getting well.
He could barely functionthrough a day or even a half a
day, and he ended up downloadingthis work and creating it
through studies and so on andhis whole thing was like if it
was physical it would have fixed.
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But my brain is holding on tothe trauma and it will do that
to help us survive and cope.
So when we can release thetraumas, when we can release the
patterns that are held there tohelp us survive, thinking that
it's doing a great thing for ourbody and our life.
But really it's actuallykeeping us in a trauma cycle and
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it's keeping us in the symptom.
When it can clear and release,your body's actually able to
heal and amazing things happen.
So just because you have asymptom, it doesn't mean there's
a brain component.
So we always check to see Now.
It doesn't mean that as weclear other things.
It won't release the actualthing that's happening in that
part of the body.
But, like I said, I lookdirectly at the foot and the
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hands to see is there a braincomponent?
And there was with thatparticular patient.
But there have been times whereI go over this hip thing or the
SI joint or the sciatica andit's like there's not a brain
component, which tells me thatit's probably more physical.
There could be some emotionalstuff, but we've got to get the
physical right first.
So the body will always guidewhat it needs.
And it is really fascinating,but it is.
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It's an incredible release, youknow.
Renee (26:32):
It is, and on the emotional component too, I've
done a lot of work on myself.
A lot of people do a lot ofwork and they don't want to
revisit the trauma.
And this work doesn't have yourevisited, it just fucking
removes it.
It's done, yeah.
Dr. Cari (26:45):
The one thing is like balls to the wall the biggest
go-getter that there ever wasand she constantly struggles in
her finances and she affirms andshe coaches people and she's
legit, she is baller, shecreates, she's a mega creator,
but for whatever reason, she'salways blocked to move next
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level on a financial space.
We weren't working on finances,we were just seeing where her
brain guided.
Sure enough, it was a geneticcomponent.
It went back a few generationson one of her family sides and
it was really wrapped into thispart of her that did not feel
worthy of experiencingprosperity.
It wasn't abundant.
She was good with abundanceprosperity.
Renee (27:28):
Interesting.
Dr. Cari (27:29):
It went really deep and I was like honey, you could
affirmation all you want, youare never going to get there
because the way too deep.
It was a deep seated programthat had to be reprogrammed for
her to realign to really who sheis, and I am going to be very
curious to see what she's ableto create.
This just happened like acouple of days ago.
(27:50):
Yeah, to see what she's able tonow create because she's a
go-getter.
She doesn't sit on her ass likethe world should just bring me
prosperity.
She works her ass off.
She's out there inspiring andigniting and creating people to
be more ambitious and yet she'slike running into walls.
What is that?
That's?
Renee (28:10):
so nice.
Dr. Cari (28:11):
It wasn't a match.
She was like what's reallygoing on?
It was beyond her.
But it was in grains.
I'm a failure.
I'm a legit failure, and that'swhat was running as the
survival.
Renee (28:21):
And it's so interesting that you bring that up too,
because there's nobody in thisworld that doesn't have some
kind of stress.
So it's emotional, financial,whatever it is.
And really changing that brainchemistry is such a beautiful
thing to be able to help themreceive release.
And the testing that you guysdo is not only saying, hey, it
might not be the brain.
If there is a hip issue, ifthere is a spine and neck issue,
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maybe it is a structuralcomponent.
It does address the structurefor sure, but always check back
with the brain because more thanlikely, with doing this work
that you do, is it safe to saythat a lot of stuff goes back to
the brain?
What do you think?
Dr. Cari (28:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah , yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah,
and actually you were talkingabout muscle testing.
Dr Naomi is teaching a muscletesting class in person.
Unfortunately, you can't takeit online because it's so
tangible.
Yeah, but it's like her thirdclass that she's teaching, back
by popular demand.
People are going crazy becausethey want to learn how they too
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can access and really be able totest what works for them or not
.
And then, once she finishesthis, we're going to set an
advanced class so people cantake it.
Yet another step further, but Ibelieve it's February 11th.
It's on the be optimalcom.
It's on our classes page, as wehave a whole calendar of events
.
Yes, so, yeah, so people canfind it there and register.
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I think there's a handful ofspots left, but it literally
sells out every time.
So, if you want it, yeah, Iknow it's not that expensive.
I think it's 35 bucks or some40 bucks.
Yeah, and it's like a Sundayafternoon, your Sunday morning,
I think.
Renee (29:50):
Oh fun.
I think that's a great way forpeople who aren't sure, because
so many doubters like I don'tthink I'm doing it right and
it's your net.
There's no wrong way to do it.
You get your answer how you getyour answer.
Dr. Cari (29:59):
So but you just got to feel it, because the skeptics
are like, yeah, that looksfucking weird, there's no way,
and it's, yeah, it does.
Renee (30:07):
But come feel it, you'll see, and if you're doing it if
you're doing it organically andfor the betterment of the person
.
And I actually go back to thestory.
My husband was at some kind ofseminar and somebody was up on
stage telling some multi-levelmarketing product and he the guy
brought somebody else up onstage and did muscle testing and
it was just a shit show it was.
He was getting all the wronganswers because he was trying to
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sell him something and it wasembarrassing.
So when you come at it from areal, genuine place, like Dr
Carrie and her team does, oftrying to help and get the
answers with no practitioneragenda, no bias, none of that
Just the conduit of what doesthis person need?
Not only do you get clear,organic answers right, you're
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able to help guide that personand help direct them and help
empower them for their betterhealth.
It's just so important there's.
You can't just rely on yourpractitioners, you have to be
self-sufficient.
We are here to light the wayfor people.
We're here to give you ideasand hope and help and share
laughs and tears and all thestuff that we do as
practitioners right.
But we want to guide the wayfor you so that you can make it
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down your path and we're alwayshere for you guys.
I mean, dr Carrie loves doingwhat she does.
It's clear she wouldn't be inpractice 17 years.
I'm coming up on my 20th year.
I still love what I do.
It is just such a joy whenpeople say I have been feeling
so poorly and just this onedietary change, I'm sleeping and
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I'm.
I don't have to worry aboutwhere the bathroom is and I've
got my life back.
Dr. Cari (31:38):
I think Renee almost bring it back home to from the
beginning of like, how are wemoving into 2024 to be healthier
?
And I think one of the thingsthat I've chosen to do for me is
how can I show up to lovemyself more today?
And if I love myself and youcan look at it from the triad if
I'm showing up to love myselftoday, what do I choose to do
(32:00):
for myself, my body structurallytoday?
Does it feel good to move itand exercise?
What kind of exercise?
You know what?
I'm feeling a little tired, Ithink.
Just a brisk walk and gettingfresh air in nature, that feels
good.
Or I feel like I need to sweatmy ass off.
I'm going bald to the wall.
I'm going Peloton I'm going to.
Or it feels really good to sitin the infrared sauna.
(32:20):
I need to sweat out the toxins.
I just feel disgusting afterthe weekend of partying or
whatever it's like.
How do I show up to love myselfstructurally, how?
How do I choose to show up tolove myself biochemically, like
what do I choose to eat?
And I've been meaning to getthat air purifier or that water
purification system, like I'mgoing to bite the bullet today.
That feels very important.
I'm going to put good qualitywater in my body.
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It makes up 70 to 90% of mybody and brain.
Why would I not put in goodquality water that's loving for
me?
I'm going to choose to do that,so it's like showing up for
yourself.
And then how do I choose toshow it for myself, lovingly?
On an emotional level, do I feelextra stress?
Should I color in a coloringbook?
Should I do a guided meditation?
Should I pick up someJodhisthvensa, or do I want to,
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whatever it may be?
Or do I want to schedule anappointment with someone like
myself who can practiceneuromotional technique or Q and
R, t or any of these otheremotional techniques that can
support things that just aren'tmaking sense?
You just know you're stressedand things are not great.
Right, how can, again, movinginto 2024, how can I show up to
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love myself just a little bitmore?
Renee (33:29):
And for me, yeah, and if you can't, if you're like, no, I
don't need to do anything,that's a big red flag.
That's where you start callingbe optimal health and wellness
and let them get you bitchslappy into something, because
if nothing changes and you canhave fear around trying to move
into health, the financial piecethat I got to do the work I
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don't know what to eat, oh myGod, just too much.
No, fuck it.
Like I'm not going to do it.
Dr. Cari (33:53):
You could get busy living for death, or you can get
busy living for life.
No, and it's like I brought upto someone, hey, and I was being
reserved.
I was actually beingconservative because I knew what
they really needed was once aweek and I thought, just commit
to coming in once a month.
And the answer was, oh my God,once a month is so much, that's.
And I'm like, wow, if that'stoo much, I was reserved.
I think you should come once aweek.
(34:15):
You're a disaster.
But okay, if that's too muchshit, we're probably in a big
trouble here because, right,you're very busy Living for
death, very right, living fordeath.
Renee (34:29):
and the old saying right If you don't make time for your
health, we'll make time for you.
All the, all the sayings thatDr I have.
I mean it's great and we're notand we're not here to throw
metaphors at you guys Like thisis just about getting quiet for
one minute.
If you get, if everybody gotquiet for one minute of the day,
in the morning or after lunchor whenever you have one minute
and just think what do I, whatcan I do for myself?
(34:52):
Maybe I'm going to take oneminute of meditation, because
all I can do in a day Great, doone minute.
Maybe I'm going to spray aflower essence that takes what?
Two seconds?
I mean something Right.
And if you're stuck and youdon't want to do something again
, red flag reach out for help.
Let somebody partner with youand your health, let somebody
guide you, let somebody shinethe light for you so that you
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can move into optimal health.
Dr. Cari (35:14):
Yeah, and if I may just share a little bit about my
center, please, yeah, we havethree, including myself, three
chiropractic kinesiologists.
I've got a Chinese medicinedoctor who actually certified in
something called synergetica.
He's the only one, I think, inthe States or in the Midwest
that that does synergetica.
Renee (35:34):
Which is can you?
Janine (35:35):
what is that?
Dr. Cari (35:36):
I can only explain it, semi, because I don't do it,
but it uses he's sort of likemirror things and it I've never
felt it totally shifts the wayyour energy moves and rebalances
the meridians in your body.
He is gifted.
You can try out like a minisession with him and that alone
like does it?
Dr J R is super brilliant.
He has a PhD in Chinesemedicine.
(35:58):
He got in China, he lived inChina, he speaks like five
languages.
The guy's brilliant.
He's really quite amazing, j R.
He does Chinese medicine.
We have Dr Jason Penchick, who'sa nurse practitioner.
He does peptides, including,like the latest semi-glutide
stuff right, really helpingpeople to stay their life.
There have been a handful ofpatients it's it's night and day
difference where it was justnon-negotiable and they needed
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help.
Now Semi-glutides the answerfor that, in my opinion.
And then IV nutrition.
He does a bioidentical hormones.
We do ozone nasal, auricular,anal, vaginal, as well as IV
ozone which can kill bacteriaand fungus and moles and just
all those things.
It's incredible and at leastthat's what we find.
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Okay, I think clinically it'spretty powerful.
And then we have a foot detoxlady who helps to detoxify all
the crud, the dead cells out ofyour body.
This is right, this is ourcrazy Italian lady.
She's amazing.
And then we have a bunch ofdifferent light therapies and
one of the things we have amassage therapist and so on, but
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one of the things that therewas a guy that had a near death
experience and when he came backyou basically said humans are
depleted of light energy andwhat really allows us to thrive
and regenerate is light.
And this was way like decadesago, before the whole light
therapy, red light therapy,whatever was like a fad.
Right now it's a fad, but it'sa solid fad, because the truth
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is humans are depleted of light.
We don't get enough.
We're inside more, there's allkinds of weird weather things
that we just don't get as muchsun Right, and we need light to
generate instead of regenerate.
So he came up with what wasinitially called dream spots,
now called the origin light.
It has red, blue, amber andinfrared light that comes in.
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It comes over your head like ahelmet, it comes through your
face, like your eyes, basically,and it feeds the mitochondria
of your cells.
We also have something calledTherafi, which I think I
mentioned before, which alsofeeds life, giving light, giving
energy in a very powerful way,creating a cold plasma field.
It's very quantum nerdy but Ilove it.
It's the quantum physics piece.
Renee (38:12):
It's.
Yeah, so you said thatgentleman was the guy that made
the dream spot.
I know the dream spots.
Dr. Cari (38:17):
Yeah, it looks like a little dome and so, and then
another company, yeah, so Ican't remember the guy's name.
It's like on the tip of mytongue.
So I came into invent it, but hehad a near death experience and
that is how it came to be.
So I first learned about it Ithought it was the biggest hunk
of bunk.
I was like this is whack.
I was so skeptical because tome I'm putting my Carrie J stamp
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of approval Like I need to knowthat it's solid, and I just
thought it was the weirdest.
Two years later I saw this guythat was using it every day and
I was in mid sentence.
I was like David, you lookyounger and he's like oh, I am.
I'm like what he's like?
We use dreams for every day andI'm telling you, this guy is
environmental sensitive.
You've never died as hair, ever.
(38:59):
He would die.
His hair went from gray to darkagain.
Renee (39:05):
Yeah, I'm painting on the stuff on my grays because I
don't want to talk about it.
Dr. Cari (39:12):
I'm telling you, he, yeah, he, I don't have gray, but
he his ring, he didn't have thesame amount of wrinkles.
I was like what?
Renee (39:19):
is happening.
I mean that's, yeah, that's.
And do you now?
Do you offer that in youroffice?
Dr. Cari (39:23):
Yeah, so then his partner was like oh, carrie, I
thought my eyes were gettingworse and I went to get them
checked.
It turns out they corrected sothat she was almost 20, 20, and
she had the worst vision for thelongest time.
But doing this every day, herbody stopped degenerating and
started regenerating.
And where it showed up for herFirst like really like where she
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really noticed, was hereyesight.
And after that conversation Iwas like all right, I'm in, I'll
buy one.
Yeah, that's the winter bluesand people that have seasonal
defective disorder and reallystruggle in the wintertime.
Renee (39:57):
Huge, when you get light therapy, it totally 180s it, not
only is it regenerative, ithelps with opening up cell
cellular health and probablydetoxification, like for me, my
I said I know is from my liver,like my floaters are from my
liver.
So again it's detoxification,emotions everything that I'm
working on.
But I love what you saidearlier about the ozone therapy
(40:17):
I have.
I know Dr Heria sees a ton ofpatients.
I see a lot of clients with alot of vaginal issues,
undiagnosed bladder pain andUTIs that are not UTIs or not
infections but doctors going tothrow the antibiotics at it.
Anyway, but for me, helpingpeople with a lower histamine
diet and helping them that wayto remove some of that stress.
But when the vaginal biome andall the microbiomes are out of
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balance and remember, guys, yourvaginal biome for us women is
an extension of your microbiomeright, everything goes down.
So if you got crotch issues,look at the gut.
But if you need extra help andyou need something like specific
there, the ozone therapy soundslike it could be a wonderful
tool, but vaginosis is verydifficult to get rid of.
Dr. Cari (41:00):
For women it tends to be Like I think, if you do it a
couple times a week, three timeswould be ideal, but a couple
times a week, like I want to sayI think Dr Jason said like at
least six to eight times, it canliterally handle it.
Renee (41:16):
Like for me, I full transparency, I struggle with
issues down under and I've got,I feel I see like I have an
autoimmune crotch and my stufflike goes there right Physical
abuse, sexual abuse.
Of course something's going toland there, and I would
definitely be interested intrying some different chemical
makeup for myself down there aswell too.
Dr. Cari (41:37):
So you can actually insert Megaspore into the
vaginal canal, which is asporobiotic.
Yeah, I have one of the thingsthat Dr Tom Bain, who created
microbiome labs in Megaspore.
He basically said don't usecoconut oil, it actually creates
leaky gut and a lot of thesolacellates, right, yeah, he
said in order to create a leakygut in the dogs, in dogs in
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order to, like, see if theycould fix it, they just fed him
a lot of coconut oil andeverybody thinks it's like the
best thing ever.
He told me people use it.
I don't use it.
Yeah, he just use olive oil.
Or you can use water.
Yeah, just whatever.
When you're inserting, Iactually use beef towel, yeah,
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so there it is, but you canthrow in.
Janine (42:20):
I have a suggestion for both of you, ladies.
So I am willing to likeliterally go in the cold just to
utilize your services.
I think what's stopping both ofyou from doing a retreat where
it's just like a wellness,because they have yoga retreats,
they have like women's retreat,but can we just do a week long
(42:41):
like people just flying fromeverywhere and they get
digestive health?
They get a little of this, alittle of that.
And they are reborn again.
Yes, that sounds good.
Dr. Cari (42:52):
Yes, I'm into it.
Are you guys familiar withEdgar Casey?
Renee (42:56):
Of course I am yes, of course.
So do you know, Edgar Casey.
Dr. Cari (42:59):
I've heard the name Okay.
So he was way ahead of his timeand actually he channeled.
I thought he was crazy orwhatever, but he channeled in
information.
People would call him.
He would basically channel inand say you go to the store, to
the back of the store, and onthis second shelf, just to the
left of a red bottle, you'llfind this medicine and that's
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going to cure you.
And like it did, it was nothing.
No one could cure this personand it was just stuff like that.
I could go on and on.
It's so cool.
I've just read a lot.
I've read a lot of Edgar Caseyand he ended up creating like a
health center, basically on thesea, like I want to say, in the
Carolinas maybe I think so, yeah, and it was just like a very
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beautiful setting.
And he would just channel in andhe would say you need three
chiropractic adjustments a weekand you need to get acupuncture
and you need to only eat this,and then people would just stay
there until they got healthy andthey would be like rolling,
crawling, not be able to walk,not be able to talk, not be able
to whatever, and in a few weeksthey would be able to like walk
, run, jump and their health wasback.
(44:01):
But he had a whole team ofdoctors and people so that
whatever they were needing, theywould be able to get all that
healing and health there.
So they would sleep there andthe whole thing.
And really it was this wholeretreat for them to just find
wellness and health.
And again this was like waylike hundreds of years ago.
Renee (44:21):
Yeah, and there are places like that it's a vision
of mine.
Dr. Cari (44:25):
I've always been like I need to do that.
And did I know Edgar Casey orWeBuddies?
Maybe did I?
Probably.
It feels so familiar to me.
But when you say that, janine,I'm like, yeah, I want to do
that, I would love to do that.
People just need to pay, yeah.
And a lot of people are like,why is this?
No, I have to be able to likesupport.
What I would do if I'm in myoffice and it creates people are
(44:45):
like I just it needs to cost 80bucks and it's.
I'm literally giving $10,000worth of stuff.
It's got to be worth at least athousand or whatever.
So I'm super down with doingsomething, but it is a lot to
carry.
Like I have a homeopathicpharmacy, I have all my store.
I have like the laser lightsand the GRT lights and my blocks
(45:06):
and all the flower essences,like three different kinds in
the whole entire thing.
So I want to be able to givepeople what they need and what
they desire.
But I would rock a retreat anyday, anywhere, warm and
delicious, like the Caribbean.
Yes, I would rock a retreat atthe optimal too, and do it like
for a full weekend or week andjust have it be where people
(45:27):
could come and like super goodto just pay to get all the
things that whatever they need.
Yeah, you can charge all thethree to five K or whatever.
Like you can pick up boxes orwhatever they need.
Renee (45:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's like different shared packages or
whatever.
Janine (45:42):
I would fly to Illinois to do this.
Dr. Cari (45:45):
Yeah, renee, you had to get your ass into be optimal?
Renee (45:48):
I will, I definitely.
I would love it.
Bring little talks on nutritioncan take that load off the
optimal.
They do all that there too, butthat's they don't need to do
that part, they can do theirstuff, I'd much rather have
someone who's super.
Dr. Cari (45:58):
That's your passion and you can walk people through
and hold their hands, becausethat's not what I love to do.
I can tell them.
But then they're like oh my God, but I'm freaking out, I need
recipes and I need it.
I'm like go see Renee, but thatwould be so much fun.
Renee (46:13):
I would love that.
I would love to have some kindof retreat where people are just
coming and feeling their bodychange, just feeling it shift
for the better.
When you can feel that shift inyour body and you know that
everything's okay and you've gota wonderful team.
I feel so honored to be with DrCarrie and her team.
They're just phenomenal.
She's very particular about whoshe has working with her, so
(46:34):
she has only exceptional, fromher receptionist front desk to
everybody.
They're just you, just handheldthrough her whole office and
you're cared for like a person,you're not a number.
They know your name.
In fact, one of the girls thatworks for Dr Carrie brought her
daughter into see me years ago.
So we're all always connected.
It's always about connectionand having the right tools and
(46:56):
having some tools.
So again I want to lovinglyencourage everybody who's
listening and again thank youfor your emails and your
questions last time that I hadDr Carrie on and be happy to
have her on as many times as youguys want.
We're here to give you support,ideas, suggestions.
Pause, little bit of pause, dogpause, pa USC pause for your
(47:18):
health, for your wellness, fornot only for you, but for your
family, for your loved ones, foryour kids, for your uncles, for
your neighbors, for people whoare struggling.
We all have people in our lifethat we love.
We all know people that arestruggling with some kind of
health issue.
Get some kind of advice,opinion.
You can call Dr Carrie's officefrom out of state.
(47:38):
I take out of state clients aswell too, because everything
that I do is virtual.
We're happy to have aconversation with you about what
we can do to help you.
So if you guys have questions,of course you can find Dr Carrie
and her team at the.
Optimal Health and Wellness arelocated in Skokie, illinois.
You can find me atthetummymusperercom.
I'm located here in Fox Lake,illinois, on the border of
(47:58):
Wisconsin out far, but do I loveit out here?
Dr. Cari (48:03):
And I want to invite everybody to come in.
Janine's going to plan alogistical.
She's going to plan a logisticof an amazing retreat sometime
soon.
Bye.
Janine (48:10):
Think about it.
People and on that note, I'mlistening to this entire
conversation and what's soamazing is that people have a
team of, let's say, doctors Likehow many older people do you
know of that say, oh, I have ateam of doctors, I have an
endocrinologist, I have aproctologist, I have a.
(48:31):
Why can't you have a team ofwellness?
And then you don't necessarilyneed not to downplay that, but
we need to start living and notstart backtracking, like you
were saying.
It's so much easier thanwaiting to die or waiting to
right.
Why do you need a team ofdoctors that are constantly
trying to fix you?
(48:52):
Why don't you just get a teamthat's gonna keep you healthy as
long as they can?
I think that's like the new wayof living.
Renee (48:59):
Well, and more people want a holistic approach.
I'm sure Dr Carey hears this.
All the time my clients come tome like, how do I get off my
omeprazole?
I'm like, yeah, love to get youoff of that because it's
causing more issues.
People don't want to be onmedications.
They would rather not, but theyare because they feel like it's
gonna put their body in balanceand maybe it is a little.
It bridges the gap for keepingyou alive for the moment, right,
(49:23):
so that your blood pressure isregulated and you're not having
acid pouring up into your throatfrom an ileosphingter valve or
a gluten or an emotion orwhatever it is.
And that's okay to bridge thegap.
But those I'm gonna say itmedications are not long-term
unless it's something big.
That's out of our wheelhouse,right.
All that nutritionalmedications which are your blood
(49:45):
pressure medications and yourproton pump inhibitors and all
that stuff, that's allnutritional medication.
That's the body out of balancenutritionally and emotionally
and everything that we talkedabout earlier.
Not just nutritionally, but ifyour blood pressure is up,
you're blocked with adetoxification pathway, you're
eating a high histamine food,you have some old childhood
trauma, all of the above right,it's everything.
(50:06):
Get off your meds, guys, unlessthey're here to keep you alive,
and depending on what that is.
But again, nutritionalmedication is the stuff that you
need for your blood pressure.
Dr. Cari (50:17):
You cannot get off meds unless you start to change
your way.
That's it.
This is what this is about.
People will try because theyreally want to, but they didn't
change anything about whatthey're doing in their life.
And then they fail and thatcreates a trauma.
So now they're scared to everget off of it because the two
times they tried was sotraumatic to get off the
antidepressant, the anti-anxiety, the whatever.
(50:38):
And I'm like I have a few thatcome in.
They're like yeah, I'm havinganxiety, can't sleep.
I'm like, dude, it sounds to melike you have a progesterone
issue, not an anxiety issue.
And to get their hormones.
Right now they're able to getoff and they're like oh, life's
great and well.
It's like, yeah, because wewant to go through a pause.
We didn't cover up the symptomof like why you're having
anxiety in the first place andwhen, again, there's been all
(51:01):
this trauma.
If we're not handling thetrauma, you can't get off those
antidepressants.
You're running 190 miles perhour into a brick wall.
That thing is slowing you downa little bit until we can handle
some of the cavity, becausethat's the problem.
Renee (51:16):
And then people get really scared about getting off
of it Well, because theirdoctors also tell them like
proton pump and hemorrhageshould really be taken less than
two weeks.
That's the standard.
But many doctors say, oh,you're fine, but they don't look
at how it actually shuts offyour digestion and causes a work
of it, makes the symptoms worse.
Makes the symptoms worse.
So again, but people do need tofeel better, so we honor that.
(51:36):
But at the end of the day, guys, if you want to get off your
meds and you're not feeling goodand you need some help, we are
here to help you, give you someideas and help you in health not
in sickness, right In sicknessand in health.
That's what we tell doctors.
Janine (51:50):
Nice one.
That was good, Renee yeah.
Renee (51:54):
Thank you everybody for joining us today.
I want to wish everybody awonderful, healthy weekend.
We're going to have Dr KaryanIn fact, I want to have Dr Naomi
on, yeah yeah, she said shewould love to come on and I want
to again invite everybody totake charge of your health.
Reach out to us with anyquestions and we will see
everybody in a couple of weeks.
Janine can take it from here.
(52:14):
Download, share, like I alwaysneed.
That's your part.
Janine (52:17):
Yes, please go to Apple Podcasts, spotify, google,
anywhere you listen to podcastand download, share the podcast
and leave a five star rating,which goes a long way in the
podcast ecosystem.
Renee (52:31):
Yeah, Thanks everybody.
Thank you again, Dr Kary, formaking the time out of your very
busy day.
We appreciate it and we loveyou.
Thank you.
Dr. Cari (52:41):
I appreciate it.
Thanks so much, ok, yeah.
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