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Speaker 2 (00:06):
here we go and we're
live.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Thank you, janine,
for always getting us live.
Welcome, everybody.
Welcome to the tummy whispererpodcast.
I'm your host, renee barish,your happy tummy whisperer, and
today I'm excited to bring yousome information about a big
buzzword that people have beentalking about for years they got
microbiome.
Everybody's heard of it, janine, you've heard of it.
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Right, we're going to talkabout it.
We're going to talk about whatit is, how to get it balanced,
to at least get it working, whatcan be happening in the body as
a result of the microbiomethat's out of balance, and also
be talking about the differentkind of microbiomes and the
different parts of the body.
So, without any further ado, ifyou don't have any questions,
janine, I'm going to dive in.
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Do it All right?
So the gut microbiome peopleare again they are aware of.
So, as I mentioned a minute ago, there's different parts of the
body that have differentmicrobiomes.
So your mouth has a microbiome,your gut has a microbiome, your
gut has a microbiome, yourvaginal canal for the females
have a microbiome, and there aremicrobiomes on your skin.
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All the different parts of thebody have their own good guys
that they need to help protect,fight off unwelcome visitors and
keep our body healthy andstrong.
The problem is, today we arebombarded and you guys have
heard me talk about this adnauseum at this point with all
the kind of toxicities of theworld, so poisonous food, gluten
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and things that are overlysprayed, a lot of airborne
chemicals I can talk chemtrails,but I won't go there the
chemicals in the water, thechemicals just everywhere that
completely bombard our body andour bodies have to start to
process, if it can, and movethose out.
And our good guys, our fighters, are responsible for helping
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our bodies do that.
So what happens when we don'thave good guys on board?
It's not just a matter oftaking hey, I'm going to take a
20 billion probiotic.
You hear people saying I took a30 billion probiotic and it
didn't do anything.
Or you hear I felt worse.
That's because certain strainsof probiotic can overgrow in the
small intestine and that'ssomething that you don't want.
You want to have a blend, youwant to have diversity, you want
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to have enough of the rightkinds, you want to have a
rotating, enough of the rightkind here I'll turn my phone off
here and you also want to makesure that you have that balance,
that rotating balance, becauseit's not just the right balance
all the time, it's a rotationthat makes sense.
So I was mentioning about how weneed different kinds of diverse
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strains, not only in the gutbut in our vaginal canal, on our
skin, everywhere, that ourbodies need this protection.
So what happens when we startto have a toxic overload?
We know from digestion, from adigestive standpoint, if we're
not breaking down the properincoming load, that's going to
cause the microbiome to not beable to work properly, because
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if it's busy trying to fightthese incoming modes of food and
pesticides and Roundup and allthis other toxic stuff, then how
can our fighters actually workwell?
So what does that do?
That impairs digestion.
The first part of impaireddigestion also mutes and
basically slaps ourdetoxification pathways.
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So when we don't have gooddetoxification, we start to now
get hormonal destabilization andonce you've got that, you're in
this like kind of perfect stormand the body goes into a
feedback loop.
And here come the symptoms.
Right, I've talked about itbefore digestive symptoms from
gas, floating constipation,diarrhea, just burping.
I have a new client.
I just started working with hischief complaint.
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He doesn't feel bad, but hischief complaint is that he has a
horrible odor that comes out ofhis mouth Probably his mouth.
Microbiome is off fromdownstream.
What's happening in the gutright, so the body can present
all kinds of symptoms when thatbalance is off, greatly affects
the liver right.
And if the liver can't movethat stuff out, we just don't
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have the way to convert a lot ofour nutrients, absorb a lot of
our nutrients.
And the list goes on.
Let's look at the types of diets.
Right, there's so many outthere.
We got paleo, we got carnivore,we got vegan, we got all these
things right.
And there's no one size fitsall.
If somebody starts eating avegan diet and they feel so much
better, that's great and thatactually works for them.
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And if they feel betterlong-term, boom, they've nailed
it.
And if they feel good, but ifthey don't feel as good two,
three, four, five months into it, you then have to start looking
at other foods that have thesechemistries that help build the
microbiome.
So let's take vegetables, forexample.
You know there's fiber, there'spolyphenols and certain
bacteria actually needs thosethings to be able to thrive the
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good bacterias.
You start going carnivore andyou don't have those things.
Where are you going to get thatfrom?
And there's a lot of differentstudies on carnivore versus
paleo, versus blah, blah, blah.
Again, no one size fits all.
You have to try what's rightfor you and I like starting with
a little bit of a mix of things.
Don't just start one diet offthe bat.
Where you start to throw offyour whole chemistry, start to
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make changes slowly.
Where you start to throw offyour whole chemistry, start to
make changes slowly, and ofcourse I'm here to help
everybody do that as well.
Back to vegetables and food andbacteria and pathogens and all
that stuff.
It's really important that yourincoming food, your secretory
IgA, sees what's coming in andcan actually invite it in for
processing.
If it can't say gluten and allof a sudden it's like whoa,
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right, there we have an issueand the body can go into a tiny
little bit of a chemistryrefractory response where
nothing can work right.
All of a sudden there's justthis alarm happening.
When the alarm's happening,you're not getting good
digestion, you're not gettinggood absorption, you're not
getting good detoxificationright.
Making sense, you're notgetting good detoxification
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right, making sense a lot ofproblems stemming from so much
antibiotic usage.
I get case after case aftercase in hand for over 20 years
of unresolved urinary tractinfection, because it's not an
infection, but the doctor says,hey, you've got some pain,
here's your antibiotic.
What that do that furtherdisrupts your microbiome, your
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vaginal biome, your mouth biome,your skin biome and there's all
these very specific biomesequencing bugs that need to be
available in the body to have ahealthy body.
So for me, I was raised on a lotof ear infections, tons of
antibiotics, white bread likeall the bad food, which wasn't
even that bad back then but alot of ear infections, a lot of
you know urinary tractinfections as a kid.
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So much antibiotic usage.
And they didn't know aboutprobiotics back then, on 58.
They didn't.
Nobody talked about a probioticback in the sixties.
It wasn't even a thing, notuntil the late seventies or even
the early 80s.
So right there I have so manypeople and I know everybody
listening is like yep, that's me.
Doctor, can't figure it out.
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Lots of antibiotics.
Obviously you need them forcertain things, and it's not the
wrong thing.
It's just the overuse of themthat cause our bodies to become
then resistant to them.
The best thing that you can dois make your own natural
antibiotics with the right diet,the right digestion, the right
microbiome, and it sounds great.
And it's a lot harder than itsounds.
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But again, it's everything thatI talk about.
Right, we go back to these kindof different types of diets,
whether it's low histamine or alittle more fiber or a little
more Mediterranean like this.
I went through a case thismorning of a client who she's
low histamine.
She's feeling better, doingpretty good.
She's about 80, 85% better, butthere's still this little bit
of like gas that's like alwaysthere.
So we know something's notright.
So we went over test results.
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Turns out she needs to eat alittle bit more polyphenols, a
little bit more like olive oil,a little bit more Mediterranean
diet, because that's what herbody needs.
And this was fascinating.
She came to me because she washaving this overnight, waking up
between 1, 33 o'clock, and ofcourse in my field everyone says
, oh, they go to the Chineseclock.
That's the liver, not always.
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She actually is overgrowing astrain.
I wrote it down because I canpronounce it.
It's called Bacteroidesfragilis.
It's elevated in her test,right, and that is actually the
one that wakes people up in themiddle of the night to go poop,
and sure enough, she's got anovergrowth of this.
So now that we know it's there,we know what to do.
But isn't that fascinating?
Because you do.
You always want to go to theChinese clock and go oh, it must
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be the large intestine, it'sgot to be the liver, oh, it's
got to be the kidney.
And yes, there's a correlation.
However, she's got this overovergrowth and we found it.
So, for her particular case, weneed more of a little bit of a
dietary change for her, andshe'll be thrilled because I
think we'll be able to eat alittle bit more food that she's
been used to.
We have her pretty restrictedand she's been excellent at
doing it and she feels better.
But again, we don't have herreally to her finish line yet.
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So it was a mouthful there, butI think it's just so important
for those of you that are outthere.
Hey, I'm taking my probiotics,I'm feeling better.
Bravo For those of you that arelike I'm taking my probiotics,
I don't know if I'm feelinganything because we don't know
what's going on in your GI tract.
Yet For those of you that havetaken probiotics and I got a
little bloaty from them, I got alittle worse from them.
Obviously your gut is out ofbalance and it's this perfect
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storm of the food, the diet, theovergrowths, our toxic load,
our emotions, which, of course,dr Keri and I have talked about
at Nauseam, but that's probablythe top of the list there.
But that's her department and Ijust think it's really
important to start zeroing in onat this time.
Our world isn't getting lesspolluted, guys.
The world's getting morepolluted and more toxic.
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We have more ways to helpourselves and we've had to come
up with these wonderful infraredsaunas and water filters and
things to clean our food with,because we can't sanitize our
own incoming load Right.
But that's why we make stomachacid.
And how many people do you know, janine, are on Nexium right,
shutting down their stomach acid?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Oh my gosh.
And people love Tums like it'sa handy.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
And not that those
things are the wrong thing and
they're okay to get you frompoint A to point B, but they
shut off your digestion, theycompletely shut it off and you
need stomach acid to digest yourfood, sanitize your food, start
to break it down so that it canbreak those bonds and get it to
your cells via acid anddigestive enzymes.
People looking for the quickfix, the pill, the magic pill
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there is no magic pill, guys.
I'm sorry.
I'm here to take the wind outof your sails.
It's lifestyle.
It's really about caring aboutyourself and, as I always say,
if nothing changes, if you'renoticing something on your skin,
you know it's like a rash, likea little before I knew I was
sensitive to histamines, I wouldget this kind of rash under the
arm and on my forearms and Ithought, oh, I've got a parasite
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infection, I've got something.
Of course everybody has them,right, and I couldn't wrap my
head around what it was.
And finally, when I went lowhistamine, the rashing went away
, right when there's histaminepresent from infections, because
it's there or histamine in thegut or both places, and you
start having a little bit oflike destabilization with your
mast cells.
You're already on this, likeyou're already on the kind of
the teeter-totter, and what youdon't want to do is you don't
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want to be in a place whereyou're only here, right, you got
to find that balance and, yes,for many of my clients, we go up
and down a little bit, but wewant to be able to be always in
a little bit of this, not here,right, and that's all the work.
So what do you think, jenny?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I think it's
fascinating that urinalysis test
that urinalysis test that's theone.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
No, that's the
digestive urinalysis test.
This is actually a specificstool test for the microbiome.
The urine test is the firstpart.
Checks for the digestion,detoxification, absorption, and
this does two in a different way.
So this is like next levelstuff.
So I'd say for maybe only 20 to25% of my clients do they need
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to have the stool test, but foreverybody else it's really diet
and digestion and lifestyle forsure.
But it's really fascinating.
There's even some of theproducts that I'm using from
this particular company canstart to mobilize, even off
gassing from infection.
So take H pylori is aninfection and a lot of people
have it, and there's actuallystrains that are beneficial.
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But what you don't want is anovergrowth of the wrong ones.
So one of the products that Iuse actually doesn't just go in
and annihilate it and kill it,because then you start having
another whole host of issues.
Can that person actually getrid of all that waste?
That's always an issue.
But this stuff that actuallyjust binds to it and out it goes
, it doesn't kill it, it bindsto the toxin from it, the
mycotoxin from it, and then outit goes.
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So pretty fascinating.
So there's definitely more than1,000 to 10,000 ways to skin
the cat Something interestingtoo that I just came across not
too long ago.
But I had a client who alwayshas like mouth issues to go to
the dentist and she'll feel likea film on her teeth that's
coming from her gut and hermouth.
And there's ways to do a rinseand swish with something that's
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not necessarily like anantifungal or an antimicrobial
but could be a little bit oflike IgG support, a little bit
of certain strain of probiotic,with a rinse and swallow to help
downstream, because this is anextension of this and vice versa
, because what goes?
in goes down but what doesn'tprocess down in the tummy comes
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back up or can also godownstream into the vaginal
canal.
When we're looking at vaginalinfections, we're always looking
at mouth, stomach, mouth itself.
Guys, right, everything goes inand down.
So when you're looking atproblems below the waist, always
look at what's going in and howthe body's managing it and can
the body manage it and howbalanced are you within your
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microbiome?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Wow, pretty
fascinating.
Actually, you don't know whatyou don't know, and this always
goes back to call Renee.
If you're listening to this, ifyou're watching this, call
Renee.
She knows what she's talkingabout.
I had years and years ofdiscomfort and it all went away
literally in due time, because Ilistened and I did what you
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said, and I think it's soimportant for people to stop
going to Western medicinedoctors for as a first, as a
first step For nutrition.
Right for nutrition, becausethere's symptoms of something
other than pills.
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And and to just to
bring that forward.
What you're talking about is alot of people don't even know
that they're having anutritional issue.
So look at, like high bloodpressure A lot of times that can
be it's not just lowering thesalt, it's really actually
balancing the minerals andprobably adding a little bit
more salt, but maybe loweringthe histamine load in the body,
digesting the food better,having enough alkaline minerals,
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having enough acid minerals,having enough balance right,
having all that.
So it's not just take a bloodpressure medication yes, you
have to take that to bridge thegap so that you don't have a
longer term issue.
But working on the diet part isa huge piece for blood sugar,
blood pressure, cholesterol, allthe things that people are like
oh, I'm high, but now, oh, look, I've sunk my cholesterol
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number, which is another podcastthat we'll talk about because
cholesterol is good andshouldn't be 150, especially if
men ever want to have anerection again.
So just saying, just saying.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
You never know what
you're going to find on the
tummy whisperer.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I'm telling you
cholesterol.
You need cholesterol.
It's actually there to protectyou, right?
You don't want it clogging yourarteries or anything, but you
need a balance, right?
And if your body's making somecholesterol, it really depends
on where you are from females inyour cycle, whether you're in
menopause or not.
That all plays into everything.
And taking that Lipitor to sinkthat number you got to look at.
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Why is the cholesterol elevated?
To begin with, cholesterol is ahormone made in the liver.
If your liver is overworked andunderpaid which everybody's is
you're going to have morecholesterol, is going to be
sparking even more and more.
So why does that happen?
Start looking at what you'reputting in your mouth.
Start looking at how toxic yourenvironment is.
Do you guys use plugins?
Do you guys Febreze?
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We did an episode about this.
I'm in the car the other dayand I'm trying not to go postal
because there's a commercial forFebreze and the guy's like
there's some music, he's happy.
He's like forget the deep clean, if you need a quick spray, he
goes here, hit my back and youhear she's like oh, I feel great
.
And I'm like oh, my God, areyou kidding me right now?
But they're selling this.
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My husband is in advertisingand he's just oh his head in
shame.
But advertising is powerful.
Febreze cleans your house,right?
What it doesn't clean yourhouse?
It gives you more crap andcancer.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
It sprays chemicals
and carcinogens through your
hair.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, so anyway, I
don't want to go down that
rabbit hole because we did likea whole episode and a half on
that, but again I want to painta picture for everybody that
everything matters, everythingcounts, everything is important.
Little tiny changes now are soeasy.
It's so easy to get the foodthat you need at any grocery
store Trader Joe's, aldi If youneed a gluten-free bread and you
can't afford whole foods, andyou've got an Aldi, great, there
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you can get online, I foundwhen I was eating a lot of
gluten-free before.
We don't eat much grain anymore, mark and I.
But this company called Pachamakes a sourdough gluten-free
bread.
Whole Foods carries it now andit's a nice size loaf and the
slices are really thin, which isgreat.
You can't overdo.
Like two is not even a half ofa slice of a regular bread and
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it's only buckwheat and water.
Sounds fabulous.
Organic, non-gmo.
They've got milks out therethat are glyphosate free.
Right, they don't have theRoundup on them.
They're tested for the partsper million of Roundup.
That's the Kiki milk.
I think I mentioned it.
We use that for our smoothies.
Companies are really trying toget clean stuff for us because
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unfortunately we have to, and somany women with fertility
issues.
In fact, I have a client who'sjust going to be starting with
me, her husband and her havingissues.
He's having issues poor diet.
We're going to see what we cando in terms of getting their
diet checked in, getting themabsorbing better, cleaning up
their microbiome and seeing ifthey can't not only conceive but
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carry to term, because it's notjust the woman's responsibility
.
He doesn't have healthy spermto begin with, right, so we're
going to see what we can do.
It takes work on both ends, sothey're going to that's a great
point Great point.
They're going to take a year toprepare both their bodies and
then start trying after, andthey don't need a year.
I would say six months a monthand a half to clean up the diet,
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another two to three months towork on balancing.
If we need to kill anything off, add another month or two to
that low and slow.
But you definitely don't wantto be in a killing phase where
you're starting trying toproduce.
Yeah.
So anyway, hugh and I alwaysend up going down these rabbit
holes because I can never stickto one thing with digestion,
because it's just, it'severywhere and it's everything,
and it's everything for you guys.
It's so important in terms ofyour long-term health.
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So I'm looking, I made a bunchof notes for today too, and I
want to see if there's anythingelse that I missed here.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
We got Rook in the
background looking at me.
He's so cute I know he'sactually here.
He's actually under the table,Aww.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I did Rook's
microbiome test.
They have an animal biome one.
It's $139.
So hounds have.
Hounds can tend to have alittle bit looser stool, plus he
dietary indiscretion for him.
I'm on a trail hike and he'sgot everything in his mouth from
like dead mice to human poop.
I'm like drop it.
So anyway, he's always a littlebit on the looser side, never
like a good easy pickup.
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Let's do it, and I had a feelinghe needed a little bit of
Saccharomyces boulardii, but heneeded actually.
He's got two products.
He doesn't have any overgrowthof anything bad, but he's
missing some strains.
So this company takes poop fromhealthy dogs, they test the
fecal matter and they clean itand they put it in capsules.
And Rook is eating dog poop ina capsule plus some
Saccharomyces boulardii, and hisgut is doing so much better.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
That is fascinating.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
And he needs a little
bit more fiber.
So I'm using the green juju, Ijust mix it in with his food and
his poops are fantastic.
I pick them up.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I'm like, yeah so
excited Animal bio, who knew?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Well, because poor
dogs.
We're killing our animals withall our toxicity.
When dogs were wolves, theysurvived and they figured it out
because the world was lesstoxic years and years ago.
Now the expectancy for ourwildlife is a lot less, because
they don't have clean water,they don't have clean air and
they're breathing in chemtrails.
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And that's my story and I'msticking to it.
That's pretty sad.
For those of you that haveloose stool, I recommend for
your doggies the animal biometest.
And if you that have loosestool, I recommend for your
doggies the animal biome test.
And if you have human loosestool, call renee all the tummy
whisperer.
Call the tummy whisperer.
Yeah, it's important.
And the other thing, guys, Imake it really easy.
It is not.
This isn't like an overhaulwhere you can't eat anything.
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You have to just startsomewhere.
You're already going to thegrocery store.
You have to buy food anyway.
If you're doing a lot of doordash, there's plenty of options.
And if you're door dashing acouple of nights a week and
you're cooking a couple ofnights a week, I like to make it
really easy, plug and play, sothat you can start to feel
better and not have your healthbe a full-time job.
I have many clients who aretrying to retire.
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They're in retirement and theirfull-time job.
Being sick, feeling horrible.
That's no way to live, as mymentor says, that's no way to
run the way road which I runaway, so with that.
My invitation to everybody is,of course, please start to do
one thing, whether it's a littleresearch, whether it's reach
out to me for a free, 15-minuteconsultation.
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You can reach me atthetummywhisperercom.
Happy to answer any questionsthat you have.
Reach me atthetummywhisperercom, happy to
answer any questions that youhave.
It is my joy and privilege tohelp people, give them the
information that they need sothat they can have a healthy
life, not only for themselves,but for their family, their
loved ones and their dogs.
Get that animal biome test andtheir cats.
I think the animal biome testdoes cats too.
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So, anyway, animal biome Test.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
That's fascinating,
and remember to follow Renee and
the Tummy Whisperer.
You can find her on ApplePodcasts, spotify, iheartradio,
you name it, she's on there.
Make sure you leave her arating and a five-star review,
because she is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Thank you, janine,
thank you everybody.
Until next time, stay well,chew your food, drink your water
in between your meals, and ifyou have any questions about
anything and I mean anything, Idon't care if it's helpful or
not give me a call.
Take care, guys.